EXTRA ANORMAL - Expulso Demonios y Armonizo Lugares Ft Octavio Elizondo

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

Cerramos nuestra Serie Octubre Siniestro con un invitado de lujo: Octavio Elizondo. En este impactante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Octavio nos comparte algunas de sus experiencias más sorprendentes y aterradoras en el mundo paranormal. Desde la expulsión de demonios hasta la armonización de lugares cargados de energía negativa, sus relatos te llevarán a lo más profundo de lo desconocido y te harán cuestionarte la realidad.

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We're asking that I don't know what they're They're asking But they were an door Enorme for the

maldade and the obscurity We did We did We did an arrest energetic

of an entity That the really I don't give your name right I don't

see if me do understand. We're going to get it. A demonio. And that

still arrested and that Felipe has these arrests with him. And we prefer we're

that's where there and there is where it has to be to be doing what they

do what they in this world. But it's a risk tremendous of the

this type of churches impone in his hands, they're and it's what we

about about the energy and the frequency vibratory. Exactly. The frequency vibrator

that doesn't support a someone that comes from the low astral. No, it's

so it has to get to do that. You know, is that we know that we're not

so men osos, we're so so much that's so much that's junta

three or two with that forces and they're going. How does the Bible? Where they're in

two or more? Exactly. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. How much.

What? What are you? To be a chapter more of a podcast Extra Anormal. My name is Pacuarias

and I'm very happy to be here with all you guys. The reality family the reality

is that we are we are we are we're of super mantels large.

We have a person that has made the grand honor to accompany us in this night,

to get from Guadalajara toxtepec to be to give us this interview that many,

many, many, were waiting. Today me complase present to Octavio Elisond.

How is Octavio? Paco, with the good to be here with you an honor

to be for me to be here in your podcast and I think we're to talk to

things very interesting and about that the people have many doubts. Exactly. Octavio, again,

much muchies the reality is that this episode will be very special, in a feature

very special because it's with the October Sinistro, family. Yeah, all of the

invitators that we've with much love, with much care for all you,

for that for that vivier in this month, the magic of this month that

is October, the best way in the way in that you know that you know to do you

know, before I would like for if there a person I'm sure that I'm sure that

people, but for if there a person that went to YouTube and who gave

for example in our minute and he said, who I'd like to

you presentes who you're to do you to do you do you do you do you

projects, for favor? For much my number is Octavio Lizondo. I'm

dedicated to the question of harmonization. I'm metaphysical. I'm I'm a energy

in the particular. 16 years and maybe, almost 17 years in a

program televisive of much arraigue at a level national and referent

of the phenomenon paranormal. projects new. Well, my channel of YouTube, I'm like Octavio Lizondo official

with a project new that we're doing Philippe Sendejas and your servidor. It's a project that's called

Invisibles with a great response of the people. We're very content. Look, we've been

less than a month, or a month, exactly. And the response of the people has been phenomenal.

We're trying with the the experience of many years of Philip

in the area of production and with the phenomenon that is

something that is a that a person us and it

does a result wonderful because the work we do

the work and with respect so those projects

a right but those that soon this summer

and the next we we're we have Here we leave

to all the family for after that's the great episode go and know you know the fabulous work that's

doing this is doing Felipe, that we'll send us a manned about. The truth is that are

the links directs for that they're going and know what they're doing. The reality

of my is that I want to say something I'm going to say abertamated to you

said a time that I'm I'm going to fane a little I'm I was

I'm the content that you did you We've known from from a young and the reality that

you're with us here is creme a grand honor. Muchism thanks.

And you're a person very transparent. Since you know, we've to talk in person,

you're the same person that we've been in the time for many years that we

have been in the person, the person, the person, the real that's, that's

me so me so we we're going to this chapter. Before

of the The people not is a very in the podcast some

elements that we have already we're now we know we're we're

a glass with water and we have been a little bit not not she

has been not we don't we're we're we're we're because it's

very important intention to whatever situation that do you

do you for me and to I'll repeat, a orgoy to be here to be here with you. Thank you.

And, so, there's a good vibra, there's to give to give a

negative, and that's and that's our body and our energy out of what you

have to say, this is protection, this is purification, and this is a change of a vibration.

For that I'd to tell you to let me try to put it and that the podcast

let's promise and it's has proven that all this will get to you. Okay, the protection will get a. Exactly.

Genial. Amigo, we're going to start from the commencing. The Genesis. Tras 17 years of

trajectory in the television, to be in contact with many people in the phenomenon paranormal.

Passed something? Yes. It has to pass something in front of us.

I was talking I with you and something and something that's there there. So, it's moved the

lampa solita. Yeah, I, see the change, I mean the light, a rojo.

A rojo. A rojo. Uh, I'm so I'm, so I'm, so I'm, so I'm

sooo. So, so it's something something. So, the phenomenon is present and vigente

in all all sides. Well, in what in what we see us, Yeah,

they're working in that. After of all this, Octavio, after to have

that that's a trajectory that's in contact with many of cases.

Placikinus how was that you started to enter to this way? What?

