EXTRA ANORMAL - Brujería en el Poder: Secretos Ocultos en Política e Iglesia

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

En este intrigante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias se une a Paye Rogers para explorar la conexión entre la brujería, la política y la iglesia. A través de relatos históricos y testimonios actuales, analizamos:Rituales y símbolos ocultos: ¿Qué prácticas esotéricas se han utilizado para influir en decisiones de poder?El poder del ocultismo en instituciones: Desde campañas políticas hasta ceremonias religiosas, ¿cómo se integran estos rituales en la estructura del poder?Testimonios y controversias: Discusiones sobre el impacto y las implicaciones de estos secretos en el ámbito público y espiritual.Únete a esta conversación que desafía las creencias tradicionales y descubre la otra cara del poder.🔔 ¡Suscríbete y activa la campanita para más revelaciones en Extra Anormal Podcast!

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Conditions apply. Casualment, we are under a agenda satanica. Also, there are pactos in altos politics with these deities that these deities they say, well, I want a lot of people. I want to provoke a whole war in your country,

and you're going to give all the power and you're going to convert in the person supremed of this place. Because many times the brusheria are askelerosas. They're askerosas.

Because many of them are demoniacas that they're paint with that's for the santito, that this wwele mal there.

There's there is the evil demonio. So, they're some

different doors of the Vatican Yeah, but I'm going to pass no?

Yeah, that that's basically symbolically it's a open

a reality but energetically to you're saying human

we're we're doing rites and to you car

to open portals with the inframund with So you're very

oscuros to continue sustaining the level of the level of that we're

that we're that's it because your abel and you all

not to know you you'll do you have to you have two

kids and your two two kids are to be

abus also are and be perpetrate to for

all the eternity until that that someone to

get To you see, no they're to talk about this? So, I'm going to

see the monitor? Yeah, but I'm my pedo but right but right so chinged

something? Yeah, whee? She ching-o so, yeah, she chitrono no, we.

Yeah, What I'm going to be able to be able to be. What's it. What are you? My name is Paco Arias, and I'm very happy to be here with all of you. Family,

today, I'm content for who us accompanied for the first person a very special, someone that I've seen in the city of Mexico and that

today I'm going to be here Rogers, how you're doing? Very emotional Romano, very happy. Despite of

a travesia and then many processes and there to be there's going to one or other place

but we're here. Much thanks. And I'm very very grateful for your invitation

and then we're to enjoy much of this moment that I think will be

very memorable. No, brother. Thank you to here to Tewssepec, Tireas, Guaqueans to talk with this caloricito

that, Vaya. It's a siente. Oh, your man, the reality is that I have I had I've

talked with you, and the people just saw in the miniature of this episode, in the title,

we're going to talk of things that I don't see if I don't know to mention it, but you

did you a phrase that I said, you said, procure us how, that's it's something or

something. And I said, procurements that we're going to get us in problem for what we're to mention today. Correct. But,

but before to enter to you know, I know you've seen in various podcasts and various projects, but

if there's a first time that's that's that's knowing, who you're to do you

and what are your projects? Well, look. For to start, my networks

on Instagram me can find like Payer Rogers Cosmico, in TikTok as Payer Rogers, YouTube,

like Paya Rogers, that we're going to relansar other the channel. The people know me like Pye Royers.

I'm called I'm Ivan. I'm Mexican. Nacito in the frontera of this country in Tecate.

Well, in Tijuana, but I in TECati. I'm a much things. In

things professionales. I'm I'm licensed in relations international and I have a

speciality in politics exterior. Okay. And, but in things spiritual,

me edico to help to help the people for media of the apertures, the dons,

the talent, the experience that God and the same people me have done. I'm not

a lot of different parts of the world, with different situations in things spiritual,

energetic, and I think that never I know to learn. I'm not I'm

maybe pretending that I know that I'm a expert, because

constantly me I'm preparing and the life always we put

a And we're always we're in that constant apprenticeship. But just just I'm right at this

moment, trying to comment, divulgar and share the majority of information that can help

to help to help that we're living in this world, that more than political, more than

economic, more than many things, I think it's a luch spiritual and that we have to recover

our power to have those tools, to help to have to be in contra of the

adversity. Okay. Look, in this podcast I've interviewed to many people, bruchos,

paleros, santaer, gerberos, coranderos, and all what they in eros, this,

you how you, how do you catalogs? You, how do you call you? That is a very

good question because I me let have done much many times and as I'm always

in a constant preparation, her man, but no me like encassiarm

in something the day of the morning, for example, me want to convert in, no, I know, I'm a painter. And I'm a person that I'm very open to the transformation and to the experimentation

of all what is this life and this reality. I'm consider I'm, I'm a child of God, and so I go to the places with that bandera. I'm a child and the authority to me

to exercise the work that I do, no, me la da a woman, some institution, a little religion, a me me la da da, to me the mother

And, well, just I'm, I'm just I'm very much things. No, I'm chaman,

but I'm chamanism. No, I'm really, but I'm perfectly how functioned the al-al-magia,

the brugheria. No, I'm not I'm very metied in things of politics. So, I

think I think I'm a person multidisciplinary that I amante of the studio and

of the constant apprenticeship. Of actually, after I know, to know the few

days, the news social me started to show your content. And I'll mention that

is a content very interesting and very polemic at the time. Because you talk you

know, like Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, Claudia Sheimbaum, which is the actual president of

Mexico, and of a lot of personalities that, that, in some form are in the world

of the political, but that also that they have this call that they pisen

of things that have occurred in the, in things paranormal, especially in the thing of the brujeria.

And, well, before to get to the family, you know, you know, you know, I'm doing the

episode, I'm a great favor, and, I hope to do you do you do you know

you know, you know, as this channel in YouTube and activating the campanita for that

you get all the notifications. And if you know on Spotify, there's a buttoncito

there that says to keep it's totally gratis and you are

to form part of this grand family. Now, if after you subscribe

you're a bit of you're saying that I'm you know that I'm that you

have impulsed to talk about about the political but not not so the thing

economic probably but it but not it's the enfoke but the enfo

nonational paranormal that there what are that for you to this

I personally I do the political, the audio, the real. Because

I've a family that was political and he's something

so I'm a part of a partyist and I don't I'm not, I'm

not, I'm not, I'm not a favor in any

party political because the little I knew when

I did know is a thing brutal very very

that it's to questionarse what I'm doing here and what we're doing because

when I think I'm that I'm not I'm the only the only the one of God.

