EXTRA ANORMAL - Experiencia Paranormal | Me Hicieron Brujeria Ft Fepo Aponte @podcastparanormal

Episode Date: April 2, 2024

¡Bienvenidos al episodio tan esperado por nuestra audiencia paranormal! En esta ocasión, nos acompaña Fepo Aponte de "Podcast Paranormal". Prepárate para sumergirte en el mundo de lo desconocido mientras exploramos los misterios de la brujería y los fenómenos no humanos.Fepo compartirá su experiencia y conocimiento sobre estos fascinantes temas, ofreciendo perspectivas únicas y reveladoras. Desde historias de brujería hasta encuentros con entidades inexplicables, este episodio promete mantenerte al borde de tu asiento. No te pierdas esta oportunidad de adentrarte en lo sobrenatural con uno de los expertos más destacados en el campo. ¡Suscríbete para más episodios emocionantes del Podcast Paranormal!

That action, no I'm going to the cause to that person for my actions. But what

what he did this person me led to that I'm that I don't I'm

recognized when I saw the podcast paranormal. I saw the I said

Fepo has converted a person horrible that that's that's

actually, he's even to to your person Paco. That's

that same night a A presidia terrible, and when I desperite, you know, desperte with the mukees so. Desperterte like. Okay.

That's so yeah is of death. To do you want, I need a lot of things. One of the first things that I need is an offrenda. You are the going to pay. You, you took up

to the offrend. Sirve my son, of two months, but not is with the same. It's with of suffering. You've heard, for example, that take the crucifixos,

the people and what do you do with those crucifix? If are women, the madera, yeah, they're encrusted to do you, even to

get to bedasar. If are men, for the door to getasar. So, they're an

d'entes, so, they're rank in the cabo, the eyes, and the eyes,

you're the hands and the feet, they're to collapse pulmones. When

they're like the decision of this entity of this demonio, of before to leave

this body that I think I think you I'm you're you're to get

to get to be to do you go to let's I'm What I'm going to be able to be able to be welcome to a podcast extra an normal.

My name is Paco Arias and I'm very happy to be here with all. Passed some things in these last few months for there

there's even a problem in all the community paranormal and the really

if you know it's now you know what but I I'm I'm with a

person that is of the I don't see the more the most the most

pedd that I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm Fpo

how you Oh, very chido. Much of course. Oh, yeah. Very content in that you're here. Thanks for present me of your

space. Thanks for the attention with us. Of course. No, man. A pleasure, man. You know, man.

You know, this is your studio is your man. Thank you. And the really, I'm a little

nervous. I'm too. I'm even. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, family. This the pain that you keep to at the final

to be able to talk many things many times that much people have been started and I'm

really I'm a expectation of what we we can't we're talking as the content, as people

that we need to give us to give us to get to the long of that we

we've done these projects that really I'm really really we're very we're going to

let's see how you get very very I was nervous, but when I was to grab,

yeah, you know, that the things are going to be very well. And, in fact,

what you mentioned, me is, it's, it's like, that line that we

need to because, being a event, can't, and I'm, and all of, and I'm,

to get to to get to to get to a point of, we're going to talk, many times it's that during

other interviews, other, these, conversations, et cetera, like, you you're going

certain things and you don't know in what someone will say the questions correct and I'm going to

let's all this information I think that this is the moment, so that the people know that that will

be a bit a thing interesting. It will be a carnita. Aver carnita. Family well,

we're not we're just those first instances, you know, so if it's the first time

that you are the first videos that you are the time you're you're you know

you know that the button of the button to this time. And if you

you're through the podcast, we can't callificing with five stars. That's,

that us helps to keep creating content for all of us. We're going

to start, Fepo. Vena. Oye, I know your trajectory, I know

your work, but I want to start the question that always, with the

thing, we're independently to do you to do you do you do you think you

genuinely in the phenomenon paranormal? I'm absolutely convinced. Okay.

Absolutely convinced. We can't We can't what you what you first to create it and then to give to this

serial to the phenomenon to get to a degree to use, for example, what you have you

said, I don't see to be to commenter? Yeah, to have to have to be a

protection. Well, there is a thing that occurs between my infancy

and my life adulta where one I'm going to understand certain things

that before me were like the person exagered, are like confunded at respect

of many things, with the time you you're going to that that's

a difference of other type of of the phenomenon no human all the

what is the part of the phenomenon that is a part of a spectrum very

great but the part of the phenomenon paranormal and I would

say that the the magic or the magic if you can get to be

very very dangerous so. And then I refer to that the effects of

this not are the fact that you for example you can't get to an economy

bad if you're you're or falles with the time. Not me

I mean I'm only to that but the but the brugeria many

sometimes it's in maldisones and and it has a maldison

generational. A maldation generational Exactly. And it's how it's like a a mal genetic in the people and not know

why it's why it's going to and a little because to your vis-abuela or to your ex-abuel that participated

in the revolution for there some things that he took a lot of and he he left marked in the

family, no? And those things are terrible then there are some situations that are

extremely pretty and you know you know you know you start not only to the

invite of the invite of the people that's it's a you're

a, you're a you're a you're you're and you tell

some things about some sometimes brutal not very very very or directly

yeah that they they're occurring a you or they do you do you

are of respect and I have to have to have much good

unfortunately to my person even even my family to

my family we've commented I've had commented is a normal, know the history,

the how we know we know what is the burgeria in their state

more pure, more crud, the way, how can cause causeion really, like you do you

don't only a that okay you're going bad, not how it's going to get

the body, uh, destroy you completely. And as just also you know

to pass this maldition to a tantas generations until that

get someone and decide to cut out with this that in the majority of times it's nothing simple and

it's very it's very difficult that you can't do. And in this moment I remember much

the words of some some of the people who have interviewed that I have been that I'm

more easy for us it's more more easy because never to look to help

help you spiritual because for him not exist. I'm I'd like you

let me let me talk Fepo some yeah yeah personal

but that have to have to be with this rubble of why

really now now now you you're these precautions

and you're you know the respect or well since

I imagine that's but but how it changed

this form this way to look it is

very because talking about this part of the brugery

yeah lamentable because I not had the precaution

two two times to me directly me have done

Uh-huh. It's, it's very weird because of a minute I'm to get a

kind of a lot of that there's not a lot people who in effect can't make the work

in a matter correct. Of course, sometimes me they're making photos of amarrs and immediately

me know that that's that's not that's, so that's not to be a bad, so,

they're going to start over to do you know, and you get asked and you get a great, and

not going to happen, not. Some people that They don't know because the knowledge to the magic

to be able to do a work is a know of the knowledge because that's not so easy to

get to those levels to get to those things. But there's people that totally, total, the motor,

the gasoline and they want to do it and they're because they're things badas, they're

they're they're they're they're in that type of situations and the but all

that's that they can certain things. In a moment, there was a

person that that's that's not that's different in the platforms and differing to the reality. So,

they've been like a person that you're not you're not, so what you can't, but what they're

this part of the studio. But no they're not where there there's a place where there there's a

place where I'm thinking that your life is this. I'm always I've seen in negro, but that

that my life is to the lot of a rockstar. But you imagine these things and one person

has been obsessedionated much the day that I know this person directly me said

I'm obsessed with you know and I said what so I'm so I'm so I'm very amable

with the time well you not not not is that not were to be able but it

was practically a cause and also I understand I think that the people we've lived

in a hyperminoria, but also it's the same with the women, no you know what you do. So, so much work, like, I'm doing a question of, that was being accosted, and after that, thanks to some of my guys,

who said, I mean, he was doing acos, I, took to cut all those those losesos, but no kept there, because the obsession is still, let's hear, let's hear, let's be, and then, so, he's to contact to people

that you and I know and I, and me first, me, one of them, no, and me he said, hey, you know, this a person

and he said, yes, for? Me said, me he said, he said,

I want to you do you do you he said, no, he's my friend, he said,

you know, how do you need to pay, but I want a marre me imagine,

a marre, okay. So, he said, no, and he he said, well,

how you do you know, and I'm to do, I'm doing so, I'm, I'm

making, and learning and and he he said, no but the response is no to

all what you mean that's to say, wow. Inmediately me I'm going to and I'm

going to pass no pass nothing. Yeah. Much time but much much, much time

after. You confi me confi. Of actually, that action not I'm I'm not

I'm going to that person for my actions. But what what he did this person me

He drove to the point that I I don't I'm I'm reconnoce when I'm the podcast

paranormal I saw I'm going to I'm a person horrible that's a person

a person Paco okay you know you know you're you're that's

one of the things that is very strange yeah who who has

who has who has got much time in darce you can't you

you're you're you're So I said, it's improbable, it's impossible, no know, blah, blah, blah. But it's result that there, there was a thing and a friend, that is, he made a a salute, I want a little bit more interesting, very

intelligent. Isabel. Okay. He said, me a little bit of telephone and me said, you know, you're going to be able to. And I was too, I'm too. Can't be can't be. Can't be able. And he said, no, but Isle my And he said, Jorge, that I'm going to buy to buy a service for you. Ben to see, no, no, no, the Cereveza.

I mean, I'm going to do. And I said, no, come to see me. Ben to see me. Then I'm going to be to talk to. Tard, a time in to say, and

he said, you know, you know, this person? And he said, but yeah, yeah, he had much time, no? Yeah.

And I said, and I said, I said, I don't know that had to have a conflict. No, because I don't

do it was public. No, I thought that was a public. this person me contacted and I said oh,

yeah, I'm like, friend of Fepo yes, me he said I'm going to like this much time,

me have seen these books what more have to help me I want to know, I want to

know, I want to know the knowledge, I mean the he knew the knowledge and so

so and so so, and so then then literally has been the has been the

whole my life I said let this book to the two days I said

yeah I I'm mark these part explain me the next

book, the next book, the next book, a new every day every day.

So, it was a devorator of the books. She was very good.

