EXTRA ANORMAL - DUENDES, CHANEQUES Y MÁS EXPERIENCIAS OVNIS

Episode Date: May 25, 2022

Hola! bienvenido a mi 11 capitulo de podcast Extra Anormal, en esta ocasión tengo una platica con un buen amigo, Roger Souza, quien nos comparte dos de sus mejores experiencias con el genero paranormal y platicamos también del pasado eclipse que hubo. ponte cómodo y disfruta de este capitulo que o hicimos con mucho amor y cariño para todos ustedes.

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How well, people, be welcome to our 10th chapter of your podcast ExtraNormal. Me,

it's a lot to be new here with you with you know, and well, I'm going to a chapter very special because

the day of a day of a company, a friend, a lot of maybe much you know, I'm going

about the good Roger Soza. Hello, how muchachos? Here we we're just one way more.

I'm encantatism to be here in the good back. The fact it's the second

that's with me but it's the first new project that is podcast extra normal. He was

when this project was called Callejoon Urbano. At the most of you know some you know some some project

starts as a change and we change a little the format. So, we make this program be a little

more tenebroso, to tell experiences of other indol. And, well, Roger, is

a person, a typos here, this, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. He's dedicated

to the photography. Yeah, more And, well, we're going to start with this Capitul, no, bro? Yeah, well, for those who know you, for those who

know, for those who know they know he's a lot of photography and is a person, well, you know, has a Instagram very and I'll invite

to, of actually, to passen to visit it. How can you can't find you to find out of Rogers in Instagram, TikTok,

even in Facebook also in Facebook also. The fact are those photos that are very, very good.

I'm going to go to visit to his Instagram and once a time when I

talk about the project. He said, Hey, Roger, you have some experience that you

want to share to the public to be a podcast extra normal because we have in YouTube,

we know public that we can we listen on Spotify and we listen to Amazon

Music and me and me said, sure that I'm then you tell us

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Capitulo one, Capitulo two, and you'll go to put me. Oh, yeah, I'm, I'm going to do it. Yeah, I'm going to prove it.

Well, where do I'm my esteemate, Paco, for the start, no? This, well,

I'm, in this of the photo, well, I've seen one or other other thing. No, no, I'm

to say, that, I've seen that I've seen or phantasmas or duendes or things so, spiritus, but if there have been things that, you know, you kept thinking, or, no

knows how to explain it, or when it's the people not to it, no? In fact, it's the most recurrent. Yeah, so it's just that you are you're telling what you even, even to me has passed that, that I'm I'm going to tell, I mean, I

remember of that moment and even I mean, scalofrills, but the people is like, ah, I mean, it's a

fracotroar, no? But in reality, it's so, you know, and in

my case, the things that have been passed more raras me have passed in this, in

this time of Semana Santa, of this time of the time of the world, is when

more things rare as me have occurred, and one that I remember

very, very well, was, it was when it when it when it was the

pandemic. I don't know if you record is that there was confinement, between commies. Yes, yeah, I think that if I paniqued a lot of, I mean, I'm encerre, I mean, to start of March, that was that

declared, the pandemic, the pandemic, I'm in my house, I've been a few months now so, now see, without having contact, and one characteristic that

has my house is that not is very great, but it has a patio that is extensive. So, so, there, in this Epoca to start into the house, no, no, so, you know?

So, then you put your makita, you're, you know, and then you put there to do some activity to disabourriety, because in that then, because I'd say, no, I'd be in the cinema,

not so could be there to come. And even if I'd like to get, many establishments were closed. Of each, of actually, so the maximum

that could you were to domissile and it was, so, like, so, like, like, so, it was. But, well,

this that me passed, I remember very well, that was this, a second, before, the, of the Cuebe Santo, and it was very curious, because I'm very

very, very aventated, very, very, to do you ask experiments, and this, and, this, I think, like, in this time of calories, and in my house, well, we have air-conditioned, this,

it's, so, I'm occurred to what was to get my camera to because, because, as a , it's a patio So, nobody, between, commas,