I think I think I'm that person that he he's a point creator and that energy

dotada of calide of love that at final of the life we've in

the creation and that we we're part of the creation and that

we have to have to that that to comprehend that exists something much

more great and elevated than we're in our suburbia negam much

many times so soverby was a person very arrogant very rational I think

in a context like the majority of people in Latin America

we're in a context socioe economically very complicated umasco

homosexual I'm a person that I amvertamety someone that can

many things without avergonsar me because I've passed for a whole a transition and in

that transition I'm I'm starting to study things of politics and I'm and I'm

ohie why we we're we're we're living in this reality when the

reyno were in countries who were the reels who were those who were

those who were those who were those currently we're we're

we're the monarchy Spanish we coronas that still rigging

in a way and not only not not

leaders spiritual and in the people in the Vatican and the

Santa Sede that they put the so I'm

we have we we we have we we

we have we information in the government and

because we we're so one of the questions that

I start is how the faith can become

in power, how the creer in something and the information commenced to corromper to certain people

and that those people decide to corrupts and use that information for reserves or for their

own interests. It's when I study relations international and is when I'm going to understand in

a major profundity the context world, the system international, but more ahead,

I've got my I've got a spiritual. I've seen when I'm much avistamient of things in many

experiences. In my case I was very related with the demonios because me attack

them so I'm so I don't know the demonology actually in the history but

also I'm in things empiric in the experience personal that are the

demonios what are these entities how we put trampas how

us want they're moralize for the MEDO, how they're with

us, how they're to dores to make to make us down, et cetera. So,

I'm my desperer spiritual and I'm going to understand that the trying to comprehend the

context political at the world, ignoring of spirituality, you depriva to more

of the 50% of the real information. Because at final, if there the energy

I think you in this space, I'm I assume, but you you know, you have seen that

if there's been the brujeria, that if exists the energy, that if exist the magic, that are in things that

are so much of our comprehension and that we're trying to interpretalas, and so I'm,

understanding what's going in the world and that is more than a part human and

that there is a part spiritual playing a role very great in this. Mentioned

you young, probably. You're attacked by demons. Right. Right,

with your despera spiritual, all the information that you you know, and the

experience that you've gained, for you, what are the demons? The demons, no

there's a interpretation human unica over them, but if you're to me

Pahe that are the demons, are are beings conscious

of their own existence. Seres very antivos, very sabious, very

intelligents intellectually, with a frequency regressive. They're entities and people who

have in some point all the access to the information, to the time, to the

point, but in some point, their grand suburbia no, they,

they're in their magnific creation, not can conceive that there

are Hormosas, that Lowe were them. And his grand soberia, in some point, he's to make to pervirted to these creations.

And it's just to attack these creations in where they don't want to have a person more

magnific than them. So, there many types of demons. There are many types of Ceres of

frequencies regressives. For example, there are deities that not all the deities are demons, but

there are many deities that are demons. There are demonios that many of them have

capacities inter-dimensional and multidimensional and multidimensional. So, for example, they can be in the

algorithms of the platforms digital because it's a dimension more and they have the capacity to

control certain things. So, are an energy that exists, that is, that no

has the permission to be in this reality, but thanks to the

portals that we're those human abrimos thanks to the trampas

that they they're they're we're in this reality to get to we're in

our own our actions. Abrimed portals, no? As you I'm going to say

a question probably a little incomoda let's you know not all those, not

those deities are demons but if there are deities that are some for you

those are those are they are the Santa Morte for

example. Okay. The Santa MIRTE is a deity that has visited in the nights and that's very molest in some point for the work that I'm doing.

Because this is a deidad that's a limited of the murders tragic. No, it's a, the Santa Mewartre not represents the phenomenon that's implicit in the life. For example, you and I we're going to die. No?

It's, and all of what nace, it. But the Santa Mewartre is a Deidat, is an energy that just basically is disfrasada of that you can give

many things and pactas with it and maybe you can't give materially maybe

you will give power to give influence but what would be what you is

the he can get to get to you think you think that

had good intentions but obviously what what he was

going to use the portals that you have through the

pactos to to get to more people, to more families, and to be all the

pain of the problem emanated to that way. So, you know you're not with the

santa death, it's a demonio for you, if you did a fact, you

see, I've talked about with the same that you, and to the inverse,

that are that are and this, and the people, when they feel in those clips,

because we make clips of the conversation. Yes. And normally we

we put titles that atrapen. Sure. And there a lot people of

this cult, no. And he's no, it's that my my little, I'm

a cure of the cancer me, this or me or other. But I, Paco, I'm

a testigo where in the mail me get stories. And, of

actually me got a story that's being because we're doing a

episode special of this time that only to say

to you the title. It's more let me I look because

here I don't it's something that I'm going to you know but I'm the email

the mark here's here's the same the same the same me I'm asking

to my two kids correcto okay okay here I'm

marked on the Gmail a see a very so I'm I'm

because I'm saying no that I'm saying no so I'm if you

don't say nothing you do that's what said

some some also that me they're saying other thing very

different like what you just I'm just I'm I'm

I'm going to make my goal I'm going to make my goal. I did an episode about the

iceberg of the episode that this episode we've been we're doing we're doing a choposone to be

the origin I don't my annotations but what the the little that I recall

of that investigation that's did is, first, this is not in

Europe. A bit, right, they're going to assault to those who say,

no, this is something of our Races, of Wichiloposlick and that the Ades

to be, wait, wait, wait, for what I say, because the image,

this came, even, even, it's generally when is the years of

the Peste when they they attribute an image to the Deidat Because a

Calaver Because, well In the times In those times That was Asotado This part of the world

With this Plaga This pandemic Well obviously There were For all For all the For all the

place In Descomposion that they They were These rest Oseos And is that it

It's that It's that Deidate When they're To get to Mexico America, they're trying the idea

of the skeleton as a deities. And here is where it's where it's a incretism that's interesting between

our, those, our ancestors, that adorab that were to Ketzekowat, that different Dioces,

and between them is the man of the infamund, so when it's when it's when there's

a mescolance of the image that comes of Europe about how is the deidad

or how represent to the And here, there was a cult also at the murder. So, it's like this mix. And it's where opta

the image that all of them even even to get to be a person that sometimes you interpretas as a person masculine, when

they have the tunica black, and they're in this imponent. And then you can't be like a woman when

is black, when they put in pelucas, when they put in bestid very similar to those of the

Virgin, even. And it is going doing a series of mesquolanzas, and we're going to a point important. Why?

A bit, I'm going to say, I'll say, I'll do you, with much respect. Why many people, because I say, I believe in God, and believe in the Santa Morte. Aha, but

me inclined more for the Santa, they're saying. Why? And I, I don't know I said in this episode, and no I don't know. Because the Santa Mordeaux is a idea that that, like, no,

no, any chronicles, or nothing, you la molded to your form. You can continue being a criminal, you can be

being being being being being being what it's and she and she's going to be to do you

do you. Correct. With God you know, you know, but you have to get to

that you don't you go to a caprico. You know a transformation you have to be a

good person and a person and a person to the person to live in the carne,

living in my pleasure, living in excesses then it's more easy to adopt and create in a deidad that no has been bronches

with that. I'm gonna his manzanita, his puros, his cigars, and what that and I get it and me la

I get in. Yeah. But, ever, even, the respect. Oh, the respect,

no, no, no, no, but where there's conflictos in the time where

we're talking about, there's there's, there's, and malas recedas. Sure. What does

that, you know, I mean, I'm to attend to attender a many

people and I don't look in my ideology then offender to

absolutely nobody is if you you you're you I'm

here I'm I'm to I'm but this not

a real absolute but in my experience the Santa

Morte is all less Santa and is a

deida that has been very very has been added

accent thanks to all the pactos, and, obviously, thanks to all the murders tragic that have provoked these pact, you have said, there are

people who are people who are being venerating to the Santa Mort and that have a pacto with this deities, because the pactos are in favor of these deities and of demonio, are

very simple to realize. Really, not, really, not they need, they need, great protocols, for so we've been

in this world. But when I see, for example, what what does the Santa Mewart in generations posterior when when they're

with me and I see the lineages because you live in a carency your person and you

a carency in a poverty in a family full of cancer and a misery and I've got that some

abel did a deed and they'll recapitulan and say it's certain

my my abel venerable to the Santa Morte well the

well the might be to be to be very to be a but in

really you are a represent a lineage. And the Santa Morty, to you get content, but to all

your lineage is to be alimentar of their great misery that you you're going to provoke, thanks this pact. Malditions generational, no? Yes, it's converten in malditions. It's become in many

things, no? So, I, well, the Santa Morty, we know, we've seen, the, I've seen, has been to talk to me, has been to talk about

his reign, me has shown, me has shown, how has all the Spirits, atrapados, trapped there, those

literally, those have like manikis, those have been like paralyzed because he's not, they're not

in the infirno, in the sky, they're, they're in an royal that the that's

the same, because it is very very similar like a gregor, no, it's like,

an energy that was creating his house, was creating his identity, was creating all their

power, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly. Exactly,

so, So obviously we're, because that me does a me don't know to the Santa Muirte, because we, because we, we're we as humans, we know, and no, and no, there's nothing more more great than God.

