EXTRA ANORMAL - 82 | Tengo un legado m4ld1to, mi abuelo fué el NAHUAL más poderoso

Episode Date: May 25, 2023

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to be a little a couple more of a podcast Extra Anormal My name is Pacuarias and I'm very

happy to be here with all this occasion I'm very content because me

a journalist very known in my city, the Mr. Osvaldo Oropesa. How is that?

Paquito, with carino you talk and with respect and admiration. And so, of all of all of

you know, for having me invited to to this program that in really, I know,

I know, to know that you've got to a 100,000 and that's not any that's not

that's not any of the young like you is precisely that are people who are occuping

places and putting it in a heart to this city of Tostepet. Felicides, Paco. Muchismas, very much tonne, I'm a very content to to hear those

his words. Family, before to start, I want to let us on our page, also you can continue,

you can subscribe for that so you do you the project every time that we're you know,

you know, and this moment, also I want to do the radio social here of

the periodist Osvaldo Oropesa, it can you can find in all his social

as the style Oropesa. Also, before to start, I want to send a special

because for there me said that I'm a single that I'm hear of from a

little about just years salutes to the little Alberto, that

also don't get any little we let's start

with this night of this night of this night of the something

to make to start this Mr. Osvaldo is that me he has

much time that me interested to invite that you in

your notes that then your notes that in his publications in the media social, I used always allusion

to the paranormal so when we talked about I said, I'm told some stories that right the people

that have to get to until the time. I have to say that I know can soundar

a little ridiculous for a person like you but I'm to do you because

is part of this sir, sir, you think in the paranormal? Look,

Paco. with all sincerity I'll say I'm a person a person

in the paranormal because as like the jingian how is the black is the

dark how the day is the night the night how is the

good is the and how is the God is the God is the

something I'm that I want to say is that much people

not cre in a polo. I mean, it's just he's two polos. Jinyang, Blanco-Negro, God, and the devil.

The demonio, Lucifer. Mucha people are in frasken that only only exist one and

they say, is that I don't know I don't think or in God, but I think in the diablo,

if I think in the devil, if I'm the God, but no I think that exists

all the real really every thing has your equilibrium, no? What was the experience that

you made, and a part of there he started to believe in this phenomenon? Look, Paco, making remembrances

of my life, I would want to start precisely I think that for herence

familiar. Okay. My abel or vice-a- or tatar- abel of the city

of Tussepet was called in-v- Vida-Gelaceo. He lived with my my abelita, Constanza, of the family Cabrera, Fentanis,

they'd, and they'd have a one quadra of the Pantion Municipal on the Avenida Libertat, where is the Kinder. There lived my abuelita, Constanza, and there lived my abuelito. Segong me commented my, my, a galena, who, who was that me creed in the city of Cordova, Veracruz, I'm originally, of Cordoba, Veracruz,

And my abuelita, in his relato familiales, me said, we're trying something in the blood, we have done

natural. And this is for part of your abel. Your Abel, Costanza,

is descendants of Cubans. She is Cubana. Okay. She's believe in the

Budu. For so you have seen that when we're to visit the Tustepet,

she she had a bankito, a tabure that I'd I was there and I

sent him to her. Of all his nietos or tatars the nietos was the only that I

had to sitar with her and he had a box a box black

put in front his taburete a tronco he was exactly that ballcita and he

extendia and they had caracoles and I was he had a puo

he was to fomar I was I was what was what was doing that was

or resando or invocando and she put in exactly Paco she put in

her to manage and to play the caracoles and she and I was

and I'm and I said your your abuela to this

and your old gelasio was the great to

Tustepet was was the Nahu more more the

Tustep and the the region and those who they

had the don to be in Tustepet and start curing in Otatitlan Halapa

of Diaz or Hittlan and when the people said if they they were there,

how is that you are here. Wow. And one of the things that I want

that he hadrava said my abelita that Tarahuel Gellasio between

his things to make maldades because also he had maldades

with his power's that he he had, cut about ojas of the

trees. He said I'm going to go to take a cup. They said that

was a bar of your Cepet. He sent him and I had the

time to pay with billets but what was the situation

that when he was when he was the canter had his

cajone to his caron of money, and he had a ojas of guanaba,

ojas of macko. It's converted the billets in ojas. It were the oldas

that he had been they said, you know, they said, Zelasio. That's precisely

that I consider that we bring us don. And why I'm going this, Paco,

because it's something to a little of six years that you or that you that the

abelita you, it's because when there are niets or family always they're

to get a person that they want to give the don the don. But,

but I remember that my abel me said and me told about

and said come to come back this baul that you see

a ball of a ball of the opportunity of record or have seen the baules of the antes

grandotts of pesados, so vanisades and all and with a key grandota Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I left a house even exists. Yeah, they've been all the territory, but the

house still of my abelos, of my antepasasas is there still at the house of

the Pico. So, he's one of the one of the house of two pieces and my Tio Jorge

Fentanes. But the The house of my mother still persist, because it was a tentita,

it was the tentita where they were all all over all over there. All right.

It's in abandon the house. Yeah, no we're not. But there

in the part tracera a quarter dark. Nobody had

had prohibited. My abuela Constance or tancha of

the He drove Tomado of the man He broke that that

for sure it was a door not of not of a matter but a door

made with what is palma and amarrated with hos or riatas or pita

how they called very very and not they had been aborted was all

abandoned when she opened when she opened the coffre of mother

was there I'm and he he said he said this is for you I remember

that as a little was having seen between my things as well you know

you think you're you're you're you're a you're a gullet

no when when when he me pressio first primarily

what I could say a tunica a with capucho. A book of Magia

Negr. That then knew that was the of my abel. That's the Brucho

The Brucho D'Epeg? Gelasio. Wow. And there more artifacts as I remember

me called a cross a cross. One cross that was very common like the cruis

where is crucifical Jesus. It was very different to the normales in a form

extrana a daga a one of some oils of barro with pedas of carbon

I don't see if I can say it but what I was I was a

black like pieces of the and a calverer in the

calaver in the calaver had a velator a velator in what is above of the cranium.

Yes. To me impacted and me impressioned and I wanted to let me to get a little to

when I saw yeah the calaver that he began the thing was the carverer with that belator

a black there was where I went to the panic as a kid. Yes.

No I wanted and me he said this is this is this is you know

you don't let you want to your mom to your father to that is a

secret between your boy and And as a kid, then you and you know

you want to tell you know, that's that never did, Paco. And with

the years passed and my abuela and my dream that I had the age of

the age of the 15 years in Kordoba because my my life there

took many many if you tell you let's tell it was

it was was very very variant no Yeah. I, I dreamed that my

abuelita, me said, Piri, because so they were in a new, Piri. Acquirtate that you have a mission

and the coffre yeah not in the quartito. He's is interrado in the

manco where I sent him and you have to disentererer and do use

of the herence of your abel so you, continuing the

legado all what did your abelio that's that's never never

has been I've I'm I'm let me say let me say let me

say that the of my abelists me but the name of constance Tanched

my abelita and my vice abelio or vice abelor was

Gelaci that no I don't know but my abelita that is that

that never never never has never never said the

The Mr. Helacio was the father of... Ah, the husband of my abelita. Of your abelita? Of my vice-a-whalita. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And, do you know, this... How much... Tanch. Tanch. It was an abelita for all. Ah, okay. It was my vis-a-wola. Ah, it was my vis-a-wola.

Ah, okay. Wow, that was it was the legado that you had been left. That's. And I sent and pass. Yeah, with the years, I was told to my son. you know,

you know, I mean, Osvalito, right? Yeah. So, I'm told.

But I think that that's always me has followed. Paco, I think

that's not you do you do you come a herencia I think what I

say is something a thing a herensia maldita. The called

maldition generational? Generational. That no I've made use of those

facultes but I'm that's I'm that all what

I'm telling how, I mean, basically it's basically, it's

when you know, when you know, that he's a little to

that's like a recinto, where is all, they're they're in the

man, to me made to think that was like a

maybe to some that that they that that they're to

like this is this is your is for you. And

to feel the environment how it's a lot of me makes think that

it was like a type of not initiation but it's like a presentation or how

I'm I'm now I've studied much because me really

to study Paco the phenomenon paranormal phenomenon ony I'm

an amate of the investigation of all this type

and so so you Paco always scrutiny investigating

investigating inquietude of why me I do this to me? Or because

I have to be I. And I think that have passed to people that have that have

happened to have been that's, that's, that's, that's, that's a that's a

not to not to say it. And let me say, Paco, that's that's

he's that's because I I'd because I I'd want to my life

was very of a exquisia in the aspect of that my parents me

left in Cordova with my abelos they're they're here to Tustepet

I'm native of Cordova original of Cordova Veracruz my parents

Osvaldo is from here of Tustepet my mother is of Puebla but they're married

in Cordoba but they're to know to provide now new Suertes

Suertes to first to tell the story to Totitlan Veracru

that was where we we're the famous sanctuary, where there's the Christ Negro. That's,

there was the first place where they got to my parents and they were to get them to go to me they're

with them and they're and they're like like like a so you're like that like that

so but I don't know to my parents because they were the good

for us for us the good for us the good that's the car

that the first the first history that we we can't how you see if you

tell you go ahead I'm I'm anxious to hear of this this situation I remember

um before to get to um three five I think it was between the

five and six years all this same step because in Santario we've

a little time my my papa went to a sanctuary because

of her is my abel um native of Otatatlan Veracru

Celerino Herr of if I'm in Rarra Martins. We got us to Stiland and we received some Tos. We got us

like eight days in the first house of my Tios, but my papas always said, like the classic we have to

look a house because we have to implementer that the the morrow to the rimado to the three

days. Yes, yes, yes, yes, famous to be here. And,

and, and my papa, to have your privacy they found the first house to

live in what is in the center of Otatitlan where was close of a tent that

was in front to a side of the church of the church. It was the

tiends that neko that we were like the fourth or fifth house casas

grand of the techo of like teja houses grand

because the Calor here is very very very great sombreated very

humid very humid but when my my papa me brought

to that and my brother that was with my father and the

most that he's recently recently he they I

I was I see that not my brother Louis

the other was he And me said, I'm scared, manito. Me, I'd have a fear in the house. And we were put in a

question to say, Luis and I, and I said, no, you know, I'm going to be going to pass nothing.

