EXTRA ANORMAL - Brujería, pactos y más experiencias

Episode Date: March 26, 2022

Hola, bienvenido a nuestro tercer capítulo de tu Podcast favorito, EXTRA ANORMAL, en esta ocasión tengo una plática con un viejo amigo sobre temas como la brujería, pactos satánicos y demás expe...riencias tanto familiares como personales, espero lo disfrutes mucho y nos sigas en nuestras redes sociales, nosotros somos Podcast EXTRA ANORMAL 👻💀

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Starting point is 00:01:07 our third capitol of our podcast Extranormal. My name is Pacuarias and you do the thanks for to be listening in this third emission. The day of today me accompany a friend who is a musician,
Starting point is 00:01:19 very talented, a master also with the theme of audio. In fact, we've had many problems of connection. The good IAN. How do you find you?
Starting point is 00:01:27 I'm going to Felice, a little a gourdito I'm happy. I'm I'm a like to say something new
Starting point is 00:01:35 for me because no I've been trying to try and I'm trying to do one but no
Starting point is 00:01:39 no no I'm never the no but now so now so we
Starting point is 00:01:43 see what we're so well right we're right we're we're
Starting point is 00:01:47 we're very sonated and the really here in mexico with the thing
Starting point is 00:01:51 with the thing of so so I so I think here Mexico's much in
Starting point is 00:01:58 what is Latin America the theme of the bruchos the marries the famous amarrs
Starting point is 00:02:03 of the that you're with sultanita with suttanita then there there a case
Starting point is 00:02:11 that I before you I want to tell you to be a point of a point of a case
Starting point is 00:02:16 was a case that's a she was a woman she's of Venezuela Nellie
Starting point is 00:02:23 she called this chica the time is viral because in the 2019. The story is that she was that she was a girl of 15 years.
Starting point is 00:02:33 This muchacha started with a kid and at the few days that she starts with the child she makes of a friend with another muchache
Starting point is 00:02:43 mysterious. Simply the woman she was her and she was she was a little bit of an innocent for so
Starting point is 00:02:49 to say not he no he was she did like malice and he he prinded his
Starting point is 00:02:54 the detail is that at the days This, this muchach, she begins to delgazard, she begins to put very delgated,
Starting point is 00:03:02 very enfermisa. They say the, the people and his parents, over all, that they were brought to the doctor
Starting point is 00:03:08 and not they detected any other but she was her state to get very grave. To not
Starting point is 00:03:15 accept the long, this muchach a lot of the day and the people started to speculate
Starting point is 00:03:21 that was the druggeria because medically they had nothing they were not. They were in the
Starting point is 00:03:25 studios and all normal, no they'd to what was to their delgiveness,
Starting point is 00:03:30 no they'd to be that's a change physical, even many people
Starting point is 00:03:34 said that was a different that was a little aggressive, was very
Starting point is 00:03:40 enogna and many things started to speculate. The friend a few
Starting point is 00:03:45 times because she declared that she she did her he did literally,
Starting point is 00:03:52 she let she let he was a person, he's acerco to her because, as with the chico
Starting point is 00:03:56 with the guy with the he started was the ex of the woman and the man she was a lot of
Starting point is 00:04:04 and she gets to give to give, for example, his comidats to make for example rest of osios
Starting point is 00:04:10 of the vessel, of a panteon, and this was affecting her now so now
Starting point is 00:04:16 so letinam until a point where she pierde the life. She for
Starting point is 00:04:21 culpability she declared culpable, says what he is what he is, but as
Starting point is 00:04:27 there's a law that you do not you call for homicide for having done
Starting point is 00:04:32 a work or esoterism or something or something something that was a story very sonated
Starting point is 00:04:41 because as it was Venezuela and here like Latin America so
Starting point is 00:04:44 move much that this time civilized much even even said
Starting point is 00:04:47 that the much they they were they were they were they were they were
Starting point is 00:04:51 trying to exorcism to a type of liberation, but the muchachia no, no bring effect. Basically, the young woman and the, the
Starting point is 00:05:01 amiga is declared culpable and he says all the, what he iso. So, I don't know how you see that story. Well, you know, we're going to
Starting point is 00:05:09 get a program called Relato, Zupéke, well, the page with my friend of Miguel Torrey, Milan,
Starting point is 00:05:15 we've made a salute there to the Cawos. You're listening. Yeah, you're doing. We're doing
Starting point is 00:05:21 investigation of camp, because we don't want to let us to get us to the world paranormal, without in what we're into, because no you can't
Starting point is 00:05:28 get into a place, no, because if there's a consequence. It has consequences. But during our sandares we've discovered