Mentioned something. In us, it's a good pretty, quite, quite and that much people say it's allude, that we're co-creators of our own reality for the fact of

being, well, enormously bendecides is what in your moment the name lucifer

enviiated in us also a little he said a man incorrect he said

a miclante cutli which is the the god of the landso of the

inframund that that is the santa murder yeah that I said

that fredatas I want I want I'm I'm I'm

have you've you've given people I'm that I'm that can

to be with this And that, and that this, of the other role. Of the

Santa Morty? Well, look, Cabe mention that I'm to mention that

many people of different rubros, of different countries, of different contexts, okay,

in where, because every person, thanks to their context, was, there's a energy,

no, not is the same, for example, that came with me, a senior Venezolano

of 75 years that's dedicated to the political and that is full of brujeries and of

pacts with santaia to come a man a man a man of 19 years

with me Mexican nasida in Monterey the context obviously define

much what energy will manage the person when I'm talking

of the Santa Morte attended to a lot people for those

things because you have to come they're No, I don't know, for example, a I remember, a daughter of a that the senior had,

the senior, when this young, she was a little, look. It was a woman, we're going to put Juanita, no? Juanita, yeah, she has 30 years. But when Juanita had 10 years,

her mom was with the Santa Muirte. Okay. So, the mom of Juanita had an friend with that they two managed these pactors,

then they put in that his altars to buy the figures the belas all the but the but the two

are the so they're so venerable to the same but the but the two they're

and when that's so that when that is to put the end of the end of the end of

the the end of the people he he paced and who he'd say okay

I'm to try to to try to to try to a much people to do to

give to these offrendas and all, but quittal the life to this other person, no? So when

Juanita comes with me in a context in where all his life has been in misery,

has been in poverty, has been it's not good, her mom that was pacted

with the she, she, she, he decided to try everything, he did

do a lot, he did a lot, then then at some point the mom

was very I'm a cancer when Juanita came with me and they've passed various years of

this, no? So I'm to identify there that's a fact of a fact,

you know, if you do you have to have a responsibility to romper that right there's

there's, there's, there, and to let's to say to the deida great,

I don't you need I need so, but much thanks for all the paro

you did do you. I want represale. Yeah, yeah, all right, but not

you're going to get to try and pretender that nothing so. So,

what was what did the Santa Morte? Well, the Santa

Morte is, no I'm I'm want to get to all the

dolor that I want to you I'm to get the door and

you're to get to get a after you do you do you

know? And when when they come with me I do to

to runper these pactos and the mom they're going to approximately

about approximately a three months and his cancer and it's to be because I pay the sane of the cancer

was because the pacto was provoking the cancer. So, also have other cases. Is that what

we have to understand is that energy call energy. So there people that in this life pacted

with the Santa Morte but not know that their vis-a-oel also and all

what is what is recognized in a minage will be being represented

more later now. So there many people that ignore of these

and they they're making and they're not even that's facted in the

birth or trinacement of generations, okay? So, yeah, it's more

more more than a individual, it's a group of people, then then so I

do, for example, of a person that came with me too, that was facted

in some point with the Santa Morte, and me And he says, Pagie, well, I don't want to be pacted. But how do I have, I'm much fear, because I have two

kids, because I have my family, because really no, I'm done nothing. So, I'm going to see his energies and I'm to see, I'm going, is that these pactos, no, they're not, this, comes to already. This comes from up. And he, he said, he'll to the santa

Mwerte of his abuel, no? So, that his

abuel also pacted with this entity and that in some point

at a right of of the pactos and have many

things in the families that no abuse sexual of the

people they they start to get the life

and they start to get the between the

family and well is what I do is

all of that and more I'm going to explain because it's all the

context familiar that has been and he he said it's because your abel

that you and you you all not to know you you'll do you

you have two kids and your two kids are to be abusated

also are to be lastimated and you will perpetrate

to for all the eternity until that someone

to get this is the caten is a it's a

a can that I'm very very very because the

Santa Merte he's the work in the man with the man who

the people that I know the people who they're always always

sometimes at the time they're they don't know to me

I say I'm with the man and with God and it's like

I'm like I know I'm I'm I'm with the

Santa and with the diablo so how are

the pactos that you have toped but that have to be with the devil are very very fervous because at final the

diablo represents an energy that is multiplied in different essences and consciences so we we say the

devil but there are many types of the demonios the demonios provienes from much from the

humanity exists and if you you see you see for example the history

Sumeria that is one of the civilizations actually more recognized and the most

an more recognized actually that could date between 300,000 to 500,000 years before

there are historiators that differing much in the lapses of time but more or

less that the, the ideologies and the creences of the

Sumerios and the people that was habitable in those Mesopotamia

yeah they were about the demons and, and, in fact, it's a video in public of the cantante of Lady Gaga. No see if you've seen.

Yes. Yes. But it was abertament. Yes. Yes. Yes. There. There are.

Real. Rear. Yes. Yes. And... First, I don't remember. How is? No.

No. No. I'm not. I'm not. I don't know. I don't know. Well, these demons, there are ones that they were the attribute of that they could

control the pesadillas, others that, you can put different trampas for media, by the media, by means of the avaricea. So, the demonios, have been changing of names, but stills being the same. Those are the same. So those are the same, passing in cultures and adaptings to the beliefs and to the

and the fears of each culture or every civilization. So, um, it's, uh, what are the, like are the, like are the,

like those, um, there are the levels of pactos. And there are levels of offrenda. For end,

there are levels of energies malignas or oscuras, that depending of what you are doing,

then they're going to do, then they're also, then me to talk Pactos very simple, in where

simply a person says in a moment of desperation, oh, yeah, well, if you can you can't

do you, God, because me has been very bad, no. So,

help me you, diablo, demonio in the ignorance. So it's like what

I'm you know to do my demonio, help me and if there's

a marro a pacto because it's very simple to do. But these

these also don't need to be about those or consensuated

like in my libri albedri I pacted with a facted

a fact these these pacto are for example, a

through our conducts. For example, that I do, okay, I'm not a thing I'm

an example burdo, I am I'm being made completely to the pornography and to the

prostitution. And I promote energetically all this, I'm see, I'm

there, a lot not pacted with a deidate but I'm a borgue, that's doing a

deidate to a demonio also, also they also. You're saying, the carne, the excesses, you know, all of that energy.

Obviously, what do you want the demons? Much of times they want to know that's that they're but the less

know the people that are really, better. Mejor. They're invisible. So, they're not

able to, I, for example, I'm much times that the cancer is provoked by demonios.

And you, the people that are to listen in house, they're going

the relations, for example, in the cancer of the people,

and for example, the plagues, because they're to get in the casas

in the casas or of the ratones, etc. And I start to feel like

a horrible. A pester. A pester. A pester. The cancer is putrefaction in your body.

