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Episode Date: October 15, 2024

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that are there start to order to try to help her and in the moment in the that they they're

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one of the tendederos of rope and there was luna with a with an erida

that went from from the head from his stomago with all exposed.

This entity changed. A sometimes was a man a man

that was a person was a insect giant other other

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person was a man and tunic. In total, this entity, and so he was to know to David, said that he had 43

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I produce with all the carino of the criminally where we narramos these stories of

criminals reales only for supposed much thanks thank Fepo me complase to say

and I've been in the three projects that's managing and I'm thank you thank

much for the invitation and you know you know there's the

can't you you guys if you guys if you visit is that insomnia I love because this

to tell stories, is something that's a lot to know what the people that's over is living.

I always have here a phrase, what the people us tell, or what the people

and it's from the suns of the annumumat. Many times the people live many

many and I've done that we've found that we've been in a time of

my time I'm sorry but nobody nobody me will be to make a loco, they're

to think that I'm minty that I'm getting to some type of substance so I'm

so I'm so I'm so much that people that people that work in projects like the

you, and give voice, I think it's something that's something that the people

that's about what you live in the life real and that much many times the real

super a fiction. So, and also sometimes these, as, as as, as

like, they're there's there's there's there's Liberation. Exactly.

A through their story, not these experiences that for another other reason, a

sometimes for questions familiares that some may be involved in a problem of any

type, preferring to do it and so many times the names have changed have changed

but the stories are still to make fieles to, let us to the

things to the people, we're always, we always we always we can be

a question for A little, I'm I've done and I'm sure that it's sure that it's

people who send them these people who write in your case, I have noted

that the most very not came really of a story but of a

pediment to help help me Feppo or help me Paco I'm

living this and it being a story very sinister many

many many Help me, because I'm living this, my mom, my brother, my abuelita. And some things that, much times, I mean, me so cede much, that leading these stories, there are occasions where

I've been the time to do. And I've said many times in the madrugada. And a lot, I mean, I'm sure on the computer and we'll see them tomorrow that there's a little because something in the environment is to move. More than that it's a story real,

I feel when it's something very genuine because you're replicando and you're seeing what the person that you know what the person you know, when you asked, you know, if the person was thinking some type of fear, you, you know,

you know, you're seeing, in some way. No. See, that that part, I know, I know, I know, when the history no, when the story no, that is something that's experimenting and that, for suppose, to send an courier, not so,

for that you tell you the story, and more because they're they're in

a way, you know, they're doing and that sometimes is certain, a way, it's

not in all the, in all the cases is possible, but a sometimes is true,

that you can't help you can't help, and those cases that are incunclos,

many times me they're like, me, I'm quite, to what is what

is what going to and there other where the people have supered the

problem, the experience has some years and then they've been to talk to like that

other person could have to have a focus of attention in this type of details.

But, see, I don't I'm going to talk as a great rasgos because

this person me contacta me a man first a and then first me contact

a through and then this is a person very famous. I mean

literally Imagine, magic, I don't know this person like, car, car, because it's very famous. Okay. So, so, no, live in Mexico. We live in the States, you know? Yeah.

And I contacta, me said, oh, you know, you know, you know, we? We love much the content. What does? Etc. And we're trying to this. And it has to be with, well, with kids.

Okay. And I said, So, look, it might be a lot of things, no? But, um, because you're so sure that's so that's so

because we know, we know, we know, we know what was the and in the house,

we have a lot of cameras of security. Okay. And a day, that O'B

happened to do it, it was we got to do the cameras of security, and this is

what he was what he and he did you, what did you? It's like these videos

you've seen you've seen the video of the little bit of the little bit of a little bit of the camera

and it's like that's there down by the halla if I've seen videos so, okay it's super

inquietante to be that so, so so, so so, so, so, so,

so, and when it I was, me, me, me surprised me, and he said,

oh, but what you're doing to do, but what's we're saying, well, we're

we're not But? Or so, so, so, so I said, I said, but,

you think that could go, I'm going to go back? I said, yeah. Well,

yes, no is the house. It's other other thing, then, well,

acuade with these people that can help. Uh, no? But one

is very very nervous because you know really you're going to do to do

to do that's a point of a future in the and then a person

me He said that he did this, he did and all the way. And you're you're still you're still.

But, but meanwhile you're just kind of super nervous of what you can happen, you know,

I'm going to make sure to make my goal, we've got an episode in Serragal Rustus

about the cases fraudulentos of the Warren. Uh-huh. And I have to say

something, I mean, I mean, I'm kept with the movies, with the good stories,

the production, all. Okay. But the story detrace of if

I'm culled because you know something about it's a important, and for example

I remember much the case of the family perron that came and so it's all

a disaster or more to do that to do really is a disaster cabronsicissimo I think

I'd go to see this episode and sargan those because if we

have various cases that inspired the conjuro one the

the demon me me obligo me I'm I'm I'm I don't

recall what is but many the mona no? It's the fourth

movie that they're in they're in this is the mona even we're even we're

the reality of the reality of where is it's impressive because it's a

great responsibility to say to the people do this to do you

I wish I think you know I know you can't you're impossible no it

is impossible it's impossible but I mean at final I

cause a certain calm in what some people me You say, no, the

life to indicate what is what you have to do you know, and one try to help to the major

part of, well, a major quantity of people, lamentably notableablement not so

could, and I'm trying to do do a way. In fact, just, just,

just, just to get a person, and that's looking, it's not should be

in a channel of YouTube. Yeah, of YouTube, of any whatever platform,

to look there like this type of The help. If you can orientate but the

help to get to be to look at another other way. So, for that's there are

doctors, I'm psychologists, et cetera. And also people are people to get

to the situation spiritual. So, it can't be a temple near to

a church, a church. So, can't start for there.

But one has to do do you have to do you know, there is the temple

Tujara of Brazil where not is the not is that me have said, not of one

but in many many cases, because I commenced to recommend to a part of a case that I'm in Chile, and then another in Mexico,

and then various sercans, to the temple Tupyara, that are these doctors psychics, that they are in surgeries

spiritual, at the through different maestros and etc. Well, they know who are

who are we're not us, although we don't know who we're in because

we've made to many people that they can't that they're in a way the

people get looking that they're getting with us, we're recommend them with them

they're they're doing their work and then connect with people that they're

not going to say sanar because it's a word very great so.

So there there cases and this also important because so it's a reality.

There are cases where they say no I'm going to help you know, point.

And there cases where you say you're going to you're going to do more to be more to be much

but... That's very, but we can't extend a little more your life and also

you can you can't you're not these situations that terrible that for the little time

that you will be to be a time to be a time to do you your

family as well. As kind of they're doing and I'm very interesting but it's very bad

that they know who they're not only with the affand to help that's great that's good

that's there's there are many many occasions where I know you know you know you also

you have thought there's a lot of people there have been that has a grue

or has but of those people are sumament the number that really has

a maldition or a job is, is very minimal. We've been talked many times, but the people

not are ready to know, or not want to hear it. I always put an example very clear because is the

one of the one of the, that's a rapid-sim, to the person, Paco, I've moved

a new-de- a new-d-a- and, no-vend- no-st-st-stere- and I'm-stere- and said, I said,

I said, I started, where you live here? What you put? No, well, I'm doing this, this, okay. Cerca de

where you're there's, there's there's a very very famous that's in all Mexico, of these rojitas, and the other

other that's a little bit of the same than you, okay, and, and the way, I don't know, I'm still attending,

but my my son's there and okay, to your son, no, no, I don't know, but I'll

say, I don't want to get to something, I'm like, I'm sorry, and I'm, man, the conclusion

is very simple, no, they're doing brughery, you know, you're doing this business, this company, this

company, this is a thing, so, so many times it's a thing, but the people, many times

think, it's better think, it's better to say, I'm a bad decision, and I put a new thing,

a lot of a place, where it's a good, but so much times it's, I've talked, I've

talked to, doctors, doctors, too recently, that me said when the people know that the

people know, and they're to take or consume things that do you know, and you get in the when they're in,

and then they're saying, I mean my Pia is a lot of it's a lot of the rubble. But, after a rato

mentioned, or we talked about the time of the people that are people who use help me here,

help me here. The thing of this night for all those who are listening this video

podcast, vying it we're just just now we're just just on Spotify. We're

about of a question, I don't see if you know, I'm the last time that

you've been here for October. For October. Persones that have had been an acercation with

a type of entity, a barho astral, a demonio, how they like they like,

people, people who got to get on this theme and the really has been very

tragic, very sinister, how they have been this process and much many times because

not they didn't in stories, because much people that's the

concept or what is your concept or what you think for the people of the people of people of

a type of entity mal. We're going to put it so. Well, look,

me it's that when it's real, it is I consider I,

that I think about of these things is the better that you can be

because you say to do you say to do the people that

think that has that has Pocas cases have a burgeria.

That is, that is a thing of the burgeria. When you don't think it you know,

it's more sure that you know. Because the bourgeria is the same same. And exactly

like you with these people, that in that's, that's, they're not, it's a

dollar-sito of the head. Yeah. It's me quits with an aspirina.

Oh, is that I'm sure I'm too, I've been desveling.