nobody's, but nobody is going to get to know. So, so I saw that my

camera, uh, there's there's a computer, or my iPad, and I'm put to do

edit, photos, or to play, videohows, and figgins that of

a time, of a time for, for a, for a, from these days, this,

I, you, you, you, you, you, when, when someone

is, you're, you're, or, you're, you is, you're

explain that sensation. That is that. I was, that I was, that you know, that I'm a normal. He says, it's the punsada, literally, you know, a little, you know, a scale of or so, something. So, so, so, is something. So, so, so, so, you know, is a lot of it. So, so, no, no. No, or, or, or, or, or, no, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or you know, or a, yeah, or a, yeah, a, ha, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a lot of, for those that don't know, and well, I think that, I think, I think, I don't

know, I think, many cases, I have many cases, I don't know like the patio is, is, it's, is, it's, is, it's, but,

I do the space for, for, to have these animals, that, so, they, no, no, don't,

that, and, and, so, come plantitas, and, so, so, I, don't know, so I, so, I'm,

so, I'm, so, was, for me, it was, was, it was, relajant or being

how they were the connoes for there I'm in the airsito back in the stories that's

exactly so yeah so so something something something that I'd you know

that I mean you know you said you know there was a something was not an animal

because even even even those most the same they were even

even there some there some there's the cones that when

when they get fear, or they spantan, assot their pats of the back, so, like, like, they're going to, or, like, to indicate to the

other people, so, okay. So, then they're doing that regularly, and I said, no, so, at the more, a little, a-gill, an al-an, an al-an, something, but no, I said, and I, I mean,

that's a sensation, until that me, I'm, the curiosity, and, and, and, as I, you know, I did I, I'd do, I'd dedicate to the photography, because

I'm a certain equipment, no, of the grabation, of filmations, you know, for the events, the 15 years, bodes,

even to be in even to microphones, and then I'm, well, I'm a little another lampara for, now so,

for assist me in this type of of the work. So, what I did was, mounting

the equipment as if were I, to grab a event normal, like, like,

like, and I'm put in the part where I was that I saw, that was,

I mean, I was, because really I don't see nothing, no, no, you didn't hear about,

but I sentia that there something, then I put my equipment, me puts to graber, and well,

the first inconvenient was that after a rato that you put a light in, in a

place in a camp abiot, no see you have noticed, Paco, that then

then the lamperas are full of insects so, revolteating and all that.

Me passed with that the law so. So, that was my

first obstacle that, I, to put the lampara, all what I grabbed were insects flying or that were in the camera

and really no be anything. So, I said, how can we solution this? Well, I waske there

some application to, but to manipulate a little more the parameters of the camera of my cellar that I said,

well, no, not not are so not so much doing. So I found one one very

good, that is gratis, and, this, to permit to do so with the maximum iso that

permit the camera of your cellar, and you do an image like if were of vision nocturna. It's, it's, so, it's, so,

so it's, so it's, so it's, to be able to the focus, for that the insectos not were

not doing a lot, so, so I put, I was, I'm a little nervous of what I was doing,

because, because, because, because, I remember that my mom me said, the,

the who buske encounter, Repelel, the, the book, the book, don't, So, there, like, yeah, I put nervous, but I said, well, what could be?

Maybe it's an animal or something that not, that not is, this, extra normal, no? So, then, the puce, this, the first night, and, this, passed something very curious. My cellar, so, and this, and this, and this, no, I'd have passed, because, well, I, took the precautions necessary. I've got an extension I gave the Carragor, it's connected

it, I'm on a tripe So I said What's going What's going? Because it's Apago or no And I said

Well, yeah Let's go to Let's go I'm going to I'm here in Persona and Yeah So,

I'm going to Because here, so Yeah, so So, so So, so So, for my surprise

Paco Um, um, that were like Like, it was like the night and I

was there was I was I was grabbing, and even I remember, a lampra of a man and I sentia that presence again, and

I remember, I remember very well, that there were many because, I mean, the air and all those, the arvoles, well, they're taking. Yes, yes, yeah. And I remember,

f-garet, it was a sensation very strange, as, you know, the punsada, of that I'd heard, that I'd heard, the tronar of the sojitas.

