EXTRA ANORMAL - Conocí al Demonio: Trabajé con un Político que Entregó a su Hijo de 4 años al Diablo

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

⚠️ Advertencia: Este relato es perturbador y no apto para todos los espectadores. Prepárate para conocer los horrores que pueden esconderse detrás de las puertas de la política. 🔥 La polít...ica y lo sobrenatural se cruzan en una historia de terror real. En este impactante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias entrevista a "La Contadora" (nombre anónimo para proteger su identidad), quien revela el escalofriante relato de su experiencia trabajando con un político que cruzó todos los límites de la humanidad. 👻 Temas aterradores: Pactos diabólicos y rituales oscuros. El sacrificio de un niño de 4 años para ganar elecciones. Presencias demoníacas y marcas rituales en el cuerpo del político. La influencia de brujos y santeros en el mundo del poder. 🎧 Dale play y adéntrate en esta oscura revelación que te dejará sin palabras.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It was a fiesta where there were many persons major than I, until that he was acerco this man, and me started to do the platica, me started to talk, he was a political. To the precandidato, contrary,
Starting point is 00:00:17 also, who, he disappeared. A day that I came in his office arrangling those papers I heard
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm talking about with this person that always he had to do something that had to
Starting point is 00:00:36 do something but that had been to look the way to gain but that that all
Starting point is 00:00:45 I needed a sacrifice to hear the the little the new he was
Starting point is 00:00:53 they were where was to be the circle only when one of those people took a Cuchillo
Starting point is 00:01:01 I'm a Coochie What How much? Welcome to a podcast extra abnormal. My name is Pac-A-Ras and I'm very
Starting point is 00:01:41 happy to be here with all of you family, I want to mention something in this moment. The chapter of today is a
Starting point is 00:01:50 that not up to for us. It's a chapter of the most the most that we've brought
Starting point is 00:01:57 because it's a testimony that was someone that was the same demonio
Starting point is 00:02:04 in life. It's something that I repeat not for
Starting point is 00:02:09 everyone. The person that we have the day of day of
Starting point is 00:02:13 a political Mexican and he lived things so
Starting point is 00:02:19 so so cruel and He was a person, and is a person that has a person that has been a process legal. He's a, already in a process of rehabilitation. So, I ask you a lot of respect, family,
Starting point is 00:02:38 because the person that today is with us, we've decided to guard her identity, a person who we're going to refer to her, as the contadour. How are you? A little bit nervous for being judged, but, well, I've passed a process
Starting point is 00:02:54 and this I think san a little my heart. Thanks for accept the invitation. I've mentioned
Starting point is 00:03:01 to all the people who got a call your your call your post you shared just a
Starting point is 00:03:06 few years when we we were what you wrote you wrote you, it's
Starting point is 00:03:12 something we we don't we don't we can imagine it's something that,
Starting point is 00:03:18 the real family are things is that, as I mentioned, there
Starting point is 00:03:25 we've mentioned, but the same man is much times more malignant than any other
Starting point is 00:03:32 other life. You can tell your story? Well, this starts in
Starting point is 00:03:39 the 2014. I had I was about of 18, 19 years. You compare to
Starting point is 00:03:46 that I have been of a family very humble, where you
Starting point is 00:03:51 cacet, always was present, the necessities, and as a woman
Starting point is 00:03:57 and young, I always I always wanted to live good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I saw amistades that lived much better than I, and in my
Starting point is 00:04:08 heart always there was so I was I was I I'm the way to
Starting point is 00:04:15 get the money in the sense to form those Concegoes of
Starting point is 00:04:20 HOMES. Okay. For this was very very beautiful, it was of the children that were
Starting point is 00:04:30 the attention of a good person. So, so it came to me the
Starting point is 00:04:37 friend of my coonado and when I'm so beautiful me invite to a fiesta
Starting point is 00:04:43 where I would to be politicians and people of money because I had
Starting point is 00:04:48 commented of that I had. So, then we went to a fiesta, me present to a a man,
Starting point is 00:04:59 a man, that he had much money. In our city was one of those that had a major
Starting point is 00:05:05 acquisition, cars. I'd be a present and it was a place where there
Starting point is 00:05:13 was a person mayors than I, and And there was much people until
Starting point is 00:05:22 that's me so I'm approached this man and me started to do the
Starting point is 00:05:26 platic me he was to talk he was to be for a campaign
Starting point is 00:05:33 not I don't to mention the post or not to not do that not
Starting point is 00:05:37 very very very certain to him I'm he
Starting point is 00:05:42 invited first to look to me about of all the ambitions that he had that he was
Starting point is 00:05:50 better. Practically, I went to the idea of to work with the first and to know. The truth, I got a much the interest.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I saw the opportunity to grow what I was going. Passed the time and me still inviting to
Starting point is 00:06:06 other places. To not start the quote very long, at the less of the
Starting point is 00:06:13 month, I was just I was in the country. As I was studying Contaduria He started to
Starting point is 00:06:20 give me the work that I would give to all the Pagos all the the compas
Starting point is 00:06:27 and that was what I was what I did this he always was very atent
Starting point is 00:06:32 with me I I had the intention independently of that it was to work
Starting point is 00:06:40 I knew that in some something something something going
Starting point is 00:06:43 to go Okay. Passed the time. We went and we're more more.