And when you're when you know, you're you've got It's been, no, you've been years

saying to you're saying to you're not to get to the doctor, more or less happens and with the

thing of these entities that get to to be to a posseer, to infest, a body, a reality,

even a house, a house, I think that is the thing more complicated because

nobody wants to know that is at a grave infirmate, but at least we

have any we know we know how to treat her. In the case of that you, the day of morning, you'd tell, that in reality

is being attacked by an entity, like what you mentioned, is that I'm saying, that's never be a demon, but that's going to occur. What you do? You know, passes to ask to Pepo, a

Paco, hey, what can't do? To ask, to ask you to give to gritos? And the the worst of all, is that people don't to believe. Exactly. That's, that is

for me, the The thing that more fear I do. For so I think in the

many occasions that has succeeded, the cases end up that's they're in the murder

of the person. And with this, I want to let me start with the first

story, this is called Yuda. Okay. Simple. It's the story of

Imal. Ismail. Ismail is an adolescent between 15 and 17 years,

a little of a that, for azares of the destiny, came in addictions, substances illicitas that put to the people in a state

mental very, very difficult. He, many times occulted to his family to this addiction. At the

first he always said for questions that the university, me stress, that's the other,

the examines, then I just, I'm going to do form to allow me, no, not to,

but, we know, that one thing and he being a old old and not having

control of his decisions then he a very addiction to different substances. So,

his family is a family is a family very dark in the sense that are very

strict. His Papa, when discover that his his his son

to have to have these moments where I had some type of

drug, he said what he said, He said, I have the suspect of that you are doing this. I'm going to

the opportunity of that for you only you only busks to get to because what I have to have to do,

if you do you do is get to a place and annexart he says. He he's,

he's, he's, he's, he's a kind of, I do do so, but it's

for this, for the school, he's, well, no me important. I I said

and if no do you do you do this will be to make a to make a and he

he said, no's not true my papa never should be my time.

And he started to do you he started to do you know a yearbita that you

uh wwele for all around so his so his father he had

that he he'd and no He decided to give it to the force to a center of rehabilitation. What in Mexico, so he's known as a nexus. When he

he's got very bad, he's put very very sad because he never thought that his papa were to do this when he did do they're in

black, he's cuted the hair, they're rapped and they're presented in the group. He at the first that

he went to himself and said okay, I'm here, I'm here, for something I'm here, the video

me And I think it's for my So, then he's been to see the place like a refuge, he's going to

try to get in this idea that I'm here and view like one a second opportunity.

What what happened in the next was something was a very feo. To start

he's he did of something real and that the people that's in these in

those places know, he describes that when he gets that he took

with people that is criminal he had much fear because I'm

I'm here I'm the drug more levy here here there's people who

get the people that has killed people that have violated people

that have people that and his family with not to not

get us to they're to bring them to they're to be

rehabilitated when they they they're they they're with

much fear because, a past that was the most

little of all, uh, he was around of people and all they were

like with this mind of this mind of that he he had much

fear for the nights because the people about a group

of people and he began to medentar there. There

a person he he described a person in special that never

he never but he said when I when I when He was sat down in his

and always me mirab. But his was a look at

a kind of and that me was to be to be a lot of the

food and he was and he was I was trying to eat

my food but he was looking but there

in his mind desire I in a occasion

passed something very very very very He he'd

he'd he'd He'd after because always he said his

he's back me in that when he's a point to get to get a

dormido see like someone he's up a car and he

he he he he he intently to get a shot

and he he intent to profan he in that

he he's he's he he has a aborot in the

place, because it was a quarter where there was like littered you know, all of the same room. When

that's a one of the person responsible of this place, and he starts to call this

person, is that he intended to make this. He is the person responsible, put a person that did

this, that did he did he did that all the people that were in the annexo did they were

a file and allant of him, and all, all, they were to pass and they were to do a boffetada.

And at finalized he was to pass, Ismael and he was to gopeer until cancars. This, because he said,

he has done the person that agrede that what he did he's not and has a consequence. When he

took to Ishmael to helpia this person, he said, I sent him much lastime because he was very

ensangerted, had the rostro inched, had much the same. I don't do it. But what he said is, or do you or to you're going to

to help? Because then to you're going to be obligated to then he was obligated to and there came the first part of a very perturator. Ismail narrs that when he started that when he started

to grab a poignetazos to this man, he was to start to read. While he was buffeteing he'd how

he'd come he'd say to the face but she rey, he caused a pleasure, and he said, you'll have, peggam, but you're going to have. A part of that moment, it was an infirm in that place. He had no dormia, had to beasurgyas, he had to dream with the back to the wall,

quidding-se in all the moment. So, it was a moment a very rare, where there was an Anciano in the place that had never had ever seen. And he said, I know that you're passing attacks very

and I'm going to go ahead. You're going to invoke to an angel that's like your angel of the guard. Invoke a

an angel and he does a manny. Sidonai. Clamalo. Invokalo. He'll he'll be

help. In that moment he sent him a little of alivio although the aspect of the Lord

he gave a little of that night he He started to or not to God but to

this angel invocating. At the day the day the next, the people that were madrant the people

that made bad in the moments, as poor art of magic, they were to be

like he had disappeared, not he had been, and the stances of him

was very good, not he was to be repeated. He started

to make sure his conduct and his addiction that even it's

much more rapid than the normal. When he comes

to reincorpor to reincorporate to the situation normal, he began to study. Everything

started went to be a great, it was that the life was that was

that he was the thing. Passed the years and here he was where he

was where he's where it to get a something something. Of he

standing in his that started to have events of paralysis of a but in his paralysis, he'd be it like,

before that whatever thing would be able to hear gritos that were in the annexo. The night me said that

were people to grittar to the nada and he started to hear those in those dreams.

It's normal? He's normal because, because it so I've lived so time. My Cerebrough

is trying recreater those events, no going to pass nothing. But as I'm

going to hear of the door of the room began to be able and they were

in four sombras grandes. The was he were in hands and he

had one more who started he had to lastimar he

he had marques in his body but what he was he

was the not the pain of the markers. It was the

the pain of that this entity it profaned. And to all know to what

I refer. He did what he was going when he was in the annexo. He

was a little very curious when he when he he and he just

his arms his and his hands, but when he

had Disapparice in, but so, he obviously this he was causing some kind of confusion and he thinks that

this is some type of secuela that, that he, he, he, he had been, he's been

an addiction, even he said, he said, he said, he said, and his he said, and his

father, he said, and so is a secuel. Why? Because your body is trying to

adapt to not have the substance that you met you, it's normal. The nights

stills going to but the terrors nocturns they were what his father

and his mom is that constantly ismail grittable and when when they was saying

look in my arms look in my my brasus but when his papas but when

he said is that I've got to be I'm I've got to be how

I'm I'm this liquid vital no there there in the light, and in the

way, his papa said, he said, this is to do you your cerebrose is adapting, your style of

your style of your life, et cetera, et cetera. But this seemed to be imporando. So,

he was he was getting loco, I'm, the events that were going

was that he sentia like the camera, while he was done he, he had

and then these sentiers were to use of him. It was a

a very inferno because of the really I'm doing practically an abuser

for something you know you know that you lastime that you make a your

life and it's all you know what he said that the old invoked this angel

he'll he will help and in a night before he's he

preending the lights and he's again to invoke

to this angel that's called Siddonai and he started to want to invoking

and for art of magic brother, normally, the nights no times no time, no pass

nothing, all was in calm and he for fin could get to get back.

After of this is of that's the thing in the Annexo functioned a few

of a time but it was that every that he had this

invocation regress but more more four they were eight

and to these, each one, he describes in a relato that he left how each

one he was and abusable to him. He was desperated. He was with his

father, with his mom, and he said that he sentia to the time to be

to go to a cause of what he had these things. His father

always desacredita all, and he said, surely you you just

you're back to the vio. And is for that you

so, you go to go to go to that's the so I'm to call

to call yourself. This what I'm saying is very so that I write the father of

Ismail one a morning my my son he didn't his room and

he was he was he called for his number three times Ismael

Ismael his his his and he had that it was very

very he's he had had had been the life he

had decided to get the when he he

he had found he there was there he

had attempted against his life he he term

his relato saying in the burrow I found

a car of my he's where he he's he's

he's he's he's never he's thinking that he was

part of the desentoxication and me dole that he's but

me dole more not not never that that

was that was that he so That's a question. The people that

who want to ask this name, is one of the many of the many of the numbers that's

a smoteo. One of the princes or known as the princees of the infirno

in different grimorios about the demonio of the lusuria, the demon that

was to attent against to the sexuality of the people. I'm

to me eris-o that relato. No manches, bro. So, he's shown to invocar just to the enemy.

To be the enemy? And he, queryingos when he, uh, liberate of this situation,

he was making more more than he calmable, but when regressa, it was more further.

Then he invocable, he calmable and regress more further. Sure, because the

engaio is part of the truco of these entities. So is. They're to think

that was doing something of that's they're they're

they're they're more more than you know you know I think I know

I'm so that's something for this man nobody to say to be

a father and and also is just that's not what we're we're

in a principle is that you're you're you're you're you're

more beyond the second of some a substance. Sure.

Well, more me it would be that this man, well, not was

bad of some situation, a little a problem, or something, that was

that was altering his perception of the reality, but... 100. But because

that's that I'm because is the true. That you create that is a

other other other thing, less that they have done to say

to be to be the amit where he was a person that difficult

there are people who are people are people they're doing people who you want to you get this

you know I'm not I'm saying but it's very very very very

and it's it's very and it's these demons also they're really calculated

that kind of situations no so they know they know they're not

in this moment with a situation perfect to all

all in for to get in the Tramp a 100%. Oh, well, I you, I

to tell this experience of a person is a situation is a situation very difficult. Figgate, it's called

the regalow, and there are many are very interesting, where I would I would

notary, we'd say, the control that these entities have, where they

are, in a car, we'll they're a lot of but in reality it's going to

other other thing for the way. Like, the regal. This

history occurred when a little one of an one of 11 years called

Johnas acude a on the church with his papas. His

papal Emilio, his mama Clara. When they're they're

to the church have to put to respect to this family. Jonas is his only son-year

and one of the father and the parents know that his boy suffer of epilepsy.

