EXTRA ANORMAL - ¿Cómo detectar a un charlatán? Tarot y verdades incómodas | EN VIVO

Episode Date: May 17, 2026

Esta noche, en Extra Anormal Podcast, abriremos una conversación tan fascinante como polémica: el verdadero mundo del tarot, sus mitos, sus realidades y la línea peligrosa que separa una lectura honesta de un engaño descarado.🔮 Mitos y realidades más allá del tabú.⚠️ Cómo detectar charlatanes y falsas promesas.🃏 El arte de leer las cartas: simbolismo, intuición y responsabilidadUn programa para quienes creen, dudan o alguna vez se han preguntado:¿Me están leyendo las cartas… o me están leyendo a mí?📌 Acompáñanos en vivo, participa en el chat y comparte tu experiencia.🎙️ Extra Anormal Podcast: donde lo misterioso se cuestiona sin perder la profundidad.

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many many people that are presentes right they're many

doubts about the tarot even there are movies of terror that's

based on in the tarot and we're to make questions also

to also but questions that are very related to

the tarot open portals the tarot is good

or is bad or the tarot the the is the

demonio or is some other other spirit immund all

those questions questionments are going to be today for many people for many people

responded. So, about this thing, me accompany a person very special that also

that's going to be doing a talk about the people who get riddle, so you that's

put them, come-as commas, and also, that's there's a new

Mr. thank you to be to be us. Gato Cosmic, how you

are you know, thank you thank you obviously also, obviously, also,

also, in a great for this special, for this space.

And, I'm very, very well here, here, being the incredible

community that you have been, and then so, so, salutes for those

who are here, and, we, we'll to answer, we're to respond

these questions, and I hope that all, all, so, to,

what what's what is the tarot, what is the magic behind, so,

first, thanks, before, before, before The other people that you're doing today for

first time I'd like to presentes to do you a lot of your social projects, perfectissimo

of course yeah, I'm sure I'm tarotista I've got some time some years

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and so and for the people that are interested can even

to take directly in TikTok and in Instagram like Gato Cosmik the Gato Cosmik

or the arra gatokasm Cosmico 444. And in YouTube me can't find out like the

Gato Paranormal. There we contamers a little more of things of suspense. Perfect. Well,

much thanks. I'm I'm going to the question that you did it. Because many people are

to be asking us. Why? Not you you can't help? The part you're not

the because you're a cat cosmico? To start to be to start. I'm just.

For two. For two. And the the reign of my house, the duena probably of all my

perttenances, is a catita a negra. So the catito that for there can get to get to get

in my contacts, in my reds, is allusive to her. And Cosmico, because

it's a mess with a question. And obviously, the gats. Tartes to unirlo to that

manner, and basically, as is how nace the name of the gato Cosmico, the

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gats function as farianes so I like much that we're too. Here we're team gats,

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to Also, also, for there, uh, uh, some of other bruchos tarotistas,

well, it's not a good. The fact is that we're going to talk to talk to talk about so that's

this time, uh, prepare to, because then we're gonna because then we're, no, not it has

been to be to this, and then you get a burrugeries, to me has been passed. Yeah, is that,

I think a I think a I think a I think a I think a people are malintentioned, but if, if it gets to pass that,

uh, persons with bad intentions, justly there they're the, the chisor or, this, the ritual for, to,

but to bejudicart. To call it. Then do you do, do you do with a lot of cochinas for a lot of production. We're there,

uh, for a, this, uh, what is the first thing of this night that the catto-cosmic

us to talk exactly. Look, let's start with the mythos and realities more than the taboo.

Adelante, right. Exactly. Well, well, for to start, the mythos. Much

times the people acude to talk to but a sometimes it can be directly

for curiosity. In this point is very important that if you see, if you see you

sometimes the necessity to consultar to someone, you do do you

do you do you get a message especially dedicated for your situation

actual. What would one of the mythos principal? Here is that the tarot is that the

future. And then there people are that they're saying, ah, is that I'm to know,

is to be a very, here the question not is if you is, what you're doing the

day of today to do you? Sure. To work that's very easy to ask

it. We're not, we're not, we're actually actually, we're there's two corrients

of tarot. The first we're we could we have to be about the tarot evolutive, that what is justly is just to explain us in a form much more more profound and spiritual,

what is what is what is the context actual and give us a message to action. And we have, posteriorly, the tarot predictive. What is what

does, in the other to say us exactly what will be going to be a future, is to show us the

tendencies or possible can be we can't in case to take a, B, or C, and that

you can't be more sure of what you want to you. For that's it's a predictive, but not

it's a sentence, for example. So, much people think, for the questions, for

example, the theme that the tarot is exclusively to discover in what moment you're going

to go to this plan, in what moment to be going to happen to be

a lot augurial that's the when really you can actually you use the tarot

as a a tool of auto-connociment or, this, to understand from a perspective much

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that's a but even so I'm not I think that's something that's

something so I'm should be a situation quite particular, that's could get to

get to a person is a risk, but not as a time and the time

of that's true. Two, Preguntate two, because this is very sonated

in some communities religiousas and I do with much respect.

