EXTRA ANORMAL - 86 | La casa de mis abuelos es habitada por CHANEQUES y visitada por NAHUALES

Episode Date: June 8, 2023

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My name is Pac-A-A-Rias and I'm very happy to be here with all this occasion I'm very content because me a good friend today me a bi-Kintana. How is Abi?

Hello, Paco. I'm very contented to be with your auditorio, with your public, things paranormal, things that put in a... And if you get,

things that, we're in a feel chinita, no? Here we and know, you know, I'm very content of that you have invited.

Thanks, Abby. Before start, well, Abby, record us your social and, and so, to do you do you know,

to do you do that people to go to your work? Sure, that's so, uh, uh,

so after a little, I'm making an interview for a revista and me, me, they said, that I'm,

um, polyphacetic? Multifacetica. Because, because I go radio. I'm a locutora of radio community, I do the noticier. But also, I go like collaborations.

A lot of TV bus. A few, we do collaboration with other means of communication. And, well, you know, I mean, you know, I'm all the related to the artists of the region,

darles publicity. But also we and we're with the notes general. Genialissimo, Abby. Muchis. How can you can find in networks

social. Okay, in social, me you know how Abi Quintana TV in Facebook, which is what most manage I try to this

platform, but at the time through the TikTok I do things more people they can't find like Abby Kintana 3,

so, so I can't find out of those of those who I think I'm doing in the media

of communication. Okay, Abby, muchissima thanks, family, well, before I'm

before to start, I want to let us And if you've got it's until because we try them very interesting and we're going to

start the night with a story that they are of those that you like much those that have with the famous Channeques because the

people, fiftate Avi the people the people like we really that we talk about that we're

about because it's a phenomenon that I discovered that I was very known in great part of the Republic

Mexican and and over all parts of the world where the people us It's

but it's very curious because they're because they're known because they're

like those like those alushes like duendes there's there's many things but

well no you don't go and let's let's we get a

a bande where a place where a sender me a little a

but thanks a a plastic that I took with a person

that is a person that's because they were because

were in these chaneques with my seguer. So this is a megabomba not so they're going

to get them until because this came to interesting. Also, before to start,

I want to the audience that we're starting a new project where where it's called

relato or legends of the call. Disculpe if me I'm

I'm a mind. But it's a project that we we're starting where

where the people of the region has many people of my people

and in the So, then you're going to start to submit this type of material to YouTube

for the people of Spotify, because then the people of Spotify, not much not hear of yeah,

also, also, also, so they can do it for the content extra that we bring us

for all you and we don't know, we're going to start. Avi, this is the question,

I think obligatory that I do do you know to do you do you think you're in the

phenomenon paranormal? Fifate that is something that's always the interrogation to the

person, but it's something that I don't descartal and the truth is that is that I'm so you do you?

Yes, what was the experience that you changed your form of your form of or simply

you convinced that all this exists? Fidate that something I could say, I think

that in my family because also I'm mentioned right before

I'm I'm I'm from the municipality of Zoyaltepe a

municipality that pertens to Waxaca and that, you know, of culture is part of the

region of the Kewa Pampedo but of the Masateka Baja. Well, here in Soyaltepe in Temascal,

Oaxaca, which is where pertains this place, fiftate that there they're much for example

of what you about you of the Cheneks, of the famous doendes. Okay. So,

so here I'm going with this with you, because I know, I think I'm of

a family full of a creencies and a culture and that, in this zone,

my abuelos, who are people indigenous, are more Atecas, always, since very little,

us have been referring to this, of the famous chankees. So, are, so,

the people have done that the general, these legends abunded much that the abelites,

that the abelito, that the abelito the abelito, that's, even, even, sometimes

the people, You know, is that they're like like they're like like they're like, but really it's repite much these types of situations.

But for me is real, fichate. For me it's real. You're going to tell why and because, because, fichate

that in what personal, when I was more chica, especially we we're a family that we like the culture

and that we we're very apegated to the for mentionart to what he was a costumbrava

before so, so, so, so my my abuel, who is, this, I think that I always

always said that we're in little, and over all of babies, we're always, we have, for example, in the manta's, because so they were

in the mantas, my parents had to have to work, they'd have to go to the communities to work, then we're just they'd have been

with our boys. So, then my primos, the kids of my kids, all, we've been in the same house with my

abel, because our fathers had to go. So, then so I said my my abelowel, that many times he he'd be in the

maca, for them for them it was normal, for them for them to see that we're

that we're in the manta or in the maca so it only, but that we'd the sombre in the

nights, no? Of the the children little in the house, no,

there were more than the more chiquitits that were in the maca or that were in the mantas.

