EXTRA ANORMAL - Casos Siniestros Ocurridos en Iglesias | le pidió a Dios un hijo y el demonio se lo dió

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

Acompaña a Paco Arías y Oscar Gherbert en este episodio donde exploramos algunos de los casos más siniestros ocurridos en iglesias, lugares que suelen ser vistos como refugios de paz, pero que también han sido escenario de eventos perturbadores. Desde misteriosas apariciones hasta historias aterradoras, destacamos el caso de una mujer que afirma haber tenido un hijo a causa de un pacto demoníaco. Acompáñanos en esta escalofriante travesía por lo desconocido, donde lo sagrado y lo profano se entrelazan de maneras inquietantes. ¡No olvides suscribirte y darle like si te gustó el video!

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He said, he's comingando to God. But when prest attention to his words, she does know that the sacerdote no he's

not a father no father no no Abemaria was about

something something that he was and when when I put the door

the the door and the he saw that

there was there was no no vows no

virgins she she she that he had four brasos he had this person

had an an acetitito there and he put an the left to pray and he's

to sitar better said the Psalm 91 and the the abjica the

abjable of the omnipotent I will I'm God God God's

my and castillo me my God in who confi leti he

he gets being and he He says, because it's the god in that you confidst and you confi if you're

a real that you're not the voice of Lettie. No, man. So this person try to

get to get to put his hand in the front of her and and he's projected

to a side. This this man was in the hospital because his

husband was a point to do and he he said I need that

I need much information but the little that he said he said, he said

I need to come, my husband has made to give the light to a

demonio. How much of podcast extra normal. My name is Pacuarias and I'm very happy to be here with all of you. This occasion, family, we have these capitals that to all of you guys are

gustando. Capitulos where we're narramos stories. Preparamos histories of the audience. Personas that from the sombre of the anonymatos

contendons some more sinister stories. In this occasion, the theme that we're going to talk, the stories that

we're going to talk, are stories that have occurred in places in places where the people go and

and it's many, many petitions, where doble the knees, where they're and expose those more three situations.

And today we're going to talk to stories sinistras occurred in churches. For me, it's one of the

things more fernes because we can't the concept of a place but remember that

we're that we only we're we're stories that you know that you

do of today today of my friend Oscar Gerber. How is Oscar?

Good, content. Tercerer time to start in this mess. And the reality is

that I like much the part to be able to learn stories of the family of the

family of the family of that's regalal and in occasions we've talked to

things about too with things with things related to be

this form. But in however there are things that even in the

Correos are more than a spiritual that also us have impacted

that has to be with actions with the process of the people in contra of

their own of their own but we say we mentioned of the things

about too things that's when I was when I was saying

when I was sure that much people is going to feel identified identified

because I think that more of one has had been a experience similar

or a sensation standing in a church and is that the concept

that we have many these these places are where

are not entran demons and not not not they

don't enter in the the but there people

that they say that the people and these

not are not they're not inside of the

Iglesias, looking to get in the way of God. And the reality is

that the stories that I'm just I'm just want to say a family for you

prepare you. We've prepared the stories from the more lebecitas to the most sinister.

For favor, get to the final and did us what history

you impact more in the comments that's it's that story

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and without my we're going to start me let's start

with the first story this story is an anonymous has

a title that for me was an ascertain because what

has to be the word interchamion if you do you

do a similar to be to be with a church

it's a story that never I thought that

Sinistra, but at the same time I generate a question, and you'll do to you, and I'll do to the people. You're saying that existan saserdotes that have practices oscuras, out of your

indoctrinament? I think that is that. That should have a bit of a segment, perhaps small, I hope and not be

majoritario, but of that there are, but that there's okay. You're going to tell to this story, and for favor, present

much attention, this occur in a town called San Pablo Villa.

No, me give more information of the place. That story

and a woman from the anonymat and we said that the story

is a story is a So, her was an woman very credent of the faith Catholic, a woman

that was a one of a time a in your church, to hear the Santa Misa, she confessed

and all what does a good Catholic had all his sacraments. The history is developed

with the protagonist that we going to put a number. He's going to be Ruben.

Ruben is the ultimate of his children. Talves in that moment,

because he's embarrassedada. It was the most little of all. Ruben was the

mother. This said this second me said that his mom was of

his mother was a little but Ruben always was the child

the family. We've told that all the kids were

created and for a form very hard. Recordemous, how they were

anteriorly with the children. We've done a child where he exercised much the violence, but

that Ruben was a child who were very permissive with him, the grade that he could

fall to the school. Ruben no bedece the orders of mom and of the they said

they don't know if it was because it was the more because was the more than more than

more tranquilla. Yeah no exercier a that violence in him. And they think that for

so Ruben started to deviant from the way of the things that when he said Ruben,

when he said he was to go to the school and he went to those people and they were to get to

rober gallinas to robar cochin and to rob and to rob getting seven years.

He and his friends robbing these animals to get and send us to a market. Much

Vecinos have identified that he was a problematic so his mom

he was to get to make sure but this boy was a problem of the

family and the problem of his parents the brother indesial

in an occasion he started a story in the

people we let's let's let's let's let's talk

in this moment in the world is the story of a

vestido of charro that that The people and the Anciano's of the people that if you

invocabas to this ser, the Charro Negr was capable to complete any desire and any

no important what strange or the absurd or the extreme that he would be to be able to

do you. So, in the people it was to reager much the story of

this ser, of this spectrum and Ruben and a group of people

began how invoked how invoked to to ask them deseos. The form of

how it was that had to be in a cemetery. You know to go a cemetery

in midnight to go to the tomb much and start

a series of words invocations to to attract this spirit if this

sers appear you you could you could be in good

with with people with those disastrous to be able to pacted with the charro. One night,

he's scapahed to his house, and see with some the people, and they're all together to the panteon of the people. They're in the tomb most antioa, that's all of his

friends, that was in that moment, one of the tumbas was in the year 1,700. It was an an old tomb

a very old the people, you had, had, they've been Forbidavit, in the part of the

cemetery, and there they started to recital a series of words. They're three persons in

total, Ruben and two friends. The testimony that they are the people, is that

they're that they they're to recit his words, Ruben started to come to

the stumbas like a zombie, he's to say, and he started and his

friends he said, Ruben, where and Ruben's going to they're there's a

all of the all of the but there was a part of where there was more, more obscurity and then you didn't even

for what they had to do and they were to get a friend and he was probably probably Ruben would be

to do that simply came in the tombas passed a little time and heard that Ruben began to

a gritty a great a form very very sinister like if something they were

attacking they're they're they're going and they're in a situation

fetal tapado of cars temblando with much fear they they're

they're they're they're they're they're the fact the mom

is the mom's but the man roberna was being he was

a problem of a susto, or that thought his mom. At a little time

that happened this, Ruben started to have to have very

rare. Ruben was a more violent of the normal. He,

he not violent. He simply was very problematic.

