EXTRA ANORMAL - El Peregrino FANTASMA que visitaba a la VIRGEN de Guadalupe | Relatos

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, nos adentramos en los relatos más impactantes y sobrenaturales vividos por peregrinos: milagros que dejan marcas, castigos divinos, encuentros con entidades… y caminos donde la fe se mezcla con el terror.Historias que revelan que no todos los que caminan hacia lo sagrado regresan igual.👣 Un peregrino llamado Martín pide un milagro en una capilla… y su cuerpo comienza a marcarse con las mismas heridas que llevaba Jesús.🕯️ Un joven en duelo visita la basílica, pero la estatua de la Virgen lo castiga frente a sus ojos, obligándolo a dejar un vicio que lo estaba destruyendo.😈 Un hombre que blasfema contra la Virgen se convierte en el canal de algo oscuro, una fuerza que muchos aseguran era demoníaca.💀 Un padre no creyente ruega por la vida de su hija… pero quien responde no es la Virgen, sino la Santa Muerte.🌙 En el camino a Chalma, unas brujas se llevan al hijo de una peregrina mientras todos dormían en el campamento.🧿 Una mujer protege a un bebé sin bautizar de una bruja que intentaba llevárselo desde hacía tiempo.🚗 Un conductor levanta a unos peregrinos en la carretera, solo para descubrir después que no pertenecían al mundo de los vivos.Milagros, advertencias y presencias que se manifiestan cuando la fe es puesta a prueba.Historias reales que estremecen y nos recuerdan que en cada peregrinación se abre una puerta… pero no siempre sabemos quién la cruza.¿Has vivido algo inexplicable en un camino de fe?Cuéntalo en los comentarios 👇

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Territories that day are full of rest, and promises, but that, the night, they're in territory of sombras, of bruchas that see in the rastro of the cansados and of presences that not want to get you to Your destiny.

Today, you're going to hear to have seen what nobody want to be when the body is agotado and the spirit vulnerable.

Figures that call for his name from the mountain, risas, that were from the encounters that

not were to hear this night, also, can be the form in that you can't come from

Jesus. What. Family, be welcome to a a chapter more of podcast

Extraanormal. My name is Paco Arias and I'm happy to be in a

chapter for all you guys. Family, today, we're a thing very interesting,

relato of peregrinus, people that recorren the people, getting this fe

unkebrantable, but that in this lapse, in these camions, they were put on

something that never can't be able to To talk of these stories, me accompany one of the people

that all of you know and that we do much that night, our dear Mr. Hervr, how is very well. Very well, to be here,

after your vacations, my friend. Ah, thank you. Well, it's a very, very content and was a very chido the program, the stories.

So, are features very important. Yeah. A part of, practically, yeah, the maratone, the famous

Marathon, Guadalupe Reyes. And I want to to say to all the audience, that enjoy and that they're doing. Because there people,

expecting those in house, a lot of the rest and all the other, the passion. Yeah, it's like, trankis, trankis,

for that all all are all all over and contentos in Navid. For supposed. Fichterate

that I, I, I, I, I record, with much carino every 12 of December,

because maybe many many do it or not they're in this tradition

not they're in Mexico but I have a tradition very very beautiful every

every and is that I was that my abelite and we put us and we

we're there in the banqueta in the sara in front of our house

and it was it was all the people of my city of my

city of my town so it so it was a whole the streets, like, yellowed

of vellas. And, well, I was a little because it was in, I was talking much with my abelita,

and I had me told many stories. It was the person principal that was the person that

was the way, we're going to pass our mother, the Virgin of Guadalupe today.

And mariachis for there, marichis for a car, you know, many things bonitas, tamales,

piatas, and it was also of the posals and all this. And I recall, of form very nostalgic, these feces, I'm going

on the streets in my city, and now see as when I was when I was a new, but, anteriorly, was there were all these

all these camions of belles. Today, for today, are little the cases that they're doing

but every that I remember, me, me re-mured, a little, the records, the pensions, the heart,

and, things, and traditions, that I remember, of form chida. It's that

December, generate this impact, not? Much people have, like, you, these records, very good, nostalgicos, and for

others, and for others, a brazo, of a time, these can be a little duras, no?

There have been peridid, even, has been made, miracles, that not have yet, and

it's strange and fascinating at the way, how the degree of some people for others

can be a lot of much melancholia, nostalgia, but no It doesn't It's a time

important. I know I've mentioned and a sometimes, as we know how we know how

it's but the reality is that it's also very interesting to see maintaining

the practices these parts when we commemorate to comemort to come to come much,

it's a very much, it's very beautiful that the culture still and see how the story with your

abuela, no, that you put as well as well as well. I mean, I've been there for, this, I mean, my two abelita, my two abelas are Guadalupan's.

