EXTRA ANORMAL - Debatiendo Misterios Paranormales | Realmente Podrías Quedar Poseído por Jugar Ouija?

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

¡Bienvenidos a una velada de misterios y debates paranormales! En este episodio especial, nos acompañan dos expertos en lo paranormal, Omar Crew y Antonio Zamudio. Juntos, exploraremos el inquietante mundo de la ouija y discutiremos la pregunta candente: ¿realmente podrías quedar poseído por jugar ouija? Desde historias escalofriantes hasta análisis científicos, desentrañaremos los secretos detrás de esta controvertida práctica. ¡No te pierdas esta fascinante conversación que desafiará tu escepticismo! Canal de mis invitados:  @SINMIEDOOmarCrew   @agentesdenegro 

What is what happens with the demons when they're trying to enter? Buscant your fissure more endeble. And the fissure more enduble could be a state animic, with a confrontation of your faith,

or simply, the callment to these things. The demonio is to try to your debility more profound. In the case

of those who are integrating in a session of exorcism, is saying, those that are in the place where

is exorcising the demon, he's going to be able to the debility of each one of the integrates of

the world by the view of the evidence. There are there are people people who have done

Adamico. The first language that's supposed God was called with that language

to Eva and to Adam. Why they have that they're in this level

of because the demonios not only bring desastre, also bring sabedure but I think but

I think it goes more from a simple tabla is a key and that that's a key abri

what is but there if you could I'd put an example more

clear Omar and I'll debate with a case that we we've

we to her mom, is to just see for only see the session of a

business. What kind of My name, be welcome to a chapter more of podcast Extra Anormal. My name, you know,

I'm sorry, I'm glad because today is a day very special. For me, a madrugat special.

I'm with two caballeros apart of many good friends referentes of the thing paranormal,

not only in Mexico, but in all Latin America. Antonio Samudio, Omar Kruh. How are you? Very,

thank you. Thank you. Thanks for the invitation. Before to start, family, I want to say that I'm much this video. The reality is

that is a video, a crossover that not is so common that see and that very difficult it can do do for

things of agenda, for times of times of times of times of different questions. The day of we're doing

we're doing almost at the 3 of the morning. No, we're not going to do

one once I anticipate, because the last time that I grabbed this hour is so it is so on WIHA. We go to start with themes varied of themes paranormal, with the opinion of two experts, two persons that not only only are passionate of the

theme, but are people who think that's a life complete and we're going to start, Cavalieros. Let's start with the first question, the first theme. Let me talk about a little of possessions of moniacas.

I've collaborated with Omar I've collaborated with Tried with him. So Moodio every one has a perception different of a position demoniaca

there's people that for that a person that has been to be a person that has been to have been a other, there

people who say no, that if simply a demonio want to enter a a person, you can't

do you? Let's start with Omar. Here, here it has to be, well, first,

thanks, and a good to be, with Samudyo and with Tumudu you, your brother, you know,

that we want to be welcome to the audience. Here are different types of opinions. Because

even to evaluate a case of possession, also there different types of methods. One of the

methods most famous is to get someone with a don, a don, a don real,

yeah or a medium, or a person that has a person who has a nod of the pineal,

his third eye, and that person revise spiritually to the affected or

affected, and so is a possession or no. There are there are there,

there are a capacity to interpreter the possessions and to detects fascinant. What the father,

for example, of the most famous, the father, Amort, that he said that he said, he said,

I what I do is exorcism, exorcism, exorcism, exorcism, and a sometimes to the fourth,

fifth, all, to the sexto, it's, and it's represent, it, is my form because no

I have a don, because I don't have the capacity that they have other people to identify

a process. Here, disgraceably, the situation is different with each case. It can be a personality limit of a person, of a person, of a human that is manifesting this attitude demoniac, but only it's doing some type of imitation or

some type of suggestion. There's the other that can't have an disease, a lot of pathologic, but if it can't have a schizophrenia, and that in some cases of the schizophrenia, because presentan this type of situations. And And there's the other, the other that can be, and there's two more,

that is there's a possessor, if you can't have a possession, obviously, if he needs to a process. I, in my opinion particular, no I think that someone could be posseated in form so rapid,

so bruska, because it can be a bit of life. There's people who have died for possessions. So, so it can't to lose the

life. So, there are people that can be seen not so much

if they can't be able to get a little a little a little on the

few days that's a minute. And there the other that I was talking

with an friend on a podcast that we took us a very little

in where there's the possession when the possession is a back,

when the spirit has to get to interest for that

person create and a schizofrenea in that person are so varied the cases that I don't say if

