El CRISTO MALDITO Vino Por Mi | Relatos Siniestros de SEMANA SANTA
00:00 Semana Santa for many people significan days of to go to enjoy to but for others are days for guard days of silence and days where there's
00:11 something difficult to explain because many people are sure that in these days the nights are more
00:18 long as the streets more vacations and over all a strange pesadess in the ambient
00:25 from images of santo that are that are when nobody see, even the
00:31 apparition of demonios that are to the way to the death of God. Not are
00:38 only traditions, too, creencers, are histories, are stories, stories that are you that you're
00:44 that you're you're going to be able to. Thank you. What, how, families, be welcome to a
01:25 chapter more of podcast Extraanormal. My name is Paco Arias and I'm happy
01:29 to be in a chapter for all of you family, let's trymos one of the speciales
01:35 I think more expected of all the year. Semana Santa. The Semana Santa, the
01:40 time that really does try in many experiences, many emotions where I try to say that great part
01:47 of Mexico and the world is to this time, many people
01:52 live in things inexplicable and to talk to this time me
01:56 accompany, today for first a great person, a grand friend and that we're not really,
02:01 we're very, we're much with your friend, Ramon Maldes. How you're
02:06 very content? Paca, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you a little your
02:12 grandissimo auditorio and list for to tell stories. Ermano, thanks, of really
02:18 thanks. I'm sure that much people you have seen, because
02:21 you know I said you're a great narrator of stories and all the
02:26 knowledge that you with many legends. Uff, of the real, Armando,
02:30 we're unras much. For the people that you know that you're
02:33 that's first, I'm like that you're you're to do you do you do you
02:38 and, for your projects. Sure, I'm so I'm a writer, I'm a
02:45 story, a narrator, a narrator, I'm a lot, a lot of doing that so,
02:50 uh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
02:54 I'm going to be in a new, also, I said, but I'm a new, of a court of more infantil. But what I'm dedico, basically,
03:05 is the rescade of the legendas, not only Mexicanas, but the legends in general. Sure. Always,
03:12 understanding to the legends as something very important of the culture and the transcendence that have these legends.
03:19 The legends, at final of the questions, we're not some can't many
03:22 things. The are from the most romantic to the most aterrador, those that really can
03:28 have to be a little bit more. And to the projects that I have done, I'm in the social, I'm doing
03:34 that's a time, to be fomentating the legends, the culture, the pre-Hispani- and you said,
03:41 also, we're, a year, a project new, that's a special, the podcast
03:47 of the podcast of the podcast, the podcast, that's a podcast, that we're just a
03:51 general. And we're in that. And I also, Paco, to do you say that I'm very very grateful to
03:57 be very to be able to this moment with you. I know, we're going to get that people who
04:03 listen, see in a grand moment. Herman, thank you. I'm going to this episode.
04:10 Vyance, do a way to do a word for your podcast, for your projects, because you
04:14 also, because you have done so that they're good- for that the people to be able to
04:19 be able to to read. I'm sure that they're to be and I'm sure that you're to be a important.
04:26 Semana Santa is a summer a week a lot of a week in different parts of the
04:34 world in Mexico, in many people. There are stories that we're going to come to here and there
04:38 obviously a part that is going to get in our site web. If you you'd
04:42 want to get to get a very hard that is prohibited so then
04:47 there you know you know that is triplew. Podcastextranormal.com.m.m.k.m. There man, you what do you think is this week? Because there are many
04:59 vertientes, no? In many people of Mexico, over all the whole. And much traditions that are around the Semana Santa, a week in particular, that has its own aroma. And it's an aroma. A-morto.
05:15 I mean, I mean, I was like, I mean, was really is an aroma a a more a moment
05:21 a moment that's very little you know you're what you think it's a
05:27 situation very ambiguous because in the those times we've we're
05:32 times like days like the people like the people and the
05:38 and not we don't we don't know of the profound that they're
05:41 in those days so for all the cemite in general the
05:45 or the religions that are the Semita, and in particular, the Catholic Christian, that is the moment in where this grand
05:55 prophet, this messias, Jesus, the Christ. And this makes that various forces, say, from those very elementals, those that are conceived in the men, no,
06:11 you and I, what we can't create, to others of other type, others that are, say we're of other plans of existence that are
06:20 of the great moments that are in some some like portals in where they're
06:26 there's different things. We have a day very particular that is the
06:31 Biernes Santo, one of the days more complex in terms paranormal
06:35 in terms of the appearances is the day that is the day that
06:41 says the day that's not to not to be to to the Ligeria.
06:47 Independientiment that anyone create or not in a figure demoniac what is that is
06:52 that they're not even can't negate it because you and you and you and so
06:56 they're different matices. In that day, that energy in particular took a
07:01 lighty a bit of a bit of and we have to understand that the consequences
07:05 of those matices that exist can be some really complex and
07:11 supermante intrusive so so much situation that we have to take with with a much
07:17 madurest in all the sense, but more than the maturity of the responsibility that there's because
07:25 they're going things very very firtes. Fidate that we have told stories that have to be
07:31 with this thing and it's important because mention is something, well, vacations
07:36 of Semana Santa in the city, it's very different to how it's
07:41 in some people, evident where the people guardaluto, where the people not says, abstinent
07:47 to go in this case to be in this case to bea because there's there's banyarious, that's there's more fallacements too.
07:57 I was at a point one of my wife and I told the story of my my abuel me said, my bays,
08:03 get it in the house, so, it's a reallycibly and then it's because the
08:09 people end up a prisa, maybe because the people is just is just these vacations but
08:15 pass on things that they're really mark much the rhythm of what has to be with this
08:21 festivity, not? With what is the passion, where it the passion, Morte
08:26 and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Now, so I always say, I say, let me
08:32 tell you a story, but, my man, I'm, I'm a great, I would be
08:37 you, I'm, you know, the entry is an honor, and let me make me make a little parenthesis, nothing more because if I'm saying to all the
08:45 people that we're my padrino. You said, I said, yeah, it's the first time I'm, I go, I go back,
08:52 I'm doing conferences and all this, but it's the first time that I go a new year as a
08:58 creator of content. So, so I'm sure that Paco is my padrino in this,
09:04 and to that I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm prepared some things that I'm sincerely that
09:10 they're at the altitude. I'm sorry. I'm going to thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. The people
09:16 know that's the person that's been part of the people and that's great. I'm honored, man.
09:21 I'm so you know, well, the first legend suede precisely in a Vierna Santo and is the
09:28 legend of the man sin sombra. This is a a legend of a
09:36 person that's in, terminating to do do their activities, a campesino
09:42 that's in a market, this is in sacatecas. The investigations about this I think I
09:51 think I'm documented because they're in Fresnich. Okay. And this this man was out of
09:58 this market and was going to go to a place where he'd his abuel.
10:03 And he then he, then he's his activities and go in the way in the He's a way.
10:07 It's very tranquill caminando. It's the at the light of the night of there's a
10:12 lot of the person, he a person who go to the same room that's a man that a man that
10:18 he had been a man, he could be a little casual, like if he was he was
10:25 educated, and he, well, good times, oh, hello, good
10:28 times, and he's this old, he's this man, no, no,
10:33 you know, common, when are the commons rural, it's better to go to go to and then
10:39 he's not he didn't know the he did a mal-spina in that moment, and he was a
10:44 way, they're going to and they're doing, and they're to talk about things very casual, that
10:52 if the causecha, that's the case, that the price had had been subied
10:56 of some and the other and much, and while they're going to Mattio,
11:03 I'll He to the piece and he's a point that this man not project a sombra. And at the principle he thinks that it's a error, because he went to comeinandau and be his sombra and he be a little bit of a
11:17 side. So, well, at least the sun is down a little bit, they're going to a curvita, evidently, it'll change the perspective, and he pegged exactly the light atras, where had to be a somber, and so-soe. And no project a somber. they're
11:32 but Matteo has kept a little kind of like extraiated about this
11:37 they're and they're talking and they're doing and they know that the pastos
11:44 of Matthew was the piece of the the piece of the class crash
11:49 crash crash and the and the and the pastos of this man
11:52 no he's second alert like what is this that's
11:57 that's that's not it no is a sombra, no can't his
12:00 pathos, and also was used the time. After a time that you
12:05 was coming as normal, you're going to get to be getting to every bit more more than
12:11 more than when it's not we're not quite, so we don't know, and also he's
12:15 still was he's heard a he's a really to put us a little to be
12:21 a little the ultimate situation that he he's it's like really
12:28 really to golepe are that they're going to be a load he has the loo do you and the
12:33 loo dodo and the other nothing simply like if flotara let us some way
12:41 okay they're going to and of this man he can be the
12:49 conversation we're talking about whatever something he's I'm
12:52 this very good spin and you want to make a
12:55 confession mattho So I said, like, well, yeah, I'm, figgated
13:00 that I was working the earth, and, well, with the arado, of the pronto,
13:07 chocked with something. And, I, but I'm to make to to the animals,
13:11 and no, we could have to advance. Then I, I, scarp, with the
13:16 hands, and I discovered a coffre, a coff a very grand, entarred,
13:21 that I tried to and it was a very pesado, no, I could not get to get a old. I mean, I was I was for a tool and the only
13:28 that I was I was for a tool. Rompied the candor. And for my surprise, when I open that coffre, I'm going to get into it's
13:37 full of centenarios. Wow. But absolutely full of centenarios. I did it's a fortune, but no, I can't take.