The tarot is satanical? No That's That's what For example Wait, I'm sorry

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compromised by the religion. So, what is what's what's what's what's

people, as a tendency of prediction or most they're not

they're not not even we're not we're not a instrument

of a animal or of the devil, and now. But really, from

my experience not is that is that is used by

this, the which the satanism could have people of this current that for the

course could use but in it's a instrument like a so that'sy like that'sy

so that like this terrible simply to detectar the malo okay who is the

who contest the tarot yeah the question goodish who really who really is that

that much people have that many people are to hear the cartas. That example.

I'm going to let me go the cards, but maybe the sense of credence, the idiosyncras

and everything, me makes feel that they're being able to let them the cards. Who is,

I know, I know, you know, I know, you're doing, but who is that backando

or how is going the information to the cards? Who contests? Well, perfect.

Here we can't talk to different methods. I tell from

my experience personal. When I I came to to the Tarot, basically

was because I've always had a connection with this thing of the thing of

the paranormal or spiritual and I took a pair of retiros

where I discovered that this was a something that was a ability,

that was you can know, but from my perspective I connect

with what I know my guides spiritual the universe

or God. Depend to the car that they want to put. But for me, that is the connection. Okay. Sure that there are other people who might have, I'm going to work with

a certain entity. With Satanas? Exactly. And Sakhanes? Can you connect? Yes. For sure. Wow.

Okay. So, who are people who are people who receive messages a time of them, but, um, from my perspective,

is a connection much more, this, neutral, much more emotional from this part. we have our

different the part that I've studied. And these guides are those that are the

connection with the divine. And it's like I canalize the messages. A basis,

from my perspective, I, when I'm when I'm a person, I'm, I'm going,

I'm they're and simply appear the cards corrects for that person.

And even you could say, they're saying, the message not the same,

because my days, me are saying, this person needs to hear specifically this.

This person has a problem, for example, emotional, is one more mental, and depending on the situation, it's

like I'm receiving the messages. I'll hear what would be a claria audience, but there are

who have other method in particular, but that's my connection and with me that's so how it's

so it. So, it depends much of what the person that he he's, he's,

with an archangels, with God, with the example. If I, I'm

right in the radio social there's a there's a a man, we're going to put a example,

that's that he's much of black, and this, and it's, and it's, like the

auriole and like this re-brilla here after one. But really this person not

a job with the dark, and it directly with demonious. And one person,

go and it doesn't, the person no, you know, you see, no, it's, no, it's, it's a bit chido,

is black, about God, the things and the lea the person, the person is the person who's the person, the

person, we're going to, because at final he's having this connection with that entity, and then here is very

important to have the eye critical, let's the card of presentation that you could you

could ask to a talk about this, is just the with who you know, because a

person, you know, you're you're just because if you just right, We, we have this idea of that the tarot is something diabolical,

then we're going to be a conclusion that, for suppose, what I say, that will be able to be prejudicor, or, posteriorly, will be a receive a brujeria? There I have, then, a doubt very great. What happens with a person that really is being engaged in the sense of a person, example,

because, what, what happens? There are recintos, where the person is in brujer, where the people have the statue of the Santa. has Sanjuda, has a legwa and has a lot of

images referent to different cults, creencers and religions. And a sometimes when the question

is, because if someone comes and has made and has said some of those who are

that we're we're but really this person with what is what is what is

that there's there what you'd what you what's what is what

is what is what is the there's a lot of the tautista but for example

that's a trick for me for so directly in my consults I don't

do I do something I don't have anything I'm not alusive to any angels

or entities and but I think that from when you

you get as a consultant and then then you see to you know if you

for the supposed, that you're to impose or to be done a matter, depending on the way of the form

or the altitude, or if you see, you know, a figure is a figure a particular,

you're going to say, this person. But then then I'm that dissonance of who is, and you

you're saying, with who is that connectant? Here I think that's that convenience. You can't

make the connections, for supposed, at a level energetic, but I think that you think

at the final you would be as a trotist a I'm a very

and I think the people don't have for sure

really who is you see a person you see the and you

say well me my is the question is the person that

is the person that is the person that's a connection that's maybe positive or

a and what what what does in my brother, I

no I'm doing nothing. I'm I'm a work with my proper energy.

Yeah. There, who contested then? Well, I'd asker more

for these persons that have been in cargated to understand the tarot from the

part of the symbol for example to this, at who you can't

you can't learn to you can't even a connection divina or spiritual?

