EXTRA ANORMAL - El Lado Oculto de La Iglesia y El Vaticano | ICEBERG

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, nos sumergimos en los niveles más profundos del iceberg de secretos y misterios que rodean a la Iglesia y el Vaticano. Junto a Oscar Gherbert, exploramos historias ocultas, conspiraciones, exorcismos, casos de milagros cuestionables y los oscuros pasajes que la institución ha preferido mantener en las sombras. Desde relatos escalofriantes hasta teorías prohibidas, desenmascaramos los enigmas que conectan lo divino con lo siniestro. ¿Qué tanto de lo que sabemos es la verdad? Prepárate para abrir tu mente y descubrir lo que yace bajo la superficie. Extra Anormal Podcast. El Vaticano, Historias de Terror 2025, Iceberg del vaticano, Paranormal, Paco Arias El Lado Oculto de La Iglesia y El Vaticano | ICEBERG

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Yeah. What I'm going to be able to be a podcast extra an normal. My name is Pacoarias and I'm very happy to be here with you. this occasion, we're to talk a time

a very little a time that we have been we've talked earlier

and the theme as the the side the black or the

iceberg of the Vatican it's a part two

and I want to say something before to start for

that not there not is accepted. And I want to mention that we do do with the

fan to offend to offend to nobody, and not not to respect to any religion for nothing.

Of course we talk about two people that talk certain certain of those

that they have been the truth. We're no moment accept us the veracity

of the same in no moment we say that the things are

we're we're we're we only we're we're to talk

some internet, and those we're going to over the mess. You're are who

they're going to give, uh, well, that's a validness. There are some points

that are really. Obviously, like all Isber is it compone for some

some news or questions that are reales and falseas. So, yeah one once said

this, family, yeah, with this I hope that no so I'm to make to understand

something to be to be a person, I'm and that me will help much because it's a thing that

has a bit with religion. Oscar Gerber. How's your good? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

We're going to talk about this time about these things. As well, you know, it's a very,

incoomod, and as making a great emphasis. No is the reality absolute to what we're

to mention some some theories of conspiration even There are some data that is certainers, that are documented as,

and as I've mentioned, when you invite you to conversar with you, there are data that can corroborate, and at the final, the audience has the last the word, can't say this is correct, this is not correct, not credible, and at the final, it's about to entertain. Of that, of that's about,

and to share what we've talked about in a scene familiar, in a carnit-a-sada, because it's a thing that generates, or is curiosity, and we're to call it morbo. Because there are some questions in

quite a connocement that one's a question, because this institution has got so regard on certain archivos, over certain information

that we don't have the rest of and we're going to get disclosed this. And not only the resguard physical, this

I was in some moment, when we talked about the part one, grand people with abilities spiritual,

we're going to call it that can desoblars, that they've gone in this world astral, that have

intended to enter, assurant, oh, they're, they're there's, there's

a guardian also, the world, the which evita that the people can enter to

certain areas of the Vatican where only only a personal has access to

a great archives, a great books, grandest these this is an iceberg.

And as all we're going to start from from up to the more

oscuro. Before to start, I know so much people know you know, but your

other last I'm asked this and someone said that's not that's not credentiales but well

it's what we do we're doing that we're doing so I'm doing this with Daphne Silvan

and they're they're they're gonna find in the profile or in the page of YouTube and in

Instagram we we're like Oscar Hedbert and also TikTok that are the radio social where

I'm my to put us in contact. And not more to say, Extraormal, podcast arrobaimel.com for all the stories that they want to send and share us, for that we're going to the rest of the family. I'll say this, I said this. Yeah,

you know, I said, Hasil. About this theme, me put a bit nervous, because a past that I mentioned in a principle that this is for entertainer, and it's not is the real absolute, even as

there are people that are people who are people that probably not know if they have

problems in house or something, but they'll they'll forget what I'm and they're on the

so we're we're going to pass in this occasion but it's that the title of the

first point it's really and it and it and it's a little and I'm

because the first point of Lysber is Jesus is an alien we're going to

to explain this. Jesus is an alien or an extraterrestrial. Well, the dictionary us says that an extraterrestre is all that that is all right

of the earth. We're going to let us get us the image of a being of a of a gray eyes, no, eyes great.

Ohos grand. We're going to keep us that idea of the head. An alien really what is Well, is someone, an entity, a body, probably, or

something, but that abita above of the Earth. It can be in any... Teorically, if we're that we're going to be the third skyl, the third skyl, it would have to be reason, but

not we're going to matter in this theme. In this, in this point, the Britannic, Richard Lawrence, who is an expert in topicsophologics, mentioned to this point of that Jesus is an some type of

extraterrestrial or alien and that the same Bible it's confirmed in certain passages. About initially from the

nasimient of Jesus written, that's written in some passages of Evangelios Apocryphos. I remember

much the talk that I was with my friend Lourdes Gomez, that I'm a great abrass

a friend, thank for our giving us her she was and I

remember much of this of what she mentioned about about the nascented in the

books apocryphs. Libros Apocryph are books that not form part of the canon biblical.

In these scriptures, mention an something something because never us about a

nacient and this he said Lourdes Gomes, we're talking to materialization.

Realment never there never was a name this this actually,

well, we narrs something and a in the uphology, that is the time

is the time is the time is there the time is there the people get an inertes and there is

in this script we said that even a pastorcito he kept with the bar so he was so he

was doing an action and all so he got totally paus and it was when

when it was where he was where he's where he was there was Durow, no, a time Determinado,

after the time regress to the normality, but yeah was Jesus materialized. So, this point is complemented

with some some of the scriptures that are in the books Apocryphs, even in the same Bible.

