EXTRA ANORMAL - Estigmas Malignos: Marcas del Diablo en el Cuerpo Ft Santiago Segovia | NoEsNormal.Tv

Episode Date: August 3, 2025

En este impactante episodio de NoEsNormal.Tv, Paco Arias conversa con Santiago Segovia sobre un fenómeno tan inquietante como perturbador: los estigmas malignos.💀 Marcas misteriosas que aparecen en la piel sin explicación.👁️ Señales atribuidas a pactos, maldiciones o ataques demoníacos.🩸 Historias de personas que despertaron con heridas, símbolos y quemaduras que parecen salidas del mismísimo infierno.Descubre la diferencia entre un estigma religioso y un estigma oscuro, las teorías detrás de este fenómeno y casos reales que ponen los pelos de punta.⚠️ Si alguna vez has encontrado una marca inexplicable en tu cuerpo… este episodio te hará pensar dos veces antes de dormir.📌 Suscríbete y activa la campanita para más historias, entrevistas y testimonios de lo que NO es normal.

There are many rumors about what was done in here. This is pathetic. Here in the Sun Pond, the important politicians of Mexico did extremely shady things. It feels very strange. In the Mazons they have codes and when you break those codes I don't know how unstable this place is. You have to receive a punishment. So when you break those codes, I don't know how unstable this place is.

You have to receive a punishment. Your punishment gives you a choice, if you want to do it yourself or someone else. This is where Fernando Saldana Galvan ended his life. I'm Get that familiar conwest and Sam bienvenidos a un sabado más de no es normal punto TV How are you family? Welcome to another Saturday of NoesNormal.TV. My name is Paco Arias and I'm happy to be with all of you today in a new studio. Well, we're in a studio that's been loaned. We talked to the guys there who gave us their studio to see if they could lend it to us. Because if you don't follow us on Instagram, you should have realized that we don't have the podcast anymore.

Many thought that we had already left and that this project was going to end. I can tell you that yes, there was something that ended. The third season ended because the fourth season of ExtraNormal Podcast is coming in a few days, the fourth season of Podcast Extranormal and if you want to see the farewell video that was made, I invite you to go and visit the official account of podcastextranormal.com in, sorry, podcastextranormal on Instagram and there you will see what we uploaded because it was very funny, many people thought that the project was over because if we dramatize a little bit, then if you want to see that farewell, go see it, it will be quite interesting and we are working on something that will be a surprise, so I invite you to be very attentive or very attentive to the next few days because we are about to inaugurate the fourth season of this great podcast. And today, on Saturday, it's not normal,

because we already told you this little secret, to you, the fans of Hueso Colorado, who are with us every week, you know, many people don't believe it, but they wrote to me even in private, saying, Paco, no, how is it possible that the podcast ends? Don't do that to us. So, no, not at all.

We have a normal podcast, for a long time. Entonces, no, para nada. Tenemos podcast extra normal, pa mucho tiempo, entonces, ustedes, relájense, no pasa nada. Y hoy estoy contento porque tenemos un tema muy interesante y es un tema que sobre todo es un misterio. Nosotros vamos a estar contando muchas historias que giran alrededor de estos estigmas que suelen normally, well, let's say it like that, provoked by darkness. We have many very interesting topics and for this occasion we also have a very special guest that in a moment I will present, but at this moment we are going with the intro of this live. Go ahead please. There are wounds that heal over time and there are others that should not be there. intro Some call it possession, others witchcraft.

Some say it's the price for seeing something you shouldn't. Tonight we're going to talk about those marks, the ones the body carries, but science doesn't explain. Stories where the paranormal didn't stay in a whisper or a shadow. Stories where the invisible left a mark. Welcome to It's not normal, the space where I miss it is a habit. And today, together with Santiago Segovia, we are going to open a conversation that maybe leaves you with something more than fear. Because this time, the terror is not only heard, this time it feels in the skin. Voces del Terror aquí en México y que de verdad nos honra mucho aquí su visita en nuestras tierras de Tuxtepec.

Amigo Santiago ¿Cómo estás? ¿Qué tal? ¿Cómo estamos? Muchas gracias por la invitación. ¿Cómo estás amigo? Muy bien, muy bien. Gracias por aceptar la invitación. Yo sé que mucha gente ya ha visto tu contenido, te ha visitado por allá, que hay parte de la familia de relatos y de extraordinary, that there is part of the family of stories and extraordinary that by the way I want you to see this great gift that all the production of Santiago makes us Santiago that

details see what a beautiful fusion thank you very much proud to carry it friend for the people who are also getting to know you for the first time I would like you to please present social networks projects that is how we are Relatos por Santiago Segovia, on all platforms, Paco. And we invite you to see the contents that go up week after week. And well, we brought you this little detail thanks also to our designer, Fabi, who created the logo, the fusion of Relatos with... Greetings to Fabi, who created the logo, the fusion of stories.

Greetings to Fabi, who is here. Thank you very much, friend. There we are. Hey, family, I want to mention something because today this live has been very complicated, many things have happened. Well, number one, something nice, we don't have the studio of extraordinary, because it's a surprise for all of you. And two, an accident happened in a few streets of the studio. A person in high alcohol tolerance took a poster of light, so he left practically a large part of all this without the internet, so we are transmitting for the grace and work of our Lord Jesus Christ

because we did the impossible to have at least a little bit of a signal, so you will notice that suddenly there will be an error forgive us family, really, forgive us, but I promise you that it will be the last time because if we are trying these things they come out completely in our hands. That's right, and apart because it's something live that is not planned and notice that today we also got a good scare with the earthquake that we feel. They are asking at this moment how they are, how they are after the earthquake, because if, well, tell them how it was for you. Hey, we are at the house of Haciel's mom, we are enjoying some delicious chilaquiles and this delicious chocolate. And suddenly Haciel says, welcome to Oaxaca.

And I see that his family comes out and I thought someone was coming, a relative. I already imagined that it was a very dear relative because the whole family came out. On the street. And when the chair of the table rises, that's when we feel how it moves. The floor moved there, and we stopped there. But believe me, for us, it's the first time we've lived this experience. There in the north, well, there have been certain movements, very slight. And you realize because the seismological system says, hey, it shook so many kilometers to the

jaw and you say, well, I didn't feel it, nothing, but like 2.1 or something like that. No, Monkey, no. But we had that experience today. Okay, friend, just like for the people who were asking on social networks, we are fine, everything is fine, thank God, everything, nothing happened, there was no loss, at least they have not made any notice that there were human prides? We will be talking in a little while more. Even the podcast family sent us some special questions for you. Now. Because we do this dynamic every week,

that people share their questions for all our guests. So let's talk a little bit before getting to the topic. Paranormal as a researcher, friend. what was the last place you were, Santiago, where you went to investigate? We were at a train station in Hipólito. There are certain details, Paco, as an investigator, that have happened to me, right? Many times you don't see the ghost flying, but there is a certain sensitivity. I remember that day, originally we were going to the cemetery of that place, Hippolyte, which in those years when there was the railroad was a very important place. Because there the railroad machines were repaired.

In fact, there is a table that they is a round table where the machines were placed. There was a series of garages with several doors. The table was to direct which garage that machine entered. There were three railroads. It was very important. Of course, the railways were gone, and the town was gone. We were really going to do an investigation in the cemetery. Yes. Well, the boy was lost, they couldn't find him. And this boy was found dead in that stream, in that river. What happened there?

That it still continues to happen there. And they captured this man and he said he was the devil. He said he was the devil. They say that in those years, and many years ago, that they lit this man on fire and he was making fun of him. They say they buried him in the cemetery where we were going. They made a well, they didn't put a tomb or anything. They made a well and buried his remains there.

They say the next day the remains were outside. So the older people went to bury it. They say, but we don't know if they left it there in the cemetery or took it to another place. We were going there and it was still like six in the afternoon. And the station of Ferrocarril de Hipólito caught my attention. It is an alley in the municipality of ramosarisp, next to saltillo. Well, it turns out that it caught my attention, I got into the station of ferrocarril and abandoned, and in the area where the tickets were sold in the past and the area of ​​that would be the waiting area,

I felt as if someone was there hidden, you have that feeling. You say, oh, there's someone here. Well, I felt that feeling. There was no one. We went out and did the investigation in the cemetery. I tell in stories, my experience in that railway station, what I had felt and I start receiving comments from people.

I say, Santiago, there appears a witch named Doñeta who says, in fact, she offered her son to give the devil a great treasure. And they say that the son is found dead on the railways, as if something had dragged him. Then we said, you know what, the production, we said, you know what, the other weekend we came exclusively to that station of the railroad, and already with more equipment to detect all this, and well, look, we were there,

and in the spirit box, in fact, it confirms the name of Toñeta. We put a blessed sirius, which is a protection that must always be lit. The sirius was consumed in an incredible way, as never before. The sirius was extinguished about four times. I took out a prayer book and I said, I know this is going to bother you, right? I read the prayer, I leave it there, I take out the cuenco, you know that this noise bothers these beings, and hey, while I'm ringing the cuenco, the book flew It flew towards Syria so that it would burn. Yes. This book of prayers would burn. And we captured some plasmations on the wall of this railway station

that is abandoned. But some plasmations of a demon. God. That was the last one I've been on. How strong when in the stories they name these little ones, right? I mean, the fact of attacking their lives against the most vulnerable,

people who have no way of defending themselves. It always makes me very sad. What do you think, people who are crazy, or people who are sick of their mental faculties, who make such drastic, strong decisions as to give their own children to have a favor from some evil entity? It's that many times, Paco,

I've heard cases where I think that there's a demonic influence among these people. Instead of seeing their son, they see a demon who they want to kill. I heard in the news that a woman had taken her son's eyes off with a spoon. Oh, right. I know that case. A spoon that, in fact, later... This... A girl who had been in a prison, they send her to that prison and they send her to that cell. She didn't know who they had sent her to.

It was new, of course, the ones who were there. She says, hey, where am I going to sleep? And everything. But there was a woman who always watched me. Always. She was very afraid of me. She says, and on one a woman who always watched me, always, she was very afraid. He says, and on one occasion I found a notebook because I saw that she was writing notes, and I was on the list, as if I was going to do something.

Then he says, I went with the director of the prison to talk to her, who that woman was, and it turns out that it was that same woman who had taken her son's eyes off. And she asked for her change of cell. She said, I don't know what I'm going to do. But I say that many times it's these demonic influences that make you do things. Of course. And how is it going to happen?

We've heard it many times, young people who say, no, it's just that it was a demon. I didn't see my grandmother, I didn't see my mother. It was really something scary, what wanted to attack me. I said, no, es que era un demonio. Yo no veía a mi abuelita, yo no veía a mi mamá. Era realmente algo espantoso lo que me quería atacar a mí. Yo recuerdo mucho que me preguntaban hace unos meses cuando estaba yo en una entrevista que me decían, de todos los fenómenos paranormales, ¿cuál te da mucho miedo?

Y es un poco complicado, ¿no? normal is what scares you a lot. And it's a bit complicated, isn't it? Sometimes, choosing one of so many that there are. But I said, without a doubt, it would be, I think, the possession of a doll. Because it's when, really, all your being, all your person, even the people you love, you get to know them. And as you mention, you don't see your son, you don't see your wife, you don't see your mom or your grandmother. You see something else. And the worst is when the tragedy happens, when you already acted in a supernatural way and you discover what you did.