Okay? And many many times it's... It's a song really. Yes,

yes, so, so, so, so, so, then it's demonious whewel

very mal. We've in a society full of cancer and casually

we're under a agenda satanica. So, we're in a point in

where many many governments and elites have these

and know perfectly how function this. So, so

there there's individual in where X person can go with a

person can be this entity that that's need, there's

there of in altos mandos political with these deities that these deities they say, I want a lot of people. I want to provoke

a whole a war in your country and you're going to give all the power and you're going to become in the person

supreme of this place. So there. There's so I'm more or less. And no. And is

that precisely mentioned something and very important in the Santas scriptures there there are

a phrase that replic that replic in many people that is in the times the

malddad is going to multiply. That mald that's multiplying today. And I

know, it's that there's there. There's always, there's always

there always there. But it was like, I don't know, a

increment that every case, I mean, I know, I receive

Piedn't help, I've said many times. And in this pediment of help me for this, and when you know you know that's a person

that's a person that's passing the mal, that has attacks nocturns, that have that's

that are afflicted. But it all this came to a part of an abuse for part

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was with the other was in the merrumpar and we're and so he went when he said

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the lampra way she ching- carisiva the put but but right but right

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all is Well, we're we're going after a little pause extrana. This,

not we're going to cut out, Hasel, that's that's because I'm

mention to something. I'm talking to how the maldda has multiplied to the and the

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or so yeah corrected the error but it's ching-o is that

is that is a game or man or so if there are energies

that exist that are that are molest obviously because all this

information is going to talk to do so and so

that that means that we're giving in fibres sensible

and that we're talking things serious and that's that we don't we're not we're not

we're that has to be with the elites that are that's that's

that's that's you're that's you've mentioned many in your social

what is your opinion about about I, to the I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm okay okay look a last

last time we've first of of an artist that has made to make

a video and all we're a name of a deity and it's called the Mahhtu

the deid and is a deid a deid Sumeria that is some one's veneraban

and others then they gave much to this deidad for his level

of maldad no well talking about the Vatican

the the Vatican in one of the one of the nids of

the bivora more that there in the world a city

that's that's that has enriqueceded of the necessity of the

people and that many I've also I've talked also there's

a 19946 in where he about the translations errone

of the Bible and how for example the word that

the pederastas and pedophilos the other to put that a homosexual

So, then to us homosexuals us can't all the piece. Obviously, no is

casuality that alteration. It's evidently the Vatican is a city of state conformed by

puros men in the power. They're a pacto patriarchal very and they

have all an expedient secret that no can't access to it, because for

they're they're they're integrity territorial. I in the Vatican

I've ingressed into the astral and in this reality I've I've gone to the Vatican to see it

I've been to the capilla sextina all the what you do they're to make

to the but in the astral also I go to visit they've they've

protections very great those protections are bivoras multidimational

are demonies are demonios in form of bivoras and casually they're

they're very protected by magic for burquer by

rits and ceremonies very oscuros that practicant in moments specific

of the history. For example, every 25 years they're open different

doors of the Vatican Yeah, but they're going to pass no? Yeah,

that that's symbolically it's a door in this reality but

energetically you're saying human we're we're doing RITos

and your car to open portals with the

inframund with very oscuro to continue sustaining the

level of the level of the problem that we're that

is a history came of many years and

for that has got to what has has had

had to have a series of a series

of movements in the country that now we

know currently actually the batical have properties extrater

territorial all long and inch of the world. It has many predicators of their

power institutional, is to say, sacerdotes, in many parts of the world. But what is that the

Vatican, one of the things more of the case, because that's not it's not so it, it's

something that has been to the Cajah of Pandora, is the quantity inhuman

that ascending to millions of cases abirtos of pedestia and pedophilia. And only only taking

in count, those who started to be demanded in the decade,

in the year, in the year in the year 10 approximately right,

started to make a lot and started to talk many people.

So, detras of the pederast and the pedophilia, not only only

it's a practice of the sacerdote that obviously I say to

the recommendations consider reconsider reconsidering many many to your

son, for example, to confess and to let him a

court, in a confessionary with a father because you know because you

don't know, you know, you're going to do you a child,

is the most pure that we need and it and it doesn't

me point of there. There's a ideology Catholic that

that's respect. I'm I'm baptized but but I need

to be baptized to someone that water, that just the love that does his mom a through his

vintra and a través of the liquid apniotic for that a child has baptized or no

or no need to confessing a or sent and feel culable since that

is that is that the Vatican has much power and has trats behind

of bambalinas with different governments for that still still so that

the only religion institution and a country actually that is very

but that is very powerful economically. So, it has much capital economic, properties, and obras invaluable, patrimonial of humanity. So what I see of the Vatican and what I've seen in the astral is all the ingerence direct

that they have, for example, in terms of the lavado of money, in terms of the Deep Web and Dark Web, in where, Obviously, the children not only only they say are cases

in where the father you have used, but also also they have used many times for things

of pornography infantil. So, so the Vatican for that is like a house

protected for all the government that the car of Pandora that we

don't see me explain? It's it's like if it was like it was a

a a treasure correct But that is extremely blinded. I'm in some moment I did a iceberg of the Vatican. Much of people, sacerrots, me duplicated the videos, critiquing what he's about. And, and, of really, I always mentioned something.

You can't believe in what you want, but there's a factor that is unacceptable, deplorable, and horrible. if it's present in your or in whatever thing you professes. And this is the fanatism.

Yes. Why do I mean this? There are people that have a faith and say I, for

example, no I'm not I'm in these things. And it's we're we're just

we're a mind, body, soul, and spirit. You, you have the capacity

to think and use your create and also reasoner. But those people who

have this factor, that is fanatism, that you you're you're doing, the evidences the evidences

make the eyes sordos and not they don't pay attention and not they're not they're,

because many times they say they're but they don't want and there's

better than the when the fanatism is so so that you impede

reason because that is you impede to reason and say I think that something

I'm not so I'm talking about I'm talking with my spouse away of different questions that

we've been we talking about because we've a video that we know that's you know

that's that video you have to see that and I and I was about how every

religion has a fraction of the because I don't I can't say

no no every one has every one has a fraction of And in this, in this passage, we know, we're saying of the creedcia of the India,

Hindu, of the reincarnation. And there's a message that this videoclip me, me, he left thinking much, no? That this universe

is made for, for you and for me. But no we're different beings. We're the same. Reincarnating in different

dimensions, years. And for that the phrase is when you passed out of I'm going

to paraphrase when you went to you know, you're actually you're doing you're doing with you.

Is a boomeran. Attackas to your brother but you're attacking to you're talking

to you and I talk to my wife that even in the Bible that mentions

amaras to your progimo as to to you as you because? Why?

I mean, why you mention the phrase of you know, because it's a series of things very important that I think

in these religions we're part of the truth, part of the truth, not is the truth

part of the fact of the truth but when he occupa this to looker, to get

to make a advantage and better to be more to be a perverso and to have

the respald so grand of government of potences and also power acquisitiv

as you mentioned as the Cajas that in some moment that can be able to be going to

be able to and I think that we've talked and as how it have said

different leaders that are actually are they're they're that this

is a little more than a political so I then I said

that in the astral they have protections of great magic and that

the bivoras when when they were in the astral they're in my body

because there are people who can say it's that the Pye Miente is that

the Pye I don't I believe or no I'm a charlatan but for example

if you you've a podcast that I in Nero that I'll say that were

going to pass this year the first that I said was that was

there was there was And still didn't not succeed nothing of what he started

in the Papa. I was that podcast me it's a last of Nero.