And to have this memory where they'd put in your altar, that's the flowers, that's, that so, I'm even, I'm a

fan of the program. He's a father of the pastors, and he's, and he liked a much justly a capilla that

was there and said that then he took a photos there for the Instagram, uh, and that the

people of their church because he said, you know, this battle that sometimes is a tont

between protestants, catholic, of why you do that's this, that's idolatria and it's, it's a very beautiful,

it's a precious and no has absolutely nothing bad. That I take a photo and someone admire that

not is a creient of, no it's absolutely nothing, and also and also he said, too

it's for to get to the people of my church, because not it's

necessary that we're peleados. At the final, we're in a same God. For sure. And no pass absolutely nothing. The case of the clove, we believe in a same God, in general, a god universal. Oh, yeah, Oscar, to give us this histories,

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to enjoy what we have prepared with much caro for all of you. And now so, my dear Oscar, we're going to

start to do this history. I want to this story that we have titled the night

in the Serro of Benado. It's a person who has 43 years. His name, Martin Salgado, originator of Santa Maria

of the Tule, Oaxaca, a place in our state. And in what he live, I'd like to know your opinion, because

for me is of the things more fervest and that we don't we find an explanation logic of what

he occurs. He knows that all his family, his papa, his abuel, all the time have been

peregrinous. They've much. Every December, every months of May, he,

all of his family are to go in these can't be in these carerers,

not, leaving the pluriously the plier Guadupana recorrent many and it's

a tradition very beautiful that a long to the long of the years that he

lived, he occurred when he only he only he only he until the

day of he doesn't he doesn't he said, he's that his

mom in that was going a disease. And he decided to do like a kind of a

kind of a incommienda, to make a recorried, well, like, as a method of offrenda,

a virgin. He was to come to a tram very long of the night, until

get to a hermita, to the hermit of the Virgin of Guadupe that is in the

Serro of Venado in San Pedro Mixtepeg, Waxaca. He was he was offered for

his mother or looking the miracle that his mom to do you know, so he decided to do this

carmina this recorried solo the night because he said that day had a much cold

then he was he was going to start to go ahead he was to walk, he started and he said

and said that passed hours, hours hours and hours and hours and getting more or

at this point he went to this hermit he said he says he

to restaner, he was in a container of water, and he was the typical sandwiches in the bolsterisada.

So, he said, and he said, and he said that it were more or less like the

four of the morning. And he was sitting looking the image of the Virgin of Guadalupe

and he said he said, here I go to my offender. Here is where I

am I going to I'm my offering. He says that he gets, he's a rodilla and the image

after after having been a time down to get to a rosario of madera, leave some

flowers that also cargave that you were a little maltratas and he he was

to the virgin. He said for the life of his mom for the mother to

that's to curate et cetera et cetera and he said he was he was

only he was an air frio and like sonnable the laminas this

capitita he says that's he he's he's he's a face

to see the face of the virgin of Guadalupe and that in the moment that he

he he gets looking to the image with faith with

faith, with love he he says something that he does

he does think that maybe view well and I

want in that I I felt that there was a movement minimum, like if the eyes were

just a little in the image of the virgin. I said, I mean, I think that was the canstanceo or

the poor light that was the other. What more could be? But he saw this

image, how this image moved the eyes. But more a lot of to make something

a little or something was all the contrary. He said, that no he did importance he said

he said he he said he said he said he said he said he said

he's not he said he said I'm going to pass the night at the amece

me go I'm going to my house he he says he's he's

he's he's he's to come he's his mochila like amuad

and put he's a mant for taparse He says that That night was the moment

where he occurred something that he made for his life. He said that he came in a dream

very profound and that standing in this dream profound he he was able

to visualize his body like he had he he

started the sensation of much fear and he

started and when he he He, he wanted to startar, no he could desperat.

He said only was conscious, but no could move arms, hands, and nothing. Only was

looking to the techo of the lamina of this capilla. In that moment, he said

that he started a something, something that he recorried his from the

feet to the back. This that he described, says that was

a caminara over his body and a little

humedat he said this is a serpent and he seemed

like a serpent and he was moving between his his

arms and his abdomen and I sentia this

sensation his so and the and of the pain

he said I'm I started to this morded

of the animal in hands and on a

costado here of the body and the he's he was he was thinking

in what this animal came, he's attack but he even not so he could

get a so the the pain was what he provoked that he started

after after after he was he was coming and he had passed

various hours he he sentia even he said like this

liquid raw this liquid vital of his and that was goteating.

But when it's no there was nothing, it had been a dream,

apparently no there's a rastro of the liquid rojo, of a

mordedura, but there was something he was a innercy he revised the hands,

the feet and is when he he knows that there there the rastro of a

not fresh like he had had been a lot of much time of many

years that yeah sano, yeah cicatrizor, and it was a mark. He's revised the hands, the plant of the feet, and

also in the costado, and there was this mark. But he says that I never never took these marks.

So, what happened? He was very confused. He had heard there some things of stigmas

that's about very little in his people and he to clarify these doubts,

back to the people, to the capilla, precisely to talk to talk about to be a

place to be and he gave a information about what he was going, and is when he

gets to this city to talk to talk to the father Raimundo. And it's

in that when he came to talk to him and he he started to his experience

he said that the father was saying that he said, he said, I'm at the Hermita

that's here up he took a I said, and look what I have said that the sacerdote heard all this

without. And when he finished to tell him the sacerdote only said, there are markers that

not question and there are sacrifices that you still have to terminate as penitencia, buske indulgencies.

It was the only that he said, like, the father, I came to find to ask

responses and me more confused or I, I don't understand of what what I

am about? What penitency! And he said that the sacerote, then he said, but he's been but confunded because,

imagineate, resulta, you know, you know, that's been done you, you know, you've done

you know, you know, you're just that's present. This person, well, he's got, confused,

Martin, he's got confused, and he's going, and what's going, years, years,

so, so, this occurred when he had 16 years, today, he's, he's,

he has four, three years, says, the cicatrices are there no came around

any one a millimeter and the worst here every each time but

not is any we're about two feches in special Quaresma and

Semana Santa these hurten no arden no sangran

simply dole and it's dole like if if they

were like if are something that's within of him like that's

like that in those days and cause this dolor. There's there's people who they're

saying that is a miracle, that is like a stigma, a person and for

the contrary there's, there are people who have said that what I have something

is something mal or something contrary to the good about just a thing demoniac

a maldition He says, I don't know what is it, I'm going to the church, no sacerdote has encountered a solution or he has given information.