There are people, and I don't justify them, but there are people who, after all this happened, they don't know what happened. And the pain and despair of knowing that you did this, or with your own hands you took someone's life so close to you. It's such a strong pain that they end up so well, ending with themselves. Exactly. Yes, look, I was talking about...

There are many things related to this, with this kind of demonic influences that people sometimes... We have seen in the news, but unfortunately there is no place where they can, many times they say, hey, you have schizophrenia, it is internalized in psychiatric hospitals and it is sealed all the time. That's right. No, no, it is important to discern if you really have a psychological or spiritual problem.

So, they always tell you to keep it there, sealed. There was a person, I went to an annex, an annex, I was invited by a psicólogo a entrevistar a una mujer. Ella sufría así como de este tipo de inflancia demoníaca. Tú hablabas con la persona, la persona pues sí estaba muy metida, bueno ya tenía tiempo en el anexo, en la cuestión de sustancias, verdad, estaba ella, ella, su familia, very involved in all that. But she had been there for months. And as they say, it's clean, right?

And I talked to the lady, very kind, very humble. She said, no, I'm here, I'm very grateful. She said that they attacked her in a marriage. First, she said that they wanted to protect her. They wanted to protect her. And they were inside her, and they were like, I have you in front of me, you know. And I said, well, can we talk to that lady?

Because she said that it was a marriage, that the woman was a very famous singer, and the man was a very important business man. They had a baby, but the baby had been unborn since he was very young, he was sick. So she said she saw that baby, and when I asked her, how do they contact you with this marriage? Why do they say they want to take care of you?

The lady looked down at Paco, and when she turned around, it was another woman. It was another woman. It was the woman that that very important opera singer in Mexico City was talking to. She even crossed her legs. You were looking at another woman, totally different, and I was very amazed.

I was very amazed at I was very amazed by how he spoke to me. He was not the woman that was there, but an elegant woman from society. So, I thought, I'm going to influence

to do something bad against her. There are many cases, friend, where people who have an influence and I am going to generalize, an evil influence, there are certain traits that remain in their body. For example, I am going to put a very quick example because we are going to see several. The example of Annelise Mitchell, we have already talked many times about this case. One of the cases that inspires one of the best movies

that talks about the demon-possessed theme. And we see how these people from nowhere are being injured. And let's see, there is something that I want to mention, because I even talked about this with people, exorcist priests. And it is that they mention that many times the possession is caused by these injuries, they self-injure, but there are very small cases where they are seeing the skin, for example they see a part of the abdomen, the back and see that these wounds form on their own, out of nowhere. There is no cause of this, you only see how the skin opens up and these wounds form. The movies show us sometimes that words, phrases are formed, no, they are only wounds,

but the incredible thing about this is that there is no apparent reason for all this to form. So what do you think about that? Exactly. Look, well, this case of this girl is said to be the Church, that it is said to be a divine permission. Because she is very involved in the Church, she is consecrated to God. And she says that she is given a divine permission, as happened to her case of Job, who was a very rich man, and the devil says, No, how can he deny you, sir, if he has everything?

And God gives him that permission, and he says, Well, get into his family matters, but don't touch his family or him, and all the cattle he had died and did not deny God. Even the last one gets into it with him, who says that he had and did not deny God, even the last one gets in with him, who says that he is sick and this and he did not even deny it, so they talked about this case of this young man who had made a divine permission but notice that many times Paco there are films that reveal... There is a particular movie that tells us about the whole process of exorcism. It's called The Sages of Evil, and it's not a very old movie, but it's also very new.

There it names all the phases. It's a story in real life. A New York researcher and a priest. The movie is called The Sages of Evil, and it shows you all the phases of an exorcism, of how he himself gets hurt, and at the end you say, hey, poor guy, how do they leave him? How much suffering?

But I tell you, that of influences that can also end someone's life. I met a young man. They sent me a report of a house that was abandoned, a very big house. They said, a young man died there in Santiago. They say you can hear noises at night. A month later, I got a call from a person. He said, I got a call from someone.

I was listening to him, and he said, I thought a lot about talking to him. He said, look, that young man was my nephew. But he was 100% convinced, Paco, that he was an influence, that he was motivated to do that, to self-defeat. And I say, but how? He says, look, he lived with my mother, this nephew of mine. So most of the days of the week I went to eat with my mother and I ate with him. So I was very related to him and you did the homework, the young man was in high school,

and you did the homework, no, yes, uncle, and this and that, and so on, he says, suddenly one day I arrived and he was not at the table, I said to my mother, hey, where is Felipe? He says, no, Felipe is there in his room and I went and opened and there he was lying down, I said, hey, are you hungry? I said, yes, uncle, I'm going now, and then I went back to eat with my mom, and Felipe wasn't there. He said, Felipe is in his room. He said, that's weird. He said, grandma, it's weird. I went to Santiago, the light was off. I turned it on, and he was lying in bed. What's wrong? Are you feeling bad?

He said, no, man, I'm leaving. He said, after that, the light was off, and he couldn't see anything in his bedroom, because he had these curtains, right? Nothing lighted up. And he said, the voice that Santiago answered me, wasn't my nephew's. He said, I immediately turned on the light, I mean, who else is there? And it was my nephew.

He says, but it was already a drastic change in the attitude, in how he looked at me, I mean, like a challenging look, angry at this young man. Yes. Yes, he says, I was scared. He says, three days later, he made that decision, but he says, I think, Santiago, that it was a good idea to do this. How strong.

It's just that many people themselves obviously do things that they are not aware of, and to start, let's talk about a topic about these brands. If you can help me, please, production, which is the first one you are going to put out there? Let's see. Okay. That is very there. Let's see.

OK. That's very interesting. It's a case. I'll invite people to look for cases of this man, who is Giorgio Boniovanni. This person, this happens, well, to start in 1989, September, in Italy. This person, out of nowhere, began to present these stigmas, specifically in the areas where Jesus Christ was injured.

I mean, all the wounds, the nails, on the forehead. Well, in the case of Giorgio, in his forehead is the cross and he also presents the wounds as if they were the nails in the hands, palm of the hands, in the feet and this person, the interesting thing is what happens before these wounds are manifested. He says that this happens after affirming having had a vision of the Virgin of Fatima who asked him to spread his message of conversion, justice and preparation for the return of Christ. He mentions that after having this encounter he began to present these wounds, which by the way way they bleed periodically. So it's interesting because for the skeptics, even for the

believers, this is a mystery. Even for the Vatican itself, this kind of stigmas are not usually completely a real fact or a holy fact as many times they make it seen since for some people some believers mention that it can be a supernatural fact or even a miracle or it is like a mark for those men and women who are chosen to be able to carry these messages. But for some believers, even skeptics and critics, they mention that they are wounds that are made by themselves. And for some people, and this is interesting, who study the demonological theme,

they mention that these people, influenced by these spirits, do these wounds. But it's not a fact like the previous one, like they want to do it probably to get attention, if they want to embrace it, they are not influenced by a evil entity. Like a mockery. Exactly.

So it's one of the most interesting cases. I invite people to look for more information about this case because there is more information. What stands out about this are these famous wounds in areas where the nails of Jesus pierce their body, hands, feet. There are people who also have these wounds on their sides where the Bible tells us that Jesus is

pierced by a spear and well in the forehead above all I remember that there are other cases also of this type of stigmas that are saints in quotes and I say with great respect that when they are having these let's say that the wounds open they do not start bleeding. The smell of the red vital liquid is like roses. Because this happens in some cases because it supposedly represents that it is a holy act. It is not something that happened to the body caused by the human being. Since it is a holy act that marks those chosen in that case by God, in the case of this man, Giorgio, by the Virgin of Fatima. What do you think of this, my friend?

Notice that there is a case, it is said that the first stigmatized was San Francisco de Asís. I was talking to people who know, who are watching us and listening to us at the moment, in the gente que conoce que no sabiendo in the second one to know the real de 14 San Luis Potosi well magico donde se venera a San Francisco as is la la iglesia no es de el es de la Sagrada de la Concepción ok pero pero siempre ha sido venerado por San Francisco de hecho es tanta las personas que van el 4 de octubre que es el of San Francisco, that is very related to Saltillo,

because they talk about a tragedy in 1972, the pilgrim train, where there were many dead, who gave houses, families disappeared, Paco, in Saltillo, whole neighborhoods were left alone, and it is a very venerado que todo el año tiene, tiene gente. Yo le decía a un sacerdote, le digo, ¿cuál es el milagro más grande de San Francisco de Asís, aquí en Real de Catorce? Dijo, pues que esta gente no, no murió de hambre, que los ha mantenido, porque ya es un pueblo mágico, visitado por muchísima, inclusive turistas internacionales. Sí. because it is already a magical town visited by many international tourists.

Yes. And I tell you, something happens with San Francisco Asís, there in Real de Catorce, where every year they change their garages, they change their clothes because they find it full of mud, the garages are also worn out. Of course. the some people, men and women, because the interesting thing about this is that it always happens when they have a supernatural encounter with, well, in the case of Giorgio, with the Virgin. What do you think about that? I interviewed her and she was stigmatized. But she was kind of hidden. Because she starts to feel that way. Through a dream, she has that vision, right? And she sees how her wounds are in her hands. The next day, she wakes up and sees blood in the savannah and sees his hands, sees his feet.

Oh, damn it. There's nothing she's going to do. It took several days to confess it, right, to talk about it. And she goes with the parish priest of the colony. The priest, instead of giving her a follow-up, the church often says, no, this can't be, you're not even that. That's right. He says, Santiago scolded me, and she was like, hidden, like she didn't want anyone to

know, she wore gloves, in the middle of the heat, saying, I'm not leaving my house with gloves on. So it was something bad for her that these stigmas came into her life. But she lived away from her neighbors, because she didn't want them to find out. I know a case that I was studying a long time ago, and something very similar happens, Fijate que es que yo conozco un caso que lo estuve estudiando hace mucho tiempo y ocurre algo muy similar porque le pasa a esta mujer que ya manifestaba incluso fue a hablar primeramente por el sacerdote con el sacerdote de su parroquia quien inicialmente

voy a decirlo vulgarmente la batió no la ignoró pero ella se ella se aferra a que I mean, she just publicly ignored her. But she's so attached to that this priest talks to the bishop or someone of higher hierarchy. And that's how the Vatican starts to study her case. And that's when she says that the wounds smell like roses. I mean, it's not the typical color, we know it's from the Vital Liquid, which is usually very metallic. This smells like roses. No, I have a most case of the liquid vital. It's always a moment. I can't. It's the well. It's a rosas.

He'll tell you. He must record. I'll just a minute. Porque tu lo platica también. It's just a person. Subita, you know, will be the same. Porque de ella, si es que era empleada. And I will look at.

Trabajaba. Pero he said momentous. Donde empieza a brotar. Or simply as a leader. It's the liquid vital. He had to sell. Cool. Tarlo's. It's a vendor. Last man. And there are moments when this liquid starts to sprout, or this liquid starts to come out, and so on. And there, they started to hide it, they started to bandage their hands, they bandaged their foreheads, because also...

