EXTRA ANORMAL - Experiencias Paranormales en Hospitales | FT: Dres. Karla Demeneghi y El Doc

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

Familia nos enorgullece llegar al capítulo 200 de este gran proyecto llamado Extra Anormal Podcast, y que mejor manera de celebrarlo con ustedes, hoy les traemos a unos invitados muy queridos por toda la comunidad, Dra Karla Demeneghi y El Doc juntos en un especial que sin duda nos dejarán con los pelos de punta, ellos nos comparten sus experiencias dentro de sus consultorios y hospitales donde han trabajado, no pierdas el más mínimo detalle de cada historia, y recuerda que me caen mejor aquellos que se quedan hasta el final. Gracias a todos por ser parte de esta gran Familia los TQM  

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despite of the quantity of studies. For example, in my

case personal, if I have that ability to determine to be to be a job

of work and it is a entity that's in the person

from my point of is a point to say to say

to the patient Well, so if was passing

for the pass the everything gets with a patient with

the patient to talk to and that the patient he starts to that he

he's very well but, but that for favor let go yeah, that the

person that's that's that's because he he's going to and

he can't do that because he gets because he he says oh, doctor,

no, so that that's that's a lot of this when they're that

entity, if we're we can't say to the person, it's because the

patient then no tard in to pass a better

life. The murder is, he he consider so the

person a entity that he is and he he he

said they were like at the night he

he said he says a woman but involved

in a manto and he didn't five minutes

when started to son the alarms and And practically

felled almost three patients at the same Wow. Yeah I've seen

I've seen I'm and I think you you know in person no I know

I know we know we we didn't say us and say to say your

companion that I'm asked three times today to to

see yeah yeah I'm just three days during the

podcast, because I'm concentrated watching you and I'm going to and I'm very zeal

and it's very celos. How how, people, be welcome to a episode more

of podcast Extra Anormal. My name is Paco Arias and I'm very happy to be

here with all of you this episode this occasion is very special I know but really it is

because there are two persons that apart to be good friends two

people and wehole we're we're we're doing a two people

in the same industry two people that I know you know

you have seen in the previous and I am so I

am here in a episode for all you the

doc Carla how are you don't thank those

don't thank much very very honrada we made

we rapid, no? Very my father. Really, it was a connection, just an

instantia, for so to say, I'm going. I'm content because, well, the two

are doctors, are medical, they're this ashercement with the industry, not, of the

health of here of Mexico, and I have been with each one of you're

in individual and have been experience that quite that,

that more A lot of experience or stories are anecdotas are vivences,

that I think a more of a person if they're a good sure. Before to start,

for the people who are you know, exceptuando the doc that no manage

to do your social, for favor? Generally, what most use is

Instagram at Karla Demenegi and the rest of the rest of the

rest of the right right they're abandoned. So for Instagram

me can find Perfect. Very thank you. Okay, thank you. Okay. I'll be

I can't ask what has been and that the other occasion? For my part, Adelante. What has been doing?

Well, the people, no, know, so, about, approximately and I see that

certain things and I've a lot of things in the things in the many things, that, that no

permit to focus me about a one one question, but let us what was

what was what was something. Something is that both confirmed that they

did and the people know, not are the first of there have been

a person in person out of cameras and there have been in quite victims of

people of the people of the people, people that are in this

project that have had been experiences quite raras. The reality is that me has succeeded

nothing. For that my alert still not is so that's so much people have said that

are things quite, quite raras here. So, before, also, that you

say, what has said, people, people that are being the chapter,

I want to please these first moments where the chapter initial

for you subscribe, we're on Spotify, is the button to see. You're

subscribe us comment and now so after after you do you tell us what you

know. Between us over from the first moment in the he was evident

the shock of energies no no? no don't see this

this side from yeah and yeah and I at final

of I've had seen in some in a video in a

actually for him was that I know so

I'm so it was it's incredible that a doctor is talking

of these things. Because I said, I mean it's a me and I'm

going to be there and I'm going to be a few years yeah. And the fact of to know it

and feel the energy, of the actually we we were about we and we know we

we're doing how the patients being in cargated of what things are that are

the things are the they're and then I think the two we've got

the we're the not necessarily to press, simply for the fact of yeah,

for favor, let me to feel your energy. Because it's that we're not, it's that

so we're so at the moment in the moment in the moment in that's in the in the way

there's there are there but not it's because it's energy contrary,

there there are toques? Do you do you? There's there to talkes.

The fact, what I'm a doctorer was that a energy flowed on not

they're not they're and in this part of you can you can't

that energy chocating at the time. I would call it energy complementaria

because I don't you feel to me and not I think you

you know we're repelated from the first moment. Yes I've been

a shock when when when when someone says that you call when you

did you not just no and not more I just did and see very

very So, the first pisada was like, no, I don't see if you've seen, no, of a sudden those times in those that the first got of water expand, so it's felt for me. Like a wonder?

Like a wonder. Okay. The truth is that I'm happy because you know, in this industry that's a 100% in the science, there are many people that are capable of

believe in what no in the supernatural or in the paranormal. man. And from the moment that I knew to Doc, me sent me very entusiasmed, not only only for the quality of stories

that he brought to the person, but for the quality of person that is. And, and always I've said, the doc is a person that no has no interest.

The fact, the dog, he said, I said, I've got to a red social, even with the person or the

person who represents if he doesn't so he doesn't. So, so respect, but me they're attention

that interest that you know that's in a principle to

give to this information that is not accepted for the audience

because you have talked many times the thing paranormal

we love much and attract much but but

not so only the people that have this

experience or this experience are are capable to

create. And for that I don't I'm because really I don't

believe until that I know but today I'm with two

people professional in the area of the health that I am

to make impact with these experiences that you have

that and that had done and that again again

again again again who you want to start with

that, as I always I've said, we don't come to convince to nobody. That's not our

work. We've been to give and show some and show some experiences, some experiences, some

experiences that we've been, so that the people go, enterandos of these

things, of that exist, and to enter in a position that would

be a situation, not is something that is a fomentars. And

also we we're going to say that we have the absolute. Practically you you have done to be

divulgators of information. So, today, as I'm commented earlier there's there are

experiences that are very credible, others that are not credible. But I

think that those experiences that are in an hospital in a center medical,

I think are the most get to calabra to the audience

because all in some moment or have been there or have been a family there.

So, as I would like to us talk about some experience that maybe

not directly you know you have you know, or maybe so, but that

you have you know of a little or something or something that's that's

there there well I can start with a relato that me

gave a am Normally I almost I don't see patients pediatric of the

contrary I evito those situations and I've told some anecdotes that I've talked with patients pediatricos

that not are conventional to the medicine and this doctora what she

was that she had a patient like of an eight or nine years

that was that's with a birth from so the ultimate intervention

suffered a paro-cardi-respiratory clinically was dead about five minutes in what they were in the

manoeuvres compressions thoracicas adrenalina well all the treatment that's

in this type of situations unfortunately the chico he got regress

practically to the life because the plan completely flat. The line

isoelectric we're talking that was clinically died. For five minutes.