Yes, if you can't because the tarot at final of day

are symbol or are archetypes and this, all of his

symbology and numerology us does a person that says, well, I'm

doing, I'm also spiritually maybe should be going to something

but let, let, say, so it in the same and for

this, at the the interpretation literal of the cards or

the symbols, I would be doing a lecture that at

final can be a positive but let's let's

let's that the confidence in the lecture. And is that I think they're

many not around of the tarot and we we've been mentioning because if they're these

questions that the tarot can't open the part of the things

that I have heard much I'm so you don't know so

there's there there's there there there and what you're

what you think you And, here, a lot of many, many, they're to say, that's true,

for me, if it's open, if it's over. Yes. Okay. As a tarotista,

is your opinion. Exactly. But there many, me has to have taken to this debate, and there's

people who said, for the tarot not, the tarot, no, no, it's a faculty. For me,

it's, because at final, you're more receptive as interpret. So, for example,

these messages that I canalize a time to the listen, not are, um,

let me a casuality, but if it's much of think it's very important that the

people have in mind how this and that's going to be there, this,

to get to get to get so much so, okay. And is it's important

that, I see, I, so, but no, no, no, I mean nobody in the

door. Yeah, we're in serious I'm going to do you know, in serious I'm thinking they're I'm saying,

I'm saying, I'm talking, I'm not, a chicharo, because the other production me manda information of what I'm saying,

I know, we'll talk, so yeah, it's a lot of, I'm talking, I don't know they're talking about, but no,

no, it's nobody. So, production, yeah, I'm going to know, but well,

we're going to we're going to the time. We'll let me, let me, commentaries. If you have any questions

referring to what we're talking, family, for favor, the salutitos, we're to just to make us to make us for the people

make a lot of these questions. Is it possible interpretase in the cards? One of the question. For sure,

that's the final, we'll come back to the point. This is a system of symbols that if you can

learn to know, it can't do the classic tirada of the day, what message

you need to know and at the final of day you have your message. Okay,

is that you know, you know, you know, you're not, it's like, this idea that's

a bit of in the world magic of you, for example, you know you can't get to

you know, and you can't do that you can't do that, it's like, it's like,

it's like, it's like, something in this this world, you know, he's, like,

and he's, and yeah, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, is that you're doing a question of tarot.

The tarot is more a lotto, go more a lot more a lot more a lot more don't see me desperen.

No so I'm desperen. He's, I'm revertir to try of that not can't

do you say, that's good question. That's good and also also. This, if I'm

back, no, tarot not is a sentence, Paco. Tarot, what does do, we

do you know, we're we're going to go, we're going to no, is that But at final, if you

you take the decisions, Tarot, you know, what you can what can happen but not what is a lot of

a lecture predictive. We're talking about, we're doing, we're doing a panorama, pardon, not so

positive or disagree, of the to be able to beckonable, for support, there are things

that will not be not sound as well not come so lastimed lastimed in case

that that that's going to happen that that we're in the reason

of the situation in our life and it's always a little so that's

still giving the opportunity to show to show to show and to be actioner

not always is like yeah is this what is that's definitely no

there's no there is that it's very interesting me it's

the tarot is the any ritual? Well, activation as a lot,

I'm my experience. Okay. You tell me, let's do you? It's what I do.

What is what I do? And this also is that the person, of a character a new, that I'm that I'm going to

I'm going to I'm sorry. I've got friends that have a lot of masos yeah. I'm a

friend, I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that's chido. I think of here of the other content of the podcast.

But this, just basically, what happens? When you adquired a tarrot, you can't start it

normal, but if you want to give you, your vibra or your energy, what we can

do you do you do you? You're to be to do I'm sure I'm

with incoenceo of mirra or with a palo santo. Always to me. But that lecture not is like, oh, what message

there is? No, more well, how I can't work with you? So, I'm involved the masso in

the incinso of Mirra, this, or in the Palo Santo, and I go intentioning. What is this

of the intention? Mentally, you have the power to make that this object,

that at final, we're a piece of a piece of a psalmine or the energy,

and what is what is I'm a tarot. Now you and we are one-missom and we're to work as a tool

to make a tool for able to give the messages adequate for every consultant.

And, I'm, I do I'm a first tirade where I think I can't

work with him, how I perceive as I interpret what are what are

what are to be to answer? So, I'm also for example,

for the theme of the theme of money, and those that respond So, from the other point,

here, how you work energetically for intentioner your tool. And at final, it can do with the mazo of tarot or with any other instrument that you want to use as part of your

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before, during, and after and after a lecture, all this

of what what's because if we're our here is our invitation that we

know the person like the because there also there's the

message that you can't an certain that one a person should

have to when a tarotista or will be the

first thing you do you observe this. Banderas Rojas. Banderas, clear. There's various

questions for there. That in the personal, I mean, as tarotista, no, me incant, and when I have the opportunity to say to the people, in what they're fission, is the second. Point number one, if you're doing the lecture and at

finalize, terminus, endanguil, banderita roger. There's situations where probably you just maybe not got it was not really not really the tarot

not always you're going to you're going to what you're but the regular would that you keep you

with a sensation of clarity and of action is that I understand now I'm to actionar to get to

to get to that result or change to point number two if after this lecture that's

after you keep intranquil you're they're that's also a signal

very great because not is that a little not necessarily you need to but there people who

have used in the sense in the lecture it was that you know you're going

to get a a problem and you go to you're going to pass to the

other plan if not you don't you deposit a certain kind of

so so I think this has to make to make to make

a head because not is normal that if you just you pay you pay us after you

want to be you're going to pay you pay you to discover something or for that's a super

signal this is a like a alerta also if you as you as you're

not vibras with your tarotista and this all the more is to do to do

much because every everyone every people enfoques, you can

change it. So, no, you know, you know, there's people who people who are

this person and this person know this question, me do confidence, and I'm a lot of

her or with her. Adelante. But if in some moment, you don't want to continue

consulting, you can look to there's a question. There's a question. There's a

question the card to chat GPT. What? What? What do? What do?

