EXTRA ANORMAL - Experiencias Cercanas a la Muerte | Historias de Terror con El Doc

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

¿Qué sucede en los momentos en los que estamos al borde de la vida y la muerte? En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, El Doc nos acompaña para explorar las Experiencias Cercanas a la Muerte (ECM). Desde relatos impactantes de pacientes que regresaron del "otro lado", hasta teorías sobre lo que realmente sucede en estos momentos límite, analizamos cómo estas experiencias transforman la vida y las creencias de quienes las viven. - -. -. -. - - - Experiencias Cercanas a La Muerte con El Doc, la muerte, experiencias cercanas a la muerte, experiencias cercanas a la muerte ecm, ecm, el doc, paco arias, extra anormal podcast, paco arias podcast, experiencia cercana a la muerte, paranormal, paco arias extranormal, brujeria, historias de terror, relatos de terror, historias de terror 2025, paco y el doc, doctor, podcast, historias aterradoras, posesiones demoniacas, experiencias trascendentales

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you until you you in the that that's that

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I don't get to get to the surface. Yeah, no, I was, I was very

tired and I had much fear. I remember that my mind in that moment, I thought,

I'm, I'm going to get. I'm going to get. What I'm going to be able to be able to be able to be a What a lot, be a podcast extra abnormal.

to be in a chapter for all of you this occasion I'm content because me a good friend

a person that all of you know a person that I think you know the confidence

of much and me put very content that we come in this night the doc how is doc

very very well Paco I'm very good thank you so we hope

that your public disrote of this Capitolo, that we had time planning of that we're going to talk.

And, well, after now, it's a invitation, my friend. Thanks to all the

family that is with us. The theme that we're to talk about this night, me he

was a reason. I'm in a situation so. And the people that has consumed the podcast

for, for much time, know, and actually my mother platiced that experience.

She has given that testimony told how it's how it was she. But I never

have indagated of how I've I've what I have succeeded but not how

it was how it and the process of when your body is in

a little between the life and the life and the that we're going to

talk this night is about experiences near the death. A

thing that I'm sure that much that have had been this ashercement to the

death, they're to feel identified. It's something very peculiar. It's

something, a sensation that no, no, no, we can't describe. But right

we're to talk of these experiences. You know, family, who

can't hear this episode in YouTube. you're going to make amablement

family that for favor you please you're you're

you do this your comments if you know if you know

there there there's a button that says you know you and then

you're making part of this great community Doc you

as professional of the health as a person that constantly

is being people that they're going to the other world. How do you this experience

from you can visualize it as a spectator as a medical? Well, to talk of the experiences

near the death, there is to understand it from the point of the point of

medical. For that you understand what is an experience a near the

death, we've we're when a person is when a person is encounter with

their sign vitales so debiles that not is possible

detectals. And it occurs a process physiological in the brain.

All has a order. That that can give an explanation

to all the phenomena that people get to observe. Or to

experimenter exactly. And there is to make in that this type

of situations not are only only in determined

of age, but also there are people who have experimented this type of situations. And, a part of that, for their poor understanding, they can't know that they compare

many characteristics of the experiences nearer or SM, to abbreviate. One of the principal characteristics is the desoblament. The person

can see how is out of his body and, And, well, to elevate and encountering many experiences where

we're saying that is one of the, let's, the initial of an experience to a

death. Dado that there a combination where your brain, and the lunges

get to get to do not, what it provoked that the brain getting

oxygen, because there the system cardiovascular, then it's to have

to have their functions. In the Cerebro occurs in

certain changes. There are hormones, there's substances, there's a great

quantity of elements in the brain that in this state that's

secreted in a form that a form massive to try to

try to let let restables the function cerebral.

From the point of the serotonina the dopamine are

substances that can that can provoke that type of hallucinations

visual and auditivas there is the explanation that's the explanation that the

people live and that the can be a explanation no no

we're not we're we're not we're not we're so it's so it's a

interpretation that can do but but also say that are false or

that the people only invent these stories. It's that I have a

detail because there have been cases of people that have been

died for certain seconds or minutes and when

they're in the murder they have experimented different

things so no there no an There are people that see the

light at the final of the tunnel there people that says have seen have seen

a real there people that says to have seen a infirno

and all this is that is that is that is that is that

and it is a what you are saying depends much the

sesgo of the credences that we we have we

is how our is this grand mess and segregation of different

chemicals that are occurring in the body in the brain and every one will be experimented in

form different now this generate a grand doubt what is really

because at final the people the people is experimenting a fact a fact that's

soceding in your body in your brain but what is when we

when we're when we're when we're we're we're going to see that is the

incognita because many people don't their testimony and

There are testimonials that's lot of all the respect. I'm referring to very

assombros of that were to the third sky, they're with San Peter,

San Pedro he said, that no was his time, he had to be back and

and that and that for them was a reality. There people that's

there said to have been in a little in a little bit and that is

like if they were being a a projector and

they were showing fragments of the newness, of their adolescence, of their adult, and they're seeing their life to pass like if it was a