Recordem that a part of the eight or nine minutes the body the body,

the the brain and in a little if in a case of that it does it

probably a kind of those kids can get to get to a certain

of a certain to some way now it is viable. Some type

of derrame? No, The derrame would The problem is the problem are the problem are the because there areas

because there areas of the cerebrose where there's hypoxemia so no there's and the oxygen and the oxygen and the glucose

so the sugar so are the those are the main, then so it's the part motorer then you know will be

going to be going to be the language not going to talk about and so we could be we can't

we can't be able to the after the eight minutes there are certain linements

not we're going to enter in the Guas American of Pediatria but we can

talk that after after 15 minutes for example of a RCP of high

quality yeah no is viable. Okay in this case were five minutes

exactly unfortunately the the man responded well the

treatment and he turned the surgery apparently all

all all well and this doctor me relata

that she was she was she was she was she

was the responsible of the case. And she was talking with the little bit of five days that were in

revisar if there was damage cerebral. Unfortunately, it was evolutioning very well, until that came to get a point where was relatively to give the altar. But this doctor was, agarro with that kid, because she was

a surrogue, there was, like two months, that she was a day, day, and, he was encarrague, diarue, diaries. She was she was, she was, she was pegadita to the man

for almost 15 days. Okay. And she relata that the

little he told that he was that he was practically

in the operation he was he was and he

could see exactly all what he could and a

what I want to say someone he can be like a

not don't say they're in a thing they

because the kid He said, he said, he said, he said to the pediatrist that I was out of the quarter where I had, of the chirofan. So, it was doble. He desoblo, and

it was overest, because he was looking to her mom. And he said that he saw her mom in the room and he wanted to cariciar to his mom, but when he, he was acaricea,

he was, and to give him a little more of panic to the doctor, he told that he was to play with a little bit of pediatric. In those five minutes

in that hospital there's a, like a legend that count in the infermenas that there's a little bit more than the pediatra that view and he hugged with that but in a moment he says that it's very characteristic

of the SM the experiences that's near to the murder where the people they're doing that despondiment physical and can't

know of what occur to their around and get to a point where are like transported

to the famous tunnel of the where they the light at the the tunnel the light

at the the tunnel or there even who are even who most characteristic

of this is that normally always are these people that have these

situations that can observe familiar that you know they're not

they're going to the child he said, because she he was a little bit of three years of

a year, and the abelita was the she was the she was she didn't go to

advance, but the little that the fear that he did when he did when he

he started to go to his mom when he was when he was when he was he said

he was he said he was very feeling that he was very very tranquil

and that his abelita no she went because maybe in that moment

his abelita he was not her moment. It was not her time. And yeah

was that the child seemed that like if he had put up he went to he

he went to his and that he said, and that was the pediatra and a

pediatra well, well obviously when they they're a relato

so you don't believe to do you don't but there was a

detail that when she me know he said I had to confirm if that's

the little said that when he said when he's to get to put out of

the caras of the area of pediatria and well obviously

the doctor said what is and is we're just we're we're we're just

we're behind the camera of where I where I don't I'm

are like, you know, cams contiguous and they're in the part of the part of the back

to connect with another camera of the other patient. Logically, he not didn't know to know

because he was not even he went to a surgery and he was out of that came out of

and was the doctor to and effectively I'm sure there's there many there's there's a

yeah? Yeah, here here there's here there's there many questions that

call me attention of this type of experiences that are that's

that the number one I'm I'm I'm talk about with you

the evidence that I know I can't to teach I'm

the little the the because pediatria is a well

yeah a area you know you know the energy

of a thing I've said is much more more

than other other other other and It's always a part of this

essence is a place in this place to be in the place in the world more

tranquil, well, as all seeing things coloridas, images, juggetes, I think

that's one of the other of the places more the hospital pediatria. Number two,

the people who have died who have been more these lapses so

I've heard and I And I want to comment it so rapidissimo, of a phenomenon that is generated in the Cerebr, no I have the name, I know that there

are there, where there are experts that maybe they know, I don't know. Where the Cerebr begins to generate images and vivences in basis to your creencia

and is when the people say that in those lapses when they were Muartos. Viered a Jesus. Viered a God. A Jeobah. Viered to any other God or Deidat. And they're regressan with this message. No, there are cases, even of people, young, that say, have been in the

Mimphirno, and they've been in the same inferno. And they were how demonies attack-and-and-a-dain-harmes and they'd bea in the suffering. No? So, they're about in many things. Verdardarmingly is that, as you you say, Doc, it's very probably that someone

to create this type of experiences. But when there's a variable that incaja

with the reality, there is where you say, what you say, because

it's how it's because a real that's a

little has a extra. I want to I think this is the

moment where I can be to be more at final. Because there's a story that

not is a story. Probably I have the authorization of this, but no I don't have the authorization to show the photo.

So if I'm a photo, I'm going to censor. That's a little bit to be able to talk.

For that I want to let me to get to the final. Carla. I have one that

I've got to live. Okay. That I've got to live of how time

we've got to live it's a time it's a wow freshesite you know

you know you know I'm I'm asked for my mom yeah I'm

I'm talked about that you know and we about about a yeah

well so all know at these my mom and if no

in some in some moment they're in a video of pack

it's is the top one is the is the video more

viral that I think I have. And she He goes and he said, I'm going to go to go. Because I'm going to go to start

in the second place. If you were my mom has a vibra very strong, but very chid. Very,

very good. The fact to robes the whole of the audience. It's very angelical. Do you

D'Neal Felice, that all all they say to tell you to do you. Feliche. So,

so for those who want to see the episode is the top one. Vyance to the videos most

best. It's the number one. We have the second part with her also. No, no, I don't record is that, but it's in the most virals.

Wow. But, pardon. Adelante. Well, no, no, don't you don't care. Well, look, have your house in Tampico? Thanks. Has, approximately a month, me scribe my mom. Yeah, I know that when my

mom me scribe, something my mom, never, never me scribe. For people not know what, my mama, I don't be apegated, we know, but our language of love, no is to write us all the days. It's, of when, but

that for me means Iha I'm I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm

I'm I'm sure I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm apart with the

sensibility that I'm I'm I'm saying I'm I'm going to listen the telephone

contested the messages and me says is that your abwe

is that so in terms medical my my abe my abe

was my had a had a had a quadro confusion agud

She, yeah She's with an Ibu and then then she became a sepsis

urinaria then so you know evolutioned well my mom my mom me

says that's what I was going to but they have to get to get

to get to so that's yeah right because if not

they they're to the pronostico no is favorable

diabetic hypertensa not not yet still still but, but it's

a nothing. I'm my mom very very much I'm generally

not I'm not quite to come in a day to another because I'm my agenda, because I

have got things to do that my urgency spiritual to start with my

mom that I did I go and so I'm I'm going.