exists, if no exist, I think that is but with the debited investigation and that

not is so not it's a process okay okay differed a little

what I said Omar in the context of properly of a preamble to a

asseveration of a position there's why I'll talk to the point of from the point of my

experience and of the last few we've investigated that were 2020 and 2021

of those which the possession is a person is referent to someone that has

that is what they are not only only the ecclesiastical but also

the private psychiatras when there there is a miscarter

medical that is is of some importance. Even I'll say I

do you I'm recommend. I don't we've a approach of a person

that I'm a problem psychopathological and I said we did a bit of let me

we're we're not we're not we're we're we're doing a discernment

to the cases but we're not we're not we're that's saying if you

you're passing for a process medical even even whatever

person agen to process medical can disvirtual your

the the or even even it's even the decartes

for us basically is basic referring to the ecclesiastic is

when when a person with a exorcist this

this same has a structure medical not not

only in the area medical of the the area

that has been to have to be the

diagnostic medical that person, is saying, not receive a person just because

it's a person because there there's a lot of things that get in the environment

because in something we in a thing we're concordance a possessor terminate

for moriita but a process terminate because he wants the

most part of the times and that we don't we talk me I'm

with the man because is very delicate the theme of the

suicide the demonio what that requires of a possessor. Require the soul. And how can

subtracting, not only debiliting to the possess but also doing the processo, the degree

to terminate with his life. If the demonio that's the man,

not only only the the muke of ventriloquo. When us we're talking of the

syndrome of the monico of ventryloco we're not we we're talking

of a system or a we're we're talking of that in active the

possession, is that's the demonio is that exercing power over the person

and for so in the classification of the phenomenon is the syndrome of the

munich of the ventrilo and it when we see all this type

of the pain of the contorsion what they they call

much even the levitation many many about levit

levitation so to separate the the body physical of the subswelo of the surface

many are in the register that is separate 3 cm or even a little more but

we're just we give to levitation to that could be a person apco you say one of the

one of the cases is of a woman that is a back with the head

so stien that's that in a logic normal and common not could be not could be

I'm explained no could be for the fact that you lastimes the logic of a man to venters

to be aftarce and arco and sottener with the his logic would be that the

head yeah so so so not not don't

do so they're a level physical a a a

risk a maybe a but the portentosid of the moenco

of the position is that the demoni is that the demonio is the power

over the person. Oh, so I'm doing padecimions yeah totally

accepted by the ecclesiastico and decarted for the psychiatry. When a psychiatrist

you say we can we get the syndrome of possession is that not there's a

disiuation of your personality that that there there is a discarte specific

of a possible schizophrenia of a bipolarity and all that maybe

if she has passed for a process of schizophrenia, like said Omar, and that has passed

for a possible possession or a pre-possession and that had determined a pathology like this

but that if it has been able sanar or it's able to process after this

is a could make a fissura okay what is what what is what the demonios

when they try to enter to find your fissura more indeble and the

fissura more in-debel could be a state an animical

a kind of with a confrontation of your faith in what you

in what you think is your or not even even or not

to be to be to the deidad that we

obviously we think all we simply simply simply

the the question because many of the eccles

are they are that make sessions Ouija ag sessions spiritist,

we've done much that concept because we're weha and we're not us. Okay,

so. And until the moment we we've posseed. The how

know it has has been the direct ecclesiastica insist to us we know

for the ecclesiastico liado with the psychiatric. But there are some elements

basic that corresponded to know to know that the process evident

not a psychopatology or not is a trastorno and if, evidentlyntly there's a demon. There are some points that you have to have to say. Senoglossia. The senoglossia no is the same as anagnosia. Anagnosy is a

padecement, a trastorno, of the which us has to be able toerences. That is part of a trastorno, but the senoglossia is to be language's perdidas. Ojo, Paco, Omar, Not are languages of Oh, I'm in Latin

because I waske in the Internet and I waske how to be Latin no Or the regularization Arama Antivo Hebrew and Hebrew and Latin