The problem of this is that me, he's he says, all I don't have family, no I have no, I'm

only, I've been three intents of suicide. No, I know if I'm marked for the good or for the

is the story of Martin that is originary of Santa Maria of Toul Oaxaca

a salute Martin. I think that is something the fact that you have these

markers and I'm talking from a point of personal and with what

so I know I know I'm I'm I'm I'm the word

of God in the Bible mention that for those hered we're

saned and that he's made so he's made for

us so then I'm this part I think that

is something because a miracle would be represented

for something that someone that he he he

he had to he was we don't we do

this so I'm more that it's a thing more of

the more that of what good. And is that I sawke a

little conclusion and I think this is a conclusion my, a

think of my, he mentions something that he is a movement

in the image of the virgin. And oh, no I'm going

to say nothing of the virgin, I respect and a respect

for all my men people, but there images

that are there are there are images of San Juan St. Jude's Tadeo,

images of the Virgin, that not because they represent a mother of Jesus, it's

to say that it's good, because in these images there are there's and that

are puttes in altars to robar the energy of the people that get so I

think I could be there, and what he took really was an encounter with

something was a maligno and how you said, it was it

for mal. It's my conclusion. Yeah, I also think of that way, I mean, it's the representation, no? The figures,

the pictures, the pictures, the stampas not mean to say, reforzano, not mean to say they're

not, but it's a reality that many people also, they're doing, even the image of Christ

is that is a very very very very, because how something so that sacro can be

used to for the malo. Justly. It's quite strange all this

phenomenon. I'll to tell a story. This happened in the 90s. Okay.

And this story the parted Juan, Juan Hernandez. He said that he

was going for a moment quite difficult in his life. He mentioned

that the first problem or the cause of this was a period.

And it was a very, very very very very that

I think nobody in the life is this. Nobody doesn't

in the life, but it's inevitable. Resulta that mom is a infirm and die. This

generates a resentment because he grew in a home totally Catholic. And, and then

his tias, his tios, his primos, and they were to the virgin they had

an help for that to the mother of Juan, but no so it then it

ended and I think there many many when we don't see a miracle,

and so about with a mom, obviously, it's a really, and he's a lot of

and he's not really, because I'm not going to be to get a person who was going to get the

, and this, it was a problem with the time, and I was going, then when so, when they were

these feches of the 12th December, when it was the time that the people had to the

Basilica. A he no he was a lot because he said because he

said he because he years. Passed various years and for there was coming

and he was coming near the basilica and be that they are the people.

And it was very molest that day. Even had had taken the

days the day had much resack mentioned and he said he was coming

and say I'm going to go to this place like me are incommoding

to be many people and all this people who know what is doing, it's like a torpe,

that much people were coming down from very very long, the jury, and you know, of the

juice. And that he was so he had been very a lot of the head,

he said, and it was a desidratated what in reality is a reshacac and that

he's and that's and that I'm just I'm heard a voice, but he

was a voice very very And this voice came to the inside of the basilica.

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What was that? Something's a move here. And he's a question, Ben, Ben at casa, but not was the voice of his mom. He said that was a voice

disconocid. And he commenced to come in front of the place. And there were some how many people for there's listening

the misa there more more people and he he said

that he he's he's that he he's that I'm that he's he said

a voice that's to be to the misa and he said and he

he said he says he said he's about the autism of Jesus like

he was saying there some there and he was he

and this mariava, and I don't know why I was there. It's like what I'm doing here if I've been during much time I've been renegating this

but I'm my attention this voice, because he was talking. And is that he mentioned that the voice was like that

came from the part of the man, between the earja, but at the same time resonable and then

he said that was there, I was there sat there, and of I was to look to the image

where is the virgin and there's San Diego Voltaire to where's the image of the Virgin and is Juan Diego The Ayate

no? The Ayate, exactly. And he says that just like the story that you about you

that he seemed to be that the image was to move and he he thought the crudas

the resaca and he's like he moved the head and of and of I'm to turn to

look to look to to see to work and he mentioned that he something very

strange. He says that he comes to see, like if they're to start

to get like, and that's, but why I'm I'm so,

I'm feel like so, he says he he back the look at

and the virgin not is that. And I see a sound absolute. Is that

what is that is what is what is that is what he's kind of see how

someone is parted in front of him but he he

could to lift his rostro, he said that he was

a look at a car. There was a light very

very very and that at the time I'm much a

peace and and he said I've been I've

been I've been of you my is good and

he says he in that he starts and he he's

he's he starts the A-lo-lejo, it was like an echo. He says that, practically the Virgin, he says, you are as a little bit of a child

in which could have complacency. Dice, he, that don't understand much these words. He not was not so, and he said, how is that I can't be a child you? If, during much time,

I've acted this way. And he says that carisia, so sweet, sooved, he began to be very quite hostile. In that

moment, he said that the caricia commenced to be sure a man here in the cooey.

