EXTRA ANORMAL - El Caso de Posesión Demoniaca mas fuerte de México | Caso Amityville Mexicano

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

En este impactante episodio, Brisa y Moroco nos relatan en primera persona su aterradora experiencia en una casa que se ha convertido en un verdadero ícono del misterio y lo paranormal en México. Desde apariciones de entes hasta la posesión demoniaca que sufrió Brisa, quien llegó a recibir marcas en su cuerpo y levitar en el patio de la casa, esta historia te dejará sin aliento.  Este caso ha sido considerado por la Agencia Mexicana de Investigación Paranormal como el "Amityville Mexicano" y ha ganado notoriedad internacional al ser presentado en el documental "Haunted Latinoamérica" de Netflix.¡No te lo pierdas! Dale like, comparte y suscríbete para más historias escalofriantes y paranormales.  

If you ask you know, if you see with exactly that I'm saying no. Okay.

I know what is what what is what I can't comprehend, what I do I understand is

precisely that I think I and I felt I that that my view like his

mom. Like your mom. Because it was more or less of the age of

my kids. Yeah, when went to pass the situation that my wife that

amannicia in the patio like levita so that's where we're going to be a preoccupate a little

there's there's the form of the way to get a a pastor to be in

the house not couldn't enter no could pass no

he started he started so he started to try I need to try the exercise

to do let's say when I'm when we series, was something that was a lot of that's a lot of

obviously, there many things that not could pass in the series. It's a time

limited. And it is the production did, he tried to retratal what we

lived the house, but never, never is to compare with what

really we've been there. This person said my My husband, at midday, exactly, this 30th, 1 October, you need to say this oration. Starts the oration, at midday, terminate.

And I said, well, I'm just, well, recuptat, reclustate. Cere the eyes, he recosted. The repent, I opened the eyes in black. And I started to say, no-seek, or what dialect or what idioma. Dijom. Differences.

Yeah, I was, I was, I was talking, and I was saying, and me jade-and-and-co, I went, and I went, and I went, and I went, for the Ombudsman, and I started in the body, and no pass about nothing, well, I let's take in the boca, and like, yeah, volve it in the sea. What

How much? To be a episode more of a podcast Extra Anormal. My name is Pacuarias and I'm very happy to be

here with all you guys. This occasion I'm very content family, I'm because this is very special.

Today is with me a person very special. a person I can say that has

lived one of the experiences paranormal more that I have heard

or that I know his case was investigated for the agency

Mexican of an criminal with Mr. So Moodio

and so was so the that also that was led

to one of the programs of Netflix that they can

this type of anecdotes and stories Haunt of Latin America. The day of today

we are we we're talking about the person the protagonist of this legend, of this that's

what I entuced me entuced me is the to know the the vivencia, know how

is this process, how they were doing the things, and the really

value that's to get until the final of this episode.

Today is with Brisa Ramirez. How is Brisa? What Paco, thanks for the invitation.

Thank you for accepting the invitation. Of really, no knows the honor that you do make you, as well as all the family in this moment. The case of Brisa, we're going to that's one of the most

fertes. So there are situations that pass with the people that live in experiences paranormal. There is where we also we know if it's

real or no. Because the people that have an experience real are experiences that you mark for your life and very difficult it costs

express it or to tell it to the people. There are people who do you, I have experienced but the real experiences

many times oh no in all the cases but so many times the people don't want to have been they're scared

or so they're co-bidos. So I can't feel like that. And you thank you. I'm very

of your heart of your heart. That's I think it's the first that you have done.

Yes. It's the first. Much thanks. Before to start, I'd

like that for the people who you know, you know, you know, does a context of

who are you and your social. Thank you. Well, I'm Brisa Ramirez.

I'm and my radio social is Beatrice Ramirez Writer M.X. Perfect. We're going to start, Brisa.

The truth is that is one of the cases, I've been investigating well, and really, let me say, that is surprising

what someone can get to live in a house. So, so this case, for the

Agency Mexican of the Investigation Paranormal, is cataloged as the Amitibil Mexican, so,

before this, you had a experience, we told us you, that you you think, that at the

more influio for you have more sensibility to the phenomenon. You can't talk?

Yes, first that I want to say, that what I'm going to say

here is what I live. Not it, we're, like the fact,

because many people live or experimented or they're experimented in different form. So I expressed practically

my experience and what that's my understanding. Before of what happened in this

house, I had a surgery very complicated in the where I went in chirofano.

I'm desprended and I think that a part of that experience I'm to have

this sensibility for these things. and what I know in that house

precisely. We can talk about how is like commonly they say that you die from

a certain your your heart your heart your heart I'm going to talk to I was

so I'm so it was a maybe a way so I'm a beginning

because I don't understand I'm I'm completely I I heard

what said in the cell of the surgery. I saw all the people

that were in when I was anesthesiated Oh, you're seeing all? Exactly.

The sound was like if was under the water was

not very clear conform when they were passing the seconds

it was much better and it was more and

it was a experience very really was something that

that had very clear in my mind that was what was what was the but when I

was I was I was I was that I had seen I was I was

I said I said one of the infirmary because I remember much that

there was a music had they used they used a music normally and

he said they had a song of Camillo and and

me I asked, is that how is possible that you have been that anesthesia? Sure.

So, then I reforced that if really had succeeded that's desprendiment.

Wow. Something that I can say and confirm, like a person that you

have done an operation is that I'm the last that I'm in camilla or start in

a type of a type of a car me put something that cover a boca and naris?

