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Episode Date: June 19, 2023

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that will be very interesting. Ked up to the final, because I'm sure that Chema us will share many of the stories, so that he has been told as he has been to

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thanks to God. Well, my number is Pepe and also Chema. And, uh, well,

I'm very content for this. Me can find in YouTube like Pepe and Chema podcast, even in

Spotify, in TikTok, in Instagram. Uh, well, there's a order for all. Genialissimo.

Well, for the people, like, not the people to talk to what you're a podcast

because the net I've I've seen, some some of the and not you passes the lance,

so they're very chisd okay, so basically the podcast is centre in this part of,

I'm invited that's experts in certain matters, say, we're so what I try to do

is a combination between education and entertainment. So, they've came, us can't

a little of their work, but then we know to get to some

another way you impactan, yeah, or so because they're people people

vivas or with persons mortars. Not only is of the foreign, I've interviewed a taxiista that I did

a pact with a bruja people who people who people who work on manycomios and that

type of things. So I think they're people to some that make that they

have many many times. So, if you want to listen anecdotas and they can't

get to podcast there to listen to listen. Thank you. Thank you thank you

thank you thank you so much to make this podcast so back many stories

experiences but there's something that the people that's the thing that's the ambit paranormal

so it's like something that I know that much like a much when you know because I'm not so

not so you think you think you in this phenomenon yeah I'm I'm

I'm there's there's many people there's there on this kind of

things feas that's but in my case has been all the contrary

in my case has been has been has been more more to more

to be with God, let me have permitted in that if there's a world

out of this where there's where there there's a where there's something. I've been one in specific,

that's the only that I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to see, that that's what

I was I was around to a 10, 12 years, more or less or your house

in Chiapas in the house of my father's now, is front to a church

and I had my my friends who live in the church, you know, the church

and they're in the church in the church. So, I remember that I'm playing with him and in this

time, the chavo of the eight, and we'd go to have the chabob of the eight and

but in a point. I'm going to my house, and then I'm not a rarrow. So, so, so I'm

going to the church, and I always I'm very I'm scared, no, I'm sure. Of the

of the church. The church Christianas. So, no, there were certain things. Oh, No, there were santo,

and that type of things, but always, like, me'd have fear of there. And then then I was

out and so was the most extrano that I've seen, so, because it was really, the patio like the

church, that's the church, then there's, there's a little, and then there, a baritita,

like, a meter, 10, and I was out and, and, and, and,

she's, he's, a woman bigita, or, like, out, the,

of the, the, of the, the, the, the wall of the part of the

head of the head all black with a black, so like if was a person a comeless a vagabund

or let me went to a little to the eyes me event something me bented a and I

started because me ardued but I knew perfectly that not because I didn't immediately

to be immediately to be what on and so that's in the theory I don't find absolutely

nothing that is in theory the most paranormal that me has said that

no there's not there's no because it was like the bardita and not just

I mean that's like it's like it ascendio yeah ascended and it ascended and

it went to and then so from so that's so I'm sorry and traumated for a million but

well I think the fortune that no I'm not too maybe maybe has something

something more more more more more more more

but in in this moment you you've been, you you've got, you've got, what you've got, what you've, what you've got, what you've, what you're, what you're? No, no, no, I guess I'm

to see, or I was, if it was, if it was a person, but no I found nothing, and in the place, and I regressed to hurrying to the church, and they, and, uh, and, uh, yeah, never, you know, never, never, never. So, yeah, no, never, no, never. So, I've, well, I've, well, I've heard

various stories of people. Principally the people then say you know is that you see a

cat's a little bit and see what the reality is that for that I consider a event

paranormal is because I check many many variables of this of that if this is

possible that you yeah when you really no I don't get

then we get a some an explanation like in your case so

how to see a person that in the nada appear

so are some things that you say, is that this not is possible. I know. I know. I know the,

of the, well, of the invitators that I'm interested. I know. Some of the story that I am patored. Look, we're going to

start to start for the first let us. I try to to have, like you invite us that can,

to come to prove me then I'm really those stories because it's where I do, okay,

here we're we're talking of a phenomenon paranormal as as well. And, and into this me took

for example to be a a chapter of a paracicologist. A paracologist is in charge to study basically phenomena phenomena

for normales to decartals or say if they're phenomena. Aha, exactly. So, they're not a 92% of

the phenomena have an explanation, but there's an 8% that no, that no, that's a

explanation and that's considered a phenomenons, the parapsychology is considered a pseudociences, not a

science as a social, in some countries is considered as a science but, basically. not is the

my impacted but it's like to start a little I'm going to I'm talking about because he

asked what has been the phenomenon in theory that you have said this is totally out of the

common and result that there there in a town of Carranza Chippas of a

a girl that apparently was posseid so the parents the parents

the parents the people solicited help the but the church, no

kiss intervened, until that not it was really, that's it was a

position, because, because before, this part of the psychiatry that evaluable

the schizophrenia, no? Yeah, that's some way can be similar.