Okay. Very, very good. At the grade of that she was literally

could have to have a liada important. So, yeah had passed to be

the alumna and he was a master. Okay. And, and

of a day I, I'm he said, uh, well, we're

to be Fepo here. He said no, it's that Fepo and I

we don't discusses and we we're just we don't know, he said, he said,

but no you don't you think, but not you know my words, Fepo

will be me. And so then he said like, like, okay. No,

he said when he said, when he said, he said, and me he said, here is you

and I I said ah caray me he said in that the work that you did you know

and I said and I said how can you know how you you know I so I had told

to the people I had we we had we had some

I'm spantos because not that were that were that were I

was doing things things fas. No, you know, you know,

you're in, like if were a reality. Yeah. And, and there was a person talking,

I was in a time, I'm, a chino, and, and I, and I, and I, and I,

and I, I was, and when he had a feeling, a sensation, horrible. I,

I, I, I, that had been done, I'm trying, but, but,

but, but, all the days first I'd start about with the hands like, and I'd dolea.

Of the fact when I was had like the time you're like that's like that's so much time that were my

mukeas those topillos so bigaditos and the same me don't know and then

I'm sorry and he said my mother and he's saying who he said no no I think he's

he's going to let me say let me read let me revisar me he said, okay, we're going to do this to 21 days to liberate. And I said, perfect.

He was, I was I, I was in the year, and the day 20, or so, before that was the day 21, that was he

had been to, the day 20, the liston that I go that I'm here, and that me put here for that,

specifically for that limpia, yeah, I'm going to be to buyer. So, the moment in the moment in the

that I'm so I'm a soniditit so, and I, and I, and I, And I did

What was that And I'm And I'm So, then So I'm And it So I'm not So I'm

So it Like it's Like if you You've been You've been You've got So, I'm So,

And that's And that was The sound And I think For this I think That's very It's very important

To have And so I think Ah, yeah I'm Yeah, And then I And then I'm

And I'm And I'm To try to the A pesadilla terrible and when I desperite I don't desperte with

the mokees so that's like that's that's of so so so

then once had been a marre but he he was and he was a so if

not you're of nobody no you don't you don't you're of nobody okay

and I and I started and I started all all all

so my reality so my reality so so then I'm I'm

going to my mother oh, is that me said you're two years and the

day 20 because that that thing did the thing he's and when he said no,

in that's in this moment you know, this person you know that's

we're doing that we're he's he's and he he said oh okay well

no, is that you know, is that you have to talk and me you're going to

another with these things I said, Isabel, help me, you too

too, for favor. And me says, and they're and they're with this

relajow. And it's like a really chistos. When one is a infirm physically,

yeah, you feel very bad, but you do you do you feel like, and when

you start the medicine, I refer to a infirmities and then then you have to

pass for an operation, you have to pass for certain things that are,

in that moment it's maybe the same the same the same that's

that you injecting things, that you get things put on things for here,

and you don't I want more, no I want more, I prefer the no more,

I'm sure, when you're you're going to little to the end of the end of the

sacrifice. And it's exactly the same. When commenced the process of the

limpecies God my, is a thing really terrible. Okay.

And you start, is that you have to confront those things that

they put on and they start many things and you're in this point where all the days you need

to go back or you need to get to get to get to find out when the things are bad and there

people that that's a question that that's that I'm there's a message and you say

you're doing in the in the en-vib you have a job so how they're how they're

they're they're doing they're they're you're you're just you're you're

yeah, yeah it's all good, and there's good, but

to live it two times in three years, wow. Way, it's muchissimo.

It's muchissimo. And, and then you're you're going with certain things

that, that are really, I'm just just doing just, if in some moment

I'll tell, I'm but now I see the story perfectly

well, and it is incredible. The, abuel of my mom so,

we're my his abel my vis-abuel this person uh took

a woman and then he was separated and he he took another woman

this this this second woman I no is that I'm not that

I'm going to think this this woman was of a one

people originary from here of Mexico where there are the

things important but this this vis-avuel was French so so

then visually was a little different to the other the other

the other in that in that time and also

also then his money so had had like

his things So, he, of a repent he had his children, I mean, I was my mother, my mother

was a little, one day was in his cabo, revising his campos and these

things, and he was his cabo in the day when, like what he'll occur to bavang

and this you've heard a lot of a lot of a thing, he,

he thinks that is like a tornado but a black, and he he comes

to he try to to he, gira, and he it and he he in the

cabal, the cabal and he starts to get to very bad, very bad, very well,

but rapid, he's put terribly bad, to the that he got in

a state as a kind of so okay. So, then he was he

was, he, he, was, he, Muart In Vida So,

And my mother As being, as, as in that the education that's there's a woman

and you do you do to do the limpeas You have to attend too You have to

And I I said I was I was I was I'm a He liable, he was

So, for that he had to do you do you're Yeah, to be Yeah,

he had to He was not did So, simply was a little, but

it was even reducing of time. So, literally, was it was

consuming there. And the doctor's one after other, and nobody

said, that was that was that this was, I mean, that was

the old originary. The second wife. Uh, yeah.

He went and he said, to be, you intend to all, the doctor

said, the doctor, he said, in two or three weeks, well,

he's going to and you know and all the whole is desponding of him. Well, now I'm

okay. And they said, okay. So, he went to to look to a man, and he was

with this man, a old, and he said, and he said, he said, he had a costal,

where I had like many things, and a guyina that was that I'm that I'm

then the guyina there, and was was there, not, a

guyina negro. So, then they entered in the room and they they said that no enter. But she, as she liked these things,

he was to be. Kisovir, and was he wasomable, he'd and he'd and he'd and he said, he put so

his copal with various things and he was, the senior he had to and then he was like

passing the humo and the plants for parts and the pass and then like

the umo he said he said in this and after he was doing pardon

as your let's take the gallina vivable normal and he passed the plants

with the um and so he he was to get to the

guy and pass the plantes with um and

the and the and the in a dialect was like resando

something. And the sir, whita, sudda. Sudda, sudda. And he

was doing this and was doing this and he was a last time, he's put

to the guyina and in that moment the guyina he's he was

in the moment of the the guyina this this sir abre the eyes

he can bring something to come in this moment and the sir,

like if were something that is every that's

a little bit of his he said, he said and he did the stuff,

after then he went. Wow. And he said, I literally see how

this person my abuel, well, in a second, yeah was all right?

Yeah. When medically they were not made not. This is something

that we have We've talked many times a long of various

stories, a characteristic very marked that has a person when was

under the influence of some kind of I'm like I do I

live is that medically there there have no there

they're some they're like they're like they have symptoms

of this could try to be a type of cancer

but we need to do more problems, more analysis, enviards to that place to take a second

opinion medical, but no there's nothing concrete. And, but something that

they're that's the type of people, I remember the words of the unicornio and I

want to say, the person is the person, it's like it's like you're

not see explain it, but each one of us and all we're having

an essence a brio, something that that makes different to all, but that

it's, you know, and you really is a process very dark and impressive because it's

very a recuperation immediate. Something that me surprise, Fepo, of what

you lived in your two occasions that you passed of this time and

you know I've asked because in the case of my abuela

if was a little a little too your body took

some kind of let's desgast some some type of sequela because

independently of when the brugheria is cuted of the there's a damage too

you, you, you did you did you, you, did you do you what you

commented a little of these some some of these things that are, it has

has been it's like when when they're when they they're they're

like your system immunological they they And then you're going to get a super heavy.

Yeah, super heavy of a lot of things. Sure. And, and, well,

I know, no, no, I don't, no, I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I mean, I'm, so, it was, it's,

so, I think, that I'm, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I've done,

something to this chico. I know a person in a restaurant literally we're in the city of Mexico and we're

to have a meat. And we were coming and I came to get a message to the group of diffusion and

me says, no, you I'm doing to comeer, me could get to a photo, and he said

yeah, no. So, yeah, this person super good, and we're

to talk to various things, no, incredible, incredible, and he said, oh,

yeah, I'm going go to go with a friend and he he said, and I said you know, you know,

is that it's the moment but it's that we're we're doing a job but not he's not

he said, he said, he said, he said, and he said, no, if I'm, no,

so it's evidente that has we know, even know, even we know who did the time,

and so he said, bro, this person did you do this person, he's a person, you know,

pern't the job, And even like he said No, I I think No, I think

Yeah, it's It's, it's It's He's a job And he He said, Yeah, so Simply,

yeah, So, simply, yeah, I'm, to this person I see, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm at the person, but so, you're this is the person who has

the person that has the person that has But you know, okay. And he I'm,

because like, because, like you, it's, no does it, no it doesn't have brill. And he said, you, how

you, are you? You're doing? Yes, very well. This, me I'm encante the podcast and I know what I. Well, they've been passing things bad. You know, that's normal. Yes. And he's normal? A-beck, what has been

going to be, you know, a series of situations? And I think, and so, is normal? Well, they say that I've got a brookery, and you, what you think? Ah. Me says, no, no, no, I don't think. I go. I said, no, because well, you'd have been encountered the

job or something. No, no has nothing, but nothing to be. Nothing to be.

Nothing to be. He said, you think I'm a bourgeoisie? And I said, I'm

I don't know. I can't think that I'm going to think that no, but that's irrelevant. Because

you don't you know, you're going to say, well, I'm going to do you, like, I said, and I said,

like, I said, I'm, I said, no, I'm going to send me a phone, send a message to my

mother, and he said, I'm, make a favor. I know that you have that agenda y'et, et cetera. As a space for this person tomorrow

and let the letters. And I said, look, here's the telephone of my mother. Yeah, I said, tomorrow you'll

talk to this hour. So, so, so so, so fast, so I'm, so I don't

want to get to your mother. I said, no, is a molestia. It's that, I'm my job

time, no, no, sit and you're a question okay you

I'm very perfect I did the the telephone and all they're like two or three

hours more of the minute they're they're to get to get to when

they're they're they're he said he's I'm I'm I'm

not I don't to be to my mom because it's that you

can't I'm he said I'm no you're not you not you

don't you're so that she she's that you you're that you're

that you you have to to say to know. No, I'm going to think, I'm going to

meditate. And I'm you, you're still no you're doing a job, you're doing

all, it's evident. And this is gratis. This is gratis. This is great, and

he's evident. And he said to have to be to have. They're to pressionar, they're

to be there because he doesn't and those are the those are the those are those are

those like for that the people to get a clear. If you

can't make a work in the part of your house, in the house,

in the they're they're they're they're so. The work

and we don't that there's there's, there there's a person

and he says, he's, like, how is going to be in the part?