There is a passage that I like to learn, and I bring for you that is Juan

823, where Jesus mentioned the part and they he said you're

you I'm of you're in this world I'm not I'm not I'm in this world

yeah all we know that's well that's a little back of I'm back I'm going to

the term extraterrestrester the term extraterrestrestersteris what there is what there so using these

arguments it could say or it could think theoretically and literally is

an extraterrestre, mention it as the significateau real, not with the image that we all of the alien, the cabeson, of this, and the other. I mean, it's occupant some of those

scriptures. And a part of here, these super abilities that had Jesus, how curate infermedities, revivir mortals, without mentioner,

not the telekinesis. The hydrochinesis, which is the ability to be able to to be able to manipulate the water. How we can't know,

Jesus converted one of those first miracles or the miracle that is the Bible, no men of the Gives Apocryphus is that

convient the water in vino, apart of the power of the power of manipulate not only certainly

the matter, also the matter, also the water. And another script that refuerza this theory is

that the same star that guide to these three reels magos, like, some

know, or three men sabious, is that no staria can have

movement. And if we're a meteorito, a meteorito, a meteorito, no could get this

a man, and if ever could be able to see, to the new when for

physical comes coming coming coming and this part

mention a Richard Lawrence, that more to be a a starrys that

the three Ries Magos to where is Jesus in his Pesebre us about that is a nave, a

type of an abe, an Omni, that's the manifest to them, we're going to the history

these men, that are the three Ries Magus, they were people people that were that were much

the stars, that stoodia in the sky, and they used this, that they were to be

going to they're like a signal of that something that was a world and they

decided And it was when they They were when they're to get where Jesus. So it's a time quite delicate,

bastante interesting because it's uner some some of the passages that are in the books apocryphs, in the

same Bible canonic, and that some people experts in the theme uphologic mention,

saying this part of that Jesus is extraterrestre. Or is some type of that came to be

to be to us us humans a form of madurar and to grow spiritually

and then a doctrine or doing a series of ensignances that us can help help to get to

the famous matrix, start of the system and be able to be a moment of a same level

spiritual. I know what you think you think you think you going to be doing and the time

I'm I'm a certain characters mentioned in the Bible and I repeat and I

do that enormous emphasis these are theories, theories that are very, very clear.

There are three characters, as much of Jesus that have an ascents practically to the sky.

Because we know, because we know that Jesus, when the crucifixion, resuscita, and then there's,

no? There are three characters that's very very in the Bible that

practically is, if you want to see, so, abducied, not? This is the

power. Abducied. Abducied, that's This, resulta the first is Enok.

Enok, Enok, the Bible mentions that he's coming and he doesn't happen and they're to go to

see, so many, we know, and we've mentioned about this mess. The second is a

person who mentioned in the chapter earlier where we were talking, Elias,

Elias was an prophet, that was the of the four hundred prophets

falseos, to him to him in the Bible that comes a caroage

man by some cabos and so he goes and they're so they're and in a

torbellino is mentioned that's he's he's he's no more it's

and he other person rather and I think he's a couple of times

it's he mentioned in the Antiv Testament when Abraham does this

that he does the 10% of what he's that he's ateris to

the he's in Hebros mentioned a Melchise a king Rey of Paz.

That is a synonym of Jesus Christ. Rey of Paz. And in the Bible mentions that Melchizedek was a man that no

had a ascendency, and decendency. And nobody more knew of him. It was a person who

was a person who came with Abraham, took a wine and disappeared. What you are you

are saying with the question of Jesus and the aliens, you keep thinking

in these Ceres, perhaps supremos. We know had a sabidurial impressionate,

all what he's written in his book, that not is can't be the same man. Elias

had an information, and he was that way that I was to talk about about you about it

invocting and it's practically fire of the other person. And the other you know,

when you put to analyze what's what's what's in the apocalypsees that came

in the sea, they're descending, that's that's mentioned the

angels, the archangels, are these are these that the human no have the human,

even the salood angelical is not the no temas. Imagine to be a person with

this being many, many heads, eyes, allas, allas, all is

a certain and aterisand this part the part that I think,

I have to be archives in the Vatican that are they're

regarding this information. If we in the passages Biblical

we can learn this Imagineate what can be able to becult in that grand bibliotheque that you mentioned

in a chapter with respect to this time. That is a point that I take a little more so that I've got

been notated of the archives of contactos that have had been not only only people

any in the world but specifically and making an emphasis in the papas

so that we're going to get a little more more too too is more too

you try it Fidate that some point. We're talking about about the Vatican. The Vatican

I like because when Google you do you know the information that is the country the country

the world. Yes. So, all the power that has of the most powerosos,

no? And me I'm going to investigate and obviously I'm to see

there the things that there there's about how it's what is the day of today

of today. And there a theory that I got to much that has to

to be with a civilization called the Etruscos. I don't if you have seen this. No.