To get to enter to the know of the knowledge of the thing

spiritual? Firt I'm to know to be to be to honestly,

and a way very simple. I think all the people are a person in this

life, in this incarnation. Dedicarm to this was how to pass a process

of exodo. Look, I have the licensiatura in Mercadetectia, I studied in the

video, my life was by other other different. But,

but I from my a little, I sentia and I saw that he was a common

denominator of people, no he'd see. I'm consider a person

spiritual, and from a little and from a conscience possibly different to the

other of the other people, and that was accrecentating as conforme

was passing the time until the moment that the same life,

your ancestors, your protectors, or your maestors of life, that are in other plan of dimensional, they're saying, "'Ast here,

the life mundana of this role, of this work. So, as you know, we're going to get to

this, and I said, well, if I had this chamba and I had this, and of

and then you get us like in the limbo, because it's the only way, you can

enter, this, how it has to be, to be. So, it's so,

A fond, probably. Well, we'd say it, not a fund with a matter, no, no, but we're

to do this, no, manna, past, no, yeah. And for that could exist that

so, so that's so I began to this situation. I'm going to

a process complicated and difficult. This, the really is the first that I'm

I'm that I'm thank the people, a few minimisa and not

because we have to maximizing the question energetic of brugheria and all of those

situations. But if I took a time very complicated where I was

for a time too difficult and I tried I to find

answers to many things those which not I didn't

time to not extend me much saying I clear

not not saying me here to the brote eschisophrenic,

no much less, but me said, the signals are in the sky. And the signals are in the sky. And all the days, I'd goveteer. And it was incredible, because more of a week, or maybe 15 days, in the

ceiling, I'd cruces, cruces, of nubes. Not were parahedolias, because the paraidolias are other thing. So, I said, well, the signal is in the So I said, well, it's

well, it's a good, but what more has to do you, what more has to do? What more has to pass? A day. I remember a time.

I'm a person, an friend me, and me said, oh, yeah, you've been very deprimed, we're going to come something. No,

I'm kept here in my house. Orita, I go for you. Well, I'm going for you. Passed for me, I'm to go to car in my

house, in Guadahara, in Jalisco. I'm living for a zone that's called the

calm. So, we'll give, we're doing to your right, your right, and

I'm going to see that that need to start to get to see a thing, and a sphere,

with a second of the Well, I'm going to, and I said, my coate, and me says, you're going to the same than I, yes, it's going to go to go to some meters, I'd have to go, or more. In that moment, in that moment,

we're talking, the CIGA, we're going to, three, four meters to parol us and see her, and it's a sphere a back, pass, I calculate,

that a, 10 meters of us you, I'll explain, in a sphere with much fire but with the llamas

more little, some more great, and I can say without fear to think I'm that are

hundreds of llamas like the you see in the sacred of Jesus but it

was one those more small those more little incredibly incredibly

like the medusas in the mar this sphere is it was

encogia and it was more and it changed and changed with the

flames that were in so it was a violet it was a rosa rarestim

I remember very well that there was a in me that I said I

I'm I'm here I don't I'm not I'm so I'm

my man right so I'm my body very very

very all. Pass to this sphere. Yeah no we see us. We're

up to get to get to get in no way. Look, today Paco

I said what I did, I remember that episode of Moise and not I'm saying

that me has succeeded it well but when Moises saw a God

he was like a surza in a sars and the sarsa and the sarses not

so so imagine the force that has the element of the fire, that is part of the spirit. Sure. I still me asked, me put to investigate.

I asked a person very cult. Oh, yeah, this, the other, and me said, no, Agnichaitas, Agnichaitas, and what are the Agnichaitas? Well, look, are the creators of the universe, and are Ceres of Fuego

that are from the initial, well, in the process evolutionary, I said, well, Achichaitas. still I don't know but what is that

a raise of that experience that that marvillows that that

was something changed to me opened to me and I the

life of other form and I started things that I not sentia

the energy and the vibration of the people, I could say, this person

has a bad intention with care. You know, you know, no you

know the hand his mind and then care, you want to be a

thing, this person has a process of depression very

and there and it so it was incredible. I could be I'm I'm

I'm I. Leigh 10,000 books to learn no. When

I I lived that experience. And then I said, what I have to do, what I have to do with love and I go in my house, to your house,

to sleep, and at the other day I don't know how had canalized so much had canalize what could do and I

did what I know what I know that in that moment you know and it was I'm kept very clear

Paco that in that moment there was an aperture very great and that that was from my

heart, from my mind, from the and the respect to receive all that

information that is in all all the so I did the time to my antenna

so then I had to receive I all so I

not only me I perture I think that this is a process of many lives

I think the information was in my spirit in my soul and possibly in my

chain of and when I said it's there floured and I started

and I'm so I'm very sincere that I think because I'm so I

know but so I see you see that a person and it's

well, it's it's the light, God, the person and the

canalization because I only am a vehicle. That's what I am. I suppose that my

brothers say, we need people that work in this dimension, in this that is

the third dimension that is very denser. Exactly. That, that does this chambah

we don't we can't be at 100%. So, this It's very loco, I want to the

trancasos. And if you do you accept, you know, you know, but if I'm

quite very clear, without, I'm, I'm, I'm, I've got to find the

word exact. Sin create a story and create me that I, that I,

that we, all, we're, and we get us to this land for decision

proper, and what we're to do, It's in the Munds of Polvo like this Arraigar the

Luz That is your mission Paco the mission of all the people and my

mission in this moment I said go we're going to be a very Dura

going to be very very Gopied I'm going to receive much trankasos

that for me they're but it but it's in service Cremme that is

the most important that me has succeeded in the help to the people.

Sure. To that's we're going to serve. To serve. Exactly. And I see

that you, your chamba, do you do do with love with service because you want to the people

that you get the content, receive the better content, I don't see,

after a certain point, and of those who do you know, they're doing something, well,

we're not we're doing the chambah. And if you're you're doing because you're saying

something that's something that's succeeding or it's your case, I just I'm exactly.