Yeah. It's the last that's the last I remember. Really, your body is totally dormied and

me impression to know that you in this state, you said, basically conscientious, that's

incredible, it's impactant. After this, this, this sensibility to you, you know,

you're that something that's more sensible, perceptible at the situations and events

paranormal. tell me how it's a story how it's how you get in that house and what you're in this house I took a divorce

a little complicated and this house was was exactly in that for you or for me finally we finally we're my my kids and I we're very content

no because then we just had in where we're we went to live there to this house. It was a new. It was a house that was a house that had been

been abated. But if it was in a zone in where anteriorly there were many many times. Okay. Here in Monterey?

In Apodaca. Okay. So, so it was very very well normal, but when it was

to go, it was at the two I started, more or less. Yeah. I started to, see, and to hear

and to hear certain things that in a I didn't know. I imagined that they were

the or the the same the same or moved the But, but conformed

the time and I confirmed that they were when I started that's going to that

someone is And I was preoccupated because I was alone with the children. The children are in the night and

they're playing. So, they're a series of success. That's the night? In the

night, yeah. What noise you were? So, so you were the things, like

if were the the kids of the children, I was used to get to get to

and they're very little, and the kids they used in a canasto

because you know the the kids, they'd have all the jugets re-reled, so they'd put in a canast and they'd put in a

cell in the cell. When I was when I'd get to get in the morning, I'd be that the

toys were in the, in the sillon. Okay. And I said, the kids are up,

they'd ask, who was who was playing at night, and then, then I'd have to

talk, no, I don't know, so. Wow. I'd I suppose. My mind, always trying to give you an

an explanation logic, if they they're going to they're going to say. And for me did something because we're

only ones. If they're they're going to open the door, I know, even that's with a key, it

was something I'm preoccupied. So, I'm going to put a in his, in a room, a rickita

for that not they were so they were but they're going to passing. So, confirm that

not are them. So, so there was when my mind started

to patina practically because I wanted and I didn't know,

I didn't know, and the things just were to be, it were

to start to put more physical and, you see, in my

case, and in my case, and in my case, yeah, Oh, okay. They'd amazia with

marcas, I'd start out of my house, I said, in the patio of the other, like if I would have been up until, I, I mean, I'd know, I'd, you know, I'd to go ahead.

Uh-huh. Despertable's in your patio? Espartable in the patio. And I'd expectable, and I'd, with the hands, up, uh, and when I'd

I'd start about, me dolead much. That's, that I said, that I'd say that I'm a good time in this position. So, then that's I started to really, because

I said, I'm not I'm being conscious, even of my body, and I don't know what can happen. I lived with two

children, and they were to experimented things. Things. I said, that they were that they were

a person in the ventana that no they'd do you but

aterrados that's me me cause much impotency because after

something you know what you do you do you do you do you do

my name is Arturo Palas my call Moroc since

many many I'm working in the media of communications

and well my Reds Social is Moroco Palacios official in YouTube and the rest of the Reds, Morocopalacios, with a C, there's people that put it like the country. And, well, we're doing content a little more of entertainment, no, it's more to what I'm, to do you, all of that's what I'm doing. Getting to this point, my I'd like to talk of, you know, the theme that

really me impacted much of the that you your family

lived in this process the famous know how was

how you you what you what happened in what happened how

were very very polemic in a circumstance that even

more later we we can let me what was that I don't

so because I was in the I was in the job, I absorbed a much time, but to my husband was the

that was the more, also also also there with the children. Well, there's manifestations, no, in some, even markers in the

body, yeah, things of there are, there's, lights, and more tard abackas,

without that there's, there, there in that in that zone of the, in that zone of the house,

It was It It was More Ferté The One To try to

To find out of The Explication No We We were A night And the day

The day The next The day I was I was I was Ohy Oh, well Is that

They were They're They're They're They're And And you And

And you Confies It's There's He pegas and and us grita to the

window to the the room so how he's he's a car

he was a car and was a colony that was relatively new

but a a colony popular conflict yeah said well

he said a man he's he and he and he and

he he's going to come to come back we he

did the same he could be possible that might

be and the Barda has, no I don't know how many meters of

high, it's impossible it's something something something when my husband starts to

have some in his body, some marks in the body, even colmillos

they grew and I said ah car that is something

that's a very strange. That part I remember that I remember that I commented

that he's that I said I think that if was that a

person a man that was and was a person at the person at the situation

of the situation of the problem is that they were the problem is that no not,

not it was not an human exactly because I in that what I did I

was going to get to my court but they they're they're they're

they're that they're they're they're they're they're they're

And I always trying to calm because they were very little and I didn't that they were in a little sure.

The first we were actually running from there my kids and we went to live at house my mother because

because they started the things more the things there was there was a business

I was so I so in this occasion to me had terminated the gas was a gas

of a cylinder and he I said when when it was in the carmion of the gas and he said no

my son no no pass the end of a end of a thing and he has to

go to the station but but for me it was very difficult to charge of gas so I'm

so let me let us to the house of your abelita and the

Monday we we're we're back for the car the car So, So we said

The Vecina me said, I'm looking because my husband he presented a carmionette in the job and I said

we'll help to help you to the house. He said, but I was talking the window and

his little never turned. She said she said that was the little in the

salon and the piece and that I was talking the the window and that the the little bit of

and that she said he said to be to be in the house and I went. Obviously I don't I said

nothing to I don't ask you because this not is like in the movies

that you grittas and so no this really you really you

really you don't you know your reaction is yeah you paralyze

that that that was there was one of the spirit

They were three. They were three. They were two Entes that I perceived malos And a little And a little That was

I'm trapped So I'm I cheered a little The voice Because I felt I felt all the sensations

of that His suffering Exactly Is it? I know So, No No

It's my Apertura Or my Sensibility That's So it's so so.