movie. And there's people that only it's like, like if you're also in a quarter of a little, and at the nothing, you see a point of light and you're going to you're doing a grand tunnel

and that every time you're going to, you're going to, the light is being more grand. So there are Tantas things that are the people who

have gone of the and they're and they're and for all the law medical and you mention as

is valid for them for a reality if it was real for them but in reality

quitando of the side the law scientific what what happens what would

what would I mean because there there's there's there there's this

me generate wow, because it's like when we say, what we've been, our reality is an interpretation of our senses. It's how our senses

are the signals and these ones to our brain and how we know that this is black, that this is color coffee,

or so, really not we are being conscientious of a reality pura. We're receiving a interpretation.

And at more, also your body, you're receiving an interpretation of what is happening

in here. But we'll to the same. It's a say, you know, you're going to

say that's a minute? You've talked much, many, and to try to

desglosal them, we're going to try to some experiences, because

of what we've talked about is that the of the experiences that's

the life is a real, it's something that can't

that many people think that think in the same, do you know the same, see what

the same, and see something that's something that's invented. I, in the personal, I prefer

prefer that that's experiences are reales. Okay. I have the response for what

you have to say, imagine imagineate. A see, I'm going to put a

example. How's people if in this moment selects a 100 people at

And that 100 we asked what religion are or have

been in in a one of those 100

how us would do you Christian a Catholicism Christianism

how how how how is the predominant here in

Mexico we we let let us let us a what

you do I calculate really really a 70

percent let to have it in 50. 50% of the population or of that little population try a sense of credence. Yeah, they're in the chip of that is the sky and is the infirm. Yeah, they're in the sesgo.

If they're experimented a murder, when they, if they're regress, they're going to try an experience, but as all they have an knowledge that was added by those fathers or for

our fathers us are going to tell experiences very similar. So I for so I think that many

people count in things similar for the sexgo that predomina in an, or so in a population

I can see, I can't be like, but right right you say we're going

to talk of these experiences and over all of the case that I took because I

have a case too. Well, to initial the relato I'm

how it's a thing that we're we're decided then I

know I'm I'm I'm I'm a experience that

me so I'm I when was the emergency

sanitaria a excuse if I don't use the terms

correct because YouTube is very special when when

it's when it's a time on the video

well well record we've seen that there certain centers where ingres about the patients with this infirmidate and

unfortunately some were able to get along and there were others that no. I remember that when I was in this working in the

day, he, ingresed one we're going to call her Maria. Maria was of the

state of Veracruz and she was ingressada obviously there's revised

she revised her symptomatology record we know that's a relatively new and in

she no there was a treatment established there was a criteria for the diagnostic and

her severity this she was she was because she had had difficulty

respiratory and was ingressed more than because was saturating

about the 85% percent. Unfortunately, in less of four days, her condition, then pejored,

and it was to be intuada. Obviously, his family, he has a family, you have to

be doing informes, per 24 hours, to continue monetarizing what he refers Mariana

is that he went a point where, at moment of entubar, obviously

they're in all the conscience and they're in their

in a kind of in a kind of inducidid unfortunately Marianna begins

to deteriorars to get in a paro cardiorespiratory because as I'm I'm a

care I was I'm 20 patients and were five

women that were in the in when the monitors

detect that their are to to get for below of the levels

optimos. We're we'll help her tracy is an electric is plain what I'm

saying that practically your carouson do you gettubes well initial manoe

maneuvers I receive help of the health and we use the car

rojo the car of the carrito of the choque we we need to

to start the first discharge and unfortunately the the heart

of Well, obviously, it's a patient grave, and here, there are to talk and say something, that's that sound very very

very, but during that period, it was applicable to the risk or benefit. There were patients that

not, yeah, not, yeah, so, I don't see a manoebras of RCP

for a time. Okay. So, they'd did a priority to the people

that had more possibilities and then it's something that much know

that's not not a but given the patient the the quantity

of the quantity of the capacity was was a situation that

was a very so mariana but unfortunately he actually

respond to the manho that he was a area

where yeah no, well, you know, because no require to be intubed,

recover the conciences, the first is to ask for your family. Like I was the medical

encargated of that patient, me took to me desentubed her, darly practically

the welcome to this world and the first. And the first that is that want to

talk with your family. Obviously not it can do in that moment,

but she me comment something and me He said that only He wants He wants He wants to

With his Moma, with her family And yeah passing like a

month, she found obviously more stable and we keep informing

to his family and what Mariana me is that she she

she she was she was a certain and in the moment

in she she fell in paro she me relata that

he's how he's going to the body and it's like if start to

see to see over over everything she she said how me

began the therapies compressive for initial the mack

and even he used when we use the careto to

but she he was in a form like like from

the part that actually even she she I,

was elevating until that he's to get a point where

there's a light very and what he related is that

he's that's something. And that's something that's all the SM.