Starting point is 00:05:36 that also there's much charlatan. Here in Mexico there's a much that's people that is credula to
Starting point is 00:05:42 these questions. But of that exists the bad, there to how me you put in you and me you're
Starting point is 00:05:48 to put us and We've been a venerament, but also a case strange, no, that no, the doctors not detects, no, the doctors not detects no, the doctors, they did a study of the urine, those fecales, never did really with what he was attacking their health. Yeah, no, and that's what
Starting point is 00:06:06 complicated, and a lot of times, it's a disgusting, the gastral, no, because too, no, for example, here in Mexico is a lot of the famous secure social, if you have, and the The Secure Popular Yeah, no, yeah not is,
Starting point is 00:06:19 because it was not even not even popular. No, I don't know any secure socialistic
Starting point is 00:06:23 No, no, no, but I'm sorry. Here you know, let's say, a manasana. Licenseia,
Starting point is 00:06:28 this, the Ove-Mahel. Fiatte that, well, I've seen, I've seen,
Starting point is 00:06:35 I've been to talk palpals, ver those to see them to see there's and there
Starting point is 00:06:39 sometimes that they are a psychological because there people that say the
Starting point is 00:06:47 The depression is very very very very very The depression We're going to We're going to
Starting point is 00:06:51 We're going to We're going to I'm saying I've seen I've seen I've seen And I'm I'm going to
Starting point is 00:06:57 Oh, yes, but there But there are cases where there are ones that there are
Starting point is 00:07:02 on the radio or X Brujo let's put the brothers of Odin that come that come
Starting point is 00:07:10 that come that come and they're and they they're a marre you have done
Starting point is 00:07:16 you don't give the money come with us and we're we're doing some little
Starting point is 00:07:21 some of the I'm let's I'm don't create so on this first they
Starting point is 00:07:26 have to first your situation psychological first of the so situation in habits
Starting point is 00:07:32 and those things different those habits how how live and
Starting point is 00:07:37 those how they live and so that's so that's all it's all it's all
Starting point is 00:07:43 is it's going to the partada And that's, not normal, because, figure, that from a time for a car, I was still, and, of the moment, because, no more, no more, no,
Starting point is 00:07:52 it's not, or the state of the animal, or, if, they're just, the way of the eye, is, how do you know, is, how do you know, pass, me, it's seen, the mal of-o-o-o-o-do, the famous mal-de-o-o-de-cate-to-un-webo,
Starting point is 00:08:08 for that, this, you know, and it was in a chascarillo, but right not. To be the, this is more, to the babies. The baby's, well, the term is the innocence. The innocence no has been malicia, but the mirrored as, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I've got the mal experience of that my neneen has a seguile. Characteristic I'm a Mormon, I don't believe in this, because we're at nacear, at the 40 days, we're presentable and we're presentable and
Starting point is 00:08:37 we're doing the benficion patriarch, and all right. No, no, we're We're preoccupied for that, that's famous Ojo of Bevenado and all. But a
Starting point is 00:08:48 day, a person to have your uncommoded, inquietta, a nena a little and a little
Starting point is 00:08:56 she's rye, she'll be to go ahead with all, to all, to all. To all, yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:00 but I've said, there's that there's envidiosa, no, or simply me say
Starting point is 00:09:05 that too, simply, to want, simply, to want to just to bring to be
Starting point is 00:09:07 to be No, I think. No, I'd say, my husband. Trasemme, a a little of albaca, and the gerbita, not the first rubble is the mom. The first rubble is the mom.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Like art of magic, they're limping the web. In a minute, me, yeah, they're cleaning the egg. And I said, you know, a little bit. A little bit
Starting point is 00:09:33 that I had done so before of. Yes, and then it's the gullito. Ah, carie. This is rare. I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:40 Intenten it, you If you're Even being Adults, you know, I'm taking a Pastilla, me don't
Starting point is 00:09:47 the head of the Well, first of the doctor, no, but not it's not too, but it's not
Starting point is 00:09:52 time, if you know, if you've been in the car of the stress, all is all all that's all
Starting point is 00:09:59 a bit of a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, with the time I've learned to
Starting point is 00:10:03 interpretate the webos that here here here here's the here's the eye here
Starting point is 00:10:06 here's he's he's he quit he an angelito. No man, yeah. It's a thing that is, not true, I mean, it's not
Starting point is 00:10:14 true, you know, it's, you know, you're putting to look at the Bible, where is, how, how are these things? There's where a person an Anastika, me says, that's more Darwinist than, is, spiritual? I said, if there's
Starting point is 00:10:28 the bad energies, man. When a baby is a cargid of energy, I'm going to explain to that the energy, and that the webito is a receptor of a like a man.