It has some events in those that the people that are that are

that are moments incontrolable that are that are that's different things

and they're they're obviously being these people these people

so people that, also of what can do do the science for his

think that the fact that the church, the being to give to give us

more in the life, to do to do to help to do to get

to be to get this situation. Okay. But they not they were

there was that there was not that they didn't know that they know

what is what is what in this diagnosis that has

of the Epilepsy, they'll not an something they're going to give to the church.

Johnaz is the poor. Of each the days in that Johnas has to go to go to

the church, although Johnaz is he is very that he's he's going to

get to the church and that he's he's he's he's that he's

that act to acude to the house to put a

poor. U. they're obviously they don't see this this relation that exists between these

situations they're in this day, a day, a day, a day, they're in the church,

when they're when they're to get that strange sensation that's a strange sensation of that the environment

is putting pesado, of that the things are putting bad, he's he's going to

get a point to suffer another another way an attack of epilepsy and And then, in the congregation,

they're going to can't. And it's in that moment, that, that, that sonido, the music,

the can't, that's, this attack again of epilepsy. So, he does the attack of epilepsy,

you know, this pressure in the head, it's to be the attack, not is capable

not even Johnas, of 11 years, to put the hands, and his your head directly

against the soil with a goal very very very sick and then

his papa Emilio gore immediately to try to get to

get to say that's suffering an attack of epilepsy and he

want to put to put to put to get to get to

and to get to but when when he he

see a his child and when he is like

in this moment his his he's a what I

do is men adults simply not he can't move and he

is there tenso in the piece and he does know when

has an attack of epilepsy because obviously those muscles

they can make to explain to make sure the because he's

more but here's something something something is the thing

that not not his PIRNES are like torsidas

Tant that it's going to have to revent those but

the torso no the the torso are like so as a more

this this us this and Johnas that in the

attack Epilepsia and the Papa trying to get

to and he commenced to murmurar something. The father is a point of that he can listen to

and in that desperation of what is going and he is near and is murmurating

something like in a language different obviously the people that's there in

the congregation and they start and begin to murmurar what is happening etc

and Clara her mom, is desperated, looking a his son there,

suffering, and more, the mom commenced to grittal to tell him, he says, levantal,

levantal, he's, go to and in this attack, the people, the people, so,

see, to look, to be to do how they can't totally the,

the, the, the can't, the that's occurring in the church. All are trying to

help a little bit of 11 years. He's there murmuring things, is convulsioning just the

little the little the little the little the little so that all that all right?

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He's he's he's a attack terrible, no? And, well,

the papas are very very as opposed of this that's, that's that's

what's that's what's that's that's that they didn't in the

environment like like if there in the church there would be

something more something dark, something that was giving us a

show of that was in control. A they didn't do for that they and,

and, then, so they took a return to back to house. And

there, you know, it was attended he, it was the night.

And with the night, commas to occur certain things that

had had passed. Because we're talking of an attack of epilepsy but they're they're going to register in

house that there are some sounds strange. Like unas contra the madera.

Sombras that are like are like grow in those corners and move

something. Something that is more than what simply can be a attack

of epilepsy no? Yeah, we're talking of an event strange. They're still Inquietos, Jonas,

dormied in his camita, when, of a repent, she'd get a grittling. Like if had a

a pesadilla horrible. No, even could explain what is what he's the thing.

And that kind of that that's somber, those rumors that are passing.

So, those papas, obviously, acude to the church and they

they're and they're but is that your is that your child has a

epilepsy okay we don't we can help this is a case medical

not is a lot that you can you can't be with you

and basically they they're not only that that

say we say we say but more well, that's that's

more, that's a more, a protocol. They're they're doing that is suffering

of something to a epilepsy. Yes, to their disease. Sure. You know,

they're that's that's that's that's that's and the church

can't do that for them. They're they're so they're they're so

that the sombras, the rumors, that he's night, yeah,

it's to occur every way more constant. The attacks of epilepsy,

when occurren, have this rare effect in the that the people are torsying,

but the torso and the torso and the torso and it's when they can't,

they can understand what is. It's very very bigito and they can

understand that is. They're so desperated that they they're they're

that they need they need they're they're and he's a brother of Clara

is a man who he says you know he says you know external to what we

we're we know I know a person that can help to help to

Johnas basically is a brute you you decide if you want to

you also I think that Jonas has something that's simply

epilepsy. And the parents are desperated and say they're and they're

and they this man this man. This happens with the people that

if they have something that there's more that's there's

there's when they're when they when Johnas no comes

in a state terrible get normal and these people

to see this person to and this senior, since

he entered, he gets to Johnas and he he said

to the papas. I have a question for you.

To what are they're to renunciate? I Jolle. With

to to his his his. It's a question

that not they have formulated but that they had

had done. And I think that any I'd be disposed just to

what they said, all unisono responded we're, we're we're we're

very we're we're we're going to have to do a ritual because

we need we need we're we need to do a process long complex

and will have consequences there are going to have consequences we're going to start

with this ritual with the hope we're we're going to help Johnas and they

they're they're and this person obviously let's some some

that we know what are in the majority be the certain things

so it's then because they have all these these

elements they're to start this Dice the papas that in that moment

he was surprised because the vealas commenced to send them they're in a form

specific Johnas has to be in the center of this preparative that they've

done when this brucho he begins to murmur some and the

bells they're to move to to titillar if they're to put

some some Like an act of magic, as well. And they're like like the ambient begins to put to frio.

They're there with this so rare, this man reciting and of a repent, he says to Johnas.

Cere the eyes. And Jonas that's, that's there is for a situation that is

to help us, See, the eyes This man While he's titillando And without To start

to murmur He takes Aumulet And he He makes count That with the amulet

Amar A Jonas He'll Amara The Mama of Jonas Tomas

Toma the Man of Emilio Sient that I don't Maybe this is something

Malo And he has his He was accustomed to that's not used

to do that they and he he puts the hand very very

very and he immediately he's looking to observe and he and the

he he had to murmurar and the bells that were like like

they're to come to come back to until they they're

to get in calm the the frio that

was in the The abitation, simply is retina. Jonas, you can't open the eyes.

How do you do you see well? You know? Do you feel that something? You know, you know,

so good. But you said that there were consequences. they'll have. They'll

they've been this family very very felices because they're that they're in a

way, they're not in him. Something something. Something changed. Something

changed. No, know what is. But they're content, so they're happy, they're

good. What I'm to say, you, will be to sound very rare. Jonas

no He doesn't have attacks of epilepsy. But some

days after there occurs the consequence his father

was working and suffered an accident he and he's

he and he he and he When when it

When it Heard The mobility For So, Of course Of You know,

Do you What you What was His Pyrna's? His Pyrna's But also

But also Another other thing Jonas Murmuraba something That nobody could

understand That was It was very suave Inentendible The father of Honas, after the

mobility of the legs, he was going to to lose other function. He was he was, to the

point in that he was a mud the the medical not had any idea of what

was going. Jonas was growing without epilepsy his father without mobility in

the and the and without clara she sentia but very bad very

really bad and he was and he said to his husband the

which not he why why is that is going this

why because God my because but simply no

there no there response. With the time, Jonas he did

count of something. He was growing. Two things were

with him for ever. In the moment in the moment, in what happened,

his papas were talking with the truth. They were disposed to

what That's to what So, to what be to solve to

but the other thing is he's that he is that he's living

like a real of that this exists that this is real and

he says that he has it has and that he can

get to get to the heart because he knows that

In some form, that with what he was with the kid, he was

to pass to his father, he could he could get to live a normal.

Oh, he was tremendous. Yeah, really? And is that, I think

that the people that are parents, mothers, I think that had taken

that decision. Many times it's out of and I have done count, it's

difficult when you have something, when you have a new when you have a problem, you're in a

situation. But when you have children and you see that they're in that it, dole the

dole the dole, and many times parents have been caught and

clear that they're not because the love of an child is the for me one of

the most one of the ones that exist in this world. Or at less of those

that we can experimenter in this life. The preferer

suffer I to to get to suffer. So, and I think the part

feal, the part of the part of you, you, and I'm responsible

of that for you, your father, his life practically have

been because now there's a good quality of life. The

living without able without, without is something very very very

that at the same time many people many people are disposed to live to help that he's

about because Jonas was the he was the most the only I'm not I'm saying

one thing because it's at a certain point this part is a part is a

little cruel yeah no not they're they're they're

not they're they're they're they they're so that

he it's still growing and all the days remember that his father is in

couldn't move the and without because he took the decision of to help. And he

will have to live with that. That's that that's that's that's

that's I'm in that's I'm going to ask a question. When we're

when we're very, very young, I'm we're so we don't

we're so I think there's a age, where you do things without

you're risks, that many times, you know, how I'm how I'm I'm trying,

but in your moment, no, no, you know, that's the story of Arturo and

Joel. The friends, that from little, those were people, were friends

of school, were companions to play in the car, and they were all the time,

they'd all the time, they'd together, no, those amos inseparable.

