EXTRA ANORMAL - Alta Magia | Intenté DESTRUIR a un V10l4d0r Ft Bruja Wicca Yul

Episode Date: November 22, 2024

En este impactante capítulo de Extra Anormal Podcast, nos acompaña Bruja Wicca Yul, quien comparte su experiencia con los trabajos más oscuros y controvertidos en la alta magia. Desde su perspectiva como practicante, relata cómo enfrentó un caso extremo donde intentó usar magia para enfrentarse a un agresor.Además, explora los límites éticos de la magia y cómo se manejan situaciones donde la justicia humana parece insuficiente. Un episodio que te hará cuestionar los extremos del poder y la venganza.#AltaMagia #Brujería #RelatosParanormalesParanormal, Historias de Terror, Historias Paranormal, Brujería, Relatos de Terror, Paco Arias, Extra Anormal Podcast, trabajos de alta magia,

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the 15 years and he has taken to live to live of all. Before

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since I started to let the caroff like the yeah with a consultor

and we let's say it in a manner professional at the 20 years.

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about this yeah we're we're we're we're we're a

we're a ballas product magical we we're yearvas,

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Okay. If you go to my consultorial, all is full of yerbass, because I

like, to be to make my gerbats, cocechers, put them to the luna,

to let us in the sun, recollectarlas in luna a yenna, cantarles, let's let's that's seeken

all a lunacian, or so a month. I'll recollecto. We'll make those costalitos of gervas and they're chisan. So I've got

a production of vajas for tina that are to romper burglaries, to harmonization, to levart

your energy of force vital, transmutar, for the time. But are twenty one

herbs for every energy I do a certain production in the month, we're going to

do I go 200 banos no, I'm my my garden

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it's a infusion the emfusion the evalator we're we're

in the house in family man manos and and

artisanan and artisanal but But, also when I am a

consult and I'm a patient in front. Right is too many, many

chisos, much information for all the other and they say, oh,

Yul, me said that if I'm going to give this and this, yes,

but no. Because you are you are so you are a repeatable. Your history is

unique. So, the canela has these properties. But if you are so you

are so you're a element and you put more element of fire it's

intensified and not you know so so so how is my form I know

I know I know see who I'm you know you're you're going to try

to work with another yearbita yeah that so so

we can generalize no it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't

it's like a recetario. No, no, no. The magic is something more profound. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. A me I'm just a lot of information. It's a padrissim, because when I started, it was, it was a lio, to find a good book, uh, pedia amistarote to Spain, you'd get them, after two months and all she's chos, no?

Yeah. It was complicated to find a good atame, that's a mucyllole-filo, you know? you, you had to do, I had to do much of my instruments. Right,

and there are there's all where you're, so it's good. What is not is top is that

all they want to get in the same box. Okay, when the magic not is so.

The magic is personal and the creation spiritual is so. It's personal.

So, so if we're going to do a course, no, I don't

do it to do do it 100 people because all they're in a way

different. No? It's like for there's that there are different in the

body. Because the organism is different. I think that's exactly exactly

exactly the way. I was that's a camera, I'm about a about your father?

Serate that we're going to talk about. Yes, I'm going to let me my

father for me, I think that every to be human, always will be able to

say things of your father. And things not very much. Because at

final we're not we're human. Yes. My and

for the magic me has made many many of them one of

of you is the great love that I have my father.

And I I I'm I'm in the magic to do

a professional because my father so when I had when I

had Wow. So, I am the major of five men. Imagineate,

no, my mom this time, classic family a senior that depended to the marid,

she'd my mom in the house, my papa to work to the provider,

all the provider, and my mom no said, this, he, salied

to the world, let's say to say to be to Histories in Mexico The first years

I remember that we made money and then he disappeared just when I had 17 years

my my mother had 7 and my mom was encounter imagine

a only with five children and I know I was and not

and also his form to be my mom is very different at the minute. Okay. So, I'm going to

work as as a secretary. And, and, well, I've been been very bended, in that time, the salary, I remember, I remember that was of 80 pesos. The day? Okay.

I was. I was a three times the minimum. Wow. No? And, and I was a squintla of 16 years. But even

so, well, I was not a despite that my brother, the other

the same to be in me too and my mother also so it's complicated.

So, so I'm so I to start in this always has been a herencia

and my abelita also. The mom is your father? The mom of my

mom. The mom of my mother. Ah, the other so, so I

didn't for me, no, it's for me And it's It's like It's like

It's like It's like That's In my life There were in those Pekines Caceros That's the

Weebo That's probably More than More More profound Because my Abolito Also

It's a Mache Very profound No Okay And I I'm To end

At my Carta At the 16 years So I Yeah I was To work

And I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm And I'm And I I'm

And I I'm At the Grad of that I gave my job to attend my lectures.