Here, you know, romp's the problem, and there is that. So, those are

those who don't want to discover and those that even no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, I'm like, I'm sorry that you interrup, uh, when I'm when I'm

a person, because in the case of my abuela passed something that's a so, the other,

so, in the second, he was he'spulsed. No, no, no, no,

for his book, for a, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, it's, it's, it's it's something more, I,

I don't know that story, and more than I'll be able to start talking to detail, but my doubt existential and for the while I'm obsessed in a time for interview to

Bruchose, is because she was my mother, my mother, my second mother, and I made much much,

I wanted to know information. There was a moment where I was fulled to the person because I knew who knew

ideas very locus. I mean really, very locus and I know my limits and

was a lot of them. But I had much necessity to know how a job to get a

little bit unospito, impossible, as you do you do this even behind a

part of that that's so different people me said different questions

that have to be how plantar a burghia how make

a but in their majority we have people that

have a high power that can manipulate uh, beings

spirituales independently their name me seduendes that also there's cheneques or any other

spirit more that could get that that's to where is your house, to where

is to where you know, to get a where you know, and for me just like

you do you are the things are the more because are the workes and there there are

even that are to make a person in question of the The question of how

how they can pass from a other is too, is that there's a thing that's there's a thing that's

curanderos but with magic that they can't they're they're things

impossible of places of places yeah and your eyes right the people

think a sometimes in what a pachita that they were they were they were

there And the reason was because Al-Q-Temok, the that was... Possowing the body.

Yeah, he was using the body, had to be able to the questions electrics,

because in their reality, in his moment, when he put to put put on the

earth, no existia, the light electric. So, he had to adapt to

what he had to be in that moment there, for that was that was that

apagable the lights but it's the idea of that could be to get

a digitation trucos et cetera no in a moment I've

seen I've seen things that are so things that are that they have been

to show to do to see, let me where there's there

there's no no no there's no no there's impossible but in a moment

me said a person he had been done this person is a okay

or so not is not even like someone like someone like someone away from let's see

a senior a woman and then so no me he said me to me to tell this my

mother and she she was I remember because I was a little we were

we're going there were some doctors spiritists okay basically are

basically are um magos that's what are I think were three

people that are Okay. And the people and the people and there were images of Christ

of the saints. Of Christ. Of the santa. Of a lot of things. And then my mother he's a

all this and he's a little practicing and studying. Okay. And obviously the first

is that was not the sin-sentied of that. Yeah. A lot of a mix rarer of

all. Why? He said for why? Why? Because they They have in that. And he

He said, you crease in him? It was an image of Christ, no? And he said, no. And he said, no. And in him? No. And in him? No. In one of these, you creas? No. Ah, well, it's irrelevant to

they're there, no? And so, but for why? For example, that senior? A little maybe, they're in this. Or believe in this. Or creen this. No important. The idea is that crea. If she she thinks that

through my hands, he's curing Christ, that he'll create. Okay. But that's cure. Okay. It's like to start to integrate to the people to a idea. Jugar with the faith.

Hugar with the faith. But in positive. He's a, after to know those and see many things, he's a person. And he he said, this doctor spiritual,

he said, my mother, me you're going to tryer, yeah they've checked, no? Me, you're going to

try a panial of adults, me you're going to tryer sanitaries, this type of things,

no? Okay. So, it's they're, and they're to pass a

cross with alcohol, so, like, so they're to start, because they're

to get the time, that was that was in the body, and she

the vintra. And she he's and a moment, then they they're to pass the hand for the

vintre, and when he gets a mind, I have to have much good with the words

because then you see that they put in so delicate. Okay. Of the apparate

reproductor, yeah, there's a guy, and and things. Dentro of the web

it, they're they're a cinturon of a Enrolled.

That was the job. Yeah. All that occurred so while

they were so they were to get it, they were they were and they were

so. He said that my mother, okay. Presidigitation, mentalism, what you

want you want, how madres you, you put a cinturon

into of an wove. No, there's no way. How you put it

in a world? Yeah. It's about a thing, enrolled into the web.

Of each Salvador Freycedo documented also a cinturon in an white of a

wheel and alfile is in the life of eight years. In your

book has the has the picture and it's brutal. That me I'm

made very I said because until that I had the opportunity

to to talk with a person that not has been in the podcast but in some moment I'm going to when I'm

the things spectaculares that I said I'm thinking I'm saying that this person that's saying that's not

not that's a true, that's a job we're a we're used to the world physical and this

occur in the world spiritual for so they're they're these entities that say spirits

mortals for to move sure, for to move to through that matrix and they're

they're in the work but not they're physically the broo-brugia construed the work physically and that

that's a work that has a way digital spiritual they're they're in the other

side that he he'll take and it and it's he's put into to a

person and the other person that's when they're when they're

they're they're the mal is to say, pass it from the spiritual

of the person to this reality of the matter of this take the form of what it is for that you see that you

see that's because the work they did with clavos exactly. It's impressive because we know

what I've got to see, are people are people that are some and persons

that expulsed for, not precisely for the apparatus of the product. For the

door to it's impressive because in the majority this type

of those who are in the ambit sexual are in problems of a

parent, of resentiments for there and they make to make no,

but if not you not not you don't not you don't you're

a case impressive there. There's a case that also is very

very really so I imagine that so I when you

this this aperture of stories for all parts that you get you're

you're you're when you do you do you don't in the majority of

the of your enemy of someone with a you have a problem it's

it's impressive because came of your friends or family

you have topado you do you think what you think

to what you do I've said in my channel many

many of is this is here really no me interest to have to because

we're a person that apart of the part of that's not you know to get a person to say

you know this I'm saying you know this way, what? Decide to do that in the line sanguina

or atentas against the life of your brother you you'll be a

and much sometimes there was a person that question to someone and he said why

don't you don't you don't you know no no no, no, no, it's that. Cabron, it's the same.

It's exactly the reason. Deja, let's start to make stories false and romanticize that's the murder. It's the murder.

So, the two have been to the death. No, the people see this

idea of that's doing it of this form, not doing nothing bad or maybe not

not doing something so I'm so I'm said, I've said, but I'm much

care, because if the person that the person who receive the I'm the energy

that you have to have to get to get to get to a point so it's my part

favorite of all the majority that I have read where the person

that really really suffer the problem that he has you have

in some something yeah well so stories stories

stories for example there one that I used

a lot this she was the abuela of the

seididora that's the story the abuela he knows a a man

and she they're but super so they're so they're that he's that he was he was

and also this quat he was I was working in an ascent so

so like now I'm going to work more because in immediately you know

in that we're we're we're going to we're to form family and

have 11 of his so what's so that this quater in a

moment in the sienda he said take the cabo and see rapidly

for these things that urgen and he said he he's he

boom he is a quick in the car so no

see a ram the ram the ram he he he

he quiver the he and Rueda for a barranco The Curvee of this

Muchachio So, then Well, falle There, like the people Tardt in

in enterarse that he had fallen because They've He's He's not He's

He's He's He's He's And he And so Terrible, No?

Okay Terrible And she In his Dolor Obviously was destroyed

So, the chico with he was to be to be terminament enamored

fallacy in a manner horrible, no? That this not is nothing it was a accident

it was an accident like, an accident, he had a man, and the friend, he said,

that his prima was a and he could canalize with the mortals. He said,

why not we're going with her for you can you can't with this person?

And he said, is in serious and he said, and they that story me

really that story All the energy, to one or other form, can be used for something. But no,

it's the principle of the physics. Yeah. No, they create, and it's destroy.

It's transform. It's equal to, you're going to go to another or other form. And he says,

oh, I'm going to do you know, but so, but so, but it's brutal. It's brutal. It's brutal.

It's, they're, they're to get a person and always I think they're to tell

when you when you when you or the well, you have to go with a person that's that they're

going to be a job, a work, a job of a job of well, no you can coster more

to three zeros. None. No, any, not even to save you. That's they need to

understand it. Who can to cover more of three zeros, you're to be over.

Yeah, nothing. Who knows to you can be in some majority. It can

be able, but have to to have to take care because this world spiritual

function in a manner that if if you don't do you don't you know

or if not you do you not because also the maldard so

because the mind to do it when when you get to this person was a

young that is could be like to make the material but

no devia because not was I'm didn't because he said he

It's called, Antonio, this man. So, he's going to put his bells and all, I say,

now I'm to canalize and I'm, my body, but you need to help you have to ask,

you're going, you're going, you're going, okay, then she enter in trance and he's and he's

yeah, Antonio, you're here, and this woman, open the and in a voice

that, for supposed, not the of this woman, but

also the of the Antonio, he's to start to be a really, and he said,

and he says, he's, and he's, he's, and he's and he said, who,

who is you? C. And he he says, he said, he says, he says,

he's something, he's he's, he broke the coo, he's he didn't

know in the place, and leave me in You want to talk with Antonio? Here,

I'm here. I want to me. You want to him? And then she thinks that this woman is doing a drama.

And a brawl. And he said, that's not so it's and it's and it's and the other and the other

is the prima like, wait, so it's not it's not being posseidate. The issue is in

that he can put to contact with Antonio. But other other thing was there decided in

that moment to enter, no? Yeah. For fin, sale of the trans

this woman, I'm, I'm, I know what what happened, I know what happened, I know what

happened, no see what that's a bad drama, I'm going, and it's going, and the question

is that in that invoked something, and that something, it's an energy that

requires a lot of also, so, so, so, so, but they're

they thought that she. At a little time, another again

to get a friend, and he said, I want to pay you a disculpa.

I want to me a place to a place, and I want to give to

say, what he happened. For what the past with my prima,

the Brouh. No, you don't be a not, no, no, it's

important. It's important that me to this place and it's

important that accept my my disculpas. clear, to where we're

to the funeral of my Prima what happened I went in a cabo and exactly in the

same place where he was he got the head contra a ram

he broke the and his body he fell a barranco so he's

repitient the story again as that because he

was very very very you invoked what at a more she didn't

know she was that I'm to give an offender to this demonio that's

there's there entity what yeah so like they did

nothing and then they're and to ask that's what a question

but why I'm about that I'm like Antonio,

no, no, no, I'm only, it's the form in that that that those people

know that they entered in communication with something clear. It's your evidence personal.

