EXTRA ANORMAL - Exorcismos de la iglesia católica, maldiciones y milagros Ft Padre José de Jesús Aguilar

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

En este fascinante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, tenemos el honor de contar con el Padre José de Jesús Aguilar, quien nos comparte su vasto conocimiento y experiencias sobre los exorcismos dentro de la Iglesia Católica. Desde casos de posesiones y maldiciones hasta milagros que desafían la lógica, exploramos el lado más misterioso y aterrador de la fe. El Padre José de Jesús nos guía a través de los rituales sagrados y las historias más impactantes que ha presenciado en su trayectoria. ¡No te pierdas este episodio lleno de revelaciones impactantes y misterio! Recuerda suscribirte y dejar un like si te gustó el video. Canal de mi Invitado: ‪@PadreJosedeJesus‬ 

And the man no can't know the name of God and for so in the Bible not the

name of God that's of Yabe Jehovah Elohim are a manner to

talk to him but the man can know the name of God

because if he no could dominate. Padre there there are

some phases or some some that a person present

really a position demoniac a force discomunal, and about the

to know things or languages that nobody he has taught a person. And not

things like that in a way in a occasion or in various, there are

people, I'm in demoniado or this person has the demonio. And what

does one is, you know, is tommas water, common and another person,

and if the person and if the person And then it begins, ah, that means, that evidently, no there's a possession, because no is Agawaited. And the demon is stupid, no, for this

type of things. And in the case of the first exorcism that me took to do, I was, I was in the celebration of the mis, we've got to terminate, for the time, there was much people in the church. And it's a

muchachita, like, of some 16, 17 years, he's going and he getting help. And all the we've

that came that was like they were like they were in the phalda. Well,

something that could be a strange. And one that he gets just to

the altar, he gets the knowledge, he's and he goes.

The light. No you're not you're not you ingem for

what you want with mortals and things of that type when the

life is the rather of the effort of the question of the

question because you want to say the things to the mal

that someone that you did you want to you respond

there you go with all the courage you

think you think you think in a first command

so so As you in the type of the type of burglaries, encantamient,

etc., to who are you invocating? Is saying, invocas a God

for the true or no? Even the song he says, no you can't have two

amors. If you really someone who believe to do that God, What I'm going to be able to be a little bit of a few people.

What are you going to be able to do. podcast extra an normal. My name is Paco Arias, and I'm very happy to be in a new chapter for all of you. As you can see, we don't we find in our studio where regularly we're going to we're in other place

that you'll see, in where we know we're going to be an invitation very special. We're with the Father Jose Jesus Aguilar. How is that, Padre? That's all, very content. Thanks for your visit. Thanks for the opportunity to

talking of things that surely many people want to people who don't see they're

they're going to find the form. Many people have been been asking the intervisa

with a intervety because we talked about things more more than that are simple

stories are some some relato of persons that have been living things with times

like grujeria exorcism demonios and the really I am very very happy

to have a expert Like you, a person who has a person who has traveled to Roma, that he has a Roma very, very that's very

empaped of all this. Before to start, I'd like that, for favor, if you manage, networks, not let us for that people

to visit your job. With much all you've got my name, in X, Antis, Twitter, Padre Jose

of Jesus Agilar, in YouTube, too, in Facebook, equal, and in TikTok also. Okay.

In Instagram, equal. Perfect, Padre. When we're when we're when we're Temas

saints that have to have been to church many it's very beautiful because we're very

we're very things and prodigues that are things over natural but many sometimes talk of these

things is a little complicated not be the lot of that much people don't like a

or well on this side of this light the time the time that has to be

with demonology demonios exorcism to you have taken presential something of this,

Padre? Well, enter me of people that said that he took a drugeria,

a chees much. Enteral me also of someone that says being

to be a person or posseid a person, see in reality someone

that is in my 44 years of a sacerdote an exorcism

in 43 years. Wow. And the recent just after two

months. Is that is that in 44 years only two cases of possession and the

majority of the cases more well, in the health healths, problems

of culpability much people who people who tithe culpas for something,

he self-castig and don't count, influence also of the

films, influence of a culture very peculiar because figate that

now that you said you that me to travel, fiat

that in the world of Islam not think in the world of the

Islam no exist no any rito of exorcism

and this call the attention like like like

so the demon act only in different parts of

in other parts no and I know that in great

part has to be to see or not

in this type of this that that that's a theory

not is fundamentally but they're there are there are parts in the world where there

are types of demons that can find in certain parts of the world. It's a theory that