Starting point is 00:06:52 The truth I'm going to say, I'm coquetia. I want to form
Starting point is 00:06:58 part not just of his circle, but I was a opportunity to grow
Starting point is 00:07:04 he. He had a family? Yes, he was a casable. Okay. I had
Starting point is 00:07:09 three children. But that's family really no I'm important. I was
Starting point is 00:07:16 what I wanted was the money was the mentality of a young
Starting point is 00:07:20 that we think we're so I'm I'm my love
Starting point is 00:07:26 so I'm so we start we start in
Starting point is 00:07:31 what is the pre-camp and and something that I was
Starting point is 00:07:37 was he was he was a attention all
Starting point is 00:07:40 what is brusheries, esoterism, all that ram oscura that of brusheries and that went
Starting point is 00:07:50 much to Katemak or places where I knew that there were bruchos and bruchos went and those visitable
Starting point is 00:07:57 to him. I was to percat of this for the pagos that I did. He
Starting point is 00:08:03 me said that would be that money to that a place or to get a person
Starting point is 00:08:08 to get a person to I'm talking of quantities very grand. How was the maximum
Starting point is 00:08:13 that you did a one of these people? They were maletines. Maletines of the
Starting point is 00:08:19 money. Never you ever really he had to give to the maletines
Starting point is 00:08:24 and he was going to get this person, and he's okay. Really money cheques
Starting point is 00:08:31 and so not always were quantities in effective. Okay. In the in the
Starting point is 00:08:36 intimacy of me a sometimes, she kept with me. I was really, really there was a point in which I thought in love me to him, because I was all, but there were
Starting point is 00:08:48 moments or days in those or days in those that were very different. Different in what manner? When these people came and it was me perl'd for two, three days, or he was, he
Starting point is 00:09:00 was, he was, he was, and just had to do. And so, with the other people. but different with an attitude that in really at times
Starting point is 00:09:11 me'd because he he was he was he was at the principle very carinoes and always
Starting point is 00:09:18 about the grandesses and had the same ambitions that I wanted he had
Starting point is 00:09:23 him more and that was what I was what I but
Starting point is 00:09:28 I was when I when I saw to see to these people
Starting point is 00:09:31 and I was different like that this brill, or that enthusiasm that had with me
Starting point is 00:09:38 to share, I mean, he was, he would be a callied, a little retraided, and when
Starting point is 00:09:47 we'd together we had a moment in the that I saw, and he had I,
Starting point is 00:09:54 what you said, and, I said, what you know, that's if had a
Starting point is 00:10:00 mentality a major machista. I mean, not me I would like that's cause.
Starting point is 00:10:06 But how were the marcas? In where they were? Arunions. First arunions, moretones, in what
Starting point is 00:10:13 are so the arms, spalda, pecho. Even I got to think that I was
Starting point is 00:10:19 I'd with someone more, because some more muretes were like chuppetones and I
Starting point is 00:10:25 thought I had I had someone more. Really all I had to be to do
Starting point is 00:10:30 what I wanted. I luxus. I bought my carmionette, this a rope,
Starting point is 00:10:37 my family yeah no he had to have nothing because I could help.
Starting point is 00:10:42 In another occasion I said, no, accompany me to the side.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I saw that other people had that they were like the same amuletos
Starting point is 00:10:54 than he. Amuletos to be talking of a repent I had
Starting point is 00:10:57 some some different and and I And so, you know, no, not you know, not you fix on that,
Starting point is 00:11:06 it's always like me evade the responses, no me, I didn't say, no me, I'm, not, I didn't, I'm, d' responses clear. Uh-huh. Passed the time and, and we're going to, and every that was per die more.
Starting point is 00:11:20 When you just, when the, the campaign fort and we were going to start, the person, so contraicante, was a little more, After, I'm...