So, they're a team of Mexico to to evaluate all this, they're

for psychologists, and they're psychiatrace, psychologists, and people expert in this type of questions

of energy and all this type of things. The Camps Electromanetic.

Exactly. They've got cameras and all this type of things. So when they're going, they're going to start first

those studies psychiatricks and they're in theory no have any new disorder mental and is

where they're going to see what's saying. We're about another thing.

So there there's there's there's that this mindinging and she was a

manned basically what they're basically what they're so in those videos, So, she moved the savana, and when

was the sabauna, they were the zones where appeared in the mordiduards. The nina said that he was a perr. Okay? So, in this moment, yeah, of, much studios and many things,

really said, this is it is it's a procession. And then, you know, to do you, the father no, he chose to do this, and canalize all this

to the mandos more altos, for canalisar. And, effectively, yeah investigating and analyzing all result, the paracicologist

me comment about that the papa had made a so the so in the moment to make a fact that it's

not so that's what was what was the but effectively the nia had the possession of a demonio

very not the term of the the names of the demons but

did they did they're all this process and did the exorcism

the exorcism and and you they're in theory liberate to liberate to the three things that are much

the attention and that you me do you know what you know that also we're that's first the

first of the fact of the exorcism that's called Annelis Michel in the person in the which is

the exorcism of Emily Rose one of one of my movies that I've seen a much time is

that effectively yeah not can go to go to the first to be the thing that

is posis because it's what is the called negligence in quite to the person so, well

I mean I like much that you have these filters of that's if you're in a procession we're going to

do a process and not consume some type of substance and all this also something I've

commented much is because the assarotas they're in their majority to an exorcism

or so they're they're but not so is that the people I've talked

with much people and for example, in my city, I took presensial exorcisms,

where they get a person to get a parochia the most of the first time, I'm going, I'm going to

do this is in the fan of nothing, I'm only I'm talking what you see a person that

all actuant of form well, we're very aggressive and no is that I don't know that I can

receive. And the third is yeah the altos mandos to make the exorcism.

So, you know, what was what happened? If he's able to get exorcised at 100 because then there's

heard of cases that... Recaen. There's... There's... There's... There's... I don't

remember in what Cita is that says that if no he goes, that's the demonio's back and

regress with seven demonies more. Okay. So, it is still more to when it

was expulsed. No, you know, what you asked? The parapsicologist basically is that had

succeeded, but she me said, but she it's good, receive a monitorio

she's going going to but it's good, but it's yeah, and the

papa never never... Well, I don't see, that I'm imagine that's intense.

It's that I'm just that I'm just that person that's a person that's

he said that the people or the diablo as a so that you do you

do you do you want what you want to if you want if you if you want if you

want to do if you want to do it, but that's it's taken people that's that they're what they're

that they're that they're they're doing that's a very great. So, so I'm I'm a quote

much the phrase of tenos of decisions difficult, require a lot of but but you

don't manches to give to your family is something that's a that's a that's a net

that for me for me reprobate the 100 I'm yeah I don't I'm not

if you're my perrita no no well who believe the Super-richos,

too. No, man, some other story, man, that's got impacted so, I mean,

this is tremendous. There's there's a term, of exorcism, I, well, of possessions,

pardon, I did a a chapter with a child that had a family posseid,

and that they were but I know what I impacted in this were the conducts that

was the person. I mean, so, for example, I know that it's that can be

that can't There are many things that that's still not a problem. But this person could take

things irving. So, yeah, I was, I was, that's, like,

over the stuff, irving, and it was and he was and he was, and it was not,

and it was not, and it's a problem. I know, in this case, I said,

this person had certain things, a lot of that day, a day before, that would be,

I'm always, they'd be in the cajone, Traga in the cajone. Yeah, it's a carcone, yeah,

comes in the carrosse, yeah, and then this, I mean, those are things that are in the idea, like you know,

how they're, and I'm they're just a lot of some fin of stories. There also, I don't know

if there in the persons that, no see, you've seen that come to come, brasas,

brasas of fire, ah, car, no, I don't see. They, they're, they're just,

they're just got, they're just, they're just, they're just, You know, I'm sorry, but no man, Chichema. Possessions, is a thing that you call the attention, is a thing in the

you think, in which you're really? Well, look, the fact, the fact of the church of the church in front of my house was to listen regularly exorcism, and that type of things. Well, the Igresia Christiana, no? It was a Christiana passion and exorcism.