is a theory that but I remember much the words of the father Gabriel

Amor that he he did many and millions and millions of exorcism and he

always is that in the majority the 99 percent are cases that have

to be with a topic with a them mental, but there's that a little percentage where

exists the real bad. I'd like that I'd talk about how were, how were those cases that

you've been, how it's how it's how it's how it's like many times the television and

the cinema no those they're really they're really, they're forces over-humana we're about people

that people like a kind of revelation of because there people who say that a position

demoniac the demonio can give that type of knowledge, like to learn in languages, like to know

in languages, et cetera. I don't if we can talk about this. Yes, well, in first place,

there's the first thing, a position demoniaca would be like, for that the people

comprehend, a muchach that of a man a man a man captivator, a good

voice, good rostro, good a good platic, maybe some aspect economic

interesting, of some way, she has the doors of your house and he he's got to live to live

with her. And one that she is in that he's a young is what in reality is

a person a violent, a delinquent, a copiator, a person that he can't control, that no

he doesn't say, and for the time she, she has no has the possibility

to get this person in a form personal Ante the force of the other Yeah, no

could do it in form personal. That needs to that will be to help her, but for that someone be to help her,

needs she, need her, need her, the same in the case of the demonio. The demonio not going to

enter over a person that no has invited. That's that he has been able to the house.

And with this, we're just the demonio is where the evidently that no. How is that the people can invoke the demon for a possession

profound directly? Is that is it through a fact to him, a through what they're called the Mises Negras or something and in the case in that no there's a possession, if no, more than a influence, is

when the people it invoked indirectly, as the cult of the Santa Mewerite, to San Marlverde, the and this type of and this

type of things. Because for supposedly to do dogeria God not you

will be to make to do to whom you have to come to come to come to

to someone negative that you to do to do things negative and then

here the position and the first thing that does the demonio for

that a person not pida is that is that that's that

that is posseida. Okay. That's the guilty of having done a lot of how I'm I'm going I

say to the other that I'm I'm my life. That's me does that I'm

so. So, so for that reason, much people not acude. Finally, when they're

in an act of humilded to recognize what has passed, the demon is very

able and then then he's very to try to try to avoid that the person

ably. for this reason when you're going to do you're going to and the person wants to pay help, what the demonio does is

that not permit that you know what the person is saying for example help me and what you

hear you and what you is saying the demon is the demon is impiding the person that's

and in those cases you have to be very atent because you can't you can't

you can to find out what the other person is being is like, regisando to the case of the man, like if I

want to enter to the house of that person without the person, it's a unalement

demurated. We're not mentioned a part of that many many times the people have been

these doors inconsientemently and the demonio enter and get to get to say

to say, like you why you say she she she was the she was the she was

the first she was the she some phases or some some muesters of that a person present really a possession of moniaca, really exists something that is a type of differentiator and not

be like attacks epiletic, a thing more psychological, but that yeah, it's like something that's a little more certero that the person if there's a time of possession because there are many

people who have contacted saying, Paco, I've a family of posseid, my brother, my son, but many times not is a possession. Fiatty, that is very interesting this that you say you're good

that you're talking about, because, as a moment, in places where not they're in the demon, evidently, no, it's not in this type of reasonations. My son,

my son is very traviso, because he has a chamook. Sackle to the chamuco. My spouse is well barracho, because he has the chamuco. The chagot is a dog, because he has chamuco,

and, the people, in these cases, when they're a diagnostic equivocated they're a solution is like if

I had a diarrhea and medial a medicine for the cancer so in this case evidently

not it's correct to look a exorcism when the person not is correct how to

say I say I'll to say I'll say something you have said in some

programs when you get to a person no you can immediately say

that is immediately say that has to do an analysis to do a diagnostico. And for this reason, there are saserdotes exorcists,

not because they are the uniques that can exorcisar. Quarcius, because in some places, the obispo,

put a, some sasserdote specifically, for that not a parroquia with much a time, with such

responsibilities, that when I get in a case so, no, it can't attender adequately. A sacerdot exorcist has to have the time

to listen to the people to have one or two sessions to have also relation with the psychologists or psychiatrars indicated, and after of this, to have a diagnostic concrete. Evidently, what is mentioned as the factors

more important are a force discomunal that is much more grand than a person that has led to the gymnasio, and he's prepared, and over the whole, the know of the

language that nobody he has ensued to the person. Those are the two elements more important, and not things like

those that they're that they see in in a purpose, because I'm saying this.