And, you know, So, without exaggerate, or so, I'm erisarons, those bellows. And, well, I'm going to

get to go to get, I'm going to go to get, for, for the people are, to know,

or me to be a, I'm going to believe what I'm doing, no. The Lugro, Pacae,

I put the lampara, and when I started to where I'm, to where the lampa, so the lampa

so the lampa, I was where I began to put a nervous, the lampara not the lampra no

it, and, well, only had the, the cellular, what he had to capture the cellar. Uh-huh. So, I sent, you know, like if stood there,

I, and I felt like that the passos came to me, I mean, so... That was... That was, uh, but in any moment, I was

in no moment, I saw, no moment, I mean, no one single figure, no silhouette, no, you know, you can't

capture, no, you see, no, so, and, I, so, I, so, I, so, I, so, I,

so, I, so, I, so, I, so, and, well, I could be on the camera,

no? Yes. And with, I mean, with the camera, but if you can't

feel, Paco. So, was a thing, that's, that's that's the

moment, I'm aterer a little, and I said, no, we're going to

get the operation, but this bit I'm because I'm going to something, so I'm

something, so I'm so, so, so I'm so, so I'm saying,

you know, you know, you maybe a better that that's, the The fact, what you know, then, if you're in the house, and, well, in the media,

well, to where we're going, no? And, you know, you know, and not you put it to think that at times is more to know, say, there's a lot, yeah, yeah, yeah, see, yeah. This, look, something, well, time with what you. No, no, no, any, a photo, or something? Nothing, I mean, the pure experience. The pure experience, and it's more difficult that the, that people think, because, you know, so, you could say, well, you can't say, no, but, well, if you know, but if

No, we'll do we can't, but I can't juror that was, I mean, was very real that, that sensation, even, this, this, and this was, now, so, now, so, what I'm the most curious, and where I, I, yeah, I did for the past, that thing, was, that I said, no, you know, you know,

I'm gonna say, no, you know, I'm gonna say the malas. So, what I did was, now to put two cellars, the two, cubriendingse the points, for so, so, so, I, so.

Puse, I, but no, I put it, they were they didn't, for them. I mean, all my errors, I'm going to

do you know. You're going you're going, you're going, that a cellular disappeared, and other it was just,

I don't I found the form, and they're They're they're a Oh,

no, no, pettate, peter, yeah, I'll go, yeah, go, what I'm,

what I'm, what I'm doing, or the light, and all the other, in the

place, an application for camera, installed an for video vigilance. Ah, like the cameras? Exactly.

Of those that when detects movement, they're going to grab or they're taking photo. Ah, okay, okay, okay. There was what I did. So, I think it was very curious that I, in my

house, for the inside, now, now I see, that's connect them for Wi-Fi. So, what I did

was from my iPad to be checking the two cameras, no? And, even I remember that night, I was I

Cabecea but I wanted to see what happened. And if I detected a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a Covey, a rama, and I was detecta. So I said, it's functioning. So okay. But there's a point of the night where I'm, I'm, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this, and you know, I said, one's, a pago, a cellarer, that yeah, he'd have hours, and that the pile, even that application is very good, then I recommend.

Okay, this, the mark even the percentage of battery. That was the 100 because they're connected. So, so I'm

going to one's a paced and another disappeared. Okay. So, what was what

was the day next, I mean, I said, well, where's where I was

where I'm saying, a problem here in my house, no, at the more people,

and me know, and me he's and I'm just said, I don't want with the Tio Apple

that has to local to localize the cell, no? So, then I'm It has a pill, has Wi-Fi, if it's here in the

house, and I'm going to find, and I'm going to see, Pucko, that if you're going to, but you're going to think, Pucko, that if it was, you work, where was the cellar, but I said that was in the patio. I said that was out of the cellar. Where you had left, and not was there. And no, I'm. And I started, and I went, and I'm. And I still marking that was there.