Antio and o'ho not they're incoherentes and neither talk things is professed

of what is the creencia is there there passages Biblical there

conceptions of creencia that are fiacentemently written in the Old Testament when

there's when there an communication with the ecclesiastic is the

ecclesiastic with the demonio because you know there's there are

some specific for to determine if it is not

the ecclesiastico could get to paraphrase certain things

or happen of the own exortum of the

sacred exorcism and the demon usually he Contest,

although not it's rebele to see. Another element

is the super force to the sansonism and a person

of a person of normal, like we would be to be strong

against 10 men and they could control us

that's a super force usually usually is in certain

statistics of age even even children and children

of complex very big other is the evidence

but oh the evidence in what context, not referring to the evidence of a person external, the evidence of the evidence of the possessor. And the evidence of the processo, in a interlocution with the demon, the demonio will try to look at your debility more profound. In the

case of those that are integrandos in a session of exorcism, is that those who are in the place where is exorcising the demon, will be to look at the ability of each one of the integrants of that place for me of the evidence

and the evidence. And for ultimate and the most entrable is just

the logic to summice against that the power of

sacro okay is where they discartan because a schizophrenia or a

crisis of schizophrenia can be so many can be a lot of the animal

version contra elements sacros also have to be but

The ecclesiastic not the Reservant in the of the canons established, but more

than the what I have to mention so for us for us in directs

of the agency with the cases we've seen the the last

the last time that is the exorrist coordinator of the divis

of Mexico of Mexico is so in so okay a

moment you mentioned a game that I many said

that is a game the table Uija. A question that would

like to ask you to contestaran maybe not so not to do you know but

sorry you know don't know not you know no more you know no no you know

no it's perfect yeah no it's perfecto yeah one person can be posseida

or or using the tabla Uiha yeah is that we're

that is the is the same question, but with a little bit more here no, no, there's no, there's a vocation as a total direct that we're going to

an entity invisible but if it's a portal that we're managing, that we're having. There's a situation very important with the Uiha.

The statutes and the principles that you do for a possession Samudio are totally correct, yeah? Totally correct.

But, unfortunately, they're tergiversan because not are the persons corrects many

that can decifrar. It's like if to us do us a result of studies

clinical, if you not you're a doctor, then you know the person. I've

talked to me investigate cases in where not only they're

not only The evidence is very important and the knowledge that the person that is the person that is the posseid are very important because exactly

not they're in coherences. Me took a person that me envied a video of someone and when it was a decipherer a worderia

very complex but to start to decifrar that they're that not a Latin in the times of Jesus we're talking

of the 33 according to the calendar it was it was greegos for the commercialization that the greeks that the greeks

came of the vendymia hebreo latin and arameo there are people there are people possesses that

are amic the first language that is supposed god was he was he was

with that language to Eva and this so there how could a person to have that that level of that's a clear now other

other thing because they're in that they're in this level of the because the demonios not only bring

disaster also they're they're in some polyglotas are demonians they're in the don't of the language

so when they're in that position you contagion, you embarrant to, they're in mysterious.

For those is the super force is one of them. That is a condition of that the demonio

is acting like a mechanism within you. Although it's spiritual is, well,

no, it's inoloro, because wweleen very well, because present a

nectoplasma many times that have the capacity to expulsed the person certain.

Rejurt. Gritamient Yes, I mean, I've gotten some of the reportes. Materialize objects

important. Yes. There are, there's, there's, there's many, many, uh,

in the, in the wihia, actuan, the demons act are in a manner different. In the

wija, weha, we have, we are those who inconsientiment we need his entry

but, but, no see if you are to There's a portero, very famous of the wheeha

that's called Soso. This porter, normally there's many people who have used, I've played much the Uiha

and me I've been found many times, and there's and there's who you've played with Sos. So,

so there's like there there's a demonio of the Ujah that even that even is only the

exclusive of yeah. The WIha will enter to get to the power. You're

you're going to be a portal and you you're going to get to that demonio for the

power and for the power and for the power of your vocation. The vocation is that that's an

interaction. Yes, not just a call- about a invocation, but there you go and

something. It's tergiversated because the first wichas for the first, there's a

name that I never comment because it's a number hypotetic that has a

But, but they know of wichas much more antivas so

so, so, no know who who invented the but

there's more more more interesting. We're we have a table

with numbers and letters with a with a one, with a sun with a

moon with some with some more old and they are more

of what you what you do you want to do you want to

do there's there there's there there but the

Ouija no empezo to that manner are so so these demonios

these entities that are in the Uyja that they make

to make movements ritual ritualistic they they're exactly the

palabrii the syllables the letters for that you do

do do movements sigilos symbolism symbolism because the

first Wichas, if we go to years of antiqued, but the first wichas, not have, no, not had,

no, had been put, had been able to have the adesedary. Yeah, so I mean, so I'm

explained, as well, they'd have a alphabeta gamma. For a limited time at

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And it's made of a species of pendul. With those, with the hieroglyphics, it's like the tablia of the book of the mortars Uh-huh But it was not

a pendulum of guarso, it was like a piety Okay and they were like those questions, the sumos sacerdots

They were like the Cursor, the planchette that I don't know In fact, the table Weihel Parcess, the concept is Ui of French.