So he always said, no, several times those mesi or those arrulled

the chanke. Passed the time Of course We've grown And I still I remember Part of my Niñis

In the 3, 4 or 5 years We've talked We're We're talking about We were In a single CMA or

Sometimes we're In those famous CATres So because Because because Because here is a zone Calurosa

And so Here it's Deskartate Temascal For something It's a It's a zone very coldroza and let me

say to that sometimes or we're we're in in the catre or a sometimes in the petate

okay because we're we're used to we're used to the face in your house a description Avi

what is the petate I mean I see but for the people that we can't that we

the petate and the catre the catre okay for the for the people

that we're being being being being being being being like a camera that well

but that's formed in a camera he's made of made. But that has, this... It's like manta? No, no, it's manta.

Like yute. Ah, jute. So, so you know that's made of this, um,

it's two, are two, can't say, two mongos, so, for post-lars, so, so,

the yute, then this does and it's, so it's made and it's form like a camera. But obviously

has been ventilation because the jute has ojitiotes and so, so, what I did my diffont

abuela is that put in a sabana a delgat and there we're not now. Now,

what is the petate? The petate well, it's being being being like a alfarmra

but it's like a psalmita that they're like, it's like

tegier. Tejida. Tehida so, then so it's so it's a rejito

and there it's like it's like a little a or a

colchoneta but great and you know you know you know you know you can't you put in the

carmadas you know the cobiha and all so we know we're very we're very

we're very in this zone and so I with my family and in the house of

you know we're also we don't we even even today you get to the house

and there there a there a maca there there catres because when when the

family to get that we, well, in the catre, because then then it's more easy, because it's more easy because it's in one side and it's in another, well. So, it was what did my abuela,

and we, we, we, we, we know, we, we know, sometimes in the corridor or a sometimes there in the house, because, before we had,

we had, we had a house of Palma. So, so, my old was said that with the ventilator not we could

doorm, because if not we were to get us to get us to and, and so, because he had, a man

that said, no, no. It's malo. Malo, malo, the ventilator. And a

past of that there was an energy electric, I'm my abuel occupable

the, how, how they were the candelers? Ah, the candelers. Candilers. I don't know

how they called. My wife said candils. A good a little that they had this petrolio

or alcohol or and with a trapito or a mechita and it had been to me that.

And over all that part and so for that said my my abel, that when I used the manta's,

that when he had the omens, and for him was the most normal. So, so, so, so. So, so, that if I was

a cheeneck. It's the chanek. But it was like a naturality Yeah, and with my abuela. So, for it was like,

that just to keep to to care of the children to be that to be a maldard or that's, but

what they could do you know, so when we're babies, they said, they're to have to

have been care well, arm well, arm well, in the maca, but obviously we've grown and we've got

three, four years. My Abelow was in dialecto because in this area and us also, for

example, I've been to a family Masateka that's about the Mazzateco of the area.

So, my abel my abuelo always had about in Masateko to my abuela and

he said to take with the children or to us we're not in dialecto because I

know the I don't know the 100% but so. And so and always I always said my

abuel, this, Cuehens and if you talk to a little, and that's so you're

not going. No, because if you know, they're they're going to get to a coveh.

I said my brother that there were a coveh and that were to show those and that

they were to teach us and that we're going to we're much good. And we we're always

my brother, my prima, we're we're always we're we're

we're we're to have to have to care. But fifte what

what me passed to me in the personal and also to my brother and my

brother's my brother always always we used to money. And once the money of 10

centavos were monets grandotototas a me still me to those monas

I was in the kindergarten and I made that they were I'm done to my

my name so I'm my friend and my my prime to say well I'm in an

alcanceia no in a carterer or not of this I'm You know, you know, we're going to scabar back

of the house? Enterrado. Exactly. Wow. We're going to enter those monies. So, o'arly, we're going to. And there we're just, we're just, you know, interrowing the monies.

Tendriamus, we'd, like, four, five, six years. So, this, I'm put to enterer the monedas. Then, then, the day next, I'd say, to, uh, my moma, to my, a little bit of, hey, mommy, this, I'm going to

go, yeah, I'm going to tryer my treasure. And I said my abuela, what's Tesoro, chama? And yeah he said, well, my moned, mom. Ah, well, well, well, then, I said, go, yeah, let's. I go, I was, I go, I was there. And I said,

to my brother, and I'm pre, I'm going to and I said, oh, I'm going to, and I said, oh, and I was another, and I'm not going to be the monedas. So, and it was the same place. And I said, my brother, and I said, oh, yeah, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say,

and I'd say, no, regress my moned money, no. And you're going to believe that during the time, almost getting the night, in the

same place, at the house, I was I was sitting in a skinnita

and my brother playing on the other side, my my prima and then

I was I said my money, who us have got and I'm

when I see a little and I was doing me, it was being,

it was a man, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

so, Chiquitos. But they're in Ropa? No. No, no. It's a thing that

I don't know if you have been of the sun. No. The children are the

well, we know us we know here in this area. Here, here in Soyaltepe

in Temaskal. The children are those are those who aretos completely wueritos with the

cabo. Ah, okay. This has another name, well, so they know

the point of the language but yeah, exactly. But we We're in this zone

we know us as we're in like the so they're very weird but that's with the eye with the

eyes supermedita I mean that's a thing little bit and you say you say

you say a dweend if you say a but they're well for me they're

so they're so they're so they're saying well the people with the people who have

talked and that they've seen this phenomenon in so they're

in so they're they're they're but with rosters avigentated. Exactly. Yeah, you know,

they're like a aspect of terror. And to me took it, like, that's me kept looking but, nothing of

nothing, and I was like, and I'm looking those like, and I said, my abuel, that what had? Well,

after that, no, I could I doorme in the nights. No, well, imagineate.