I'm a channel. All we're all we're so we're so we're the situation function

and that's my point of view very personal Paco. That impressive I don't

me I'm not me imagine I was like a type of encounter divino

the reality is that I experimented I'm I'm a person and always

I'm a person that no not is sensible to this always

I No, I don't I don't feel. But, but in a moment if I felt sensations

different. For here, I'm going to do some videos that were to get back before the

video. It was a curious because you say, you're going to this, and

it was like, like, I'm going with my hands, with the palm

of my hands, and it was a kind of the sensation. And me

said, now you you're all the as well, how do you say. It's impressive how the world spiritual, not we've seen, but we can't feel, we can't live

in a form super-impressionate. After that you've got to your encounter, Octavio, we're to call it something, you've got to a purpose, you're in a career where you're in contact with, what I'll say many

things negative, because unfortunately in this second, we we've toped with places where

have passed many things, tragedies and a person like you

who has entered to many many people that has

been he's he has much to make a question we

let's a many many have and have experimented

the thing of the time the phasasas the

phytas the polter and maybe could be the demon

that I always is very difficult that a woman that's a

less that something that has occurred in this

moment but for Octavio Isond a a phantasma

that is a phantasm and look not it's so

a a a demonio that so we do

we we don't we we Necessarily has to be a

malo. It's correct. It's correct. A phantasm is a energy

incorporate because no has a body, but that here, is there

there, and is in all a lot of because it can move in other

dimensions and in other multiversos because no has the body

physical. So, me do and understand. So, and a phantasm also

has a problem with with the apego, how has lived the person in life and

he's a whole that conglomerated of emotions of sentiments that they're

in that. I mean, it's said that when you die, then the more and

what you have to do, is to understand that you have to transcend

and you have to let's, but many don't want They're fear. They're

in the no they're their their their their they're

appellation to their material to the family's that's logical

no my my wife my and I have to

have to there there there there so where so

not it but you can you have seen

in many investigations in a phantasm of epo that

And you say, this suede this has 200 years and still are here but in the intended

of that the time and the space is very different for them for us. I don't

see if me to understand. Possibly for us have passed 200 years and at the more

for them from his death has passed a time is relative exactly the time

is relative where they are but that energy energy very very

energy for there is in all the different there's in all the information

can be here in this in this right exactly exactly let me

let's let's I'm many are many are like antenas are like antenas

and you that that information of them not so I'm to

understand but they're in all and not more

because the people malamete that the spirits or the phantasmas or the

entities are at the nine of the night, not they're not at three at the morning.

They're in all the all hours. And right that we are doing this podcast Paco

we'd we'd have a conglomerado of phantasm as the other

because, first, there, there are there. There's three of the elements

more the things that they're they're they're they're they're

they're transcendence and also the element water and the element salt

that's of the earth also there we we're for that they're

for that they're so that so so it's it's very complicated to

talk of all this but that's a phantasm we're we've

we've many many many times, they they're trying to give a message. But as

we're not we englobo, we're not we're going to see that something that's the way to do this,

we're going but really actually there's a motive for the while is happening. As you

you say, they're many times not many times not know in where are, they can be

confused and what they want is if there's, if there a problem pendent

with a little with a little with a mom with a father

to give and give this message of I'm but how

could communicate to if I'm on the other side

of the umbral I know and only what I

can move certain things and I remember much

the part of the part of the part of the messages

in Codig Morce because it was the form in

how needed to give the message. But that's all we're we're we're we're in

the other part of the spiritos no human, that not have naturalness human,

that don't have what we've said in a ratovio, that they have that that we're

that we those humans we need and that those demons. Those those that in the podcast

can mention very little because it generate the suggestion and the The terror in the people, not the numbers, because those attracts,

those invocas, those evocas, they're in, and it's real this, Octavio. So, really, for saying it, really,

you're really, you're trying? Fidgette, I'll say something. That's very important, Jesus Christ. Desea that in his name,

expulsarant demonios. That's. About, they'll, in languages newas, if they ingeering

in some type of venenal. no, I don't see if it was something that's paraphrasean

it's that's that when he he was a demonio pedia

a name and the force is that you give his name

for to be that there there a battle, there a lucher

and see what what what they never have been human because there are people who are people that think that a demon is a

a man who is a man who is a man no no no no no no are so they're interdimensional that are they're in other other side and can't their function in this world so vast not just the earth

but the universe and and of much creation of God that exists and no no knows one is very important in the battle that they'd their

name to put them to put them and expulsar when

Jesus appres was sacaba the demons was was

a pile with pork and they they prefer

and they would get in a in a pork

to to to get to get I do

And, you know, it's about much of a great envy

no, they're also they're doing their function energetic

that they're to do. But indudably exist, yes. They're

close of the human, yes, and are waiting that comets a

error, I refer or that you met in can't many obscuro

for to them can have control and force to be to be in this dimension

and to do what they're to do. In the program, in the program, that

we've been in many years and this to do I mean took with with Felipe

in a place that the courtel. It was an investigation I think

of the most difficult where there sigilos that they had

that these forces malignas had had much force and they were abodered

of the place, abodered of the place. We're invocated. Exactly.

So, a through the invocation, a through all that type of ritual,

well, what you is is anclar those in this plan where we're not

we're not. And I remember very well was very very energetical of an entity

that the really don't want to give your name right. I don't see if

me do understand. We'll get it. A demon. And that still arrested

and that Felipe has these arrests with him. And we prefer we that's

there and there is where it has where it's where it's doing what they

do what they're in this world. But it's a risk tremendous

in that process I don't know I'm I'm quite but also it's a doubt that is an

arrest energetic encapsular in something exactly what you have you do say encapsular

it a through the oration of the energy of a battle and in

that battle you put in this case is a we can

we can we can't say like a and it and it there, and you pass

you, and if you are you, it's the eyes taped, it's important-it- to do that. Okay. And that

em-base energetic, has sigilos, and has many things that make that he not can't

get from there, okay. There is. So, I mean, to the moment, in

this moment, the clavicle salmunicas. So, is it something of what comes in this

book to do it? Yes, and it is he a oration very

and it and he a ritual very complex, very complicated that

we'd talk in about to talk to be about that,

but it to do so, and over all, it's need and service

for that not affecting in this world to the people as a

how do you do you do you do you know if you know in si me genera

the doubt of you suffered the life but when stood in this

moment was the entity abitable a place or abitable

the person the the mind of a person abitable the

and the problem was that the we were that we could we could

have an attack where if there a problem in your body physical

could be or in your mind. So we're to be to do that all so that

not so that all we all we were very got of that investigation.