So, all of I'm see on the astral. And there many things that

will start to that I'm saying the year last. We can remember

what is what you did you? Because right I know, well, it's said that

the Papa actual, the Papa Francisco and Tocayo is, is very bad of

health. Yeah. It's very bad and possibly I don't I'm

there can't be a change. Sure. ...de-papa. Yeah, I was what said in that podcast, because I much of what I see,

it do I go and do agilized, for example, with the cards, no? So, in some point I want to show

how I'm how it works when I'm when I'm imagine that we want to, more ahead to you're going

to show this part of the job for that you see simply. Yes. In that

podcast, I said, between many things, I said that there were many

there are many there's many people for the of Donald Trump. I said

that in May was to a conflict very very very

between Claudia Shaneba and Donald Trump something something that

will do that will do talk that that

I'm that I'm that was canal and talking

much information and the father. I was the of the Papa.

It's going to be, because evidently what happens, because it's that are bivoras and that even one, then it's

a lot, it's not, it's an institution that's going to know many things, because all what is going to

in the United related to PIDI, related to Jeffrey Epstein, to the photographs that the first

that was that was Donald Trump, and for more that they're that he's part of

all that corruption and of that cochinero in the political because we have even a periodist Mexican very very valiant that risked

her life and that they're privated Lydia Cacho in where about the reds of prostitution infantil

that ascending to hundreds of millions. Well. Well, because evidently they're for many

things, for many situations. Also, um, from parts spirituals, for rites and ceremonies,

as for many things more. And the children and are the most attacked and the

most vulnerable and what many governments don't they're to

do this part. All the what has to be with them. There's many

things very very related to them. So, God. Yes. Yes.

The Vatican, then, before that can the leaders, will be to go to

the Vatican you, you know, before those who are very rich,

then then they are to Traitioner one's to other.

Obviously they are part of hermandities, of loggias. We have the

remanded the serpent, that not is casuality. We have the the caballeros

Templarios, the masones. We have many hermandities that there are

different there are there but that they have pactos and that are

deciding that the current is that is a world

so So, for so I said, we're saying, we're under a agenda satanica, because the God to say venerate the Catholic, because you did it perfectly, they're in a part of the

truth, for something they're in the power, so those illuminates. For that's they know, as the Illuminati. They have the information, and

they even the information for that the hunger, yeah no exists in this world, for that the poverty now

exist, but that is the tragic, that a And in the information, okay, they're

with the necessity of the people, they're they're they're they're

they're they're they're they're all they're all right. So, I think,

as much some point these passages biblical that you're many

things of the Bible are real. I've read, I have seen and I

have been, but it has been been has been has been also. So,

so if they really really fomentar what they say a fomentar. They'd be able to

this. If the Papa Francisco were to who people said, ah, is that he's

the experience of much things, would have un-taped the Caja

of Pandora. They're much money that can terminate with much

success on a world. They're many things in their power,

that obviously there are many there much conflicts of interest. So, for me,

well, well, the says, I'm or the devil, or the he says,

I'm good and I'm sure of God, or the person, I think you have the

information, I'm good, but I'm a hypocrite, okay, I'm all the

power to do it, I'm enrikesco of the necessity. Apart, I'm not,

I'm that my God is a more, apart, apart, you abus, I'm,

I'm, I'm, and generation, in generation, apart, not castigo. So, the God

evidently that we get in the Vatican well, it's the God because

for me God is purest, for my God is honesty, it's valentia,

for my God is that's what you know, one's saying that the

Papa yeah is a moment so he is the number leader

at the world and the intermediary between God and the time

and certainly has cancer and someone that really

has a heart, he's he's somatizing as if functioned the

energy. He, he was he was of the God for he was,

but decided not to talk for cobarthia and already he's

more and he has been many me I'm I'm I'm

because God so God so met a person

into these institutions for that can help but

there he there he has got the power we

We have another case, for example, me say, Paya, because he's attack as Tantal, because there's many things to get to study. Okay, well, Dalai Lama. How Dalai Lama in front of all the press, he says, a man, chupam my, God.

God, that is a thing. Oh, God. And we're going for leaders and we're going to the light of the world. So, what has happened with that religion that creased here in Mexico? Nasson Joaquin.

And, and we can't go with much because the fanatism

but it's the mind with the ignorance and the necessity.

I don't consider in, I'm I'm going to say from the

issue, I do you do the information for that the

person recuperer their power and know they don't

need to need to get a divinity to love to the

God, for end they they they don't need a demonios, for end of they don't

they need a santos. So, it's not for God, someone that say, you know,

I'm facted I'm parted, but I have repented and I want to

God, and God to do you to do and God to say to the God,

he's me to be to get a someone in his sobberia that has that he has the

demonies and jodidos, his suburbia and the form of the fencing and

love eternal, that is God. Let me surge to me a a question. And, before to pass the next theme, you know, about you've been to protection. We've heard in this podcast that

the Santa you know, that those mortals are protection, that different amuletos are protection, and we can't go and talk to

the night of different protections that the people occupants. In fact, for there, then I'm going to do

get a investigation, oh, yeah, get a teagramatone, oh, yeah, and I always I've said, I

know, I use amuletos, and I do with much respect, because there's many people who do you know in amuletos, for me no

functioned that form, and I have commented how it works with me, before, to get to enter into

to this, and no me does a very much to mention the team, we, we,

we come to the ombros and we put them to borrow, even when we we do

to the carreterer, always we do we always invocamos the power

divino and never never us has passed nothing thanks to but you

you that in this moment we you are this you tell us

how how go to how are these protections to because

there are much and the people say that what is the

better protection for me the more protection is

that you practice is my faith. It's that I think I have the power and that I think that

over my life no rigged nothing more than God and God and the Tierra and that he pese to, I'm going until God and the earth want. No, I'm going until the Santa Mewerden until that the Santa

Mewart, until that Femot, until X. Demonio. No, I'm going to go to because, obviously, what has passed in this way, that has helped a person, because there are other people that

are going to their Deidat and they they're he's he's he's

he's a men a menace what he is a thing he because is the

envidia because obviously listen what I talk I'm I'm

doing because I don't do dogeries to me I'm because

me because me because me from many part of this security

all about because me a person many important legislators

that the part of the Supreme Court of Justice. I'm looking for what I do. For what I'm

to do you. For, no, me, me, it's got people to ask to ask me

if I'm do you can dogeries. Okay. I have the knowledge, but I don't dogeries

for nobody, for absolutely nobody, but me they're looking to be the context, for example,

of certain decisions. For a example, Palle that you see the future, what you see the

future of certain things that I'm to take to make as a decision orita.

So I say, I, I, I, let's try to guide to do the

point of the point of but at final, every will decide the way,

and I say, you know, oh, you know, what is the way is the

way, you know, you know, about this, he's, he's, he's, depending on

every situation, because at this point to me have passed much things,

no? For I protect me, obviously, how they're to me for that

that romp so I do I'm so I'm balko rapes romp

brugeries I do the people to do the information and how

function an evaluation how function the four elements

how functions how I've done I've done I

have done I'm I I'm the magic because

the magic is the movement of energy so

so so I do the fifth, which is the spirit or

the intention, according Platon, the Eter, no? So, I'll use all this

and we do the intention, a process of protection for the people, and for

me. So, so, I don't have a tattooages, I've a new

that I got to cost to like 100 pesos, me my one of

my other, I'm a little a cross, but this me do you never I don't

know, well just a bit to be wapo, I said, I'm going to put something, but no is my amulet. No, I don't

have amuletos that I porte. And my major protection is to know that God is to be going to be

going to have to have the force and the faith for to be able or in my humilded are going to

get people that God and that can be and that can't help in that way.