She's they've they've got to hospitalization for actually, and

they're they Well, no, very bad prognostic. I said, for favor, need to sign vitales,

I need a note, I, I need, I need, I need, I need, I'm doing, I'm making everything.

When I leo the note, well, if it's confirm to what I suspect about, I go,

I'm very bad. A person like, yeah no would be more, I don't,

so, the fact, more of eight hours, yeah, if they were repusions, and one person,

yeah, with a certain of so that's because you're to discompensar more and

you're a non-sufficiency cardiac apart. So it was a case complicated and he had to

a internist and it was a forceos. No, internista they're for people for this

for here this is about this Cosa Malapa no? Famosissimo the hospital of Kosa Malopan.

Famosissimo. Famosissimo. Well, then I'm to talk this day. I'm right to talk about

I'm in live. Yeah, for that time after that after the insistences that

I said to my mom because I had visions where I was my abelita plus more yeah. He said

Mami, internalal because because that's going to put to better she better not

can't be there. The worst is visit to San Pedro yeah and he

and he did you what you don't me because my mom yeah

had been to have had been to have this idea irrational of it no no

is that it's that is that is that so because it's Pani, no-se-k, my mom,

is that mal. Leverettel. Enterna, I go, I tell you, I'll go, I'll go, I'll re-resteen a little

to do the context. I go to Tampico, I took a bus to, I, acosomolo to pan, and I

go to get me see, let me see me see me ever, no me matter who is there if they're

going to be if they're a need, have a necessity impressionant to get. A day before that I

had to geta, she continued with the quadro confusional Fiebres of 40 I mean, I was deteriorating Sure

No, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm a costada Only take a Respiro Sentie very Pesat

Mase where she was Where she was Acostated In her Cama I wasnti I'm

I'm I'm I'm There was there was a back There was there was

There was I was I was there And I I came with my abou I took

the hand and I said you're you're going to be but calmate because

yeah I've been to be my abel and he had started

to have incoherences and I've started to be so

I just I'm so what you what you was what

is a moment is because because since the moment in the

I said yeah Yeah, that's right. Yeah, lucidus terminal, and voila, you go to the patient, so, no,

I'm not, I'm, I'm of fear, I feel horrible, but I said, me dole in the two, and me dole much more my mom, because I know

that is the person that will be more affected. So, so, before, so I'm put to meditate,

much so, so fond, profound, profound, I did a rosario very very for the petitions

Firtes, Virgin de satanudos. I put in oration, me centred, I gave like very zen. In fact, anteriorly in many of your videos

me comment about things like the doctor, no, she's got a little movement. I'm just

in peace. I see the Rosario, me calmed, I, came with her, I took the hand,

I'm, I'm a certain way, we're connect us like if we're just a

one single thing. And I think I'm going to be good. No, you're going

to be the miracle. Obviously the hospital did a great work. I appreciate

much to the personnel of the health the medical so they brought

to be great. But at the other day my awa was to do that.

Wow. So, he was to nobody I couldn't because

I saw the the I don't let me do a good pro-no. I said my mom. I'm very crudal when I'm saying the good prognostic. From the moment in the way he started to have, this confusion, I'm going to have melina, that's, I mean, he's, he's got a

a drug digestive, mal-pronostic, for where you seeas. So, no, no, so no, it doesn't paint well, at least I, had much, the trauma, who guys have seen, even the chapter where I've been, of my other way, that yeah, in peace, descance. No, I could

despeed to her. So, for me, it was a going to be a little,

I'm not able to get to get to be my abo. I'm here.

I'm to do all this. It's goes to get to get a house,

but that's surprise, that when we got to the house, and the

house was a different. I'm I'm still, because still

still, but yeah not. Yeah, yeah, it's, and no.

In the Quarto, where my mom is with her, where she has commented my mom in some time, that she has

seen that they've done. Well, I have a tia that has much perception of

these things. How can explain? No, we can't not the same way, but she

see. So, I was on the side of the camera where is my abelita

and said that he started clearly how they did this. And he He started, to go up to

and golepear. When they took to that form, she said that she said, not fear, not much

courage, and he started to start with her man. No, it was not, but when my

abe despirta, he starts about things raras. He starts like if he was

to be a something that and my abue is good. Yeah no has sepsis,

that the sepsis is a condition that is a hallucinar. Because, literally, we're

that there's bacteria in the blood. So it's a conflict there. It's another

on. But, so, are, so, are things that have to pass.

She has been there never, it's a lucid, and I just,

and I'm kept doing. Ayer we went to to the arroyo, we don't the

water for here. So, we've went to the thing, and I

have seen these sensations, like, that I'm to be a a duend I'm a

I'm a I'm a okay, that's another thing that's you're going to do you know no no

I'm not it's that you don't know it's I'm able so I'm so we're so we

there to be to the rio that for sure I don't I'm going to get to get to and she

she's no no no is that we're going because yeah is the night I'm

I'm talking that it's she's all all all too dark Let me. Let's just

of the night Like if she's in the night, like she She's Like, the dweens are elemental

At the end of So, I'm in my rollo So I was You can say Yeah, I'm I was doing I'm in the

mountain, like Mowgli And I And I'm a an arbor that grew in the middle of the

And effectively there was And I said to my Irman And he There, there is a

duend Voltea my my sister I'm irised all the people of the group

no no no you're like no no I'm like I'm gonna I prefer to ignore it not so

I'm not so but no I'm I don't so quite to come let us

let us let me yeah I've seen yeah I'm so I'm so I'm

yeah she's there yeah he's yeah I'm I'm not I'm

I'm I'm I'm but I definitely the vibed of she back

much okay There are muchissimo. Wow. Yeah. There are questions where, well, medically, no, there's an explanation for a certain type of situations. I want to ask a question that in your moment,

I've been talked to that with you. I don't remember to have to talk to that time. You're that really, well, we're, something additional to any person normal, a perception of the reality different, different, the rest of

persons medical and doctors, what happens when gets a consultorio, that I

imagine that should be very common, persons who are working medical

for problems of health and discover that what they don't have nothing

with a problem, if it has been with the called brujeria. Persons

that are people who have those are in-terrados, persons that they're going people who

have been a person who is a classic that's a that's what how reaction how they're with these

situations? It's something that we talked about the doctor and I, he percibi to me

very open to that is, so very very easy to that I'm really the thing, the

really is that he has a reason. In a principle when they were

remontando at the internaut. A me infirmable this. I mean, I'm in some occasions

me arastrava to my house, the incubo, all of this. Yeah, that you've that's

experience with a con, well, it's, yeah, no, it's been

back to God, but retomando this, right, standing in a consultorio,

standing a consultorio, two consultorios all the day I'm practically so, then there's no way that

can be able to when the patient you can't, you see, the vibra, the air change. The density

of the air is distinct. I mean, call us people if want to be exactly

like what think they're really to who I appreciate but to people think that I'm like I'm