I mean, it's a very strange fact, my friend. And there's no such thing as a verdict as to what this is, no? Because science... What science says, or well, the skeptics too, obviously, is that this is done by themselves. I mean, there is no way. But the Vatican has a department, like with the monologic and exorcism theme,

that also studies miracles. And obviously, there are films that show us this, but in reality, yes, because not all miracles usually, I mean, what is said is that not all miracles are Películas que nos muestran también esto pero en la realidad sí porque no todos los milagros suelen O sea lo que se habla es que no todos milagros son Provinientes de de dios también hay milagros que ocurren por entidades malignas Dicen que el diablo también hace milagros también tiene poder también hay poder Ahora sí que hay gente que le pida al diablo y le cumple o sea es obvio que el diablo tiene poder entonces es el detalle no de que estos departamentos que tiene la the devil and he fulfills it, it is obvious that the devil has power, so it is the detail

that these departments that the Vatican has, sorry the church, study all this. Of course, of course, I knew a case, well, not of stigmas but of miracles, to canonize Juan Pablo II, these are in Zacatecas. You know that Zacatecas is a pretty cold place. At that time in Saltillo we were at 15 degrees below zero. Now imagine Zacatecas.

Everything was burning. Even the nopales were burning. Everything was burning. There was a tree that when Pope Juan Pablo II visited, he planted it. Nothing happened to the tree. And there is a boy near that community, his name is John, but they know him as the Miracle. Because, imagine, this young man was, I tell you from the investigation that the Vatican does,

this young man was a child, he was exhausted. The doctors told him to take him home so that they could say goodbye to him. I don't know, two or three days that he would be alive. Take them. And in that, the wife hears that Pope John Paul II is going to visit Zacatecas and she tells her husband. She says, come on, woman, imagine all the people who are going to go. Of course, it's not going to be a chaos. They're not going to see us, he says, let's go. And they take the child, they take him, they arrive at the airport, imagine an impressive number of people there.

The lady tells him, hey, it's as if the Pope was waiting for us. We arrived to Merida, we didn't know how we did it. The Pope left with my son, he blessed him, he touched him, and my son was healed. The boy is married and they call him the miracle. That's how they call him. And that case of that young man served for the canonization of Juan Pablo II. It was part of it. How incredible. These are things that are really a mystery. Miracles are a fascinating subject because there are people who experience miracles that medicine There is no way to explain. Let's go with the next topic, friend. Let's go with the next topic that is also going to be pretty good

Ay, that topic is very interesting. The topic of invisible burns Here I have the information too because, well, to great extent a woman practically Well, in broad terms, a woman who plays the wija. To start, what is your opinion of the wija, son? Because there are many opinions, I have never asked you this. What do you think of the wija? Is it good, bad, dangerous? Is it how they paint it? Look, I have known that many lives have changed.

I have never touched a Ouija. Never. Would you dare? Well, yes. Yes, yes, yes. I've never been in basement where they've been playing Ouija. I've been there. Okay. Yes, but I've never participated in this. But yes, I know it's something very risky and look at that I have realized that many young people

who are sometimes followers of us who say I want to be a Pacuario, I want to walk like this in the cemeteries and the truth and this and the guys leave and they always take a wig to invoke and everything. And they also start saying, take my energy. You don't know what you're saying. You don't know what you're saying. But I've found out that many young people have changed their lives. Of course. Many.

Look, there was a case in Saltillo that I was dealing with. But there was a time when the family of this young man, Fíjate que hubo un caso en Saltillo que yo estuve tratando Pero hubo un momento que la familia de este joven por parte de la mamá el papá sí quería que siguiéramos investigando un poco más Este joven era era muy estudioso muy inteligente muy muy inteligente ciertos libros de mucha ciencia y todo El papá me mando unos audios porque este joven bajo una aplicación en el celular que detectaba que cuando hubiera ruidos empezaba a grabar el celular I sent him some audio because this young man downloaded an app on his cell phone that when there was noise, he started recording his cell phone. He said, but look Santiago, I don't want to sleep in the dark anymore. I said, but what did he do?

He said, I don't know. I don't know what my son did. I told him, don't scold him, talk to him,, hey, I can help you, what's going on? And he sends me the audios, and at 3 in the morning someone is listening, like they're looking for something. And you can hear the young man breathing, who's asleep. And you can hear how things are thrown, how the steps are heard inside his room. And he says, you know what, Santiago, I already spoke with my son. He speaks to me the next day. And he says, you know what Santiago, I already talked to my son. He'll talk to me the next day.

And he says, play the Ouija. But he didn't just play, he took her home. I said, it's like he wants to know who really moves her, what happens and everything. I said, that's why he took her. He said, she has 15 days with the Ouija at home. Oh man, that's me. So the boy played and everything. Oh, man. So the kid was playing and everything. He wanted to investigate how that worked,

who was behind this kid. That's one of the big risks that I've always mentioned for a paranormal investigator, for people who are dedicated to creating content. The fact of always being careful not to cross the line. Because sometimes the doubt, the fact, the spirit of the researcher, you have to know, you can even have a logical explanation.

It's not that a person moves it. It's what sometimes leads several researchers to do more dangerous things. I have been in two sessions, nothing more. It's something that I do not dare to do personally alone or with people who do not know how to handle it. Because if there is a fact, I mean, I did it to investigate if something really happens and I confirmed it. And be careful, it does not happen with everyone, because many say, I play it and nothing happened to me.

It's not with everyone. It's like a person who says, I took this medicine and it did to me, it didn't to me. Obviously, it depends a lot on your energy, the type of person, people with whom this action is not going to happen. And above all, if there is a negative, to say, I don't believe in this. Because your own body, your brain is blocked and does not give way to the opening to what happens But this case that we are here is interesting, I will explain why This happens in Cadiz, this woman in Spain in 2005

She claims that after playing the Ouija with friends She began to have burns on his back and chest without having exposed himself to the fire. The doctors who began to treat this case did not give any explanation, they said this is impossible, this is a burn, he must have burned himself until at some point in the inspection room with the doctor, a burn began to form out of nowhere. At that moment, everything that this doctor wanted to do broke down and he said, this is something I can't do.

I can't do it, it's something I don't know what's going on. This woman also said that in her dreams there was a man who had completely white eyes that told him that he wanted to enter it, that is, to possess it. So it is one of the cases, I also invite people who like the subject of investigating, this happens in 2005 in Spain and it was one of the cases that became so viral because there were doctors who came to talk, that is, they interviewed them and mentioned that there was no explanation for these burners to be formed out of nowhere, so it did not reach as much as the Vatican or the church, but it was a case that caused a lot of

confusion among people, what do you think about this case? It's very interesting. I'm going to this. You made me remember another case. To conclude this young man, the father says, hey, they already realized that you are intervening, Santiago. The family and my wife say, no, no, that's not true. No, no, no, believe in that. He says, they took him to live at my mother-in-law's house, my son, my wife too.

But the boy sleeps and the grandmother is praying to him. She's praying all night. They don't believe it, but they're praying. So, believe it or not. Exactly. Well, I advised this man that spray holy water from San Juan de Pomuceno, a very powerful water from the church of San Juan de Pomuceno. San Juan de Pomuceno.

It was a Jesuit temple, so you know they have a lot of power. And holy water, don't think it's like the classic conchitas we see. No, no, it's a tin can. With a key. So you get there and fill your bottle with one or two liters. And I said, Holy water. Well, this young man did that.

The prayer of the Magnificent, who is very powerful. Salmo 91 too. Holy water. His job was at night. Because he was a personal transport supervisor. Hey, leaving the room to bless, Vice stars against a postman. He was left alive in a miracle.

He says, I think that being got angry with me, he felt. And I already lost track of him. And look, what you say is how that being wanted to possess this person, this woman. There is a case of some young people, Nueva Rosita, Coahuila. A not very large community, there in the central region of the state of Coahuila. Some girls start playing the game. They say, hey, but my mom won't want us to play here. Oh, but in front of them there's a house they're building.

It was in black work, the house was alone. They start playing there. Among them was a young woman who was an example of the Preparatory. She had a diploma of diploma, an excellent student, an excellent daughter, everything. Okay. They started playing wija, and she was in shock. She didn't move.

The friends started screaming. They said, Santiago, the sheets from the bathroom, the tables started flying everywhere. We started screaming. Santiago, las laminas que estaban ahí de los albañiles, las tablas empiezan a volar por todos lados. Empezamos a gritar, dice, mi hermano nos escucha y sale mi hermano, ¿qué está pasando? Dices que muévela, dice, mi hermano la cargó, la sacó de esa casa donde estábamos haciendo la acción de Ouija. Y resulta que ahora sí que con cachetada la hizo reaccionar a esta mujer, a esta slap, she was able to react to this woman, to this young woman. And she talked about that. She said that it was something that was being introduced into her body and that she became smaller. She became smaller because that was inside her body.

From that point on, Paco, began to get involved in illegal substances. Oh, my God. She didn't do homework anymore after becoming a copy student. She already jumped out of the preparatory, that is, she didn't finish it. The girl got pregnant and this person told me, Santiago, I found her in the center of Nueva Rosita. Y si ya no la reconocía. Después de ese encuentro. Después de esa noche. Qué fuerte, amigo.

¿Cómo cambia vidas? No, o sea. Es que, a ver, yo, yo siempre le he dicho a la gente porque a veces cuando llegamos a la prohibición de decir no hagas eso, pasa el efecto contrario, psicología la inversa. of saying, don't do that, it has the opposite effect, the inverse psychology, they tell you, don't think of a pink elephant, you're already thinking of a pink elephant. So there are people who I tell them, sometimes it's very extremist, they say, don't play, which is the recommendation, don't play the Ouija, but if they want to do it and they are

so desperate, do it with precaution, do it with someone who knows, do it with someone who can even help you. Try not to do it in a dangerous way because, like the case you tell, like the case of this woman in Spain, it can practically cost you your life. I interviewed once a man who they called the chilango, he said hello to the chilango, that he played, well his girlfriend who today is his wife at some point played the Ouija, look at the madness, they were boyfriends, they were boyfriends and they get pregnant until like four or five years later, then at that time when when they were dating,

this Chilean friend says that he was playing the Ouija, the Ouija said no, I mean, they didn't react to him, but with his girlfriend, yes. And his girlfriend quickly connected, many, many will remember that, because that's how the title was, it's been more than two years since that video was recorded, and the Ouija told him that they were going to ask him for the first child.

She told her. And she told the chilango, my guest at that time, hey, who says he's going to take my first child? Go fuck yourself, you know where, right? It happened, the game closed, he continued playing other times. Years go by, they get married, they get pregnant and lose their first child. And when this tragedy happens, they remember, hey, this was not what they had said, the Ouija. So I say, how are there things that seem mere curiosity? However, there are these, pareciera mera curiosidad sin embargo hay pues estos estas no sé muestras que te dan que son

como amenazas no cuántas veces has escuchado eso si yo te digo esto de de los riesgos muchas veces a lo mejor la gente que nos hay una vez yo hablé de lecturas prohibidas y todo y me decía un joven dice entonces no quieres que lea santiago le digo no le digo que puedes jugar claro es leer I remember once I talked about prohibited readings and everything and a young man said to me, So you don't want me to read Santiago? I said no, you can play, you can read, but what I do invite is people who know what the consequences can be. That's right. Yes, but also know the risks you can have, what can happen when playing the Wijo, when reading certain things. You are aware of what the dangers are. That's right.