Well, there's the one. The Truskos is a civilization that is pre-Romana. And practically the Romanos

absorbed some some of them of the population, system in quite a functionability, and adopt

certain certain doctrines, certain doctrines. What me impression of this is that they're that they're

that they're a dioza. The Dioza is Batic and it is correlated

with the name Vatican. But this Dioca was the Dioza was the

Dio's a new a new a necropolis and was all the rest of the rest of

human that are practically cemented and in this theory it's

mentioned that the Vatican was was that was

the next the then you know with the with the history

of Neron that had this Circo no, where comes

this phrase to give to the place to where the practically privating of the

life of the Christiansians is there where it's there's the capilla where there are these

are supposed are theories not I don't I'm saying that's a reality and

above it's about the Vatican there's this biblioteca there

certain and even the the people that's that's

kept there there that's there there And me really

the attention this correlation that they're doing with this dioza practically that's

that's there's the inframund for so say that you mentioned about a guardian

the guardian of the biblioteca this enormous how it is correlational the thing of a

person spiritual and when you know you're or you listen about

about the how is doing it has to be much with the

protection of a information that you can imagine that the guardian

spiritual, I mean, that's an idea a bit of a bit of but that's a guardian spiritual, that the

custodian the Vatican really be a Vatican, would be a whole the logic of the

world, son a burdo but they logic. Yes, no forget us

that in the Vatican there many figures that have to be with the

art, but also have to be much with mythology.

So, how figures no there there don't there

are there Serpientes, and all this has a significate. Now, the fact that a woman, because it's supposed to it's a woman, this to me call the attention, because we know that the system

religious, which we're always accustomed to hear, the women, not have voice, nor vote, practically. So, all those leaders, or majorly, are men, are men, and what I interest is that is a god who is a guy who is doing this. Imagineate,

how strong, and the name, so number is another level. Batica. Batica. I never had heard of today, I've been to

investigate a a little because I, see, I'm, me, me, it's a

very idea. It's the very, I'm a reaffirmed. But is the first point, I think

is important there, resaltar, especially for the theme of the art. There's much money,

there's much history in the Vatican guardada, and over all the later, also, and more

a lot of the part of how was consolidating a the Vatican talking in things

monetaries because it's a good have been and it is a bad abid. This is

a reality. We're going to talk to that point in a moment. I'll bring a point that

has to the hand with the first point that I did and we're going on the

iceberg is that the natural of the demonies is that they're really

actually extraterrestes also I think if we're we're the term

that comes in the grand dictionary of extraterrestres, that is, above of the earth,

if they are, I mean, literally, so, literally, it's not, it's a lot of, the doctor, Armando Aldousin,

that he's a manned a salute, and I'll in some moment I could have to have here to Armando

Aldusin of an of his conferences, that these naves that we've that are in

the skyos, really are demons he mentions that this is the form in how the demonies materializing

the energy demoniac or the energy oscura a time of these is the form in

how they can materialize and make that the humanity can't in a type of

menira recording some those passages biblical that satanas

is the father of the this doctor assuer a

something You mentioned the word abducid in some moment of the history

in the Bible and of some evangelios and some passages it's about a fact

apocalyptic that will be going to there, no there, no there, but that is going to

say that's so detailably making emphasis in the arrebatamient us.

We're there are two women in the Rio and one of well, at those firsts,

will disappear, the other will start doing something in the metate and will disappear, and it's going to make one.

So, mention much the part of the part of, that's going to disappear, grand part of the,

of the humanity, or those that's going to the Bible. This doctor, Armando Aldusin,

assure a something that is very interesting, and this only I'm to paraphraseer and it

is a very absolute, but he mentioned that, the demon or satanaz is that preparing to the world

for that the arrebatamient and after of that the fact the world think that

that's not that was a rebuttement it was an abduction for part of the of seres

alienigenas and after that after that the people disappear and if kept in

those people will be going to end the day so expected for many

people of the famous contact official. Because there are many people who

people that are with Omnis or that someone and they see Omnis and they

invoking and so but no there a contact official that get in

a day desiendan and presenten they can talk in a microphone

or can communicate so still still we don't we

don't we this doctor assur that one that when a rebatamint, that

the people of God not stay, they're going to manifester, they're to get to humanity, making them to think that they

went, because they're going to gollar probably another planet, and he came this famous contact. In this

moment, when this is when it's when going to be that the person that will get to give to

pass, that he's called the Antichristo. He mentioned something something that he This iser,

to be the same and I do I'm the equal to Jesus also will

have to have done a modification genetic that he going to remember that the

component of Jesus is celestial and is human see? So, are in

those parts that's that's that's going to happen to do this

I'll repeat said by the doctor Armando Lusin he mentioned

that in the moment that the people of God and it's a

cause and come to the famous contact and get this leader to bring to pass,

this is the same that's his composition genetic in the

way will be the semilla human and the semilla infernal

that in this case would be of satanas so so it

is very interesting because we know that a part of

the certain moment the leader that can control the world,

also will have a composition different in his, in his body. Now,

what things us make the point principal of that the extraterreces are demonious.

I've also with Jojanan Diaz, who I send a manned a manned

a man, Johnan Diaz, that there certain things that the alieninigens or

extraterrestres can provoke in the human. One of them is the possession.

We mentioned, in Saragrant Sustos, a case, when we're talking, of the case of the pilot Mexican, Rafael Pacheco-Perex. Mentioning about this pilot, that is pilot Mexican, Rafael Pacheco Perel, that in some point

is out of Mexico and appears in Acapulco. The interesting is what is what is in this trajectory, yeah that in a point, he'll he's a

communicars to some a little a base but he's

about things really absurd and mentioning that the

he's a person and he's a Raphael Pacheco

as a media to talk and we're talking

and we're really a possession. And many sometimes when he's a person and this person

and that person is interesting. How this can also communicate telepathically, to be able to your mind

that are the people that are posseidas before to commit a crime. What is what they said, they're going to

listen, words in their words in your words that came here, do this, does this, does the other,

it, with your woman, with your, with your children. So, there are

certain abilities that can parten the extraterrestres, the aliens with the demons,

in this type of abilities that I mentioned, the possession, the ablarsion, the apathetically, how they manifest, and they're in many

things that us are you think that probably, probably, they're probably, they're not a theory.