Starting point is 00:10:37 but lego is that if if it's that's a mass of energy that's a
Starting point is 00:10:44 trap no, and when I'm there's a tithe statica. Well, at the
Starting point is 00:10:49 final of the little bit is another other ser innocent that cure another innocent
Starting point is 00:10:54 and then and then there part that that's a little in the bourgeria
Starting point is 00:10:59 I don't see how you know the fact there's there there there's a
Starting point is 00:11:03 story of a person who will get to my family to her
Starting point is 00:11:06 I'm going to count. This person wanted to make a pact with the devil. That person
Starting point is 00:11:12 was a person very well accommodated and when I said was a cargo political
Starting point is 00:11:17 here in our city that person I don't see if you remember the period of Salvador
Starting point is 00:11:23 Santo Sierra I don't live here but well it has probably
Starting point is 00:11:29 about almost 16 years and this person my family had a
Starting point is 00:11:33 family had a anecdotas. He he, standing in the political, he was very well, he was, all the whatever he would have queried, no? Diner. He had
Starting point is 00:11:46 women, had his wife, his his wife, but... But he wanted more, he had more, he had more, had more, he had more, he then he, he doesn't his period, and he not gets into the new plantia. And his good life
Starting point is 00:12:00 is to go, he was a person who gave a recourse, so, So, he did of much money and he could give to
Starting point is 00:12:08 get to where he wanted he wanted he wanted. So when he's going to
Starting point is 00:12:13 go to get to go back and now now, now, so now, he's
Starting point is 00:12:19 a costum to the good, when no I know I know to do that.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Tantto was that he was he was to be to spend to spend his
Starting point is 00:12:28 things to get to get to get to be many many
Starting point is 00:12:34 Do you do a fear. For ebola. And, and so, because he gave a regalito, well, nothing
Starting point is 00:12:38 barat. I mean, he'd of gold, and infinity of things. Viages, over all.
Starting point is 00:12:44 So, this person us tells that in his desperation, he decided to make a
Starting point is 00:12:49 a pact with Satanas. And here, in Mexico, especially in Veracruz, there's a place that's
Starting point is 00:12:57 famous, both internally and the name Katemak. I've heard of Catamax.
Starting point is 00:13:04 dad of the brushoes. So this person knows that he has been mentalized that if if there was a
Starting point is 00:13:11 he was the power that he was to make the presidency but he was for the money,
Starting point is 00:13:17 no? He only only had a cargo with with the president
Starting point is 00:13:21 of that and he he was he was he went and those he said a day
Starting point is 00:13:29 so many years that he he was directly to the carterer of Katamako
Starting point is 00:13:34 and that while I was manhaling he was going to say that a one side of the carreterer
Starting point is 00:13:41 I go a spectro so I was only and I was a spectro that was there was
Starting point is 00:13:47 a figure a humanoid but had the face disfigurated that he was looking
Starting point is 00:13:53 and he he was soenry then then then a a like
Starting point is 00:13:57 a a kilometer there there there practically was nothing
Starting point is 00:14:00 of more to suffer a accident automobilistic he says that he
Starting point is 00:14:05 he says he back he goes he says he he goes to he had never to suffer this accident to him
Starting point is 00:14:12 he had been a little special the fact I don't know what I know but he he says he's
Starting point is 00:14:18 before getting to the city there's like a little disviation and he they gave some instructions
Starting point is 00:14:24 that he before to get to the city he was to disviars not so how many
Starting point is 00:14:28 he would to get the he was to continue his He came to a foot, I think another kilometer more, to be up, like if
Starting point is 00:14:35 were to a serro. He said that the coach he left over the carreterer in the Camelon, as he said,
Starting point is 00:14:41 and he continued his way. At the getting, he was a little point of a little he went to
Starting point is 00:14:50 a little cabna, a, a coveh, a coveh, and there a man with a tunica
Starting point is 00:14:56 black, and he said, we're we're waiting. Wow And he He said
Starting point is 00:15:06 What? How do you know How you know How you know this? And how you know This is the other He said We're just waiting
Starting point is 00:15:16 We're waiting He's waiting He says Who? You know who? You know who? You know? He's waiting
Starting point is 00:15:25 And he He enters He enter And he says That's a Cueva, where no so absolutely
Starting point is 00:15:32 nothing, but it's a voice clear, clara, and he said,
Starting point is 00:15:37 yeah, yeah, what you know, even I'm to make to you're to be
Starting point is 00:15:42 to be to get to get to you're to get to you're to get us to
Starting point is 00:15:47 and he was where you know, like one starts to doubt no, of that
Starting point is 00:15:54 that's real, because as you say there's many challatans and
Starting point is 00:15:58 he said it's much coincid the carreterer, I came a kilometer at a foot, I'll be that so forth
Starting point is 00:16:04 so, I'm like, I'm like, he's like, he, I'm sending a WhatsApp, no? Yeah, yeah, in that sense not so. It's not, it was, it's not so much, in this then, and he said, yeah, see what you're going to do, and you'll give. But,
Starting point is 00:16:19 there was a rarer, he paid a summa monetary to Alca, and he said, well, he's, well, he, for that he wants, but he said, well, no, no, it's Well, no, it's important. He said, you know, I have what you're
Starting point is 00:16:30 asking, I'm going to to leave the middle. I'll wait. In a week, he said, I suppose that was that he was satanass. He's going to be. And he's going. He said that in
Starting point is 00:16:43 when they were to go to give the other a minute, because no, no, not so he said, this ser, he started to give, to do you to give proof of my power. You're going to go?
