EXTRA ANORMAL - El Ritual Prohibido y Pactos Demoníacos: La Santa Muerte al Descubierto

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

En este impactante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias y Josué Velázquez desenmascaran la verdad oscura tras los rituales y pactos demoníacos. Descubre por qué la Santa Muerte no es "santa" ni benévola, sino una entidad demoníaca, y cómo incluso los satanistas sufren las artimañas de Satanás, cuyo único propósito es perjudicar a la humanidad. A través de relatos aterradores y testimonios reales, analizamos:Los mecanismos de seducción y engaño en los pactos con fuerzas oscuras.Casos en los que la búsqueda de “protección” se convierte en una trampa mortal.Historias verdaderas de personas que, tras invocar a la Santa Muerte, vivieron consecuencias devastadoras.Por qué Satanás se vuelve contra sus propios adeptos y cómo reconocer las señales de un maleficio.Prepárate para conocer el lado más siniestro del ocultismo y aprende a protegerte de engaños que pueden costarte todo.🔔 ¡Suscríbete y activa la campanita para no perderte más revelaciones que desafían la realidad en Extra Anormal Podcast!

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could with me but he you can say abertament that you can't be in a

risk of that these these entities that are in some moment they can they can

attack? Yes, and there there is a But it's an osamenta human real. But there are Ricketta Barca separated and said,

look, my mother, and I'm going, because funanito of that, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he said that he said, you know, oh, Enrique, what, what happened with that era? That's what he said.

Much of people say that the Santa Morta no is no one or not no Santa. That is more an entity malignant, a

demonia. Yeah, is a demonio. For me, the Santa Morty is a demonio. I'll tell something that never I've never.

In the more of 270 episodes, to me have done at me have done in many times.

So, because not they like a much bruchos what I know and what

I do. So, but then I'm here I'm. What I'm not going to be able to be able to be able to be able to be. What's how? How are,

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to start in a episode for all of you know, in this

occasion family, we we know I think is of my favorites

the thing I'm that I'm talking and of what all

time we we're talking and this episode so

special we we another person How are, Josue? Very, content, Paco,

of being to be in your studios, to have the opportunity to share the experience that through the

years I've acquired in that I've been in my miscued, I'm learning. Thank you, thanks,

again. Josue, I know that much people know, you know, years, you've been

selling in television, in different programs, for your case, et cetera, but for

if there there, first. I'd like that, for favor, the presentes,

who are you? And if you use your social, what are you? Much thanks, Paco.

My name is Josue Velasquez of Terreiro. I'm a practicante of the

burghiria Mexican. I've many years in the studio profound of the

study of the demon and his manifestations. Echiceria, brugery, all what has to

be with a practice religious was autotctona of Mexico, Mexican. I'm an author of various

books, in fact, which is one of the most recentes that's called Pactos and Conveniors

that has to be in specific, about the way in that a mortal, a individual

common and corient can receive favors of the demonio without, without

receiving damage of one. And, it's a book that is a

I mean, I d'n't many years, in, in power and conjures for, well, to be able to

receive the favors of the demonio. Okay. That sounds very very, man,

it's a very, yeah. Look, well, before this, you do this, you use your

social? I've been a page in Instagram that's called Casa Grimorio. No, no,

I don't have pages to my name, but it's a And so you can put in the books of Josue Velasquez

and then to be able to know the titles that I've I've got a trotelopedical about the true way of practicer the brogheria Mexican. Perfect. It's very interesting. Wow.

Herman, thank you. Thanks, thanks for that presentation. Family, we're going to do this episode. You want to mention something that I don't know.

It's an episode Cargated of much information, carried also of many many experiences fervent.

So, for favor, take your evidences because of a repent there are people very

sensible to these things. So, I always have mentioned. The brujeria not always is a

not always like the Mago Merlin. No. There are things very dark,

very sinistras that also can be done and this episode is carried of much information

valiosa of your part. I don't thank much. And, And also

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night. Now, now, let's let's, let's, let's do talk about.

Afore there are many people that say that a person human, quaker,

no can't say, there. There are other people who say,

that even even even if even in America, that's in other continents,

Europe, et cetera. There are other people that say, that if can be

that, but, it's like the mere demonio in Lucifer, no, Satanas,

are other entities malignas that get because at not be like a God

omnipresent or not can't be in all the times that they are

invocating. What you can say of this? Well, I can talk

my practice religious that I have more of my life

and I not only only it's like I did I do I do

have been years of preparation constant of the of

other countries of a preparation with other sacerdotes because

the cult the demon has their own their people they're they're

they're doones of secretes to invoke to generate

that is really what is what is a man

and although it's true that the demonio we

we know we we can we we don't of the

demonology and the literature European there exist many

many numbers but at final, only is Satanus. It's like about

the always Virgin Santissima Maria of Guadalupe or the Fukila. The Hukila

or the of Los Angeles or of the conception, but it's the virgin only is an entity

only is an energy. Satanus is a energy is an adversary our

and the culto is to solicit to solicit the dwean of this system of things that us permit to complete,

for what our destiny has has been marked. The demonio is the possibility to be in any place to hear the possibility of

all of all the only that can, a difference for example, of God altissim, powerful,

is, then interpret the personmient. Okay. No, can't also enter

in your Voluntat Well, no God Frantisim, he can. With our

libretri Exactly. So what the devil is he has known as as is create

a trapas that you make in the peccado for so so,

but he is precisely the sentinela of those places

of castigo. So the error generalized Paco is

that the people suppose that for being a lot or to be in contrae of God Santissimo, Yabe, for so

to say it, Jehovah, or any then the demonio, you're going to receive his favors.