No, I was not I was born, and I brazable, my brother, and they were saying,

this, we didn't, we didn't, we didn't, but we're we're trying. And I was and I was

and I was and I'm sure and the money's I'm trying oh yeah you're like that I'm

here's because for that's I mean it's something I think I think in those chenkees

or in other areas like you know they know they're like yes sure that's yeah

I'm sure that I'm sure I'm sure I'm because I'm my mom I'm both when I'm

when we're to live to temascar to me I'm a I'm a lot and after my

I'm a when I'm when I'm that are playing although now now there

not many there's not much there's not many not many matas because

my old I'm don't go to there's many not there

not there there much mountain because there are there are

there is certain there they're in a patenar in a so

a year so I'm then it was not when it was and it was it's

said it's they say the the people grand. Are they're full of

and it's sure. It's true. Because to me took to me pader in a

in a planar they're like the nine, five of the morning and they were little little

and I'm and I saw that. Then I'm there's nothing. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But he

did it to the clave to the clave. And that was the only time in that you took

like you took into this yes? The only one You never subpiced that they had robbed

to someone? Oh, yeah, sure. Yes, for the supposed. There were there's

in the family. Yeah. So, until the time. You know, we're in this part

in Temascal in Soyaltepe and many people, right that we're seeing quickly, and goglean

or rapidly when they listen mil islas, the famous milislas and over the island

the isle the island, are one of the places very known on

level international. Ah, well, my abo, well, my abuel, in a particular, my abel maternal, he is precisely

originary of there, of the island, of the island, to where they see in those beautiful, mil Isles

that I'm so you. So, always my abel, the family of us, to the fact, and

over all over there, yeah, this, there are the family when he gets to the

house, because, there, there in house of us is the reunion. There

they're all. There are, there are, that the sobrients, that the, that the primos,

that, well, that primos herman, that we're we're much to respecter the arbor this family.

So, my abuelo never, that I don't get the name of my tatarabuela, but he

still saying he's your family. So, as we're we've been of that descendency,

of that family, of that culture, that is of the island, then,

so all They don't get there to the house and always there are anecdotes of that you have For example You don't you When you

To get to To your tia That's like No, yes She's it She was We're looking And even

Inclusive They said One of a A prima I don't I remember Her name But

But, sure, yeah is a person That you I think She's She's

So I'm My Abel Is that He said He's He's He was

One or two He's He was He was Three days Wow And he no Apparcia

And no Apparcea And he And then And then What happened No, Well,

We said That's And so That was And so It said, and Notian Salia of the

Isla Because only could It was And then They were Inlanch But

Right And right They're They're Because They're They're They're

They're They're They're They're A remo A remo And And the

And the He He had his With With a person

that's... Pudient. Exactly, in that zone. And I'm talking that said my abuel of of that years,

of when he was a little. Okay. So, he said, my boy, no, is that he

he's a he doesn't he doesn't but in his language maternal, no? He's got,

and we really, so, and yeah passed that history. But, after

so he doesn't much, he'll be like his three, no, like his eight years.

If, no, I'm two years. My prima her brother, this,

he was a okay. And in the house, it's a so I said this, here in Tuxpec?

No, in Temaskal. Ah, in Temaskal. Okay. In Temaskal, I said, you know, I think

to go to to the church, to give to God, Vendita. That's, this famous

Awabendita that you don't have to fall and we don't know in the house,

eh? Yeah, so, so. So, so, I have to go,

because to us accustomed in the house. So, I said, my

abuela or my abuel always they're to have a good for

whatever and more when the people not they're bautisated they're they're

they're they're they're they're or the or the or the woman

exactly exactly exactly it's and you know and so and so

we're to see, to see to my prima to the baby to my daughter

that that I could not I'm not because I said my is that

they're they're and the Yeah, the molest. And I say, but where do you say, here they've been to start, here

they're going to and say to my abelow. It's that here in the house, there's, how I, um,

how did I, um, Chukunanghi, or so it means that the Chanek, that's in dialect in Mazateko.

How is it Chukunangue. Ah, okay. So, I never never had heard heard in Mazateko.

Ah, uh, well, I said that my and I said you know, you know,

you know, you know, here is because he is the he's the of the of the

of the of the of the of the of the of the so there there's

there's a little and that's the baby he's the he's he wants and he

he wants to play so so so so and we before the

the father baptize to the the people there there

there's that he baptized to be a person a in a a man or as like you

want to give us. For example, and me they're going to and they're like they're like a lot of or something like

like they're in a limpa. In languages or in... Yeah, in the language in the language maternal

they're all like a part of you your, your protection your protection before to be baptized

in the church. So, so they've done to do so they're to do you all those others

and a past of that said my well that's not going much time.