Starting point is 00:16:55 You're going, and you're going to start to see how I I'm going to influing over your and you go to
Starting point is 00:16:59 start he's a he's he's a credit of the debit where he paid him
Starting point is 00:17:05 and he went to Chedrawe always that Chedraway always there's there's
Starting point is 00:17:09 and the bato and he makes the the and says no chinges
Starting point is 00:17:16 boy I've I've many I don't I think I said if I
Starting point is 00:17:21 could in this moment I could I could I could
Starting point is 00:17:24 I could quantity was a yeah I was it was a must be the
Starting point is 00:17:29 but you can't talk until that you yeah so it was so it
Starting point is 00:17:36 was a fact it and many things as to make you know to change
Starting point is 00:17:41 to change and he started to get to she he started her
Starting point is 00:17:45 and the women that they've started to they're so it
Starting point is 00:17:49 was something like like for art of magic
Starting point is 00:17:51 I did so so this person says that that was a problem
Starting point is 00:17:57 very contundant to him to get a other part and have all what he was to have. But
Starting point is 00:18:03 his his wife to say that was that was that he was a rare
Starting point is 00:18:09 that he had he had he was of a death and he's he said
Starting point is 00:18:17 no, no, no, no, the woman not, the woman, not said
Starting point is 00:18:20 the woman, not and I began to say cutte much, you've
Starting point is 00:18:24 I've seened so she's I've seen here She's like to presentive Well, the future of him, that he was
Starting point is 00:18:30 He was to die of a murder very tragic and he And it's all this month
Starting point is 00:18:34 I think the she was praying for him I don't what was going to but he
Starting point is 00:18:40 he started he began to repent to that he was he had he had a middle
Starting point is 00:18:45 he had a little he was he was the ambition he said no no
Starting point is 00:18:51 if you're a mother I'm I I got the money, he did a prestom, without bronches, the regress, I'll pay.
Starting point is 00:18:57 So, the bato, junta the other part and parted to his destiny. Another again, he'll see that spectro in the
Starting point is 00:19:06 way, and again, he makes accidentars, but this this time the auto, if he's turned, he
Starting point is 00:19:12 gets, he got, with the lights to be up to die, and he said, and
Starting point is 00:19:20 he said, a mangerer that he was coming he was he was he was he was
Starting point is 00:19:25 he was he took he said no do you he said he's he said
Starting point is 00:19:33 what you he's what you say he he said he said he said you know
Starting point is 00:19:39 you know what you do you do you and me they said to me they said
Starting point is 00:19:46 he took that like a like a like a signal divin so
Starting point is 00:19:49 so you want but he he his trat. Because it was much coincidences also that he said, I mean, he said, he could
Starting point is 00:19:58 have been a lot of, but this person pass and he said, no, do you know, do you. So, it's, they're not, his wife, then, this. The case is that he's not complete the trato. Yeah no, it was, he went to go back, and all the beautiful that was,
Starting point is 00:20:14 he disappeared. I mean, to tell you, I'm not, that the people, they'd have to be able to talk. The money, yeah no stuff. He went to the bank, and they said, oh, yes, you know, is that, that there's millions of pesos and in the bank they said you know
Starting point is 00:20:26 he's not we've got to we've got a we've got your how do you know the state of account of the story of the
Starting point is 00:20:32 creditio no no is that how it's possible I mean I don't there's but that
Starting point is 00:20:38 was the story that person how you it's incredible it's incredible he doesn't believe not only that
Starting point is 00:20:44 only can't not only it's a realidic because I think it's a person that was a person that was
Starting point is 00:20:50 my family, almost many years, and we, we saw, we've seen, we've got a car,
Starting point is 00:20:56 a car, he had a good, to get a first, he's going to back and the fact, and,
Starting point is 00:21:03 the fact, that's a really, that I, I mean, me, me, me,
Starting point is 00:21:06 me, more than, well, there's, it was moved for the mission, and the
Starting point is 00:21:10 mission is one of those, is a call to be a one of the seven pecats,
Starting point is 00:21:17 but I, the church Catholic, capitals. The capitals. But I've got to the Bible and no exist in those Pecados.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Just you say, um, how to live, how, um, how, um, how, um,
Starting point is 00:21:29 go right, in the 5, in the way, how live, what eat, what do you do, but not do you know,
Starting point is 00:21:36 not do you know, do you know, do you know, so, the pecality, so, how do you say, no,
Starting point is 00:21:40 no, no, there's like, it's like, it's in character, in religion, we're talking, we're talking
Starting point is 00:21:45 generally, we're talking, generally to come in the Bible, of many, many,
Starting point is 00:21:48 many people with faith. Yeah, I do know agnosticately. In this is understood, I have an analysis of the people, so I see, from their gesticulation, in the form of immigar, zapatos, roba.