A me me scribe much, confessing me, confessing me many things, of that,

I did this and, and, well, no, I don't receive that I'm

what I'm and then the question is, because, because the demon is malo. So,

because they are that is Oh, then I'm going to be a friend of a... I'm a... I'm a man. I'm a man. But the demonio no is malo. The job of the demonio is seducirte for that you do you do

the things malas, but at the final is the that he will castigar. So, no, no, we understand so. Another other grand equivocation even of satanists famous, affamados, is considerer that Satanas

is a God. And Satanus odia that you know that's a level of the

altiss he is he and also satanas provien of the

father or he made a image and his he has an origin

angelical so so so a so a satanista that

says satan is my unico God so no no

no no important is that no is that there's that literature

as a example in the religion judicrystian or in other cults

that you talk about the veneration of the demonio not they

exist because the those many scribas or or

know of this so just just they just

they don't exist really in the world many so many books

of cult to the demonio there's about chisceria about about

alchimia invocations but but no exists like a a bible satanica

wow yeah pardon me that this other clarification is my

perception the the Bible for example of the bay this well

no it doesn't have nothing nothing to with a cult

satanista not as we we is ador an energy of the earth. Some things

different. In this way I've talked with many people and I've mentioned also I've talked

with satanists luciferinos et cetera and are different things, different forms even to

different philosophies that are in these groups of people who have the cult of demonio or

a satanass but but of a repent we top us we're people who

think that because they're adorating to do the devil or the demonio

are going to do things bad. In this case, criminals. For example, what is

the more that did you do you? And sit with the freedom to say it

to do it. Obviously this was a something that was to be a

person to know, and say that the devil doesn't know that even have

been, not are not some situations isolated. Maybe I've been

a person very exposed in the media. The people have seen with a liberty

to put me there a declaration practically and I have to recorriar to the

policeia okay because are things that are going to so so so I

so I don't say so I say I don't I can say I don't know I can't

know I don't know if it's lehal or no but no I see

remitied totally that to the the fiscalia because the raptor

of the when they're they're they're not so well no I don't know I think

you know in Mexico there's a market of car human I suppose that in

other countries just I know I know I've known in

in Texas that I I was in TN's and that they were in TN's and they were

and it was because you have to because you know that they're

like they comprable the skin. So, they'd not see, a microtom

or something to get to get rebanadas of the people, those, these,

they'd and they were in the deep web, no, I know, so I know,

I know, so I know, so many years. Well, now, there have been a person

that you have said, oh, this, maest, fickest, that I'm doing this,

but right me's that I'm heard, I'm, I've heard, voices, this,

I want that you say, if are the spirits or or me I'm getting the mal

loco. I can I interactor briefly because what's what does it suppose? That can

be under the influence demoniac or is something and it's when they're

when they're in Mexico well, no, no, I'm saying well, I'm here

where I mean, this, and then I I'd a pure vessel of mortals

you know there's there's there's there there's there there

of samentas but it is illegal no this and there there there is

there there or leaders of other cults that me need in this

so the kind very fresh and then then I don't

can't end tante he if this is of or of

the morning and then I have And so has occurred

with people that well, no I can say this because me

I can put in risk but well, they've captured people thanks

to the denuncias and not because I just because well, for example

the difference of the United in the groups in those in those

that I had there was there there was that voluntarily

voluntarily voluntarily and so and can So, something, we can't exemplify those.

My body is sano, because you can't someone who can't get a or something. My body is a new.

My body is a lot. And you can't, and the sacerdote, the leader of the cult,

can't of the money because you want to you're going to your family and you give you

don't without problem. It's still being illegal, no, that of I don't,

I don't I don't I can ask someone that me mate,

and being sick. Well, the autonacea. In Mexico, well, well,

so it's talking about to be 20 years. So, all these these crimes have

been evolutioned. One person that had written of Michiacan,

this, let me think, so I can't talk this, because there

are people that are out. Yes, and then they're offended. No, you can't change the names and all this. No, no, no, no, it's like to courtes what I'm going to to talk about.

Okay. What I'm trying to have to be careful is, because you know, you know, you know, because, you know, connoissell these people, know when you're talking about them. Okay. Although the disfraises and, say, he's of,

he's of Tijuana and I think I'm of Kanku. So, they know, they're saying, always when you're referring to you're referring to them and then they're so they're

nojano but for example there are cases actual in the fiat

when still was the procurator general of the republic a me

me not not notifico a me me he called a

an an investigator let's say a police of

an person he was he he was he was a year

he was a a group criminal that operable in this descendant of

the Cavaliers Templarious and me he said we've encountered many

in cases in casas this the cannibate the cannibalism and obviously they've found in

those groups sectarious as a group criminal that has disappeared so

soces soces yes but books in where is all the

all the process because not if you know that in the Cavaliers Templarious

did a a um a a his martyr to his

first leader that assassino the exceited okay they they

recovered the and they embalam and they rendian cult and they

they were and they they were and they're posile with people

with people and they're they all that part as part

of a part of a ritual the tuta even they've had narrated all this

but a time before that I said I've been about a police and he said what what

is that what cult does this the burghry the bourgeois the Mexican

practic this no the the brusheria afrodescending do

do they do so no for those they use they're because

yeah so it's prohibio the Sanger human has

years. It's not it not is of a concilio recent that's

to be years this me said because we think we

think we a carmion a van a van

here was there in the car and came in a

retent of the retens the he know the

professor Mireles I for those who do they

they declared it was a BEN it of children

of the city of Mexico in a caja refrigerated but they were vivos okay

they were they're alive they're they're and then the procurator in that moment

the commissioning for the pass in Michoacan that in that was Castillo no I

remember his name this well it was in a in an

interview well what was super although it was a So, so, if it's all over in the media, I think,

not very diffunded, to me say, is that I need to know why do they do. Sure, for what? For what? What do you want to get? And I say, well, it's that many times they're that the demonor he doesn't like the blood, but the

people don't know that the best element of the demonia is the canela or the garbanzas. That's those will be freneticous to the pincos. when I received attacks very strong of those entities what I put there were

where I was well where I lived there were some garbanzos that they put like a like a polvo

