EXTRA ANORMAL - El INFIERNO No Existe | Relatos Siniestros de Experiencias Cercanas a la Muerte

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, exploramos Experiencias Cercanas a la Muerte que te harán cuestionarlo absolutamente todo:¿Qué vemos realmente al morir? ¿Quién decide si volvemos? ¿Por qué algunos regresan y otros no?Felipe nos comparte relatos estremecedores:👁️‍🗨️ Un joven accidentado que recibe un mensaje de su tío… sin saber que su alma había partido ese mismo día.💔 Un hermano cuyo amor fue tan grande que regresó del más allá gracias a un “intercambio”.🌗 Testimonios: la luz, la oscuridad y esas almas que se quedan atrapadas porque no quieren partir.👹 Una madre que, en su dolor, ve a su hijo… pero no es él, sino algo demoniaco que toma su forma.🌬️ Un mensaje inesperado desde el más allá que cambió para siempre la vida de Felipe.💀 Una mujer salvada por la Santa Muerte cuando estuvo a segundos de ser desvivida.⚫ Un hombre arrogante que cae a un vacío mientras se enfrenta a todas sus malas acciones.Historias reales, testimonios que estremecen y preguntas profundas sobre la vida, la muerte… y lo que existe entre ambas.¿Qué viste tú cuando estuviste a punto de morir?Déjalo en los comentarios 👇

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Some are having seen a others, something that not to describe and

others with eyes as as as because nobody

know that there is a a mark, and advertency and this night, you'll you'll hear you

stories of who've crossed the umbral and regressarer with the certainty that not all they're, they'll,

they're only only. Welcome. Welcome. How much. How are you to be welcome to a chapter more

of podcast extraanormal. My name is Paco Arias and I'm happy to be in a chapter for all of you. Experiences at the one of the

things more interesting with more mystery and that many people have experimented this to this to this

different. Some people think that exists a sky, that exists an infirno, that exists

a purgatory or that simply there's nothing on the other side of the umbral.

To talk to this time, me accompany a person very special, a crack in the

production and post-production and that really, me does that come that has accepted

this invitation. Felipe Cendejas. How you're brother. Paquito, much more than you. I'm excited to connect with,

with your public, with your audience. I'm really very very honrado. Much of this great invitation. Thank you. Thank you for

accept the invitation. I know that much people will record your voice, will record to have seen in investigations

of camp, explorations, with a great, too, but for the people that you're seeing

for the first for favor me would be to presentes. Who are, to you do you, to do you

social, correct. Look, well, not much people know me know, the fact, I'm really, I'm Philip Sandejas, I'm

a producer of television and content digital. For seven years, more or I'm doing the

program of the major success in the world paranormal in the television Mexican called

extra normal. And today I'm a day I'm a man with Octavio Elisondo, it's

called Invisible, for favor see us, Octavio Elisondo, Invis, with whom I'm

in the camp, no, behind a scriptorio, directing an orchestra, but not standing just in the camp. And,

and cruisando velo, Paco. Crucating and seeing this, this passion that I've been for the approach to

the world of what we don't we don't the world of the invisible. My reds Facebook and I'm back

Cendejas in all I'm going to get to connect with your audience, that's marvell no, thanks

my family, family, for favor, remember that the rest social on the description

for you know you know the work that they're doing, I'm

also the master Octavio Lizondo and there in episodes very

good. Herman, fiftate that many people people me

send their stories telling me many things that

have lived between these phenomena and we know

we know there there one in particular that

always me has that all experiment in the same. And that despirte much my interest. The thing of the

experiences nearer to the death. People who have said, Paco, is that I was that was in

life, no see, many seconds, tantos, and I regress. And people that are,

I'm not, I'm there, and I'm not. And it's like one of the things that does a

little of a bit more, because you don't see nothing, no, I see a the sky.

Acos, when I die, all, all is all of the all of the dark,

you know, you're still you're not quite of your own your own and there's people who

have written other things that here I'm going to know, but you're what you think you

think of all this. It's the first great fear of the humanity

since we're is the only guaranteed that we have we're

that we we're we're we're all we we're and a Through the tradition

written religious, the cinema, the first grand meadow has been in

best of teaching us to understand to understand the murder, we're they're

to them, to us to bring us to get to there's

many people have many testives of these experiences and that

not just a person special. I think that all the humanity are specials, not more that some if we've got to get, and others, not so. There are three types of experiences.

Okay. And all have an explanation, Paco. All has an explanation because one are obscures, because others are neutra, and others are celestes

that they're called. Those that is a place a black, marvellous, those who see something neutral, that can't to be their

body, standing like if were a species of a phantasm, and it's a experience is nearer to the death

that no much people is not much that's that's

the that's the kind of I'm think you to be to be to be

talking some some and so I'm interested much that you

narrs for there a experience that I had

I had I did this he did it and

I know but but I'm to talk this

because more more a story is an experience

is a something you but, for people, don't go, kettens,

because this episode you're going to be thinking in a million things. So, prepare, if I want to

talk to a story of my dearie. This story is titled my accident.

We'll us, we'll have a person, a person of a man, and we

and we know of one of the things that until the day of the day of after

the time he doesn't he doesn't, he knows that this occurred in a madrugada

he was with high degrees of alcohol and he was

in his motorcycle and well but not a context

to understand how function the story he he

he he he and his her and his

just his pap he he his mom she

saw per obviously in this situation looking to

get a two children in the mom says that he got

to get a lot of people and to keep using

and getting the support for his family in

this lapso there a person very important the

Tio Too the Tio was the man a person

that a person that was that was a family

and he says for many then a familyar more, for me, my Tio Toonio, was my father.