Yeah, in the but if there's a there's a memory of where it's but really

who gets to get to a game of a game of Mesa is Monopoly Okay and in

concrete you think that a person can be posseida or can be posse I'm

okay okay okay that I think that if weiramos an whiha with the movements principal, the movements

original, the possession could be done to a manner very rapid because not only we're doing the power of the voice, we're

doing the power of the movement. It's said that many of the wichas antivas were

they were in paredes because there could have a movement more fluid. Okay.

Yeah, then they're on in, in, in loasas. But I

think that if I should be that's that process, I don't have in mind,

zeal of the fractura spiritual. That's, so I'm only in mind, but I have

still my doubts. If there's there's part of the words that he goes

Samudio, but if I'm my doubts still that could be, that could be

that can be terminate possessors for use the whiffa. If not have faith spiritual, that is faith,

that's spiritual, that's spiritual, sure, okay. Samudio? There's a, differed a little, my dear

friend, Omar. And I'm a vivable voice of the, the use of the tabla Uiha.

Weh, we're not as we're because when we started the investigation of the

case, we we used the tablero. For us, of communication direct has been

an entity spiritual not demoniac because demoniac not for us because a demonio

even needs to a table of a matter to be to exercise on

you we we'll talk on other demon are that the

demonios possibly for geragias more other demonios and a so

could even these demons act to act to consignor or

for conviction in a moment that they require a human and

and the and the elements tableros huija are like the most

banal now now I you're I'm and I

do let's the I'm the two I with

with a session Wih without tabla Wih C I

I'm going to commit to an tour insolito for that we have a session in a

place where there's an activity paranormal where there entities spiritual and how

it's a session weha weha? We have a principle we did

do we did it has a kind of what kind of of what is what is I'm

a little that the spirit or the demonio or the devil or a movement

specific like to give to a species like of entry like a

portal I would say with all respect Omar not are

not portals for for a need to a malo that

should really a pass magic of and a

portal could be a special but would be

ritual but might be so okay so however

I have explained the table the tabler would

functionary or a sigil so the letters, the god, the ola, the sun,

the moon, so that would functioner like a sigilo but in no moment could retain a demon.

Okay. You think then that a person that a person who has not could be posseous

what could be the possession of their own right? Is this I mean,

I've said what I've said in the tour insolito to be in the utilization of

Wich is to contact with what there in space and time in the place and

Saken all the information necessary to know if it's here and if it's been manifestar and can photographia or video grab. No, they're in the time by looking

demons where no those are. Because then the entity will read and if you think that is Astharot to say that's a baleal.

Okay. And the entities, like the demons have been vidences. Yes. So, so it will give

a lecture is so, the P-a-pa, a scanner, and he was going to say, ah, Paquito he has

a lot. We're going to talk to start off. Okay. We're going to make us to start

for Astrod. So, what happens? I'll do your minds. Can't engage

with that? Yeah. And at a rato his mind to be a new motor.

The concept of the Uiha for that they're to get in all your public,

it was presumed that there had a kind of a effect of a

idomotor, is that you, a motor, my motor, and the of Omar, conjugated in a

unison, in a table, where our carbri, a possibility to communicate

us certain letters telepathically to be to be the table. But this

is a moment of that the entity spiritual reactionary for a mind

proper. It would be to be a possibility of a form telepatic

between the three, thinking at the same time the same word

and exercing a communication with we're in a motor. It's possible.

No, no, for much the probability is one in a million. Even the telepath

more advanced not could do that. The that's today for today you can say a

Uruguel car. No? Okay. So, your response is no.

Omar, you have a question? No. You think that I think

a little replica. In the case of the huija modern

I think it would be very difficult that there were a position inmediate

and I do you do not no no there was a position in

mediated this it's a door now the demons

is certain the demons are mediums so any

demon sometimes when you give the when you can't not can't

not can't have a demonio an access direct contigo if not

is connected with you. How is connected with you are you are talking to you're

you're talking something. Dicen some some people that the Uiha

active what is that's that has that has much sense much

could be a can be an mental with spirit with

your with your intentions so with your intention so it can be but I

think that I'm more more than a simple table I think that's a table not

has a but it's a container energetic of which not is the table in si

if not is a example not for example not a more compare it with a

one it's a it's a you that you you can that's that you

have to that in some moment has to be a retrospection. But there

would be an example more clear, Omar. No could be, for example, an evocation

of a spirit that's here and I don't like in Spanish, forget it, there's a mind

and playing with you and you do you do you ask a entity world medassion in a

spatio temporary then you are talking of an evocation of a grimorio

that they can and recognize that is very is very surte effect and I'll debate with a case

