EXTRA ANORMAL - Crímenes Paranormales feat. Criminalmente | NoEsNormal.tv

Episode Date: February 9, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The cases that have been to be able to be a cases that have been with a crime of those things, you know, of those things, where they're about people
Starting point is 00:00:28 of people people of people with a lot of that did you do you
Starting point is 00:00:34 something something aterrador digno of a film of but
Starting point is 00:00:38 that's all it's all. There many in these cases things
Starting point is 00:00:43 things strange that not quadran with informs policeiacos that
Starting point is 00:00:47 not quadra with the science or the method scientific and it is
Starting point is 00:00:51 where many people begin to specular that that
Starting point is 00:00:54 after a tragedy probably existed the influence of something demoniac something occult or
Starting point is 00:01:00 an end in this moment we're to start with this sabbado and it's normal
Starting point is 00:01:06 let's let's the introduction the the the obscurity discreetos
Starting point is 00:01:14 that all the long of the history incontable incontable
Starting point is 00:01:18 crimens have cremec has cremecid but some of
Starting point is 00:01:24 they're not only kept without resolve, but they were the own real assassinoes that disappear
Starting point is 00:01:31 in the air, victims that are from the tomb, entities invisible
Starting point is 00:01:36 that they have their rastro in the scene of the crime. Here
Starting point is 00:01:39 we not we don't we talk about the impossible, of what
Starting point is 00:01:44 he defia the reason. In this program we're we're the cases
Starting point is 00:01:49 more incientants where the paranormal is with the
Starting point is 00:01:54 expedientes malditos, criminals and phenomena and phenomena that are all
Starting point is 00:02:00 investigation logical. Addentrate with us in the delgated in the life and
Starting point is 00:02:07 what comes this. This is not is normal and remember, there are cases that
Starting point is 00:02:14 never never should be there. Well, as you know, family,
Starting point is 00:02:20 as we're, we're we're going to talk of that type of situations that they really desafia,
Starting point is 00:02:26 as it's the introduction, all logic, all the explanation, and for this this in-vibo so special, us accompanied two people
Starting point is 00:02:37 that I think are those ideales to talk of these, are those great friends, great creators
Starting point is 00:02:43 of content and I want to start with my left to my friend Mariana Maus.
Starting point is 00:02:49 How is Mariana? How are all? Good nights. Very content to be here
Starting point is 00:02:53 and say to say to your audience that is the maximum. Thank you Maryana for
Starting point is 00:02:57 accept this invitation. For the people I see that many you know many people
Starting point is 00:03:02 you've seen many times with Fepo collaborating with great friends also. For
Starting point is 00:03:07 there if there is someone that you can't do your social? Yes,
Starting point is 00:03:12 of me can find literally like Marianna Maws in
Starting point is 00:03:15 all the social and I have a project that is very new it's
Starting point is 00:03:20 called Platicas Occultas I'm in YouTube and in Spotify. And it's a podcast to learn of brujeria,
Starting point is 00:03:27 echiceria, occultism, and more. Perfect, Mariana. Muchismas. And of my right to present to a excellent host,
Starting point is 00:03:35 a grand creator of content and the person that is also this podcast, that is I really do I recommend much,
Starting point is 00:03:41 that is criminally, the good Fermex. How is that, thank you. Good nights. Good nights to all the audience.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Well, before not, much thanks for the invitation. I'm very content to be here and to come to talk stories
Starting point is 00:03:53 terrorificas and criminales. Perfect. Family, for favor, in this moment, I'm going to ask you, you know, that always that we are in-vibes, or
Starting point is 00:04:03 a in-vib, because if we're completely in-vibu, in this moment, the people that say, no, that's not-in-vib, it's an-strel. No, it's an-in-vibu.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Always we're always that are getting are welcome, be-re-pre-for-fore if they're in-cassita, go-s, where they're being
Starting point is 00:04:22 this in-vivo and they're going to let's some cases that I'm sure that you're sure
Starting point is 00:04:30 that you're also before if you're not you're subscribed to this channel I'm going to get to
Starting point is 00:04:36 you're and then I want to mention a little those in-vivos are available in media of podcasts
Starting point is 00:04:43 in any any of your favorite for you guys and you do you do you do you see as
Starting point is 00:04:49 for there. I want to initiate with a question The fact This question Me Causa Because you're
Starting point is 00:04:58 Well, well They're in Projects that They have to Very much Also, also with the thing
Starting point is 00:05:03 Paranormal That has With with phantamas With demonios With grujeries With
Starting point is 00:05:08 and I I want I want What what does What does What is That is that
Starting point is 00:05:16 You say Ah, Summach I don't see There There's a something that is a conflict.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Mariana? To me, I think what the most me could give me would be
Starting point is 00:05:32 I think it would be with with entities demoniacas definitive because I think they're so
Starting point is 00:05:38 so they're so much not good not, that sometimes there are many people who
Starting point is 00:05:42 can't have control of the situation but definitely never
Starting point is 00:05:46 we never we know we're we're Precisely, well, I grab an episode for your channel, that is Plutics
Starting point is 00:05:54 Occultas, that I recommend for that you go and so subscribe and put them for there, I'm from there. I'm from there.
Starting point is 00:06:00 That's a that much people go to be to the people that many people that many times think, or
Starting point is 00:06:07 have this ego of a word of, not, to say, I'm all all, I can do
Starting point is 00:06:12 make an invocation of the demonio more powerful or of the same Lucifer and they
Starting point is 00:06:17 intend to work with this type of forces, but there's a moment like a movie, no, of Marvel type Dr. Strange, where they're in the control of the chisel and it's all out of control and it's a disaster that, unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:06:30 because, uh, collapse and it's, so, what, good response? My friend Fermex? I mean, there's, yeah. There are various things that, more than I'm, I, I've got respect. One of them, that is the most me inquietta, is the Uiha,
Starting point is 00:06:46 precisely. The Uiha, I never I've never had ever is that never would have, I've seen persons that have played, and I've seen in the moment how is that they're present to some manifestations. I never would say, because for me, to play
Starting point is 00:07:04 the WIHA, it's like to take your telephone cellular, mark a number at ajar, you know who knows who can't tell you, you can't answer, can't be a little, a man, a senior, or can be a criminal. Or, you can't be a criminal. I think that
Starting point is 00:07:16 the Uiha is exactly the same. You know a invocation, abres a portal, no you know
Starting point is 00:07:22 who's at the other other side, no you know to be to be a question.
Starting point is 00:07:24 So, I think I'm much respect and not the question. You, what you
Starting point is 00:07:29 think, you know, the fact, I mean, the fact, the fact, and you know, the
Starting point is 00:07:34 reason, to mention that making, that these evocations, there's there's a environment
Starting point is 00:07:39 with what eventually you're to have to be a contact, but
Starting point is 00:07:42 you know if this is good, is a malo, is an entity that probably is a trap in a space
Starting point is 00:07:47 or time, or probably be an entity malignant, a bad astral as well, he knows, a demonio,
Starting point is 00:07:52 or something would like to play with fibras very sensible. You, what do you think that
Starting point is 00:07:59 there is a reason, and I think that the people, I'm saying that I'm not I'm saying
Starting point is 00:08:03 that I'm because the extremes not are good, but there are to be responsible
Starting point is 00:08:09 under what concept and in what moment we we're going to use, For example, if you're going to
Starting point is 00:08:13 to use to try to try to defying what there to try to try to try to see what happens, I think that's
Starting point is 00:08:21 you can put in a situation very dangerous and also if you're going to use with much fear, I think
Starting point is 00:08:28 that's a problem because very probably not you're going to be a lot of because it's difficult
Starting point is 00:08:34 to be there there are people that are getting the attention of a demonia. So, if you
Starting point is 00:08:39 you're going to get to a table not very so simple as for that an entity
Starting point is 00:08:42 demoniac to put attention that's that's one of the things that of the thing that we're in a
Starting point is 00:08:48 way of the other side that they like much to play with us so if you you're going
Starting point is 00:08:52 to start having a moment of using it you're susceptible to the game the
Starting point is 00:08:59 thing with that you're that's about that probably it's probably is some
Starting point is 00:09:01 spiritu that's there's to have to have to know what they're practically
Starting point is 00:09:06 simply the control of this ritual and mention you something
Starting point is 00:09:10 that's a really me, I've been thinking, I've had been people who
Starting point is 00:09:15 have done a pact demoniac and something that's when I'm really, is when I
Starting point is 00:09:20 ask, how was that fact? It was easy? And me saying, no.
Starting point is 00:09:24 So, of really, de really, it cost much much,
Starting point is 00:09:29 concretar a pacto or, for the most a manifestation. It's impressive
Starting point is 00:09:33 because there people that there outside that say, no, no, not repit
Starting point is 00:09:36 the number of three times because you you call. And, for one other, there's the
Starting point is 00:09:40 people that is the people who want to get grimorios and that are doing a lot of things that have been cuted, and
Starting point is 00:09:47 to use their same blood, to attract us, a lot of things, and they're, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:09:53 they've done, or, have been a person that me said, I'm just, you, yorando,
Starting point is 00:09:58 carted, this, tirado, rogando, or so, with the grimorio there, the belles and
Starting point is 00:10:04 all, where it was where it's a lot of things, there are other people that said, no,
Starting point is 00:10:10 I've got to go to go to come to an invocation and that's so that's so. So I think
Starting point is 00:10:17 it's a much sense what you mention you but also there's a where I mention a Fermex that probably
Starting point is 00:10:24 there probably there probably probably not if you know to call them more range that are those
Starting point is 00:10:30 are those are those are those pings, the chamoos the same but that's there and
Starting point is 00:10:36 that eventually he will take the control of this. Yeah, exactly. So, at final, we're, we're in front of, so, we're probably probably mean, is someone who's probably is
Starting point is 00:10:47 a little bit more or maybe not, and it's like the people. It's like if you go to the car. If you, uh, you, at the most,
Starting point is 00:10:57 you're asking the hour to someone, there's a person that's a goodroo and you say, well, there's another person that's going to
Starting point is 00:11:03 get to get, and you're going to start. So, is the same probability to find something as well as
Starting point is 00:11:09 as you like when you're in the way, but not you know you're in some moment
Starting point is 00:11:12 these entities that they're to get to specifically the Uiha eligen to the person
Starting point is 00:11:19 with the person with they're going to make a contact more or do that I'll say why?
Starting point is 00:11:24 I can't talk to a micro-history I'll go ahead brother in a through Instagram
Starting point is 00:11:28 a person me contacted and me made a story that she gave this person that person
Starting point is 00:11:34 that me contact is a Infermer. I think that I live in the south of
Starting point is 00:11:37 the country, I'm remember I'm and I'm said that a night
Starting point is 00:11:41 while she was a guardia gave a family and the mother
Starting point is 00:11:45 and he got a man, he got with convulsions he went abentando spuma
Starting point is 00:11:52 or so mal, mal, mal mal, he went to get to get to and then
Starting point is 00:11:57 they're when they're to try to examine the medical, it was a
Starting point is 00:12:00 man who was a sumamente delgatito he He gotro a medical that pesable and a lot of 80 kilos and of a manotazo
Starting point is 00:12:07 he bented to a lot. So, there's turned the alarms and said, how is possible? They tried to help them. It was made to submiter between two this, and they said
Starting point is 00:12:17 they were the same. I was, I was they moved with a facility. When they came to the medical and the medical and the doctor
Starting point is 00:12:24 what was going to what was what was what happened? The mom he said, certainly is a child, never had been
Starting point is 00:12:30 nothing, but it's a strange, or something. What was what what was what was? We've got
Starting point is 00:12:37 that my child in the last year he was about 60 times with the whiff. The
Starting point is 00:12:42 kid is he was to say before to enter in this trance or in this
Starting point is 00:12:47 shock. The medical were totally impossibil to help do it.
Starting point is 00:12:53 The only that was a story is a little more longer but
Starting point is 00:12:55 it's it's in that the people can be impossible
Starting point is 00:12:58 and even you don't you make an an
Starting point is 00:13:02 dictam about the diagnostico the which literally said possession. I said
Starting point is 00:13:08 it's possible that a medical put to this and me said, no is normal.
Starting point is 00:13:13 The medical that was this diagnostic was very impressioned no knew to
Starting point is 00:13:19 do that did a diagnosis because no because it was not because it was
Starting point is 00:13:25 not not not was not he put possession and he was he's
Starting point is 00:13:30 recommended to to the area of psychiatry. They gave a pass and those manded to
Starting point is 00:13:34 psychiatry. How you explain this type of things? You say there people who
Starting point is 00:13:41 have a life trying to do a contact and a point a kid a time of
Starting point is 00:13:46 times and boom. Of course we've talked about and it's a point very,
Starting point is 00:13:51 very valid and also I think important to analyze how is that there people who
Starting point is 00:13:57 don't they're who like no, this, I know, this, I don't look
Starting point is 00:14:02 and the people who do you need to be able to do you know, I think it's the part important where,
Starting point is 00:14:08 as you have you have been, you know, that probably maybe they serve, or they
Starting point is 00:14:14 give the attention, or it, so there's, I know what is, but probably probably, you,
Starting point is 00:14:20 it's a facility and be more practical, more rapid, that you have done on contact,
Starting point is 00:14:26 and you will be a form impression You know, you know, what a person if a person can get to have, could be, that you're going to be a person much more easy to manipulate.
Starting point is 00:14:39 It's saying, the person that wants to call an entity and want to have control over there, evidently, has the knowledge of sufficient to manipulate the situation. Yes. No, no, no, not will be, never the control
Starting point is 00:14:50 because not will have to be a fear, because he's over what is a person who knows, is going to have fear at the point of the panic a person
Starting point is 00:14:58 that's a person who enter in panic he's totally the control of the
Starting point is 00:15:01 situation and I think that's that is a lot of an entity demoniac
Starting point is 00:15:04 because I want to you because to you to be to be
Starting point is 00:15:09 to be to be to do what I want to do you with a good
Starting point is 00:15:14 man or a good broho then no no you say that you say that
Starting point is 00:15:19 you can get to get to get to control complete of a situation,
Starting point is 00:15:26 but a person manipulable, I think it would be the ideal. You've done a good, I've seen to you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:33 If you've played, you've said that no. No, no, no, I'd do not.
