EXTRA ANORMAL - EL TAROT NO MIENTE: Lo Que Revelaron Las Cartas Nos Dejó Fríos | NoEsNormal.Tv

Episode Date: July 6, 2025

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with all of you The fact you know, I love this format where we can talk to form, well,

I feel more personal with all of you with all the family of the podcast. I think have you have seen the

title, you've seen the title of this transmission. I know many

are there lecture of random, well, you know they're going to be and not

more and nothing less that I did it in the grabation we've to have

a master of this time. The theme of tarot is fascinating. There are many times

that are around of the tarot. There are many myths, there many vertientes that are

things bad, of things bad, of things negative, of positive. But in this in vivo,

I think they're going to clarify many, many questions, because if we're a invitation, a sacerdotice Uika, that I've said much to say, to talk with her, is a cate dra for me. I'm a friend. I'm a friend. I'm

sent in pañal when I talk with this person. But, before, let's want to present the introduction of this night. Adelante, for For a production. Since times

immemorials, the tarot has been considered much more than a game or a instrument of

for some it's only a barraja illustrated, but for others it's a portal to the

disconocid. They're that every card has a life proper, that can susurrars

secretos, advertencies, even to bring doors that maybe never

never were But what are What is the tarot? It's only an instrument psychological or really connect with forces more than our comprehension?

There are entities that can manifestarse a through it? What can't when a lecture is all? This night, we're not

normal? We're going to gore the velo of the mystery and submerging us in the tarot as never before you've

heard. Prepare. Because You start to see the cards, Yeah no there's back back.

As you've done to do the family, this is what we're going to talk about. And, well,

today we know more and less than a great a great friend, the Bruch

Patty Jull. How are you? Very well, thank to be very contented to be here with you

and I'm happy of this dynamic, the is new for me. But I

love the contact with the people. I I mean to work directly.

The really, thanks before for accept the invitation. I'm

when we did when we're doing when we're on the exclusive also.

Escuched your anecdot are of other level. Are things that I,

I normally I say to the people, I'm going to tell a something that I'm

going to say that I'm no, I'm don't know to do you

with It doesn't function, because you, you you, you tryes stories and anecdotas that, of really, my stories are short with the things that you

have lived, with the things that you have talked to work, with the people, over the people, so, that's really are experiences

of other level, so are things that don't have a number, contigo, I've learned, that an marre can be the

more sinister possible when you told us that's the anecdote that is, no, with an infant, so,

so, are things super, super-powerososos. I see that you have seen much people with

the family of the podcast of the normal, with the family also of

stories enbruchated with the good Antonio Samudio. For the people

that's coming to first me I'd you're to do you do you

and your and your social and your social and our media we're doing we're starting

in redes for favor, thank us patience we have two three things but

always with much and much good. And who am I'm Patricia

Lara I'm a sacerdotisa of Magia Wica and I'm tarotista. I've started the tarot from 15 years. I've more than 35 years as tarotista. Also do courses and

I've always I've worked with my patients in a job direct. It's a little time that I've worked in line, distance, but all my life was

a work personal all the days So, from a Saturday and all my life. So, never I've

dedicated to other other thing. I think in the magic and that were the

curses were the were the medics, the guides, the maestras, the friends of

the community to who acutian for sanation, for a cause for a

support. And under this philosophy I've regido, for

so I have many stories. is that are much of the experiences that you have to talk about the thing that we're going to

talk about this night the topic I've talked about other times with with great friends that we've visited also of the city of Mexico

with persons that have even I don't know this great fascination or this great fascination or love

to the theme of tarot all the magic the esoteric there are many doubts that are going on

there also people of the family of the us some questions for you. If you'd like to also give us your questions,

not you'd forget to say to us in Instagram because there we publicam the day Saturdays when we have invited the cajita for that you'd like to ask you to asker to

our invite. For there the people we'd have some questions for because, well, it's a, a, um, a time that

not is a cent. There's a lot out of these things that say in things interesting, but there really also

at the same time little bit information available of all the world magical,

over the world of the Wica. But we to talk to the Tarot. Patty

me made a lecture of tarot and you want to thank you thank you for, for

doing it was a certain me helped me helped much to make

clear certain things that well as people we have

these these travas or these stankment or these situations that come to

tormentor your present and it's good top us with people like you that more

a person a woman is a master a guide a guide that you talk us a

talk about how has been your experience with the tarot as you I said

to read the tarot very I'm I can say that the tarot

always has been very very I was a little, I took contact with amistades, people sergana,

that leigh in the tarot. Of actually, I went or, I, I, knew the magic

Uika, for a friend, a becina, that she was a witch wika. And she

read the tarot in the passage esoteric there in the D.F. In the Galeria

of the Strelia, I. Okay. I, I was in that time, was a little, and it was more great than I. And,

and I was always my life has been in the middle of the magic. And there we started to have contact with the tarot. I can't say that from the minute one, I saw the cards, and, well,

I was understand. But, I've always had been, like, a ethic very firm. So, I started to study and addentar me

and from, what I can't say, minute two of that I took a tarot in

my hands I'm and I'm to learn for other people. And I was a

a child of 15, 16 years working on the passage esoterico where the other

tarotistas were getting clientes and from me the people was

for me the I think it's a faculty that You know, but also I'm sure that it's Conocimient. You can't share a faculty very developed, but if not studies, if not you capacitas, it's going to be

in that, in a faculty. And when you study, you're a design, and practices you're perfection, no? And that's what what happened with me. I started to read the tarot. And as always I've

had people that have interested and that has done very my

lecture, then you do you do you do you do you do you do you

do? Yes. What pass? Me recommendas. So so I

made of my patients with any publicity without was

to let and that person me recommend with two, those two,

with and so and for so never I've had the necessity to make a

publicity my lecture my lecture always has been a very personal

if I studied I studied all the theory but more the development

that I have been for the experience I can say that I I've said

I started to read the tarot and all the days minimum

me I did three four lectures diaries Wow. Multiplyleys for six days of the

semester. Multiplyleys for 35 years. No, so it's much. No, and I, and, and, I,

I know, of five years, that had seven years, that not four lectures, that I did to do

eight lectures, 10 lectures diaries. It's a lot of, it's very very, it's very

and can't because energetically it's it's a because

not it not is only a lecture it's an intuition, it's an interpretation

the tarot has his own and we're not we're

we're not but like all interpretation every kind

does their proper form no I'm I'm I'm

with the sason of the kitchen to who who's

who's a little food and who doesn't the same recipe no he

doesn't because because in the magic we all we have our own

our I fortunately I've my way a little and actually and

I never I never I never I found I found I found the tarot

I found the magic and never I moved and I always

I I've been I've been doubts and in some I'm there's

but I can say that my doubts were resolving conformed

conformed the work daily no all the experiences

were for the work not all my patients me

have been my my myester 100 fient fient fiat

that right we're we we're we're we're we're

going to start comment with all you because there are many

things pendientes and doubts that are around of the tarot. Of

actually I would like that you for you a person a person

that has a lot that has a lot we're going to be going to start in

this moment starting with the time. For here

there is a question because if it's very interesting the

question because says have received messages in a lecture of tarot that preferiste not to share with the consultant