You have that, it's your life, you can do whatever you want. But you do know a little bit about this. But yes, there are beings that manifest. I tell you, there were some young people, look, there were some young people who started watching horror movies. Now I'm going to tell you why they did all this. They liked it a lot, I imagine. Horror movies, then they went, then they played the Ouija in someone's house,

and then I said, no, you know hero, so this is the, I'm como cinco, who is this? This was no, I'm also what I am in the, in the, in the circle. Pero, you what the,

I'm a, contact are on a, I'm a circle, a travel, I'm a, no, I'm a circle, I'm a,

I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, Wow. a lonely street. Once he was getting home from playing the Ouija, he was getting home and saw a huge dog

sitting in the corner. He said, I've never seen this dog here. In that, he saw the dog walking and running. Imagine getting home at 3.30 in the morning, your parents are already asleep, and you come knocking on the door,

and your parents are all scared. What happened? What's going on? And your dad scolds you, and what are you doing at night on the street? Go to sleep, tomorrow we'll talk. The next day, his mom goes and asks, who was following you? And he says, a dog, a huge dog.

And she says, no, it wasn't a dog. You could hear the footsteps of a man that was following you. It wasn't a dog. It was a man, because in fact, you know that before the doors they put those crystals that were drops of water. Aha, that you can't tell, but you can see the shadow.

He said, it was a man. The one that was standing at the door. He said, I saw him. There are so many risks, friend. And do you know why these young people played the Ouija? Why? Because they had a rock band. And you say that all rockers are Satanists.

It was their idea, really. That was the belief of these young people. That's why they played the Ouija. Awesome. No, the fact of belonging to a certain group. Yes. In is that you really don't know. Even if I talked to Samudio, because it's like receiving a call from nowhere, and it can be an extortion, or it can be a family member. So it's a risk because you don't know

what you're talking about. Exactly. You don't know. So you better not do it, or if you really want to, look for someone to do it with. Let's go with the next one, please. Because I love these cases, friend. Give me holy water, he says.

I was already scared, says Mari Luna. Greetings Mari, let's send some greetings. Over here I want to send a greeting to, says, says, Mariela Gomez, the Crucifix killed the cat, says the saying. That's how the saying goes, right? Are there problems with the internet? Yes, I already mentioned it a while ago, I will mention it again.

Today we are transmitting by pure grace and work of Our Lord Jesus Christ because today at 3 in the morning there was an accident in some streets here in our studio and practically the entire colony, a large part of this area, was left without internet, so we are looking to transmit, despite any situation, so have patience family, have patience, at the moment that the general network is restored, we are going to connect from the start so that you have all the content in the best way. He also says here, general, vamos a conectarnos de volada para que ustedes tengan pues todo el contenido de la mejor forma. Dice también por aquí, edit reyes, a mí me tocó ver de lejos cómo jugaban la weha y se siente una pesadilla. Es cierto, fíjate que hay gente que no ha estado en este juego, pero ha visto

y ellos suelen sentir estas cosas a pesar de no estar ellos, pues en este juego que no me gusta in this game, but they have seen it and they usually feel these things despite not being in this game, which I don't like to say it so much because it's not, but they feel the presence that is within these rituals. He says, over here, I also want to send a greeting to, he says, Joanab Tram. Greetings from Colombia, handsome. Thank you very much. Do you want to send us some greetings, friend? Leave it here. I see if I can stop the comments.

There they are, they already stopped. Greetings to the people of Reynosa. Ah, greetings to Reynosa. Monterrey, Lo Urdes, thank you very much. Thank you, Lo Urdes. Pedroza, what a pleasure to have you here. A hug. Look, also to Colombia, greetings to Colombia.

Many beautiful people from Colombia are connected. Greetings also to Zumpango. Zumpango. Many people also from Reynosa, Tamaulipas. Medusa, how are you? Greeting you here, what a pleasure. Kikasoles says, pouring holy water with a fork. Greetings to both of you.

A big hug and a hug to Paco. Medusa, take care, thank you very much too. In Canada fuerte abrazo, Ipaco. Saludos, Medusa. Cuídate mucho. Muchas gracias también. En Canadá también. Ah, saludos hasta Canadá. Mira, saludos hasta Argentina y Brasil, París, Francia. Guatemala. Guatemala. Muchas gracias por estar con nosotros. Disculpen, sabemos que el en vivo no está como debería ser y como siempre está, pero ya saben que estamos trabajando. Disculpen los familiares. Paraguay also greetings

also for the savior many people from Salvador and Guatemala thank you very much look we have a person from Switzerland says hello from Switzerland Steven Vera 26 25 greetings brother thanks for being with us thanks thanks a big hug for the whole family of the extraordinary podcast for You want to see if I can? Playa del Carmen, from Ciudad Juarez, Tizayucuida, from Cancun too, from Tennessee. Greetings, thank you very much. Thank you very much, seriously. Now we are going with the next topic, you can send us some greetings. They say here, no monkey, no. Greetings, greetings.

Let's go with the next one, please. There it is. Let's see, the witchcraft marks in the mountains that issue that issue really Santiago I want to talk to you it's called witchcraft marks in the mountains of Oaxaca is a quite interesting issue interesting because there are people in some areas of the Sierra de Oaxaca, in Mi'hi areas even, people from nowhere appear certain symbols on their backs, on the floor of their feet or on their nape when they wake up. The shaman healers of these areas mention that they are seals placed during sleep by nauticals or witches.

Some marks disappear in a few hours, but others last weeks or months. And it is believed that the body is loan to do jobs. So the people who have these marks are like, they take their bodies, they are used to do some kind of work. So this is a very strange mystery. Because it's not a shaman, it's not a coroner, there are many who came to this conclusion that these bodies are sealed, they are marked by these entities.

What do you think? This is crazy. Tell you what, I once heard about a baby. Ok, imagine, no more. A baby, the mother assured, it was a very white child, very white, and he had two fingers marked here, which lasted months, they lasted months. The boy showed up when he was about 15 days old. Here in the part. Yes, he had the marks of two fingers.

Where is his third eye and notice that the mother said because We told her it was a life there near the house This happened many years ago and we told her what happened to the child says says no one to believe But you know that when we talked about baptism, about witches, and she claimed that while she was asleep, she saw someone pulling out her baby, pulling it out of the bed she was lying on. And she said, and from there, those marks passed on to her.

So, it was possibly the fingers of that witch that was taking the baby out. Imagine, right? But those brands lasted many months for the baby. That's very scary, man. It's very scary. But the first time I hear this, it's like you're marked, like you're already chosen. Exactly. Because there have been people, especially women, who have, they dawn with bruises on their legs, on their wrists, they dawn with bruises. That's right.

But most of these women coincide Paco, who receive attacks like these incubate demons from sexual relations. Many of them agree with that. Because when I was talking, I woke up with bruises on my legs, as if someone was holding me from the wrists. I said, sit down as if someone had relationships. He said yes.

That kind of attacks are... I've spoken with women who have had these types of attacks by these entities. And they tell me, I mean, many think that they are dreams like wet dreams. I mean, it really feels like an ultra. Exactly. I mean, it's a nightmare, it's horrible. And this kind of marks, look, it's interesting because, I mean, the body that is marked

is because it's used for a job. It's the conclusion of these shamans, of these healers too, that the body is occupied. But my doubt then, I mean, because there's no more information, is how they occupy this body. I information, how do they occupy this body? I mean, how can they occupy it? Because imagination is great, and I can imagine a thousand things

about how they can occupy this body. But the fact that there are people... I didn't know that even children, I thought they were more like adults, but it has all the logic of the world, when witches also mark, it's a pretty strong theme, my friend. That many times the witches are the ones who distinguish this, the shamans distinguish this type of...

Of marks, right? Of marks that say, oh, it's already marked. It's already sealed. It's already sealed, but why? That's right. This is... Look, I'm remembering a case, Paco. Yes. Of a person who...

They started to go out... Look, everything starts... Mr. Trailer. He invites his wife and says, hey, let's go on a trip nearby, let's go to Mexico City, we'll come back tomorrow. Well, go ahead. He went with his husband.

Yes. He says, Santiago, we arrived in Mateo Ala. There we parked in a restaurant. A young man approached him and asked for help from my husband. Yes. The man doesn't listen to her and says, I'll be right back, woman. I won't be long. Let me help this family. And he leaves with this young man. Hey, the night came and the man didn't come. And the man didn't come, he didn't come. He says, and it was early in the morning in Santiago. The good thing is that the trailer left him open.

Of course. And there was this lady, I say, my husband was arriving in the early morning. But it was someone else. It wasn't my husband. It wasn't my husband. He was talking to me about things. We were on the train.

Hey, what did this family have? Did you help them? Did you not help them? And he said, what family? The one you went to help. Oh, yes. So it wasn't him. He came to his house. He said, what family? The one you went to help. Oh, yes. So it wasn't him. He came to his house.

He came to the bathroom. He said, he spoke to me about things. He spoke to him with words that he had never said. Oh, okay. And he said, this is not my husband. He says, he comes out of the bathroom.'s possible Dice que sale del baños. Este tupaco sale del baño este hombre y al estarse secando ve unas manos en su espalda y que te pasó tres rasguños o que dijo no no déjame

Déjame no traigo nada dijo trae unas manos en la espalda y entonces dice y yo le hablé de in the espalda. Y entonces dice, yo le hablé de que íbamos a tener la levantada del Niño Dios. Me dijo, no, no vamos a hacer nada de eso.

Dice, ah caray. Dice, una, totalmente era otra persona. Dijo, y para, así, dice, para sorpresa Santiago, yo siento como que alguien nos está observando de la ventana, de la calle, I feel like someone is watching us from the street window. And it was the young man who went to ask my husband for help. Oh, man. I mean, he really said, Santiago, I'm going to investigate a little more what's going on with my husband.

Then I'll contact you. I'm still waiting for that call. But I do remember that she said she had some marks on her back. Yes. Look, I'm remembering something. Because there's a case that we talked about three years ago. About a person, maybe it's a couple. But it's interesting because, Oh, my God. Almost three years of a person, maybe a couple,

but it's interesting because he he came to me and said Paco, I've been with a woman for two days that's not my wife. I said, man, that sounded like something else, like I was interpreting something else.

But I started reading the mail and this person told me That sounded like something else. Like... I was interpreting it differently. But I started reading the email, and this person told me something really strange happened. And I was scared. Because she said her wife went to work. I mean, they were both working, they didn't have children yet. Ah, yes. She says she came back from work,

and you, as a husband, as a wife, you realize how your partner is, right? And he says, she at the beginning, I asked her the same questions as from the past, from things that we went through together and I didn't remember them. I said, well, that's fine. But when they start talking to you in another way, that they don't usually talk to you, you say, why do you say that? Or you never saw, not even when we were dating, we talked like that, or you talked to me like that. But I told her that in the early morning, when you see that there are very strange situations, that you wake up out of nowhere, there is no noise, there is nothing, you just wake up.

She says, I woke up and she was looking at me. Five in the morning, four in the morning, I was awake, looking at me. 5 in the morning, 4 in the morning. She was looking at me. And she said, that started to bother me. Even to scare me. Because you don't talk like my wife. You don't remember what you should remember. And you look at me when I sleep. And you say, I don't know what it is.