plato that when those frotabas andres they were much chispas but it was a

play pyrotechnic very common in Mexico and that I was because when I sentia

those presences very It was very much years, even when I was in the monastery

there's there in San Diego that with Ramon Sands me left me dabbas garbanzas garbanzs

so the demons of the abientas and there it's and there's for so to say

to say but but as it but as it there's there's there's there's just

there cult because no exists like no there manual no exist in

documents all and that and that's many other cults like

the other the people imagine you like I have

a in my cult in my process and and then

then then he and he he creates his proper temple

to his uses to his forms and and

if said so Josue Matt a an example

a guy a so I mat to a chivo, and if he he'd have a chivo, then I'd a kid,

but I'm at a little. Yeah, as well what, like, what happened with the,

with the narcosatannical like. Exactly. It's, is, is, is,

and grow in this energy. Of that you know, that's a energy

very very, but it can exist, no, no, there's

no, there's, there's something, is a something, is not going to

be a beneficial for the executant when, this arrebatas a

life because we have prohibited so the same cult of the demon

you I said years so it's invidio there there

there groups even here in Mexico and registrised for the

police I've been a much people fiat in the serreya

also there there is those investigations oh Joseph

figgate that I have access to images that who's not

in the periodical not. No, you're going to be in the graphic

in the universal this to what pertainse who who manage

these signos who does these markers no ah

well that cults but in Mexico no I was in

in IT no in groups carive no in Mexico okay okay

so but there but there there powerful that can be of

any indole that's important or bruchos. So, those are they're trying and they

are doing rituals. I, I was I saw, for example, one I went

to a ceremony that I had invited in the city of Mexico

with this this the, and this me was the name. It's

a political in this moment. Well, still still still being a

political very important. And when I I'm going to to give them

some ingredients for so say say I'm where do you know where do you

know we're in a place oh and who are who I mean I say

I'm saying I'm talking not but the chist is that I've done

that if there there were people that there's like there

there's like there can't you can't they're to bring

people to get to get people to get to Wow.

So that's that's so that's so it's so these are these these new

leaders or these neo-religiosos that at not never a preparation no know

nothing of philosophy or not have any a dogma religious more than his

proper serration mental to say no this is that at pinco

I do new To this Fidel Castro Rus is a governorate of Cuba

with Bavagas that I have conversed in that that that's that he

said that here the man is that he's a man a elephant for example

an elephant an elephant you saw you know you said you said the

political the human the being that more intents of

of assassinato has suffered? He suffered. Okay. And not they're so far. So,

no, he, because he had many bruchos sacerdotes to his around,

standing, you're doing protection. Travaging. Yeah, day and the night. Like in

Venezuela with Hugo Chavez, no, to get, a, a, a, a,

a, a, a, in the United that's the Cia that's me in that

moment there was Chavez or the or the Kishner in Panama

all they all they were all not a bacteria but it's like

it's a say it's a Cepa okay for for the agreement

the the only he he was he was Chaves Pus he said

he no he no he no he's he So it's But that's But that's

practice in Mexico O'Paco that's real and I think what's the most people like people

like people like like I'm like my people who's like we've about much

about about this what I'm what I say is very very delicate because

many times I'm investigating also doing this lab of

this labor of investigation I have seen some some cases that are

in internet where I see a pattern very repeated, both for

little and for people, and for people, and it's that the thing,

the people think that is the murder, but no, that is the consequence.

And we have been said, very many times because it's

a little about, here what he's in this type of ritual

is extend the life human in the sense to

cause the maximum suffering until that the person human

when the person when he's when he's said it's secret

certain substances the body so those substances are very

similar to the adrenaline is what is what is like the motor

is like the energy look that that is real and

that there is there there some from the

epicles romans in the Epocas of Christ, even where a people to get in this

toro and they put a fire for that the people sufferer and develop the adenochromo.

And, and it consider that this hormone this, is like a bio-stimulator that impede

the, how does it doesn't, it's an anti-evegecement. Anti-evegeciment. And, so,

if there, if there people that Compress, as like in a principle

the people was in the placenta for the Cululas mother, it's

40 years in my Chicago. Now, I'm there are laboratories like

Roche like this Boy, or so any of those most

in the people who they use that is that probably, in the world

in the world is they were in that you you, you're in that

you in that in that those laboratories in the placent you

because contain Cul Culas Mard And, well, in Mexico is provided to the venta

of organs and the tissues. Yeah, no can't. So, then all so it's all.

And so it's and it's here. There's, there, there, there's a, there

a, there's a factos. Okay, as part of the ritual? Yes, as part

of the elements. It's like an, imagineate a oya, where we

we, we're, we're, we're, we're a, that is very powerful

not is that it's that it's imagine it a campanita with a media that we

we're going to we're going to communicate with that energy not it's not a spirit

but with that it's like a enganga polen yeah but the

engangas it's it's it's a one one like one one

one one one person a spirit of a person a person a person

a common and corrient. These fundamentals are for energies very superiors for energies

that we considerate primigeneas that they originated, that God was created at the

time that he created the this system of things. And so between many others

he has two children. What thing? Or so for to be the point of

communication. For example you can get one type of a type of

yearba Siento, a type of forms of Bid, insectos, arrains, alacrana, pach, or, I don't see. And two kids. Of those, me, is a cald of what...

Yes, so. It's a process long, but those, those things are very, very carers, but they're doing. And yeah in

Mexico, there are many things that is that they're because, I think, they've been imported bruchos, ex-eros.

Those have tried. Those, yes, they're not. They, they're, and,

Because it's very curious, for example, I know many religiouses in Africa, very accoutalas, but in general, the capital is very rich. But there are sacerdotes practicants, very poweros,

without money. So, no, they're not percied. There are those sacerdotes that cruises America and, then, all the grandeza,

know, what they can do with the dinner and then then they're here, create a temple,

crean a new logia, and it's a new religion, but a new new cult.