It's need to go to the father and that the father those baptize

because if not the baptize he's going to give to get a idea.

Fipate is that we're going to let us a little to get us

a much, but here I don't know if we let us we're going to the

thing Christian Catholic the Agua Vendita represents a

union or presence of God or of Jesus. How is possible,

fadgette, it's very curious that this aught to these entities, making

reference that not are things good. Exactly. So, if it's the

contraparte, if it's what repel the the water bendita, we then we

of something of a demoniaco. I see you see it, oh, you

see, because they are repellied for water Bendita, for water

santa, for that I'm like I'm talking in terms Catholic so it's

like something something that's like something I'm to talk because it causes a

or me and it or me more I'm going so I see what what I

have a posseid the vintage is a white and exactly

exactly it's like it's so so so They seem good

They're Inoffensives But no Are you? Or what Do you? As you It's

It's not But yes Because I said my Abel Is that you No My

My Abuel He said They're They're They're No And apart

Are They're They're They're They're They're They're They're

They're So We're So So So So So

It's Evident that always we we're we're we're we're

we're that part of the culture of my family and the culture of

this area and I'm when I went to I'm going to live for Tmaskal

I was I'm my daughter my little so I'm a

mother even I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

that you they're you know no it's that is that you can I don't

I I think in that, I think because me took to be it. Yes.

I think because in the family they're going to because I know that my abuel no me mean

with those stories. I don't know. I said, I said, I know what when they were my,

when they were my kids, my kids, my eyes and I was to get a autisar. Inmediate.

Inmediate. Immediately. Yes, yeah, yeah. Oh, and the of the

never took, I don't know because normally was normally it was the man.

Yes, because all today, now that I'm I think in that. And so,

and I'm my, my, my, my, when ameces marked, no.

Chupado. Chuped by the Bruja. Yes, yes, the famous marcas,

no? This, I said my abuel, is that they've been to have with the

with the , that's that they're going to get to the children. Okay. Because,

or they can robar his, well, that said in dialecto. So, also,

because if no, there was probability. Or one, or no, or no, or us, or, it was, like, a type of maldition or something. And it was something we were to have, like,

and that's, the medical not going to know really what was what had the child or the child. Yeah. Decia, my abo'clock that earlierment,

well, when the Bruca no, when the brook not was a little, but they'd like something, like a, like a,

and that, At the time the time the the children the children were

so much so for more that you know that you're they're and they're

in the people say that's how you think that's what you know that's

that's but the really is that for example in the family passed

in an occasion with a with a with a she's Tia Prima

something something but always I said I'm said me

I'm I was the doctor, and the doctor, the studies and the studios and the... And we don't say nothing. Everything, all good, all good, all right. So, we're in casa, we're much of that culture of that, you know, there's to runeer.

It's to do a limpia. There's to do something to getarse to those males, to keepers all. So, so, um, always said, my boy, no. And if no,

no, no, no, no, no, so I'm not, with the first grunner, with the first chaman, as you want, you want to do you, you'd call it, well, it's

more, more powerful. More powerful. Yeah, it's a classic. Yeah, no. There's to go to the

city, no, so, to tell this is the good, that's the one, that's the good, and no, me you're going to

think, but it's a person, and you can't your males. I don't to say to it's, I

know, not that's a never, but for that I'm always I'm saying, no, there people that

I say, I respect, I respect, the ideology, respect, the opinion of each person but I'm in the particular I think much

in these things and over all for example in that you have to go to do a cleania that you have to get to get the bad vibrations

I grew much in that because I grew and with that I'm really really it happens as you say the people

will say the people are that no, that's no, that's no, that's no exists or it's something

with the Indian Negro was the brucho that I saw with us here these

these the other times he said he said he made how the people

get back with this type of and they were people were people

that were to make to do and they don't they they're not

and much many we're we're they're they're they're

they're they're they're they're they things and they're

things that's unfortunately never to you you he's

going to say, for them this is fantasy we're in mysticism but really the people

that have been this type of situations of this side where we are we we know we know

we're so every time they say oh yeah is that you you crees in the

bourgeria you think I've talked to be and I have

got to and I know I think in that you you have to do you think you

in that you I was going to say, as well as I was I mentioned. But also I think in the things bad as, I don't know

to where you can get to get to do you. But me had to be it. For example, I was earlier before,

this, already that's a little, no, it's a little, in the radio, there where we have,

the cabina of radio, the duke, the duke, always it's all the time it's all the time, so

all the time. So, so it's, so it so it, so it, and What is he found?

He found a muñico. A fetiche. No, I know how they called. But, but there's many things. He opened,

he did. He took to do you? No. Or so? No. So, so.

He said, he said, no, what's this this? No, manches. Ah, well,

so, is that so. It's that. It's, is that, and I'm he said, but he said,

O'Gan, come. And we say, oh, come, that I think I see that me I found out. Tantra.