It was the man who did to do the function that my father no did, and the

really I'm very grateful. This sir was, he forjow, me he gave values, me

he taught from very young. This person, Omar, he started to work. So,

it was that he not took. Even he said that when he was having malos

ratos or problems, says that this man he said a man a man, he's a man,

he's a always, he'd have to this paladita that many times is necessary. So, so that's

his life. With the time, I think that the good that he put to pass

to my mother was that my father was to let us or not because

then I didn't think how was that he was the person of the father were

so, so good what what was that passed. From young

he started and said when he said when he's about 16 17 years he's

a motorcycle so he was his anel of him with his friends and when

he he comes the 19 years his friends he says

that Omar come we're going we're to we're

to you know the bottle there's there of liquor, alcohol and more

alcohol and says I'm to take so, but it was my birthday and I

had to give, now I'm now, now the opportunity to do and I'm

to do you to make. But I decided, then I just, I'm on the

me and I started. And he said, I'm embriagued, I'm embriagued

but pastidissimo to the chanklas, as we say we're like, like

at the one of the morning her mom, he started to mark

one one one time after another after another but

they're called of desperation for supposed. And he he said,

and he don't he'll go to because if you know that I'm

that I know, that yeah he's that I'm that I'm that I'm talking

all ebri and I say no no, well then I'm no, then I'm

never tomorrow I'm to be because He's going to preoccupate. He,

he went, and his mom he still marking. Dier on the morning, did it on

the three of the morning. After the four of the morning, his mom

he still mark with desperation. Then he says, yeah, I think that I'm

going, I'm going, he said he's up to his motor, arranca the

motor, and I want to read textual this because the really

so me make very very I was rapid, Demasio rapidly. Sentia

the eyes pesed how my my, my eyes were going

and little. And of so I did I did the control of my

motocleta. What I remember is that all about the worldas. I

remember to start tired. Sentia the head tibia like

humida and I'm like humidate in the coo and

like calientitit the casco that my my tio me had regalado I remember to have felt that

was a lot of the last that I'm listening many noises and hear

also voices of people that's going and about the voice of

a man that me said he for father keep

with you don't you don't you don't you feel more

people me so on a species of camilla, me subven to the ambulance. And there's the typical the ambulance. That noise, I said that me martyjiava the head.

I don't talk, for a strange reason, I could talk, and I had a badsadence. It was like a dream,

you know, like when you're very can't and you are getting dormido. He said, de pronto,

sentia that all the luses were paving, I feltia that in any moment I'm going to when I'm going to when I'm

my tio I'm at a little I'm sitting I thought I'm sure he's entered of my

accident, he got to he's coming me I just only I'm but I'm but I'm

so I'm his rostro his rostro his factions molestas like when I was when I was

a kid and me regania and I I remember that I I wanted to but he he spoke

first and what he said me impressioned much because he started to reagan his words are that

no, that no, that not, that not you can't leave to your mother and to

your mother and not you do you do you do you do you don't

for favor and say I'm I could talk and the only

that he He said, I'm going to go to and he said that his tio he said

that's a same phrase that he he said he said a man a man, a man,

a man, so he he said, he took my man and like he fell in a dream.

The other that he remember is to be starting in the hospital. He said

that I heard to someone to cry and I sent to the last the of

someone in his brazo and he said he's like he said he's not

he said like he's he said his mom to see that his mother and he said

his mom the first he said doctor doctor doctor doctor yeah he's

he said that get the doctors rapidly they're to be to be to

see how he's I'm quick to recobral concience all, me dothalions, me dole, the body,

he had a bunch of fractures very, very very fertes. And if I was the only that I asked, my Tio, where is? What do you

think is, there's, there was a reason for the while his mom, he was

making all the night. He said, Moma, where is my my Tio? Your

Tio died the same night than you. I'm you're making for

that Because me about your Tia. In the factory, your Trio took

an accident. Perdi the life. You're I'm making. But never me

contested. Evidently, he, he says is that, is that no, I was he,

he was with me, he was in the ambulance, he said, no. For that

that time, your Tio had had been to have fallen. And at final,

Omar me And he says, that phrase that he said in the ambulance, no you can't to your mother and to your mother's for me,

I had a a sense major. His words me gave a force to to open the eyes and

not to do you. You think that this was something of his mind or really

if he gave his tio, in spirit in essence to, I don't see, to give this

force? You what do you think? Look, Paco, during my life has been a

type very rational justly for, for having experimented this, no?

Here I see two things, Omar. Omar, if he was in what a

sometimes he called the quarter. It's an experience to the

murder, but was, not was, not was so far because his state

was a, was a ced-ed, no? No, not was in the grade that scientifically

they're in the part corticordial of the cerebrose that segregate these dm-tes or substances

that make that hallucines and say the science was cedado. So, it was like that was in

an room with a suon lucid, where is this personage spiritual,

no, of apego with him. It's something that nobody will be able to

to explain. The same science, no can't explain. No, they're because there's activity cerebral when even there are cerebrals that you have no

have been oxygen. Yes, I think there's a connection. We talked about about the intuition. I, when me did you

did a fool a bad history because you talked about the intuition, I felt that was the mind, I thought,

that was going to say, what is going to all the time is going. For sure. So, but we don't know

we're the other part of the here, here me, me, made you feel something a very strange, Paco, because... This, what, what, this that's what I called

the Intercambio. I, look, in a manner very personal, I'd like to just as Omar that had that last so fraternal with with his tio,

a vincul, so circano. I also, I also took the Mio. Okay. And that was my brother, Pepe. When we were very young,

we decided to escape. He lived in the United. And we decided to escape us. For some things there, when one is a adolescent, he's a little bit and he's the most rebelde of the world. And, oh, yeah, I'm in my house. I want to get, too, and leave me with

with you. Well, total, it's to come to Mexico. After 10 years to not being for me. And we we were going to pass the frontera in a way legal, Paco. Like American Citizen. So, before it was super-facil, no? Yeah. You were you best, you were in mono, all the

and all right, American Citizen. And something, I mean, initially, let's talk about the theme of the intuition, because initially I mean, I'd have scared of the avions. And there began that fear to those avioles. Sentia rarer rarrow to get me to the avion. Me sentia like entomecided. All my

body started to vibrate. It was going to be to pass. So, since I

went to emceived. Just when we were to the frontier, that was the Mexical

in 1999. And when the frontera was the sensations of something to

something I was really I'm totally in my man. And he

was free, it was not going to be not in that moment, Paco, they're

some people and they're to start to my brother into my eyes. We've got two

maletones gigantees and I saw that they were in my brother and was trying and they

had to jolonear and get other and they were and they're to do and I'm

a observator was a expectant petrified for the fear. No, I know

was if was a petrificed. In that moment so I'm so I'm and they're going to get to a

a, a a coche-blank. To the cajuela. But I don't do nothing. I'm immutte, no, nothing. I just went in the cajula,

I remember that accelerated and I, I saw for an an abuheritit that I, I, call lexico, that is

in marias, and fululas, I'd seen. I was I had seen. that I've had a pesadilla that's when you when you're in the night and you have mal-estat

and you're just, vomiting and all the roo. I had passed, I had seen those lights, and I'd have been vomiting. Fiatte, many years, but, well, the case is that in that moment I felt, I said, this, yeah,

I've had lived, I've been here. I've been here. Ah. I don't you're going to do the quote so long. The case is that was a band like in that moment of usance

was that transported people, they were in a community mappolyeros and so. But they started the time of sequester

rapidly to the people and they paid money to the family to let them. So, and well,

they were of the first of the first clients. So they said, yeah, we're going to talk to

him, blah, blah, blah. And I heard that they're going to be them. And we need

we need to tant, tant, tant, tant, the typical of the terror that mark these people.