What do the lectures of card that you can do do you can't

say, you know, Paquito, perguntal if you can't try the cards and

let's let's see, I've seen that TikTok do you do it,

I'm doing my experience because I did it so I'll know,

let's be what, but you do you do you do you do

do you don't know I'm for the name of the process to

know to know to know to to be, just recently I've seen a video about this part

of reading the tarot with intelligence artificial and we're that here is that if you for example

you have had been conversations with your intelligence artificial the intelligence that is what

does, is what he is going to put into much emphasis in your situations actuales

or at the question that you when you when you what will what's

that's going to that's a way you have done earlier here I'm going to

there's there's there's there's you get to first first with a time and

even so you resuene the message that you share the so it

so it is that there's the intuition the the intelligence artificial no

has to the part of the intuition can it's like what we

just we just this person that learn a through the symbolology,

of the numerology, or of the astrology. But not as a part, for example,

there are tarotists that are people, others that have been, others that have been that

have been with certain messages and then they get the consultant and they understand that

that person so that part is the that that is the part is the that doesn't

that that's that that's that I'm that moment,

if did, but to me he made information not referent to the information

classical, no, me said, damn, almost, the information to get your card

natal. Yeah. He said, apart the number, the date of the birth of

the birth of the day, so, the day, so, a lot, a lot of

information, and we remember that the intelligence has So, you can also

give your message with these data, taking in account the knowledge that you have been,

obviously, it's been a response very disangelated, very, very, so that humanity,

that you mean, but occupant the protocol simple of the medition, if you can get to

get to something? For sure, at the time of the day, he's

using the data that's use are for example, to calculate a matrix of the

destiny, a cart astral. So, taking into that here not only only only

it's a not only of astrology, the theme spiritual, numerology, numerology, and various

things, for supposed, that something, that's a thing that will have to about the abilities, of values,

of the development, of the knowledge, of creativity, then so, for suppose, in

a little going to get to this sensation of, me know, me know me,

me know more than my mother, no. It's that I, in his moment, I paid my card, Natal,

and if I said things like very exactas, but I did I much information me. I said, I did too

information me. I mean, I was like, oh, the beastia, brujeria, but it's very interesting.

Let's go back the next because I think it's a really the pain, and we're we're doing

the time of how detect to these charlatans. What is what you're saying? There are

more bandera Rojas? Yes. For example, if all the lectures, for example, with some people,

they're always they're in the same, for example, there are people that's always to be able to the topic.

I'm in, in my content the things of adults. Okay. No, I know, I'm,

I'm going to have this activity of adults, and activity of adults, and activity of adults, and

it's like, they're like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's part of, but not all,

it has to to engage there or to finish in. It's like if always it's like it's

the same I'm not so it's that's what's the normal, for example, that's the

time, for example, your first, your first, you're a little of the context. Not that

you're just you're just, but for example, vincal. Oh, well, result,

I'm my, I'm going to ask for Pedrit. Who is Pedrit? No,

well, result, that Pedrito is my ex-sposo and I want to know there's a bit of there's a ex-esposo there's like the

actor, you could interpreter if you can't you can't you know, is the person, who's who is the person who is,

but if they're trying to, for example, to take all this information of, well, and what is your

RFC and the three digits of your target of your cardita of that's no, no,

no, okay, there, there's some that's that are,

you would you would you would you create this codependency of that this person me lea

for the one of the time. Because there people that is a very addicted to the

to the things, it's a thing, it's a thing, I'm going to learn me.

Mayn't I'm so, what on with this? Interesting so, well,

what's what's what you when you insist with a question

to tarot, tarot, what can pass? That's like, you know,

you know, you know, you're like you need to you know and the thing you

do you know, reciclar and recal the response. But who don't want to

let that's what he did that is a person, is who is the consultant. So,

then, so, I think it's very interesting. If you detects, for example,

that with you're to be to learn the tarot, all the

time you have the door to consultate frequently for the same thing, he's

that's the normal. One, as you know, one as the energy connect with the other person

and the person to make his decisions and see at the final, when someone, for example,

he goes to when I'm when I'm doing a newament to let's give, if you you're going

to consultate for the same theme, no you can't go back this, before you

know, no, because, because no, because no, why, you know, because no,

you're going to get, you need, and you know, and it's, and it resone, no, resono,

no, resonant this lecture. Because, we can't start and then then exist that sensation

like that something, and the people depend, to the, at the, maybe, tomorrow,

yeah, can be, this situation is different, or and he will go and

not is so. A lot of there's a process that you have to have done

to do that you know, that's that you know, that's not you

don't want to ask for the same before the first of you know

that you do you do you do you do you okay here I'm

here I'm you're you have been a person that has

to be with the tarot example and I I said, or he said in the tarot, this, that will be able to do that. Probably not do it, and it's