Some raffas of sentiment or this but no I don't I don't I don't

I'm not something so it's a sensation the sentiment and there

and there and there there's that is that's that comes of them many

many sometimes so it and this so we confirm in many stories

those spirits infantes that have cases and many

years trapped there. It's like if they're in a space or time

atrapados but their story is very in the majority of the cases.

There are those little pass the better in those cases in a form

very tragic to a man of his parents to families, to

families and even that many times are in

those people are in the people nobody doesn't find they

they're in houses but there is the essence and

is where the people see to these spirits dambular

so as a so you you you don't

you you I don't you know I know

what is what what so because no I don't have that,

well, that ability. Yes, that don't. But what I can understand, what I do I can't to comprehend is

precisely that that are that are trapped, and trying to give that, that, that's

that explanation. And, I, I, I felt I, that that that was, like,

like, like, as a mom. Like, because it was less than the age of my kids.

I was generating a vincol with you. Of the three spirits that were in

your house, yeah confirmed, how was your approach with one?

With the little was a very exactly. Yes. With I,

I was I perceived me to see that he was a protection. His

mom. And the others those they were they were in

the of the bad they were bads how you're how you

this part of you that you talked about in a principle that many

we're we're we're we look we what is what is what is

what is what is the majority of the many of the

explanation. But when we get us to the fund of the case, and you get discarded different

options and we don't we need more to say this is something a supermently a

experience genuinely paranormal. What started to do you in your head?

When you were to work what you were you was that she she

she not I don't preoccupar me or not, um, this, you know, this, you know,

this is there after I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a pass that he's yeah in the car, and the

new people, and then the show, and there was there the bayon, no, and the light and the door

aberted, and the feet of the little, and the door, and they said, and they're in the door, and

then, well, he saw that, he, and, he, you know, the, you went to the quarter, I said

that when they were to get the window, they were they're in the

door. I don't go to go to the way. How do we? And the

fire the fire and the door and the door is to say that you

had only a phenomenon because the children said that they were

a man. Your wife saw a see a guy

a so how how many funer was the conclusion of the

case? is that when I went to pass the situation that was like my wife, that mannedia in the patio,

so it was where we started to preoccupied a little. There's, there's the form

of, no, to get a to get a house. No, they were in that.

What was? Why? No, he was, he was going to enter to the house. The

sacerdot? The sacerdote to, to start to be to start to, no could pass

to the door to the No, it could pass, no to pass and so he started

and so I'm going to get to try the exerate the exercise to say

he called. Yeah, no rexed. We told us that you

you began to have certain certain things strange uman

umeneas in other place happened something was a more with

markers, the children me said things that I did but I didn't

remember. So, also that also me caused quite a lot because

in what I said, in what moment I said, I was managing managing my body

because it was I don't remember when many things that they said that I said even

that I put aggressive with them and that I'd dole a lot of because

in the series for us for us for us for us because this was a

thing we're we're we're much. For how much that we were very

many my children my kids and obviously I I wanted to cut

this theme because I wanted that creciar in an environment

of fear and I try to the most possible apart them after

after we we're when we went to Netflix they're they're they're

they're we know we know we didn't not even too

because we've because we had been so this thing and

I was when I did agredia. You'd be a other person? Yeah.

And I no recall that. So, the listening that I could have

made made to do to my children, is very very. And is that there

are there there are of the women that that

standing in a situation spiritual or in a possession have

done things have done many We've talked about the time and all the

life of the cases of Cladiam Hamos that for me is one of those cases

and there are other more where parents mothers in the nights

are other people are they're in animals besties because not

they can another other because agre to his own

his own their some in a form that brutal

and and when they reactionan they're they're that's

that's you don't I'm I'm I'm not I'm so it

was quite for me to hear of my my kids

do you have said something that has said yeah well

that they was I used about words sometimes

they they're not you didn't you when you

when we're you're completely different different. So, they were perceived there like someone aggressive, that

always was that, even that I got to, even that I got, and it was something that I was not, I don't know with that. No, zero. But, in dar me

that, that I did, me, me, me, I don't, when we were in the series, it was something that was something.

Obviously, there are many things that that not could pass in the

series is a time limited and it is the production

he tried to retrates what we live but

never never is to compare to we live

there right right so when when you get

to this house the first sometimes there certainly

there certain things that us make that something that's some cases are free some other

houses, like you have you have a style of and there people who say,

I don't have no, no is flojera there, there's a

there's a in our body that many many sometimes we limit to do

things, so makes that we cost much work summed to the manifestations that can pass

something something and is that in this case those kids were those first in start to be this manifestation

were they're they're just this happens because as being the more more times they tend to be more vulnerable

and then after your husband what was the more what was the most with your

kids? I think was that. Yeah, then we had the most little,

he was, he was, he was, he, he, he, he was a car,

was very, was very little, I think, I think, he didn't know,

but I think it was that, no, yeah, the other started to make

manifestations that we did we didn't, we, we're, my esposa,

yeah, after, a mark, a cross in the front. How was that he said a cross in the

front? Desperto? Of a and in the part of the rinions, in each one, a mark

like of one boide, perfectly symmetrically. Yeah. In the part of, and as it

had been with a raguio, like with raskunos. This, and it and it was

where we we're, where we're we're, we're, we're, we, family, a prima,

he said, oh, there's a woman who's a woman who can't do you, he can't do, you know, can't do, um, a job or help us with that. Sure.