and why? Yes, much. It's more, I can say, the majority of times when, I

think, and I'm going to say asheurant, the majority of tarotists, we know things that

don't you want to or expressar. But there is where there is where it is where

Why? Because not only is the knowledge of the tarot but the knowledge of you as a person is to be able to your patients. I, in my courses, I'll say much to my students,

more than to interpreter a tarot, you have to learn to the people, to learn to the patients. Because if there's a person, and this was a

case. Okay. I can't talk. Adelante, Adelante. Dando courses,

no, I go a person that from from the minute one no, I

didn't get to learn, you know? Because it's like when you have a childecent that is

very intelligent and the papas we, no? And so I'm, to contradicts all,

to want to say all, I'm, well, okay, no, I'm much of

I have a character libyan. Okay. Termina the course and I saw many many

those, much in his form to learn. Because, because, because all having such

sobrivia and so ego, what you do is guide, is mandar. And a patient,

what the less needs is that you do you do you say,

oh, you're you, This is so and so no. The interpretation

of the tarot should be to be to be a mutual. I'll say it's

like you know you have you have you have to respect then you

think to think first in the other person before in you

and the experience was that was that was very good tarotist

and I said take care with the people because

you know you know what they're and they're always they're a papach or a guide

we know we'll let us because we're because you're because you like to

go to do a do and what what you and he says to this

he'll get a man he's he was a pretty of character

read and he and he he says your husband you're putting

the question the next the the the two days to look her for complice

of ascena the man imagine and there was in investigation because

not was not in his lecture in what was wrong in his interpretation of the

actions okay you you can say the word always you can

say the but there are forms and there are there some

one is guide and other and other thing is to work with your ego.

And as as we can get much in that. So, so I have had been

many times where I preferer or I prefer it or I have wanted

to get me call but I think that in this point I have

the pericy to know when, how and to what person

to say it. There a situation because a this

he passed to a person that I'm talking about it's a

woman and I would like to know you what do you do you in that

case because a woman consulta to know to know if they are

to know she but her but her is there is present in the

lecture so how you manage in this aspect

there there there there there one of one of

my protocols of ethics is if I'm to read to you you get a

so, so so your alma your your your little little

their yeah because there there are people that are the

tarot or any other other of adivination as kind of

manipulation the women are we are very manipulators because

because all not having force physical we We have to have force

intellectual and and of other form to have that and we're manipulators. When it gets

to be so and I do the lecture is personal, for favor the other person is to get

out and is to talk to now. Also, the majority of people

is going to listen what I hear. Exactly. Not what what

I want to hear and yeah there's chis no? It's that here

it's your fault to be to be over to barrage no no

so it's much because we're to get to get to the

justification my bad habits my my bad decisions

put the put the and not in other side and

not in I I have to change something

so a tarot, also is adivination. No predice the future.

All everyone want to read the tarot when they give the response to

your and it not so. The tarot not you do the task. You know,

to you know, for that you do do you do not. Now, the tarot

also to say what you want to do you want to do you do you

want to do what you need. That It's very when we

see this side because many people people are really consoling

but to hear what they said to say my abuelita what

then that is the question no I want to I'm asking if this

is an in-vib or is something in this moment we are completely

in-v in-vib are the 6-36 of the time of the city

of Mexico so we are we're completely in because and

also are They're asking if there will be Lecture of Tarot? Sure, that's there will be a lecture

of tarot by here they're prepared to the cards because in a moment Patty will

be going to be able to get people at a azar in the comments oh-o because

they'll and then they'll be to do it not, no, no, no it's just can't have

somebody someone who don't and someone that then you know then we know we

don't know we're in any moment so family you know that part then

Succeed. Look, I want to hear a comment that we've got to get a badman that's

a little from the podcast. I'm going to talk about my top test of podcast of

terror. Podcasts of terror. Thank you thank you a manned a great a brother.

There's a time that we're talking we're talking after a rato and even there

saw a question of the audience that said no, no, not learn

the tarot because you're going to open the portal, that I don't know what, that's

that's what you're to be demonios to get to get to get to that's

because of there's really this thing, no? That's you're

contacting with demons, that's the other and these things. I mean, it's a

thing, but well, I'm going to try to to cut me. To start

to start to open an portal or a energetical, no is

so simple, depending what is your purpose. It has a

hour specific, a lunation specific for that that would that that

should that also you as you, as a man, bruch

you, you have a capacity important and that your purpose

be that that not we don't we don't that

The purpose. The purpose of the Tarot is a guide, is a interpretation, no? No, no can't open portals. They're able canals of communication energetic. Canals.

No, portals. Magos of the history have dedicated their life to communicate with entities of very high frequency or very a high frequency and they've gone

of this plan of without it's not okay no I'm

we're we're we're but but I think that much a much

no okay one a lecture a other another now

no no you could you could have a channel

and back a chat so so can no

so can okay no arcano major is a key energetic and you can't manipulate the energy

no no entities okay is very different is very different to work with the energy we're going to suppose of the love that back to the deities

of the love is very different okay no the tarot for more that you do you do not you can't do you know you can't do that you do you

do a ritual enfocated for that for equivocation no suede

okay well there's the answer because much people think or has

that form not to think that you you can be you're

you know that type of things not because the tarot

no no is a vincul to entities we

let say the tarot you inform okay okay

okay that good a response to patty. There's a question that we've done for here, because it says, has seen fear or a presence oscura during a lecture of

tarot? And how do you manage you in the case of that if you had seen that type of situations? No, I am I, with the tarot, no. Okay. With the tarot, no. With the patient, yes. With the person,

yes. We can't talk to some anecdotes, that you have seen, of those Well, yes me rio because it was

a situation strange no I'm I'm I'm my consultorio

and my tienda daba the okay or so they could enter

to the person I remember that I remember that in my mess painting

some runas precisely in some in a one a person

a a man a and my body I put

chinita and me gave fear but just not more the middle of my world.

It was very chisdos because only my my side was crisped

like a cato and I no I didn't have been the tarot if it was

the person and I get to ask for some incisos to ask to

he goes to he gets the he's he's he's he's he

has a time and The other thing, that day I had Destinated, that day I was To do my Chavagos with the Piedras. Uh-huh. And

I, I never romp my my, my proposit and I said, well, I'll,

a leo, a lecture. Well, leah me, si, you know. And I started to

have to be fear, I'm to have to have angustia, and I got to

start me, and I began to think it has been the lecture more

rapid that I've had been in the life no I got my

tarot and I'm so that's so that so that there's there's bye

no so I so I let me me took my time me

I like this this about there there there there

there the the lecture is beautiful is personal

and a point of you should be to

get in your memory for years Because it should be before

of and after and because that is that is the purpose of a

guide spiritual and that that I was all and was the

the lecture more rapid pass act the she par

and he he he he he cobre and

he he he I don't I don't I don't I don't change

And me And I said How do Like I'm I mean So I'm Yeah, but I'm

To go to To change No no No no That can So no My other My other

My other My other My other Mugra And I'm So I So No

No No Ui I'm No Because it I'm I'm

No, no, no. No. My intuition me said that there's been a person that's been very special

in my life. All the lecture was referred to me with him. And I

I was because I never me relationed but always I'm okay.