13:46 So, look, I don't know but if I know my And my Vecinos are very ambitious. I'd
13:53 want to be to be back to get to get to the right to get to my place to get to me to
14:01 get to get the coffre you do a part of the centenaries well if imagine you Matthew,
14:08 how? If you me know, the people know, the people know, the people know
14:14 but centenarios he was with her abuela, no, they'd all what could do with that
14:22 money, imagineate. Sure. No. I thought, me will be 20 centenaries, 30 centenaries,
14:27 how's it? It's a coffre a full. And, of a person, the voice of his own
14:33 the voice of her voice of her like she said, no acceptes. And the other, you start
14:40 like, I'm going to accept. And no, no, no, no, no,
14:45 no, I said, no, no, so you, you know, thank for your
14:49 offer, but you know, I have to get, I'm prism, I have to be in my abuela. And I told her to be, you know, that you have to go, to your brother. But, imagine that you get to get, you're going to be centenaries. You're offering a fortune
15:03 only because you helpes. And, and I, again, the doubt. Well, imagine to. Yeah. And I'll try and go and go and go, go and we're going to, but we're, we're back. And we don't accept. And he said,
15:16 oh, excuse me, you know what? It's very generous to your offer. But I've got to get. Pardoname. In that instant, this man, without his somberer, that always went with his sombrero, so me made a little, maybe, he didn't
15:28 get to see very much in his car, it begins to hear like some words, me do raras, like if it were an oration, all the reverse. And all and it's a more pesado, more
15:42 complex, no? Baja a little the temperature. You know, that's is very normal when this is the thing of apparitions. And he says this man, well,
15:52 I think I can't come to come to you. In that moment Matteo he said, he said,
16:00 Matthew, I'm going to come to come in with him. He never had said it. So, he's got
16:06 evidently strange. Because, you know, when you're talking of whatever thing, but
16:10 never me present. And he says, I'm, I'm, and he made,
16:14 and so, Matthew, I looked at to see that's a sombra that was that's a
16:33 was a somber that was a thing to be in his rostro. the man was he was never to be a little bit the sombrero and he begins to
16:42 come to the beder. And, And, and his eyes, the man
16:45 is a a sombra, a long that's a lot of the place to and he's going to
16:53 get to the thing. Evidentement Mateo's sokeated. In that instant, when it
16:59 disappears, recuperer the force in the body, and get the right, go,
17:04 and come, and come, and when he gets to the abuel, the brother, the brother,
17:08 the boy, he was waiting, and when he said, you you know
17:12 you And the other's I said, I guess. Yes. You've you've found
17:17 to the man that when Christ you're to get to the
17:22 man without you know, how do you know, how do you for the years?
17:29 You offered you did you? Yes, accept you? No, that's not,
17:34 because if you had accepted, no had a had had been had
17:38 been had been on the mountain and no had
17:41 a back back but I'll tell one thing your
17:44 great problem is that all not have accepted you're not a person who the
17:49 man is a person is a person and you know you
17:53 know that that whatever that you will you
17:58 you will you to you this this you can't
18:04 you can't you don't you don't you will
18:08 you will you'll convert you'll convert in the new man without sombre. It's literally
18:20 to get who you because it's a kind of a a big I think
18:28 this legend if you you accept the the temptation of the lot of
18:35 that's somebs sohm we could understand it but there's a double proposition too
18:43 the man, sin sombre, that in some moment that's resisted,
18:47 and in a second occasion, he'll to get. So, like all legend,
18:53 has many transfondos that we have to understand. But the of all of the most
18:58 terrorific, the is the thing, you can find in the way, something,
19:03 that you get a, you get a way, and that the final of the story
19:09 only be a tricinuel to to take something more precious than the proper than the proper
19:16 the world that's over that's the time that's even in the Bible, it's mentioned
19:22 how Jesus was tempted not for the demonio for the adversary, who was he said you,
19:31 you, that is he's the god and are the people, that's that you take you
19:35 take us, you know, or you know, you know, you know, and say, God,
19:40 that says, well, I mean, the theme of the temptations always has been
19:44 present. And also in Semana Santa, it's a phenomenon that's going to be
19:51 changing. I've to say this this legend that's impressive, but
19:55 also, I don't see has heard, I said, I'm the last, the legend
20:01 the Christ Vivient. It's a Christ that's a super that if
20:06 you all year did you did you did the mal to the all to
20:10 the you're going to you're going to a Christ but in a facet very tetric or you
20:18 see, he's going to a cross cargando a cross but but like if it
20:24 was literally a muneco so you see and you can you can't the cross the cross
20:30 the earth the the first the and well it's so it who who
20:35 he did the year and so all this Jesus nace but
20:41 in your your heart, and you indulgencies, blah, blah, benditions. And in the
20:45 people, you know, that something that's that's there's not a demonio,
20:50 like you know, the devil and does do you know, and the time, this time,
20:55 and it's some of some people where I've visited, and I've seen, the demonio
21:01 is a thing, because he said, because he won't, you know, I'm sure,
21:06 I'm, this history, this story, a bit, we, we're Let us put a title.
21:11 It's called The Rituales. And I want to ask you a question, you have heard that the workes of Brugheria have more force in Semana Santa? For sure. Yes. Why consider you,
21:26 it's true, with what we about we're going to be, the word portal not necessarily the most correct. But we'll say that's a conflujo of energies. Imagineate that in that moment can't canalize. And the jobs of brusheria,
21:39 what do you? canalize. So in that moment, imagine that there's a great current of energy and those who know they canalize
21:47 the use. The approachen and they can get to get to whatever they're and they're going to say that's a
21:54 black, with the waters black, for poor or not so, imagineate what can't what can't
21:59 imagineate that you know the thing. Justantly he did the clavo and,
22:03 uh, well, look, there, there's there's there's a man,
22:06 I'm a ferns, he made a something strange in a place of a man San Bartolo of the
22:12 Jannos. It's a story that he just he was a only one he was monaglio
22:20 for much time in the parroki of this people. He mentioned that his family
22:25 not so religious but his friends were monagios so he he saw this like
22:32 an one to be a misa said it was maybe aburried
22:36 but he was you And he was with your friends. So he saw the form to pass
22:43 time of that way. He knows he says that in this people no, no,
22:47 he has a country, not a town not is a place, but that has a atmosphere
22:54 very peculiar in Semana Santa. And we says, just to him he gave
23:00 much fear the images. Because in this church where he gave
23:06 the service has images, well, let's, we're a
23:11 appearance a little tethricas, I'm about the Christ, times, different,
23:16 virgins, with rostros, a little sinister, I mean, more than that an image
23:20 to do this harmony, no, it were images that were people,
23:26 it were being being flageal and, you know, they're they're
23:29 not the type of rostros and this church was this image,
23:34 then, there there was there where he he felt that he'd
23:37 he was about when they're they're about when they're when
23:44 when it's the Santa the jose santa and all
23:47 these these the images tap with and the and the
23:51 and the environment is a little more he mentioned that the
23:59 he's he was a morning normal he did he's he's
24:05 the misa, blah, blah, blah, all the people know-to-law, but as a mid-day, a man very known of the people, pierde the life. As a little bit of a little and they're in mind that, well,
24:16 they're doing to, well, the manor encountered in his patio, it was a part of a faro fulminant. Here, there was a thing important. The people in this world, says that the
24:28 devil is all right. So, the murders or the fallacements, in that moment, the people were normalized. He'd say, ah, if it's because the devil and has swelto. Dice, the day
24:39 the day next, the Biernazanto, muriel other person. It was a senior major and the Saturday, other more. Dice, they were adults and
24:49 always were people. And the people said, is that is normal, the devil, and swelto, no, there's to go
24:55 to get to get the days, blah, blah, blah. So, there were, there were things things
25:01 this chico, the name, Ivan, that all the time, was in the church, was
25:04 meted, was being, he he had seen he's that he's
25:09 in the church. So, especially, like there times where he
25:14 he took to a parroki, then I had to have to keep a
25:19 thing, he was he was so, he was in the church lights,
25:24 you know, what, what I'm that, so, what, I'm, so,
25:29 he'd He was a much fear and he he said that he he he said, he said
25:36 one of I would would be that he would be a new I'm saying I'm saying
25:42 I'm saying I'm saying those, these images uh, they're they're and in
25:47 effect they're they're something and I said I'm I'm convinced
25:53 for many months that was my imagination or it was my fear or
25:57 my fear or my was my thing of things. One once, it's said, into the
26:03 church, outentro, there were people and say, they'd get them and the people who were always were
26:10 there, and they're there's always, they're doing. Between these people who were there, there was a
26:17 woman that was very very cared for the sacerdote, that was very cared for the feligreses,
26:22 a one more, d'clock, D'A Mercedes, as they said, Doe Meeeeee. Doe Mesh.