And he they're going to presser. And he said, why me is this? Why me

you're saying? If you you want to be here, it's necessary that he

can't but that you mengues. And I'm don't understand what

What you're saying. He's just, he was battling. All that dulcura, he started to have fear, temer. And he said, what's going to be supposed to be

a miracle. Should be full of love, of peace, of tranquillity. And he says, what I'm going to get to do you. I'm going to

get to do. And he says, you're going to do you know what's the correct? But what is the correct? Matar to?

To get to? A Juan? A what, Juan? A, to you? And he says he's that

he's he's a and he's a car at the misa and he'll be to see a turdidid

and he comes to come to come in and say that the people is the he said that he said

he said that he said he said he'd and he but not I think that the

people don't know imagine so the whole alcohol and you trys a

lot of sometimes the stuff like says that he gets and he he gets a

and that when it's is you see in the mirror? It's all the light of the

light and then the last the legaments that I'm the image or the reflection of

Juan Diego he was like he was like he was he's all the and he

got to his house he went to one of his tias that was

of the religious and her mother of his mother and he said

he said me he said he said that these words that I

just So I was balbucea to his tia. Dises that me said some words very feas, very extraneas,

more than you. And yeah, her tia and he says, well, what you have to hear, well,

is part of the story of the baptism of Jesus, but it's very rare, no? And so your tia

and you know, you are resentied, but she always will be to be to be with you. And she's

always to keep doing to mom that you do it and you do it and you

do it to accept it. The I'm the is that is he

he had he had much time taking much time where

malgast his or the little money that he he

he was a change in his life he said he said that

he never never had had felt this this

this temor never had perceived these change of

power practically because I said that literally was is living

clear he's he he's he's he's he he has

he has he has more than 26 years sobri with that he's

I don't I'm how was what was what was what was what I was

that this made so I'm so I'm I'm going to talk and I'm I'm going

for this lot not is religious he says that now he doesn't respect

to my family respect to the people to the people who have these I do legitos, but even

still I'm gladiating, I don't know if it was for well, the fact of having seen this vision, that's me appeared the Virgin and practically me said,

he said, I mean, he said, I don't know what you think, I'm more like a hallon of ears, like mom, when you

say, hey, if you I'm, I'm, but compote. Jol'le, a bit, is that the

the, of a carisia and a preton in the coo, a strangulation, I think

is very different to what could probably a apparition of saying, but we're to leave it

a haloncito of o'rejas, because it's a can interpreter of many. Yes, I mean,

I mean, I'm going, I mean't we're seeing mom. Yeah. And there are moms

that are very cariosas. There are mamas that maybe not and his way to show a more,

we're in this generation, that if we're done our cock-tasos, our chalones of o'reja and not it's

to make. Portate well. For sure. That's the way. Oscar, I want to this story titulata

the Culebra in Pass of the Macho. It has a man very strange and right I will explain

because. And the and the Comparte Macario Hernandez, a person that is

originary of Costco Matepeg Veracruz and I want to give a context

because he said that in that he and some members of his parroki

were in plen a peregrination and when he mentioned the Culebra

is a form to call to when some people take a soga

a cuerda a ariata as ariata, as they can say

they puten in an extreme of a carreterer and

they're to pay donations to the people who go in the vehicles. That's the Culebra

or, I know, in some some areas here in the sub-este. But we want to

put it as a recaudation of the money. The those the

people have been have come many hours, imagine it in plen

sun, with with and then they're putting these offerings

to the people they're they So, one has sustained to each other, and another, with a boat, pete

and they're passing to the people in their vehicle, and they're going to be a money of a $1,

$2,000, $5,000, when he was $20. That's what has what has to be with the Culebra.

And why he passed the macho? Because this occurred to a place called so,

pass, the macho. Dice that, well, he was, he had come for much

hours, I was with And of all the cities, there were children, there were adolescents, there were adults. And he said that in that occasion to have taken

to sustain the boat where they chavann the money. They were all there were and he passed a vehicle. He's a vehicle

just a old old, and this vehicle no don't. Passed some meters, but it's par, like

that's a brieie and he's a hand with a billet then Macario's Acerca, and when

he comes he gets a question that was a woman. I want to hear of this description that

Macario. He said, it was a woman, approximately about about 30 years, but had

an appearance very extrana. It was a woman that was completely calva,

he had some eyes very undied and some hogeras very pronunciated

and had a look a looker a In the part of the back

there's a little about a one of a baby like a of a both

calves also. But the mind of the man of eight years

was like and the and the and the face of the was

very very feo. He had a very abegentated like

if if it was like to be a little chikito

he he he did a mal spina when these

people, and over all because his skin was very black. It was like black, almost

translucida, grisacea. And this woman and he says what people are so rare.

And this person, this woman, he's got a billet of 500 pesos Mexicans

an equivalent more or about about 25 dollars. Saca and he

for inercia and for reflex stira the hand and he he's this

woman says here to go an offender for the puta

of the tepe in the piece he says he when he when he

he received this billet was a shock that an

energetic because he said he said he was like he was

like he was and apart he says that when he gets

he he he he he humid and then then a aroma like

a metal and he does a count of that he was getting this bill was manchated

of this liquid vital rojo and he said that I'll look to see to

see and the three he was looking he with a look a look

a a demoniac he says that he'll he'll he

he's he ranca his vehicle and he he kept completely petrified. He said Macario, that no knows

how much time he went looking to the carreterer. And that his companions, the other peregrinous he had, oh, yeah.