I'm going to I'm going to care to you, Arturito. Fidate what I said I never, me,

me, I'd say one thing. You're going to say a thing. It's hypocrite that the man that

says, that he doesn't fear. Yes. Because the fear is the defensive of a man.

Is what you alert when something when something and it's in various situations. It's in

our natural in the natural in the naturalness, in the veils. Yes. The scalo frio

of the frio of the entity of that carg negative. Then never you never you can't

you know that you don't know because it's your auto-defence personal. Is your alert

Alerta Alerta Alerts something Something is something is I'm going to get to that

a house macabra like I said Yeah, it was a very pesada very

very pesada and and do the casual that I I remember that the three of

my tios my tios because they were to get to be to get to get

to to receive to Christ Negr and the adoration so

it's also the day of the death of also that that is

That's the my view of the Asunderer, the day of Murtes. You know you know, it's free, fresh, and so. The famous Frue of Murtos.

Here I've heard of much because here is, as you know, it's a lot in a zone very calient. Of actually,

for the people that were a little in context, without to interrupial to the

Mr. Osvaldo, it's so it's much many times. Even the inviverns

has a Calor. We're going to 40-tant-tenths 6 degrees. So, it's much a lot of

what he does. But it's curious that being 301 of October in the night in the first

days a down the temperature but radical. And the people here you know it's

very sonated the famous frio of mortes. Yes. Well, it's

resulta that he came Paco and we happened when

we were there always between 12 to 3 the morning in the

techo of the house also a part of the part of the part

tracera was the Texas I remember very well the kitchen

was great and before they used fogones not stufas

the casas antivus for to all to all those people

that they see internationally the houses of this are

great the old The houses are of parallels grosses to preserve the

and not there's a lot of with teja and the and the and the

yeah of the tachas but that that house was a lamina and a kitchen

and the fogon and there in that kitchen see they're from

because the houses not not didn't many many

divisions as so the partotot and just a

cordid a A cortina. She heard when something when something when something to get

to the house and I sotabha and he was a person that was a person

that was that was there were in the animal I think more more than

a guacolote and and he and it was sonable the lamina tras

tras tras tras trac caminable all around of the

house and the teja so moved for the for the of that situation. We don't

know we're Paco. It's so that they were on the little bit of the

camera of my mother. My brother was my other manito

and I don't in a asient in pavion the pavion is for

the muskos that is traditional although the the pavilion that

was traditional of all in pavilion. Yes. The first my mom said, Baldo,

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It's internet built for tomorrow. Today, internet delivered through Cox's hybrid fiber coax network. Speeds vary and are not guaranteed. Cox terms and other restrictions apply. I said my papa, it's a brawrable. Amalia, calmate. To be a single animal, a clackwache. I think my father, you know, but to maintain the tranquillity,

calmate, it's a clackwache. No, Valdos, that's not a tlaquatch, said my mother. we're we're we're because that we'd I'm

and I'm abasable and me abasable and I'm my mom agar the little the first

to get that we're to us and he was always and the he gotrava he was

he's the hearturito no no trit Arturito he they're and they're and they're

and they're no no no no no he's because Arturito not is baptized and the

bruchas so those chupin that that was the think of my mother, fagate.

That's never never to forget Paco, that that that's that

after I'm and I'm when my mom was to

and I had to the father and the imaginarily to raise a rosario because

she was she was a woman of that was

that animal was de I tee-a-furted, and he was going to at the hour that my mother, and it was constant. When I got my tios, that were to sleep, too, you know, in the piece, in the cell, or wherever, but with the time of being,

they were there, they heard what the same, said, Valdo, this is not normal. This is not normal. In this house, there is a little bit. That is a gawal. How? That is a gawal.

because it's an animal very great that's a man but is a gawal the alethe is very very strong and the pizada's very strong

is baldo we're going to castar my papa and say how? Tomorrow we're going

to go to the church and we're to say to the father that we

give the water okay they're they're of electricity and all that

we're going to electricity to electrification to electrocutar the laminas we're going to put a pole and other pole

here and we're going to put in the corriente to the lamines ah okay

said my my papa benito benito fentany is called pio fent fentane

are my tis pardon because I just said the name but more more valid

that they have there's there electrified the lamines was

I remember in that day of the water Oh, the water would be

in, you know that's my troyects my mom and my

papa and all the classic of the always waiting when

in that when in that paco he got he got he was the aleteo

so when came the animal in the lamina but cimbro

all the house all the house simbropaco yeah not was

the laminas but the whole the house and it's so it's spanto I don't

say I'm saying a word a lot of one of my tis said yeah

he's ching-o yeah we've got to that animal here here's

in this moment that animal my mom did you my mom and my father and

all over those got some lampars some lampars some

Pilas, no I don't I think his mark grandotas with a fokote and you

yeah the classics they're they're they're going to let's it's

it's moment to trap to that's in Agual abriar the opened the

part of the patio and alombrer they me tell my my mother

and my father that what they were an animal like a no

guajolote was a animal a spectro black but with some

small large like a person Alvers. And in that moment imprended

the whel no he perected the whel and simbred the house at the hour to go

and said my papa paranoics when they were that when they were in that the night

was to say to chupar a guardient and mescal So amanecered I don't

know if it was pretext or what whatever but they put here to do you

to chupar to chupar to chupar to talk anecdotes and all this what is the case

Paco when the when the people started to say what he was

what was that they were or someone or someone so someone

he was a car because it was a question that we

didn't they're to tell, but there to tell it. What is the situation

that in those cases always they're going in front to take the mecederas and all.

My mom, my papa, and all us were a messed and you know, you know,

that's classic. The classics. The classics. And that are used to get

to all to all to all to all right. Sitatito in the butaca or in

the meceder. In that then it was I remember I'm

I'm Paco that's a man vestido of black with a

sombrero that then they called they're on bombin

so so so so could be or call

ridiculous because in a place that so so so

so that not accustomed a person to be

so to be to pass with his baston. But at the hour of passing vestido and

encaminer's to make to the church, because that also also we saw that the church.

No we know because. The mirada was fulminant to my papa.

It was fulminant was a mind of a maldition was a mind of me you

was a back. Of vengeance. The vengeance. My papa and all they all

all of all the and then there came the most the first when they when they started

to ask to my parents to who were that who nobody didn't say

nothing but because no it's a man no it's my

my dad my dad was a person that was a Yes.

Anded, Scroinient, Tupacca. He went to get to his house. Ah, the video. The patio of us dave with his house. Ah, so,

they'd live a nearer. Serquita. You have to you know, you have to seepado, in the zone

earlierment no idea of the linderos just were only were a lambry and the and the plants.

Yes, the plants, the arbusts. The arbusts. Well, my papa had the value

that when he knew that the woman not was he went to get to the

house he went and he met him he went to what was what he found

my papa a a center of adoration of magic

black wow calaver cranius a a place a ritual

a a recint a recint a rite a a Until there was someone

that he said, look, Mr. Osvaldo not I said,

but all we know as well. Nobody in here we said nothing

because that man he's he's from he's but

he got a and he not he doesn't with nobody. Since that day

we demuramos three days Paco that was the

motive for the why my parents left a sanctuary. The sanctuary.

And we came to live to Cepen. Yes, is it about 40 minutes?

40 minutes of here to Ceper. Yeah. That's, that was the, my mom

was the one of Valdo, you're going to do you do a little to the people,

we're going to be here to get to here. And my Papa, now

now say, the man is the man is the man is the man's the man's the It's

It's true. We're we've been from that of Santaio. Wow. For that because it's

dangerous because if it was we, suppose we it was he he was he's almost

that's amazing that could to be able to get the power electric or not not pass

the better life but I think I've been lastimated strongly. Yeah to tell

I'm to say earlier you can you remember that before the medidors

or not with the interrupt They were some bolitas that you'd have walt. Yes. Well,

of that's we'd get without the night because there a short circuit. Yes, and those

things were explotarro. They were that they were on a table of the and it was and he was

and he backable and he had like two things of video that they were so they're so they're

until the other day but convaled the kingke that were what used they used they were

like that before you didn't No, not in the casas of the classics that were

much humor, no but... That was the history, Paco. Wow. That was

that we've been from Nahual in Santario Veracruz. A me really really

the attention of what you told from you from from from from the

why was that you don completely? Look Paco there is the other

story that comes for what what I has passed in my life

but before that's the ball is there interrower I'm

I'm I'm I'm told my my family to my

family, my my friends and and they're they

would you try to to or maybe there

I don't I'm no I know I no I

no no I'm there and then of that book of Magia

Negra said my abuela Tanchach that was made of the human

human that's that's that was sacred because he had all the

secretes of the magic black but was made with a

cover of human was a various insignia that

I don't valid, very very very Paco. And you're going

to be sincere, I don't I'd I know I know where can be

there. Okay, there so. There's there back. Wow.