I'm to know to know they're not they're a tranquillity a pass.

A pass. A pass. Exactly. Exactly. And she comment that

time has transcurried. For she, not know if are minutes, not know if it's on hours, but he gets to the point where camina, asia, well, the famous Luz. And here, she commented what many, is another characteristic that

compart in the CSM, of that she comments that, she saw her man. But, to her he said, because her brother, no, was, her man, no, was never, or so, when she was, when she was in

brother was in his parents. Uh-huh. And, and he

starts to talk to him, and she comment, that his brother, like in

many places, in many anecdotes, he, he, he he said that this no is

his moment. And his brother he said that he say to his mom that he

he said, she, he doesn't because her woman he's asking that if his

woman is in his Obviously, at the moment that he does, he asks,

he says how is hauled by some force to go back and he gets to descend, to descend,

to go to get in his body. And yeah was that, she she's

that the monitors begin to detecter, so, his frequency cardiac, so,

his signals vitales come to get to when, when

she passes to the pavilion of the patients that they were more stable

we've we've done a video call with her mom and

his mom first me asked that in what conditions was

her because he had to give a bad not

a what the mom he said was that

his brother had had died in an accident

in those days that had been intubated so

not muriel for COVID. And it's here a characteristic very interesting because it cower sense all. She didn't know that his brother had fallen. She, she, she, she, she,

she was, she, she and, for me it was a, well, a problem, more than that. Wow. So, this, this situation, I, yeah, this situation, I I had

wanted to share before even it was in this chapter

we're in the doctor Carla a a doctor Carla Salos

and because when when when when she did the

not a marian that his her effectively his

family had had fall she she she in

she she they despised. And she let's he transmitted his message to his mom. Yeah,

and then I'm talking with the mom. The kid had bought a motor. The mom

not was to agree, but the child, but the child, that's the kid, and unfortunately

suffered a accident that he costed the life. Oh, yeah, I was trying to understand

because I saw his brother, if his brother, if his brother was in house

with his but now that you it's good that the man that's

a accident and then it's a bit of the life has been a

question I'm do you ask a question when a person regress

of the death that was absent let's say for

a time and he and he he has

heard that they have they are different many

many most he mentioned or they said with

the third ojo open or more sensibly to the theme spiritual.

Has I heard about that I've heard about some that they have done

that they're that they're the principal characteristic is that

the people that have experienced that have a

attitude very considerable what they're what they call they

they they're they they they're the fear the

I'm going to tell a experience that that he

told a doctor, the actually I'm the doctor, we're because it's

at Tuxpec. Fiat that when I say to a medical that if you

want, not so not so so much to acceden to talk to this things.

He me said, but I going to tell your experience. As about three

months, I went to visit to his consultorio was a little I remember

I think I was He was I went with a cover-bockes you know for the thing

of the new infirmate we can't call it and I don't mention the name

and the doctor me attend and I didn't cover-bocas and I said

doc no, don't you know don't you preoccupies to me I mean

yeah me did that and almost me cost to the life and

this and then my my body generate anti-cou I said

but in all no you don't He said, because he said, "'Casie me

"'custs the "'and I am a "'and I'm "'when I can't "'how was that "'experiency, "'you know, "'in the taxi,

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"'preneral. "'And I said, "'D, "'inil, "'I'm "'In, "'How was that "'that's

"'that's what "'that's the "'Cast's the "'a question "'and me And he says, yes. A me entubed they're, okay?

And she me kept looking, and me says, but you want to know what you have to be

about the health? You me you want to in a theme spiritual,

right? And I did not I was like the question of if I saw, I

was, I went to go to go to He said, look to talk about

to this. In fact, when I was going to go I remember that I'm anterabirt I've entered

after a little bit of a little bit of a little bit, and say, and see,

look, not me to talk much of this. But, yes, I don't

me could be to be and he he said when this started when this

was not a lot, a process he's He's because he said I started to

attend to patients that had this and I protected with my cover-bockes with

caret and wands I'm and when me so I'm I'm to have

complications because I was a little passad of so etc etc

and and I said I when I when I when I started

to monitor my own symptoms, I only me

was trying to give animus. I said in the moment that

I feel difficulty to where probably probably I'm I'm

more more more as a said paco pass

very very so in two days I was

intubated I come doctor so I I I

started with a night and the The next day, I had to, I needed to, I need to oxygen. And there was a moment where my pressure