No, I see if, if it's valid, but, yeah, but if it was, it was horrible. And my mom was like, like, well, we're going to start the doors and the windows for that the demons not passen. No, and is

that one about a wordist, that's a man in a fourth of a brazo to say, Lord Pesa,

he said that when there some event that's a normal, he said a spirit chukrero or

Alma that if is that, for example, a, a distance of your house,

is possible that, the net, is possible that could get to that, okay,

because, because he was looking, because he was that are a little more more debiless spiritually, if you're

more devil you're like, no see, a preza more easy to possess. It's a thing in the

that you think you think you do a other form, I think you have the capacity to

see, what can have been to the people, like, like, as they're

more debiles spiritually and I don't know. One question of the community also for

you, as you think there's that is that there's something? Yes, totally. After to hear of much

stories, in particular, there's times that you can't tell a person that's specificly and that's specifically and that I'm talking,

me took to interview to people who say, that this person me know what's that person me that means for example that's made

very famous or very viral, of the doctora Blanca Patlanis. The doctor Blanca Patlanis for who is a person

that is aodontologist forensic. She's encarged to identify people who didn't get the identity

so that basically they're not they're in the what is what is what is

the service medical fernce where they get to the people who mourn for murder

violent or that they they're they're doing autopsies and this but there there are

certain caravres that no, no, they me talked a story about this and me

He said that a 15th of September a one a a job of the construction was to

get the pay to the people. The chist is that this person I don't see if

was intercepted concretely or for certain people that said that they had to

they were doing they're so this person in the day 15 to A CMEF and

in theory nobody yet to reclaim the she did the

she did the do the stuff, they're they're in all the type of things

and they're and then the day 18 more or less a

young and a woman that in this case was the and the

tia the of the man that so they did you

know in effect they're in effect they're there then then

then they they're they they're they're saying oh

let's fis that And then this was like the day 20 or one something like, they're in the day 20 and they say, oh, look, I'm going to see if I'm here my dad, because

he's a couple of days that no appears. When they were for the last time, it was for the last the day 18. He was out of the house,

we were going, the house of my father is at the front, I live at the front of my house of my father. So, so we'd go out and then we'd go to my

Papa and we we said that how he he was done he's done we know what so well let's see

well as and yeah I said he did I'm invited to the night and my

my papa me said and so all this this was this was just simply like

with expressions of the but the Tia also the Tia was a testigo of this and then

then then then the then the then you then the year the Chist is

that they they get with the doctor and then they start this and the doctorate and the doctorate is that coincide

with a case that I'm to corroborate and then so he's going to the person

there and say I think I'm these people that talk about about a person that has these characteristics

but the the body 15 they're saying that they're saying that they're saying then they're

they're saying oh yeah see see that all see that all right but resulta that the

person we have it's we don't Doctor, it's that we've seen in the day 18, right? Yeah,

so, so, yeah, I'm going to show to be to see a family, and you know

a photo and see, doctor, he's a family, and so, but, look,

the register are from the day 15. Then the doctor about that for her

there, there are some people or certain people who call them that recogens that recogent

that recoges so. So, so, so, so, so, seeate,

that's something to be much, much, much, much, families that that

they're that were they're not they've been so so it's something quite common there

see, fiat that's like a few months we've visited a foreignce of Tuxpec in Tuxpec

only only with the major experience so I'm able to contact but what curious is that I'm

talking about also talking about this person has been with various funeraries and says

I'm in my house you know you know you know there's you know there's

a person And a detail where we are is that there are many municipalities, I mean, no manches, and a lot of some of those

where you have to go in terracery and and so, and one that I remember much of the case that

you said, is that they had said that one I don't remember the name, they had

reported that they had reported that they had the characteristics, get in the place, they're in

a person and a person to topan a chapo a chapo and said ohie by here

they were up a report of a manned and the chas and he said it's a yeah

it's all right oh okay thanks so you they're they're the surprise is that

when they're in the the person was the man was he was he was

that I said that said the bats I don't I think in the

normal but that day not I go I'm other people

other other two three people all we've seen a person this person

us said this person but I mean we're not we're not we're how someone that's

that's in this plan can do you and I imagine that's stupado like you say you're like a doctor

I'm about specifically specifically of a chick that's but that the mom had had

the call the corpio had gone to CEMF but there was a telephone

of the phone of the this year, yeah when the chica was in Sempho, I mean, that the daughter was, I said, Moma, no I want to be preoccupies, yeah me encounter much better, I'm sure, I'm fine.

This, I'm sorry, but you're going to worry. No, I'm sorry, I'm. I'm sorry, I'm saying, you know, I'm saying, you know, I see, I think totally that there's life after the life, because she said,

so, yeah, yeah. Fifate that one one question that I had so much time was that these almas or

spiritus can use the technology to be to communicate and a invite also because

she had two telephones aggregated between one and other like you after the

death of a man who not she could speak he was he

had in the matrogat but he he was a phone to

another saying I and he said a telephone that said then

never he's to answer because she she's not that someone he said she's fullano

but she didn't that she was that person with that she was that person like that

she's a remording her days and he said he said yeah yeah

I'm I'm I'm gonna talk to talk to you I'm saying

well the really I'm in my in my busas and I'm

um and and then he said oh my my I'm you

the episode of a week die of the month fally. So, and they start in these times these times