It's a way to do a way to do and it's a secretism tremendous. Yes,

it's, it's more of those, it's of it's of it's of it. That

It's very brother I know I know I'm a anecdote

that I want to tell that we're that you

know because of a repent pass things the people

have experiences that has been with there there

there there probably you probably you know you

probably you is known as one of most

most who consists in to change the suerty,

the health, and the force of an animal for the of a

human. Or the of a person human for other person human.

When the medicine you have desausied, when there no there

option scientific is a ritual a very and also

quite and you're to be this experience and to the

I want to you as a person that practice all this, this point of view of

there. There's precisely the that's the story. Me, he says that this

past after 15 years. And he said that he was only with his mom

and his three brothers. His father unfortunately falle years

before and only he only lived with his mom and his three

brothers. Four. He said there was a time where in the

house is getting to moscas but so you literally

you're you're a lot of you're five and they're 15 so moscas

moscas moscas and like the health and my mom was deteriorating

she was a woman in that was a 25 years uh

and it was not was very young but all the time

took the time was the question is that with his Suegra. The Suegra

never she said. All the time, the soba all the time, he gave

to understand that was a little thing for my papa. So the mother was the enemy

the enemy and the and the mother, and the mother, that would be the

mother, she'd always, she said, this visabuela all the time

was still all the time was inferma, that was interna that they were going to operate of

something. And when fallece my papa, I said, my abuela, the daughter

of my mom, he lands like a man, my mom said, my mom,

they say, me the time, and they don't know, and they are passing the time

of the moscas, and the health, says, of my mom, it's

to be to be a toss, a to a toce, a to, and it starts

to get to get to make the ojeras, I'm to have a

petaliers literally they're like 20 years like over a rugas and even

he's a lot of and he's and a day we we're talking all the family of

my mom and we we're we're we're we're to talk to talk

of stories paranormal is something that's something in Mexico that's in this

my mom told something that never us never was never

She she began to say that she's a a

biggerita a bigita like a little a chaperrita

that had like robes like a monja but that had

like a be a and that the rostro was a

very very feos a a rostro he said in the

she she he was going going the cell and

in the cell we we we I was going to the

scale and they're in the space and she does a little

that this little that's a little form of a chaperrita came after she

and when she enter in panic and when she want to like that

she and that's and that all the family all the family

she kept call and and result that he's

that one of my other I had And it passed. We went to the

house, like there was like the talking of these things, like the put much attention in all,

and said, we got into my mom, I'm in his other room, in other abitation. And say, yeah we've got

got to get it. He said to do you get to the court of my mom, I'm pretty the light and

I've been in the piece. What happened? Mama, you said, and my to talk, even

the air to do it. What happened? After of a little

and he he's to get a little and she like a person she can't

to the under, and the camera sunder. And she automatically no can't

move. And like it's in your spalda and it's when she when she

grita and he's to get to the camera. And in this moment

happened something that people don't to say, when I

my mom and I'm my mom and I see with the light and I turn to and I'm going to

outside to the front of the front of our house there's there's a big

of roble and there was I was in a ram sentada or so like I'm

like I'm I'm I'm I'm just I'm imagining and observing observing

like still like just playing the my mom it's she, it's she's she. The of my

dreams is she and says and all they're going to the first what they're doing is mentarle

his mother or literally is typical no grosserias no, what I'm what that's

and there was and he was not she said I said I in that in this

then in my carter cargabed a oration that also many many they're

to remember the magnific I'm I'm I'm I'm Bible, and that

thing, there. And, it's immutable, like, so, and so, retando. Retando.

In that moment, the only that I, like, I, as the major, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, and they, they're, they're, and we're we're all

we, and we know, we're all right, I'm, I'm, and there was still, like,

I'm, I'm, and me said, here I'm here I'm going to we're going to we're going to

when we're yeah for the house that we're going to we're in the sky like they're like they're like they're

and they're behind of them to them we're back to a house to my house of my and we're

we're doing my mom my mom could get with much fear but but an

an armana my mom and you have to with a person that's a little bit of that's

something. That's not normal. They're like a person, a curandera. And since that I've

the curandera he says, oh, you're they're trying but they're doing a job

of those that's that they're they're trying to want to want to let's, just just

just that just it's that is that's it's that is that it's it's it

he's he's he starts and he says, I want to know who is? It's your

suitor. Ah. He says, and you know, and says, you know, he says, he wants,

but not only only that you, that you go and yeah, all that that you not have

you, that's passing to a person. But I, I know, I don't know, the bruce

says, but no, says, no, it's for her. I, see other person,

but I know who is, and rapid, this person that person who sent the call out of

my ex-abweller see a woman more more great of age. And that's more

young, yeah. And curiously, they've seen re-juvenecida sana, being, being a

ex-abweil and that all the time was internated and they had been been seen. And the

poor is that he said the woman that they are letting the is that in my house

there is a entity and they have seen all my my kids, the I mean I

and this woman says that she said the she said he said and he said to

I'm to be a honest I don't I can with that I can't do that

is something that I do what I know but we can't try that that

that was mandated we can talk and and see how we can

we literally subornar her give more than what

they offered And it has to do you know, you don't matter. He says, well, I'm going to

have to do you. The curandera is to the house and he says that when enter the

room, because he was going to invoke, no, it was not necessary. At the

opening the the entity was on the room of the house of the she was

there. He's there. Entra and the the senior, then the

question, and the dialogue. What you want? And he says exactly what she yeah said. Me envied. For this person, I'm going to kill and everything. And he

says, what do you? How can't I'm, how can't I do something? But here is something very strange in this story. Because the person no me wants to say, and

really, it's respect, I mean, says that they've got to convince to the entity they're they're sobornar

