EXTRA ANORMAL - El Sacerdote Que Pacto Con Lucifer | El lado oscuro del catolisismo

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

En este episodio descubrirás los relatos más perturbadores relacionados con lo sagrado y lo prohibido: imágenes religiosas que parecen moverse como si fueran milagros o fenómenos paranormales, pac...tos de sacerdotes con el diablo para ascender en poder, rituales ocultos en iglesias de San Juan Chamula con ofrendas de animales, y ofrendas que involucran vidas inocentes.⛪ Un sacerdote en CDMX que habría pactado con el diablo 👹 para ascender a obispo, con ofrendas prohibidas y rituales blasfemos.La inquietante relación de sacerdotes con brujos, y ofrendas activadas tras emociones fuertes para manipular la fe y el dinero.Maldiciones antiguas lanzadas por brujas capaces de desatar tragedias cada vez que se mencionan.📖 Una invocación prohibida a Belcebú que terminó en posesión demoníaca con la revelación de doce espíritus oscuros.🕯️ El alma de un niño atrapada en una iglesia, pidiendo oración para alcanzar descanso eterno.⚔️ Testimonios de, discriminación y amenazas dentro del seminario, donde lo sagrado se mezcla con lo humano más cruel.Un recorrido aterrador por historias de pactos, exorcismos, maldiciones y secretos que desafían la frontera entre lo divino y lo infernal ✝️.recuerden aquí abajo dejo el enlace a la página web con contenido súper fuerte no apto para todos https://podcastextraanormal.com.mx/

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Starting point is 00:02:02 a person who was in the great institutions, even in the Vatican and that I'm sure
Starting point is 00:02:09 that you will tell things that that will to healer the blood. Well,
Starting point is 00:02:14 welcome you. What a lot of How What are people Beemned to this episode of podcast Extraanormal
Starting point is 00:02:50 My name is Pacoarias and I'm happy to be happy to be again with all you guys. Today me accompany
Starting point is 00:02:56 a person for first a person that makes a much that's a good for and that I'm
Starting point is 00:03:02 sure that we will impact us and we to start with all what we to talk about because this
Starting point is 00:03:07 episode not is for us for us all right to us about us Osvaldo
Starting point is 00:03:12 Tores how you know thank thank you thank you thank you in your
Starting point is 00:03:16 space here in your in your place and I hope that
Starting point is 00:03:20 the people that people, I'm with a mind open
Starting point is 00:03:24 and disposed to hear a question a reality that is a
Starting point is 00:03:31 every day and that is a more present in those
Starting point is 00:03:34 times. As he he mentioned Osval is an
Starting point is 00:03:39 episode is a very can get to be very controversial
Starting point is 00:03:43 we have about the stories of Palom Yombe
Starting point is 00:03:46 stories of the santa the Boudoo Brug Brugier
Starting point is 00:03:49 and we have told stories of but specifically
Starting point is 00:03:54 in this episode are relato synestros in the Catholicism this episode not is
Starting point is 00:04:03 for any this observation in any moment we want to respect to the religion much
Starting point is 00:04:09 less to God so so as as the invitation to see
Starting point is 00:04:14 it's very well quite quite quite a part
Starting point is 00:04:18 because there things very Firtes that is that are in
Starting point is 00:04:22 the partroquia every church, every cathedral before to start
Starting point is 00:04:28 Osvaldo I know that probably some people you know for the people that
Starting point is 00:04:33 you see for first who you are what you
Starting point is 00:04:36 do you do you do you do you my name, as I am you know in the
Starting point is 00:04:43 seminary to say I'm I'm I'm I'm a three years
Starting point is 00:04:47 to order me a sacerdote. And in this, in this caminor, in the seminar, me mandarin to study to Rome. I studied to monology in Rome.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Three years. Salgo of the seminary, and I studied the career of sciences of the communication. Dentro of the seminary, philosophy, and the middle of the theology. No, I'm not terminated the theology, but
Starting point is 00:05:11 if properly what is the philosophy, no? I'm also, not is avalada for the Cep, but if is avowed for the
Starting point is 00:05:18 church in the career of demonology that congeva also the rito the exorcism. Today
Starting point is 00:05:25 I'm co-conductor of the podcast invited to the un-known where we got
Starting point is 00:05:32 we're to do a much of the demons the the way actu
Starting point is 00:05:38 on the times of possessions things that are in the
Starting point is 00:05:41 church so this project they can find in all
Starting point is 00:05:44 the platforms And it's very interesting, I think I, and I'll explain why, because we'll talk about, things that maybe not all the people if ever try to talk to us, for fear to, what tell if I invoked something?
Starting point is 00:06:01 What does, if the demon's, we're going to be present? We've been told with various people that have opened the panorama in this time. Well, it's a thing very ample, a time, of this side, we're very accustomed to hear stories of demonia, entities malignas, spectros,
Starting point is 00:06:17 spirits, in general. And family, I want to say something. Osvaldo us will be a lot of some stories very fertes,
Starting point is 00:06:24 but there's a realato in special that a new our page web, that is triple www.
Starting point is 00:06:31 podcast www.com .com.m. Because what Osvaldo a grand Falsdo, in hand us
Starting point is 00:06:37 spoiler, what is what you're going to tell there? It's a case of a
Starting point is 00:06:41 sacerdote that desvive a muchachio in plen relation sexual. Well, well, he took
Starting point is 00:06:50 to censor that's so, so for favor, I'll invite us on this episode,
Starting point is 00:06:54 also us come back on our website and also remember
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Starting point is 00:07:23 we're new episodes. My dear Osvaldo there there there's there a
Starting point is 00:07:27 phrase that we're we're we're that the people and that the people
Starting point is 00:07:33 one of the one of the places with more cargo energetic pesada are the
Starting point is 00:07:39 churches. Ninios Videntes and persons with dones like the clairividencia the mediannida
Starting point is 00:07:45 and a lot of things spiritual us they're to enter to an
Starting point is 00:07:52 church not always oho no always you know you always you can't
Starting point is 00:07:58 find a God you you can't top with something
Starting point is 00:08:03 is light. You consider is that this is certain? That's true.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Fygette that from the point of view of ecclesiastic
Starting point is 00:08:12 the churches are an point energetic very important
Starting point is 00:08:16 because there are and they are they work and
Starting point is 00:08:20 there but there many many churches that behind
Starting point is 00:08:25 behind behind they don't quarters offices of exorcism
Starting point is 00:08:30 no the proper people with some energy has that that's the
Starting point is 00:08:35 place is a a cumul of a mal energy. And that many
Starting point is 00:08:39 churches have many churches have that also. We have a point important
Starting point is 00:08:44 of energy accumulated in this in this sense if this is really,
Starting point is 00:08:51 if this happens and it's something that's a very curious and it
Starting point is 00:08:57 does to the people that sometimes not that is
Starting point is 00:09:00 or it pass to the people that he came to
Starting point is 00:09:04 get a casual and that's a very shortito the
Starting point is 00:09:08 the Saturday that I'm in a parroki I'm said the
Starting point is 00:09:11 Christ he moved the man and that that
Starting point is 00:09:14 she never in the church and then you you
Starting point is 00:09:18 think because this to the people that and to we
Starting point is 00:09:22 don't we don't many times or never has
Starting point is 00:09:26 never has something I I said for to many
Starting point is 00:09:31 the way that an image move the man, move to
Starting point is 00:09:35 move to the eyes, it's an act miracle for others.
Starting point is 00:09:41 It's an act totally sinister. For you what you that's that's
Starting point is 00:09:46 there two. In Sakateka I've had the opportunity to study
Starting point is 00:09:50 the case of a San Juan Stadeo that had had
Starting point is 00:09:52 had had the light of what there there a
Starting point is 00:09:58 ritual of a Magia Negra. Okay. So, no,
Starting point is 00:10:00 it was a little, no? If it was a miracle of some entity, demoniac,
Starting point is 00:10:08 or of another entity, no? I can assure that there's two. If it's divino
Starting point is 00:10:14 and if is malign, they're the same function, to do make to confunding
Starting point is 00:10:20 to the people. Much people who he's got to do you, he said
Starting point is 00:10:24 he did many, he did it was the question, and you I always I've
Starting point is 00:10:28 said, the demonios also can't do you can't do
Starting point is 00:10:32 do you and it is very commonly when the people they say
Starting point is 00:10:39 I'm I'm to be to robar and I don't want
Starting point is 00:10:44 to get me with a circle special of people
Starting point is 00:10:46 but so many they they do things and
Starting point is 00:10:50 they think they they they think they they they
Starting point is 00:10:58 more miracleos than the propos than the most rapid it's more effective to give to
Starting point is 00:11:03 a demonio that a a man chasadeo that a even even a a virgin
Starting point is 00:11:10 of God or a God so you you they contested immediately but
Starting point is 00:11:15 nobody you say the letter chiquita of the contract because they
Starting point is 00:11:19 they're so that's that's that's so is certain that
Starting point is 00:11:23 there there there I'm about with a person that
Starting point is 00:11:27 He said, Oye, I'm confused. I'm going to, why? What's what? Is that they're
Starting point is 00:11:34 a, a, a, a family very very far. And, and we
Starting point is 00:11:38 know they were, we're going to go and they're going to in pedacitos. And is that I'm
Starting point is 00:11:45 to say, I'm disappointed, I'm I've got to pay to the diablo.
Starting point is 00:11:51 How, he said, no, I've to pay in this moment, to the
Starting point is 00:11:54 devil. And you're going to solter. But how I don't know, they're going to let's doltar?
Starting point is 00:12:01 At the last we're the vehicle and other things that they were going to do. Because no
Starting point is 00:12:07 they're going to get the quantity. And now it's a sense because I feel that this type of
Starting point is 00:12:14 entities of low vibration, of astral or how they they want to say
Starting point is 00:12:18 demoniacos are the order of day. They're there. They're waiting,
Starting point is 00:12:22 to that someone literally to be because that's are caballieros. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Or, yeah, never will enter in your life when you don't want you
Starting point is 00:12:32 want to be so they're that's that's that's enter, but that you do
Starting point is 00:12:39 do you do not that they're doing, they're they're they're that's
Starting point is 00:12:44 that's that's that's but that you're you're when you know,
Starting point is 00:12:50 and as they're they're in form impression and they they curing to cure
Starting point is 00:12:54 of a B. chishida, they can't to the carcel but
Starting point is 00:12:59 almost in these cases, for not to say all, it's like it's
Starting point is 00:13:05 like it's like it, not that you're going to get to get to the way,
Starting point is 00:13:11 not not, not out of the penal, a example. And it's like I
Starting point is 00:13:15 think you that they're they're on those. If the demonio
Starting point is 00:13:20 is very astut a cabiero as you you do it is a
Starting point is 00:13:25 Cavalierro, but I think that also no important the form in that you let's you know the intention. If your intention is, if your intention is there, you're going to
Starting point is 00:13:39 listen. Because we've seen much people that want to invoke a demonio, no has been to all his life. Because the intention not is the correct. Although the form is, the intention not is. But if you have the intention correct, although the form is a simple oration,
Starting point is 00:13:55 to Lucifer, Asmodeo, Astrod, Lillit, etc., you're going to and you're going to respond immediately. I've seen that the cases, for example, of demonios
Starting point is 00:14:10 in quanto to miracles are immediate and even I've seen people that don't have money and the night of the morning are you,
Starting point is 00:14:21 and say, oh, wait, even, even until that you talk about the story, You know, you're being bromying
Starting point is 00:14:26 because this not so but when you're in this studio detailed of the demons or you know,
Starting point is 00:14:32 you know, this is a coerence, this is a power, and who's they do that power?
