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It was a fiesta where there were many persons
major than I,
until that he was acerco this man,
and me started to do the platica,
me started to talk,
he was a political.
To the precandidato,
contrary,
also,
who,
he disappeared.
A day that I
came in his office
arrangling those
papers
I heard
I'm
talking about
with this
person that
always
he had to
do something
that had to
do something
but that
had been
to look
the way
to gain
but that
that all
I needed
a sacrifice
to
hear the
the
little
the new
he was
they were
where was
to be the
circle
only when
one of those people
took a
Cuchillo
I'm a
Coochie
What
How much?
Welcome to a
podcast extra abnormal.
My name is Pac-A-Ras
and I'm very
happy to be
here with all of you
family,
I want to mention
something in this
moment.
The chapter of
today is a
that not up to
for us.
It's a chapter
of the most
the most
that
we've
brought
because
it's a
testimony
that was
someone
that was
the same
demonio
in
life.
It's
something
that I
repeat
not
for
everyone.
The
person that
we have
the
day
of
day of
a
political
Mexican
and
he
lived
things
so
so
so
cruel
and
He was a person, and is a person that has a person
that has been a process legal.
He's a, already in a process of rehabilitation.
So, I ask you a lot of respect, family,
because the person that today is with us,
we've decided to guard her identity,
a person who we're going to refer to her,
as the contadour.
How are you?
A little bit nervous for being judged,
but, well,
I've passed a process
and this
I think
san a little
my heart.
Thanks for
accept the
invitation.
I've mentioned
to all the
people who
got a
call your
your call
your post
you shared
just a
few years
when we
we were
what you
wrote you
wrote
you,
it's
something we
we don't
we don't
we can
imagine
it's
something
that,
the real
family
are
things
is that, as
I
mentioned,
there
we've mentioned,
but the
same
man is
much
times more
malignant than
any other
other
life.
You can
tell your
story?
Well,
this
starts in
the 2014.
I had
I was
about
of 18,
19 years.
You
compare to
that I
have been
of a
family
very
humble,
where
you
cacet,
always
was
present,
the
necessities,
and as
a woman
and
young,
I always
I always
wanted
to live
good.
Okay.
I saw
amistades
that
lived much
better
than I,
and in
my
heart
always
there was
so I
was I
was I
I'm
the way to
get the
money
in the
sense
to
form
those
Concegoes of
HOMES.
Okay.
For this
was very
very beautiful,
it was of
the children
that were
the attention
of a
good
person.
So,
so it
came to
me the
friend of
my coonado
and when
I'm so
beautiful
me invite
to a
fiesta
where
I would
to be
politicians and
people of
money
because I
had
commented
of
that I had.
So,
then we went to
a fiesta,
me present to a
a man,
a man,
that he had
much money.
In our
city was one
of those
that had
a major
acquisition,
cars.
I'd
be a
present and
it was a
place
where there
was a
person
mayors
than I,
and
And there was much
people
until
that's
me
so I'm
approached
this man
and
me started to
do the
platic
me
he was
to talk
he was
to be
for a
campaign
not I
don't
to mention
the post
or not
to not
do that
not
very
very
very
certain
to
him
I'm
he
invited
first
to
look
to
me
about of all the ambitions that he had
that he was
better. Practically, I
went to the idea of
to work with the
first and
to know. The
truth, I
got a much
the interest.
I saw the
opportunity to
grow what I
was going.
Passed the
time and
me still
inviting to
other
places.
To not
start the
quote very
long,
at the
less of the
month, I
was just
I was
in the
country.
As I was studying
Contaduria
He started to
give me the
work
that I would
give to all the
Pagos
all the
the
compas
and that was
what I
was what I
did
this
he always
was very
atent
with me
I
I had the
intention
independently
of that
it was
to work
I
knew
that in
some
something
something
something
going
to
go
Okay.
Passed the time.
We went
and we're
more
more.
The
truth
I'm going to
say,
I'm
coquetia.
I want
to form
part
not just
of his
circle,
but I
was a
opportunity
to grow
he.