We asked, this, a photo of the house from the part of the outside. Yeah. Um, the,

we, she let, she let, send us, that in the photo, there were in somebs,

uh, inside of the house, when no, there was nobody in the case? So,

so, in the photo? She captured. That photo can't be to share? Yeah

no we we're we're we're we're okay of the

of the we're to the person and so it was a camera digital

and he he was in a disc duro and I I had

made this respald those respals came After that's After that

When we're To startlecerns Because so we We're called us When you're in a house, the events not is that

They're they're in a form impactant They're They're in a form very suave And you just

You just Confirmar Some Riddos Some pecanas Visions Sombras Sombras for there, but this

is going intensifying to a a degree for example that you you know, comments that

you had to start in other other place this was that it was like you said I didn't

do you know did this you know, you're doing a form extrana. What more

started? Amneseed with with markers Yeah and the aggris in

some in a occasion manacy with two oboids in the back. Very symmetrical. The two exactly don't know what are.

I don't know how me came. But if my health was very deteriorated. Yes. I was

a very and always can't like if not descansar in the night. So, then

it was more than when the things were physical. So, we went to the house. We came from there, because I understood that something

that I could manage and that I was only with two men. And I went to live at the house of my mother, another, and so then, that a year after, I know Arturo, and we're going to

this house. Arturo, I know had, he had talked very levy. Yes. For the same, because I know these things are with pincitats.

Yes, yes. that one is the difficult to tell us because

you know you're not going to do you know, I always have thought that this

will be that he is going to and that those that really get to study or

investigate this type of cases so so for that was very very levy

what I had talked when you when you you you go to the

house for example in those two occasions that you

you you The things were calmed I remember that one

I think I'm I'm going to run the house but there

was a storvable the and I wanted and I went to commission

federal so so so I said try me a photo of the

where is the where is where so we're so we're

talking that the house was so so I'm so

I'm taking the photo not me because obviously I didn't

We don't want. And he said, like, and said, like, oh, you know, you do do you do your house,

and the bad is that he said, and he goes, he said, in the night there's a light, and

they're in music, but in the madrugat, but we we had almost two months

to not be in the house. So, so, so, And commentaries of the bestiners that the

health of when I was in the door and he made the but I'm not so

we're you know, you know, you know, many many times the children are

the children are even sensible to this and at a certain points vulnerable

apart to see a this man that came to

the thing was a more more with no

no tried in all the time of to guard those but it was

only that I think I I think it was with me the the agriety

for part of the docents major I think that was with me how you

you know you did because you told us well, that for the job, for questions

laborals, you'd you go to your journal laboral, you're going, how you know,

you know, how you noticed, so what was what you to make to do you to sendier

this alert. The really is that I'm going practically all the day. I'm in the

morning, in the madrogada to the people to get to to get to my

parents to get to the family, and my wife and my And I was in the time. And I would have, she regained for the

house in the time. And I'd have rexed to the night. I practically was they'd be adorned, both in the morning and as a night. So, for that I don't know of many things. And you did you? Do you live something in the house? No, until the day final. What happened? The day final, this, we're

in the porch of the house, in the front of the house, and we had the monitor this, for the baby that was done in the apartment. And there were the two, the two, the young

with his amygdus oh, yeah, well, this, is that is that we're in the school,

and we're going to look to get to get to the mountain and they're to help, and I'm

to get with the kid, and I came to my wife's the lastimed a tobillo and I came to and cockeeating

and all because they were to talk to no, yeah, we're going to do. And in

the monitor, it's to hear like some the voices.

And then one of the other of the people, they're they're doing caricatura

or what? Because they're some of the little, or the tele is prepped

and the man, and the little and the voice provenia of the place where was your

baby? In the monitor was that was the origin was the first of

the car, the of the boy and me to the table ap

the table an interference. Are there an apparatus electronic so oh,

of a rite oh, yeah, I'm just no, nothing, dormied, yeah,

oh, so he's so, oh, so it's like a, a revert, to be,

to be able to, and then when we just, we know, we know, but, yeah,

we've been to revisit and yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, it's,

yeah, it's, it's, um, it's oscure and I start and

my my wife my wife is in the quarter the tuchitts are in the little of your

time and I remember and I remember and I was the most little that I was

on the porch when I was when when I was dark I said

we're going to go and I want to get to get to get to his

back he recoges his and he says, no, no, what, what, what happened? He'll cargo. And I'll try the more large, and he'll try with a collet and there was absolutely nobody. And the little, I mean, I was here, with his bracitos, here

with me. And I'm going to go to my husband, you know, that's, you know, I'm hailed the hair. And no, I'm saying, look, and you, a carrito of the little, moving just for the end, and then you know, you know, you know, you know, so you know, we're going to, get those the kids, get those in your

coche, you at house to my pap and I know I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm in this moment when you

you know you a get a because here I mean I'm

to recall when a spiritual call let me call

what you call a spirit of a a demonio

something that simply is a spirit take the power

to to talk your matter to lastimart or halartre or hallartre

of quite form we've been of an entity that you have been the

sufficient as far to be to agreder physically in that moment that you

have suffered all this aggression that of another or other form yeah

you see this as your person what was the

action to how Lidian or how they're to be in this in this

point fiatie that I see I'm a little more how we we can't say valemadrista

a little more this how I can say this imprudent could be because

well I said well I protect my family vaidence and yeah I'm

I'm I'm going then we then we we're going because we're we're saying we're not

we're to get my house and we're and we've other, other

house. His family knew what was going to do you know, okay. Yeah, then I said

my wife, oh, well, is that I'm to go to get for some some things that I need.