Starting point is 00:22:01 All right. Because, well, the life has led to situations where you can, we can, we're doing this. No, I'm sorry. Well,
Starting point is 00:22:10 just a little. I'm going to study psychology and I'm to learn books of human and all this. I want to know more of the people. I don't want to
Starting point is 00:22:18 to know how clinical, but what's the day there's a lot. There's where I said I'm this, that's the come's the
Starting point is 00:22:24 water of this of Guasamamaya the liquid of Papa Antonio and that you have to change his
Starting point is 00:22:29 life, not you know if you have problems of health are the specialist.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Desgraciously we're not we're prepared to receive a man of the pyras
Starting point is 00:22:40 in the rinion that you have you a kister can't I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:22:44 a man a brygononon but barrigonon Disgraciously It was very credul of The brujuries and the tombs That I don't know that are bad
Starting point is 00:22:55 There are things that are They curate the arboraria Because there's There's a medicine And there are people And there are very savvy But How you're going to say
Starting point is 00:23:03 You can't With cirrhosis Can't come With a time That's impossible You have to take A treatment A medicament
Starting point is 00:23:10 And a transplant Of ligado And there is The next Relato The person That's a For America's
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Starting point is 00:23:57 We're talking, we're talking, that's almost an adolescent, a young. No, man. That's the operations, complicated, and proceedings chiroin. Yeah, more than five times, you know, is a cabron. And, well, right, the reds social is to what they do, no? You know, to help, come a company. With his oration, with his live, no piety on the publication, help me tell the story that he came to the
Starting point is 00:24:23 Mr. He said to the person who's the least He said, but he's always one of the people who are, I say, but I'm not saying, but I'm not going to be, I'm going to stay my tantal, you know, all this, you know, all this is, well, and he says, is that, boy, my family is my family is very grave, and that you can't support. He knows that no has no, I don't know, no, I don't, position. With your
Starting point is 00:24:47 oration, with your your more, I need that your prayers that's my family
Starting point is 00:24:53 do. What? The only that did, there's people that people
Starting point is 00:25:01 that are a gallina a negro, that's you're talking to a conchour? That's
Starting point is 00:25:07 a pony, no? Or an unicornio pony negro. Pidens things that at the
Starting point is 00:25:13 moment they say, no, no, I'm going to cover after that's the
Starting point is 00:25:15 that's typical of all the all the charlaparmen no, not you don't you
Starting point is 00:25:20 know, I don't you know to get the job. It's obvious that all the people
Starting point is 00:25:25 have been because they're a problem. And the problem that you have a
Starting point is 00:25:27 problem. Yes, I think a problem the I think, you think. You know
Starting point is 00:25:33 do you don't know because the problem. Sure. You have been you've got
Starting point is 00:25:36 to have problems of stomach. Well, the stress generate problems problems
Starting point is 00:25:40 of women, women, and even manch, there's people that get to get up to erpes, for the same stress.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And there are people who are like to start, no? Meten and they get them, and get you, you know, you have a family,
Starting point is 00:25:55 and you're in the morning, like that's my prime, is my prima, is my prima, is my prima, yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:58 one of mentalizing and giving up these people. This person just said, let me say, give me the number
Starting point is 00:26:06 complete, and yeah. Just the number? No, man, yeah, just, Well, the the other man, the other man, he said, no, he's the other man, and he said, no, man, he said the name.
Starting point is 00:26:20 So, I need his name. Oh, man. And from there we're going to partier, of the other thing that we'll talk. Nothing more, he allowed to the two persons that parted the same faith. You know what? Necessito that you need to be it in your altar?
Starting point is 00:26:39 For that person? For that person, no? And, um, and, um, yes? Give us a number complete He gave the name Without malice
Starting point is 00:26:47 Without What I can Say? Without No, because no Gannable Because no
Starting point is 00:26:52 Gannable In this He said He said He was in Vellation And the Offrenda
Starting point is 00:27:01 That they put They were An oration One time One semana One semana The Aveling
Starting point is 00:27:08 The valation of What they They put Inoffending Oh okay The He said that's... It's...
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Starting point is 00:27:51 I'm saying For this person Because I I've I've I've been I'm
Starting point is 00:27:53 He said When he's He's He's been to mark to make to make him
Starting point is 00:28:01 He's How's your family You're You're You're Oh, Oh, my
Starting point is 00:28:05 He's I'm Because I don't They're They're They're No man
Starting point is 00:28:09 No, there is caro I don't I don't worry So, all right, all right, all right, You don't have faith You don't know, you don't pierced the faith Yeah, if you don't feel like that, I'm sure You don't get a faith in God
Starting point is 00:28:30 When they're in the plenna, when they were in the Pletka, wait, wait, wait, I'm going to I'm going to call out, I'm going to get to Medicament Oh, man, yeah, yeah? attendee and colo. In that present moment he was getting a medication that I had not had. Actually,
Starting point is 00:28:45 now are recuperating to his family. Yeah, it's already. He cured. No, man. Yeah, well, so, are two religions different, both, I mean, not is the
Starting point is 00:28:56 same religion. And, and, of course, that no, he was to say, who he's happy with that his friend is still, and that's the other two persons also said, they're saying, that's a chingon,
Starting point is 00:29:08 if we don't it's we're talking we're talking we're talking about no manch of the murder of the
Starting point is 00:29:15 manned well the senior mother, or a new the young like as many
Starting point is 00:29:19 like they many like they they say so yeah and and
Starting point is 00:29:22 well actually actually well if it's something a day me
Starting point is 00:29:29 they're in a man in a year in a yeah that you didn't