He had
a family?
Yes,
he was
a casable.
Okay.
I had
three
children.
But that's
family really
no
I'm
important.
I was
what I
wanted
was the
money
was the
mentality
of a
young
that we
think
we're
so
I'm
I'm
my
love
so
I'm
so
we
start
we
start
in
what
is the
pre-camp
and
and
something
that I
was
was
he
was
he
was
a
attention
all
what
is
brusheries, esoterism,
all that
ram
oscura that
of brusheries
and that went
much to Katemak
or places
where
I knew that
there were bruchos
and bruchos
went and
those visitable
to him.
I was
to percat
of this
for the
pagos that
I did.
He
me said that
would be
that
money to
that a
place or
to get
a person
to get
a person to
I'm talking of
quantities
very
grand.
How was
the maximum
that you
did a one of
these
people?
They were
maletines.
Maletines
of the
money.
Never
you ever
really he
had
to give
to the
maletines
and he
was going to
get this person,
and he's
okay.
Really
money
cheques
and so not
always
were
quantities
in effective.
Okay.
In the
in the
intimacy
of me
a
sometimes, she kept with me.
I was really, really
there was a point in which I thought
in love me to him, because I was
all, but there were
moments or days in those
or days in those that were
very different.
Different in what manner?
When these people
came and it was
me perl'd for two, three days,
or he was, he
was, he was, he was, and
just had to do. And so,
with the other people.
but different
with an attitude
that in
really
at times
me'd
because he
he was
he was
he was at
the principle
very carinoes
and always
about the
grandesses
and had the
same
ambitions
that I
wanted
he had
him
more
and that
was
what I
was
what I
but
I was
when I
when I
saw
to see
to
these
people
and
I was
different
like
that
this brill, or that
enthusiasm that
had with me
to share,
I mean,
he was,
he would be
a callied,
a little
retraided,
and when
we'd
together we
had a moment
in the
that I
saw, and
he had
I,
what you
said,
and,
I said,
what you
know,
that's if
had a
mentality
a major
machista.
I mean,
not
me
I would like that's
cause.
But how were
the marcas?
In where
they were?
Arunions.
First arunions,
moretones,
in what
are so
the arms,
spalda,
pecho.
Even
I got to
think that
I was
I'd
with someone
more, because
some more
muretes
were like
chuppetones
and I
thought I
had I
had someone
more.
Really
all I
had to be
to do
what I
wanted.
I
luxus.
I bought my
carmionette,
this
a rope,
my family
yeah no
he had
to have
nothing
because I
could
help.
In
another
occasion
I said,
no,
accompany me
to the
side.
I saw
that other
people
had that
they were
like the
same
amuletos
than he.
Amuletos
to be
talking
of a
repent
I
had
some
some
different
and
and
I
And so, you know, no, not
you know, not you fix on that,
it's always like me evade the responses,
no me, I didn't say,
no me, I'm, not, I didn't,
I'm, d' responses clear.
Uh-huh.
Passed the time and, and
we're going to, and every
that was per die more.
When you just,
when the, the campaign
fort and we were going to
start, the person,
so contraicante,
was a little more,
After,
I'm...
You know,
is that
are,
you know,
and they're,
like,
to start,
like,
to start things,
and so,
and they're
things real?
Some,
yeah.
Or,
not a lot.
You know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
that's the
policy, I'm
in that
occasion,
there was
a contraincant
of him
he said
some
things that
I'm going to
mention
but that
is he
pegged
about
on their
family
so I
was very
very
very
enojated
he
got
he
was
two
days
and
when
he
he
I asked
where
you
all
all
we
all
we
just
only
he
was
to
to give a
money to
a certain
person,
me
he said
a
kind of
money
of his
car
and he
said he
he was
to get
to
get to
a
rancho
near
where
we
were
we
about
about
about
three
hours
because
always
we
moved
a
distance
very
long
so
so
when
I
did I
so
when
I
was
super
super super
met
between serros. In
really,
this,
me gave
his warura
to endregal
because he
only had the
confidence
with me
to manage the
money.