He was the he was the boat, the boat, well, the money, and he said that they

took on the shoulder, and he was he was completely going to look at the carreterer.

He said that he's a son Elisoe, a peregrino a bit a little bit more that year

on year was of those that were of this kind of an torch and he says that

this sir, and this is the other the other peregrinus the cross

the rosario that he was put in the front and says that when he's the front

Macario came like like to go and all the things all what he was feeling

in this moment he said that he was to cry of the rodillas, yorando,

but I sentia much a lot of his body, he said that was a lot fear, much fear,

much temor, much nostalgia, and all his companions, the members of the parochia, the peregrinus, they said,

what you have, what you have been, you know, you're a time here and we're talking and

you're not you're not and he he says, he's, he's, he's to tell to all of

all of all of what he said, what he said, what he said this woman,

his children, the appearance. And he said that all the people are

doing this. None one didn't do, no, no, no, he was

all, everyone, they were with much attention. And he said, also,

also, they said that they were, they're, they're, and some people,

men, more great, he said, they said something, because they said,

he said, in these feches, that we we're doing a cult major to our mother,

the devil no he doesn't. The maligno and he unquieto. Other member,

another peregrino he said what you, what you did, or what you stood there was nothing

more and nothing less than the death. And others said, no, you've seen

the devil. So the devil he was manhaling and was who Tomo,

well, you know, presence in that moment and he talked, and he was a

molest. Macario no know what he said, he says, he has this is a

time, he has many, many, maybe, if it's a woman with his

children, but the appearance, the sensation, the energy that emanable these

people, the rostros that demoniacos that they had, to him he has

thought that he was present ante a entity very an entity. So, what I see

is that that's the day I don't be able to be able to but I've felt like

if those three seres of soon they'd be able to topar in the because

so it was how it's so much people think that encounters

with demons because it's like in the midnight in a cross

of the three and 33 and he was He was in plenno day, mediodi

with his group religious, peregrinous to final of the point, bidding donation

to charge a tachito and he toped with this. That's all all very, very dense.

It's a thing to find you with this type of manifestations about what he said.

Exactly. I do I dood I'm evidently I'm going to censor here

in the channel because it's very very very far. Yes, I

think manifestations, as well as you know it's necessary that's a night.

There's people that have lived in the morning, in the day, at the food,

I don't know because it's more, yeah when are more the 10, or

maybe, but it's very strange. You know, you know, you know, you know, to be a

time, or you see a similar to this. What are you, Puck? No, see,

See, that I've asked me, I've asked other times. And, evidently, one thinks, no, I'm going to do this,

I'm going to do that. But it's, it's so chistos that when occurs, no does

nothing. Or in the majority of the person does it, because it's an event so fortuit

and that get in the moment less indicated, and you get in a curve, as we're

so, so you know how react if you're to be or more, Firtualtally you can't,

like, contain a little that energy and reprender it. But if you're normal, I think,

no, no, no reactions. I'll tell a story about a miracle. These

stories me fascin. And he is a Joaquin, or more said, to her

his wife. Her his wife Miriam had a little strange. It's

called Leukodistrofis. And this a disease conform it's going to get a

mobility, commences to get a problem, even the vision, and there's to be a

procedure there's a transplant of a meddle. Imagine a little nine of

seven, eight years approximately passing this disease, any the

children, no man doesn't be able to be able to do this type of tribulations.

So, Joaquin comes to desperars, he, and he So obviously, they're like in a

treatment. To the house of Joaquin are your tias. They're in the perigination.

And of a time, the tia, this, she's, that they call. The Tia Philippa,

then, then, and he says, I know that you're going for a moment very difficult.

And that's her other Tia, she's going to be to do you are very ageno

to what we we're but we're but the miracle suede, my

and have hope in that the Virgin and God, you're going to be with you.

And yeah go to the Tia Pippa and then the other the other Tia. And so

when the abelita and they do it, and it says that he does the hand,

and in the hand, he had a little a stampita and he says, Piedle,

she she will give a to give a lot, and take a fact, that to be a

the stamp and it was it was to a gris that no had a color and he guard her in

the cartel she went in the stia she kept her with her with her going to

go to go to the hospital and then and then so I'm to ask to be a

what's the better that can be so I'm my he's in treatment and

we don't we don't want how they can't how to resolve this

the only that I But it's a miracle. And he says that he he's a stampita and he commenced to maybe

to pay him because he also was a person very diastro to rest. And he paid help the sky.

God, for favor, concede this miracle. Help us. And he that the stampita

the guard or the put it down to the armada. Constantly he was saying,

his his didn't not that's he was to go to get to

imagineate to a period of a little bit of a man never you know that's

that you don't that's to be there's that's maybe because it's

a stamp it if I go and I go and a statue I put some

some I'm I think can't do you think they're in the

house come a statue of the virgin he put flowers

he with a vellators, et cetera. And he's there's a person, well, I think there's a miracle if my Tia me said,

that's, that's sure that's, and we're going to offer us to this. And they said constantly they'd go to

go to the person, the little, the little, the little, the new, well, he'd be a

other way, back, back to the hospital, and God, because me does this. Pazas

a certain and they're in the hospital. He's there with his husband, is Joaquin, is her the little bit of the girl

almost no could have the new year the new year and they were to do the medulla and we're going to

expect to that this function and he says he came he's all the transplant etc etc

and the and the and the point the she was a and and he starts

to balbucear some things And he says, well, he's, well, he says, well, is, how is this, baby? And yeah, the nina, Papa, I'm sorry. Pace the time, he's going to buy some, some of those, some of the videos, and the other.