Starting point is 00:11:32 You know, is that are, you know, and they're, like, to start, like,
Starting point is 00:11:40 to start things, and so, and they're things real? Some, yeah. Or, not a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:48 You know, you know, you know, you know, that's the policy, I'm in that occasion,
Starting point is 00:11:56 there was a contraincant of him he said some things that I'm going to mention
Starting point is 00:12:04 but that is he pegged about on their family so I was very
Starting point is 00:12:11 very very enojated he got he was two
Starting point is 00:12:17 days and when he he I asked where you
Starting point is 00:12:24 all all we all we just only he
Starting point is 00:12:27 was to to give a money to a certain person, me he said
Starting point is 00:12:32 a kind of money of his car and he said he he was
Starting point is 00:12:37 to get to get to a rancho near where we
Starting point is 00:12:42 were we about about about three hours because
Starting point is 00:12:46 always we moved a distance very long so
Starting point is 00:12:49 so when I did I so when I was
Starting point is 00:12:55 super super super met between serros. In really, this, me gave his warura
Starting point is 00:13:03 to endregal because he only had the confidence with me to manage the money. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:08 For that's that they started to call the contador of him because I was the
Starting point is 00:13:13 was the payos and all. In that occasion, I, there was a,
Starting point is 00:13:18 a senior with a little, and I said, no, is that this man this
Starting point is 00:13:23 fullano of tal. Oh, okay. I mean, no, no, me
Starting point is 00:13:28 reason. So, nothing, so, like, all that was very meticulous,
Starting point is 00:13:33 all very secret. Uh-huh. So, it was very poor information that was
Starting point is 00:13:37 I was I was a pachos. At the principle, well, I don't me sent me
Starting point is 00:13:43 to get a so, like, always I'm in that I'm you know, you're,
Starting point is 00:13:48 you start, you know, what I'm doing, if I'm doing something something something
Starting point is 00:13:54 something something, but when I I was what I did
Starting point is 00:13:58 and I would I'm always I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:14:00 think I'm I'm not not to be to be to
Starting point is 00:14:05 me, I'm I'm to get to and I do you all the
Starting point is 00:14:11 need to pass the time I'm talking about two
Starting point is 00:14:16 three days more to the pre-candid contrary also
Starting point is 00:14:20 also also the disappeared So, wow. And then there was where I started to, I started to give me, he started. No
Starting point is 00:14:36 only for, that he had disappeared, or so, with the person that I was, I know, I know. I was he, and I was he asked, and I said that if he had been to him, or with the disappearance, if he had
Starting point is 00:14:52 done something, and me said that were things of them, that I don't have to matter. So, that not he, not he accepted? Ah, well, so, like, to, you know you metas?
Starting point is 00:15:02 A-you- that's some things my, and you, no. So, really, like,
Starting point is 00:15:06 I, I, like, I was, I was, I was the suspicion of that he had
Starting point is 00:15:13 been, but no, he had been, he, but, we didn't, not me didn't, no,
Starting point is 00:15:18 no, I said, so, the time, the person this, appeared Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:15:29 So, they're many people to see those people, they were a tides
Starting point is 00:15:35 that I had a certain in the sense of that's close to my family, but
Starting point is 00:15:41 no, but I really, with all the things that I had, I did my
Starting point is 00:15:47 family. I was I used them economically, but practically not those be you.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Okay. For meod to that they pass to something or that
Starting point is 00:15:55 they were doing. For this day, he commented to my mom and in a call
Starting point is 00:16:03 that he said, me said that this man had appeared, but that he was all call
Starting point is 00:16:09 that, but that had much fear. The other pre-candidate. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:16:14 like they had been amazated, they disappeared but for
Starting point is 00:16:17 to do you do it. I really, well, I felt well. But,
Starting point is 00:16:24 well, but, well, as all the thing, that was, I was kind of, I said, I said,
Starting point is 00:16:30 well, maybe was a sust, or nothing more for that's to calm, and so. But yeah when they were
Starting point is 00:16:37 those of the elections, there was where it was the, well, I was the most feo that I
Starting point is 00:16:43 did all this. Can you see at this point, what partio political is? No. No, I
Starting point is 00:16:50 can't talk about that. Okay. I prefer to maintain it so because in really, although it's a time, I don't think
Starting point is 00:16:58 I'm afraid of what me could happen. Because there were many things. He started to to help me, to try me
Starting point is 00:17:07 to me mal. He said I that he was I, and regressa but regressa very
Starting point is 00:17:12 different. Incluso there were moments in which he had been with me and
Starting point is 00:17:18 had the grits that had pesadillas and he asked I, but what you say you're, what you're you, sorens?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Quintam. He always was very erratic in information with me. Like, no more
Starting point is 00:17:32 moments, but the bad ones never me wanted to me was I mean, I know, I had a
Starting point is 00:17:38 certain things, but never me said nothing. He had a type of the herio of persecution,
Starting point is 00:17:47 desperado pesidels? always I used and the and the pedigias in really
Starting point is 00:17:55 I've done because I've seen feo or things like but you you can espantar
Starting point is 00:18:00 and start but he he was so I started like they were to they were
Starting point is 00:18:05 and orcating and I was and I'm and even he's just shuding to be a lot
Starting point is 00:18:13 I was a lot that I'm that was the same that his and I made
Starting point is 00:18:21 fear to ask because every I said the first I said
Starting point is 00:18:25 no or no me gave the information but then I started
Starting point is 00:18:30 when I asked when I you don't you make and I started you know you
Starting point is 00:18:36 you know you know you don't you know you don't you only you only
Starting point is 00:18:39 you just you're just you I'm I said I
Starting point is 00:18:44 said I when when and this I sentia in the fund that no