Okay.
For that's
that they
started to
call the
contador
of him
because I
was the
was the
payos
and all.
In that
occasion,
I,
there was
a,
a senior
with a
little,
and I said,
no,
is that
this man
this
fullano
of tal.
Oh,
okay.
I mean,
no,
no,
me
reason.
So,
nothing,
so,
like,
all that
was very
meticulous,
all very
secret.
Uh-huh.
So,
it was
very poor
information
that was
I was
I was
a pachos.
At the
principle,
well,
I don't
me sent me
to get a
so,
like,
always
I'm in
that I'm
you know,
you're,
you start,
you know,
what I'm
doing,
if I'm
doing something
something
something
something
something,
but
when I
I was
what
I
did
and I
would
I'm
always
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
think
I'm
I'm
not
not
to be
to be
to
me,
I'm
I'm
to get
to
and I
do you
all the
need to
pass
the
time
I'm
talking
about
two
three
days
more
to
the
pre-candid
contrary
also
also
also
the
disappeared
So, wow.
And then there was where I
started to, I started
to give me, he started. No
only for, that he had
disappeared, or so, with
the person that I was,
I know, I know.
I was he, and I was
he asked, and I said that
if he had been to him, or
with the disappearance, if he had
done something, and me said that were
things of them, that I don't have to
matter. So, that not
he, not
he accepted? Ah, well,
so, like,
to, you know
you metas?
A-you-
that's
some things
my, and you,
no.
So,
really,
like,
I,
I, like,
I was,
I was,
I was the
suspicion
of that
he had
been, but
no,
he had been,
he, but,
we didn't,
not me
didn't,
no,
no,
I said,
so,
the time,
the person
this,
appeared
Uh-huh.
So,
they're
many
people to
see those
people,
they were
a tides
that I
had a
certain in the
sense of
that's
close to my
family,
but
no,
but I
really,
with all
the things
that I
had, I
did my
family.
I was
I used
them economically,
but
practically
not those
be you.
Okay.
For
meod
to
that they
pass to
something
or that
they were
doing.
For this
day,
he commented to
my
mom and in a
call
that he said,
me
said that this
man had
appeared,
but that
he was
all call
that,
but that
had
much
fear.
The other
pre-candidate.
Yeah,
like
they had
been
amazated,
they
disappeared
but
for
to do you
do it.
I
really,
well,
I
felt
well. But,
well, but,
well, as
all the
thing,
that was,
I was kind of,
I said,
I said,
well, maybe
was a sust, or
nothing more
for that's
to calm,
and so.
But yeah
when they were
those of
the elections,
there was
where it was
the, well,
I was the
most feo
that I
did all this.
Can you
see at this
point,
what partio
political is?
No.
No, I
can't
talk about
that.
Okay.
I prefer to maintain it so because in
really, although
it's a time,
I don't think
I'm afraid of what
me could happen.
Because there
were many
things.
He started to
to help me,
to try me
to me
mal.
He said I
that he
was I,
and regressa
but
regressa very
different.
Incluso
there were
moments in
which he
had been
with me
and
had the
grits
that had
pesadillas and he
asked I, but what you
say you're, what you're
you,
sorens?
Quintam.
He always
was very
erratic in
information
with me.
Like,
no more
moments, but
the bad ones
never me
wanted to
me was
I mean, I
know, I
had a
certain
things, but
never
me said nothing.
He had
a type of
the herio
of persecution,
desperado
pesidels?