26:29 No, De Meeche. always organizing that the posada the senior a woman that I think
26:36 example no, move in a person to do you get a house, a person that was a
26:43 person that was he loved to and so I went to serve to my father, to God,
26:49 so that that time that Ivan the monagio that we made the this has been
26:54 many many years he said in the church and say that he he's
26:58 that he he He was recogying some things, and the people was going, and he he met to a bodega, guard some of the stuff, he demur,
27:06 he said, me demore like about about 15, 20 minutes. At the said, he's, he said, no, there's
27:12 only, there was, Doa Meche. But he called the attention to something something, something,
27:18 he said, that especially in this image of San Judas, that is the he had had seen
27:23 before said, he said, he was accommodated in a form that was like
27:30 a costado and this she was like was like a wayco the image that was the
27:37 she was like depositing something and she said he he said he said he no
27:44 he said he said like expectant all the she made another
27:50 other other other other other thing more a and he says
27:53 he says he goes he he will go to So, percina the signora,
27:58 is antigua, and agar and he's out. He, he's all, but he's a person and then the people,
28:07 the sandsen to be in polvo, or a lot of some of them some of the bit of the little, you know,
28:15 that you're on coming, that you, clear, petitions. But he says, no, is that no, is
28:20 that no, is that he did nothing of the, so, he did take the attention and he says that he goes to where he's
28:30 San Judas and says he says that he's he took much care and when he he's
28:38 there's there says that he has some he's he's and he
28:44 he's spant and he and he again again when there there are
28:49 the eyes of an sapo there was a there was a
28:53 the image of the image of San Judas and And he says that with fear, I mean,
28:57 you know, he's, to know, he's in the man, all the thing, he is a sapo
29:05 that was involved like in a trapos, a sapo that was a man, so he said, and he
29:10 said that this animalito with some some, some pieces, rojas, some papelitos,
29:17 and photos. He said that the photo corresponded to a person of the people. The poor.
29:24 He said that he, in that moment no knew what he said, he he's going to
29:28 revisit the other images and he he's to find more photos more
29:34 and he he went the of the man who had had been a
29:38 fire the the thing he's he but apart
29:43 about about the work then so there there
29:45 work there there there there there he a lot of
29:55 jobs to different people. He says that in that moment, he's going and he
30:02 about the he says, he says that the he, he, first, he, but he says
30:10 that has that has that has to come to see, and yeah, is that they're,
30:15 there's the evidence. He said that the second, he said, he, he,
30:20 he, he made to to serve the church, all world, all the
30:24 people of the people, why not? And the sacerote mando to get to all the
30:30 images. He said, the this is this is a person, this, it's not it's a
30:36 profaned, yeah, this image, not can be here in the altar, no can be in
30:41 the house. It's that the people of the people of the people, the
30:46 people, there were, there's a time, there's all the things, all the
30:51 things were destroyed and the the sacerdote, he, he said to to give a church, a
30:57 bend a hell to something. So, like the images, you see that you did you
31:05 have these rostros of flagellations, of suffering, the rosters, they said, he,
31:11 Ivan, that was there, he said, I, I, see, like, like,
31:15 like, as, as, like, as, I'm, like, sooth,
31:19 and, it, was, the , Rostro, he's the
31:23 Sascarote was there present. I said Father, he's seeing what
31:28 I'm doing what I'm and the man. The man, the mal, he said, that all the
31:36 people of the world is entero. The woman, Doa Meche, never
31:40 to come to happen. One says that simply the job, the the job,
31:45 the she did do you did, others mentioned that simply went,
31:49 because the people there is dar more to-mastomar, and if she's enter her, the lincham, for supposed.
31:56 She went the senior. Nobody moved to see her. This senior had a peculiarity. The above of the eye right, he said that he had a lunar that had a form like a staria. It was a little
32:08 strange, no? Ivan knows that he still was being monaguer for various years. The theme of the murders, the thing of the people who died of
32:18 the Semana Santa, it's to that this senior, evidently was a a woman, he was, he was,
32:24 he was, he was a thing, and after the years, and the things were calm. He mentioned
32:31 that in some moment, his papa, he did like a change of his job to
32:36 his father, he has to do they need to and he said, that after
32:41 of various years he goes to visit to the family in vacations of Santa,
32:46 and he says, in the misa, in the Misa of the Biernes, I said,
32:50 I was sitting the Santa Misa, Norma, and at the moment
32:55 of the people that's going to to comeulgar, like, that they're to take the ostia,
33:01 she was, there was a woman that was a old old incorvated, that had
33:08 a, a, a rebos that covered a a little his rosa, the
33:13 she, the she, the she, no, I know why, and when was
33:17 going to I go and the other of me, he says that the she's back,
33:21 the rebozo and he he'll go to be a lunar very peculiar here in the eye in the little bit
33:28 the eye and the she says, cumulga, he says that the way, the she's up
33:34 the book and he's back, he's back, I don't know for what I'm, this woman
33:40 regress, to the woman, he's, to terminate what the more to do you,
33:45 and the extrano of this and said they said they're and they're about
33:49 about the year and the woman not a major like I'm so, of the
33:54 so, if they're there's she's she's she's passed about 30
34:00 years, so it was a embegic very prolonged and I'm so
34:07 it was her real appearance and never know the
34:10 story of Ivan, what you do you another I'm another another
34:15 thing that has this story very peculiar. The demonio he he's just
34:20 profaned the images sagas. It's the part of that dance malevola diabolical,
34:29 you know, of, to be burlarses of the psychos so imagine this
34:36 this brouca, the level of penetration that would would be to the light
34:43 a light a living to do. And And, record what is what they say, the
34:48 major trick of the devil is to make us to make us to make us not the way,
34:52 and then even, it's a very much, it's not that you think you think you
34:59 think we're, and there says, you know, you see, that the demonies, of the demonio,
35:08 of the adversary, et cetera, has a absolute congruency with what is. Wow. Well,
35:15 well, much in Semana Santa, with the santo, with the saints that have said, I've said, of the other times, that when you're
35:23 a saint, and then you, I mean, you, with much respect for the brothers Catholic, you have to your saint. You have to give it
35:29 in the church, that one person, a sacer, you know, because many times occupant this, the people not,
35:36 no, no, no, no, do you ask this, say, he'll be, they, they'll be in their
35:41 hands, but at the maybe the santo is intentioned another and you
35:46 a demon in your house, and you know you know, you know, this figure or not
35:51 not, it was only a figure but the energy that there in your house, the depression,
35:57 the violence, things that can be going to do that any case without that's
36:02 a car not, can be going to do you docent and there and there
36:05 also devotion to that figure that can be a magnet of other
36:10 other things if not not that exactly So there's for all the
36:13 people that is devota and that has a lot of people, and that's also revising also the same because then for the then they're
36:20 some things like something like that something weird that's too yeah, that's that's weird that's wow,
36:27 well, well, I mean, I'm a story of Jueves Santo and it's
36:31 also here of Oax of San Juan Mixtepec Ah, by here that's the procession
36:38 of the almas this is this is a story very, very interesting, he
36:44 suede to a person that's called Pedro Tamayo, he said Tamayo. He's
36:50 panadero. And, and they said, in the people, normal, of the
36:58 days of the Santa, have to be to be a part of the
37:02 panteon. It's a panteon. It's a little, but not you don't you get to
37:05 the panse to the pantheon, because they're the times.