I'm many years after if I had taken you the time

the taron me had had That that relation, because this was a relation with him, was one of the ruptures most dolorous in my life. Me has given, me gave me fear the tarot. Yes, in that moment, because no, no, I don't know I'd identify it.

No, no, but not for the tarot. The tarot, the tarot, lo, lo, do you know, I don't know what's up to interpret. You don't interpretast. I mean, here's there's there's when we

did we go to a Guadahara we're talking with tarotistas with persons that manage also this theme of

the tarot and to learn to the person there was a brao with that I was

talking that I'm that's that it's well it sounds shistoso but it

is a but it really a man to let the cards this woman

suffered a type of a type of a maltrap every time all the time all the days

um amazas even of to desivir this piscimo maltrapto

in all sense but very very feo and she came to I

he had the tarot and always was the was the was he was

a time he said I like I was like I I mean, you know,

you know, you know, if in that time, no, you know, you're at a person,

until the end, he said, no, is that he will be to change, is that, this,

I know, I know, I can't change, and this and the other. So, she said,

no, is that here, it's that you're saying the that's, that if

you know, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you're, you,

And she, no, is that something should be bad, that I see what, for not to make the long, she simply a day he gave

the news because it was a news that was all parts of Guadahara for how they found the body

of that woman. And when she saw the news, the periodical, see the photography. The rostro of

that woman was destroyed. And she said, I, I'm, I said, because I

did, many times and no he's not he's not he

he's he said, and I was his rostro there's his rostro there's a lot of

many parts. It's something very very very, very very and that

type of cases when you say they're saying for the people a little

chistos because they're they're doing the contrary of what

they're to but really is really lamentable all that.

Well, my philosophy and my point of view, is that the only the only

do you your destiny is you. You can't read the tarot or can be

to be the the world of the universe and say this is

this is for here and but if you don't do you have

understood, if you you don't you have introjected you

don't you're going to have there They're seeing a point and signal what

says the tarot. All those extremes are bados. Yes. The tarot should and you

have to it's very beautiful and is very delicate at the time to learn

the tarot. Okay. Because there are times that we're tarotistas that we

don't we're not enough soficient prepared not spiritually but sometimes psychological or

even intellectually and there are people who are to learn to know what do that I'm that's not that's

you have to take your decisions at the maybe the tarot you're going to give a but the

decisions are your and at assuming the consequences of your decisions also

the tarot that Use a spejo only. It's a interpretation. And they've

to have much care of who they're what if you say you're with a

person who don't have the preparation adequate? To start

you can guide to you can another example a tarotista

a amiga my great very good very very

until that she divorce because they're they're they're

in the depression, she's in the world, and then a pair that had

to get to be a couple that was a separate. But because

you had that had she was negative she? She

she had all she was she was to you're to tryionar

is is that all the man, was, he projected. So, and then at

the most, parkehs that with a good Gia, would have had been

had been a whole, no, had no had any problem, they were with

problems. But for that influence of her. And, and I could say,

she never knew that was not or that was not enfocated or that was doing

doing doing simply, simply reflected his enojo with the

men is so until that he started one to have problems one to another

another other to do that that's that's that's that's bad

not I'm not there never I'm imagine you know you just that

you're that you are looking that you that's that help that you and for

problems too you have traversed you're you're you've got a relation probably

very good and result that she she has I always I've said the magic is congruency

100 if you you're going to learn to get a a process magical it's more

a purification with a web with a ram fichens that the person that

you're that's being that is a equilibriumed I've encountered

with people that are very bad because is that

me a ritual and result that the person that me he said was alcoholized no manches

how you how you're no no no how you no no how you no

no so imagine no now you know you you're and you

you're going to learn with a person that you're destroyed how

how you're how you're not how a child so congruente

100 100 no you to to help someone to have

to have a economic or to have the vision, this business will work when the person

that's reading, no doesn't, is that is correcting a lecture?

That is the question. Those are those foquitos that the people, the family

of the podcast should when look at this type of situations.

Dice for there the Miga Men Rincor Mors

Imagine there. There other question that for here

is one one well, yeah we're we're we're in direct

because it's not the other about and you know this

this question is very good because is what is the

more retors that that that someone has said you

do you know the most strange because because I

don't I talked with Pati and is that

I think the thing of the lectures and and all

and you say there's that people that question that's a lot not a

thing of your life or of the creation of the cresimential not

but they're more to things not so so that

banal and and that you good that you know

then then the tarot is personal. When I go, the tarot is personal is, I'm going to read to you about your life. And then they're, oh, yeah, and I want to know,

and I'm, no, and they're going to ask for the prima, for the tia, for the becina, for the gyrno, is that my this is, they're not going to perengano and I want, no. But it's that no not I'm going to, you're going to

be going to be, no? those things to me don't because it's to bring the libriot

of every and the tarot also is for that not it doesn't do you

need to what is what is what I have asked and I when I

I was I was I was very chavita and although you

don't think you I'm so I'm too I'm so I am

timid and I am of nucleus chiquitos, no? I like much, yeah, the interaction with the people, but nucleus chiquet. So, when I started the

tarot, my videncia personal, more apart, the development with the tarot, well, has permitted, thener profundity psychica. And at the principle, I was saying, I had I, 15 years, no,

I mean I asked that I don't I don't I don't understand

that are like for manipulation okay no for example

I'm I'm a company I want I know if the

director has this and I sold all the sop and

then I then I was ascending how politically said and

for there lean the part of the war no that the

information has the power that's indirectly I used I used to many

people to give all the information if you you say you you're more retortcid

so that that's that type of people that uses the information

to to grow to not meritoria no me passed

between what you can you can say the 17 and

the 20 years Okay. With the time, the Trato, with the same work,

the maturice personal, situations of life, I'm maturating, I'm and I'm no I'm

know I'm until I'm to tell you and if me questions no. Okay. No,

no. For that they're going to be formularing the question because, let me,

let me, let me, let me three examples patty, of questions or of consults

that no, that you that would that no day in this night, that they're going to ask for a third.

You're going to ask a question of you. Okay. That's one. A me no, I mean, I don't like

to ask, and not is that I'm like, and it's legal, no it's good. Imagineate to ask for

the soggra, no, you're going to you're going to tell of things that need to compete, no,

not more, the majority of the people that they're morebo. Okay. No?