always
I used
and the
and the
pedigias
in really
I've done
because I've
seen
feo or
things like
but you
you can
espantar
and start
but he
he was
so I
started
like they
were to
they were
and orcating
and I was
and I'm
and even
he's just
shuding
to be
a lot
I was
a lot
that
I'm
that was
the same
that his
and I made
fear
to
ask
because
every
I said
the first
I said
no
or no
me
gave the
information
but
then I
started
when I
asked when I
you don't
you make
and I
started
you know
you
you know
you know
you don't
you know
you
don't
you only
you only
you
just
you're
just
you
I'm
I
said I
said I
when
when
and this
I sentia
in the
fund that
no
I would
have done
because
there are
many
things
that the
people
said
that they were
in it
I was
I was sure
that I
would
even
in a
time
I thought
in
alharm
of him
because
I thought
that
I had
promised
that
independently
of what
I
had
I was
I
didn't
I
didn't
I
But he always
me
that
that's
that's
that's
that
was a
fact that
he was
that he
would be
that I
would be
that
that would
that
would have
confidence
in him
I'm
I'm
I'm
to see
that I
did
that I'm
in the
sense
that first
I said
I
of the
amuletos
that
I'm
and various
people
coiards
yeah
I
I started to investigate or
to, like, to
buskare
his explication.
And those
things were
of the people
of the bruchos.
I mean,
I don't know
if they were
protection,
first I thought
so,
or that
it was because
they were
in a secta
or something
more
more strong.
When I,
I, I
started to
question to
that if there
had,
of those
amuletos
and that because
yeah
no
they were
not to
do they're in
or to be in
all the time
all the time
I'm
I'm saying
first that
first
were in
protection
then I
went to
really I'm
really I'm
really I'm
I'm
I'm okay
I think
that the
protection
was for
that in
Veracruz
so
it's
much of
that's
there's
so so
so I
thought that
it was a
protection
for
that
not they
if they were any
a type
of
a bit of
he
or
or something
but in
very
in a
occasion
he's
he's
he
he's
I want
to
look
to observe
more
to be
what
what
was
what was
he was
he
he was
he
no
no no
me
quit
and
and
really
I
did
I
did
I
didn't
that
did it
did you
not
me
gritted because, but no, no, no, in that moment
no, no, no, in that moment, no me gulpeo, but
so, I'd be able to talk to, that no
me acercara, that, that, I mean, that, I was,
that I could I talk. Okay.
Levered a point in which I think in what
was in what I was made, to him. Okay.
Temia for his life?
Yes, not, not only
in the spiritual and that, but
that they got them, but
started to get
people very
strange,
both for
money,
as a
sometimes to
get them.
In
the way,
camionettes
polarized,
grandes.
So,
I started
to
think,
to think
that they had
metido
with people
that not
because the
campaign
you know,
you know,
that every
they're
more
money,
you know,
you're
to be
metient
with,
well,
a day
that I,
When I kept in the officeina,
Arregland
some papers,
I heard
how
I went
talking with
this person
that always
he always
he had
to do
something
but that
no brucho
he had
to be
to do.
And that
they were
to
get the
way to
gain
but
that
that
that all the
I need
a sacrifice
and then
he
because he
had mentioned
because
nobody
wanted
and I
really
don't
I don't
I
don't
where
they got
those
people
that
they're
to do
that
came
a day
in the
we were
in the
night
checking
some
documents
and
and so. And he's
he's acercoe to confess
me. And
really
me kept as
like, well, we're
going to, with the
campaign, well, all
we're trying, but
me said that that's not
sufficient.
But in that
occasion, in
really, I was
like, asustado.
I was
a sustado, but
in a way that
in really
I don't tell
I can't
describe it
because it was,
I'm afraid
but
I'm to do.
So,
that's not
important and
I have to
do it.
And was
where he
confessed
that he
had to
a ritual
to
to get a
to win
the elections
that he
confiated
much
in the
person
that I always
I'd
always go
to say
his
number
but
with someone
more.
I said
that were
other
people
that he
had to
do a
ritual
and
where
me
he said
he
you
to
you
to
this
ranch
where
I
had
to
I
had
to
then
when
me
he
about
and
that
I
really
I
am
a
bit
a
bit
so
but
but,
but,
since
embargo
me
said,
that,
that,
the,
the,
was I,
and that
I had
accompanied.