So, I remember that we landed on a topic of Doppenkanger. But that person didn't know what it is. So, I remember that we landed on a topic of Doppelganger, but that person didn't write to me again. I just remembered that. I don't know if at some point everything returned to normal. I don't know, but what do you think about that? Listen, I met a case, Paco, where a girl told me. Yes.

The girl is pregnant, she was like in her last month. And she told me that she lived with her partner. Yes. And suddenly, when she was getting pregnant, she started noticing certain strange things in her partner's behavior. Her partner had already been married, he was divorced, he had two daughters, one of eight years old and the other of five years old.

And the girls would come on the weekend, and since she was very young too, she said, the girls got along very well with my son. And I enjoyed them, the daughters of my partner, we did things, we played, and also the girls really liked to come because afterwards they didn't want to go with their mom. partner's daughters. I mean, we did things, we played, and also, the girls really liked coming, because later they didn't want to go with their mom. That's right.

Well, she also started, as the pregnancy grew, the months of pregnancy, she talked to her husband, how was work, normal, right? To sleep, to sleep. Suddenly, she felt the gaze. And she woke up, and her husband was like this.

He says, what happened? What's wrong? You say, I want to talk to you. He says, we already talked. He says, but not with me. What? That's what I was saying. He says, you haven't talked to me. And then he says, you're crazy. What? Leave them, don't mess with the baby. Yes. It's like fighting with someone, defending us.

I was going to be a girl they were going to have, because they already had the results and everything. Because she was in the last few months. So she said, no, don't mess with them, take me with you. And she woke him up. What's wrong? I don't want anything. And she repeated that again.

He said he wanted to talk to you. And the girl belongs to me. He said, yes, she's your daughter. So you start to draw many conclusions. You're like a police investigator. I tell him, you know what, friend? It sounds like you's definitely another person who is in the body of your partner. And he is, it's an internal struggle for what he

dreamed of, what he said in the morning. I said, maybe I made a pact. And the girl said, yes, Santiago, I made a pact. I said, and what did he say in exchange for having a perfect body? He said, and he has a perfect body, my partner. He told me that he had made a pact. I didn't believe him. Well, suddenly the girls were gone on the weekend. The following weekend the girls didn't come back. And he stops them at a meeting and he says to the girls, the girls greet him with a lot of affection, the girl and everything, and they ask him about the baby and everything, and he says,

hey, why don't you go home? I said, we are afraid. He says the oldest one. And the youngest one says yes, he says, fear, we're scared. I said, the oldest one. And the youngest one said, yes. He said, we're scared. But what are you scared of, says my dad. He said, but I saw that my partner has never yelled at them, never hit them, nothing. He said, and what are you scared of?

He said, when you fall asleep, we see that my dad walks like this on four legs through the hall of life. Oh, my God. When you fall asleep, we see my dad walking on his four feet through the hallway of life. Oh my God. That's why the girls didn't want to go. Man, what a trauma. And the girl went to her parents' house and received calls from her mother-in-law's phone.

And she answered. And it was him. And then she answered, and it was him. And then she said, you will never get rid of me, and that girl belongs to me. Imagine in the early morning, listening to that guy's voice, which was already a different voice,

she said, that girl belongs to me. The girl was about to be born, the girl was already programmed, and, and she was already programmed. And the next day she talked to her mother-in-law and she said, No, he didn't take my cell phone. She said, I don't have any phone calls here, honey. No, come on, man. Seriously.

How scary is it that your partner has these demonic possession lapses? Exactly. I'm serious. We'll be back soon, super super soon. Don't leave because we have more questions and questions that were sent to Santiago. They are great. We'll be back in a moment. Go production, we'll be back in a moment. We're back, family. How are you? We're back after this short break. It says around here... Mari Luna says probably yes. I don't know if you just out of context, but they gave you a hug, Mari.

We are back, friend, do you mind if you send us some greetings? Thank you very much from Uruguay, Leticia, thank you very much. for a car. Veracruz! We are very close to Veracruz. Adriana, the witch Martina too. Greetings! She is also here, I want to send greetings to Leon Guanajuato to Sergion Bajomey. Greetings, brother! Also greetings to Tepic and greetings to Nicaragua.

He says Paco Sos el Guan. Thank you very much Romina, thank you very much. I send you a big hug to Argentina. Brother, you can send me a big hug. Hey, in Portugal too, thank you very much, people of Venezuela, greetings. From Brazil, look too. Reiner, thank you.

Javier says here, Guillermo de León too. Viriceleste, a hug. Thank you very much. Celeste un abrazo gracias ya venza por ahí donato 21 24 dice a ver a este lo agarrada aquí para por ser un poquito largo a ver a ver a ver ya lo perdí ya lo perdí no donato pero es también jala poder a cruz cristina gracias estado de méxico en toluca desde new jersey saludos mira amigo por aquí está dice donato y harin quien conté tu comentario dice saludos pues mandar un I'm Luis Cuento, Luca, from New Jersey. Greetings. Look, my friend, here it says Donato Jarring, I'm happy with your comment. He says, greetings. Can you send a greeting to Mariana,

who is my mom, and we look at you from Argentina. Of course, my good Donato, I want to send a hug to your mom. Thank you also for being part of this great family. A hug, greetings and blessings. And to Palapa, also to the New Guascalientes. Oh, greetings. blessings. In Isstapalapa, also in Oaxacalientes. Oh, greetings. In Panama too. Greetings. Look, it says, Paquito, we invite you to Canada. Let's see, I'm going to read that comment again.

It says, it says, it says, it says. Oh, there are so many. Let's see, let's see, let's see. I only managed to read, we invite you to Canada, but there are so many comments. No, it can't be, I already lost it, I already lost it, I already lost it, I already lost it, I already lost it. Greetings in Chicago too, Lima, Peru, look. Greetings to Lima, Peru, but the person who said we invite them to Canada,

this, ah, it's that, as we are in another studio, I can't read until now, so it looks... What's your name? Calientes, Nicaragua, Guadalajara. Of course, I accept the invitation. Gabriela, thank you very much. They are already telling me here in production. I was... Carolina del Norte, thank you too. In Tijuana. Greetings to this Carolina. They areijuana, Victoria se da miedo, dice, saludos.

Angie Ruiz, muchas gracias también. También gracias por esta donación, muchas gracias. Amigo. Ahí nos toca uno y uno, ¿va? Ah, sí, sí. Un dolarcito, un dolarcito. Amigo, hay unas preguntas que te enviaron. Ah, caray.

Ah, bien. Eso sí me da miedo. Unas preguntas. Producción, vamos con la primera, porque Santiago dice, yo me la sé. go with the first one, because Santiago says, I know it. Can you read the question, production? Because my opiates don't give me... Ok, what has impacted you the most, 16 years doing all this, there are many things, there have been many situations. Yes.

I always try to find an explanation, a logical explanation why they are happening, sometimes the relationship with what happens. Already hesitating about certain things. And I thought, oh, this happened for a reason. I felt that for a reason. But I think that one of my strongest experiences was when I was a child. I was in elementary school.

And one day someone asked me the question why I liked all of this. I didn't watch horror movies at all. Not at all. I remember that one why I liked all this. I didn't watch horror movies before. I remember one time I watched a movie that was a Dracula premiere. I dreamt of the movie. You had nightmares. Well, in the house I lived in,

the yard in my house was an abandoned clinic. I had access to that clinic. It was my yard. I played alone. It was a unique experience. I spent time playing in that place. As if I was seeing it right now. I remember there were two doors. Like a kind of cellar.

They opened. That place, I never there tables that were made of a green tileset? And I remember that there were tables that were made of a green tileset. And I remember that there were tables that were made of a green tileset. And I remember that there were tables that were made of a green tileset. And I remember that there were tables that were made of a green tileset. And I remember that there were remember there were kind of tables. I said, why are there tables that were made of a green, pine tile?

But I had the feeling that someone was inside. I was in primary school and I had the feeling that someone was waiting for me inside. And I said, it seems like I'm living it. It was like a trauma. I closed the doors and ran out. I ran out and said, Mom, someone got into the clinic. I said, where do they get in? The only way out is this.

I said, I don't know. I feel it. Then, when I grew up, I realized that the room I was afraid of was the morgue, el hospital. Y aparte, después, ya haciendo varias investigaciones a clínica, resulta que al doctor lo habían desterrado de la ciudad, porque se le morían muchos, muchos pacientes y muchos de ellos eran bebés recién nacidos y lo habían, lo habían desterrado. and many of them were newborn babies and they had been buried.

No way. But I tell you, it was one of the... But there have been many, there have been many experiences, in the cabin many times playing the theme, things have fallen on me, a Christ that always... I have a Bible and a Christ. They say that when something bad happens, these sacred things act.

A rosary breaks, the crucifix breaks, this is when they act to protect you. Christ was broken and he was a metal Christ that I had years with him. I have a file there where I keep all my things and after that happened in the cabin, because I talked a lot in a call that I received and he mentioned a lot the name of Satan. I was in the air saying, why Satan, why Satan? And boom, a decorative painting fell that is from a Ouija that a friend of Leon Guanajuato, Dali, who is a witch, and they threw the witch out. It was live, right? Yes, it was live, and when I went to guard the Christ, a broken arm and a broken torso.

It's made of metal. And people were receiving energy for protection. metal. Are the marks on your body signs of past lives or is it your destiny? Many times, well, I just touched on a topic about past lives. They say that many times these marks are... Of birth. Of birth. Sometimes in a capricious way, right? This type of lunars.

And that sometimes go from generation to generation, that says, hey, wait for me, well, my grandfather also had that lunar like that, and this, and it can also be a consequence of past lives. This has impacted me, I have known two cases of people that I know who were subjected to a regression and it is curious because one of them has a moon in the front and another has a moon in the part of his shoulder and these two people when they are subjected to a regression they tell me and tell a team of people that we also this, that when they are subjected to this regression, one of them dreamed that in one of their lives

he died of a shot of grace. Horale. And the other also died in an accident. And the last thing that I remember in that almost vision is having hit a vehicle and one of the metal irons here I had crossed it then I say to me it caught my attention a lot that because this says hey how is it possible that

You have a birthmark a very peculiar lunar and in your regression because It turns out that it is the last thing you saw or the reason why they sent you to the other world. Sometimes regression happens, sometimes it can be dangerous, right Paco? Because you can say, hey, who was in my past life? Imagine, hey, let's go to... I want Santiago if you want to put a regression for hypnosis. Ok. And it turns out that in your past life you were a serial killer. Imagine.

I mean, you come back and you say, hey, you were... Okay. Imagine. Yes. that have certain marks on their legs are the people who say that they have been abducted. That's right. That's right. There are certain marks. Let's go with the next production, please. I think it's a little big in the image. There I can see. People who suffer from a mental illness can see the real reality? I think this is directed to when they say, and we say it with great respect, that people, for example, who have a schizophrenia issue or things like that, can really see what normal people can't.

Do you think this is real? I think so Paco. I think so. We talked before, there is no center. Talking once with Fray Benign, an Italian exorcist, in Palermo, Italy, they have a center to discern

if it is really a psychological disease or if it is really something spiritual. They have to attack this and I think that if there are many cases where in fact there have been situations Paco where people see or hear also things that you say, hey, how... And they have led them to live apart. Of course.