Well, we're going and my parents and my brother. We're going to the house and

then we're all the papers, yeah, I'm still yeah, we're all right, well, we're not,

we're just we're going, so they're and, I remember that we we've got we've done,

we're all practically there, no, We had a pecerer, a peasecest, when we came, that not were many days, because I, of the chican, I was with the motorcito functioning for the agent. Yeah.

Seca, without water, and without rastros of empeze. And I said, ah, carie. Because, you know, best there, the skeletonito or something. Yeah. nothing when I was I was

I was going the lot of the lot of and whatever that could do you could be able to

you could have not and I was and I was the quarters yeah yeah we've got

all of my husband and then I'm just with the look at me said

I'm saying I'm going to hear to be the patio and then I'm and then

I'm he'd go to I'm to go to get to he was so very

intensive I said, uh, this, I said, yeah, yeah, this is going to put a feo, no? He started to look at humedat, all the house of repentinament. Yeah. And I said, no, let me go, don't know,

we're going to go ahead. We got a light in the rostro. I was up to the car. And I said, you, you're going to, I'm going to do. I'm going to get, I was with the lorough of

almost insupportable. And I was sent me So, so, like, molesto, no? Ciarro the door, I'm, I'm to go to,

my, my, my, my husband, with the rostroro. And what's the thing I,

I think that I'm the rostro, the air, the air calient, that we feel, the air,

we get, let me, I, I, I'm, and I'm , and I, and my wife,

let me, let me, and the auto, so it's automatic, it was automatic, it, no, it was, it,

no, it's, it's, and it's, And I despera a little, and I said, wait, okay, and I'm a little bit of the auto to two cars. I'm a two cases

more than and I was in problems. While I was close of the house, no I didn't I didn't,

no, I'm a two, three houses more ahead, prendo without, and we went, and we said,

I need, I need something of the house, well, I go, I'm going, I'm, let me,

we're, we're, we're, for, for, for, for, I was

the pecera had water I don't have that's that's impossible

that's the is the that's the same that I when I'm when I

start things to get to the car and this I

got a a carito me they they're they're

they they're in the man I'm they go over and me

they they're they're they Because in the photo, they're two people are very high and a

little. Three entities. So is. And I said, I'm a little. That's a little

innocent, no? That's not. I don't know because I was there. And I said, here's the car and I go.

He said in a sillon. And I, well, I was, um, ca I, uh,

some, uh, some, I was, there was a lot much air that's

something very strange and some a little door and I'm I'm went and

I'm I'm back the car was in other other little but

we're just we're we're in front and they started to move solas

that that was the most the most the most that's that's

that's that agression and the manifestations when I went I'm

basically basically were out a little, of this house. Well, getting to the

things a little. Yeah, we went to that same night, yeah, we're going to go to

in that occasion for the papers, but yeah, after I was only I for the things.

Sure. What was the most strong? That you did you to live, standing in

that house? Yeah, you know, you know, that for me is very very the time

to act to form voluntary, things rare. I go, the The aggressions, for me,

yeah is a point of alert because the entity that is the force to talk your material, to talk your body, cause a damage physical. But even so,

passed things more fervous, I've seen. It was after that for a third occasion, we went, because the

things were very, very bad. Yeah, the aggression, to Arturo he was to turn. A me

also yeah it was a little, we've, we've, we've, we've been, we're

also, he and we were much because I'm, he was very tense as if were a little,

and he was farra with us and he said, you know, we're going to come

here. And we we went to live, but this had in a occasion,

in the house of my Sveira. But I still very bad. It still a mal physically I felt I'm

I'm I'm not I'm I'd I'd I'd I'd

much and it was when by the of a Tia of

my Sueger me said why don't go with a person

that that can't that can can that she can can

and a little incredulous of these things but in my desperation I said I'm going to help because I

practically was being being incapacitated for all I was in a a thought

a and I went with and she and she could see and she

that was that I accompanied something I remember that when Entren, no, no, me I was, I was, I was, I was

seeing, a, a my homebr, no? Yeah. And, and, I, see, his, his, his, I mean,

of, I mean, and, he said, I mean, he said, I, I mean, I, they were, they were,

vinculated with you. So, then, then he started that, that were, what I've

seen, I've seen, that I, yeah, that was, the, that was, the,

and, this, and that there was a form of to quit

because it's it not only just the house it's with

you're for so you're that's she she she

she she a through a through a through

some some that practically was back with they're

seven one for every day and he accompanied

of a person okay I didn't be to be alone.

He had to be accompanied of someone more, someone more, but I'm and other

doing the other doing the in that in that process was my mother

was my father was we were we're doing all the process of the seven days

and in the last day was when I this I don't remember

what I'm but certainly Arturo he could tell and

And he was in the series, and my Suegra also was the who saw the time. In the seventh day, when I'm going to, I'm I'm going to be in a kind of a trance, let's say, and I'm going to

say, and I'm going to understand. Arturo says that, like, like, they're in other idiom, and that I'm going to say, to say, to say, to say,

something like, unuhed, molest. Malditions. Exactly. So, for him he said that this

was like an intent of possession. Yeah. That's quite pretty

pretty very. Sure. And my mother was the who worked for the

Blahe and that was what he brought. Again of the regress. Yeah.