And that part if I do it I think the lecture is for you and tantan no,

is that my sobrina me said that I'm that's a that's here in front no

me has passed. It's that it's that because he he's a a Saturday oh no

important look, I'm a good good I'm a because I think you I think

we're that all those doubts and you need a guy personal not for

the thirders. Another thing that I do with the tarot is that they're

to use for obtain information and do you can put an example

of that? What what is, me has passed no, of,

oh, I'm I'm in the media political. No? And

I want to know if my contraincante has has such and

such and the effects. Ah, Oh, so, to kemarl it,

or in question of a or in question of a question of no. My

company is to do do make years do you tell me if I do the

plierras that's perengano I'm vending more let us let us okay

yeah yeah I think there there's and is more so

they're specifican and and they perfection in this

type of lectures. A me no I like. Okay. For there, we're doing with the audio, for favor?

For favor? Well, well, you know, those they're doing with the audio,

for Fis? Thank you. Thank you. One, no, I don't like, this,

this, this is a realal, no, and it's me has to do the task to

the other and that no, no, no, no, there should the

thing, it's yeah, yeah, practically like it's, you know

there's a a practice of a good fair, I mean there's really a mal intention

behind that's that's a very feo that. And holy, you know, it's if we do you

a little to say? Uh, a very, in this moment, we're going to ask to

the audience what is what we have to do? It's a name complete. Uh-huh.

And so the question. No. The Rece of Nacimind, no? No. No, no. So, the number complete, and

your question. We're going to give 10 seconds. We're going to do 10 seconds. And here I have the control magical of the commentaries for, parr. And in some moment, we're going to do. There, look, this, Pat,

yeah. Oh, go ahead. Let's make a noteation. Okay. It's the first that I do so. I think you I'll commente. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, no? So, yeah, yeah. So, yeah. Because, for me, the tarot is a A medium of adivination, a

vincal very beautiful, very important and very transcendental. Imagine that in the

antiqued, the tarot only was to the reels, to the noblesa. To the

noblesa. And it was for the mandatarios. Uh-huh. Okay. The lecture has

to be in secrecy. Ah, so we're almost three thousand people right. So,

so, we're going to do. I'm like the inclusive to romper my

propios, my my own, my that you have been taught

much. No? Because much time I said only I did I have to

work a level personal. And you you're They've taught them that not, that to be able us is good. And I'd like that with this interaction that we're going to do, well, the majority of your followers,

understand that one, is of confidence. Okay. Two, is to a profundity. Yeah. And three, the tarotista, always has to be grateful with your patient. Why have to be I'm grateful with my patients? In this moment, more than 3,000.

Because I'm giving the opportunity to be the more profound of you're in this moment of the life, of the society, the that you guys confiens,

is a treasure. Okay. I mean, imagine what is that someone that you know knows, you let me permit to let's etchars a clavado in your

life. Is that is to open the door, no? Exactly. So,

I always culmined my lecture of Tadon and those who have read with me know that

and I always I always do from the because really is that. You're

are you're getting your confidence. Sure. The chat has been loco.

You know, do you start if we're going? We're going to tell And I'm going to

parer the chat because if look there's you know you're saying you're saying

one two three four five six seven seven eight

nine and ten a very there there's you're selected or no says

Brian Olivares I'llibre I'llibre I'llibre from 29 of November ah ching

yeah ragando, but there, there you've seen the data. Preguntas if will be a

proper your business. We'll do you do you know, they're

doing so thank thank you. Look, you're very dodoos and you

have many doubts because you much fear. Abla

of that you have got to and you have sentiments encountered but

I would you recommend so when? When when

you to to take the control. If, for some circumstances, you don't have the control at

100% economic, physical, is saying, you are going to be there, you will be able to do, not do you do because it

is going to work, but it will coster much a job and no it has that you can't do you can't

do you, when you have all the control, and, in actually, I can say that it

It's a little because you have felt a little more of experience. To have a business or open a

business, you have to have a mentality of one of a chief of So I

the and two of I don't I'm Rindo. If not you're in that

mentality, still not. Okay, much thanks, Pati. There you

for the good Brian. I hope you Look, the comments and they kept so,

they're going to be so many locus, because the fact is that many people have many doubts,

has many many, uh, well, yeah, so these, these, these,

these, these, these, forms of saying, I'm afraid, I'm, I'm,

I'm, something, it's a fact, for that I do a lot, because I'm not I'm

to know to the disconocid, because I know that me depar the destiny. And I,

I, I, I, in those sapato or I am also in those

the I'm going in the spiritual me have passed that I'm that even

I think what you do you do you do you do you have seen and for

example the example that we have been right and he says well he

said this this what I'm I'm Ivient and fracacacac

is is good or is malo well it's at final

he you know, exactly. The apprenticeship. Exactly. I Jolet. Yeah,

you know, you know, you know, you're going to do that the answer. The tarot you go

and you go and in the life never you're because all the experience

that has been a experience, it's a more so, and then so you

can't, because the people, the things, you because you needed that experience

because when when you the day of the day of you're going to commit errors.

100. 100%. Uh, oh, look, there's much people and they're

they're on, they're they're seeing enviando. Look, there, this,

this, I just, I know I'm going to asker, but I think to do this for you, and tell me

if we we can't say to her. Yeah. Ah, yeah. Okay. Yeah,

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I'm going to be a, I'm going to be a nervous, what nervous, what nervous. You've seen how

the tarot not more is um is a a is a thing

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is the brujury has symptoms so all the women

we have symptoms when there and over the fertility

sub so subes of the lows of the

person and there depression a a cansan extreme, is

agotamint. When there are brujeria, no you can't have order in your house. No you can't have order in your life. And when there work of brujeria on the matrix, your

cycle, it's a change much, it's dolorous, and there, there symptoms like malolour, without motive

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said that you're going to you're to be to be that I'm so I

do you know that he really, so it's very beautiful no says

that's going to get to be to be to be I'm because

not I don't I'm in the tarot Bruchery fend here here

here that's good and what's that so my

my students of Tarot, this is an exercise very good. In the Tarot, we know there is that no there, and I am I'm seeing, there are types of brujeria that not the refrege to the Tarot.

So, how it's, how it's, you're trying? Asked some of yerbauna, with Ruda, after seven banos. Be to the

mar, pidae to the mother nature, the Dioza or in what you creas in the

aspect feminine. Pidele that clean and Pidele that new life in

you. And me about that if you you're going to get you're

wow, yeah? Salio it's the is the sun and it's like when God

says when God says, it's nothing for that's, it's nothing. this is for our

great thank you thank you it's very very beautiful no, see this type of

cases of people who have this type of problems that you're going to three four,

five, five, 10, 15 years, no, with this type of situations.