It's your evidence personal. That's what what happened. A sometimes I keep without words when I

hear this type of stories and it's still fortalecing that the phenomenon in the phenomenon in the

phenomenon that's a phenomenon paranormal. Much of people, I've talked about with them

and me have said something that that I impression a because not all

have lived something. There's a a poignado of people who have

lived something that's really a very very very very

really that create a barrier to okay no

I'm I'm to go to do your program to talk

to do actually recently there there is this

person who he said in the program is the

last I I want to tell I'm I'm

something that the people know is the studio and there we're

only the person and you Hasil is in another quarter in the control

his his control where he is where he's working his room

is in the has been to be dark there's there's there

a moment where the man that he's for years ah okay so

so it's it's and a entity the person and a

she gets to have changes in her life, in her life, in their environment,

but of another form this thing took control for moments there

was a occasion that when when starts when you start this

when someone you are saying the and you see

when it's a story invented in that when she

describe something simple. He said we've been in the auto my mom

and you and my mom me need to do that I'm not I'm not I'm

and he responded do you do you my mom has got and in

this moment she he wants to get to they're they've done

because you have been what she was in she was a because

all the people had thought that there had there

lapses where this thing took the control. And in that moment, something,

so, something, but when she's how she kind of his voice and I'm

and the environment I'm going to feel a air frio in the spiel

he'll hear the conversation he's listening in his audiphonos bolt

to his carto and I go that he'll let's a tantito the

conversation and I what what what? What on? If Aguant,

cabron. Algo, something is, like he was, he's, he's very sensible, I remember,

and it's a little is something really is a very much really, is a lot, there's what,

there's a there's a there, and I said, or I'm committed a error, wee.

If you could say the name, the spectro, the spectro, the spectro, the spectro, she was

she not could say the name of the spectro because she has been much fear

Tiam, I mean, really really gole of emotions the record of all what she lived and he

said J. When J. J. J. Jada. Termina we're, we know we're yeah

the things were like the temperature totally was normalizing but is that it was a frio

impressionant so it was something something that was to pass over your back passed by

your back to Jassiel sentiento also there in the court of control

we we're we'll and I'm and I go, vent to Judith and she

and I go disculpame disculpame and I said what did you go no excuse me I know

you know you know you know I don't see what I don't know what happened but

I said I'm I'm in other form and I said vent youud his name has another

name but the impressionant is how when when someone a living of that level

that has to be with possession, that has to be with the theme of an entity, for me yeah, I don't

like to get to get them because it's encapsular it in a creency in a creence. Exactly. In,

in Christianism, about, but if in general, it's just to mention an entity demoniac or something

that's a total to another level, that no has to be with other spirit. There,

there is something in the environment that you feel is that still is there

present. And is that she she said after the last of the talk she was

here. After we we went to come. I go how you you see I'm saying

I was I'm saying was here I'm here I'm I'm I'm there I'm

there Hasiel I can I'm all I all we do you all

we're present there the so the important of this is that

then then then studio. And as also I talked that she's very sensible,

he said, he said, ah, what happened? So, so, so, the story,

the cold is that is new. So, the whole, we're just, well, this, but this,

but still is new. So, but it seems the pesadee, of a time when there

is an air air air conditioned, you see, the air conditioned, but it's

something that I can tell you I can explain, but that you think that you

recorrent all your body. It's a sensation very strong. I know in your studio

have been been past in the past. Ah, in the past in the

past. In the past, that's the and my court was there. I said,

no, no, bro, because get to get to the records of

Vietnam, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, that, that's the place, that's the put so, it was a

house rentada, when the when I I God my

the I'm I'm hermosa of how me let do it because my

intention was that so that he's he'll paint all the paint

all the all all perfect no I want I want to I'm

that you want to say oh yeah this this this foco no

serve so that I don't I want I'm I don't I'm

I'm trauma. It was in that place where me put the first the first first time

that was a part written in and also for so I think that many times has been to

have been with the intention. I don't see if the person knew a not, I

me was that I didn't know and for so I took the precaution

of the life. In brief, because this story I've told you,

but in brief was a person that I was a soltero and I

had started with the podcast and this, this house,

I know this person, for that it was a podcast, but at final I said,

I've entered to my house, he was in a grabation when I said, when I said,

he was he said, he said, with a card, well, that was, that was

a car, that was a car, that was a car, and he said, he was

in the moment in the time, and there was going to find the answer,

the erronea, a you're going to find the why you're so you're

so I'm a lot of a carta and he was in a repis that was just on

the people that were the people who are the time, no? Passed the time and he

started first with things but did something that was what are what are

the person that they don't have in the power. I don't know how it's

the only that I think was that there was a thing because

for example I I was there in the card. I had already had already the card and then one day

for example we were in the person that person that in that moment did the show of cameras in the en-viv

the invite and you and we're we're going to be able to have we've we've done much

beer and only there was a baby and we we had been but muchis so so

so so We have to go to the bathroom. The door was to go to the door. And I said, we started so that's in the

targetta. Yes. You're in the room. Not you can put the because if you put the

secure, then you're into the room. Well, the plan no the targetas nothing,

no, it was in the desperation of that, I mean, we're in a quartito so,

three types that are in a I'm going to go something more will occur here something and I'm

I'm going to get to the door, the manila the manila we're and we

we're going to we're going to vibran my telephone me gave a message of WhatsApp of this

chick and me said the bad to start doors is that sometimes no says

if you let's you're going to let's be able to and I did

one day I go to a year and I was only to have a perrita in a little bit of

my mother when I went to go to my mother and then I'm going to then I'm so I'm so I'm

very can't of the voyage super can't and the perr I thought I'm so I'm sorry I'm sorry and I'm

so I'm sorry I'm sure I'm sure I was so I If you're like, like to serve more water. Yeah, and there water, no?

And yeah. Me, I'll go to sleep, the perra, well, it's to go to sleep. To be your day, day,

normal, et cetera. I don't know, that rar to my perr, but then, I don't know what I'm to go to sleep,

other way, I'm going to get a per person, but I'm talking about, like, for favor, damme, and I was,

and I was and in this I said, what he's, what he's, what he's, the water? I'm sure you

I don't have I'm I'm I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry for serve the water to

and when I went to the kitchen that was there was there was a see the I'm going to

I'm going of water and I even I think surely me kept with the idea of that

I had said and I was sonambo me pared I'm I'm

I'm so I so I so I so I'm so I'm so why you're

so what you're you pass. Uh-huh. I'll go to go to

get to get to do you. Pover per. Yeah. I was yeah,

it was a thing to I'm a so I was just I'm desperated desperated. I said

when I went to when I see the the traste totally basically vacy.

No there was a got a so I was even that the water you know

that's that's that's like like sediment but so my perra no, my perr, no, man, yes, man, yes,

but I, but I saw that that thing had water, I'm sure, I did, I mean, I was like, no manches, and in that moment, he'd serve a water, but, you started, to take, to take, to him, he was desperated, and I was so, way, what on, no? Vibra my telephone,

it said, no, you know, No, I think it was in that moment, not you remember my birthday but you know that's bad to get without.

And I said, how does this? And so, and so, a series of events tremendous. So, I'm

I went to a day and I said, something, what is happening, what is happening? All this of that, that's,

that's just with, with Ale Chihano, that if you want to the material, like with this, with Julio.

Allie has a reference to this. ALE me called of some things that I think the first that's the first

that's not the first was it was it was for his tio of what I'm to do you and they

were the lights and they're what's, what's the malas of those spirits to be able to do you?

Yeah, that's about I'm doing a video of one because I said, look,

look, look, you know, brother, me passed something that

in this moment I'm going to say, the shot if it's it's to be

to be to be to be the evidence I think yeah while I'm

we're talking uh we're we did we did we did we

do the concurro two so so it's a little

of a house with a house with a house

and there there the dynamic of the Mass-A-A-A-A-A-K, that, by the

9, or the time of of the City of Mexico, receive calls in-vibu, and the people in real, and the people me platica all the phenomena that have lived. It's curious because I don't plan on

nothing, man. The people, even I've shown my telephone, and at times, for example, I'm the number, and the messages me are checking and even, I saw a message that me

to give a attention, and I can't give them the click because I want to and I get more and it's decomode to all.

Yes, so I'm to put a mobile, quito and Ibrough the message. Well, I mark

and it and it seems like the people because always, always that this activity

that dynamic there's a phenomenon that's a great repetition of messages. For example

possessions, duendes, themes of courieries, so like they're like they're like they

when it's when it's when it's It's really all the team, and there's

not me will be to get to be. Because we're really sensations that are

more than the suggestion really for these people who have this sensibility they say

there's something there's a something that is something and much people

I'm sure that not me will be to be the those so move

but not it like the air conditioned those move.

If you have the evidence, I can you can't re-enviar to do you? So,

they're they're they're they're they're they're I'm going to I don't

I'm I'm sure I'm so I'm so it's they're pizas they're

the pisa and it's that's a and no well at the the pia no doesn't

the piece of the cross some curses so so they're so they're so they're like they're

okay it's it's mandan the is the people, is a specialist for

to say, and sign and minute and all of basically for a here's to be a

see they put in a bit, let me let's just give me the minute because if at

the first no, no, no, to see the way, well, uh,

okay. Uh, okay. A see, let's see, to see, let's see,

let me turnito. There is that cross? Uh-huh. Ah, if you see. You see? See? So, I'm very, I'm my, I'm my pedd, boy.

I'm still, I'm saying, boy. I mean, I'm so, I'm still in what, caron. I'm here platicando, boy, is to the ventana, boy. And the people, oh, no, everyone, but I'm starting to send videos, hey, checkate, check. De really, no, I don't want to do it, because me, me, me,

I'm, I'm, I'm, my mind is very cabrona, and I've, is, have been able to, a little, then but when yeah he I'm looking

to get to and I'm there to be I'm going to I'm going to I'm going. So, what on?