Starting point is 00:18:53 I would have done because there are many things that the people
Starting point is 00:18:58 said that they were in it I was I was sure that I would even
Starting point is 00:19:04 in a time I thought in alharm of him because I thought
Starting point is 00:19:11 that I had promised that independently of what I had
Starting point is 00:19:15 I was I didn't I didn't I But he always me
Starting point is 00:19:19 that that's that's that's that was a fact that he was
Starting point is 00:19:24 that he would be that I would be that that would that would have
Starting point is 00:19:31 confidence in him I'm I'm I'm to see that I did
Starting point is 00:19:37 that I'm in the sense that first I said I of the amuletos
Starting point is 00:19:44 that I'm and various people coiards yeah I I started to investigate or
Starting point is 00:19:49 to, like, to buskare his explication. And those things were of the people of the bruchos. I mean,
Starting point is 00:19:59 I don't know if they were protection, first I thought so, or that it was because they were
Starting point is 00:20:05 in a secta or something more more strong. When I, I, I started to question to
Starting point is 00:20:13 that if there had, of those amuletos and that because yeah no they were
Starting point is 00:20:19 not to do they're in or to be in all the time all the time I'm I'm saying first that
Starting point is 00:20:26 first were in protection then I went to really I'm really I'm really I'm
Starting point is 00:20:33 I'm I'm okay I think that the protection was for that in Veracruz
Starting point is 00:20:38 so it's much of that's there's so so so I thought that
Starting point is 00:20:43 it was a protection for that not they if they were any a type of
Starting point is 00:20:47 a bit of he or or something but in very in a occasion
Starting point is 00:20:53 he's he's he he's I want to look to observe
Starting point is 00:20:59 more to be what what was what was he was he
Starting point is 00:21:04 he was he no no no me quit and and
Starting point is 00:21:08 really I did I did I didn't that
Starting point is 00:21:13 did it did you not me gritted because, but no, no, no, in that moment no, no, no, in that moment, no me gulpeo, but so, I'd be able to talk to, that no me acercara, that, that, I mean, that, I was,
Starting point is 00:21:26 that I could I talk. Okay. Levered a point in which I think in what was in what I was made, to him. Okay. Temia for his life? Yes, not, not only in the spiritual and that, but that they got them, but started to get
Starting point is 00:21:44 people very strange, both for money, as a sometimes to get them. In
Starting point is 00:21:50 the way, camionettes polarized, grandes. So, I started to think,
Starting point is 00:21:56 to think that they had metido with people that not because the campaign you know,
Starting point is 00:22:03 you know, that every they're more money, you know, you're to be
Starting point is 00:22:06 metient with, well, a day that I, When I kept in the officeina, Arregland some papers,
Starting point is 00:22:16 I heard how I went talking with this person that always he always he had
Starting point is 00:22:25 to do something but that no brucho he had to be to do. And that
Starting point is 00:22:34 they were to get the way to gain but that that
Starting point is 00:22:40 that all the I need a sacrifice and then he because he had mentioned because
Starting point is 00:22:49 nobody wanted and I really don't I don't I don't
Starting point is 00:22:57 where they got those people that they're to do that
Starting point is 00:23:01 came a day in the we were in the night checking some
Starting point is 00:23:07 documents and and so. And he's he's acercoe to confess me. And really me kept as like, well, we're
Starting point is 00:23:20 going to, with the campaign, well, all we're trying, but me said that that's not sufficient. But in that occasion, in really, I was
Starting point is 00:23:33 like, asustado. I was a sustado, but in a way that in really I don't tell I can't describe it
Starting point is 00:23:42 because it was, I'm afraid but I'm to do. So, that's not important and I have to
Starting point is 00:23:52 do it. And was where he confessed that he had to a ritual to
Starting point is 00:23:57 to get a to win the elections that he confiated much in the person
Starting point is 00:24:05 that I always I'd always go to say his number but with someone
Starting point is 00:24:10 more. I said that were other people that he had to do a
Starting point is 00:24:15 ritual and where me he said he you to
Starting point is 00:24:18 you to this ranch where I had to
Starting point is 00:24:23 I had to then when me he about
Starting point is 00:24:27 and that I really I am a bit
Starting point is 00:24:30 a bit so but but, but, since embargo
Starting point is 00:24:35 me said, that, that, the, the, was I, and that
Starting point is 00:24:40 I had accompanied. For this, those we were to go to that ritual, we were,
Starting point is 00:24:48 well, I was, I was the person, the man with the person with always
Starting point is 00:24:54 and I, and a company to me, that was the, I think, I'm,
Starting point is 00:25:00 I think also, I'm so amante. Simply that she and I not, no, no, those mention about any one at other. Okay. But she also, uh, sometimes, uh, he could have to work with him, you know, when I
Starting point is 00:25:11 had to go to my family, or something. That was that. That was very little, but I knew that between them, there was. Everything was all right. I thought that I was in a ritual like those who'd be in the movies, and something. Or a
Starting point is 00:25:25 a limpia? Exactly. Something like, that's only for the good Sures and so but what was my
Starting point is 00:25:34 surprise when he was when he was a year of a real
Starting point is 00:25:41 I've never had had had had had with his
Starting point is 00:25:46 kids to his wife she had seen on two
Starting point is 00:25:51 times for questions of that sometimes I had to
Starting point is 00:25:53 do but to his never was I never
Starting point is 00:25:59 So, in that occasion Hego with his and he said that I made to he made
Starting point is 00:26:06 a cargo of the that I would I trotubier in really, in really
Starting point is 00:26:13 very, very, very extra for me to say, if we going to do a
Starting point is 00:26:18 ritual, because I'd to come to come us the child. And
Starting point is 00:26:22 less that, I never never, never he was I was when I
Starting point is 00:26:27 was I was I When we did we go to the camionetta, we went to this rancho where you mentioned. It's that in really, it's very very, what I'm going to say.