Much of the interesting, many people, many people, they're sure, that's they're not, they're not

they're doing but they're so, they're so, the aliens or the extraterrestres, the omnis that we've we're not,

if they're demons and are they're doing to the humanity for the encounter for the famous contact

official but it there's over the mesa and everyone will be to think what he

muste whenever we talk this time saco aflote the movie

the fourth contact that initial with a thing of aliens or of

the theme extraterrestre and they're they're they're they're

aterisando it's almost a spoiler those who don't have

been to be it's a great movie. Because it's based on the actual

there's there's there's there's there's there that's that they're

that's posseid and then they're going to see that this movie and just

right that's talking about this is it's relationa with

with the reptilianos and the thing of the people much people

let's also with the thing biblical no so

that the serpent that about, with Adan, well, with Eva in this

case, first, and he has peccar, it has desobedece to God. The Bible

always mark a dragon and the serpent like a thing more. They're animals.

Even in a psalmo says the word Oyaaraz to the catchor of the

dragon, that is pizar. And me a next time. There is a

cell in the Vatican the table Pablo Sexto. And this Salah has a form very particular because in the part of the above,

when you see it's for Google, or even a drone for there, asemeyha to the head of a serpent. And it's more interesting when you see the photos of the part of the endro. That's the bankas, there's the passillo principal,

and there's a... I'm going to call it Pulpito, which is where the person to give his, well, your conference, no, his reunion. It's a very strange the form because

from the part of the photographia, there's two ventanals ovalas. That when you see the

photo, it's like some the photo, and conform it's going to the time,

there are two columns that are some those colmillos. And in the part of the center

where comes this place, where position those papels or where you're talking

the person, doing the penance, the passio a seem to a language. And detrace of the person

that's talking, that in this case, if I do my information, regularly is the

Papa. There's a work that is the resurrection that that'semey to Jesus that's

coming from the inframund practically when it resuscita and so all these beings that are trying

to have done to have It's a-terrador to this scene where is this body of a man out of all these demons are trying to hauler. And then this to take,

to the part of the back, you see a a serpent emulada in that salon in the Vatican. A la beast, because there's the serpent there, no, they're much imagination. No, no is imagination, no symbolism

in the Vatican. It's casuality. No, no is innocent, no is casuality. It's what you're saying. I'm going to say. I'm going to send it. the photo to

the producer for to put it and at final the audience will say yes or

if it's interesting mention because one of the characteristics that they make

very mysterious the same Vatican is the grand quantity of symbology that

in the doors in pillars in paredes in this composition because

much just what you you say is casualid is that at finalized

all these great architects they said, oh, well, look, look, well,

I mean, there's a really, there's a thing, yeah, it's all what he

plasm Miguel, all has a reason to be, they're there,

they're in the time of it's there, but why it's there? Sure. Because

there's a transfondo of this. What? It's really, yeah, which is the

serpent in the Bible is used like a animal is practically very intelligent and

mentiroso. Yes. Maldito. You can you know. Because at final when he says to

Eva, come of this fruit prohibited, no he says a minute, he says

that will be a un-tapada practically his vis- and get to know- and that

happened. And that was really, and that really, and so, so, so.

So, so, so, we talked about before At the final, the part, not I'm saying that I'm the other

band, and nothing of this like this, of this is a pretty much, I don't know how I'm going to rest in the audience

at the rata. Pacaria's have seen a adorator of satanaz in the studio. But the part when you

listen the stories contadas by the good, obviously, it's always going to be the malo

Satanas, Lucifer. But at final, what he did, he didosos to be decode to the mandate

of God, but he obtu of what was what was good and what was bad. It's

man, carlone. Fiatte what we're we're going to complementar a little what you mentioned earlierly is

this point is the point that's a great part of archives of persons that were contacted.

This is this, I'm going to talk a little, me going to go to a little.

We're going to be this grand biblioteca. This grand biblioteca that I want to

to make emphasis in what is in meditions lineals, because it's about that are more of 80

kilometers, some are going to be 84, some people are 85, kilometers of the

stateria where we going to find many many because really really is more

great than the same city of the Vatican but here we're we're we're

this is this is to mending it's talking it's we're about that all is in a cumul

and there we're going to find passages and more passillos with more estantaria so it is a lot of

80 kilometers. Now, much people have said what there in this little part of the

world. If really to get to the know of the knowciment that's here,

you think Oscar that would change the rumbo of the world? If really

are these archives that they're in there? If there if existier

that information, definitive if it's there's another functionality within

the planet but also if you're to think in the groups radicales

that they don't think two times, we've passed many

many times a long of the history and you're in

accord or in accord if you're in the first probably probably

would there much there's much is dangerous the fact of

to have information, is that is a debate very great. The information

to the access or not, because not they're not all they're in the

same manner. And there is where can generate a cause. I think

I'm this. We'll to the same. We'll make much in these

zones prohibits for a person normal that have these accessos

for this type of information. So, so it's that in one part of this biblioteca is the section