37:09 You have to care. Pedro, was a type young that really no
37:16 I didn't know about the abouturias of the people, well, tonteries
37:21 of the superstitious and the other. It's Joe Descento is hard
37:27 to to work and he had two two two
37:32 two normal that was to go to the other more
37:36 that was a past for the for the way of to retar
37:41 to the life, he's going to pass for the panteon. Total, to me
37:46 make the band-down. No, it's not. And there he's to go to Pedro,
37:51 he's going, and he and he he's in effect that the night
37:56 is like a more peser. And he's that there there's there's
38:02 so, so, so, he, to be to the The way is the pantheon, and, of the point he'll hear, like a rumour
38:08 that begins to grow and and he's to grower. And he says that he's kept, he, a parado, like a skinnita, vying to see at the entry of the paltion,
38:19 a poca, let's get to get to get a person coming down very despacio, but that no, caminaba normal, like there movements that
38:29 were movements that were humans, like, like it's more fluid, and that all the figures of the people that were passing were more more, they'd
38:40 keep observing a little more, and see, that's done that was a person and, and then, no, no, corresponded,
38:47 I just, I mean, because the people, the people not is a, blank, I mean, I'm afraid,
38:52 of the color, black, like your tennis, no? Yeah, blankos. So, so,
38:57 so, so, he gets observant, and he says, and can't, and canticos, but, He said, is that not are in canticoes that sonar like a
39:04 song like a cantoe, I was heard in my case. He kept observing a little more and he does a count that the figures are carrying a ferretro. Well, what rare that in Jueves, santo, in the night,
39:21 they're interrando to someone. Still, a little incredulo, no? But I still seeing seeing that sensation extrana, like, of something that was happening. And, of those figures that are advancing, he'll
39:34 and he kept going fichement to where he's he said he was very very strange
39:43 because when he saw the person not had a nose not had a boca only had
39:49 like eyes or something similar to but he kept going fichament
39:55 so so Pedro he sent the the the fear not of terror
40:00 but of surprise because they're are being and he's
40:04 that in a barpadeo he had the first of a minute of
40:09 distance vows right there there there's there's the
40:14 explosion of the so he said so he said without
40:19 without and this figure he he said he said he he said
40:25 he about he he said he and he
40:32 Come. Accompany. In that moment, Pedro parpadee, and when he opened the eyes, like if it was a redobled,
40:43 he'd be able to be it. He's gonna on the ferectro, being to beckxedro. You know, when they're on the
40:49 pastralles, when you see, dormido or this, well, in that barpadeo, he was up
40:55 up around, being to the feretro, and he says that the feretro is very very very despacio.
41:00 Very despise. When you came to open, after to rechinar that made after the
41:07 was the feretro was he. He was his image of him being that they were getting to be
41:14 a terrible who's being a lot of that's been that's that's been the experience
41:19 of a dead when you see, it's a very that's you're
41:23 that you're you're you're you're you're you're you're really
41:26 in a shock and in this moment I'm I'm a voice lehanna that
41:29 he says Tamayo like reaction in that's kind of of sobnolence
41:37 of not being and not hear of Tamayo and in this moment he said
41:44 that a man he he wanted that he he wanted much that he had fellecid
41:50 two years he was the only he said Tamayo he said Pedro Tamayo
41:55 but he he said Tamayo Tamayo Tamayo Tamayo and that he's
42:00 without describe how that something he has the arm, even
42:06 he has a and he he'll and he he he's a time, be a
42:14 man to him and he said, he says, no is your time.
42:19 In that he he's in his camera he he's in the
42:25 eyes he, he's in his camera, suddened completely with the heart of the
42:32 stomach, you know, you're injureds, the stomach, but, but, the other, without, without,
42:38 he was still because he was conscious, desperate, and he was parable, and, a part of,
42:44 and, this figure in front of him that he's seen, another parpadeo is being a ferectro
42:49 that's able, and is he same in that ferretro as if was he was a
42:55 voice of his tio, a parpadeo more, and of a point you don't know
42:58 and he he's in he had got to something, something so very, very firm.
43:05 And when it's a a vessel, a vessel, a vessel a discarned completely.
43:12 The other, he'd get a terror, he vented. So, so it
43:15 try to recompone, try to understand what was an hallucination, says he,
43:20 but the or so he's there in the piece. So, he has a becina, of those women,
43:28 of those who are the people who are very beautiful when they say those who are to ask them, he's going to
43:36 say, hey, is that I think I have a dream, and he's a and this, and this, and this,
43:40 and this and this decina he said, no, no, it's a new, no,
43:45 that's what what, it has said, it has been, said, that no we have to
43:51 to get to the Panteon the Jueves Santo because there the procession of the almas
43:56 and what was that did the procession of the had been you, you've got because
44:02 in that procession was your man you know but you have to do
44:06 something you know you to go in your house and you have
44:11 to get to get to get so what
44:15 what what I'm say you you you to be entering
44:20 to the panteon what you have to do you with that you know you know that you because if
44:26 the loquered it's worse for you because total there's Peter Tomayo agar the vessel
44:32 and he to the day and when he he gets the pantheon he's like he has
44:39 come in a little he's coming and and he's he's and the tomb of
44:45 his tio toin that was a The lapier is a little bit abiered. The just for that could
44:54 enter the wesso. Soilte the vessel and he only a little the lapia. From that
45:04 day, evidently Pedro says that never the Jueves Santo is a
45:10 very to get a man to the patio. Wow. Figate how it's curious
45:16 that a lot is the youth you make commeter many
45:19 a lot of you know, I'm going to tell you to talk a story
45:23 that's me make very interesting of a group of young that I'm
45:28 not no, I'm no more I'm to do this thing
45:32 because also I'm a year that's a year, that in
45:36 Semana Santa, in some people, it's a famous, very famous and
45:40 know carnet of the Marrette. Oh, you you know. You,
45:45 what you know? Figate that I did investigation about the carretta because I'm
45:51 to hear the myth constantly and in effect the theme of the carretta of the
45:58 murder is a center and this zone and this area and I
46:05 see that I'm I'll tell I'll tell very much so I'm without
46:08 to send me me much of a the
46:12 panthe that I didn't in the carret of the Muerre.
46:16 And, evidently, the Carreta of the Mermaid a night. But, look, I don't think I'm remember if
46:21 it was in Semana Santa, there's but that the Carreta of the Morte is present,
46:27 that comes a choffer of a carretta, that is the parca, and that he says his name.
46:36 That's open, well, the carretta, the door that has, and when he goes,
46:43 to look at the carretta, see his his your body. Oh, is that it's the that's the
46:48 murder, right? For example, I take that thing, because here, here, the people juror to hear a
46:55 carretta in Semana Santa or when a person will die. Yeah. So, they're on the
47:01 chadens. The cadences. The can't, the caradena. Exactly. Exactly.
47:06 Exactly. Exactly. So, there's people that is the area where the carretanda and
47:11 look, I'm another story. This story is, the really, is a very very strong and
47:18 it's a time. We're going to put them to these stories. This story we're going and they
47:25 know the last Mariana and it's called the exorcism in Semana Santa. A
47:31 be, Mariana us sent a call out a year and he's a year and
47:38 he says, Paco, I'm to tell something that I have told for almost 20 years.
47:48 What I've lived, is something that my family was a devote, that all my family were very religious and that, so,
47:57 he's over the discovery that exists more than the good, the malo. And I also,
48:04 she. She knows that this occurred when she had two years. He said
48:10 that I had to terminate his studies in the primary. His papas are
48:15 masters of and they're and they're doing classes in a Pueblito that's in Puebla precisely.
48:23 She lived a much time in the city. There's her education primary and her mom and said,
48:29 oh, I'm, and if you come you and you're, you know, you're doing, you're not
48:34 you're not a lot. And, so the she's made to the people with his
48:40 people with those people, is in the school where they're two parents. And, the advantage is to my mom and a papa
48:48 all the semester. The disadvantage, in this people, that's called St. Lucas, is that
48:54 metied in the serros, caminos, of traceria and parcels, here, no, there was
49:00 any signal of the telephone, the internet of that then then then we didn't,
49:04 so, and it existed, practically still, and he said, and we had,
49:08 we had a penis vision very small, that was where my mom, my papa, and only
49:14 you'd see a channel and in pensive quality. The people here were very amable,
49:20 but they were some usos and customs very strange, but over all, very extreme. You say,
49:27 on Semana Santa. In Semana Santa, there was the incomienda for all
49:34 the people, that no can't do anything, and when I say, nothing,
49:38 my dear You can't go to work. No, you can't occupy marty-y-clavos. So, for example, that you say, I'm going to put a a photo in the cell of my
49:49 house. No, no, no. It's, I, so, if you did say that, you'd like that all the people of all the people of all, because the
49:55 people had the that you were the that you're that you're literally clavowing to Jesus. So,
50:02 then I had the people of these creencies. So the people in that the people, in Semana Santa, not
50:08 They were not, they were in their houses, they were guarded, salient in the morning, only to do the compas necessary and even, even, even, I mean,
50:17 so there were those famous days of guard, no? Tal qual. He said that she, she said, he was all this
50:25 is this is too very extreme, this is too very bizarre, and he said that the first, the first Semana Santa
50:30 that he took to live there, the birnast was allude the day, the he says
50:35 that decides escape to, to escape and then to visit the people to be in
50:40 their people, those parents, well, a little distraided and said that they
50:46 said, I went to see, I went to the, the waychuelos that were near the
50:50 city, and there he was toped with a thing, and there coming down
50:56 to a lag, he's a woman to hearar and she was a man
51:02 a sonos. I, the first that I said The young, Sure, the Yorona.