He was a robar, but not he was a aggressive with him,

with his brothers, with his mom, with his father,

he started to Incluso what we tell to this Seguidera is that in one occasion Ruben

and one of his sisters little are in the rio and they're to play. His mom was out of

and he he said how the little the little no, Ruben no. And when

his mom he comes he's how Ruben had a little a little trying to

get her the life abogandola in that the sheora and some peskaders

that were in the place, they're they're in the little bit of Ruben,

but they describe that Robin had a force very, very, very, very extrana.

No, accorded to him, to the complexion, it's costed much much

time, and when it's he's made, he's made, his mom his mom he gothetea

and he but he never to be of reirce. They knew that something about

with Ruben and remember her mom was her unbarasada and was a woman very Catholic

in that moment his mom decided to get to get to the church

of the people for that the people. Much people

think that here what happens in the majority of stories van

they exorcis and all when they when When they get in the church,

the sacerdote he's all the thing and decide to make some of

Ruben, they're in a mess as you and you put Awabendita,

put a crucifio and put a rosario and he has that Ruben

tomar some objects and he saw the he was like

a little problem. When he says he he he

Ruben at of the after the sacerdote rocied a little of a

bad at his hands and Ruben sentia that he he was to do a series of

experiments with him he was just his mom and he and the

sacerdote when the when the sacerote when he says to his

mother his son of his son has a influence of a

spirit very so he did This regularly is to attend by the

exorcism but I'm going to be frank for that we authorizes an exorcism

is very complicated. We'd we'd much suertes if in eight

months we're but we don't know if in those eight

months Robin stay he there's other option but no see if you stay disposed

so mom yeah was confirmed that Ruben had a posseion demoniac and he says the

sacerote do what you consider correct but for please we don't we can't

expect more my my my he was he was a point

to get a man okay the the sacerdote so

he demore a rato and he he says they're going to pass to this

quarter. They're to get a place that is a back to the capilla, which is

a quarter where they don't know they know the place, enter in a

little and it's a little where they have a mess and they have

not more the light of a black. The sacerote says

here we we're what you see and what you hear and what you

listen not you press attention. The sacerdote opened a door and

enter. He said dem me in five minutes nothing more. The sacerote is encirre

and and he starts. The mom of Ruben started that the sacoote

was talking he said he's incoenando to God he's he's preparing

but when when he puts attention to his words he did that the sacerdote

not was raising no father of our no

Abemaria was talking something something that he can't

understand and when when I the door the she

went into that the and he saw there

there was there no see there no no

vows no virgens she she described that when

when he the door to the that was

He was praying, or that was it, it was a figure of bronze, great, that had four brasos, had a rostro between human and animal,

and that was there was there, and there more elements. His mom was to get much, much, don't because

he's what is that, or what santo is that? No, asked nothing, he's

a sacerdote and he says, need to go to get to work with

his son. His mom he's and he's and he standing waiting out of

the place, he's he's how Ruben and he made a but he

remember the words of the sacerdote that he he said he said or

what he be a not enter not not make because what is here

not going to want to go to say and go to to engage.

Passed the minutes, passed on the hours, and the sacerote and he says, he's done, his son is too, his son, he's got,

he's going to be to be a tormented for this spirit. The senior recorded what he saw in that court, saw that statue

of bronze, but no he did cause because in that moment the joy of that his little bit, he said that

he said that he said that he said that were a house felices. Oh, ha ha ha

here the story, with a bad a bad a bad

and with an know, an about the the child

not doesn't come here. The time only three

days and standing on their room to give

a context to the people were all all

all were in one the same abitation, mom, papa, and

the children, all do not in one in one one in a one of the

whole. She got a middle of the madugated, grittable, and when

incend the lights, the sir, his husband, she does

get a in the sannas, and she returce of much of the bentre.

In that moment, carga the woman and she has the center,

to the center of the was an abort spontaneous, the baby is a life, the

woman is the child that was waiting. It was something was a very

very lamentable. The most the most sinister is that one of his

daughters, the mom of the woman that she was

the mother she was she was to start her. To her,

to her a sensation rar in the court. His mom he confiesa that

at the camera to see a a figure great of four brasos with a

rostro that not was a and he was alpheteing the vintre of

his mom and something and Mordered, and this this thing

mordia the vintra of his mom. Instantes after his mom

and there was a sagra in the sabanes. When his mom is entera of this

he put to think and for me takes the title of the story.

Intercambio what have done this man to save the life

of this chabo and to give to his deidad the

life of a baby. No man, it's day very that's the pedo. Imagine it.

Look, I think in this type of things. No, we can make it.

As a rome we know we know, we know if it's with a finality

good or with a mala. But for there they say that it is good

to serve to two amos. to one you're going to to get bad

and how that's that's that's that's served for this interchamble

to be to another to be innocent and the most the most of that

also I think I think that was the not that you say

you can they can do but if if we can't we're in eight

months in an eight months now was real that of the eight

or this person needed to do this interchambe before? Very good question.

Very good question. No know. If you know, it's, it's

no, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, I, so, so it's or if is a sorterter was a sorterer, or is a soror real?

Or was there disfrasated? Or was there disfors. Because his altar

was at last of the church in a quarter look, we're going to give the

context of the people the stories that you and the stories that I know, we don't

those we know, but not you try you, you trys the courier, you gotrace

the that's the most you know, the most you know. I have a story

very very similar to that you have to talk okay but

this no has to It has to be with the Christianism. It has to be with the Catholicism. It has to be with the Christianism. Okay, from the other side. This story

is a titula Balin. Balin. Contextualizing the people who are to other place. The Balin, we know we

know as a row of metal. So, like, and I like much for how it's going going to. This is the

history of a matrimonio conformed for Daniel and Luce. Okay. Daniel and Luce had a little more

of 20 years of casado. Respectively, his families were very amplies, as a time,

I used did say. Daniel had eight brothers, those were all were all

were and all had kids. And for the other other other side, Luz

had five brothers. And all they were also were and with

kids. Except they because that's that was the priority to have a family

an family ample. Delado of Daniel were Christians, they were Christians.

Del side of Lus practicable other other creences. Lus began

to get to the two. They had the hope that God was

to do the bendicion to have a little. Luce was a

little that she had to have been much time being Christian and then

Lus gets to the church for Daniel. Okay. So

Luce a so farra a story that is in the Antio

Testament, the history of Anna. Okay. A woman contextualizing

that was sterile, no could have had a Bible, went

constantly to temple to to give to God that he

concedier the miracle to have a little. This history

he was much a because there two coincidences

the number one is that Anna no could

have children and number two Anna was okay

Anna Lus she was she was very identified

so then she she went to give a God

that he conced to But she's the age, because she

had 41 years and his husband had 43, that is much more difficult to have

biologically children. She was constantly to the church. Her mother,

her mom, he said that not would be to go to go to get a time.