in a situation very lamentable. Yes. Yes. Could I be able to two panoramas. The first, a person, this, that insisted with, this,

his interests amorous. But, no, like, well, I'm going to, this, this, that I think that's

a moment where it was even a way it was that it was not going to be a different or that's

people are to be good or reciprocous I felt that I'm there's a because the people

many times acude to talk that will find that the solution to their problems

when really is a tool for that can do that it's a all so

it's like like to make it. And it's in a context and other not it

not would not but in my experience what I have passed. Let us

when one's go foggeando in this time of the tarot well

at the first you receive you also you can

you can't you can't you know in my case things

of things so I'm don't I don't I

do another of those things is the thing of I'm a druggeria me have been working

and they did you do you and a person and a person just he was

consultable with me frequent but not so not in form insistent

but sometimes I got to ask that person me did a

work energetic or or and and the majority of the

most was not but when I I I'm specifically

for a person this, no se, this, a certain woman

that I have done on magic a new, has been in contra of me, that has

been one of the last that's been of my trajectory is I made because

I'm I've done about two, three days, but because the interpretation

direct was a so, cards being directs, many of many of

some of the people like the a summa sacerditia, a torre, a murder, and the devil,

and that part, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sure, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, and just, you know, I was talking, you're still you're going,

you know, you're going to do you, and when you know, and it's like, but, then it's like,

but, well, it's like, no, don't contestes this, I, so,

and, So, then it's a drenu and I do you know and I'm going to do

the same time of the person of this woman for the question of the she was a factive of if you're doing

that's manipulating, if I'm manipulating to tell that's, if I don't want to and I'm

I'm I'm done a part of then I I'm quite from this perspective or this

question of me They're doing brujing because it's very frequent

this consult. Let's see what the people? I've seen that

one of the questions more frequent is really really

me are doing really saying why? Because the

the mason of the tarot can get to get to only? Yeah.

Because because to be from my experience again what what is

I do? these cards directly they want to give the message a little you're doing the barrageada

no, of your mason me has to be that yeah and the normal would be they're going

accommodating so interchambe and intercal and they all normal but when you're doing this

usually they're they're going to be or they're to go or they're so over that they

can but they're they're the car of the arcano what you what

What's the card specifically is for a situation or complemented of the message that needs to that person? Look at it.

Here you're doing some asking some questions. Dice what when the tarotista you suggest a question.

Okay. For example, I'm just I'm reading to you, why don't you ask this?

What on with that? Yeah. There, you as you as a question, you know,

or if I'm It's like, for example, the adequate would be that in a lecture of Tarot, I, for example,

I do you, I'm sure to say to do you know, to formular a question with your question, ask them,

I'll, let me count about your question and they say, but I don't know how to question

it, then I'm going to formular your question, and you me says, what is the that you

think, well, no, we're going to do this form, we do this correct would

that the consultant eliza your question or that's it's not it's not

how you're to say, but a time when you suggest the tarotist a question is because

a little one, if it's necessary that you make that you're to contextualize

the message but also you you'd to detectar if it's like to try to

disviar the look that if could be to get to this result of

the kind of Well, Compram this, because we've seen that if you

have a thing in a lot of when I'm much careful when I'm about this I'm not,

I'm not, I'm, for you have to you know, it's very interesting because

also there is the tarot of the runas. So what you think the tarot of the runas?

I'm like, I don't know I'm not I'm I'm but I

think it's other method of interpretation also that can give much know

and at the final you're you're you're with the energy of the energy of

the person and that really really in a message. There's there are

many questions very in the comments that are that make reference

to all this can for please a little there there

and there says how can can manage a

can how how For example, when you do a lecture to talk about to talk about specifically with

canalize? When you get you get as a letter, not only you get as a message,

you're going to share your energy, the person, the interpreter, the person, the person, what is the

thing, when there is this interchamble, you're you're doing the response, there exists the canalization,

and of the letter, your connection, yeah, or so, with their

entities, with his angels, or what or what he connect. But I think what he

is just to talk about that's about that that's a interchamble and I think that

a lecture, a good tarotist will connect to and much times, a little maybe,

maybe, so it will be able to connect with your emotions, but the thing,

the ethical or the professional would that not so it's like

that's a part of the thing of the thing something that also I'm

maybe I've always had forgotten in this is that the tarotist not has put a

question in the consulte of tarots so even even if you have been at the

more exists, at the most there's this person that has said

that I've said that I'm not the not you're you're not you're not co-bid-ed-or-res-res-dhist,

you're just judged for your decisions. Tarotista? Your opinion? Personal, afloire. Look, for there,

they're saying people that is favorable or not is the recommendable that a person like a family,

you can't learn. That's true. Well, I don't say that is precisely malo,

but, um, dependeria too, of the degree of the person.