Unfortunately, the life, the life was made up together for many years, were to the secondary,

a preparatoria, and when they were at a point to enter to the university, the two

coincided in a same career, studied together, and they were some

friends that were to be a fiesta and one to one all other they were

they're they're they're they're they in one occasion

yeah almost for out of the university both obviously

even even with my and my and papa for for

for to this part of we have we've graduated yeah

we're going to work we're to many so many things

that much sometimes one one so I'm mental and

say yeah I think I'm I'm the part where

we we're we we're we we're we're to

all the time they go to excursion, to do senderism. They used to get something more and it's how they decided they're going to go to other

country, to enjoy a party because there was an event and they said that the things were quite they'd be quite. They'd look at emotions and so they're just how they decided

to travel to Thailandia to wow to Thailandia because there was an event of some people that they were not were more

sure but a pair of people that they're in the university

he said is that they're because here the people they're like that

they're not to get with Mexico so so they they're planning this

year with a year and they said we're to graduate we're going to

go to get a get the day and when they're when they they're

to get to Bangkok and there is where they did know what

the chido the lot the loces, the people, other culture. They're in the nubes,

the know of a new new people, new new customs, and over all because they got to know things new, markets, food,

all very, and they were and they were in their get to the outside of the bank, I was to

be a great fiesta. Between persons that people that were to visit, persons of

place, but they didn't know that that fiesta was because they were to celebrate a a type of

that these people were the people who were the attention was the alcohol and pass her well, and

to know and know people. Then they're in the place, where there

there's a lot of people, there also people foreignia, touristas, all so

kind of hippies, with poor ropop and making and doing much disaster.

Well, They're in this place They're In an Ambient They're They're

They're They're People They're They're They're They're They're

They're They're They're And so And so There's A moment of

Locura where They're They're They're They're They're They're

Like they're A Ceremony We're We're a Ceremony There There's

Like There's And there A person that Tato to

Tatou a person. Oh, Vin's Visit You don't you can't say without your tattooage.

Ben, we're going to tattooing. And Joel, he said, Arturo, oh, Arturo, you that you

want to do do you do? It's the moment, we're doing. We're in other place. You're prepared for this moment.

Well, Arturo, well, what I'm tattooed? No, well, let that you elixen the

tattooing. They're, they're doing something that has to be with their culture. Look, what's cymble

that's so chidos, bro. You'd have to do you a tattooage in the back in the Bras.

Well, Arturo and the place that they're in this relato is you know

that's all the fiesta, but more for this kind of the people that were the people who

were quite in a place quite in a place quite a place, but there was this person that was

tattooing those. He said I'm I'm in Mexico and bro, do me what want to

do you want to I'm a feste the type was been Perfect.

Sientate and he's dole a ching. Of course his his friend he wrote

that he grittable but that the design was getting being chido was a very a

culture, all very bad well and the day the day the next

he he'd be the tattooage and he was he was he took photos

and to presume to press to make to Mexico yeah when

when to be here in this country is where it's where it's where it's going to be a son

very strange because he is very strange but Arturo started to start

grittando in the madruada something that I know that's said by

him I felt much a lot I'm I'm feeling a much

a lot in the person the pain that I felt was the

The pain that I provoked the tattooage but it was a weird because

yeah no I'm when I'm when I started I'm

the light and I see the tattoo the tinta that

we know that's black was red was roha that

strange he said probably he said probably probably he no

see for part of my skin the inches the blood

I think that is normal never I made a tattooage, it's normal.

But the tattooage is like it would have been seen for tint roha. He would have to be

a lot and the day next, the tattooage was a black. Normal? Yes, his tattooage is

normal? Normal, like if never would have been different. He, he begins

to tell this to Joel and he says that's that's done a tattooage, bro. Probably

probably for the type of tint or I don't know, they're no number of pretexts.

They started things more raras In fact this that I'm to tell the parents

of Arturo It was the madrugated and Arturo started to have episodes of paranoia

and he started but something that something that was that Arturo when

they were in his room to Arturo was parado in

a corner with the arm up with the Not they didn't what they said,

but when they said that they was a woman, he had left him, they described a sensation

like if his brazo were of metal and the moment that they took his brazo,

sentiered much a lot, sentiering like if they were getting a metal

calient, and they saw how the tattooage was taken to the redo. It's,

and he says that I want to the odor. I, how you get to here? no, I don't know

I don't know idea to the morning the tattooage normally was a normal.

It's like every that every that he were in rogo pass about things

while the day and all the day he not he not he notia he was normal

but he gave to the night they were in those terrors nocturnes

and the tattooage he had to be paranormal in their room that

are in a grader where the father of Arturo began to experiment

the same. There were an occasion where the three were

exactly the same. We told Arturo that in one

he standing accosted he saw from the window

that his court was in the context was at

the side of the front there was an

type of an He sat down to him, he took his brazo, he put him

on his hand on the tattooage, and when he had made some unas in his and this was

what he caused the the dolor. He had a much a lot and he was a

black, but with the body like if really was lostimated and

they'd get to his parents because they had seen the two

how something something was out of the ventana, with direction to the court of

his son. So, the three were being that something was a little. Joel, that's the

friend who accompanied after after Arturo, he's to know and to get to do that

what he says, to doro, well, and he is a really, because he

didn't of this moment of, he, he, he, he,

he said, he's, he, he seemed culpable for Yeah, he'll all intents to do that he was that he says, let's see, let's see, let's see what signific this tattooage.

Because it was a symbol very rare. This symbol was like a V. It was like a triangle. Uh-huh. You'll put it. A little triangle. It was like two triangles, like. A circle, some lines.

He gave to, what kind of you is that was at that moment, Pepo? Well, it's, it's like a demon, no? It's the sigil of Lucifer. When he discover that, he didn't know what I said. Because he said, he said to do, not that he had put it in his

body. For this, he's, he says, we'll do we need to do something. What you didst, not is something good, probably where there here

what you you're living and we need to that's for that for this

moment Arturo yeah had much nights of not dormer yeah

physically yeah was not ummmy no dormia all the time

he'd be incered all the aspirations that had to go to

get to work and to come to he disappeared he

he only he was he fourth, wanting to sleep.

Because he said, is that if I doorm a bit, and the night,

this is going to go to then he preferer to be day and to be there

to know. He he responded to something he said because he said to Joel,

he no me interest what I did in the person. No, me interest the

life, no me interest my future. I'm I'm got trapped here and

not going to see. Yeah had something that he was a resignation of him.

He was a person that he had no had nothing with the life. Obviously Joel

he said obviously he was he knew of all the life and he was he was to

tell what he was that we went to Thailand and in Bangkok some people

were tatuant to more people and Arturo he Obviously, we'll

see this factor in some stories. The parents don't create that for a tattooage, that was

being the cause of what had their son. They preferred to think that his his son

to have to have to have to consume. Yes. To consume. Like the story.

Like the story. Exactly. So, he said, he said, more dino if you

too you're ingriending these substances because that not is good for his,

he was a sermon that's a word. There's a moment where Arturo is

hospitalized because all not to eat, all not to be the body,

obviously in some point, well, he's to resenting that person and

he was interned in the hospital. The extrano and this is narrated

by Joel. I was to be to be a time. In one occasion

his parents had that for questions of work to go

out of the and I said, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm a lot of the night and I'm sure that he he's

to get to get to the night and he he's he's on the side of

his room in this moment he he's he said he

he said he said he said he he's he was being the

court of the hospital and his his his And in that trance,

he saw how the door principal is open and there's a sombre enormous that's that's literal had to getchars

to erguerge for the enormous that was, so it was so it was that kind great more than the

same more than me, me mirro to the eyes and he was all of me.

He rio in my car. Camina on the side of the camera

where he took a foot and me he said he says that don't

you'll forget that you you me you're because he's

he's he's he's in that he's the dream sumamente

supermated and and unfortunately what he he he's the

the of one of the appartos that mark the pulse of

his friend. The typical Yeah. The line plan. The line. I had left.

He'd he'd he'd better life. Obviously came in this part of the

rompiment of this part that far. He said Paco, no see what's what's

no, if it was part of the destiny to, I'm to my friend,

to my my friend, I, I mean, the suffering of these persons,

of the the people that I am like if were from my family but the day of today I don't

I'm able to say that I'm that I was one of the people that he was to do

to do that tattooage because I no had a conscience of what could

pass no I'm manches you know you what

They're playing with the culpability. Right. How is it? How is it? How is it? You have said the tattooage. Exactly. But,

before to get usel? Yes. So, like, the burl. No? A feeling like to be perceived during your life. In his tattooage,

he'll have to have the clave in something because he was this, this passed a lot time, but in these years there was a moment

of his life He had to recorure to help psychological because he he took three intents

to get to the life to get to the life because not only he kept with that

he's he's a so that's something for that the call the

also came with that the same he has the

part not when when he does the tattooing the the part when

see that this sombra or this thing or this look,

he took the foot of his friend and I'm a scene that's a repeat for many of

years. That's horrible. No, it was, obviously that's accompanied

the courier was, I'm put I enfocated my work, my relations

rompeas, all the time. I mean accompanied of things bad,

but that dream was a time. The time, it was three times

and it's for that he's for that he came to a lapseus of depression, because

still being of Culp in the Canyon, caon. Oh, no, it's, it's a,

it's a horrible, man. It's feo. Oh, oh, let,

I mean, I know, I know, I know, that a community of the extra-normal

they're much the things that have to have to dogeria. Uff. And,

and, I'm, I'm, But I'm atrebo to say that through the stories that you have told your invite to

your inviates, they're like indications of certain things that are repeated in the brughery. So, so,

a little with the words I'm going to try to say, like, to start certain points, but you

me said, before to start this story, I'm a question for you, no me

did you, but I have a question for you. Okay, okay. I'm a question for

you. A be. In response to brief, if you you know of a person that is he has been and you say, but who can me do have done?

In what circle? It's the first in the first in the one. Familiar. I'm going to tell you this story that's called The Silencio Roto.