Yeah they're they're this terrain. I don't see how he to go to

that family that's that I've seen. I've seen that

I've passed because my family there's my mother doesn't in peace

in that pantion when I go to visit her I've passed

and the house says it's so they're not they're not they're

not even the house of my abel or what is there that's there's

something that's going to be saying or not mention but it could be that the

entity the energies and what has has been that can be provoking

that's that are there are and portals and portals so because

that the book I imagine that comes to generation

in generation so, no is something that was a of them, I want to think

that came that's I'm more I'm in because... Tatar-aubelos Exactly So,

what is what has originated that in my life, Paco, that I in Cordova I said

I'm creed only in Cordova with my fathers came here to prove, they were

to try when the normal my mother went to to put here a center where they'd have to eat and food and the student of the normal of Tustepet

when in those years. I made in Cordoba with my abueles. My parents construed them a house to the front of the terrain of my abelos. I'd have 15 years, Paco. Here in Tuxpepeg? In Cordova.

In Cordova. I studied in the secondaries, Vaugh, in that But you know, you know, of a young, always want to have their privacy, and more if you're like that's your

father. I'm, I know I'm like to live there in the house of my father. Well,

yeah, if you know, I'm saying the abuel, but not you recommend, Piri, to be able to

be there. Well, then I'm in the contrary because it was the consentied of my abuelitos.

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It was a night tormented Because in Cordova, at 6th of the afternoon Yeah, it's to put in the nebrina In December Yeah, it's to feel the frio, to obscurecerce. And accustomer the people to dormice Temprano, at the classic 6th of the Tard, you know, you're taking your coffee with pan

Yeah, you're eating, yeah? Yeah, they're senando. At the 7, yeah, you put to see, to be the tel tantit and you go to your

room and you go to and get the and get a and I'm in

and I'm and I'm remember that I'm my camera but the window

down at a a side a and another room

I'm I'm I'm and he started a storm electric

I I remember that in that torment electric for me will be

inal because there started my pesadilla terrorific in my life. So I was

there I've accosted Paco and I think it was a dream and a

reality was there was there and I know to be to be the rays

more more than the radios that all and it and I'm

tap I know I'm tremendous but one of one of those

pac me discurro the car I look to

back the and what I see is a woman

of black parada in the window with the rostro taped but

you have to know that's seen that the Spanulasas used like a

translucid here that they tap to the face like a a velo a

black paco me desmye of the impression no didn't

do you until that I I was in the of my tia Joaquina

and of my old little and they're to give a patada to the door to

my little to have to have to the door to my abel because no

not contested and me they were that's I'm that I'm that I

had passed bad they're not of my problem in the problem of the

person yeah said they were and they did a paro Garciaco

and they got pati they're pati the part

and they entered I mean, I remember because, after me even, I was too,

because me was done to I'm in the onion to for that reactionate. Okay. I put in a

alcohol and all those things, no, and after the water bendit. Paco,

from it was there was the bad for me. Why? Because that entity no me

left in to be able in peace? I, to the 17 years, my my abelos me said, Piri,

you know, you're at the secondary. We're not our own your brothers. You need to migrate to

your parents. A Tuxpeg. To Xtepeg. You have to live with your brothers. And it was that I

came to get to your whole of the heart of my my boys. A me me dole much because

for me were my parents. Sure. She grew with them. With them. With you. Yes,

I I was I was like a bitch rarro in house. See, my

My brothers, yeah major, grandes and all my papas. Atterrero, that me invited me, at the hour of to come, I, I'd pay a permission. I can't pass to the house, well, if it's your house. I'm going to pass to go ahead. It's your

house, no? So, Paco, I committed a grave error. For that I said, that maldiction messio. Acosted in the

quarter, where we'd, don't know the three, a quarter grandee, there in Mancilla, and Emiliano Zapata, that was the the terrenno

of my difunta mother and my fult father in that house. Lamentably

my parents were at a little time that I went to live with my mother

only and my little. She was father and mother, no I just go to my mother because

they're for me benditus not. No, I'm for who has to be

but I took the place of the child to my court of but

passable something. My brothers not were to be going to

get to be going to get to my mom. And they

said my mom what? No, we don't we don't

we want we don't do you with me but they're

not. They said nothing. They said for what? Paco, the situation was that my First, and that movement and the ridges that

heard of the world, they'd have scared and they'd go to my mom to her room, and me left them alone. But you know what was the situation, Paco? That at the 12th of the night, when I got to this house, at the 12 of the night when I'd I'd go to, in the door of my recamara,

appeared, that woman of NECRO. Caminaba And I was And she parable In the paper in the In the pieceer And no she moved He was

He was No, he was No, I'd say I was I'd say It was like my How'd you Because no he

He was a man He was a guard A manger of the guard Negr But it was A black or beautiful because I

felt that not an entity good. But it was a woman. It was a

woman high but with a vestido with his veil always. This

person or this being or this demonio could say, me

he did during many years. Then I did something I should

something I think the loquera of the young always

we're something, and I'll say to the young, don't play with fire,

because they're going to get to get to the people because can be

catastrophic in their life. Exactly. No play in the Uiha.

No play to encirrars, to incererer or to open portals,

because one entity can be manifest or to be or

suffer also, that's that's the or even posseer those. That's

grave-sim, Paco. Sure. Aprovechando your program because it's very visible and very analyzed for many

people, no me to make to make that the young that the young,

today, make many many occurrences or want to do things that don't know of

the grave that they can be playing to the un-

-in- -in- -in- that they have been portals. Hasen games in spejoos that are

portals. A television is a portal in your recamara. The famous spejo is the

most is the most dangerous to have a television front of your house

because it's a portal. A a camera. You're going to

get to get to get a car. In your room

is malo because an entity a spirit always

will to get to sit there. It's like an invitation. It's an invitation

to a a person. So, not you going to you're to have tranquillity.

What I did you, Paco, of that when when it was

to me to find me a book of magic and for the occurrences

of the people for to be sure that the man will be

to make a Occurrences of the chabaco. I did a question that I don't know. No.

I know if you know you the pass of San Bartolo it's a year yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, so far. Well, so I'm going to do you do a ritual with with valladors

occurrences, tonteries. And that that's the legado. Exactly. That chispa that he was

to give like the touch to what He was going to do. He was going to do to the bruce. To see what

he said. But, no it was I, Paco. It was something that was called to do.

It was in contra of my voluntat and I went to that this. Let me

say that that's me said it's very carisim. At a little

time, that woman had more but every day was moving of the

place. Yeah not was at front. That woman had and she put on one and with the time, it was passing,

and, until that it was to me acer to my header. That was the day more grave and terrorific that I've lived and my family. Lamentably, my mom Malia, she no, was a testigo presensial,

but are my brothers, Luis, that's in Ciudda Juarez. Me would have liked to grab what to talk to him or Arturo, that's here in your Sepita, you'll contran their experience that they've lived in the family.

Also, they'd? No, right there's the most... The most, cabron. Can-hijo. That moment, Paco, is I, I was costado. Hegues, and he said his voice

for the first time. Ablo? Ablo. So, so. I'm going for you. The murder? No, I see if it was the

murder, a demonio, the yorona, the murder. for that when I said no, no I don't see

when they said when they say that's that's up the dead that's and you start you

start you and I'm I'm saying I'm saying but I see a Paco when that

that that that's the demonio or the woman was up to the

around that's he level but to be to my time of

the body when when he went his his his

bell to my car Impresionate, Paco, what I'm going to say When he quit The velo It was a little It was something

It was a car terrorific That I can't describe How it was Podrida, It was between No, no, no, it's horrible, horrible

I don't know What I could say of the impactant that in that moment I felt when when he went to my body.

He posed he did the possession of my body and there I could say something

that I did it was when I felt I my spirit and me was floating above

of my camera my my my, I myself me and I

began to desperer so it's see that my my person Paco

I in that moment I I'm I'm I'm went to

my mom and I said mom mom but no

me but my brother Arthur Louis no me

no me and I was and I looked and my mom and me

be yeah there there there there was there I think the

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For me, that was an alibio. My mom said, and he started to cimbled the house. to move the house, to tronar the lamin to move

to do that to do and all I saw I saw I'm when I'm when he

called to when they went to see me they were that that quadro to be

my body elevated over the camera I'm levita levita

I'm I'm much. Griter. My brother, my brother, my brother, my

brother, what's that's they're them? And my mom, the only

that did you get to get that you know, you know, you know, you know,

a palmita of crud, and a prox? Yeah, or that they'd like you

on the door? Exactly. Yeah. You know, you did my mother?

Affronted the situation. She arm of valor and He got to my

camera and I'm to to get a water of a

tank you know that before that's so that I'm

I remember I'm I'm to take in all the whole

and he and to to to to and to

and to do and to do and I always

cargave there a virginita you remember a one

a virginica of Guadalupe and a cross chquititita that I had. Me

it put in but I could get to get to where I'm he went to me and it

said my mom that when I went when she abented that was when

resando was when my my body to the camera. Callot to

call to and it and it was when turned the lamin pass saw you

a grito but a grito but a an ojid, or something, or something, said my mom.

I, in that moment, he went again, I don't know of my Paco. I, when

I was when I was crying, what you did you, Piri, what you did you?

Why did you did this, I, he took to say the truth. And in that moment

Paco, a hour my mom, agarro that book and he kem in the patio.