Pace the time and unfortunately Analus was, he'd embarrassedada. Keda

and in the history of the Bible, Anna he promised to God that his his son he's

going to be he put the name of Samuel. Then Anna Lus does the same. When he makes the

sonne, he put Samuel. But his abuela, the mom of Anna, Analus,

he said Balin. My Balin, he said to Karin. Okay. Balin

was a little that in the church caused commotion because they were a

20 years they had been trying to have done kids but they're

not they're not they're so so they're in this

part when they when they went to the church was the

child the man but occurred something in the family

of three Daniel and Analus and it was that

the matrimon he went in pique okay of

then he had to go to the and the and the

times that he was that was that he esposa. At

complete three years, Balin, Daniel he has the life in an

accident. Wow. So, she kept an only with his son, but

his cunyos and his brothers they're they're to play with the

child. And as she had promised to God, that he was

to be the need to the church. Unfortunately, one of the

brothers of Daniel is a cargo a tio a tio and he he's growing the little

the new is going to be growing into the little we've been mentioned a lot of

so valine had a characteristic had a personality that overshalia in the rest of the

people and he always he used in miscuid into the church had

like that there was for there a staria no a new a new a new

grew yeah and every ever involved more of the service or the service

pardon of the always the attention and atento in the predications, all the time was there. At the age of the

adolescence, the pastors they put in their group of children and they had talent and had aptitudes

to be front to the people. It's still passing the time and they're going to doggar

the power and front of the people. Okay. Because it was a man that was

instructed and apart his mom from very little he said that he was a

miracle of God. And that he was to give faith of this. Then, when he gets to the age of 19 years, it's another tragedy. His mother started to lose the

and he, with the talent that he has to go. So, he's going to do you. There was this this

shock. Because he, being a miracle of God, or so he was said to him, his mother per die a

And he was After me passing the time When he he he took to predicate

for first in the church decide about about the

sanities of God and he said a moment came

to him a phrase that he repeated constantly in

his predications I am a miracle of my

God and the day in that I do you do that

he me rebate the this cause commo a

person to imagine circumstances. Termina he to predicate about

about the sanity of Jesus, the milarro that's the master and all this we know.

In the protocols of Christianity, when there when there when there the predication

and they make a call a call and and pass the

people to then they're to begin to begin to

that that time in night sent you like if something descendia

and he plantar to him. He started for the people. And the people

some were to be able to do you. What stoyed that afternoon in that the church

was that began to appear like as if were diamonds. The

people not knew that was because it was very rare not. They

didn't the pastor he took from a sign of the

hell. Okay. The fame of Samuel and begins to grow to his around the people. This suceden in Guerrero. He goes to the predications, to different

churches, and they ask them to pray for the unferms, because it was very particular this part, and apart, and he was the message that he was a miracle vivient of God. It was a testimony, no?

Yes, and he said, I'm a miracle of my God, and the day in that I'd say to pray to this, that God me quitted the life. So, it was.

Soceded this Until that He was A point to Cumpur 24 years That day He gave

an Anciana to the church Where he Perteney One Anciana that he called much

The attention That every That every That was That He said This protocol of sanity

Passen to front Those who are Enfermos He He starts For the

People And This spirit He was He was He was The Spirit of

God, that he helped to say to because in occasions even he asked to the people, that was the discernment.

He said, you're saying, you're going to say, and then. And I'm going to talk about the person. This Anciana

is at the front, and when he puts his hands in his front, he says that I feel a rechazz.

And the she says, Miko, you don't have to offer me to me. Wow.

I just just wanted to be this. This it's just concentra totally. Termina

the reunion, the amen, and you know is that in some of the other people are doing, he's

he kept, he's he's talking with his group of his friend, and be a senior and

he's a question, I, you know, I know, and the she says, you don't

me knowces, but I see, to you, to you know, to you know,

and he said, I'm going to pay a favor, when when you get to

a house of your mom, you you're you Piedrita Verde

that's a last four years in the altar of this church. He,

with the same rostro that's to say I'm concerned of what

me about? Yeah. And the she despae saying, your

abuela was very my and she was always going to be very

she's the mother, the mom of Anna Luz for

things of the time had fallen, he had So, so he was Balin, he's going to Samuel,

the house of his mom, totally disconcerted, and he'll tell you see what the story. Fichter he's seen this, I've seen this woman, and I don't what's going to.

Me, he said, I'm about a little bit of a little bit. He's got to a loose, and he says that in the closet,

in a caja, are some those objects that are very valuable for her. He passes the caja,

the abre, like the mother was a see, and he explains where He's envulve a

tawya where there's a little a little a little and he said the truth

he said that in the process where she to go to give to a God that he

gave a a child he's a woman out of the temple and he says you

you're you're saying you're to ask to give to the God to the

God of the God that that you do a day

you you you, you're going to find a peter. Then she in that temple he pia

the God to the fertility that he did a good. Then is when

he's when he's when he says Samuel he says to his husband. For that

is that had problems. Daniel very molest and he started to have problems

with him because they had a faith and he he to his.

So, Samuel molesto for this, he starts to go to the church, and his mom in a little time felles. The plan no

he has to predicate, and this moment this Samuel began to get to be very rare it was a

very, very rapid, and not they were. Then he he's just in house.

The woman that manned the history, he said that was with him. He was

practically in a state of postration. No, he could get to the kitchen. When,

of the point, Samuel or Balin, he's to get to the kitchen to the

court and he says that's what he's he says, because he'd get to

get to that person in the house. I'm I'm don't know to

me about, we're we're you let's enter. Okay. In that moment

Samuel he said what had to do with her. The woman says that

a pacto a pact and you have to have to care with what one

does. And you you mentioned that you was a miracle of

your God and that the day in that you would take to

the time and your moment will get. And

He says that he's a woman and he will be to carisial

the and he said to his wife to say Balin for a reason

and I'm that you know he's and so he's all time

Samuel falles and he and this this story

the man the was she saw she saw

she her her and his future his future

and she she said she Balin was diminutive of Baal Beastia

Caro The God The God of The God The God For that's Byal For that's he said

Balin Yeah, and when said the God I've heard I've heard I've heard of

one And I'm Yeah, and I've been I've seen I've said No, I'm I'm Mollok

No, no is this It's one That's one I'm Val Now Now

It's very rare because he sanable Yeah and his Prometida

said that the times I don't use the name of Jesus and

the name of Jesus always I said in the name of my God

that caused the miracle you're san wow wow it's

very gross because is inside of a temple where it's where it's

where it's the presence of God of God the God of Abraham the God of Isaac

Allah Beste Abrams you have to escalar with that story

about because it's something I I'm sure that's something that's

something that is something that is in occasions when you go to a

place and there this type of people that are people that are

people who are in the other intentions or are people who are people who are to destroy a congregation

from a exhalerate with that this story now. A so bestia. The next

story that I want to Oscar, this not is an anonymous if our our

seguer us your name is the Lourdes Ramirez she title

this story, the animes. And this me brings much to the mind

of what we're talking about the episode. What type of of

Cres can get to to an church? Listen that story

and you and you make the questions. She

me said that this in the years 90. In that

then, his old, his abuel, his The person incargated of the church, to open it, to cerrara,

to open the lights, to talk of the campanario. He was a person very entregated to serve to his parochia. He, this, there were at times that there were misas of gallo or the misas of six of the morning, and he had to get to get to the campanas, Prended the Luses At the

day I was in the church I'm at the lights, I'm at the doors was serving

in the church then I would help the father there passing to some other

things I'm a person of this that I know that's that I know

so that are that are people who are so that are people that are people who putting your

granito of the arena to to support to the church.