I said, well, at the most I was failing. I went for the other cellar that I had. it was where I'm I metia the house and checked and I'm

markable I'm sure they're in those two I'm sorry I'm there's one and I'm

and not I'm not I'm not I'm I'm know what I'm what I'm

I'm in and I'm and he said my mom and I go ohie for a boy

because I live with my mother and my mom so I'm so if I did you know if you're

a car I'm still still if you were under the earth? And, I go, I can

decompone or something like, like, like, yeah, for a problem, yeah, yeah,

it's really, that's what, well, it was a day, passed on two,

passed a month, and I kept, and I'm, and I said, and I'm

possible, I'm there, I'm just, there, I'm, there, I'm,

there, that the iPhone, can't even when they're to get a lot of

that's a thing, that's something, so, so, So then I So then I He went to get a point where he was nubland and it was like to gover. I said to my mother and my mom. I go, for favor. If you're supposed to be able to be here. I'm going to be able to be it. I'm going to be able to be it. I don't know. It's a good one of course. I mean, it's a good one. I mean, it's a lot of you. I guess what he said.

He says, my abuelita us told about that a lot of those duend you're doing

I'm going to get to go to go to the church and yeah will appear his old

magically so he he said the dweens are very travesto are children so the

so what you have to do you when you are when you're you're saying let's give us dulces

and let's give us an offering or something regressame what you're in what you're going to do that that thing, no? So, so, so, so. So, then

no, I did. And I did it. And I did it. And I said, it's, and me I passed, you know, looking, looking if the earth was moving, and I still appearing there, the cellarer. No, ma'am. Me despersepared. I, you know, no, no, no. Pah, yeah, I go. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. I. To see, bribed to my, to, my stories of Instagram. Let me, pass this situation. No, I don't know what I can't do, what I'm recommend, or what they're in what

they're in what they're saying, and much people me contested that they're saying that they're doing to give dulces for that they're going to, and I think, no, I mean, it's possible, no, it's possible this. So, I mean, I was too, because this is a drama.

So, this, uh, passed those days, Paco, at least, I mean, I said, I know, it's possible, no, it's possible. A lot of course. Unfortunately, I I was, I go, we're in pandemic, we're not our other reclued. And, well, it was a cellar that no occupier. Really, I'm there. Like, I'm a respondent.

Well, I'm going to send a message. Yeah, yeah, of emergency. So, it was a month, and, I, I, I mean, well, what else does, no? Well, I don't have anything to lose. But I don't have to do it. But I'm going to do it when, when I see. So, I'm so I'm very temprano, I, with some, with some, with those dulces, chiklosos that we had

of Navi And this And he was I'm I'm a Batio and I'm

I'm I'm not I'm what what they were what they were that

they were they were and I gave the and I was the cellar where I'm markable

that was the me the riffo, no, I, I go for the, for the mandator, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, so, I've been, I've been to checker where I'm in a little moment,

I'm going to when I get to, when I to make me the location, no, for whatever

thing, and when I was where I was where I was where I was possible, I said, I

said, I had been in my house, no, I was in the cell,

and I, and me and me mark that was there with me. I said, how is possible? In which moment I

changed the place? Uh-huh. And I said, how was it he entered? And yeah, when I saw, I was, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sure, I'm meted, in one of the sillions of my house. But, yeah, yeah, but no I didn't know anything, and was it, I'm completely descarried. So, I'm sorry, I'm gonna, and I'm, oh, yeah, how, so, how

it was, and then, then, so, so, so, I'm that, I mean, that, I mean, that, I mean, that, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, so, yeah, so, I'm, so, That's, I recommend. And I said, oh, yeah, it's that's not a drama. I mean, but me it's, I'm sure that I'm

I'm sure that I'm made, I'm out of because me it's in a form very serious like if, like if it's like to make, cloro with acid in the

no, so I said, I'm saying that you said, you know, but then I said, so is that you're just that

you had to you had to do from a principle. And then so, so, so, I know,

I say there's something there, I, say, I, but no, no, no, I'll looker, no, I loggre grab. And, and, that's the anecdote that I have, I'm esconded on that telephone,

that I, I know where I was, I mean, I was able to, but not was physically. The chido, well, that you could be rastrearer through the application, I mean, so, that's what it's more interesting,

because if no, you'd have been put to have said, no, well, it's been lost, me it'scunded, and it appeared justly in a place, but the chido is that