No we're not one one one the first of this is that

in various occasions that we were not we could get not

we didn't we were we had done the people or I don't know

what people in this place? So, what was going? They were going to

the obscurity and the mal in this space. More the history of the place,

more the death that had been in this place. More things negative

that had succeeded, well, but it's the recipe perfect. To open the portal.

Exactly. And for that they are in the of who they're they're

and it's is that, well, here is a reality that many people, uh, a lot of dimensioning. I'm, I'm, I'm in pañal, really, I've done many investigations, and they're in the

channel, but it's a risk, I mean, the risk of the lives, that's another thing, and a thing very, very apart. Enter to a place where they're in portals abirtos, to me, this is something that the people

Yeah, you know but so he'll talk to you, Octavio. It was curious because

we found that activity pesed in a place where we're not we think we're

thinking to Dolores Hidalgo to visit the famous Tombe the Yorona and

we've moved after the point of Fralel yeah two explorations

in a day and were very too many hours of time and

we're getting to our our contact of, I have the place for to enter. And,

he's a place where they're going to enter like so mojated? So, but

is all ready for that enter. And I'm, yeah, we're, we're we're

getting, but we don't know. We're, we're going, we're going, we're, no we

we're going, and the reality is that we just that we're a surprise enormous.

Because we don't we don't expect to find that level of manifestations in that

place. The people report about the grits of the people in the nightes

but not are departments not abitats. We're we're more

very fast so fast there's there's a pata like a bed, a pat

of a matia and I enter to one of the first abitations I go

with the GoPro is all all too all I have all of the

nothing but in front of me like if someone someone

and over the feet I was going to when I feel the

I'm a maldiction for the surprise but I amof always

I'm I'm there there there no there there

and then we we're we we're to we're

every it was rare because it was like a various departments

in the field and each one I was like I was up a level in the first we found montoncitos

of the little bit of aluminum we know we know we about that that aluminum has aluminum

took a work of brugheria that has been many times with the

thing for the discompos we we started excrement we started weasos

we're going we're going to in other department yeah was a

portal yeah was the Staria, and they were sigilos

and the time we were going to more and new, the thing was very bad.

Rapid, we don't terminate. We didn't get to the last our man. We

were not we're just being lastimating. So, for that had the entity,

the force of something to get a thing, Irojaroj to you, I mean,

you know, you know, you know, you know, the level of the manifestation and the

power that has, that has the entity in I see for the team, there's a part of responsibility

for you know that's about we're doing, we're doing we've seen, we've seen that we're, we've got to

we're going to we're going to let's do the world and we're and we're to hear and we're

so, so as a time and it's on and I'm no, no, no, no, yeah we've

we've seen we're going to go back but to what I refer to in your experience

that's entered to many in places, we're in pañal, you what you think

that could have been abated in this place? In the first place

I'm sure, I think, I'm quite sure that he did

a work a but of all was contaminated possible

possibly possibly have effect rituals very and the

lives possibly possibly the people have been there

can We've got to be. We've got to be, We've got, Ropita. Of, the new of the

children. Look, what you heard of the people of what has happened there,

but for what you said, that you did you sacrifice human, and we know

there are people that and it's through this and I completely of that so, but what there

there? Imagineate, maldad pure. Malad pure, obscurity. Who no respect to the life and who doesn't respect a little, tell me what you can respect. No, nothing. So, let me say, Paco, that they're

in a risk of enormous, because the risk no is that you abienten something there into, that, well, you have a risk, but you're loquitas and

you're going to. The The risk is that you you getes an energy and that you accompany, because at the more you

don't you do it, and you're going to have a series of affectations tremendous, it's something very complicated,

and it's the risks that I say to the people that many times not we're in mind, but the

doing and do the content that you do is something is something honorable and very difficult

much times to understand but it's something that's something with the heart and the thing

because there's this risk spiritual and right that we about we would like

to talk a time that I know that you know that you are that is the famous

pactos or trats with entities malignas you have toped with

something in this time if I've seen people that has done a certain

type of pactos with those entities and possibly the life you can

a little but not for well for mal and look I don't I don't

I'm in I'm in but the people think that is

very easy pactar with the demonio and say I mean,

my and a change I want to money, money, I'm going, look,

I think, I don't know but I think there are to be a lot of people who want to

me serve for nothing. If I do and understand, I don't do and do you.

Necessita, me suppose, to be someone with a force very special

for that could pactar and for that the demonio so can presenter and for that what has to be that's interesting

no? Yes, the demonio no, the demonio not is going to be interested in any person.

Yeah. That's that's confirmed so, but if exists, it's a

risk of a risk and imagineate, and I think that the commentio said, Jesus,

that not you'd preoccupar as for who the body, but for who was the spirit. The spirit.

So when you do do you do you say, when you say a change, there's my

alma, my spirit, then you get a condenado for the years and the years

to the what? I don't know. But imagine to to get that

God you give that you your individuality spiritual, your of decision.

Your capacity to say, me go by this side, because when you accept, a pacto,

it's just because you do you. And to talk of an eternity, imagineate. That's terrible.