Prohibited is they want where there are various written, hechos that marked the history

of a form but that the same the same that has tergiversed all the information

to give the room. And here I remember much what I mentioned

Lourdes Gomes. Because supposedly in this section Prohibita are

the relattos, the evangelists, that mention how it's really the

history and how there were great masters and people and people important of that

that's how was your contact not with humans, with the other world,

with extraterrestres even even mentioning many part of the

apparitions of angels that are really extraterrestrestres or the same apparitions

marianas. How in this point is encountered the actuales and crudous and how the iglesia, oh, I'll repeat, this is a theory, and how the church changed all for that mentioner that the

beings that were not a certain of this, but it was an angel. And here mention it much what Lourdes us shared with an apparition Marianna, where the church changed completely all, mentioning that

was a virgin, but the actions real to those that she had had access and information us were about that, for example, the woman that was a woman that was a calva,

had a vestibur metalica. Nothing to be as we know we or we idealize to a virgin. It's totally different, the

appearance. So, in this point, we mentioned that in this section, are the contactos that have done great people who

were important in the history that marked the history even the contacts that have had taken some of the

papas. There, there's also another theory that is about the Papa Juan 23,

that all you can go to go to and that he said, that this papa

was a papa, he took a time a talk of approximately 20

minutes with a certain of another dimension that came from the

the world and he mention after having this practice with him

by saying no there's no cab of good that the children in all parts

so then after this after this I found with a theory a real

a supposedly this theory we mention that there is that there

is a very old called Libre Pontificalis is a text that in

his content we can we can specifically specifically with a fecha, with di-exacto,

and how occurred the contact with the papas that more changes or more hechos or more hechos

that were the history was like the, the acercement with these these those

were like these like they received messages for them to be managing the power

that these people they were so it's interesting interesting, it's a theory. There I'll do it for that someone that wants to investigate

and know if it's real or is fake, there's them I'm over the mess. I just I'm going to go. So, it's to talk with many pincitas the theme. Demasio, so, no, no, I don't

want to be, comments, out of context. No, I, so. Fikate that you're talking about about this information, there's a lot, here I'm going to

give an information real, and I'm going to continue and I do it. Resulta that's

filtered that the documentation of the jury of Galileo Galilei this is very important for me

and for maybe the history. It's supposed that Galileo Galileo Galilee

affirma the contrary to what he was saying the church okay

Galileo Galileo Galile is his investigation has his thesis his

tithes and his You know, you know, the earth not is the center

of the universe. Resulta that the sun not the world and this

was a eriegian. And in that moment the word of was in questionable.

Yeah, not like orita. So, then they enjuician, obviously they're

they've been for such arguments, and you keep thinking there are many verses in

the Bible that make mention, and we're talking about at the initial of this capitual.

There's many people that observed the astros. And me record a story that we're talking

in the talk about in a thing of things, a little different to what we

are we're accustomed or with contexts, even even to take to the

context. And a part of now I going to talk about a verse

that makes refuerso to what What's what's going to Galileo, Galilei. This is, it's supposed that is the book that's a document that's

protected. You know, is that in this is a regalance, where we're talking about the history, when the people of Israel, of Egypt. The Exodus, that is leadered by Moises, and Jeobales, says that's the Earth Prometida, that is the land and milk.

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people to observe this Tierra Prometida in this group of 12 persons go to Josue Caleb and the other

and the other don't know result that they're in this place and effectively if it's the place

it's the even they've even they're enormous and they're with Moises and they're but

small or very gigantes result that there was there was a little detail, there were

people or people or Ceres very strange. So, that one of them

of them and says that the two spies were asemey to the

longostas to the feet of they're people great and gigantes mention the

Bible literally result that these temerosos that say no

I know I think like we Mostitubean, Jeobaz enoja and those lacera. Yes. And, for other part, Acalibia, Josue,

for having he creed, and they say, we're able, valiant always, and you know that Joseph was a great strategist. They're going to this place,

but imagineate, they're, they're, they're from the lineage of the son of Noe, of Cam,

the who maldico, that's supposed that is the cient of the serpent, what we mentioned about. These beings,

that are there are very distinct to the people of Israel. Of each, it's mentioned that are that are to paraphraseer

and here, a part of here in the this is interpretation property, is something we have talked,

because you are giving certain the Bible in that history, a little strange,

very ambiguous. Resulta they get and says the Bible that was a place where the

land was a same and here is where we're We started to interpretar, what is that? What is it? What does it?

And so, we're going to say, sometimes it's people that's come between them. Canibalism, no? No, no, I want to say to not to give him to the producer. And resulta that in that story, well, evidently there's an entry that I'm going to, and I'm going to start, and I

start to give a world, because, well, are in Ceres very strange. There's a moment where Josue, is to go to a mountain, separe in that mountain, he says to the sun, sol detente. And in that moment,

according the Bible, the sun is detain, and these seres are debilitan. And it's when the people of Israel begins to win the battle

at the grader that they're going to unikiland. Now, what type of things were in that's what we were in serral

in the sustos. Ceres Nocturns, serres that were in the cwebs, because the soul was affected.