you're doing that you was doing that you're that's doing, place, way, that nobody to see you to leave that offrenda and casually the day

next was where you're going to see, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, ma'amess. Of course, so, as as you've

investigated a question, with the time of the dweens, the elfes. And, effectively, well, the

legends say that are things that are different dimensions, supposedly, we're, we're in the

third dimension, no? That is the plan that we know, but that exists the fourth dimension,

or many they put another number, like a zone spiritual or zone I don't see has seen different names

even Jacobo Grimber the scientist he he he called area spiritual so supposedly these beings have been

that's ability not of brinkar to one dimension to another and even maybe

it was for example if me to be in the cellular there maybe was in

other dimension but for GPS you still mark that she was

because at final of the was a final of physical, but that not was maybe in that plan.

So, so, these are these beings, then they're that's ability to bring between

dimensions and that effectively are very travisous, way. Something so that I can't

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and Hydrogen Energy Association. In other capitals, a man that I have, that I live in a platanar, this, here where I live, is that's a banana, way. He had a kind of a casita where he lived with perros, and cats,

and a lot of things, and he had a yewa. me He said that he he was out and in the pelito of his yegua

I don't I remember how it's my ignorance I don't I remember but in his hair

his cresta no not is cresta the crests of the gallina of the

guill pardon his his penit that he had all the

mornings he he's he was he was he he was he

got that he don't a typical trinces that you very small that are made

like with manitas but it's a trance that comes to have been of three and there's

a point where they're and then they're a lot of different but at the final of

you know and a characteristic of these is that they like to find things and they

like to make trances when they're even in women that they when these when these

these people when these they're like they get to your life to come to get to

almost to like in your case and And in the case of the

women they like to make their strens to the women unbarasas and it

when they they're because they they're they're after they're to get and then

robesels and get us and the really no what they do they do you know a

person an person innocent a person a person a person pure so

so I don't I don't idea because it but there many cases of

women that have been even impossible because sometimes they're only in their houses and they're just in their babies in a cuna or in a maca and simply in a moment

yeah not is, but you have found that before that all of that all that happened they'd amncese in the so they're always and never you've ever seen

and never left to to your house someone like the bandigerer or Agua Bendita or the pastor or the father no say

something? Well, fifted that in my house we have we we have this, Agawbendita.

Well, my family has been Catholic. So, this, we know, water

redidates, Syrios, veils, all that's, and, so, so, we're doing,

but, I mean, there's, there's, there's, there's, well, maybe if

not they're going to the water bendita, is that, is that, is that, but,

but, but, you know, so, it's something that's a, is something that, I, me, me,

it's because I don't look at all the manners, I'm going to give the cameras,

I'm a device, I'm doing and never I'm able grab. And another thing very

characteristic of when the people the people is that what you do you know,

so that simply from a moment to other, the cameras uh, no,

there's a question and it's the battery and the battery is the battery is simply

that the camera no in what is the the effected that they're, that they're

to work, they're so, I mean, the net, I'd say, I'd say, no, well, let's tell me a photo and I said, no, but right they're going to be here, no. But no,

more I'd like, I'd, but no, no, no, no, not, no, no, not, no, not, no, the fact, it's very good

of those, of these, of these, of these things, because I mean, I, I'm, I'm , I'm sure, I, I'm,

that my house, uh, me, me divide, to a factory, so, so, literally, that's the factory, He's here just here,

and only me divide a barred, I mean, I'm going to get a barred, I'm going to where it's

a little Cerebecerer. So, one of a case, there's a case that I going to tell,

more ahead I'll show the interview to this that I have told many times

to the followers, that is a veteran, a man who he's a man who

he's a in that fabric, and in the factories always there's of children, of

things that they've, the case is that he was working and he was a montacarguist, he was encargues, he was the tarimas, jenas, catons, to a, a, a part of a wagon of train, no? So, and a person,

well, maestra in doing this, well, yeah, he'd have more to 20, 25 years, doing it, and one day he said that the things were bad, so, he'd call to the carga, no respond to his

machine, or so, many things, and he sentia, precisely that sensation that we've seen, that you