It was to to be to be to get him and there was and when when he was he was

he was putting. That was the situation that I did a possession and that

never to say I'll forget so I don't even that's that will cause

a reason but I I and my family we've lived. That's something that the people that are watching and that's being

the chapter, no me going to let's make to make, always that we're talking things of

possession, we're always we're the history because I only actually I'm a relatador of

stories, because me get in the stories, and the reality is that always when

the time, we say, the the consejo is, no, No, no

Intentes because much people, overto as you know, in the

affand to want to experimenter some something, adrenaline or something for example,

there was a game one of one of the three reyes that is one of the most

fertes that even being being done that's that thing esoteric

and he is that that is a game is a ritual because occupas

water occups occupas Occupes vellas, to do at the 3.30 of the night. I mean, it's, I don't know,

something that you can put in risk and the recommendation of the order always is, no it does, no do you do you.

Because it can you can't get and not pass anything, that can, that if pass and you

cost it something very car. And all the time, so I've said to the people.

Because there are creators of content that not they're in this and do

They do they do for a game for, no see, for more views, for,

no see, for viralis but they're but they do they do they

get to pantions and open rituals and open portals

with lumb and they have chisos that are

and if you do you have an chiceria the mal

the mal you're to get you or your family Paco It's bad, that.

Exactly. Very grave that can cause until the murder personal. Yes, yes, because you're playing with fire, as well as it, you can't quen. And then that was the

last time, was the experience more strong that the fact of had been posseed, but at part of that all of that, all so,

all so it's calmed. Look, Paco, uh, I, I, I took a treatment

psychological. I remember that me They were to Cordova, and my abuel, he came for me, and he said, Amalia, no you take to Piri. I'm going to be a Piri. I'm going to go to a specialist.

I remember the Iglesia in Cordova, of the Stations, that is in the Barrio of the Stations, there. The church of the Guadalupe, my abuelo was very amy of the sacerdote, and me He was Because they're

prepared for all that's And apart They're They're much In the psychology

Studian all of those things But you You've got to be prepared for the situation of

exorcism but they're prepared for those things to try to Not?

No is one that's like Pontejula or no I'm

I'm I'm I'm the church this of Guadalupe

is a normal but but for the my abuel

me took a special father Okay so so

So I'd I'd all the after the times like a type of therapy

me put in to work after after I'd put to ask

what I had I'm to how to recreate to

to to so you know you know you

I think it was to I said, and in eight days I was telling the same. It was when after the

therapy, came the treatment psychological more than and came the era of,

how is it called, um, of orations, no? And that for me me served

much. It was a comfort, Pac. Okay. I'm really really the

name of the father, but I did me really in my life personal, If I was I tramed,

he quited the Ambr, he was very very delgado so that they said that could have been

to have had, I've had been my levels of the of the so,

for what he not he had a pesidias or all that. I want to say

Paco that I have a thing I've I've got for my problem

of the mal of Parkinson Y in affect Zona Delta A and B, things, so that's detected. I'm

to develop a disease that that, well, I don't doorm. It's an insomio chronico. Yes,

when I said me surprised the quantity of hours that can't. And my people know and my

know, and my know my friends, you know, that at the hour that I'm in the

madrugated I'm I'm I'm Wow. I mean, I mean, till the

five of the morning, five of the morning is when I'm a day. And I'm all the day.

One hour only do you? One hour. Me had done tea of guayabom of many teas

of many, I'm actually and pastillas no, I've made effect. So, so I'm

accustomed I'm used, and I I'm accustomed and I live a life that

that's affect to my family because for my system of this type

no I was and I don't feel and I feel like my

my life is normal and in the nights I'm talking for my

time for my job periodistic me are people or they're they're they're

doing I'm taking photos to see I'm I'm going to take photos to the sky or as I'm

a manate also of the investigation on and checking things because something something that also have

passed there the grito of the yorona that we've heard of my husband and ultimately has some

days my yeah it's that it's normal it's normal it's normal not so it's because

it's because it's all the rio we're we're but even talking with a friend

that the penguin was with us with us from the first capitals and that he was

going to this time, to him to he's he was he was going to be

if it's for his your abuela you know, so it you know, so it's

in a trance. In trance you, you can you get you. It's

very very the jorona. Let me say that I me pass

in the madugadas and because for the situation of my state,

my family let me to say that my spouse is Christian my family is Christian

that is something that is a something that I know but I can't

disprend of what is my investigation periodistic no I'm I'm

a thing and I respect and I'm so I'm amant

of the investigation and be in the programs paranormal I'm see all

to those to make faye montages and me do count

who are Orita, actually to move the Brucho Major of

Catemaco, no? It's, well, supposedly, well, I have understood that

there's one, that's the, that's the actual. Yeah, that's the major.

The mayor. The mayor. But the, the major of age? Ah, okay. Yeah, the major of

the age. And, this, so I'm going interando of many things of that so,

and, there are many friends that they're doing to the investigation paranormal

those I see or those I'm very serious so in investigations paranormal have

they're they're they're scientifically not only only in Mexico but at

not even international and this and not you think Paco that

these soces just is in Mexico is in all the world is in

all the world these these energies, these energies, these energies,

in all. So, here, I, in this type, I've also helped in my

program, I've done to know the group, the group of investigation paranormal TX,

that are, some young, that they were, to be to be a bit of

not the vibras, because they're not those because they're a lot of, but I

know, yeah, because there me left too many many energies that also

that also that also I'm going to talk, Paco. In the study the opportunity They've given brus

But they were portals And in my office In my studio There are some Some things That we've got to And thenpian Because if they're

So it's logical They're in places Where are pantions Or you're entities Or you're met To a place Cargated And you're

Cargous and you Trey's energy Sin-Siber And you can And you can't Oreridid In a house Where there

children or something or something, or something, or something, those mals, they're saying, so is that when I, I recommend much, Paco, no see why. But I recommend much that in a house, in the entry of your

house, always you always put an mirroring to the car, because all that person that gets to visitart, repeal the energy that you bring us. The rebota. The rebota.

Okay. That is, is, is something that's still I need to investigate

because a space in a house is a portal but

but but out of your house is a repelente

of energies okay if you you get because you get people

you don't know you know you know they're but

the person that get to your car and see that

in automatic that energy is disvanes it's an

energy a potential you have. Or, it's either in that space and it's like

a portal or something like that I see, it's like it's like a man. So I recommend much

to put a space. Ah, that I want to be. Out of the house. No,

I know. That's repel. Yes. And the person gets disarmada for if

yeah, yeah, with some yeah, with the intentions, or without, or,

without, I'm trying to get in the car, that's repel, or that

or that entity, at reflect it tends to go to get to get to we're going to

we're going thanks to your program that's many people, there are many experiences

that's in these cases paranormal I've seen some programs that

in really me have been got impressed of the

experiences and today I'm I'm I've been impacted

so really are really are tremendous I said, I go, from the moment

that he was a nephew of the Bruchtepec of here. It's tremendous because wow,

it's the herence, the fact of all the thing, the thing, all what comes,

so, for part of the line sanguina that has that's all the energy, all the

power. It's impressive and all what it conge-o because the fact of the fact of

the let me say the word is the correcta but the heredero, let's say, the power,

what he took to live. Fikertie that there, there's a lot of the dones, there's something that in the family, always me say, no you're going to be to dreamer with me, Piri. Ah, yeah I imagine.

Why? I've got that situation, Paco, of that when I'm a person, he comes to be to me. It's like a premonition.

Yes. I have that experience also with my mother. Oh, I don't ever dream of me. No, Paquito. But when my

abuela I was here in your CEP, was in my recamara. And in that moment, I'll say what happened.

It was at the 8 of the night. One a decina was the only that had the phone.

I would say her name, Do Nia Pina. It was our family, my mother my mom. My mom

was and result that in that I was I was I'm I've got to go

to the window and a voice yeah me I'm going Piri

Cuit the voice of my abuelita in that in that moment

amalia comadri amalia comad amalia you know so is that so

and in this he went my mom and Passed, for outside, I go,

Mom, my abuelita just got to do, Lala. Oh, chamaco, no, don't you

say that's saying this. He went to my mom and he went to my mom, and he

did you, how you? Chameau? He came to be to my abelita to me

at the window. He said, I said, I said, I'm, I'm,

I've I've seen to my people, and many of my people, and many of

And then I, I say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, wow. So, so you know, no, you know, don't know, so you know.

And something. And something, in this case, Paco, are don't but not I've tried to to develop those,

Paco, because there comes the other of the situations. You have to do a pacto. And a pact congeva

to do to do, and a convene. And a convene what you going to

ask I don't want to give. See? Always you can be

to get a more of your family and that's not

I'm and my husband is Christian I think that

that I have helped to that I also to have

also the protection of God because I think

that all that God is that that not

believe in God to the man more valiant in

in his precise moment he will inquire and he will implored

so so so I think that I have helped

I have my situations I have my investigations

my experiences that I have lived but I don't

I try to I to I so so

so so so so so so It was to have a encounter a

very very to be being a person by a person I don't

know that could get to happen if desire to more or to go to

get to the barul I don't I don't I know I know

is that really is something is something is very and it and you don't know

the consequences that you can't to try to my family or to my descendants. No, no, no, I don't want.

There's part of the scriptural where they say that is until the fourth generation or to the sixth generation, me it seems? So, it's wrong. The maldiction. So, so,

I'm very, Paco. So, I have experiences, I've lived experiences that I've lived with my family, and something that I'm going to tell. Day of Muartes.

Okay. My spouse and I vivied in the place of the pantheon

in some departmentitos that there my my daughter was a

recent nacida my husband and I but for my work

periodistic like when you're in a middle you start you start

for The note of MIRT. What he was. So, so I I had to cover all

accidents, all this type of things. Logico that no there's there.

There's an order of entry, but the out of not there. No, there.

And always, I've been very controvertido and for that's, it's,

the style orope's. It's always my style and create something to

create a thing, create something that in the of the people

that's keep grabed. I'm going to a way to my pass.