Exactly. And this is something that comes and I've read in some comments, this is a theory. Acaste

were vampires, acos, are they're of other world, with who were people who were those are

those are I'm saying and all of this narrative you mention that that you know, that means, when the

sun when the sun not can't get to when the sun, the earth the earth,

the time, the earth, the so, Christian for them are an heregia that Galileo

Galilei said that the earth not the center of the universe that was the world of the

center of the world so he's the world is the sun is the sun is and what

they did and what they're they're they're so so if they're

very extremists or is or not is and if it is you know

you know you you're you you're what is what is one of

the archiv interesting that are in this Biblioteca. See that when

I remember much of that the chapter of the other studio when when we we're going to we're going to

the type of being the description is that there was that there was that you're going to three meters

two meters two meters and a graded that they're like they're like they're literally

they're we're we're we're like langostas to his feet imagineate a people

of Israel so if they were they're they're how many they'd talk about

and it's to be able derubes or not see what type of arms record we're

that in this then I'm mentioned a much the thing of the power no

so it's that's in the in jues they can see and it's Jesus

I was saying that Jeobah he's he says that he says that decendent

pietras of the sky to termin to bring to bring to imagine

of this this war, well, spiritual or what type of arms they were in

that moment? Imagine that were some those advanced and were advanced technologically, which is what that's

also that the Vatican doesn't much technology and what technology is that's not.

No, it's the only that's more doubt because I remember that passage and the interesting

is the debilidad that they were in these. They're they're they're

of darkness, the nibbles, of penumbre and the fact of parer,

between commas, the sun to debilitar those, it's need to be to talk,

or that we know, we're not, we're not we're not experts, this is what we

know, we can't we can discerned, but that is really, I think for, I think

for any person that's, this passage, if you will generate much, confusion,

because you know you know that's about. Yeah, Now, I'll repeat again, it's an interpretation

my, is an interpretation also of the group. I'm going to all of those those that's regal in sust that we're talking,

what is what that's what happened in this moment. But, but there's, it's been in three, I don't mal

recall, or if no, Googleen in Queses, the history of Jose, when detain the sun,

no, me that's there. There's, there, because yeah, we've put him in this Aisdard,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're too too, we're too, well. Fiatty

that there's a point important that we don't talk about in the part one of the iceberg of the Vatican that is the resguard of the head of Maria Rosenthal. It's a very

dense. It's interesting. Let's go to tell a little the history. This occurred in the year 1742.

When you do you know then then they were in then they're in a little of the age media.

This occurred practically in a monastery of alemany where a monja Josephine Rosenthal,

he was embarrassed and this woman, what said, is that never had never had been relations

sexual. This generated much conflict in this monastery. The Council of Benedict 14

in the Vatican took to have to do a series of this woman and

he's determined that effectively this monja was virgin. I mean, I generate much

a doubt of what type of proof he made in those years 1,700 to determine that's there

I think I'm, I'm like I'm doing this montour. That's, that's yeah,

I'm imagineate how they're still they're in their age media, how,

how was that process, boy? No, no, I, so I'm some of

many things many things locus, that I can't mention but that that's

that's that way that's that's a bit of a bit of a bit of but

well, in that then that's that's that's that's that's

that is that actually had been a miracle there there

was much controversy in the Vatican in the monastery etc because

many much they they're one like a miracle

like as something immaculated, how passed with Maria, and other people don't know. On the other, they're going to be a more demoniaco

because supposedly, supposedly, mention about that this monja was posseid. Well, what what occurred

after is that this monja moire at moment of being to be doing a light to his child.

In that moment, discover is hermaphrodite. So, it's alimented more the theory of

that she is a product demoniac and that was a moment of that they're in this

condition. And it's something for the little, because a part of that moment

they're to start her very bad even even standing in this monastery in the

Vatican because they were to maltratar, they the other monjas. So it was very judged,

very criticated, I don't see if me atreveria or like they were, they were to be used

to get to a book that she was a little a type of where she was writing all what

was writing. The turbio of this is that in some moment determine that they're that effectively

she is like a type of a maldition and the form of about, they're emular

practically what what's going to Jesus, yeah that for her at the

age of the 33 years, they thought they're and it's when it and says,

no, well, if what's what I want to do you what I'm what you

expect practically for that for that, I prefer to go to this world and

is when she says when she says it's auto-desvive. And actually

I don't see if this is a theory, Oskarre? Yes, it's a theory. It's a theory, practically.

Actuality it's a about that conservant the head embalamada of Maria Rosenthal

with a rosario, and for there I think is like a bottle of no see if it's

part of the same, no, I don't remember but they're in some

aspects of it. So, so it's very torbio that's very torbio. No me

sound so decabellated there There's a Sala for there is the

area where they're in exorcism that there symbols

and I'm to make the attention in quite to a ensnances

I've said I'm I'm admirer of the processes of the

church of the things that are reales or not are their process

of preparation for the people that is leader or he a

place they have a pretty very strict and and

me what I'm to cause certain conflict are that the ensignances that one

are taking different to the Catholicism you say for example the let's

in the name of Jesus, but they're they're these symbols that they

are very powerful and we have mentioned in the mess and they have

some a rechazz of the people that is posed when be a

cross when they see this type of symbols and what is what

has given the power to these, I'm, to call the

things, what is what does the power, who is the who has been, where they're

doing, why those they're in, how is that this part? It's a little

contradictory to the other the other ensues, where Jesus he says to the people, but

the apostles, no, they were not of this. No. Just just what they,

it's strange, and it doesn't mean, it's be that way is, it's,

it's bad or is good simply it's really and it and it's to say with what I'm

about the case of this chick that's there's there's there's like that's

something like this. It's too. Yeah, it's a word, and what I say to continue is a

little more too still, because this is a theory, it's a very,

I'm a question of what you know, a bit of aftor with the theme of the Vatican.