51:10 And he says that she she doesn't fear when she said the woman, how it's like the
51:16 she'll be she'll be she's curiousity. He said that he started to come in the soyos and he
51:24 went to where there a lag and there a woman that had a vestido that could
51:29 also a that could be a little and this woman with the head to front. And this woman
51:39 said, my little, my little, look how they're and I and I'm,
51:45 and I said that she was there was there to the lejos, the curiosity, no?
51:53 And of this woman, she does know that she is there is a
51:57 mind of that she and says that he's the mind, and in
52:02 that moment see that was that was his a rostro, like, as a
52:07 , I'm a margues, but they were marcus red, so it's that when
52:14 he, exactly, like if it was a when it's this rostro, what does marianna is
52:19 pat-tittas for what she'll start, but he's going, and he's all the people, the luto,
52:25 in silence, and of the point, the scandal of a little chachita of two years,
52:29 the people is assom, gets to the house, to his mom, her and her and he's
52:35 a woman that was that was a woman, he was a mother, he said that his parents were
52:41 and they said, is that certainly was someone of the people that ispant
52:46 because for the people not say but they're not they even they
52:50 that excuse. At the day the Saturday says that Mariana what
52:57 the he's a mano, it's a ardor in hands and front. He's
53:04 that's still in your camera, dormida, he started to get to get her
53:09 and he had and I'm in the front, and the hands were they'd but also they
53:14 were they're they're when he his hands, in the palms
53:20 had her had irides abirtas. It's practically how we can't we can't
53:27 just stigmas. And also here in the front. He says that his parents are worried. No,
53:34 know what is what is what's what's going. In that town, there was a, a center of health,
53:40 even, even, a, other people. So, so they decided to get it with a curandero that's
53:46 a little of medicine, and the curandle he said, no, is that this has to be the
53:50 sacerdote of the people. They're they're they're that getting the
53:56 sacerdote no, no, no, no, no, he He threw with eyes
53:58 and a good The face of the father when he these hurt in her was of fear,
54:05 was of much preoccupation and he said he said, he said, he said, he came to tell me,
54:12 how, how you know, well, it was, oh, father, amnesia,
54:15 blah, blah, but what did you, did you, did you, did something, did you,
54:20 and said, no, well, he said, the day of year, the day of a woman
54:25 so, so, said, He says that the Father ha la's his Bible and he
54:29 says, if you molester I can't read the Bible, no, I'll
54:33 say that his papas like very confused and that everything and that
54:37 all until he came to the time when the part said that
54:45 he said that he was saying that he was that abrogate matisim mora under the
54:49 sombrate and he says he said he he says he starts words,
54:55 it's she and Mariana and I want to hear of me say I'm saying, I'm
54:59 was going how the sacerdote leighia and of the point I'm to know
55:03 how her voice to hear her with clearity so I started more
55:09 much, lehous, lehous, lehh, and so he gets up the foco.
55:14 No I'm no record nothing. No he says that his ultimate
55:20 record is being in the So, so like, the
55:25 roadies, he was a lot of saliva, he was salivating much,
55:30 her mom and her and her father and the other and the two
55:34 a disaster in that she was, she not. She no remember nothing.
55:40 The last, the last one one he said, he's he
55:45 to hear of listen, and he says, he's his mom he started
55:50 to mention all what what happened but all he said
55:54 in this moment she's he's he went to the gold to the
55:58 god to the was a cause total and at the last
56:04 they did not say not she not she said
56:07 she was that was a not a position
56:10 and was still still still still still still
56:13 still even he but that not so that not
56:19 that was that house, all confunded but not know what is going to
56:25 know what's he's he's not the parents of her yeah, they're planning to
56:30 ask their to make a time, they're just they said that one morning,
56:35 a little to get to get to to help us to get to the
56:40 lot of a lot of a lot of a story very with the same herds.
56:54 The people cregues that was a time of a thing of a thing of a legida of God.
57:00 During many many years, not was like she was the next, during many some years, these
57:07 were like to open, they were to start, and it was a time and it said that when they were
57:14 they were, there was an aroma that was a aroma that was like a flowers, olia flowers.
57:21 And if had a person, there the person has a person has sanable. The problem is that after this aroma that's an
57:29 a greatable, it was like of a flor marchita, and he apestable and this a muchachita in a man,
57:36 and he was to be at a misa. And the sacerote said that was a benitian,
57:41 that was a recididid and the archaistia and mentioned that the moment that
57:48 about this the new, the new no tolerer the presence of the Eucharistia, the presence
57:53 of God. And in that moment, it's a church, and it's a practice a exorcism
57:59 there in that moment. The detail is that no occurred like with Marianna, yeah that
58:05 the exorcism was prolonged for many and unfortunately, well, no, no,
58:11 no, no, no, no, no, no, the child, the second, it, of these
58:19 markers that precisely started in Semana Santa. The
58:23 sacs rapidly actioned. If there was a issue of a
58:29 problem very very and finalize this story Marianna
58:33 us says never knew that that was that I
58:37 in the I never to see to my papas
58:40 and they did we we went the days
58:46 after. I'm No, I see if something in Semana Santa intended to get to with me and no
58:51 he's got. But never will forget how it when the mal is there. She says
58:58 that the sensation is horrible. You see, atrapado, trapped in your own your own your own
59:04 your own and you get a and you've done. And you don't remember. And you know, and fifted that
59:11 one of the entrations say, no, of the demons to, to the , to the
59:15 the , is the fear. It's just to provoke a fear of
59:20 a need to that make that, let us your guardia emotional and spiritual go back
59:29 for complete and they enter direct. There are some things very interesting
59:35 about the pesadillas. All the incubes and all of that
59:38 that's that the origin of the world is very common in the
59:43 world. It's repite the the same, the great oppressors of the pecho, so
59:48 they're in different idiomas and and it's just that, they're just that by the dreams, the
59:57 bad those those are those those who do you are the abristened the
01:00:02 heart, is a way of that these can't access to the bodies. Much
01:00:09 times it's in the world onirical, but other times is how it's how
01:00:13 it's what What happened right with these appearances that you're going to the guardia. It's so the stress? What happens?
01:00:20 You what you think you could have been that I'm I mentioned I think that was the Yorona or some
01:00:27 other entity very peculiar but vestido black. Oh, is that there's that you're a interesting
01:00:33 of the Yorona look. The Yorona there's a theory super loca, Paco,
01:00:38 of the Yorona for if you you analysis the myth of the Yorona. The
01:00:42 Yorona, at final of the final of she is, uh, was victim of his
01:00:48 propios, of his own insecurity, of a passion desbordada for an engany and then for that's
01:00:56 his children. And as that he has a little great repentiment and then a
01:01:02 woman for having done by the murdering the murder of his children. There's other day,
01:01:08 we'll say that's the origin of the Yorona. But the thing of that is that there is a theory that that is a spirit of the
01:01:16 Yorona as well, no tend to be a lot, no, I'd have to be to do anything. They're saying that there's a other spirit on the yorona, one more, no? One that's, so, one that's
01:01:29 monted to the spirit of the Yorona, and that's the cause, the grand temor. For that the yant-of-the-joloma when you get to be, why the yorona
01:01:41 would be cause a fear of a pain? It's an soul that's a realerably rota
01:01:49 this other thing. These are these are these those those those
01:01:54 those are those are the demons are the demonies what they
01:01:58 that what uses the you'reone and for so when you see a
01:02:02 yearana in be you the things of the things you know you
01:02:06 you know you You know, you're going to do you. You're going to. You know, so in this case, my theory about this is that, I think no. No, I think that's a, the yorona.
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01:03:35 They're not. For so they say, never, you know, never, baches the guardia. For so, many people are they, believe, or not, in whatever. a little about about that religion. This, creas or no, the guardia spiritual
01:03:48 is in your sense of the sense of the honor of the virtue of all that. Are you
01:03:58 the worldias that we have to these things that when they're not we know we know
01:04:01 we know we know that we had a there was there was a depression if there
01:04:07 was a situation for that was a moment of a much a moment of
01:04:12 the all the time. So, practically is just the word that says, are opportunists, no, they're not,
01:04:19 they need to have the door open, but with a rendicita and a wayquito, then it passes, and there
01:04:25 and they enter. And with that they're, and for that's a time, the time of the guards.