Sure. So, I'm for garned the note of eight, that's

like all the people, people, I'm at that at that now,

with the competition of other media, we know, we've had passed and so

it was the one, two, three of the morning you, you're running

to to cover the and to talk photos, that I would

say, I'd the pain human and agenno. But it's your work. It's your

work, exactly. And you're obligated to do. And that's where my family depended.

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and in a cajita, so, of madera, there we put to my and the messia because I used to and she messia

no, in the middle of the camera I'm at that hour and I'm saying

there's a okay I'm I'm a I'm always I'm I'm a man

and the I'm always I'm a man for my father that was my

trainer in Cordova also he was he was he was he he was

my passion are the motos also also So, I had a motor that I liked much,

a motor a little crawls. But in that patio, to make the motor, I had I

had to pass in the middle of two matas of and with much a lot of

and I was going to and he was just to the door to get to get a

and I'm and I'm got my motor, me I got my motor, I'm porton,

Ibro the porton and it was to start, the more was to get to

get it, I'm up to the motor in liberty and the

panteon has to the porton there are like

about about the end of it's that's the patio

of the center I'm my motor and I run

and No, arraunca, the motor. Oh, no, it's not. No, it's got to regna. I'm going to regauntar, me going to regauntar, because I'm going to get to time. He'll have the tank full. It's got in gasoline. Ah, has to be the pass of the gasoline.

The abro? Nothing. I said, I'll be, me agach. But the motor, so you have to count. Here, the front of the motor, me agach, me inko, and I'm going to move to the classic, not? To, go ahead, checkando, here, the bugia and to. in that moment,

then the day of mortals, all the whole and I'm to the part of the

pantheon and just there's in the lightes in the belladders yeah,

I was illumrava and no I'm going to be but in that Paco when I was

inca so I got a frio but it's a frio but it's a frule

that's a cold that's a not is normal to be when it's

frio. This is something scalofry and horrible that's it's when in

when in that when in the park of Juarez is that is that the church

as it's common in Tustepet not respect they're in the carrosas

of the and they get in the kind of they're all but for

respect to the Murto yeah it's a tradition in Tustepet

that they They've got them in the Sentit against you to get to their oposent to his ultimate

morado. Well, there was for me the most terrorific that I've a little.

At start, to hear, murmuyos, yorekeos. But the most impressionate

that was a cabo and a carrette. The famous Carrette of the

Morde? Carrete of the Morde with a sound of the

And if they were that they were laughing and they're and like they are saying but it's a sound

I see I don't know how could to explain to all the but the sound of the

carrette is what you most you impression the sound of the

casks of the casks of the car and sonating the

carret and the sonar of the sonar of the Cadenas. Paco, in that moment, me

I grabbed of the motor, I closed and me inculchiae and I did he to pass

behind me the carrette and the sound and the murmur of the people. So, so in

every, Paco, as you see, I'm going to pass to all, Puck.

When I, I'm to hear to hear all this, something I've

learned, not corras. When you see something, no open the eyes

and get to keep your so. Because if if you open the eyes, there

you're going, you're to be something, something that you could cost the

life, that you don't be. Yes, and if it was the carrette of

the death of the life, who would have seen what would have been

They would have They were They've They're It's the It's the It's the It's the

most, it's It's the popular That's What's In this moment Paco when

passed you're going to think that's a motor it was a motorcycle I got to

I goth Paco I sote the porton pass in middle of those two matas

of the platano that me costed to be to be to be I'm

I'm not stioned the motor the did and I and I began to touch

the door to my spouse. Abrem, open, me, open me, what do you do you,

open me? Yeah, when I went and I went and I felt and trembling. What did you pass?

Let me pass right and I tell you. A. Even, still, me trembled on the

piernas, sentia free and still I still still the sound of the

carretta. And that never never So that's allvita, Paco, those sonies, that murmur. When you you have those experiences, Paco,

never is you can't forget of the mind. Always you always you're going to get to get to that place for that place, the

first that is that experience. Ah, those murvillos that are the almas that was taking

while he's a pass? To do I feel that are spirits chocarrerers that are d'ambulandum

and that the murder to get to the pantheon and in his pass, he was recollecting to the end? As a pen? In pen.

I feel that, Paco. Acquarets that many people in the city, in carteras fall yes and their

arms are there are and they are and something that commit in a moment

many people, Paco, is that enclaves the almas of the mortes, where falles. No, you don't you put a cross, no you put a monument to your defunct. No, you know, not. Because that is like to live and continue living

to be able to be able to be there, see there. It's anclan there. Anclan, there, no they can't part to the light. So, so I consider that there are many that are dambulando and it's when the carrette of the murder

to get to all those that almas that are in pen or the spirit chocarreros that are, that those spirits chocarrero those are we all sides.

In all parts they can find. A spirit chocerrero could have a marto in the corner and that spirit chocerrero can come to ingress to your house

because you're dambulant and he doesn't and he knows that he's not he's in this dimension not transcends the other dimension

and maximus and they're anklan so that's one of the things that investigated about that

and over this case and here is very popular like like here the city there are

many people there are many people and this I've told many many times for example

the tram of a curve to a curva much of that, because then the people say, is that you're about the

time? But it's the place where there's the other of the thing, Paco, that's the I'm going to

commenter. And there motorcyclists that have had been that experience. They've felt when

they're only, that someone's that someone's that's that they're okay. They've

seen, they have been they've been a piece atras and much say that that could

cause accidentes. Because one a murder conge to hauling a other.

So. I don't want to be alone. Accompaniam. Accompaniam. So I think

that's that you have to have to paco. Yes, so is the

experience that I when I in the park of the Pantheon Municipal,

the Hardin of the Swoons Exactly here this You have the opportunity? Vaya. Sarka where I live

my abelita. I was, I was in fact, with the chas for normaltex, but we were the that there was reclusory.

But, but me said, well, we said, we said, and we went, and we went,

the fact when we were going to have many things, because the radio that had in the Speedbox,

that had in the portal, that had started to from a before, was never stood

of the whole time of the puras negatives. My my brother also my company was

that way. Grabed and all the archives were done they were they never couldn't

transmit it for them they were they were doing and when they were in the never

started. Not were not we're very much or not they're not they're

no, we're because they're so they're because they're so when they're they're

they're trying to try to to do more we're more educated possible but if we're

welcome. And, in fact, me said, this is new or is where there's a where it's a pesadisim

is the that you say. This is the most old. The most antivu. And there

are there are people good and people more. Yes. And there is a pacco.

There are cases that you're going to pass to some videos of what I did with the pantoneros. Okay.

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basically the person is there, her father, her father, his-awel, was pantheon. The kids and all. And are my familyaries. Ah,

a poco. After that, Paco. So, So, not a quaker they count in the anecdotes,

the experiences. There are to know to get them because pese to my families it costed

much to put them. Because he's, oh, Val, is that they're going to be,

they're going to me. That is the case. The people, a lot of because

they're going to get to don't know to get a loco so, that are that they're

bad. Exactly exactly, Puck. I think there have to have to

have to Respect, Paco. Sure. For that the people have that opportunity. Today I think here,

like your media, does that opportunity Paco to a many people, to get that that's

that experience, give a know what that earlier said, ah, that's no exists.

Today, even the phenomenon Omni, yeah is officially recognized. Yes.

Not not to say Ogni that Or aliens. Or alien. It's object volator not

identified. No, is saying that are extraterrestes or enanos reds, no.

What you see as not is not not is related to that. So, so

these phenomena paranormal today agaran aog precisely with

programs serious like like the that you, that you have been

here, as much have been Many people prepared that I've seen precisely that's invited and

have told. People specialized because not any people can come if no has known about

it or no has been experience or isculting day with this. And in this,

there are there are immersed creillents, fathers, Christian, catholicos, Mormones,

there's of there, there are some who don't don't they're in the

theme, but if this not were or not existier Paco, I'm going to I'm

a precedent because the the church catholic prepare a the fathers

for the exorciism if not there no there would have to prepare to

his own warriors catholic or the parents for exorcism but I

have a doubt that not all those sardotot can practice

do? No, Paco. No Because one And this is a case that I once

I'm a case but just to allow it like to talk about a little a muchachita that

was posseid in the salon where I cruised to the secondary this

the they were in an ambulance the the parrocia more is the

that's here the Padre no the father not received. The other, the

that is the that's the here in the Colonia Santa F no

she no the They were to the cathedral, no they received. I said, no, they're doing.

No, they're in, Paco. Because if not they're prepared, it's very very strong

a demonio. Yeah. And between five or 10 people can't control a demon.

So, can be to be to get to that that's that he took it,

but can't pass to other. Or that that entity can call a

more because it's a an exercite of males, of demons, legions, and can't open

that's a portar and as a potency of energy negative, for that's the force that they're

a person a person posseid a sometimes not they can control in any

between five people. Yes, they're much force. They're much of where

they're where they can't can't can't but those demonios

can go and if the person or not a father he's he's

a lot of control. Aorita I'm understood that's not so six

five specifically to the Vatican five five fathers Mexicans to receive

precisely the study the study of exorcism Okay so

so that I'm important to get to investigate to to

and enterarse of the cases that succeed. Because many say,

oh, no, the fathers also are not to prepare not all. But if are they're to be able to

and the proof is in that that is, because it's because it has made to know

to know to know. For so I don't existier the church Catholic

no would have permitted that the sacerdot studied in the

exorcism. So, so. So, so, so, so, from that point

the other religions what is what they say in God you know you can't in the temptation

of the they're recognizing that there's they're they're knowing the other

other side in the earth God God is the supreme

and the god celestial but in the earth is satanas

is the devil or as you want you want

to we don't mention many things because a sometimes nomor

you can you can call and are things that are things that you know

invocas no invo if you see a book and there are names

of demonios no you don't you atrevas to nombrals no

you not you atrevas to mention those is more

the book. Because if you nombs to a a certain of these, you're invoking and you can't give to it. And you can't have the possession of

one of them. Yes, I want, I remember, to the pill chinita, it's put, ago, after a podcast with a podcast with which then we

collaborated with together, me, my coate, because is my friend, we're going to talk

more more poweros of that and I said well we're going

to do and I'm toped with various grimorios those which I

have understood that I know you can't you can't let's let's do you

so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm and I think okay I'm to document

me to know to say I'm to know I well I need

I need to Tope with a grimorio that in fact it's there's

many copies of these books but not it's really to have access to one real

with his translation of the Arameo or of the Hebrew

to so when I took with an original I I

remember that when I to look to because I'm

digital obviously I see much much symbolism Symbolology.