I don't know how was the issue, but the case is that I was in that cajula, like, seven days, or something.

Seven days? Yeah, so much time. Then just opened and they'd have to do peace and so, no? And other way. But like, they were constantly. Termin'amos in a house

like security. I remember that the windows were full of, of the madera, and I remember that I'm taught you, I'd be able to go to the room and I'd pay a permission and I always

kept, like, very, very pacific. And they're also, in some manner, no, like, they're

still, they're not quite they're so much, the case they're saying,

they're they're a lot, let's let's get this cabone, and we

get us in the caron, and we met them in a caronet a double

cabina and and you do you I see a cause to all, no, I

me scond, and we and we're they're like to and we're and us make sure

to make to the road of the highway and a carreter and make

that make in a tube like a see a a tube between the freeway that's the

carretera and the camp, the fields that they call them. So, there only a tube

like a tube like it's drainage. The drainage like that was for that

the water pass for there. So me said, metete to to be

that the that I would be to be that could be to be it.

It was calexico enero, a frio a frio spantoso that my my

didn't even don't get to rechinar Paco it's more I'm in my in my moment

I said and he's gonna to get those because I could be I'm

incredible of how temblable my body was impressive and I said

Basta we I want to I'm I can't don't don't

do you don't to be physiologically not I said why not I don't know, I try to

cover me, and no could, because I was all immobilized. I don't know how time passed of that that I've had various

thoughts in that moment. No, I thought in nobody, no thought in my family, just I

thought in how I would have to be to be to be going to be to be able to

the knees. In a moment, Paco, of a And then, my body's reinded.

Now, I know, I'm saying. And when that's what I was going to see, I still, I, I'm seeing other, other entomberna. I said, oh, hey, whey, that chido. So, it's a different. I'm going to say, yeah, for fin, I'm going to stay, I'm

He was just can't of the pain of the of the dark of the dark was in a tunnel and of a sudden

I began to feel like this light impressionant so black when when you see

a focal like a lampra I don't I can describe still in the

words of the sensation but but it was black black,

black, black, very blank, like you put a And in that effect celestial or of the

I was conscious of that I had my body and then me would have to be and not me be to the arms and the hands and I was a bit curious because

I said, who's what, what, what, what is it was going to be and I was it was black, black,

and all was so, but I still still felt a movement in my arms, so like this conscience

I said, I, I could move but what I began to I don't feel there, Paco,

until the date, I can't describe, no I can describe that sentiment, that emotion, is it's like

an amor incommesurable, like, like, it's, I think there's, like when

you see colors, that you know says when you're like, like, I don't know

how, I don't how, don't know how to The thing is that I'm and I still

I don't I'm I'm sure but it's very curious that I that I didn't

the first was the first that I'm something was a yeah and I think we

we're not special in me I think I'm I'm just I'm I'm just

I'm because I'm so I'm this is this is sent in peace in a pass

in a pass incredible it was a gosos a Felicidad. I know, it's like

like I'm like I recorded, yeah recorded this so I'm I'm here and in this moment I

there's a there's a part that I'm the chispa and the chispa is the record what you

enlaza the world and I started in my brother I'm what I'm

what I'm what I'm what I'm what's going to do I'm not going to my papas

so if me what I'm going to be my brother's super preoccupied. But this

is a big chido I'm I'm sure my mom how's going to put Pepe

not going with the cause if something where I'm where I but

at a bit I was so strange it was like a

was a dialogue internal ohho and I don't and I was

so that was a dialogue with a dialogue with me me and and however,

no I was I'm not even I didn't see a I'm a nobody that

it was a completely in a space that no a tunnel only was a

much a lot a space black in horizon but but full of

light and my thoughts was the only that me gave a chispa

to record that there was a thing there's a little and just

when I'm like I'm going to be able to be like in the front visualized

a little a little a little and that chispa green

and be to grow to grow to grow and of

and of all people grittam and I no I don't

I was so all those desperated and I just out of I said what I'm

yeah I'm so you see what what that what's what and

and me started to talk or so like to get and

and it put on on there there was a

woman and these two types and they're like to cover me.

To give you a cold. A cold. In a while I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to tremble. The sound that I'm going to say was more or less what I heard. It was like a... Something

impressive, Paco. Like, like, if you, would be able to do. So, spantoso. Frereo, ruidos. I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, what's going? Yeah.

And no, descovige, you know? It's like, I changed of the scenario and I said is that's it's a morado

this and it's all this all right and it was blue and of colors and they were

super preoccupied and they were to see his cars and since

so I know I saw that I had something that I had been

hypotermia no I don't say if I'm that I was that

I'm in a place that record that I had been. And with the time

Paco, it was one of the motors that made to make an explanation of what is

that the world, the world of the invisible. A on the

story of Omar me makes much echo because to me in the personal,

that chispa of the that I talk, that the name of this person,

this that you has to connect to connect with this was my brother in my case.

What he made record to know, what he made to get for him.

For many years, this time never never in my

family. In 2017, my brother unfortunately fell in an

accident in a trip with his friends was fatal

and and it was very curious because So, his friends

said that he was presentientienting the murder because one night before there's they're playing this song of a group

called a third-Cle that's called I, I, you I'm I'm and they're

and they're recording a video and my brother is with his eyes like in the nothing

and they're they said no, I just said, no, I just said to do Alupac

when I saw that when I When I saw that video of my brother, I said, no, he not, he not was presentientienting his murder. He was

presentienting the me. And in that moment, I was very a very and it was very curious, Paco, but I said, no, he's, he's

not because he's going to die, he, if I think that I'm going to die, you. That's what I felt, how I saw the video.

And, and it was curious, Pa, but after his death, after his novenario, what he did in Michoacan? Yeah. No, you're worried, man. After his novenary,

I'm going to recover my health, Pa. It's the famous interchamble that you mentiones. Like, how's chisped, I mean, I never

I mean, he has done this interchamble energetic. I go, for God, he's, he's, they're his designions,

and not I'm saying that my brother had been able to me, and much less. But I felt a time

so with this interchamble, I said, well, what happened? And I, and I'm recuperer impressionantly.

I mean, nine days, I recupered 10 kilos of a piece. It was a palo. Wow.

In my case, they'd have, they were to be a car, they were the I'm sure. No, manches, my

this story that you I go, that's an experience that you tell you, me provokers the same that the first that I've heard. Because it's curious, I've mentioned that I've hunged when I had 12 years.