that we're investigating for the series in the Nelfries me encounter with the mal Andrea

his mom she posse for only see the session of a business

no took nothing only only he was on her window

she saw see And that demonio where was that? No, that demon was in the session that were in the

session that was doing the Withha? With Hia. Is that that is the But you said that was the contact or not that's a

gentleman simply was a somo to her own and they were their their business doings

in Wihah and the demonio is a form a analogy see a see the see the

yeah, me encounter on the Netflix for that you know on the on the

Ventana the way the way the Vizienes is the mom of Andrea

she moved the planchette and in the siphato it's like I have a doubt when she see a

not a contact visual well is that in analogia she'd have to have been to have seen

the demonio so you let's talk that's not in the series we're we're gonna

get she's she what's the what does the mom of the is never

to be the session but at the moment of the session including they're

an interaction with a person there's there's demonio. And also

it would have much to be, a lot of the reason, but no, there was contact, I'm explaining. No, but there you go. But, but if was a demonia in that wig. Oh, no, obviously, yes, but, oh, the mom of Andrea had had a fissue. Exactly,

if she went to the mass evil. Exactly. It's just, the chicks that were doing the session? They were protected, they were in their role, even even those chicks, because it could pass that Ian is doing a session and that the

entity spiritual is not even the pel to the session and the person and they put in the

attention of someone more. That's we were not waiting. Hasiel there in the

rinko was the person and he was in the table. For example he was

doing his role he was on Monterey he's the case of the policeia

that's the car of the right not? Yeah they're they're doing

a session of Wija in the house of the Right or of who?

Of Odaka. Apo d'Aca. A lot of a session of Uiha in the house of the devil

the police see that are that some people out of this house, the house yeah

had been protected with sal in the entrances to protect to the population

because we're talking of a entity demoniac so. Those are are

very very that can be time and time and so then they

can some some they put outentro started to transmit it in live

and they're they're they're supposed what happened what's going to get a person who that's not

obviously not I mean obviously not what are what are what are you who are who are

who are they're a one of the venting a in hisofacto in isofacto you

pung the the explorer the expo the explorer the person who are there

those the other policies start to give a reinimation because the police

was dead and he was he's he's his cargo and so you have a reason

the only that I am I am Ike is that you can you can't get

there's a way of that you can't do you know I'm does more is more is more

for that for so I'm for the answer I'm I'm I can't

do you can't do you I'm going to is that is that let me let me know

the velo of the no is a game no, definitive not it in the

moment that you can't go to get in the time. In the the game

your mind your mind you are being in the game. Yeah is

you are disposed to your mind. Sure. If you you know

is like an element of communication direct and to certain point

of contention you tell it is that the Ouija contien to

the entity is what I let you explain to a Paco what is what is the thing

in what is your vocation is a mal-each two your session is not

elaborated from one three you think that for the simple effect

of the planchet yeah not contact you with with it's

when it's more more so it's it's it's it's

it's it's not to No, you did any vocation real. Yes. At the moment that you guard, you see, as you

know, as the moment that you do you do you're doing a link-you-est- abriending a vinkul. No, a

portal, a vinko. I would presume as a portal for the fact of the fact of a word,

which was what I said, we'd do you say, we perturamus the umbral for the communication. A numeral is

a portal. Point. Okay. Although not it's a port, like that. Oh, with that.

I don't know different, Omar, not for other other things. Yes, yeah, no.

Now, in this tenure, I'm not, I'm not an ordinary insolid, those cordially

invited, the house to the four hundred years, entities of more of three hundred

years, and we we'll come and we're okay, the accordion, we're, we're,

we're, we're, we're, we're, correct, we, we, we,

we, Yeah, Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm in sure, I'm

with many things of what I mean, so, yeah, completely. Nothing more that's

that maybe at a more in a moment to talk about, we can't be the way in

the confirmation of the demonio, that I'd like a much to know, because a me me

passed many things personales personales after, yes, despite of having

played. And in the Then, then at the maybe I would understand a little more

what is what would be in my fissura was very very... Like the the predisposition to think that

a table of a huca contain a demonio. Can't be so I'm able to a change of opinion?

Yeah, so I don't have the demonstration is we're going to make a session. We're going in a session

in a place in a place where there's we did we did we're in other other place

but if there was activity. Because I was I said, Paco, as if your house, so it's your house,

or so the city, where it's there. Yeah, all the sides. So the method

is fideigno and direct. But well, yeah, yeah, I just let me say you know,

I'm just on your channel, logs in your channel, and we're going and let me go.