Starting point is 00:14:39 God. Yes. He does that that's the power, God. So, if God
Starting point is 00:14:43 wants to it, but no want. So, then also, there also there's
Starting point is 00:14:47 also there's that the demons existan, for what for what finalidad
Starting point is 00:14:52 it does. I consider and this is merely what I then I'm like I'm like a
Starting point is 00:14:58 philosophar because at final you say you do you say God has the power to disappear
Starting point is 00:15:04 the malddad of the world but I think there always a reason behind
Starting point is 00:15:10 of every it's like when an example you know to be going to do you
Starting point is 00:15:15 do you do something a situation mal but almost it's like if it's like if
Starting point is 00:15:21 were an impediment that when you you logas overpass it, you're
Starting point is 00:15:27 a person different, you've acquired this knowledge, you've experienced, and you
Starting point is 00:15:32 do you make a person more more savvy. So, you're we're,
Starting point is 00:15:37 we're in a world where all the time we have been in a time
Starting point is 00:15:41 spiritual, where the intention is transcending as a species, like beings
Starting point is 00:15:48 spiritual that also, overpasing as in some moment
Starting point is 00:15:52 what he did Jesus Christ, our master, the Lord of the Lord of as he
Starting point is 00:15:57 being human also have the same temptations and if Jesus Christ also
Starting point is 00:16:02 even go to not because the Bible not not because the Bible not you did say that never
Starting point is 00:16:08 was a man Jesus Christ was a human even even he
Starting point is 00:16:11 was a man he can he incarnate and also took
Starting point is 00:16:16 the necessities of a woman all all all
Starting point is 00:16:21 so So, he came to to give us this example of that if you can't get a divinidad being a human,
Starting point is 00:16:28 even he will say, major things are in my name. That's impressive. Exactly. Demonstrant
Starting point is 00:16:36 that's demonstrating that you can avoid the temptation in the humanity. But what is what is what is the
Starting point is 00:16:42 human is egoist? We're more. For example, and well, and well, and well, who gets a
Starting point is 00:16:49 to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to The ambition in the
Starting point is 00:16:52 human is tremendous. And that's what corromp in first the first in the question. So,
Starting point is 00:16:57 the care oversaler but at costas to pisar to the people, I think
Starting point is 00:17:02 is there where it there's the malddad of the problem. Because he he wanted
Starting point is 00:17:06 to be over to God trying to piece of God. That's Fidate,
Starting point is 00:17:11 Osvaldo, that I want to tell a story, that I want to start to
Starting point is 00:17:15 a question, you'd think you could peg a demon for enter to
Starting point is 00:17:24 an church I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm not because
Starting point is 00:17:30 it's supposed that the church I'm I do you know
Starting point is 00:17:34 well I'm I'll give a context and I tell
Starting point is 00:17:37 the story not not in all the churches in
Starting point is 00:17:41 Mexico so do do do so or practices
Starting point is 00:17:45 that have to have with the religion Catholic
Starting point is 00:17:48 Roman a And, sometimes, some practices. I've talked about before. I was a
Starting point is 00:17:54 place that's very close to where we're that's in a place in a place known as like the
Starting point is 00:17:58 sanctuary, where the people, or the head of a Christo-Negro that's a story,
Starting point is 00:18:05 it's done in the church. A little strange, because the Bible, the
Starting point is 00:18:12 the church that prohibive the use of brewery, and then the people, and, well, the people
Starting point is 00:18:16 the people So, it's a limpia front of the Christ that that's a new episode that you recommend that
Starting point is 00:18:22 you know that's you know, but there's another church. This
Starting point is 00:18:28 church is in Chiapas. It's in San Juan Chamula. This
Starting point is 00:18:35 church has a grand peculiarity something that's something that's different
Starting point is 00:18:41 to the rest. This church historically what the people to tell when you go to
Starting point is 00:18:48 this place. It's a church normal common. Of their doors
Starting point is 00:18:54 for the door is completely different. Yes, there are Santitos they're in
Starting point is 00:19:03 their bitrinas but in this church there's there's there
Starting point is 00:19:08 there chamanes. Okay. All the all the piece is
Starting point is 00:19:14 full like a like a plant, no, I don't have
Starting point is 00:19:18 the name, and there's they're doing sacrifices. So,
Starting point is 00:19:24 they're making they're they're all they're in the blood
Starting point is 00:19:28 of the gallina and is that what what occurred in
Starting point is 00:19:31 this place from the conquest is that in this
Starting point is 00:19:36 place no there no there was a transformation
Starting point is 00:19:40 complete in the question of creensies. And it's rumored that these people,
Starting point is 00:19:49 the chamulas, as also they say, not adopted the creencia Catholic. What they were they were,
Starting point is 00:19:57 they're that they were in the temple, but there's they're doing practices
Starting point is 00:20:02 ancestral, correspondientes antiqued antivisations, Mayas, including. So, adentro
Starting point is 00:20:09 they're in other things very different. is a church to the
Starting point is 00:20:15 way is a way to you know you can't not you don't know they're not
Starting point is 00:20:22 no so uses and customs even there even there even people that has done
Starting point is 00:20:26 that they've they're they're they're they're people and people
Starting point is 00:20:33 and it's a place and it's a thing so much careful ohho no is
Starting point is 00:20:38 nothing in malo in contra of this public for nothing
Starting point is 00:20:41 I was I was, what I'm going to is because I went to that I'm not able to grab it, for obvious
Starting point is 00:20:47 reasons, I just said. So it's very beautiful because if you see the side historical, is to be
Starting point is 00:20:53 how no didn't get the religion Catholic to this point. But as they're not not to make
Starting point is 00:21:00 suspicies because they did an church, which is the typical church. But,
Starting point is 00:21:04 but into, it's put a turvue. Because this testimony or this sensation not the Sient to a person.
Starting point is 00:21:10 They've seen many of people and in this moment I'd like that I'm like to
Starting point is 00:21:14 let's get in the people that's the people that's they're in the church
Starting point is 00:21:19 and see at a many situations cause a kind of a special of a fear
Starting point is 00:21:26 or a fear. A a man to cause fear.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Tama real. So, but to enter to this church causes
Starting point is 00:21:34 10 times more more Tetrico, very sinister, and start seeing how are being how they're matting animals
Starting point is 00:21:43 about. This that I going to tell, me it's Susanna. Susanna is a woman
Starting point is 00:21:51 of approximately 35 years and she visited, was to San Christova and I was visiting
Starting point is 00:21:58 some little little places and they're in social no, you can
Starting point is 00:22:03 go to this Pueblo San Juan Chamula and you will see
Starting point is 00:22:08 many things. This woman knows that since has been a child
Starting point is 00:22:13 she's always has been sensible to be spiritual. Siente that in her family
Starting point is 00:22:20 has moved much this has been abelas that were bruches then then says
Starting point is 00:22:25 I'm I'm like I'm a sensibility major. She says that when visit this
Starting point is 00:22:31 place this place and it was over she not said nothing of this
Starting point is 00:22:36 he they call the attention this Like, there was a magnetism and it's
Starting point is 00:22:42 that's dark. So, see, oscuro. So, it's illuminated with veils. Okay. This is she in that time.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Dice she that's with a group of persons and they give the, and they're not can grab or not can
Starting point is 00:22:56 do this, this, this, enter, they're very respectuosos. She'll be a group of women and
Starting point is 00:23:04 and they're to see or get in the moment where they were sacrificing a cabra
Starting point is 00:23:10 and he he said to her he caused fear because before before
Starting point is 00:23:14 before the sound the animal because they were they were
Starting point is 00:23:21 they were sacrificing and when it's impact to be how people
Starting point is 00:23:28 they were like they were like they're they're they're getting
Starting point is 00:23:33 the the cooel so she she she says
Starting point is 00:23:37 that be in vasigas, like, I'm burtient all this
Starting point is 00:23:41 liquid vital, no, rojo, and to the people that were there,
Starting point is 00:23:45 they were and they're doing, I'm doing, so it's she, me,
Starting point is 00:23:50 me, it's, it's, she, she said, a, she said, a,
Starting point is 00:23:56 oppression in the piece, I said, I said, that, that I could,
Starting point is 00:24:00 I, started, I, started something, and I, I'm, and I,
Starting point is 00:24:03 like, that's like Fault of air. I've to get
Starting point is 00:24:07 to get rapidly. But the ultimate the last, the last she has
Starting point is 00:24:13 one of the person, he termina to get the head to this animal. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Dice that she didn't feel all the time, they're visiting
Starting point is 00:24:23 some people of the people magical and all this, but
Starting point is 00:24:27 that she not was trying. The having entered only those,
Starting point is 00:24:31 what you just, what you was sufficient for that she even went to his house
Starting point is 00:24:38 and she was feeling bad, oprimed, and I'm like depression. She, she had a
Starting point is 00:24:46 child of five years. Baroncito. He said that she is to sleep and he passed
Starting point is 00:24:52 the first night that he was a dream. He said was a bad terrible.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Literally literally he's, so, he went the process of the
Starting point is 00:25:02 Gilesia, but when they were at the point where they were running, the part superior to this animal,
Starting point is 00:25:13 like the the dream and it was the animal to the that they were sacrificing was his
Starting point is 00:25:21 his son. Orale. Because there's a part where like they they're like they're
Starting point is 00:25:26 on and they're to get seeing how the rostro of his his
Starting point is 00:25:31 he kept mirro. So she started to have much fear of
Starting point is 00:25:34 a lot of five or six of the morning still. A sosedada to have to be a
Starting point is 00:25:41 little his son. His his little was in the room. But a
Starting point is 00:25:45 part of that happened something because he said my my
Starting point is 00:25:48 little to have changed. A man that was a quite
Starting point is 00:25:54 quite active he was a little a little
Starting point is 00:25:57 a little a student. In the school, the master, I think that's a little,
Starting point is 00:26:06 the master never me gave me never made to say, that mordy to his companions, that had these
Starting point is 00:26:12 arrakees like this, and the maester, the first is, is it's all in house,
Starting point is 00:26:17 is that, we know that's a little he's got to have changes to normally when
Starting point is 00:26:24 when it's when it's because the children are being being certain type of violence in
Starting point is 00:26:30 house. So, so, so, so, then says, no, maestra, for nothing, well, is that his son, is that's very different. I mean, it's, that the little bit of these attitudes, and,
Starting point is 00:26:42 molesto, moirds his companions. And, he said, Paco, is that this he started to put quite, and every time, he had this dream repeated.