back to zero. And I can't say to how it I did. He said that was in a quarter where there were various patients. I remember, he said, that he had a a lot of

mangueras and oxygen, I don't, I remember well, and I remember that even with the

oxygen, me costable to be to be able, I feltia that the oxygen that was trying

to my body, not was sufficient. And I started to try to try to

try to more oxygen, and say only I I just heard how

my body like to the I don't not, not I'm just

jadeyava just jadeaba I'm I'm I'm I'm sorry but I

could move I only with the eyes like I was and with

my man only only I just like he I'm like he

hey help me and I said I'm I didn't

the control of my body only I used how my my boca

or my garganta produced that and my hands just I could I move I remember.

I remember that was a personer mirro to where I was and I

saw how she alerted and he and he he he began

to to talk to more a more company and I said

but I felt how I had still much

much And there was a moment where I'll the the vista to a

corner and the and the here in doctor to the death the

I said how, how is how it? And she was was just he was

a corner it was very great enormous was I was

there was I knew that it was her, I don't I saw the I'm a capuchon that I don't

me I'd see to but was like the paint with the guadana

and I can't to see one of his hands with that he had a

guadana they were eskeletics imponent said I am a Catholic and I

I'm in my mind to pray the first that was the first the first and the first

that's in the sky. And then and liberan us of all. Amen. And it I was to

repeat. And I saw how was a parada in the end. And at the same

time I heard how my body still was making this rio and I

was being at the same time how they'd go back and they went to

and they were and they moved and they moved a lot of things and said I remember that I'm

I'm injecting something I don't I don't I said but but fiatte

the interesting and when I see when I get an something I don't no

I didn't the abuha no I didn't no I didn't nothing

I'm not I was not even not even my proper but the

spelusnante of all is that while this was going she was there

was there was only observing all not he was not

he was I remember that he was a time

for me and they were practically like 10 minutes

and And then they said they were like two, three minutes. So, it was a very rapid.

But to do the time was more slow. Recurred, I said how I started

again the mobility of my hands and how I started to see how the air

passed in my body, I could move and I didn't be

immobile and I'm again to that that skin. And yeah not

he's Paco you I can say that I mean I'm I'm

so I'm with her yeah I was I've had been me

I was waiting but not my time he said I I'm

I'm I'm so I remember I'm so after this like

like like they said No. Ah, well, come you

was, the recuperation was immediate. Yeah I'm out a week

after a time after. I'm recupered of all. But I say a little.

After of that, I can be, at the principle, he said, he was

he was he was he could see, a light that he rodea to the

people. And so I can't to say, and I go to my husband, and say, to your spouse, I see, to your spouse, I'll have a light. The

your, no is black. It's more like, asul, a little. But there are people that are like are in, like

if were a black, and they're in and they're with me. I don't know that was. I know

was where he is where he's put to learn, and he's to learn, and and discover and he enters,

well, in that way, in the knowledge, that something that something

in your interior. Something changed. And now he can be things that before things that

could be the aura of the people, can be a person and say, a me me has

got to people with and I'm in this, if before my

experience near the death, I'm said, Dr. Dr. Dr.

Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. I'm invited

first to do some of the studies and demonstrate that what I had was a thing medical. Now, no. Now, when they say in this, and I those loggro see,

if I can't that I'll ask you ask you to use help of someone. And he's, and I'm going to because I want

more. But this I don't know I mentioned. I said, Doc, me accompany. He said,

no, no, I can talk of this. Because my career medical is in the if I

go to say that now I think in this and I'm many years of study for it's very

complicated for people like people like you know you you're the example of why

you're also you are a person that you're a person that's actually that's when he

he says that's something what you do you do you What do you think? Well,

let's it's something that can't much the people who have had been when they

they're normally they're in a change of a a so, his

horizontes can be too well, there's there have been that

they've been situations more dangerous. Or even those who have been

have been the fear of the life, they're to change

their their mentality, be a good people, provoke a

change in the people. It's something that no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, we're going, with all these examples, we're

doing, that what they're so much impact that us obliga to change

his form to think. It's that's other people other person with the person with the

person with I said he's that's he's the brother, I know this I'm

know a person that's a person that not he didn't he said probably

was because he was other experience I mean I don't see I'm

you know and I tell you that because is a very very

that experience in this hospital when me took to do my internado we got to

rotas for different services obviously in this hospital they'd get rid

of the mania for so say and there and there was one that was

clinically died during his surgery he regress and never

compared what is what he but when was done

of high this person came completely and decided to get

to that the state and it for the United and it was money to get to

get to his family and actually is a pastor there okay so

so so so so much so so that took that they

took a decision including in the thing especially that I'm

a person in my family that yeah not with we're

that's very that's a very that's she was a

man but of a but she when when

so this he haoga he was a point

to move to do her so his mom

thought that she said she she me me

me me no, I'll tell so. She's in the river, she's

awoged, they're and they they're to do these those first

auxilios. He's, but I don't respondia. In that moment they're

they're to call to a man of the people. In face,

in instead of doing doing intent of this, well to

to return to the life, he they're they're a man,

and the chaman and the He says to his mom, Trareg alcohol, much, alcohol, much alcohol. He says, we're going to do it. And the chaman was trying to bathe in alcohol.