In one occasion passed a experience very that his abel. He said

that the time in the Catholicism is the Catholicism when it's when you come the

change of the time. When they're to start bigancicos the

church had much movement because he and a group of the people of the adorned the

church something something something very, very, very beautiful and he

was regularly was very active. He lived at the church. All the kept

close. So when he to talk the campanas was a brinkito

of his house and he always and he always

happened something was a very rare he says

that for the time there was a misa that started at

10 of the night. He went to his house to get to

and he knew he at the last at the misa was he was

time and he he gave a little to the people

because there people that after the after there

was a church in the church in the churches that is the church

that is like a partito for for petitions more the

people go there when you have a petition when you want to enter in an oration profound and

have a communication directly with God so he says sometimes if there were people doing a rosario or if they were doing

petitions then I go to the 11 and a 1. 12 yeah to just to start the

church because there no there's then he was sitting in his sofa at the

side of the window that was to the window and in a moment other, I heard

how much people started. But not it's of the way of the church,

it was like they're at the way, and they're going to the church. And he

said, because they are right if you do you at the misa? Well,

at the most are families of people that are doing doing or something

or something. He's he's he, he's in the 40 minutes go and

see the question. He he of many people, of many people that are coming and see how their voices go

to the parroquia. Well, pass the time. Yeah, it was a time. Yeah, it was time to go at the 12th of the night and he says, it's hour to go, apard the lights, and to accommodate what

to have to come to and start the doors until morning, at the six of the morning, that's over the church. So, this man,

he's going to start by the hardin, the Apagators of the Harding, and he's to come for the

garden of the church, the side of the side of the

front, and he's back to doces of the church. Dice.

He's at the entrance to the church at the direction, there

there are some interrupters that are all the lights. Then

he goes and they go and all the church kept dark. But when

when he does When he does after that after the light, he does know that

there are there are there there but it's all about and he

he said oh, he's getting out of that that's that I

don't see that I think that I'm there no way he's he goes

he he and he does a count that he don't pretend

he he's he I think he he's he he

came to another again he he grita and He said,

Disculpeen me, disculpate me, excuse me, and I see that there someone, but no there's

light. So, of these people who have been these classics of the abuelitos,

these lanterns, that are like the color gris, metallic, and he's going to

talk to with the person who areando, that's I'm going to disculp and he

he's going and he, he's going to, he's coming to the altar between

the bankas, and when When he's like, to the middle, he's done that there's a

kind of a group of people who are to say, they're going to say, but I'm going to discused with

them. He gets, and meters before getting where were the people, he'd know that

those who were there incados, orando, clamando, not they're in peace. Dice,

what he described, is that when he he does know of that not are humans

and they're like something something you know you're in the case of God and you

see you like if if you would get a ball of the water free in the

the fear the and he he starts how these people start

and start and they're they're saying that they're abe Maria

puritism and they're they're in His oration, but he He was parado,

meters atrazated of the fear. The only that was a new intern, all the

church was the church. And be that they were in their but they they were

not they had their feet. No, they had feet. And he in a

moment, he does know that they started to look at the

look and he had the eyes. Serro his eyes for

fear. And what he describes is that you know they're not. But he's how those

who were the people are they're going to move the bank's and they're to be there. He

he started a rosario in his mind and he said my old was much a scapulario

I don't see if you've said he he'll get to his capulari see the eyes and

he began to rest while he was surrounded by all all they said he

he sentio how literally all they were and they were to godeer and they started to him and he

he was able to go ahead and able to do that simply getting his scapulary and with the

eyes and resando resando because I was that he was there was a good he was

to a moment to another he he's he said how one of those that was

he said and he said He says the next. Here not only

enter in persons viz. Cueder. He says he he'll open the

eyes because he said the voice here in the voice and there no

had nobody. I don't have nobody. He's got to get to

the church and he's he went to the little

the rar is that the abuel is this in the

years 90 That's what he He lived The abuel The abel He wrote For much

Time Never he He told to nobody What he He lived Until the moment of

His death He He died At the 2000 Between the 2001 and 2003

And she She said That when I was in in in camera Yeah very

well desausiated For a Afermed Natural Reuna Reuna

Reuna the family and says let's have to tell something that I'm not

I'm to get to get a lot of you're you know when I said when I

said you said to say, I said I was a question quite that I

got to for many years because I know that this was a bad

but no me I want to give to the tomb and it's

to all the family the reu. And they said, and he was told exactly everything. It was at the

night. I went to the church and I met I was with spirits, with almas, with animas that entered to clamor for her salvation.

The reality says, the chick that she that me share the is that the majority of the family, no

he created to the abel. Because they thought they was that she was delirating. So,

well, they're they're like, yes, well, no, don't you preoccupies, met him

in peace, I mean, not they were an importance to what for him is a very important.

What's the two days the abel fallece, and then of the process or the processes of

the Catholicism there is a very popular that is in Mexico, no, if also if it's

in Latin America, it's what is the nine days. The nine days, that is when

it's when is when a rosario in the house, She offers a misa For the Descanso Eterno

of this person And the same He's done With the Abel And this He goes to A person

To the nieta That's The story She said She was in the Misa And she Entro to

Santissimo He finished The Misa of his Abel of His Rue Days And he

He said to his Moma His Papa that's He was He was Piding

for the Alma of His Abel He Entro the Santissimo, was a he was a

place that regularly is a place that there's a very few people there are a time and she

and she in the bankas she in the bankas in the front of the Santissimo

see her the eyes and he starts to ask to give to the good for the

rest of her she she's she's she's and as are

bankas or these of the madera where they

they're inca. When someone's or someone or someone is inca when the mudra truan, it's

madera. So she was in his oration when she gets the presence of someone and at

the point of the bank at last truena like that someone also she inca.

She only does this movement and with reoho she does see a

question that there there's a figure with the same Ropa

that's his old. I'm so he was his back.