But there's there. There are people being, yeah, that we've talked in this

podcast a through to many stories of people that not does dole

to to do it to a son a nieto to your

own your own your mother. We've had been people and

cases of where no this this humanity no

I say I don't I'm the example of

when I go to my old my pater and

always we always I'm could not could not

even to to that it's to eat to eat,

but no, no, no, I don't I'm not, those

people who do you do do you other humans, and more than other humans, that are your

maldad pure, so, there is, there is, there is, in the same

humanity we've found that dark so dark so bill, so, so complex, so

complicated, so inentendible. But fiat, right you're that you are saying

that's your family, your children, offering, they're ritualizing, but of the

way, and what you're good that's talking that's thing, Paco,

is any is any kind of that's that for a fan of a

to have ritualizas sacrificas, I completely in contra and

always it's I've said and I'll say, because the respect

to the life, that's the most important. And there people that's

that's it's not but is that in the Bible the Cordero

of God and it will be it but in my question

spiritual very personal no I do I accepto, I'm

I'm I'm in contra of that and I

don't to to look for to avoid that type of things, not, respecting,

important to say it. Respecto. I respect. So, as like there light, there's

obscurity. As far, there's people that's that's a obscurity total and to do

the bad, but there people who is a good. You repeat, that phrase that I

think is very important. Ohal that the people take in mind. When

you decided to come to this dimension and the planet this earth, you know, is

complex, because here is hard, all. Here is very complicated. But you have the force and you have something incredible that abit that's the power of God. And it's the only

activity that can takearte to any situation. I mean, activity for the power, no? When you have that in mind,

you're going to come to a way different. But when no and when the only that you are other

type of situations respect. I don't have nothing in contra of the money.

The money is my friend. The money is energy. The money flue and will get

and it is the abundance. The abundance you get in a service when you do the

things when you do the thing, it's first one thing and

then other. Like we do that sum or that equation malachia.

And as we do you do not and it's not a way to make another remedy to

pactar and to get to the obscurity because I want to be a power

and I want to you know that's your and at you're going to you're you.

Exactly. But thinkatel two two times no. I'd like

Octavio before is that with the thing of Sertre one question,

has seen people posseid? Yes. How was your experience at being at

these people? What do you how is it and how was the thing of the exorcism or liberation

that's the practical? In first what you think you think you all the world

would be in no septicism but a fear but the energy that has

these persons that have in a position, are incredibly fervent, but at level physical, a level mental, and also a level energetic.

What you see, is fear, because you know, that not just the person, that there is something that is something more important of them. Cangia the voice, can't the mirada.

You can be a person very dulce. I you talk about a case that I did a person

a woman young very chapparita that us about what I

would I'm a 40 90 and a other person but with the

two two meters it's impossible like they're exactly that they're

exactly that they're that they're that it's impressive Paco

is incredible because is incredible, but it's something that's something that. Okay. How can you talk to detail of that case? Octavio, so concreted the exorcism,

liberation, how it's done? We can't talk about? That's what many years. He's called to this person. No, I'm going to

give his name. Sure. Because he's a respectuoso. But me and he looks, and he looks, and he looks,

and he says, my mom, is not so I would like to me help. I would

I'm a very rare. A yeah. Not a her mom to her not a

so I'm so I'm so I'm let me let me we're the mom and the

mom was perfectly well I don't see if me to understand that part

of her yeah was I'm saying but but of another

way I'm not could do it because possibly what was

affecting I'm not going to permit that we'll do that work of liberation. It was

incredible. It was the mom. Then disappeared. I saw the mom. My mom

is my mom is bad, but then I said, no, for the that's

not, but I don't say to say to let's we're that we

had to no, it had to flowed that. That's very for that

a job of this type there should have to have been a series of for

to have a well, I don't a group and you talk and I'm

I'm to do you do you do it because it's a risk very

great. So, then you need to keep those can those can't

have done these can't but in our case And that day I was with this

friend, I was with this friend, I said, I mean, he was reichista, but I said also of this type of situations. There was another person with us, that was that was, adentran to this world.

So, then, well, he was no, no, no, no. Look, the fact, what you see in the movies, well, is what you're real,

no? As to count, that was the temperature, for a say, a 32 grads. And in what

he put a minus five. Wow. Incredible. And a place great,

a place more or less or this. So it was a work a very complex.

I, I, I said, I don't know what I'm going to do you have to

do. But I have to do you say, no, I'm, no,

no, that was a work with a problem. We're we

We started a certain type of orations. It was very very strong. There was a moment where never, never me

has so much. Because, and also I've talked about. Because I don't

respirable the person. So, I said, it's going to be to do here? He's going.

So, we're going to we're we're we're we're doing

in Sure. Yes, to do the person, the responsibility. No, no, no, so horrible,

but we need to continue doing doing doing to our trincher with what we knew. Here the

important is the faith, and that's basic. The faith with the thing with the things, so,

you've seen, as you've seen, as the people who the, how it's, how it's

when it when they're when they're and then they're and they're exactly. Exactly. So,

So, so, it's but passed two, three minutes. I don't

know, because I don't know what I don't know because I'm a murder clinical in

that moment and he went to because no there was respiration. The hands,

the hands, the nothing. So, then, so, but in

oration, in oration, in oration, it, like if if he had been Augandos and

he will be this we're we're doing and the really was incredible

how he was and he was normal and he was normal I said I'm

I'm I'm I said no I'm because I don't know

I'm but we did you I'm I'm I'm I'm

you're the ritualization complete ecclesiastica for part of the Church Catholic

or is that I have intended or I've seen how it's different

religions. For example the the church a Catholic manage much

a type of ritual more more has to a

process that is established that are certain symbols

so occupant the santos holios certain as the

church evangelica Christian occupa more a time of, no me interest

the name of the entity or the demonio I and my group of people

and members imponem hands and we all we need and we declarable for that

person and you go and the person and the person and starts to act to an

form very strange so what I the common denominator in both is the

faith? Yeah, the faith is is the present that you

not are the that's the guy is because many people me say oh yeah Paco

what is the person we're not we're not you know I'm not I'm Octavio

they're those the media the who's the who's God

Jesus of a power very very strong yeah the

light so I'm so so so that you want to serve and that he wants to help.