Notice that in a case that I have talked about many times, Don Juan, he lived alone because he divorced after 40 years. He bought a house and in that house there was a certain vibe, you know, there are those types of energies, bad vibes. That's right. And he got divorced after 40 years, already with big daughters, the daughters would say,

dad, you have 40 years of marriage, how are you going to get divorced? Well, the man got divorced, and he, look, something very strange, the man had no vice, the man was a personal transport driver. You know that those people rest sometimes very little, they sleep very little too. And that weekend, they gave Don Juan a special rest.

He went and bought a roasted chicken to eat. He said he saw the box at night and he was very pleased. box. his daughters screaming to him, why did you do that? The man was scared. What did I do? What did I do? How did you hang yourself? At what time? Fortunately, one of his daughters came and hanged him. But the man had survived.

How strong he was. But he only heard that voice. The influence, the one we were talking about. Exactly. The case of a young man, he says, Santiago, my aunt saw things. She said, this house is cursed. They left at night, they said,

Oh, I believed my aunt, they said she was traumatized. And nobody believed her. He says, I did, because I spoke very coherent things. When you were getting ready to pay attention, you said, Oh, God, he's right and he ended up also surviving the person How strong, friend there are situations in itself

that somehow the human being doesn't remember and we always talked about it the issue of possession of influence you don't know, you're not aware you forget it's like that fragment of your memory was erased. And you say, how is it possible that I say that it is not justification?

Because there are people who take care of that. But well, let's go with the next question. It says, Don Santiago, have you ever caught something on the road? Or have you witnessed something? Greetings. Yes. Yes? Yes, images that are recorded to you. Once passing there on the San Luis Potosí road, the 57, very transit of that road, the road that goes to Mexico, right? I had to see the case precisely of a young man. There were no authorities there or anything. There were just certain people there, curious.

Imagine, you're still passing by, still in daylight, and see a young man, dead, in a little mosque, on the edge of the road. And I can't forget that image. I can't forget it, but there are situations where you're on the road and you say, oh, wow, I saw a person. You say, but there's nothing here. In the middle of nowhere, where did this person come from?

But many times you can say, maybe it's an immigrant, right? But you see, an old lady. I've been touched. You see, an old lady with a But yes, I have been touched. And I have had many experiences with trailer friends. The trailers. No, you know, they are the ones who spend the most time on the road. Sure, hours and hours. I said, the trailer friends are not afraid of the darkness, but what is hidden in the darkness.

Exactly. Right? But yes, I have been touched to see and I have received reports. Look, there is a call, Paco. There is a call from a person who... They came from Monterrey, and before they arrived in Saltillo, a place called Ojo Caliente, where there are pools and all that,

asking for help from a crane. He was going to the wedding with his two daughters. And the husband says, Santiago, something went through us. Something white. I ran into it. In fact, they feel when they pass by. But the strange thing is that there is nothing. There is nothing, I checked. There is no red liquid in the truck.

There is absolutely nothing. He says, we do not know what happened. There's no red liquid in the truck, there's absolutely nothing. He says, we don't know what happened. So I remember, Sofia, it's one of the calls, let's take the audio, it's one of the most terrifying calls I've ever received. That, in that, when I tell her, Sofia is going to help, and she tells her husband,

and the husband says, Enough. They start screaming, the girls and Sofia, in a way that even her voice goes. She loses her voice, her scream, and the call is cut off. How scary.

The call is cut off. I never would have received another call like that. They would have said, hey Santiago, I'm Sofia, the one who spoke that night. But you can hear that call quite terrifying. That scream. What happened? I don't know. I think we agree that the roads are also one of the places where every situation happens. That somehow, I was talking about this with other investigators,

many accidents and these souls who do not find rest, eternal peace, are repeating the moment of their death. For example, the case that you said that it seemed that they passed the car on top, probably that's how it was like, like he lost his life and is repeating and more drivers are happening this same, let's say, this same case of going, seeing, feeling, but there is nothing and it is repeating like a circle. Some comment that putting the crosses on the road is like anchoring this spirit. That's right, I've heard that too.

To leave it there. Another situation is who lights those candles on those crosses? If there's no way to stop there. There is. Look, that generates a lot of doubt in me because there are crosses on main streets, obviously. But I've seen crosses.

I personally, people have seen crosses with candles lit in the middle of a hill where there's nothing. And you say, my God, who came here to learn? Exactly. That's a great mystery too. Yes, and sometimes, as you said, the ghost always repeats a pattern. That's right. It always happens that from the living room to the kitchen, and you'll always see it like that.

That's right. So here on the roads, many times, people who don't know, who are no longer in this world. They haven't understood that part, right? Exactly. And because sometimes they were traveling, they were on a slope, these people were sleeping, and they on a slope, they were sleeping, these people. And they really don't understand what happened.

That's right. How strong, my friend. What's going on? And I tell you, there's a race in the north, check it out, it's a song called La Muerta. Okay. Yes, from a trailer, a trucker, he grabs a woman and says, no, I live in a certain place, and he leaves her home and he lends her a jacket. And the next day, two or three days later, he said, no, the lady was already used to that.

They go to the cemetery, the tomb of the girl, and she wears the jacket. And it's a race that's called the dead. In fact, you can check it out. OK, friend. It's a song. Look at how these facts inspire people to write these stories. Let's go with the next and last question, please.

Production. Yes, there it is. OK, that's the last one, right? Okay. Okay. a poquito pero en su casa que interesante no? Fíjate que en mi casa que es su casa de todos ustedes este no me han pasado muchas cosas o sea si han pasado cosas extrañas con un duende, con un duende que adquirí amanecí sin un día sin un calcetón y del calcetón del pie izquierdo y al día siguiente dije caray porque se ve que a los duendes les gustan robarse los calcetones, pero yo pensé And the left foot sock and the next day I said, damn, because I know that the vendors like to steal socks. Yes.

But I thought they were like that, they were stolen from the drawer, not from the socks. No, they took it away. No, they took it away. And the next day they took away the other one, the other foot. Damn. Yes, there are certain things there that, because of everything you do, right? Yes. I used to live, we had another house.

But I always try to find a logical explanation where there were situations in that house that I arrived at dawn, at 3, 3.30 in the morning more or less. And sometimes there were two grunts that were like little crows. Yes. Like that, at the entrance of the verandah of my house. A stop, like they were waiting for me, but a black cat. There he was waiting for me. And, you know, many times you have the feeling that something is not right.

I imagine that happens to you you to visit so many places, you perceive that guy and say, hey, here it is, it's heavy. Sometimes it happens to me, but when it is very evident, I say, yes, here it is heavy. There was a time when I arrived home in the early morning and I said, it's very strange. And that happened on a Tuesday. And on the weekend, my neighbor called me and said, hey, you left the lights on in your car, and outside your house there are a lot of cops. And I looked around, and indeed there were like 20 cops there.

I said, what happened? I said, everything was because of the lights. I went downstairs and I saw that they were bringing a married woman. And they said, no. I said, what happened? They were from the forensic research agency and all that. And they said, what happened was that this person evicted his neighbor.

And I, as I always worked with them, I didn't live with the neighbors. He says, the neighbor who lived behind his house, this person evicted them here at the door of his house. Oh, my God. He said yes, and now he takes us to where the body is. And the body was still there. I mean, it was still in a barren area in front of us.

The body was about 150 meters away from this neighbor. Oh, that's strong. But I said, for a reason, these days I felt something strange. But I didn't realize it. I said, what time is it? But your spirit and everything, I felt your strange energy.

With the neighbor, it was just like that from time to time, they would take him on a motorcycle. And good afternoon With the neighbor, it was just once in a while that he would ride a motorcycle. And good afternoon, good morning, it was everything. But he never said, the officer said, no, he said, we have to rebuild this, it comes to us to decide where the body is. But here at the door of his house, he said. How strong, friend. That is the last question.

The truth is that, what good questions. If someone would like to send us their question for the next guests, you know, family, follow us on Instagram, there as podcasts, if it's normal. And if you're out there, say, my sister, if you're going there, follow me and Mr. Santiago Segovia. How can I find you, friend? Stories about Santiago Segovia on all platforms. Perfect, since you're out there. Let's go with you find him, my friend? The stories of Santiago Segovia in all platforms. Perfect.

And now that you're walking around, let's go with the other theme. Let's go because we still have some little themes left. Let's go, let's go with the other one. Let's see. There it is. Oh, that theme is very interesting. You may have even heard it. The boy from Tlaxcala. Uy, ese tema está bien interesante, incluso puede ser que ya lo hayas escuchado. El niño de Tlaxcala.

A ver, contexto de este sitio es un tema que a muchas personas les gusta porque es el tema de amigos imaginarios. Este tema es del año 2016, se hizo muy popular on social media. The child of Tlaxcala is an eight-year-old boy who said he had an imaginary friend who played with him at night. His parents would put him to sleep, they would also sleep, and it was about 12, 1 in the morning, and they heard that his son was awake, they heard him running, they heard him running in the hallway, laughing, and the parents got up and said, hey, what happened? Are you playing? And it turns out that the boy says, I'm playing with my imaginary friend.

But the strange thing about this is that his mom found scratches on her back, arms, whenever the child woke up. His mom was going, obviously she was going to school, and she noticed that in the mornings, every morning at night the child bathes, or in the morning he was bathing, she realizes that the child, when he wakes up, had these scratches. The psychologists came to tell said that these were self-harm. But, strangely, his mom... We couldn't find these videos, we were going to show them. But his mom started recording them at night.

Because she said, my son can't do these spiders. So she put a security camera recording and his mother took all this time to be able to record and discover that he did not do these injuries. A neighbor who lived close by said that the land where they lived was an old indigenous cemetery and that's where those an antiguo cementerio indigena. Y por ahí, pues salieron esas conclusiones de que el amiguito pues no era tan amiguito porque lastimaba a aquel niño. ¿Qué opinas de eso, amigo? No, no, eso hablar de amigos imaginarios, Paco, es un tema de horas.

O sea, tantos casos. Yo he investigado casos allá de amigos imaginarios, I mean, so many cases. I've researched cases there, this, of imaginary friends, in many ways, of how they meet, how... Look, there was, for example, the case of Nicole,

a girl who played with, with a girl, Janice, her name was Janice, and she drew, because they had her princess party, Nicole, at that time she was Nicole's only daughter, Janice. Janice's mom was already there. Go play with Janice. When they throw her a birthday party,

they dress her up as a princess. She draws herself and draws Janice. Janice also went to the party. They switch houses. Of course, mom says, Nicole, you're missing a doll. No, I left Janice. Poor thing, who was she going to play with? Yes. the mama dice, oye Nicole este te falta tal muñeca y te, no se las deje a Janis porque

pues pobrecita con quien iba a jugar. Sí, pero bueno este es así como un caso muy noble verdad. Sí claro. Pero hay situaciones, fíjate, cosas increíbles. Me cuento una señora que se cambian a una casa y el niño estaba en kinder y en las madrugadas el niño jugaba a house and the boy was in kindergarten and in the early hours the boy played dark the boy saw him and said what are you doing to sleep? he said I'm playing with my little friend. what little friend? to sleep he says Santiago there were times that Saltillo very cold in winter I went to his room, I brought him to sleep, I brought him to my room and the Claro. We can say that imagination well many times psychologists say The imaginary child is useful because he is the imaginary friend who says bad things

Bad words, the one who behaves badly Well, this lady sought help With a woman who knew this and she says she would like a little ritual when the child was not there And he says that he did a little ritual when the child was not there. The child had a transport, he was in the kinder. They take him to the kinder. The transport leaves and the lady says, now is when? And he starts doing that ritual to move that entity away. The child spoke that his friend had a cord on his neck Wow. He said, they didn't scare her. He said, no, why? She didn't explain anything about what was happening to her child.