Tried to me he said nothing. A secret about your mind guarden the secret no, don't

do you know, not. But, so, so, yes, there are the people who

do this type of things. The that exists, it's to where can get

the mal or that can't to be what type of ritual, what type of or

not know how they you know, but for example, I with the people

that I have gone, for the Limpia, that for to me pass in the way, that's for that's

so, so I'm to talk about, there's a there's a man who even got to me,

that he made that he did, and all the and all the and he, and he's he gotro

the mais. Okay. This, mais, and he he took, and I don't know,

depending on there's, depending on different parts, it was, you know, you said,

you know, you said, you're that you said, surprised, and I'm She let me have

some things I'm saying You know, I'm saying You're right You're trying something But that's To you're going to

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you know, you want to do more clear? But, but me in dialect, no, I said,

but also tell me it's because also, I'm saying, because also, I'm saying, okay,

to the I'm going to say, and I'm saying, he'll get the maris, he does,

he does, and he says, soplal. And that he'll be soplara, I'd say, I think,

so, so, there, in the people that that they use this type of things for...

Enganyartes. So, so, and some things very common that say, no, is that you're

doing, is that you're doing, they're doing something. Yes. It's a classic. Yes, no?

You're because you're a problem. Obion, no? All we don't know, we're

so, you know, you know, you know, you know, because my mom something, something,

something, I'm going to get, it's my mal, are my hormones, things of women. A classic.

And I went with and I said, no, this, yes, you know, you know your one of a person

ago, he said, it's a man, but unfortunately he says, you have an angel that you can't.

So that angel that is doing to that you can't live that part that you're going

that's passing already very so, so, no going to pass nothing.

And it's for that's what I think that I think that I think there's that I think they've got to find those things, that the mukees and those voodoo. So, I don't know how they're naming or no know what they're doing, but it has passed. And that if you feel tensed, that because it's a little, it's like all right, it's like all those, who's people, we're doing much things, that the

job, that in the house, that the kids, that, well, all that. So, all that's you get and a sometimes then we're obviously that we

don't we're not we're we're not we're but I'm don't know the fact

that there people or people who do things and that you can get to get to affect

so. Sure. If the mald exists. And something and something that's

that's that they're people that sometimes are in your circle family or so

and that because you can be bad or for envy or because simply

he you caes mal. So, so, so, are things that you're

because the cases, I'm talking with that person is that is that they're a lot of some people,

are people, are people, and it's what I'm am really much so, so, in your

case, you know, like, you know, no, manches, so, so,

what kind of of a lot. Yeah, so, so, here not is to this, so,

so, here nobody to be nothing to It's affecting, the more, not much but if

it's a very much to be, it's, it's, it's, it's, we're going to

get to that part, this, so, for that to get to affect, me? Affected.

And, and, there's a person, there's people, there's that I've talked to

see, that they do their and, well, with the conversations that commonly

that commonly we're in the church, that the Father Nuest, that the

Ave Maria. But also I've to be to see a people who obviously have other

type of santo so I'm also I've talked to hear and that I've talked to

listen to and I have to hear you is that it's that it's that it's that

they're they're talking for the sands. So I don't know to where is the

theme also of the chamanes of the bruchos of the curanderos

of the medical traditional because also also I took The medicos Exactly That I took

For example In this So in this zone Of the Yeah In Valle National

I went to I'm A year A year A medical A medical A man A man

And I And so And so And so And so And that And that And that

And that You know Where's This is This M Cerro Arrom No no It's

I think I don't I remember But is the area national. Pertenes at the municipality

of the national here in the Papalwapan also. But well the she curing

with puras with puras with orations of the church. So, for example she has

puras puras things traditional and the person that I went to be to see a

well so but there's the different that in best of it's the is the

is the white, it's the web and it's the water it's the also also

it's also And a exist, the, the, the braw that you say the

person is the person that is the woman molest, or that's a ser that not is that's the

and the person, the person that's a person who's called the curandero or the

curandero or the famous bruchos that are malos and that they can do you can

do you do you exist is that really in the ram of the bruchery I don't exactly

like the numbers but there are much There are the brusas Which are the Antigues

That are the Those are the Those are the People are the They're More than this Contact with And they're

Like more Aslidas You know Those who They live in Mountains Serros They're

For example The Bruchas Blankas The Reds The Reds The Reds The Reds There

There's much Variety And each One Like has So certain Forma Form of

But so So if Allas Are So all Blanca. The same. It's dangerous.

It's dangerous. Exactly. So, for all the world, there's great variety.

But you know, and I'm sure, you know this phenomenon, the Nahuas. Oh, clear, and

for sure. And more in this zone, Paca, here in our region, the famous Nawales.