Wow. Always me has always a lot of the people. And I started to

work so incerra in relationar me always I've been to learn to look to look

to know so I think it was very complicated to get knowledge because

there was there was only was what you learned was the person that I wanted

to imagine that was more of taboo also, more occulted the information for the

thing of the religions that were more more in this time. Yes,

in that time well, I don't I think that I have maintained like

very out of many things of the world because me

I'm literally to learn I I'm I'm to learn at the

20 years and me do count at the 30

yeah with my brothers grand I'm with three kids

mom solterer because the pap of my kids also went

for chikles at socalo okay and then it was a story that I

know I said I said I'm I'm I'm also and I

go to go and then so you me you say in

what you put you no no no there time

there No, there time to sit at to analyze to, no?

Sentie the call, yes. Sentie the name of the diozo. At the

22 years, I ordered a second. Okay. So,

can know, with what he he's, Celtta. Magia Wica Celtta.

In this the community, we know, we'd come to his father of

the United. And I see my my life. I've my

kids. I'm very very bendecida. I've thought much in the future.

My kids are my mom solterra that's what I said no, well,

this is very incite. Today I have 10 lectures, tomorrow I have three

and the way I'm going to make a and I'm a carfettier

because I said no of here. And the vows me they're

they're solas. It was a business that I don't looked. The vellas me because

I was in the tarot, I had a cofeteria me did a group of friends tarotistas

in the passage esoteric I did I'd do courses of tarot and they say they're

they're going to do a class, a technique and I go, well, I'm

I'm inscribo with other amos us, we're doing the course and say

my me guys, oh, no, it's for me. Tend my material. Tend my material. And I go to a lot of paraffina, essence,

I go to your house, I'm going to make vows all the night. Oh, this, with this, and of love

and of harmony and that, what more, and so, I'm going to make my vels. I read the cards and it

was, oh, I, I'd give this veil. Why? Because I, and they,

and they're, and they're, and they're regaled at the beginning. Well, I'd

get to my patients, oh, yeah, the Vela me

I've done this and I'm and I'm let me let me let me make that

I'm so I'm so I'm wow at a year I yeah, I bought two

tonelads of parapina wow for so I said I didn't that I'm

that I'm okay so when when I when I did when I did

and start inventing I did make a line of 100 veledders different and to be trying

because I said I said I did this of harmony and it but it was more to make

that I was doing combinations and was perfection me imagine of the

bells thanks to the god I'm my tas okay of the

well for the for so for the so I lived of my

material My lecture My lecture of tarot Durro Like 12, 13 years With the same Prece

No, no there No, there Necessity That my Chabachau Okay, not

So, it was A source of Ingress Principal No, My rituals I do

With much With much With much Amor Never I've Cobraed So

I've Cropos, because it's your knowledge is your time And for all,

it needs material. Sure. No? And because also, who receive the benefits

of the ritual has the person. It has to do something. Okay. The magic always

you're going to pay something. And not we're talking of a cost merently

human, how we know? That are people who want to do they do it?

There are many ways to do it. They're they're they're they're

but because a way I have the the way

the idea the and the idea to say my economy

my balance economic not is of the magic it's of my

business and my business are the business is to do

is to do is to do bring wentos so

so so that so that that me Liberty of what?

To electing to who attend, of my patients, I have patients that have been with me more than 20 years.

Yeah, is a relation. Family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, imagineate that I'm families, family,

that I know, and I'm sorry, and right I'll say, I'm, I mean, yeah, is,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, I'm, okay, we You know that it's a very young

and it's a time in this way in the same time impending a business of

a business that I really, I'm really, I'm need to another,

but it's to enter in the way, there's a person that me said, when

you you're going to get into in the magic or in brujeria you're you're going

going to things very things things that the people maybe maybe not can't even

could get to be very crud, very, boy, that's the word.

And we gave to talk stories very that they have been with that

before that before the story, because if me said, there's there's a

story that needs to listen and that of stories embrujated because

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm making, mueques and all impacted,

because never had seen, a little a little a spoiler to an

story of Marr's so, of cruel. Of the really, it's a big,

damn, but I want to know how it was the chock emotional of your father,

because I want to let me say, I'm going to get to his papa, but his

father was Christian, and so he's a major, is a man, it, is a

bruce, how was that? Fouarte. I'm I'm going to start with the vels,

where was the house, the house, the house of all. I put

my consultory and a cafeteria my papa and he gets after 20 years

20-tantos years to have seen he he's he's he's another

family in Florida yeah and he gets to my house and then

he finds his and me he he's with my imagine

the soke for everyone who who who who

exactly yeah yeah I mean, I know I was, I know that he was Christian Okay And he didn't

see that I was Brouca Wow Yeah, well, he gets first like, he goes to

to the house of the oldita, no, of the mom and my mom and there my kids

and say, no, so so so so so that your kids live in one in a

place. He went to the place where you're where you know, because he

had already totally the contact with us us the shock psychological,

emotional of life with him was that a great love a lot for

many love combined with abandono with with and with and with

him and with him no he was the showke was

very very It's very strong, of much love. I'm the major, and between him and I always have a vinkul very strong, no, very beautiful, very spiritual.