I'm a message and God and God bless but when when a

patient with a car that a person you feel you

how there something there something it's like a I don't

say it's like it's like I don't know, it's a pesadess and you know that that patient

comes here but not they're in for casualities not came for casuality or so the vibra

our our own so is so so bad but it's a not a

primitiva because one does what you will help but it's like a

kind of a natural yeah I get patients

not not I don't specific in one because I

know one that I know that I enter the consultorio and me he kept

being so I'm obviously always always I'm always always everything I'm pastmada

I don't see a difference of the doc but I can't feel much

so I'm a person very sensible get to the person and she and he starts

I don't say I'm able nothing simply I'm in the in

or that I'm I'm I'm to to hear hear all what

I said all the good to first I'm I'm

to care to ask and the person is a kind of in trance I

no me could answer nothing he got paralyzed

and I I'm I I I and I

talk to this part of the coo and

you will be you be able but yeah ale

from that person. No he knew in my life I've been I'm not

idea of because I'm saying that's like something is like something

that's like you're going to don't you don't you don't

a turund with alcohol she I was I pass for the

back like like like I'm like I'm try

I'm I'm It was And I don't I said, you're working, and nothing of that.

Because a science a certain, I don't say, I don't you know I'm a drugsy,

but if you can't say, you're doing the energy. Okay. They're working. But you're

going to be a protection that if you you have a don and you know, that I'm to say a

and here I want to we're going to talk to this. All the people are We have the capacity

of that this is possible. All we can transmit energy positive to the people. Because at final

of the time we're always. So, well. When you are bad, your entorn

is a good. No, there's a way to be your entom there's a thing, because atraz,

or so it's more than the things are white and say, vibra, something. But is

a certain has something has to have to have to have to have to have to

have to not, daren'ts to negar me to be in the traffic it's like after the

chockes. All the somemaphos in rojo all the percances you get more than

you're going to get to you're going and you see the and you see you when you

when you you can okay probably probably I'm probably I'm

too but no no I'm going to have to get to get to

this time so I'm trying to this person what will get in your moment will get

not be going to be able to do you don't let me need and we and it's

and it went and the other day and he said doctora me

I know me I know some I'm I'm very very thank you

I'm absolutely nothing nothing those I want much to all, to all

those I want to be in this consultorio, that I've felt so well received by the personnel of the

work, there's people very little. But if I'm going to tell that this person was,

we did, we did we that we not was a job, simply it was like a palmadita

of the support. To me, three days after, it's been my title in the

case, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, Of

actually, I'm the consultorio with a doctorate and I said,

Doctora my title and I'm quite in the case. What?

Yes. And like at the four days, doctora, she me came to

my title and I'm parted in the head the other doctor. Jolet. Then

what I did I said, I need, I need I need another other other way.

I'm I don't I don't practically even, although not it to get

the rosary and I I started faciently to do it, but I'm always present to the orations in my head.

So, I'm to rester well, I went, I went to consultory, and I'm to feel like

to get dormied, sat down, I don't have energy to do absolutely of nothing, because that

part, I'm able drener. If I'm could be drenate. And is that I,

here's what other occasions we've mentioned that, it's sound feo, but occupant

our person like a balled of a basura where a person discargarate all the

negative so you go to get with all the negativity with all the

all the that that's that's that's that well here

I'm I'm to for the people that people that

generally the 99% of the cases when aced

a medical has has has a cause you can

be viral bacterial or or so you can find an explanation

the cases that we're that that's one percent that no

there no an explanation a past of the question

and for example in my case personal if I have that

that to determine to to observe if has been a

work of work if it's a entity that in the

person and from my point of it's a

more difficult to say to the patient because the good to first to a patient if I you know

you know, you know, you know, you know, there's a entity that you know, apart of

that they're going to they're to believe that I'm going to put in doubt all

what I say. And my form of to those patients is first

to ask all those studies. Because when when they're when they're because they've

been with three, four doctors, or there's or there's a person that I recommend and what I always I need to those studies. If you don't

have the residence for the most of three months, the basic, a profile basic for that I can, with evidences,

for that you have some of what I'm basing. And yeah of there a point where it gets to get to be

in confidence to me. Inclusive me has passed to the recuester in the mesa of

Explorations, I go, before that they start to talk, I go, you know, you know, you're this

molestia here, you this sensation here, and the patient a little to start in confidence.

And it's where I say, you know, what I'm going to say to what I'm to say,

I need to have the mind about what I say. And it's when I'm I'm trying

to explain what is the real real motive. And in the sense in that it's that you

know, it's that it's famous no, but simply like she said a

sometimes the patients they're they're they're in a lot of some reason yeah

I don't well this this we're going to but there are sometimes

in that I've talked to confront those situations but that we

do we talk in other occasion okay there there there

there a story that I want in this moment in what you

I want to me counten some experience but that has

to be now with the paranormal in the hospital. I see there are

many. I'm going to a experience that is an experience in that that I'm

doing doing the day of I'm in going to tell you. Normally and I

know I'll make a opportunity to make an Instagram, no I'm

the majority of the people that reposte or that publish, if I contest messages,

if I do and I do like I'm like like I'm but when there's a hello, I'm fullan,

always they always they present because there because there people who are working on in the application there are

people who are people who are doing doing a lot of things big shied but regularly

I almost I don't reviso Instagram no no revis messages and that

occasion I was I'm coming and vibra my telephone and it curious because

I saw the message he opened and said the message Paco, I need to

your help, to my wife he's what he was going to what you

that's that I do it much because those who you know what my

my abel I said okay look right I'm okay

we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're

we're in this moment I'm a an actual like the of my

abuela, that the little he did a bad, that for a thing, that's what

normally is what normally is able to observe in this type of cases.