Muchismosue that have with sales and I said I said I'm going to start a like I'm

a balled of a water free and I said okay no I'm I'm to document

me of other founts to the sacerdotes exorcists a no I don't a predicators

I don't I'm to read to learn and that good that no I said

because it's it's it's a But in the book digital is a

very much because you all the sales you can even the name

of the angels that's that's and it's really, even it even

even comes his name his description and came

how invoking it still so I said I'm no

fichate that you put the thing the symbol

the symbology the It's very to be a tattooing you know

you know you know you just you just you're making with the seal of the

bestia if you know what you don't know you know what you're you're you're going to

you're to be you and you you're to have situations contraproducences

in your life that you not you you you're

you're you understand you myself was the creator of this

mal. The the, the, he was his work, but

you know you know what you are doing. So, not you don't do you

don't invocations. Not paco leas. Leas or you don't

you don't you don't know what you know what they're in the coo

or in your man. If you You're You can't Paco, and this

is for many people if you you can't a pulser in the call you, no

you're not you know, if you're you know you're you're because you

know you know that you can be the pacto that a girl or

some a chisero was to go to another person that and it's

the anillo, of the seal diabolical of the pacto. No

recoas nothing of the panteon. No you get nothing to get to

your house to the house, I'm only, I'm go, nothing

me go, I get, when you go and you visit a pantion, that's

even, even the people have said that the what they do they want

they're that accessories of bazaes that are new

that that you did someone who put to the

venta I have people who are getting to that's extreme or not

a diadema a polsera aure auretes a spejo that they are being in a

a venting a garage or something you know you you've you

the other person you you're much reason Faco in

in really you're very very enterado of many

No, thanks. Because you have a theme. You're, and you're prepared and you know of what I've been. It's a person a young and I think, and here

I'm actually what I've seen in your pocket with with many people who have had seen that contact, in really, you've done much,

much the facility of this, Paco. The fact is the fact of the fact of know, because really I've

talked with much people and I I like much to learn I'm doing. I'm trying all the time

I'm learning with you know, I've learned much thanks to your experience and I

think much people also we're not also to be too too and also know

to know the situation because he said something what do you

do you have a experience for normal not you don't

not you do you do even in the game of the

three Rests that I mentioned no You can't, because it's for the rabble

of the eye of the picture, but in the rule of the game is, no goltes

to be in no, in no moment your your mind, your mindent you know, if you

go to see, who will be to be to be a person, who can know, can't

pass many things, the better that you can't be a position, the the better is

that's that's that you take, and other of the things, Paco,

this is a called to the parents of family, that for many times we're not

because the children, we're we're doing, we're doing, we're we're doing, we're

we're doing, we're doing. They're in there that the visit nace of the love, and

the children can open games that at what they're in their subconscious not know

they're they're there's subliminales diabolical like in the music. The

music has messages subliminales. There are discs or exitos that give messages subliminales diabolical.

There are artists that simply they're saying and it's I did a pacto, I'm because

I'm here is because I did a tally world. Yeah. So, so Paco,

I think there are things that that the people see, that not that's

a lot, that is a reality. We're in a world magical and mysterious

but also there are to be to be into what really and what we

live in reality we've we've we've we've we've things that

for many for many don't it's so good and that good that no

that no that no that no that he not ohal and not

go and the people this called, no jake. No experimenting

things diabolical. Nor invoking things, or nothing, nor do you tattooing

things with symbols. And when they're symbols or be in the name

of a symbology, no they don't they're because are participates.

I don't see if you can't tell this story. Adelate,

adela. Between my investigations that I do. But this we've got, fichate, Paco, of a case to cover

a... Nota. Not. We're citan to go to the old, to the

old rocera of San Silberio. No. I know for the investigators that were for there. Well,

Paco. Well, let me to say that I was that the occasion. Okay. Wow. Wow.

What happened, Paco? I'm going to go. I go with my Osvaldo. Giego to cover the event of a cabalgata. I don't

I remember what president municipal came, but me called the attention. I'm very

kisskiy and very metiche for all. And me just to go to understand

and I call the attention I'm I'm to tell you of things.

And, this, me called the question, I'm there to have to be

here. It's an edification very old. Something has to have

to be the intuition. Here is here there's a something. I'm like to

say, introduce, you investigate. Well, there's a europesa

of metiche, let me take interest to the that's that's going.

And he said a Francisco Lira the engineer Francisco Lira, that is the encargado,

I go, Lira, me does permission to go, I'm not the attention, I'm very amanty,

so, I'm very these things, and I'm, thank you, God, yes, Osvaldo,

me know, me know, I'm going to imagine, 38 years of a periodist, I know,

I know, you know, you're always very controversial, you know, this is your place, this is your

place, and there is the way, overope's. Fifate that me I met me

at the interior of a there's like a there's a lot of a lot and there's

much mursiag and there much guano okay when I when I'm dark only with my

lampra and I'm filming because there are the there are the antecedents in my

page there go with my lampara and the first that I know

I'm when I'm so it's it's a one that the first that the

first that I he's going to move this of Ruehers? What you

say to be a seat of Rue in a sotano of a

rocera Yeah I said I'm oh, there's I'm I'm going

and I go and see and I go get and and I start

to be things like here there are things of here

here here here and I'm go and I'm

and I'm and I see to see things so

so That's up the escalars, Paco. I mean, here are some escaleras. I'm going to go and go. Let's go. I'll, what was the situation? Sal go to the patio. And I'm going to the

door principal, that is Corridis. I sent me a type of vibration energetic that I said, here not am in the things, Paco. Here is a lot. There's a cargnaugitive very strong.

What I'm going to When I enter, Paco, the first thing I see in all the part, the malo plasmoded in middle with his collar,

his wesse, and his quarters. Symbolos rituals, but you know what happened,

Paco? I'm I'm going to see things that I'm here, they're doing something

that's a thing, there's something. I wanted to enter and like something like I don't me

I said why not now I go I'm going to see what there's I got my camera and me

I'm when I when I went to the right right where I

did it all the symbolologies and all what they said in 666 symbologies and all

what they use of the ritual I go in a like a

niche of It's normal. There's been to have been a virgin or something. You know,

you know, you know, the other the other rather than, you know, they were in a place

to be a place in a place of a doracion or of the other. When I

go and I'm so I'm and I'm here, here comes something that's

going to let's to be a to be Paco, this, that I'm to be

to be a comadry. me it was a jukila was the virgin of jukila

this here he had a medallita yeah of the of metal or metal

or that's here here came the medall when I when I

went to that I'm and I want to I'm to to enfocar

what there of chisery this this he went back

so here here PAS! Salio it was going the medallas. She dispelled

like if someone me had had hailed so for more that I didn't

I don't I'm I'm wow there there was the medallita is the

first occasion that I'm talking publicly not it not not it was I

did it did I'm committed a error I I found some monedas

agarro a moneda I said caramba monedas that was the worst that could

have done for so I don't agarren things I know but

me me called in special a money a I

got I get to make the man paco

like they they had put in the lum he

he came and the wow and I did that

and I I went and I retired. I retired, but I started to feel bad. And I gave to say, me said the engineer Lira, that he's the...

How you've seen? And I said, hey, see, I mean, O'Baldo, it's a thing that here no I can't, well, no, but you can't, so, who are you? So, you're, so? You're just, and The way's, at the 3

of the morning, one bigita, that is a witchie, he's going on the way, and enter, and

that is the that is the he's the he does it? Ah, or so, enter, where you enter?

I'm where I'm in three. So, it's coming because there, to the bottom there's another

body of the serviceery. It's new. The front they have they have been, but it's

the big, grand. Well, came, I, they said that they

they would have come a bigita of a black nobody

nobody nobody doesn't nobody's and he's and he's to come

and he and he to do the thing and does it and do it and say

to do it but but the most curious never never

never never they never to where where to

where where how how how so so so

so that pauta that made the attention and then I was in the

investigation Paranormal Texx I said I said I'm a location so I'm

but you know what's what you did that that's you know that's

that's that was that was not the the warri no the that he made

he said he said me said a person that part that part I put there

was with a and this and not he not he he no

he could control That broo He's called Genaro And he was Our collaborator He invited

To be there He did he He said And he was About this Of chisos And all And of the

Portals Of all What he said Experienches And so It was a So it was On the

night And so They were In my studio In the studio The Stile Ropeza

There And they They were And I And I And I We did a mosa and all this. For that I said, and they went to that location.