So, so there many types of protections, there protections of santaia. There are protections for deities. There are protections for brujeria. There are protections

for magia, negra, magic oscura, magia red, magia black. There are many types of protections. But for me, is the faith. It's the that I have the power. You know, nobody me will be to take this

that I have been. It's the only that coulderunbar all is that I perdi-er the experience, no? And that you say, I don't believe in I'm not. I'm sorry. I'm not. No, I'm not. So, obviously, so, obviously,

they're renewing the protections. For example, the Vatican, energetically, has protections very fervent, that's renovating. Ancestrales. Those are they're renovating, by means, the practices. The protections more fervent of the obscurity

are by the blood, right? For media, of what historically, they're going to know some sacrifices. There are various words that you are going to censure,

my man. Demacias. Yes. But for not to lose the essence, no, there's many

protections from the security, very fertes, but from the light, the use, the

naturalness, the intention, the love, the collective, oh, is very very strong.

So, I'm in collective, I've worked with 800 people. I've

said, let me, let him this frasco water, bendice the water,

do we have an oration in a whole, now we chemes mial of the and this will be to signify this and all when all put the

intention. Imagineate 800 people intentioned. So, they're romp things and all we

protect them and rebotan and it's hard and it's hard and pass that I have a

photographias in where and I have evidence how the life after the after the

people because they were disproteged and they didn't they're they're they

so they in terms of protection, will depend of the person, what he crea. I think in the love profound that we need

God. For me, no I'm more great than him. So, we're very sanos,

a past of many attacks that I've been I'm more more more than that I'm

more than what you commentes because there are to be congruentes, no,

with what we do we do you, with what we do I think with this, is a

foot to to enter to this theme that that's very important the magic the influence

of the magic in the elites and in the government the

brujeria in Mexico have been have had televised

things that the people know but like no it

doesn't or simply not they don't they have

with bastones of mando things that have with

with with these leaders. And I'd talk about you, that's not, I'm a sombre. Of the really,

not me a sombre. Because from there's times biblical, there's even the

thing of the Bruch of Endor that's in the book of Samuel, asamuel, desperated for having the

direction, he's, he's, he's obligated to invoke the spirit of Samuel for that he

did the the, the So, so from times Biblical, always

has been necessary the broho of the header or the leader spiritual or something that's

always, the history of Merlin, a me so me so it was so he served to

the noblesa or he was the the guide spiritual in these chronicles and it

always has been so all day of today. There a case that I want to

want to that many know that is the case of Elbaester Gordillo. You want to give the context to know your point of view. For the people that no is

in Mexico, this woman was the leader syndical national of the education, the leader of the professors, the government, the Cente,

from 989 to the 2013. I'm going to mention something that probably me met in problems but

no me interest when they're when they're a power

and the people that is a master and they

know to do I'm to do the there was a

there was tremendous with you probably your his

your his you could be the place and

not not studying this and the studying the prepa

yeah Yeah, I could do classes in the preparation. And then we're

we're in why we're in a system of education so deplorable. So in those years,

the corruption in this theme of education was a very very strong. The

Baxter Gordillo was, he was he was a lot of money with the time of

places, favoritism, favors, and a lot of things. When this

president that, appealed Cedillo gets the presidency in December of

1994. It's happened to the theme of Colosio not, which was a time

was very really because was very loved for many and so

did you had to some way I don't know, I don't say

like to fill those zapats and he he he went in what

areas administrative had errors and he top with the

was there. And it was where she did know that with she did it. So, practically it was like a menace of me, I'm going

contigo because there are things of corruption. Vete the the country. Exactly. This that I was going to

start in a book that's a second, but here it's a brohs of the power. Exactly.

Exactly. Exactly. There's, the book. This book, is related for a person

that is a periodist that study in the UNAM that is Jose Hill Olmos. He is

he document to this. No, me I'm so talking to the manga. So when

practically he said, he said, I'm a menace of this woman, obviously decive the

menace of the president national and she she, knowing all what

he had done, he had done, he went, to recurre to the brugheria

of many forms. She practiced a lot of things for here in

this book mentioned that from she had a interest for the cults

never practices that had to make magic religious of origin

African and a lot of things with the syncretism no Santa

Murtu Yoruba etc so he did he said to do when she

she be amazated for here we can go with

a sterer that he he he And it's what is what is what

is what is the she's the she's a Africa to make a ritual and the

famous ritual is the first that one because a person yeah

he said it's a sacrifice a leon that because she

she because she had the protection she she was really not

was not to be in the power in the she she was

to leave in pass so not I don't want to the carcels. Then she no

he interested according the book to have a post

political simply that this man not medentara she she

go to Africa exactly go to Nigeria I'm to mention things

that are very censorables in Spotify will be

totally free so he says that about with

a bruo and they mention of a ritual

he had to do with a leon a leon a leon that more or less

has lived no more of the 70% of his life

that that had all his dents because it was

that leon were exclusively with those characteristics that

she she she was to to have to have

a form magic he they asked photographs of

this president even the description, the color of his eyes for a lot of things

of Cedillo no, not only only is the typical photo that you say for example send me a

photo with a photo with a future on the not characteristics color of hair color of

eyes et cetera and when they they're they're they're they're

when it's when it's when it's when he's a market popular where

she's with a bruch. And at the same time, 10 men approximately were cased to

this animal. The intention, and here I will repeat something that I've mentioned in content

exclusive, not is disvivil it. It torturar it. Let's live,

but with the maximum suffering this animal was casted, tortured and

doggled and very very very for maximizing his energy

and his courage because that was the energy that was in the

ritual he they said to be able to be even to even

even to even to have had to be perfectly

very meticulose and his change of the and it's

to be menstruing a lot of things about there. When

they're these people were when the life of the animal

before to the before they they're they're an a mucsio in the

animal for to start the animal still in a animal

in a they're in some point where the animal yeah the animal falles and all this liquid

rojo it's done with visceras with all and the indication is the bester no

you can't you get this the roba so like you're they've been a chosa of paha

and barro where they're they're they're tountar of visceras

of the sand or is to punt it and at the time

she had to have the photographia of this president, repeating his name, repitient your name,

imagineate all this. It's something so that brutal. They're saying that while she was in

this ritual, she dismayed various times. Obviously I've had the

know of his vanesies, the again again to get to get to getcha, not

so, they're they're they're back to get some there

yerba and if was going to get to be a

time four hours. The impressive of this is that after

that this ritual he a call the assistant of this

president and then he he he will to read the phrase

that he said in a tono conciliator my girlita

her hermosa, I need to talk to you. She was

a testigo of how the magic act was a form rapidism the amazes

and the auditoria said she and all all all disappeared and

even even was more time in the power she.

What the people probably know is that at a

little time his nieto So, his nieto favorite, his he's called Francisco.

There's my tocao, poorcito, nene. Hijo of his wife, Maricruz, he's, he's,

he's, and it's when they're that ritual not only the legon. Conlevable

the life of a nene, of an infante that would get his

blood. God my, when I started to learn all of that that's,

because the people talk, yeah, the people to talk of that's yeah, you know,

no, no, no. There's more. And, really, even the head

me dole when, when I do this. Yeah. What you think of that?