of the mothern't. So, so it's situations that at least to me, because many

me, you think you think that there's that you know? In conclusion, I mean,

I personally I do you do you do you know, I know, I know, I know, I'm,

you know, because you, you can't you think you think you in this type of

phenomenon? So, that's, he's, he's, he's, he can comein and

they, very cabron, because how you could say? Well, the first that's

first people can, in some manner invade certain different devices,

mobile or technological. I think I think I think I'm a energy and that the

energy is, we going to go to a concept very when you when you

start with a person and you know you know you're just for this part

of the energy that is flowing and that are doing so

I think totally in that part and also there are certain soceses

for example in the movie of the conjuro about they're they're

they're they're listening but not they're in the gravora or not

a me took a case also also a person and not

the person while the person and it was talking while in other there's a

there's there's there like many very strange but I'm

so these these people can invading other another

body and posseer them because if there's cases for example in the case that person you're going to

recommend for that's the rana not see you know it's the Kordoba Veracruz oh it's

close where I'm okay the this is a person that's much time to investigate

phenomena panormals and he he was and he talked about two but I'm

going to talk about one who's very very very very very rapid back

a group of the young she found like in a pyjamada a question so

and the one of the one of the little she makes to say hello he said

to the other chick she's in front oh my my my mom no

I don't have much time no me did so time but I need

that you to you say this to your father and you do you do you do this

do you don't don't be but I'm I'm I'm to go

because I I'm a permission. And then you get as and the rana said something

that's a little is that the story not as to the whole the possession but who who gave permission?

Exactly. And so hejole you put to think to think like many, many things.

There you go. A family my had a bad fortune of that

his father was perdi the when was very very

little when he So, she had that was, in some lapse of his life,

I said, but when I was not the year, obviously, I was even I was going to like, I didn't know,

I think three, four years, five years or much. But in a time of the adolescence, he seemed

like that absence, no? Okay. So, she, one once me,

me, he said, he makes like, kind of to ask, like, to ask,

like, why she he was her father? She needs a figure

paternal what I'm she she's that she a day that's in her

house and that she gets a call a telephonic she she says

oh the she I'm the same the same the same the same words

that I can say concuerd with what she can't talk so I'm

so I'm don't have much time only only me didn't come

when when I said that there's there There's the coincidences Yeah, yeah.

He said, he did He said, he said he said things that he didn't know because they said, obviously to talk that this happened when you had five

years, this passed like the 18, 20 years and this person he said, what good, that you did this, that's good,

that you're so I'm really so I'm really to do you. Because no, no, no, me did a much time to,

I mean, the inkogi who? Supreme, God, universe, I don't know. Yeah,

it's a caron. You'll say to say to do a little bit of other side.

You're going in the Vajas astrales? Yes. The Vajas astrales for people

know are these don't know. Regularly when you're when you're when you know, and it's

when you exist, that's been that's there's been not we're not we're the famous

desoblam the famous desoblaming. So, so there There are different types of desoblamments. These are these

who are conscious and the inconscientes. The conscienties suede much and to see some of you have passed that you can see see, I thought and the people

and said, I thought that was a type of a desoblament but there's people that do you do something and can

do you can do do something. And in this case I did a chapter with a person of Colombia to a very

good friend and he and he me He told about about the about the about the

and I said I'm saying I'm going to talk to my father and with my tia

because they're so he he said he said he said he said I'm going to go to

go to the things you can't do you can go to you can't you can't

no idea of there's no limit of many people and he in this case he went to

the center of the universe and he said when came something that he

got a very impacted. There were figures geometrical simply. They were

like figures geometrical but he said that I'm a very strange

that was a very beautiful. That like if they were being a

peace incredible and he said that his father he said

that one once that they're not like they're not

now new responsibilities and new things for and

that are living like this process to then to then

to move to a another to be exactly, exactly, and to continue

going to go to a chapter that's a little from a little bit of Peru,

me and I'm about about about these levels in this second level

we're we're we're we're in, we're the third dimension, and it's where in

theory you have to move to learn to learn You know, as well, the bad, the mal, no exists. It's something like very relative. Yes.

And you have to go subient and subient and subient, until you get to be a being of a question. So, no, I don't know, concretely. But it's very interesting how it works all this. Me recorded much to the famous short-metrager, the web. No. I don't know if you ever, let me know. When a person felled, this was unlobado much to the reincarnation.

That you have to reencarned many times to able to get to have a to have a transcendence but something that's this is this of you can't move to the velocity of your your thoughts

I think they're in that because the time and so I don't know the time is relative I mean for us here for us the time you're taking to this time to take to

and you think that you're always 60 seconds is a minute but in other in other place 60 seconds is a year yeah exactly

So, partying that the time is relative and partying of that you you know you're in another plan, obviously the time is the same there. And there's a premise of that then they say that the people are not saying, no say, they're not saying and you're saying, oh, yeah,

you're just that you're 50 years, yeah, but where he's is the time, the time not is like here. So, for him, you can have passed with only a few hours, and for you,

50 years, and it's for that he still no know, he has been that he has died and for so, for so, at least, in that case. For America's climate goals,