And there's a moment where all the emotions humanas can't. And you're just you. You know. And it's

It's a beautiful. It's a beautiful. It's an experience that no can't describe. But when you're on this side,

I recorded or I'm I'm trying to understand this explanation is like if they're a cachedada.

So, so, so, of, the, the goal of emotions and

sensations that get to your body. And I say something, the life is

bella. The life is bella, is but compared with what there is, no, no

I don't know I mean, no I want to sonar or no I want to that's my commentary but this

plan physical no can't in the absolute for nothing as in the other

other side. Totally different is Paco. Here, here there is there's

so so I'm so you can't say, all you can't doleer,

all So we're so so we're so we're a costal of the wessos and the same. And all dole, all you're

all the fact of being here, now I'm now I'm understand perfectly when they're saying

that we're trying to to look a cresimient spiritual, mental to be other and to

be this type of to be able to transcendent for that we're just we're trying to do

this change to be good people even maybe if it's so it's a little, I'm nostic,

I mean, to get us sprending the world physical, to go to more a thing spiritual,

and to get that transcendence, because if we don't we're going to get to get it.

That's just that. I don't want to romanticize that. For the time.

The experience that's to the life. There's the celeste like the

that I see, and I think, I've done since because since I've been found

with people that I have been got to for the incitut and apart for the

work me get to these people. It's more, I'm talking of this experience right. I'm sure that in an airport in where I'm going to

find something. I'm going to find out of this case and I'm encounter with people that have been there, we're we're not, okay? Yeah.

Oh, I insist. No, no, does specials. Simply, we know, because I think the murder, the murder is made

to recognize the way. That's. To recognize that all the opportunity and that the universe still still

still confiating in us. God is still still confi after the days. So, to start,

we're in the murder all the day. Our Cerebro physiologically is going to die a while. All the day

we're going to do you. In the sunno, you don't know and they're normal. It's normalized

all the time to do you know, and I, is that I'm very monitats. Well,

you're in your life, you're in your life, you're in your life, but you're not

you're a moment. For so and all the days, of the really, it's a

new opportunity to initiate. So, okay. And, and we don't we're romanticize the fact of to say that the

other side is more because, oh, yeah, just. We're here, and, oh, also, we're not just to

suffer, okay? Because we don't know to romanticize that. So, what has what we have made,

that we're in this valley of the cross. Cargat your cross. That,

that phrase. The God that's made a, He only only we need that we understand

he's he's he's he's he's he's he did the act of

more more more more about a thing religious he he he did

so he he was saying paco what is what is what he was a

love incomesurable and not he's a love to a love to

a person because one of his family love to your mom to your

wife your spouse to your spouse to your mascots. But no is that that love what I

felt, Paco, is another thing. It's much more great. No, manches.

It's another thing completely different. And we think I, this is my opinion

very personal. I think we're in this trap of not to not understand

that essence real of love. Because there are other there are

infirno, but in reality is the absence of the is the neutral

or in the phantasmas Paco, when I go looking phantasmas and I think the people know that's

something I'm know that there's much people very sensible and I know our people and I'm

people are people are people and they are those phantasm and it's that those

we call with phantasmas are invisible are those are essences of persons neutras that don't

know where they're or never they're never they're or they're things pendenters here and

don't want to change the world. Just they're. They're trapped. And why? So,

that's just exactly. Fidgette that, I don't see, I don't know, this

thing, I always me, me, me, me, it's curious because

this collier I've been using since many years. No, it's an amuletto,

I'm the dependent, ah, is an amulet, no, no,

no, it's an amulet, muletto, simply it's simply I was and I decided to use it.

So, no, no, for me to represent maybe the geometry of the universe.

The universe is perfect. But when I was talking with Philip of this of when I was when I

awed and he, when he gave this hypotermia, and he said, look, and he's

see, and I have the same collier than I. The actually, look, not is

a brom. Here is there. There's. Only that I don't use because I I'm here, I'm here, but it's the same circle. And it's the same. And it was like, and I said Paco, ah, is that he was like, like, a geometry

interlaced, is a triangle, and is the quadrado. And I said, it's the union of two planes. It's the plan of physical and the plan of spiritual. It's correct. And obviously, they're all right, and they're going to be apart, but they're always, they're

unyending. So, I go to me, me volu much the head of that's, my, wow, I want to

want to talk about something. Look, this case, God, my,

this case, me, moved much much. Susanna is a woman

that we write. She us said that in the 2014, approximately lived one

of the things more more than as a human you can

you can live as as a mother also. Perder a

your son seven years in an accident. The ultimate

scene of Susanna of his his is to see

in the carter in the poor form. She me said

I pass moments with my good good that

I never will forget but But unfortunately, the ultimate scene that

had of him was the worst scene. It was the peor scene.

She intended to do everything to do all to help. But

also was in this shock because was a shock automobilistic. His

husband was was inconsient and she and she he said, and she

also I probably had been been been Like, you know, but the last that she saw was this scene,

so tragic. It was, they've been to the hospital. Oh, evidently, this new year since that was there, yeah, yeah, I've alreadyed the life. Since the 2014, this woman took a depression very strong. And she said,

me despidier. No, me important. I was I was I'm I'm and I'm never to

the camera no I wanted to come not I didn't live and not

I'm to maldecy to what say to what that that's that I'm

I'm I'm to maldecy why always the question for what to me

for why and that all the time I said I I'm

legions, they'd have families and that we're to be, we're going to talk, we're going to

get the world and get to me interest. No, me interest to listen to what she said,

of the God and the man. No me interest. Largence. She

was like said we're very, very solitary. His matrimonio was all point to runperse

because evidently the life still, but she she kept there.

And she didn't want to get to see. She

started to have these things to attack to

their because this this world has nothing for

me. Yeah it was all what was that

was there. There something that had a that did

that did a pass in this point she she

was conscious of that needed help. And it was when she started help

help professional to try to get from the old. And here is where she's

where she started to take many many things, he started to take

many things. And only was to be dormit, start

dormida. One of these nights she had had a dream

with his his he presented to the court

but this man he and he says I'm I'm

I'm so I need I need to get here with me come

with me you know you know you she she was she

she I'm I'm I'm to be to be to be to

he he he needs he I'm rapidly he he

was he got the bot of antidepress he

got a a And she ingrived. She said that she said a piece of but so,

brutal. A pesed a lot of a lot of a lot of maryos of all the all rightos of

my camera and I didn't even to get to the camera she and said that she

she still still was being like the piece so her mind was active was

seeing the the soil, the sills, the salas, I was doing it and of a

point, it's to put to put like different, came you all.