And he's kept in the passillo, and he's kept practicing with the medical, and he said, oh, how does? And he's, no, the nina, the nina, the nina, will be bettering, you don't get purr is. What he had to do you, it's going to be going to be able to be able to be able to be a observation and no will pass nothing.

Confian we're in us. He's going to go to go to be in the baby and he's

he gets out of where she was the interned and and then he's he said that

the little he says thank my mom for being thank for me

care for start me and he he's my head is so my son he says

with who you know with mom but mom's not here. No, the that's

no, the and he says that he does a much emotion and he put in the eyes

and he says like, thanks God, thanks to the Virgin that was intercedying

for us and you and he he's a face in the front to his head.

And he says that the virgin always has helped. Your Tia, your tias

us told you're going to be interced for us and so it's a miracle.

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Holiday Insiders report. Please feast responsibly. So who was? And he said that the little bit of the matthewa, saco a stamp like that they had done. But that this

stamp was more clear. But it was the same. It was similar. Aha. He said that the Tia, that he gave the stamp to Papa, also went to be and he gave one different. And he he said,

you, pite to her that she will be to save how I me.

And he sent the stamp to the papa, and it was a stamp of the

death. And to the father, so he gets out of and it

says, no, no, no, it's I'm, I'm saying,

but apparently she was the she was the person, because when I

felt that I was going she entered to this court, and at

At first, me made fear because he was a vestia totally of black, and he

put his hand in my front and she sent some those wussito. And me said that

he was being because I'm was doing. Here is where came the

dilemma. The papas and the Tia Pippa they were trying to the

other the other Tia, the that he does the don't

so devot, or, more said, has this mix of creensies. And she

has a part of the virgin, have the altar of the santa in their house.

The little the new thing, but his parents said that they were they were the

church. We're going to let us the people write in the people who what was what happened in

this event in this anecdote, because there are situations where they cross

these creensions people who have those some cults to certain deities

and at the same they're others more. So we have seen in

Mexico like this great variety of creencia and create

these cruises we're let's let's these mesclas of

creencers of persons that they need a an adida, they're

a God, they're to say the people, they're to say the people, they're in the people,

and then the thing, I'm sorry, that interrup it's, here the important is that the little bit,

and that's that there's a miracle, no, a miracle, also, also, it was the

medicine of the middle. And at final, I think it's what more to be

important that a person human, I've got to have a new. What history

so far people, I'm going to finalizing a story, that I remember

a one of of the stories that marked a one before this podcast, the story

of the Bruchas of Chalma, those relato that really impression much to

a much to a much, because a part of that moment more people

of the state of Mexico and persons of Chalma precisely they

started to give to give us and those testimonios I bring this

night the relato of Tomas Villagran a person that is originary of Tenancingo

State of Mexico. I hope it's pronounced well. This person us says something

is something that not only he, but a group of a group of a

night and it was something that marked a difference in other cities where they've

been and has been things many strange. He us he says

that in certain feches of year, much people go to Chalma looking

a miracle. There's there's the Sanctuary of the Lord of Chalma, that has

a great history that of the years 1,500 and about and it

is an image very miracleousa. And I want to give a context

about to this. In the year approximately 1,5 39

or Well, it's a miracle. We'll call it so. In this zone, there were a group of frailes that were dedicated to the evangelization of the Mexico

pre-Hispanic. In that then, they were rended cults, you know, to different entities, deities, deities, dioces. But in this

zone, specifically to be used to the God Ostoteotl, the God of the obscurity of the caverns. So when

they're in these frail see top with this cult and in this zone precisely

there are in these coves and in these coves is where the antivos nativos

of this zone rendian the cult to this God and what they

they were to offrenda to this God beings people and persons

and personitas when these frailes get to this

son they are a statue in a and all the piece

tapisado of rest humans. Obviously these friels are spantan and they

are aterran all this and they started the evangelization very strong in this zone

and destroy the image in a stone and recogent those the rest

osios that were there. They decided to the third day to

this site to to be if some people don't

reconstruct in the altar and for his surprise what is

there is a place is a figure of a

Christ that is the figure that is in the

sanctuary in the sanctuary of the sanctuary of Chalma and

it's to after that moment that they they

can because there there more there and not know how is

that of the nada, it's of Christ there. So, a part of that moment, it's one of

the santuaries most important in Mexico. Many people, millions of people, go to these places,

to give a miracle, they're doing these peregrinations to Chalma, and there can't be

mountainosos, even there creencies very fertes, because they say you you're going to see,

you're going to be not you're not confiated of your miracle, you can't convert it in a pietra. And is that

there are various rocks around of that sanctuary with rostros, human, eyes, boca,

naris, and what narrs the people originaries of this, of this place,

is that of the the of the people incredululas and irrespectuos that got to this

sanctuary and turned converted in pied for all the eternity. So,

under this context, I'll tell the story of Tomas because it's a person that constantly went to Chalma in peregrinations,

in these caninatas, and he had talked with many legends, bruchas, duendes, because in these

can't the state of Mexico, passing things totally asombrosas. He said that night

he was coming with a group of the people of the to a few meters of where they

went to they went some lights and they're the attention because not only Tomas see these