Okay. That story is of two adolescents that are myas, yeah. Tamara and Brenda. They're as As a

adolescentes They're experimenting like many changes and there's something in the

adolescence and also many times in the life adulta as like in

a time of the newness we're we're people we're we're

we're we're part of something more more great that

that do find ideas forms to think that

then then of a group more grand of people. So,

then they are looking what on it. Resulta that his papas are religious

both of Tamara and of Bredda. And so they're that there is a

good because for them is like something something as a more

they're looking an asercam spiritual of some and they

can this church that is a very popular in America

and I'll try to say in the world, that's very popular, and that's a certain time in some these are in these these retires spiritual.

They're saying, well, these two two chicas, Tamari Berendah, are very very sanas. So,

so in a way, so, so in a way, to be a bandy or something, so, more well,

to this church, if I'm, in my adolescence, so in this church, and then

they're in this retire spiritual. And the is that is that is that they're

passing super well. They were going to other people, they're

doing to have been activities, and they're all the really, it was super-padre

and apart they were like away a little of

this but they're in an environment and very well

well after after that's they're saying that a rato

just they've had learned of the songs and they're

very feles and all the Organizers of this Retire Spiritual Decided to join to all these

adolescents, women, and they're saying, we're going to do an exercise that is very interesting. What we're going to

do is something like the dynamica of the silence. This dynamic of the silence is

basically, they're like a circle where every is sat sat and what what you do is

you're going to get to silence, no you're going to say that you let's get you distracts, more or less

like a meditation. But in other than your mind in black, what you're to do you

is that you will be to be to judge. Okay. You're going to be your own judge

and you you're going to be those things that in your life you you're to have to

have to have to have to have to respect, no? You're going to ask the response,

you're going to you're going to other other people, we're going to this space of silence in this activity,

the dynamic of the silence for the reflection. Perfect. After that euphoria, that o'clock

of me me, me, it's very interesting this, not, the energies,

how it's really, they're there's been can't there, there's there's going

of people new, you're being content, the emotions are, and the repent

they're saying, now keep in silence and reflection. Boom. It's a

future. Yeah. And, well, they're in silence when to be a moment

tamara, what is a thing very rare rompe the silence because so as

as you're sitting, it's a start to get to. The strange here is

that obviously when you grittas, it's to take the air, and you

have to get to get a and you're to get to get to be in a lot of you know,

because it's a lot of because it's a lot of a great, and it's big and obviously

Brenda, that was on the room where retumbed the sound and all the world

and she kept like, what's she also, she, but she

also, I'm going to what to what's her her Amiga, but

she's totally Ida with the eyes to the head, grittando

discontrolated and when she'll observe, like, what we do we do we do?

She unes these grittos. She then also also, she's to get

like a uncontrollable obviously the people that was there were there, the adolescents

like they're like the and the people immediately then they're

they can't but One creer that they're that

they're going to it's not, it's not, and I need to and I'm in that

reflection. So, more well, they're alarmedos but they're atentous,

they're atentos to what can't the parrocos, they're in these people who

are there to help that mention that they are the ones that are the are the

that all that all this is good and the parrots and they are they're and they're

they're trying to calmarles is the first what they're so they're okay okay okay no you're

to get to calm calm but they're still gritting and they're and they're

and then all those that are in the place they're they're to start

when they when they the parrocos and the monitors not can't

control the situation so then not let's, those they're

they're and they're and rapidly they're to get a other salon so they're not there

this hysteria collective like no so much the more the disorder and they're and they

they're and they're like you get to get from so you let's get into and

they're in other salon they're they're they're like like hey hey like more

more more than more tamara that was that was that was no I've

left to gritty a he a so it's

it a call yeah they're they're so their eyes

they're in black and his and the and so it so

to tocern to to to toer to a horrible

because says Brenda that she she she was

she was she trance in the he was she

to her amy Tamara how she was not was convulsioning

she was torsying a little a little so I'm talking and the parrarchs were obviously

in that they're at the presence of a possession of a monia and it

and he said that he said that was sure that her that his friend

she was going to get a moment in that he was not was

sentada torsida But it was like if it was like something something made of made. In the piece, in a position totally anti-natural. Okay. Is what they're doing these parrarchs is that one of them

gets, and he brings with me, Awa-Bendita. The people that are there are, to try to help her. So, especially at Tamara, because he had, yeah, yeah, had even to gritty.

And in the moment in that you Arroja the water she's she was there was there when the water

when the water when the water says but this day was a gritty like this day it's like the water he'd be made to get to be

horrible and then so all get to get to be more more nervousos more nervous but these people

well know what they're they're going to There are panico, but continue. No, they're and they're trying to, and they're

trying, the water bendita, yeah, is there's grittable and contortioning in the piece of a

manner super rara, and of a sudden, all all so calm. But, oh, with this, eh,

is a calm in that moment and it's that is that space, those seconds, in the that the

the body of Tamara that's there that's a little a position rara to bring to bring

to be know yeah it's what what's what is what is what is what

they're they're and they can't and they're that something that something that

the figureate the the more the most great of the person

more experimented the parroco When they're observing a Tamara he was he looked at

with Brenda and he said delicately to the o'id you. You

know, do you know, of the family of Tamara? And Brenda,

in that moment he said, something that his friend he had

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very small, he said, well, I'm going to show to something. And what she be I

don't he I don't he belas figures of demons

of demons figures in the soil and the abel he said you

me going to help you see here here

and Tamara cre that his father no does

Magia Negra. Hmm. Very very. No you're your

friend. The parroco so it's then to the mom of Tamar. She.

The man in call. Tamar is bad, but is a bad, but

is a question. And you start to ask you questions.

Diggam for favor your Sueger to he's dedicated

and in immediate the mom of Tamara she has found

that that something has and then the mom

they said that in one of those rituals

that had made this this sir this sign

assurably that he was to able to invoke a demon with the

help to Tamara. And that that demon was going to

be to get submitted under his power. But they

thought that was he was a local. At after that

moment the mom of Tamara at any cost no

he'll never to never his his exer to get to his

but occurred another thing you did you did you that you

was torsying and that when they was that had

had been rar that that this story to me I

really because has an element of something that the

people that know that could be a demon in the body in the person I'm going to

exactly this I know where you was he torsio so forth that he broke his

his muscles yeah and today Tamara has a remember in his body

of what a demonio he did he broke the bones including those of the

the the how you what was Oh, so how Fierty. Has it

like four months, I've been a person that pertains a group of people with the

cult of Lucifer. Uh-huh. And they do they're different rituals and do you

make pactos. These pactos not those don't they don't no

the first that I said, no. Because a person that

If you want to pertainter to my group, well, how I'm going to cobrate? He's a pact. He's prepared, and there's pact.

And, and, and, what I said is, and what you're saying, and what you're saying, is,

I'm going to my pacto. He, he said, he, he said, and I, he said,

yeah, let me. He said, no, I can't say, I'm sure to the

cameras, but it was a moment of much emotion and much suffering. Sofremium. I was very emotional

because I knew that after my pact, the things were going to be different for me.

But the hours that I stood in a quarter with that demon, ooh!

I just saw how it was the eyes, aruged the car, me said, my

body no was to be the same. I go bro, countam.

I don't tell me. But I do you know my my body no, my

body no, my my body, my body, my organs, there was

no, even in the bests that they have used in their reunions,

it's practica something like like the media where a person

of the group for voluntat proper says I I want

I want to be the basica the Lodres where this

entity can enter and to talk and I'm and I

asked and what was the more that took to

see with in someone who prestes his person he's manno

many those are rompe much whesos are and the most

the most the most it's like a coo tron the

the head of the person as the same he

began to get to and a point where

it was he was he not was and

there Bras Tron And I And you're And you're No, no, no They're

Because for Fork It's an honor That's an honor That's a Oh, no manches It's You know

I'll say I'm going Yeah Right Right that's You're That's I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm like Like I

What do it can make that acceptes those things, you know,

but it's that every every live a form yeah, 100% distinct

of my past, is my past, I mean, there's people who have

experimented things in their past that this question, well, but

to me not, but to these people, so, that are like, I think,

victims of this type of entities. There's a person that basically,

all, it's all, bro. And then it's like in a point in the point in that you,

you know, you know, yeah no. Yeah no. All right all, all is all all.

I go, I go, it's all. It's in a moment of a dolor terrible, while he's doing

a godin. Trabacher in an office and have the business of the world, well,

yeah, yeah is a thing of the locura. And a person in his officeina, he said, I have a little

with what you, look, you know, you're going to be very well. And he thinks literally that he's going to

get to the church. Well, it's a contrary. Okay. And he gave a

place where they're that in that culto, they're with certain entities, demonios,

for supposed, where the chief, well, others. Yes. And that

they're they're they're to make those presentes and you can you want

you want to what you want to say. Although it's something

even Tonto Tonto Yeah what yeah but one

once that you're not you can't not that you Paches Diner

No okay that you pagas what the demon the consequence what the demonio that's so is

then he no he and then so to put to enter pacta and he they're saying

today you're to know and it's a group of persons that says that material they're

that is like a sombra that is like a summer but it's human that the

eyes rogues like the fire and his presence is imponent so.