but no me they're not they're not they're not saying in any moment

I'm okay well I'm revert to my comment okay says

that the entity literally disappear like for art of magic the

health of the other again the the of the the mom

back up and the the of the the visabuela to

where to where unfortunately for the the sueger her mother or the

ex-abweller a a second a a time to die and the shebara

and the shebara and he reclama you I'm going to another form

that I said I said but but what what what

what so the how culminate this story me

my call the attention because they're what they're doing is they're they're they're they're in

the house and they're and they're and they're they're not no matter they're not even

what they did you know what they're with the ex-aul but what I

asked and if no me they said and me did is

with what suborned to that now now now

now so now you you have done you

really really really I could recreate in in my

because, I'm also I've been very present in those cases. Fiatte that

this type of work is very common. I'm to let's

talk about to be incommendar to emmendar to or let us

do that that's that's that's that's that's more more

level artos more more level art and what is in

effect so it's to demand a a person

to per adjudicke to that you frie, to rebe the energy, the health. At final,

the promise that always generally one does these spirits mundanus is, that they

will they want to live. And the primacy, a through the work a

or a other fundamental that's that's based on the cults to the

murder, is that capacity or the possibility of the He's a through the

practicant what he not he's not used to do in life but there

many spirits that is and they're with the intention to you're

because maybe suppose that in that in this instant Paco

in where the the person that they're they're

going to get to and they're that is possible so

so that can they can't imagine that let

that spirit that's that's a create to create a cause in a cause in

a cause in his life exactly cause in your or that you can

hear the for that he's for example, so that's these entities

those spirits suppondrian that in the instant in that the spirit of this

person is dispreend so so so he's out of

because his car because his ingressen to to be able to okay

so like a zombie well at the final the person that's it's normal

but say oh yeah after this accident that's someone he says he says

he says different he comes different because that's that's that's

that's that is that is one that is I know I know I know to me

in the mind two very very very very this Paco

one in effect is this was this was a a

religious, a woman Pentecostal that gave much the doctrine

Christian and she metia to the bars and it went to the bars

to media to predicate to to take to the women gallants and the

she was they were they was they passed of everything his

children were the first he was that one

of the bruchos that he worked to the people of the barres

well he started but he they had not they could make make a brogeria no

not they not they not not they resulta because so they they were

they were they're their kids one after to start studying of the

of the of the of the yeah the the owner of the with his

brucos because in Tijuana there in Tijuana there is that this

this she know this this maned I don't know, that he'll protect and that, look, here's it. If I did in her, the goal, I,

oh, and again again, here's here. Oh, if she said, wow. The woman had that capacity, and I was so that

was with your firm faith in Christ, no, in Jesus, of, to be, to start saying,

well, well, they're doing and, but that brogheria and that brogheria call in his children,

his own his, well, call in the vices, your also, not cae in

the vix, but he's to start the reason, He said that be he'd a

entity in the night and the night. And the woman was quite

well. He had another son. I was to enter in this child.

She says that one day regressando to predicate there for the zone

of the playas in Tijuana that is a zone this is a area semi-urban

poverty this Well, the Chistee is that He said Yeah, I'm My son Yeah not

He was My TV Because for For I'm Onar in the Pied to And I'm And I'm

My God And I'm And I'm And I'm To get to And I'm To get to He's out of

He said He said He had He said That he said That he She said She was,

He was a Bruch, with a Bruch, with A man He was He was a He said, And she

And she And she He said, I I don't want to mordered, and my quixas no serrable. It's very powerful and that the Sanger of Christ, it's reprenda, and

never put with him, but he also never could with me. But she's with my kids, and about this child. She relata in specific, Paco, that she's all to look to his son. There's, I'm going

looking, so, the sub-subidas in that zone. There are many casitas so, of maddera, many people, like those tires, with a lot of yant. It's a lot of

complex. He said, I saw my with the little light of the lunar that was a luna that was a

little down of that the arbor it was I was I was I said

I was I was I was that my my my he manote

with when I when I go when I'm going to more I'm

saying he's talking with someone that's I remember because you You say, is a person little,

because here the same occurred. It was a man who was a man, he's a man,

he was up, and he was up a little in this arbor, and he had to

he'd and he had to my son on his shoulder, in his coel

and he had made maromas in the air, and my he was, he was,

like, well, very drogated. When me I'm, I go, the name

the name of Chris, you know they have their pluggaries to to put

to get things to work to get a a lot to be so I'm so I'm

that's a little that's an man who was in the head of my kid

he's there he's he he wow and then so I

see how my he's to be like he's he's enano

he's he's he's he's he he's he he's

he he's you standas looking and my he's my little bit of

there's a well, there's the part that's that I'm that I'm really reflect how act on those

spirits that's real that's real although the people don't create well the thing a

through much oration and well I know a process now is a pastor of the

church the church the church so exists the church a that he's dedicated,

to rescat a young that are in the garras of the vices. So, this

his son, now is pastor. Yeah, he's pastor. He was his liberation. It was his liberation.

This, and I'll comment because it was a spirit materialized in an

enano. That's very. Another case of brugheria because there's to have to

have to take to the things. Although I have a theory of why, of a person that not is initiated,

it is to say that has been in a process of preparation and someone to say, perfect, here is that,

you're you know, you know, you know, you know, all the other is practice,

practica, is force, you learn, you know, and there's there's ceremonies for those that a

practicante like you have passed. One, two, three, many, but there

people that that's a realo or chisero literally a me

me said myses is that I know that I'm that I'm that in my lives

past I know I was I I'm and I made

I've done this and I do what I'm and I said in your

book I've I've written much books about Brugheria.