Fifacte. That good you talk to that point. Vena. In the house, in the

house of you, it's that says, my abuel, here I you know the famous

the famous The word, Chukunanghi, it has many significance for us. In a language maternal, it can say, well, you can't call the Cheneco, the doneco, the dewean of the guardian. So, then, it's, here, here is the, he's the who needs, here, in, in this terrain, great, says, here is still. Okay. The lamina, in the

house of us, like in the house of my abuel. Is the lamina, then it's different, the pacitos of a catito and when you listen on the passos

grand is like if were of a person so so

so always the people and we're in the house

coincid we hanged an awal all the nights

right of the house yeah and and that

obviously that when when yeah someone when you see

someone is in the night and to find a

animal but when when when And, I'm in buska of something, and he wants to, I think, I think, dice, when he wants to, when you know, he wants to be chiquet,

and wants to be really the person that is, this, well, it's a person, well, it's a person, says. Yeah, it's, and, yeah, it's, and, and, yeah, it's, and, yeah, it's a , and it's, and, it's just, so, so, so, it's, it's, so,

so, it's, so, yeah, and right that my kids are the more little a lot of the more chiquita a person that's

the lamin, a other part of the other part of the top of the before the the lamin it's

the same and there's we have a we're having a little bit very pegat to the house of a

and the other day we're saying that's you put like you put it and I'm

soomoo and he said what was what my papa baby look what pass here and say, no, you say, now

is that now I'm going to check. Who end up molestating in the nights? Because there are various nights and no they're just going to run. And it's going to go back. And so are big. It's a man that's right. And my abuel, as always, is the Nawal.

It's the Naguil that has lived here all the life. And this, and I've been, more or less, to see, since I've had, I think, like, 10 years.

I've always heard on the house that, this First we had the casita of Palma the mother then the other house that

is the lamina and before we were in that house we had we passed in the lamina when we

we grew a little more and we're we're we're not we're so it's

that are very passos yes and the really we're we're but the

but of the people that have got to visit family family and

the umist of we can't don't in Dormer because there's

presence of many things there's a person that's I said that we're very people we're

in that's curing the house, in that we have to get the bad so it

has been to when when when when we're there have to have to have to

get to get to get to the family so back and we're

we're we're very people and so about with that

tradition that has been my family since many years. So, what when they're people new

to the house they're not they're doing. Well, they say they're not in the house. They're

they're they're in the night. There's a there. There's a little bit of that's there.

What is there? Or, they say, or that they see, that they're sitting in the camera?

Yeah. And that's there's sentado? And to do you don't have passed nothing of that? To you?

To you, to do we? But you you're you're you know, my abuela

us said, or my abuela was always was like a plate, it was a playtick

with the phantasma for a or with the Nahual or with the chanek with the

cause, because the really there's in the house. So that's a

that's a thing. That's a thing. And although it's has been to do the

ramied or what you want to you want, they're they're and says the

says the are the are the are the protectors, they protect here and if

there and if that they bring something something, they don't know, they're going to

they're doing. But also there was a little bit more more than I'm aubel and also the people

that were in a, I don't know, I don't know I don't know I don't know I'm a but the thing, but the

thing to runeer the house, then I said the sir, here is there there's a there's why

he says because because why don't the the chukunangui the chanekito says because

because detrase the house, I, I, I, I I'm all the nights,

said a man, a man, he said, that every that was that I'm

that the month, or that was I don't know, I don't remember very well, I said the

man, he said the man, there was a fire. So, so that was

that said the thing, he's because there's because there money

or or or enter so. So, So I said I know When I was more chiqued

He said No, it's my Dinero that's I'm Reyesing Reyesing to the history

No So yeah So I said Yeah And they said Yes Is that They're

So that So when When it So part There No, it's It's It's to

And after the Fecha It's like It's like a passigito And that Inclusi Right

It's part of the house, but it's for the but there's nothing that's escarbo. So, it's

excarbo for a cemient, but it's a quadro very particular that not he's talked.

And I think my abuel, so it's who has done to do that but I

know, for example, who people, my kids, or my kids or

my nietos, you know, because this is going to be generation in generation, they're

going to say, they're to have to be to be to be to be to be

to have a certain respect for that they'll pass in things. And

and to give permission. And then that's what happens then I'm my abuela my

defunta my defunta when you see, when you see, in the camera, I don't see

in dialecto and say in dialecto. If he comes, tell you say, or resen

and say if they're to start to the Nahual, Rese. Dese.

She was she was a little biterick that was there that's close to us, that never he cased, he never he cased no, he was, but he grew to the

children. So, he said that she was, she was he was, and that when he said that it was

that he was that he said, that's, that he was, so, then so, so that still still

and that the most is she, so, that's, that until the Fecha. It's a

story. And in the house of us, in the house of you, always pass, ah, ah, has to be the Chaneke. Ah, no, a de'er is the Nahuil. In the house. Yeah is a classic. Then when

when you get those people, so, like, if you're going to, you know, oh, we're going to, we're going to go to sleep. And they're saying, no, they're saying, no less nothing. But it's always, you know, to someone and

they say, you know, I don't do to dream or, I think that someone was there. Or the

famous that's you know that's you're that you're that's you're doing but that

you want to you can't you can't that someone to be that you're not you can't be able

you're paralyzed So, so they're so they're so they so it's that so I'm like

to the Fecha pass, for example, when if I'm much

stress of work, when I'm a lot of when I'm a lot of and I'm my son,

my old, I'm to do you do you know, that's a or do you let me in peace.