sent us and he he went to make the job at the job at the whole and at

the final of all the first of the emergency and get to the supervisor took a photograph

because he said and he is going for if in the trajectory something

so you know they know they're because they're the evidence of how

they have the moment of that he's subed to his model to imprim

the photo and then to leave it as evidences log to see to

the famous macho boy oh yeah a guy of a of the

of the crab great spectral with the quernos so very

quite this occurred in a in this fabric and he

he said that my son he said he said he said he said

because no I know because I'm I'm a company of him

never fault of this companyer that says let me that photo boy I'm going to

take a photo and I'm going to do a way for the good for the good

for the good agrata for what he the bato he had he had

his he he he made he's he is now now

now now so he's that he's he he was

he took an accident in his car where he was with his

two two kids and his husband and his suitor,

some bad in that accident in the three people, his two

children, his two children, he was totally illes, something because

it was an accident a great, so his family completely fell

at the moment, and result illes. So, it was a case that

impacted much, my my papa, for example, also he's

in this fabric, this person that I said, he me told

all this and he He did a scandal because it was, no manches, it was a little too. So, the senior was completely solo. And the chistos,

well, no, chistoso, the, what's really the attention was his words that said before. No, well,

well, well, to the good to do you. As a mother, man, I don't know. I've always

said that those things, way, well, they've been, like, I mean, many people

still do many others not, but I'm always I've said, no, until

that not you pass you can you can give the benefit

of the so here in this set here here is my

brother he's he he he can give testimony that when

we're talking we're talking you're there's you get to the

house here there there's there there all right all around

we and we we're we we're we we're we we're

sometimes we're and the one to the first, tras, there's something here in the techo. And, of good, I'm going to get to goop here the pader to the side, boy. And so no, it was to start a part of the middle of our podcast.

And what a lot of us ourselves was, were to cut, paravons the video, and recortable that audio, because I, well, it's that it's going to be bad, or so, because no, it's a reaction, uh, ha. And me he says, yeah in the last capitals, let's not the recortes.

That you see, that really, well, what happens, when one You know, about these things, way. And, in the last Capitual, we, we're doing when pras, the madrasse,

no, and the two, so we're doing we, we, so we, what they're, what, what's written

in the comments in the YouTube, me say, when you know, when you did you pass that I'm doing the

podcast and my cello in my celluna in my car, when he's when it's because I didn't know

he, he, he, and other bato me he, and other Bato me people who started to say that when passed that, to them were

that they were something else something else and I said, well, what I'm doing with that man and a

sometimes, well, I mean, I'm going to do you know, I'm going to my spouse, no,

well, I don't think I'm, at the one of the morning here you see doing in vivos,

and no, I'm, if, if it's, yeah, so I'm, and I'm so I'm

just talking with various spectators that I'm saying I'm but at sometimes, well,

but at no, the madrasso, and, oh, my wife, me a message, oh, yeah, too, too, I'm sorry, I go, yeah, and I'm sorry, and I'm in the fourth, me says. So, many things that are inexplicable, bro, or no, I know you, what you think, or what you think of that?

Well, as, as well, you know, because, I said, I'm very sceptic. Really, no, I don't know if I suggestioner, or what was, because, I'll tell you, I'm just to, I mean, this no, not, no, it's possible, that it's that there

something when no it's your fear, even I'm also I'm even I'm I'm also

like stress or paranoia of that we we're incerated for the pandemic I said well

maybe it's maybe it's I'm I'm just I'm just I'm just but after that's all

so Paco that that no he could graber me and I'm there

I'm the camera it's it's and that so and that my

ultimate remedy for So, so to say to say, now I'm going to say, yeah, no I'm in peace, yeah, no me met with you, this, all over the normality. The truth is that is, if, if, is, I'm put a to think a much. And I think

that's a clear message of, you know, not you know, that's, you know, that's, that's, you know, that's, that's, even, you know, that's, when when it's, when you're talking to those things, Like, you know, you know, that's abuelita always

you want to their anecdotes and that's something that's not you make with them to get with them or not the

not they're not they're not, because they're that even they have been an appearance