I'm never he could see the he was the but he saw the

his roba he was his boyna was he she she said

no me no me no but also me provoked

the the person when when a person when I'm

I'm Inquietude, because it's like if you were a zombie. He only was like so. I was there

but was inerty. In that moment I recorded those words, the words that those

were the words that were in some moment, here not only only entered people

live. I only me did the word, I finished my oration, me

I went, and he went. He not was there when I Is it that the person

Mertas enter to acclaming for your salvation? It's a good question for those who have

very good fundamentals about that if there is a limbo exist, no exists the person

is going direct to the sky, they've been a great enigma because

in the parameters we're talking of the Church Catholic and in the

Christianism. Here there are philosophies different. The Catholics have a fundamental

and they're going to get to get to be not. The majority say no,

you're going to do you go to do you go to the right? But the

opinion is the family of the normal. That they in the comments, that is

what you think. There are in the comments. There's what I'm

here. I'm a question. You think that with an oration can

sanctify a place. With pure oration? No. No. No.

It has to be more elements. Like, which is? First, where comes the

or the oration? One of an oration is like like a recipe

of a recipe of a How is the result for any person who never

has done and how it's made for a chef that in this case the chef would be a

person that has the armadura of God that's in a person that person who porte

that unction to a person that in his life or who never has never has

never been of this I'm I'm I'm a part in the Bible

in Thessaloniscences, seconded Thessalonisenses. That says that the malvado comes with the help of Satanus to realize miracles and prodigios to conventy to the person. Exactly.

The story that you told a little was a person that used to a word, very clad, unction. Unction.

This person did miracles and had prodigios and appeared things in the temple. There are many churches

where succeed in this type of miracles, we'll call it so, where

they're in the last church in the last I'm there's people that's never

never knew if it was a thing a bad, at the final,

I think those who know they can say is good or not

no? Yeah. All this I don't because in the churches

I've seen I've seen things personally I've seen miracles

I've seen people that even even to prophetize and is very sartner

but yeah when I'm in this side I don't see if it's for a spirit

of the God in the same God that we know and there is when I'm

a little of confusion now now I said a lot mentioned about the

people that can enter or can enter in circulating there in internet, I don't know if you took over,

of when is a father and is up even at an altar. They're in a church atollic and sub at the altar a woman

that apparently is too many. I don't see this video. So, they've seen. Ah, and it's up.

Uh-huh. Me, it's a attention, the sacerdote, because the sacerdote because the sacerdote

and sonry, and they're there. There's a a sacerdote, I like is Britannical

and they are and they're and they start to hear and they're and he

and he he's and he and he says I'm I'm rio because no have

injerences are more more more than you. This to tell for the story that

came a continuation. This history surge here here

in the state of Veracru in the state of Me Piederunimato a medias. Me, they're given names. I suppose that they're going.

This is a family integrated by Rosa, for Felipe, and his three children. Okay. Of those which we're going to mention to the minor. That's called Lettice. This family

was a family very servicial in the church. Even so his house was very, very, very very very

very certain to the temple where they went. When Nase

Leti Lettie, Lamentably she has a short-ed- death has

to have attacks of epilepsy. And you you know that the attacks of

also also, it's also. The problem the memory

starts to fail and they're to have to get the

notion of the time even some sometimes no?

Yes, yes, yeah. It was a thing maltrated. Aparted for ignorance

this, that's that's this type of things. It's like a

way to a bit of possession. Just that. Fortunately, the church where I was

this family not they don't like a demoniac it, they were

like a thing of a thing of and so they they were they

knew overleave. Lettie is to adapt to the church. A despite of

their condition they were to get a family very, very, very servicial. All the time they were

in the church. Dentro of the males, the bades, the people that was about

the family commenced or learned to try to letty when came in the attacks of epilepsy

because you be very good to the time of the language that they can't get to

get to get to the adolescence of Leti get to his pre-vintes you know

in some churches is stile the issue of that they do you we're going to get

some people they're in groups of support groups of people little to the

life of Lettie even into the hours of reunions of the church

lamentably he took to live these scenes of attacks of epilepsia

where the people would and they support and they they used for that

not so huger with their own and they had a protocol in this

church that they in the same way at the final or

they were for the and all the days that they were the

name of Letty was present in a time in a time

of a group people there was leti in

this group was accompanied by one of his hermanes,

the brother of the manna in middle. All everything was normal,

all was good, in these reunions and a little context, the people

study the Bible, at the final can't alas and then they're

to talk in a convivio. Yeah was about this reunion when a

person, one of the one of the people, one of the person, one of the

They started to can't a alabance. In that moment Leti started to suffer what was a attack of epilepsy.

She was sat down in a sofa a large, was just in middle, at the one of

her men of the person that made this story. Leti see, he, came at

the person that was that manned in the story. In middle of the lavance.

In middle of the alavance and then he fell to the

soil. All people thought that was an attack of epilepsy. In the

center of this cell where they were there's there a messita where

were the tases where they had had had taken water the

the plate that they had used that the

mess and that and they thought that it was a cause of the

movement of let and provoked by the without there

was there a corner in the side where was

the telephone the and a massetita with a plant and then it's a move to

this and he's not not being not being not being talking about. Infront it was the

commedor of the house and he's a quadro. Dissen that in this moment

they were a question that was a thing that's the person that person that's

talking the guitar the last does it to help to the person who

were getting a letty was having these attacks his your body has

movements involuntaries? Error. Grado Error. This person the garra and

another person more than that was that was there that's not a lot of her. But his

or not a oration common. I was citing the Psalm 91. Okay. Because

she did count that was a thing that has been with the spirit. So,

this person had a little bit a seatito there, and he put a Aceit in his

hand And de leho He starts And he's Citar I'm sure The Salmo

91 And he And he Abita the Abrigue Marra After the Sormre

The omnipotent I'm I'm God My God My and Castillo

Mio My God I'm Leti he He's he

he says Because is the God he's He's you He's

you You know I'm Cag Gark That's He Not

Man So this This person try to acercarsely and put his

man in the front of her and he's projected to one the other person

that was there was a name Hector he's he gets the

and he starts and he he gets to get to letty and leti he

starts to calm his movements when they're able to paciguer

they go to the telephone that was on the

table Sede in the 90s. They're going to the Mesa al-a-lado and the telephone of the pastor. The pastor

gets, a question what's the thing. Lettie was in a state of a state.