Starting point is 00:29:33 do you for me for me for the What you know, are you know, some seven kilometers, more than... Ah, but, sorry, but it's true, that we're not in Nigeria. Yeah, more than seven kilometers, but I'm going to go to city, but it's a little complicated to the traffic, and
Starting point is 00:29:48 you'll say, because there's a motor, without lights? No, man, sure. The night, that you like, 11th of the night, in a moment where the city of Tuske, here where I live, it's been very violent, or, for the most that's so, so it was in the media, because it was, it was a few. So, no, we'd have to be to get to get a force. And these people say, You bettanky, my flaca, it's that I don't have luses and no
Starting point is 00:30:17 I don't have free, so, so, so, if I'm agharmes, but... So, I mean, I was going to, I mean, with them. She's not going to go to the taillard? You're going to get? Ah, and I penexed with you all right, to end up. No, the night's tetraic, obscure, and tenebrosa. My spouse, embarrassed. me
Starting point is 00:30:36 my my my my name let me make you never make a
Starting point is 00:30:41 man I'm I'm sorry I'm sure because I'm sure because to jurors
Starting point is 00:30:46 no not I'm not sure but I can assure that the trom
Starting point is 00:30:52 of the Casas Geo to Moises science had light was
Starting point is 00:30:57 was was was that was that's not not seen well
Starting point is 00:31:01 rare of sometimes I've seen was had preended. Days anterior
Starting point is 00:31:05 no there's no all the well as all right to get to
Starting point is 00:31:09 get to get to go tostead so rome so rumbo
Starting point is 00:31:12 to the progress or rombal there no there there is
Starting point is 00:31:16 there there is when you go the curve of the yeah so
Starting point is 00:31:20 so you is where they even they're so so there
Starting point is 00:31:22 there there there there we're we we're we
Starting point is 00:31:26 we we're we we there there yeah we
Starting point is 00:31:30 and I was and We went, we said, let me say, we've gothounned a little, let me get us and we'd be able to
Starting point is 00:31:38 like if you were like the 6th of the time, we'd be, we're just, without fear of that we're from here,
Starting point is 00:31:45 and I said, what will be the problem? The tramo of four canes to the limas too, it's too, it's
Starting point is 00:31:52 true, me consta. And then in those times it it was just to gover and it was razzalosa to the
Starting point is 00:31:57 carterter, I was thinking if I was was very nervouso the the trajectory all this tramo. Passed
Starting point is 00:32:04 in the center. In the center no, there was impressionate that it was like a week. No, and a end of a
Starting point is 00:32:13 car. Oh, yeah, normally you'd pass motor suspicious. Yeah, no, this
Starting point is 00:32:18 trom is very very concurried for the quantity of people who live in both of the castillo
Starting point is 00:32:24 to not to risk, no, no, let's go the normal, leo, but what I
Starting point is 00:32:27 don't try for you, I'm trying, I'm normal, me I was normal. Well, no, the
Starting point is 00:32:32 freno me agarrabba exquisitely well, I'm sure. I'm a motet that's a momitio
Starting point is 00:32:38 that's my company of the adventures. Yeah, me tirro one but I still care
Starting point is 00:32:41 getting. Yeah, to what is the security, I'm going to go to more more of the
Starting point is 00:32:48 accotament of the bicyclets. I'm doing the security of my wife and my
Starting point is 00:32:52 baby and my baby and my wife when my wife when you get to four
Starting point is 00:32:57 camions another milagro. There was all that boulevard. No, to get
Starting point is 00:33:04 to my house, there's our life. We've got to m'am, you have
Starting point is 00:33:08 seen? There's there. And me said, my comadre that I was
Starting point is 00:33:15 to be there. So, that no me preoccupate. I you,
Starting point is 00:33:19 I'm sure that the tram that's recorre in a motor, so
Starting point is 00:33:23 seven kilometers, are 20 minutes. Despacito, so that's pass. I
Starting point is 00:33:29 I got 11.15 of the house of my comadre. I got 11.20. My god. Molasted. But if we
Starting point is 00:33:38 didn't we didn't very long. And even even if they were to have to eat a lot of life.
Starting point is 00:33:44 So there are things that don't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, there's there's
Starting point is 00:33:48 that they're there's there's respect. Yeah, well, I, so, I,
Starting point is 00:33:51 so, I respect all the, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:33:53 the religions and experience that us that that security not to
Starting point is 00:34:02 think in what we're in I don't critiquing any other religion there are people who
Starting point is 00:34:07 are people of the murder of the Muda of X or Y and well you they're
Starting point is 00:34:16 they're people they're in what they're they're I think we think we all we think
Starting point is 00:34:21 we're we're we're like we're we're like you know we're And,
Starting point is 00:34:28 and, uh, here in Latin America there's much of people that rende much cults
Starting point is 00:34:34 for example to what is the, the Virgin Maria. Yeah, and so is,
Starting point is 00:34:39 and there's there's, uh, anales where you can't get information. A lot of
Starting point is 00:34:44 people, or for, or for blockarce to learn, I think, I was one of the persons
Starting point is 00:34:49 that you block you to not, to not investigate, to not investigate, to and there
Starting point is 00:34:54 is to you know I don't want to to be more because every that's the more I'm
Starting point is 00:34:58 no way no you. No, there's to know to do it with a no
Starting point is 00:35:01 no, we're to get to get for for Juanito for Chianito
Starting point is 00:35:06 because everyone they're a kind of to do you but
Starting point is 00:35:09 you have to occupy the that you do that
Starting point is 00:35:12 in this world that's called the black I'm topado
Starting point is 00:35:16 with a druggeria that is real is letal and
Starting point is 00:35:21 still not not I've not I've been said that it's more
Starting point is 00:35:26 they know it by here in Mexico or if they know some and it's a yoruba is a really a
Starting point is 00:35:34 fruhrie firt you're doing a internet where is that's it's of it's of it one of me
Starting point is 00:35:43 one of me said a Christiano one of no says you remember a no sign a tumble a
Starting point is 00:35:47 a catastrophe a in in Brazil in Chile in Chile temble I don't know,
Starting point is 00:35:55 and me people, ah, because this, temble here, temble here, and he agarren, me says he, in his son
Starting point is 00:36:03 no, a person Christian, is a pastor, and me says, how not going to pass things?