Starting point is 00:26:46 There was a circle of vellas negras and was the person that he always, was another broo. another gruco or a person disfraised, a vestida, different.
Starting point is 00:27:06 They started to... ...a... ...a... ...a me did much me... ...uncuh never had ...that had seen
Starting point is 00:27:17 ...that I'm really ...emper... ...emper... ...embe... ...embe... ...and... is a strong
Starting point is 00:27:30 frieo in the same the same I think the scenes of the movies
Starting point is 00:27:37 are the one of the scene I mean me me did much fear
Starting point is 00:27:41 I gave you and I and I was and I was I was
Starting point is 00:27:48 very very dooros when I feel that me I
Starting point is 00:27:50 know I was I was I no I
Starting point is 00:27:58 I didn't know how to move in those things. And I knew that if I was not only he was going to happen something, but I heard the gritts of the the little they were
Starting point is 00:28:12 to where was to that was a circle. Only when one of those people took a and desvibed the
Starting point is 00:28:29 little. In that moment when his blood began to get, I saw
Starting point is 00:28:37 a sombra enormous with some eyes like the fire that they were
Starting point is 00:28:44 to him was the scene the scene more I've seen I'm to look at
Starting point is 00:28:54 the eyes and I to go to the soil. Me gave much my impotency of not have been able to do anything. I was very co-barde to not
Starting point is 00:29:07 to help him. They started to talk other words. The candidate was there, but not he was he. But, to someone
Starting point is 00:29:25 more in his body because not he his voice changed
Starting point is 00:29:28 he, it was in really it was an an an
Starting point is 00:29:33 an super pesable I felt me the respiration
Starting point is 00:29:38 not not could not my my company was
Starting point is 00:29:42 dismay of to see what was what was what
Starting point is 00:29:49 was what had to to go to pass. And I got one of his security to take a my company that was
Starting point is 00:30:01 dismayed and to me us said that what we had seen not had passed never and that we were going to talk. Passed
Starting point is 00:30:14 the days. I was I was I was in my house and I don't
Starting point is 00:30:23 want to get to get I'm much a lot and he said
Starting point is 00:30:29 him he said he said he had to go to the camp
Starting point is 00:30:33 and that and that me would be that the
Starting point is 00:30:41 life and that we had to continue because the
Starting point is 00:30:45 sacrifice of his child had to do the
Starting point is 00:30:47 past the days and the with him and with me was very different. I was just, I was with fear. Because I felt that not he.