For example, between my know of my existe a lot of people that's a person who's

dedicated to this thing of the esoteric. And the mama read the tarot, the papa

and the kids also what happens. What's what happens, you know, to your figures

reading the tarot, the normal would be that too could you couldest ask them but what

the first in the family exists the first person that's the first

And if you, as familiar, even if you don't see confidence with that family, then you don't leave it

with someone distinct. Yeah. It's very interesting and that have much care with who they

are you to get a about, so when there family, I think it's more easy that a person

not receive a much and it's more a question of I know this type I know

that is that is that is that is so, yeah yeah I'm

basically this idea with a message, no? Yes. We'll see the next thing

because it's putting very interesting and over the thing of the charlatan is much quite a family because many people really

are there to be jodying to the other people, the art of the cards. Let's talk about us our mano.

Well, here we're going to enter in a debate. Much people a long long of the time we've talked

a little this, tarot is can't be able to with or without and here

many much people are going to get to get a much opinion but what

what you do you as a person although a most connected

to the world spiritual or esoteric for suppose you can you

have been I've had been discussions too because it's

like it's a kind of to learn a new new idioma. It's like to learn some

an equation. You can learn to learn to learn to learn the tarot independently of the

way or not a connection and you do you know but you do you know. But we're that you

would be what you do you know that's what does what different to someone that's

from a method of the way is the thing of the channelization and the intuition

that is different. You can see you can see, well, the tendency is this, because, for example, if me sell in the sorrows, we're talking of the theme material,

if me salem the spades, the thing mental, if me salem the copas, the theme emotional, and if I'm salem those bastos, the theme of the action. But, this, more than that,

you need to have this other part and, oh, no is that you can't do it, only that you do do, just to other level of conscience.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is that I've been this time with people that learn the tarot they say,

is that the part of the part of the tarot you can't how use it. So, any other

it would use. But it's like the method basic to interpreter each part of

the tirade I can interpretant and apart there's like you who, that are

and you, who are and Vientes that during this tirada more

the time, they're like the messages, the they're they're

the visions and they say, ah, okay, and it's a complemented with the same card, no? So, I think that for me, honestly, Paco, for me, the best would be that where the practice with really the theory of what

it's, it's, that's, it's a, but I, in the side spiritual, I'm receiving this message. For me, it's has much more, but so, no, I'm if I'm equivocal, you, what do you think of that? Yeah, no, completely of the

of this, let's you know, you can you can't learn to talk the guitar,

let's do you, but not you're going to do you in the same level than the other people.

And that doesn't say that not you know, but only that not so that's

professionally now. Now, what is what is what is what a person that's

that's a lot of this things generally would have to have this

connection developed a through also also you you can receive these

messages. As I say, there are people who can hear, that they're that they're they're

but that's just exactly what he does the a little a lot of not only you're not

you're saying, but also for a person that a long of the time has learned much to

understand this energy, backer and give to you to do to you to do you for you

I think it's very interesting the to take in into into all this aspects before that one person pida

a tarot and I think that's super the way to know it because many times, you can't

terminate with a bad experience no. Exactly. We're going to go to get a

rapidissimo, we're going to go to get a little to get them what they're

to have for the questions? Yeah. I, if we're to the suerate,

only with your name, for the date of the date of not, no, generally I'm

generally, I'm going to do you're a question rapid, with your name, and the question?

The question, and if you want to ask for someone, the this person,

perfect. Family, for you have a list, right, your question,

regressando, regressando, of this court, we're very rapid, your question,

your question, and your name, the date of the name, the the people

the people but only is your question and your number. For that you're going

to get this lecture express for some people who I'm sure that are expecting a message

that's important and that probably today get that that much is waiting. Family, for favor not you

get us we're back. We're thank you all. Thank you so far not so we're

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Let, let's to get for the people, please, your questions and your number complete

because this so it's going to put very interesting. Before, I want to send a little bit of a community of podcast extraordinary, that is present in Mexico and in all the world for here,

rapidly at the velocity of the light, then I'm going to be able to the comments because it's impossible to learn those. Dicebett Garcia, says,

for there, yeah, I'm just, his question, but, oh, no, no, don't, no, don't,

don't, I'm, I'm talking to me. No, I'm just saludating to the people. also is here

Anna Vega that's ready and she says what the cards me want to hear of the here we're also a

julies that's present and says family yeah we're so we're so much thanks

you're ready listissimo we're we're gonna we're we're gonna because it's

going to put goody production us and you're so mero you just you're

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at the hour when you say, yeah, I'm going to do this, and the commentio that will be

the commenter, that's all to say the maldardat the first commentary discarded, so I'm,

I'm, I'm a because it's the first decartado because the reina of the angels that

said what the cards that said that's the first that's the first the first

the example. It was an example. I did. Another opportunity. He said, no, Sal did, no, and I was

just at the turn where not he took to learn the card. No. You imagine? That's, that's,

okay, when you me say, a man, to the count of three. There's he put it.

Oh, Demone. The monio, the commercial. Okay, there's, when you say, when you say,

all you know, to me say, to say, let's, there. There's, there. For here

I have a Roberto Carlos Contreras Basque says when

when when was more young he could be there

I negue that I could recover recover could recuperate

that ability um is all okay let's let me

let me repeat no number number but Robert Carlos

Contreras Vasquez Robert Carlos Contreras Vasquez Talot you

Show me, if Robert could connect to connect to with your ability, a heart

conflict. So, I'm block you for what we've got a five of

things about, what about that about that about recuperate, so I

think that there's a little more in camera. What does the thing?