Starting point is 00:15:38 No, in a future or no any future. In some occasion, fatt, we're just
Starting point is 00:15:43 we're in a point to grab a chapter for insomnia. And the capital was just about
Starting point is 00:15:49 the Uiha I'm not, I'm going to grab, I'm a And it's occurred to put
Starting point is 00:15:56 to play, you know that the environment so, we're not we're still not even
Starting point is 00:16:02 not were in the cameras, so they put to work, the ambient changed, the vibra came-and-
Starting point is 00:16:08 and it seemed a super extra-straign. I, I agree completely with you because I've
Starting point is 00:16:14 been in that situation and, yeah, something and the people more sensible also
Starting point is 00:16:21 this change, this change, this chock of energy. If you do you want to see like that, but, I mean, I do, I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:30 a form in, like I do you do, like you said, how you do you do do you do, do you do that's in or you're going to ask you, or you
Starting point is 00:16:39 like, you, so you, how do you do you, so, how do you see, you know, in this occasion that comment, my caredissimo
Starting point is 00:16:44 Fermix, that day, of actually, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, saludos,
Starting point is 00:16:51 Antrosamudio. Paludos. And the folk that was the guide to, for how activate the Uiha,
Starting point is 00:16:57 to start this kind of to start with the communication. Now, in this moment there is to be very
Starting point is 00:17:04 realist and a spirit, obviously not not just to be based on what you say, but also
Starting point is 00:17:10 how you think the situation? How do you know the situation? So, if you have been very important, and nothing of what
Starting point is 00:17:22 was like for me that was like that you could alterer in an initial but this before you
Starting point is 00:17:27 had you had the first was the first um I've been attempted and I did do it
Starting point is 00:17:33 like to work and it but I've had been communication with with other entities defunters
Starting point is 00:17:41 etc with other so I think that also that was what I did you so I'm
Starting point is 00:17:46 okay but at the moment to start saying that you yeah you're ready to you're
Starting point is 00:17:50 talking with the Spirit, I remember much, that he started the,
Starting point is 00:17:54 the planchette. And I thought I think that Fepo he was moved. Uh-huh. So, then I was
Starting point is 00:18:01 when I was so when I was so, so, okay, no he moved him. So, so I,
Starting point is 00:18:07 but I still the time, but I didn't know, Samudio us had commented as the oration
Starting point is 00:18:14 how it was in Latin. But, but I know, I don't know the Latin, for me
Starting point is 00:18:17 is very important because the words, literal, in the magic, the people, many will know. The magic
Starting point is 00:18:25 of the words is importantatism. If you don't know what you're saying and not you're not you're saying well, it's problematic.
Starting point is 00:18:33 So, I, in my head, literal, I said the things that I had to say in an idiom that I knew and that I,
Starting point is 00:18:41 I, oh, so, I, do, it's the power of the intention. Exactly. If not, if you do
Starting point is 00:18:44 that's the power, and as you don't know you're saying, how the intentions. Exactly. So that was
Starting point is 00:18:52 what I mean me I do you know, but oh-o and I'm not is to a Uiha because no is
Starting point is 00:18:58 a game. It's a invocation. It's a thing for a game. It's a job and what
Starting point is 00:19:02 you want to what you want to it's a real and not is for a thing is a
Starting point is 00:19:08 thing that's a thing that's another thing is that probably not functione and other
Starting point is 00:19:14 is that for you go and that you try you're a question in a comment there
Starting point is 00:19:18 the that's moderating that's that's a lot of the whig I think
Starting point is 00:19:24 I think I'm going to do you do that's that's a thing I've really,
Starting point is 00:19:30 this theme always me has been this sarcastic that's sarcastic this
Starting point is 00:19:37 thing that's never me has made the attention
Starting point is 00:19:39 because the result always is changing is different
Starting point is 00:19:43 but in this point muchachos I want to talk of the
Starting point is 00:19:50 things that have marked I think some of those of those that were
Starting point is 00:19:56 dignos of a film of a inspiration that this phrase that
Starting point is 00:20:00 me that is the reality that inspired the fiction
Starting point is 00:20:04 what does that so that's put the eye
Starting point is 00:20:07 and have that that for recrear what in
Starting point is 00:20:10 the what in some was a real and you
Starting point is 00:20:13 I can you the first theme of this night to see
Starting point is 00:20:19 what is the we're in the we're in teresita Vasa the fact
Starting point is 00:20:26 it's a image aterrador to be a a woman is like a a woman like a
Starting point is 00:20:32 60 years more or less that's like a kind of a position or
Starting point is 00:20:37 something or something or something so is, so is you want to you
Starting point is 00:20:43 want to you All right? All right. All right. I'm going to be with the intention to start all the history. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:52 No, no, I know, de course. No, but the case is prepared, Paco. Okay, all, none more I want I, that I think,
Starting point is 00:21:00 that's one night, you're in your house, tranquill, viewing the television, is the year of 1997, and the year of
Starting point is 00:21:11 the night, and at the night, and you start of the seven, you start to o'leer like a kemado.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Wuele rarro. Levantas, revises your department and you see that there's that
Starting point is 00:21:24 something. Something it's reportas and result that the department of your
Starting point is 00:21:31 becina was that was getting in the fire all good and
Starting point is 00:21:37 they're they're they're in a colchon okay out of the
Starting point is 00:21:41 place. It's they can't and they're the body of a woman
Starting point is 00:21:45 of 48 years desnued and without life. So, this
Starting point is 00:21:52 case, the woman was Teresa Tavasa. Okay? Now,
Starting point is 00:21:58 the moment to investigate the place, no had been seen nothing,
Starting point is 00:22:03 no had some rastro of any type of any
Starting point is 00:22:08 type of the autopsy extrano is that first they're that the most could have
Starting point is 00:22:15 been a case of an abuse intimate an abuser and at a moment of autopsy
Starting point is 00:22:23 they are that they're not so that's that's that's it's more the case
Starting point is 00:22:28 okay no there no there no there there was a note that was that he
Starting point is 00:22:35 had written to see a simism that I said, Compros to theater for
Starting point is 00:22:44 A.S. It was a not for her same, a recordatorio. But who was A.
Starting point is 00:22:50 A. S. Nobody knew. Resulta that that that was the
Starting point is 00:22:54 night, Teresita had had been with an friend and he had
Starting point is 00:23:00 commented to be a man to the house. No he said who
Starting point is 00:23:05 who? And no he didn't a the only Pista that
Starting point is 00:23:10 there. But nobody knew who was a that's. At the
Starting point is 00:23:15 same time that this case, result that Teresa
Starting point is 00:23:19 had a company of a doctor, a a
Starting point is 00:23:25 family Choua, well, was they know and they had
Starting point is 00:23:30 said and had been affected for the news this this
Starting point is 00:23:38 A woman, the senior Chua, he gets to have dreams, and be a teresita
Starting point is 00:23:46 that was that I saw, he said but all in dreams. And so
Starting point is 00:23:52 he was his marid, then the things started to get to
Starting point is 00:23:56 talk. The senior Chua that of passing of the
Starting point is 00:24:03 time he was to start to start to start to hear voices
Starting point is 00:24:07 but Recordemous that are medical. Tant to the husband as
Starting point is 00:24:12 she's, they're in this type of things and simply she was
Starting point is 00:24:18 she was she was affected by the situation. The problem was
Starting point is 00:24:23 that there was a day where the she was sat and was to be
Starting point is 00:24:30 back with the eyes and looking to see around
Starting point is 00:24:34 and he He started and he started to murmur. When he's
Starting point is 00:24:38 he's his his wife and he says, what's what he he says
Starting point is 00:24:44 to talk and he respond. Ida being and he he starts to respond
Starting point is 00:24:50 but no it was the voice of his wife that he was not
Starting point is 00:24:53 not even the accent the accent was of a person like Philippina
Starting point is 00:25:01 the thing is that Teresita Baza, was a woman Philippina.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Okay. She said that she was her her and he began to give
Starting point is 00:25:16 like certain pistas of his assesinato and he and he started who was
Starting point is 00:25:22 the responsible the doctor Chua simply knew that like a more something
Starting point is 00:25:28 I don't know what was going to but the soceses started
Starting point is 00:25:32 to augment and so of a woman totally acuerda
Starting point is 00:25:37 a in a hospital a matrimonio a man a matrimonio began to have more
Starting point is 00:25:44 of these scenes in where simply he was and it was like the
Starting point is 00:25:49 spirit of Teresita to take a possession of the the doctor Chua
Starting point is 00:25:56 wow but that that's not was all the doctor obviously no
Starting point is 00:26:02 I think in what was happening, but of a sudden what he said to the woman
Starting point is 00:26:07 started to and he said specifically who had been who had been who had rebated the
Starting point is 00:26:15 life to Teresita and he he said the name that was Alan Shawory A.S.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Okay So, you can't that said that said to buy bouletos to the
Starting point is 00:26:26 theater for A. And it it's a quadrar a little more. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:30 so yeah. Regress to this possession. But now, he's not regress amable, regress a inojada. Teresita, yeah, I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:26:42 about a lot of, because now you know who me quitted the and not you're doing nothing. Ui. The doctor Chua
Starting point is 00:26:51 he says, no me is doing nothing? No, I don't have proofs? Elementos. Element.
Starting point is 00:26:58 How will get I? to with the police and to say, I know who he's got with the life of Teresita
Starting point is 00:27:05 because me it's even even suspicious. You're even suspicious. Exactly, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:13 But then Teresaita he started more things. Okay? Now, Alan Shaury result,
Starting point is 00:27:21 that was that he was he went to the hospital where they had okay?
Starting point is 00:27:28 This person Resulta that he had said to Teresita that he was
Starting point is 00:27:32 going to do that a television etc. And then Teresita as a thank you
Starting point is 00:27:40 had notated that he had been to buy some some that he wanted
Starting point is 00:27:44 that he wanted as he and he he said the reason the motive of
Starting point is 00:27:51 my assassino no was intent of abuse and no was nothing
Starting point is 00:27:56 for the simply me and me robes joyeria that me had given my papa that specifically me had
Starting point is 00:28:04 brought to another country that was France now he described the jewelry that they robbed
Starting point is 00:28:12 but not not just he said he said what he said what he did with her and one
Starting point is 00:28:18 of those collars he was he gave to his wife so Alan the
Starting point is 00:28:25 the culpable he had had that's he robbed to his novia.
Starting point is 00:28:33 The Dr. Chua he said, he's he's he's he's you know
Starting point is 00:28:39 you know you know you know and even he said he said he had all the
Starting point is 00:28:43 proof for the policeia and he he said all the he said obviously
Starting point is 00:28:50 the police as said they're this type oh he's
Starting point is 00:28:53 he's not he's not no no no no
Starting point is 00:28:55 the so but the curiosity always is major. So, then I
Starting point is 00:29:03 called much the attention and they said, we're going to investigate. And they went and
Starting point is 00:29:08 investigate. And they find that the tal, Alan Shaury if he had been to the
Starting point is 00:29:14 department of Teresita just the day that they're in the day. Investigating,
Starting point is 00:29:21 they can't that the novi had the collier of Teresita. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:29 All right. And being so quadrallado, the type accept what he does to Teresita. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And all so it because the spirit took possession of his company of the
Starting point is 00:29:47 companyer of his he obviously he went to the carcel, etc. But
Starting point is 00:29:54 his abogado was still more intelligent because after a rato
Starting point is 00:29:59 they're like a kind of a kind of that's not really that's not doesn't have
Starting point is 00:30:06 fundamental legal has a fundamental really for nothing after after five years
Starting point is 00:30:11 Alan he's he's the carcel after after that had been declared
Starting point is 00:30:18 culpable to have been cuted the life to teresita
Starting point is 00:30:22 but until today is of the cases more sonated
Starting point is 00:30:26 because was resolved literal for a spirit that was molest and had taken possession of someone
Starting point is 00:30:33 and the own, the real spirit resolved his crime. Imagineate that you're so desperated
Starting point is 00:30:39 I mean I think I'm going to correct you, you also have much information of this
Starting point is 00:30:45 that there there are much forms in which one person or the essence or a spirit no,
Starting point is 00:30:50 no tracienda so he gets trappeded in this plan in this space of time
Starting point is 00:30:56 how great that's a motive to get you I'm in
Starting point is 00:31:00 it's a probably can be if you have a thing with your thing
Starting point is 00:31:05 to get to get to get for it's so great that
Starting point is 00:31:08 you make you even even even even even
Starting point is 00:31:11 even even but I don't see you what think
Starting point is 00:31:16 in this aspect of what do you think you think so
Starting point is 00:31:20 so that this doesn't even I say no I'm to
Starting point is 00:31:25 resolve the the crime that's the crime that's I think what's the thing is the
Starting point is 00:31:30 spirit of Teresita was in a form so abrupt that the people when they're going enojated
Starting point is 00:31:36 because they're they're they're they're and they can't many things.
Starting point is 00:31:41 One, no are not are they're they're they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:31:46 trying to continue their life. Existens these other other spirits
Starting point is 00:31:49 that want they're so I think Teresita so really
Starting point is 00:31:53 because person and he they're the life just for a pair of joyas. I think that
Starting point is 00:31:59 that that made that's that's that I'm a me most me impacted
Starting point is 00:32:06 was the terror that was the poor woman the the termera
Starting point is 00:32:12 the woman imagine imagineate so so of so of so you
Starting point is 00:32:16 see her to see her that you observe to hear the and how you
Starting point is 00:32:21 don't you do you do you does it's despera and he takes
Starting point is 00:32:24 a possession. And that is so it's the spirits. First, they're obsessions, and the spirits, if they can get to the possession. But, let, what happens? I think the case of Teresita Baza is real. I mean, I think, I think, if there was a possession, I think so, my question is the
Starting point is 00:32:40 question is the next. What had to special Teresita Baza to have that privilege to regressor and accuser to his assessing? What privileges had she, why not regressan hundreds and
Starting point is 00:32:54 hundreds of people who are in situations pejores, maybe more more crueles that Teresita Baza,
Starting point is 00:33:01 but because she she's real what I would like to know and ask me to say, what I
Starting point is 00:33:08 had a special Teresita for that she let me let me make sure, because in a plan
Starting point is 00:33:12 where she was very probably that you can't manage her and do what she
Starting point is 00:33:18 whatever there. Obviously there regals as we have in the earth, we have in
Starting point is 00:33:22 other plans. What had that special to be able to go to the person that he was I don't
Starting point is 00:33:30 think you're a little bit of a special. To be, oh, of a repent if there are there
Starting point is 00:33:34 some people, and if you're just a person in life has a don't, depending on
Starting point is 00:33:40 how important and so impactant has been this don, the spirit of actually could
Starting point is 00:33:45 functionar like a like a even a, even if were a a saint we're
Starting point is 00:33:51 that the santo were people are people so I think there are people that have
Starting point is 00:33:57 some don that can they're in actually to get it probably teresita no
Starting point is 00:34:04 because no there's more information of you don't know we know we know the education
Starting point is 00:34:10 spiritual that could have been having had been teresita one two
Starting point is 00:34:13 if she if she had had had been much more more these things.