For this,
those
we were to
go to
that ritual,
we were,
well,
I was,
I was the
person,
the man
with the
person with
always
and I,
and a
company
to me,
that was
the,
I think,
I'm,
I think
also,
I'm
so amante. Simply that she and I
not, no, no, those mention about any one at
other. Okay. But she
also, uh, sometimes, uh, he
could have to work with him, you know, when I
had to go to my family, or something. That was
that. That was very
little, but I knew that
between them, there was. Everything
was all right. I thought
that I was in a ritual
like those who'd be in the
movies, and something. Or a
a limpia? Exactly.
Something like, that's only for the
good
Sures
and so
but
what was
my
surprise
when
he was
when he
was a
year of
a
real
I've
never
had
had
had
had
had
with his
kids
to
his
wife
she
had
seen
on two
times
for questions
of
that
sometimes
I
had
to
do
but
to
his
never
was
I
never
So, in that
occasion
Hego
with his
and he
said that I
made to
he made
a cargo
of the
that I
would
I trotubier
in
really,
in really
very,
very,
very extra for
me to
say,
if we
going to
do a
ritual,
because
I'd
to come
to come
us the
child.
And
less
that,
I never
never,
never
he was
I was
when I
was
I was
I
When we did we go to the camionetta,
we went to this rancho where you mentioned.
It's that in really,
it's very very,
what I'm going to say.
There was a circle of vellas negras
and was the person that he
always,
was another broo.
another gruco or a
person disfraised,
a vestida,
different.
They started
to...
...a...
...a...
...a me did much
me...
...uncuh never had
...that had seen
...that
I'm really
...emper...
...emper...
...embe...
...embe...
...and...
is a strong
frieo
in the
same
the same
I think
the scenes
of the
movies
are the
one of the
scene
I mean
me
me did
much
fear
I
gave you
and I
and I
was
and I
was
I was
very
very
dooros
when I
feel
that
me
I
know
I
was
I
was
I
no
I
I didn't know how to move in those things.
And I knew that if I was
not only he was going to happen
something,
but I heard the
gritts of the
the little
they were
to where was
to that was
a circle.
Only when
one of those
people
took a
and desvibed the
little.
In that moment
when
his
blood
began
to get,
I saw
a sombra
enormous
with
some eyes
like the
fire
that they
were
to him
was the
scene
the scene
more
I've seen
I'm
to look at
the
eyes
and I
to go to the soil.
Me gave much
my impotency of not have
been able to do anything.
I was very co-barde to not
to help him.
They started to
talk other words.
The candidate was
there, but not
he was he.
But,
to someone
more
in his
body
because
not he
his
voice
changed
he,
it was
in
really
it was
an
an
an
an
super
pesable
I
felt
me
the
respiration
not
not
could
not
my
my
company
was
dismay
of
to
see
what was
what
was
what
was
what
had
to
to go to pass.
And I got one of his security
to take a my
company that was
dismayed and to me
us said that what we
had seen
not had passed
never and that
we were going to
talk.
Passed
the days.
I was
I was
I was
in my
house
and I
don't
want to
get
to get
I'm
much
a lot
and
he said
him
he said
he said
he
had to
go to
the
camp
and that
and
that
me
would
be
that
the
life
and that
we
had
to
continue
because
the
sacrifice
of
his
child
had
to
do
the
past
the
days
and
the
with him and with me was very different.
I was just, I was with fear.
Because I felt that not he.
In the moment of the ritual,
I said that I was
because it was another voice,
it was another person.
I don't know if I had with the idea,
but in the days the next
I, I, I,
I, no, I,
I, no, I,
what I did in that moment,
what I was,
I did what was
able to
do with
his
own
his own
his own
I had
much
fear
much
much
me
so much
me
passed
the
days
we
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
we
to
cost
Really, I really
I felt a porchery of person,
because I was complice and part of that
a psalte of it,
a peter.
No, I could, I,
I, and,
but I, and,
not only temed for me,
but for my family,
too,
and you can see as
see it's like
I'm the
poor person
of the world
and I'm
that many
years I've
lived with
seeing it
so.
But it's
a process
that I'm
going to
therapy
to be
to over
this.
For that
in my
Corre
I
insisted
I
I had I
had I
to
tell
to
something
I
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I don't have
words for that.