They're they're in the church, in the church, they're still on her and there. There's no

more manifestations of this type. After of this pass something something very similar to

the case of Balin. Lettie and gets to get to present febres, and he's

a back much of the and they they had in resguards in the house

and as he was a time all the days that had a reunion or they were

for her. A a day. I was was terming the the

service and the same process pass on front those

that are they start the people to let's

let's call the strado here in the temple in

the church Christian and and and between the multitude come to Lettie to come

that leti is in his house but Lettie came in a sabaan and he's

to come to get to front and he's up to the strado to the pastor

the pastor or for the person when he'll to orer

for Lettie letty he he's has a very retodora very penetrante and he

said to the pastor in front of all, how a lobo can orer for an obeha? In that moment, Leti is a quitae and is totally desnude. And, everyone

don't understand what's happening. The pastor asks that they tap because it's in front to the church. When someone of the

women of the church is she gets to involve her, she says and he because you want

to tap me if not is the first that's a woman desnuda in this place

oh no mad they're they're and they is when it's when it's

when all letty with another voice yeah no they were to get

the sabana people no could with her because had a

power overhuman she she began to citar the

Bible too and And I said, I'm the way, the truth, the world. It was a

thing was a question. The people not knew to get to get to

get to get to get to the person. And then he went to where

is the people. And he says, why not you know to Stella? Estela

was a woman of the church that not had to his son. His

his son his son his his he had four years of

and they were and they He says, if you get, you've been to Stel here during five years

in secret, why don't want to see me to this manner? He's got to take the trapitos?

The school, boy. The people go to go to hear and the pastor, no,

I said, like the virgin had been in this moment. Although no,

even, even, even, even, even, and the person, and the

person that over there in the house, and the person, and they learn,

and they And they feel like to get to do this uncertainty, all this environment so tethric

and so demoniac within the church and it's a lot of the people get to get

to get, people have people, all the people, and it was a battle where they

were on the until the moment they felt that they there was, there was

there was there was they've been to letty, they're they've been the doctor, the doctor

effectively had calentura He said that a crisis nervous that's not a problem

spiritual but in the church had passed things. Sure. Lettie is

more more still. He's kept in a state in the camera. He was

a point to lose the life. No, he was he was to get

to get to getz much. His body practically were in the

bones on the car and the pastor took problems with

his family. The rarer of this is that one of the children, because he had three children, the most grand mention that when when they're getting that day to the house,

after that his papas were playing in the way, for what he had succeeded, a quarter of them was where was the family, he had died and

was that hebrated. It's a rompe. So, and not only the family of the pastor, but that Stella,

he confies to his husband, that if fiel with the pastor. Oh, the bestia. No, man. No, man. A year after,

the pastor yeah had divorced of his family, the pastor is auto-desvive. Because not only was with Stel.

I'd have been with other women of the church. No, man. How is? That's. How is?

I've heard. I've heard not stories. I've I've heard relats of

just of the churches here where there's. I know to get

to an extreme where the pastor is auto desvive but where

see they're tempted for for different questions or

for where is his talon of his and if

there is there a pastor having sposa, having,

well, they're in the temptation. A me get in the attention. Because it's a

time I've seen I'm in internet and I'm know that that's that's

this, but I think that's has succeeded. There are some explorators are doing there's

an exploration in a recinted where they're going to be cases Poltergast

even. And some those and some they're to get to get to

get to So nervous. One of them begins to sitar the Father Nuestro the Father

Nostro that's in the sky, and of a person, and of a little of a quarter

and he's to start the father and I also I know. And I

remember the part where the the devil tient a Jesus. Is that that is

something that's something know like is that they can't they can't they're

they're they're they know Bible. Connoces the Bible better than that's not Catholic. They're not

they know they're they know because they're because they've lived and know the history even more to how it's a how they're

a, they know they know all. How you know when you're doing, when you're doing, you know,

there's a there to listen to you a person that not is a celestial precisely. No, I

know, and the fact it's a much. There are people there when they're

when they're the people that's a little in the Christianism know

in the Catholicism no I don't I'm sure they they're they're

that or do you put a you know when you you're you're you're

that's the mortification of the body to to be

in contact with God and you When you're up to or at madrugat

are the revocations. Receive revelation of the sky. In theory that's

so so I'm before you receive a revelation of the sky. Stop.

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a connection with God and getting the message divine, they're to be spantadoes.

They're start to move the things, see, in the things, ruidos

in their camera. And they know that not it that's of a being

that's something that what is interrup the connection that has with the self

but the good of this is that as some people that they have a

preparation before and then you and you have they've been

with the armura and are people are people that if they

they impression or if they can cause a

a don't know how you know no no

is that is that's moving things, but they're still in their connection and receive

the message. But when there are people that are to do not for madrugat for the first have seen

fear because the sensation that many describe is when I'm when I'm and I'm

eyes. Of a rinkon of the room, I'm like someone. Like

that someone is listening the or the oration that not for him but is there

there, but it's listening. Molesto for what I'm doing. Pongen the

pro and there me count how they're like, I'm

a friend, I'm a lot of the same and I'm when I'm when I

know there's nothing to do that with the hour. When I was

to give a or a God, he said that he said that

these, it's that they were not even were mormulos. Uh-huh. Like,

but much. So, many, each every that he tried to adorer and

he said that that's he called much the attention because he would be in silence and

no passable nothing. But it only was when he was going to when he was going to

that that's that's one of that I said, because it's curious

because it's like if they're disconcentral because you know you're not you're

not you're not you're in a question and you're thinking that you there's

your your your your thinking what you're going to do. Yeah, what I'm going to say. I'll tell that story. Yeah is my ultimate story. For me, it has been one of the

most forties. That history that I'm going to tell you to give a context for that people know, even if you want to go to know this church, this basilica, the capilla that is inside of this basilica

can go and you can't their experience. It's about the basilica of our The Lorde of the Dolores Soriano, located in Kerectar. This capilla, is the capilla of the

animas of the purgatorio. It was constructed specifically for to do exorcism. This capia is in front of the basilica of Our

Senora of the Dolores. In those years, the state of Ketaro was one of the places where

were more solicited to the exorcisms. So, for those is that made them

to do this capilla within of this basilica. The capilla was inaugurated

on 7 February of 2010, and since they've practiced in exorcisms all the

days onus. So, are mises of sanation and many people who have

people who have seen that a family have some kind of influence demoniac

and those families to that capilla for that the relicions exorosism

to get to get a place we're the relato that's in the

part of the basilica you have to pass various escalers and

cross a hard and crosser to you impact

when you get to this capilla because in the vitral

you do you make representations and that's stethriced, some times.

Here here's represent the purgatorio where the animas expiating their culpac

and they prepare to ascend to the sky. Others have the image of Jesus and at

a one costado an altar of images only with little crosses. There are

there are people who do this place, the people that are to this place

that go to this capilla they say when you get a

atmosphere different. It's more peser and even the and the people who

serve in the basilica that they get to pass for this place for this

place. They say when there is very hard, it's much it's how the

bankes or that they're sometimes they're they're they're they're

more with a thing that sometimes the sound when is the

sound when it's the people that they enter in this capilla, when they're exorcised, they're to gritty much. So, they think

that they're, they're looking at the side normal, the side logical, that the sound is a kind of, when they're in the doors, like the sounder is going, but when they're in-sezzarred, they're going to, they're going to the grits of women, women,

children, but grits, very, very very hard, very desgaradores. Yeah, that I put in context of how is this this this church, this

capilla comes in the history because this is this place.