No? And we present to my kids, the classic see to my brothers, but be my house and pure books of

brewery, and that's a cova, and an altar all rare, and and be for a that's the fabrication

of vealas no no he said my papa very respectful so pass on the

days that was in Mexico there had much things there had much

he didn't how he had and shalala and I I remember a night

that my papa my papa he I'm I'm that's doing a

coffee in the madrogada and I did my papa Paro,

Bajo and I say, I'm, say, reclamame, tell me what you want

I'm, I'm, well, because if you don't you would have been, I would have

been the woman that I'm right. I've learned, I've learned to be

a hard, I to sustain me economically economically, spiritually,

morally, morally, because you don't you're and my was like

me And he said, no, maybe I'd be prepared for a, for a, for a pleito, almost, I, no.

I'm, and you love always, and what you have done, you know, but you know, but,

so I not was very rar. Sure. So, I'd be a , I,

this, but no. I mean a sentiment of a good, and also, and,

and, in a certain moment, I, I, so I'm I felt prejudiced

to me. Okay. Because he saw he had books that

not he didn't for the ideology that he had had formed.

So his way to get to me was to

give a person. Okay. Hermoso, for certain. And

me said, and he, he has a very good,

and I said, Pop, my look, creas in what you and create

in what I I think. I want that our relation and this is here. For me for one,

because my relation with you started from that's from that you had been your decision.

But my love, here, and I don't have changed. Although you have my

prejuice if you do you say is malo, you know you know

What is what I do you? You invite to that you know us. And then we made like the pacto of that I would tell

what I did I with my patients. Okay. And that he not me to

prejudicer. No? Because the first platicas and it was like to be,

no? That's not? Yeah. No, what you do you do is in the

Bible She said that no. God blesses the burglary. Uh-huh. And I'm going to do or so, I mean, I say, Papa.

No. And I was, I was, I was, for example, some words of, um,

that's, that's the multiple and he said, no, no, no, me say, because then

he felt like that's all that's allia my part yeah, and he not could accept her,

and then he was a shock that duro years. Wow. In some In some moment

There's There was a Confrontation So yeah Yeah, not of love Yeah, you're going

to be in the Inferno for this So, yeah It was Yeah, yeah,

and I caused much a lot because I had my consultory very very great

Tienda Classes my consulta We're We're We're We're

We're We're We're We're And my My papa me said,

well, is that is that is a company of your things. No?

And I, well, I'm and I'm saying, oh, I'm want to

talk about my my father, yeah, in Florida was a person

very very exitos and he did no, so I had much solvency.

We're to talk. Yes. You know you you're you're in this

for my because because I'm because I went and you you don't

have another out out of you have to do this like

if we're talking about to something about you did? Uh-huh yeah

you did you have to do you for my cause for my cause

uh so for me that for me that point was of much ego sure

so and and oho I so I so I do you do

all the culp to all the is more ego than other

other thing no we're we're we're we're directors

of the life of the people even not and not it's

so we're we're our own our experiences and so

my father and my father doesn't you know you

get your and he put a and you put the I'm so

I'm so This, well, no, because I have a restaurant, I've cafeteries, I've got my tinderies, I've got my material of, veleders. No is for there.

There's a passion for what you do, an amor. A more. And then then I said, no, I mean, I'm in this, because I want. Yeah. Nobody me or I'm

obliged, nobody, nobody nothing. No. It's accepto, I know, I'm I'm I've

had been my moments feos and of reclamation including of other

people because I dedicate to this, the papa and my and I don't you

don't give to give a that you know that you know

because it is being is being so so you know. Yeah

us we got you it was it was it was it

was a true it was and him and more for me

because in that moment I felt like I'm okay and I said I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm and I'm no he no he doesn't

no no no he goes no regress because I want to care to

change to change me in my essence so if you you say you say you say

you say you're like you want to I'm I don't know what I am. I'm doing a cladito of pollo.

I'm saying brujeria because it's my naturalness. Yes. And no it's so imagine

me what was that the the beings that you're the one of the one of the one of the person that's

I'm not that I'm to show no? I imagine that there there were words

fervous there were words no-se irientes No, no, irientes, no, because my Papa, I think if if I did someone, I'll take it the

amorousa. Okay. No? Also, he's very amoroso of, of his religion also, and his religion, what he'll teach him as Amar. Yeah, no?

Yeah, so, at the final to tell you, that's Amar. No, no, he would have believed that I were, but I think that, at a matter in a moment, well, it was,

it was a batch that many fathers caemes, no? I want that my children are what I want to

they're not I'm for what are so. So, so it was a long of my

life has been many experiences that also I always I've said

they're like they're because in this moment when my my

papa we start we start we started to have to have the moments

of the moments of sacerdocio of my office. Because, for one

was my father, saying me that this was not bad, and that he would

have liked other other other other other side, I'm I'm going

to get to let because because obvious, no, the part really

obscure of when you're when you attend to patients that

live in things that in the reality are very And one, as

a human you doblas? I've had been patients that have lived things

very very and that if I have said God, help me because

I don't know, I know, I know, and for more that as a human

you have the knowledge, the magic, the and the experience

always, we're I'm at least I'm in doubt. Right. Until

where if I do support, to get the skin for my patients?