I think
that no, there's history
and no...
no,
no,
there's relato
that...
that'scrib the
cruelty
that really
that really
is in the humanity.
You could have
to have
been
person.
I've
understood
that
I'm
the child
of him.
I don't
see
really
had to
be your
blood.
But
having the
money
that I
could
get to
any other
person,
a
other
enemy
or a
sometimes
you put
to think
to
someone that
he had
made
a
might be
maybe it
would
like
as a juste
of
countas
but
his
he was
he
had no
I'm
the
cause
of
nothing
that
all
that's
a
because
he
passed
the
time
and
and
a
group
armed
he
he
he
he
got
he
he
got
he
he
was
so
so
they
It's like I could
I can't
I don't see
I think of the
people
that were
to get them
to get a
group
with delinquents
I think
they were
they're
because
his
body
his body
appeared
in parts
there
he was
disappeared
and they were
and
they were
we went
we're trying
in
pedas
what
that's
that
after that
he's
he's
he's
he's
he
and the
month
he
was
he
was
disappeared
three
four
days
and
we
were
they
were
they're
leaving
his
parts
but
those
parts
had
they're
they
they're
symbols
not
only
only
of
torture
but
but
things
that we
have
seen
in that
ritual
that
that
it's
that
but
no
no
no
pardon
I
always
I've
said
that
with
the
of the
thing
I
don't
not
I
don't
I
don't
but
that
that's
maldito
pagou
and
the
form in how
mentions
that it
was
it.
Pagot
in the
poor
form.
No,
they're
not they're
to
do you
did
do you
do
and he
here is
the
karma
one
more
being
present
in
every
moment
I
don't
see
in
really
was the
group
delictive
with
the
I
had
or
was
something
more
than
what I
saw
that
that
form in
that
appeared
I
believe
that
the
the
human
more
could
be the
person
even
of what
he
did
with
the
the
child
I
think
was
a
more
what
what
happened
with
her
family,
her
what
was
what
he said
the
he said
the
little
always
he
had
orchestrated
okay
that was what
he said
to his
family
and we
we know
to us
we're not
you're
you're trying
a process
legal
actually?
Yeah
there was
an investigation
in the
that I
I paid
for having
me
called
but even
but
still
still
is something
that's
something
that
I
cargo with
that
because
in me
always
is there
I've
done you
have
done
you're
you
have been
you
have been
you
have
been
so
that
no
I
don't
I
don't
I
don't
after
the
process
of this
person
to
how
time
the
investigation
and
for
who
did
the
investigation
for how they
they found
everyone
they
all
they've been
to the other
candidate
to have
sequestered
that they had
sequestered
first
all the
cause
to him
one
because
he
he was
he
he was
he accused
to have
sequestered
the
and
have
disappeared
okay
and
and
then
for having
desvived
to
the candidate.
You in
some
you know
you
did you
what you
did?
I
after
that they
went
I went
I
I
escaped
I
I had I
much
fear
not
only
only
of what
me
could
pass
physically
of what
they
could
do
to the
the carcels,
but
of
something more.
I, in
really,
what I did
that
night,
until
the day
of the
day of
I can
forget.
And
not only
only the
situation
of the
little
what
happened
with him,
but
what I
saw
that
this.
This
person,
for what
I
had
many,
what
what
happens
in many
states and
municipalities
make
pacts
with certain
groups,
they're
they're
they're
in the
power
or they
attack the
group
contrary
or they
they don't
co-operate
and not
they're
and the
same
group
with the
same
the same
the form
that they
were
what they
was what
I was
what I
he was
what I
can't
to say
the
maldito
that
was
like
it's
like
that
to be
to do so
a
man
to
is a
maldito
and
he
paid
every
money
and
he
was
to
go
and
he was
to
repeat
every
moment
before
before
his
death
he
no
I
know
I
really
what
more
is saying, I don't know, it's
something that I'm
I can't imagine, and
to hear you, it
really, much.
Much.
I know that
all what I did
not took
well, and
as I said,
I, I've been
a process
of sanation.