In a occasion, or in various, there are people, I'm in demoniado, or this

person has the person has the demonio, and what does one is, you know, common and

current without a bad thing the arroha over that person

and if the person and if the person begins that means that there's not there

is a god and the demon is stupid for this type of things

so so so so you are you're doing things

but there other things that you can think

you could be a question for psychologic the

power of a person to to move things, because the people can't have this power, and not can't be the demon onlyly, no?

And in the case of the first exorcism that me took to do, I was there, was I was in the celebration of the misa, we've got to terminate, for the time, there were much people in the church, and there's a young man, like

of those 16, 17 years, I don't recall exactly the age, because that was in 1989, and he, went He was going to, and, and all those

we've seen that came to we were in, we'd like they were like they're like the falled.

Well, something that could be strange, and one of the time that he gets the

knowledge, he's got, and it's got the light. Evidentement this makes that

the people start the families, father, my his daughter has been a little

when came something, The first thing you have to do is to avoid that this is to keep in a

spectacle. We're not we're totally in contra of other groups religious that of they're

they're they're moments of a supposed exorcism. That's a certain point to

start to be doing, I don't not only not only only is not only only is the

poor fault of respect that you can't do a person. It's

like if you a confessionary and you see that the person is the most intimate. You, how you're going to

do you a person invoked to the demon and he opened the door of the house? With what do you do

do you do? It's something that the church no it's not it. For that never is

a video video grab or something something of an exorcism for respect to the person.

So what you have to do Yes, we'll give us oration, for favor, no we say that's posseid or not, we'll ask for the person, make, for favor, the gentileza to go and it, and it's

a way of what possible that the exorcism is realized in the house, in the environment of the persons. Okay. The familyaries they've got to the

muchach to his house. I said, I'll get right, we'll see here to what it's and in this moment, Well, you know, the muchcha is a

infirm, the woman has a little problem, you get to the house and you're going to the familyaries,

no? How passed this? No, you're going to directly. Sure, to be a

sundial, no? Because, I'll repeat, if it were the case that the muchach, had a

thought of something that had made in his rollo, you, you start to play the

in the other to cure her, in the other to do you, then platics

a little with the papas, a little, how it's a

food, if it's the first event, and then then you're

you and then you know what he is try to say, you

don't you don't you do you how you do it

the the fact of that they're to they're to

do the show or don't those are so the

the demonio try more bit to keep your forces

and I'll say I'm I'm to see that I'm

the demonio when I went entering to the first

made feel much I'm when entered the I

started to feel and that you make a presence

special and then in this moment my mind he

started to with what the demon was saying and he began to say, but if you at the age

you did this and you of a child was a young, and in your adolescence the demon

the demonio started things that only I know I know. And not things

good, but things tremendous that you can be to be avergoza as a

young, as and with that you are saying you, who who

you're a saint, no is the man most good of the world, and there is where you can get in the

trap and say, de veras, if I'm not I'm good, perfect, how I can't

get to get a demon? And there is where an exorcist has to be prepared

to understand something. You, you're not to get a demonia. Exactly. You are

an instrument of God, but the that's the demonio is God. For so the ritual

what is the invocation First, of God, Father, and Spirit, Santo. You say, I'm going the name of these.

After the invocation of the angels and of the spirits, the saints, the Virgin Mary, to say, and no, I'm

only going accompanied, and for the time, I'm this power, and this power. It's like if you're

going to be and you, you have been a grand squadron, a grand battalion against that you,

and so is how is how it is doing this exorcism that it can be in a session, according to the case,

or can be various sessions. And it can be a long of a week, of various a few times or something. Every case, it will dependient

of how much the person the invoked. And the most interesting, when I'm going to say that this woman had a force

incredible, like me could have been and you also you have to put with a force and, in fact,

you know, you're a force special to control to the person and put her in their place. And, well, then this part

where she starts to pay help, she'll see the garganta, you know, oh, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,

in the middle of what can, because also can be the rictus, for the same, the same, when the person

says, if, or something, is opening the door and you have been the power but you

say what interesting it's because in the movies never pass in what

came and it and the seguiment and the much the muchach dormio

and passed the crisis to the families never they they didn't

how they saw and what the person no to record this.

No, they're not they don't get feel not, not they

get in the questions. I, in a form respectful, I'm going to

after. Two days after, yeah, how you feel how you

see? The other day went to the church, and you did you

give us to give a other, there. There, there, there,

something, something, you feel what you that we need to need to

help to God and there is where the person to say to say, how

he's the coqueteos with the demonio. And that is very important

because because Christ also said something said something there

there can't in that the demonio is and he and he

and he goes and he regress to the invitation, invite?