Starting point is 00:31:01 In the moment of the ritual, I said that I was because it was another voice, it was another person. I don't know if I had with the idea, but in the days the next I, I, I, I, no, I,
Starting point is 00:31:15 I, no, I, what I did in that moment, what I was, I did what was able to do with his own
Starting point is 00:31:23 his own his own I had much fear much much me
Starting point is 00:31:29 so much me passed the days we we're we're
Starting point is 00:31:38 we're we're we're we're we're we to cost
Starting point is 00:31:45 Really, I really I felt a porchery of person, because I was complice and part of that a psalte of it, a peter. No, I could, I, I, and, but I, and,
Starting point is 00:32:07 not only temed for me, but for my family, too, and you can see as see it's like I'm the poor person of the world
Starting point is 00:32:17 and I'm that many years I've lived with seeing it so. But it's a process
Starting point is 00:32:24 that I'm going to therapy to be to over this. For that in my
Starting point is 00:32:33 Corre I insisted I I had I had I to tell
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Starting point is 00:33:37 I don't have words for that. I think that no, there's history and no... no, no, there's relato
Starting point is 00:33:51 that... that'scrib the cruelty that really that really is in the humanity. You could have to have
Starting point is 00:34:03 been person. I've understood that I'm the child of him.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I don't see really had to be your blood. But having the
Starting point is 00:34:23 money that I could get to any other person, a other
Starting point is 00:34:28 enemy or a sometimes you put to think to someone that he had
Starting point is 00:34:33 made a might be maybe it would like as a juste of
Starting point is 00:34:38 countas but his he was he had no I'm the
Starting point is 00:34:43 cause of nothing that all that's a because
Starting point is 00:34:48 he passed the time and and a group
Starting point is 00:34:55 armed he he he he got he he
Starting point is 00:34:59 got he he was so so they It's like I could
Starting point is 00:35:06 I can't I don't see I think of the people that were to get them to get a group
Starting point is 00:35:14 with delinquents I think they were they're because his body his body
Starting point is 00:35:21 appeared in parts there he was disappeared and they were and they were
Starting point is 00:35:31 we went we're trying in pedas what that's that after that
Starting point is 00:35:37 he's he's he's he's he and the month he
Starting point is 00:35:41 was he was disappeared three four days and
Starting point is 00:35:46 we were they were they're leaving his parts
Starting point is 00:35:50 but those parts had they're they they're symbols
Starting point is 00:35:56 not only only of torture but but things
Starting point is 00:36:02 that we have seen in that ritual that that it's
Starting point is 00:36:08 that but no no no pardon I always
Starting point is 00:36:15 I've said that with the of the thing I
Starting point is 00:36:19 don't not I don't I don't but that
Starting point is 00:36:25 that's maldito pagou and the form in how mentions that it
Starting point is 00:36:29 was it. Pagot in the poor form. No, they're
Starting point is 00:36:32 not they're to do you did do you do and he here is
Starting point is 00:36:39 the karma one more being present in every
Starting point is 00:36:43 moment I don't see in really was the group
Starting point is 00:36:46 delictive with the I had or was something
Starting point is 00:36:50 more than what I saw that that form in that
Starting point is 00:36:58 appeared I believe that the the human more
Starting point is 00:37:03 could be the person even of what he did with
Starting point is 00:37:08 the the child I think was a more
Starting point is 00:37:16 what what happened with her family, her what
Starting point is 00:37:20 was what he said the he said the little always
Starting point is 00:37:25 he had orchestrated okay that was what he said to his family
Starting point is 00:37:30 and we we know to us we're not you're you're trying a process legal
Starting point is 00:37:38 actually? Yeah there was an investigation in the that I I paid for having
Starting point is 00:37:47 me called but even but still still is something that's
Starting point is 00:37:55 something that I cargo with that because in me always
Starting point is 00:37:59 is there I've done you have done you're you have been
Starting point is 00:38:05 you have been you have been so that no
Starting point is 00:38:12 I don't I don't I don't after the
Starting point is 00:38:19 process of this person to how time the investigation
Starting point is 00:38:23 and for who did the investigation for how they they found
Starting point is 00:38:29 everyone they all they've been to the other candidate to have sequestered
Starting point is 00:38:38 that they had sequestered first all the cause to him one because
Starting point is 00:38:44 he he was he he was he accused to have sequestered the
Starting point is 00:38:49 and have disappeared okay and and then for having
Starting point is 00:38:56 desvived to the candidate. You in some you know you did you
Starting point is 00:39:04 what you did? I after that they went I went I
Starting point is 00:39:11 I escaped I I had I much fear not only
Starting point is 00:39:16 only of what me could pass physically of what they
Starting point is 00:39:21 could do to the the carcels, but of something more. I, in
Starting point is 00:39:29 really, what I did that night, until the day of the day of
Starting point is 00:39:32 I can forget. And not only only the situation of the little
Starting point is 00:39:39 what happened with him, but what I saw that this.
Starting point is 00:39:48 This person, for what I had many, what what
Starting point is 00:39:53 happens in many states and municipalities make pacts with certain groups,
Starting point is 00:40:00 they're they're they're in the power or they attack the group
Starting point is 00:40:06 contrary or they they don't co-operate and not they're and the same
Starting point is 00:40:11 group with the same the same the form that they were what they
Starting point is 00:40:18 was what I was what I he was what I can't to say the
Starting point is 00:40:23 maldito that was like it's like that to be
Starting point is 00:40:29 to do so a man to is a maldito and he
Starting point is 00:40:35 paid every money and he was to go
Starting point is 00:40:38 and he was to repeat every moment before before
Starting point is 00:40:41 his death he no I know I really
Starting point is 00:40:50 what more is saying, I don't know, it's something that I'm I can't imagine, and to hear you, it really, much. Much.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I know that all what I did not took well, and as I said, I, I've been a process of sanation.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Because for more that I'm asked that could have avoided, I could have done something.