Starting point is 00:34:21 That for so exist the miracles of the santa that are again, we're in
Starting point is 00:34:25 people who were people who were people. And how they're to make you, imagineate to the
Starting point is 00:34:30 death. For so they they're they're not I think a little strange because I think
Starting point is 00:34:36 that many that may of the people. It's put all the faith to say.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yes, are many are much factors. Some many. Some much factors.
Starting point is 00:34:44 To be I mean I think is the moment to make a question.
Starting point is 00:34:49 It's said And I've mentioned many times that the magic sexual is of the
Starting point is 00:34:52 most but I toped with a passage in a book that I'm going to
Starting point is 00:34:59 mention to what is that that is that even is major to the sexual
Starting point is 00:35:05 that is the force of the enoho the ira the ira I
Starting point is 00:35:12 what I what I did this is that the ira is still
Starting point is 00:35:17 using the intention much more more than the magic sexual.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Because this book described that the air is the only, the only energy
Starting point is 00:35:28 that the human not can contain. So, that obligatorially you have you have to
Starting point is 00:35:32 get it. You know, you have to get to your body, if someone you are going and
Starting point is 00:35:37 you're so the ira has to the anger has to do that has a
Starting point is 00:35:41 force and probably probably be more than the energy of the
Starting point is 00:35:47 sexuality. So So I don't see, I mean, so I'm occurred something, maybe strange, me dear rarrow, that maybe this woman
Starting point is 00:35:55 suffered a lot before before before, I don't see, something, no see, so, her energy in that moment
Starting point is 00:36:00 she was she was going, we know, we're going, we're going, let's see, the body to get a
Starting point is 00:36:04 other things, other chemicals, no see, could have been a a mixture of something specifically in
Starting point is 00:36:10 her, for that? Yeah, maybe, is what you do you say, is super certain,
Starting point is 00:36:15 laira, all the sentiments Firtes if they can affect to do it's more
Starting point is 00:36:20 even lamentableablement the mindably the is so really that you can't make you
Starting point is 00:36:25 make you and the we've been we've been that we're that's the really to come
Starting point is 00:36:31 to get of a situation that a sometimes that makes that we're that's
Starting point is 00:36:35 that's all that's even even can't even even can't affectar into the other side
Starting point is 00:36:40 when a when a spirit enter to this plan because it's
Starting point is 00:36:44 out of his physical if you could affect the fear of the no point of
Starting point is 00:36:51 the know how time time took teresita in perder the that's
Starting point is 00:36:56 that's not in any not so if she she was a point
Starting point is 00:36:59 to get it's like if she she had
Starting point is 00:37:02 she probably probably she established that mission and
Starting point is 00:37:08 the she he executed one she was on
Starting point is 00:37:10 the other or while was exactly exactly Okay,
Starting point is 00:37:14 Okay, It's interesting. It could be. I think I think it definitely was real, eh? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:37:19 but my question was that because how special could be Teresita Abasa to have
Starting point is 00:37:23 to have that's a but I'm so I'm I'm getting yeah the point, more or less
Starting point is 00:37:29 or less. Fiatty that is one of the cases, I feel that the people,
Starting point is 00:37:33 when it when it starts to know the part of the the, I don't
Starting point is 00:37:37 I don't I'm not I'm so I'm so I'm kind of that
Starting point is 00:37:43 in some moment I think it was that Arche and Johnson no, is that this
Starting point is 00:37:47 person is that in the carcel but for not the position demoniac
Starting point is 00:37:51 so it's the moment where the court and the judge don't me come to quente
Starting point is 00:37:57 or so it's a thing a very very delicate but I think it's
Starting point is 00:38:02 very much the important to I think that I think was
Starting point is 00:38:05 before the of them or at the well that
Starting point is 00:38:13 Uh, no, I just had that question. Genial. Yeah. We're going to the next, for favor, Casiel. If you're just for there. Uh, is that that's, me
Starting point is 00:38:23 it's that I'm it. It's a time for that story, I'm going to leather face, Leatherface. There's, there's
Starting point is 00:38:31 for a bit. A ver. A bit, for favor, I have to mention something, the people, the community extra-normal,
Starting point is 00:38:38 you know, that the episodes, for children not is content of
Starting point is 00:38:45 children what in this moment my friend my friend is
Starting point is 00:38:50 not a little can hear of so there family
Starting point is 00:38:54 for favor let I'm so I'm so that
Starting point is 00:38:58 there not there there in some minutes of
Starting point is 00:39:03 the nothing I say that Santa Claus are
Starting point is 00:39:05 so so so so so you don't you
Starting point is 00:39:11 don't you So, yeah, with that yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:16 we're talking about. It's the second time that's the second time that's being being being invited in some podcast.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I'm going to try to have much quite with my words, but you all the reason to
Starting point is 00:39:29 the people that are being, I'm going, I'm I'm saying, this this not is
Starting point is 00:39:33 a story invented, this not a story that's a that's a story real.
Starting point is 00:39:41 This is a an assassination or various but more more than that the context in the
Starting point is 00:39:48 that's how it's how does and how it's really is a really is so much
Starting point is 00:39:53 really so it's not for not for kids if they're with your or
Starting point is 00:39:58 being this in live in real no don't don't don't
Starting point is 00:40:02 let you let's let's I'm I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm
Starting point is 00:40:08 this this story I'm so kind of that It's very, very grueza. I'm going to have much
Starting point is 00:40:15 careful with my words, I'll repeat. There are moments in the history that not those narrate as well have been to understand because it's
Starting point is 00:40:24 too cruda. It's too very, but I'll tryer in what possible that they're that's submerged in this
Starting point is 00:40:30 story, that is, that's, I'm going to congear a time criminal is sumament terrorificed,
Starting point is 00:40:38 for many factors that invulucra. You know what is what is which is real. It has inspired various
Starting point is 00:40:45 films like the that you've got to put there. There's a man massacre in Texas where this person leaderface.
Starting point is 00:40:53 But, well, we're going to have much care with that. For who yeah
Starting point is 00:40:58 be concentrated in the history, I'm going to ask you to imagine this. Imagine
Starting point is 00:41:05 a house a house constructed of madera, a house that rechinan your paths
Starting point is 00:41:10 when you enter's in it. In this house open the door a pair
Starting point is 00:41:14 of policeies enter sysylosament the light is apgated only
Starting point is 00:41:20 there's only there a light that's illuminating the little of
Starting point is 00:41:25 the house that's to turn on their lanterns
Starting point is 00:41:30 and the first that they are in front is
Starting point is 00:41:34 a house decorated with cortin cordon cordon Cordones
Starting point is 00:41:40 for courtinas, senaceros, lamparas. You know what's the horrible of this?
Starting point is 00:41:49 That these cortinas, these lamparas, these ciniceros, were were made
Starting point is 00:41:55 with with rest of humans. Yes. They've found in
Starting point is 00:42:02 some things that caused horror, cinturon s, silas tapisas
Starting point is 00:42:08 with skin, lamparas, a corset, but not had been found the worst. No, they had encountered that that would have been made of horror. All the part of the house was tapisada of this type of elements. Subured lengthly the escalers
Starting point is 00:42:27 and entered to a a quarter in special that was closed. When it opened, they found this quarter pulkro, impeccable, the Cama Tendida, no element biological as
Starting point is 00:42:41 those that I've been mentioned in this quarter, all I'm in perfect state.
Starting point is 00:42:46 This quarter was a court that Ed Gain, which is the person
Starting point is 00:42:52 of this story, had conserved in perfect conditions because this quarter
Starting point is 00:42:56 in some moment had pertenes to the mother. But there
Starting point is 00:43:00 was the most horrible. They were coming on the second piece of
Starting point is 00:43:04 this house, with the lampars encendied opened another quarter
Starting point is 00:43:09 this quarter pertenessia to Edgain and the most horrible the most
Starting point is 00:43:15 impressive of this exploration that they were doing is that when opened
Starting point is 00:43:22 the room they found various masks these masks these maskas
Starting point is 00:43:28 were made with rest of people that some that
Starting point is 00:43:32 some that they what What I did Gain, with all this, I'll go to tell you a little bit more ahead of the story. It's said that the policeies
Starting point is 00:43:43 that entered to this house, many of them and literally vomited out, because not supported two things. The first, the edore that
Starting point is 00:43:56 this house, for the restos biologics that had. And the second, not supported that impression of encounter with all this type
Starting point is 00:44:05 of things that Ed Gain had had, like a kind of a sort of a macabre collection. Let's
Starting point is 00:44:11 I'm going to talk about who was Ed Gain and how is that he went to this?
Starting point is 00:44:19 Edward Gain was he was he was he was in the condo of the cross. This is
Starting point is 00:44:26 in Wisconsin in States, his father was George Gain and unfortunately his father
Starting point is 00:44:33 had problems with the alcohol. They had a tinder in that then a tent of comestibles. Her mother was Augusta Lirk.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Her mother was a woman very religious was a luterana and he had much to the ira
Starting point is 00:44:50 of God. Augusta considerable in that the cross, this city where they were a
Starting point is 00:44:57 city a city full of perdition and of vices but also
Starting point is 00:45:02 also to their children to commit the a a modem and Gomorra no?
Starting point is 00:45:08 So it was a city normal for us it was a city normal for August Lirk and
Starting point is 00:45:14 his fanatism and his fanatism was a city a city full of so
Starting point is 00:45:19 then she she she has a little to the cross because he said
Starting point is 00:45:25 here they're going to pervertit here not not to have
Starting point is 00:45:29 opportunity to redimers with God because she also
Starting point is 00:45:32 was a fervient crevente of the apocalypse she she had
Starting point is 00:45:39 firmly that the apocalypse in some moment going to happen to happen in a moment
Starting point is 00:45:45 of the time that she was obliging his kids all the days
Starting point is 00:45:51 they had to learn the every those days they had to learn a
Starting point is 00:45:55 a verseical a a chapter of entire. So she
Starting point is 00:46:00 she not she didn't too in the amistat not I don't think
Starting point is 00:46:02 that his kids could have friends, not I'm
Starting point is 00:46:06 that could could convivir in the school and much less let's
Starting point is 00:46:10 let's get in contact with the little normal you know they're
Starting point is 00:46:15 having to be in contactos with kids young to live to
Starting point is 00:46:19 live and she not she she she she was
Starting point is 00:46:23 prohibit terminantly to have people people or people
Starting point is 00:46:27 particularly I remember I don't you interrupt a
Starting point is 00:46:30 part a fea, where I used her faith to mention that the women were bad, no? I mean, we're saying, we're, we're
Starting point is 00:46:41 we're, we're, we're, the woman, took the fruit prohibited, and, I mean, mentioned about that the woman was that he said to fall to the woman. She, she
Starting point is 00:46:51 said that the women were going to make to their children in some moment. So, his father, practically no pinted
Starting point is 00:46:59 in this story. Okay. It was a person that was manipulable for part of Augusta if in some moments
Starting point is 00:47:06 he had some some rascals but were very very leves really who said what was was the mom
Starting point is 00:47:14 for the for the family in the year of 1940 falle the father of Edgain
Starting point is 00:47:21 and getting then only a family composed by Augusta for Ed and for his
Starting point is 00:47:27 brother for Ed and for this moment precisely for these ideas that had
Starting point is 00:47:32 the mother said the cross not is the place for my kids mudemones
Starting point is 00:47:36 to a place that's more more and alhated of all
Starting point is 00:47:41 this bullysio of the society it's in that they
Starting point is 00:47:46 move to the plenfield also located in in in
Starting point is 00:47:51 Playfin Plinfield is where is where where occur all this
Starting point is 00:47:56 that all this of the car they They used to buy in a house in Plainfield and that had various hectares to his
Starting point is 00:48:03 around because also he dedicated to some moment to the sienbra to sell a product, they were in a small
Starting point is 00:48:09 a little time. Before to continue, it's important to know that Ed Gain had a
Starting point is 00:48:16 great fixation of Edipo with his mother. For who know what is this he was
Starting point is 00:48:22 ligated or enamorated to some romantic to the image of his mother. The
Starting point is 00:48:30 idealized her but the mother not was totally reciprocroped with this
Starting point is 00:48:36 sentiment. It's know of fountes or documents extra-official that in some
Starting point is 00:48:41 moment could have had had been a another relation more
Starting point is 00:48:45 of the father but but in the documents official in the
Starting point is 00:48:50 declarations no this put this but what is what is what
Starting point is 00:48:53 is the really really was that when the father
Starting point is 00:48:57 of Ed they're in Plainfield one once that his father was out of
Starting point is 00:49:02 the jugator the papa died of because he was born because he's he was the alcoholism
Starting point is 00:49:10 that he he'd be like free that and he and he to idolatrar every
Starting point is 00:49:16 more to his mother his his brother his he does and he in
Starting point is 00:49:20 some moment he said Ed two two things one what you
Starting point is 00:49:25 what you're doing not not well. What you're doing with our mother, no is it. And two, our mother
Starting point is 00:49:33 has been practically with the eyes taped all these years. Let us gethouns here. Vivable the life. Seams felices.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Dehemosla, that she termines her life as she but you we're just we're young we're not
Starting point is 00:49:47 we're going let us. We're going to our lives. Ed's he's kept thinking
Starting point is 00:49:53 and he says, could be passing some a few days after
Starting point is 00:49:59 after this commentary and in a time in a time they were
Starting point is 00:50:07 that was there was Ed and was Henry and there was
Starting point is 00:50:12 a incident and yet and yet he's out and he's
Starting point is 00:50:16 getting saying his mother not could help obviously
Starting point is 00:50:21 was in the for this also was a this year, this
Starting point is 00:50:26 get the bombers, get to the help and they're asking to what your brother,
Starting point is 00:50:33 where is Henry? Like if he first he said, no see, he per die into the
Starting point is 00:50:38 incident and then then he was he was he was directly to the point where
Starting point is 00:50:42 was Henry. There the first suspect was how you know you're exactly
Starting point is 00:50:46 where was imagine that Plainfield was a community that
Starting point is 00:50:53 had in an of 700 people and they'd have muchimous decades without that's a crime of this naturalness. This means
Starting point is 00:51:02 that the people are in charge of the justice not had the experience to do this type of investigations because not occurred crimines
Starting point is 00:51:11 in Plainfield. It was a city a moulerina but tranquilla. Nothing of what this lady has mentioned
Starting point is 00:51:18 No, nothing, exactly. And then when they get the authorities not it's not it
Starting point is 00:51:25 knows it is to know that he's the forency that the case he's
Starting point is 00:51:30 he had various gulfes but not Ila what was what was what happened
Starting point is 00:51:38 that evidently Ed Gain attack to his first to the rebate
Starting point is 00:51:42 the life and then he's he in the maisal to
Starting point is 00:51:46 disacerns to disacerns of the evidence but these
Starting point is 00:51:49 policies and these foreens inexpertos not detects that connection that obvious, so clear, that that's not
Starting point is 00:51:58 that's been an accident. It's not they're going to and they're going to be one of the first that he
Starting point is 00:52:06 he has done he has a rienda suelt to continue doing what he'd do you're but the
Starting point is 00:52:13 destiny he had prepared a surprise Edgain the 29 of December of that same year the
Starting point is 00:52:20 mom of Edgain Pyrde the life. Pyrne the life of a natural.