And he says, that he said, that he said alcohol in the car, in the head, in the back, and in the back. And he was arching. And what more alcohol and what more alcohol that said that alcohol he was going to try to the life.

Well, this is what was what was going to be in the reality. What what happened with her was different. He says She said that She saw Like in a

Scalera But a A escalera Very, very Great And I I started to The escalars

I was Subying the Scaleras Dice I remember That for me Forer

hours And hours to be up Scaleras And I No I

had to to He said, Recurred that I'm to walk

and I see so to the long as when you're in a tower

very and I still up and I said, I said that

I was saying, when I said, I said, I saw,

I, see, I'm like a door of the so the

cedro great, pesada, enormous that was that and I saw a person when I tried to

open the door one person was a parada like a 50 meters only

he saw the silhouette and in an open and a close of eyes that person is teletransported

to to where was I she me says this person was like incared or like in floor of lotto

sent out of a new. So, not was over his feet. He was sentado. And he was moved like in that nube. And me he said,

why you want to enter? And she says, well, is that, well, I came in much. I don't think so to go. And he says

that this person he says, you need to have to have been nine years and she said no,

no, no I'm going to go to go to go to go. Of the actually I'm well,

I'm not I'm going to go to go to and he says that when this ser

to come his armro like that's teletransport with him like

where it's like if if you see you were a so like

He said, Paco, so as he'd be the mar of immense, I saw, but no had water. It was of vellators, of vellas.

And he said, I saw, I, vellas, great, be one of us that were like that were

upgating, that just that was there was a pure mechita of all the time and of

all the longitudes. And, and, this ser, me to come

the homero, and I go back toletransport to where I was a

bela like to my time. And me says, look, this is

your life. When it's you're then you can't be

then you can't you can't you can't you can't and she,

as a little, I said, I put to a play to and said, how? Well, I know

how you're going to do but I'm going to be to do you know I'm going to go to

go to and he and I said and I see, and I'm sorry I'm I'm sorry

but not it was a, it was a one, it was a she's like a smile

like a so of you know you need to return we're going to be able to be, but

meantime, you have to return. And I remember he said, that I gave many years of a lot,

much got to cry, and I put to to you know, because no me I'd enter.

And I remember, I said, how now I teletransporta to where was the

initial of the escalers, and me and me see, we, we, we we're going to

be. And I said, I was that I was really Tristan and I'm trying

and I was crying and I'm and I'm and I'm and I'm to go back over the

stairs and I'm going and I'm doing, all the escalas I'm

I'm and I remember that when I was a point to go to describe the

same that you mentioned with your patient I'm I'm going going and

I'm the patio of the house where I'm to me a

my body. I saw that there many people that I knew.

And when I was going to a force and he hala and she she

she gets a other again. He says the first I do when I when I

did I my mother let me give me water I've I'm much

set much and I remember that I gave a and I

got to another and another and was talking water and water. And my mom she kept like, to try's much set, and she said, and she

said, yeah, ma'am. Camine much. But when she regressa, he said that he had his eyes yoros, because she had been, to start crying, because no, they had

decided to enter. While the chaman was a festeating, because he, well, he says that, that, thanks to him, he, regress, and, you know, that the alcohol was good, that but that experience

that's experience it was made of life and when you know he said you're and you're saying is that the

sentiment of the rechazzo there was so I think a person that I mean it's like

a tonteria for some I don't I'm going but I know because when that person

me said it's a experience a very very dense me Yeah, a experience

very very very curious has a very curious, has certain semanzas with other

experiences but has their touch unique. I think what we mentioned in a

principle has been to be much this sesgo of creencias like

to say that he gave to the door or the entry to the

sky to the sky and that he is still for obvious

reasons to enter and not it's a moment as a question that's

that person who view there I don't know could have been God

or Jesus or San Pedro so I know how how can interpreter

but I think it was a thing also I think it's a question

there's there there there because he took a set and

things so if how to think for what are in

these things? Well, this relato that I know me

I'm found in a group that there for for so

so in the media social there groups where a

sometimes some sometimes sometimes I know much the

attention so that I got contacted with the

doctor for to me explain how how had been

his case that would share that had omitied.