Well, there was a case of a see how the she was a woman

was in a relation extramarital with a doctor cardiologist and he was

the doctor was he was an assistant for so he was the doctor the doctor

the doctor had had had And she, this, he was, well, insistent,

not in a relation with the doctor, ta, and then, but she, but she, but she no, she knew,

and she said, no, but at all hour resale to the demonio and offersele that's and he,

and things, so, of that type, no? Well, well, she's and she

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Price excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery. The point is that it's felt so complicated that he said, for me? No is for nobody. So imagineate Paco I'm going to do this

an invocation and they present to another entity demoniac and say he oh yeah this

funeralment to tell me see you and fliegatoll because you don't you say

no it's for me for nobody well that's the case for her

I'm I'm I'm not I'm maybe maybe so much time

so much time in this sure this this doctor this

of be a syrujano very prestigious and prestigious and prestigious with

a man with family with a much level and it begins to decaire

the vices and the alcohol and it refers that

a one a day he has to have much attention with

the our proper spirituality is a manner that has to

communicate with us to make things. So, we have to put attention in the

dreams. This he said he was he's a doctor he's in a

long, in a a mess long, this large, and he a cup

of wine and he was of those process in where he had recalive in a process

of an alcoholics anonimus he he's, he's, he's saying,

he may there the cupa and he says that below of his mess

sale a enano he said see that see that he's he said

he came in the mess and he was doing not me about but me

I'm a cup a cup a cup a car he's he

he's he he he he got he he he was

and he he he said a part of there

a part of there no I I was to know of me.

Passed seven years. I mean, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, and it was

a homeless, yeah, I was, yeah, all the seven years, I, I had to

get that that's a same enano with impulsing in the cup. Obligandolo.

Dicientle to say. He, he, no, he, he, no,

he, Demonio, no to talk, no emite voice, and just he was just he

was in the cop the type Calis, and it was when in that moment I got to

the cup and he's a vacue to him. He he started to to give many turns,

no, not emitting to do get much a lot of so I'm, I'm going, I'm

I'm just so I'm, I'm, and I'm what's what I'm, that's, and it's

now, it's now, it's over, it's in your testimony, that I don't

I'm what past those seven years. What means? The work

of the workeria of those yarmament or those endregas spirituales that are

reales so you you're so you're so, not for what that's only two

cases that are that are to us allow the alcases of the chisery

look to be to be to be never I've never in the more

of 270 episodes I've told experiences mys but there a person that has

lived things very and that she has represented in dreams my my

wife she she has the don to perceive what what

is going about by my dreams and this what I

say is very very very serious for me and I pido much respect to the audience

because it's something that's a little in a process when we're recently castes. I've told experiences that me have passed

to me, that we've lived together and is that we have done a me has done a much times.

So, because not they like a many bruchos what I know and what I do. So,

but here I'm here I'm going to glory but, but I'm sorry, I'm here. And this

what happened was before I was to be a podcast and you go to do you know, I don't

see if you've been, a, a, a elf who is very famous of Dobby of Harry Potter.

One, very very similar to, for example, a other entity that's

in the film of the The Lord of the Anillos. These are so

like, delgitito, chaparito, so, with the extremities large, narizones and feos.

This that I'm going to tell, fifted, you, like a person practicante of the

time, I want to know your opinion. There was a person that confirmed, and it

has confirmed, no, he's done us both. This person has been a lot, it's been

a lot that's, and I don't practice brujia, but I'm However, I know

certain aspects. But I am very of the idea of that there's a justice divina and

there's a rebutt but I'm that I'm I'm not. I don't do it. I don't

go to the other side, I'm sure to get a line, although is very difficult

many times because when no, that you know, that God say, but when they're

doing, or when they're when they talk on someone of the you,

if you you're of all. I mean, I'm going to get. But, but,

but, but I'm going to get to the cooey, and I can't say, no.

I mean, is, is, it's said, to manage this type of ira that's much

courage, to say, Oye, you're you're doing something, I've never,

me meted with this and the other, but, however, we've maintained

that, but when, when we're when we're we're just we're we're to have

something, something, I think, no, probably when you're to know a person that maybe no maybe me

I'm equivoke but in my case if it was, but it was very strange because it was in the time

and the people to record that anecdote when in a paralysis of a so I'm both

we've been a man and this man is and this he wants to give a bit of

the and the little and the he's like and she she was and she

was where she and I know also. Well, it was in that time to

put in a context to the people. When the things were just very

critical, she had a lot of a time, we're doing, we're in the

camera, open the eyes, and be an arbor, see a we're that we're at

the feet of a house, but accosted in the camera, something, and be how they're

going to how they're on the arbor in the camera and how

there are in cards like to talk about she she's because I said

I'm if I'm and I'm didn't say up in an arbor

in the river in a ram there had a other like the I mentioned

in a principle so type Wolf that I had had had various

cards of Tarot and they was but was like

evocating was talking was about saying I didn't I

didn't when he's he does he does he's paniquea like you

my you're doing me you're so I know I'm so I'm so I'm

so I and he yeah he starts to move the head because he he's like me

me he's being me he's being so with so much fear and he

he makes that he was a last and he she be

going to the card like the camera and it was

the and it's the amants and he he's he's disappears it's a

time where we've got many this and this and the other but you consideras

I mean we know we're we've there's and this and you think you

what was the function it's like if they're they've been

literally to to to to fractur to to that's

that is that is that we're we let's the

manner in that our spirit has to communicate us a message that's

being in this other plan and the information that is the same that's radicke in our in our mind is if we're going to we're going to see if we're

referring as in this case the the barrajas of tarot in the environment then we're doing that has to

hear from the side esoteric so if you're sending information referent in what you know For so, for example, the

Cegos of Nacimient, what they're what they're sullen are son-ins. It's what you know, his, no, his, his Cerebr. And the

spirit will use the information that you have to give you a message. The fact of that has materialized that energy surely was to confirm what you were to

what they were suspecting. And, in effect to say it's something esoteric is a thing of brughery

what is intervinging in us the last the last card the arcano of the

parja well imagine you should be saying indicating the union

the creation the the the center of something but

certainly yeah it was his his own his own his own his

was the help of others. Recordemus that the fact that we're going to say that

not said that's in a lot of those. Sure. So, you can have a

quadro spiritual that you resguarded that you not you not is able to

perceive it but they are they're they're they're and those who

are the questions spirituales. In Mexico there's practice much

burghry to really the people to recurre to because

then they're another other another to frag to

to someone. So, in serious. So, when one the intervention to a spirituality, see what

here, something to explain, the burglary Mexican is echiceria. Is that is the

application of techniques of the chemistry, let me see to count that is a

alchemist. Yes. It's what We need to create an effect We need to We do this With these elements