In my case, are the lights, and right that we have two

that we're that's that that's, that's, that's of those of the

fact, I'm going to talk a lot of a lot of stories, and yeah

that's like it is like the people started to pass things in my

house. Firtes. Like, they're like they're like, move things of the

little. Those the world. The that's like the entity. It's a

really interesting because if if they were luses, for example, that are that they don't

and they're that you and see on the phone, like these, that's that you can

get to the Bluetooth, not they don't they don't, but if they are they

want them and they're so they're like the Piquel to do all they're all

all they're like, so, like, you go and they're and they

can the and they're saying that they're that's things, and then

there's a moment in that was like, like, the cuspid of the things

bad, and for so, like I did a much amistat with

with because I, I know, and I think, I'm, I'm,

I'm, but that every me call for telephone. I mean,

I was like, I'm like, I'm like, and now what I'm so, so,

so I'm about the and I'm saying, oh, my name, what's what's

and I'm, and I'm saying, well, it's going to be in your house, and I

said, yeah, how you know, and I'm saying, I mean, you know, but you

can't to enter to the podcast, I'm, I'm, here I'm sitting

and I'm and I'm said, and I'm there I go to where are the people are the

he said a repis and me he said exactly right of them and he said

I said there there's the problem and I see the there's a there's a so you

never the never you don't no and I'm but if is that is what you

say is being novi if the if the person that put the card there

I'm well no no no he makes every every so god my

oh god I'm and I said no you have to And me said, take much careful,

you have to do this, et cetera, no? No, you know, I'm going to get to get directly with

with asthma. Yes, exactly. What you think that's the thing? No, let's see.

See, I'm, see. I'm saying, I'm saying, is that you know, is that there's that blah, blah,

blah, blah. And me said, how you know, I said, me said, me said, a very,

let me say, and they're, and they're, so, so, like, of the, like,

the, uh, to be to clean no? I said to be where,

where's the issue in that the room and he said and then who did that you know

how you know so all the things that all the things that are I'm saying to do you and I said

no well it's this is this me he got to your perra and

goance to where so don't they're in five hours or so

I can I can't I can't so I'm when I pedacitos like of flowers

for all the other things they're and they're and I'm but this still there

we're we're not we can't talk you know you know you know you

I said and I record perfectly to the words of Lisa a not talk

it directly with the hands in a frasco in a salt of mar

you put you putes there you make to make to the box to make

super to be very much of your house in a busurero or something, that there's a way of that regress and it will be perfect. And I think it's with the right of the right. Well, this, I said, well, no, I don't have salt demar. I'm going to buy the things and

I'm going to do. And, you invited to Jorge Moreno. No, I don't know, I'm going to be it. Good. Thank you. Good. Thank you. Good. So, I'm going to present. He's an investigator serious, very serious. Of fantasas. But he has the capacity to

to see them, and listen to but it's super interesting. I mean, I've said some things that I'm

a lot of it's a it's a crack. And then he had went, when I was he was all nervous

and then when we said, yeah I'm able to get and say it and I'm like, and then I

know, and then we've got to that day passed and he he said, a point you know, and I'm

saying, yeah, I'm saying, ah, well, but what's burglary, and I'm

I said, like, I mean, I said, like, I mean, too, I bet all those things, so, like, like, bye, no? I said, but yeah, it's a shit, no? Yeah, super-chid. And all over very well. Like, two semas before, it will be a occurring a, one, a little.

And I said, but how? And I was, and I said, Madre, but it's supposed that, if, we're gonna, and I'll say, and I'm gonna, and I said, Isabel. And I said, you, and I said, you, ah, no.

Me, he said, before, before, before, before, after to tear it, Limpia your house. So, literally barred down the

into andro out of the way to get into the and you're going to be you're going to do you know

so I'm so I'm to do that I'm saying I'm and I'm and I'm if you're

if you have done the mal like for what I have to put it and all

and I gotry so with the and I don't do I did a ball

it to he's he's he all manches well so

Yeah, I did I know what's there in my house, but I'm and I'm I'm going,

I'm I'm going no, I'm here. No, fiatte that is a

very delicate the thing of the thing to get around this type of objects. We were

still were being lowcos. When we were with Jesus of Nazareth, the

man, so it's so you know, we've been to find to the frule

to go to the of the places with more vulgaria

that I visited wait, so what? What? What number you put? More

than 500 or more of a million jobs. But is that not complete. So,

they're not unclos, rotos, mediums complete. No, we don't

talk about with the hands, but is impressive the amount of

even, the word that the word that's a esoteric wwele a esoteric

a, so it's a color very characteristic. The place

is an incestated an portal and I think they're more bruchos of there but it

is impressive everything what gets to happen when you to talk directly with your hands

that's type of energies or the shock of your energy with the energy with the repercussion

that you can't get to have seen I've heard of people that even

even they even they've even said they've said it's yeah yeah

they're like a fieber like a desgastic is being very too

days, and then they're like there's like there more or

then they're depending on how far they're so much I'm doing this

I'm doing I'm going I'm going so I'm going to say, I'm saying by there

I'm I know that you have top with many things that's toped

with much stories, that's talked with many experiences you have to be

to be there something between your arsenal that you that

you can this I don't know I can't say, but any of my podcast.

No I want to do you do you do it's the censored it's more do it for Spotify

can be crude for YouTube we're going to do we're doing some some some cortecitos

but that you guys I'm even I'm so I'm to consider much or me the same

platform or something for the style is something that is a terror

for the grotesco that could have been so he's to have to have

to censor this there's there is that there is that there

people are there people are and in those things

and things that that not they don't to

pass so so um a person that is

a man but that has fush These These are these Grandes,

Grandes Contract a Brujo But is what I'm saying Because there's Where is where There's where the

People have to Have you To understand What it's What's This is Well, I think

Hefeb This, No, I'm I'm specifically to this The

People The person That's They have They're How to They're How much

To Rar a Cove They've I'm going to I'm going to I'm trying I'm

talking about because what we're like what we know what we are very very small and they're

in a manner a manner a marre is something that's that's that's something

that's something but but entablar a communication with

an entity that that no he doesn't a humanidad and

that you you're to subornar you you through the Alta Magia,

a pantaculo and you do you do you? That's very difficult. So, very difficult,

very difficult. It's like to have two doctorates and do a syrugya to dogeal to say no

any doctor doesn't, not any doctorate. It's something very complex. And in the

magic, that is super difficult. This person can do do it. But not do it.

So, then there this type of the maja, very great, and he

said, I want this. And he said, okay, I do you do it because

obviously the idea was like, look, some year, I'm some some things, I'm some words,

I do an act of magic, literally, where you where you're to be to be a

maybe a someber, a entity, and you're to be to be a chido

and me you're to pay a dineral. Perfect. But not it's here.

You're here with you're going to be in this place. In the way,

we know where is your family, yeah we're where are your parents, all of

all in this moment, checkaditos. Yeah. Okay. So, so, for

to do you want, I need, a chorro of things that you need. Principally,

one of the first things that I need is an offrenda and

I've had been that but the offrenda a difference to what the people

think no is that you me and I do I I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm you you're you're you you

you you you you do my my son

of my two months Bebe. Bebe. But not is with the

It's with the suffering. And he he'll give help to two of his and with

the hands. Terminaling with the life. No. Literally they were

they were they're and they're and in that moment this person has

made not only only of that they were in that he was to have to

do what he was going to have to he was going to enter in a room where they were the

people who have the people of their and there did he he is what he was

what he was something is something that that can not can't only because

someone do it just because it's a magic of really and then

he did he and if he said me he said for that's why I'm

because I don't me to go to that until what I would be to be

complete that that's wow imagine you know I always I

always we've we we're we we're of demons when we're

when we're we're of stories but the baddard malddad provine of us

of the of the women I remember much that in those other

capitals when scudriom some we even the same Bible

we we're we're we're that in the sky there there

there there there there there and he said Oscar

that him God not he would to get to the

magic to us not I mean so I see there's

there there the knowledge that was given to the community

herbularia astrology all what has all the and herves no I didn't

to get to get to another or other form and now I'm I'm

I'm but but you know what what you I learned

a phrase that I really and I'm a amstosoment diffier okay

figgate the the fact the fact now we use we use for this type of

things is because the knowledge is free so me you know

I'm to say something that I'm that I'm that person could have been

obtained in a immediate for me of magic negative of the

magic Or could have done other type of work of pure

blank that they they were to get to get to the same result. Okay.

Without without suffering of horrible but but no know. Okay.

And as he, for him only there only there only there only there is

a way but no is certain there there two there.

Recur that when this this magic gets to the beings

during much time before the existence for example of the Bible the Celtas

the the Vikings etc the same mayas the Mexicas they used they used

this magic in their different vertientes in Africa for God in Africa

yeah they they used these these these these these

these know I'm We're in cintone. But then they got on the crossads. Yes. And when they're the crossadas,

one of the things that they were obtain the knowledge of these people and then so, so, for that the church

is to get out of the magic. Because it's the power absolute. And if only it's you, you are who you're who has

what he said, Lester Crowley? No, he went to there to the Golden Down? Yes. He was public

to the magic that they had. then they just they had the power because they could

access to the magic of the golden down. But no he's never public and said

it's that I'm remember, is that I'm she, was that he was making

that he's making that all the world could possess a kind of

but he's always he has a more of another again

again it's the it's the mald of the man exactly exactly

as as as like I'm like because I

put much the example that even a brute me

would be really really the really the buddos did for to do

it's to do the man who the person but the person

that the people and say okay I can do do you

also I can do so so I think so I think

that it's in the natural of the nature of all that give to

give to that also that too that even is there

there is there comes to because of the because of many times this is something that's

a lot of the people don't know and so you're going to see a at times to cure so they're

they use what the people call demons um so you need you you need

you need to you need you need to generate an space an ambient of obscurity

for that you know so and where they're that proven is so

so so then is exactly what you say is the intention with the

correct. With the with that you are you can't be a magic black and magic is magic.

It's magic. It's the intention that you you're going to do you do you're that you're

that's like and the magic is good or is bad? So it is that really is the Cuchio

in man is of a chef the machine in a machine of a really not is a cuchio

bad and every person every time every we do we have commented many

times how we talking of the humanity change this type of situations

they're a certain fame but I'm the hour I've to say the people

for far you know the people the people they're many

many do do it are so charlatan are in some majority

ohho not not not but I know how

how what So, 99% of the... Yeah. Before, I don't, you know, not you could

open the section of marilla? Well, well, and if I'm the section of maria, and I'm

a section of three. But if you put you in any red social, a brou, brou,

no? Me are still doing a lot of bruchos, whew. I'm a lot of

messages of bruchos. Invitame, invite me. I've I've a lot a experience

that I took a mala with a person. And, and, that is what

I'm I try to avoid. Because, because, because, I'm going to, this is the

moment for the moment to say it. When we're we're, we're in a podcast, is because

we're going to hear what he can do it. In any moment, I, Paco, let's

go, at the that I'm not that you, but if no, it's of that you,

there's a number, there's a number, I'm, I'm not, I'm, I'm not,

no, no, no, I'm, no, no, no, No, no.