It gets the time, I was I was curiously in a hospital

and to enter to a consulta and in what I was my turn

Marko and she me and she is going this story has been

a 60 grados because it to say that his mom is taking care of his abuela,

that her abelita from the night of the morning, she was not a woman a man, a woman

without problems, without antecedents in good health, of good to first, as a

woman, I'm a infirm, in this case, she has to be to talk,

pired to the she, she only says, she with the says, no,

with the her head. Deja to eat and his body. Baja

of the amount of 40 kilos of the woman. It's between the 35 and

the 37 very very little little little and that that alerted

to the family the grado that the oldita she passed to live

with she she has the state of Puebla she She's in the city of Mexico, but regularly

to go to Puebla to see how is her mom and her abuela. She began to say that her mother, not only was her end upheld, her semblance changed much. Her mirada was a mirabye, not of

peace. It was a lookada retodora. She, of good as first, she sentia an energy different, and when she was to see her, she was laughing. But not her a risa, a

a smile. It was a rick a a rizement and she had to you. And of

good and first like that I'm in see. There a

occasion where she told that she got to do not in that house

and she was she began to and she and she and she

when she when she and she all and she has stust to be that

was in the feet of the camera in the but it was doing

with the same face, the same rostro changed, burlandos rindos

this started to get a little to the family, the grade of what she had was

a little more more in the sense of the area of the

health, in the theme spiritual they are of a family Christian

and they they were to be to to order to her

mom, and when she or would have the abelita she read. She started to read, she was to

burlary. And that's not so, he was to quadrars, and that's something that was,

that was still infirmando, still and still and fernando, and he started to

use a pañal. In one occasion, this is something very, very, very and they're

in the and they started, of first to burl. And his mom and he says, Mommy, what you pass? What you have

done? She had been to the banion. She was to have the house. She'll get to the baby. He says, Mammy, quitate the roba. She will

do a little things. Regressa. And the she was embarring to all the body and she was rying.

Borlandnose again of her with the body embarred. this is a torture

in a process very difficult because you know that not it's not a

thing that we're about a very very very very very I thought

I think something they're doing you're to do because really

the most that even really is that in arranches to ira

she she Delgated, mysteriously has much force, much force. Dentro of

this desperation familiar, they're to look between his documents. They knew

something that's the mom of the mother or she her vis-abuela

of our second was a mother, was and they said, no,

my oldita no, my A little bit He said that never practiced

My abolita never did nothing She said she She said

this but but at revisal the house of the

abuela discover that the abelita did magic black black

and and alta magic to people that that

does do a completely to because you know

we said to she I don't we don't know we're about a job

imposed and we're about a karma and we we're about a rebote maybe

and we talk about a consequence and she she said and me he said we're

we're saying she she did all this did all this this is a consequence

of what she did a discondid of all and I started to

talk with them because to to be to be an

arrepentiment genuine there's a repentiment and if no there is not there's

unfortunately and other thing is that I talked I about you for the age

the person has a but his body many many times what's the same

in my case of my family no soport those those

these sessions are so forth. It's a case that we're doing, we're doing doing, probably, if I'm done the authorization, put a photographia of the signora, it's very normal, but it's a case

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even if eradicate that situation that's a problem that's that's like you're

that's the only that's the only that's the only what you think is Karla I think what you

what you're what you're that's practically inert that's it's that it's

that we don't we don't understand because why they're we don't know

we don't we We want to farraar a idea that no comprehend us and as we can't we never we'll know

why it's because we're because we're we're we're to create the truth for create

or to create our own our own that's not not only in that sense of things we're all

we're we're going to get a little bit of the thing paranormal and

I'm going to enter in it. You, I'm I'm patients that many

get to my consulta because they're that I'm know, that's the doctor

that's because they're that's what you get looking the person

doctora let me I'm that I don't me have said I'm

never never never they're no, you know I'm know,

try's syndrome of a colon irritable that's caused for

cause for because the people listen to, see, to be,

you know, you know, you know, has a syndrome of color irritable? What do you think?

Sure. You're you? If I don't explain, as a medical what is what you're

going, it's logical that you get a on and you say, well, the doctor at the

doctorate, or the doctorate, but what's that's not don't have good pay to the

manhue or much sometimes yeah and they don't have been the

empathy. Our work as a doctor, much has to go to as to that,

as a person human. The human, since it's since that has been

years and millions and years, we're we're looking the why of our existence and

tell me why in the century we know we know we know we know where

we're there's that the big bank that the evolution of no-se but are

theories. No we have a base cemented in saying, this is

this is true, this, no is So, then we need that response. For that's that's the majority of the

people, a lot of think, ah, a my abolita, for example. I mean,

much respect, but to my abolita he passed this for this. But, and if no? And if no?

Sure. It's really, it's a possibility and the question is that if there's a

day of day of today, medically, not they've not. And that is a,

well, you know, you know, a characteristic very classic of people that are being brought,

posseid, the position demoniac. To me, what you mentioned more to a kind of

a kind of a species of position. Yes, sure, clear, and is that we're not,

and is that people are working with certain spirits, which are who are the majority

of the times, they're they're some of a don, and with that

and with that, and with that they're, they're a lot of things, that in your moment,

that's what I've said many times, it has to have a fact to pay. It's an interchamble

to the energy. We'll we'll, we're going to we're talking that's a time. You know,

you know, you can't do a change and it's the same in any in any, here,

here no I want to be a favor, but if you you're a God, it's because

you're disposed to sacrifice in something, if you, for example, you, God,

um, no see, God, give me, give me, give me, yeah no, okay, but I'm offering

something. So, and is that when one is that you need, they need to pay with intention.

And not I'm going not it's the same. I mean, we're doing because of no way

is the same but at the time you're going to you're going to buy something,

you're going to do you want to you're going to do you it's an exchange of energies

at final of the question Fugate, Karla, with the theme of the Spirits, yeah we've

talked about earlier in other podcasts. What can offer to be an human to a person that has

more time here in this country, that has power, that has over many things. It's

curious, not how there's people who say, and to see what I know,

I've known people that I'm know, I've I've been a pacto with a

demonio. See? With what? With belial? Ah, look. A-pok. A poco?

Yes, yes, yes. I mean, I sometimes I abstentioned to say commentaries because not

is the case of the podcast, but one knows that's that's that's

that's a devil to lucifer. Busken no. Buskin that someone

who want to know. It's a demon that is a human that's a

same Lucifer is a rebel or is one of the angels

cae a principate, a prince of the infirno, if any if it's even if it's

to get a angel, to the staria of the morning, how is going to be subject to

a man. It's to be a much, because there there's legions and legions. We're going

that I was I'm doing a time. To get you to a new a deidate very

you need to get first first the MENOS. Of course. Of course.

Of course. That's all about us I'll let's get the goal. If you know, because there's evidences very good. We've been

about how functions certain religions in Africa. And I'm going to explain here how it's so quickly because I

know we're making a lot much. Possessions. Tudate. You've have seen how some

tribus have some Tampore's? I think you know that's you know that is you know know

why is? It's the manner in the vibration in the one of the sound the sound

consecutive was generating a frequency you know you're going to help to complementar because

are words very technical the human his frequency when is done and when

is different when we when we're in when we're doing frequency of repos

the son of rem how the son well the rem

or you're talking of the hondas the ones? It's about the hiresies. We're talking

when the tambour are five hertz, so approximately For example I'm going to try to try to

when it's the sound of the tambour is a one that is a lineal are very little

onas when the human or the person is despite, we're in activity our own

is so. When the people are listening that sound of the tambour,

our hondas are adapting to the sound of the sound of the and then after doing this

listening much the timor, our frequency begins to do this. And not only the frequency spiritual.