In specific, that you need to be you need to be what you I'm what you're

not in what you know what you're not in what you're in the time played with this ability

and for the time you could you're going to get the card of the final of the

maso yes you can't for the last of but the blocker is just that

resistance to think that is something to think we're to make this

message in a yes if if you can okay there

is the response for Robert Carlos Contreras Vasquez. Muchism thanks. And they're

getting getting the questions. Family, for favor, not forget your like, subscribe to

to this channel in this in this in- live, because it's putting very,

very interesting. Now, so, my dear, Gato Cosmico, the moment that you

me say, so. In trance. In trance, not, so, in a part of the mudra,

no? Yeah, so the light, let's a very. There, there.

There's a, there's a. We have Esmeralda Gonzalez Nagera What the cards Me

Kier Okay Esmeralda Gonzales Nager Let's see What you What you

What you What is The message If you're Is it Occulted I don't Why is

But is that So, so you have to put it So it So

Yeah Let's Let's I'm Let's I'm I'm I'm

I'm What's what the cards me want to say? There's something that are going to

communicate to be the first of them? No, they're there? Yeah,

let's see. Esmeralda. A favor. We need a little the part

of the mentality. We have the As of Invertido what does this, that we

do this, that we do a sometimes, to think, what we're something we're so it's possible.

So, Emerald, if this message resuena with you, need to give that

value to your person because we have an emperatrice inverted. Me, I'm about a little

about a bit of not to not only not only not only of the material, but also of the

love and the carino that is your end the endorna. So, Emeralda, we have

to empower us because you have a card to a great great, and the reina of

of bastos is just movement, it's just actionary. So, we're trying to the confidence and the

there's the message, super clear, and very positive also, no? Perfect, a bit,

let us for here. The chat in vivo, we're going how you're getting the lot of

comments, messages, the repented, like, it's like, it's

not, no, no, we can't talk about. No, let's see. There,

There's We have We're a Maria del Rosario Miranda He says Cubos But probably

is cobos Or cubos Well, no I see And so He said A year He said

Me Marko But I But I'm Can't I What I What I What I'm

Repit Is your name Just a Miranda Miranda Cubos Maria del

Rosario There was There something I had to A be.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. It's very from the part

emotional. There's to have a little the sensation of being a preensive. The

to be something can be something that a more I want to say

to be because at a position that rigid in the life,

it would affect you. And he preoccupied much this because he's

a person with much love to give, we're in the two de copas that

about the confidence, that about this sensation of security and of

confidence. So, also, we're about this vincal for the question is

time to actionar you, you're a four of spas inverted, then

four of spas inverted, us we're just this moment of

the life where we have to get us because the time to get a time to get that the things are all and then it's

not going to change nothing if we're going to make a mentality more future. Now we're the reina of

Bastos Inverted that me really about that I'm about that kind of people who

maybe at some time not even they've been done. But it's asking much the

part of not to not to not get callied and to not to

get to a medias with the things, but to confrontal the

life with a for what that's that you that's there. There's

the message that she could have received of this person. I'd think it

difficult, no, that maybe not, that maybe not was the

opportunity to to be to but I think there's a

important that needed to know he gave the opportunity to hear the muchismas thanks

you know if we're if we're super you're saying we're let's see let's be

let see there is is Gustavo Adolfo Renandes Rocha and said

me would be like to be I don't know I don't see if they they're oh no

so they're he's he's actualized it's me would be something what is what is

what is what is the cards of me Gustavo Rocha Hernandez Rocha Hernandez Rocha

Gustavo Adolf Hernandez What are the cards of you? Let's see Okay Bam

Super No, we have to be so terco Gustavo Ulii Directo Directissimo

for that Caballero of Bastos Invertido Uh A Sometimes we think that the

life is putting much in the position of that all is a difficult when really who

really who really you're you're you're you're what you know,

you're a kind of a little you know, you know, that about just

of processes mental much more more more and to action

to go to directly to those ideas that

much you have thought that could functionart to to change

habits, to change this receive a lot of conducts also

that have done much do much potential. Dentro of this this

facet rigid you have the card of the star is marvell this

card because we know to have to have to be to be

vulnerable not has to be a synonym to

have a contrary. It's about to be a person much more

connected with your reality. If in some point of the life,

you need specifically to talk to someone about what you feel you don't

you keep call. So, with the people of your confidence

or that someone of your confidence because you know, the card of

the force, you also is an excellent card as a

message came to say that you have a great potential

only only you don't know to accept the opinion of the external and decide what is

the best for you even if a little you need to you need to because the force

about also about a character a character but also with an self-estim that I

do a very very very very very very positive

the message there there there is perfect Gustavo, Adolfo Hernandez, Rocha. There is the message. Let me, a second.

Let me see. There's a... When you do me you know, when you know, let's see. Me vibra. It's for...

Fiatty, it, it's been rare, in that moment like the chat was... So, it was... It was for

it. It was for... Angelus Nava Bustamante. Angeles Nava. Angel Nava Bustamante. And,

like the Carta Giacar want to say, related to the love. Okay.