Animals Yerbaes Territura Andrega FAS And be reflected The intention Yes

Is a Achecero But there is But there Other Practicants Like I That we

We have We We have Invocation That Chalam Entities Spituales

To let us Pidimps Your Intervention So the elements

that they do not is to do it's for a work as a

but for a offer for a offer this not not is

not not condition to because we don't just

just just just nothing to tell so I'm

so so wellasas he came to let me start you start to you

start to start you and the entity Well, as always has received your attention

your generally. But also also the same as the same like he a leonies that in a

moment you can't you can't try to you can say abertamently that you you can

be in a risk of that these entities that are in some moment they can attack?

Yes, sure. Yes, and how you feel? And how you feel? Anya,

as to me platicaes of the engangas know that the function of the murder is

fregartte and that what he is robartes the life to the

same that he and so he can say any that's the

name no no no those imitators because you you're

because you make so much in the literature that he starts to

change a change to change their form to try to emular

a a sacerdote that no. So you just say, oh, no. It's like the cult of the Santa

Morty, no. No, there's also a talk about a lot of a little

to do you a post-roha for the love that maraud for the pernation. Imagineate

there's these Sontas Mordas embassated as as far as you

have been about here abertamente and with all respect but it's a cult abirto

to what whatever he has met situations of Yoruba have I've meted situations

of palo, they've met him to do, it's a mess with a mess with,

the santa is, the entity of you, I do, all the thing that they're

in elements is that, and I know, a person expert like you that years,

you know I've investigated, I know, but of a repent, if it's good

to mention this, but to be, but a example, just for just for that you

can be how you have been so I'm impaped, because I have been the

maximums leaders. And I know that's what I don't know that they've got, but they've had seen communication with that in

spirituality, Paco. Okay. So, because here not it's that you're that you do you

special, but if there's in you something that makes that that energy so I look at the

eyes. I've that connect with the person. Yeah. Ajole someone. But of

some way, the tub or has, or no, coincidio for that sent it to listen to you. I mean, for example, dentro of the temple

of the Santa Morte International with Enrique Vargas and there you can be I've got to postia on my Instagram

Photographies because I've got Santes Boucho for TV Azteca with her and

she was part of the Concilio Grimorio has like 15 years well I gave

to be I get to see to see a how she was about with that in a libretta

so, look, dura, of the so how you speak, the so how do you

because he came to the water, because she she was upia water

arduent and things so, but it was a libretta common and

wastable with she was that she had that for

that she did so with the with the Santa Mort.

Yes, to her I said because the people, well, no, I know

if they're a function like, but you enter to the temple and this, you know,

the image more of the world, and at there's a capilla that was

the commander Padreino in Dock. Okay. And there there's a murder, but it's

an us amending human, real. And, and above there's a lot to be

a man to come me said, no, don't talk, no, I, for respect, I never

I quit the tela but there Riquetta Vargas separated and I said my mother and I'm

my mother and I'm because funanito of that blah blah blah and he said that was that you're in

that you're that you two two two and so oh and then

I'm oh I'm what I what's what's what's that's what you

that's so easy easy, you're going to get us and they're going to maybe

15 days 20 days but not because that that's the time I'm to make me to come back

to get to get a get to get a we've got to we've got to we're to have

to grab the production so well could have passed three days or all the day

or the next no one one one seeate we

we're we're we're to sanctuary of Chalma, because we consider us that is the sanctuary of the demonio in Mexico. The sanctuary of Chalma is

the demon. Yes. There is there a cult to Osteoteot, the Lord of the Caverns, or the demonio. If you've visited and you're going to tell you're going to be the only church in America, that has the demon, the demonio, in the church. Of course, Camino to Chalma, the

peregrinos, this is always I've mentioned. The form in the they get always they top with bruchas there are

a lot of things in the way a chalma yeah because well

here there is an explanation much much much more

but Chalma that there is the place is the entry

a infamund that exists a document from from

before pre-ispanic is one of the four points of the

coautecatel or the oscelotecatel is that is Sacredote Guerrero Mexicas and

there were in that in this place there were in 40 days and 40

nights for that the year that the ability to be

in the obscurid and the transmutation or so

the guerrero Mexicas for example the Kuat Kattel

that is the senior Agila has the ability to

have the there are the there are the there are some

things that's documented in that moment because probably the cause of, well, the proper Dominicos and the Augustinus

when they're going to get those tears and see the quantity of sacrifices and of the hechiseria that was

doing there, well, to them, well, to them, it's abominable, no? So,

mann't to make a a retable enormous that's in the sanctuary of Chalma where is

satanas, no, there receiving the adoration. It's incredible. Well, one one,

we went to to do a recorritory and were various leaders of cults here in

Mexico. I, I, I, I was convoyed in the concili

Grimoy, blah, blah. Well, well, we went to, we're going to Chalma,

but we passed to the laguna of the Sempua. It's a grand

lag, in a middle of a mountain very tenebroso, really is,

I do much. I mean, I'm how Enriket Vargas had a life

with various santa mortes more of the which me me

and that a sometimes obsequio to my audience, to my followers,

because a me consta. So, and not I have to assure because in

my experience of many years of the time of my life,

I've seen things that not are natural naturales, not are

normal. Only they will be to create someone who practice and that's that's

that's that I'm if I'm so I'm let me explain. Well, I

saw a unriket Vargas and he's some in the water and put

to the Murtes and no they were they're they're they're in plastic

or made as but they were in the water in

the water. Has to count that's like if you have put

a paco like a but it's not a but that's I'm not I'm

like you're like they're pieces of ahedres the ring the peon here and my my mother