He said he was like a person, like in the movie this, uh,

the little the dead, they were so they're so, but,

like, simply the hand, uh, because that's that's the demon

yeah, yeah. And they were so they're just with those saw he was

how they were how people felles things horrible. And a sometimes the demonio

no want to do you. Because better you do do it. So,

I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm, and the other person has to let you

do you do you do it. So, she spanta and they says that he's going

to go? Okay. Well, there's to ask what is the Pago for you

ask us. The demon evidentemence you know You know, Yeah, yeah, it's

materialized and then then they they're that's they're that's they're

and he he's and he says, the demon he wants your your arm

and your right. And in that moment those a beastia the yeah,

that's that's that's a lot yeah it's a honor it's a

lookura is like so Why do you get in that? That part of me impressioned, because, for example, when are corpses posited by X-entied,

we'll see what apparently is a position, but when, I mean, it's very poor that a, it's very probably that need a much

things that the universe and the planets aligns for that so it, but if it's, the body gets destroyed. It's a group deformed,

And so an energy accumulated in a mortal in a human is... And you

I think for them, I think for a man you don't want your your life, a demon

no wants your your no one doesn't your no way that you

think it's that we're that we're we're just that we're just simply like a like a

cat a juggeteating with a yeah yeah they're so they're so so

Yeah, I destroyed the life. You know, I've put in a example very burdon. I don't see if you've seen, the games of the Klamar? Yes. But the games of the Calamara? Ah, yes, sure. But the millionaires, elite,

what do you look? Diversion? Sure. So, I do it visualize similar to, no, I don't have nothing to do, I'm going to doveting us a little, no? Let's see, let's see.

I've put the example. In this point, Pepo, I'll tell my third and ultimate history. The story of Diego. This story came of the phrase that I did

in a while that's a second story, that when we're not, we're going to we're doing

things for ignorance, for a lack of knowledge, for lack of maturity, et cetera. And,

many times you're not you who do you don't pay. There are people, persons, personitas

that pay those decisions that you take. So I'll I'm on the story of Diego

Diego is an adultente that after to come the years

took a change radical in his life. I'll give a context

very so Diego grew only with his mother

is the mother that's the moment that's got for a cigarrials and

his abuelos both maternors and paterns fall when he was

he was a very baby. So, his only family was her mom. He's, and with her mother, they're moving

to a place where practically no more family, no, there's his mom was his

world, it was all. And the good of this is that they're an excellent

relation, mother and they're an very chido, a chemica a kind of a chemical

the time and moments very very very very good,

a excellent communication and especially that the two both

they were many things that that would get to a

supermarket was to get to your mother and one of

one of one of those one of many that could get to

get to get to change to the night

a morning in when Diego complete the 13

years he He started to be more solitario. His mom described that there were moments where they both were to sit down to dinner and

they'd some profound, so bonnitas, and of good as first to Diego, he was sent about, or simply

they said, no, I'm going, and she noticed this change a very strong, and she

thought, well, my he's in this process of the change of a childe,

then the hormones, and I know, it's normal his change. No

he said he said he was he was very indifference very solitario all the time he'd

be able to know there's what you we're going to do a little she said something that's

something that she said the people that I know if the people that when I had my prims of

us to be a bus of this was that by my carie we us would have to a little a world

for the center, we're going to we're going to go to the same I'm going to do this. It was, that's not, a little bit of a little bit of a bus,

that's still, there terminate. One madrugada, the grits of Diego despirte to Sandra,

that's a mom. She corra the room and when when he the

light, be something very a little, yeah that Diego, his his son

was on the arms totally extended, the feet together

long, long, like if were in form of cross,

but he was grittable with the eyes herrados. She

he and try and try and he and he he

describes that his rostro and his and his eyes were very

rogos like when a person is fixying or someone

or someone he's his his his he goes and

like with a excess of respiration very altered

and she he said he he said he said I was soneying that

they were some figures of the room to the room. One of them was to

go to an extreme of my side, me had the brazo and me those

put it and the other and the put to the feet together so

he was he he describes that is like a he's like a

form that was he was above of him and when was

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It was the second that I saw this. And he said, I said, like if

me were taking the organs of the body, so, the

and that was the great, that was the that I made, that my

mother was, it was a thing, it was a it was for part of what I don't know

what you're going to be a little bit of many things very rare you know trying to consular

to this child to to do you even even so his mom he gets dormied

with him he he's and then and then it's now to go to

get to to her trying to be very very comprehensive she said a At every rato,

temblavis, a car rata, like, like, you know, and you're in you know, you know,

you know, to get to the school, I go, no, you know, get to the house,

I'm here, I'm a permission, you know, a man, a man, a man, a man,

a man, a man, yeah, no, no, no, I don't, I don't, I'm,

but I'm care, I'm not, I'm, I'm not, so I'm, so I'm going to continue

normal, agara, she, Well, pass in the hours, Repu, and as four hours

he mark for the telephone her mom. You know, she has to come to get to the school

urgently. She's that kind of what? What was? When she came to the school,

they're they're going to be a direction, where see a Diego, his

he's sitting in a bank, with the rostro to down,

call called, there two maestro more and a man who

was a man who's a mark in the rostro and one of the master limping

with a gaza the mouth. What happened? I'd a pain

much to say to this sir. His his little began to

get to this young like if it was an animal the

master in when he did know he took separate

and in that moment Diego he took his book, he'll get to

the master, he rompe the book and even being how was the

situation, he had to get another master more and between the two

and to get to him. If he not he was he he's

his mom says that I don't think he's I'm never has been a

young violent he is a young very noble sir,

there are the two maestors, there's the little the group. His son is impossible. My son is not so. If no

there were testigos, I'm, I'm sure that that's not true. They're they're going,

Diego gets suspended to the school for some days, he's he's

they've put, literally to apply this of this Boredle an opportunity to my and because

Diego never had been a second opportunity. They're going to the house, he's up

Diego to the vehicle and he was saying nothing. His mom he was saying,

he said, why he did you? What did? What was? That's the little he said

to a little. Diego calliado with the look to look at down,

no he said nothing. He said Papa, why don't say nothing?

In one of those see how he He levanted the rostro, the mirror, and he says, I don't

I'm I'm not I'm not he said you're sure that you? I'm not my man.

So who gulpio to the master and to your friend? No, I can't

explain. Just I can say that I'm not that's put very rare.

They're at the house, the ambient was very tense, obviously there was

much tension in the environment. He gets to Diego So in her And she gets sat down

in the sofa thinking what is going to it's normal what is what is going to be the year?

It's not for these changes of the child, it's because he's a figure

paterna and even in Trump the sentiment of the feeling of doing

something that's okay pass the situation Feppo and they're

they're Diego still experimenting terrors nocturns. The gritts

always despertable to the mom and every that's the room

was like if stood in form of the cross. The same

was one and other time. It was the new that new

never while the other other entities they had had

in the hands and intent trying to extract

something of the one in one one occasion,

she is a madrugada, she and he a soma the cell and he

surprised to see to see to be a in the madrugada? In the madrugat?

And he he says what you do you do this hour? And he he says

no can't do you don't know I'm not I'm much insomio I'm

much fear and I decided to come to the salon to bring the

lights and there he was he acaricing to a a Luna that was her catita

she's she she's the she's the she a company and I feel well okay

you want you don't mom let's to be to be to come no you don't you

don't be really confia in me okay so my her mom so they pass the hours

she gets His son, he had gone to the school. His son, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was all right. But for the night, his son was he got up. In other occasion,

again, she'd get in the madrugada, and this time, was, he was going to something very rare. No, I was in the cell. She's assomed to the door of the patio

tracero, and he's got to know that it's open. It was very hard yeah, between and four of the morning. She assoma And he

That's a He's a He's a Like incado She's She's a He's back He says

He goes to him He says, Diego What do you She says She says That he He didn't

He said He was He was Like he He was He was He was He was

He was a Piedritr in the Man and He was in the Tierra

of the patio drawing things raras while at the

while he valbuceia dormied but not he didn't nothing

he said he said he said he said he said what what he goes

he he he was he's he he's in the cell

and there is where he is where he does know that what is

what is sociating with Diego no is nothing normal

after a a rato to be there sat down Diego he said and he said

mamma what I'm what I'm what I'm why I'm you you're in the

patio you're you're you're you're you're in the floor

I'm how can it's how can't you I'm I'm to make

to make to the house this this situation so He started to repeat it many

And he said, Where is the Luna? Where is that Luna? Where? She'd get her catita and he like he'd gotrava and that's like

to help us in one occasion standing Sandra that's her mom in the work, her companyers did her own

that she didn't get her and one of his friends and she said oh yeah Sandra what you see

I've been very preoccupated has feltado the job and is that he's he's that he's a situation

of My son is having problems in the school, problems well, but when

he describes that he's he's seen, that's doing things very raras, she said, I think you

know that you need a but no help a medical. You need a help or

that your child do you make a little obviously Sandra no

they're nothing of this and he says, I don't think in these

things. Obviously what my he's he's going is that

he's in an age a day where he did know that he

he's you know you know she's she she'd that's day that

her she's getting to the house waiting to get to the

school and when he came to get to the house I encounter

a disaster horrible the the salon the the

cell of the the silles this spuma maria regada

for all the place the platos rotos quadros

in the piece a thing a thing a lot of a disaster,

like if you've passed a hurricane in. she says, when she says, when she sees, that's alarm much, Much of fear

to be something to see that the door at the door

is there was inked a middle of the he said he

he's he's he he got the and he got and he he was

and he he said I'm I'm I'm not I'm I'm And she had a

count that the man of Diego were they were in the

and you know he's he's he's lastimed if he

auto lastimed no I go back to be in one of the

tentederos of the and there was there was luna collated

with a with a with a head that went from from

his stomach with all exposed had had been

the life of his mascot that he he he's

he said mom I'm I'm no I'm know I

know I'm but I'm she she she did

point of that something that something I'm unfortunately

he know a person of the same he

he said your he needs a liberation and I know the place adequate

for to be able to get there. There was a capilla, what was a

capilla, a congregation, a congregation, and he said, it's the place that

is the place. What what happened that the person, that used

they used and they used in his hands to imponels and could

to be authority over what was that was that was

Tant to the power that had the entity that was inside of his body, that a person in any other that was a saint, he sentia a presence malignant, quadros, there were this part where are the instruments, all of it started to get.