You think that someone that's been accustomed to be a biter in the house of a muchach and

that has controlled and all is going so easily? It's going to do you do that for regressar

exactly, it's a look to return to and with a serenata and with flowers,

the demon also will also have his form her mose I, I can you can

help to get this nobio I'm I can say the demon, and here

I want to insisting also something the demonio the people how

it's always imagine it with with querns with car of who know, who is

bad chio no, we have to look that

is the angel most and the demon how is you present as the

the woman more more more incantator more more

more more to offer to the more and so

So that is like much people, lamentably it's in this. And permit me for that conclude, and then

to this mucher that she's a recommend, much oration, maintain to firm in those values,

commulga constantly, and this manner, you're going to make that the demonio

not to be able to get a car. As we said, we've talked to

parted because it's written, no, that the the demon's go

and the person could be a poor to be able to the

father I'm a little I'm understood and I'm quite I'm quite

to make a rite of the exorcism there are some there are that they

are not in the Bible that are speciales that are very very special

accompanied of some some type of some that's okay

no no no not no lamentably, because a lot of people it's often

in form of equivocal even is in internet. And it's simply the invocation to the Trinity, to the angels, to the santos is all.

And the order out of it. Look, evidently that the acid, the salt, the water, can serve.

But I insist this, because not it's not it's about the magic. In the like it's important, and take the belladour and

pungal the diamantina and let it solier in the lula in the luna yin, and pongale who knows what? This type of things where are more well the objects, those that have the power

and it's the power to God. Here is the power of God. The lectures of the Bible, which are the Evangelios,

where we say that Christ dominion the demonio and the certainty of that we have the power to take the person. And for that's

I said, because many people are not of these rituals, and of a sudden you know, you know,

bruchos, per shamanes, people that even, even, announce in television, yeah,

almost his channel saying that are angelologists, that have poweres, and that's very,

very, very dangerous because in this case, they're, how I'll open

the house for that the the proper demon enter in there's there are many of

people who have recurried to these other people for X or Y situation and they

they're they they're that they're that they did they did this a favor me or

like a favor me or I'm I'm going to see to see to I'm a

question that I have but before that I don't I want to get the

little bit of the things and in all parts us have shown that it's

necessary to get to get the name of the demon to be

this this is real because there religions they don't

they only with the only the unction of

God to put to and this is false

then is false from where they take to the

part anthrop in the cultures of orient and also I think in as occidental is darly the number to a

person that signific to have power over it exactly for so in the biblia

to the man is he says you let's the name to the woman and that

means that you have you can't you the book of genesis

and the man he put name to those animals What does? What does? What is? What does? And the

man, no, can know the name of God, and for that in the Bible, not so, in the Bible, Elohim. That's the way of Jehovah, Elohim. They're a way to, to talk to him, but the man, no, can't know the name of God, because if no, it would be dominion. Bajo this anthropological, some people

think, if I know the name of the demon, and as to know it, I'm going to dominate.

But evidently that this is a, is a think I'm, I'm, regressando

to the case of the muchach that invited to the man, I don't need to

know how the person the policeian judicial or the brother of

the man or the Papa, for to get it. And I, you take here, desgraciated or I,

no, I know your name, but I'm here you know. And this of the numbers,

too, has surged in great part for a great quantity of people who inventing

things about the angels. In the Bible, for example, and you know,

you know, what are the only three angels that have the name in the Bible?

Miguel. Michael. And he is the Angel, Gabriel. Well, These are the only

And so you're And so you get with the angelologists and this people Satilme, Altielme Altielme Betatron Who knows what's

And eventually this to A much people He doesn't And for the time To talk For the demonio You're too

You also When you When he's about Lusbel Not is that is the name of God The demonio

The word Demonio Enganador Maligno etc I think they're identifican perfectly to an spirit maligno. And God is the person who knows a person who has to take. And it's all.

Right. Tocoucos. And we gave a response indirect, but I want to be a very set up. The response, because I've practiced with much, too, as part of my job, to interview them, and they're saying, I can exorcissar. I'll be honest I'll read the Bible

and there's a part I remember much when Jesus they're saying you expulsas in the name of the devil of Lucifer

and Jesus he responded is that is that no not will prevail his reign

a demon no can't make another demon so when there are people

that I've said I'm I'm I'm a but also exorcisse like my

my head many times chock. So it's something so simple

but I would like that a person prepared to do. Because I only am

a man of this. It's like a person of the Cattle of

Shaloe or of Guadajara will to get to his

best people, I think no. Evident that you have you have you

have someone that you consider clearly a enemy and a

person is in that you attack you Evidently that Satanus not can't be against Satanus. Satanus is against God.