Starting point is 00:36:08 So, in the Bible says that the of God are the person, that no,
Starting point is 00:36:12 that I do that's the law, and I remember that feches anterior to that
Starting point is 00:36:16 cism, that there was a bit of the aborto. The law of the law, and there
Starting point is 00:36:23 two pecados that we mention to the Bible in in any Bible in the version of the Ray David, the version of
Starting point is 00:36:28 the Sumerius that there are two that are two because not two. And no there's a
Starting point is 00:36:35 word of it. It's derraming of the blood inoscent and negation of the
Starting point is 00:36:40 spirit. Exactly. None more those two two pecas, you can't to give you
Starting point is 00:36:45 give us to give you do you do you YouTube, too, I'm not I'm doing a message religious, but if I'm doing, I'm sharing, I'm
Starting point is 00:36:57 and I'm parted my testimony. Of that I'm there in Fuerra, well, I think in Aitie, also happened a lot of
Starting point is 00:37:03 What do you say that's called? Yoruba. Yoruba. She's the I'm going to look to. It's,
Starting point is 00:37:08 that's right, in Haiti, and it's, and it's of many places, but this is from the continent of African,
Starting point is 00:37:16 so it's to pass to Latin America, and there he via Cuba, then just, just that just that's
Starting point is 00:37:21 that's of that's of Africa, way, no, if there's where bestia is, it's it's, it's, the origin, no? Yeah, there's where, the origin, where
Starting point is 00:37:29 there's part of a ramita of what is voodoo. There you say, oh, no, manches. There's a, there's a movie that I'm going to complete, say, me the art of the devil. Be it, no, you're going to
Starting point is 00:37:39 want to be it at the middle, because, if it's, you're not, of what grotesco that is, and the thing, of what it's so, so, it's very, is very explicit.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I remember to the movie of the Holocaust cannibal. No, it's a It's a peer. Net. It's a
Starting point is 00:37:53 peor. I've been the of the two and three. Lookenla to see it's the internet.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I don't see that another way that's a grotesque but this of the art of the
Starting point is 00:38:02 diablo. Ah, so my respect eh. If you get a so, it's a suspense
Starting point is 00:38:07 is brusheria and spiritual santeria. At final no, maybe let me let me let me let me look at
Starting point is 00:38:15 because no if you let's say no I'm a one a one
Starting point is 00:38:21 contain, I don't know if it's out, and I don't know in what it's in the way of it. Ah, yeah, I want to
Starting point is 00:38:28 see, I'm saying that it's very pretty, but, they've said that's of various
Starting point is 00:38:33 films, then it's something like that's a no, this is, the fact,
Starting point is 00:38:38 I've seen much malddad in the world. It's a much of many things
Starting point is 00:38:44 of the many of many people and I'm too, but this movie even
Starting point is 00:38:49 they put and you don't I don't like. Yes, yeah. No, Anx.
Starting point is 00:38:52 It's like very many people want to like to see that in a movie that's
Starting point is 00:38:59 very grotesque. So, so, well, some things, not, are, they're going
Starting point is 00:39:05 to learn to play with the bloggeria because it's easy to get a
Starting point is 00:39:11 liston, a photo, a veil. I have a friend to say, I'll send a salood
Starting point is 00:39:15 to Chikik Charlie, I concuer for his form to not in
Starting point is 00:39:19 all, but is very ethically, very, very, very, very, very, very proper. He lived in Katemako, and he said, no, take care, because you're going to be a brugheria. What will say, what perjury? A-pergeria, let's see. A lot. Let's see his photo, ah, yeah? A bit, what, what I'm going to be able to pass? No, I don't know, so I'm going to be able to enter my
Starting point is 00:39:42 tierra, man, man. And if, he, I'm going to say, he can't to be a testimony of that he is a little bit of a child I'm sorry that I'm sorry that part no but if I've been intended to be a brugheria we've been trying to explain that there are things that can't
Starting point is 00:40:00 explain and he's a woman a music but also it's a little more philosophical he likes to learn also there's there's certain charlars that we have with him and are
Starting point is 00:40:11 profound because no that not are, neither music, nor of politics, but we're that we
Starting point is 00:40:16 transport us to the thing, we're in we're and we're saying, ah,
Starting point is 00:40:21 I have the response to say, I've got the response. No, that's,
Starting point is 00:40:25 for example, right, it's done much the order of the change of the , that the
Starting point is 00:40:32 vaccine and the other vaccine and the other vaccine, the other the second. Well, if we're
Starting point is 00:40:38 to think in the first pandemic that was the Peste Negra. Like,
Starting point is 00:40:42 It was all the same. It was more apocalyptic, it's more... Yeah, well, it's that
Starting point is 00:40:49 in this then the clero, no, all the people controlled, no,
Starting point is 00:40:54 not had so albedrio, Librae as well, right, so for the things of the internet
Starting point is 00:40:59 and we're we're connected, and it was a little more more than that the people
Starting point is 00:41:03 cregierer things like the things, things, and gawas with creer with
Starting point is 00:41:09 whatever things, yeah exists. The bruskerian, not I'm saying that no exists, because there is a case that I'd say, and no, he no, and no, they'd nominaries bruchos blank, no?