All was never. And it said that between the obscuridad someone

went coming coming coming. When that someone was coming when that

someone had taken he got that that someone had a name was

his his his He came. And she, when he says, yeah, I'm here. Yeah, I'm where you want to be.

I was saying that he was just where he wanted he wanted he he wanted he said. But this man, he gets two

meters of her and he's going to get to be to her. He started to read, she started to reire,

to carcagear and she but what What does? No, no, no, I didn't nothing. And his boy was still burlando. But he said

that his mind not the same. It was different. It was very different. His rostro,

his eyes, his sonrisa, was so a general to his his appearance,

his energy, no was, he was, he was a much fear. But this

that was there, he was burlable of her, but I started to say a

lot of things despective and words irientes he he started

she she understood that no did do you did

do she resigned only what me is I I went

the I'm I'm pardon I I'm I recuperer

a little of all the humility that he

had had been to what that he had to be around. He said

that he had to be doing but that would be a pieted

of me. That not me to be that I would be that I had

that had my my son he said that she said that

she she says these words like that's like

a light but comes like it's it like

a circle a little that's coming and so and so

this circle is like a tunnel after and here here it's like

you also see the light it's like if you have a light

front to the front of the front of a vehicle enormous to be the light

she she she just to see to be to see

to be to and only he saw to see

to another that that was that is he

was And he said, I, Paco. It was. Camino. His eyes, his sonrisa, his

his hair, his color. It was he. He said, I, in when I go, I'm going,

and I said, my love, how is this he's, he said, my he only

me, me, me, me, I was, me, I was, but no

about, only me observable. But with a look a of an And he says, I don't

I'd have to I don't I'd love to I'm and then he said momita only

me they're a instant you know you're not you're I'm here you're going to you're

to be here you're you're I'm sorry I'm he said he's he said

he said how much time passed but he was he was about seeing

again that that sensation that She had seen for more

that had been in a amazable, for more that he had a

other again, he was to see that so real, that aroma

of his child, of his baby. He's that the little he

a carice to the mehia, like he has that has she has to be.

And she begins to open the eyes, like all to be

to start, the sound the sound of these like monitors that are in

the hospital that are seeing your signals vitales. He said, I'm a mom,

I'm a my husband, I've seen my father. All were there. All were still

were waiting that you were to start. A part of that she could

recobrar his life. I could to be the woman that was,

could get a job, could be to get to do you. And

there at the I remember that me he says all I'm but I

have a question so great when we're we're we're

we're this always there always a phrase that that's

repeat a only me just me just me just

we're we're we're talking who who who who

can who can permit God? What is this, I don't know. What, what do you?

Look, it's a quite esperanzator. I think all in some moment we've passed

for this process of the duelo, that is one of the moments most most of your life.

Of course. Never, never, never it never, to do you a lot of my

my brother, and I saw my father with the murder of my brother, because that, Paco, no has a name.

For sure. One can't get an orphan. One can't beiude. Yes. But to get without his

kids, he can't even name, Pa. So, so it's the problem that they can, because

naturally, not it's not natural. No, no, no, no, it's natural. For sure. That,

that, that some, that are, to enter to his son. Sin, but for me was a process

very complicated, Paco. Because me doleo much. As a way, when I saw when super the news,

I got some of my, and that vacu-se kept there. I've in a boule for

much time, giving the world, and the world, and just I was in my

mind the moment in the news of my brother. Pepe was the only that

was the only that I was so yeah, for much time, three, four months, and,

until, a day all came change. And it's there where I don't see if confirm that permission or that presence or how do it, but

if they're talking. So, if there's a point in that they see that you're going to be that not you're doing and there's a moment in what my own, it's a way very curiously. A me, me they're curiously, I'm in San Luis

Potosy, and me they say, Philippe, we're going to return to extra normal to Canada National. It's I was straighting in the channel of Amas, and you need us for this project. But I was in San Luis, I was after much suffering.

It was, like, very well, despite of my brother. I said, no, I don't want to move at any other. I mean, I'm still here. But I'd be a father. And I'm just like, I'm trying to, I was

when you're doing a problem that you know what's going to say or say. And in that night, I remember that I I, I was out of nathed. I'd go to those days in the night, and I was to go to my house.

And I sat there, I did and I did, hey, P, P, P, P, what I do? And I'm I'd get to be done. Well, that he's called

for telephone, Pac. And I'm, well, what on, carnal? Nig, nigg, niggas. And I said, it was a much chistos. And I was, hey, whey, how you're,

but I knew that's, but I knew that he's not I don't know. And he, like, no, manches, boy, fiat, that I'm

here, he's doing this and blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, whey, you're you? I said, in the telephone, I know,

I'm, you know, he said, oh, man, me to Guadalajara. No, manches, go, go to Guadalajara.

I pass, so I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to see, we, we're going to go, we're going to to do the projects that we have

together. So, if do it, is more, I'm going to be going to be able to be able to

you. When he said that's I'm going to get. Desperte. Without that,

without that I'm going to go to Valhara. And since I know that's there. So I'm much in

that sentiment Paco, of, to say, well, okay, if they're there,

that's this time, to be to be reading, because finally one is in this world because he's got in my brother.

But I said, why me dole because the part this egoista my, is that dole so your presence to, or so

dole, pardon, dole... His absence. Dole to not to have those? Yeah. Although I see

that there is marvellouso. But it's the part egoista that we get to us to get to that pain.

Never you're going to always you're going to remember those and that's the part that you're doing.

A learn to learn to learn to be to live only to live only to live only to live that you

don't mean you I remember about him and I'm and I'm always I'm never you're going to

never so you're going to keep, never he's a real that he was really bad that he was that they're

not the movies of the other and sometimes I put in to say what have

passed. So, that has passed for his moment

in that moment. And I think that the parts that I

would say, have you have suffered? Because he got from

a raser and he was disparated then he

got the head in the concrete and a friend no

so crudam and he says no you don't don't

suffer nothing no didn't no didn't he Okay.

And then when I, when they they opened the focus, I know, they're on the other focus, no, they extended the, the fourth. For sure. And I said, and of a repent,

I thought, and if, and if, was listening? And if I was thinking things, or how to your mind?