Starting point is 00:52:24 He gave apoplegia that's a pardisement of the heart. Pyrte the life and
Starting point is 00:52:31 Edgain for first time in his life, he's only totally
Starting point is 00:52:36 only. Solo. Solo in the without anybody absolutely nobody that he
Starting point is 00:52:41 he's but more than that that he he's that he and it's here
Starting point is 00:52:47 in this part of the history where it's really the terrorific. Ed
Starting point is 00:52:52 starts some consulal, something that is a mother, something that that he
Starting point is 00:52:59 help to record her is so that appears in the first victim of Edgain
Starting point is 00:53:05 called Mary Hogan. Mary Hogan was a bar. He always went to bar,
Starting point is 00:53:12 he had to sit in the corner in the corner and from there he was all the
Starting point is 00:53:17 time. the other people who assisted at the bar they'd had been that Ed
Starting point is 00:53:23 had an obsession for Merri Hogan you know what's those are the characteristics of Mary Hogan
Starting point is 00:53:27 was great was robust had a a character a very and was his mother
Starting point is 00:53:33 he was his mom he he was and he he was all the time in
Starting point is 00:53:39 some he was he was he did he he no he was he only
Starting point is 00:53:45 he only he only observed from from the corner the back.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Passed the time, and one the 8th December of 154, Edgain decided to go
Starting point is 00:53:59 to the tavern to Merri Hogan the most time. He was to
Starting point is 00:54:03 start and he said he said, for favor let me enter, and
Starting point is 00:54:06 just I want a he was a arm and he decided to use
Starting point is 00:54:12 and he to get the life to Mary Hogan. No he he left there. She's a
Starting point is 00:54:18 he has a house, she's a little bit of his car. No, he's up more of Mary Hogan, the police did an investigation. Al, a woman that was a part
Starting point is 00:54:28 immigrant, no had a family in Plainfield, no there who had who would be able to an investigation. They'd
Starting point is 00:54:38 pass this event. Some people for the character strong of Mary Hogan, they said, a more, he nojou
Starting point is 00:54:43 with someone and they they've got and they did it and they're a major the mafia
Starting point is 00:54:48 of the moment like it's could have intervened in a way and get to get her the life
Starting point is 00:54:55 the reality was another simply disappeared no there no there there no
Starting point is 00:55:00 there's no it's up in some this is very macabro the people
Starting point is 00:55:06 know that the people was retrained was retrayed that was that rare that sometimes his
Starting point is 00:55:12 comments were a little out of the place, but they were like that
Starting point is 00:55:15 a person a person rara, no there's a person that was a person
Starting point is 00:55:22 that was a man who was in he he said he said he
Starting point is 00:55:27 he said he he if you you've had had had
Starting point is 00:55:32 had been the power today she she would she
Starting point is 00:55:36 would be and if you had to make
Starting point is 00:55:39 to Mary Hogan maybe maybe he said, and he said, it's a disappeared. It's in my
Starting point is 00:55:49 camera. But as it's a character that's strange, so rarrow, Elmo only solto the carcashada
Starting point is 00:55:57 and said, you're going to start with your bromas and yet he's going to read and she went.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Imagineate, not declare a, a, a, crime in that moment? It was
Starting point is 00:56:07 so natural. Yeah. But nobody he knew. Nobody put well, Elmo, that was
Starting point is 00:56:12 the your attention. After here, that's about the story? It's
Starting point is 00:56:17 a bit interesting. You know, I think to understand a little how it's that's
Starting point is 00:56:23 that attraction of Ed by part of her mother, imagineate that you say,
Starting point is 00:56:28 well, all the people, are all the people, but you do you think?
Starting point is 00:56:34 That's the only way? She's the only good. It's the one. So, you know, so, you
Starting point is 00:56:39 go to the isolation, the Creser Lejos of all, that's
Starting point is 00:56:43 satanice in all. I mean, it's a thing a lot quite.
Starting point is 00:56:48 It's a fact, but also, like, for example, if you
Starting point is 00:56:51 do you say, you know, she a woman, that's a woman, that's
Starting point is 00:56:56 an obsession, and right that's an obsession, and of a encounter someone,
Starting point is 00:57:01 he, he's, he, going to try to try to know, so it
Starting point is 00:57:05 was, and, it was that was a person a very retraided no no
Starting point is 00:57:11 it's a easy to and particularly a woman with a form of a form of a whole of
Starting point is 00:57:20 his infancy he was totally isolated of the women the only image that he
Starting point is 00:57:25 had was precisely the mother for that he dolatrava so he was enamored
Starting point is 00:57:30 to her she was she was he was he could be the court of her part of the
Starting point is 00:57:34 mother like a part of a pucro intact just as my mother he was just like my mother
Starting point is 00:57:41 more than she was other image of a woman, after a new chick, after a year, and a adolescence of isolation, was impenable. Because for this moment
Starting point is 00:57:52 of the history, yeah, I'm saying, that Ed, yeah, not an adolescent, yeah, it was a woman,
Starting point is 00:57:58 and was a person adult, yeah, they were, years of isolation. No, he had another image.
Starting point is 00:58:04 In who's was going to concentrate? In his mother. And when had the intention to be able to
Starting point is 00:58:08 get someone more no he was he was the only the only
Starting point is 00:58:14 way to conserve those people that he was not they were
Starting point is 00:58:19 to get and they're going to pass the time in
Starting point is 00:58:26 playingfield there there a year that was the year
Starting point is 00:58:30 that this time remember remember that were a little
Starting point is 00:58:33 people very small. 700 people, 800 put it. It was a
Starting point is 00:58:38 little all of the people who were in all of all they're going to the time.
Starting point is 00:58:45 What is the time of a time? It's a time a day of a year in
Starting point is 00:58:48 specific where all of the people allian all all
Starting point is 00:58:54 they were all. They went to the time and their serbos with his
Starting point is 00:58:59 serbos with their places for This means that all the barons and they went to house
Starting point is 00:59:06 except one. Ed gain. Ed. In that moment there was a special of a paleria
Starting point is 00:59:16 of the in the people. It's the 15th of November when this of the
Starting point is 00:59:22 year 1957 when Ed he's to get to this plaperia
Starting point is 00:59:27 where the dependient was Berenice Warden and a day before he says
Starting point is 00:59:34 I'm going to 5 litters of anti-congelant for his car and things and he says I'm going and I'm
Starting point is 00:59:43 you prepare for favor and Berenice he says okay time back Berenice
Starting point is 00:59:49 he had told to one of his his that he had been he had he said
Starting point is 00:59:54 you know I'm he said you know I'm because she never he asks
Starting point is 01:00:00 the question the price of the things, I observe very
Starting point is 01:00:02 extra and he's but not but not only is that. He's he discovered
Starting point is 01:00:10 to Aet the other side of the other side observantly while I
Starting point is 01:00:16 do my my labors me do that he's he could say it
Starting point is 01:00:22 doesn't say it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't he
Starting point is 01:00:25 said mom no you don't you don't you extrano of the people. You know
Starting point is 01:00:31 you know he has done to do that you know it's strange no you do you know and the
Starting point is 01:00:35 man very inquietas always he said he did much fear. For favor when
Starting point is 01:00:40 you see you don't me just with her with him and he really
Starting point is 01:00:46 he's getting the other other side at the banquette observantly I've discovered
Starting point is 01:00:51 in many occasions doing this because that time a day before the day
Starting point is 01:00:56 of the day of the day Pied that material that needed At the day next when
Starting point is 01:01:02 all the men had gone almost like a movie of a
Starting point is 01:01:06 point to start his business when a when a man
Starting point is 01:01:11 deto the door the I'm I'm I'm okay
Starting point is 01:01:17 pass he entered to the establishment he closed
Starting point is 01:01:21 the door and and she she she he
Starting point is 01:01:23 had had had been a before. Edgain he went to and he said how cost to
Starting point is 01:01:30 that rifle? I think I want to change my caliber 20 for something more new. Verenis he'll
Starting point is 01:01:36 try to back the arm and when he'll turn to give her at gain he was he was
Starting point is 01:01:43 he was he was he. This he told he, for if they had
Starting point is 01:01:49 the doubt in his declarations he and he he Yeah, here
Starting point is 01:01:56 committed various errors. Recordem that Gain not only was a serial.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Ed Gain was was a and not had a control like it has a
Starting point is 01:02:08 Ted Bundy or how it has a fred Dammar that are frios
Starting point is 01:02:13 calculators and very exact with what they're doing. He no, he only
Starting point is 01:02:19 he only saw his instincts. This is what is what conge that could
Starting point is 01:02:23 commit errors in the process of the things that horrible that he had left a co-sueltos yes because no he
Starting point is 01:02:29 not he not was conscious of what he was doing repito not was a ted bond or any
Starting point is 01:02:36 any one of these any of these any these and he he was and at
Starting point is 01:02:43 regressar he comes he's first in the caronetta of this senior of bernice
Starting point is 01:02:47 warden she he was a point in the carter where he had
Starting point is 01:02:51 he had he had the camioneta there and then then she's up to her car and then she'll have to the granj. But one person
Starting point is 01:03:01 saw that the camioneta passed but without her can't get the figure of a man. It was a person of a gasolinerer. When
Starting point is 01:03:09 regress all the men of the house, the son of Verenis Warden, one of the
Starting point is 01:03:15 employees of the gasolinerer he says, oh yeah, and he said, and he said, yes,
Starting point is 01:03:19 because I did pass to your mom in the camioneta. Well, See the carmionette to your mother Passed, I saw the figure of another person
Starting point is 01:03:26 And me kept a doubt if all is all right And this And this chico he says Yeah, it's never to have been to have gone In that moment the chico Corre and the only that he finds is a chark
Starting point is 01:03:38 of liquid emmatic in the Pissue. This liquid So, it wascured and it were that Arrastrarone or to someone To the part Trasera of the stationationationationation
Starting point is 01:03:48 To find that the The child Inmediately Entre in Panicco Yeah, call the
Starting point is 01:03:55 Policies but Dentro of the panic that he had Revisa the notes
Starting point is 01:04:00 The last person that Pidue was Edgain He he no he was
Starting point is 01:04:07 He was he was he was he was he was he was the rarer he was the
Starting point is 01:04:13 he was he was he's he's he's he said okay okay
Starting point is 01:04:19 Okay, Tranquilo, we'll to investigate where this person. Ed Gain, that time,
Starting point is 01:04:26 had arrived to his house, he went to Berenice in his house, and some
Starting point is 01:04:31 people of a house nearer, he invited to dinner. I was a house
Starting point is 01:04:38 of these people, when he got to the policeia, they're first to Ed
Starting point is 01:04:43 and they don't have nobody, and this person and the The only friends
Starting point is 01:04:49 that have been is this family let us we're going to get to see that
Starting point is 01:04:52 they're going to get to the police to get to the family they're saying
Starting point is 01:04:57 they're that they need to they're committed a crime in Plainfield and he's
Starting point is 01:05:04 the he's the principal suspect and he says we're you think
Starting point is 01:05:08 you think it's all he's he's he's okay Edgain
Starting point is 01:05:12 says let's let's we're we're we're they're they're
Starting point is 01:05:18 they're they've Do you remember in the first scene that I described when the police entered to the house, what I omitie is that behind of them was Edgain.
Starting point is 01:05:28 It was they've been with him. It was they've with them. No, I'm going to make to say the description that I said at the principle, because it's too hard,
Starting point is 01:05:37 but all these elements biologics that they were converted in moveles was what he did Edgain with his victims.
Starting point is 01:05:46 More to have found this, part very important a proposite
Starting point is 01:05:52 at the question the body of his victim Bernice Warden
Starting point is 01:05:56 he gave that same time and when the police
Starting point is 01:05:59 entered what was the the body was that
Starting point is 01:06:03 was was was was a back back uh
Starting point is 01:06:08 at he no had had didn't have in
Starting point is 01:06:12 permitting to pass to his he he not
Starting point is 01:06:14 was he was not The gravity. The gravity of those... Of course. ...of.
Starting point is 01:06:22 It was really aterrador to the scene. The policians, as can, they recuperan, he's repressan, and they're they're getting.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Muches in shock. Policies with experience of 10, 20 years were in shock. No, they didn't,
Starting point is 01:06:40 not concivian what they were doing. Oh, that's great. It was a scene really dantska. They're they're going to
Starting point is 01:06:47 Ed Gain, and he said that was 30 hours in silence, without a single word, looking fiefingly to the policeies, to the eyes,
Starting point is 01:06:58 without saying any one a single word, while he was accused of all what they had been found in
Starting point is 01:07:03 his house. The only way that they made that he started to talk, was when
Starting point is 01:07:09 he said, we're going to put to the body of Berenice Warden. That's
Starting point is 01:07:14 no he did fear, it's the aligia. They're the policians
Starting point is 01:07:19 provocard for that he could confess what he had done. Only when
Starting point is 01:07:24 they're front to the victim yet is that Edgain starts
Starting point is 01:07:30 to to what he did. I'm to tell the last part
Starting point is 01:07:37 of the story that is the most but before if
Starting point is 01:07:40 you have any any any any a part
Starting point is 01:07:44 that you you're going to tell my man I want to mention that
Starting point is 01:07:46 good that you do this pause because it's the part the part
Starting point is 01:07:50 more tetic of this case I mean if you know I'm trying
Starting point is 01:07:55 to mention something something that is that they found that things
Starting point is 01:08:00 objects suit ture basos siles lamp vows of
Starting point is 01:08:05 the people what this person what this person did in this that
Starting point is 01:08:12 you God, my. It's something very, very, we're going to this scene.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Uh, for favor put us the lights because what we're to say, Fermex.