He will have an auxiliary although not see as the canons establishes. But if you do you

do you know, not is the burrow that took the flout because you do you know in this type of

churches impone in their hands and they are what we're talking and the energy and

the frequency vibratory. Exactly. The frequency vibrator not does support a someone

that comes from under astral. He no soported. So it has to you know,

that we know that we know that we we're not so bendecides we're so so much so much

that if get a moment, that if they can't three or two with that they're going. Like

the Bible. Where are two or more. Exactly. I'm I'm going to be

there. And look Jesus said, you see what I do? You do you

do you can do and more grand if your faith were of the time of

a semilla of mostaza I go for favor there's the response to all. Exactly.

I always I've always thought for those is that is that I do it is simply

sure that is much value much faith and to have a connection with God

exactly and that your ancestors and that your protectors and that

your brothers and that that the work that you have to do you have to do

in this third dimension be the adequate to be able to do it.

Okay. One plus one Paco is two. So, and if you do

the sum here or you do do you do you do you do you do you

do you want to the result will be the same. Amor faith

and light to disalo of the places of people and

of demons. so simple. The formula is and what is God? To find out of the final

of course God, I'm going to ask a question Octavio and we're to ask you where we're

going to we're going to let's because there people very poor people I'm going to

say the people of the community of the podcast not is of those but there there's

that they do that they're that they can the they're in the I want to

talk about the thing burgeria. You, what do you think of

the brusheria? Exist. The brujeria is a mind. In

first place. The brujeria has an intention ality.

So, like an or you do do you do for to

do you with that intention in the light function and the

And so, too, there are very obscures that can make other type of situations and and of orations malintentioned to damage to

someone, and it can result. Sure, that result. The brujeria exists. What is with the people

that all do they all can feel that person that I'm bad, maybe me did something

simply me molesta his light. I don't want but I

what I want to she just that she don't know to Don't John Juanito

that Don Juanito says I am the man just well well you know

the light of that woman or of that man me molesta I want

to want to I'm to I'm that not that I

want simply I don't want to he no he no he has we're going to

do it we're going to do we're going to send him to pestered to, no see

it's so that's so easy not so easy but as as like it's

so see see that tristemence I think I think

one of the brujeria most great that is the envited

is very very very If the people if the people if did a

point of the stragos that I do you know that I'm I'm

anybody absolutely nothing nothing but exists and there and there

people that has the know and there people that is people

can invite something but tristement fiat the the

that's the person for that not brille because me

molesta your brillo because what's what is the frugated

you you're you're because at final of the point the

light you don't be going to get there and what

they're to stop to pause to put you

put you put on the that you do see and

if exists but but also you you to

to to refors that part incredible that we all we have

where a through your mind, of your orations accresentas that protection

that is like your armadura and it's more difficult that you can do do something.

I can say and that I think I am I'm that in all

the time that I I'm I'm working in the program

of television and from the time that are, eight years that I know

and that conviv I because he was the producer seven years eight years

we're we're not you know but of but of so you say you

say you barbaros no those they're they're and we're

we're we're we're we're we're we're we're in the

offices in our houses. A bit of us We're going to I'm going to I'm going to let's see

this and the other we've been we've been we've been and we've lived and it's really and

Felipe very very but what what's with the people that's

that does the brujeria but the person has this level of spirituality

of protection and repell the Brugheria. Look, you know I can compare very simple

like a contienda of box where I don't say boxiators but you put one

very good and other not so well the good but the good you're going to

you're to do and that's and so so you know if you know you know

you know you know you can't you can move tantito if can

bolt, a gancho to the little but when you pegs you're

seven and you don't they're to get to get with you. Valle

a clear, no it you're you're doing then I go to no, no

no, no I'm I'm not, I'm not. But in that protection you know you know

you know you know that you the person that's being the back and the Because much

people say, I don't do you know I'm just I'm just you're not much you're not because you're

you're going to you're going to more bronca after after because the who does those jobs know how

deslindars of those situations. But if exists, sure, Paco. I've

I've got a person to know the history to you to us to let's I'm

to come Rumba Tuxpec is impressive how the Brugheria could get to

tambalier your system of that I'm in that then then I'm

a person that was a person that practically yeah in nothing,

but to pop to part with the real brusheria because I've

resaltar and I said, I've said, we know, we're going to

talk with a number imparable incontable charlatable charlatanes but when

we saw with the true burgeria see how it

materialize of the body of a man, clavos, see how it's

materialize of a woman of your part intimate, that is an animal

to that a degree of mald that is something. And many don't

believe and it and it is good because I was part of that number of

people that said that that is that that But, clear, that until that no you live

you, no you're because really is something that a person that your eyes are

being, being, and being your mind you say, no is possible what you are doing.

And that that's, that's that's that I'm I'm going, I don't know I

think. I'm try to assimilar how function the materialization.

And, for example, you are a person that manage much the element Fuego

I've seen in some fragments of videos where you make an exercise

with the fire and me took to see something an remolino enormous that

was a thing enormous I was a I know I've I've seen and

here a friend us one one so they they were some

tremolinitos there like of 5 centimeters but to be something

let us Octavio it's incredible I'm I'm I'm I'm

a element of and if you said I'm I'm I just the fire no no

no because it's something that's something from your from the fire

is from the spirit and when you you something is a little

some infestation demoniac and we we're many cases that already in

these times that we're having infestations demoniacas spirit entities

very strange that can be able to be able to and other times

and what we're in that we're in this time is creations

personal a through the malas emotions sentiments and

anxiety, ennoho, envy, and they're called tulpas. And those are creations your, but

are equal of complicated and of machiavelics and of fertes than the that are

isolatedly or by their side. If I do and understand, alls conviven

and that's very complex. Very, very, very, very complex. What

what happened that when we were doing that harmonization what there was

in that house or in that the environment what occurred

because there was something that visible and that's

what what what occurred in that you refer

to the where is a remolino like a 70 almost

we we we're we we're we the last

investigation of 190 1 Well, yeah, it's something. I think, I know, I think. I know, I'm going to be in that place, the history of that place.