Because
for more
that I'm
asked that
could have
avoided,
I could have
done something.
For most
that I don't let's know he's
I don't
I'm going to
you know
I'm in
so you
so I'm
I'm
I'm
some of
some of
some things
that
that me
did for
to get me
to
want to
get me
to come and
you're trying
you
did you
did
once
when
when I
when I
started
to
see to
how
they were
how they
were
The first time that I decided to
I was when
when he got
the group armado.
There was where I
did count that
that not going to be
well,
the things not going to be
and the second
was when
I said that
that his
that was
that was
not that person
to the
that
no,
I'm
for the
he
was I
was very
very
and
admired.
You
admirables?
Yes.
Before
to
give me
really the
person
that was
the first
that was
the first
that was
the person
competitive
animated
and
and her
ambition
because
I
was I
identified
much
with him
but
for more ambition that I have,
I never would be able to
do something like he did.
That's hard.
After
all,
I think
for what you,
is that the people
know the person
but the description
that you did
of that
is a party
is a party
that I think
that nobody
voted for
them and that
they've been
in the
power.
Oh, yes.
After
after what you
passed and
you've seen
not
been
not been
to have
some people
have gotten
to him
that you
knew that you
knew
that you
went to the
city
I'm
years that
I've
no has
no
I've
no
I'm
I'm
for
fear.
I mean,
I
gave to my
mom
and
my
brothers.
You
did
other
life?
You
have
a
a
or
only
you
have
been
to
have
been
I
try
to
to
to
I
to
I
and
I
changed
much
I've
I've tried
to re-a-sere my
in other
but
believe
that the
that'somber
of what I
did,
of what I
did it,
it's been
that
to a certain
point you
you know,
really
and I
did I,
I was 18
years,
to the
18 years
that
you're
a person
is an adult
but
you don't
have anything
of
the
And you're studying?
You finished your studies?
No.
In when you were
with him,
paused.
I'm dedicated to
and after
what he
and then I went.
Mentioned
to something
that he
left
thinking
too.
He
he
he
did be he.
I sound
much
to a
thing of a
thing
of possession.
You
you'd like he
yeah
was under
the influx
of some
a entity
demon?
I think
that he
he
was
he was
he
was
everything
what I
really
I don't
know
much
knowledge
about
those
things
but
but
after
that
ritual
his
his
mirada
not
was the
most
he
he
he became
the
little
that we
were
because it
was
so my
terror
that I
didn't
me
want to
but
the
last
we
was
another
person
different
yeah
your
ambition
or
your
and the
joy
that
I
had been
to
every
job
that
he
was
a
same.
It's
a
person
friar.
Your
wife
has
entered
what
what
happened
with
his
his
for the
investigations
I
think
so.
Yes.
This
information
saw
at the
light
in
a
moment?
No.
No.
For
the world
in the
world in
that
the
people
that
had
known
only
the
most
has
got
his
husband
really
no
see what
version
he
had
had
investigations
I don't
see
the
she was
she
really
not
never
never
never
I never
never
because
I
know
she was
that I
was
she was
she was
she
husband
had
amateurs?
For the
attitude
that
she
I think
she.
I know
her
his
wife.
The
little
I
did
him
and
with me
he
kept
a
little
time
I think
she
he
took
more
more
more
things
really
really
I
don't
see
how
he
was
she
because
never
we
never
about
she
she
past with you
in moments
short
but the
of the
little of
the
investigation
that was
with
after
with the
confession
that I
did
and my
company
also
because
she
also
she also
talked
that the
sir
I think
that you
matter
that's
delicate
is the
first
that
I'm
my
very
very
very
no
I don't see
very
extrano
after
of a
gravation
it's a
time
that I
have mentioned
and I
know I
have
told
in histories
but
to hear
from
from the
eyes
of someone
that
live
that
that
he's
that
he's
that
those
yantos
no
just
just
just
just
just
just
I
me
me
romp
my
my
man,
I
rompio
because
with that
no
we need
to get
nobody
never.