I you'll I'm and he started his plegaria in Spanish I was

I read and I recoged one of those orations recoged various of those

orations that is that in that soon I'm that probably I'm

Because they were very powerful. That's that they were a bit about the question. The question

important. Much of many people to be and this no I do you. Much

people say that the Santa Muerta no is no not a

not a that's more an entity malignant a demon a demonio is

a demonio for me the Santa Morte is a demonio is

the demonio is a form of manifesters of the demon so it's wow

so it's that relatively pardon for that for that the people in my last

book that's and I'm so much many ways to enter in contact with satan without

suffering no this I think you have you have been since

so much in so so that that is that is for that we know

the demon is that will appear to come a rojo. So trinchero? No,

a trinch, ah, no? You can be doing adoration to an spirituality, to a, a,

a, a, a, a, a, a, a, that is the same demon, no?

You can be talking with a demon, a man, a man, a person,

because, look, the demon, you know, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, there are, there are other demons,

even, even there, spirits, no, desencarned that, at the system

of things as to when they're in the followers of Satanas and are

those who they induce to do the vizio or so the thing

is fregart the life so that's that is his

function is it's because was created so because

so so I don't I have much experience

to not about about about about but the

perugia so we need to we're in the sense of not

practice something that you don't you need but

you think it's because we don't the impatience

pacient the people want the things always always

are looking solutions this time as when the

same the same says that says that solutions

are being are permanent that's what and what that's

because much people were, and I'm going to say the word, if they're

saying, no, I'm I'm going the light, but you,

you know, you know. It's precisely we need the concepts. It's that maybe

as individuals. Or, let's, remember that the cult to whatever divinity

not is a buffet. And many leaders have created the cult like a buffet

in where you put in what you do you put in what you get to get more adeptus and I've

been seen so by images that they've seen temple where they have a satanaz

and they have a a murder and they imagine you know many of

those of the leaders famous that are in Mexico now are

in the car the the leader this well no he

put to the person to imagine you see there

there There are many. There are many. I'm not going to mention a number. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know. Nobody is the realean. I mean, I don't know. But, there's to understand the because of the things.

Exactly. The why. The why of the cause is, oh, yes. This, a more, you know,

to do you, but we don't know the new principle. Exactly. So, so your

medicine is, this, and the Mia B, but they have the same substance

active. For that's that we're that's that's that's not, but there

people that's to create temple and to create their their own rituals,

for that that energy they're they're that's that we have already

we've people people who people who look to some form

yeah and being it being a lot more like

a second pacco a day and night a body and

a your work religious not it's not a mal,

that they're not in what it's that I'm think that the

people they're they're they're they're so I'm know I

know I'm Bautel Percind how says bendic pistols

for example and this this you cost five and she said

Josue but I don't give $5,000 because me those

there's because there are many of These are these who are primed delinquents, or if a friend of a crime, he'll get a pistol and, and they're going to get into,

I'm going to get a lot of and then they're, and they're in the badition of the Santa Morty, no, they enter in the business. Or so, they need to bless you.

Ah, yeah, it's part of a ritual. No, man. Yes, so, so, so, I'm saying, I, for this, I'll put, I'll put a price

alto, for that people say, well, no, no, no. But, you say, but the grand majority consige. And then, me,

There is another leader that's in the For sequester And not because he sequestrava But because He received this

Transferences and this of things illicit So the investigation was rebotable The

he caused a Newarka that also He also he made the first registro for the

Secretariat of the Foreign Exteriors here in Mexico of the subsecretaries of the

Associations religious Paco, the first register of a church dedicated to the Santa

Morty. Here in Mexico. Here in Mexico. The Santa Morte

Mexico-American. Okay. So, there are requisites for a place of a legal,

the law obliga to a place to, well, he'll do all the solicit

and Newark, but right right, but right is in the carcel,

yes. There's many no, no, you know, you know, you know, that's the little bit? You know, no, no, God, me, no. How do you, no? How do you think, no? We don't know in the evasurer. So, they fell to the revision. No, put it like,

this, yeah, scondering. And, well, discoverer, and as, there was such a lot of pressure, this, because of what, obviously, of what panteon, they've got to. Oh, inventes. So, so. How strong is to talk of this theme. As I said. I go,

as we mentioned in a principle, the brugheria is more to imagine to imagine us

a merlin or a grueh, I'm doing, I mean, so it's really, it's quite

impression. I talked about you, I was to start this gravation. How I see this

work of the history that all the time I don't know of my family how for a person that not

is a used to live it many times is a shock of emotions because you know

you don't you know you know you know you're in you're doing how it's materializing

something it's impressive I'm thank you thank you thank you for accept the invitation

your experience your your experiences for the people for the people who

can't you can't remember your social you can visit me in Instagram

it's called Casa Grimorio or send me my carerimori

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to my books. There are many there's like two years. Paco de

there's a domino public and they're they're and so all the remedies

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things bad as to make to make better to do your money

your money because we don't implement the thing of

that's what you to do you refer to how to

how to do that that that exists. That's what? Content exclusive.

For all the people that is going to this, there's a second part with Josue, there

where you're going to talk about when me did you, for the people, so I'm going to put in just

that just. Personas, carn, tamales, children, so, that's of what Joshua

us will talk about, something something where here not here where we don't know,

very certainly for this moment yeah is being many episodes for that when

yeah is available you can't because of it's really super interesting what all the people

that have been us have been us have parted because it's the where you can't

talk about you can't this detail so Jose again thank you thank you thanks to

your audience for the invitation for the invitation family thanks to you know to get to

your calaveritas because so I see you get to get and I also can't

know who they're going and then I'm going to you also I'm going to you're going to you know

you're like the podcast there's there's a button that says you're doing and that's going to be

getting quite thank you my name is Pacorea and we see we're going to the new episode

until the next the next the next bye bye