It's the testimony of a sacerdote that he wrote written a

which not a question. In one the story us mark

that was the sacerdote that attended this and receive

the call that came of a pair of a man.

This man was in the hospital because his his wife was

a point to give he said he said he he didn't do

much information but the little he he he said

he he he said I need that my wife my

wife he said he will be the time and when

when he when receive that message, so obviously it's alterer much, he'lled his things,

he's a vehicle, he was to runbo to the hospital, he did the

direction. When he went to the hospital, the sacerote is he

was preparing mentally, he'll a rosario in the cario. What is the

sacerote Plasbe in his diario is that when he was to go to the

hospital and he looked for the front of the person that was

I was in the case, they'd in a mirada demoniac I said the person

that I was the woman who was in the corner she was me kept looking to

the car and I was onre and I don't know and I looked at a

the man who he got the back but me and I

was I was I'm it's it's it's there there's

there there was there was doing my rosario

and he was resando until to go to the hospital. When he got he'd know that

the hospital was a doctor's and doctors and and everyone all over

here and yeah I was that all was very and nobody he gave

an explanation of what he asked but they were they're

they're very occupied there had much a person

and until a person of a he indicates that in the fourth 113

had been a baby but that had passed in a tragedy he in that moment he's up the escalars and

he was looking to the room he's he kept with the last words of this

man my husband my husband that I'm that I'm think I'm think

I'm I'm a note periodistic he he gets to the

that in meters ahead is the room 113. And he does a point that

doctors and come down and they were in that's but to do a lot

brutal was there was much movement of personnel and outside there were

people that he didn't he didn't nothing until he

he he is a man that's a man and a object

punso-cortante in the piece in the piece. But his faction, his rostro

had been he had left a face a very perturator, a a sonrisa very

perturabor and the poor is that a side of that was a man was a

woman with a baby in arms but the woman had herida, grandissima in the

coel. All the almoada, all the sabanas, they were in teemned of rojo, but the baby was being, was alive. The fact, it was a little.

It was a little. They're in a doctor and take the baby and it's a little, and they're going

and they're and they're, and they're going to take photos and photos, no, they're not, the two are so the

woman, like the woman, like the man, they were mortals. He not said

what was going and he and he and he's to ask to the of the

woman that's out of the notice of the the news of

the he said in what he said he said that the man that he

did the man when he was when he came of the lastio

to do the patio to make a another that was when But when he regress

to the abitation is like if it was another man, it was a change

brutal and it's like it's like if it's like the person the person

that entered with a and he entered and he agred

to two that were taking the signos to the people

those he was he got the he was was in that moment

when her wife, so, recent operated, can't and lastimated forsege

with him from him to protect to his and it and was in that moment when he

decided to run his his coo when when he gets more personal

more people more more doctors personal of security they they're they're

they're and they're saying that this man present about a

rabia extreme It was very brutal and had much force. But that this man was what he wanted to with the baby, of his nina that had to be. No, he did.

In that moment, that was he felt a corralado was when he was when he took the arm and he said the back the pecho. But, before he said

some words to the wind and I was to sitar. He gritted, Lucifer, in your hands in comiuming my spirit.

pardon me for not d'n't what you promise. And he narrowed the cuchillo. The

sacerdote when he's all all by armando the rompecabas

and he does that that not it was really the really the

lastiment of a demon but it was that a type

of of a a demonio and he he

in a day. He started to study the symptoms of of this man, and he

he was signos very, very very fertes of a posseion

demoniac discovered that this man a a cult, a cult of an cult of

a demonio where had an offrendas where the people were people had

animals but they had a change, but this man had

pacted the entreged of his baby, of his, of his primogenit, to receive something to change. He started an investigation very

strong. The sacerote, all of it was plasmando, all he was plasmando in his diary. Desafortunately passed a tragedy. Before that this man, that sacertote, pierre the life, or

per die a life, because if it he'd, perde the voice. He's kept a mud. Of course, there's a story of that place, that is known of a sacerdote

that he has a voice per die he said and at a

little time also he's a life in a form tragic

this this person that all wants who is

and let say who is no he not

he did what what was in the person that

the man that he was that this sacrifice

but But he says some words very very raras He says she

she's she has she has he's he's and he's in the night

in your room see a figure spectral something something that he says

you will you start of time time time time

time so what your father me I come

I come the person that the person that was

that baby, that was a point of assassinated. He was created for his abelos, and they

told all what did his father. And the notice of that the sacerdote that per die the

when he entered of things that's when he investigated the life of his

father. Of his his his his title I need

help. And And from there we know what is living and what what happened

with the family. No, manches. You're you're just that's that I'm

getting the brain when I started the part. It's cabroncissim so.

I'm voices. Ah, it's the interference. That's the thing,

the time of the time to to give to the kids and things and things

generational this story has to have to a a theme of what you said a rato.

All, all, all, all, so it's all all, and it's we're still

we're about the type of stories. And I don't know what you did you try you

this night. It's the interesting of that that we get us and let, see,

let's see. Well, this history surge here in the state of O'Haka. Uff,

circita. Serquita. This is the classic history of a a little that

is a expand to Christian Christian. Because when I'm going to start to fail to

the audio. It's very rare. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This church

is a grow. This history surge of this church that you

mentioned about that that's a little is a little at one

of the many of the many of this city or of this

town. And for what the same they're to look to look

other place more more more more to be the

pastor of this church he found a place this

history has many many years before before that

this city he found a place a place

a and what he he was he he

is that just in middle there had a

there So, so plan of So, we're going to We're going to We're going to And then we're The end up The base.

He'll The dewean, So, it So, they're There's a Adelante, and they're going to Construing this

This, this Iglesia or Congregation. Yeah. Around of this city, Pessar of that wascentric,

no had Tantas. There were some houses in front of this It's quite ample as, as as they'd

be it before. So, they're going to all the church, and it's to get to

a little more, and into the institutions Christianas are delegating certain responsibilities and they

are delegating certain leadership. So this church, like the majority of the

churches that we knowcees that are their reunions with leaders, with leaders

of the leaders of alavance, a coro, finances, all this type of things that are in the church.

And they're about how so they were managing the groups and you know the system of the

work, because also it's much time in this way. Pace the time,

it's so six months and in those six months a person a person

and a person in this person a man, and he he's a in that

city. The pastor he says that no, because in reality no, because in

things cars, so if are in the bankas, there are some there's

there, and no more. Diss that you have passed for

here in the night and I see that the right on the back in

some see some in the part of the part of and he says well

no, probably not, probably not probably not view well, and the

The most of talking to even to quecharse of that in the night there were in the

house when yeah, it said that's like if they were and if were you're crying.