Look, well, just, it's, it's just to look, the car to the bester

gordidio of the demonio, no, because even physically is very different to

what it was different to is about that this job just had costed like 45,000 dollars

and that at a raise of this is the he said, oh yeah, because she still when

he says, oh, it's carito, no, the job, but there those

had, imagine to and he said, but you don't have paid

the really the better than, what you know, what also also,

I'm mentioned a word relation to all these changes of these things because one

thing is that you say you say you know, first was a Catholic now I'm Christian

now I think my faith but the bester Gordillo is like prostituy much

his faith no with that something that something even she one she's

she in Marucoes and in Marucoes and he said you're you're you're very

maldita you no no there you. And to do this ritual, imagine at a level of ambition, the level of the, of, of, the, of, the, of, the ganas to continue with the power, of that someone's doblee ante you, all what had to pass, because she was, it's

all less tontas, no? So, you did you, it was passing for deities buddus. In some point, she was very met in the santeria, but as she was up being in the level, yeah they'd be able to be able, that they'd be able, that's a certain way, that the collieres if she

no quix. Then she went to the magia budu with

deities budu then I'm he's to get to find alternatives until

that in some point I'm I'm I'm did because

like you did the part of the politics always

they can be and not all those people have

those know those people need or those services public

so so can debiliter to the enemy. So it's very, it's very

good that exists the skepticism for them. Because the being a sceptic

not you exenta of this situation. Many people say, no, is that

this universe is mental and that if you don't think, debiliting

the job, no, so the creer, the to recognize that

exists and the and the protect to that is what it is what

the ignorance, many times simply it's that this happens that's

a person so in some point the bester yeah he had many

and he didn't pay many things he they they

they they said that's the same author and that's

they're they're and then then at final of

all this transit to go with the Santa Merte

and he says to the Santa you put all those altars that you're in the city of Mexico

but help me to protect me to do all what they're doing. So, again, we're recapitulam of this

deidad and this, no? The practices of brujeria in the world always have existed.

And as you said from the history, for example, the book apocry of Enok,

that you know, about the vigilants caithes or of these Proportioned information, how

constructs, et cetera, between those, themes of brujeria. So, since the human is human, we have this knowledge, but of the intention

surge all, because the people, many times say, no, the brujeria is a mal, the intention is

what is what is correct. What you do you do with those connections that you is what you

can get to move much things or disbalanceial much things. In Mexico, is They know much of that

but we're going a little more back. For example about Francisco and Madero.

Yes. Yes. Francis and Madero that was this revolutionary and that was president

of Mexico. He, when he was 17 years, he went to Paris and in Paris he knows the

work of Alan Cardek. Exactly. That was a spiritist then he he's devored

all those books, Francisco and Madero and he said, I'm to consolidate

as a to contact spirits. Sure. He's to contact spirit and that

they're in one of the messages that they are is, God, God,

you know, you're all to your progimo as you and that he's he said,

and I don't that much he's he's because at final due to

the 1911 to 13 in the power and they're and they they're but

if they see in these practices occultists within of the

For example, we have a curandero, that is the first curandero viral of the history of Mexico, that is known as the

new Fidencio, and the new Fidensio that's in Guanojato, but he also his course in the

Spinozo New York. Well, he'd, he'd be with him. More of 30,000

people were waiting that the child Fidencio was sanar. He was abentable that chocolate,

that he had a puma with that the muddos those metia a little a bit of a bit of

a bit of those mudes and the invidentes logabam ver those paralytical after the the new

Fidencio utilised a columpio that he had, they'd and in 1998

who was with the new Fidencio with a infirmate in the in the

Peltarco Elias Presidente of Mexico so. So, then we we're

that necessity that we don't we're human and that many

the medicine conventional, because in that moment if we're in archaicos

in the medicine, that if we have advanced but we have been much more

imagine in the time of the revolution in the war Christa in the

quantity of the amount of the amount of the necessity

the that there also more more more we

a chamannas suppose Pachita no Pachita in Where did it, Jacobo Greenberg,

the know-No-Greenberg, and was hermina of Margarita Lopes-Portillo. Pardon, he was a friend of the hermina of Lopes-Portillo. Margarita Lopes-Portillo. So, so, obviously, that they're looking

those who have the power the best of the people, to the people, the bests, the bests, they're many

times a group, to me const, I've seen, I've seen, those equipes that's Because you

have at initial extra-officially you know to talk about that in the community

we know I'm I'm do I'm know I'm know that there's there's

one's that others there are many good there exists are people are people

and because many many times the people want I'm I'm

I'm enter for the people that I consults that you

see they That's clear, that they're with one or another, and I'm, of that way. I see how they're working. I'm, my, my, my biggest maestro are the people that I'm all the days, because it's what I do. So, also, there are registries

in where there was Maria Sabina, that Maria Sabina, that Maria Sabina was this Masateca of the Sierra Oaxacaean. Justly, it was ongittos, that they were to looker bankers, they came to look at Walt Disney, that came, or so,

that I had the knowledge. what we now know us like the acid lysergic or the LSD

well made for made for Albert Hoffman that Albert Hoffman in the

decade of 40 he knows also a Maria Sabina and

and then there a revolution a revolution psychedelica

very in States and there there come there

many things of what now we know the

classification dentiog psyched psyched psychotropics drugs etc but

we've seen that it's a situation that not only only we've been in Mexico because

Mexico we know we have a culture very very creient of these things

or maybe we're we're still we've heard that no, that the bruchery

that she's bruchas that the curses of catemaco and that la la yeah

we're we're more we're we're we're we're we're

there but maybe not not of the way that they they're they're

but that's also, also, also, also, in the world, no, for example, one of the claros examples is Venezuela, that in Venezuela, even is Simon Bolivar, this Libertario, so, they've been registros of that it,

and that in Haiti, also he's a baena with the but of a toro, for that he had, like, that force to attack all the adversity that is going to be on him. More

Adelante, then all the theme of Hugo Chavez. And Hugo Chavez, he was he was

in the man with the santaia. And he had intercambios because here we

we're to get in something, how the spirituality, the creencia, the energy

also commenced to getrars to the political. For example,

Fidel Castro was very intelligent and Fidel Castro infiltrava

a bruchos sateros, a person that had all these these these

know of Bavalaos those infiltrava into of Venezuela for that they

attendier to the military Hugo Chavez paged and he and he

since he's he was a young because as he's a

person that about about the other other other

other that is David Placer and David Placer

has a book the Hugo's of Chaves and another

that He's called The Dictador and His Demonios. So, so he he relata justly

how Hugo Chavez, then he starts a interchamio with the santaeros and that

the protections, and the fact Maria Corina that says, we're in

a war spiritual because also Maduro has protection and we're

going to talk about that but Hugo Chavez then opened even

so aerolinias, opened lines of aerolinias to make a major interchamble to Cuba and they were many

militaries to Cuba and they were in the santaia. So, we've started for

something, but then it's what I say, the cancer, the cancer, because

obviously, all the cancer that all the cancer that's imagineate in this reality

what the Bester Gordillo did to untarse all the visceras all like olia what olia

all that is cochinero all that is demoniac is what I would say because many

many times those those brusheries are askeros are askeros because many of them

are demoniacas that they are pinn with that it's pal santito that this wille

well there there's there there's the vivo demonio and the

demonio imagine she does that with that's with your body,

I'm in that's all right. And obviously, it's a podrida

in cancer. Only that that's cancer will be detonated in some point

more later. Because that are that these deities of all

the suffering that's provoking. And they're still not we

don't we're going to do it. Because me serve all what

that is doing with all the people to the

people. And so also is the same. Hugo Chavez that has passed

actually in Venezuela. Venezuela, Tanta people muriending's of the people

lastimated. There's a war very internal, a great insecurity. Well,

to the people are much that all those entities demoniacas. At final of the

countas, Hugo Chavez Mue Chavez had contacts very important and

actually actually, Nicholas Maduro has a Brucho that that's And he cower, for consult,