01:04:33 For so they're not expongas, because in those days you're disnude. In those
01:04:39 sense, then it's a lotcura. Oh, family. Much of So, we're very much.
01:04:44 As far as already, the stories have been been very for a question, I'm
01:04:47 to say, I'm a little to make your like, you're very good, and we're
01:04:54 very good, and we're very much this reflection, and also the thing that the bad on
01:05:00 in times santa. Semana Santa. That's fickate that the that the
01:05:06 santo came for the reindication. Yeah. So, we're, we're
01:05:12 the to the mal. But are 10 in where the mal is a festival, you know, so it's a duality brutal. Because when you're about of the, of the meno he put to Jesus and, hey, you know,
01:05:23 you know, you know, it's a hungry, it's a hundred, no, or salta. But the ultimate, you offer me, to offer me, and it's when he said, well, wait. Hold, no.
01:05:35 A-beer, let's be, here, Papa, I've got one one more. But, but, but that is. Well, Well, I'm going to tell
01:05:42 this this this this about this because at the moment
01:05:47 that we we're doing about this program I'm it's very well, it's very well,
01:05:53 about the processions, for example, no, all this type of things. But what
01:05:57 what's when there a church a phantasm? Okay. It's a case
01:06:04 documented in Jalisco in a place that is a Villagrero Jalisco. There are
01:06:09 there's Villagererereros. This is Jalisco. It's documented in various chronicles in Jalisco.
01:06:15 And this you can see. Who you're being looking, can be the thing of the church of the Christmas
01:06:24 Santo also. And here is another manifestation of the obscurity. Imagineate. That's the fashada of
01:06:36 a church. In this story, Andres Lauer and Victor, three chavos, friends that
01:06:45 they'd get the camping. Semana Santa, we're of a, of the voyage, let me
01:06:53 get to get to get to different places and and the andres, a type very good
01:07:00 onda, he was aora, Laura, a little a little, this chica those chicas
01:07:06 luminosas that's a smile that's very beautiful, very And Victor, the
01:07:13 Amigo Inseparable, the one of the car to make the shirt for the other and the entron,
01:07:19 no? Sure. They're going to precisely in the on the Wednesday
01:07:24 and and they're going to a road to and it's a vera
01:07:31 and see there's that would comepard by a breaka and come in much
01:07:37 time, and they're on Laura He's the other people. And if you're going to be the other, no, I don't hear you. No, I don't hear nothing.
01:07:49 So, I'm going to be my imagination. They're going to, and again, the other one of the other. Oh, yes, if you, see, I listen to the campanas. Well, well, they're going to comeinandah and eventually discover them in my church. A little bit of a greekusia, a little bit of a gothic, of good
01:08:08 time. But in the middle of a nabyeat a dreece and a point a church and a gothic.
01:08:15 Well, because the gothic generally in cities. Sure. No?
01:08:19 No, no, is nothing usual, be a construction so.
01:08:24 Then they they're and they they're the campan, and there's
01:08:27 there's there there's there so there so so andres
01:08:32 says, ohie, it's a church in in the middle of the nada, it's a bit rarro.
01:08:38 And Victor, he said, man, don't you're saying, oh, we're not, you're not, we're going to
01:08:44 let's be, apart, because there's, even there's, even there's, because they're some, because they're
01:08:49 some, we're just, no, I'm a, no, I'm a, no, I'm met, no,
01:08:54 and there's, and he's, he's a point, and he, and he, he's, like,
01:09:00 like, like, And total, the three enter. But at the moment of to enter, the church is a bigantexasca for the endro.
01:09:15 No, it was no relation in aspect with what he had for the world for what they'd be in a lot enormous, with bankas
01:09:24 and bankas and bankes and at the front of a lot of bells on the lones that they'd
01:09:31 and these sombras strange that the fire. And, And then, Victor, fascine,
01:09:36 oh, my, the church, no-se- and the other two, like, chim.
01:09:40 And they're to advance and they're going to go to the altar. And, they're
01:09:46 in a point that the church in the part superior, has a lot of vitrals.
01:09:51 But it's a attention, that generally the vitrales in a church, but they're
01:09:56 about about about the passion of Christ. It's generally what they are the
01:09:59 people, and in this case, no. In this case, the vitrales were
01:10:04 full of figures of people with the people, asust those, like,
01:10:12 trying to have been with the eyes very very full, completely. And there
01:10:18 were hundreds of people retratated around of the church with
01:10:23 these characteristics. And, so that those detier a little. They're still,
01:10:28 they're going to the altar, and they're to Sienten
01:10:32 miras very persistent in the back. Then, all the banks were in basies.
01:10:40 But imagine that I'm that I'm that I'm seeing the of the people, so I'm
01:10:46 really really soke a little and they're I think we're we're not we're not.
01:10:52 And in the moment that they say, more we're we're on
01:10:55 the front, they're they're to start Because if it was a, a current of
01:11:00 an air that starts, apas, apas, apas, apas, apas, apas,
01:11:04 then they're in a moment, and then it's, in a ventiska terrible that, that's, he,
01:11:12 they, they're, and so, Andres comes to the left, and Laura and Victor
01:11:18 are going to the right, but running to the door to the when they're
01:11:24 to get to when they they're to be, they're like the atmosphere in the
01:11:27 the the church is cargare and all the vitralles stalled
01:11:31 in that moment. And, they're over them, a new, a
01:11:35 jubia of crystals cortances, that they leseran the skin,
01:11:40 they're the clothes, the roba, they're they're really
01:11:43 they're really they're being, they're going to be going, and Victor
01:11:49 Victor, but Victor he, um, he, he's, he, he's,
01:11:53 he's the first that he could get to the door that was just a car to andres
01:11:59 he's a little back. And the ultimate record that says to have
01:12:04 is that see how Laura is trying to open the door and like
01:12:09 if a one one a man and he
01:12:14 was and he and and he out of the
01:12:17 middle and the other other friend Victor says for
01:12:22 favor don't go don't go to the way you know, they're in the
01:12:30 and you know, and then I'm andresi and say it was like if the church of the church of the
01:12:34 church is should have been a big abism in a a box black that he was
01:12:41 a ha-lating. In that instant, he's a conscience. And the second that he
01:12:47 is that in the breach tirade tirado and without the
01:12:55 the body was really with with crystals clas in the in the
01:13:00 the the rope disgarrava it's it's just and there and then it nobody
01:13:04 and try to see where the church and don't know the place
01:13:10 there's there the front to that comes to someone coming
01:13:13 to maybe so to be so it's a He was a rier. Ah, he gotra,
01:13:20 he got, he, he'll be. And he says, Soverevivist. And he's He said, he doesn't understand well, he said, Scy, The Iglesia
01:13:31 Te Scupio. How, the church, no? He said, Ben, he'll help, it, he'll incorporate,
01:13:40 he quits, he'll get a vidrius, he says, come, let me, let me, come to my house. He goes to
01:13:46 his house and he said, you've you've got you're you're in a
01:13:49 childas you know and the other oh yeah but my my friends no, then your
01:13:57 friends you know my friends my friends don't no much no your
01:14:02 no your not you I've got I'm in this same he was with my
01:14:08 man we're we're very we're very young and we're
01:14:12 on a Christmas Sando as like so before 40 years,
01:14:17 we've seen the church. And I'd say to my brother that not enter and my brother,
01:14:21 and I'm and we're sure that's you're going to do this, yeah, and I'm so, so I
01:14:28 did you know, you've got to the eyes, and you're all the bells, stalliard the
01:14:32 crystal, yes, so, so, but to me too, the church
01:14:36 me was sopio, I'm overent years. It was other Soverevient and he
01:14:42 He said, No, you know, you know, not you know we're not so we're in
01:14:48 his apparition and of his ambris. But my friends, your friends are with my brother.
01:14:55 Since 40 years, my brother has part of those vitrals. And now your friends
01:15:01 also form part of those vitrals. This man, go and denuncia what so he
01:15:09 said, he's he, he says, he's he's, he's to get to the idea that
01:15:14 the other described exactly that he had seen. And, the situation is a public
01:15:21 very complicated to make a question, but obviously the principal suspectos is he. Total,
01:15:27 after a long process of, well, legal, it's, it's being innocent,
01:15:36 but the mark is made. All the nights, after the years that were
01:15:43 this time that was a that was the first he said that in the nights
01:15:47 when I'm the eyes I'm the the the
01:15:51 the church and the church don't and and that
01:15:57 invariably when he was to listen I was
01:16:03 a voice that he he said and he was
01:16:11 every every that went to the vent and the
01:16:14 Be it the reflexe of the aura vending it and he said why we don't you know, because we
01:16:23 us abandoned a bit of this, my brother oh says I mean I'm, I'm,
01:16:29 I'm a story very old and me record of this of a that a that
01:16:35 that was that I'm not so not say to call almas
01:16:39 or he in what form a person into the quadros.