Of this I don't remember, I don't remember to have been disoriented, and

yeah, after me talked about what had succeeded. I have a question. I said a

minute, you know, that's doing about in the head about, you said, you said,

to the little clasiered colmillos? What? The clums were the

superiors? But I, the first I don't know me because if it's the comions

a little more grownos, but, you know, they, they had a little

more. Of, In fact, I think of that if I have photo. Yeah. Because she can't see

like the like the like the is a photo that with the people with the disfrasated

for Halloween and all. So, like it's like me kind of kind of but

he passed that's the on the front and the marks in the back. There the there was

your husband. So it was like with her was this connection? Because when

when when when me that he works with angels, he passes a a, a jabon prepared to

to bathe her and that's my brother and my prima. When they're in that they're not recall if

did it's in an oration because I know I was I don't know I was down of the man and I

have. So, he's got a very, very, very, very long,

in the mouth, a a little very, and this, so, so they're

so they're, and he said, and I want to possessor. So, is it

about that she got to have to have to a possession a

complete or was like a influence that that was that there

is not to explain no I ignore of that things

or the type of characteristics and terms but when when it

gets the the time of Halloween the day

31 of October this this person said to a mid

day exactly this 31 October, you have to say this oration. But it has to be someone

to be in this time. We were in this time. We were the facility to get the more more rapid of the

time and start a little and I was I'm I'm in the part of the house my mom

was down with the little with the other kids to my son's the and to my

children of and to my kids of the And it's the oration, at the midday, terminate, and he asked, how do you feel? And me, he said, well, recuptat, and, well, reclustate.

And, well, I said, cero the eyes, he recosted. The repent, I broke the eyes in black. And I started to say what dialect or what idiom.

And there, I, there, I'm sussed. Dijolengue. Lengue, and I was, I was talking, and I was saying, and me,

jadeando. I don't I didn't anything if it was Latino or I don't know the

but I'm I'm sorry and I'm Momah is that Betty he's put mad and you know

is that I'm and I'm don't have you have a bad in the cajonda

I went I'm I'm going to go ahead and I started the and I'm

and I'm there's in the well I put in the and it's when you when you

when you're when you how is your process of the thing? She me

offered a ritual to say a through of those liquids that practically

was to be in one for every one for every day and he accompanied

of an oration okay no I'd be to be to be accompanied

to be to be and I and other doing the other in that process

was my mother that was my father was we're doing the process of the

seven days and in the last day was when I don't remember what I did this

I don't know but certainly Arturo he could tell you in the series and my

my sonora also was the who was in the seventh day when

they're they're I'm going to I'm in a kind of a kind of I'm going to say, and

I'm going to talk about things that we're saying, Arturo says that's like

they're in another and that and that I'm to know to say, to say

to say things like unhada molester maldiction so so. So,

for he says that this was like an intent of a position yeah

that And that's quite pretty very pretty And my my

mother was the she was the godbe and that was what he brought

another back again. I don't remember I don't remember to have

been I've really really really can't but disorientated

and and then after me talked about what had succeeded it's normal

to have this agotament physical because these entities malignas absorbent

your energy and when they're in this internet is that when you you're not you're not

you yeah this used to your body and normally one of the characteristics

very very strong is that you start in languages in languages latin Hebrew

Arameo and it's a type of a language the people never know

what you're talking but I can interpreter like the entity was so

it was with what they were trying to do. Desprendal of you. And it was

like a regano or was like a state quiet. A advertency. When

stood your husband with us he said a little very

very very. Levita in some moment? How was that? In the

patio. How happened? I was not, I was not

was on the the earth. They were Centimetro But

No, I was Talking The Piso Was the day? No, in the night In the

No, your husband You know? Yeah. I was What did he when he?

I I was I was in the moment in the he I

He I And I And I And I I I sent where

I is that this is like a point, and to do you know, Brisa, in the little that we've investigated in the things of possession,

of persons possesses, the people get to have to have changes physical, notables. It's like if you were you,

but extrana. Because there things, there are things very particular Particular is that

do that the people think that you're different. There are certain rasgos more marked.

But there certain things that they will become impressive and a case and a

when you romp all the laws of the physical as the power

levita. That that for me is a thing very very very

because we We're about that the entity that is very, not only can't talk, it can't lift a body, a energy that is invisible, has sufficient power

to do for a job that even for someone physical, he costs a force, and this is a lot of, it's a thing a very strong. Yes, Paco And many

times they're Oh, why? I mean, they're they're the

house Yeah desprend to your patrimon and with all and the

tass of coffee in the table in the mess, it was because

we've this very very very very. Something that

until right Paco I know I don't I don't I

know what was what so so so Without, without

thinking that this could do to do to our family, to protect to our family, we don't

we're not we didn't we're in the house. There was a reaction, well,

there's two reactions more in your body that I'd asker to ask you.

We're about we're about a cresimient in your dents, in

your colmillo and a cross that was you mark in your front.

Yes. You can to you can't talk to? It's something that I can't talk about Paco. Of the

actually it sounds very fantaciosio I'm I don't you know. No, you think there

are people that this will be very fancioso or that not you don't know

because I don't know I don't I'm I'm still trying to understand what's

there was there was a market in my front that was mark and

cicatrised and she would be going to get a cross inverted there

there there there some there some photographs but

curiously when we were looking for the series never

he never he he was he came the

the role no they were on the computer okay

so curious that day that I used and also also in my colmills there was a that not

normal and I had to cut them limer the dentist so you had to recurrier

to the dentist to put to return to the normality how how

how conclude the case they're they're they're doing a

the house, the house if the house, I don't, the repos,

I'll don't, you know, so it's good, for that question. My

cuneado, my brother of my wife, and he paid to the house. And my

wife, and my is, but it's not, no, no, it's a year, because he

got to pass to me in many, many, many, many, many things. And I'm

there, there's the house. There's the house. Then then a

other one of they're they're they're not. It's a little

and he went to go to go to another other other later.