more than $90,000. What? Yes. And, then, and, then, they pay, and they pay, 3D of him, but

they're the Wessos. Because the Paloma Jombes utilizes the muscles and many

of them in the practices muleen these those, they put in a liquid and they're

to take, and so that's that's that you need that you need, they're

some densas, no? Yeah, or when they're then they want them

then the cenisa, when they they're they're they're right, they're they unto

their inclinations because We don't forget that the santares are justly

of the doctrines and the ideologies African only that can't a santeria

for that into the new Spain not so not they were so that they were

doing and the people they're in Africa then they they're they're

to say they're so for that they're to they're to

continue so that so that so they are so they're that are

a much time back because even Jesus when when

came to the he said it's not a necessary to the

and it's and it's and it's because obviously there was santa when he

was when he was he was there there many

of these of these practices that these practices that

then then there there there a book that

he said that the dictator and his demonios that

scribe this same author David Pleaser that about how Nicholas Maduro is protected

for amuletos but he he's to the India he went to the India in the year

2005 if no me I'm to know to know a leader spiritual

very known of the India that's called Saibaba so

he was he was because materialized joy materialize muletos that

said So, then a Maduro he materialized a new that's still and that they're going

to be in the press and all, so it's it's a unyke or in your indice

is an annillo with a middle. Okay. Maduro wanted the redra

but he said Saibaba, that means that means that's so I'm to do

a little because that's more more to the abundance

no? So, so it not is casuality that over all the

dictators are in looking all this now okay yeah we

know not only was Elvester Gordillo yeah we're okay

presidents and have been people have been in this obviously the

actual leader has in his take in a protest all

a ceremony that really really not is something what

we not something is umi is a protocol ceremonial,

indigen, chamanico, a protection of the people, well, it's much better that if it would be to be able to all the people.

And if she did that practice, it's not to her in the car, how it's not to know,

the bester Gordillo? Right. The car, your, your, your, look,

to know, what is what you practice? For supposed, it's not all, and she,

I see, I see, I know, that I'm saying it's santa because who of here

we're right you know we're we're we're we're we're

we're we're we're definitely not made these practices as

ascures as other people but other example for

that people going is what was in the second

war world with those who were led by

the bigotito the dictator the bigot he he

had his astrologos he had all a study of the occultism. He wanted to create

a man perfect, to the species human perfect, to the race a area. Experimented a form inhuman to. And that was a sacado of the mythology of Atlantida.

He was looking like much references mythologics and all and said Atlantida existed. Because if all that were a

money, because they investen so money in that. Because also the government in that's

went to Tibet to to look more information, to look the santo

grial. Why he was looking all this because there's there

is a question of the price but he doesn't because it's

because it exists and it and it for the part conservable

for the convien for this part that there there not nothing

even Vladimir Putin, if we see we're in Russia, has his brucas, centenaries of bruchas, that are in practices and that are, they're, they're, they're also, and casuallyly it's a much in the power,

not is casuality, because there's a mixle between the political, the movement of the masses, and all what it represents the, to know, the artes occultas, and the

magic. So, for more, for example, that say Donald Trump no does nothing of this, there are sects in where they pertaints in their themselves,

for example, Bohemian Grove, that is a secta that is a descendient Mexican, that is American Mexican,

that is Ryan Garcia, boxiator, he says, I mean, they're doing, I see, all what they're

doing, my life is in a danger because I'm talking of this, in practices very

oscuras and they're communicating with entities very oscura

thanks of those practices that they're doing. And these

sects are many many know what we know

like we know like those sectors with some scientific

philos casually are puros men don't they're not

people because there there there you think what you do you

no well it's to find the knowledge no something that

something we're something we're in the podcast is when we're we're in we're in

times demoniacos if the demonio does act and then the control but

many times the demonio also you do the know the knowledge

that they even I was even I talked with a friend when when we're

we're because he's no I go to enter so you you're

you're going to be great There are levels. There are levels. And me it's a

part of the 16 where yeah they're going, this I think about in a rito Scose where yeah they're going to

addrars in things of occultism and they're talking eventually of a satanism. Not the

satanism that probably much people can't it's more a satanism for some satanism

light philosophic where it's there's the figure dual of the Baphumet

et cetera, et cetera, but yeah we're to a thing a occultist

where obviously in this circle you know there's political presidents

municipalities, deputats et cetera, but always looking the knowledge

that there's in books, the knowledge that not there

not the knowledge that in the moment came from

the because they're part of the fend although you

don't pertens to the Fenty, but it's the knowledge

that they're so I'm always I'm mentioned exactly

of what you mention and it does much fear because

many many times to make that they give

that they give that they have to give us and

here these many these so for for that

they acced to give to give us a favor

And, and, and, and, things very turvias, no? Sometimes, always that we talk about those things, the message as a father, that I'm, is, they're,

they're doing to, even, although it's, I don't know, I mean, they're just, I mean, they're just,

no, no, I don't, just, no, just, no, with a pastor, or with the her man, or with the brother, or with the

man, or with the master, so, so, always, always, he, he, platic,

with them, get a, Confianza, because they're really are people so manipulators that are how to work

with the men's, with the nests, and it's something that we don't we can't do we do

the words when we know, and the phrase that's in this great film, is a business that's

growing a passos aggantados that he rebased the business of the arms

illegals and is to put to rebas the business of the traffic of drugs.

So it's a reality is talking in this podcast normally

we're we're talking stories of the audience but that's a good we've got

to have been about you how you how you do it you know I'm very well

I'm I'm I'm I'm talk about it's like you you say

we're we're going because I'm met to this world paranormal

thinking that the world paranormal is so like being like oh the

bruchery exists there exist those aliens, oh, there's this, but we're giving that all this

co-existent in this same place. We're having a humanity, that is consequence of malas practices and to use the information to

manipulate and for many times to use of the necessity. And I what I say to the people, because I, if

I, I, I, I, I, I'm very, I, I'm also, it's also to try and say to the people, that

there's obscurity. There are deities. There are demonios. There are pactos. But no there's nothing more grand than the love of God. And for so we logamos coincid in this moment. And for that me, I mean, I like to bolt to and that's the crucesitas and all, I go, it's paranormal the issue. But it's that the things are doing well. And for the people, I have a phrase that always I say, that is, that the

light is triumphant and that to the obscurity it's convenient that we'll make it like the more grand, the more turbio, that we're in a time in where

no there's when it's all the contrary, when you're we're seeing, yeah the mask are getting and we're

seeing how it's working and how each one of us we have a connection with that that fencing that's great

because much of what I see me do to God and God me say, Oye,

these people need this way, and I'm a communication in where I've

had been to purification my body, I've had to have to make many

things, to do make more, and me I'm very very well, I'm very well,

and the only is that I'm a very well, and me have passed very well, and I'm

all that's to keep having information and that the person know that that the

information is power and that all is for that we recuperable this power. Many times we're very ingenuous.

We're pacted with deities but that you are more powerful than those deities and that no there's nothing that the amor of God,

you can't repair, resolve and pardoner. What way to terminate this episode? You thank

much, I said a time and then I'll repeat. Thank you for coming to where we're just

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