There, there was a murder. And it was a department that rented? And it was a, look, it was a space that's convictor in 7 Airbnb. Me referio. It's a remodelar, and it's a construction that has more of 200 years, that has a page of adobe,

that there was a infestation of gusanos, of those gusanos that say that for the adobe so, but also we know in the argoad of the energy that also is very complex to see that type of gusanos

and it has to be very much with maldad, with envy, with all this type of situations. So, that's the place was infestated for all that. So, said we thought in some

moment that were energies very subtle and we did not at the moment of ritualizing in that point

after having done the investigation of having lived what we've in an abitation

in special had had happened something was very complicated or not the

murder of a person so then there was there was done all those Echers violent

But in the number 3 Of course When we came Philippe no could open We had to Open with

a key And not could Abry And we said But how No, but how? In the

Delante or right And you You know Because we're We're trying to

open They're some parts corredises of crystal and we We're

access with the light that they have the cameras Because

to be being what occurred to He was in this space three phenomena. First,

open in a cajong of the kitchen. Tell me who it was and there was nobody. No

we know. Atras where you your roba, so they were many

ganchos. We're we're in front and in the television. That's a

phenomenon portrait geist. True. Tremendor. But tremendous. what's going to what happens when there

an accumulation of energy negative like that we've been in this space for different situations for what you do you mind is for a maldition for what it's arraigated

and the way of sack it is a time of a ritual and a disalojo and it's a through the vibration of the verb of the oration using the element

to fire and at moment that you are you is the remolino that's and so is the the lucho

and the portal that's being able to get it is a it's a war practically it's a

war is a battle and the and those we're we're we're we're

we're we're not the remolino it's you're two meters So, we've got all

and we're very happy. We're very tronados. We're going goldeated. A lot of crises of

anxiety, a sometimes with problems in the body, inexplicable. It's a shock of energy tremendous.

Apart of the backoneo, no, of energetic, of that you're not, that's agotado,

normally the people who are very from this side, because us are to understand

or us count their experience physical, of how the body

has been what's in the explorations that you have your a lot of batteries

all full cargadas and strangely the camera well, no has no has a pill

and then put in another we're more but also the same so it

with the energy of the people there this badon you

you feel a me what me what I occurs much is that I'm I'm going to have

a lot of the head. I'm going to get to maria that is when I'm going to get a place obviously very

carried. But mention about the theme of the elements Octavio. How one person can know what is

your element? Fidate that that's very intuitive. There's much people that for your date of

your birth for your horoscope, one are an element of air, others are water,

other are Fuego, others are TIR And, and, well, it's valid,

no? For example, I'm Libra. So, if not I'm should be

an air. Libra is air, no? I'm the correct. I think is so. Yes,

yes, yes, and I'm doing, and I'm going, possibly for the date of

the date of the question energetic is that element, is very important if you vibras with some other

element and you you're nearer and you think that you can't work with him well, make the case to your intuition, it's your intuition spiritual.

Okay. Yes, me do and understand. That's very important. Also is very important. The two elements are extremely important, those four.

But yeah is conformed one's one of acopland and here one of the

questions a little a little duras there's a message that you does

the which is not you don't you know but what what's

the content that's generate that cause fear letick us

fith that that that that question is very

important because because we We're we generate a content, well, paranormal, of experiences that are

inexplicable, and what happens and what inexplicable and the people get to fear. But we're, and Felipe and

your servitor, we've been charged of that situation to say to the people, no, they're

because if you have you your frequency vibratoria and your worst enemy is the fear. When

fortaleces and you know that is a phenomenon that's being and that you're living but

not I don't you don't think you're not you're superman but that you don't

you have that when you when you when you when you get all your

defences if me do understand and you are more susceptible to an

attack energetic if we we're to this but we have to explain to

the people that the the fear is one of the enemies and that opens the

doors to many things when you you're you're you and you

try to explain to the more manner as how you

you're you're you you know I'm I'm I've discovered

the black, or the panacea. No, I'm going to say that that's a but I'm

to say that there's an intuition very personal of every person or of us to do this

knowledge and we know that the fear that the fear of your frequency vibratoria, your

body, your body, physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, will have a

effectation, and what so what so you do you you're going to be or a job of brugheria,

what will be going to do more in the tower much more rapid. Yes, you're more vulnerable. Exactly. I go, if we can,

we can't we operate with that granite of the arena, and as well, you're dedica to this, and you're

that you're not trying to share to the people. Conocimient. Exactly. Yeah. You know, you know,

I do much work of investigation paranormal. But, there you go and divirtete. No, no, no, wait. Also, you know, you have to from your trinchera to explain to the people

and try to help with that granite of arena and to say, if we act, not from the fear, we're going to have a protection much more grand. So, the phenomenon

is going to be how is, but now no in the frequency a bad. Exactly. Yes. Yes.

Yes. And then me do and understand. That's, I've explained even even with an example of my person, because I'm a person I want to think that you're not

too, meodosal. But now when it's happening something, you know, I'm going to try to understand that's what that's going to

understand that's what's going to the environment. I'm my telephone and I'm to do a work

different, trying to understand the phenomenon what is, what is your intention, you're in, you're in,

what's the past, you know, what's what's what, and it's what much people

also has transmitted to that information and they they're to have to be or to be in

the same syntonia. Because in the podcast, we know, as the victims

of the podcast, because there people that has written for your program,

now I live this. I'm, oh, well, I'm, I'm, for your program,

I'm did get to because I'm doing this, it's going to this,

every that I see the podcast, I'm some things in my house,

we have a master today. Dinos what's what's what's what's

in those things? Really, the phenomenon to the thing? What

can to pass that the energy and trespass but for so are these elements now. When we

we're talking when we said to the people, I'll be this and this is very complex so