Because we don't we do, I do a little a limpe Yeah not the

monot monetary, yeah it's no, or so there, there are there

have attended and that the money has been nothing to be that

we can tell one of those experiences because yeah we

want to enter in terrain, I'm taking the torment that

right? I'll I'm going to say that the history is a lot of and that

this story was made almost time that I had a time with respect to my

father. Okay. So, it was, it was the moment in that I said,

I'm going to I'm going to not because me minimise but because the maldad. The

really the obscurity not is like many many mongos

bruchas this they're they're it's much more more profound

and when when really you put the skin to sanar to

bring to you think the other you do you do you

do you can't you you There's a war. Sure. And that

war will be always. So, I've had been four points in my

life in those I've said, thank I, I'm I'm

to do my and I don't, because, because a a lot of

the problems are very very very for example this. My

papa and my papa and emotionally me move much

the piece o'clock. When you're a exerrottisa I'm

very disciplined that's me they're to be to be meditation to

do that your food I'm I've dormied at the same

hour for more of 20 years no I

don no, I try to to be my body so much that's I'm my point

my point to say that's that's I'm like the but I'm limit it

is that even with I can say that I'm saying that I'm a pardon me but is that

I have to have to say okay well why I'm this discipline because if you

do you you're you fortaleces spiritually um to me a me it's a

terrible incongruency that you you're going to do the mind, the spirit for someone

or contaminated that's contaminated that no has been that's a temple like one not

also it's like you're going to go to get a maratone when when you

don't you're or recently operated imagineate no no no

you don't to You know? Well, I've always I've

very much in that aspect. Emotionally everything, all what was going with my

father me moved and I'm going to take much coffee. For the anxiety?

I'm I'm okay. And I start me, we're going, we're going

on escalation in escalation without to start sad, and

Confundita, I'm to consume much coffee, I'm with my inertia

to attend patients like without, like if nothing would be going to

me bad because my patients are not the 100 and the and it

was good I'm attending and a patient my a man

a much time me said oh yeah you never you I'm

to present a a friend a chef but he has a problem

very strong that since he's made a tattooage in the back he's a very rare

I'm like a rarer explain me like those we're going to ask 50,000

questions no doorme he has no, he has that the tattooage

he's he's he has changed in his form of okay

and me and he says well well is that he has a transdron and a

transorne is bipolar ah, okay is that you know, it's that you know that's

no, it's that he's he's he said and he could pass your contact

to I'm always me for the intuition and of and to and for

me for me for no but but I never I never

I get with the first that I get I'm going to ask more questions Yes,

I'll give my data I'm always that I'm say I'm the person that

they're going to tell okay me he says hey you know Patty

this me are going things that never me have been passed

me I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm at three

the morning I do anxiety eno of the

nothing. I mean in the mirror in the space and not I'm but

after the he's the tattoo in the back. And I said, I'm,

I never mention no, and never I asked about the first

what I don't the mind is in many games. Yes,

see, see, I'm a lecture. I'm to learn and I began,

and I my intuition to say awas. And I start to read and

I'm like I'm like to my experience me say when my

body is that my spirit is that my spirit is saying and I'm not

a lecture normal to a certain point to a part of when

you started when you started I went to I went to Europe

I love the Fiesta I'm a first of a person

very introvertido but at the five minutes very introvertido but

all I could I could I know like I wanted I was

I not I don't see what what what did but

also I'm I'm I'm this tattooing has a

tattooage has when because it's a man millionary. Okay. This,

when I went to go to the India and I mean, and this and this, I'm tattooed from here

is all. Okay. And this here's here and here. So, not it was the first

tattooage? No. Yeah, I mean, let me let me the back the back the

back. It was a demon. With the salas and with garras. And I

know and I see the tattooage like if if it's over-saling How did you this tattooage? No,

well, so, little, like two years. Ah, okay. And how you went about

when you did? Emotionally. No, to do that. I went to Europe, of

actually, me do one of the first tattoo of France. Okay. Jalal,

we'd do this I'm never, because yeah I was I'm

infestated I'm and all because it was all the back all the and it

was very very elaborated all you do you did it in a session yeah

so normally are in many sessions various yeah and not you dole no

no nothing nothing I I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm and how where, no, well, there were

like an altar and this, and the other and, well, very gothic, but

so are the studios. Okay. And what what happened after the tattooage? No,

we're the tattooing the tattooer was a and we did we did we went.

Regress to Mexico, he has a business very great. Yeah. Me

started to go very very How, very mal? Yes, everyone I'm going to start a plate.