I have a question, Padre, you're as being a man of much a man that's a lot of all the satiety and is it's impopado of all this, has suffered attacks

for part of people, attacks spiritual, talking of bruchos. Normally, if you know, there are people that attack to others by

media, be of the dreams, in the aspect astral, in the spiritual, for simply quit people of the way. It has succeeded this to you?

Look, me have said, me have said, some people that I can't have this type of attacks. You know, because I have two

programs of radio, one, in a cadena international, international, of two to three of the time, a

time, a time, a international, another, in our program, too, international, where constantly

I'm going to the brugheria, against the magus, etc. And evidently that someone will be

anoja against me. But I do you want to insisting, if you do you

have to your mind and you you are the you are the you are the you are the you can

do you don't see if we can we can't we can Acercar, a little, if we're going in the camera, yes? Well, let,

acercate, for favor, here. You know the technique of the judo? No. Well, who is

with the camera, that's attention. A bit, we're we're looking two people, and I

go to venting. You, what does? I'm, I'm a force. What you're doing?

I'm going to, I'm going, I'm so. I'm going, so. Okay.

Now, I'm I'm hallo. You what do you? Pongue force for no... You're just, too. Equivocated. Equivocado. Because you

do not you're not you're not taking the force of the aggressor. Okay. A bit, look at it. Now, you figureate, halame.

If you me jallas, jallame. And if I do you impugue, what's what? I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, And the and the I'm going to and I and I'm

and I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm we're in counter in change if I'm

I'm you're just you're it's appropriate so if if you have the push

if you if they're if they're okay because I'm saying this because in

many people who really really does has done is the same person

Imagineate I put a a pollito moorto in the car in the door to psychologically yeah

if I'm saying they're doing I'm saying I'm doing someone and I'm I'm going to

get me I'm doing and I'm and if of a question in the summer I'm

I'm I'm I'm playing I'm I'm propially to start occasioning damage

against me and here if at a level physical is proven that people with rencour

that people with problems of the past can't can't. See, yes, the psychical

enter to the part corporal, it's comient in somatic evidently that who who think

in the brujury has effects of brugery and I I'm going to the question. You me said, you have done,

well, if they've done some of the I don't have permitted to enter. And I commento

something. I've got 10 years with a problem this, the apparato digestive,

that the medical don't find any problem. 10 years? 10 years. Yes, yeah.

I'm in fact, I'm still, when I go to the car, in the end,

I'm but fichate that curiously when the people me say,

is that not have done have done something? I don't think I don't I think because God

thanks to this that I'm I can't understand more to the people

that's in that because I'm to take an extract of

agave that is the that is the that and thanks to me

I have to this parroki came many of people

for him and has helped to curate or

to make less aggressive a cancer and other type of things. At that the fact of even that this extract me permitted to restore this

church in 20 years where we are right all the teches of 20 quarters, all the claustro all

were all the pieces were in cement wow I said this is this no me could have

occasion not it not seems maldiction at contrary at contrary,

it's a blessing. And I tell you this, because certainly there people who

in their life, they're in some moment negative, that some project no

he's that they are in that they're salated, so I what you say,

it depends of how you can't be that, if in your mind you want, you want,

you're like that, like that, you're going to start to go, with the chaman,

with the chanman, you're going to in a a cadena of the that you will be able

to be able to say a question, but you're in the Brugheria? As I don't need to think

to believe to know that there are that can that can't power. Uh, for

to be a mal, no, I know, put in a infirmat, to cover with

a family, that a person pass a better life. I'm no, look,

I, I'd say, the brucho, if is a lia with satanass and the

person is a devil in your faith and the person creas in the three is in the

job. Okay. If a person wants to get to satanass but the

person to that they are that is a firm in their faith no? No.

No they can. Of actually certainly you have been some

baptisms. The first sign that is on the baptized who has baptized, who is the signal of the cross.