Starting point is 00:41:21 For most that I don't let's know he's I don't I'm going to you know I'm in so you so I'm
Starting point is 00:41:29 I'm I'm some of some of some things that that me did for
Starting point is 00:41:36 to get me to want to get me to come and you're trying you did you
Starting point is 00:41:41 did once when when I when I started to see to
Starting point is 00:41:47 how they were how they were The first time that I decided to I was when when he got the group armado.
Starting point is 00:41:58 There was where I did count that that not going to be well, the things not going to be and the second was when I said that
Starting point is 00:42:11 that his that was that was not that person to the that no, I'm
Starting point is 00:42:21 for the he was I was very very and admired. You
Starting point is 00:42:27 admirables? Yes. Before to give me really the person that was
Starting point is 00:42:33 the first that was the first that was the person competitive animated and
Starting point is 00:42:40 and her ambition because I was I identified much with him
Starting point is 00:42:48 but for more ambition that I have, I never would be able to do something like he did. That's hard. After all, I think
Starting point is 00:43:03 for what you, is that the people know the person but the description that you did of that is a party is a party
Starting point is 00:43:11 that I think that nobody voted for them and that they've been in the power. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:43:21 After after what you passed and you've seen not been not been to have
Starting point is 00:43:28 some people have gotten to him that you knew that you knew that you went to the
Starting point is 00:43:34 city I'm years that I've no has no I've no
Starting point is 00:43:42 I'm I'm for fear. I mean, I gave to my mom
Starting point is 00:43:50 and my brothers. You did other life? You
Starting point is 00:43:58 have a a or only you have been
Starting point is 00:44:01 to have been I try to to to
Starting point is 00:44:06 I to I and I changed much I've
Starting point is 00:44:15 I've tried to re-a-sere my in other but believe that the that'somber of what I
Starting point is 00:44:22 did, of what I did it, it's been that to a certain point you you know,
Starting point is 00:44:30 really and I did I, I was 18 years, to the 18 years that
Starting point is 00:44:34 you're a person is an adult but you don't have anything of the
Starting point is 00:44:41 And you're studying? You finished your studies? No. In when you were with him, paused. I'm dedicated to and after
Starting point is 00:44:51 what he and then I went. Mentioned to something that he left thinking too.
Starting point is 00:45:02 He he he did be he. I sound much to a thing of a
Starting point is 00:45:07 thing of possession. You you'd like he yeah was under the influx of some
Starting point is 00:45:13 a entity demon? I think that he he was he was he
Starting point is 00:45:21 was everything what I really I don't know much knowledge
Starting point is 00:45:27 about those things but but after that ritual
Starting point is 00:45:33 his his mirada not was the most he he
Starting point is 00:45:38 he became the little that we were because it was so my
Starting point is 00:45:47 terror that I didn't me want to but the last
Starting point is 00:45:51 we was another person different yeah your ambition
Starting point is 00:46:01 or your and the joy that I had been to
Starting point is 00:46:04 every job that he was a same. It's
Starting point is 00:46:08 a person friar. Your wife has entered what
Starting point is 00:46:12 what happened with his his for the investigations I
Starting point is 00:46:17 think so. Yes. This information saw at the light
Starting point is 00:46:21 in a moment? No. No. For the world in the
Starting point is 00:46:27 world in that the people that had known only
Starting point is 00:46:33 the most has got his husband really no
Starting point is 00:46:38 see what version he had had investigations I don't see
Starting point is 00:46:48 the she was she really not never never never
Starting point is 00:46:53 I never never because I know she was that I was
Starting point is 00:47:00 she was she was she husband had amateurs? For the attitude
Starting point is 00:47:08 that she I think she. I know her his wife.