Starting point is 01:08:27 And a part of here, we're going to start, well, we're going to think that
Starting point is 01:08:32 pincher relampago. We'll go on us with a very turbio. Yeah we're here. Uh,
Starting point is 01:08:37 let me, we're we're in the part final of the history. Genial. But
Starting point is 01:08:42 me It seems that the confessions that makes Ed Gain in the part final of this story are the most the most of the police. Sure. A Edgain, as we call to the policeia,
Starting point is 01:08:54 literally enter in to his house, they're all this disaster that he, let me this disaster biological. Yeah. Yenno of
Starting point is 01:09:01 things there. So, they've been, as I've talked about, he's a 30 hours without a single word, looking to the
Starting point is 01:09:09 policeies fichament, simply waiting. When they puten in front of his ultimate of Vernees
Starting point is 01:09:14 Warden is in the moment in the moment in the Ed sonrere and
Starting point is 01:09:18 decide to make they're they're asking but before of this
Starting point is 01:09:24 also also it was a a evaluation psychological the
Starting point is 01:09:30 people who evaluated they were diagnosed with schizophrenia
Starting point is 01:09:34 and a person propens to suffer hallucinations even
Starting point is 01:09:39 even Edgain was led to a juice for the crimes that
Starting point is 01:09:44 he had committed. For this moment the forenses just were
Starting point is 01:09:48 in the house of Edgain because someone had to
Starting point is 01:09:52 do a because they were because is the why. Because the judge
Starting point is 01:10:13 determined that one a person with schizophrenia specifically not sano
Starting point is 01:10:20 of his faculties not could be in that moment the the
Starting point is 01:10:24 laws the and they were but they're they're
Starting point is 01:10:28 asking to get and they say okay how how's victims
Starting point is 01:10:33 how people let's let's let he he said three
Starting point is 01:10:38 a who to my brother, to Berenice Worden, and the other
Starting point is 01:10:46 the other that said again, okay, three people but it's a little, something, something something
Starting point is 01:10:54 are not sufficient to do what you did you in your house, no there's many, there
Starting point is 01:11:01 many, and for tapisar so, no? So, what did what did you,
Starting point is 01:11:06 where are the other people? And he said, I just just did the
Starting point is 01:11:09 life with my hands to three persons. And the other? And is where confies to the first part of the most terrorifico. Edgain Comprava the diary of Plainfield all the days. And he, anteriorly, no see if, remember, no see if now is it still still, but in the diaries, in the periodicals,
Starting point is 01:11:29 it was on the obituaries, it was who had fallen in that day, and he put a message for part of the family to advise to the people that couldieran assistive to the funeral of that person that had perished. He leighed
Starting point is 01:11:42 these obituaries and decided for who he was to go in the night to the cemetery. He was
Starting point is 01:11:50 immediately because he needed to that this person was a fresh to do that he needed
Starting point is 01:11:57 to do that he had to do you to get a certain people, I was specifically to
Starting point is 01:12:03 women. He had a fixation with the women for all this that had
Starting point is 01:12:07 suffered in and what what happened with his mother.
Starting point is 01:12:11 It said that did the exumation of decen
Starting point is 01:12:15 and decen of the house was that was
Starting point is 01:12:19 tapis to piece to these rest not only
Starting point is 01:12:25 had been one he had cut the three
Starting point is 01:12:27 but had exhumated a amount of a person
Starting point is 01:12:30 but what did so what did this lamp
Starting point is 01:12:36 and these objects that were really terrorifices. He confessed
Starting point is 01:12:41 that in some moment of his life, he, cotiz he,
Starting point is 01:12:48 he did informes about if he could do a change in him.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Okay. In that moment, in that part, in that point of the story
Starting point is 01:12:59 was caro, it was not was a perfectionated those operations
Starting point is 01:13:06 like it are that are normal. It's okay. He lo cotized
Starting point is 01:13:11 he he was he did he he was with the rest of these
Starting point is 01:13:16 people he constructs uh corsets constructs and and
Starting point is 01:13:25 constructs and other things that I can mentioner here
Starting point is 01:13:30 during the nights most obscured the while all
Starting point is 01:13:34 the people were he put music in his
Starting point is 01:13:37 house, imagine some music of the years 50, 60s that he was about
Starting point is 01:13:42 and he bestia his own his own these these robes that he
Starting point is 01:13:50 he was he was put the corsets and the mask the maskas of
Starting point is 01:13:55 the other elements a little more more intimus and
Starting point is 01:14:00 in a bale macabro during the night he had in
Starting point is 01:14:04 his house playing, abasantly to see himself, and to what for
Starting point is 01:14:09 him was what more desire to be a woman. With those masks
Starting point is 01:14:15 as we in the illustration, more terrorifico still. He said, the policians
Starting point is 01:14:24 were horrized for this that he had confessed the judge finally
Starting point is 01:14:31 after the first of the first of the first audience he said, no we can
Starting point is 01:14:35 injuiceer. It's too very bad. Mandem it some months to a hospital psychiatric and
Starting point is 01:14:41 we'll be able if a treatment can try it to tryer to the reality,
Starting point is 01:14:44 even for an instant for to be just got he went he went
Starting point is 01:14:49 he was he was he did a second audience and the judge determined that
Starting point is 01:14:55 definitely Ed had had to pass the rest of his
Starting point is 01:15:00 days interned in an hospital psychiatric Ed Gain never
Starting point is 01:15:04 took a prison state or any one any person any person whatever that's
Starting point is 01:15:09 out of a hospital psychiatric for the rest for the rest of the
Starting point is 01:15:14 day. The house only just like a data the
Starting point is 01:15:18 the 30 of the same year was to be
Starting point is 01:15:20 to the people that people were around the
Starting point is 01:15:26 house someone of one of one of one one of house with gasoline and
Starting point is 01:15:31 the chemo. The citizens of Plainfield no support to see that house there. Imagine the fire.
Starting point is 01:15:37 The were. They decised of her. Some person with an fan of to damage to
Starting point is 01:15:42 do you, in the hospital psychiatric, one of the medical, one of the other of the
Starting point is 01:15:46 people, you know, you know, you said, you did you didn't nothing of
Starting point is 01:15:51 her. Ed Gain said, they said he said, he said, he said, no,
Starting point is 01:15:56 he caused nothing. you think to this point that the history of Ed Gain termino I think
Starting point is 01:16:07 no or something something something was reclued in an hospital psychiatric he lived
Starting point is 01:16:15 the rest of his life in total tranquillity who who were those doctors
Starting point is 01:16:21 said that they were tranquil he took the sun leah a little was in
Starting point is 01:16:27 the looking to outside he was a person tranquilla and never never
Starting point is 01:16:31 took a discussion with another not a violent but a night
Starting point is 01:16:37 in the hospital psychiatric were some those grits those
Starting point is 01:16:42 those were from a woman that said had
Starting point is 01:16:45 had between 75 and 80 years the the
Starting point is 01:16:49 gritos so they heard in all the the
Starting point is 01:16:53 medical the psychiatr all all were all quarter of this
Starting point is 01:16:58 senior unfortunately she yeah I don't have been but at the
Starting point is 01:17:02 other there there was a person I'm to have to be to
Starting point is 01:17:06 say the the she never had this part and this
Starting point is 01:17:14 part and who was on the he was he and he
Starting point is 01:17:18 had in his hands those the medicos hororis those
Starting point is 01:17:22 not knew they asked and asked why it? Why did you
Starting point is 01:17:29 did you? This person he went to and he said, it's an homage for Ed. No it was Ed Gain. It was another infirm mental of the
Starting point is 01:17:41 same psychiatric that admired the work, as he was he called, of Edgain and he did this atrocity to offer to give us to Ed. When Ed's
Starting point is 01:17:53 he entered, he didn't even he muto. Simply he let's go pass. Ed passed the rest of his days in this hospital psychiatric and
Starting point is 01:18:02 muriel for causes natural years after. Yeah, practically moved to behees. There are various films that inspired
Starting point is 01:18:11 Ed Gain. The principal is this that I said of the massacre in Texas, that the personage principal
Starting point is 01:18:17 is this that we've seen that's Leatherface. Also, also inspired part of the movie psychosis
Starting point is 01:18:23 of Alfred Hitchcock and also inspired in grand measure the silence of the innocents
Starting point is 01:18:28 that was set in 1999 only were inspired. As
Starting point is 01:18:34 the last data Ed Gain when he when we're of a paro
Starting point is 01:18:37 cardiac to the 77 years the the medical decided
Starting point is 01:18:42 enter in Plainfield at side of his her
Starting point is 01:18:47 and called Madre Augusta Juntus for always one
Starting point is 01:18:53 more more. Oh, what story so much scalofriante. I'm not
Starting point is 01:19:02 no, no I've liked that us have unquested. Definitely it's a case that
Starting point is 01:19:05 I'm trying the way. The car of Mariana is that it's that it's a I'm not
Starting point is 01:19:12 because I mean what I do more more courage is like never it never it
Starting point is 01:19:16 was I'm but it's but no pager but not but no pago
Starting point is 01:19:21 because you're in a a place where they're trying well, they're in
Starting point is 01:19:25 so I'm in the way I'm going to like he got a lot. And that's to me me can't
Starting point is 01:19:30 well. And, and more to do you know, he's a lot of the mother.
Starting point is 01:19:35 I mean, I mean, that's, that's, that they he'd have done the castigue,
Starting point is 01:19:40 it's like, nah, you know, we're, we're trying to get him and we're to be
Starting point is 01:19:47 a matter to have been to be a man, so, a premium. A premium.
Starting point is 01:19:50 A, that no was a No, decho, no, I mean,
Starting point is 01:19:53 I didn't even even the psychiatric. The things that he did were too
Starting point is 01:19:57 were too cruel and macabras like that for that. But, but, a me
Starting point is 01:20:03 what I really is, all the history. All the story. It's
Starting point is 01:20:07 to be, imagine a little, he not took the need to to send
Starting point is 01:20:11 to the other world to more people, because, you say, said to say,
Starting point is 01:20:16 the Marianita to the pen is boden. Is that I want a
Starting point is 01:20:21 commentio. I know that Mariana supported much the story I know very well to Mariana and the celo sensible that is with this
Starting point is 01:20:28 type of stories and he's an effort monumental agarandos in the while he said
Starting point is 01:20:35 he left the shoes marked no no poor my my
Starting point is 01:20:39 my my man is suffering I I was I was
Starting point is 01:20:42 I was that this person so could have had been a he could
Starting point is 01:20:46 have had had had been a great list of
Starting point is 01:20:49 but no he because because he had the necessity to do. I mean, because he had
Starting point is 01:20:54 all the he had profaning the stumbas. But if not had had the opportunity,
Starting point is 01:21:00 if he was to be to get to to cast a person. But it is a rarro. Why?
Starting point is 01:21:07 Why not continue in him? How is that a person that was that he was that again
Starting point is 01:21:12 was like that game was like to be like to- I-t-t-top- I-ha-ha-ha-ha- how did-tet-top-
Starting point is 01:21:18 but how was be able to say a person that was a person who didn't even could have done something and the game never did so. It's that, look that in that world criminal
Starting point is 01:21:31 or call it to some way, all these people that, unfortunately, is a little bit more than an icon for persons that are like they, that this is something good, these criminals,
Starting point is 01:21:42 these criminals, these criminals in their world, always are imitators, imitators of Edgain, imitators of Ted Bondi, imitators of,
Starting point is 01:21:52 ohles, even, much o'rejas. Of that I want to mention to mention to a little, no,
Starting point is 01:21:57 so, only it's only they're one one way, in my can't, I mean,
Starting point is 01:22:03 and a episode, he said, I was, I'm in the penal of the topochico.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Okay. A person that was there, and I didn't, and I didn't exist
Starting point is 01:22:14 this institution, two, he, he, active. He was, he formed
Starting point is 01:22:22 part of a group delictive, let me let's the ultimate letter. Okay. And he
Starting point is 01:22:27 was in this Penal of Topo Chico. He mentioned that for the people that hear this, because there are
Starting point is 01:22:35 various testimonials of the Penal of Carre Deita, of the Topo Chico, and so were places
Starting point is 01:22:40 that were controlled for the mania 100. There was a occasion where in this penal
Starting point is 01:22:48 of the topo chico there was the leader that was the but ingresan
Starting point is 01:22:56 to a leader also of the same group and they're there. As
Starting point is 01:23:01 the two leaders and then each one had this part of the ego to say
Starting point is 01:23:08 I don't I'm going to be to be to you is my territory you
Starting point is 01:23:13 you are you do you do you do you always there's there
Starting point is 01:23:17 roces between colleagues because they were in the same side. So,
Starting point is 01:23:22 each one had like sub-a- no, I'm I'm going with this I'm
Starting point is 01:23:26 with the commandant's no, I'm with the other and in some
Starting point is 01:23:29 there were roces, roces, and in a moment that they explode and in one night
Starting point is 01:23:35 it's a massacry so brutal in the penal so in the against all, all,
Starting point is 01:23:45 and they're they're they're going to and this and the other. A commentario extra of this that he mentioned about, that is that there was a person
Starting point is 01:23:51 that was like a person like a person like infirm that came about and he gozable to all this but that had a trage like that was a and the people and he simply
Starting point is 01:24:04 simply was displaceable. Well, this is a commentary extra because the people always asked at the final that happened all this that there were 70-and-tantos
Starting point is 01:24:13 and who were he, who never knew who were he? The people, says that we thought we're the chumco.
Starting point is 01:24:21 But that's not the part that I'm going to tell. The part that I'm that I'm
Starting point is 01:24:24 that there's that there's that there's not so it was like part of the penal, the part of the
Starting point is 01:24:32 psychiatric where there a cabron imagine a man, a man, a man of that,
Starting point is 01:24:40 I do you do I idealize like Michael Myers, grand, okay, yeah,
Starting point is 01:24:46 maduro, yeah, that they they called the sigis. The what? SIGis.
Starting point is 01:24:52 This this chabron was so temido for the groups delictives
Starting point is 01:25:00 that no they were they were in the when he was to get to the penal or where
Starting point is 01:25:06 were the other reos, imagine everybody they all they know the
Starting point is 01:25:10 rudiment and the rudos that were those of the last they were
Starting point is 01:25:16 they temian at the Sigis. When he was he said between
Starting point is 01:25:20 everyone, he got him to get him back, he would be they're up but why? But why?