the luses all the group of peregrinus see this light and is that in this zone

full of mountains there are many coves there are many ques

and he says that the peregrin and in that moment all both

they're to look to look to those first were two loces,

then it was another more, three, and they were like flamas

of fire, like if one person was doing like a fogata, but after this

flama was a moveia, like that was out of the cave,

and like they were in the three flamas of fire like,

balls of that were and said the people kept impression

but the peregrin more more robust were mentioned

that they had to prepare to spiritually because what they were they were they're not more and

nothing less than more than more than this carinatas there were people and people

that were that were in other occasions in those recorribors and he said that

the people new were easy to identify because when you go to a pregrination

in Chalma the people newas they're a coroner of flowers

the people who have been for second a crown of spina and he he said he he noted that

there were many people because they had a coroner of flowers and a woman

a mother young of an 18 years that he was with his baby

in arms practically practically like penitencia he was coming

with because his baby was he was a infirmito

and was he was he was peregrin with all, coming,

cargating his baby a youngsit. And he says that they're impressed on when they're the lot of

balls of fire, saliented to the world. And they said that they started between all to

be rosarios. They were coming, and rezzing the Santa Rosario, he felt about some kilometers

to get to get to the church and he said that they're to be going to be

out out. But they they were all the peregrinos major, the most grand

started to say that this were bruchas and that they were to start aletheos

grand like if were they're o'holotes or abes very great. And he said

that in the light they were but not they were they were

they because you're you're going to in a bus and

in a morcielagos only just you just what you see

so that so it was there were very great what

was was so and says that the Peregrinous

had Mied. And Tomas was going to this. He said that

came to get to there's there's there. Passed the night and Tomas

took a dream. He said in this dream, he was being like a ball of

fire started to move in the sky. Arriva to where they were

camping and dormiening the and you see how this ball of going

going and and the Pronto, like that he came

to form and now was a big and that came in the peregrinous that were

dormied and he went to where was to that was that the woman with his

baby and be how from his pico he took the manta and he he's got

Tomas he says what pesadilla that's this I'm so I'm so I'm so this

and what they were the people grand, but all past the hours, he begins to see much murmur between the people, much alboroto, gritos, but it was a specific of a woman.

It was that a young mother, deserperated, grittando, what happened? The baby, his baby, to who was,

to who wasabrasing to pass the night, there, disappear. How? Desaparcio? The signora says that

no desperto in all the night, he did a dream very profound, and at the morning, the radios

of the sun getting to the car, and she and she doesn't to her she doesn't, she doesn't,

she, she doesn't. Her his wife not was. He said said that he said,

he said, because there more people, there's more people, there more

all they're to get a to get the sacerdote they're

to get a little Tomas was conscious of what he had he said

what I do I do I do I don't do and if only was a

and if was a dream and if me met in problems

but he said there these there were that were grand

of age that had like a car very and

he is a is near one of them and he said, I can

tell a what happened? Yes. And Tomas he said to his companions of his parroquia and

he said he told all the abe, how they were all this. And he said that they said

we're saying, yeah we know, we know we're going to happen, we're that they

had been back. When we did the Santo Rosario, we thought that's

we've No, they're because they did know that there was a baby in the group of

people where we came. We're we're not. He's said that for them, the thing

of the baby was caused by a a bruca and so because it's so I'm

that I'm that I'm that I'm that group of people saw these

balls of the Tomas no no he can believe other people

and they told to this young mother what they they were but this woman

was not he's not he's not he members of people people people

of this people were they were in the graves never

they never encountered to the little Tomas we we

came to Chalma we all all we had

we had we had we didn't the preenation

but, but all, like very very impacted, impressioned for what he had lived.

He said, this night every that I was, because he lives close there. Or,

better, it transit a much of this city. He says, I'm observe from the caves,

something from the little, something something with an alas. And now I understand

because many say that in Chalma, if not you go, the way, the way,

the way, I'm I would like to hear the comments also of the

people of this part of the state of Mexico because are much the

the relats of brucas Naguels in the commin' Chalma me record a

little to a story that we say they say they're in the really a person,

a chica us just a parted that had and it's rapid of the

bolone we're part that they'd in their house was your brother

recently and that the little he could do not all the time

was in the father and he was not I don't recall

so you also in the state in the state but I think

the man had turns very long and he was

and when he he had to when he was the

little quiet in the madug and was an odice

practically and And he says that a recina, or her mom said to do know that a decina

of the part of the back to that was doing some signs. But he said that were signs very

raras. And she starts to have this intrigue of what was going because

there was rumors that in that there was that I'm saying. And he

says that he says that this she goes to this woman, going to have a

woman, there, there are a parallel to this house, or better I'm not

the woman was doing like these signs and says that they're they're

and the girl and the she put nervouses because they were she said she said

hello becina how you're no says fickate that

yesterday I was saying that was your little you're and the

other nights and I see something and I said that

the she I said, what you've seen? Dises that y'er, that you were you were in the tachio of your

house and I was making signs. No, man. That's, that you did you back. And yeah,

yeah, like, it's he said, but what did you? Disses, you know, I don't know if you're going

to say, but I did, as you know mentioned in this story. Dice the said the lady, that view

a baby a baby a big, uh, arrived in the but he said that

they were practically in the same position where was the woman

with the woman was over this ad and then they were a woman

was a woman, she were a person, and he did a little

and he said there there there there there and the

car and the year of this is that the woman the

and the woman of the baby when he was in the

when he was she I had food, he'd he'd like, he was

he had some his care of the baby. And they they were a recommendation for

there, they put some a new, and then baptized to the little.