And
if it
do they
get to
the consequences
because
there's
there
a
there
a
being
a
person
and I
think
we
we
we
we
we
that
the
justice
came
really
very
but
for
my
person
that
person
no
I didn't
die
so easy.
No,
I don't
I mean
I had to
live more
time.
Much more
time.
The
death is
the
one
that's
that type
of
people.
You
have
been persegated
in
some
you've
been
or
or something?
Until
about
three
years,
I'm
I've
lived with
much
fear. How you
you're
really
never
I never
never I
but when
your conscience
no is
a tranquil
no
you don't
he's
to
get to
I'm
I've
been in
these
years
moving
of a
two
three
occasions
for my
mom
that is
the
that is
that
your
city
of
origin
I
have
I
have
regressado
that
or
two
times in
these
a little
more of
10
years
but
like moving
in a
profile
back
and
trying
of two
days
maximum and
I'm
no
I can
get
that
city
without
what
I
didn't
remember
what I
see
and
for me
is
very
difficult
even
your
city
is
And I'm here
because in
really
I need to
I'm going to
I know
I'm going to
judge
but
to be in
it's not
easy.
So,
so you have
gone to
that
city?
How's
times?
Because
you've
said,
because I've
said that's
two times.
But I
don't know
for a
Yeah,
I don't
me
Ked.
I'm
much
fear.
No,
only
I said
I,
there's
I'm,
there's
physically
that we
go and
they're
to live,
we're
going to
go to
or something
but
my
fear
is other
thing.
A
what is?
That
that
a sombra
that I
see.
It's
that
was
horrible.
Really
It's...
It's something that for years
no, me has left to dream.
And the being in this,
well, in that city,
would, to go,
to go, to look, to live a piece,
is revivir all the
that night.
And I prefer
not to do, in reality.
The two occasions
that, that,
I'm, that, in
In fact, for me,
not some visits
because they're
of entry
for
out and
that's
for my
mom,
that's
great.
It's been
very difficult
for me.
I remember
when I
did your
courre
a few
months,
I mean
because
I was
a time
and normally
the people
write
stories
for that
you redactes
but when
you said
that you
wanted
that you
for
to see it
as a
therapy
for
to let us
is something
impressive
and it's
not apt
and I
said in
a
first of
this episode
for
that the
people
it is
a time
that we
have
heard
in stories
but
see
the
cruelty
and the
crudeness
that
the
man
many
is
able
is capable
to
do
for
power
and
I
know
I
I'm a partidist
No, I don't have
a inclination
political, no me
interest the
because I always
I've said,
for me,
it's a place
askeros,
better than
the same
where we're
where we find
a person
that we're
a car
and really
their intentions
are other
and not
I want to
talk exactly
of a
party or
a person or
a person or
but I
let's say
something,
I'll say
The people
The people
So, the
people
sell your image
Vend what
he wants
and I
think the
most times
are when
when they
go to
do so
when there
campaigns
when they
are to
help and
they're
and they're
and they're
when
they're
in the chark
of
water and
under the
water
and I
think that
it's
not so
it's
not so
and
really
many
YouTubers
creators
of
content
have
about
of
this
of how inunds the streets with
and more basura
of images of campaign
and this and the other.
Of the real, family,
I think that we have to
levanted the voice
for,
for generate
conscience of what we
do what we're doing.
Yeah, it was sufficient
to have this type of
people in this type of
cargos
where are able to
do the things
more cruel and more miles.
The contador,
I thank you
I thank you.
I guess
been
to come to
here.
I know
that it
was easy.
I know
that's
he was
postponing
much this
interview.
Muchissimo.
Muchissimo.
One
once we
got us
two
we did we
did we
but the
third was
the
thing.
I thank
much
that you
have been
thank you
thank
for
giving
the
confidence
to us
thank
for
permit
me
to
tell
to
it's
something
that's
something
I need
I need
to
I'm
so
I know
that you
want to
you're going to
but
believe
that what
I had
to
pay
I'm
and
I'm
still
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
thank
much
we
we're
for
term
to
this
episode
Thank you.