This the pastor he took like a good signal. Probably it's

people who is people that are like the echo of the the bestions that

there in this institution. All normal for them. Until

that in a reunion of leadership they were talking and they said there were certain manifestations

in the church and they those were like a signal divina and all and they're

being able to bring up and bring more people and all this all of all of people

they're content except two people leaders of young Jorge and Sylvia

and they're they're that they're passing things feas in his

house from from from that and the place and the external

he said he said George that one he was he was he put in that

in that was a grabator with a cassette that put some allowances

and he says that at moment to give to play advanced

the and the button the button was out out and

separable the grabator. I thought it was a theme electrical, revisa, change the

the enchufe, go back to connect to the grabator, and of the point it's

to start like if the cassette were more less lent. Ase many years contextualizing

to the audience more young, existian the Walkman and the Walkman

were like to the disman. The disman was the car where

you met a disc. The disc was the precursor of the

iPod and those those things. Those Walkman, when

when I started to get to the pile, the cassette even a grossed the

voice of what you know. So, it's an effect to be the cassette

that put with alavanzas Jorge in his house. He's to get

a little no know if it's the cassette, the new,

the cassette for other of the songs that he was

normal, the radio functionable. The radio day. It was a time with the allowances that they

were putting in that grabator. This happens when he's only in his house.

In other time, his wife Sylvia was preparing a time for the young.

He says that she gets, she in the cell, he says, she says, but at

the moment to open the Bible, at looking the book, that I

want, I'm, I'm, I'm, an an air, he'd he'd

to venting the and he said she's she's she's because the ventilator

of the tenter of the techo was to be and then so it

and then the window and the sierra for that there's a raffa of

air when she was when she was she's she

she's she she's she and not only that that's

projected to and the and says that he

is going because no there's these manifestations into the

house. And his kids say that the hour to work and they're talking about

when they were doing, when they're they're to start to hear the kids because

they're this habit of before to do to work. Orar. When

they they were when they they were they're they're and that they were

people that were some sombers. This they're so the pastors,

then the pastors, in this place, in the church, all this is happening

in the church, in this reunion of the leadership. The pastor says, we're going

to do you and we're to reprending and I'm that's tormenting to the leadership because you know,

this type of things. They're and they're on the others. And, and of

all the doors of the place of this building, that were three, were the first,

was the door lateral and a door that's behind of the scenario.

They're to saccudice and they're to look at the candelabro above

of the strato and also it's to move the people and they

think they're not because they're a kind of they're thinking they're going to go to

the door and they can't see that the door is done that the door

has made the key the he's but it is able but it's open

but it doesn't they're forcegear, they're in panic. In that moment the theme

spiritual, he went to and they have been to the office and they're in the office that way to go to the person to be in front,

that if they can't go to get to be able because they can't say because it's the person who he's going to

get to forcegear and they're able to make the door and they're there are women you know there there are people

and men and they're there's too when it's when it's you're trying to say the person no

no there's no there So, it was there in the place. And he that the, the place, in the porton to enter to the terrain,

the door of the porton was there. That was that he had to get to bring the maya. They had a

media barred and the maya so it was to be to bring to because not even thought that was going to be a tragedy.

No they're, they're talking of this. They're they're taking as a thing

paranormal. Yes. But they They were positioned in that they were in a place and that

they were in a type of things. Okay. They said you're an oracion

of the church for pedir for the place. So the person that is

going to tell to his abel what they had been lived to them. Okay.

And they said, it was this, this, this, this and so so,

so this, and the mother he said that very the mom, or

the they had contacted that she in this terrain had seen

when was very little that was in people and she reunia

at certain nights and that they were and that they

they're saying that the ex-abuela that the that the people

they were they they were they they're they they're they're

they're they're they're they're with animals that they'd in sacrifice

they're saying they're that one of the people that one of the person that he had

said that they had made made a pacto that all the most of the majority were

the majority of the people descendants of their descendants of their generation they were

to congregate in that and the bestia and coincidio that when they started

to talk to the majority of the bifelas or the mom of the ex-a-welas

were there and they had pacted that they were to in that the precise ludo

the pastor the pastor he gave the terrain and he took to move because the

socesos were concurrents imagine what you can't how much you have

to put your church in a place in a place in a place where's you think you think

you think that it's a sort of you think for the pacto that they've done

the people have been generationally I think I consider from my ignorance that's

that's a matter to the pacto yeah there's much coincidences

is much a much a much a much a much there are people that say

there are people that are people we're we're we're we top

with that anecdotas, where the things that happen have an origin and have a reason, and

in this case that was in a church, which is where many people have the concept of that is a

place, and independently of if it is or no it, I can't say is or not the things

too, the things that are that have succeeded, I think they have much to talk,

and there are people, and there people, and the Catholicism, the

Christianism, etc., that, that we say in the churches is where we're

many times to be the type of entities. Because there's where there's where the people that

in theory that's the same thing. For that I asked a video episode. Cres

that's sufficient one oration? Cres that's that can get to do that has been

before? Yes, so you can't go to but we've been we're

we're I'm I'm I consider of a a practice of a category major.

Not for any of any for any pastor. We're about someone adequate to to be able to

put us to what is what is what is that we're not going to exist an angels

or acyos but if entities demoniacas of low rank that much

sometimes are impregnated in the place in the place in the place there.

Now in this history was what I'm what I'm the

attention, no they're more detail. They're they're more than

they're there's that they're that they're what's invoked about. They said they

were that they were in bolas and they were doing more than that

of that's that's a santaia. A santaia. Yes. It's when they they're

they're they're to, as, as the four patas, to the animals to

for offrendersel to his santos to their to give us for any

kind of of a type of a petition or et cetera so we we've done that's

magic in whatever term it's magic but I know what a podcast that

me made that it so much I'm so much it had done but the

the stories were being very nervous I'm in the hands very

sudden with the If, there are stories that we're I think, I'm in the

audience. And we're onlyly what we do is narrarsel to you, and you have the

point of the final. I don't say this is real, this or no. I only I'm only

I'm just I'm and you all of the opinion, your point of the point of view,

and then with this culmination. How did you know? Well, it's a little

nervous. The fact, so, for the stories, no? And here with authorization of the

hefe I'm doing a commercial that's they're doing that's we're doing there's

we're saying no it's we're like yes we're we're saying we're saying we're saying we're

we're saying we're not they're not getting the stories we're saying to present them in this

format yeah of the family extra normal the relats the somebrals

of the anonymous yeah the majority are anonymous There are things bastante turvias.

We're there in the question to read Correos and it was in the last there's a lot. Like the family that's formed, the grand family

extra normal that has formed, we're we're our stories and for that we're to learn those and to share those. Thanks,

Oscar. Thanks to all the audience. I'll send a great abrazo and we'll see us a little

next week in this format where narramos the stories more siniestras written from

the sombers of the Anonym you know and a great breath of a lot of

care ands much to see much.