For any of the car that you're going to follow to Christ, no? A mitro exorcism. In your ideals and all. What is the second sign of the baptism, before the water? A bit who are you seeing this channel? A bit of course. Thinker to be, because at least want to the baptisms

and they're not even though. And I do so. And you do a, an helpadita. You've got the box? Or have you ever seen the box? Yes, yeah, sure. You've seen when when someone

is raja of the front what they put in for that see a play and not say they're

like pomades and they're like they're like they're they're they're but they

put it but they for what impede but if I'm so I'm tramposo

no I'm going to put nothing more the permitted of basilin I'm

going to put a one untoing for what it the

gulf go, pass. That's who invented is to put

a in the luching. The gris. The gris that had

their luchas and all the body of the body of and

they'd and luched desnudus to get me like like I'm like

for this reason in the baptism the second sign in the

antiqued was putting an oil santo in of the pecho and in the spada.

Now, as a little bit. And the people in my count as a day. It's a very representative. But this or this oration,

as you said a little bit, is an pre-exorcism. And the oration says, for that you the force of Christ the Salvador.

This impede that the demonio you attack if you don't you know the door. I'm saying

with this that all baptized has a crossa special for that the demonio no interest. If you let's the door,

well, speaking of about, talking about, you consider that for example, it's a mal-chamado,

but so is a game, because not a game, the Uiha, form a part of these rites

to open the thing to contact with the spirit, entities, you know, with food. Receives

a call telephonic and you say, hello, I'm you can

you can't present so you how you you know, how you know, how you could

know, I would say something that maybe very personal of how is your abuelita

a fulanita of tal so that so that me start to do a information

very personal could could be could be but actually actually

actually if you you go to bank or some place that they're identification

okay we're in the word or concrete we have weha the whiffa the whiffa

how surge like a session spiritista was a a mess of a a cup

and put the letters in the a becedario for that the word that the

because we don't we can we can't because if if supposedly

we have communication, because why don't they're not they're doing. So the first we have is to ask there is

there's there's there's a there's and then so, too, don't know

the tablita solo, there's poor mortals that and they don't know

and they're they're so there. There's there's a man, there's a start,

we're, we're coming with the questions. Uh-huh. And to deletriar, there

and the other, and supposedly the murder is talking. After that he's the murder, and the

death, it's a cabo, no? The name of Uiha comes in French and

in the cell, or yeah, in the land also, in the German,

it's, so we're to puter, we're we're not the session spiritista. There's

a man in the salas and that you, and that's a person, you're, you're

your papa, Diffunto. Very well. How can prove I that is my Papa? How

me will show the INE? The difunto. It's complicated. So, there,

curiously, the demonio is the that can be saying that is your papa? Is that

they're they know your past? The demonio is the can say that is

your papa, and then you a trap for that's a whiffa

is to open the door to a spirit in this case

to a murto say in others clearly is the demonio the

who he uses that or the tarot also because who

he does the person to say that you think you think that's

about because there's no that doesn't no that is

simply barage of cart is so Why the tarot can't

talk about the past and the future? It's the paper magical or the

that's the tinta magic, the imprinted where did it.

Supposedamite is the person that he man and the person and that

person, and that person, what is what? And the most curious is

that if you go you go with a person that you tell the

tarot one and more And more time, you go to another, and more tardy was with another, and the results are different. If I have a

disease, and I'm going to a medical, and I go to another, and with another, and with another, and the result is the same. Because in the case of, if you go to a tarot and the people is very credulah, and it's a great, and it's a great, and here, for this reason, it can make that the person simply say

someone who is someone who makes a fraud, because there are many people, they're in the tarot, So they're pittorrean of the people, no invocan to nobody. They're good actors and it's just a cabo. There are others

that if they're using in form of equivocal, invocating to the demon, but each of their thinking. So we're going to

that the Uiha is if you can get to be a thing a biggeros for a person that's put to to try to

experiment with any. Quakier port that you have to things that not are those adequate,

no? Any port that you abras to do you know that's correct to with the

intention, evidently to connectart with forces oscuras, mortals, and this type of...

Yeah, to finalize Pad, I have a question. Biblically, it's prohibited the

burghiria for the human. Of the God... Why you there? I've

read, because I read that God that God of the the practice of the Brugheria. I don't

I remember the book where it's written but if I get to read where he says who he consult

mortes, who invoques adivinoes occupants occupant words yeah very textuales. The

question that I really is why God condemn a Brucheryy. Cree in a

only God says the first commandment to see. At you,

in the type of the type of burguries encantamments, et cetera, to whom start you are you

invocating? Is that invokas a God for the brujeria? Yes, or no?