Starting point is 01:25:25 But why? This this man that we told this said when he was a lot
Starting point is 01:25:32 of osamentas acumulat many people in a one single place, he in a single
Starting point is 01:25:40 and he gets here here and he was like a little in juggeteria. The
Starting point is 01:25:45 the type. Damas we've seen how it's where the lot of the lot of
Starting point is 01:25:52 those mordy some of the mordyas, some of the when we saw we're thinking was going, I was
Starting point is 01:25:58 feeling a collar oh of the made, yeah, it's made of this
Starting point is 01:26:06 actually they're deados. No, I remember if they're deados or they're or they're
Starting point is 01:26:08 so, so this this, this this, this all this is this is the episode
Starting point is 01:26:15 So he's published for approximately two months and I was I'm I'm I'm still I'm
Starting point is 01:26:17 I'm I'm sure the commandant he said keepen it so that it's not it's not
Starting point is 01:26:25 I'm a respect So yeah so he's a so a little of his
Starting point is 01:26:28 story came to a group was a a cereal solito no
Starting point is 01:26:35 the only the only they were they were they're a person that was a
Starting point is 01:26:38 person he had a many years that every that every that was many
Starting point is 01:26:45 people to put, I mean, is that they'd they're in they're they're,
Starting point is 01:26:47 it's the way, they're going to have been to sandas and they're they're in they're
Starting point is 01:26:53 and they're so they're and they're so imagine that the people, they're having a respect
Starting point is 01:27:00 because I don't know, I said, no, no, I said, no, no, so nobody so I was
Starting point is 01:27:04 like, you're, you know, that's the risk, no, that if you you'd get around
Starting point is 01:27:08 you, you're, exactly, exactly, so, so, so, so,
Starting point is 01:27:15 You mentioned this case. Look, Look at the contrary, I think, I think many of those who have seen photos of Edgain, it was a person
Starting point is 01:27:27 that in the promedio, I think I made between 1, 75, 1.80, super delgated, a man, a man. Okay. Normal. No,
Starting point is 01:27:34 no, it has much to be with this image of leather face. It was what most dabbed because in appearance it was a type
Starting point is 01:27:41 normal, retraided, that not you could be done because not he was a grandot and so
Starting point is 01:27:48 it's et cetera it's no this this type I go like how me it's that you
Starting point is 01:27:54 had been people that had been and said they'd they'd they'd they'd
Starting point is 01:27:59 and not immutable I mean so and really I remember so Michael Myers
Starting point is 01:28:04 and how the type he had a force overhumana and he'd he'd
Starting point is 01:28:07 he'd was what was was very too But I think he, he, he's,
Starting point is 01:28:14 he could have auspicated a lot of, so imagineate. And he's, see, is there's still incerate
Starting point is 01:28:19 or yeah no, no, the really, not know, to say, this what I'm
Starting point is 01:28:24 it was, yeah, for the 2013, 2012, probably me probably me was going to
Starting point is 01:28:29 but so much for those years. Well, it's so, so it's still would be
Starting point is 01:28:35 good- to know his history, eh? Well, interesting. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:28:39 because I think, I said, a lot of a lot of things but so, I mean,
Starting point is 01:28:44 so, I mean, so, I mean with a lot of people. We're
Starting point is 01:28:48 going to the returvy, oh, yeah. We're going. We're going to the
Starting point is 01:28:54 time, for favor. Help me for here, Haciel. If you're
Starting point is 01:28:57 there's one of those cases that really me really, I've
Starting point is 01:29:03 seen the movie, I've seen, I don't I don't want to here
Starting point is 01:29:08 those Guarren because, this There, no, we're going to But the case that has to be with Ronald
Starting point is 01:29:18 of Feo, Junior, and the persons that's people in Amityville. Imagine the story is so,
Starting point is 01:29:27 the story is so, so much popular as a person, a child that was Ronald, simply a 13th of November of
Starting point is 01:29:37 1974 in Amityville in the night. While his family was dormying,
Starting point is 01:29:44 the type he took a arm large and decide to go to his family.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Yes, is one of the cases. It's one of the cases that he in that he in that then he was
Starting point is 01:29:59 a 23 years, a young a young not? Demaciod young. He's
Starting point is 01:30:07 got with his parents, that here I have his numbers, that
Starting point is 01:30:11 Ronald Defeo and Luis Defeo, his brothers menors, imagineate, his brothers of 18, 13, and 12 years. Persons that no had nothing to be with the situation of him. But the interesting that occurred, despite of this, is that this house, where,
Starting point is 01:30:33 where, with a rifle, Marlin, a caliber 35, While his family dormier, he decided to send us to the other world.
Starting point is 01:30:45 This house in some point is a epicentro of situations paranormal. I think is
Starting point is 01:30:51 what he did the whole the o'g no, what provoked that many
Starting point is 01:30:56 puttora put in the o'clock in this and they're in the story of
Starting point is 01:31:02 Amityville because after that's the family and here we're we're
Starting point is 01:31:06 in the family Lutz who in Compa, the house, they started to affirm and say
Starting point is 01:31:13 a lot of situations that were in this house, manifestations paranormals, and a
Starting point is 01:31:20 series of situations that, I'll to repeat did an hau to that
Starting point is 01:31:24 this case were so that this world. I'm to ask us
Starting point is 01:31:28 one to you. You think that is a actual what happened
Starting point is 01:31:35 with Ronald Feo? If it was a person that simply desvive a family.
Starting point is 01:31:41 What what's what's what's you think that really really did it?
Starting point is 01:31:47 The family Lutz, I'll repertive to repeat. It's the family that acquire this
Starting point is 01:31:51 house after the after the tragedy some years after. You think is
Starting point is 01:31:57 that I think. I think there's that I'm much of paranormal
Starting point is 01:31:59 in that because first what he did Ronald was
Starting point is 01:32:04 was it crime, and what lived in the family posteriorly, the Lutz, I think it was part of that halo of terror and
Starting point is 01:32:18 of crime that was embered in that house. Until where I knew a little of the story, because I don't know very a fond,
Starting point is 01:32:25 the terrain where that was a place was going to say the classic history of the cemetery, but in this case
Starting point is 01:32:34 was a cemetery of some of a tribe that in some moment had a sentiment in that zone. Okay. And, this, apart it's said that also
Starting point is 01:32:45 was actually a brujeria anteriorly, that had his storyal. His story. So, and when they put in that house there, then, obviously there would have consequences.
Starting point is 01:32:58 And I think the part paranormal and what the Lutz comment, that they started to be posterior to this, I think is real. What do you think What do you?
Starting point is 01:33:08 Fiatte The case I know, I know what what I mean what happened but of a family
Starting point is 01:33:13 posterior the reality is that no, I know, I know I know I don't know
Starting point is 01:33:19 if really really what they said but if there a repetition constant
Starting point is 01:33:25 well so it means that there there was there the cemetery also
Starting point is 01:33:30 but I never knew so I'm never Those who did a
Starting point is 01:33:36 investigation very profound were the Warren. The Warren were there took some some photographs
Starting point is 01:33:42 and they were an investigation there's a particular that's a super popular is false. It's false.
Starting point is 01:33:49 It's a 100% It's a photo that is super comprobo that's false but
Starting point is 01:33:53 is the photo most iconica of that that case but but more
Starting point is 01:33:58 that a photo is false not doesn't say that all the case
Starting point is 01:34:02 that all the The fact, I'm to mention something because no, no
Starting point is 01:34:06 they can pass despercived those Warren, then there are many,
Starting point is 01:34:13 many, many, many ways in how they're that the majority of
Starting point is 01:34:16 those are false investigations. The case, many times
Starting point is 01:34:21 was real, if it occurred, but they're they're protagonism at the
Starting point is 01:34:29 moment of the moment of they're to get part of their carpet
Starting point is 01:34:32 of investigation, but There's a case, I don't know if it was the Amityville or was the case of the family Perron, where, in best to help, or so, and it's scripted, they're not, they're going to get with what I'm saying, busken-en-lo, buskenslo. The family correted to those Warren, because in best of
Starting point is 01:34:49 to help, abrotated more, this, the energies. The energies, paranormal, and they've got to start those, or literally, those, they're going to, those, they're taking. So this case, I mean me It's a lot of The family Lutz,
Starting point is 01:35:05 that is the family that's the family that's in their power after this tragedy of these years, they started to
Starting point is 01:35:13 say, well, all what was all the did this, they're doing this, they're the other, but then
Starting point is 01:35:18 the house that's the other ones that only there's information of the one's more I don't have
Starting point is 01:35:24 the number that already and more dweens they don't report nothing. So, no,
Starting point is 01:35:31 there was a problem paranormal after the Lutz. They used not had nothing. It was something like
Starting point is 01:35:38 what happened many times that a house is a maldita and who who gets to live
Starting point is 01:35:43 there, will have a experience a or if you get to you get to get to
Starting point is 01:35:48 get to and pass the years that that case is a maldita and
Starting point is 01:35:51 something in the case Amitiv the the families that were getting after the Lutz
Starting point is 01:36:00 Yeah, no. No, they were in getting to get to there. No. No. So, this was what we
Starting point is 01:36:07 when we did count, I said, I said, hey, a bit, expect, because if
Starting point is 01:36:12 was a series of benefits for the family of Lutz in their moment. They were they did
Starting point is 01:36:16 a credorers, well, to this part of participations to ask us to ask us, because it was a
Starting point is 01:36:24 novela a few years of what What occurs this? It's a short-metrager
Starting point is 01:36:28 and then they were in what I know they're like they're like they're like they're so there
Starting point is 01:36:34 some people don't know mention that probably they they're supposed the tragedy to convert in a
Starting point is 01:36:42 business in the so why because I think because because no
Starting point is 01:36:45 family posterior to the Lutz he said he said that he lived
Starting point is 01:36:50 something in comparison with the house of the family Perron
Starting point is 01:36:54 that is the that is the For example, we've seen that can rentar and that I am I'm in
Starting point is 01:36:59 the intention to go. It's a despite of what that's there's a lot of the house has
Starting point is 01:37:06 an activity paranormal. Who will be to be. It's a start, it will be able. So it's
Starting point is 01:37:11 a house that no is abatable when you go, I interviewed a person to Raysa Ravelsk
Starting point is 01:37:16 that I'm a salute that was there he was there they made a lot of things a lot of
Starting point is 01:37:22 I said I mean I'm I mentioned that if I said if you pass, if you caiss,
Starting point is 01:37:30 you're lastimates it's my responsibility if I'm my responsibility, if me cargo, if me romp a muscle and it's the
Starting point is 01:37:35 part masturbation if I encounter with spiritus if I am I'm a heartiacal so all
Starting point is 01:37:42 all the responsibility was for all the case is a very interesting in comparison with
Starting point is 01:37:49 Amitiv because where the case Amitiv it's supposed that is a possession of moniag
Starting point is 01:37:54 that is what does that Ronald acabe with his family but not see
Starting point is 01:37:59 up there you know what you're saying? It's that you know it's that put it
Starting point is 01:38:04 difficult in the context. I don't know this type of things that you
Starting point is 01:38:07 but but we that we'd say or we might assume that the first
Starting point is 01:38:13 part of the story that the the that's the thing to
Starting point is 01:38:16 do it could be to be real uh perhaps was a position
Starting point is 01:38:21 specifically about Ronald and then or not? Sure. Or so,
Starting point is 01:38:27 could be. Because yeah the next stages of the history, maybe you don't existier.
Starting point is 01:38:32 But the first could be that's not. Okay. Yeah, because all the one has to
Starting point is 01:38:39 point to the house, and the more more more than more has been to be in this type of
Starting point is 01:38:46 echo. So it's it could be that after the tremendous tragedy, well, if they've
Starting point is 01:38:50 passed a part of a car in the car, but as consequence of that
Starting point is 01:38:54 that act that not he was precisely of the house but it was a
Starting point is 01:38:59 little he he's he's he he's he he's
Starting point is 01:39:04 a house and the like this obsession and possession has to have
Starting point is 01:39:09 more with the person and not with the zone can't it can be
Starting point is 01:39:13 it can you think I think I I consider that I consider
Starting point is 01:39:17 that Ronald committed something he's he did he did he did he took
Starting point is 01:39:22 his power in the moment that he decided, well, to take action
Starting point is 01:39:27 with his hands, like what he did he did, he did, what he did what he
Starting point is 01:39:34 did with the thing with, you know, is impressive too, because, I mean, they mentioned
Starting point is 01:39:38 things, the scene of the new, that I also, is false in the
Starting point is 01:39:43 photography, that in that then imagineate the years, the years, how complicated,
Starting point is 01:39:48 that was, I'm, today, with the technology that there, we know, that the majority of evidences
Starting point is 01:39:53 that are in internet and what I've said many times are falseas can't do, but in that's where the media of communication
Starting point is 01:40:00 was the television and you showed the image of the famous the famous the new phantasm of the case
Starting point is 01:40:05 Amitiv and began to start the people that were inspired that the story and they
Starting point is 01:40:12 caused inspiration to make a particular I think it was the moment adequate
Starting point is 01:40:16 to be to doces definitely because there some the movies are the books, stories
Starting point is 01:40:25 and stories short, I'mitibil is a mark Right. At the day of today Amitibil is
Starting point is 01:40:31 a mark Yeah, not is a place a place inbruched it's a a market
Starting point is 01:40:34 It's a kind of a franchise I think And you do you do that Mariana
Starting point is 01:40:39 nah No I mean is that is that is that is that we know
Starting point is 01:40:45 we're we're with little things for what what
Starting point is 01:40:48 really really happened and we those suspicions and every can make their
Starting point is 01:40:53 own own conclusions. But, I think there's a factor that the person not was
Starting point is 01:40:58 psychologically stable, that this also also also another factor because we know,
Starting point is 01:41:03 a be, a very, when you have you have a problem that a little you know,
Starting point is 01:41:09 the famous the vibration back, that's, depression, that's problems, and you start to tryer
Starting point is 01:41:15 things negative. It could say that this person with the problem that you
Starting point is 01:41:20 had psychologically could have attracted to some entity that simply perjudiced all the question and
Starting point is 01:41:27 was that he was that you have to do any episode in the episode the time? The Amitibin? I'm not
Starting point is 01:41:36 but well I know the story. Okay. It's we'll just that the people never said
Starting point is 01:41:42 that the people never see to the information that they discover their their truth and say that they're not
Starting point is 01:41:47 a criteria many times the people, For example, when we talk the theme of the Warrens, if were very
Starting point is 01:41:52 like, I don't get with what I'm going to get in and investigate and you discover that bad,
Starting point is 01:41:59 saquen your conclusions and I think is the most important. But we go to the other.
Starting point is 01:42:06 It's going to put, well, the theme of Anelis. There is there, so, for
Starting point is 01:42:14 you see, there, there, there, I need, for favor, because that that thing
Starting point is 01:42:19 I'm all the attention. I want to mention a question, and always I've said
Starting point is 01:42:24 something. The people that want to experimenter activity paranormal, I always
Starting point is 01:42:30 I don't think, I know, I know, in a moment, the theme favorite of Jassie.