He said, it's just that a tragedy happened there a few years ago. The stepfather made the child live in a corner. That's why this child looked at him with a cord and his whole face black. Of course. Well, the child was in the kindergarten. The lady does this ritual to make a display of that house. to He came down screaming and crying. I said, someone hit him, a friend hit him. What happened? Why did you run him?

Why did you run him? Who? He said, my friend, you ran him. And, well, how do you know? He said, he ran and told the kinder that you had run him from this house. Children, without knowing the ritual. Exactly. I mean, how is that? has They sent me this kid's drawing. You see the classic. Draw your family. No, this is my dad, my mom, my little sister and me.

But he drew a huge being. He said, who is he? He said, he lives in the house too. Oh, man, Samuel, how do you think? I mean, but the kid just saw that pig. He says, he also lives in the house. And he draws it and paints it yellow and all. But I tell you, there are many cases, Paco,

of these imaginary friends that don't really exist. Many times they say they're demons. Right now we were talking about brands. The case of a person who had a child who says, Santiago, they were close to the railways. There was a tunnel near the railway that is still used in the matter of transport in cars. They are already cargo trains, right? Well, he says,

to begin with, Santiago, my son couldn't go down the stairs to get out of my house. To begin with. He says, that's what they start looking for. The kids don't make any noise. Where is he? What is he doing? We couldn't find him. He says, I see him walking in the middle of the street. And someone is grabbing him.

Someone is grabbing him as if he was holding his hand like this. And we didn't see anyone. I was screaming, I wasn't turning, I wasn't listening until I went for him. He said, I'm going to play with my little friend. I'm going to play with my little friend. It's been like two years and he was still watching that little friend. He came to draw that little friend. He was missing a foot, a foot to that little friend.

He was carrying a knife and a cross mark on his forehead. He was the one he wanted to take with him. God... I tell you, at that age a child is not going to lie to you. He's going to invent a person. Not invent a story of that caliber. And I have the drawings. How interesting it would be to see them, friend. How weird, how scary.

I can only tell people, please pay attention. I always say it to everything that their children say. Don't tell them, I don't believe you, because it's what it is. There are situations where I've said, you change your house and you don't know who lived there. You don't know why they rented it to you so cheaply. I've always said, look for information with the neighbors,

they're the best informants. The best. Yes, hey, what was going on here? And I tell you, there was a girl, this case was very recent, informant. No, no, no. No, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. my daughter, who I saw in the room, in the door of the room, she was scared, she was in the corner, between, there on the wall,

the bed was stuck to the wall, and she felt the woman's breathing. Imagine the torture of this girl, that they didn't believe. The girl was crying in the early morning, Mom, a lady is coming, go to sleep, this, that happens to you. Vete a dormir, este. Eso te pasa por haber... Ya ves que antes era... Nosotros nos decían,

eso te pasa por ver tanta televisión. Ah, si era el... Era lo que decían las mamás. Sí, sí, sí, sí. Y ahora no. Síguele ahí en el celular o síguele en la tablet. Por eso te pasan ese tipo de cosas. No le creían. Sí. Dice Santiago, después de cuatro meses...

Y le dije a la señora, ¿cómo que después de, I said to her, what do you mean after four months? She said, she arrived. She's not ashamed to say that, right? How do you think? She says, that night my daughter arrived. I said, well, go to bed with your dad. Go to bed, she said. I went to the room, Santiago, to sleep.

I went to sleep. She said, in that, I felt like something was scratching my cheek. I opened my eyes and it was the woman's hair. Imagine the lady lying down and the woman sitting on top of her. And the hair was the one that woke her up. The lady gets up immediately and the woman says,

I want you to leave my house. The lady gets up immediately and the woman says, I want you to leave my house. How nice that happened to him, because that's the only way he listened to his daughter. But she wouldn't have lasted four months, poor creature. I told her because we were talking and I said, how can you believe your your creature after four months? It's very important, as you say, to listen to them, to observe them, to the young people.

Observe them and say, hey, this guy is not eating like before. I see it as a bit strange. We have to observe our children. Always know them and see how they behave. How incredible, my friend. Let's go with the next one, because these are the last two. Because this gets good. Let's see. That one too, let's see.

Here I have my notes because the case is pretty good too. Let's see, one second please. because the case is pretty good too. This... Let's see, one second please. One second. Okay. The symbol on the homoplane. Chihuahua 2011. I want to talk to you a little bit about this topic and I want to know your opinion, my friend.

Let's see. Look, this is a woman who woke up with a strange symbol, like a triangle with lines on her back. She appeared after her mother cleaned her with an egg and this one burst on its own. You know there are cleanings where they break the egg, in fact there are people who say that you don't have to break it, you have to undo it, throw it far away, others who, if you know how to interpret it, you throw it in a glass of water, you read it, and sometimes nails come out, hairs come out, which also happens a lot, if the egg was already had by the healer, the shaman, the witch, then they are eggs, well, already tricked, right? I mean, it's already from a charlatan, but this case, the egg breaks in the middle of a clean one.

And the symbol was interpreted by a healer as an incomplete possession mark. So this case went viral because some social media have been leaked, and these photos were in some social media, but they were deleted. I got to know about that case many years ago, but when we wanted to look for them, it appears, I'm going to say it, especially on Facebook, Facebook. I had never heard the subject of an incomplete possession. What do you think about that? I had never heard that either. It's the first time. I knew that there are phases in possession that start from oppression, but the infestation, which is when they come into your life,

the oppression, when they are close, when there are influences, when you are changing your character, when you isolate yourself, when you are already influenced, when you are already changing your character, when you become isolated, when you start acting in a strange way, and when the possession is completed. But I had never heard that they would mark your body unless, let's see, this is only once a person told me that the influence that is close to you is not a low-ranking demon. We are talking about a prince, and this is very rare. For me, it is very rare to encounter this case, but it is very rare because they are the ones who leave their mark, Como de alguna forma su huella dejan su sello algún príncipe como cual bueno conocemos algunos

nombres de los demonios asmodeo Belial que digo si sería muy difícil que esto así ocurra pero ellos son los que si logran de alguna manera sellar a los cuerpos si que opinas de son hijo que son demonios que comandan legiones verdad una cies verdad a way to seal the bodies. What do you think about that, my friend? That they are demons that command legions, right? That's right. Asteroids, right. That command legions, that many times you say, hey, how is that demon going to fix itself in you? Why did he fix himself in you?

That's the question of the skeptics. Why would a high hierarchy demon fix himself in a normal person? I mean, a common life life like all of us, but because that, I mean, what would be the committed or what would be his plan to jump from one body to another until he probably reaches a person as the stories tell us that infiltrate in large institutions like the Vatican and they destroy it inside.

I've never heard of this case. It's a very interesting case. I leave the data there, for example, the year, where it was, so that people can look for it and also investigate? Because I really like that people investigate that they do not stay with what I tell them because I am also a human being I can also be wrong then I like to give people the data with that they can investigate and with that they can draw their own conclusions. Exactly, look at you Paco talking about these symbols of these seals that many times we Paco, speaking of these symbols, these stamps, that we often put on ourselves.

We tattoo them. Tattoos. Yes, yes. Tattoos. I now comment that many times horror movies were very bloody. They were like... There was a lot of blood in the movies. And now, when this series of Annabelle came out,

I've seen that several young people didn't like it, they wanted to see that kind of action. But really, those who were involved in this, there's a background, right? For example, in one of the movies, where the lady who had the library, who sacrifices herself, says, because that being comes for the soul of your daughter. He comes to collect a bill, it doesn't matter which one it is, he comes to what they promised him.

That's right. Right? And this woman from the library is self-destructing because she knew. So I say, the movies already had a lot of and I go to this because in an expo, I really like the Winchester series, the supernatural one. You see they put demon traps and all that. Well, a girl, so now they are using things that are real. Yes, in fact, in series and movies they show us real things. Exactly, real rituals because they don't want to lend themselves to the fact that

hey, that doesn't exist, where did they get that symbol from? Well, the girl put on her tattoos, those demon traps, he tattooed them in both hands. He said, Santiago, from the moment you tattooed me, some things are happening to me. I mean, you think it's fiction. I mean, but they are really real things that you tattoo. There are people who say, hey, how beautiful, what does that mean that you bring here? No, it's the name of Jesus in Arameo y quien te garantiza que es eso? Exacto, si, si, si Si, quien te garantiza? Yo siempre le he dicho a la gente, digo, a mi me gustan los tatuajes, yo tengo tatuajes

Pero, si me siguen que están tatuando, no? O por ejemplo hay personas,'m gonna go to conocidos get that I'm a de la mesa. I mean, he has a cremestries that I'm super protected. Say, I'm gonna go. God,

when was the school? She's got a lot of the the one is going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. It's going to go. I'm going to go. It's not the same.

It's not the same. It's not the same. It's not the same. It's not the same. It's not the same. It's not the same. It's not the same. It's not they're wearing it as talisman, right? Exactly, like those who get tattooed on the Holy Death. Uh-huh, also. There are many people, my grandson, like a case of a young man who believed in it, who was convinced, he said, no, Santiago, someone makes me angry. I just rub myself, just like the Lampara Marivillosa,

I rub my tattoo on the Holy Death. And what I wish goes wrong. Oh, crap. Yes, I mean, he said it. But I think that this kind of brands I tell you, many times use tattoos that sometimes we don't understand.

There is a certain symbology, right? Yes. That has happened to me Paco. I went to Querétaro and Valkyrie, leaving Querétaro y a Valkyrico saliendo de Querétaro, un lugar muy paro, no sé si conozcas. Es como un coexionamiento privado,

pero tiene un pueblo así donde hay restaurantes, así muy, muy como que te transformas a la época de Robin Hood. OK. Está, hay viñedos y esto. Llegué yo a una tienda de piedras, de cuarzos y todo, I went to a store, and I said, I want this one. I didn't know, I want this one, I liked this one. Almost always when a person at a store asks, what is this for?

What is that for? No, look, que sirve ese? Y para que sirve aquel? Y de ese, no, mira, este le ayuda para esto. Este, la muchacha me decía, no, mira, es que aquí tengo, que esto sirve para esto. No, le dije, yo quiero ese. Yo quiero ese. Era un pequeño dije. Dije, yo quiero ese.

Sin saber qué significa, ni le pregunté. Dije, a mí me gusta ese, yo lo quiero. Pues ya me lo, me lo vendió. Y dijo, aquí le voy a Well, he sold it to me and said, here I am going to put the specifications and everything in a bag. And he kept it. And it turns out that it is the metatron in an archangel. Okay. Yes.