very inoffensive some, some even some are a little feytos because are a very

very careful. So, so are things that the theme is very fascinating as the

same as the time what you do you what you do you I'm, I'm

I'm a good of this and is what me, fiat, it's like my

maldition, Paco, of that always that I'm going to be a person, that I'm going to be

the camera, I think even I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to a photo,

even when there's a accidentes, I, I'm sure. So, I'm a photo,

I'm a photo, grab a video of what so, see, I consider I consider I

I think the, now, the practice, the practice, the ability, the ability, to grab

rapid, no, for a photo? For example, when you're going to be to beas the novios or something in an event,

then you have to rexion. No, so, you know, so it's a maldition that I have to when it's a

about something that when it's a good, to show, that even we got to the first podcast when I saw

the actor of Panta Negra, that's, that's, it's that's that that's a maldiction that I'm

that I can't never let's talk to never let's a anecdote that me passed with the Omnys. We went to

Veracruz, my equipment of the time. We were two chavos and a

muchachia. We went to the port of Veracruz. We went to do not some of the 7,

8 of the night, when it's when it's when it's to come to knowchecer. For this

we're we've been for the liberty, no, we've got to the

carrame the autopista. It's a point where it's pure mountain, the side of the pure carretera and just you know,

you know, you know, you know, so something something that's something me, me, me,

me, me, me, I'm, so I, and, I'm sure, we can't consider it,

those four that we're there's, we're not, so, so, we know, we were, that was,

that was, not of the time of the coach, it was more, like, like, the ventilator,

for example, that was, like a medium-meter radial. A radio of 45 centimeters, more or less than round? Redondo? Yes, redondo. And I was, of what?

Of what? The color were the lights, way? They're rojas and marillas. I remember that they were rojas and marillas. So, what I thought is that was that was a drone.

For the medium in the way we're maybe it's a drone. But I discarted that possibility or that theory because I said, well, I'm

going to 100 kilometers per hour. The drone, that's very, very, very good. And apart, a drone can not be for a time.

For that's... For that. Yeah, so, I'm talking that's about like five, 10 minutes

in what he was, he'd, I'd, and I'm going to tell to you to them, oh,

look, see what's what's here around of us so, so, so,

then I think, it was it was so, so, I think, I mean, I think

that like the four we're we're in photography the four did it for

actually that one of the one should we're doing so we're so we're we're and when

yeah was more I'm going to we've been the the canals that are so you

know you know in this time of safra those the canals are up

so we've we've we've we're we're going to let's

back in the ventana for that they're because then just they were

with the Cavesita Observating You go Bajenly And then I'm going And then I'm

So I'm See see You're seeing You're doing You're doing What's even Yeah See if you're

We're All All those Asombrated No And he And so And I

Was the I was the I was The window What video? I'm You know I'm going

You're You're You're I'm You're I'm I'm I'm

So I'm So I'm I'm I'm I'm So, man, so, So, man. So,

no, I'm sure, Paco, no of the four that we've got we've got, but we're

and it's and a re. And camera, I mean, this is the colmo, you know. No, manches,

we. So, so, we know, we've seen like, so it was, it was,

it was, it was, it was over another car, and we're not over we've been

we're allos and, and, unfortunately not see if it was, it had had bad

intentions or good Or, no, we know, we were very tontos, but, I mean, so, over-volve-bollable, us across, we're going, over the air, over the, over the canyles, and never, never, we never, we know, so, they're doing for the fact that, like I went to, well, I was going to. Yes, sure.

Well, look, what privilege, boy, no, ma'am. That is, that is something that I, so is something I'd have been, we, no, I've had taken the opportunity, believe me. but what is what's what's you've got to have you

know, and not like other people who just like they just like it's so they're

for a rachita of minutes so they're like that like that's like that I'm going to you're going to

you're so I'm yeah yeah so one I remember that in a post of

Facebook that put you put you put them put on the unctotas that nobody let's

I mean I mean my my friends my my time in this in this

yeah I confirmed I'm I'm I'm I was there, and she said, what tonto we were, so, no manches,

the trunk of evidence that's chingone, you could have taken, yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean,

I mean, you know, I said, we know, that we're going to go to five, six meters, so,

so, you know, you, you could be, you, but you, see, and you know,

so, and nobody grabbed, nobody, nobody, no, man, you know, manches, the actual,

so, you know, so, when was, when was yesterday, Antier, Antier, Antier. Antier.