How, yes, of why stacionated your car there, and I know what's the way,

and I'm going to go to the end up and I'm on a restaurant and me

be in a feo. The lady, that's to get something,

I'm going to get to the super, pleats with my soces with my novia, pleites

with the family, and you how you feel you're well, if you're playing with all

the world, to me the only that I'm really that is that I'm not able to do not,

it's the only for what I'm doing and because me do you do this and my and my

medical says that no it's for there. That chemically I'm here then so do you say

this is more more profound let's we're going to do you and you

spiritual when you when you when you If you're just in the madrugada you're going to do this

meditation and you will start to start to make these orations okay

and you yeah is the initial many many people think that with

a and a and water yeah it's all it's all it's all yeah

I'm or you don't you're to be all ohla yeah

no I'm I'm I'm yeah so good it How easy would

be the magic if it were like. What's it? Yeah. And then he

begins to an escalada of to belearse with all to start all and to all

he begins to destroy in the life. The first point was and I

started and I started to get to be I'm talking to Pati me

feel like Pati's passing this, Pati is the other and we we're we're

we're we and we say And you know what, my brother with his

wife and his and my siblings. I can mal I don't support.

I don't the kids of the little and then tell you don't but

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to learn more. The first part, her brother, his brother, his co-na, other people, we're going to the supper to prepare the dinner, Shal-la-la. Cargo

to the kids. To who says? To him He says his brother to

him, he's I'm okay. And the kids in the alberte.

Yes, they're they're they're to say he to Pets, me met

the chef, me to cook, I'm he's all the they're they're

they're they're when they when they they're when they they're a

sobri no my small small was No, it's The

Herman, you imagine you know, and more after the conversation and you know, carnal,

then the, those the kids, no, I don't know, I said, I said, I was said,

before before you yeah, so the cuneada, he's, he's, I'm just

to ask, the man, he wanted, yeah, to, I'm sure, and,

and I'm And he's legal and his and his brother he's he

he's imprudential sure when he he looks yeah with other profundity

we're to say I'm I'm sorry I'm I'm I'm afraid I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm because I know legally me I'm

I'm going to but my family has been how it's this

on this and I'm and I'm and I'm and I'm and I'm and I'm I'm

mordid rascuos in the back. And I saw that I'm more rarro.

Physically was a extrano? Yeah it changed like it's between

red and blue and the tinta and after after after

after after and I feel a vibra very pesada and

ohho I in this moment I was passing for the of my

father Yeah And for me I'm in a time of a time of

much doubts of it's it's to make in these lios

because my my papa me said is that your kids right

no and they're they're they're a mother an

entire congruent not met in these lot so

resonable his words in your head. Yes. And then what you

inculke of a little, and I like, and I what I do?

I'm in these wars. Sure. No? When I'm so I'm

did and this quater no did he did. No, no, no

he did. No, no, no he did. And then he was a gal and

what was my way to think in that moment, he not

does for Nothing. And the basic. It's just it's in a zone like of comfort when this

is taking more more force. So, I would say the word incognomodial magical but miracle.

So, that the things be resolved for six solas. But also

there's a very very can't of this time that I'm going to mention right.

Much of my patients oh, I don't know I don't know I'm a

year without without a job. Uh-huh if we're going to do a ritual and you're

going to know, okay. What are you? No, put in all the bells here's

there. And it's your bronca that I know. Yeah, the majority is that's that

I go to my house or so that's like like the like the lotteria without a

bolet a tonteria but the but the majority is that they're they're

they're they're they're they're and then I'm I started When I said,

I said, this yeah not we're not we're doing the mother, or the suer

or the chamek that he did the marries. No, are things very

great. We're talking of the lives. Yes. And my major surprise is

that I am I start from my altar and I'm and I know, I need to

talk and I think I know, I'm prepared spiritually and

mentally in a process. Sure. You're they're accusing of something very

great. Yeah. That, also, was a family and you know, how

is you're to be the person? Mal. Destroyed, of the less, no?

He got like, oh, hello, and this, oh, that don't have been

revisquito. He was well. Yeah. And, no. And me I'm going to say, I just want to

do not just I'm okay. Okay. You know, you know, you know, you have

retomar. Tend banos of yerbaes. I'm going to work from here. Oh-ho.

I'm still I don't have paid any money. And we we're talking that's a

number millionario. Yeah. The cost of my lectures and the banes

and the So you, yeah you did That's just that? No. Yeah, you did this? No. And one day me says, oh yeah, Patty. He, where he lives, is not a lot of

much of money. And says, a change, a senior adult major. What has to? To come. I'm to chant the rock. The music, all what He said,

his perro labrador lading all the day and say, the sir, gritty me gritty me, and I'm,

and I'm in a process final, and me you're saying to the becina. Yeah.