If you you can corroborate that you do you know, we said, this is that it's that

check a frequency cardiac of a person that we that we're that we're we're doing

some kind of and the frequency cardiac that's you're trying with the

minimum possible of energy because many many times the people say it's

that the people are why live many years no, there's no, there's that's that's

because I'm doing the thing paranormal but here they're they're doing

with the thing because really it's a change that at a

level physiological yeah a level mental and at level

physical then the wonder the wind the the end

so is when It comes, that we enter in a transymnotic, a state alterated of a conscience,

that is when the people can be in this famous plan astral, where they're connected with a deidad.

Me, it's a time, I'll say very ambiguantly because really has much time

that I studied. These people, those, I don't know how to call them,

chamanes, or bruchos, disculp, in my ignorance, do this to enter in an

environment spiritual, to ask a a deity. But here is the interesting. This person

the finality not is to get a to the other that he connecta, but that

that is connected with another deidad much more grand that is the that is the

desire. But that for our own humanity not we can't to

get a contact direct to him and it's a intermediary

these are in religions African and and is

when sound of tambour and some some of and some while there's a fulano that's

connecting to a level to see that's interesting and back the information of the new and

a form curious of and it'sel and back the message when he he got he received

the message of that by the other deidat and is when they're when they're

doing certain things. It's a thing interesting are

some much practices that not they're not They really are very celosos in certain practices.

Apart is proper of each tribe. Sure. Even the people that have created to documentar, a me passed with a sacerote

voodoo. I said, oh, yeah, I need, no, no, we can't get us out. Well, encapsulate in

spirits, we're in capsulamous those collections. We're not we're in frascos, in bottles,

so we're those who we're not, but so are things that don't, difficult to get

access to this. I'm I suppose that both, well, the three we've heard of Jacobo Grimberg. Yes. Maestraceo, no? How disappeared?

You think that's, I'm sure that's dead? No, no, no, no. Of course, I know. Transcendio. His name, well, a very,

we're going to do, we know, we've got, like, we, we've seen, we know, in archives of the CIA disclassificated. Yes.

I mean, you, you also, did? Yes, I see. It's, too, with him. I'm, but apart.

Yes, apart. You know how I did I get a Jacob Greenberg? How? If you had commented that

I have a problem that I'm a question I'm because I'm I'm going to quit the stigma and we're

we're not we're doing we're doing and we know to work with you know for people

not you know for people I don't know I'm just I'm trying to like in this and nothing is

casuality I'm I'm talking A Rytelch if you know exactly It's her brother.

His brother. So, I don't know. Well, medium-ormon. It's a medium-a-old. In fact, I think, no, that's apeggio-old. But, well, the point of this is, that I was looking, like, what-caro is the trauma bipolar?

I'm a doctor, yes. But one thing is, as, as, as, well, you know, you're going to pass this, but you, as well, what, chingas, I'm going to see,

how I'm going to over-givable, because neither I can, and I'm going to the people that I'm running. I'm trying to do all my past. So,

so I'm trying to other people to listen what's what's what's that's

the trauma polar and I'm going to a day that I'm and I'm encounter with

a teltch which has a monologo where about this about this about this

me name me Nenge and Mentegu and much of my friends me say

has been so it's like things that for much for much people don't

do you know I'm I'm I'm and I'm hear so

my way to make this way super intelligent. Sure. Super. I'm going

in investigation of his life and in an interview that they did he said, I'm going to talk about

about Jacob. And he said, my brother no murio, my brother transcended. Jacobo

is here. And all those who are doing to Jacob Greenberg and said I don't I can't

think that Jacobo Grimber see to my man. I don't know who was

in that totally. I've had seen because I had known the job

of Pachita earlier of a certain way I feel identified with Pachita because a través of we're in

our hands we're in our hands we're we have to help the patient that's in a certain way

never we're doing but it very related to a no so I'm I'm to end up

this and I'm to investigate Jacob Jacobo he did so many he used

a profundity Pachita because he also he was illus to say no to But, I mean, incredulo,

of saying, oh, what's, what's doing this woman? He's operating with a coiffing with a un-opted?

No, if was, if I was to make a man, he said, here, here, he was. He was, he was incredible.

His investigation of a week were almost two years. Exactly. Exactly. Where there are books,

where there vision extracular, the theory syntergic. Well, no, not parariams to talk

of him, but we're talking of a person that's did know of

how we're about the times of we're getting to the same to the

number of doing to get to your vibration more primitive, to your vibration

more because there were many times because there times. Because the human

doesn't get to get a sense is simple but we we're we're

we're doing this technology. The more technology we're having more we're

we we're and it's happening. Because there's now now going to desastres natural all this

is a consequence of that not there's there's a and of who is the natural and the naturalness?

And we we're part of that natural we don't know we know we're going to be to hear a

animal. Sure. Dece to a person and there are there's in the people

that are masones if not you know you know yourself no knowces nothing and if

If you don't you amas to you know you can't love to you know so much

you know and Jacob always you know the way it's always we're doing we're

we're to get into to find out but we're going to get a little a bit of

paranormal because hol yeah we're we're getting we're

we're we're on on the physical a me I'm

I'm much that I'm but but what we do

to do what we do now that what they're mentioning about the

of the Jacob Brinver and the access that he was the how

the a matry to the not used another no use another name the

the lapis the latis the latis exactly well record we're I'm going to yeah

it's you're I'm the reportage well the investigation that in that

in that community in an alco an animal. And remember what he said the Mr. Andres, that we've done to listen to the naturalness. And, tristently,

so, so, so, it's what that's a doubt I had I to, what really passed there, since no. So, from, I know, of, yeah, no, we know, it was, that

originally, that was the idea. That's the idea. That's the thing was going to give to where he took the photographia. That, even, we've coincided that that day, we've chosen

because the system meteorological had done that it was a day free, probability

of the probability of zero percent. And the much we were we're we're getting,

we're getting a nebulina that you not we could be more than to one or two meters

and then the and then he said he's that I don't be a risk to

get those there. Because because the the place the

place is Inclusive, what happened with your drone. Yes. There's... There I per die more than $20,000. And the

worst of all is that, those that have a drone know that has a system to have to know if it's a car.

Sure, his sensor. That's what I also, the sensor to say, when you're at a few

meters of to start chuking with something, to talk with that, and there simply no,

no, I didn't, even the other part of rar that I mentioned is that there's a repaldo of the last video that has to generate in the memory.

That's the response and that the last video where is what what was what was going to it, and many archives

not have. That's all I've got to a chapter you know you know you know what I'm

in context to the episode that was up in explorations extra normals when we went to

the dweens to dondes to dondes analco this passed something very rare.