The next question, caballieros, when a person yeah is posthia.

Here, we don't about influence demoniac no we're we're

we're we're we're about males mental mental and

we're about a autentica possession for a demon of a

high hierarchy yeah we not we a, no see a duke

negro a a little little those chikito no

we're we're a family a a family a

a principal a president of a infire a principal a

Correct. Today, we've toped on the internet with that sacerdotes, pastors,

bruchos, chamanes, curanderos and herberos can make an exorcism and liberate the person.

That's what we know we're not we're going to we're trying in internet. Fulando exorcisa

the the senior that's limpia exorcisa that fulando exorcisa

by dead retro satan so ma pardon my friend to be there's a question

uh is certain that these people can get to

realize a exorcism You've heard of in your microphone? No. Right,

not. A's a rata so. Yeah. So, yeah. Some of

those people can realize an exorcism and if no, who can do you can realize

a reprending of this level? A very, I'm going to me go

to be a lot to do you not I'm no I'm not I'm

Ojo, eh? J. Boy, if someone has signaled the church, that's the agency

Mexican, at a sometimes we're really that they're not that they're

but for me and not only not only not not not only

for classified cases of possession and where I've

seen that that's for all that baragin and

that fom I'm I do with respect no with

with that fauna of frauduletos that the posseo that's a broujo shaman

shaman channelisador and all that fauna and it and it and it is the

only formula that result is that of Catholicism Catholicism Christianityism Christianism

also is that be a look at the representation yeah said Gabriel Lamort

that he not I don't know any demon ateo. Yeah. Now,

we're to differentiate between, a bit not the demonio to a demonio of

a Catholic Christian. No. It's the same a demon Buddhist

of the concept of Buddha or the demon no, I see Tibetan a,

a Nengi like a another a Dijin to a demon

Babylonico we We're talking in Hierarchies Altas Astorov, Belial Belzebub, blah, blah, blah.

So, they're riged all those under concepts religious. For that they're

they're they're and they're and the presence when the ecclesiastico they say

in the name of Jesus see. Tras. You know, that's something

that's a doblegan. Yes, I've asked to the ecclesiastico but

how the radica in the proper animaversion contra these symbols. It was my question,

Paco, that always I used to why when reprenden in the name of Jesus?

Ah, so, why so why if they are so strong and are fertentos

and are and they not only only the virtue or the conscience of a

person but also those who are they're because when when when

when they're a exorcist they sumen? Why they in their own

their own exorcisms they're under the question of the person in this has been

all the reason Omar when says not not all those

exorcisms so solucion so I've known exorcism of three

or four years even even even even demons that

even more more more I'm more I'm said

I'm said in when you you're in when you intercedes

involuces involucous or passas for middle of an exorcism and you you just

they've seen Samudius yeah you're in your mind okay so

so as so only people people within religion Catholic Christianism

can reprend Christianity Catholicism Catholicism that are prepared

those officiated as officersists so an parroco normal

without the tutela or in the know the exhortum,

you can't get a person. You're going to reten to be a lot of a lot of a lot of

something that's something that's a lot of the faith of many people during an exorcism that faith

that's a turn to turn to those devotos is helping to the exorcist for that can be

put to be expulsed the demonio but before the ecclesiastico has been to pass

for identify when it Identific the demonio, Paco, is when they can Vulnerate and when they can't When they're

a man Exactly, because yeah there's a in the exortum Ah, belial Perfecto, with this, with this, with this, with this,

with this, with this, it's like the guide, you know? Okay, you know, so then so, so then I'm,

and I'm going to pass to many guys and I'm sorry, but if there's very fraudulent that I've

seen, people, possesses, they're like with the Bruch and the book and they're like

more possesses of what they They were, or, or so unification other demons. Segong you, because a bruce, a brute, no

can't get a demon, Samuel. I, because no, no, they're in the exortum real.

Okay. Well, well, I said, a letania that's repitens the

the catemak by dead, retrosatank, God. All repit they're so. Yeah. What is

that? What is that? A oration? No. I don't know, I've heard of I've heard of

I've heard of in the exortum is a letania in Latin especially with certain

esposos about the of the ecclesiastic biblical about about just what to say the name

of Jesus the name the balsam is prepared for them the water the water

and it is like it's it really Boteca not it get to get them

they're like they're like the The stola, boy. I'll tell you when you're going to say a

when you see a father exorcist to do an exorcism, one says, yeah, I go the campbell. Book club on Monday. Gym on Tuesday. Date night on Wednesday.

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And they're stoicists, Paco. Okay. So, those who are we're trying, an exorcism, can't be able to be decilibrous in two patas. I mean, they did. Yeah. With me, they were despeda of the second or third session.