And I know, because I've done this is a mantra that's a

yeah. Yeah, it's something that I'm because I mean me me

I'm so. So when when I see something or the the

times that has passed before when my abuelo I could come to make more

that I need that someone we used to we were going and we said there's there's in the awal

yeah and he's and that my abel and I said the water the water in the

house never never never so always in the one of

there there was there there there a bottle of whatever of the

whatever of the bottle and it and it went to to the back

to the then then then then after then after then just Yeah, no

pass about more. Dice, my boy, with the water and the water and that

the water and that's the water and the water and I'm a lot of and he a lot of

you know, man, see that one of the stories that I want to have to

have been much with these encounters with things, I can say

about natural but so very speciales. A one a seydora that is

of a public here of a little very very rural of

a Me, I'm a little a senior yeah grand of 60 years,

in her moment had 10 and her and her had 8 years. She

me said that was in his house, I said that to get

to get to you're to come really really to a kilometer

and that in that then you then you can you for the

mountain so you to get and to and to look

you and there's a the Tienda, no? So,

they said, she said that they're doing to dinner, but that they were going to some things to

finish the dinner. And she, no, well, is that's that we're very long,

it was that's that you like, the 9, the 10 of the night,

and it's he's easy to to the house to do Jacinta.

This Do you Jinta was a 300 meters. So, not

so, not so we we're going to ask you to do your Jacinta van

they're coming with your lamper as a 100 meters they're in the

husband of the husband that was I don't know what I'm doing but

he said yeah it's time go to the house and

go here chucho chuch says is a a son

of a child of a woman that was a but

he said he said he started and started and I was just about the

people but they said no Don Jacinto and we're we know we're doing a chucho I see

that sometimes he's he's he's doing his things we're going to his

husband because we're there's well it's well it's well it's

they're they're they're they're they're and they they're and they're

and they're and begin to hear to there's there's there

much mountain and they they're going to move the yerba. And they're just

detain, it's her chucho, that us want to molestar. And they're going to, you're going to get to the house, and they're going to, how this to pressur to pass. The asks, and delante of

them, me counten that they're like a perro, sumament grand, great, the time of a baca. So, me described. But I was kind of extraio because

he's that the wessos they were very marked so it was a

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get to, and started to the senior that was in the animal was a corralar. So, it He started to And in a moment Another Sal,

the She said that she says that In the church in the church Catholic the domingos

where they're Where are the Palmitas Yes, the said the She said the She used to

put them To put them Or the Or the Ventana Or the Or the Ventana Oh, and we're

We're We're Oh, well It's a Classico And he He had Also, and

He had too So it the water-bendita. And he got her the palm, and he started to and he said, it's said, it's like that

she said, that animal in when you felt that was the woman, and he started to get to the water,

he went to immediately before the lady of the lady and of my mother, we've seen

all this, she abient to the mountain and he's going and the she said, we did a

reganisa and he said to my my mom my, my, my papa said,

we just a tund a good because we know it's not a word

that two women and they're a person that's a whole the people, all the

people all the people who had costed the life. So, because

we don't we not we don't not and he says thanks

to that I'm that I told of her because thank to

God no no passed to but my my

her in that in that then in that 10 It was. It was very traumatized

of that I don't he'll forget No, how it's like imagineate the sent you corralada

for a bestia of that but here but here but here bendita awa bendita

yeah the is that I think it's something that we're that we're always

always the water always the water and you and over all right you mentionas the

domingos you know your palmitas but get you a cubetta I remember that when we went we went to my abuel had a cubeta

I gave a cubita my brim gave a cubita all we had a cubita and there in the church they'd have in the escalas all the cabres

to get a assasasas to get one of the cubettes and I'd to be a and to make the oration for

that all the water should be bendita and then and then then let's all the palmas too

and to let's your cubetas of the water and to reenarles to re-enar the

boat in the house. But if the really, no see, the really is something I

think, until the fact, or at the church a little the church can't explain

us a little more. The grand significado that has the water because

it's like if you're not you're creient or not I'm personal

so I'm so I'm the fact the thing the thing I don't that has

but it does it It helps. Sure. To help, I don't see, the truth.

Yeah, and apart if you do complement you do a question, because I'm very think you, I'm

in the personal, we know, we're a family Catholic. I think, I always, I respect to

many things, I mean, I know much in God. I think in God, and I think in all the

people, and no important what religion are, but when they're in the same God,

I think that that is the most important. Obviously the the water

bendita has a significated into the church and at the most me me

me me I'm saying that I'm need to fallar that no me

to fall the and that has a question the the father that

my mother said that my well is the the water is the

water is the I'm I'm I'm talking this anecdote

that has to have to with the Chanekes. No, I like to

yeah, you know, those stories. I mean it's a thing I've committed,

I mean so really some anecdotes that I'm get a people, thanks to the people

that I'm to make a experience, right, and then to tell me the people that people

that I'm made their story because I've got to the top of stories.