Starting point is 00:26:53 At the month, I was, I, knew about three times. So, then it was a, like, a martyio for there,
Starting point is 00:26:58 to see this scene where they're to run to and he he's a lot of
Starting point is 00:27:05 a lot of the people who went to this place, he said, is that I'm doing this my child
Starting point is 00:27:09 is that is experimenting these situations and so my friend he said you're you've never
Starting point is 00:27:15 seen this we've been to a place different like he to calm it's
Starting point is 00:27:21 but I say it's that no is that I know is that my life has
Starting point is 00:27:22 sent me sensations spiritual and this type of things I feel that
Starting point is 00:27:28 there's a more in my house that's a she's she was he's he's
Starting point is 00:27:31 he's he's that I'm like I'm like a man and it's he's the
Starting point is 00:27:39 way not it's not it's how he influenced his he said he said
Starting point is 00:27:44 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:27:49 but because you don't visit to this person he's he's
Starting point is 00:27:50 a person to be a person specifically to these things to this
Starting point is 00:27:56 person he said that he was he was reading, he
Starting point is 00:28:02 he he has like a question very rapid he's
Starting point is 00:28:06 he a where you did you say because you
Starting point is 00:28:12 you went to you don't you put so
Starting point is 00:28:17 he he's he he put something to you
Starting point is 00:28:20 you you get to you you and the
Starting point is 00:28:22 better is that he found a someone more
Starting point is 00:28:25 more more than you. And is that with your son. To where
Starting point is 00:28:29 you went to get? This person said, you know, I'm going to a misa never,
Starting point is 00:28:34 a, where you're and this woman, and this woman, he said, he said,
Starting point is 00:28:41 no me will be to be a church. Well, no. No,
Starting point is 00:28:46 you've to any didn't, you're to be working with processes,
Starting point is 00:28:51 rituals, ritual of desprend not one. They're about three months
Starting point is 00:28:57 to work with the baby, a yearb rituals, ritual, until that they
Starting point is 00:29:05 were going to get into this entity that that had had taken a great influence
Starting point is 00:29:11 in him because his his his his one of the
Starting point is 00:29:16 one of the things that says one is that there was that
Starting point is 00:29:20 there was like like the other but very very
Starting point is 00:29:23 despacios but constantes. He's like that they're going and
Starting point is 00:29:29 like the movie of terror he's he went the little was in
Starting point is 00:29:34 his room parado and and he was on the front
Starting point is 00:29:39 against the room dormid she he had put
Starting point is 00:29:44 his man and he and he had his his
Starting point is 00:29:47 he he and he all the time did
Starting point is 00:29:50 this type of this I never me, I'm
Starting point is 00:29:54 to the mail all the whole to get to get to
Starting point is 00:29:58 a church never me I'm specifying what kind of
Starting point is 00:30:03 that's a demonio or is a a person he's
Starting point is 00:30:07 no me just so that something I know
Starting point is 00:30:11 what you think that's very interesting that fift
Starting point is 00:30:17 that a quality of the demonio is attack
Starting point is 00:30:20 to the most vulnerable, yeah a minor or a person
Starting point is 00:30:25 in a vulnerability spiritual very, very a very a and I
Starting point is 00:30:33 would say, Paco, that has been a demonio, because a demonio
Starting point is 00:30:38 to dren the energy. A demonio you has to have different things
Starting point is 00:30:42 agressive of the night to the morning. A time manifest a
Starting point is 00:30:48 through the present a through of what you or what more you know in this
Starting point is 00:30:55 case for example the little no so that he was a
Starting point is 00:30:58 fear in this sense this this this this
Starting point is 00:31:02 of being present the demonio for me is very
Starting point is 00:31:08 very is very the entry the family because the
Starting point is 00:31:13 demonio can destroy to your problem destroy your
Starting point is 00:31:17 destroy destroy all what you was construing day and day this
Starting point is 00:31:25 this relato fiftate that is so impactant that many people can say
Starting point is 00:31:33 it's that he he he's he's he's actually I'm
Starting point is 00:31:39 I'm I'm this look there there there no
Starting point is 00:31:42 information in Google no they're with what I asken it and
Starting point is 00:31:47 know what what happens in this And then I do with much respect. Yes, because this,
Starting point is 00:31:52 this, this, I've been in three exorcisms yeah. And I what have seen is this what you
Starting point is 00:32:00 do is, it's much a much cansancio, much a lack of energy, this,
Starting point is 00:32:07 changes brusco, of the comportment, are aggressive, I'd I'd say, and, pardon me the
Starting point is 00:32:16 expression, and all those that are being are like perros atted that's
Starting point is 00:32:20 that's just that they're going to they're they're they're sovers
Starting point is 00:32:24 because so much is the behavior of the demonio what we're saying
Starting point is 00:32:28 to be very effective but this is the the the
Starting point is 00:32:32 poutas that there there in the of the contract no
Starting point is 00:32:38 and fiftate that I I was in misquido in a pact
Starting point is 00:32:44 right that you were talking of the a sacerdote. A
Starting point is 00:32:49 sacerdote is a pact demoniac in a church in a city of
Starting point is 00:32:54 Mexico. And it's documented. Okay. It's there. It's present and
Starting point is 00:33:02 was a notice that was in the period in the man Enrique
Starting point is 00:33:09 he makes a pacto with a demonio but the transfond is is spectacular
Starting point is 00:33:16 because He was what he wanted was to get to be obispo. Is that an alt-gerarch of the church of the
Starting point is 00:33:23 Catholic. So, to occupy the pacto to sub- to be to scoion. He recurre
Starting point is 00:33:32 to some satanists and these satanists as saying, Oye, you're a sacerdote
Starting point is 00:33:38 you have to renonciar to your faith in God, renonciar to what you and put
Starting point is 00:33:44 in first to Lucifer. the sacerdote a series of cards he has a 14
Starting point is 00:33:52 cartes relating all this that I'm I've had the opportunity to have
Starting point is 00:33:56 the access to these these cards in my task in my
Starting point is 00:34:03 question to question to question so in first he had to
Starting point is 00:34:07 get to a woman we're we're we not is extrano
Starting point is 00:34:13 but to this woman he He had his liquid vital in the
Starting point is 00:34:18 night as like if he were to do some some and a
Starting point is 00:34:22 he was in the charystia in the forms in the forms consagrated
Starting point is 00:34:29 that he himself consagra and he was he
Starting point is 00:34:33 said I was I was the liquid vital of the
Starting point is 00:34:38 that is my parent sentimental and at the time
Starting point is 00:34:42 I consume is it is I mean, I don't want to imagine the the flavor of this liquid vital in a form or in an oastia, for so to call it,
Starting point is 00:34:55 and that he was consumed, for in first place, to quit your consangration delante of God. That's a tremendous profanation. That is a blasphemy, a profanation. The title that we'd like to put I think
Starting point is 00:35:12 that would be in the second the second card that he he's
Starting point is 00:35:16 he's he has that he has to pertaince to
Starting point is 00:35:21 satanism and he he has sacrifice to a
Starting point is 00:35:28 more of god yeah he got very so
Starting point is 00:35:33 he metio so he met extremely extremely extremely very
Starting point is 00:35:34 so he he did he he he was a
Starting point is 00:35:38 hospital a Mexico, that is a hospital public, this, and he said to the people that
Starting point is 00:35:45 need to a the medical a even a young, a little of the what they
Starting point is 00:35:50 do? He can't, a fetto. He'll relata that the fetto he cost 150,000
Starting point is 00:35:57 pesos. So, you know, he'll describe with with santo and sign
Starting point is 00:36:02 these cards. 150, 000 $150,000 pesos. Has the ritual with the satanists in
Starting point is 00:36:11 a church satanica and sacrifican to this to this feto of a minor of age he says that he has to to come part of the
Starting point is 00:36:23 feto to to to puter the energy in this case of Lucifer no it's
Starting point is 00:36:33 and the third card us will relate that he has a misa a need to
Starting point is 00:36:41 sell the pacto but not any misa a place in the temple
Starting point is 00:36:48 catholic where he served was a church see the after
Starting point is 00:36:53 then then then I celebrate misa like of
Starting point is 00:36:57 ordinary normal and and at term I'm at
Starting point is 00:37:02 the temple and me did with my brothers of the
Starting point is 00:37:08 order. He relata in these cards, Enrique, that has this
Starting point is 00:37:16 type of bucaque with women and the altar from where the
Starting point is 00:37:25 church in the temples Catholic but a unado that. Exactly. The orgias
Starting point is 00:37:33 Aunado to that that. Saca, will be to get the hostias
Starting point is 00:37:39 consagradas, no, let's put in the altar and all all the fluids of
Starting point is 00:37:46 in that moment they had to go to the hostias consagraphs. Okay?
Starting point is 00:37:52 Wow, no, no, it's been. There, in first place, I think
Starting point is 00:37:59 that his, that's, that's, that's, that's, no, so, yeah
Starting point is 00:38:03 was, with the demon and he and he he says that in this in this misa
Starting point is 00:38:11 occurred two things important one that he sentia an energy
Starting point is 00:38:16 very powerful of him like if he would more more
Starting point is 00:38:21 I want I want more more more and more and the time
Starting point is 00:38:27 that during the time that during the orgia almost six hours
Starting point is 00:38:31 of orgia almost six hours he said all we're all we're because
Starting point is 00:38:39 the entities we'd need more and more so they're they're exactly
Starting point is 00:38:46 they're they're they they're they're and the second that he
Starting point is 00:38:52 relata is that in that moment a bich of him he's presented
Starting point is 00:38:58 lucifer in middle of an Altar. A man
Starting point is 00:39:03 that he he he he and he said he said
Starting point is 00:39:10 in voice he is me when one he
Starting point is 00:39:17 says a see a man a in a in an
Starting point is 00:39:22 church in an in a church that in a church
Starting point is 00:39:25 in what we are in the world they are
Starting point is 00:39:29 they do do. They're all but he's the
Starting point is 00:39:33 worst. In the fourth card relata that he had a
Starting point is 00:39:37 sonnios. He had dreams with entities oscuras that he he was
Starting point is 00:39:43 because he had somras oscours where he was where he wanted he
Starting point is 00:39:49 had done where he had he said that he he had not was
Starting point is 00:39:57 dispuest to do because he had consumed the pacto, and that he was the only that he had
Starting point is 00:40:04 paid to be zero vis, is to be the maximum, a maximum, a maximum gerarch within the
Starting point is 00:40:09 church Catholic. What he said, and what the Father Enrique relattable in
Starting point is 00:40:15 that moment is that was that was to a desvibed a person adult, desvier
Starting point is 00:40:24 to a family and he would be it, and satisfaction to the demonio. The fifth
Starting point is 00:40:34 is that the Father Enrique has he has he's just he says he said he he said in this
Starting point is 00:40:45 in this quarter he'll be able to say fourth day after the ritual he begins
Starting point is 00:40:52 to have moreetones and in actually he they were they sacabed photographs
Starting point is 00:40:56 to the father Enrique and he had moretones, but not moretones, quater,
Starting point is 00:41:01 but not maritones like, like, patas of mula, of a carbill,
Starting point is 00:41:09 of this. Marks, no? Marks, but like if were a errordura
Starting point is 00:41:14 there, uh, in this in the in the the world. The most curious is
Starting point is 00:41:20 that argument the persons certain as Enrique, that if he had a mark in the
Starting point is 00:41:27 arm left on the back, the day the next time he was
Starting point is 00:41:30 and I amecee in other place like so he's
Starting point is 00:41:34 he's he and he was in other place no
Starting point is 00:41:38 the last the he he relata that he
Starting point is 00:41:44 he took and this he was to say
Starting point is 00:41:47 he took to put in a arm a
Starting point is 00:41:53 person with the person with the as with the amoeuvre
Starting point is 00:41:57 because he yeah no no could that the entities
Starting point is 00:42:03 it was the atorment and he he said he said not I'm
Starting point is 00:42:09 they're they're they're those who did what is the
Starting point is 00:42:14 most impressive of this case until this point
Starting point is 00:42:17 nobody nobody so did know of the all
Starting point is 00:42:22 all All they were normal. And they said, no, it's that the Father inspires sanctity. It's that the father has really a God
Starting point is 00:42:36 in his heart when many times those words, not they were of God. No, they were
Starting point is 00:42:45 of God, but provenian of the same diablo, of the same Lucifer. When he desvive to
Starting point is 00:42:51 this person, he becomes loco. The seventh card was his card of
Starting point is 00:42:59 this this for me was very impressive to know what he did.