I don't recommend to nobody. The person that they're here, if Fepo, were a broujo, well, well, then

if it's, if it were, they're saying, but not it's that okay, no, so, so,

no, no, then there, so there, no, so, there, so, because, the reality,

is that we're not, we're not control us part. So, no, no,

we know, we know, as the person is, well, is a, well, yeah,

in your right, at least I, I mean, I see that you also too, we're doing much with what

people are in this the side. Sure. To what people we give that voice, not? I mean,

inexperiencies and I've committed errors. Sure, because you learn's coming. Sure, but it was today

for today, I go, if they're to the list of people that's the thing of the druggeria,

so they're not only that they're not only that they're not, but it, well,

it's that one, is that one assume that is like very clear or not, the to know

the to know, but because you're you're to be used to talk to talk

to be in these people, you're to be to have many things

that are like, you're a man let's see, is that this is

very important of this time, is very important. It's difficult even

to describe it's the so Jacob Grimber and he

turned done a new a new this great he ended

a new a latis. The latis. But yeah we

we know we've known of other forms. I say there's people who they say the matrix

yeah the matrix there are a lot of numbers and the magic

part of the kind of how function the thing the

reality that that component the reality of this

and how we can make that what we we're doing

what we we're directly we actually we we use

to we need to know that is what does

the Alta Magia. Yeah. If you see these people there, that says amarrs,

this, fortune, et cetera. Abrecaminos. Abre, caminos, blah, blah, blah, blah. The mal

is that there's that there are people who see they're they're doing in real and they're inundated

to their around that they're that they're not doing. Clearly. Only they use

the words. How many we've heard have heard there's Ombre, no doesn't know.

I mean, I'm curas or no? Or maybe yeah, or maybe, not? Well,

is that the quantica is specifically that's specifically that's so, no? So,

so, the, the malutilital the words and all this he does a mal fame

to the not only that's not that they can't to be a mala, but it

in a faraud. Yes, in suse the number of that's the thing.

And then when a person like you have passed familiarly me has passed familyarment or us has

passed between groups or of people or of people that you know if you have a

acude with these people and also that they have been doing they're doing

they robin they robin money yeah so to say to all that he

yeah that's a thing is a thing and it's a thing and it's not important

we're we can't we can't not we So we're nother We can't We're in a person Or another

But for example I don't I'm like So I'm I'm But I'm But of really I don't

I'm I'm able And having DeCre The Unicornia Negris I don't I'm

I'm able With this Temas That not Isabel Because he's got I've gone

So Cullo Every time Every is the First She is the first that me mark

Or my mother Sure I no, I don't know that anyone more

intervene in that. I'm sorry. Isabel and my mother, well, then they're

to attend to millions of people. It's impossible. Yeah, I don't know. But one has to go

to go back that. So, so the first people are they get them and their

carterer, alhensse. And is that they are these little signs of that they're

going to start. I mean, I remember when I said a person very

I know, is that much times, or in the majority, you don't have to tell you anything. They're going to say what you have, but if you get to say,

I'm saying, or you know, your problem is going to be a problem, and if you're because you have a problem.

And with a time it's, you say, because I don't want to, with a so, with more information, are

ma'est, are in laver the cerebral. So, with a lot of information that you let's a change,

you arm a scheme cabron, you lavared the cocoa and they they're the problem

and you're they're in something but you say how you know without you know that

you know I've been used really Fepo and I imagine that you too

and I know they're in redes there there are some I've got

to get my WhatsApp and oh yeah you don't have offered

money yeah yeah yeah well well well I don't

well for you invite and me des exclusive caron. Ah,

the same me des exclusive. I said I'm no, no, is that one

is the real, it's going to how well you say, if I did you

do you have to learn different situations a based of the

experience nobody nobody nace knowing but but the

most the the process is that is you

start areas of opportunity that they can to

end up you go to your content, in your person and about to care to

your audience. It's something very important and then not all the people who all the people is because

I recommend so when I give a recommendation of this person if they're going and busken

me did this is different to someone that I'm having to just like another more

like that another thing is different there for a, um, a type of situation and others for other. So, not is the same that you have a

because naturally you have the disease or because not you care you, and you guys with a curandero to go to a person that you cure of a job. Okay. That is totally different. It could be the same person

can do the two things like in the case of Pachita or Doña Petra, but that no signific that anyone can do. No, it means that it's there where I think we have

to have much careful. Fidate that well, is that then I'm into some things that you know,

you do do you do all do you do this pass if well

there there there a group of people there people that

that are in questions that have for example with with

taking of decisions important of the Mexico of

the Mexico and of the world okay and then

I I I I just I've just to enterer that acude with a person that I know like a

time a week, literally they're saying like, oh yeah, what on? I need to do a question

a pass perfect. Toma and they're going. And they take the decision all those decisions

like politically important or impressarily important a through a single question

and I I'm, I kept thinking so, how is that's what is the question? Sure. Figate,

in the construction of the way, when it's very clear, for example, there's many there's

so, if you was and you ask you to the cards, who will get, not you're

going to be going to but if you don't know, but if you don't know these two people,

now if you to be now, now, so they're so they're In three semana, certain objectives specific.

Okay. They're going to. But they've years doing it, and they've years not

equivocandes. Okay. Because you have found the way correct to do the question, and

today are people who have much power, much money, but no so, no,

they're not so they're, they're so, I don't if they're for a good or

malos, I'm, because it's politics is for a lot, but at final,

they're like, comprending what is the meho of the magic. That's it costed

time. A you costed time, to know, to get that certain people

are not that people, and or, I, I'm not always they're

they're not being things, but for logic, a doctor, a how many

people can operate in a day? I think a one? Exactly. Yeah.

A Brucho or a of power, to how many people can retireles a job of a high power

at the day. Two, one? One, I think. Even with one person can't get to get

various sessions. Exactly. So, so you you're about these persons and like the

political that's a question, and you say you say you're saying, you know, is that in

my house so I'm there's going to do you, oh, no, all, all, my spouse,

my spouse, my husband, me he left. Pong here your targetta of credit.

Yes. And that person to the person to the money can't or not know to know

to know. And if you know, it's that you went to exponate as a victim.

No, they're doing much careful. What, what he said, you know, this person

is the person in the that you have to say, and you have to ask to know,

so no. That's what that says I remember much to the hacks that you do

information that not that's exactly. Exactly. I don't give to that information

but you put this like this mix of numeric with questions and you get the

information, no? These these little Hacks. Oh, oh, your man,

I want to ask you to a question. I mean, I've asked to people

to people who people that people who I'm not human, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I think, who, I think you know you know they're

you know they're so. What's there there enter the phenomenon no

human and the phenomenon and the phenomenon paranormal much or a is a much

and no is that's a problem very difficult is that I know I'm so I'm so I'm

I'm quite equivocal that there there's a line that they can you know

for me it's a line is a similar is that is that delgated

but I think it's a problem very very difficult to respond

that the people so the person no human not

refere only to the phenomenon extraterrestrial. So, we have to understand

the concept of extraterrestre is an entity that has that has a body physical

that's that's nacing in other planet. Yeah, out of the

earth, out of the earth, so is. But a

certain interdimensional is a exterrestrial is a never nacier never

not know not not even in this universe is an exaterrestre

is a no-human. No-humano. And we refer we're obviously entities that have

a grad of intelligence for that can communicate but the universe of this phenomenon go much

more than a moment they're in a moment. If they're only that they don't they say

they're not so that then he starts with the thing paranormal because for example a demonio

an arcocte is a no human no is human Right. Right. No, is human.

Tampo we know if it's not even. No, we know if it's eternal. No, we know, if he occupied a space physically in this planet or in other place.

No, we know. So, there is to get to ligar with the phenomenon no-humans. Because they're no-humans. But to all this,

I still think that with the time we're going to give to the phenomena, not in two groups enormous. In many.

Sure. Those are the reynos. As we're part of the renal, but we're not a baca, nor we're a sorrillo. Sure. We're a primate. But, but also we're a chimpanzee. We're other type of primate. So, if we have to

start to divide us, because for example, the serenophers, they did the area and they did they're, not this part, but also we have to separate those who are entities provenents of the cosmos,

like a ronte, of what could be a angel the kind of what could be able to be a star of a astral

of what could be a entity that he came was being a

thing and it pulverized to to convert in other so

then we so to understand to understand and

talk about like an investigation serious to that

is the part most important so yeah to just

to the question the question maus maus the

omnis are really Well, yeah, obviously So, let's see. We'll say, let's have the question, for a Yeah, yeah, see.

No, but my time for you. Existence, still, sure, because I'm here. Yeah, what's,

what I mean? But the the issue like, a pulga I thought, if in other perros

will have a life. This, yes, it's obvious, it's obvious, it's obvious, now the question of,

the, of the thing, in what in what they're in what we're,

we need to understand a thing that's very important. What we recognize we as a

medicine is part of the alchemia. Right. Part of the magic. Right. The use

of the herbs. Of the herbularia. Of all the herbularia, of all the herbulara, there's extra in these things.

Okay. So, the medicine is magic? Yes. But it's a medicine because now

we can't even at level molecular. And there a process chemical established

for every yeah, so this this this plant to cure of this because who

who knows but you cure? No, no. Yeah we know specifically the why.

Perfect. All these things are going to get and they're going to understand.

Obviously we're what we about us in a principle of how is that

can appear this because they're occupant this attack

that not is in the world but it's in the other person

and people like a person and there must call the

fencing or the tis you think these these

entities that that other planet or reality even from another universe and in

a parpadeo they're they're here and they're they're they're using the method that we're

we're using we're not what they're is technology or magic no I can't

it's that is that is that's exactly it's that I can't I can't say that's

one only for us is magic for for you it's technology

yeah Yes, yes, is that our lack of knowledge, our youths and our youths and our lack of maturity

in this type of theme us obliges to infrascar it's a certain type of phenomena in some some dogmas

some, some creencies that we're we need us we're much to really to really to be

more than the reality as I'm remember the words that me said Lourdes a person

a catulica that be a paris an angel a person passionate for the Omnis, one of the,

I mean, so, I know, a mix, a mess of phenomena, but because each one

he does a different, no, a different question. Yes, a connotation exactly.