There are people who have said that is that is real, I don't know what

I think. I think the the issue is that the issue is that because the

people utilize forces occultas forces of the natural and the

antipasas demons, no is a God. So, then in the moment in that you you have a

God and you put a other at the same level, well, but at the same level, no? In that

moment, you know, you are not just getting in a only God. Yeah, he's putting

the faith in another other thing. And we are back to another example very simple.

I can have a partner with the which I have a relation of fidelity and at the same time to

have an amant? No. So, it can, but not is correct. It's it, but yeah not would be the

fidelity. Because I'm I'm going to this, because there much public that think that if it's

can't and no pass nothing. So I don't say to say, if you're saying,

if you're not you're not, I'm not, I'm I'm not but you're a person

I'm not imagine. I think what I know what I'm to make me the life of the other people

every man a man a man a man do you know a guy who do you because

finally we we're in the sacred scripture that God he does to be a human

the life the first chapter of the Bible the

and the life and there and then all the freegators and

all the bendisions because the man uses his his

or because it used in form marvellous. So, evidently that the person human

can invite to their life, to who can't invite a demonios or can invite a spiritos. They can invite in your house a

people negative or a person or a person positive. What I would I would say, I'd say that if

you want the good, look the good. If you're what good, see what the good.

And in the Bible is about about about the values. You'll remember you

that the parable where it's about that one a man in a man in a person

and he went to all the what they have had things things good

a house a carrette in but the but the treasure is more

great so so in the Bible it we we

don't you don't you part for something that

not the pain. No, you deges to get to get the most important, periding your

life, your tranquillity, your peace, et cetera. So when in the book of Levittico, it's not

it's so, I would say, I would say, no, not you're, not you're, for you don't you

know, for what you know, when the life is it's more well of the effort,

of the Lucha, of pardon, of transformation. Why you want to get

to get to the things to get to get to get to get to get

to love to you? There's with all the courage.

Who is is doing? Deh let flue the life.

That someone you offended and who's who is carrying

the rancor if the other is well put limits

but for you can't you can't this In the front, in the brugheria,

is a insatisfaction, a courage, a desire of vengeance. And it's like if I me pica a lacran, in other than to sacchar me the veneno, me lo, I do it, and gozo. Well, one of the poor people, no, but... So, you said, You know, you know what you have an authority, say, let's what you have to do.

No, because, father, nobody, and the Papa can tell to the people what you have to do. what if I'd say is that the song he says, no you can't

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I'm saying by there some books, the magic in general gets to the men who are the people,

the man's the man not had the capacity to have the knowledge of the yearba of this,

of the other budu or so it has been has an origin in this knowledge and we have

talked. This is real, because this of being so, we're above,

could be magic, or could exist to the magic, about the knowledge of the knowledge.

What you is like if one day, I want to do you see a person, and then he's a

perils, and then put this, and yerb and you know, another day, it would be

the same, then it's the ritual what can be. To be, see, you're so you're so

you're so so fregone, if you're just in these fregadderas not so directly,

for what that's for what that's that's you're So, so, so, so I don't believe in you, no? So, so I don't think in you, with

with such chachara. And I think this type of things of the incantamations and the movements is precisely to affect it in the mind of the other person. I mean, I think that this type of the magic surge in form a positive or negative of the desire to superar

some problem. Yes. For example, the people, the people did a know how to eat the

and that's about the and it's he came to the fire for error. And there came a

magic in a sense positive. The people converted the the arena with a light

in vidrio, the people the people did this and the music and that is

a transformation. But there there's people that transform also like as they

inventing the bombas like inventing the drug and all but there no

I don't have a demon to say to the people the things. It was the malddad and this magic negative

surge for an issue for a matter to remediar my courage to remediar my impotency to that

no's enabored to me and the man the man try to to respond

to his necessities can do it in a form more sabia

or less sadia tremendous talk we our event

father. The fact it's important many times to know this type

of questions that you know to understand many things because there's the

people many many times not not are not are not concerned and the

word says many my people perese for lack of the

people saying there there is a secretism very in Mexico

and all the world so there there But fiat

that not is the lack of knowledge because actually the young have been many people

what what is that is that they're not even what's what is the

sabiduria and not only only only because Salomo asked a

time and then after he's a one and he moved

and so the so the saying about the values what

value more what value more the courage that I have

a person or the peace that I'm to have to be that I'm to have

a ferrar me a person that no me and have the power

with me or just let her and find someone who really

congenia I don't have to give to give him to

me want to go to go the fruit

of your work of your technology or to

get the or maybe you're going to or things of this type, no? It's what I many times have commented,