Starting point is 00:47:15 The little I did him and with me he
Starting point is 00:47:20 kept a little time I think she he took
Starting point is 00:47:23 more more more things really really I don't
Starting point is 00:47:28 see how he was she because never we
Starting point is 00:47:31 never about she she past with you in moments short but the
Starting point is 00:47:39 of the little of the investigation that was with after with the
Starting point is 00:47:46 confession that I did and my company also because she
Starting point is 00:47:50 also she also talked that the sir I think that you matter
Starting point is 00:47:56 that's delicate is the first that I'm my very
Starting point is 00:48:03 very very no I don't see very extrano after of a
Starting point is 00:48:09 gravation it's a time that I have mentioned and I know I have
Starting point is 00:48:12 told in histories but to hear from from the eyes of someone
Starting point is 00:48:17 that live that that he's that he's that
Starting point is 00:48:22 those yantos no just just just just just
Starting point is 00:48:27 just I me me romp my my man,
Starting point is 00:48:31 I rompio because with that no we need to get nobody
Starting point is 00:48:36 never. And if it do they get to the consequences because there's
Starting point is 00:48:42 there a there a being a person and I
Starting point is 00:48:48 think we we we we we that the
Starting point is 00:48:52 justice came really very but for my person
Starting point is 00:48:56 that person no I didn't die so easy. No, I don't
Starting point is 00:49:01 I mean I had to live more time. Much more time. The death is
Starting point is 00:49:08 the one that's that type of people. You have
Starting point is 00:49:15 been persegated in some you've been or or something? Until
Starting point is 00:49:21 about three years, I'm I've lived with much fear. How you
Starting point is 00:49:30 you're really never I never never I but when your conscience no is
Starting point is 00:49:36 a tranquil no you don't he's to get to I'm I've
Starting point is 00:49:41 been in these years moving of a two three occasions
Starting point is 00:49:46 for my mom that is the that is that your city
Starting point is 00:49:53 of origin I have I have regressado that
Starting point is 00:49:59 or two times in these a little more of 10 years
Starting point is 00:50:03 but like moving in a profile back and trying of two
Starting point is 00:50:12 days maximum and I'm no I can get that city
Starting point is 00:50:15 without what I didn't remember what I see and
Starting point is 00:50:21 for me is very difficult even your city is
Starting point is 00:50:25 And I'm here because in really I need to I'm going to I know I'm going to judge
Starting point is 00:50:36 but to be in it's not easy. So, so you have gone to that
Starting point is 00:50:44 city? How's times? Because you've said, because I've said that's
Starting point is 00:50:49 two times. But I don't know for a Yeah, I don't me Ked.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I'm much fear. No, only I said I, there's
Starting point is 00:51:00 I'm, there's physically that we go and they're to live, we're
Starting point is 00:51:07 going to go to or something but my fear is other thing.
Starting point is 00:51:13 A what is? That that a sombra that I see. It's
Starting point is 00:51:19 that was horrible. Really It's... It's something that for years no, me has left to dream. And the being in this,
Starting point is 00:51:33 well, in that city, would, to go, to go, to look, to live a piece, is revivir all the that night. And I prefer not to do, in reality. The two occasions
Starting point is 00:51:47 that, that, I'm, that, in In fact, for me, not some visits because they're of entry for out and
Starting point is 00:51:54 that's for my mom, that's great. It's been very difficult for me.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I remember when I did your courre a few months, I mean because
Starting point is 00:52:08 I was a time and normally the people write stories for that you redactes
Starting point is 00:52:17 but when you said that you wanted that you for to see it as a
Starting point is 00:52:23 therapy for to let us is something impressive and it's not apt and I
Starting point is 00:52:28 said in a first of this episode for that the people it is
Starting point is 00:52:33 a time that we have heard in stories but see the
Starting point is 00:52:39 cruelty and the crudeness that the man many is
Starting point is 00:52:43 able is capable to do for power and I
Starting point is 00:52:48 know I I'm a partidist No, I don't have a inclination political, no me interest the because I always
Starting point is 00:52:57 I've said, for me, it's a place askeros, better than the same where we're where we find
Starting point is 00:53:03 a person that we're a car and really their intentions are other and not I want to
Starting point is 00:53:10 talk exactly of a party or a person or a person or but I let's say something,
Starting point is 00:53:17 I'll say The people The people So, the people sell your image Vend what he wants
Starting point is 00:53:24 and I think the most times are when when they go to do so when there
Starting point is 00:53:31 campaigns when they are to help and they're and they're and they're when
Starting point is 00:53:36 they're in the chark of water and under the water and I think that
Starting point is 00:53:41 it's not so it's not so and really many YouTubers
Starting point is 00:53:46 creators of content have about of this of how inunds the streets with
Starting point is 00:53:50 and more basura of images of campaign and this and the other. Of the real, family, I think that we have to levanted the voice for, for generate
Starting point is 00:54:02 conscience of what we do what we're doing. Yeah, it was sufficient to have this type of people in this type of cargos where are able to do the things
Starting point is 00:54:15 more cruel and more miles. The contador, I thank you I thank you. I guess been to come to here.
Starting point is 00:54:24 I know that it was easy. I know that's he was postponing much this
Starting point is 00:54:30 interview. Muchissimo. Muchissimo. One once we got us two we did we
Starting point is 00:54:36 did we but the third was the thing. I thank much that you
Starting point is 00:54:41 have been thank you thank for giving the confidence to us
Starting point is 00:54:45 thank for permit me to tell to it's
Starting point is 00:54:52 something that's something I need I need to I'm so
Starting point is 00:54:58 I know that you want to you're going to but believe that what I had
Starting point is 00:55:05 to pay I'm and I'm still I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:55:08 I'm I'm thank much we we're for term
Starting point is 00:55:14 to this episode Thank you.

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