No so I'm desperer, no desaliming. We're about a little to

go to go. Yeah, so I have more two million of

stories. Yes. And so we're going A little to Also, also the stories pass from a filter.

So, it's like we're really, we're really we're really, we're that's

that they can't with certain requisites. This story pass in a town

of Chiapas. My see- that in that's then that time, and that was

so much was in the 2012. No, well, she had 24 years and

was in her first embarazzo. he says that he decided to visit to the abelos to the house

in the history of the house of the house of no manches he said I said still the clad

with the house of they're going to pass things and and here and say

she said she she she she didn't she sentia presentions very

rare in that but that for a particular had had to

get to get to some the first day the first

night she she she had a trance in the pen's in the little

well, I don't know I did I don't know I'm in a moment that I'm I'm like

I'm like I'm still I'm know but I know but I found that it

was a very different to that she was a little was a little

she's like made for hands little and I had a

sometimes between two, three Camino's It's a lot of It's a It's a little So I'm in a No, I know

No, I don't know Well In the second Night happened That's what She was That's

She said That's There's There was There was There's Atele of Shehittas

Of those Cavesonas Yeah Yeah In the recamara Where she was

And they were like The One of The Manana And I'm

to Imagine the RID of And she's, shh, shh, shh, shh. So, she says, what is that? Dentro of his court, there was a fochito,

of those that are for the night. And she, I'll take to the front to see the and in the panel, in the panel, I saw, view the reflex of something that was

cutting her the pillow. So, in when she saw, so in front of her Voltae and see how this

thing he's going to and she says it's she's she's she's

she's she's she's she she's she's she's going to

go to the court to the little the and he and he starts

to get to the door me let's say the abram me

say the daughter what is so how is how it says abram

me for favor when you when you went that I went to The abuel

If he's He gets What I'm saying Well Ida What you have He said He said He said that

He never He never Had been I've seen Very extrano He had And I'm I'm starting

A mechon And In that I said I saw Like the Abuela And the

Abel And I Vicarer And I'm In this I'm I'm in the Techo

And he And he And he He says The Abel Only

He says the boy was at the cell, the co-cina the abel fumaburus agarro puro

agarro agarro agarro like a type of cinicero there was a messita in the court,

prende a puro he got a little he put and he he said let my

my niette in peace to his baby in peace to do this offrenda to

takea but let her in pass and go ahead we're we're going to,

take the offrenda and bette in that moment, we said, we'll get them to get them

to the camera, apal the luses and no manches. So, they were

a noise of people that was out of the room. It was talking

the things like the things and I was trembling

in my man I'm had brought my my

woman too my voice like very vaguely. They were in the

sanctified. So, they're saying and they're much fear. And they were like those

things like they're in an abitation there's, they're in a little bit of they're in a moment

he said, he was to hear to hear to hear he said the said the

and they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're

they've been they've they've they've they've what he left the caballito, the caballitos.

Oh, what you know. They were they took. Tomar on the offender. He said, Paco,

I had to be to get a other two nights more but I could say something. I mean,

I kept in the quarter of them, but yeah no me molestan. And that's happened in the 2012

and he said, I had my first embarazzo. But it was a encounter supermating not only because it

I did you but because I lived with my abelos, and they've demonstrated to have even even to have more fear than I, and more fear today when they said, for

favor, leave in peace to my nita and a his son, to his baby. It's that I think that they're talking with the children. Yes. And that's

true, eh, from the end barasso. It's much to be. I remember much of my my old old that's the

famous liston robo, that don't you need to fall. The tigeras. Debago of the almoa. The sal.

So, so are tantas. Are you just what you're doing that's

I, my I guess like this all the time the about the whole of the

time. It'scalof I'm sure because I'm I'm sorry. I'm imagine. No, manches

and see to see a my abuel trembling. I don't know. The abelos always they transmit

like that's like that but but but they're like in a point where they're

even at they're just uh, it's that here here there is that

the people don't know what they have I think that's that generation in generation.

I think when I'm going to I'm going to go to be I'm going to do I'm going to do it's a same that my

my abuelo me said to do you know? Yes. Your abuelos had like never

they've never said. Yeah, I said that my really, I've never to tell me

and say, tell her that she go, and I said, my well, I'm

she was a playable with them. See, I'm like some in a language?

Yes, but what she said, let's say, and bette. Deja, to be

to be to be talking but in dialects. And I said and she'd

about her but to God. Okay. He started to be to do you and say to

and then they say and then never never before to be before you to be

a father and a marriage and to dream and to do you and to always, always

before before let's go, no, you're all, you're doing to their kids. Quidden and more when they're

babies. Wow. Well, well, family, they're the recommendation. The fact is that the

story is that you know, anecdotes, not stories. I'm not stories. Anectotas. Anetututas.

Stuby, many, many thanks. Familia, if at this moment, you're going to

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