Starting point is 00:43:08 He he despide and he did pardon for the
Starting point is 00:43:10 acts for the blasphemias for the ritual that he had
Starting point is 00:43:16 he he said he did a satanist in the church and it consisted
Starting point is 00:43:22 in this what he relattable what he was he went and he abient to
Starting point is 00:43:30 the road atent it he went to his life he bent but
Starting point is 00:43:36 before to get in this cart I said the entities I
Starting point is 00:43:40 want to get but before I'm that I go with
Starting point is 00:43:44 I want I want with God curious still
Starting point is 00:43:52 in God. I believe in God still at these altures. I'm and
Starting point is 00:43:55 he's abienta to the line three of the metro of the
Starting point is 00:43:59 city of Mexico. So, they are in the courtee funebres as
Starting point is 00:44:05 dicta the church for a god when the obispo
Starting point is 00:44:11 he this man to send to the temple he he made
Starting point is 00:44:15 to destroy because a The words of the obispo is, this is that maldito. Here,
Starting point is 00:44:23 here I live the demonio. He was to destroy and he made to a construction a new temple. He was
Starting point is 00:44:30 to consangar and he made mises of profanation for that all what there in that
Starting point is 00:44:39 moment would be sealed. Sealled no? Exactly. So, it's
Starting point is 00:44:43 it was out. Because the fear, because the fear if other sacerdote
Starting point is 00:44:47 and see the other here, we can posseer to
Starting point is 00:44:50 the sacerdote. Yohle brother. This history that I was
Starting point is 00:44:56 that I'm that I had to I'm not very very long, 2022.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Oh, okay, not very long, 22 before three years. And this
Starting point is 00:45:09 the church has tried to to be because the campaign
Starting point is 00:45:15 is the Brugery is a But if you Salis with this case
Starting point is 00:45:19 to say to say, a see, a church pap obispo
Starting point is 00:45:24 not that the bruchery is malas his most sacerdotes recurren
Starting point is 00:45:28 to satanism and do that that's not much not much have
Starting point is 00:45:34 access to these documents fiftate that right that I'm talking
Starting point is 00:45:39 all that I'm talking I've talked and I have certainia
Starting point is 00:45:45 with many with much bruchos and the people know and is that
Starting point is 00:45:49 one of the parts that me impact is when they're saying is that even if you don't you think
Starting point is 00:45:54 with me they consults sacerdotes satanical no sacerdotes catholic and they
Starting point is 00:46:03 when they're for example an disease like the Cid like the cancer or
Starting point is 00:46:11 things very very but they know that they're they're they're living a
Starting point is 00:46:17 life in sanctity and that it's a very much to get to get
Starting point is 00:46:21 to do and you know you know I'm going to this side because
Starting point is 00:46:26 here they can listen and me can then then then
Starting point is 00:46:29 then then so and there and this that I
Starting point is 00:46:35 going to say that I'm that present in all
Starting point is 00:46:39 the churches in all the churches both and
Starting point is 00:46:42 Christianas the emotionalism when the person really really has a
Starting point is 00:46:53 discernment for part of God you you know that probably this sacerdote
Starting point is 00:47:00 like these people start they're not there's no there
Starting point is 00:47:05 in this man or there there is something there is a there
Starting point is 00:47:10 is the spirit that's discerning in that moment but as a
Starting point is 00:47:17 little almost nothing of people it can in the emotionalism
Starting point is 00:47:24 if you have done in the Christianism evangelical example clear
Starting point is 00:47:31 the moment when they're when they're and this I don't see
Starting point is 00:47:36 you have been done if they're at one think in
Starting point is 00:47:39 this when when they the offering is after
Starting point is 00:47:43 of that he's the more more intense where you you're in a state vulnerable
Starting point is 00:47:50 is when you're saying you can pass to do your offrenda your dizmo what you
Starting point is 00:47:57 want to you want and the same in the Catholicism there there's
Starting point is 00:48:03 a structure in the Santa Misa not is that someone has to say a
Starting point is 00:48:10 escaleta to say this first, this, this, at the final. No. There's a
Starting point is 00:48:15 why a certain practice is in that moment. And is that much people in the
Starting point is 00:48:23 when you is the reason is it was. Yeah. Nobody to be to pay
Starting point is 00:48:28 money to enter and trying. Why? No. But what how when yeah
Starting point is 00:48:33 passed something when you said, or when you're you're when you
Starting point is 00:48:38 talked to God, between commies, you you're vulnerable, you're blandit,
Starting point is 00:48:43 now you can't let's let's get the money. So, this, and
Starting point is 00:48:50 I'm going to say, no is contra God, I think in God,
Starting point is 00:48:54 I've seen the God, God has been my protection, not the man,
Starting point is 00:49:00 not the man. And it's something because just what I to be to talk to
Starting point is 00:49:07 we're going to make sure, I don't know what you were to say, and you also of what I
Starting point is 00:49:12 were to be but have to have been with a pact in a
Starting point is 00:49:17 church okay this history is very long, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:49:22 try to resume because it's a story that is of
Starting point is 00:49:25 eight ojas I I'm to resum to do much that
Starting point is 00:49:29 for to maintain the relevant it. It does a
Starting point is 00:49:34 woman of 31 years no me his name
Starting point is 00:49:38 she she me they say that for part of his work, the
Starting point is 00:49:43 mandarone no me do the name for questions of security so of her,
Starting point is 00:49:49 even for not perjudic this people. It's a country but much
Starting point is 00:49:54 probably know what is because it has because it has different.
Starting point is 00:50:00 In the entry of the people is a temple, a church
Starting point is 00:50:04 a Catholic abandoned and this place is like a one hour of her house.
Starting point is 00:50:11 She was she was a chemical and because in this people, for part of her work they were
Starting point is 00:50:17 a laboratory. So she was in this town, the lune's to the day, she was the
Starting point is 00:50:24 people that had to do you checkos, she was chemica. She said that she
Starting point is 00:50:31 went to her work all the morning with the other chemics and so and she
Starting point is 00:50:36 always she called the attention because there a church abandoned in the
Starting point is 00:50:40 entry of the people. And is that they called more because it was a
Starting point is 00:50:43 church very great that I'm a lot that they're right, right, right,
Starting point is 00:50:48 so farce they're they're to get to get and I know what so,
Starting point is 00:50:53 it was too was a abandoned and even even so was abandoned and even
Starting point is 00:50:59 she was she was she did he was curious no did nothing
Starting point is 00:51:02 but one day that I was one of his people he
Starting point is 00:51:07 he said, Oye, you know why this church is a and he said that
Starting point is 00:51:14 he's a companyer like, like, even a little bit of the vehicle.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And he said, I'm to ask something. When you get time and
Starting point is 00:51:23 you get to work, ask to get to do you, and you
Starting point is 00:51:28 go to do you want to do you want to you pick the
Starting point is 00:51:33 curiosity no. Dice I say in my me. Termino my
Starting point is 00:51:37 journey. I said, I'm in the days. I'm out of because
Starting point is 00:51:41 you know because you're a lot of food. There's many things very beautiful in
Starting point is 00:51:44 these places. And he to get to a little and it's like a bank.