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that's because I one of the time I did this one of and I don't see your friend you

know what you can't get to get to because I don't know because I don't know

when I said because I once this I said a much time I I did a tutorial of

YouTube that did do you did not so it did not do you don't get

completely in my body only I didn't get to the problem

of this is that in the that I was me'd all. Of course I'm in

the same quarter. You know he'd be that are some that's some

some don't know so that don't know or what, but are things that are not

good, obviously rob an energy me imagine. I'm discovered this world because in

some moment I was obsessed with I'm a person that I'm a person and I don't,

I don't know to tell a story about a alienigenes there rar that I'm but well

I don't see to see what you see. The chiste is that I was obsessed to

have seen lucid. The dreams lucid are these where you take a conscience of that you are you can't be able

and you can't do you want to do you want to and then you want to be so it. So, it result that I

sat, and I closed and I got the eyes and me kept dormido, but I was thinking still, I

was still I was hoping to get me dormied and I'm just to hear how all things to begin to

feelererer but horrible like a And a terremoto, so, feo, feo, feo, feo, and a sound like a sumbid very strange, and of a sudden, like,

I'm down and I know that's not. And then it's there where I, this, I'm, um, and, well, for the people that know, I'm always,

I'm always with my computer, and it's, all what I'm and I'm going to, and I go that's. And then, so it's that I was having was an initial

of an initial of a day astral. So, then I'm going to start in this world, and I'm going to try to do

to do things astrales. Regularly what, what was that in some point like I'm like I'm like my

alma's going to be disprendinging a little a little, like if we're dispegating

a stint of an stampita like that so you see that that's that's that's

that's just I just in a point like it was very very can't try to try it

and just never was I'm never and I'm just kind of things

but I It came to certain things to to see to see like in the time I'm in the

time I'm going to do you're going to do you're a lot of many, much forms and a silhouette of a

person but I don't me no me no, simply like I'm just that's great

to know that I'm not this part of it. So I'm no, no me spanto I just simply like

it's simply like it's like I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm like sort of a bit of a

bit of a beauty of the disconnocido. And then I've passed this type of things. Now,

I've got to two months here in the city of Mexico. If I'm took to wear form,

silhouettes, things, but I don't like, I've talked more,

but if I'm conscious of that I have taken to be a kind. Okay.

Dentro of what you experimented with the dreams lucidates, never you topas

with the famous pesadias lucidas, that is when you you feel that you

control of your suing because I have understood that to have done you need to practice. You have a

process. There's a practice. Exactly. Exercise of the exercise of respiration.

But yeah one that you is something that one one person in a in a

in vivo me was when they when they're when you don't know you can't you can't

do you actually one of one of them and she she was being

coming down in some in the people very very beautiful

but but that's first in his dreams it was to know and it's

a newbler and she never to be not a problem so so

it's so I'm to get the light the and the buildings and

just there are little and the light in the night of the night of

the moon and she she says I'm I'm so I'm so I'm

so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm doing and at the

final of a quadra be a one I'm me the slenderman

but not as well as like he only only a light, black,

but the the rostro not the he was a because it was a because it's okay

that's okay, that's I'm not I'm so you know I'm and it's

to start and he starts and it but this thing to be to be

a many a few past for other and I go

and I'm every again so it's a point where she you can't

start I'm was looking to start and to start and I

it. This is the called Pesadilla lucid. Never never did where you yeah

not you can't control. No, never. No, never. Yeah, never.

So, but, for example, me took to be the car of my car, and I was,

and then the caro of a car, but in a car, I'm disconnected, and I said,

ah, this is this is this no, this is this, no, I'm trying to suggestion

my very fast, my I mean, that's my worst I've done to suffer. The hypochondra

and the suggestion is the worst that me has passed but as like that would say, no,

not something that's a kind-canion like that. And is that one of the people, I mean,

I like to talk to with the people, and those who have experimented and they're

that's because it's that when it's when when you're when you're when you're because you're

your desires more, more more carnals. More carnales. Yes, Yeah, exactly. And the problem that when you start it's just, is that

I'm aggris, I know, I know, I'm I'm gonna, I know, I see, but there's a point where you know, here, the Juan Kameney and is when they experimented that. The problem, I think, of this is that, you know, I mean, you know, so, no, I don't, you know, so,

you're kind of, you know, so, but, yeah, every time that they used to end up, was trying to talk to with the same scene. So, it's like, yeah, Or let's do you do eventually I mean, like it's a top of that

you know it's a top of something that's very interesting and impactant that's a chapter that's a person

that's a person who's and the person recalls his dreams and then there's the part more interesting

and what more to me me admire for those who know for those who know I studied cinematography

yeah I'm I'm dedico I direct project apart that I do the podcast I'm to create

content for the cinema and that okay And, of he started

his dreams. And me say, checkate what so how was the

form in how the dream or the mind created scenes impactants.