Because here is when I'm, of that part of that, of that, of that encounter to the murder,

that not is the, not is the neutral, how it was this woman, no, that was, when you were

narrating, when they're when you come in the pasties that

he's to get to get to and how it's that I'm that I'm

that that's definitely it's not a very very very

very and are the and they are that you want to I'm

trying to understand and I'm to sound very repetitive or

or that very romantic in mention the thing the

vibration of the person because the state vibrational

of this woman, evidently it was an imam, attractia. Attrajo something that at the final

of the point, he gave opportunity, took this appearance, he called, she said, she said,

to, to take this decision that she was, she was thinking, and was

machiland, and only needed that that partadita and he did. But I

always said, we've said, we're not the only, in this moment,

he made present something that evidently demostro that

was the truth and what is what was what was false no fission

you want to give something more a story let

let look to be to be honest that this

story not for this episode because no no

no no no do with the normative or with

the line permitted to to tell something because it's a story that is a

little very very very this story is an anonymous is a a child

of Mexico she says that she has a 35 years experimented something but

not was directly an experience a near the death was to be

to the death that is very different here not we We're not just about

in the process. Okay. We're talking of the death. Okay, with a presence. Like,

presence. As a second of shegidora of her. As a part of this cult. Okay.

She said that he lived in house of his parents, he had two two children,

had had been a real relation with his pairjas, and I would say

so, it was of the life galante. She said that Vendying Ropa Interior.

And apart, in the nights, I'd work in a bar, fiching, and she me say textual. Yeah, I was accustomed to her form to live, and he was to take

to the end to her kids. She always with the hope of the house of his parents, because the house of

his parents was to conviv with with perros and gaitos. The papa alcoholic, mom,

uh, absent, with problems emotional. then she was she was a form of and that was

the form that she could encounter. Well, he said in one occasion he was going

very well, had been had been a good event that night he was very good good

good, he was good good and he said I was I was with a friend a man

a man that he came bad to my papa. I remember that he he was

to the house my friend, and just getting to the house, my papa was alcoholized. The normal. He was playing with my

mom, so they were in menaceing, blah, blah, blah. When I see, when I get to, like, you know,

you know, and you know, and this, I just, like, just, like, you know, and that's

that I'm going getting, no? And he says, how I was going to go to the friend, no,

no, no, no, no, no, don't me to say commentaries very despotiv

of the chico for being but he he's to insults and he yeah,

papa, relaxate, he's my man, we've been to work, no, that's

and if don't see and let's let's be to get to your kids and the chinkas

the father yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, that's the opportunity that I'm that's

the opportunity that I'm to say, let me me Echens your ropita. Maynara, we've been for the other. Ah, yeah, let's.

Larnse, largents. And he said, my papa he doesn't take patadas. But I was so enoched of that I

didn't want to he said, I'm going. He's enoched more. That's he said, let me.

You're going to. You're going to. Ermano, you know what means these words that come of your

father. To do you. Of your mom. Yeah. And he said, no, me dole, because it was very alcoholized. I said, he's talking

without thinking, wow, it's fine. And we said, we're all-sales, all this. Me kept in casa of him. He made an hospadege. I said,

just, here, just, I was thinking to go to a house of a tia, that he wants much, blah, blah, blah. At the day the next day next,

he's going to work, at the same bar. He said, I'm, I'm old. I, I'm going to

the job, So I'm going to have my personal. Here I have to chambia. And that night painted well and he's

I was with a man that was I was just to be with him, this, me was doing

good money, blah, blah, blah. If of soon get three persons at bar.

Two, like between 35, 40, and one, that was a more than,

well, one, the 16, 16, 17 years. The types malencarated see that, evidently

they were mannowsos. But more the young, says, see, that's the peorcito of all. At past the rato,

he said that the messer, he's saying, hey, you're asking. Be with them. And say, he says,

no, no, no, no. I'm going to be going well, here I'm going, I'm going, I'm going,

he's going, he says, he says, oh, yeah, you're, you're asking, and no they're

to say, Now, I see, like he was... Dondale, my jop, poor. O'Rele, opurate, no? And, say, I understand. It's, okay? Me, I've despeded the caballero. He said, I go with these people.

Evidently, a incommodity. He said, but I am I professional in what I do. I'm not very dulce, very servicial. The chavo, the young, this is he, me sent to the forces in his piernas. And there, this, he says, ah, the fact, that is a very good. he and the other two.

But, animos, this is what I do, say, try to me always. He's like,

you know, is to be a tranquil, he's, stay, I'm trying. He's, he wants,

do you want, ask you want to do you fashos of viettes. You, do what you

want, you know, what you want, and what you more and more, and more, and more.

After, he said, he said, hey, I want, he's, he's, oh,

yeah. And he She'd say, yeah, no, is that I don't do. How, what do you do? And, he says, that agarra, he's a second. To say, I'll go back to repeat. I want a private.

He's, what you do you? It's, okay. It's fine, it's fine. Alright, well. And yeah, I'll to the mecero, says, to arrive to the bar, there are some quarters, they're they're going to prepare. We're

prepare one. We're in these of these quarters that only has a camera, has a spejo enormous of the size of the wall.

We're there. The type literally, me starts to get to the thing aggressive. O'Rale,

cusat, quittate all. Dice, okay, it's all she, she's not

going to discuss. Dice, but it was inevitable that I felt fear. He said

that this type, before he said, Oye, you know, you know, you know,

he said, he said, he said, no, no, don't you don't be the preservative

and the guy, and the guy, he said, I said, I think, I said, you know,

in the a rattito that he went, he said, he said, he said, no,

aback to the other two, he's, I'm going to want to say,

the guy, said, he said, he He said, Icha,

quitate all. And me will say, you know, I'm sorry. Yeah, me quitted

all. And so, well, he said, and she and she me do so, and I

want to read textual actually, a past that I did it to this

night, I'm violated. The type abus of me of the

two forms, without consentiment, without. No I didn't do anything. If I did something, the type, the pistol, he was there.

He had much fear. I said, I was like inert. I was like petrified. I mean, I don't think about anything. I was paralyzed. Yeah, after a while, the type, well, it's sacia.

I'll hallo my and I'm going to get. And the type, well, yeah, happy, tranquill. And he will say, I have

you know, and he will be to answer the same? No, no, I don't

I'm a inkate. And he said she what? That, that you

inkees, Pendeja, incate. And in that moment he'll he got to his pistola,

corte cartucho, me inco, I'm I'm, I go all what

and I see the fierro, the metal of the pistol here. In this moment the only that's is yeah.

After I came, I remember of my kids. My kids are in house,

of my my tia, my papas. But, so, he said, I'm,

the words of his father. Largate. Ohal that you you matting.

The words of his father again were going to say

that's after I'm my my kids and all the words that my

father me said he said that he said something he

was a extraordinary this this woman pertenes to the

cult of the murder or of the the mother and

you like you just only there about and

he I said, and this man, standing a point of imagine the scene, delante of them, is there the space enormous. He said the people, I said, I know the

eyes, he was waiting the moment that the type actionar. Dice, when I open the eyes, I see that the man, he's being with a rostro of fear, to see the face.