Starting point is 01:42:38 It's that sometimes it's a time to maintain me serious because I'm
Starting point is 01:42:42 trying because is the theme favorite Jsiel? I think
Starting point is 01:42:46 he He has the most It's the most It's the impact. Ah, is that is that impactant in the story.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Of the really, it's very very strong. And is he has that he has been a time that
Starting point is 01:42:56 when in that episode, we'll talk about that that's so. So, this, in some moment
Starting point is 01:43:03 we're going to listen a little of the grabations of Anelis and the Sanger Christ has power
Starting point is 01:43:11 and they're with this thing. Because this This thing I fascina. I think
Starting point is 01:43:18 it's a thing important because if we talk about a crime should be
Starting point is 01:43:23 there. Because for many people not was a case spiritual.
Starting point is 01:43:27 It was a case of a crime even of the same the same
Starting point is 01:43:32 I don't do I. It's the person. I'm going to hear
Starting point is 01:43:38 the history of your voice but at final I
Starting point is 01:43:42 do a little of my opinion of what I think. A little bit it.
Starting point is 01:43:48 And say, for there, call me a God. It's that really a moment to call to God.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Otter again. Hasiel, I'm Bocco, they're in here. I'm going to learn the
Starting point is 01:44:02 comments. A sometimes I'm going to get to a very serious in a
Starting point is 01:44:04 thing, but the people mention a the Jal Padre Ciel, that's in the
Starting point is 01:44:08 what's in the God, to say the other, how me cause this Risa.
Starting point is 01:44:16 Because, you know. They're saying that I'm nervous. I'm sorry. I'm going to go. Me, I'm going to go. If you're going to, my love. If you want, I'm going to, please. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:25 I feel fresh. No, I'm just so yelling. A ver. Pardon. I want to mention a little. Imagine us to a seniorita of 16 years. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:39 16 years that came of a family very religious uh... I'd rather be to call puritanos where you're saying
Starting point is 01:44:50 at the same time the word of but they're they're saying that all is malo that all is a peccado
Starting point is 01:44:55 a little a man that has this sesgo of creencia uh a person a chica
Starting point is 01:45:01 a person a child who comes in a family apparently normal but that
Starting point is 01:45:06 at the 16 years it's with a series of convulsions, a series of attacks epileptics of the nada started to act
Starting point is 01:45:16 to form very strange. That rostro so innocent that we've seen right in the picture,
Starting point is 01:45:22 practically it's going to be a little to disfigurating for all these attacks
Starting point is 01:45:27 that are having a repercussion in their health, in his physical. I can
Starting point is 01:45:32 put the image of how it's a final. It's a is penalized. I've actually
Starting point is 01:45:38 what I did I'm trying the image that we're going to put it's an image that is a penalized and even if
Starting point is 01:45:45 you look at Google Images is it's abhorosa not you never to put a channel of YouTube
Starting point is 01:45:51 is complicated so that that is the rostro before what what this she's got to have
Starting point is 01:45:58 these attacks epilptical and began to get her to get her to get the medical
Starting point is 01:46:04 they had these questions of studies studies, they got to internar. But in that
Starting point is 01:46:10 moment, the people that saw, is that this not seems a thing medical, this
Starting point is 01:46:17 is more a theme of possession demoniac. She, she was to eat, she debilited
Starting point is 01:46:25 severely, uh, he, he was a, a child a little little bit a little
Starting point is 01:46:32 of the person, but he began to have attitudes very rare. She, what we
Starting point is 01:46:38 told the history is that there were moments where it was that the essence of her myself disappeared and something and something
Starting point is 01:46:49 in her mind she had started to talk and she began to act to form rara the people said that
Starting point is 01:46:56 there had animalitos for example in the quarter where she was ratones she agarrava
Starting point is 01:47:04 with his hands and she them, they'd get to the head
Starting point is 01:47:07 with the mouth, I'm and I'm his, uh, those, uh,
Starting point is 01:47:12 desechos and also he's done a form indescriptible. There's a moment
Starting point is 01:47:19 where the family decided get her to internar but she no I didn't
Starting point is 01:47:26 go. The family was a help a other more medical and the story
Starting point is 01:47:32 us said that in the time that she was deprimed much more
Starting point is 01:47:36 it's it's it's when it's when it's when it's a series
Starting point is 01:47:42 of exorcism that practically in 10 months they were approximately 67
Starting point is 01:47:50 sessions of exorcism in those there are some some evidences of audio that in
Starting point is 01:47:57 a moment we're to hear for favor family we're
Starting point is 01:48:01 we're this this little part because was something
Starting point is 01:48:04 of what he got to capture during the session that's
Starting point is 01:48:09 he did to Annelis Mitchell during these sessions spiritists where
Starting point is 01:48:15 they were that were the chardotters luching to try to try to
Starting point is 01:48:19 let us there, you can put you put it? The hussler the knight
Starting point is 01:48:28 over the other English I get to the war or gets not a
Starting point is 01:48:33 organ No, no, there where the need is. Yeah, for us gives no, no, no, no. No, no. No. No. And for us, there's no, no. No.
Starting point is 01:48:48 No. It's going to out to find. That's a horror. What I go. That's I can't. I see a horrible. I think with that's sufficient. A bit,
Starting point is 01:49:09 what is? Rogelio, he said, he moved the cross and by the cross. And by the other that said something,
Starting point is 01:49:15 it's that we're looking, I'm looking at, I'm going to the and the cross. You, what did, Mariana? Well, is that I heard of a strange.
Starting point is 01:49:27 So, I see that. Look, Dice. Ah, is? It's, it's, he moved
Starting point is 01:49:35 to the purpose, did it? I'll say that's an effect of the production,
Starting point is 01:49:39 chicoes. To start them, to get them. The truth is, it's a reverse,
Starting point is 01:49:44 it's a trick of the production. So, no, no, so I'm espant.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Although, I do mention something, I mean, what I mean, me,
Starting point is 01:49:56 me inspired to do this effect. In one occasion in some of the yamines that we
Starting point is 01:50:01 this this mess was like this part of here was back to me so I don't see it and the
Starting point is 01:50:10 people kept effectively that one of the one of the cruises that was you've been you've been
Starting point is 01:50:15 not for the no no, so so it's so it started to move so
Starting point is 01:50:20 then a part of that moment we said there and the fact me did much fear
Starting point is 01:50:25 because the people me envio the people was So, um, apart you, I said, okay,
Starting point is 01:50:33 we're going to a little bit of the attention in the invitators. And the people, the fact, the truth is that also, in his cases, like, they're saying,
Starting point is 01:50:44 the fact of the production, is a part of the production, is a little bit of the incommodity. The fact, the, the fact, because it's a
Starting point is 01:50:55 haciel, the fact, no, I don't know if he's I go for the end of the
Starting point is 01:51:00 end up say I'm saying he says Hasil encamina to be to move the cross yeah
Starting point is 01:51:06 was reprendient no the fact well the this case as I'm mentioned this is one
Starting point is 01:51:14 of the interesting because well it's a history to be one of the
Starting point is 01:51:18 other of the cases more most there people that mention that this
Starting point is 01:51:23 she really really she had a person that was a not that was a
Starting point is 01:51:27 a crime in what they did with her because it was part of a experimentation religious
Starting point is 01:51:32 the fact to start practicing exorcism in best to look more more
Starting point is 01:51:36 help a medical. Something interesting is that Annelis Mitchell falle
Starting point is 01:51:41 for questions of dysnutrition and dispensation and is how
Starting point is 01:51:47 it's how he a better for here here I'm
Starting point is 01:51:51 the face because fall is that is I don't know, because the truth is that there is my
Starting point is 01:51:59 Cibolas right with the feches. But she felles for those motives. Interesting, she maltreatable her body of a form extraordinary. She was to get to his knees,
Starting point is 01:52:11 atentable against his own body, but the form in how it's a very different, a theme of a denutrition for this who
Starting point is 01:52:20 not had to eatably how he had to do you. Not so you what do you think of this case?
Starting point is 01:52:26 I have a question because, I'm talking a little from the ignorance, I don't know
Starting point is 01:52:30 if there's some any of a problem that that's, that part of the symptoms could be a
Starting point is 01:52:36 thing that's a person that's a person that's to be to damage to that and to
Starting point is 01:52:42 get to his health and his life, to that that's? Possession? Possession?
Starting point is 01:52:49 Well, no. Look, not, no, there's there, there, there are
Starting point is 01:52:54 cases of There are people, and I just about of cases of psychiatricks, persons that work in these
Starting point is 01:53:01 places where the people don't have to actual, I say your performance, I don't is accordia, but
Starting point is 01:53:10 even as it's very strange. There are people that in the nights awi-an, it's incredible. A doctora
Starting point is 01:53:16 that I've introduced is that I had a patient that had to be able to and I started to
Starting point is 01:53:22 was subjected, I started to to fight to be able to get to let's this is the little
Starting point is 01:53:29 that I've encountered I'm thinking there's probably there are cases where there's
Starting point is 01:53:34 happening things like the of her but the strange is the
Starting point is 01:53:38 sensation that you also when you see that the case the case
Starting point is 01:53:43 of the case is for the more strange
Starting point is 01:53:46 because apart of the data that you there other data
Starting point is 01:53:51 that are very inquietant. Example, Annalis Michel during these sessions where
Starting point is 01:53:56 grittable, in some occasions he went to talk about in Latin. What was the explanation of the parents that were
Starting point is 01:54:02 very religious came to Annalis Michel of a family sumament and said in some moment, in
Starting point is 01:54:08 one of the orations of the ideas to the church, could have heard the Latin
Starting point is 01:54:12 and learn to learn. One, two, in some moment of the history,
Starting point is 01:54:17 Analis Michel did more of 800 genuflections. What is this to incarce, parrace,
Starting point is 01:54:23 parrace, with much brusquedat very fertes and it turned to tronating the ligaments
Starting point is 01:54:29 of the right. Who in his sano do you do that's not you do you
Starting point is 01:54:34 want to do before you you know before you did you get used and she did it
Starting point is 01:54:42 and tron the legaments of the rodilla. The context familiar that you contabas
Starting point is 01:54:47 is supermente important because the family was extremely religious The family, the first
Starting point is 01:54:53 that was looking was the approbation to the church to make an exorcism for the religious that were. Like the church in the first instance
Starting point is 01:55:01 was in Ngo, they started to look to see that approbation until they found a surrogate that was called Ernest Rends.
Starting point is 01:55:10 These sacerdotes in the that are they are they're and he says, if it's posseidate we'll make
Starting point is 01:55:15 exorcismos. And to start of that is that the calvario of Annalis Michel to the exorcisms.
Starting point is 01:55:23 So, I don't see, if it was a combination of both things, between the
Starting point is 01:55:29 negligence medical and the negligence of his parents for, for not to make a case with
Starting point is 01:55:38 a question paranormal. I don't know. You do you think that's a problem? I think
Starting point is 01:55:42 is a problem of both. Exactly. I think a combination. There was a combination.
Starting point is 01:55:47 There was a there was a position, but I think that if Annalis would have been attended in
Starting point is 01:55:52 time and form, could have been salvated of these two vertientes of the health because there was a desnutrition
Starting point is 01:55:59 and desidatation and of the possession that I think I existia. Because there are things that you
Starting point is 01:56:04 don't explain. It's that you know, it's that when you listen you know, well I don't see
Starting point is 01:56:10 have seen also, I don't have seen also, audios of liberations reales. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:15 It's a very, but very similar. There one of the Padre Forte that sound
Starting point is 01:56:19 equalito, the two. Exactly. So, here there's many times this time
Starting point is 01:56:24 that we're about this one that's not that's not that's not yet to get in that's
Starting point is 01:56:33 to be able to to be things that are extra to the physical. Now, part of the
Starting point is 01:56:38 symptoms of a position, much has to be another to one, know, to be
Starting point is 01:56:44 one, you know, you know, you know, you know, For example, it could be from the
Starting point is 01:56:49 location of an object to another other idiom that no had a form that
Starting point is 01:56:55 you know, and for more that there's that there's that they're that's that's terrible.
Starting point is 01:57:01 The that can make more more capacity physical of what your
Starting point is 01:57:06 body represent that is another factor super important to
Starting point is 01:57:09 to determine if a person really really is posed so
Starting point is 01:57:15 so I think Analis had these symptoms of a possession, but what
Starting point is 01:57:20 says Fermix, also is very real. Is that, to be, and that's always I've said, when someone is passing for something,
Starting point is 01:57:30 for example, brujeria, possessions, what that one no, no, it can't be a single aspect.
Starting point is 01:57:38 You have to do the famous 360. You have to be it from any place. For example,
Starting point is 01:57:43 if you do you do a job of a drugeria and it's affecting to your health,
Starting point is 01:57:46 effectively. You have to go to doctor, you have to attendetel but if is a work
Starting point is 01:57:52 of a but also you need to get to the job of the because no more
Starting point is 01:57:55 you know you can't you can't but the thing you have to you have to get to
Starting point is 01:58:01 get it. They're put it for say it very bruska could maintain the
Starting point is 01:58:06 live with a position during many years if they had been attended the part
Starting point is 01:58:10 medical and have been had been attending little the part
Starting point is 01:58:14 spiritual I could I think I, have seen you, okay, posseida, but viv.
Starting point is 01:58:20 But viv. And, and looking a solution, and perhaps to the sacerdot, to the exorcist
Starting point is 01:58:25 or a liberator adequate, for that he cut to this question that he had, but live. It's a
Starting point is 01:58:33 case. It's a case. I have the first of the 1. July of 1976 to
Starting point is 01:58:40 the 23 years for desnutrition and desidratation. It's a life. As Fermex,
Starting point is 01:58:48 I personally I think there's a thing that's very adog to the spiritual, but also
Starting point is 01:58:57 they're too the thing of the health, and that's all I'm when the case of my
Starting point is 01:59:02 mother that you know, because they said the damage, yes, the malifix you can't,
Starting point is 01:59:09 but you cause a strago of health, yeah it caused a damage that your
Starting point is 01:59:13 material needs to repair, it has to regenerate, if you have to have to work with medications and this and the other
Starting point is 01:59:18 but if it's atyndes completely for enfocarting that's the problem and it was what what happened there.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Exactly. There's a there's a simple, very simple, very simple that also that really
Starting point is 01:59:33 there really there's a position. Now, the grade of position that has been been able to one very
Starting point is 01:59:40 very, very strong. Not is an entity like of a pass, a spirit in molesto,
Starting point is 01:59:44 no, It was an entity very very strong. If this really was to
Starting point is 01:59:48 have done a force to have passed many things, many phenomena in the house.