Starting point is 00:51:50 There's a bank. There was a time. And I said, I sent and
Starting point is 00:51:55 I'm going to make to make to make to do you the platic to the thing of
Starting point is 00:52:02 the church abandoned. And the senior, like he
Starting point is 00:52:06 bright the eyes. He said, I went to the church when was a
Starting point is 00:52:11 little. There was a name of the sacerdote that was a
Starting point is 00:52:17 good. He was that he was the he was a catacism to the
Starting point is 00:52:22 people. No, Catechists. No. He a he was to be
Starting point is 00:52:28 close of the children. He was very so was a kind of
Starting point is 00:52:33 a a very very strong with the little and he gave cattecateism
Starting point is 00:52:38 to me he said but in that the woman like he he changed the rostro
Starting point is 00:52:43 like there's a bad a and she he's and she but
Starting point is 00:52:49 well there there there and this this this man this
Starting point is 00:52:55 this much but what's what more the she never to continue
Starting point is 00:53:00 and I said I still I still I no, but
Starting point is 00:53:03 quentem because the she was he went to take your placeesito of tamalitos
Starting point is 00:53:08 with the permission me have to go and he was he came he came
Starting point is 00:53:13 there was there was there was something that he and said we said all those
Starting point is 00:53:19 those the chemics in a house of a woman and I tell
Starting point is 00:53:23 my my company what had I said but
Starting point is 00:53:25 you know you you know you you have someone and
Starting point is 00:53:29 I remember of Leonora who were Leonora Leonora
Starting point is 00:53:33 was the woman that she had to come to do the morning before to get to
Starting point is 00:53:39 work. He'd and he had his tortillas a man and the coffee
Starting point is 00:53:43 toye. And one day, this woman she went with her and he started
Starting point is 00:53:48 and he started and he was getting the talk again to the
Starting point is 00:53:54 thing of the church the church abandoned. Dice that when he says
Starting point is 00:53:59 or he starts this information Leonora like if if someone was to hear to
Starting point is 00:54:04 hear the door to see the door to it's sure that no there's
Starting point is 00:54:10 you why you're to know no well it's
Starting point is 00:54:13 that because there's there's because there a church because
Starting point is 00:54:19 they've to have to build another what what what
Starting point is 00:54:22 said it's it's something that all the people
Starting point is 00:54:26 know because they're they're fear to Or why? Is that they
Starting point is 00:54:34 think that if you do you talk, despirtas the maldiction. Well, that's,
Starting point is 00:54:41 there, all the doubts were, I mean, you're about, what you're saying,
Starting point is 00:54:47 Leonora, like, not convinced, but viewing the insistence, he says, look,
Starting point is 00:54:52 what happens is that has been many years, there was a person that was
Starting point is 00:54:57 a very very good for the people, very very good. It was a
Starting point is 00:55:00 a man very human independently of that's a sastardote help even economically
Starting point is 00:55:05 to the people, to the people, very well. For some reason it's
Starting point is 00:55:13 they've been you know. You know, that's that can that's a great mystery too.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Because there people that say that this happens when a one, discover
Starting point is 00:55:22 something about the sacerdote and they have to do, or two,
Starting point is 00:55:25 the the sacerote got that the people, and before
Starting point is 00:55:29 that has more relevancy, they're to move. Yes. That regularly always
Starting point is 00:55:36 always occur the second. Exactly. So, so this man, this sacerote was very
Starting point is 00:55:41 very good. It was a other. And here there was a problem. This second
Starting point is 00:55:48 sacerdote that was for his character more frio, he, had certain
Starting point is 00:55:55 practices that the people no liked. For example, the people to get to the catechism and that the sastardote
Starting point is 00:56:01 he did the catechism. No, he's if he wasco catechists, now they're going to do you, the people like not was
Starting point is 00:56:08 very in accord or not was happy because they were they came and they changed and they said that's all
Starting point is 00:56:15 in the people, there are bruchas and bruchas blackas. Facil. A person
Starting point is 00:56:21 know the people know that they're doing the damage, they're they're doing the people,
Starting point is 00:56:27 yeah had like between seha and seha the that
Starting point is 00:56:30 he said they're saying, they're they're bad because, for
Starting point is 00:56:34 sandro, for grosser as they want to do you and that all this
Starting point is 00:56:39 deton when Doa Mercedes, that was a curandera of the people was
Starting point is 00:56:44 helping in a in the labor of a part to a woman, this
Starting point is 00:56:50 is a complicated and the child nace a mother. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:57 What he does this woman, this curandera, was to goreering with the baby in the hands. They said that still had a little of signals and that this curandera was going to be able to the sacerdote for that he did a saint-bautizo. For that the credence was that he not, not could die
Starting point is 00:57:24 in a original so the the little he had a
Starting point is 00:57:28 signos vital very very very leves and they
Starting point is 00:57:31 and that the sacerdote he to to baptize
Starting point is 00:57:36 and there was what was what did what
Starting point is 00:57:41 this woman this cook she she he started
Starting point is 00:57:45 that this witch she molest so that he
Starting point is 00:57:49 began to join with the Bruchas and they
Starting point is 00:57:53 did a maldition to the sacerdote. The sacerote was a man not
Starting point is 00:57:59 very much 40 and many years but they saw how the night to the morning
Starting point is 00:58:06 he's he started to get to get to get to get to
Starting point is 00:58:12 they're saying that when was the misa like they were like
Starting point is 00:58:15 attacks of like if it's and that simply came his family for him
Starting point is 00:58:25 and he's he's got another sacerdote and it does it but this if he felles
Starting point is 00:58:33 in the inside it they're trying in the church so the people began to
Starting point is 00:58:39 say that something that something because also these bruchas
Starting point is 00:58:44 mourn were they're found mortals then the people
Starting point is 00:58:49 He said a conclusion they say that when someone is a try to dogeria
Starting point is 00:58:56 to a person is called by God that is a rebotta but
Starting point is 00:59:02 seven more so so did that the first they think they
Starting point is 00:59:09 they're they're but a part of there the next they're more
Starting point is 00:59:13 they're but also the in some manner they affected so
Starting point is 00:59:19 the people so the people began to say that was the soul of the first
Starting point is 00:59:26 sacerdote coexistien or conviviening with the soul of the woman of then so
Starting point is 00:59:36 it said that there were various sacerdotes and ritualized the
Starting point is 00:59:40 like they started an exorcism to the and like they're they're all
Starting point is 00:59:46 content there. The people took so fear that they didn't
Starting point is 00:59:51 that they're in ruins and construed another. The people started to
Starting point is 00:59:56 have been to know that this. This woman, the that we talked the
Starting point is 01:00:01 story, says we're on the night. And I was in house of
Starting point is 01:00:05 this listening all this me did much fear and this this
Starting point is 01:00:10 she made to be to talk so she took to go and I'm
Starting point is 01:00:12 to go and it's when was my house or where I where I lived
Starting point is 01:00:17 I was about a few houses in the same quadra says but when I was coming on the people
Starting point is 01:00:23 this lady she said I'm afraid because they're saying when you talk you invocas
Starting point is 01:00:28 you say he was going to the and I there are many many arboles
Starting point is 01:00:34 that there was like a little an animal that he was going because she was
Starting point is 01:00:38 talking how they moved the ramas of the arbos and that
Starting point is 01:00:43 she she and that he started to lastimar the hair and he said I don't
Starting point is 01:00:50 see I know just he just he's to make how I'm a leteo and he's
Starting point is 01:00:56 he's he's he went to his court he told all those to his
Starting point is 01:01:00 company not they they're but but in a way he
Starting point is 01:01:05 started to be now to a end he said that that night
Starting point is 01:01:10 standing in your room had a bellita because
Starting point is 01:01:13 no there the light electric, it says that when the paga, she
Starting point is 01:01:17 to sleep to do do with the hours something, it's something, but
Starting point is 01:01:24 simply opened the eyes. She's sit in the camera, looking by the
Starting point is 01:01:29 window and it was I'm going of those times that there can be
Starting point is 01:01:33 in rye and it's and when be the pretty says
Starting point is 01:01:39 that I see that a woman that out like a
Starting point is 01:01:42 20 meters of the ventana. And it was because it came a rio and
Starting point is 01:01:45 this illumured. He said he called the attention that's a woman a plen
Starting point is 01:01:50 a wacero. Yes, at the morning. Tard. And he says that it
Starting point is 01:01:54 and he is a soma and he's a certain to the ventana and like if
Starting point is 01:02:00 was a movie, this woman came to a velocity impression and see that is
Starting point is 01:02:06 that is parted just in front of her. I said I don't know what
Starting point is 01:02:10 I was I was paralyzed and this woman, trespass the window
Starting point is 01:02:14 and I feel his hands frias how they're to fixier me and I
Starting point is 01:02:21 only say I'm like like, like, like this sound. And he said I
Starting point is 01:02:28 said I was that there was that there was that you pegs in your respaldar
Starting point is 01:02:33 to your car and I said I don't know to learn me the I'm
Starting point is 01:02:35 I'm to say that there's there's there's that there retum
Starting point is 01:02:41 the latina and yeah no had nothing he went two two times he passed
Starting point is 01:02:47 in that house he said I don't doormy I'm in my work
Starting point is 01:02:51 and for his work he entered of something I tend a lot
Starting point is 01:02:56 people and he he said he's he stuff of orina
Starting point is 01:02:59 those fecal many things but I'm to hear that
Starting point is 01:03:03 the people that was saying between you and he
Starting point is 01:03:11 No, I don't know why. But yeah, he's not the regress. He said, but I don't understand what they were. And said, the day the next,
Starting point is 01:03:20 I see, I'm over at our cocinner. It was very molest, was very tensed. And he said,
Starting point is 01:03:27 I didn't to talk about to that. The people in the people, you know, this entity regresso.
Starting point is 01:03:34 The invocam for about to her. And he said, but how for about? You're going
Starting point is 01:03:38 to invoke something? No, I don't know, but the people yeah it's a being,
Starting point is 01:03:43 and because as she she lived something, the cociner, it was the night that he went to
Starting point is 01:03:49 all the things. Wow. All the people was all the people. He said,
Starting point is 01:03:54 yeah, you know, there were hours for that was a Saturday, I'm going
Starting point is 01:03:58 to go to my house, yeah, I'm going to be a time, they're going,
Starting point is 01:04:03 to the side, they're going to be at the church, and say,
Starting point is 01:04:08 oh, and the people of the people like so, so, so, so, like, well, so, bien, they're just
Starting point is 01:04:13 to do, let's go ahead, if it's certain, no, that's true, no, that's true, no, no, no, for favor, no, no,
Starting point is 01:04:19 they're going, go, no, no, no, for favor, I, I'm, no, no, but I,
Starting point is 01:04:24 he said, he said, he came, to get, to the church, and I, said, I'm
Starting point is 01:04:29 to feel, much fear, much fear. Of course, they're, they're not, they're not, but he's,
Starting point is 01:04:37 he's, It's called the attention because in the the wallet, detrace where is this messita, where's the mis, I don't know, I don't know how
Starting point is 01:04:44 it's called. The altar, the altar. There, he said, like a symbol made, I've done,
Starting point is 01:04:49 you know, it's called the attention. Well, she went to his house, I'm going to go to be a
Starting point is 01:04:57 time, and that night he said that he said that he said that he started to listen to the
Starting point is 01:05:02 rooids, rumors. It's normal. A the other than the bestinos, blah, blah, blah. So, blah, blah. And see a person sent out of his comed.