This chica that we mentioned that that was that was the point that the

that's that's and for that's he's he's he's he's

no, it's that me, me, I'm I'm pardon for

the goal, but I accorded of this history. No, no. And is that, I go, volvying a little bit of the theme of Chalma, well, I told a story very strong, where also, we'll talk about the raptor of a baby, but here

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Here we go to the number one. That's this story the Amanda Verna. Verna is a person that's a person

that's an engineer agronum and says he's getting these insumos to the

people who is a agriculture and for end they under much in the carreter

so he says that he said this is this so said in Pueblo says

that he said that many people are of different parts of the

republic and pass for these carreteras. And even they, as a

person, they're to know, oh yeah, go to the people, go to the perigination

with a good to get some type of accident, because in really many many

they're not. We know. We're know. We're people imprudent,

with high- high-s- and it's dangerous. And then, and then they've been

advised. You know, there's a certain tramo where there many people,

awas. It's well, it's Verna that he took to give to

give a little and I'm a carionette of these because of the time. Yeah,

he's he's going and he's a group of people that are in the

oria and evidently they're people that are to the city of

Mexico. What to you call the attention is that was that was

a group of five or six persons and they were there and

And then he's pita because he said that always he liked. At the final, he recorded an abelita, he recorded a mom, of the, well, of the creencers. And the spita,

is like, like, he says to, God, and he advances, he does a count that no any more ahead.

And he's thinking, I atrasn't I see to other people. They're allos. Apart, yeah, it's

tardecito. And yeah he says that he gets thinking and if he happened something,

it's oria and it's a little and he's he gets doing, all the

good, so he said one of you know, is that he's the guy, he's a

man, and he says, if they're they're not, he says, yeah, it's all the world,

and they say they're saying to say, he's up a man, and the man,

he's up with him in the cabin, and the others they went in the part of the back,

he said it's that it's a lot of a lot of and they're in a lot of and they're going to come back

and then he's a man he said, he said he'd have been much time doing this and that

they've been so that they were so that they're so they're so they're they're just they're waiting

to be if someone and then and then they were talking about all these practices

that he he, he, and his son's her, Incluso, there's a group of netsch, I mean, Sadoon Nacho,

Nacho, and his primos, you're going to be there practicing. And they say, no, but, they're going to be with careful. Apart, they're here, all disabrigated, or he's going to pass something. No, no, no,

pass nothing, this, we're doing with much devotion. Of course, it's, it's a tradition familial, and we don't to be able to

start presentes in this. And, well, they're there and they're there Pronto, I said, Berna, I had to

carry a gasoline, and yeah, me was able to get a point to get, and the fact is that we'd be,

or I could be, more than the group of people with those people, and the man, and

he said, I'm going to carry gasolina, and yeah, of the group, we're going to get a patte, and I those

just left there with them. Yeah, no pass nothing. Yeah, in this gasoliner,

Verna, Well, you know, it was his route. There's a car in the car. A delante, go to him. And he says,

what on, Berna, how on? You know, you know, here, you know, here, I'm going to my new

friends, to the peregrination. And so, the summa, the gasoline, and says, well, so,

and I'm going, and he said, and he said, that's the side, and where he came, his son, no,

they were, and I'm, and I'm, and I said, you're, you're saying, you've been talking with

some people. You're like. You say, you know, I'm going to me those

I'm going to get to be able to work with Don Nacho, with Natcho and came to his prism, his

and he said he's the feeling bad, like he to get to get to talk about,

it's in this gasoliner to see that there's that's that there's in this

restaurantes. Uh-huh. So, he's just he's a water and he says the the chick

the chick that you don't know that's like me do in the pecho, no

if you Falido. And he says, is that right he came to come to and he he said to

do this that I've mentioned. And the chica he says, wait a and he's

like to the kitchen and he he's a a quadro periodico. Dachio Don't

Nacho and his family. No, manch! Dic's Diss's, yes,

they're they're all those who were in the carmettta, they're here in this photo. He said, Abre well the note.

Those people in a Peregrination perjured a life in this tram. And this is this chick,

not you're the first it's just it's rare that not you have said before the but the

people who work in the gasolinerer here in this place, many of those who get us

they're just they're just they're just they're doing they're doing they're they're talking with them

and they they're they're they're there. Errantes. If you you do

the A little bit, there are the cruises of those people. Ah, la, beastia. That's

a medium scalofrious, is that that's to, that's to be living, with, with,

and, you know pertaince in this world, and you think it's a ball

of the water-friah, is an impression very very strong. And is that in Mexico,

well, occur in these things of the peregrinus that are in carteras

and, And, there are these accidents, these tragedies. What's the way to terminate this episode?

How did it? Very well. And, and other way, quidens a lot. I know that's very beautiful the traditions,

the creensias. But we don't know of the people that are in carterters and they're going to get there, cotorriading

too, because then there are tragedies that not to this, the contrary. For sure. Oscar,

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ahead in a new episode. Until the next. Ciao. There was a t'u-a-t- in the basilica.

You see this? No. In some form, he was out of his body and saw his

body parted in a million perils. And, and then out of a sudden

a lot of detonation and all go and see what's going to be what's going to. The scene was practically installed a

bock in his. The scene totally a car ricketya the head part of his head

his rostro his he was literally in a in a piece of a penceo of afto

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