But, fortunately, he could be able to do that. After a session long, very, very fea, sinister, he could he could get of this

between commies passed the time passed on the years and the life of

this young of Diego he was to be more so reincorpor

to his normal in the school all was all was

the he gave the day of his year his

14 his mom came at the work happy,

content. Because his his birthday and he had a pastel.

He gets to the house, open the door, leave the pasta in the

and he starts to get to get to get a baby come I have

a surprise let's let me remember that he never back.

I don't he's what happened he He goes. Sobe the escaleras and

when he he's a his son with the cinturon in the coo.

Atted in the spaldar of his camera. Diego he had cuted

the life. Pasa the better. She doesn't what

did it. She supposed that had been been liberated,

that the things had Cessado no know what

happened She she was a time in depression And in that time that

was in depression he started to know that entities entered

to not me digas bro she they took the

and the other was to go to the other he was

a new never she was posable in his

rost and he He said, Acubertate what you you were to give to

remember you. Not you lamented something that you said you were to do.

Despired of the dream. And as a ball of a water fria

record what in his youth when he knew to the

father of his he did. Sandra, and I

let say Sandra Desperto and record that before that he

separated of the Papa of Diego assisted a ceremony to the

which pertenece the Papa of Diego and during the

moment of the substance hallucinogenas natural because they were

people something something something something something was participated

of a ritual in that Kermes, where she accepted that her descendency would

be given to the 14 years. And she termina this relato saying, I reced

without that I knew the father of my father of that I never, that

what I would be to cost what I am. 20 years after what he passed

to Diego. 20 years after? 20 years after. I still

condenando my actions of the past she she was even

before before to have when she was in relation with

her father what? He gave before that had

in the his mother she I'm I remember much

what said the father Gabriel Amor one of the

one of the that a person can't have possessions are some some different, but between them literal, this

says. Entregar to your product. Incluso, if it's before to conceive to say, it's your

and she's not, I don't, that's always, no, that's your primogenit so. No,

no, no, I mean, my, I'm, I'm, I'm, but,

but, But, but, other they're because she's because she

was in the influence of a substance natural or not but it was about the influence of a substance

and these entities were not of this. I think is that no me in the

Correo but but I know that they're a not a system

illegal a but chemica chemical, chemica also also also

There are some substances, obviously, those we know, or a plant of power, or some gongytos, or some raises. Yes, sure. And what is that,

and so, well, I what I say to the people is that if you're going to that type of things, you know, you're what you're doing. Exactly.

But, but very clear. No, you know, first learn to manage and then then you

decide if you want to get to get to the periferical but so so that's no

no no it's very complicated like the like the and all of that way is because

you don't play wika but I don't I don't I'm a

friend on your on your social is Photoshop bro number number

number with so so that there is yeah is I

yeah but but Oh, no, no, no, so you have to have to be careful. Yeah, to have to be careful, because if the stories, they're going, they're going to be graves. Yeah. You know, what's going to, the stories reales are,

um, are, um, are, um, are, um, are the, so, you're telling things like, like, that's, like, that is he, that's attacking to his companyer of classes. And just when you got to the time of, the, of, the, of, the, of, that were in these ways Rojas

He will quit what more he's got his own his own his own company

his the only thing the only something that's like to do that's exactly

it was like your regulator that I that I would be to help to

get to that's that's really that's I'm I'm said a

story to start this chapter feop so so

there there there a I mean, no, I don't want like, like,

like, like, you know, you know, you know, think it's that you're that's that

you're like, so much of the warren, no? Figate that,

well, there are some, so, yeah, yeah, so, so,

so, but not to call given, of, so, so, that they've

had been the solution a, ah, no, no, no, no,

no, so, There's actually, there's a thing that I very interesting, because just I was having some cases, the one of the Annabelle, et cetera. And I, you, of a repent, I said, ah, car.

Well, it's, as well, it's how it's the movie. Sure, 100. And I'm not sure. Because then the movie more terrorific. Of course, I have a muke Annabel, but not is

like the movie, because the movie is more terrorific. The other has to to tell the history. But there's a detail very important in the story of Annabelle,

that I like much that's a moment in that you get you've you've seen

you're this that's this of the I've seen that I see the that I'm

yeah yeah these these people get to the little

and at the little when they says your name that you do that

through through so yeah it's encated with the

hands like on the but but the muke that has

these parts of plastic or of ceramic we're going to

let's move and put it in a position but how you're in a position in a car and resando to a muke of a trapo

so it was something a normal and me it's a thing that's a very interesting but that

you're just a lot of it's and to be a chaffa yeah and I understand

the decision of the the creators not of that's and also and also I'm

I'm there many there are there there is one where they're going to

help Yeah, but no we can't. Okay, me interested. This is a case that's a part of a particular

but those that I'm going to to pay, you're going to is that we'll forget, because no has much to

do that. Of course, no, it's nothing to do that. Yeah, yeah. That's the

story of Arn Cheyenne Johnson. In the the movie is known as the devil, the demon,

I'm obligo to do it, I'm obligo to do it, and he is murmurating, that never passed.

The history, I don't see if a time the film they can be to come back

for that's to come over to the actual to the story real, but the history real, and

that's real, and so they can be documented, is distinct. In the history, what

occurs, that me is super incredible, especially what he is the name David.

David. Arn, in a novi, his Prometida, and apart to tell you want to

talk to a supermetia that's called Debbie, Debbie Glatzel. Yes. So, they're in

this relation. So, are in other times, it's a place more more conservative. The things

are different that we know what we can't think of a lot of a relation of this

type. For the creences that have the family of Debbie, well, is something

absolutely serious. And Arne So, it's a lot of something serious, the relation that they have with them, and, also, the fact of that they're in that they're in, they decide

do, do you know, that's when Arn, he pitae matrimonio. Now, yeah no is her noviour. Now is his promenital. And she has, her manito, David, that in that moment, has eight years of age.

For him, for Arn, Well, David is a super cool because, well, because, well, it's a final

will be being part of their family too. There's a thing that and more remember us,

we're going to, 1,081. No, it's like to go to the way, and you're going to

get to get to a person and you say, oh, yeah, that's your dad

not, no, well, my papa is an architect, this, my mom

is a writer galdonada, I'm studying at university, And my hermanita minor,

was posseed for the demon or not not to do that's simply are things

that more in this then you maintain in private. Yes. The mom

of David and David was convinced totally of that David was

under this situation that is a possession demoniac see

fiat that never he never for what reason an nine of

eight years I'm posseid for a demonio? What happened?

That can have a lot of responses to this. But no we know.

So, when he's when he is a situation, is when he

is super rarro. Although he is credent, he he not think that

is possible that that he knows, David, that he knows too, of course,

he's supposed that they say, that is posited for the

demon. But David said some things that were very rare. For example,

he was well, and he's been one day to another, they're some visions, and they

start to occur to certain things that are those that are the that he is the

he's posited for the demon. He's said that's these are

so. For the nights I've heard and I had a Olor.

That odor was an color to and there was a night of the night and he'd

he'd that's a man old of the eyes negros with the

skin almost totally chema he was he was obviously he caused

fear but more fear he'd when this vision not was not a

vision of was there there, Caminaba And when Caminaba, Caminaba

Rarro. Because the patas not are humanas. Okay. They were patas

of animal. So, he and he began to grittar. He was disvancy

this vision. But in a moment, it was to be a piece of a little

more. When this man Alto Kimado with PIRnas of animal

he he says to him and he says so, very very

very and take care. He he's to get and when

the mom will be this this new David has

in the body has these markers that are from

from the people who can so who could

have made he have not amatom is so

but not only in those in the arms, in the spada, in the nalgas,

in the pyrna, this boyce, he begins to suffer and pass of that this man, that he says, in this occasion, take care, he goes to get a second, like, he was getting a force, and

he's acerca, normally to him, and he says, I'm going to give me your alma. In that moment, the mama

he does know that something that's going to his and

contrary to what many people think, not was for his creents

religious that said, he said for the demonio. No, no, no,

no, no. He was he was he goes. And the psychologists start to to talk

with David because these visions, they say certainly has been with a

thing to do a thing, a little someone abus to him, a

more he's receiving bullying, commis to submit to submit to a lot of

analysis and they do you there are nothing that they can't make

to help to help that David, that with his little those, between the

because no there, I repeat. All all, everything and then of

everything and then he had this pain this pain something that makes be a

physical, mental, but no doesn't is the mama desperated because this is growing in intensity acude with the sacerdote

of the church local he comment to what is happening this sacerdote is interested for the supposed will be to

David and David is there is there totally normal when he says

that says that says the The sacerdote prefer not to be a respect. Because one

one is what you can tell a little that that's normal

when when he's to start to be that and in that

moment something something something was a thing was a

very evident like something that something that the entity

was there and this sacerd he does know that he's

about David is more than that he could do

He could say something an liberation but this entity went more that's

because this entity had the capacity to be a discretion to move things and you're

about a kid. It's ultra-grave so ultra-grave then he says

I don't help you but here is where he's where they're in the Warren

I know I know a parent in that then that I think I can't

you can say Imagineate. The mom has any idea of who is Ed and Lorraine

Warren and he's a lot of whatever but they're to help meh immediately

they're they're they're when they're saying what he's saying this sacerdote

that he's a same we're going to get to see a David and they're

to be a family and it is supposed according that he he gets like

he gets like he's immediately says that he something, because she had these

capacities but Ed is a sceptic, like he thinks that the family want to make the attention. So,

then they're when, when, of a repent, they say, we can't to talk with the

little, yes, he gets a David, he's to sit with them, they're in

the kitchen, and Lorraine see as the little, there's like an entity

oscura like a human that comes to, like to involve it, like to

to have to to be, and And they're being while they're asking

and this that's there, he, he's to retar to Ed and the

reign. What is what he does? Front to him, he'llpe a David.