We were in Saltillo and we're basing the memories to a computer a computer. It was

all correctly a Mac and then all know that's many times fail in this type

of computers. There were all the archives in a memory in a carpeta per don't

those we're we're to make the space and we we're we're

we're five or ten minutes and I'll open the Carpeta, where

were the archivos and the Carpetta was in the carpetta was my man when I

did get to see a well, I just got to vacue the information who moved and said

Cabrom we're we're we're I've got to do this video all the videos

here Cahor okay Ciarana no appagal the no see reinical

the Bacia the carpet we we a rato, me I'll go out

out of tranquillize and then when the first time they're in a other of the

video of the carpet and then they're and then they're and when a

archive you don't you make it's even you make the error of the

archive no the the archiv intact well well pass

in other minutes no pardon pass a day and yeah when

they they're going to start and carpet vacate and

so we're in a game very burlon of that they're not, edit it, no,

better, no, more, no. And they're getting little to little, archives. Those

archivos were back four times in different computers, and it was impossible. It's impossible.

It's impossible. It's, as, as how said the place, the place to protect of a certain

form, and the little that's, that's, that's, not is the 10% No,

it was a video for two hours. And you do you the interaction with one,

okay, the with the technology a distance you're just standing here in a studio so it's the

way to transcender of that's the type of energy no? Yeah, this so this

move to that form and pass many things more much people I see an exploration

of an hour 40 minimum was it's 18 minutes it was something

something that was something that's something that it's he did what he did what's

what's we're going to return to get to get to see more I'm going to

see what at first no I said of what we showed in that

my conclusion is that for me not are dondes no no no

and they they're they're they're they can't see I'm

right I'm okay and for example record what we said

the sir andres I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

think with the kind of it's a thing it's a thing that's no

for me don't doends I think these are I think I think

are I think are there the image I'm we've shown

we're we're we're yeah we're we're we're going to

let's No, no, no, don't doondes. These are these. Yes, exactly. Yeah, no, this is clear.

So, they're even even though They're playing. They're playing. They're doing. They're doing. They're doing it.

This is your area. Jamas they're going to never let's pass. Yeah. And if pass on that

you're not, and that that image was in the carrette of photos of the senior. Revisamos

your cellular. Revisamos. Yes, yes, I mean, yes, I I mean, so I,

I say, I do obitimately, I am skeptical. And I saw, you know, you know, you're just done with a lot of, I mean, really in this, the people

also think that I'm very credent of all. If you're not, you're a critic. Yes, I'm critical. And I'm, I'm, and I'm, I guess, see, and I'm,

he said, I'm doing his telephone, you know, he'll make the date, the carrette, I said, I mean, there's a way, of that could be

manipulated, no, no, no, no, no, no, are, they're, they're elemental. Yes, are elemental, and it's,

and it's, clear that that's that's that's it's it's

it's it's I'm, you know, now I'm the see that's I'm the

feel the love that they they're in the area it's so it is two

photos only one that's that the the next too

and many many people can say that might be a sort of that

that's not no no no no that's no no no that's it's it's

two photos that were taken where there movements and where there's and where

there's and the and the and the I'm even in the me

envied a photo where they appreciate some on the ruses in the laguna

was the audience they're they're they're they're they're they're

they're and I'm I'm I'm could be to do you probably but there

there's abeyentated with o'clock oh no I'm I'm this image

not for me For me, not is Pared Dole, there's a little bit more than but if it's clear. It would be clear. It would be a It's just.

It's that it's that they're in the water, they're in the busk is that they're it's that. It's that

roadiedissimo of this. You've heard of those interterrestres. Yes. Yes. It's that is that they're

you know you can't go to a place. There's there's people that I'm like I'm

like I'm all the world. You know you're going where there arbores, and to be you have to be permission.

Yes, I mentioned to Paco, when we we got to get us, we'd get permission, we'd, we'd give us offrendas. Yes, yes.

We'll see. We'll see what most respectuoso possible, and I think that for that's not bad with us Yes, because

there was a risk. Oh, yeah. The fact of to start coming down there and a balladero of

30, 40 meters, it was, the really was risko total. Inclusive, the idea original was

that the Mr. Andres would get to where he took that photo. But he was said,

these can't be you're in you're in we're in we're doing. Camines chiquitos.

Pereditas. Vereditas. They're right. You know, you know, of the, so, how are

conformated those are you, are very very delgated. They're like, they're coming

parts of a bird. You've seen that there are that there's that's going to that's what I'm

to tell to that I know he was he was he was to have an experience spiritual

and he was a mannantial of here of Tuxpec where you have a friend

he was with another person and they they said the children the children to these

those onos yeah and and they they were to get to

and they of those that they were from the and so how

they were they They're back into. No. It's dangerous. If you know, the type

with the guy with the guy with he was like well, it's right. And he said, and what is

and what is no. And there and so, he's, I think, eight. And,

and he said, metete to the water, we're going to get the two, see,

to see, the eyes, we're going to say, I'm going to talk in the stomach but

me said that's the that's the signal that that's to be to start.

He said, I'll say something I said I'm looking and I'm how it

the water how I saw my face my face my and I see how my

rose so I did form and I said yeah so and I began

and I started but what what me a so was

that I see where there there a ball of a

It's the size of an arbor. Robusto. He, me it describes like if were the body of this person of Solivan, Sullivan,

the, the of Monster Ink, something but black, that was in the arboles.

He said, I'm I'm still hallucinating. But I went to see to his friend

and he said, no, you're not you're doing, and he he said,

and he said, no I say, what is? What is? What's what?

in that direction there is a person that's the time of an tree behind of the

arbor you know you're not you're not you're he's the guardian that he's

I caused much fear because yeah if any someone to say that one

something is what your can generate and other I go something is that

you're doing something and he's he's he's he's

he's he's he's I'm the nature not we're we're talking we're

doing relaxate but he he's there he's he's I'm that part

of the history if you generate much impact because really

they exist at least for me respect for those that for us

for me personally I think in this type of that that abit

in these places right right when you mentioned that what

of visit well I can I can't I'm

what happened was in the month of April me it probably normally

I'm going to a friend and a sometimes we're going to get close of the

volcanoes there those volcanoes and a sometimes we're going to go to recor

those places to make senderism for so and we we know

we're a place that is like with vestigios archeological but

unfortunately has been used and my my friend I was with his novi

and we had we had made the automobile like a one that you'd like a

kilometer of distance so we we advanced we and we we pass

for that we we we we're we're we continue

our our record and when we we're we

we're we're we we before that it's because

we're going to go to get to even to come. You're

you're not the carionette and my friend said this,

well it's maybe or he was or some he

he didn't look because too none of those two are mecanic

he and simply he simply was he simply was he had to

have to talk to the security and then to

get to the grua in that's her novia go to

the cajuela and us say, okay, figgins that

he got this and what she he had a a kind of a kind of

quadrangular but like if it was a oldcagetit natural okay

and she he had brought because he was he was he he was

to use it was a Piedra Volcanic. Mal idea. And I, and I

could see that that's not something. And I said, no, you know, you know, says, you know, from where you gotrassed, or go, and throw it, but

get it, and he said, no, because me like, that's be beautiful, I can give a little, no, for

favor, do, ask me and my friend, that you know, because, why not you don't know,

because, you know, you know, No, it's that, well, I was when we came to regress, and me it was pretty and I was good.