We, well, I personally with my wife, I'm also I'm

something that's going to pass on the years is complicated. It's a battle

very complicated. Look, the life is able to know, and there also, there are people

that are people that work much for a maternity and not it and not it will do, because

a sometimes, and also you also the life you say no. Because it's your

experience in this plan. And for much that you're, if you're, you preendas velas,

if you do you pares you're going to say, no. So, but that

is not to say you're going to get to live. Now, there are many

forms of to live a maternity. There are many times there's momas. Yes,

that's is certain. There are many, amigas of a momas since

momas. Yeah. So, a maternity is acunar, protect, curate, there,

there many forms of maternity. There is the then you like if

we're going to do you do you do this in this moment we're going to another again,

other time five seconds and we're to get a hazard because of I'm oh, for

favor you, but then the comments already even are so they're still

we're trying five seconds to be to tell patty one one

two three four five five here here I don't get a good in the

Caminole that I'm taking Me intuio that you Referees to the spiritual Liriana Marbet Gonzales I'm intuying that you

Referes to the community and that you think you DUDas Yes you have

because when one takes a way different to the that was has been most you're

you're you're you're you're many shocks emotional ideological

here here says it's doling much to take

the decision's the the the the question if

that's time that's time you make you and

if not it does let's let's let's also

also it can be in in the laboral and you have

you have many doubts you're you're playing with you're and you're going to

be very difficult that flueas another you're doing much that I recommend do you

do you don't you have to do you don't you need because to decide

right take take a time me say that the way is the

correct but no is the moment correct you have

time you take time okay Well, there Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, I can't to hear when you when they're the tarot.

I don't see. I feel beautiful also because it's an alivio for many people the fact of the fact

to know that he departs the or what areas, no, of opportunities exist in

the life proper? I have a question. A lot to the That we have our responses. In the

fond? No, in the conscient. Yes. And that one just is like confirm what you know what you see and you

or intuies? Sure. Okay. We're not. We're not really confusos and tendem much to

combine all with all. But in you, you know you know your way, you know

your questions and your intuition you're going to guide. Wow. Is that, I go, I mean, a bit of the thing he's the poor,

I mean, he doesn't want to and see, and a other intention, or she doesn't, that carasoned, or, how they want to say, but we know, we're a ferramos, a

way, to be a different, no? We're going to get to our family. Thanks for being with us others. We're going to

send a salute. In this moment, I'm going to Andrea Carolina Ruiz. Thank you. Thanks, thanks for to be with us.

I'm a little bit that I'd for the comments. That's good that you're going for here with us. Abrose.

I'm sorry to Cindy Calderon. Thanks for start with us to be a Perlareges who also Anna Karen

that also that also for Sol Lima that says hello Paco hello for my

good Lulup Petrosa how you an abracote Lulu thanks for to be here here with

us. Salos a Paquito and a patty. Thank you a brazo a brasote

and thanks for being to be us also. Also, also Paulo Ramirez says,

hello Paco. Saludos also Honduras. We have people of Honduras,

we know people of Chile. Ah, says Annie Ledesma cario from

Paris, France. Abrace a brother to the other side of the world,

thanks for us also. Also we to be a Miguel Angel Cruz,

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salutes from the United. Abrasote to the other side. Thanks, thanks for

start with us. Continuamus the family of the podcast also us for you,

Pati, for that that production is going preparing the questions of Instagram and in

this moment we're going to put one. Because the people have much doubts for you and

they want to ask you those questions and you could you could explain

the the deidat with the with the you know I'm I'm trying to imagine

that is with the you're what you work is with the triple Dioza

ohho no is Cate okay okay okay okay okay

oh oh no no is secate triple Dioza donceya mother

and Anciana is my My visualization of the Dioza and God-Creator. My visualization and my cosmovision magica is Dioza in unicida, which is, no is a-masculine,

not a Dioza-feminino, are a deus, a union perfect. And I've worked with the triplicide feminine, doncella, mother, and anciana, that is, we'll say, is my visualization of the three atapas of the

woman, don't she, mother and anciana in their different energies.

Okay. With what I'm doing, it's not it's correct to say work,

but with what energies I have communion, no? A time, the word

is a effort, and for me no is an effort. Okay. The

triple Dioza for me is my mother, hermada, a friend friender,

vision feminine and all what congeva the femininity so. So, so it's

my vision and is my form of, through what, of the four elements, the fire, air,

and water. If we we're we're not, the cosmos, the life, human,

the world is made of the four elements, well, five, that also,

that's the etter, the and it's how it's conformed all. And of

And of I go My concept of the Rueda of the year Isbats And Sabats Okay

I'm I don't I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

Imit to the Nature You can't You can't Can't Yes I

I'm Oh I I Vivi my Tapah Donseya

of a young-sita, before to have children, where my energy magic was of one my vision

of the world was another, my form to express my magic was of one.

Then I my magic was to change. My vision of the world, my

necessities were to change. My body came to change. And I

madurand and I madeurand and I madeurand, the doncella was vision of the woman,

wapa, bella, feminine, sensual, sexual, exuberant, the first,

the maternity, the stage of the luna where the women are the women are

complete, where all what we do we do we're doing, and already,

the at the age, age, no, we have we have a certain

risk of morde, I'm I'm But that's good, no? Yeah, I passed

those other two, I've been, yeah in me is included or is in me, the doncella,

is there to me, the mother, and right I'm trying of the Anciana. Okay.

Obio, my body was to change. Obio. My magic did you to change.

Yes. So, with what deidad with the natural and with the

triplicity of the of the Dioza Okay there's for those that they're

the question and the question and the thank you there's there other question

production that you have done there oh and it's it's certain

that the tarot with the astrology has more accertated the lectures

yes the tarot has there know chalitics cabalistic

numerological numerological intuitives and to psychologics. There psychologists that are you

are using the tarot as a medium with the patient it's very difficult

you get and you have to a capa with a person what I talked

and to open and to talk and the tarot is a very good

medium not for you are you but that you can be going

and you go and that those possibilities But,

yes, it's not that the tarot is that the tarot has that's complementing

more than no, the tarot has knowledge astrologicic numerological cabalistic

and esotericos one a cart has implemented those those elements

when you study tarot there you learnes of astrology

of numerology of the cycles of the life learn, is it has

it's many many questions okay it's like it's like a

matter that's component for different ramas also and that

so it is more complete okay thanks patty there another

question for there production for favor what is the

major reto of brujeria that have been the

major reto the I've confronted. Ihole. The major, is that

there are many. And is that you think your retos is to romper your own

your own, and my own, and my own limitations is to make magic

for the not for the other, but in benefit of someone that

not move a person who no? there is where for me it's the most complicated and in some moment

was the work that I did in the which more me applauded but more

me costed a family where they were being being very attacked with

and the she was in the major and the sir no and the limitable

economically so then she had not had then then then

then a way of to be there's more I'm I

don't make purifications very simple like like and

and put flowers put manzana pass a a incinso

no and she not didn't any that and

I I I went the hand the favor of I

did do rituals to do make and equilibrium,

even favorizing to the sir, that I don't to learn, you're

going to continue in the same way, but I can't get me quiet,

being like various chiquites. And, well, I did the did the task.