No is that he's not that he's the question, but his

body, as when when when he gets he's there

and they're to make to markars like if it

would have has arraigned like if he had been he's

like he he's seeing and they're seeing this and

they're like thinking that Lorraine evidently you know that's

that's something but Ed still to give his doubts

and they're they're when David, the after they they're after they

get called he's first to grunier and then he's

commenced to silvar. This is what does it is to silvar immediately both Lorraine as Ed they can

know that there is a demonio that's these entities have the capacity of the medium

not is not is silvando because is silvando because of some code that is a

he and Lorraine something something that the that the little that the

little bit then they're there taking his attention and

Ed he's he he he he's he he

and then David commences to recital and recitals of the

Bible and of the paris said that yeah

for this point because the things escalar no

rapid David that he first first with this

vision of the Humber Kemado, you not only that this.

This entity changed, mutable. A sometimes was a man

a man with a animal. A sometimes was a insect

gigante. Others Tantas was a animal monstrous. A sometimes

was a person was a guy a total, this entity and so he was

to be to be a David said that had 43 macabras personalities.

Wow. Could be any of these things. That was really a attention that there was an insectoid there. It's very rare.

But, well, Eddie Lorraine, fission, that this is the part that's the part that nobody knows of the story. There's more

details that if if it's there were there, that were there, that's not that they're that they're

that they're to know that this is real what you what you're what you ask? They say to the mom

we're also we don't we can't do nothing because this case is real I'm sorry

but we have we're still another that's that is it is a very top in the

Vatican and we we're going to be that he can be but in the first

but he has to help to do you have much care to this person he gets

to the day the next, Tomo a flight, he gets at the three of the

morning of the day of the day of the time. And the time. It's

a 20-tant hours in getting. When he gets, yeah, Ed and Lorraine yeah

and they're in. But he blah, blah, blah, blah. Sacredote, Vatican, exorcista, et cetera.

A-be to start the first to the child. I want to see his papers of psychologics,

et cetera, and he does a point that's front a real of a of a

position. And he says to the mama. We're going to have to do an exorcism. Yeah. Because this that's not manifesting in his son, has been much force.

Yeah. And it's growing very rapid. So, so his son small, we have to do this as soon as possible. Necessito that me help. And he he says, that, for

favor, when it's the process, there are other people, because he is of Italy. And you're just here. That there are other people of faith that want to David

that can help in the process. So, evidently, he said to Debbie, the armada of David, and he says to Arne,

the Prometido of Debbie. For favor, helpen me. And he says, well, I mean, it's like

rare, no? We're in an exorcism. Still, I don't existia the film in the exorcist. I mean, it was like

a common. Yeah. But he's that they're going to help to David and he he said

to help to David and he and he he's the process. Commience

the oration to get the water and say he's a normal to get

to get to get to get to grunier and and he and

he says hey agarren for that he so that he's not you

lastime to every every get to a arm you

deten the of while I continue. Yeah. Diga what say, yore,

grite, patale, no degen that's not that they're to let me for that you can't continue. Sure.

Tommel with force. And that's they're doing. Yeah. And then they're taking to the

little for that he is a grittando grunyinginging contortioning and this person still on like

like if no, no pass to nothing, you know, continue, continue, continue,

continue, the mom is in panic. Davy, his Prometida is in panic and he

is observing this what is going how David is that lastiming. Yes, if they're

those the wessos even. Yes. They're they're so, and he

think, but this this man is bad, but of the head.

He has a problem and he needs this and these people

my Prometida, my Sueger, and this a sacerdote they're

going to the play in a little a child. I'm

to have to do you want to get to to do. If we're going to

die. Then he'll occur to something and grita. Abandoned

his body and he take the my and in this moment

all all all all all all he looked at and he said

what's he's done he's done he's he he he

he he goes to his he convinced and he and then

he and he he he he he he's

he in him and he's in me list psychology psychology.

He not is posseed he he's that he's that's posseal. And yeah

with this I'll do you do you call to his house and that

first night he had a a pesadia that a man that a man

that he's with the eyes and the little and

he he's he says he He says that despite to

start, or he's a great, he's he does know that he's to get a

think he's grotesque. In the edificio in the building in the person, there was

a person that was his house, his department that was known in the United

so they was called as the casero. And, and it was his family.

I was not her so, so, He'd say, oh yeah, pass at the house, we've done a Cervicita, we've been, they've done a good relation. He said that, de-repan, he's called? Yes.

Ah, more or less. Empeas'd to pass these situations, of that he's a lot, but more than the dreams, were the things that he never had had this type of, of the pensions, he'd never been thinking

to things, for say the simple, grotesque. A day Regresses To work This person has a reunion In case

And he says Ahn Passat to a turn a You take a Cervicita With us And he says

No, I'm very I'm very I'm very Cansado I'm I'm We'll come

And then He's a Cases To sleep When he When he When he Abre the

Ohos When the Policeia It's It's It's a color metal. What

what occurs in that lapse, between that he's to be able the eyes is the

the next. Arn, of a repent, enter to his kitchen, take a

a cuchillo, he's out of your house, enter to the house where is the reunion,

now there's a lot of people, but there are a lot of people, go directly with

his friend and his he's rare when he says, you're doing, before, before, to say

any minute, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, the people grita,

they're, they're, they're, but what they're, not is that they're, he,

he, he's, he's, he, he's, he's, but nobody can't

the movement of his arm, exactly. This person cae and there two

things that the medics forenses those perit narrs and that me

make extraordinary. One, there is a cut of the that is so

that's that's that that's the prece the sternon

the and he he back to the stomach in a only

imagine the force the force. Then, continue and he's

clavowing the cuchillo when evidently the person has fallen to the police and when

the police gets, that all the department, they're in the people,

when they're they're like a silence. And the only that's a

sound on the metal against the piece back, back,

pack, and when they enter, he continues cortando, metying these these these gulfes, but

has lacerado so the body, that the cuchillo is talking, the point directly against the piece. The piece. It's a scene terrible. Yeah, very grotesque.

Grotesca. And when they're with him, he gritts, and all, he, de repent, he's detain and when he he

doesn't know what has he has he he no he's

no he's he how many times how many times he

he's he the person evident they're they're they're

and it's a case very famous because what the abogado

try to protect to to protect to his client

what says is that not it's not of a

anger of the but simply is a case of possession

demoniac where this entity to castigar Arn utilised his body

to make an act that and and simply destroy in the

life I'm I'm that this is here is a called Alam

Bono that this is something that me I'm that

you know what you know what you He came in his juice the first

in the history of a possession of a moniac what's the what's he's

evidently is culpable is, is culpable there we know of the history

well, almost almost almost there people that people

that see found of a very interesting imagine imagine

an a crime of this this we're let's let

let the possession of moniac yeah the The fact, it's a crime in atrocious. In many states, Skidna Perpetua, in other states, 25 years minimum. Minim.

How much time you think you're in the carcels? Arn Cheyenne Johnson. In the reality? Yes. How many? Five. He gave 10, and his condena, and his condociedna,

so, to get to five years. But here came the question, still the actual the fact more interesting

that you think that happened with Arn Cheyenne Johnson when

he was in prison I consider to get to that he in

some he decided no to terminate with his

life no what he he did he he

he he he because he was in prison so

David as his mother and as they knew they knew that nobody more

knew that in effect not was a criminal only only was a

young that committed a gravisim error but that Gravissimo error.

But that in a way, too, he saved

a David. Cumple his condo and when came, and when

he came with Debbie and they are so you consider? You consider

that he was a position real? I knowle. I think an

influence not a position. Is that what What is a possession? I think...

I think... I think... ...so... ...for the force and the description that did you... That's not an influence. Yeah, is to have a little bit of a possession, then.

To have a final finis needs to be an exorcism or a liberation. No, he did? I think that I'm... Okay? I'm...

I'm convinced that he's... Uh-huh. ...le practicer a exorcism, a liberation? Okay. For what he's a... ...that has... Yes, yeah.

And then, but that's not in the part of the story. No, and I think if it's not going to

say, no they're going to do you know, I think they're like that's interred, you know. It's that

is a final very, I'm quite strange, super, it's that's like, no, no, no paso no.

No, no? No, no? We're going to make a person that has committed,

so the police says that, for the most it was, for the least it was, it was to have been X number of the cortes with the kuchillo. And they say, but why that quantity, and why

don't know exactly how much? Because, not know, was it was destroyed, it was. It was destroyed the body. I mean, it was. Yeah, no way to count. Exactly. How much were. Imagine a person who never

had done a lot violent, of a sudden, to do something extremely grotesco, powerful, I mean, with a lot This force and with with a lot of violence,

with a maldade. I think that was the antecedent no, a person that had

that was a type of dark and they were to have a first to have a performance

and I feel like that's that I'm really, what he did so he did

because this demon wanted to a David not a he, not a he's he said, he said

the words corrects Tomamam me. Yeah, let him to him Cabro

Fepo Saz how did you have You know what you passed after bro? Uff, super well. Oh,

yeah, the capitulo that's a good, I'm sure I'm sure that much people, really much

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tell you. No, no, you said, oh, you know, I don't know what I'm

saying, I'm going to know what you know what I'm going to know because it's a matter.

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