Starting point is 01:59:55 If in your house, no is nothing, no so it's not, no
Starting point is 01:59:58 see, nothing, no no, it's not a person, no
Starting point is 02:00:03 is there, and no there's nothing to be. But if there's a demonio
Starting point is 02:00:07 there, and it's happening that position, if it should be to be there to
Starting point is 02:00:10 have effects paranormal and there if I don't have any the menor idea if there's
Starting point is 02:00:15 any type of report that that they've seen there's been some of things or something like
Starting point is 02:00:18 in the house of there's no there's no there's no there yeah there
Starting point is 02:00:22 yeah there had many there things and the temperature came about
Starting point is 02:00:28 that there was a so there there probably there there
Starting point is 02:00:31 there the so the those the sacerdotes that they
Starting point is 02:00:36 did they're saying that had a possession of
Starting point is 02:00:40 various figures historical, for call them some way they said that in there
Starting point is 02:00:46 apart to have various demons, there was Judas Ciscariotte was the man who
Starting point is 02:00:53 lived in Germany was this Kain Kain exactly between the most
Starting point is 02:01:01 famous were in these three figures that were part of the possession of Annalis It was a
Starting point is 02:01:09 legion practically about a region. Hasil, I go, much people started to mention because he in a moment
Starting point is 02:01:19 he, of the fact is curious, because it's the first video that he took to edit to him.
Starting point is 02:01:24 The first video, the first video. I enter to the team with us with us. And he can work.
Starting point is 02:01:31 And he said, oh, we're going to let's go, we're we're going to an episode
Starting point is 02:01:37 quite with a pastor. He said, we're going to talk of the case this
Starting point is 02:01:42 and you have to do that okay perfect to the renuncial of the actually
Starting point is 02:01:45 I'm I'm sorry that there for if you know so you prepare a
Starting point is 02:01:51 video for you see because he had another computer
Starting point is 02:01:54 when he he and he and he starts in the night
Starting point is 02:01:58 but every that he was the part where he did the audio
Starting point is 02:02:03 if went to he was he was he was And yeah, I still
Starting point is 02:02:12 working. Because your computer had to be connected to the current, not had a battery,
Starting point is 02:02:16 then I'm back at the last, and regisable to work, and I'm back to the part where
Starting point is 02:02:22 Puck, he gave a play, five seconds, he had a light, and it was where you know,
Starting point is 02:02:28 two times, like you, to say, so, so, then I'm going to
Starting point is 02:02:32 do you, I'm going to do a lot, and I'm not so the life, and he was his
Starting point is 02:02:37 he's, he's, he's, he's, he, no, you know, I'm spanked, but I'm going to do something, and I want to be testigo, and I'm going to be to spuntar, does it, da the click. Yeah, I've passed for this, some of the time, and that's not
Starting point is 02:02:52 to go to the light, and say, yeah, it would be a sombroso, if he's a click, and, this, he's going to the light. So, there's a video of him. Ah, and I'm, tell me that he'll grab, this, yes, because he's, and he does a count
Starting point is 02:03:05 of all the obscure, and, and me And he begins to talk desperated because he's he said, I'm worried I'm worried
Starting point is 02:03:10 I'm sure I'm in your case? No, yeah, but he's going to things
Starting point is 02:03:14 Ras saying, way, he's going to things things raras and say,
Starting point is 02:03:18 tell me what I'm what I say, I mean quita the audio, no
Starting point is 02:03:21 let you can't chambia but if it's a situation fair or better
Starting point is 02:03:27 to get it but there's because he has been the he has been
Starting point is 02:03:30 the other he mentioned how she the suffer in that part because I was
Starting point is 02:03:35 desperate that hour, I'm so I'm going to and what's going to things
Starting point is 02:03:39 here every that's I'm going to this audio et cetera et cetera and
Starting point is 02:03:42 so you know if you can't put it there has that
Starting point is 02:03:46 that's that is when was when she went in all the quadra okay that's
Starting point is 02:03:52 he he embruho all the manson and the other and the other that other that was
Starting point is 02:04:00 that was the last he put to prove this and only was
Starting point is 02:04:03 his house. Look, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 02:04:07 the, the, the, the, it's, it's, it's a house that
Starting point is 02:04:12 was a completely abacked. That's, there, he was, he said, and he
Starting point is 02:04:18 doesn't, see nothing, and how he's, and there's all the light, so, then,
Starting point is 02:04:24 so, so, it was the well, it's a, uh, ha, Hasel,
Starting point is 02:04:29 well, also, also, something, something, something they, The other things he, all
Starting point is 02:04:35 like, the manifestations is where is Haciel. I'm equivocal, or Haciel Vio, did something? Sure, that's. If you saw in the studio of Parado? Yeah, he's not
Starting point is 02:04:45 Yeah, he was, yeah, he was, yeah, he was, he was, he, he saw, that's famous there, no? The Amaliy. But, Hassiel
Starting point is 02:04:52 no, he had a, yeah, the Lord of Marillo. Is the Eligio. Exactly, and and of a lot and just like
Starting point is 02:04:59 like that had passed to someone. And I, no, no, no, no, no, no, of the Amarillo. And I said,
Starting point is 02:05:05 oh, yeah. Because apart I said, no, no, it's been that you, I guess,
Starting point is 02:05:09 that you, he has seen here. He said, who's told? And me said, what do you tell you?
Starting point is 02:05:16 Yeah, who did it and just when I saw, the car of the terror of Hasiel, I said,
Starting point is 02:05:23 the next he took, Hasiel in the airport to Merida. But, well, that was what
Starting point is 02:05:30 what was what was what was the case of Anelis Mitchell, every that we
Starting point is 02:05:34 know, it's or they seem in things very strange. The reality is that
Starting point is 02:05:40 we don't pass for a other this time that is a crime that
Starting point is 02:05:45 committed the for other for those parents I want to continue
Starting point is 02:05:49 with this because both those those were in
Starting point is 02:05:53 in 1978 for omicic omicid umisio umisid for
Starting point is 02:05:57 negligence and condendated to six months of prison and with
Starting point is 02:06:01 a liberty condition Conditional. If there were people that he went to the
Starting point is 02:06:05 man in this case and he said, this not can get to say, she needs
Starting point is 02:06:09 justice. So, so, you know you guys, what do you think? In general,
Starting point is 02:06:15 of this thing, of the crimes that have been much with the theme
Starting point is 02:06:19 too, it's a combination fatal. It's a combination fatal. The two
Starting point is 02:06:26 cases that you contests to me I'm impression much. Tant
Starting point is 02:06:31 Amity and Bill, like the case of Annalis Michel, that even there's a movie based in Annalis
Starting point is 02:06:36 Michel. The exorcism of Emily Rose? Exactly. So, me it's of the
Starting point is 02:06:41 worst combinations that could have. Definitely. Marianna? I think the thing, when we
Starting point is 02:06:47 do the criminal with the paranormal, we've got stories very Trist. So, what I'm
Starting point is 02:06:53 most I think is that the majority are cases very very very
Starting point is 02:07:01 Or no, they know, that they're partied, they're in justice, and are cases very fervent, now that also the, the, that's suedeingingingable, and the people, they're trying like loco if you're passing something, for example, I, I
Starting point is 02:07:16 ask you to you, and to the audience, too, if, de-repent, you know, that you, that's you, you're saying, I'm, I'm getting a loco, and, and, they're going to pass things in your house, see, you can, hear
Starting point is 02:07:28 Rewoods in your house, it's to have to have to have seen to move the things
Starting point is 02:07:32 in your quarters, and you see that the things start to and then it's a
Starting point is 02:07:38 effect to your person and you have the suspicion, to who you do you do you
Starting point is 02:07:45 do you? To us us, we know, we're saying, we're people who we're
Starting point is 02:07:49 people who but the people out of how you do you say that that's
Starting point is 02:07:55 like in a situation negative super negative and for other part now imagineate the thing of okay pass to something criminal and you
Starting point is 02:08:06 this kind of effect paranormal in the which you want to you want to be so where you are situations and cases super tristes
Starting point is 02:08:14 and existen these spirits that are trapped there and that all not encounter a liberation they're
Starting point is 02:08:20 to be able to these entities negative and they're more and they're this entity that this entity that
Starting point is 02:08:26 solian to have these records, they're going and they are these spirits negative in places that
Starting point is 02:08:31 we're called inbrugated. So, so it's very very hard, but at the same
Starting point is 02:08:39 time, it's, it's a fear. Because you know, you know, that's
Starting point is 02:08:43 definitely. That's a great explanation. I liked much your theory, your
Starting point is 02:08:47 explanation. To me me too, I think we're we're not we're that for
Starting point is 02:08:53 many people, but this really actually exist, There are many forms of to be it,
Starting point is 02:08:58 to live it. And they're these that are some of the few tititititit cases of that there for that the
Starting point is 02:09:05 people also to be able to investigate and put to get to do you. The fact I am I'm doing in this in vivo
Starting point is 02:09:11 you know, you know, so much, so much. Super well. I'm going to the comments.
Starting point is 02:09:15 I'm just hashtag Fuerza Hasiel. Dice, Dice a Susena. Dice a Sucena. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:09:21 yeah, we're back to the when the colors regress yeah. Ah,
Starting point is 02:09:25 let me back the attention. I mean, p, see more aesthetic this color than the
Starting point is 02:09:29 other. Is it? In the real? I don't know why. No, I'm the other
Starting point is 02:09:33 was more more so. But, but... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm
Starting point is 02:09:38 I'm a very good, and the really is a good, and the community super
Starting point is 02:09:43 little, that started to commenter super positive, and we're just we're just also,
Starting point is 02:09:46 we're just also. Thank you, muchachos. For for the people, for the
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Starting point is 02:10:01 like Mariana Mouse in Instagram. So, so you can find a like I'm like that's
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Starting point is 02:10:26 all the projects of podcast paranormal, that also we're doing, team, team paranormal. Yes,
Starting point is 02:10:32 a me they're doing in my socials, in Instagram, they're they're like, they're
Starting point is 02:10:37 like, but I would like more than an o'hito to this project that we're doing
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Starting point is 02:10:53 have a invited and us we can us cases so super super
Starting point is 02:10:57 extremes and we we have the section of the blog where I'm the
Starting point is 02:11:02 context complete of the story of some criminal so there
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Starting point is 02:11:34 thanks a lot of all guys Santiago Garcia no monkey and no anybody can
Starting point is 02:11:40 explain the no monkey no I need I need I need we need we need
Starting point is 02:11:45 we know we know we don't what we don't a bit a bit a bit
Starting point is 02:11:49 a bit time, but the people, I don't know why they cause a reason. It's gotcha
Starting point is 02:11:54 what what's a lot of some some of the little a little a man
Starting point is 02:12:00 and the little generate an obsession with this changito that's called monkey. So,
Starting point is 02:12:06 the little they're in the room, but the mom that was
Starting point is 02:12:10 doing something, I'm saying the little the little that said
Starting point is 02:12:13 no monkey, no, and he gave and the little had
Starting point is 02:12:17 some lacerations was But the people he caused Risa the fact
Starting point is 02:12:23 how I I'm going to I'm saying the No I'm okay Let's say Let me say
Starting point is 02:12:31 Let's talk about Let me What you You're Why you're Why you're To say It's that
Starting point is 02:12:38 I'm No no No No No For your Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 02:12:41 I'm Yeah There's There There's There's There is It's
Starting point is 02:12:45 It's the No it It's the context For nothing In the It
Starting point is 02:12:48 da risa. What does risa is the manner in how Paco say, no,
Starting point is 02:12:52 Monkey, no. Ah, ha, ha, ha. Al, Fembez.
Starting point is 02:12:59 I'll repeat. No, it's the story, because even even I know the but right
Starting point is 02:13:03 that I hear a but I know, and I'm going to, no, Monke,
Starting point is 02:13:08 no. No, how, how? How? How? How? How?
Starting point is 02:13:12 How? Fermex. Fermex, saying to Paco, to say, no, and Fermex,
Starting point is 02:13:17 no, and Fermex, Look at the Paco I don't see I've seen I think I think I I think I
Starting point is 02:13:26 Because the Hermex Emotiono Why the people Because the people Serried No, There are
Starting point is 02:13:30 There are A lot of Stikers Miosk Yeah Now Mocko See Mocky
Starting point is 02:13:35 See Yeah Hormex Hermex Permex Pirmis Oh Well
Starting point is 02:13:44 I'm going to I'm going to I'm saying No no No that's That's That's
Starting point is 02:13:48 FB To let's say you'll say it's all the o'clock. But, well. No, match. The fact, the fact, the truth, are you guys.
Starting point is 02:13:56 Muchism. No, the contrary. We, we're doing it. We know, we're really, we're really, we're
Starting point is 02:14:02 going to do a spoiler. Adelante, my God. We did some super grabations for criminally
Starting point is 02:14:07 practically with all the team of Paco. So, thanks, of the invitation.
Starting point is 02:14:14 Thanks for this, invite us to start here in the en-viv. A me I like much
Starting point is 02:14:18 to be here. So, I feel very happy. Thank you, thank you for, so for that's like to
Starting point is 02:14:23 accept the invitation. We're, we're contented to come, we can't, that they know,
Starting point is 02:14:29 Tuxpec, that's where we're going to be thanks. Mariana, Uttimus words.
Starting point is 02:14:34 I, the fact, I'm really, I'm very thank you, to thank for present us a space
Starting point is 02:14:40 for our own projects. The fact it's a great, so it's of beautiful, and we we're going to
Starting point is 02:14:46 we're in family, and that's like something that's like a lot of the audience, that's a really has a vibra big beautiful, and,
Starting point is 02:14:54 well, I know that the final is so it's like when you're a little bit of a movie of terror, not for that's that they're very
Starting point is 02:15:01 really, the two those, the two that's quite, the two conted, what you talked too, what you're doing, the other face,
Starting point is 02:15:07 herman, you know, you're gonna, you're gonna, you know, is me, it's, like,
Starting point is 02:15:11 Marianna, to end up a little of stress, of a little of a little to cause a impression.
Starting point is 02:15:17 He's like, Paco, Paco, Invita Fermex to see regalal sustos. That is
Starting point is 02:15:20 the secret Capitaine. Yeah, grab Fermex for a carmakes. So, wait in the
Starting point is 02:15:25 episode in the next time. Family, thanks to those who get at final.
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Starting point is 02:15:41 next in live. Until the next bye-bye. Fembeck! We're going to say that Paco
Starting point is 02:16:10 said that Pacco said, yes, Monke, yes. I mean that I saw that he got a
Starting point is 02:16:15 fernmix I don't know that he was a manita of the table. Look, yeah, that's the
Starting point is 02:16:20 rojo you put it Paco, no manches. No, family, pass it all the bonito,
Starting point is 02:16:25 you know that's always we'll talk a drama at final, pass it a bonito. Bye.
Starting point is 02:16:29 Bye. Bye. You know,

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