That's been a matter, because we have been a law and you can't

do you do you do you do you and a person. And in this

case, I always to start for the I. And I there's I chocked much with me

because I said oh, no. Yeah then I'm doing, well, it's talking, I'm, I'm and I

did. Okay. It's that is complicated when we know, when we know, when we're supposed,

where if is a little difficult to work with a certain type of people who are even

even, or are not so, not so, don't are But you're, like you said, not not for him, but for the little, for the people who are

who, at the final of the count, can't pay the plato rotos. How difficult is this type of situations? There's other question? Production?

Has done for you myself? If it's so, they've said, they've said, a very good question because I've heard of bruchas

that say, I mean, I'm not can't let or I'm going to go to other person that me lea. You, what

opinions of that? And, well, I'm going to tell something that never thought that I'm going to talk to. Oh, thanks. One, I

know I'm leo. Okay. I do. I don't understand that vision of and you, no you can't

read. The tarot is interpretation and you you, if you have the know, you can't

interpret it for you myself, no? I, I do do you do you do I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm talking about 20 years. I've the fortune of that

was very well from a little a little and then a young unmadura

me went back because I'm going to commit many errors not errors vivences

mal-pensated how to present the money or not to give the value to the economic, to let me

get me to be for the vanity physical, no? This, ah, you know, the gymnas, and a,

corpazzo and I always, I always me maintained and beautiful. And I

had many galannes. So, so that was retro-alimenting the ego, no? And it

was a point in that I was, I was sent me I was disviando of my

way okay no yeah it was a no because

I'm going to go I'm invited I'm invited and I go to and I

have my kids and I yeah I'm I'm I'm I'm

and I'm and in one occasion I always I've been like

to work in me and it was so not I'm I'm

I'm I'm just I was just leaving for the medium and for the

RID. I opened my Tarot and I did that I was never to lose

the relationship with my with my kids. We'd in the same

house but not they didn't I'm okay no and oh

many in this medium do we do so you you're your

life personal in pro of your or the laboral or spiritual. And

me dole much. Because if I'm my maternity, my children, when I did

know that I was I was going to know and that my relation with them

was I was I I'm and I self-califique and me served

because I think that as tarotista you're to be congruent

and parrenseco I did to get to get to get to make

a staria of cinema and he bagged five

and me enfoque in my house in my kids

and in my family so so you you

can you think no the difficult not is

learn you do do do is assume it

accept it also. Assumirlo. Assume it. Because inclusive, it's you can't have here and evadir. It's the most easy, evadir.

Is that, I go, we'll be able to the same that we're talking about us about that a ratho. No, the poor siko, that's the question. Thank you, Patti. There are more questions, production? The more, comfewima?

Ah, okay. Oh, oh, that no, I was never I don't know what I'd ever A podcast Extra-Nomal A 2.5 billion sculptors

to final to finalize the year Oh, I'm talking with tarot and tarot Let's use

the tarot Let's use the tarot That's, that's not I was ever Yeah I'm not at final

of year Okay It's like the first trimester of the next year

Okay But we let's Just that Just just to be No just to me

no at finales of this year no okay for the next okay oh no that's no that's

thank you thank you thank you thank you we're going to all the kilos because well it's

much work I'm talking I'm talking with Patti of questions laborals no me made

a lecture and so there's a there much I have a much work behind of... You want to

question and you answer, you do you the creator of your content and you know your

your inertia you're going to get? Yes, I will get but possibly this year no

like you like I am realista because there there are more projects and no I can't

I can't I can I can't a pack here another a little yeah

I try to be a lot. Of course I'm always I'm penient to and that's

all the same time me put like that well this is for this

no one a lecture to do you do that I'm with what you

know with what you don't, this year I'm going to give me going to do you

do you do you say no I think because my My negotiation, at the more

that's to live well, but not for that it's where a tarot

to talk to talk with the real, or they're manipulating. Okay. For that

so I'm okay, no, I do, I'm trying, I'm, I'm, I'm,

like, I'm, like, before, before I'm, I'm, I'm, I do,

but, I've seen my growth, analysis of the every six months

I'm doing so obviously obviously I plan to get to but like a

time in your moment Yeah, and the tarot was very tachante

me said no because the question literally was this year

he said no okay and for intuition but yeah for intuition

I think and for what I think I'm and for what me contested

the tarot that's for that did that first trimester First, First, God,

Proxima next year. There's a question, production? How many there? Quads

two questions. They're, they're putting very denses. How can, how can

how can the malditions generational? Oh, that's very simple. Okay.

All is a mind. Uh-huh. Sackal of your mind. So,

not just without a element Ritualty. Sackalo of your mind and exerce it in your

reality. Okay. This is Alta Magia. Yes. There is that practice

the Alta Magia and the majority they imagine Merlin no?

The doctor I mentioned about you know? Doctor Stress Andal different moons

no no the Alta Magia is to without with

your own your own your energy and the natural so

a maldiction generational for that functioned first you you have to give to that you

have to believe in it you okay no if you always you're saying

is that me always me they're consented so so is

that the universe you it's you know not it's no it's

so it's and you you you're you're creating. Sure.

Ah, is that in my family there's this maldition. For to start,

you have to feel it as a little like a maldition. How you can

feel? Well, in the diary to live. Families. Okay. There are

families. This is very common, eh? And just we only had like that

that difference of opinions with a He has, um, um, this, constellations familial. Okay.

Me, I said, is that the family of Fulanita, all the women have been momas solteras, and to all them have abandoned. No? And it's a maldition. Sure. Because from, from a marre, the tat-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a. And all right, all right, and all right, well. Povercito.

Oh, and those of here, what Culpate do you? And because all are destined to the soledat? It's a programation, and you do you give a force to that programation and you do you do a reason

to be a maldition. Okay. If for you, being a mother solterer is a maldition conceded, you're going to do you, you're going to

do you, you're going to sufferer. If for you, be a mother solterer, is a bendition, you

offer a liberty, you're to your and you're happy with with what you have you're

a mother and you're feeling a mom solterer. It's a maldition. Depend.

No is a maldiction if you live the life, you accept how it and you

do you do you you know? You elige? No? Okay. All we're repetim

patrons of suffering because is what you've what you You think you're And it's what

they've made to believe. Okay. No? A me people have Oh,

is that because you don't not I'm not going to the mother? That never me has

that's that I'm that's that's not, that's a lot. No, no,

no, no, I do you know, I goso. Malditions family are, how

they're not to believe in them and it's a ritual of the end of

cycle. In the Luna Menguant does a ritual of a final right

it's very very long but in my channel all the lunas I'mguantes

I do the ritual with my patients okay how is your channel Jul,

Magic and Begey Begey there is that is to do a end of a cycle

is to start with that that creencia and let you know you don't you

don't you don't you don't you wills to live okay I go

I mean a it's it seems it's we're in a box of no or we're

we're we're we're and the response the natural that does the

luna I'm you let's you're the moon commodin where you you can

do you the moon menguant is to destroy what you

what you what you do you of cigar from a mal patron of

I'm a love that I'm dole more than I do

do you do you want to the luna mingwant Luna Cresient

Cresimient It's to work to be creative no plan

planer planifical no Luna new commences I'm going to

start a new because if it's on luna menguant swel

Sure. I mean, it's that you have to have much, well, that's discernment, not to take in

account of those factors. But, but also also, you know, you know, you're going

to start a business in your time of your age? Sure. Or you're going

to plan you to the 60 years? Because the naturalness is a idea. We're

the energy, the mentality, the energy and all in their time. Planer

a child in your youth. Sure. Planer a negotiation

in your maturice and prepare the sale in the veges no?