Then there questions of of a repente yeah was like

they're like a office but but so not much a

many many years me contacted for Facebook a

one a she I had I in the Hey, you guys live in, in tal,

tal, tal, yeah, there we've, and said, I'm, I'm still, I'm, in serious,

I'm my wife, and I put in contact with her, and I said that's, he said, that's the

of the little of the other entities, no. Okay. Of course, I think my my wife

I'm talking to the case, to Mr. Samudio, and also they'd there, but yeah,

no, did, In fact, I go, the house, there's because I said at the first that was something that was

a lot of in Monterrey when when it's done to know that the that's going to

the series that was the chapter and said a house enbrugated in the Podac.

The people thought that was a case of a house that there was

an incident with a tragedy and that now is a school but no,

no, has absolutely nothing to do with that. It was, it's,

it's, it's, it's, polemic because, like I work in television,

yeah, you know, and we're contracted actors, and no, we're

only we're to talk to talk. Sure, they started on videos of

that, yes, we know, they're, because that not in the case, and I

know, and that the people was the house that came in the series when we went

to we went, to make the interview, to interview first

here, the Mr. Samudio for separate to us, we interview the people after

after the people after we're going to yeah, and we're separate. Yeah, at the moment

of the interview for the documental there was some things very rare. So, it went to the

light in the set in a part of occasions. The vellas that had in the scenography

began to change the form of the fire a times more Salta more

more there's there were various manifestations and you I'm not very polemic

because the people is that that is that is the real house and this is a real

a story new because even when when it was made that it was new stories and not

only only it was the of us were the other people of different parts of the

republic Mexican and I think some some some and it was there

was there was there Like, like, no, no, no, because it's Morocco and Morocco's in the television and they're, they're, they're, they're

actors, but I'm part of this history, yeah, I've been talked in a part of occasions. Yeah, and for that's I said, look, there's the history, I've got to tell me, before many years,

not complete, but what I've had passed to me, there's the, there's the problem. It's that many times, the people think

that because we're not, we're, we're doing to, uh, to medes of communication, no, well, is that's that

I mean, I have a paper. That's, not us, not us exempted to, to live a experience

paranormal. So, we know, we're we're a lot of times, but at

final of the way private, we have family, we have children, we know,

this part of privacy, not, where also, then, then, so, in this type of

situations. The house day of today to continue, it's, but if for some

reason, you, you'd would, you'd, you'd you'd I think that

yeah no going to happen nothing or like it's

a a rastro of the past no for that

the thing of the past I think for me no

I don't I don't to a final of

it was a moment you you didn't you did

you got a much fear there there there

was you just yeah no I don't I

don't for me no. For me, no. I was what that's a preoccupation. Precoupation for my family. For your family. Yeah. Because if you were I felt a fear, I don't regressable. Sure. I don't me, I would have

been confronted, no, me was insulted, or not? Yeah, I've done to do other type of things, no? Many times, I mean, I'm my father, well, we're always, well, we

put this part, no? So, no, is what occurra with me? That's I always, I'm just, I'm so, no. Here, the question is my children, my that they're my priority if there's

something that something that is going to you know so we're we're going to we're going and then we

want to say a question Brisa when you did this you're doing some some type of

limpia she did this dispreendiment look I'm what I can understand

all this is that the fear the terror is the food perfect for these senses. Yes. My

my my, I can't for that, I wanted to know how. No,

I didn't an explanation complete, but I think that the

more more more, more they were more, more they were so. So,

I began to put to other type of energy to my the happiness, the love, the compassion,

all this has mermed much to that these entities can manifesten with the potency in the that they've manifested in that house. Okay. That's been your formula.

Yes. To liberate. And also to have compassion with these entities because they're that, ohio, no, no is the

absolutely what I'm going to say, what I perceive. So, are the ones that are trapped. And that not precisely is because they've been

bad when they've been a body physical. They're in a, in a, well, in a,

like, dimension, or how they're to call. And they're desoos of to get back. Sentilse

alive. Exactly. And, they're being aggressive. So, then, to be

that compassion with this type of deities and and and meditate for them for them

for they can transcend to the light and not to have that that's

very difficult because when it when it when it when it's we're

people our five sense we're going to but but

have also that that It's a very admirable of your part, the fact

the fact of the way of the way of the because many times we're we're doing for the

fear. And it's the fear of those who control many and us

act to do it. But those am I'm much and you to know

to you, to my husband to give you give to say

that I'm sure that probably you say, of a partrimonial. And as you just

to say at the grader to do it the tass of coffee is in the

mess and it's let us for the good of all the and over all

of the most of the children of the is a really and you

know I'll say and I reaffirm of the

most that I have I've When I was in that moment with Antonin Samudio me said, Needs to

talk with her. Because what was shown in the series is kept a short. There were things that

not, not were not and that need to get to the light for that

the people know that there that there that exists maldard that

exist things that can affect to a level supermement impressive

and not only to you, all your entire your entire, children, children,

family, when you when you see, you see, you know, you've got some type

of a sequel, you've you've been more sensible, what happened with you?

They're the manifestations but you not with the same with the

same thing, is sumarle other type of vibration to our

lives, the love, the the , the of the ,

the of the fear, that's that terror, we've helped

much. They're still manifesting things in the new house in

where we know, but not with that intensity, and with that

and with that comprehension. Okay. In some moment, you to

you a religion? No. No. No. I have a communication very personal with God. I believe in God. Okay. But no, at the other way of religion.