Starting point is 01:05:15 But this time, he was a man. And he said that he started other times that oppression and how the fact of being to be a certain
Starting point is 01:05:23 of this entity, that not he was, I felt how he pared in the coo. As he was
Starting point is 01:05:29 he went to to the room, he was in-serr he could do not, the second night,
Starting point is 01:05:34 he said to a and he says that I know what to do what
Starting point is 01:05:37 do I'm going to my house and it's how
Starting point is 01:05:41 contact a woman that he was to help
Starting point is 01:05:44 in this situation and this woman as the
Starting point is 01:05:48 first he said you did you have you
Starting point is 01:05:53 and is that what me preoccup is that this
Starting point is 01:05:57 has this has a energy and if I
Starting point is 01:06:01 do three months you do for that's a mother
Starting point is 01:06:05 she's he's she's she was submeting a series of limpeas
Starting point is 01:06:10 banes of yearbos rituals with bellas salt even
Starting point is 01:06:15 even they were to sacrifice some some some
Starting point is 01:06:18 guys for and she was like she she
Starting point is 01:06:23 was she she she I did me my
Starting point is 01:06:26 change I know I did she like she she's
Starting point is 01:06:35 she's she she's she's she's she's a new very vivid
Starting point is 01:06:40 okay he says that in that's see how he a woman with a
Starting point is 01:06:46 baby in his and she and that's that's she's that
Starting point is 01:06:51 she's to be to where was this woman and he they said he was
Starting point is 01:06:56 like this woman was like this they were they wanted And,
Starting point is 01:07:00 and with other women, they were to the church, yeah that was in the carver of
Starting point is 01:07:08 the child. And all this is all this is soyeing the person that we send the person who
Starting point is 01:07:13 and we see how one of these women cut a part of the
Starting point is 01:07:17 of the baby fallecid and like they they're to be to drain
Starting point is 01:07:22 the the sand for the and when they're sufficient
Starting point is 01:07:27 blood, with the hands, they started, they're to make a symbol in the altar, that literally they're saying for that they're
Starting point is 01:07:39 to come back with that sacerdote and for what we've been with all. With all. And she is a
Starting point is 01:07:46 alterated, he says to this other shamanah what he said, you've you've seen literally the
Starting point is 01:07:52 ritual that they've done in this church. And record when one of those companion,
Starting point is 01:07:57 he said, the only rarro was like a symbol in the part of
Starting point is 01:08:02 the altar of the altar, a symbol in rojo. She finished this
Starting point is 01:08:06 courroo saying, he did the change of this place, he was all over
Starting point is 01:08:12 completely. No creed in the paranormal, but all these things
Starting point is 01:08:17 that occurred in this place, and this was in the 2015, the
Starting point is 01:08:21 they were for always, wow. It's a story. I mean, it's very large. I tried
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Starting point is 01:09:29 people were, encarned, in a demonio? There's a person that we say that
Starting point is 01:09:36 a person, a person, a person, is that is a demonio is an energy that
Starting point is 01:09:42 never has been a human, in comparison with an soul in pen, that has
Starting point is 01:09:46 has, it has, has, has, but when a person that was that was
Starting point is 01:09:50 that was that not can't the pardon or no can't transcender like for
Starting point is 01:09:56 some for some his own naturalness mala this person me said,
Starting point is 01:10:02 could get to get to become a demonio for that same natural
Starting point is 01:10:07 malignant because now will be going to make to be
Starting point is 01:10:12 a past that his natural so was human act
Starting point is 01:10:17 they're literally like demonians and they are like
Starting point is 01:10:20 demon I think this was what what It's what happened? Yeah, because
Starting point is 01:10:24 look at me I like much to learn and in a lecture in a
Starting point is 01:10:33 movie in the movie of the Exorcism of Emily Robus Salen and
Starting point is 01:10:37 in the audio in the name of Kain Yeah exactly the name
Starting point is 01:10:45 of this person this German that caused many that caused many
Starting point is 01:10:50 difficulties for so you I asked you, to read this
Starting point is 01:10:53 story, what you think that was demonious or simply energy negative,
Starting point is 01:11:01 beings, in this case, the bruchas, that are going back in this
Starting point is 01:11:06 church. I'm going for the second option. In some
Starting point is 01:11:09 the process, to be this when we're when we put us in the mess
Starting point is 01:11:15 liquid vital of a baby, we put in the me is a sigilo, a seal
Starting point is 01:11:21 salomonic, a pantacul, magia negra, we know that you have been a portal
Starting point is 01:11:28 to a maligno. Tantto can be a demonio because the of the
Starting point is 01:11:34 reasons that we gave to be to be a person to be posseid
Starting point is 01:11:38 is that you can be to make to the so so. So,
Starting point is 01:11:42 so I would think that they're exactly that but
Starting point is 01:11:46 or leaving there but sumandoled the castigue probably divino
Starting point is 01:11:50 for having done this that they're not even they're not they're that they're
Starting point is 01:11:56 so any of one of one or another reason I'm what I can consider
Starting point is 01:12:02 it can't be a demonio or an energy human actuando and
Starting point is 01:12:09 this in the people is very arraigated if you met with a
Starting point is 01:12:13 sacerdote no can't the castig no not can't say the pardon, the pardon divine, but the castigua, no,
Starting point is 01:12:20 and it's very distant to what I've to come to commenter, well, that me said in the favor of, to, to,
Starting point is 01:12:27 to, give me this document, no, a, a, a other that's, and a other that's,
Starting point is 01:12:34 it's very, me, it's very, it's, it's, even, how there are people that
Starting point is 01:12:40 can't, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I took to be in parroquies, we'd have the typical manzana,
Starting point is 01:12:49 the guayava, dinner, fruit. I'd be to be very honest. I mean, I was going to be never,
Starting point is 01:12:57 maybe no, because me protected to God, no, if we'll see it's this form,
Starting point is 01:13:03 but the manzans, the gallina was I had I was with my man and was trying,
Starting point is 01:13:08 I was, something, no, of my part? Yes, yes, yeah, sure,
Starting point is 01:13:12 direct, without, and, without and I know that many people
Starting point is 01:13:16 recurren to something like a person one of a person one one of I said I'm like I'm
Starting point is 01:13:23 like oh oh yeah so it's like you because you know because you're
Starting point is 01:13:28 not because you're on the side of you're you're you're you're
Starting point is 01:13:32 to you're and this I'm I'm in in a
Starting point is 01:13:38 case of a possession demoniac to the I'm I don't have the privilege to say privilege
Starting point is 01:13:45 because very many many times you can be in these in these rites the year
Starting point is 01:13:52 pasto just the year of the year past okay a woman of 44 years
Starting point is 01:13:59 a girl of nine her nine his mom his mom of 72 73 years
Starting point is 01:14:07 these person, this lady, this lady, a man solterer, no, he looks for curiosity and to know
Starting point is 01:14:20 in a library an library an ritual of magic nera. For simple curiosity. Or
Starting point is 01:14:29 surprise that this ritual data of the century 18 what what is
Starting point is 01:14:37 here? That she he's he has to So, he has like to
Starting point is 01:14:43 adorn, like if were a book more, a book common and corient, but
Starting point is 01:14:49 it's the moment in that she put to to study this book of Magia
Starting point is 01:14:55 Negra of the single 18. I like to recalcate that is of the
Starting point is 01:14:59 century because not is something that is something that's something
Starting point is 01:15:03 in internet or not a book really actually an
Starting point is 01:15:08 I'm to share the photo I have the photo of the of the book.
Starting point is 01:15:12 We can show? Yes, yes, we can be able to show. And in
Starting point is 01:15:17 this book, it was how could invoke a an entity demoniac but not
Starting point is 01:15:24 any entity demoniac to be the rey of the moscas. Many
Starting point is 01:15:33 that we studied the demonology we put to the second man after
Starting point is 01:15:38 of Lucifer a demon powerful, no? The prince the prince of the of the of the
Starting point is 01:15:45 of the of the she she has to have this acercement with the
Starting point is 01:15:52 book to evoke to this entity demoniac but it's with the
Starting point is 01:15:59 excuse the mom because the person not is not not can
Starting point is 01:16:04 give testimony of this but according the mother for
Starting point is 01:16:07 to know And here, it's recalcar that they were going to
Starting point is 01:16:13 a crisis economic, because it was a mom solterer, no, a little and still
Starting point is 01:16:18 had to have to have been to be a mother. So, so in
Starting point is 01:16:22 this crisis economic, then it has to read the book and
Starting point is 01:16:28 there is something that she has a fortune and the abundance. I think
Starting point is 01:16:35 to a quack I'm the attention to say, oh, you, you're going to be a millionaire
Starting point is 01:16:39 to the night, no? Sure. I think to nobody he would say no
Starting point is 01:16:45 to a one of a proposal so. But she she starts these rituals.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Relata the mom that this person starts to get to his room and the
Starting point is 01:16:59 mom at time to pass said that I said that I used that
Starting point is 01:17:03 had been a a platica of many people and us says it's that not they're
Starting point is 01:17:12 voices of a woman if not they were voices of women
Starting point is 01:17:16 voices grave that I just I just was and I wanted
Starting point is 01:17:21 and I wanted to get to have different different and he's
Starting point is 01:17:29 to get to his little he starts when not
Starting point is 01:17:33 normal in the family that to succeed to this
Starting point is 01:17:37 to the mom he starts to get the responsibility
Starting point is 01:17:42 to the his and they're they they're they
Starting point is 01:17:46 they and the first they were the book and
Starting point is 01:17:52 a and then then I did testimony of
Starting point is 01:17:56 that and to visit to the person I
Starting point is 01:17:59 was so like how is here your your
Starting point is 01:18:05 your your image so, but the book of Magia Negra with a
Starting point is 01:18:10 bell okay, no? And this the family said that this person
Starting point is 01:18:17 yeah not wanted to eat that no wanted to dream that's it was
Starting point is 01:18:24 like this person had had animals didn't of it
Starting point is 01:18:30 because of it relinchable like were a cabo or of a
Starting point is 01:18:36 repent this graznava or ladrava or so it was it was a
Starting point is 01:18:41 very strange like if were even even a schizophrenia okay
Starting point is 01:18:46 we can put it in a term scientific so the the
Starting point is 01:18:50 mom us us we tell that he came
Starting point is 01:18:54 first with some and and that in the
Starting point is 01:19:00 people these people empeor the situation like the
Starting point is 01:19:04 moment of being the entity so the entity's nojo because they were
Starting point is 01:19:09 they're they're they're and they're and then this this
Starting point is 01:19:13 this chica inflaka yeah his his court lia like
Starting point is 01:19:20 if something something or if it was she and then
Starting point is 01:19:24 the then the woman now recurre to a other
Starting point is 01:19:27 bros the same doesn't they're said what said
Starting point is 01:19:33 what said this nobody will be able to the last place is a church is
Starting point is 01:19:39 a little in the center of Koyokan where I stood this the apostolado and the
Starting point is 01:19:45 father me and say oh yeah well to investigate because regularly the cases
Starting point is 01:19:50 that get many times not are not are not some not are not I'm
Starting point is 01:19:55 I'm I'm when it when it when it when it went to the
Starting point is 01:20:02 room and I think the first that I see is the book of Magia Negra
Starting point is 01:20:06 and a bela the woman was about down of the camera
Starting point is 01:20:10 like occulting of something of someone I know
Starting point is 01:20:14 I I said I said salodar and the first
Starting point is 01:20:19 he did me a rasgoon I say rasgo
Starting point is 01:20:24 me like if were the defensive so like
Starting point is 01:20:27 so like was an animal there that was
Starting point is 01:20:30 in the house. Pasa that at the moment of I
Starting point is 01:20:38 have the door it's a bette and in that moment
Starting point is 01:20:45 she abienta she like if if had had gone and
Starting point is 01:20:51 not knew that she had the door to to
Starting point is 01:20:55 to make to let let I the mom and the her,
Starting point is 01:21:04 that they're what they were what they want to say, is that this my my child
Starting point is 01:21:08 has been a clinically or psychiatrically or psychiatricam never. Yeah recurried
Starting point is 01:21:14 to this and we know we we're doing to you know, we're doing a
Starting point is 01:21:21 second and I'm going to come to enter and I'm going to make a question fundamental
Starting point is 01:21:26 to see if is a posseida or not is posited the the
Starting point is 01:21:31 the And if is a posseida you have to initiate the ritual yeah because if you say you
Starting point is 01:21:39 argumenta that you know we then we we're in the last time to the possession at point of that
Starting point is 01:21:46 that person No I Entro me I feel in the sillioncito that they're
Starting point is 01:21:55 and I do a question very fundamental and that me like that Antonio
Starting point is 01:22:01 Antonio Samudio it's coex pater filocoe the volunted the father
Starting point is 01:22:08 does it make you he would have put a a cohette he's but a
Starting point is 01:22:18 salto you say oh yes this one a person no he does he
Starting point is 01:22:23 does count he was here where I'm where I don't know I'm
Starting point is 01:22:29 Okay. And he said to the signora, your daughter is posseive. He mark immediately to the father
Starting point is 01:22:38 and I said you know, father, Necessita you need because effectively is a posseida.