01:16:46 And a person, a person that gets to get to this house, that's
01:16:51 a bit of a lot of a lot of a house, it's a lot of there's
01:16:58 but in the quadros can't be a place there's a very but
01:17:03 there's something that has a nothing to have with the picture.
01:17:06 Imagine we a man's a manniser, a So, yeah. And other
01:17:15 quadro of, no, see, of a little, like, European, blah, blah, blah.
01:17:20 But in the garden, another person like, like, you know, in all there was a
01:17:25 person or two people, but in a situation of fear, of terror. And they were not
01:17:32 to be with the picture. Like, like, it was a stampa that they
01:17:35 put here there, no? No. No. So, This story, it happened for a long time, because it's supposed that this woman,
01:17:42 like, encapsulabha, people. It's a work of burglary, evidently brutal. Brutal. So, it's advanced-dissom. Fidate, my, that this story I really I've heard, I've heard, I've heard of this church a phantasm, and of what's sulleseder,
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01:19:41 person that me mando a new story anonym. And the courier is not I did I
01:19:47 should have a week so much. Well, well, brother. No, no,
01:19:54 man, that's really, it's really, it's, imagineate if deposition
01:19:58 you say, don't do you don't say, we go, weha. That's story
01:20:03 is a well, man. A bit more. Well, well, it's that no, no, no.
01:20:11 You thinkeras that probably probably not no, or that probably did it or that's
01:20:16 something, or with what they're to get to get to this, I've played Ujah,
01:20:22 you've done at some moment, we've done, we've got to, we're all right, and literally really,
01:20:27 not is a game, I'm just always to make emphasis of this, it's like a
01:20:31 game because it's the fame that has a game. For nothing is a game. Really, you're having a contact with
01:20:39 a person or with a spirit, immundo, or with a demon, no we know, it's a telephone at a
01:20:46 zah. No, you know, who's the other side. The detail is, there's, there's a
01:20:51 person that me say, that's is to do Wihah, but no even to start very
01:20:57 in the game, because you have the portal, and if you're you go and no, and no,
01:21:01 you know, you know, and you know, the portal, if you're an person, me said that
01:21:07 this, he's a a public in a city, in Chasas, in Chappas. And Chappas.
01:21:15 And, he says, he and his, and his people, who are of this
01:21:20 people, of a family very Catholic but a hoaxo-colored, you know, you know, to have,
01:21:27 you know, communions, the baptism, this, baptism, confirmation, all, if you
01:21:32 get a for the church, parents are quite stricts and that, for example,
01:21:37 not they were series or caricatures like Dragon Bowl Z, that is demoniac or so,
01:21:43 imagine a person that this way, and I know, I'm
01:21:48 also, I'm also, and I'm to be other religions, testives of Jehovah,
01:21:52 Mormons, et, Christians, you're they're to be a little,
01:21:57 so you know so, you know of these things. And there's a
01:22:00 Ditcho that's by the more you're more you're a more you
01:22:04 want to say, well. Well, he and three friends grew here
01:22:10 that's many way, detestando the religion, odiant the religion.
01:22:16 They had their sacraments, his first communion, chavos
01:22:21 between 14 and 16 years. Odiabed all the thing, because
01:22:27 they were obligated you can be there. Semana Santa, for them the vacations
01:22:33 you know, you know, you're going to go to the school, but what you're saying that you're
01:22:39 saying that's and they're they're and they're and they're and they're and you know that's the
01:22:46 rebeldi and it's that in a year specifically they're they're in the
01:22:52 night for the people they're of the people that were in the one in his bicycle
01:22:59 other sat down in the banqueta and they're talking this chico that me said I had had played wheeha before, yeah he had played with a
01:23:08 company that was that was in a question, so it's a total what is if you you just you know, you know,
01:23:14 yeah has it's a much time that's, and it's that it was very easy to get a
01:23:20 a whiffa and I'm and I'm going to you're going to get to great, yeah,
01:23:27 so you you go, you were, and he said they were together, he had played waha, and no
01:23:32 had passed a thing, he's, that's, it was a minute, and I'm trying to to do you,
01:23:38 and never contactable with nothing, never was, never, never, and he said, the people
01:23:44 were there were, for this, was, on this, was, on this, business
01:23:51 are all, there, well, there, with a part of a, the,
01:23:55 they were, they're, they're, they're the other, and Oh, yeah, it's all my aburried, no? And, um, and, and they started to
01:24:02 talk stories of terror, or, well, I was that I'm going to, no, and what's the thing? No, well, it's not, well, it's a great thing. And, and, oh, yeah, what day is, it's, Bermanes, Santa? And if we've got to be what happens? And he says, one of these
01:24:18 people, he said, no, no, no. I don't let me. I don't know, I'm not. You're, oh, oh, yeah, no, you're not, you're all this, I'm all the time, we're all the time, we're all, we're obligate, I mean, we're going. No, it's a lot.
01:24:31 But we're going to do it. We're going to do it in the night, but we're going to do it in front the church.
01:24:38 Because the the church, where they did it, had gardens had a front, and a despite that the
01:24:43 church was a carid, you could be able to get in the gardens, start in the
01:24:47 the church. And he says that there's the thing of no, you're an
01:24:52 this, you're an this, you're the pression and all ceded.
01:24:58 And then, we're going. Who's going to? No, I have one. We have one. He's not.
01:25:05 They're going to be there and they're going to the people. No, I think that they're like they're like the
01:25:11 night. The church was closed. And they're they're going to play. That person that's
01:25:17 person that's I've had used Uiha and no had passed on nothing. And it didn't even
01:25:23 so much the But that day, to really, that was it another level. From the moment
01:25:32 one, that's if there someone, or so, like, like, like,
01:25:39 no, no, no, so, a, no, so, a, so,
01:25:44 and it's, he's, but it's like this risa, nervous, and it's, ha,
01:25:49 ha, he did, so, it's a, a, a, a, a,
01:25:53 a, a, a, a, a, fear. And he says that one of them is, sure, that
01:25:57 we're going to do? That's going to do? Yeah, well, we're going to be. We're going to be. Okay, if there's someone, no. And it's a man, you're a man, and rapid.
01:26:09 And they're just like, oh, it's a, it's a problem. It's, you're not, no, no. Ben, and do you do. And it's that the four were passing, and with the four was moving. And the
01:26:23 four were so, You know, I can't believe or so, that's, and they're to make to make more
01:26:30 questions and get a moment where they say, how you call you know, the
01:26:36 word that form the cursor is the word Jesus. Okay? How's years
01:26:47 you have, and it says, and he's, and he, he's, the number three.
01:26:55 33. 33. And they're like, like, so, like, they're
01:27:01 in that they're at that point, they're a point, but a little incredulose, a little,
01:27:07 is, it's, it's that probably, probably it's probably, probably we're, probably we're,
01:27:13 we're not, we're, and he says, they're making questions, it's active an Alexa
01:27:19 for there. And, and I'm, and I've done, I've done, no, exactly. They're still
01:27:26 doing questions but they're saying that they're that's in the
01:27:32 people of the people who's moving the bankers, and it was to see a, like,
01:27:38 and they they're asking, Jesus, is you you, the that's doing the
01:27:44 church? And Mark, yeah, if it was he was he, and he's, okay, you're moving
01:27:51 the things, and they're doing questions for this point, the middle of
01:27:56 the people, yeah, no they're, they're, they're not,
01:27:59 they're they're and they're to get to and then yeah, yeah, yeah,
01:28:04 see, and there's a moment, where this kid, and he's, and where you're,
01:28:11 in what you're, in the infirno? He's that when they're in that word
01:28:20 in the life, infierno, so they're in the four and they're they're,
01:28:25 they're They're going to. They're there in the patio of the church. They're,
01:28:34 that's not to do. No. No, you can't terminate a way to be that way.