When I see, when I see the mirror, after me, there was. enormous, grand imponent

this subject was totally paralyzed of fear he said he was looking

to look at the picture intending what was what was it was evident

I said I was I was I felt a pass incredible and said that the

man he was his man his man started to do his rapidly

he He said, I'm I'm going to go to I'm going to what is that because he's like he

started to think he's going to trypies on the escalers and say I was I'm looking

I'm like he rapidly his friends he said like what what did you want to

come over me no way let's let's let's no no no the type

said I wanted I wanted I said I wanted to say I was what I

did you he had I had you let her let her and like he he'll

the other two types like they are in the eyes like, and what?

So, they're they're going. And she said that day I

saw, I found of that that this theme is more than the stories,

of the relats. That day he's manifesto something in that

courtito above of that bar. And you think that was the death, the

Deidat How much? No, I don't know I'm, no I know. Well,

I can say what I think I've heard, I've seen, I've heard of

my baggage, I've seen a and I'm still sordinated the argument of that the murder simply

revela who is. Okay? Existe to revelart who is. and that you're here, if you've

encountered the reason, you're going to find out of the day. Those people that are that's a lot of power, is a thing of power, is a

thing of much obscurity that they're in their lives and also they're in a process. I think

she, I, I think that she at the moment of renders, to renders, to renders, to renders, to

rending your work because he's he said, he said, he said,

and he said, and he went, when I was a rinded, salt to a projection

of your energy, it's revealed his energy in that's I mean, I respect

much the thing of the people, of the people who say, ah,

if at the first, it was the person, she was she was she was she she was she

the same the same, she was, she was she sentia protected for someone.

Of course. So she projected her protection. It's curious, Paco, but in

situations that me would be to be to be to be to all the people,

to all to all to all to the people, confienen in you're

in the moment. I know is that not but one has done when you

know, one you can't you're you're If you're you're going to something something

happens something you know you're you know you find out of you know

and there stories very of that now to those people that

that because we have been of what we're of this part linda

of the other side crossing that be that be that umbral

but what with the people, for example, the type this, the type of... The aggressor, the aggressor, no? What's the person? What's the whole world, we're saying,

oh, but all of the world in this life, and you know that it's correct? It's correct. Because, even if you don't crees in nothing, if you don't crees in God, if no crees in santo,

no crees in nothing, and you're saying, I'm saying, thinking scientific, rational, you're going to go to

where we're going to all the people? To be the moment, oh, that physiologically has been

a process then they're so they said well, if I don't think in nothing, if I

had a great Jesus Christ or not will be the Virgin or not will be

Krishna or not will be Buddha for me, then if I don't think I

what I'm to be and it's here where I want to tell this story

that I'm that I never had passed in my baggage but one day

I took with a person it's very curious and

these people and have been that don't like to put another

name to this person to protect but it's important

that that's important that's because ohho no I want

limit creencers no I don't want conditionarles. No I want to this for to be a conditionant of

the comportment and much less what has done much has been much of the religion, no, if you do you

do you're going, if you're going to be able to see. This person gnostica completely, no crean,

God, I think in an energy, okay? It was what said. It was was a other.

She burlava of the people, it was felt like, because was a man

is a supermement intelligent. Well, it's a man superman intelligent.

Okay. And he has a capacity, a intelligence barbarer, it's a

calculator in person. These people have this energy vital, so

impressive, that have a error, get to think they to think that all people is

a stupido minus them. So, then to be able to be able to the other, you know, that's the problem that we have the humans,

that we're going to grow, to, grow, to and yeah no is money, it's power. This man what he was to be able to submit to somebody else, that no has been afraid, even if the chava were moving to be in fear. Well, this emotion

started to grow in, I'm going to put in Francisco. He started to grow in Francisco. Every that I'd, and every that ascending because even

apparently a magic, I said, well, because if it's that cule and because he was chid no?

Uh-huh. The those the way were, it was that all flew it,

a past of the people, I'm to see, I'm I'm

I'm, yeah, he. Yeah. He was he's, where he's,

where the, where the why the malos les, he's, that's bad, that's,

no? And, so, and why the people that's good, he's

so bad that's disvirtuado that we're going to focus on the part of this type.

The case is that he no creed in nothing and he was a pardon for the francis but he was

a pendejo a day without to be it because apart he was a type

physically was attractive so he had a thing, it was attractive to exercise. It's

considered in a good state of 40, 50 years, it's a good. He said that one day

he was in his car, and the repent, he felt that he started to dole the

heart. Sintom of infartes. It's a symptom. It's a friener, because it was

very rational, something something, I'm going to get a car, and he gets to get to

get to get to get to and the moment he said, no man, me,

me's taking the shingada and it he's abient and the moment

in the moment in the moment in the thing he to be a lot to go and he was

like going to do you know, that he was doing an infarto

but here is something of the curious no, like the kind of

he did the other he did in a rarer but it makes that he

he doesn't get to get to this motor boom and in the

of the the the top in the top in the top in the head

and he says that he's to see a all normal

no there no there didn't there no there

but it's so never black black black and

and then then in the movement and he says he said he said

he he said how he metia to he got

like it like if it was like it and the And then the

caida like the Alicia in the country of when it's going to that's that's

infinite tun-tun-tun that that came and came and he had and he no get and no and not

and he and not yet and he felt frio and more frio and more free and more

frio and that came and that I didn't feel like but he was profoundly black

no there no there was nothing no sentia nothing. I'm going to

try to explain how he he'll how in his dialogue internal. He said that he

tried to do the eyes to see the he'll see a horizon no

there was a point no there nothing and when he Hey, what is this?

And every that was his dialogue internal and started to hear voices, voices, voices. Like if

also they were him. Pa, it was he. Okay. It was he. A who he

was he. He was insulting to people. He was the echo of him himself.