because I've made a lot of people, and after the people commit the error of, no, well, yeah, I did this,

yeah, I'm doing this, I want to, I want to, I'm a fact of, I, exist, a vacio, really.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he was going to feel to, but, you know,

to have done, to, I want to, encounter, a contrary, I'm a vacill. Look,

I've been more to do a course gratuit here on 800 people

every every time. Lamentable in many in many in many in much

important, that is I'm important, valuable, util, meresco the best,

I'm irretible, if I think I think I can remediar the equivocation,

etc. And when When when the people grow with a little self-esteem

think that it's my gags of love, that no is creative,

that no value the that's that they don't say, that the other

are more more important than he and in this sense also the people that

acude to the magic is someone that's that I think more in spirits

in angels and in a God that a more he will resolve

all who really you have a good autoestimma says, oh, if I don't

you have to pay much if you have to be able to get this, you know, more than

you have to have to thank you the people that part of this part of this part interna

that has to be asking that they do you do this pap, mommy say the

demonio and God and the saints, etc. They're in a problem

grave. And the back even impede that rompan the

a cadena to that's unier with the brugheria or

with the santaia. I'll rapidly this thing because much

people do it took. Although the sateria has its

origin in Africa and it's a thought that create the

forces of the natural when when comes to America

and is mixed with many other things in

much lives they they are living in form

authentic, respecting the life of the other. And in many others,

they're for a question negative. So, so I'm respect to a who

they use in a form correct, but there's a person that really really

not me should my respect. What are these people, of those

that I have a reference now, that if it's well, not it's

for your intelligence for your creativity, for your effort, for your faith, but because here the

world is full of mortals. Here, right, there, and there, to the cameraographer,

and there. And there are mortals. They're with mortals. And what is, if it's

a person a person malo, you're you're you're all. Even

that's, you're bad. Although you don't It can't. Even if you're

a person amable, nobody you know, because? Why? Because

you have a bad. What I'm to do? What I'm to do? To help

you? But you have to come? Oh, no. It's is a dispegating,

but still not? A see in the second? To even no?

What do you think? It's did we to find to we need to

make more sacrifices and this so the people going

thinking that is the mortal the and if a person he's going to why you're

going to you're going because you know a good well. So, so I'm

so I'm saying oh, hey, what good that's, your your and your

family, you know, you're going to do you do you do I'm doing? Ah, but what

I'm doing is that you have a mired well, well, well, but

like, but like I'm, I'm, but, tantito, eh? There you

see it he's going to do. So what I'm going to do? So, what is

what's the people when the people get a moment to be a man, I've been

a person and me and me say that if I go to or me afloja

or me disafloca this and I think I'm and the people not so

to start and say for what? Because if I don't to go. And the same

happens with those who are the cult to the call

Santa death that I'm to think what I think what I'm

I'm I'm you know every person has a great

in what I do you what you can say is a

cranium a a skeleton that no has that

is someone to I want to first point

the the murder is a person really is

a person So if the So if the murder is a character The life also is another person

The hunger also is another person The odio is another person Well, but not

are parts of the life, the death The death means the end the limitation

of something So, so is the limit final is a person that exists and for the time

is an idol that the person has created Yeah because many people say

I said I said that cancer. Why? Because my little bit of this, because my little bit of the other, because me has complied. Because we're going to use that. I'm invoked to the

Santa Morty, and who's me appears as if it was the Santa Morty? The demon. And the demon also has the power? The demonio can't even. The demonio can't but then it's how to go and the people that, we're going

to suppose, invoced to the death or without, since to give to tell the demon, it's that if I go and if

me castigue, there we'll start with the problem. And for fear, no romping

with this caden. There's a question that is really for that that the people

say, I don't know this that can at some moment, me unio or to

the bruchery because I was a rucer or because I could with one of them

or because acudy with the Santa Morty or also because

because maybe one of my antepasas he said and I erreded to one

or the other way this the malditions generational not? Well,

not is that your abelit you have to be maldecy but at a

more something that you know that you affect like as your father

and in a moment determined they're there were relations

and they're they have maldecy was a consequence, a repercussion, no?

Yes. Tremendant in those avent of us, Padre. I thank much so time.

Thanks for present us a place where we'd like that we'd like to repeat your social for

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these people are seeing this talk about it. We've got to make more because there were some pre-vist, but I'm always

in the best way to be a bit nervous for to have to have to be many things, but I'm very well,

and I'm here and I'm very good. Sure, that is, father, much thanks, thanks to

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