01:28:40 It's a many of many times. Regressan at the day the next there was the
01:28:45 table. The the deion of the table that was the child that's he's a
01:28:50 little, the person that me and the person that me this story is one
01:28:56 of the people who He's just He was that's of the most
01:29:00 mehous and he said, I've had had been never ever
01:29:04 never had been that that that's that that's the
01:29:08 problem is that the the the guy the the
01:29:12 he had to do do do he on
01:29:16 the Saturday of the Saturday and they don't
01:29:20 they in the the church, the friend no is present, terminate the vacations of Semana Santa,
01:29:27 no they're in the school, what's the where is? And he said, they're going to
01:29:33 visit him to his house and his mom, he said, no, that's been that's
01:29:36 been a person, and they say that I have been a lot of fever, no
01:29:41 had been to be to be not, but he he's confies to other
01:29:46 other other other other he, he's they're in the door
01:29:50 for favor. Cierran the door and they'll see the door and it's me,
01:29:56 he's like all the little the little ulceras had like some of some of the
01:30:04 and it says that I don't know what I'm going to say that he's that in the
01:30:10 night he's that something what comes to the room has a
01:30:18 has heriders in hands in feet and he has a coroner
01:30:22 he says he he's he he's he he's he
01:30:29 he's arrasn't but he reincorpor a a silhouette a human
01:30:34 and he he he he he has a crown
01:30:38 but but he he starts me in the so he
01:30:43 he has he has he has these ulceres says the people
01:30:48 that he was preoccupied much, at the, the way, it's going to be
01:30:54 going to be, I don't see, you've got to talk to be when they're to be
01:30:58 about the , of the kid, this kid, they say, they think in the people,
01:31:04 that's that's a spanted for a point, and for that when the
01:31:08 point, I'm, because the kid he's, to puter to get to get
01:31:13 to chupars, but they said, so, in the the wososos, they were to mark
01:31:18 much of the He had more ulcers in the pyrna, in the breast, in the back in the time, this child, at the
01:31:24 second, he said, my friend, my man, my man, we're, we're, we're, we don't know, he's
01:31:31 what we're going, because, a more, I, had to be to be a thing, and that's the we did we
01:31:39 did we're, that night in that church, in that you know, it's, What do you think is, that's what you're
01:31:51 two things I think of the books most famous of terror and another of the periculies of terror
01:32:01 that's the exorcist that you remember that he needs to a session of Uiha yeah
01:32:04 so at final of all that is an invocation to Pazu that's another
01:32:09 and well this demonio yeah and it yeah and it doesn't in this
01:32:15 novel you retratan what what can be a big a channel
01:32:22 and it's tremendous. And the second is the spirits that are in demonology,
01:32:29 that's classic. All the what is all that is reincorpor in a moment is
01:32:37 an entity of the terrible astral of the most obscure. Now,
01:32:42 imagine what perversity adopt the image. Another other
01:32:48 the of the master. Of the same we're how we're profan
01:32:54 the figures perspective of the figures religiousas. I've heard that I've seen that.
01:33:02 I never I was about the movie of the conjure the monja we know
01:33:08 that's demonio Balak in demonology in the Ashgoetia in the
01:33:15 Javemnon Salomon came how is Balak Alag is, of a
01:33:19 angel, is like a man. It's like a man. But he's a prince of the
01:33:25 infirn. So, is a principality. He has a merced, legions of demonios. And,
01:33:34 as, as how it, command, over them. So, so, just when the people,
01:33:39 we say, we're, we're not, because it's a monka and this and the other,
01:33:43 the the movie also, it's it's, it's obviously this part of real.
01:33:48 Balak is known justly as Balak the profan a profan. A profan. A profan.
01:33:55 It's so strong that that he not, no, no, no,
01:34:01 not attack people, we're going to say, that's a little, no, that's,
01:34:06 that's, that's, he, Balak, the demonio Balak, what he is attack
01:34:12 a person in sanctity. For that, there, there, chronicles, where monjas
01:34:18 were posseys for Balak. So, the monjas saw that other mona, and this demonio was sentia
01:34:26 so powerful that said, I could profanar a figure like a man and I can be to be
01:34:31 a man, no me doesn't know and attack to who there's there was a moment
01:34:37 where a monja, no, I remember, the name, he was a long- in some
01:34:41 moment, it was, Maria, Concepion and blah, blah, blah, blah,
01:34:44 blah, blah, of the Monjas that were possegied in conventos and it
01:34:49 was a lot of many years, but there was to relucing much the name of and it
01:34:56 and just the profanation of images santa. But imagine it. This episode is brought to you by FedEx.
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01:36:03 like this, to take the figure of Jesus. Sure. Madre me. What is you're taking? A woman, at the final of the count, is a woman, if a devote, etc. A, a lot of a second to say that also where,
01:36:16 also, to where, also, to tell you, Santos, like your first story, well, okay, it has been with the
01:36:21 profanation of the image, but use the figure of Jesus, is a lot of the story,
01:36:27 that I'm that you've told, the Jesus, that they've been coming to rastrand also,
01:36:31 also, so, for what, they're in these appearances, vallie? In Semana
01:36:36 Santa, it would be a murder, no? For the death of the
01:36:40 thing, they use, they're so, so, so, so, are very,
01:36:44 so, are very romantic in occupy, or so, I mean, this is tonal.
01:36:48 For so that's a very sth. A lot. A lot very stucous. No.
01:36:52 For sure. Sure. Malibol. Yeah, that's what you're no. No, no.
01:36:58 No. Those stories were bled like, how you did you have passed to her man?
01:37:01 Maravito. Marvell to be really. Apart, it's very fluid, the practice
01:37:06 and I a good and of that's I'm just that we're that we had been
01:37:10 that had a good stories. For something. I was interesting. I was like when I started
01:37:16 the podcast, to talk of stories of a time since. It's our special that we really
01:37:21 we're really we're really really a special of Semana Santa. That's because there's that it
01:37:27 honor, that's honor to be honor, thank you before let us. Projects
01:37:32 that you have and for the purpose, for favor the books that are available for that
01:37:37 the people can do you know. Much thanks. I'm I'm trying
01:37:42 Reds Social, me can find out as Ramon Valdez with Es Elisondo. In all the reds I'm
01:37:48 so we're so you know about the time, legends, histories, much that have to be
01:37:54 with the orgul to our culture, with the people to whom we're we're going
01:37:59 we're things of things of terror, for support. You know we're
01:38:04 we're a baby that's a spejo the podcast of the podcast of
01:38:08 the podcast, a format very different is where I
01:38:12 want to a legend it's very very simple we're talking about the context of the legend,
01:38:18 then we're a narration of the legend that's an email and at the final we're we're doing
01:38:24 and it's and it's this is those are the last the time where we're some of
01:38:31 the people that's the thing that's the favor to do do it to make to be
01:38:35 very very we're just we're very contentes with that we're we're
01:38:40 a year to have initiated the project. There we've And the book. Well, I'm a writer.
01:38:46 I'm a series of a series of called Flore Negra. It's a saga that's a very, very good.
01:38:51 For supposed, that's a monology Maya. For the purpose, there's oscuros, Mayas, those are
01:38:56 to find out there. They're going to know. One of the mythologies more grandes that
01:39:00 in the world. The Maya. It's not our per energy. So, something is a
01:39:04 very beautiful. It can find in any library. The libraries of the libraries of
01:39:08 the libraries of all, there's there's Flore Negr. The third
01:39:13 book is out of it's going to be cocing. So, it's very content
01:39:20 for that so. And for other side, there's a hotel California, which is
01:39:25 a book of a book of the song, Hotel California. Hotel mythical,
01:39:30 no, a story of an story of an enciaro, it can find and in
01:39:35 that we're very contentos. And Paco, much thanks. Thank you. Thank you.
01:39:40 Thank you. Thank you. So, you know, knowing that's a special of Semana Santa that you have to be a lot.
01:39:47 It's for me an honor, Veeho. DeVra. A really, a honor. Thank you, thank you,
01:39:52 with the heart of the family, also the family, too, that's time to end up. I'll
01:39:57 just say, let us like, and subscribe. Passen to the social. Passen to the
01:40:01 person, Ramon, for you see the time, the quality of the legends that
01:40:04 that's that's sure if you'd like to like to hear this this
01:40:07 question of this I'm there's there you know you're not you're gonna
01:40:13 see me back to be back on the next. Ciao. The quantity
01:40:20 of the people in Semana Santa in Rituales pagans is impressive and
01:40:26 and they say this chica in case inca a pagered to the spouted the
01:40:35 spalda completely deskted as the and the the spiel.
01:40:41 And that day it's supposed that the pactos are
01:40:44 set for complete and in form effacac occupant also
01:40:49 derraming a innocent and also a cordero that in
01:40:54 this is an animal is all is an innocent it
01:40:58 is the cap of the demon a cap a cap made a
01:41:10 made and ra' to be it. But it's the penitle. The umbilical, the umligo the umligo
01:41:20 and for the and there the borgone. It's a a locura.
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