And was the Brucho Genaro. Now, I'll tell what happened then. When they're in the location, the Brucho genaro he says, they're living there. He says, we're going to start. We'll do a ritual because we're going to open the portal to start to that we'll give them permission and begin to do things here.

but no I want that nobody is a approach so

the and the he's a ritual but why did that

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I said, you know, you know, this is very big. here has to have been a lot of people and, but much things. You've

have seen a lot of like things like, so many mrs. Yes. He said,

My, Zvalo, I'm going to say, but no see if you know,

well, but I'm going to take a loco. But here she appears a

little like of 11 years, Delgatita and morinita. I'm I've

did you, I've did the front and he I go, no, he said, here,

here, here, here, that's what what they were what they were what they were what they were

to see, yeah, yeah, see, they said, so, well, that she

was, she had and he and he and he there, he said, Genaro,

the broho, to open the portal. When they were he, opening the

portal, the friends of investigation paranormal had been in the techo. And in that moment,

above of the techo, they said they're, but there's the transmission, and they were like a sombre. And hey, see, here, and so what, and

his radios and all. But, yeah, it was passing something a grave there about. When Genaro was abriending

and other other company were there, the, the engineer, so he occurred to get to the moment

in the moment in that they were doing the The opening of the portal You know that

when it's the aperture of a portal of the brute

he has to be to be to be concentrated You don't there

nobody because it's the aperture the portal and

you can control that he went with his

and his son and also also with his

husband when they when they were there in the

moment the The only that he said, Tomenes of the hand and not let's

say the guru general. In this moment he opened the portal and

the first he was to the little was the first. The

first in to get was the person. You made to come to be

a and he to do get a world. The per cent the

perils received the animals are that they're that they're in that

was the was the energy that received like if had been with a convulsionance

the the woman no the she was to get to start

because there's to the circle but the engineer the the engineer

no he did time to do that's he was the energy of the

energy of the portal and was the the other who were the

people he was the most devil because always the energies

malas are against the more and if not you don't you're

not it's not the and it was when took the

possession and they're going to get them and they get back

and then now so I respect the the bruch no has

a lot of a chaparito yeah yeah she he was

he he had he put down and you know you know you

know a person and All of them not they could control. Then this

he started and thence comeganse because they're discontrol they've gone to

there's there's there's that's that's there's there's there

but no they're so they're so respect but there's there's

there exist Tremend so I've done when when they put the part

because the brou began to to the hands and I saw, because she's a chaparrette. Yeah, yeah, I did.

Yes, yeah, I did. But the voice that had the engineer was different the other than. At this, no, I don't know I heard. He changed the voice, then.

He changed the voice because they said that what they said, I'd say in peace to my daughter. The person

was the father of the little. And what he said, what he's investigated, or what

was so, the, the investigations and for that this I can't say I'm going to

I'm going to I'm going to like a voice I'm going to I'm saying I'm saying a I'm going to there are

there are new the edificio no the edificio well you know that all the other other side does de count that one

a little a little so I see I see I'm so I'm oh Oh,

I see, like that someone about but there's a rote when I'm here.

Here I'm here. Here I hear the voice of a woman. And result that

the little bit of the little to get to one of the tankes

of the water. Okay. It's what it's what's that's that's

that's that the thing that's but the but the who was that is the who

that's the who is the that's the day she was going to do that's a idea,

that energy of that energy of the father, over the protector, I imagine. He thought

that they were going to do to do that she was the reaction that they said that said,

that said, degen in peace to my daughter. Wow. Tremendissimo. That's the

case, and until the fact if you have the opportunity to Rosela St. Silberio,

right, is occupied. Yeah, borrower, pinted, precisely where was all the

symbology. The symbology. Fortunately, I've the opportunity to take the photos and I've got

with much reserve, because also it's mal to have the and they have them

andalas exhibient much. But there was too precisely that center I think I

feel I'm ceremonial of rituals. Yes. How are This This happens In places

Abandoned Those are So are Cargated So the quantity of energy That's That's

That's Effectively I don't See has Has been Has said That energy In places

Yes Yeah Yeah Of actually Well Once We Once we

We're What we In the Cedderale The Tuxpe The Tragedia Really Ah, yeah

It's It's Marcared for the story. Yes. Markedissimo. So I

remember that I was in the park. Yeah we went to go to us and some hot dogs.

Like we said I was and I was with my brother and another friend and we us, we

was come there in the banqueta. There's no chak in the front to the cattedral.

There was the access abirt and me said a friend and we that we'll get to see what there.

Well, well, we're going to come. It was like at the night. And in when we're to get us

to the part where said that was the father and his son, that's the part of

where he collapsed the the techo. Where does the place the where you

there are there and there were. Yes. I sent how you.

So, how you enter to a a place like if I'm a climatized

frio and I said this place this place is a caragatism I remember and even I'm

put in a putter and he's let me say you know I said oh you know no no

let me let's see I think I'm here and we we're going because I know

a part of that is a church is a church that day of today today they're

doing today I don't I've done I've been I'm I'm not so this

You know, it's that in three, he's sentientissimo, and the three, I go those three, because after that, the other, the other, the other, the other than the other, he said, he said, but I, well, I wanted to, I said, no, I said, no, I said, I said, I said, I said, I'm a bit meagos, for what I look? Yeah, for what, I'm going to be prepared, Paco? And, you know, you guys, something, something that protect. No, we'd have nothing. We'd have there,

we'd be, to see what chingau be I? Yeah, that's that's malo, eh? It's a malo, exactly. And you know, because there's energies in a church?

Because how many people defuncts enter to the church to receive the ultimate santosolios? Yeah. Yeah, there's. There's other.

There are two Obisps. The catechardars. Yes. There's people enterada. There. Another of the

things, is close of the Casa Verde of the Museum of a lot of you know

you know you know you know and there are going to pass socese I think

here I'm going to comment something that I'm about I'm going to because

no I'm in that house well in that Casa Paco

anterior before was a hospital put to to think

how people were so the morgue was to the

fond of what is the patio of the patio of the Casa Verde.

So imagine the energies that were that were in that were

in the people and still the morga there still. So there is

there is much a charge in this museum regional Casa Verde

see and I feel that are going to pass those are

normal to I'm going to criticate much, but on the over a reason,

no, there's that there is that there's really, I'm always I've

said, places where there's a rummation where there was a success

like, like what is what is a person who was a life, it's

of the law, we're going to see soceses paranormals. It's,

no is not a casualida that in the hospitals, places always

always always see, even One of his moment I played of the famous Cerebecera

I don't say the name of the market but in a principle the intention was to

enter because many people there were a a spectro of a

and in the tunnels in the in the in the tunnels in the I worked there

many years so I'm so I wanted to to document

to the people were not the no me didn't enter. The

people who see the channel from your know that when, the end of the

matter when we're when we're not going to the 10 000 subscribers. I said

if we can't have a grab a Cerecercerer I go to get the set

the solicit I'm like five six times to the area administrative

this they were they're not they're not they're not they're they're

they're they're and they they're they're they're they're they can't

it's that it's it's a a disprestigio is that is that in the thing is that has been in

has been in people, it's not I'm trying to talk of the time, but very recently there's a

case. So, the quantity of things that are there are there are there are very

very much. Fiac, I'm going to commenter something for those Suse Pecanus that

a little not know they know, and at the people who work in the people who

to the malos or to say, oh, you're so you are

a lot it's a lot of, you're that's allucinated of what you're

the first that's what you say, that's that's that's that's

that's that's that's place of the city there's things

that's there's there spant yeah yeah because and

precisely I had the opportunity to give a permission to the principal in that then, Lenore Ramirez, that me gave

the opportunity to do precisely an investigation for a normal TEX, and I was to get a

old reclusorial that was in the patio tracero to the stationament. Yes, there was there.

There's things, Paco, and it's I've got to them. There What happens to this? And there is an friend that I knew. And he's

a little, and he was a little. Well, well, we've seen. And there's precisely graved. Wow. Let's tell you that there, lamentably, for the

situation of the people that live in there, there was a far ranchos intern. Where there were were Muartos. Or reclusos that were there

of a of many years. So how how's energies of this

type there? And apart that not people that were good conduct

people that were involved that were involved Now there there

was a there was a with the collar

that had had where is the presidency, today today is a restaurant of the

people muditas and sordomudas but in the the wall there's the kitchen to the

there are a diablo they pegged a clabo and in that clabo was the collar

and the internal you know you know what's there is that what's there is there after

after to fomar his drug in those years. Right now you can't talk

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and it was sonnable to the door and then I'd get around You know, he'd peggia To say they'd pick them to the Diablo And with that hauled for

to bring to a internum that's the that's the case that

he done so in the part of the part of

a possible lamentable in a fugue in a fug

and they did an a a tunnel that was

a office to a above of the Paras

Municipal as to tell of what was the called chaparros

before of the police preventive opened a warrens and they

were in their intents to escape it was a massacre yeah and it

was a massacred of the time of the the fugue

of the fugue and in this office in cases so move the

things, disappear things, they're they're they're in a piece and no

appear. Wow. There are things that happen. And I said,

I know, they're something? You're rea? No? Yeah, yeah,

so, so, yeah. Well, yeah, tell me, I see the story,

and I see that so. The really, Osvaldo and you, and you

how you know, I've been many years here, I see stories of here,

and I know with this, for so you I know, I go, always have to investigate. There's a history of your CEPFEL,

know their antecedents. There are cases here in Bruchas that many don't know. There are cases that I'm going to say, you rentas a house, Paco. You don't know

to who you're renting the house? Yes. It can be an adorator of the Santa Morty that he could have their niche.

They can do things. And when they're in that case in that casa Mariah. It can be a person

that's a person who's dedicated to the burglary, he's a negativeity in that house. It could have done a lamentable and there's a kidda. One person that's a kidda, there's a centida. So, so, yeah,

so, a lot of people say, I live in the center and so therein things. But you know what's what you said? If you know, you know, you know, to know?