The connection between the legionaries of Christ, the Vatican and Juan Pablo 2. You know

that Juan Pablo 2nd was very friend of Marcial Massiel, and that for today

you can find out of internet. Lamentable and I say, Lamentable Marsial

Macyle Nacian Mexico, he started to make this congregation, this group

of persons that I have a a very very with the Vatican because it's

a group of people that manage a lot of money this is for a

reality and there a finales of the 90s a group of

people make a particular specifically to Juan Pablo

2 mentioned of the atrocities realized by Marcial

Massiel and his people result that Marcial Massiel

has in his case more of 60 cases of abuse to men's and this

and this and this he's not percived in the Vatican to the degree of

the thing was protection and he has mentioned the history and the

history of a man a peedado alarkon that his testimony is

impressive and it's an great no I don't if still

still Yeah, he was a great, I hope, and still stay with us but he mentioned that

he, in his youth, including with his friends, were victims of this group. Oh, man. And,

and he never so he did this Rufian, and he mentions, a person to have suffered

these abus of him, my faith still intact in God. This was what I

me, me, me impression Wow. Suppo separate one one of one.

How people not suffer in this. It's going this thing. As a few years

back, and it's going to recordar the audience, there's this revelation of documents

of the Pandora Papers, where they got trapitos to all all, and when

I go all, the Vatican also, the Vatican, also, in that that documentation

that's that's that went to flot, it would have been and that was practically an

auditory of part the society and here is where it's where it's where this is

a theory some of some of the reality when you put to see in where

has the Vatican has the money you know the the skinnita

and to revient the and even even even even even you knowhas

result that there three inversions very very we're going to

see what is the mass atroose. Inversion in a factory of arms

pharmaceutical talking about about the thing anti-conceptive and the last and no less important

and less atroce is in the content for adults what? What? Created with

children. No. And they have an investment in these three industries.

And there is where you say, it's that this is for the society,

it's a It's a institution Sagrada, pardon. Pacific. That's, that should

to protect to the people, to the people, how is, that exists this. I know that

was a too, that's going to generate incommodity, but is what is there. So,

can, so can go to investigate the case of Boston also, how were the parents

that were abusing to the children, the only that did the Vatican was,

we're, we're to change those, we're in the States United those

other other place more because we have to pardon them. And I mentioned in the episode

past, the one that's a condemnate to repeat. And this part where people,

that's that's supposed that do you do you commit crimes, and is

protected and that's a percivita not is new. No, man. Yeah, it's so

it's too. Demaci too. Of course I, I remember that when we're

that part one of the there's the Vatican, cerr with this type of things, generated

a lot of problem, genera, raspon muebles, rasppom muebles, and it

did it very, very, very, difficult, because there are people that,

that my, my rostro was still circulating in, in various groups of WhatsApp and telegram

to attack me because no they liked this thing that I spoke. Well,

in this moment, I put I put you the pecho to the ballonazas. No,

but I'm sure of something that the community we're going to be to do you know, that

we're going to do you. Because we're only we're and we're information that there out of this.

So, all what we're talking, O'K and you is something that you're going to discover your

own own reality. Let's remember that everybody is a mind is a world, the Oscar,

and of all. I'm about how information to Flore that's if you If you're going to enojure, no's enoges with me. If they're going to enoges with the

people that are committing these deletions. Yeah. Because, of sometimes, there's much cruelty, and much people prefer to not see that that's a matter. There's a, no, it's going to not. There's a case of a a woman, it's a grand sustos, and it's very cruel, and, really, if I'm a much courage,

not with the church, not with the people. Because, who are you corrompene a religion, or who's corrupting, a movement, a society, are the people. So, the faith in God, no no, no, so

move, but if it's a much courage, like you says, discover certain things that no should be able to. There's a woman that's made very viral in TikTok, it's so viral, because

she's put in his case. Today is a woman major, I don't know if even or now but she what in her

story is that she grew with her and her and her mother was to the church

she had around between 10 and 12 years and he started to his

and sheurita and unfortunately a pasto of a mother an

an but with vestigures of a sacerdote abusa of her. And not does one

once, it's many times. And she call to this that's living and there's a

point where it's a value and he says to your abuelita what is what

is your abuela when he's is to give some boffet to her

and to say to of the saint father no you're

talking that's that's that's that's of the Paul and the Christians

not you're saying yeah it's a thing a feo to say cacky of the

saint father not you don't and get to the church and

he has to have to go to the church and again I'm

he's waiting this person to to make to do

his mald with her know of what I'm about.

And it's very very very really because it's a reality that's

a reality, this is this is this yeah not is a theory. Oh,

and no, I want to say that's I know a sacerdotes that I

know I've had been talk with them and they're people

and they're very spiritual that really that really can the knowledge

they're people who are people who I've talked with great

men of faith and with this I don't want to talk about to the church,

or not to talk that's all right. I mean, it's not, no, no, no,

I'm not, I'm saying, you know, no, I'm talking to the person that is

that's a crime, that's a crime. And not it's exclusive of the institution

Catholic also that are in other institutions that are that are to support

that evangelics, Christian and all these ramifications. not is a

time in contra of the church a Catholic we've talked about

about this and it's respect the creencers the creencers and respect the creencers

but when comes out a flot a time where there a crime of the obviously

you know you and what most you get a or you will be

a car is when the institution protect to the criminales there is the part

where one is the part of one says no can't be

that an institution tan santa, tan sacra, tan prura, that's supposed that what it's about

the love, the love of God, the God God, God, so-Potoros, is

protecting to these people. Making emphasis this, not it's a time not more

of the Catholics. Also, it's not in other institutions. Yes, many more,

but so we've to come to terminate this episode that's very. No,

and they there still there, but there is that I'm mention the symbol.