What I? What? What? That's, that? That's not I'm going to

do you. No? He said, you know, I'm to do you, don't you do you

do this is much more important. This is taking force. And I was, oh, yeah, it's all right, and I was, and I patted the

door, and that she retired and jubiloh, and she came here to be here to be here to be, pass. And I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, sentia that something was the intuition, no? It's that, that, again, we're very marked, the women since we're

because we're from that's this shaman has to get more to get

to get let's let's and I'm and I'm and I'm think that I'm very

so I know I problem, no problem with my vivencia with my

papa and he begins to get my part spiritual my

communication with my creator and my creator for me

God and are in a son one and they and he he's

to say he to work to your part spiritual so

me a way a zero communication and me

a talk a super panique with cellul what

do do no me I'm so what I

did I did I did you do what is that

is that me Sult. I'm that's that's that's

that's the story. The woman that had played with him all the

days he put in his music and even I felt that I did that to do

to to I'm about the bird to get

to the does the she goes and he

and he starts you know you do to

get to let me descans to let's he He's out of him.

He's going to say of the words and he he did you and he he

he got to the hand. The signora. Uh-huh. And he started

a infartte. If starts to put in the she starts to get

and disvanese and never he never he he's he

and they're in the senior. They're there are much people

of service ambulance, all. The woman didn't do not

for her never he never he was so like he he's he's

he he he entered in rigor no they were not they were to

and the signara and the when he he was because he went to me and he no

me swelta and I don't understand it was the she was not the woman She went in the ambulance with her. He was in her own hours with the

body, you know, doing all the evaluation. And as well, he detained the antecedent. The antecedent. So, he put the thing super complicated. also that

there is he he lived terror and me and then after

he said after he fractured the hand to the person for

he he mm mm mm mm um um

um um uh and he he went to my

consultory me I'm I'm I'm what what those

eyes, I never I'm going to get to my mind. I feel

still his man I'm not. I don't know, and I

want that this still escalando. It was the demon of the

death and destruction. Okay. Never knew how they did you did you

didn't know. In that moment when he he's to me,

is that's that I'm, and it was when I entered

in a work spiritual to decide. What did? If did,

if or continued. I decided continue but also

took some decisions. Yeah. I said, I said, you

you're going to get to cost so, is that me

he said, the amstead not it's okay what I decided

I don't do I'm not for you yeah is that is that

is that he was to get the fire for someone who

never he never he that he no had the

most empathy for any human no he for

he was only only And what What's the type of of

of serres that they're that they're that get to their and they're why they're so they're

so they open the door? Because you those you're because you those

you're like those you're with those ways of being multimillionary his response

very intelligent is no he he was not he was

like he he was he said he and said you you have you

have so so so so many many in my

office no in my office we're because you know because

you do this but when when you experiences of this type

and it's correct that I leave the life because every time for example

right I'm thank you thank the time of the people that

we're to hear or that not you don't you don't you

don't you don't so how how is how can't

every is digned a salary I always I've mentioned that part

desgracially there's the part negative for example persons like you know your work,

know your person and about the sered with they're very transparent and are and unfortunately

much people get to this for to do other type of things

because if there people that I have I had I with a man

there There are people who do work very very very very very

very very very and they're in the but simply

not they do they because it's like he put the

example of a medical a medical and to open

the brain or the person or the person and a work

so that's so he's but not he doesn't because

you know that maybe if something it's your is your fault is your fault

so the person a better life and it's your fault but it's your but you know it's your

but you know what you know you know you know I don't I don't I never think

that we don't know I always I always we've said that we have always we all

we have magic yeah all both in us we're we're we're

we all we it's it's like it's like it's you you're discipliners

and you do you do you know if not you'll you're there's in a

middle but we're we're the same faculties it's discipline

is a study like in all and I always for example do

courses of tarot yeah I have I'm I'm so

I'm and I'm so I'm so I'm so I I, as I

I began to learn much chavita I'm to mature very very very

of intellectual and of the way because I grew very so I and then

then I saw I'm I'm three years reading a

magistrate that me triplica to the age so

I had I had I and I'm very analytical and I'm

put to be to be to be all, I'm I'm going to what I'm who I'm and I'm

I'm I'm and I'm and I'm a problem of perdidaz and then because I

started my work with the most statists and said why they're why

they're they're they're they're because because I knew

to try those I started to talk and I know to learn

and I'm and I know my patient was to receive

it with a impachado that they feel and

never never never agred agred those or I

am more that that's other that there there

there there there because I know this I

am not not certain. Yes. No? We're equalitos

all. If you're you're and you discipline, you're going to do your

work impeccable. Yes. But that's there. And then my lecture is like

very complex because I even I say to my students, no? I know the tarot,

I leo know persons. Yes. The tarot is a medium. Sure. No?