She is a resident of oncology that was in

his second year as that special that that

has to make pass for different sections of the

hospital where are the patients on those sections,

is on co-pediatria, where, well, there are, well, there are people who are

receiving a treatment. Of this same area, there's a place, a, a,

a cell where are the care of palliative. So, patients, pediatricos

that, well, their state and the graded of their Infermedad,

well, unfortunately, those children are to fallacy. This doctora relata

that when she took rotar for oncopediatria, only there was a child in

in the care of Santiago. And, well, the doctor as was rotating

those two years, but I was But, but a

little to know that the time of the time of Santiago was

was terminated. And she relata that she had had had

Santiago me, pardon that you was an was

an eight years was a little and what the

doctor me and the doctorer is that the last that

Santiago was with life, present what in medicine we know us as a

general. The little the child obviously yeah no not he was

was in cuitous practically to try to make to make their quality of

their moments but the jueves that was a day before that

she had terminated his rotation there Santiago he's

he's to play with her to the until the point of

that he started to to draw I had I mean practically like if

the young not lucid terminal exactly exactly so

so Santiago was Santiago only I was with his mom

because we obviously obviously a diagnostic of a

It's very difficult to manage it in a Pairja and that provoked a sometimes that's separate. Apparently the Papa of

Santiago, was he was abandoned. No, I wanted to confront us situation and the only

that had to get to get to get a time. Santiago, when yeah,

in his ultimate moments, is he is recosted in his camera, is abrassando

to his mom, Santiago I'm going to say that miren yeah my

abuelita and because even signala to the door and his

mom he he he said no try to try to explain to

that no is something real but the doctor but the

doctora obviously try to say that let that he

able to the young. That's express. And what her mom explained is that your

abuelita then you had had fallen. So, simply the little the child

and he said, and they say it's he describes to the person that person

that's a person that is a little, and he's a little, he only said, This makes a click in the

head of her mom because her mom no used that. The who used was that was her was her. The vis-abweller of the little, had a rosario with a cross of a madeer very big, that even

I think was enthrada with with that rosario. And Santiago Santiago begins to talk to that He, he goes his

abuela and that his abuela is his call

him and tristently Santiago fall yes in the his mother.

That great man. That Triste. For many the

explanation more is that Santiago in some moment he

could see the photos of his his and

get with that image for that in his ultimate

moments that family were for him. But if me I'm

in the personal, I prefer I prefer to think that that he was

accompanied of someone. Like they said for there, they're for

him. Exactly. I remember much that a person one once

me said, when a person when a very grave

he and and he and But he's to

say names of persons very and that not are living, go to

prepare for the poor and I said, for why? For

many, even even for the doctors, me I said this

person, are so they're so but for the

people that we in a theme spiritual we know that those people

are coming to come to cross that that's that's between the life and

the life and you don't they're only there are people who are

they are they're for you see to be and I remember and this

I've mentioned and I've When my abolita was now in his final,

I remember precisely was that the mere day the day that she felles. I was

I was with her in her and I was I was I was there was

a moment where she was there was incoherences and he said he said

Pastor how you're how you She's one of hermas. She had many

hermanns, and it only had her and other her minor, and from there were

had more had had fallen and he had fallen and he mentioned the names

of her one one, one one. And she was super happy, and she was

because she she was and said and she started and she started to

and when I'm I'm I'm remember the words that that person

me had said and I remember what I did was simply to

and I said you're you're you're in pass Aulita you

you're in peace no don't be for nothing

you you and so at a little time

she He diedceo But me It's the attention That's the First time That's the first That when these

people They're at Punt to go to They're not They're So, or At least

I don't know How is the situation The reality But at But at Parence, no I'm

To tell A experience That was One of the Experiences At the More My

Impactated that he passed a grand a man a man the I'm the

good producer of a great televisora here in Mexico a person

who has a and that we're we're talking very very

very very very very about this time because I

have a experience I'm a I'm I'm he said wow

and this person me this person he said he he was a he was a he was an adolescent and he was

he was a family going to go to get to be a going to go to he and he and his

brother don't want to go on his mom so no go on you guys I go

with my brother going to go to my brother place. He says, well, his brother

man he's a vehicle. He said, I remember that we're going to one part of the frontera of Mexico with the States and they're going to their vehicle. When, of a

repent, another vehicle no's intercept. And I remember that my brother, with words altisonance, offensive

crosseries and malditions that we're back from the vehicle in that moment I saw I saw the crea

of my brother because I knew I knew that I was that was so it was

a much frio much frio said Paco were they were

climates sumam extremely extremes and it had much free

and I remember that we're up a unidad

to my brother and to me and a and to me I'm what I remember

is that they're a little and they're to get a place

because I think they're they they're they're looking to

to the to the sequestraders so so I'm so

in a carter where there had some some with

some with a drainage and they they they

I remember, Paco, he said, that me had a mordasado of the mouth, so, like,

but I had a much frio, much free. It was a frio, it was a I remember

how my dents so, like, chocaban for so so much frio

that I did. I remember that to respire the air frio, me I dolea, me

ardi, I sentia a dolor, me dolean the bones, I was, so it was a yeah, it's that's that