The symbol. Oh, okay. That's the, yeah. I go, I mean, that's the ceresita the pastel. Well,

I'm going to mention the intro of what you going to say. No, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

So, so, it's the cumul of people, is that I'm need to mean the

language because I've said to say something, Oscar, he just to get a title in the podcast

like the demonetisator. God, of my life. Yes, thanks, Eric. There's a incompetency with the...

No, Eric. That's a good. He was a rival. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, it was past with the episode of sectas. Vali-cac-a-couate.

Techos, it's tiniere that that less vistas has tinned. Wee, it's that's a interesting. The episode, it's a lot of

and it's, and it's like, the infraction, way, and passed this. Dejoe-ho-de-recommendal YouTube. But, well,

no. To take those those things. That's what when you talk in those things and we we're

we're doing this we're going to let this we're going to let this we're going to we're going to let's

the same but why I'm doing this oh yeah so for that's I'm trying to I'm trying to

make much in the language no we can talk the things so that so

that's so don't know how you know how they're explicit but

so it's that in the cumul of people that are that they feel attraction

for people more people more people more people so we're going to

manage certain symbolisms between them for example an osito

of peluche symbolizes something something in this cumul of people and there

certain symbols that are repitient between them that

make allusion to this type of people something something

like the masonas more or less or actually it's that we

mentioned in the iceberg of Disney that We did Inceraghan's

that's that you have to go to go to see if you're to go to

see the things turbous Disney occupa this symbol

in well in it's distinctive in almost all

those films I don't it's they're so they're

right in front obviously obviously appear in certain scenes

in certain fragments where so they look to so

how good to put this symbol in in the symbol in this symbol in front of

spiral. Ah, a triangle that's a way in a form of spiral. And that

we've been repeated in many many people of the children and that's an illusion.

But my doubt is that's that symbol in one of the one of the one of the

one of the this is this is a thing. This is a theory this is a theory.

This is a theory. This is a theory. We're saying that Francisco the Papa

has these tendencies. There's a photo for there circulating that there's notably not there's

here in the episode for the time of the moneyization and that they're going to take

the video but this symbol is in the indumentaria of people that's the people that

they're in a reunion that's that's more too it's a it's a photo that

is a photo that's we don't know we're we're intelligence artificial. No,

because it's a photo yeah a little, even the quality was so good. I'll say

something. When it's a time to you know, you know, even even with the yeah,

more than has problems in generate dintes and deados. And that no, no is

to yeah. Look, that image I'm that I found it because me appeared

when you on Google images, you appear And the founted was YouTube. And mavented to a video. This image is the capture of

a picture of a video where is this people reunita and they're saluding. So when they're doing the movement, it's clearly in the part of the,

of the, of the back of the back of the front of spiral, that starts from a triangle. And not just

he's a person nearer to the camera. It's the second and to the next and the next the next.

of there is a and there is the approach to the Papa Francisco

that's doing a reunion but they're in a question because that symbol because that

symbol is used for things that is used to the people the people that's

it's that's there's there's there always there have been controversies with the

symbolology that a image that's we can't pass because it's a

thing more subtle of the gigante of Atacama in Chile how appears this image and from the skyless, from a

view as a lot of, it's quite great and it's so notorious that we talk to a phenomenon very rare, uphological, obviously,

but what does the gigante of Atacama in the vestigures of a papa? What symbolizes for them?

Because the same theme that we mentioned before. Nothing of what

is casuality not is that the person or the designer or the person or who has

said, oh, that I'm going to put to do you. No. So,

all, all has a reason. This is very certain. And, and nothing

is casuality. Yeah we've seen that there have this symbology that we talk about

and the other is the giant at Takama. Why he's what he represents

for it? that, or, I mean, there's a lot for them

or an fact that to give value to try to tryer in your vestidura this symbology?

It's that. That's, that the audience. That's, there. There's

many, there. Yeah, so, so, retumand the first,

the majority of the things that said in this episode are theories about the

Vatican, salvo the penultimate point that I did, that is a reality,

in about the thing with the thing also the also the thing. It's a

idea or at least in Pandora Papers, there's the information. But all, all,

all, all, all, all, that's a thing is a theory,

speculation. No, we have the truth. We don't, we're to have

the ultimate of this. You're saying the ultimate part, and I did in

a principle and I said in a question, this capitolo me put

very nervous. I've got to try some apuntes. I did puttons because I need

to change certain words for others. We don't we're going to what has been so it's

a thing very delicate to me. It's it was good, it's too really good.

I think so it's that's chit we've we've done for theories that are in internet,

that's in TikTok and we we're going and we're going, and we're going to, and we're going to, and we're going to, let's at the origin, no? Something, yeah, bien, bien, being brutal. Family, if this episode you guys liked, for favor, let us know, because probably we'll

make one part three, of the Iceberg, of the Vatican, or Part of Three. There, there's a material, Oskar? Sure, no, it's a lot. Faulted a lot. We'll talk about the lineage that he left Jesus Christ, for example. There's a lot of tense, because a lot of people. I like this. I like

much the time of the years of Jesus. I mean. Because the Bible you quit

great part of your life. We're going to have two years and reappearce after those

30-tant years? 30 years more or then? So, what is he did in that

time? About the God? To who? With who? With who? With who? With who?

With who what that's got to do? So, of this we can let us

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