If you put the water to fire or no you don't put nothing it's

the intuition that's that's that's that's that's a lot of an

a lot of a lot of yeah not is the cards yeah no is the element yeah

is the ability of the person that for a year that he's

to be to be to do so certain practices not

to have that that that that's a don't, but created. I mean, it's that comes

of the lineage of bruchos and that that's, there's a part that I like to ask to ask to the people

that I've interviewed, and is that I'm going to the people is mal. There's people that's

very bad. I always I've said when I know, when I know about the demonios,

histories. Yes, but the bad bad is of the man. It's human. It's

human. The maldd is human. What is the more that someone for maldard he has

given? No see if I've done but that someone get it and look for

something. Look, I've got this concept. The vision of maldad is very

subjective. Sure. The beings not are good, good, no,

nobody. Nobody. Nobody is malo, malo. Yeah. What for

you is the worst that could be a person for me is to

go to be of the camp no yeah for me

the most that they're and that they they

they they're saying because so so are the so

are abortes okay to me dole much when

when someone get to get to a abort. What

they say I want that a person not has a

I mean. I don't want to ask or help me or do do you

or do do you because for me the life is the most precious

that is divine the God God God God

in God God and the contraparte no that

the mald the obscurity exists, yes, it's, it's in every one

of us. And at the most I can do something that for someone is super aberrante and you

do for me it's, no? In my point, the the worst that could

have, is a, that to have a life. Because also, we're going

to say, we're so, if you get to someone and an adult

me Do you do, do you, do this, over other adult, you know, that adult, God, the naturalness, the reaction

of his life, no? He's going to defend. But, but someone that's not can

defend? Exactly. For me, it's the more. And, and I'm, I'm,

abog for the Bible. No? Because in my lecture, in my consults, You know,

you know what's people get with doubt? I'm I'm inamore of a shalala

and I'm that's I'm so I'm do you do you do the baby shaw I'm

put a tege I go the chambritas you I'm I'm my hand I'm

I'm a that's I can't but I do you know but not to not to

not a baby no and I've seen things very

very terrible, that I do really is that you need to a piece very different

to imagine to do that in the things of about us. We're talking about us that the

brugheria get to sinestra. Terrorific. A sometimes me question,

no, the of the movies of the film, well, I

see there are there people are people, no? That the

natural human gets to degraders to a form that you are not

human but that's another thing because because because the

society is rota and my preoccupation and the of the more you know

I'm that I'm about I'm I'm thank conversations like

conversations like this type is for that because me preoccupate

much the new generations That no have that ethical

moral that that that's that I'm you know they're

in what they're in what they're because when you don't you

don't you don't you know you don't you and it's

very easy dishuman you exactly so so so

then there is where all all all the magic

is so bea, constructive harmonious, amorousa, but also it's the other polo,

eh? And, you know, and I don't want to talk of bruchos and chiseros

and chasers of other planet or chaman is wow, because it's very complicated. No?

It's more, I don't me met in rios in any even of other lives.

Because first, first resolve this. First I'm with the

basic. First resolve this. C, amable, digno no,

congruent your life with what you're yeah. Yeah, when you're

first, then you go back now, now you you're going to be back or

but resolve right. And is that that's that I'm again,

I'm going to get the goal but is that's story that that's story that's

that's that's of Brugheria Sinistra? Yes. It's brugier Sinist, it's a vulgaria,

I know what's the name, what adjective put. Because it's something that the people

not know is this space where actua the real natural of the man to

cause a effect on him. And as that history there are various

where if it's me has to the heart. We can't One?

I mean, one? There's one. One that also I'm really,

because I had I to be mom. Okay. My my

my I was this was recently I was I was

I Resulted very good and put your consultorio and no

he'd go to work to work here me came to my

house and we start we're we're we and at the

live in some family yeah I had had

a woman with a she had pass and

the little the little me said a limon. Adieu,

the lemon. I've never I've never, I've been, I've always been to give you to give us. Uh-huh. I've got to be, I'm never, I've been

to be like, to be a lot of people. We're justeric. And, of a sudden, the mama, I'm going to

get a port, pattear. Ah, y'em, you know, y'em, violer my four years at the maximum. At the

side. We're going to we're getting. If you're not me, pardon. No, I don't know. Entro and

the in the in the camera, this, very lastima. It's very,

very also I was in depression postparto not they don't know

of the mom and the a baby and they're in the ambulance I go

with with them I go with with them me go to the

ambulance we we're we're and says they they

they're they they're they're to attender to the nina. Uh-huh. And they put

a lot medicament was very small, very lastimated. I was in shock.

No I'd no grittable, no nothing. And they start to

get the at the lap, they're they're and they and they start

to pression her. What? What? What? What? Where they were?

And they And he was the Papa A man addict, alcohol, drugs

I had I've seen but never I've had related that was

he was he was and I know and I know they're they're

going to get to they're they're and then hours after then I

back to my consultory for me fortissimo I said I don't to

cry to have to my daughter to yeah I was the first

that was the that I that's I'm because what that is when

one one put in a much things because you say

the karma a a a a what what

has what lineage All what one Studia holistic Nothing justifies No No, no

Because, because, I don't I think A God Permita this Uh huh And I'm

And I'm And I'm And I'm My first Impulso I can Because I'm

And I'm So I'm This to my Alumnon So this is I've been New Because

I've told Much because I've said it's going to go and

a moment no you're not you're not you're going to you're

a vela the incinso the flower you you're

to don't you don't you don't because you know

I'm I'm I'm I'm so I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm in faith, no, enoched, that I said, I'm going to do. And, and I went to,