He said that was in a, in a in a vitrina in a

front of a door. And there were many doors and many bitrinas

with many people. And he was going to hear a

voice. He said in when when the button the button green,

they're to press it for the door to open and can't be in the way of the

games of the clamar, a thing, and the way he said, he said, that he started to

and they said, and thencee the fochito, no, pardon, the end of the vix and the vitrina

was always to get to get to get to water, it was going to get to get to the vitrina and

look at how all all did all right, and they were, they were, but he no

could, he not could, And, of a sudden, he jogged and he'd start in another dream. And so he'd he was in these

he was going and he was soneying, and every time that opened a point, that would be a new thing, the dream

and continued another. So, a me surprise much how he plays the mind or how has the capacity to

create a scenario cinematographical so complex. And to me is what I do you know when I'm

I'm mad to this admiro of these dreams, and there's a particular that to make the attention and

that I I was also a little vincular. One of his ultimate dreams, before

to this quater me had to he had, he had had a planied a

a new year, before to get in that situation and they were to go to China

or a thing. Because he is very fan of Kung Fu Panda. Okay? This,

Nacho, Nach, he has, I think, I think, like, almost, so he

was about that in the Swaynoy, he'd he was to the area of the area

and he said, he said, he said he was he was transformed in the panda, that he was

going to like the little bit and he was and he was and then he'd end the

time he and all this type of things and it's a part where they go

and then the asafatas come to come to come to and now

now is the moment of that I was seeing how a little to

he was going to the the the the the and he was

going out of a show like a because he put on

the assafafas that they were prepared and all this stuff

and so so he was he was doing the transition he

he but me what I surprise is how the image

a image cinematographic if you want to be being he was

the moment to so that's a me what I'm, what I see me very curious and now the part more important in theory is that he says, you know, what?

The first thing I think when I went when I left is how many years I'm, how many years because I think I'm 80 years, no I can't look at the hands, no I can't do absolutely nothing.

My mom, my mom is alive? Yes. And then the quat says that was like I was so and

they're that's a little they're and they're and they're

they're he's I'm sure he's right we're going to see that he's

that's like that that's kind of and then then you well you know it

doesn't know how communicate I want to make me take a photo I'm

I'm because I can't talk because I could say absolutely nothing

I didn't I'm so you imagine that you know that

traumatism a a little, and so, Fickate that something you,

and I'm put a medit to meditate, to think it, when we do you know more more more than we

definitely. One exercise that I always, I recommend to do you do this, when you

do you're thinking in that's not if you have done. No, no, never.

A part of here, when you have a problem in something, specifically in a

where you have to do you something a problem technical, how to resolve

some exercise, doormance thinking in that and me tell them it's a something that I

discovered when I remember the book, how it's but the mind is so creative and so powerful

that if you doorms thinking in that one and other once in your time,

standing in that's being a conscience to get to the solution. Okay.

I don't see a person for example something something you're in a

application delivery of a a business local of my city but as a programmer

I'm a platform that does all this a base of an file of Excel. I went in some

moment a raton of Excel so I know the formulas but there things

very very complex when you when you get the things to when you let's

then all so that's all the formula of 100 there there there were

there sometimes I was just I was out of my and for more tutorials and for

more things and I said is that what I'm I'm going to I'm going to I'm I'm thinking in that

brother I'm and I'm and I'm in the I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm and selects the celtas all so all I was

I was I was what I I'm and for I'm I'm and I'm

I'm chat of a chat of WhatsApp that I'm tag take take to write

to I think it's It was a pure mama that that I dreamed or is net? Yeah. Yeah.

And after that I got to get a compo and we'll let's see it's true. No, well,

let's getry formula, barentist, click. There was there. I said, no,

that is something that me surprised. And a part of it every that I have a problem

that I need to I'm thinking in that way. If you do it do you do do it's

one or two, three nights in three nights maximum it will function recommend. I know

one of the I don't I remember if I'm a but I'm definitely when we're doing we're doing

we're much more creative our level of our conscience I know something that does more no say we're

we're more more receptive but something you also for the people that not we know we're doing

we're doing a new section in the podcast that's how we always me forget?

Relatons of the car where where person of the team, well,

to interview to people to talk their experiences, that, for sure, yeah is the first in the

first time. For those you know, Spotify, is there in the channel for that you can't be.

And it's curious because a kid that this person in my team, he says, that he

has the ability, like he said your know, to be the world of the dreams,

and that he has toped with people that's in the state of the coma. And he

And he has, and he has And he has said, that they're not They say, that they're getting, because they're much better where they're than, than the life that they've They're doing. So, he, in that relato, that's very interesting, well, it's, he says that the

people that are in a state, well, is to come. That they're, like, in that trance, but that no they're going to go. Because they're living a life much better. So, it's like the paraeus for them, and if they're they want to

keep there. So this person that is out of the dreams, and the people see to come to do this.

You considerate that that's really? Yes, totally. Totally. No, see if all

the people that are in coma have the capacity to get to get a plan astral.