Okay. What Ferte in our we've got to give, I really, I thank you thank you very much, that you know, I know that are things very

difficult that many times pass and that it's easy external. With the past of the years, your family,

what was the conclusion of your family, the family of your wife. Well, in quanted those

much as it was like it was a kind of that's unfortunately not not was

traumatic or so no, no, no, no, it's consequences or

something. You think you get on type of sequels? So, for example,

you, you, you've, you've been all in that house, passed, so you

went, you're you're, but that you said, that you honestly say,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm that said, the polvito of this.

No, because before, before, before, after this, my wife is the

most perceptive, of the fact, uh, sometimes we're to some some of the something

and I see something and I hear I, I hear a voice or she's very perceptive of

all that for that. For that for me is something, yeah, like, something

because we have passed on a carterter in a couple of occasions that we'd

we'd we'd a carterer. And we came in the coach and then there was

there's there's there's there there's there's there's there's

there and there and there she'll be a little she'll talk about it took over

something he but I don't see nothing I don't what she what she

what she was a in one a new a carnet at a a one where the

where the where the where the those the where the Yeah. And with a belladour

and so, is that there was a man, it's very rare that there's the vellators there's

there's there's and there and I'm and so and in another occasion

was, we we know we're also we're again in a in a

curve to see it was a curve to the left and he he was

managing and I went to with a co-pilote and was

I'm like I'm there and I said what are doing

those bigitos there? And then he was what is the people,

they're in front of you, no, I'm looking at the front there

was this this type of of the I

don't confess that I know I've seen in

people that don't the don't the don't of the

don't to be to be perci spiritus even even to get

to get to communication with you receive messages messages, you

would you think that your husband has some type of don't for this type of

sensibility that has that has shown. She she me, she

she said when was a young, he was practically died. I don't

see if was a kind of an attack a attack a or something

that they were they were in the ambulance and that practically no, but

I think I'm confused I think it was an operation, I remember. One operation. And I think the question of, how's it

called the anesthesia? And she were revivated. And that from that he, like, that's sensibility. That sensibility.

Now, I'm trying because she was like a factor principal in this house.

At, to have this, well, this channel of this can't, yes, well,

we're a person clave for that that's type of entities busker

an approach more to the I'm a question I'm we're a

episode normally in a lot of stories that we have we've

heard that the people and the people with the type of car

energics is because in the past they've been a event

very very tragical about of derrammation of Sanger Innocente, things

very, very, very, very, fias. In the case of that case,

in some moment, you know, the past that's the past that's true, a lot of, you know,

there but that was that was very that was very profound where they were in so normally

when there are fracionamions new that are that they're scabando and that's and that's

it's because they're they're something yeah well and the authorities they're

but in this in this fractionation that was in a new was not

no no no no he's no we know we

we know we we know we probably probably probably

probably also was a very and, and, and so, but very

tragic because, for some reason, it's still this ente, you know, in that

place. Thank you, I'm sorry, but you have passed very well. Much thanks.

Thank you. Much of the time. Bastant to your social. Morocopalacios official in

YouTube and the rest of the rest of the reds, Morocopalacios. You have a project

to future or something for that you're working for that the people working also

for the for the raillers in a podcast with them with interviews with the people

come to the channel of Frank Skamilla and then retomare some some podcasts

that we we're in this in this Mai for a time for questions of the

questiones of all that sometimes is very complicated coincid there there's a

there a friend I've also I've an experience

a very paranormal normal? No, I've talked about that with him, but when a lot a bit of times

that I mean, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

it's like, but well, then we're then we're just we're doing. Hermann, much thanks for having me.

Thank you. Thank you, thanks to all your team, for for the invitation. Yeah. For receiving me.

Something. Something that you'd like to agree to Brisa? Well, first,

thank you for the invitation, this, and for the, the, well, confidence.

and to all those that are who are who are I'm sure I'm sure that there are

that they're living the same. And that probably they're that they're disorientated

that they know what is to get to get to the people that have experience

in this and I know. And I know that it's very difficult to try

to find a response logical. that sometimes no there is. But try to

understand a little what is this and get to the people that are people that know to find.

Buscar help. And to talk about because just like you said, it's not

it's a reaffirm family and I do I with much respect and I

do respect for this case for this really, I'm because Brisa out of

the series if it was the interview that you had to create

the things, you know does interviews? No. Even a much

people comment about I'm, I'm I'm I'm writing, but I

do poetry. Me said, because you don't make you see,

you're on Netflix? Has a book, not? Is a little

this? You can lucre with that too? And me talked

for to do so many interviews. We've looked much, but I was stopped because still have passed, I've

passed, I've passed more than 13 years. Yeah. But it still still being a

difficult to try to for the much that it's affected. How you felt in this

interview? There were moments tensos? Yes, because I tend to be nervous

but when So when, when you talk these things with someone who knows that that's going to

do with the seriousness, it's different. I thank you. I thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

I mean, much respect for this chapter. Of the real, we know, we don't

we don't have nor we don't know, we're not we're part of the reality absolute.

Platicamos our experiences from our experience, and from our But in the environment personal, and not

precisely, it has to be the way. The things change. Brisa only has shared his experience from his experience, from your experience. And I just can't say, thanks, Briza.

Thank you. Thank you for the confidence, thanks for confiering in us and to be able to this form, because are cases that

really, as justly you say, there far, many times, not it's not to take with the seriedad necessary,

is used to use of the few forms negative and of we're really we're doing

we're much in this channel the respect also to the people that are and that

they're they're their experience because more to be a story is your

experience is your is an very intimate and very real Brisa again

thank you thank you you can remember your networks. Yes,

it's Brisa Beatrice Ramirez, a critor MX. Much thanks, Brisa.

Thanks to all the people who got to the final. I'm a great

a brother and we're seeing in the next episode. Passen

a Bonito. Until the the next bye.