But we are like incongruentes we want to we're in

in the society in in the in winter what we're the

festival the and what is in no we don't

we we In In the In winter Guardate You plan You live

Your duels Connoce The worst And in Primaver Gasta But so That's the

Reves Yeah It's It's a A question A question A question It's

A question Where we We've There Another Question Hasiel Okay

What What What What you Is it Is a Bruchah Wica

It's The The The The magic wika, much do you do in the Antigua religion, but in reality is very new. I'm about about 80 years, more or less than a prox.

Yes, yeah. The new form of to see the magic antiqua is. The magic wika is very eclectica, no? We can't do you. You can't do what you want, without any to anybody.

So, it's very limitant, but at a bit of a biter is very open, no? And it's like the naturalness, if it's an order, but in his disorder, no? And, well, to talk of Magia Wicca, we need to be

a program. It's that I was telling, I was I was reading, I was talking, I was reading the book of Magic Wicca. This is me makes very fascinating, very interesting. All the knowledge pre-Hispanic,

even, pre-historic, per-historic, that gase of the knowledge of the Wicca, until, I don't know, to the years of the

age media, where for many years it's been in occultism for the persecution and the right, all

the religions are very mestisadas. All. All. All. Yes, yeah

have been influence of others, because, because we are in a world that is globalized

and the religions and the philosophies not so they're not. I, you I always have

said that the Uika no is a religion, it's a philosophy. There's a kid

that's a religion, I'm respect. But for me is a philosophy and it's

a form to live. Of you're you're, no? If I would

be a sacerdotis or dedicate me to other thing in the there's

to be to get and so, no, it's no, it's like if

I were to be a Sanger and you dismayas, no? So, no?

So, not so it's a form of life. Okay. A form to be the world.

A philosophy. There is the response for who are those doubts. You know,

we're we're almost at the board of finalizing this in live, you think

if we do we're making some we're to do the audience you know, number

complete, sin, you know, and megrittas, since feces. And now I was I'm calabacian right that you're saying

first of November. Because I do you I'm not I'm not my patients. And it's

a notation that I want to make much care of all those those those

those different. It's a but you can't confiary yeah.

Sure. No? And, and no, and, don't, and don't, don't,

don't, don't, don't, they're diastra and sinestra. I mean they're in that part.

There are there are there are not all those who we're not we're not those who

we're and there are much magos with much much respect to a,

a his job to his philosophy of life but but also

there also not don't no they're so so

so so so number so so let's let's

to be we're to get more more more more. Look,

yeah, yeah, I know that for a car are going many, I know

that I'm going to many, oh, oh,le. To be, is that there's

there's many questions. We're to wait, yeah, yeah, the

people are going to three, Pati? One, two, three. Okay.

Dice Miguel Kruz, Nicholas. What How many I should take in my

life of my options to make to make in all the things

my style of the life me make make make sure

I'm I'm think you think you think it are like two

questions there what you let's take Patty those

okay okay let do you do do you don't you

do you do what you need what you need what you

to start the tarotists we've got to know who is parted from how how you

plan you your question okay no for so to you to do a little a little

so so he's he's he's rewold okay no ojo the

people we're we're we're we're we our and our

we do you you So, always have doubts, yes.

But, and we know when you're what I said I, of when I felt

that I didn't know, all we know, we're all you know, you know,

he's doing something that he's doing a future he's going to be going to

do and the economic. And me said that if you do you want to

do you but not in the personal. Okay. And he He does

You know. Yeah You understand your question? Well, why not in the

personal? There are people who do you do you need a much time to the

life and they are doing to work, and they're and they don't

the part emotional. So, so are rich without love. Okay.

Or there are people that they do a family, to And then you get to an

Adad Madura of Beg's and you know, what is the equilibrium, to work in all the areas trying to look the equilibrium. In the laboral, you're doing?

In the emotional, no. So, what do you say the tarot, literally? For one side, you're going to be a lot to

but for other other side, you're going to get the question. It's a media. I go,

it's very very well the response. It's very well. But I think is important not to present attention

those little little details that's the balance inclinate to one and it's also the other

side of that's good the way the way in mind that that other can affect these

other areas of your life. There you there's the response and say me,

thanks for learn me oh, my mano thank you to thank you for to leave your

question. This, look, the people still and keep on, keep on,

see, and we're if we're doing, if we're making, if we're a lot of

a lot of people, we're going to give five seconds for that the people start to get

to get a when we when we start when we when we start to get various,

various, various, various, various, various, comments. A let,

we're going to tell to three Pati. One, two, three. A

see. A- Dice Sonia Romero Sanchise. My family and I have closed the Caminos. A see, Sonia Romero

Sanchez. I mean, want a cathera or want a response direct? I, I don't know, if it's

the first, it's excellent. The, They're the way it's multifactorial.

Okay. They did a brujery and to start your way, we've

we've got to put the next ingredient. No? Me says that

if there are no, you know, you have a car car the way,

but for consequence of our consequences of those can't calificartes revisa

what you're doing well to obtain what result and that you're submitting

and it's for what I've got to make a movement here is generate a a

no well what is this if you you have a a tax full of

coffee then it not is you're not to if you you have in

your life can't never nothing is what you you have

to make to make to move vacillard. You have to move everything. In the

house, the major part of problems for the those that are the way of

there's because no that's that's a rote discomposed to go out.

Because if not it is tanker. All what is not is serving in your

life, sacal move the energy. It's much time. Much

time. Muchissimo But if can Okay. And, and over the

money, not is getting the money because it's all saturated. Okay.