Exactly. Exactly. I think that that we think that we need much too to be

even to be even more than the reality. So, is. Of course, what you

comment about, not, these same have made messages that literally literally

you say one something, literally they're doing a thing, and you

are doing that says something, and the investigator you're saying, they're

saying this of God. In where? Ah, is that a second

before put it the rostro of Jesus okay, in a system

geometrical. Yes. Yes. Mathematical, yes, that only can be simply can

be a computer so, yeah. No, you think that there's

other message distinct to what you are you is evident, it's evident, it's there, but we're going to

interpretate, of our form. For us, it's magic. It's magic. And it's, and they, and they,

they're, they, they, they, they, they're, paranormal, is just something

that's just or no, that question for me is irrelevant. That question, for me, not all, not all,

not all, absolutely, but the most, the, for supposed that are reales and

for the question that's what is the thing? Comeprenders. Okay. They degen

to be a phenomenon paranormal. Because if we can domar that cabo we can't

domar that bestia imagine what we can't let us to start if we

we're we're in the brujeria can they can translate information

that's something that can't a little a little auto inospito, lehano,

in a parpadeo, in what that's a lot of to catemaco to Michigan. Yes.

Without to have to get to get a recta, we could then then to travel

other planets. I have a doubt if we we're we're not we're then then

in fourth dimension that is to start of this this quadro and to talk about you

can't be you can't do you do this type of movements yeah to be

to say this is never I've talked and me fascina me fascina

there there was an ser extraterrestre uh exist this is very rare but uh

this is a exaterrestre and he starts entabler a series of communications very important

in the United is one of the Ceres, that recuperate in the accident of

Roswell in 1947 this this occurred between July and the 15

of August when when it's when it's the two of but but it's

the 4 of July then the when they're when they they're to get

to the August and in a last of a month there there there's a

year of there the question was the question was in that in this ser or in the 70s or in the 90s

still not had a significate as important as it's the day of today. Okay. Some certain that the

people that have had been done this knowledge they're using to give us to give us to do something that's not

to pass. The being human, as a while what you're doing in this moment, what you're

doing, what I do you see in the space, no the way in the we're not the way in the

we're Sure. Never will happen that a primate get to another planet as we're

like we're a day we're going to discover that is what what they're in these is,

that technology to be to be to a a man a person that is that's

occupant in this moment a a person that needs that needs to masticer

that needs excretar his desechos that needs water in great quantities

that needs of the sun that needs a lot of things not can do you can

do do things in the space where the gravity will affect severely

those those bodies where the radiation will to destroy and

annihilar severely or well destroy totally those people

where the conditions are to dispedasar that that that

so the human will be to understand something they're they're they're

so much time because not they're for the people because that's

that is that's gris for so so always so not is

a real not is a real but not we're not

we're we we're we spiritually the ether is that

occupant the vasica if that vasica is captured or collision contra the earth yeah

the other the ser extraterrestre never never was present physically but if there is there is we can't

we can't that is the is the is only a carcassita that they used for a

carcassita where you don't see what's that's that's much of the reality

those entities that they are that are they have organs, that are they have

so have been interchamios because repit is very difficult to move

a person of this time to move a distance that

so they're so they're like um like they're

like those are they're so biologically but are

And they're like, so. For those are delgatitos. No, they're not certain things. No, they need to eat, any water, or not. No, it's affect any

type of virus, because how will affect a virus, a plastic, for example, me you know? The body basically is to comepone to attract a

essence. So, they're constructed for a reason in specific. And they can occupy various bodies at

the same time. The nave is constructed too for they and not they're like

like pack we're going to we're going to we're doing the metal no no no no no no so yeah

directly with the power of the thinking the tith constructs what they

need to and that's what gets to get to us we need to understand that we

understand that's the part that's the part that is the exaterrestre when

when you understand they're to get to get that the way in the

space is very entirely simple. And yeah we're doing.

Only that we don't we're not we know. The human now

came to but not physically we're not we're not information. What we're going to

do that the rover we're not information and pass for a computer and we'll be

a photo and now gyrase the right and 10,000 hours after you have your

time you take your place that pass that we'll to build an android where you

don't be to be able to operate from the planet to be exactly Paco will occupy

part of the ether the knowledge to separate to the body

as the spiritists and you you will occupy to be a android

that's not to the radiation or the light and the temperatures or not you

you will be to be your conscience will be to be to be to be visualize

Marte. And the most that's where it's where the paranormal. And this I'm talking specifically of these

entities, the of the grises. Yes. But I don't are the most advanced no. I've

I've seen that they're like a rasa primaria? Yes. Initial. That is.

Okay. That's they're using like the manod of work. Uh, exactly.

That is the obrero. And there are different but there are others those who are like

amfivios that are more acitunated uh they can to have no one a nave.

But are these visitants nocturns that's you know, you're in a good, and there's

like, like, like I'm there's a and they're and then when you notice your

presence, yeah not they don't start. No, no time to displeases for the

right, you know, know, he knows the secreto and you yeah no is the

brugery what he a travel to the lighties. It's directly the

is the lighties to a question of this universe no they can

can change of And others that never have had been a body physical and

they don't they're in they're in humanity. Because imagine to what can do things that are more

than more than to the magic. More than the magic. These entities can get things

incredible but us make with all these movies, novels, etc. We're

make that in some moment we're going to get the humanity of space and the mono

will be being infunded in a trage, and he'll get. No is that

not that's but, but talking of resources, that is more probable, that we gettem all the

resources of the planet for that only a punyado of people can get to get to

other planets or that we're that we're things that we can't we can't when

we're this part and then we can't get to whatever the universe. Much

better. It's a theme impressive Feppo. I don't we're talking about the phenomenon

no human there's much information and also much mal information there's people there are people

and a lot we're often we have found with stories that we've encountered I mean at final

of the reality always supera the fiction is impressive it's impressive what really

we really we can get to know this phenomenon and I know

personally is a phenomenon that I know I know I've seen

nothing I've never seen I'm very bad sure I'm the other the other

thing for that's me has I'm talked about but the thing no-humano

is something that in your moment I I used like that that interaction

never never never unfortunately a encounter a but

I'm also I'm a point and apart I don't

see this you have you have you you

you tendes to feel you tendes to feel like in the phenomenon paranormal or so in the phenomenon

that you say I'm in my case I'm so I'm simply have learned to know to control my

body but they're saying Fepo is Miodos yes okay okay yeah

something something that you know I'm put a mal something that you veas immediately

that you say okay I go you guys you know I passed for there. A me, a me, a, I mean, a, I mean, a, I'm going to do much a year when I was, I'm going to

talk to a thing, because I, I know, I mean, no me interest any of the two persons, for nothing, or so, but, for, for no, I'm interested in one of the two persons that, of those that I'm going to commentar a moment, but, but if they were, you said something, and, to beckonement interesting, and, of some way, that phrase

me changed the life. You know, well, you know, you're, well, you're, as, as, as this person, he said the Diamante Negro? Ah, I've heard of him. Yes,

you know? This is a quote is very so very bronceado, of much money, he's in

television, yeah. Well, this quat. This quater in a moment was, I don't

know why in a podcast, yes, in a podcast, I think with Robert Martine's

and no me I'm sure, and he about that in some moment, I was

I was lavando platos and I'm talking when you class when when you

podcasts. If there the podcast, the plato they're too. Yeah, me know

and I'm said. And then I'm going and then I'm listening that in a moment,

like a much other other people, but Philip Calderon quiss so like, oh,

Tulum is so, no? I don't, I don't know, I'm want to be that the time of Tulum

he was he had been he was so, and then he said, no, and then he said,

he made it to the because we we're going to get this, so, because you

know, rapas, rapace, the sir. And then this quate he said he gave

much fear, I mean have many things and much money, but of to be able to he had costed

the vision that he had been to invester in this place that that was a plus valia

altissima no, clearly simply for the I pritch a person that ostenta

the power and he he had much fear to and he he was they were

and the amazas with them and then what he did

contract a some of those and he's and he's to study and so while while

he's he's he's he's and then he said he said he said

I'm I'm I'm because I'm ignorant he's now that I'm

now that I'm know I'm I'm so you know this who's who

the Diamante Negr the The knowledge you offer many things

one that's the most important for me is the mind so

so in the phenomenon no human I had much I'm

really because I I'm the idea that they

they're to get and they're to get to come

for experiments so so me I think I'm

not not not certainly there are that occur but

not are not those and they are good but no are not not those and then

the thing paranormal for this same situation he entered

without and then I'm there things there you

have to have much to I have there

many there one is obviously the part of

the person not not I don't when when

occur in these things well I know that

for the capric of a person someone, or directly I,

could have to a life only for the capriced of a person. And apart, for the potential destructive

that's a total of your environment. And affect to your endorno. So, that's me a fear,

me, me, I'm a fear, but there has caused a much

fear. I don't not, and I don't know, and I'm about,

I'm never, I can't negate the existence and that is real the theme

of the exorcism, and the possessions demoniacs, for I don't know I don't know.

So that's so that's all the Bible is so no, no, no, no. This really does

that exist in the possessions demoniacas and that the exorcisms if are sure. What

I don't like, is what I say, many times that is what it's what he doesn't

because if even the father of mort the he documenta so

are two things that not never in my life. When there a

position, when you say is that I'm I'm MEDO is that is that are things

horrible Tell me what are those those things horrible and you're going to say the people don't

know when one is posseid that you have to pass through various steps

to get to get to that's very complex a sometimes these people in the

state in the state of possession that can be years that's so you

you're you're well you're you're well you you're well

you more than of what starts with your character

that literally to disminuirling you, you start to put very bad, very bad,

the pesidias, the time you can't be in a day, you know,

a sopa because you know, you know, you know, and you start, and you're going to

vomit, and what you're a chain of metal of two meters. Okay.

So, and you destroy the garganta, so it's metal, passing for your

boca, no, or of a repent to find clavos into your in your in your urinar substances that you

don't do you. That's the principle of something. Then, when they're doing the people that are, in

serious, is that I've seen things so that they've done an exorcism, that's not an exorcism.