Starting point is 00:41:20 That's what I'm, but I'm saying, but I'm doing it, because I don't considerer a broujo-blank, but what that's not the term, he only did some a job, a petition, it's more, and he's not, he's not, he's he, no, I just, say, ah, salem, give me your name, no, no,
Starting point is 00:41:35 no, no, he said, no, he's, that a bela, that if, they need a bellita to help out of the house when you go to the light, what's what is what you're
Starting point is 00:41:43 very, very sadio like Confucius. And there are people who they're going to pay to a coach.
Starting point is 00:41:49 No, is that we get us in the chat, tanneria. Andal, that's, that's,
Starting point is 00:41:54 even. Inclus, you, as you, as I'm to put to analyze, the persons
Starting point is 00:41:59 ventajososas, there have experience, there have experience, there are people who have experienced, and they say,
Starting point is 00:42:04 no, but if they say, but, I'll take a profit of this. I'm going to say to
Starting point is 00:42:08 say it I'm to say it is the usual, no, here of you start
Starting point is 00:42:12 to get to get them to get in information and say, oh, yes, certain.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And she has there's a marre but psychological but there but there things that can't
Starting point is 00:42:23 explain, for example this case that's this case that I think you there's a other
Starting point is 00:42:27 case also where where this was this era of abundance and one they said
Starting point is 00:42:33 the man the man the man broo he said he didn't
Starting point is 00:42:38 he didn't he he didn't literally the no he had a
Starting point is 00:42:43 job that's he not he he he he he not
Starting point is 00:42:47 he had good he had good but for more that he didn't
Starting point is 00:42:52 he was he was he was he didn't know
Starting point is 00:42:57 that his mother abortable before before after she turned
Starting point is 00:43:01 the mother for for embarazars but But one that she's liberated
Starting point is 00:43:06 And then she delivered of her The life He changed When she He gave to Yeah, And he
Starting point is 00:43:12 He said a person Saviour In the He said His maldiction That she She'll Compartee
Starting point is 00:43:20 Compte With you Like you Like they They'll You know And one One ever
Starting point is 00:43:25 And he said That's That's where That's That's When You were When you
Starting point is 00:43:31 You're You're You're You're When you You're You're with me
Starting point is 00:43:36 when I kept without you know I'm there's I'm I'm sure
Starting point is 00:43:42 I'm do you know I'm too you're in back back to go to go to
Starting point is 00:43:47 yeah no manches yeah well now now so now so
Starting point is 00:43:51 not it's so the net are things and I you let's
Starting point is 00:43:55 I can say that if you know they not they don't because
Starting point is 00:43:58 to play with the good you can't you can't you can can
Starting point is 00:44:02 can be damaged. Some things that I also personally to say
Starting point is 00:44:08 that's the anecdote that I'm really quite, cream me that's really and it's
Starting point is 00:44:14 something. My family knows that that's the case of that I'd do you know,
Starting point is 00:44:20 I don't if you want to say I'm saying I'm to say to all
Starting point is 00:44:25 to the auditorio I'm I'm hopefully also to do podcast
Starting point is 00:44:27 he he has he has well for those you know they
Starting point is 00:44:33 we say that they're in this moment will appear the radio social and is a person that's a person to get a
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Starting point is 00:44:44 to the but being music is this rich because we make production
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Starting point is 00:44:55 to make a musician and that we're a group musical it's called
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Starting point is 00:45:26 I'm And show And And In Instagram Like Ian Cortes
Starting point is 00:45:32 Bote In YouTube, also you can find some of our videos, the work we do, as musicians. We like the Cumbia Colombian. Oh, yeah, yeah. We're one of the exponents of the Cumbia Colombian in Tuxpe. Colombian, Colombian, we're talking to Aniseto-Molina, Elisandro Mesa,
Starting point is 00:45:46 Oh, yeah. Colombian of the heart. Alberto Barros. Okay, well, in our truth, that's the person, of Latin America, of Colombia, of Venezuela.
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Starting point is 00:46:00 chapter. We're with anxies in our next next our next our next and we
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