The law of the vacio. All is saturated. Yeah. What is

when you have a campo and you are sembrated of maize that's in the

campesinos when they're they're they're they're they're that is to

that's a circle okay ripean the earth to give the nutrients and what do do they're

to see the cycle no because so they're not because never

you've got you've you've not prepared the earth to learn not you're not

you're not termed no no no serrastic so you don't you're stanked

with your literal the the basura of your cause okay is that

is that If it's, uh, if it's too good that did this the catherine, because of

it's necessary, no, understand, because only a response, so, if no, uh,

or no, for this reason, it's like, it's a we're doing a to us, we're doing, but more

uh, there's more questions, that this is a world, and if you're like I'm a person that I'm,

I'm, I'm overpience. And, and it's, uh, if you're done a ritual to be,

Camino, is going to do do you, do you do with this preending, like that

this will be going to a while because you're going to be stuck because not you

have done the process no has got your muggero no no has no has

not serrated the cycle and no you know that's okay is that when we

when it is that you do it is that you do it you know when they were

in the cartes you and no, but yeah when you have to do to do do the

task, then I'm there's, I'm doing. I'm okay. And me say,

Maistra, yeah, I did all what he said in one one of four,

no? No, no? And, and, I always this, if you

know, you're able to move your basurero physical, imagine the emotional.

Sure. Sure, no, no, no, you know, you're You don't you know, so what

And then what happens? Oh, and is that 1,554 me peggarer and I'm with that dolor. And if you're here full of and here

and here, I'm going to advance? Sure, no. You're stankation. You get to an estankment, auto-sabotero,

even. But if that's the cycle of every month, although you do it, to do it,

to get the muggero, what what will pass, because every month,

you're going to you're and when you know, you're just a form of

living. Okay. And no guard a recorres, and you fortaleces and energetically

you know you can't make your energy back, for the time, so if

they want to do what they want to never will be to be funionar. Okay.

It's that, I don't again, it's a very easy for you. The

actually the magic is, it's very natural. It's just to learn to breathe to do you. It's more

the life you know the response. How we're inhaled? Recives exhaler?

Dar so how is the life? Dar and receive? If you just inalas nothing

you want to receive you're you're to hogar nobody nobody can

receive nothing more jol is that there is the point

important all if if If nothing more you want to do and do,

and do, or you're going to you're going to and you're going and what will be going to you're going

to do you and you do you know, does one a little see? A bit, look,

I see there's a carita there's there's a person but yeah

it's going the commentary yeah yeah we're going to be to be

let's let's let's we're we're going to the ultimate lecture of the

we're going to to expect that the comments that more people in this moment is going

your name and your question. Look, de volada they're to reaction

the comments. A be, you me you say, Patia, you, you say, you're saying,

there's, there's, yeah? Yeah? Yeah. Okay. Dice Maria

Jose-Sanche Ramirez. What is the reason for the why I can't titular me

and find a question. Thank Maria Jose. A very

Patia he got to the cards correspondient and I'm

I'm to ask Maria Jose to what you

have you have a fear One, me is that exactly you have a

very profound and here I can't I can't you can you will to work on your

life. Something in Tito is saying that is your way and for what I

can because you don't have that impulse because you that's a legia for titulart and that ance of, I want to try to work in this. When we're doing something because we do something, it's open the doors. Because the natural is resonance. And the job that you elects and your titulation

is resonating with you. For that all of us iser. And you have to I'm atrebo I go, it's complicated because not I'd like

one, to say that not you desperes, two, me would be fatachartes, and three,

me would say you'd be able to find your way, but your way is spiritual.

Okay, the way, the way, is spiritual. I, is that I think, in those

cases, it's when you you say, you have the response, a

sometimes, no, or you see that response, but if is necessary to a

way, that someone or us say, in this in this way, in this

guide, no? Oh, so Farty, what Farty, yeah,

in this, in this there many, j' there's much mal information,

no? When you you try's the philosophy or you the vocation of a

kind of spiritual and we comment about for to start in much confusion because

there's always the doubt of the way of the way and then you're inculcant

much and then not all we're not all we're for us for to be

ritualists and all we don't we all we have our own specific

and is very specific and it's very too you So, if you You can't leave for what

it's for the and not you do you apply if you do you in any work to a

abogado. No, if an abogado is a quix and not will help and

not be going to and not prosperer. Okay. And then the natural says,

ah, you're an arbal of limones and you want to do manzana

where I'm No, I'm not going to nourish. Sure. And the arbor that no does fruit. No? So, what is what we have to do? Do you know what you

like? And when you start your work for the way you got to, nothing's going to trybar. The opportunities

are going to get solas. Acaba to have a response to this Cheka for you. Dice

Uh, uh, uh, much Thank you, Patty. It's what you say, and my core of your words.

Much of Mary Jose. Thank you for letting us your question and, really, of that's good is to hear

this type of messages that you're all the audience? How do you do you? Super. Much

thanks. My, I'm, they're doing much to grow to do you. Oh, no.

Thank you. I'm very introvertida and me agarro the ribozo and that. I'll Look, there's

A person That's putting many Many caritas Tristess I'm She'd For if

You'd I'm No, I No, I No see Yeah Almost we're Oh,

Look, That's good Question And This This is I'm I'm

I'm I'm And And how I I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm If you If you start to work in

the spiritual, with that purpose not going to work

because it's so. Okay. For that you can you can

help to someone has a person has has to give to

help. Two. No you can help to the humanity because

we're we're we're we're doing. The philosophy is I

as I'm as I'm going to do the more of me and if in my way I

can't do you do do I don't I can carry your problems

and I can't carry your because I'm also you're in the

same the same you so then we're so we're

in the way in the way the moment and the but you

can't you can't carry a person in the back. Because not you

would be the life and we have the capacity. Okay. So,

the the way spiritual or the philosophy of life to help to the

first you. I'm a better person and you do you do you

do you do you doves to let's let's we start

with we ourselves in house, also. Hohle, Pati.

What good charla you haven't you know, we're aventing much thanks for accept our

invitation. Patty, us visit us from very, very, very lehous. From a very, very

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want to thank you much for having been to come to to CPE, for to talk to

us, for accepting to us also, too, thank I appreciate Antonio

Samudio because thanks to We've known to you. We didn't also

continue to get the project of Antonio. Muchis a lot of. Abrass

to my friend of Alma. This, I'm I'm really much.

And, so, so much thanks, we did, I was I was,

I was, I was, I was, I was in times of production. I'm got to

listen to all the you got to and when when I went to quite

something was a second first I talked about you talking to

you're going to you're saying something I'm saying I'm saying I'm going never trying things that

not are his bolsa and me a book new, sealed, that was exactly

of what I was having broncos but me, me, me, me,

I gave much curiosity and me did you much the phrase. I'm never

coming things that not are for me because I had, I've had to

a little, was sealeditit was all take and me and I said, and

really, Pat, you want to thank you thank you very much for that it was

the book I'm that I'm and that I'm really, thank very much for, what I'm in.

And what I'm glad like, as I always say, if something we're

we do we do we do we do, some malo and also to all your audience and if no

then let them flowed. At final to tell the magic is that the magic is that

the magic is done of us me They say, you know, and I,

it's, um, I'm, I'm, I'm, know, I'm, know,

you know, not you know, but so you know, but so it's, and well, so,

so, there's, there's a very, very obscure, like, like it's like it's

but, but it's part of, it's part of the duality, no, patty, much thanks,

repitens before, just to give us your social, jul, magic,

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