Antier. A segidore by the Instagram. He said, I mean, I took a photo. You know, you know,

he's got a photo. But he he's got to in this photo. Here, those who are seeing in YouTube are to be

the image like in TikTok. This is the lunar and he captured this here. It's an

something a little rare. And I send another photo where it a little

more more. So the Luna and it and it can be like a

Destello. You, you want the crack of this, yeah? What can you say? It's a bit edited or is an image that, well, is, a question, I consider that if it was a photo nativa of

his equipment, because no, it's like the edit, but I don't know you what you can't say me, bro. Well, look, Paco, if

you're just, the camera of the Chabo, no is a limpia, as you can't know, so you're just count

that there's distellos both of the light of the luna

and the focus of the uh so the desegos of this

image that he he he's he made or so they're so that

the camera okay of the so not not not

not is it's so is the now now so so

yeah sure accidentally but but but it's a problem

that what was he was Of that yeah something,

for so to say it is it or that's very great or very little, not we

appreciate. But only only it's just a light. Now, we'd say that it

was an Omni or in my case, I don't if you have seen I've seen

centellas, Paco. So, some, bolita of those, and they're going, and

so, so, so, so, I don't me constance, I'm, I'm sorry, nor I see of those

things, but... But in terms of photography, me is saying that the image not is... No, no is edited.

Definitely not not isitated because I think, the camera is a little socia, is a little

grossosa, and it's and the light, and of this thing. So, this, this, for what I

see, is a point of the light. It's a form of the light of, no it I can't

say that it's metalico, that is very very but it's it's it's a loose it's a

light, it's a it's a manche, well I'm manch, then I'm a manned

the name Diego Castillo, that me he was made by media and the reality

is that many people have used to see their cell and some photos and also

I saw some of some that they took to the photo to the moon

to the moon of the sun of that's so you don't you know

you know you know paranormal no no All very classical, very normal, very normal, very, very beautiful. It was a, I think it was an event that if we used. Some of those related with things mysticies and other.

But I think that, of that day, I mean, I'd like to experiment it. Because, you know, it's a sensation, the punsada, the you say, well, if you know what you know, because you know what you know what you're doing? I mean, if it's something good, if it's something bad, or if it's something it's your your head, no,

that's saying, take care with what is going to what you know, okay.

Well, the really is some things that I think you do, many

people, for more that look the logic or the reason to be,

many people, like, like, they're thinking in the because

so there's many things, so I'm very so much

of the thing paranormal but more the thing

of the omnis, because I always I said an

Omni and an extraterrestraises are things very different. A, yeah, a alien is an alien, but an Omni is an object volator not identified. That could be, I know, his founte can be very

variable, it can be a arm of some government, a object of volator that not is identifiable, and then, then a alien, well, we're talking,

we've been with us also the good Roger Sousa. You can pass to visit to your Instagram. I'll invite, the fact, no,

they're going to repenting. I'll take a photos very padrissimas. And if you are the most of the area where we're us up in the city of Waxaca, that we're in the city of Veracru,

we're going to Alvarado, Cordova, orizaba. You can contact them. Cree-a-me, that's a tip-so. You can't do a job very good. You're doing, Roger, in Instagram,

how? Like, as aro-Rock Jerz with G. And in TikTok, as like, as a-ro-Roggers. In YouTube,

even, also, as a-R-R-Roggers. And, this, my page of Facebook, too, where they want to continue me. There I'm more than I'm very much. Perfectissimo,

and, well, you thank you much for to take the time to accompany us, contend us your two experiences. The fact is that me surprised me much the theme of the duende, of, if it's that's really, I'm sure that yeah. And, well, you know, it's been much

semehance with what I've also seen. And, well, guys, this was all. Let's appreciate that you've heard about this capitual, that casi we've got to the hour. We're we're looking very

Pronto in the next chapter. I'm a great salute, a little bit of all those

who are listening. And then we're in the next. Much thanks.

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