I don't, no, no, I want to. And, it was a thing. There was a moment

where I started to start the eyes, but I still listening, but I started

to come to a car in a dream, and I started peace, and

And that frio, little to so, and there was a moment where all the free was and

only I started I started a calide something something a, a thing

that you was super calid a a pass immense that I said in

that moment I was conscious and I said, I'm am I'm

more. Or what what happened? I mean, he, while experimented those subconscious, you're

talking about many times but he didn't know what he said but I'm so I'm feel well and

me I feel and me feel free and I know it's a sensation or of fear.

That's a legia is a pass is something that you it's all that the and the

and the pain you know not didn't nothing and he's

I sentia well. But he standing or experimenting to continue analyzing so what he

is going to what's what he got to get to another room where no

he he he thought he didn't know I didn't

give or was I didn't know I didn't

a reality of another and I remember he

said that I simply I felt and I

something something that me you know. And of I'm to feel like

when when it's a circle a sound to your ear to start to get a little to

a little to until you have to get in the ohio and that that's the sound

that you lastima so that's the sound they're those gritos

of the other people that were because there were various who were

in contra of their and when I'm going to hear what

I'm going to hear about other again, regressor the cold and other back on

the pain and I'm like when you're going to know, he says, it's like all the

sensations and all the forms of the way and they were back. Yeah I sentia

I felt a dolor, and I'm restimed to the ears and the light, or so

it was like when all again again that he he's muriel

of hypotermia when they were when they started to try to reanimarlo

and is when he regressa but me describes Paco is doloroso to

gover to me and it's so the people

these are conclusions of him for so the people don't

want to return the people is in a place

where there There no, no, there's suffering, where it's a beautiful. And for me in that moment, it was, oh, I'm going to again again, but why? Because the

pain, the fear, you know, he's gone, but he he said, but he thought when was still in that other place, my brother, my mom, my papa, no, I

don't cause to this pain, if I'm still no, no, no. But I was me wanted to say, but then I was I thought I thought I was He had tranquillity

He had PAS and tranquillity but what me surprised was how was that transition and how he how he how if you

were all those these sensations on the life of this life and you start to and he he reversed

this life and it's when I said I felt that PAS when I went in my experience

when I had, between 9 and 10 years, we went to a a river that's coming to Oaxaca. Recurrected that was a Semana Santa. I was, I was, I was to tell my story.

I said, it was a river that not a real where they were tourists, because apart are the balnearios, where there were

a person, but as a Semana Santa, they were they're full of people. Then me

said one a man, there's a lot of a lot of people. It's a

gruelo. Yes. And I remember that when we came my mom and my

papa and say there were parts of the river where it

was a water turvia and me they said to you know there

you don't you because it's that's very oh

I'm that my Abolita in that when I said to my mom no,

go on the year of my Santa is in creed you know there's that you have to

those days are in those days or feches of respect to say exactly exactly

well the family was in buggia because so are vacations

and we we're we're we're we're we're playing with a

pelota was my brother I'm my brother Pee primos

and some primas and I remember that we

volleyball, and me they're in a pelotazzo, and no I'll get to grab, and so it's a ball. Amigo, so, me my, my thinking, my, my focus, was, oh, and the pillow's, oh, and the pedal to get to the corinette. I was, Paco, to

see the ball. What my mom me said, literally, as well, he said, was, you know, and it's out of the other. It's been free the own, man, I mean, so, so, it's me olded what they said, and I was going to, and I was First, I go

to touch the earth and I'm I'm in a a fos I'm a fos I'm a fos.

I know in that then I'm going to flotarer and I said I'm there's a so I'm kept quiet and

I'm trying to try to try to move me and you I'll go but it's a very rare and that