But every every the sound the soundions were more insuredeceders. And in

in no moment in no moment he did for for for

think in nobody of his family was thinking

in him he said he he didn't know

that were voices like that but it was but

it was so like we we we're we we're

so but it was and he he insults and

he insulted the people He says that in that in that moment of that

that he knows where is he a pocus a point in that was a moment

was a chispa was a chispa if at a p'o exists or where I'm and when

does that says that when a poco exists a boom that He felt like different. And that

he said, he said to record to his family, the chispa. Oye, the other than I said that a Tia, that's a Tia that that nobody fuma and that's alliterer, and that's always

you say, my God, God, that God, that he's going to hear a Tia, to the Tia that he said, oh, me, I came in Gora, because all the time, and the fact, was the was the, that was the

Tia still had combed. Okay. And he said, no, meet a Lupita. And he's enganched with her and he started to think in her and he started to hear

hear, listen, and he said he said, like I saw, like I saw, like, a light, but he saw a light

and he he was out of there. That he was in the pavement, if it was like contusioned

and was all overpeated and curiously, he was to do this is realio and he had

a pre-infart pa. but what he was going to to matter to the motor was the it was the goal he

he still after after after that he was he's justificing all the process because he said

it was a trauma of the corteza frontal and my drugs me did

and I did okay but because you did you the only the only

the the only the that was because why because because because with

the only person that nobody more recorded. Nobody's nobody more vized, because you're

only. That's vacuous. So I'm so I think that's the infirno. I don't

think in a place with yamaradas. I think in a place where not God.

The absence of love? The absence of love. Where no there's

that I think or that some people have seen seen, the light, the color. There no

more than you. It's the Reflejo of what you do you do you do with for these

people that are in life live in not being not being empathic insulgating

to the others all the days have an opportunity to start to start to know

I don't I don't I want that this story sound like way portate

well you don't you know you know you the

the the We have that Libre d'Albedreo to choose. And as you said every day every morning

is a day new to start. The problems always are passengers. Really, there's a problem that's

that can't resolve. The only that's the only can't resolve is the because

it's inevitable is for where we don't have to be all the problem. My

mother's my when I was when I was when I'm said, I said, I'm sorry,

I'm don't know, I'm all the solution, less the If the pedd is the money,

well, the pedo will continue, you know, but the murder, but the murder, no?

For sure. And is that, to finalize this point, I'man, I'm trying to try to

this interpretation that I have in general, of those who have an experience positive,

you with your man, the senior, with his his son, Omar, with his

Tio, at final to tell you if we we're we're the etiquette of the

family and we go to the essence that transmite that is love or the love in multiple

forms. So, so much they're at the more for reflex, for, for,

sezgo to see a man, a man, a man, other probably, probably,

they're a family, et cetera. So, but at final of count, is love.

Amor manifestado in multiple forms. What does the Bible, God,

it's manifest in multiple forms. No uskeem that title or that etiquette

to a person so great to give a character that's a uncomasurable not we could you know

exactly so and then and then and then well the contraparte of the devil

if God is love is the absence of the reason so then there is

because this is profound or so is not it is not the text

literaries for So, that is, is to try to understand or get to

receive that discernment the same of one and other situation. Because at a

sometimes is the problem of the religions, and I want to do they're all literal and you

know, you know, you know, let me, let me, look, for suppose,

and here we're to a thing to control, of massas, manipulation, blah,

blah, and a lot, and a lot of things. But no there Despired.

It's all. All the days do you see. Exactly. But I think that's they're in mind of that.

Because at a few the days you're just desperating. Desperta. Be conscientious of your

conscience. It's a recordator Pacho. Despert all the days is a record. It's a

recordatory of that we're living. And, oh, and, oh, it will be a day. So,

think, well, it's important to think beautiful. It's important to think beautiful. It's important to think that you're creating your soul. You told about the book that's writing,

not of creating my cell. From, I was very fan of seeing people that were in their leech of death of death. And I said, where's they went? I was there, that teleta of the egg that's mark in the eyes. So, the extractor of the murder, when

you're, you know, they're and they're a different. The olores. I mean, it's a lot the attention, that, no? I saw in my abuel, that fellacy. It was in

other Tio, too, too that's also. And, and I'm to think to

try to try to to get to understand. But that's me, I go to understand

because I am here. Because I'm real. Oh, no, I'm going to

commit errors, but for those are the human, to commit to learn to learn to

learn to learn to know? It's to make decisions, Paco. Yeah.

I'm sure that there many people that going to comment what has passed,

that in some moment, oh, a me happened, there's something I would be

going to like to give a message for you, Paco, and is

for yeah, to want to want to ask a explanation and only

live it. Soloment it. All are special. You are special because

you're just I'm just not you're here to change the world,

you're here to change the Trio. And if you can't the two, you're going to change two

two or three frequencies that's around you. So, do you look that explanation.

If you do you you're going, and you do you're going, and you said the contrary,

never has never never has, never, no, the phenomenon paranormal,

nor the phenomenon of the existing, nor these worlds, no has been

someone that that has compromised. For that I said to the people, respecten the creencers

of the other. So, totally. Respecten how they never do you. Never. There's a

thing that us unes to us, no important your position economic, no important to your race,

no important to your religion. All of us we're going to get to that way. What form

to terminate this episode, brother? How do you do you know, is that? We'd probably durer hours,

practicing, of really, of sharing, discerned, because apart it's very interesting, to talk to

talk with Paco is a little because when we're when we're like to start to seebring a ball

and me makes make record things that I'm very block very block as, you know, so

so I'm, so I'm sure that you have done there's much we can't in this platform for

the normativeness because are very crudas. But there will be one there's a there in the web

that the good Felipe decided reserve because is it's a densa. So, if it's very strong if you'd

like to go to go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm very thank you. Thank you. For accepting the invitation.

Before, see us, for favor, let me know, to record, networks, projects. For sure.

You can find the channel of Octavio Isondo Invisible Invisible, invisible paranormal. That's more

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So, thanks, Paco, for this invitation. No, Herman, thank you. Much of your opportunity. Thanks to you.

Thanks to thank you. Thank you. Thank you all the final of every episode and you know that I'm

very good. Can you get to do you to get to this channel, activate a campanita also go to the radio

social of Felipe there in the channel that you have with invisible with the master Octavio

Elizondo. No, you can't play because some investigations that value that you see.

And then we'll see more later in other episode. My number is Pac-A

and we'll see to the next. Ciao. Because is this carlone if I'm gonna. Where is that, because you're not suffering?

Yeah, not you're suffering. Yeah, it's meted in other pinche world. She and

me says, that's the trick. No, they're they're to get to the mutt.

They're in the cuchin' and he cut it up and he had to eat and I, and the way, yeah, he's he's not, he was alive. No, he's not, he was alive. No, that's other thing. No, there's no, there's crucifix, rosario,

nothing, cabron, that he'll that he'll go to the rest of your life, until that you golly. If that's a man, way, to be halleer at the most profound, way. Because I don't even more, you're going to when you're going to

when you're going to you're going to you're going to because that's not the spirit of the child way, that's the

thing that's how you're going to this cabron? They're not ascenting to a morrillas or are they're mordered

his body, the brain, the back to the back, and at the person more, but super

herida, stillerer still still, I think so a lot, and it's like a in your

in your in his I'm...