And I read it, no, it is for entities. And I said, ah, look, como que está diseñado para mí. Pasó otra cosa bien curiosa. Nos subimos a esta minivan. Me quedé dormido como 10 minutos. Yo siempre traigo una cangurera aquí. Este, y me quedé dormido y sueño que se me haya perdido, que se me haya caído dentro de sueño hasta que mi esposa me dice, ándale ya, ya llegamos. I fell asleep and I dreamt that I had gotten lost. That I had fallen into a dream until my wife told me,

Come on, we're here. And the thing is, I fell. I said, I'm looking for it. I was looking for it in my dream, under the seats. I woke up and I said, it was like 10 minutes, I think I fell asleep. And instead of looking for it later to see if, because I had dreamed that I had lost it, no, it was a dream, I didn't even listen to it. Hey, the friend who was like that, in two of my seats, says, hey, who dropped this bag, this bag was mine. It was all I said. And then I said, how did that connection happen?

Of course, they are things that are interesting because it's when you say, no, that dreams really aren't just an interpretation of your subconscious. It's also something more mysterious. Exactly. Let's go to the last one. The last song, because I really like that song. It's quite interesting too. That song... Did you put the title there?

No title? No, no title. This... I'm going to tell you what it is. This song is called La Mordida del Duende. This happens in Oaxaca. It's a classic case

of tradition. Oaxaca. In fact, it is a oral tradition because you know that this information is passed from one place to another. It is also talked about with some people in the mountains. It is not the case of one, not of a child, not a special case, but of a group of girls, listen carefully, girls to whom appear duendes in love and leave a bite or mark on their arm or leg. If it is not a bite,

they begin to braid their hair. The bite is not of a human or of a known animal, it is not something that you know, no, it was a bite of such an animal. And it is believed that if the girl responds to the dweller, she can lose her voice or even get seriously ill. These cases in particular generate a lot of controversy because there is not only one, there are many cases, in fact I already told a story about a duende in love, and this duende was going to, and for quick, because many are going to know her,

but for you to know her Santiago, it was in a town, precisely, it is a ranch, and a lady had her daughters. But you see that in the particular ranch you can't go out. And nothing happens, it's not like in cities or urban places where someone can get lost, they deprive of their freedom. In a village everyone knows each other, they are family, or they are town, everyone knows each other. They're family, or neighbors, or friends. So the girls would go out to play, and a girl would start arriving late.

And she would start arriving late, and arriving late. And her mom would say, well, what happened? And the girl would tell her that she had a little friend that she had met there. That that boy came from the hill. Oh, well, look, you're not going out anymore. He begins to punish her, but for this the girl brought some flowers that the little friend had given her.

And these flowers, well, according to the villagers, these flowers grew to the tip of the hill. I mean, it was impossible for the girl to have them, right? That happens up there. And well, the mother started somehow to deny her permission to leave and it seemed that this being knew about this and she started to throw these flowers at the entrance of the house and she started to throw other things as a warning signal.

Then she found flowers in the bed of his daughter. The priest entered and showed that he could do all this. The mother of the child, as I say, these are oral traditions, they are stories that are told in the ranch. He started to tell the people of the town what is happening and a person from the wise's wise people told him, your daughter is pregnant. Your daughter...

A duende fell in love with your daughter. How come? He's after her. And one of the indications he gave the lady was to cut her daughter's hair, as if she were a child, he would cut her short hair and he would cover her with a mud face. And so the girl would walk covered with the mud face, because the owners are very clean. So when she saw her, she would repudiate her and leave her. She wouldn't like it anymore.

She wouldn't like it anymore. And curiously, that story comes to my mind and it's a story because the person who shares this story is the same girl. So she grew up and shares her story of what happened in the ranch many years ago. What do you think of these brands, of these duendes in love? Well, of these duendes, look, I once visited Huasca de Ocampo. There is a hotel famous for its duendes. In fact, there is a sanctuary where people give them money. There is a huge amount of duendes.

And this, what do the braids do? They feel like giving you an explanation. What did they find when they bought that property? What did they find? Who made them? explication que encontraron cuando compraron esa propiedad que no sé estos corralitos que quien los hacía este y resulta que está sentado y ya ves que las mujeres que tiene cabello largo siempre están como que agarrándose lo da tocando el cabello si ya había personas jóvenes sobre todo jóvenes como que decían hay hace me embarañó y hace me el cabello y nada ya especially young people, they would say, oh, I'm getting pregnant, give me my hair back. And they had already done a braid.

And some of them donated, donated that braid. But they were visitors, visitors who came to this place and what they were given the money for, and then when they said, hey, it's that, as you say, if the girl liked the duende, she started braiding her hair and the girls started grabbing, hey, wait for me, hey, yes, yes, you already have a braid marked there. They were marked, right? Yes, that is, they made the braids, but it is known, Paco, in this world of elemental beings that the fairies, you see that fairies are very pretty.

That's right. But they say they are very jealous. Oh, yes. They are very jealous with the man of the house. Yes, I've heard that too. They are very jealous. So, if a woman likes to buy fairies, take them home and be careful,

because they are very jealous of the husband. They can hurt the woman. Exactly. The wife. Yes. Yes, falling in love. Yes. the stories fall in love with human beings. It's very curious, isn't it? It's very rare, all this. Do you think, look, they are sending several comments right now because many people are like, what? What's going on? How is it that they are falling in love? I already lost the comments on this

side. Let's see if they help me. I think that, let's see, if they are still live, they are not still live because I don't know if how we are. Ah, yes, yes, but anyway, I lost, they're not live because I don't know if... How are we? Oh, yes, yes. But, anyway, I lost. But, well, I'll pass the iPad to Santiago so he can send greetings. I... Many people are... They're in shock of... How is it possible that they fall in love with girls? All this is incredible. It says here... Look, it says...

Harrison says... Paquito and Don Santiago, greetings from Istapa, Guatemala. Greetings. He says also, oh and thanks for your donation, he says, Don Segovia, thanks for your stories, you are really an encyclopedia, I confirm, every time I hear it, nourish my knowledge, thank you very much, Nora, greetings, so, he says, Medusa, so toxic, the fairies, no, no, and if it turns out to be much more toxic, if you to greet me here are the comments from this side. Thank you very much He says here he says Viri my husband has a fairy because you have to be careful, right? This lady also greetings from Colombia thank you very much Another person Judy also in Colombia. Thank you for you say Blanca Hernández greetings thank you very much Thank you very much. Blanca Hernandez, greetings, thank you very much. Tierra Hogar says, we dominate the elementary schools and we respect the elementary schools,

but we can also submit them to our will. That is her opinion. Paula from Argentina, thank you very much. She says, I am Didalgo, she says, where Mr. el señor se go via hay muchas historias de duendes Effectivamente y también otra cosa ahí en ese lugar los famosos pastes verdad Hay en cómo se llama en real del monte el monte real del monte riquísimo paco ahí Fíjate platique una platique una cosa con este

sablaticando con condamne I talked about something with Daphne. I was talking about this love affair. I invited a friend of mine, not just a friend, from a place in the Sierra, in Saltillo, in the Sierra de Arteaga. He was looking for legends of the people, of the ranches. And I remember that we went to a commercial break, he says, my friend, I have another story, but I don't know if I should talk about it or not.

I tell him what it is about, he says, you know that bears are very in love, bears? We already have a region beyond, there are many bears in the mountains. In Monterrey, you always see the news of how bears are there, also here in the Sierra de Arteaga. I said, I had never heard of it, but if someone told you about it, a man told me about it, and I said, well, it's real. This is real. Tell me. I'm I knew it. Yes, something very strange. But now that I remembered that the Vendes are very in love, well, the bears too. Of course. And if we go historically, the fallen angels who saw that the daughters of God were beautiful

and decided to cross over there. Exactly. How the human being is such a perfect being that he loves animals, even animals and even demons. There were like 10 stories that coincided with that. He said, hey, it's true, my grandmother said that where she was in the Sierra Mesa de las Tablas, they stole the teacher. And he said, if they were in love, they stole the prettiest. He says, Nora Santiago, the well abused bear.

Yes. Oh man, that's crazy. Seriously, they are stories of the people who live in the mountains. That's right. Sometimes they are very crazy. When I love telling stories about villages, about ranches, I am amazed by the amount of things I don't know. I am new to this. I like the paranormal subject a lot. I keep learning, but I am really amazed

because these are things I have not heard before. Also, little pigs or little marranos that are stolen in other animals. A series of very strange things. Friend, how did you have a good time? Very good, very very comfortable, very very comfortable, with all your audience, how good that you liked it. There are several out there, I must say that it is a delight to hear you, to have you here with us in our studios of Veras Santiago,

I want to thank you very much, to you and your production, to the people who are behind you, also working to bring you those stories. Before we say goodbye, please remind us of your social networks, projects and all this. We are in Relatos por Santiago Segovia, on all platforms. There we upload two contents per week of stories and storytellers.

And, well, very grateful Paco with you, this is forever the invitation, I am very happy to be here with you, with your whole team also with Oscar, with Damne, with Jaciel, with your brother, with everyone and apart from another thing, I enjoyed the food here a lot. Oh, great, I'm going to say a spoiler, I'm going to say a spoiler, Oh, that's good. I'm going to say a spoiler. I'm going to say a spoiler. With Santiago, we're live right now, but we did a recording, a podcast. We recorded a podcast, very special, too special, because with Santiago we inaugurate the fourth season. That's what I can tell you. That's why we're not in our studio today. Cuarta Temporada. Es lo que les puedo decir. Por eso no estamos hoy en nuestro estudio. Hoy pedimos el estudio prestado a los chicos, les arreglarán susto así de por favor, presten nuestro estudio. Vamos a grabar el envío aquí, perdón, vamos a transmitir el envío.

Nos lo alquilaron. Nos lo alquilaron. Está bien caro, eh. Pero con Don Santiago inauguramos Cuarta Tem season we made an episode that is really great you can't miss it because it was wonderful and I also invite you to come to his channel because also Santiago invited us to record stories for Santiago Segovia and like the whole crew, so you can go support and subscribe and well, family, I also thank you all thank you very much to those who were with us,

despite these terrible problems of the internet. I apologize, it is not the quality that we are used to giving, but there was no other way, really, there was no other way. Things that came out of our hands, a trailer, we already said it there, well, it took a post from the light a few hours ago, leaving the internet in this whole area and we are transmitting it, thanks to the work of our Lord Jesus Christ. Yes. Friend, thank you very much. Thank you Paco. Thank you all, we send you a big hug and see you on Monday with a new episode.

Until next time próxima bye bye Hey, we were leaving, we were leaving, Santiago was already there, he was already there, he was even at the entrance, but he told me, hey, I forgot to tell the audience something, Santiago, what were you going to tell them? Hey, if you come to Oaxaca, try the chilaquiles and the tlayudas. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's comeries No, sir regular mental For me no problem. I Missed a paco. We're gonna go to the vamos a las tlayuda More ricas more ricas, you know, I'll hacka in stereo Este coma to esta la gastronomía que ojaca muy rico el chocolate

It goes over the chocolate chocoomio chocomio también mayor Domo así es que pidan lo pero en serio y rompan la dieta Familia que ese mucho Thanks for watching guys!