Starting point is 01:22:45 And me and said, you said the question, I said, I go, father, when I
Starting point is 01:22:48 did the question, he said, I'm in immediate. Sure. He came the father
Starting point is 01:22:54 and he said, I've got to mark to the obispo and me has given the authorization
Starting point is 01:23:00 to do the exorcism because you me is the last time the exorcism he's the he's a misa
Starting point is 01:23:09 he's a your servitor a man fornido or so musculoso and a senior
Starting point is 01:23:18 and then when he needs the misa the chica the chava of 44 years
Starting point is 01:23:26 begins to agitars as if we're just we're in a temblor and the repent the father
Starting point is 01:23:34 says, agarrenla because right he's going to come in contra of me
Starting point is 01:23:39 in the consagration effectively in the consagration the chica is like if it
Starting point is 01:23:46 was a leon in contra of the sacerdote but between
Starting point is 01:23:52 us one person musculosa you you're you're to to contain a
Starting point is 01:23:57 a, a, a, a little and your servitor, not we couldn't
Starting point is 01:24:02 contain her. It was the sansonism within the of the possession. Yes. No?
Starting point is 01:24:10 The father, at the mass, begins the ritual and he says, he does
Starting point is 01:24:15 a order in Latin to reveal his names. No, they're they're
Starting point is 01:24:21 they're seven. Okay. In the there existed seven persons.
Starting point is 01:24:29 And the father he will say how are so. We're two.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Wow. And the father he said, give me the name. And in first
Starting point is 01:24:44 he gave the name of Belcebo. He said, I'm Belsabov. Obviously this
Starting point is 01:24:54 dialogue in Spanish if not it was a dialogue in latin okay no
Starting point is 01:24:59 so in the moment that he says I'm Belsheb he
Starting point is 01:25:04 he says no me you're to get me I'm going to
Starting point is 01:25:08 get because she me offered her his life
Starting point is 01:25:13 her a change of money but he I
Starting point is 01:25:18 never I did this dialogue direct with the
Starting point is 01:25:23 sacerdote that and with your servidor had to learn
Starting point is 01:25:29 latin I'm to get to give to take to this type of situations
Starting point is 01:25:33 so so so they're a second a single
Starting point is 01:25:39 paco rituals of exorcism the exorcism the the
Starting point is 01:25:48 light chal it, it's the light so it's
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Starting point is 01:26:31 You are. I wish I could spend all day with you instead. Uh, Dave, you're off mute. Hey, happens to the best of us. Enjoy some goldfish cheddar crackers. Goldfish have short memories. Be like goldfish. Oh, you can see?
Starting point is 01:26:50 No, it's this one. Here is Here, yeah, that's at the way, that's at
Starting point is 01:26:56 me, way. So, one a semester were exorcisms. All a week.
Starting point is 01:27:03 All one a time. To six of the morning to make night.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Oh, man, that can't be too. It was very can't because
Starting point is 01:27:12 if even the was going to the exorcism was the sacerdote, your servidor
Starting point is 01:27:18 with the other two people, we had to do baya of contention
Starting point is 01:27:22 and of a chain or a a cadena and it was a and it's
Starting point is 01:27:26 a very very impression we're we're we're we're
Starting point is 01:27:32 that the person began to eat to come animals that they were
Starting point is 01:27:37 on your almoa of your colchon and I'm talking of gusannos
Starting point is 01:27:40 cucarachas this arana and it was it was not it was
Starting point is 01:27:45 not it was the also also also he was
Starting point is 01:27:50 he he's he or not he's he's and he he's
Starting point is 01:27:54 he's yeah almost calva the the person get the
Starting point is 01:28:00 the moment in that the person falle sure yeah no
Starting point is 01:28:06 he can do not I want no I want but there
Starting point is 01:28:10 there there something that me so I'm that I
Starting point is 01:28:13 do I'm so I this what passed. A
Starting point is 01:28:18 the three days of what this is to get to robar. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:24 A those three days they're to rob to my house, never in
Starting point is 01:28:28 the life had passed. Never. And they're they're in a
Starting point is 01:28:33 window and I, with my mom and my mother, the I resgarde
Starting point is 01:28:38 in the bano. And I gotro a I'm I'm where
Starting point is 01:28:43 we're where we're the And he said, If this person came and he's
Starting point is 01:28:49 from where it's where you the window, here I'll receive.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Dicho and he said the person the person I receive with a with a
Starting point is 01:29:01 with a cutiazo and me me me want to get to the
Starting point is 01:29:05 carcel. I was in a process legal I'm in the separate
Starting point is 01:29:11 and I'm to go to to go to go to the reclusory for omicidio. If you felled the person? No,
Starting point is 01:29:18 felled, but, pardon, for the intent of homicide. No, fellesio, but I was in the hospital. No, me wanted to,
Starting point is 01:29:25 the defense. The legitimate defense. I was, I was trying in my house. Sure, but it's in your house.
Starting point is 01:29:32 What is what curious of this, my, I mean, that I then I'm with my
Starting point is 01:29:37 guide spiritual, me said, is that the demonium you know there. and is doing the
Starting point is 01:29:43 impossible to get to the when I said I'm I'm to get to get
Starting point is 01:29:49 to the reclosory for that that is a nothing if not it's
Starting point is 01:29:54 because an an abogado me and I don't be right
Starting point is 01:29:59 here with you that it's great man three days
Starting point is 01:30:03 after that the person fall he pass this
Starting point is 01:30:08 so that curious no I I me I'm
Starting point is 01:30:11 with that if maybe the demonio yeah not
Starting point is 01:30:15 that I know that I know so sometimes the
Starting point is 01:30:20 people and you know you say you do you do you
Starting point is 01:30:24 this can this can be a repercus I I
Starting point is 01:30:28 always I always I say very very very
Starting point is 01:30:35 religious but your work and my work the
Starting point is 01:30:38 and tell these stories and give to the people to see a
Starting point is 01:30:42 a reality is a way in a while we're constantly in a war
Starting point is 01:30:48 spiritual because our projects my project my project podcast Extraanormal gets
Starting point is 01:30:57 a millions of people of form seminal minceal mensual
Starting point is 01:31:03 then to a time to get all this
Starting point is 01:31:07 information and and it and it's when they're what you think you
Starting point is 01:31:13 do you like so when we're when we think we know with the
Starting point is 01:31:17 history to do but when we're we're we're we're it's
Starting point is 01:31:25 desagradable no me it's repugnant because we're top most
Starting point is 01:31:32 with what we we we're on this podcast and that
Starting point is 01:31:34 that that that's that that's not beautiful And
Starting point is 01:31:38 disgraceably not all the platforms us permit them for this point and they're many or silencers
Starting point is 01:31:47 because because no we can't express it so there there's a reality that we can't
Starting point is 01:31:53 ignore but it's it's complicated much communicate yeah much yeah just
Starting point is 01:31:58 and to me the people that have asked you want to you want to my response
Starting point is 01:32:02 always no it's difficult because it's It's a Disgast. Sush,
Starting point is 01:32:08 imagine to times. It's a disgast. And if that's going to
Starting point is 01:32:12 bring in risk to your family, no, imagineate. Sure, that no. I mean,
Starting point is 01:32:17 I'm sorry, I'm prepared for another, yeah, I'm and I'm and I'm
Starting point is 01:32:21 doing, but no it's something that I say, ah, it's like to go to play football,
Starting point is 01:32:27 no, because the person suffer, too, but it's very very pesado.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Amigo, I want to find this ultimate story, The Amanda Carmen, actually 41 years,
Starting point is 01:32:41 is a story shortita, but it's a very interesting because she me says that this is a in a
Starting point is 01:32:48 town where she is in Idlego and she says that always he kept a spinita. When you
Starting point is 01:32:57 you live a experience paranormal, you get an spinita of that if was real or has
Starting point is 01:33:02 an explanation because normally all has an explanation. She says that all when fallece
Starting point is 01:33:10 his Tio Armando. He was the brother of his father and was a person very cared for the
Starting point is 01:33:17 family, for the people, and when he felles then he reune all the
Starting point is 01:33:21 family, no, the sobrin, the brothers, many people. After of what they
Starting point is 01:33:27 do they're the endierro to the days, the family is put to make to make
Starting point is 01:33:34 a misa. This at the nine days. So is that... Yeah, the levantment of cross.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Exactly. It's very classic, no. The second a misa, says, very simple in the parochia
Starting point is 01:33:45 in the parochia of St. Miguel, a day and they were like 15 people. And he says,
Starting point is 01:33:51 I'm sitting in a bank, my mom is a side of my right, my right, my right,
Starting point is 01:33:56 family, there's to be families to all sides. He said that's a time to give
Starting point is 01:34:03 the attention because is the moment of the sermon, and he's a
Starting point is 01:34:09 little, he's a little in the extreme of the bank. It's
Starting point is 01:34:13 he's really to see a little bit of a year, she said about a seven,
Starting point is 01:34:19 eight years, very well bestidito, but it was a like a a
Starting point is 01:34:24 vestimenta, you know, very, very, very, very, very, a,
Starting point is 01:34:29 very, a little, and he called the question, says, a man,
Starting point is 01:34:33 says, it's of mal of education, to be going to be back in the
Starting point is 01:34:37 misa, all the or to the other, but I'm a lot of the question, he said,
Starting point is 01:34:43 because, well, it was a subrino, no, I don't know with who came. But,
Starting point is 01:34:48 well, there was the little the little all the times that one
Starting point is 01:34:51 he inca, he par, he does the pass, well, he was he was he was
Starting point is 01:34:56 he did the pass normal. Termino the misa, this he went, I said, I
Starting point is 01:35:05 Kise be with who he went. I said only there one entry and a idea of the
Starting point is 01:35:09 church. I said, I'm, I'm I'm with the familyaries. I was
Starting point is 01:35:14 waiting that's waiting. I said, in what moment he's but
Starting point is 01:35:20 I've made, I'm keeping that he was to see, to be
Starting point is 01:35:22 to see, I'm never he said, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm
Starting point is 01:35:29 the church, I'm the man, the father, and I was like apagando the belles
Starting point is 01:35:36 and say where's that's why don't he's a time he said he's he said
Starting point is 01:35:45 he said he he said he he said he said he said he said he because I he was
Starting point is 01:35:51 like the man he was he's he's I was I was I was I'm
Starting point is 01:35:56 I'm I'm talking I was with the family and we we're
Starting point is 01:36:02 we is the tio that he's that when you're to
Starting point is 01:36:05 remember it's it's inevitable not to make not
Starting point is 01:36:08 they're not they're they're they're in the photos and they're
Starting point is 01:36:13 to when the the little was the church
Starting point is 01:36:18 was that was there was a people and
Starting point is 01:36:23 they took a photo so like and I'm
Starting point is 01:36:28 there was when I said to my mom, that that's a see, a little, he said, he took a photo with the cellar and I go zoom.
Starting point is 01:36:42 He'll go, Moma, is he. It's the same that was in the misa. He says that his mom, he puts in a face like, like you
Starting point is 01:36:52 what you can't make, this photo was taken in the year 50, 1950. How you I'm gonna? Moma, is he.