And if that person in reality has a problem, if you have to acudy with a father and

they have to take to to take in serious, because if is the

really a possession demoniac that are very few those that have existed in

reality, but if is really, it's very is very very

dangerous. Remember this that in the film? That's they're

that they're they're and they in the narration of this and various

distinctas they're doing a method to to avoid something

that is going to Has you heard, for example, that they're taking the crucifix, the people and what do you do with those crucifix? Yes, it's very sinister.

Well, if is what I imagine, yes. If are women, the madera, yeah, they're encrusted to do you, to getasar.

If are men, for the door tracer, until dispedasar. So, they're an dintes, see, they're rank in the

cabo, the eyes, they're doing the hands and the the feet, you get to collapse

pulmones when when they are in corrallated and it's like the decision of

this entity of this demonio of the before I think that I think it I'm

you're you're you're going to do you, I'm going to destroy. No,

I'm going to make to make that this person I'm going to make a record

imborable for a person that is what is what That if me

a to the human not not they're a fear

that probably when when it they're a way

imborable in you? Look I've seen things in my

my in my nie me I'm a position in

my my new than to let's I tell

in in your in the chapter I have my Crency and I have my faith

and that's me has obligated to see a certain form to be things impression the phenomenon of a possession since that

it's of its a stage of a procession and we get to the person that the person that is posse

I've seen how is the evolution of the since that it's

from to run to from you get the

influence that you you you are doing you but

not precisely you you the influence of and

and it's super so aterrador because you you

can get to try to your family in

a form very so and not you know

and no know so there many things of a

story rapidisima and I remember that that's a life

real and they're in the call a lady a

little but in history rapid is a day

we get to and my mom and we don't get a policeies

and then there and my mom no no he's

up to the second Piso. My mom no parable to cry. No,

we'd see that in persons and in a camilla, they're going to my papa. What?

What's going to? I'm so my papa is, I don't see if my mother, I

can't say nothing because he's crying. Sub I go to the second piece and see a

cordialed colded. This Mr. He gave a card and the card

was more aterrador still he said my papa never never

never never but never most he made of something

but my papa was living a infirno my

my father in the story us told that for part

of his family since very he had the

phenomenon paranormal he so many things, but that for many years he

was being accosable by an entity, that little in his different atapas

was taking control of him. No he got to the position, but

he was he was he was certain things. In the days that voice

he said go to the kitchen, take a object and go to

the court of your kids. And all the time was like a taladro. Do, do you,

do it, and my papa, we'd see him to go to the tent, we'd get to the fire, but we'd say,

and my papa didn't say, and he'd to fumar every time that had an attack of nervos. We thought

that it was for problems of your work, but my papa it was always he was a very

constantly but, but from a other, he started to do all the night's to do

But he never He never said And he said My mom Men's to his But in the Carta

He's He's He said That's A voice A madrugat He's Intensificed

Demasial At the He yeah Withal to not That's He was A point

to do And commit a Well, A trotality A A film of terror

With his own family So he One day He's He was his

family And the Voces they were they he thought how little to

because he first he gets to get my little to get my

my wife I'm planning how how to cover with one

with that but but there there lapses where

he he said he says no I'm my family and

what he is take the and he to

get so so so it's something because even

not not we even the in the entity no has control of your

body but of a form external to be able to do something to do you want to now if

we put us in the context of a person that you possess what you can get

to do to make a person to a example to your own your own

cause the maximum dolor without without even to feel

remodiment and react and be being what you did

after of all what she happened. The case Claudia Michan that is a case

supermating. We've talked about this case many many times we've been studied

much the thing of how she did some how she was the right, the

courtes did it was like a hand shirder so how

really she she not was doing directly how appeared

that something that something that so in all Oscar, that's

like, I'm a salute, how the courtes in the car, were made

with other man, that she was, she, she, she, she, she,

how it was, like, that was that was that was controlling his person,

so, so I think, the time of a position, is, is something,

it's something, is something, no, no, no, no, no, you know,

no, no, you know, like, oh, what's, what's happened,

so, yeah, all, in not talk a little of the

theme of positions. Of the actually it's a time that I'm a lot much talk about

me. I'm going to be movies. Some I don't want to see all

the movies that's in the film. But it's a thing that I

really a passiona. Yeah is that is like it's like it's like that's

kind of very present and we know that we're like the cause and the

effects are terrible. Oh, no, something to do you want to

get to Yeah, almost in this chapter. Well, well,

this, yeah, I'm just thank you to thank you much much. Thanks for, for the

invitation. The fact I'm a super, super-pard. And it's very chistos no,

this. Like, of a certain things, like, like, that all the thing,

I'm going to be extended a little in this and, and like, I'd want to be

in a moment in my world, because there I'm going to to tell what is.

We're we're talking Paco and you and I see that that in another

or other internally with the people and the podcast and I'm and I

say, I have to have much careful for me is very

important the that the good because the error

I made I because I did for so

I'm for I don't I don't This is that I made of brujeria,

when you we've said a lot of a lot of time to change to your reality and you

have to get to do that you have to because I really is that I saw that I said

I'm not that person postpone the idea to the psychologist with the psychologist

the postpong the postpong I'm postpong I postpong I am I'm destroying my body

I'm destroying my environment I'm saying things that not of giving

bad those and more generating odio and then you're going to you're going to this because

there's there's there's other things envidias and you all so so you have

multiplicating and one has to avoid it because you know how they're notes

those demons so so is how they're and they're so so I'm

so the history of terror I don't I want to be the story of the story of

and you start to action of a way different and you start to

change the things and you see, I know now we're we're sitting talking

but if if it had occurred all I think that's for a thing, so if

had been so much time that we we're not we're we're

we're we know, of these things for experiences in car

property and for the way in the way that we can understand that

that's experience and now we can traducing in a story that I

hope that I'm that's that people understand and understand why is here

and because definitely not to this point. If you and you had we had said

a year for so I think I think you and you haven't in that moment

had the knowledge of how weh and we're we're we're not never

never play to never play with knowledge never

they're a whiffa for two never they're in a wayha a less that they're

not a reason specific to do it and not a reason personal a reason a reason

an reason of investigation a reason an reason of et cetera no no personal because if

is personal definitely not you know to do you definitely not jose to the wika see what

what happens to be what is the same the same is the same message that I

always I've always I've and when I did for the purpose that you mark so I don't

I don't ask you know I'm really because to do this I'm dedicated to also I need to

commentaries of no never scopes to come up because you can't never you never

you never you never you know I don't I don't know I'm still my my spouse

me is infiel I so no so really many many a little more, you know,

give, I'm going, I'm going to, I'm going to but it's that I'm going to know all, then just like

you know, if you know, you know, and there's a person professional that in this case, he was Samudio,

who was the he was the evocation with the words in the team and all, I don't know of that, I don't know

of that I'm not he's done and there's my brother. But he's he's just to bring him, he said,

way, and if you pass something of who I don't know what I'm here. Oh, well, well, I'm going to, I'm going to say, I said. But you're going to

that you know that's, we know that's, we know, so. Yeah. So, we know. So that's the question. Cabron, he's all his life dedicating to the phenomenon.

Exactly. So, not for something, is the man that is, so, all the information, all the servitude that he has, that he has very

admirable and his trajectory. So that was even a question that I could be able to say, okay, like,

because I I've said, no I'm going to do it. But I'm someone who I did the

confidence, okay, he's could, I'm sure. But I do you know that your

friend that you're to be able to be a manch, I mean, to that that's a

recommendation, no do you do that. If, if it's really, no, no,

no, no do they don't do they're, not they're with what they're not they

don't know, remember that if you you can you can camer.

The I've done just, if I let me you know, I'm I'm sure

I think in what you do you know, nor what I do you know, or the invitation, but in

this occasion there's a thing that I'm going to say, that was that we're in the

morning we're we're talking that we're and I'm saying, so I'm and the question,

so I'm oh no it's a night, and I'm and I said, yeah,

and it was the same car so, for what I think, for you this? If you're

not, no, no, it's a thing, it's a thing very rare. I know, I know, I know, I'm

seen, you know, I'm seen, in that moment, we're in private, you're going to have said, no, the

net, no, I'm no, I'm and me , and me know, I mean, I remember, that Raul

was called, and the other Evaristo. You'd had said, but, but in reality is

that's what was what me impressionable, because your reaction was very genuina.

Yeah, I mean, because I also, because I'm too, I mean, if I said, well, at least that has a lot in the head, because moved a bit more than, I said, no, is that is impossible. If there's a movement. And it's, of actually, it's going to, it's going to.

It's not, Paco, say, no, Paco, you know, it's, they're really, maybe the camera no, but, I mean, I'm that I'm in this side, and I'm saying, I mean, so, my idea only was only about overposed. And I felt

how this thing really so, no, I mean, and apart, as well, the, the tension of the moment, the, the vibra that was sentia. So, it was a, I mean, I'm a little, I go, I don't want, but, but, well, no, I wish it to

that someone, too, I'm going to, it was the comprobation of that if, if, so, yeah, that was the question. So, yeah, obviously, like, as clarators of content of this type, yeah, you you have the comprobation.

Sure. What more you want to be? I'm sure. I'm too. I mean, I also I'm going to that's

that I'm going to say the way to say, I'm going to say, and actually you too, because we're going to do you and I

did you and I'm sure, car, so it's so, so. So, but no, but don't think that, oh,

yeah, we're all we're not, no, no, no, no. Yeah, we're going to we're going to do we're going to

see, and so, and I so, and I'm so, and I'm so, I want to that the people are being

like a invitation to do it. No, no, no, for nothing the more

the problem the time. Of course not it's not it's no, I'm, I'm used to

give them for me. It's a game, it's a little is for kids. So,

I think that partying of there, to go, to put the cards on the

mess. No, it's not for children. And, in fact, it should,

not should for people that that can have other don't, no, no,

They don't want, no they need, no, they need, no, they need for nothing, gacho in

their lives, if they're kids, if they're kids, I mean, more than you, think in them in them.

De Verda, so I'm like I'm like that. Well, thank you. Thank you. Thanks for this

invitation. Thank you. Thank you to all the final. You know, that I'm all right

to get to the capitos. There's comments if you know I'm done a short

abraso and we're coming in the next chapter. Passen the

beautiful. Until the next bye.