And this is a story that also is a story that also is a story that I've talked for the I've talked about

many but I'm my case I came to a house that's a recent remodeled

and I'm so it's beautiful because I think you look, it's a bit of a house but when

I got when I'm when I'm found that the death that the people were and we're

we're getting to see in dreams in paralysis of the my husband and you were where

we got we came that the house was infestated we we've got to do

process of Limpia and only so, because it's... No,

we could. We could. If, in fact, we're we're not normal, now we're

not we're more, but the people that was something, something said, I've said

here, it's much cold, but you're there, and it's a free. The

environment. It's pesed. It's pesed. If you you're the opportunity

a day, visit the Palace Municipal and if is possible, Pied the

I think that when I've I'm investigation paranormal for security

we put a two elements because we we're to enter to some not in

the interior but so we're there we're we're we know

we're you know that's there's an element a woman and was

a caberer an element of police a official you you're

you're you're they're they're said that they're saying that's not that

they're not we're we're because they're Fugate, first

the element masculine. Oh, that's the pass a of the lans. And I go to the chava. And to the chava

and I said, you know, but what you're seeing is reality. It's went. And we

said, and we go, he said, look, no there's there. There's all right.

I'm going. There, if they need something, we're going to let's start in the commandantz.

There us chasas a grito, no? But the other not we got and what

was what happened? There we did contact with the Halapa. It was

a young that's he's he's a one of the time. Only

he was to go to see a and they were so they're so

he was to the carcel. Did you do contact with your spirit?

I had told to those of the paranormal I said here

there there and I see precisely when we're there

there there In the second On the second On the second On the second At the front are in

Some of the offices But the But the There's When we were When we were The first

Apparition Okay So So, no Apparce No, No, no They're

Sombras Not are very Definates But they're I mean, Vierer See?

I'm Here, Here, in this cellda Vivia The Halapa So he Yeah

It was A chapo Fibate So, thence, then, thence, so, not have any 17 years, 17 years, but yeah, I'm involved in things very delicate.

Wow. So, then we had a cell special, I lived alone. And, yeah, I'll tell the other story of the way that was fugue, because this also also, too,

very, very, incredible, incredible, of the locoes, how it's got to the police. Well, when we went to, we did we,

and we said, let's see, we, we'll see, let's the contact with a galap. And it was when I go, Calapa, you're

because I've seen because I've seen, to come me in the door. One,

yes, and two, no. Tass! Yeah, was he. It was he. It was

he, and he was when they were when they're to interactual Paco. And

they're to be things. There are many things there that's there that

It's what happened? Why? Because there are many people who have passed No have transcended?

No has transcended. Why? Oh, you know a manned in the amphitheatro.

To the fossa. A fossa. But the arm and there's there's a

yeah. It's anclan. There are enclads to those that, lamentably

then X there passed things sanguites there got to there

got to the other not going to say the name of the president

municipal but he had a experience paranormal standing there in the

presidency municipal new because the new presidency and there was the

new presidency when they were in the palace they were they changed

the new presidency there this person I'm not going to

give the name for respect I was he

was he when I saw a a little in front of the car that's in the part of

in the part of the stationationation are in the end of the and there's a door that's a

the entrance principal to get a passie well the she passed walking and she

passed and the and the grito was fulano of that's

man and let me say you that's the president municipal always

was accompanied in the Presidency Municipal I'm I'm afraid I don't see

so fear or or to avoid what I don't do the name of

that but he's counted by him wow the

the palace municipal have passed things and one of the recent

and one of the recentes have detected after brujeries in the Palace

Municip Debe to yeah have been found there belators

and for there so they're doing they're doing chis there in the palace van and

they're and they're so there's there things that there there

there are magic mysterious tenebroso and of affluencia is

normal in Tustep Tepet there there many there much history

there many many It's a city very big and occurred something that's

a lot of that's going to forget in the memory of the Tustepecanos. 1,44

the inundation. The inundation. How many people have died? How many strah to the rio?

What's people that went to the river to the city and they were in your

patio? In my patio. Yes. And you know you know that could be

someone. Morando there. Exactly. For that's tremendous. For that's true. For that's your TEPs, there are many stories in TUSEP

of places scalofriantes, tenebros, and enbruched. Bastantissimo. Of course, it's something that always said to the

people, but that good that a person much more more serious, it's firm. So, really is real

what's in the city if they're they're going to get to get to certain places,

that are places very cargated are very so that's that I'm

not much the exploration I'm more to be here in my studio, platicable and we go

to my houseita yeah but I'm to get like I'm like I think I

think I think I'm a lot of some day vivas a experience too

because in the life in the only say they say they take

and take the experiences and vivette and viveless because what you live is

you're going to get to who's going to see that more after after after the

so so that never you never you keep with with the

doubt with the always there always there is a

very to do and to get the experience for that you

could you also talk and talk and say

if is true because I me past. And I

live for to tell it. And I live to talk to talk. Paco,

I, I say you, I say I'm in this life, we've

come to come to a mission. Yes. But what what we do we do,

here we're so. And a sometimes there are people that are

people and they're to pay what they did here.

There there things that at the I can't say that one of them, and lamentably, all those those those people who are in the

life, always are going to live the same moment of their death. Lamentably, is a situation that's a question that is a person that

can't take the life, because not was destined to in that moment if he was the decision, not was it for the Creator. A manna or something that has always will have to live that same moment

Penando Penando For that's that they're saying Oh, you see, he's vial, the mortal and it was

called, or this, or this? Because at that hour, in this place, it's a

incident and that is what is to suffer that person. Yes. Yes. It's what I've

I've heard me have talked about people who know of this yeah your sepets there are

many many times many many temples of all of all and all

and energies good and badas but if you want you want to live a

experience unica unica you can you can you can live in

the Muro Boulevard I have I have I have experiences And we're

And we're And we're going to And we're So, I'm going to And then there's new alumbrated, because have

succeeded things there that have seen. Yes. Because have passed cases Lamentables. And see

have seen things, and they've heard, also, and it's the place appropriate. Precisely

a lot of the river. At the side of the river. And you do say one things.

Ultimately, no we're not going far. Today precisely me

took to a time. Osvaldo, no has been to the

point to have heard grittals. I've heard I go, I know

for why. I know for why. Pas a case

a lamentable there. And And there is the place is the pass

of the Yorona. For there pass, for the Prundt Colgant because

what I do you do you do not because the Yorona came or the

carretta of the murder of the people, and the people could be

to some some of some some some they're that

they're I live for there near the the

but it was from from the park Carranza that's that's where

they were in the young those and they was out of the that's

why I'm why that's why that's it's that in the

era of the revolution was the was the was the people they were

the people that that I was so no I didn't

in that in the park Carranza yeah in the mere

skin where they were the there were a large, frondos Yeah, so, so, well, those are the

families that were there were saying that in the time of the revolution there they'd

they'd to the people. To the the persons. So, then from there, always

was to get to the Yorona, the carlata of the Marl. I'm to get to

St. Bartol where they were the listening to the Pondon of the Pondon that's

the point for those who They've heard the capitals where

the pap and a little and a year when he's

my friend my name I see so common, so typical and that we

say that in the time of the revolution, it was this, this, this, to this, to this,

wow, so really are really things very fertes. We're going to the other

social of the general, Oropesa that's that you're coming you can

find out in all the social as the style Oropesa where you go sub

there's news, now now so all what is all what is also

also, as as you can see for me it's to have here with

us with all the family extra normal. I really thank you the time. It was of the

chapters more long and of the most I've enjoyed the fact I'm sure I'm aburried us

to have been aburried I'm I'm in your program all the time

that you have transcended much I think I'm overpac but

it's it's but there more but there more Cped and the region there

many things that Fortunately, my 78, yeah this year, 39 years of career periodistic, to my 58 years

that I've been recopilated from my life, from, from Corkdova, Sanctuary, where is that? It's very

interesting that we'll visit a second time. We're going to let's, if this video gets to

7,000 likes. We're going to pay 7,000 likes in YouTube. The Mr. Osvaldo

Lopeza will be to return with us I think the doubt that we'll talk about

the places the city what happened what happened and if have more stories

are very because it was very I'm quite I'm a lot of my

experience is for my experience, is for the familiarity that I have

with the sepulterer of Pantio is to tell the story of the

tombas yeah of the woman that's why she appears a

woman of a woman of a black there precisely in the pantheon, in the

street, when they're to have traversed. Because the Sendix suede in cases and see in things. Yes, it's where

are the kids. Exactly. For what? Because there in the amphitheatro. What was in the amphitheat? What viviences

did we? What was what was what was precisely the one that was the autopsis?

And what he said? Because in the fossa common what happened in the Fossa Common or why

it's going to because of the tomb that was that's that I'm the story I've heard

I've heard what I've heard about the case wow for the proper sepultor

why the the bruch he he went the carpa because no

I wanted that they were to be they're they're they're they're

Because in other sepultura, where there were another case, they were the box of the wesos ahead of the sepultuilers.

Wow. And another of the cases, where a woman had to be their rituals.

And today you could say, and I'll present the video that I'm going to talk about when I

move in the cruces in that place. There are things that I can tell. All

that For the second part, my friends, appoying the video, give me like. Recuerreys 7,000

to have to return to Mr. Osvaldo O'Ropeza. The fact I enjoyed much of this chapter.

I hope that you are very. And much thanks to those who got to the final.

I'm a very a great and we see a new new chapter. My name

is Pacuarias and we see next the next. After the next. Bye. Bye.

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