But you see to the father, I always, you know, God, all stoical with his stola, yeah. It's like the stola is part of the

armadura, you know? Yeah. Where he says the faith is all. And that

man of faith does exorcising a demonio. Okay. He's expulsed at.

At final, the that also has much to be with the arraigament of the

faith and the devotion and the endregars to God is the processo. Okay. And it's

something very curious to determine in a a diagnostic medical where the

possessor he presumed to have an eschisoprenia a bipolarity and the and of a surprise

it's a cure. Yes. Okay. So that's your response Samudu Omar Crue?

There's completely of a quote. Ciglo four no existian

written on demons between the century well the one 111, 115, 120

to describe like a bocetto of the Bible. Yeah, he to Constantino, in the 313, and he met his man and

make and desace in the Bible. So, he gets like a, a corrective spiritual in the

cycle four to the cycle five, in where they get the information. Where? Well,

I think that of God. I think much in God. Not in the religion as well, but so in God, because the religion, because the religion, well,

it was taken for, for the manos but I think God, but I think God, in that understanding and

seeing all that's abacinable, he says, I'm going to put to a time of the maldades that there in

this world, in where I have putto, and I'm going to do the medicine and to know

differentiate. Then is when it's when it's the first scripted of the demonios. Those demons begin to take

name, they're to take his don't his don't, sabidity and all. And it's

how the Catholics, in this case, well, Christian, Catholics, comprehend

that information, and they're the first exorcists. There's, no, there.

They're they, they're to prepare to the first exorcists. There are some

Fugate There are those Apocryphs that are occulted because the church

would be part of their power because they're doing the contrary what they are those

scriptures but also there other other scriptures occultos that are

occultes for security of human because in those in the in the

many of these instructions of how they're the balsam the

cunwentos the assumptions, how it's, because not just a book of the exorcist, are various

books, and depend on the demonio, is the medicine. Not you you're going to do a mammoth, the

medicine of Baphomed, or the medicine of Zibu, or the medicine of Lusbel. So, so I'm

so I'm sure with that totally. The person that has been to exorcisar to start, has to be

Christian, Catholic, apostolico, to start. Because it's the only in the planet that has the potesta

to realize that's a that area. It's the only. No, there's the other.

That if there are imitations or persons that make a depojo or a liberation

that I don't I would be a little that means that I want to people

that entretienen a little that demon so they can be able to

a person if they're not going to destroy it, not they're not going to not going to

get it to that person. A more they're in a circle spiritual.

Yeah. And in that person can have a lucidness or a space of

lucidess or you can say well, I'm just I'm don't know, so you

know, that's the demonio entered more to the entrae and he said,

I'm I'm to be to be so pass and And I'll go and I'm controlling and dominating my,

my, this. You know, I've seen Omar, pardon you interrupt. If you know, I've seen just those, uh, these anecdotes of, this,

he went the brucho, he's a limpea, he did this, the other that I'm, I'm like, so I'm, I'm not I don't know, I don't do,

I don't say, in the ecclesiastical, no apasigua is a demon, a bit, a bit, a bit, to be,

to be inconsient, it's, a demonio, it's a demonio, your soul a demon

no come a demonio and we're talking that's

that are that are that they're that's imagine imagine a a

man a not not a not we're not

we're we don't confundas the ars no we're

that alturgy and the occultism purgian and a

man a man of the Mercado Sonora. Correct. So we're going to so.

So we're all right to all of course that only people authorized for the theme ecclesiastic are those

that can doggio, despenement, liberation, exorcism. You know, the ecclesiastikos. Okay.

Yeah, you know, yeah, let's do you see how it they're saying the ecclesiastikos. We're,

we know, we're not one in Guadalajara, specifically in a capia of Liberation there's

that's the that's the I'm in the other podcast where this quater has exorcism collectivus

to more to 300 people 300 possessos and he is well you know

that something he's also also also also didn't Gabriel Amort and it has been

the exorcists that I have known have known they're very peculiar yeah

and you're you you're you're combating with something I that I created was a myth

but when I see the possessor that it contorsion it and it's to direct

to do and there some of he gets I'm I'm a investigator to me

when when I took to live with Cyprian well so

fricied so so so I when when I confirm with this

new ecclesiastico that has a sense of the humor very

peculiar and he me, you know, and the and the and the

and the family are, is that we, it's that we're we're not, we're going to go, we're going to do you,

not so why, why they're they're, to be, so, so, so,

so, he's, this guy, he's taking very at the light, or he's going to be the

thing, and when he when he's, fiatte, what you do what's this this is, this is this

to do this is to let's start, and you, and you, tell me, and how

you've sense, and it's into the paraphraseo and then it's a word,

wow. Impresionante because he he's talking to the demonio. Yeah. No,

he's talking with her. No, he. So, so the father, you know is normal?