I imagine that one or another is I have seen I've seen I've heard that people

that have been born to live. So, that were clinically five minutes or

one something that have tried because they've they didn't go to

where they were in they were in they were in they were in they're in feeling like, and they're

not feeling and not this. And so it's these these moments of stories that, you know, that are quite they're that's very common that's, that's

that's even though, you know, that's your time, to return to the earth. Yeah. Why do you think What's the past this? Look,

really, right you've just said something that me has a little bit and here the person

that's not me going to let's when we're when you when she when she when she

did the one hour her her heart his heart to let this was in the years

in the 1950 and something where it was a community the people not gave

the doctor in this time says that the guru or the chamand what he

did was to get to get botes of alcohol, to start the herbs, but because she

was that she was dead. So, something she she says that she's that she's up on the escalers,

was going, going, going, and up moving, going, and up moving, and after the final,

it's top- what, what, this is a bit strange, but, well,

I respect the, the anecdotes of my oldita, but she said that she said,

she said, he said, he said, he said was a, she said, she said, she said,

she said, she said, but that his Rostro not he was because there was much

light so, so like making the effort to see he knew that it

was a little a vegentated but that there sprenia much light that you lastimable

the and only he said back to come and she she's back to

and she she said that she's she's like a a mar says it's like where

there bellas grandisimas many flowers and there were other vellas and said chiquitas

and others that were kind of apagnosing and this ser he said that was

that was was able to be able to get to get to get to someone someone someone

that was and he said this is the that's the that's the one a bela

like a one a meter 50 and and not you don't you

talk you have you you need to he did like perrinche because he

he said I'm going to let me enter no and says it's that you're

you're not you need to even when you're when this bell you're you

you're you're then so then so so it and says that the

the tram that is so long and just when you

go to and just when you see how you go concordand

yeah despire of the and get to come to go and to take water

and to take away. Meanwhile the the brucho well he he had that he had revivied but

that experience to me I mean me mark a lot of because my my old

passed many times but that was one of the experiences that me me he made

thinking when really how is that I mean never me he was God that was San Pedro

someone me said that was a person said in a new or something that

something that was that was that were you what you I mean, is that

I when I platygo with persons I always value this part to say, well, me you're you're going to

but I've heard too also three, four times more and then then he has a

a coincidence and he makes to do something and it's repetitive. For example, when the

people die in the chirofano and revue rapidly for the RCP and all of they can

they can be how the doctors are battling to revivial and they they're and they're

from a point of What on? I mean, I see, I think that we've been in a world or that we've

learned to live in a world where we have to live with all these elements that around the

world of the suns, all this type of things, are things that are things that are things that

but all depends of the level of that we have in different realities but this

machita this person that person that had the capacity to create organos simply with

the fact to think about with the universe of a form interesting, in the

particular, I am a testimony of that the universe is a work with me. Really,

I'm what I'm in the I'm do you know. So, but why? Because I do you

do with faith, is that I am sure in me smear in being so much things, and then I

went to to the church and I'm going to go to the church, and no

because no they're in God, I'm but now I'm I'm I do

a duality between because there's the scientific and this type of of things. Also, also it's a time of and it's a

energy and it's and all that type of things. So, yeah, apart of that I think of that's a

form of God. If you're your man, miracles and miracles and things incredible me have succeeded. But that's

a form of how I know the thing I know I know, I know, I think in God and Jesus

also, but I think I'm a different. Yes, those, those, I'm just,

I'm trying, is that the person that's that manage a spirituality like the your.

I say that when they're in the church, they're in so they're like it's a difference

tremendous between religion and to get really a life spiritual like the kind of

that's like that's like that is the last supermo more personal you know the fact

to do make it to be to be to be to be to be to be

going to be able to fend dismand this is the other that

that is we're or they they're more no see, more like a practice human just a little

a little more a little bit more but in conclusion they're more more close to God standing in the religion that's not

strange I mean really really strange because it would be strange because the church at final is like a school where they're

they're teaching and you're they're gonna but all depend from the master that you're doing that's sentient

that devotion for the matter that they're teaching. So in my case, I started to get to

know, this is this can't be possible. I don't get to get to be in the

place. I'm sorry. I'm so I'm really. I'm don't go to go to

the church because I'm doing that I'm doing a question. There was

a time I'm going to go to two years to cause the hypocondria and then then I

started a a little more. I'm to learn to learn like many things and I'm

to understand the death and the at that the point that I came to resign me

that I would be to move and I'm and I'm sure because there's two types of hypocondriac that's the

hypochondriac that's the doctor I was the second that's the because because for

fear to you think you think it you know it's I don't support

more I was with a friend I said you know what's what I'm I think

I'm I'm going to do the other the other students and me did all the students

and result that it's But the theme of the mind is a a little a little

a little complex in my case. And is that like you do you say a bit of a lot of

and it's that there people who even say that's getting to get to compensate it

so that you know you know you know you know you know that's the valde

of water fria and automatically even you don't know you have your body

receive like the signal and you start to have sometimes not you

don't It's called somatized. And somatized, for example, in my case, I started to lose the I'm going to, you know, you need, you have to lose the memory. And then I began to forgetar many things, very easy.