I said I don't know from my experience if I if I was kept a quieto

I sentia how me hanged I'm and that me spant much And I said,

I mean, the alberka no so I'm going to that's going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm

to be a preoccupy because I had some visors of those that you get a part of the

nose, and it was where I'm going to get a little a little the

because I said, I don't go to I'm so I'm quite to this

thing or something or like me you get, me unde but so a

velocity like me they're and it where I just I perthed all the

pass and the corduera and I'm to letear and letear and I'm and I'm and I remember

that some my primas they're doing because he's just he's just he's not I'm not

I'm I'm trying and my man who he was the he started but to grittar

and to cry to and I remember that when my mom see my my brother

that he was so he's in serious my mom said he's

he's oh and and it's when they're For me, but I was so I didn't even

know I'd have done that I was super far far and I remember that in one of those people I was out of

the boca because I don't put it by the nose I had the and me he would be to undir

and only I'd to get a little the boca and me got to I'm doing

in that I'm doing in this game I'm sorry you're you're you're

comprehensible and And I remember that, I know, I mean, I mean, I know, I mean, I mean, I said, yeah, manotea I, but yeah no, I, yeah, no, I can't get to the surface. Yeah, no, yeah, I was, I was too scared, I remember that my mind in this, in that moment, I thought, to keep, I'm going to mourn. But, it was so gansed that yeah no, I had no, I didn't want to continue luching.

Recurrected that's still the surface in the sun, but it was very

very so, like I was like I was like I went to when I

started my body, sent me peace. And when this me was

what I said in serious I felt the fear so

many things were the desperation the in that moment like

something, that I didn't need to I need to feel like. Sentit peace, sent me

tranquillity and me started a dream. So, a dream like, imagineate

that you have been when you have done a work and so you're

and so you're like, so like that you start, you know, you're

I'm not I'm not to be to be just not not

necessary for me. No sentia fear, no I And I remember that

I started to look at the eyes and I'm feeling very. In that moment

was when two people got to where I'm to get that this me does a much

a rice to tell me and the other me agar of the shor

and the pass me said a carson chino because me

he went to and I'm They got but all the sensation that

I was feeling beautiful all the peace, all the tranquillity was and

again again again the desperation regressor the necessity to feel

the need the the fear and it was when I actually

were two people because the first was my my first was you know

a moment where you were a moment where you were you Like, like,

you and you started to manoteer. And that's I said, I'll be, I mean,

tell you, I'm, tell you, let's, tell you, you know, when we were in,

your body was floho. Floho. When we started when we went to

out, when we started to react to reaction very brusco and me was getting you with you and it

was that person. And when I'm going to I don't tell this to Felipe

and me and he said brother you know, you're you're

you're you're you're you're not you're not you're

not you're not you these human you you

don't you you're you you're prepared to get

to mental you you you And I'm so, what?

I'm I'm I'm I'm I remember that when I go to the

end of the guy, thanks of that you have to get the the nose

no respirate to so not he didn't water

to your and no I don't I don't

I don't I don't but I I'm I'm

I felt I'm and when Felipe me I said,

it's that I know the same I'm like the same I'm when they're when they're

to get to get to get the water I'm going so I'm so I'm so I'm like my

my my body started to react and it and it's impressive how

how dole to to get to the life dole to to the

and that and that so a sometimes me has made to think because

I've put to to think in this many times and I think

it's it's not that the people in the reincarnation when a baby

nace and you know like a like a so how do it to dole

to the life I don't think are very very vagus

but I've got to think how do it and the way

and in the case of Felipe the person that was

sequester and And so, Paco, now I've encountered a people. Every every

I'm, I'm going about this thing, that person took a experience about the

death. I'm going to to tell to you, without to have what you've lived.

And so he's toped with people so. I'm that's a tremendous.

And he did a change very very spiritual, he knows much

the theme of spirits, entities, a person that's a person And it's curious

because the characteristic collier that I have that I don't I try go, he has he had an equal. And when

he said, look, we try we have the two of the same collar. And you know what

is what that means? For me the significated of that collar is the triangle and

the quadado that I always trygo is or for me

demuester the perfection of the universe the geometry of

the universe. And he said, the real real significate is a collier is the union of the body and the

spirit. How is it? For that the triangle, enter in the quadrado, and then it's always

and it's symbolizes. And I do that sense. Now for to you have changed. I said,

wow. And that collier I've been using when I did the podcast. And has

been the experience is that has marked Marked Marked something something

I'm quite and with this I'd like to conclude I'm

sure I'm clear if there is a after the death for me after

to be there if there is a there's a no see if it's a

no I'm no I'm but there there is a place

where no there there there there a place where now I understand

why the people that has communicated with the people the people

the message is here I'm I'm I'm very is

that that's that what what you think it's

it's an experience very very change you can't

completely the life in the sense of that in the place

in a place but know that's not your moment and

the and the regress practically to the life then it

can be and he he he he more more

abirto accept to other other possibilities of after

there there there something else. So is, my this is a thing,

I'm sure that much people who have experimented this and that's listening this, I'm 100

100% sure, 1,000 sure that they're going to feel identified, identifications.

For favor, let me know me in the comments. Now, so I want

to learn those because I want to know how have been this type of

experiences near to the life by the family extra normal how you

how you have passed you my very well I'm I'm that your

public you have the and that you support with

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