Like, my, how is so, no, so you know, who's best, but,

and the chas and the chas and the chas like, you know, and they're when they're when they're

in crisis of possession. Oh, oh, of my point of view but the crisis of possession is

very dramatic okay that any of those that we're around you're frekees and you do you

do know so yeah so crisis of possession collective I you talked about the case of Alondra

that we're to revelable in the podcast the case of Alondra is an child of approximately

18 years that is posseida and that passed for those brucos and all final

of the day this that's what I'm talking that's the video of the voice of what I

see that I'm that I'm a lot I'm in my wife you know I'm

okay is that is that yeah can be well can't be a custodio

that you put a a person that's that's a person that's

a shaman a balah a chaman you can you can clean you so there

there there are there there are spirituals that is that

is that one of a person but a demonio so we're talking about yeah

in an alto rann we're we're we're we're many people people

are many they're that the people were not to certain point if we're

we've historically and liturgically is the first religion that was the demonies

of the men, but once he was the name was the all the exorcist primary of

all of all. And I'm the exorcist religious, Jesus. Right, where we see the

first exorcism in the history. Yes, so the first, the first that's

the people, and for he's there constantino and he met you

the messolance in the man, you know that we know, and so

just ah, ah, like tergivers so. Yeah, much.

But the but the version primary not not so of the religion because the religion is the

gratitude to Constantino more well of the devotion to that possible Nephlin that we've talked about in another

postca in another book we're in the grand Jesus would be good so we're

we're talking about the first expulsed of demons who who's who who

who who creates the exorcism per se is the proper to the world is the partentosion

so so so for the portentosity and ojo I don't know with that fosivity

because I've seen to work. I'm not I'm a Christian Creeam Some of

Van Helsing how's know Van Helsing the Cattador of vampires are so

so really are some some people obviously they're in their

life of yeah yeah of yeah of but

they when you when you you took the opportunity to

I talked in some that I went with a monseigneur, and the monseigneur was an exorcist, I'd, and when he said, you're a exorcist, right? She me kept seeing, he went, and he said,

why you say, because you say, I'm a exorcist? He said, right now that he moved, his malet is a too old. And right that she was, this, I heard the, the, those, the bottles of crystal. And there, in the horizon, I try a book. I said, that book is

of the and he said, I mean, I mean, I mean a man, for you

why, because you because you don't know to me I'm to read of this

and I have I've studied a little in PIC this amateur

but I said, but I read and I'm he said you know you

want to you're what I'm what I'm I'm what I'm I'm

I said, yes, for favor. And he was, and it was a, and it was a boticario complete with

three books, and me said, I'm saying, I'm a person that libera, that exorcisa, but,

this, very observator, me said, but I, I, and I, that's the book,

this, where is, that's, that's, that's, nothing, me said, I'm,

I'm, more, better get to say, better, you're, so, so,

so, and are, so, so, but I'll say something and I'll say

something he'll change his physiognomia when he he said first he's very jovial

because he said he said he was I'm enizar this event he did but when

I discovered I who he was his car changed he he put

so he put Recio and he said is that is that I don't those

we have we've we've had the opportunity to to know

to to know simply the media theology. So Ciprile had a doctorate in insurcismos in the Vatican. And, and then me ensued

to only give a, like, a pre-diagnostico, sin that I be official. It's just to me, me, I mean, me, I go, like, you know, question for if, whatever thing, and me you know, like, like, as a case. Like, so, I mean,

evidently, I don't know. Evidently, I don't know. No, it was not official, and nothing, but, well, then, but, then he showed certain things. And if they have a capacity

even to be stoico that is impressive. And so maybe the the ponencia

like you when they're when they're to do, and what I said to the stall and all

me when me when I was I was freakiedissimo Garney and me put a balsam

in the front and he's a narrator and I said like I said that you're religious

you're going to these words and you know and I'm he said to do

in the orator in Latin yeah I said repeat with me and so and I started and

he said and he's the cruis and all right and you he's he's I'm

so I'm I'm more ferekeated for that so but it's the ignorance so

so so honestly so honestly I'm honestly I'm honestly and direct

you know directly directly of a person agnostic Totally sceptica, go first with the ecclesiastical.

No pierceding the time. Yes, if you're going to lose a life, if you're going to... Of course, caballeros. Let's appreciate much.

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