And no, you know, I was, I was not, I was never. For example, the ganglios lymphatic, which are those that are in the cooce, they're to start. And then at the semester, me began to brotar,

I mean, that the, that the eyes have to put as amarious, man. And when I when I was to do this type of things I would have re-establish

and I'm a lot of the mind is a situation very complicated and with with medication unfortunately

you can't get back if you're doing a type of things don't have not even

the worst that can do you can't with the doctor Google so not I'm not I'm

not I'm not I'm until the I'm until the I'm still still I'm still

but I'm kind of I'm kind of validate and the better that can do you

do with us I mean manche Chema tremendous experiences Roder, oh yeah

for there you say before I'm like that what you're what you did you what you

know what I'm not I don't know I'm going to talk about but I go to tell you

let you like you I'm a person that you like to experimenter I'm I've made

auto-hynosis hypnosis of all to do to hackiard to some and to find

a new version a better my and I I started when I was doing the chapter

of the parapsychologist I started about parapsychologists and there a parapsychologist that said that all

us are like we're like transmit and receive signals some we're more more power and others but we're

like I'm saying I'm going to give an example very simple is I'm

I'm thinking in a person and the person me mark. Okay? It's because there's an interchamio of signals, but there are

people that have the capacity to have antennas more powerful. And are those antenas that are able to make that certain sets that are in other dimension can communicate. It's saying,

ah, I'm evident, I'm this, I'm the other, is for what. Exactly. Exactly. And so, and are things

that study the parapsychology. So, he was about to, he had a subrina, this sobrina, he began to

have experiences with alien That's that, of some way, they'd get them for the night and sequestrable their body, but sequestravaed their body of a form

different because not was physically, but it was like, maybe the part of the conscience and the other, and I see what, and realized some experiments and some of course.

As a type abduction? Yes, as a type abduction. Supposedly, I see, because I have an friend who talked experiences of this

type, and has chakrises and things, that she says, I know of what are, but I know that they were that I said that I put in

certain things. And then the chist is that he said he said we're saying

and then there's, there's, there's, there's, idiot and he's, and he's,

and he to make to make to give to any that's any sort of any type of

mantra? No, it was, it was like an authorization or a permission.

Okay. I'm to start to say, well, if I'm someone

who want to He wants to experiment with my body, without to do that simply for fines of

study, have the authorization to do it, has an authorization to get to get to

do it. If there's the possibility that I know those I want to know them. So,

so obviously I don't know, I said even with a little but I said with conviction of

that I really really I thought, because I think to me discover the world and

other worlds, for me is like a thing fascinating. And, well, that night I was like at the

four of the morning. Four of the morning? Yes. But here here comes the rarro and

what I had happened. In theory, no, it's nothing during the night, but in the

morning is when I say, what show, what happened? Amasco? This form my,

I mean, I mean, I'm a little, and had another back, but those

had with a pressure so, like if had been abrasated like, like if

me if I was abasance a me, I mean, so, so, so forth,

with a problem in the but you imagine you you know, you know, that I'm

that I'm because I'm in my life, who's, who's, I don't, you know,

I don't remember, absolutely nothing, but I, no, I, don't see, I'm,

I'm put this, I'm like, I'm like, so I'm so, so, without, so,

so, no. And then it's there where I did, well, I don't see, and I did I'm like

a little way, like two, three days like of the and those and so, but I

can't assure that I'm that's sure. What I'm sure is that I never had ever got up and for me

that was the most strange. So, in your moment I'm to start a little more of

a little bit to say, oh yeah, and you not you've tried to do you have some kind of

regression for because the people that in some moment or in some time think they're

abducised because are many things so for that really really is a lot of situations like with

other things because it could have been a dream could have been many things

but when when they're at what happened in those in those so days

that you're that's that's when they don't they're where they

didn't have you've thought in... Yes, just I would have

some regressions before to come to come to be in New York but

not the psycholica she's a psychologist and she did it's these regressions and so

we've talked of that I wanted to make a one, but for to understand for

certain things that I'm very much I'm sure that I'm there's also with a

colleague with a person Guadup Naranjo very good in regressions

I'm also I'm I'm simply for the actually to experimenter. I mean, I'm for the anecdote. For the anecdote. For the anecdote, to say what was what he's ever, because

he has talked to have, but the regressions of persons that are of other lives. Yes, yeah, sure, it's a cabron. That's just a cabroncissim. And he has talked, even with her own husband, he took, well, that he said that he was in other year with another person who was his husband. Imagineate. But no manchishima,

tremendous stories, tremendous anecdotas. Something with what you want to give to, brother? No, brother, well, much thanks for the

invitation. Really, this, I feel very, very very good. I'm sure

that's good. I'm done out of the no, absolutely. And I hope

much. And, and so, well, no, there's nothing more for me

to be to be to be able to a, not they're not quite so easy, simply question

and be it, and it's beautiful to have the mind about, because they're to say,

if this is a tonteria, this or not, but they're going to find things that they're

saying, wow, this is no has been an explanation and it's a very interesting. And so

they can find a world much more interesting and so that's tremendous. Tremendro, hermano,

do you do you can repeat your social? Ah, yeah, Ppe and Chama podcast in

YouTube, in Spotify, in Instagram, in TikTok, where they can't find any problem. Yeah,

that's Ramito. Muchism for accept the invitation. To all the people to get to the

final. Muchism thank a a strong Abrazo and we we'll be

in a new chapter and a bono after the next bye chow

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