in the, yeah, sent me the, no? The most future. Yeah, and I'm going to

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Yes, I'm going to do what I could do, of the side malice. maligno. Saque my poor sombra no? Saqued my

my life after that my nojo and there there to learn

to understand to understand your no and how you reflect in the

life because what you is very certain the the people

the human the Homes for my history So so I

see that a man did that a woman did that and

and with all my noho with all my force what I do

what what the the time the type was he was in front

of like a ventan a front cross and

and I and I presuming how he actually. So,

they're so they they went to the part to part incongruent his

family she reunio the mom and the and the and

they were and paid for and they didn't be the mom

was to reclam that because we had we

had declared in his contra of his baby

I I I know that there was a

lanking for her nita. Oh, no, what impotency that

the un, no. The coonial to he pego to the mom

of the little. Because he was legal. It's that my brother,

and is you, I mean, departing culp as like so, no?

Yeah. And the type totally that's so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, but I said, and I said,

and you you and for so you're amalgated and me and I and you

or so vulgar corriente grossero acos or the

worst the worst that's imagine yeah and I and I in my

vanity I'm to go to go a car in three four five

seven days yeah no no no it was not

no Why? The same I asked I. What's the What's? You, what

You think? You've You've You've You've My, my, my, my, my,

my, I've never I've done So, I've always I'm So, I was

There, I'm, I don't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, I don't know how to The magic is congruency. Ah, yeah. The magic is congruency. And I mentioned I said a rato. I'm a life.

Yes. How I'm going to mandar to the other life? So, I'm a bad beastia. In my conception,

that bestia is there is there for something. Sure. Algo. In my in my

spirituality, in my psychis, in my education human, human it's difficult that I

understand the dignes of the deities not we don't understand those decisions and also

I did for desawgo or enoho under the influence of the yeah of the

fury that was the only that was to say what I was in incongruency

because because you can you can't destroy when you all

your interior, your your bodies function are to construct not you

can't do you your energy and your mind and your body and your spirit to be made

to do life? To give life? Yes. Sincil. Me did a

frustration, yes. I'm knowed much. But when I got to me

and I said, I'm a little, I'm you who can you're

you? Because, you know, you can't three velars very well you know

what a more not don't know you know you know you know you know

yeah that's what I'm that my no no sure oh

and it and I I and I and I assume in my

quality of human with my with my knowledge that

I'm comfort a mom to help her to to be a tension psychological to help her

in my spirituality in a in a travel astral in a spiritual in my altar

to bring bells oration and to that was that was that was that was

that was not damn not down yeah I said and what you think what

When I assumed my work, my function to what I can do do, what in congruency I can do, and me I'll forget of that type

because I said no I'm going to get a one of a star and you for that that bestia he was

they're the way more horrible. It was they're to golebes. Wow. Pagos

her cuckarm. That's That's a part That's the part Real of the magic What we're What you're

What you see The congruency And it's Something that Many people There's a A little complicated

To understand Because Many Many have And I Go back With this Of this

The Magia Magica Is that I know What's What Commercial

The magic commercial Tonta That's That's Like you Like you You're going to Resol of the

life The magic is very profound Much Very profound But But as you It's very

congruent So you No exist The incongruence Or you're Or you're You're You're

You're You're You're You're You're And this is what I have impacted

Because I've I've heard And I'm I've said to you that me impression the,

the way to think, his way to try to work, your philosophy, because

it's very accord to the magic real, to the real, not a fantasy,

not a last a little in a class. Uh, right, all the

lunas genas, Echinoxios solitios. This is the Luna Jena the one

of all the of all the of all magicas if we're there there's a portal

and the no that's existed always sure mercury retrogated

always always yeah and how you do you that's

what important exactly I was I was I'm a ritual and

no and no oh yeah but is that I read and I in

a no that if you do The other, in a March 13, it's an portal,

and it gets the merrero, Mero. Look, no is so. Sure. If we

put them to study, there have been reals, magos, alchemists. Aquimists. No?

This, characters in the history that have tried to say, oh, hello,

much good, I am, and you are the most of all the malo with

cairn, if you're going to do you do you do that what I'm what I know,

then. So, the ego and you do you do you do you do you

do it? No, it's true. Sure. What me makes

think that there's people that's great, to do to study,

to practice to, not they don't do you but someone did

in a video of a TikTok. Uh ha is that is

part the congruency that we've been talking and the I'm in

the ego the ego that's with the I'm in various interviews of the

I'm okay so it is part fundamental and it's and it's very important

to understand this if someone that's if someone in this side of the matter

that's that's that be in the fact in the fiction fiction, no? In the fiction, but, but

this is the talk that I expected to Pati. I thank you have accepted the invitation. We can't

record your social, for favor? Yul, magic and beaue. Magea and that's, in the description of the

episode, they're there the links for you know the job of Yul, the fact, you know,

I've seen one and it's a pleasure to be able to hear to hear thank you to acceptable

the invitation with your service, thanks to the family of Xanormal that's with us

we're going we're a very and we're we're in the next episode. Until the

next this time. Chao. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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