Starting point is 01:37:01 It's that That's the same Ropa is he only that the photo is in black and
Starting point is 01:37:05 black and he said his mom he's kept serious so much like preoccupated
Starting point is 01:37:12 and thinking and say why what is that's that's that
Starting point is 01:37:18 and his mom after he said he he said that that
Starting point is 01:37:24 that's the that you've seen you've I see because
Starting point is 01:37:28 he's he he She said, she said, Pardon, that has been many years
Starting point is 01:37:34 had been an incendio into the church. Some bells, for some extraan
Starting point is 01:37:40 a reason, can and get them the mantel and all this. He said that that
Starting point is 01:37:48 was in that photo servia in that that eljando then to the sacerdote
Starting point is 01:37:55 and that this little he got trapped in the sacristia where
Starting point is 01:38:00 the incendi they said when when they're there's a lot
Starting point is 01:38:06 people started to puttas and cobetas of water some
Starting point is 01:38:12 some some they're still the the the of
Starting point is 01:38:15 the and much people so so I know so so so
Starting point is 01:38:19 it's preend all the bank so and when
Starting point is 01:38:24 they they they're they can calm the fire
Starting point is 01:38:28 they're only the world but it's a little
Starting point is 01:38:34 the the body of the little he's that's little
Starting point is 01:38:39 dark all dark and that's it was one of the
Starting point is 01:38:44 worst tragedies that had occurred in the people of
Starting point is 01:38:47 the the people and now I know that
Starting point is 01:38:51 this this man I know I think why still
Starting point is 01:38:54 I know the extrano and what the people mention is that there's been people that
Starting point is 01:39:01 has been in the past but it's that when they don't feel fear they feel
Starting point is 01:39:07 respect what you know is that is that they're always in misa
Starting point is 01:39:14 because always in not they don't know when the church is not
Starting point is 01:39:17 they're not when nothing in the mis in the mis then
Starting point is 01:39:23 they're not the little is in your case was to
Starting point is 01:39:28 say to say to the or to they're to have to them. And it's
Starting point is 01:39:33 a story that occurred in Hidalbo there's there information of that parroquia
Starting point is 01:39:39 me they're not not to not for questions for there
Starting point is 01:39:44 but that there has been people of the people that have been
Starting point is 01:39:47 there there there are much people that are that get to
Starting point is 01:39:53 fall to get to fallacy and and that's in the limbo, in the
Starting point is 01:39:57 famous limbo, no? And, and curiously, they're to come to a church,
Starting point is 01:40:04 to be they're for them. Always, this, this, this, this, I'm,
Starting point is 01:40:11 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, want, I'm,
Starting point is 01:40:15 I'm, in, in, in, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 01:40:21 the, are, the, two filos, or suced in this type of things
Starting point is 01:40:26 or in other type of things more negative but that has
Starting point is 01:40:31 to be with with persons physical. This story me took to me
Starting point is 01:40:38 into the seminar I I I did I did
Starting point is 01:40:42 all this that I I'm going to say it
Starting point is 01:40:45 I'm going to say but it's the church is
Starting point is 01:40:50 light or it's obscurity. So, you put to think to think
Starting point is 01:40:54 in that sense. I had a companyer of the seminary that's
Starting point is 01:40:59 called Jorge. Jorge, is like the majority of Mexicans
Starting point is 01:41:05 with a family dysfunctional no, the papas separated and
Starting point is 01:41:10 all this with an orientation to to be homosexual no,
Starting point is 01:41:16 that not have nothing but the church it has tach
Starting point is 01:41:20 like were the same demonio He decided to enter at the seminary. It was his first year of seminary. It's like when one initiates a career,
Starting point is 01:41:32 well, it's like with... With all, and he'ssuella and it's visualized being the best medical, in this case, the bestoradoad and all. Before to ingresser at the seminary, postean your photo in the reds social like, reces for this person that will enter to the seminary,
Starting point is 01:41:51 in that moment they begin to get many messages negative to get to this
Starting point is 01:41:57 person. Okay. I always have said that our pasto, no, no,
Starting point is 01:42:01 we have to have to that's there. Passed pasto, exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Just just, just about the present and the now. So,
Starting point is 01:42:09 no? But lastimusamently there was a child Carlos, that today
Starting point is 01:42:14 is a problem, and I say, because it was his preem to be the
Starting point is 01:42:18 he he was for his past and he he's to say to be
Starting point is 01:42:25 gay or you know but you but you're furs Firtes Firtes Firtes
Starting point is 01:42:32 Firtes Fertes And he yeah I was a targo that
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Starting point is 01:43:41 social no he quitable the and he was abentable
Starting point is 01:43:47 to the and go for your sapato and busal and all this this
Starting point is 01:43:54 person has this education and I think that is there I'm
Starting point is 01:43:59 he was educated I'm okay so I I'm
Starting point is 01:44:04 I'm I'm I'm I'm and I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:44:06 I'm I'm what was the point medular of all this. He was
Starting point is 01:44:12 a puino serrado like if it was a boxer we're in
Starting point is 01:44:20 a cell of studio and he's the father Carlos and
Starting point is 01:44:26 he he's to get to a costal like he
Starting point is 01:44:29 were a putting back no to to submit
Starting point is 01:44:34 it in the piece and to have the right
Starting point is 01:44:37 with the the, of the, of the, of the quellio, and sighinge'le, pegging in the head. Like, like a, a maniacic. The head, for supposed, he sangro.
Starting point is 01:44:50 He was to cry. Not? It was for for me, no? No? And I, and I, and I kept congelated. I don't knew what I said in that moment. Because you, you
Starting point is 01:45:01 says, a sacerdote, never's ever to put to get to someone, no? I mean, no? Yeah. It's a figure of authority. It's
Starting point is 01:45:10 a pastor. I'm a father I'm why he's this this was your
Starting point is 01:45:20 response impressive impressive I'm I'm I'm I'm trying to recover
Starting point is 01:45:25 the infancy that never took like like if the
Starting point is 01:45:30 things were in the remontal to the infancy that
Starting point is 01:45:34 that was that was that that was a the person Jorge obviously
Starting point is 01:45:40 was to a demand to a denonce the minister public the medical he said
Starting point is 01:45:45 he had a head of an error of a lot a year a lot he had to put them to
Starting point is 01:45:51 puttas no and he demanded the father but there no
Starting point is 01:45:56 for the cause when he he was to he said you
Starting point is 01:46:02 me you and I you me kept thinking I've got much
Starting point is 01:46:07 recorried in the seminary and I felt about three years to order and I'm
Starting point is 01:46:12 and I'm put the typical situation what would do Christ in these moments and he
Starting point is 01:46:21 I'm going to support because if something I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:46:27 I'm doing very present is I don't like the injustice and less
Starting point is 01:46:33 in an institution that was formed for person who no he
Starting point is 01:46:37 got in the injustices no he said I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:46:43 I'm I'm I'm a ministerial public that was
Starting point is 01:46:47 a a one a yearn's all this time
Starting point is 01:46:52 we did the life impossible no not they
Starting point is 01:46:54 don't they they're much cuchiche many many indirects
Starting point is 01:47:01 much false of respect until we we we
Starting point is 01:47:05 Obispo of Ascapoxalco. This succeeded in Ascapoxalco. Adolfo Miguel is the Obispo, he's the obispo. He said, sir, Ovispo, this is like. It's happening this. The Father Carlos
Starting point is 01:47:17 he pego a Jorge, he's a denunice. Here is what says the medical logista. No, is invento. Here is to. And he says,
Starting point is 01:47:26 you're doing a chism of the lavadero. They're they're going to want to. As Christ Aguant to
Starting point is 01:47:35 the cross. How you're so so so much and
Starting point is 01:47:39 and conclude the response that's a question but I'm the
Starting point is 01:47:44 expression but so he said textual but that it's
Starting point is 01:47:47 the that they're that they're that you're still
Starting point is 01:47:53 you're still you're that you're to ignore so
Starting point is 01:47:57 yeah you have to have to hang you
Starting point is 01:47:59 don't carry your cross exactly and and I and I
Starting point is 01:48:03 he I said Sir Adolfo If I go What's what? What's What? And he says It's a peccado No, you can't
Starting point is 01:48:11 Begare to me And he said But if a sacerdote He can be A man A student It's a
Starting point is 01:48:19 corrective It's a Corriguing Of his Faltas To me Me me
Starting point is 01:48:26 I'm Ammanas After To make the Denoncia Oh my The
Starting point is 01:48:33 I guess of Ascapoxalco me bulletin like if I were the the worst
Starting point is 01:48:38 of the world to Jorge had to he was to
Starting point is 01:48:44 he already is in Morelia living because also they
Starting point is 01:48:48 were they to his family the the the because
Starting point is 01:48:55 this we we're we we're so started a
Starting point is 01:48:58 persecution So, it's a persecution, and it's there where I'm question, the church is of light, or is of the obscurity? I'm going to terminate with a phrase that that all the time mention when I'm a question, Paco, this, crees in God, why not crees in God? Because, at times, this, in the church, and I always, I always will say,
Starting point is 01:49:25 the religion, and always the religion and the institutions led by the human eventually are corrupts
Starting point is 01:49:40 because it's the naturalness of the person human is corrupt not very very far very much
Starting point is 01:49:47 I've been very a little city that has much power money, riches that the
Starting point is 01:49:56 majority of countries, a little city. And I have talked
Starting point is 01:50:01 many times when the anterior papa was in millions
Starting point is 01:50:07 of luxus quantity of joys and a lot of things to say
Starting point is 01:50:12 we're to ask for the children who are going
Starting point is 01:50:15 to do more. It's made something so incongruent
Starting point is 01:50:21 and I always I don't, me I feel better than nobody and if I do you
Starting point is 01:50:25 do with the humilded but if we have a little little fraction of the
Starting point is 01:50:33 light have to share that and if you can help to your brother
Starting point is 01:50:37 to to run to the end of the eyes to do it
Starting point is 01:50:42 because is what that both both both as the
Starting point is 01:50:46 demonio and like the elite in general want to
Starting point is 01:50:50 have to all, submissos, callados, vendados. That bean, oregon,
Starting point is 01:50:58 and call in. And, of the really, Osvaldo, I want to thank you thank you, we're
Starting point is 01:51:05 we're going the pain every second of this podcast. I'm a past incredible. How did it do you
Starting point is 01:51:12 know, give, I'm, I'm, the stories that you have been the stories that
Starting point is 01:51:17 you're some are to to put to think that we are invoking
Starting point is 01:51:24 in what we're in what you do you say because a me too you're saying you perciges
Starting point is 01:51:30 to the church no I'm still being Catholic I'm going to go
Starting point is 01:51:35 and I the only I'm the injustice that's the church and and I
Starting point is 01:51:40 always I'm to be to be where stay so
Starting point is 01:51:45 so so I'm I'm would say not put your faith in the person, in the sacerdote, in the Papa.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Pongan their faith in Christ, in God. So, and list. They are those that are to get to a reign. The humans are imperfectos and we commit many errors. It's our proper
Starting point is 01:52:07 naturalness. Osvaldo, before you know, our social, for favor? My redes social of the podcast are invited to the
Starting point is 01:52:15 disconocid. There we can find in all the platforms digital. and my Instagram, where I'm also present, is Osvaldo Torres Ote.
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Starting point is 01:52:32 more important than what what they're here. Obviously, this, we need to do it in
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Starting point is 01:52:52 story that you can't find even in the period and this
Starting point is 01:52:57 and this did my friend. I'm I conviv with him
Starting point is 01:53:02 and I know the history of a case. Osval
Starting point is 01:53:06 much thanks family before also to get to you,
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