Well, for not to do the large, we accompanied to leave her in what she was there

was there, and the, to the, to the, to the, we were, we went to that's,

we're going, when we got to, when we're getting, again, the carmnet like,

like if no would have had given nothing. And, practically he had to pay the

service of grue but we we're going to we're in the cabinete it. Menos

mal no no no not he costed the health or the

life to be and the good is that we said because in a

case that we have we've had that that could have

provoked a accident and is that basically the rule

one of any one of you never you never

you never you end with you're going to recorditos and things

of the actually there there's a story that I see that all know of a friend

that was with her and her and she went to a coveba where the cave

where the cave was unexplored but she was dying but she was dying medically

they're not doing not for she. No they're not they're

and in a desperation he discover because she she took that she to gore that

coveba only of the night and regress and leave this in

your place. And at back, just like you say, you know,

she was a new was very very close of the murder insupportable for so

I said the cost was monetary I mean nothing that not that not that

not that is of the health, there's we're talking of other things.

We're we're almost close of the the recta final,

something with what I see you guys want to do you want to do you know, I'm going to

just the I'm trying for a right. This me was a friend, I'm a

friend, of my best of my people because he's he's know,

my connection with all this and me say I want to you, because if

he's I'm not thinking that I'm not think I'm not what I'm what's

what happened? I thought I thought that I thought I was When I said, no, you know, you know, I saw what, I, the podcast,

I saw the podcast that you've got, with your friend, this, for sure, fan, too, I'm sorry, I'm, salo, salo, salo, I'm, how's the name?

O'Dniel. Oh, Niel. Salus, man. And me says, oh, yeah, is that you know, I don't create in nothing of this, until that's

when I was going, but I said, well, I said, well, I'm, I'm, I'm, so, I'm, I'm, like, so, until you talk

to live it, well, you, you know, MAs, no? Well, X, he was roting in that moment for the service of medicine

internal, like my Piyo. And you know in internas always happen things, no? So, pediatria

internal are super-cargated. But internal, there, but there, if you're rotating for an area that

is a nephrologia, you see, you see, patients that are of rinion, no? Yeah, they're going

for dialysis, cositas that, just that generally are terminales or that just you can do you

do you do it's like Paliative, Paliative, exactly. And in this occasion, they had a patient of a patient, you know,

talking to amodialysis, you know, you know, that's a patient that's a patient that's a that's a long, you know,

a person, he had a lot of, the assuads, yeah, I'm going to, assuads, uh, substances that

had to eliminate the rinion, yeah, I had been encephalopatia. So, yeah, I was to devacar,

yeah, yeah, yeah, but in this occasion, he said, there was a,

And then, she kept in the night. She, her responsibility was to care to care that area.

I go, because I have to do the visit of the patients, to be the costs, that's how

they're all the time, because, sometimes it's, there's got, and then the time you're and then the

pass of visit. And, but the fact, we, we're, we're not,

we're not, we're not we're doing to get to him, and so it's going to the passio,

like nothing, all all the all the person, he gets to get with the

patient to talk and that the patient he gets to talk that he can't but,

but that for favor to say to the that the woman that's to be

that he yeah, he's because he want to get to do that he's

he can't be able because he okay. So my my Well, always we look

the explanation, no, he's ervados asuados, this, no see, it's, I don't see,

something that's, something that's, I mean, but he he's said, yeah, with much

to ask to ask, to the patient, that's the person, the patient of the

cat, me's saying that I'm to say, I'm a, what I'm, what I'm, what we're

we're doing, because they're, because they're not they're like, with someone

that's can't support and just he was going to and he said

oh, doctor, no so I'm so that's much in this

situation and when when that then a so entity

if we we can say to say it's because the patient

then it's not time he he still doing

so he didn't various patients and they don't

don't don't don't not and he said that

the patient fallece. No, man, it's that's it is,

it's like the of the patient then the you know, you know, to

you're to think that's a person, no, it's a murder.

I'm I'm sure. But no, is that he's that he was, he said, he said,

he could you can't go to the, almost to the woman, no,

to the muchach. A man. She, she's a woman. Yeah. That if

can be because, is that it's that he can't be And you say, is that

is something Karla, I don't know. I was there only with with the patient what you can't say

that not that's true and more if the infirmary is it was a person.

It was the death. What do you do you think is duke? Well, in a certain

clinic no specifying where there there an infirmero that I

know I don't very present because he he says well

he He said that the He, he he, he he's a entity that he

he says and he he he said that when he was in an orario

corrried were like at the night he comment that he says a sombra a sombra

a sombra of a woman but involved in a manto black

and he he was I think in the area of Cye and he said he said he didn't

any five minutes when they were to sonar the alarms and practically they were almost three

patients at the same wow the the murder could be it's that it's

curious because when it's a normal they're they're they're but

because when they're when you they're to make in a phenomenon different

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Very much very grateful with you. Very good chemistry. Very, very good. Cabe

to resaltar to, I always want to do the friolita in the arroda. No, but the

really, this, yeah, I've seen, I've seen. And I think you do you know

you know you know. In person? No. I know I know I'm okay. So,

so, so, I, I, Someone could assure that I one day

I'm going to give a good because the chemistry and I'm I'm sure that we're

that part it's that it's not easy between us to find someone that you

and that you know but much thanks thank you for for opening

and for for most to show me part of your great

because the really is a person that has a person for the opportunity of this

that we've very good chemistry, we're really we're connecting very well we're we're saying

we're saying and say to your companion and I'm assotted three times today. To your

companyante? Yes, yeah me has to three times during the podcast because I'm

concentrated watching and I am very celos. Exactly. what is I don't have

problem It's a guardian for so I don't know human or so Human or no human No, yeah

Guayaquean no is Guayaquean He's not Guaquean He says It's his

Family Okay So protector Is my Abuel Your Abuel Wow You know

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I was I was I'm In the I So when you're when you're so you're

you're just you're just you're concentrated in the theme that we're in the time that's we're so you know

I'm sorry I'm like I don't know I don't know but I'm but I'm I think I'm I feel like

I'm a little little bit little bit for this but well family thanks to those who

are still again to know I'm the pasted pretty good very grateful with

that are in casitas, if you're in the work, if you're doing an activity,

you know a great a good a good for a good thing, many questions for all of you.

Passel a beautiful. Until the next. Bye.