There's Angelus Nava Bustamante. There's a day of day of day of that day of

that that's that needs to understand or hear about the love. So,

so, oh, super well. Papa, yeah, yeah, we know. We're,

we're, we're, we're going to be mom, of synchonies. Well,

casi, yeah. So, that here says that you're going to get to get back

me, I'm going. I mean, this, we've got to this is the card this is the

card of, you know, the effect maternal, also of a energy very protectorer,

then, angels, if in some moment, you know, you know, you're doing

more, so, at the more if we're doing because emperatrice is to be a

figure that not a about a a person that's a person that's really a really

potential of this desire to to have connection family but let us create your

your own your own there's a problem because we're the world inverted could be

to believe that is something that is something that is a lot of that is a story

a but I think you'd have to think you think we let's mentalize to that it's

possible not because someone that's for you but you you're just you're nine

of cupas the novel that's the novel about about the plenitude about

the well of the bestor emotional although of if of we

we're we're because you I think for the sun inverted

that here is like, is that not going to get, is that not me going to be a

other, is that I'm like, that they're like they're in a point where they're where they're

much better in the aspect of the love, that you, but not it's not to be

what is what there's the there's not you who you who has you have all that

that's that has been to do that there only you you're

just you you're you're you? friend. Yes. And it's a lot of

a lot of a lot of some little blocked as a is a message much of change, this is what I

think I'm a like a lecture to do this. It's like a sentence and it's a better than the last

time, okay? Okay, here I'm still the telephone for that can't be that there

can't be legality in all this we're getting public of those that are connected

No. Connected There. Rosa Maria, Valencia, Augustine, 43 years, 8th

September. What the cards me want to send us to general. Rosa Maria Valencia

Augustine. Rosamaria Valencia. Tarot, show me what message needs to know,

know, come from there. You have been there the commentary, production?

It's a lot of the immensity Rosa Maria Valencia Justin there's

there's there's there so you're for there many times thank you let's see

Rosa Maria let Rosamaria okay yeah we're we're we're

we're we're the Diablo so what we're so that's what we're we're

we're going we're seeingn't in the same things that probably we're

we're we're we're is the place known, what we call the

zone of comfort. So, if we do a fear something, is because

certainly we're going to change perspective or or change a room

or or to be this, you know, you know, you know, the 10 of

us would be the creation, stability, material, but at being being

not a problem, problems, problems in what aspect familiar, problems a little

of disconfiance because you have made various things to the

whole of our life but that is very important that we don't

we have to be to the things that you have to you

have there there there there there is that

the building in a place in a not cemented or

where you something that you did that is

very very that's very that whatever that I'll want to

build to do you not not be not not sure so we're we're

we're we're we're we're so we're just this sensation that the

things because all the time the entire we're we're

we're we're also that we're a lot about that that's

like that we're like we're the aspiration is today the

aspiration not never be this agena or or sentirese

like that's like you don't know you have to get in the place

correct to your own your own your but he's kind of

kind of that's kind of no no I don't do I'm not I'm that's

that's that's very, much much much careful because when

they're like they're like the the about the changes that practically

they have to implementer, no? Yeah, and Diablo just also is one of the cards most temed,

but we're just the lot of the lot of our things that we can't get to us in

our life or those connections with bad habits or conducts. Wow, it's been good-

this in-vive. I think that's clear- many things. Many people have the information

that really were still they were stills and other that were resolved

and messages that were necessary. How did you do you know about this? Marivisamely well,

a great, a great to be here to be here, comevibed also with your community. I hope

really that who people received here a message to the tarot they resue and they

functioned and for the that could do it can be that can have been

that can have been that can't be the part also of, this,

like, with this world, a lot of this thing that I'm really a thank you. Thank you,

my car cosmic. I'm, I'm so name, it's chidissimo. Before, to go ahead, for favor,

regalons the media social, projects, and platforms. Sure, that's, but,

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babies cosmic that, uh, can't be sumars for there, and that

they're very, so that's, so, because I really, I'm resone in the mind

so, so, so, so, the same, the the overnomber me said,

Michie, I, so, baptized, so, so, so, Oh,

yeah, Gato, or Michi or Gatito. And I also, I'm too, meo, meow, meo. I mean, so, yeah, it's part of it. Perfect. Randa, muchissive. Thank you, so.

Thank you. All right. Let's ask us. For those that's probably about the evidence, we're going to pass for the next

week, because in this we've got to talk, but, but, well, is that they're two minutes of evidence

for that you don't see the final. And we're in another episode. Until the next. Ciao. Family,

we're in the Inferno. The get at this point is very difficult. We can't breathe very well. We have much presence of the

of the human. It's even dangerous to in this city. We are in the catacumbas of Chakultepec,

a part oldidae of Dolores. We're we're going to get to Brujos, come here for

whews to get to have to have mortals to they're here what

is the what is what I'm know but not big so there's

there there's actor, Hector, Hector, Hector, Hector, Hector, Hector, Hector, I'm here, He's a

little, something, something, something, this place have been have been a

man children yes or no