so please so you know you you know that you're you're not permitting that enter

energy and other type of things for favor put and put a bell

termining the program make an to put a glass with a water or a plato with salt of gran, for that's

absorbed to the negative. That's what has what has to do the people. No, it's not exime. Look, who likes to

see the phenomenon, knows, and he knows that there will be a risk, a risk, that, that me

can't, that I'm that I'm that suggestion, that me suggestion, that, that's all

that, but if we can't to avoid us the other that is the

energy a through this type of situations that are simple not are

complicated because you're to be to understand the phenomenon

the is also a through the the current

electric for so if you have seen and I have

seen a movie but if you have seen movies

of terror. So when when it's like all very cano and then the foes to say

tack, and we have been really. That's not really with that lampa

that's that's a yeah? Sure. And if you're seeing your television

and you are seeing a program maybe a very hard because it could

be that there there's a change in the energy but no for

that a demon or go to your house, for favor, if I do and

understand. But it's very simple. If you like the thing, if you consume the

question paranormal, it is very easy. Be all what you want a bellator

a blan a ballada and a one of the question and get to do you do not

nothing. But nobody exime. Exactly. Nobody to exime for

For a favor, you're in all the Exactly. Exactly. Yes. Yes. Yeah,

of a point where we're we're going to this episode. I'll

to say, if the episode you are going to let us know with your

like, subscription. If you're on the podcast as Spotify, there

a botocito that I see to see and record that the radio

social of our invited is in the description for that you

go and you know what is the terror the question of the question that I

think many you know that much others want to know after

after many years investigating visiting places entering going

and getting things receiving Daoons? What has been the case

that more you have been the more the most for

there one's about a famous case of the

court they is the is the most you do you

do you do you do I agree to say that's

one of the most one of the most you can say

what what was we we We went, if I don't remember, various times.

We didn't, well, no, we initiated, it was, it was an battle because it had to initiate the battle, and we had to finish this

battle, and it was, we were talking after a rato Paco, with this arrest, energetic,

of what was there, but in that process, we found rituals, we're, we're sure,

that was human, We've got back. We've got we're trying that we're saying that I don't know

what they're asking but they were an door enormous for the malddad and the obscurity

in your major I don't give the name I don't I don't

give the name of what we're in the chapter then the chapter then they're to be

and it will be, and then. No. No, we're going to we're going to and that's a promise. They're going?

We're going. We're going again. Avicen when? No, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll,

I'd say, I mean, that's the case, I was sure that if it was the most strong, if not the most

It's one of the most Firtes. With much affectations to all those who we've been in this place. Until right, it's one of the cases more that we've lived. We've got to be a point where

you've been to be one of the many of the many of your career, Octavio, and that many want to know, has been in many places Malditos Lugares Where we

We're Where we're infestations Demoniac Spirits Has been really in a

risk very constant and you have a great career but in those

those years what has been the case more that has been that you have talked to live.

Well look we've we've been my canals And the first investigation, the case 915. 915, 915, of Nowhere.

Nowhere, a cameraman, a cameraographer, a friend of the others, suffered of an attack energetic very strong, he, backed his frequency vibratoria, and that was to go to his house with him. So what we went to do is to Saca

all that energy negative very complicated that not he was doing living

that he had a mal quality of life he and his family

that's you can see in my can't in Invis the channel of Octavio

Lysondo official Invisibles there is the case 915 I think one of

the most fertes because because I was very desperated he

So, we've We've done We've done our chambed. And you promise that right now is a much more. Is it one of the cases more fervous. And there we'll, for example, of a thing of brujery? When you, fiatte very well, when you think, something that you can't do, like, something to do you can't do, like, how brogheria, back your frequency vibratoria, but nobody can

broh your spirit. No see if me to understand. This is very,

very important. Your ancestors you're they're they're their

your ancestors to you. Rindel tribute. Okay. Pidelis. Put

a photographia of them to the end of your house and that is rendir

with honor to that Because, thanks to you, you're here, and they're going to care, and they're going to protect, and you explain.

To what way you can, you do, back the frequency vibratoria of a person, asustatling? I mean, me do you understand? You, you know, you

go to your house and you see a bird or you see a language of a vaca with clavos, or you

see. Magia of contagion. Exactly. But what is what is what is what is affecting

your mind. If there's an affectation in your mind,

difficult you can't do something. Okay. If I do you see.

The detail is that the human are very we need to see to believe

and as we're seeing probably a punio of a panteon that

they were to go to be to be inconsientiment yeah is is

there's being they're trying and if something me out probably

that's something that's something that probably you're going to a mal employee all the year

and you get a time to do your job and they're in the mind and they were going to

get to but now because you've seen that they're working they're

going to you know you know you're you know sure but but

I repeat it's difficult if you don't do you don't do you

your mind is your you know the potential that you have and that nobody can brugar

your spirit, you are protected. And it's your question, and change your frequency, and acercate to the light, and know,

your God, if a child of God, is very difficult that they do something. But how, how are

to do that first, first, the fear, and there, the vibration back. Then,

then they're to do something and if you have been the door. And you are co-creator. of your reality

exactly and you do you let say it's let the entry and enter the the end up

absolutely all absolutely and it's more and it's more easy to be responsible

a third because me did it because me enruho to say

I'm I'm saying I'm doing the things and I am and I'm

opening the and my mind is creating many

are many but I'm I'm I'm I'm I

do That's That's. What form to start this episode? The reality is

that I think we've a great lesson. Many times the human is like

programmed to incliners more to get a negative and to find the justification

many because not call it that form of that I'm going to

this because somebody me is doing something when really

we're we've rematis much but is 100 real

you you are the creator of your own reality. You

creas and we're the first principle universal of the

Sir Hermest Magistro that is the universe is mental so

everything you do you do you create your reality so

so what that this episode that this episode am that

for finalize what is your purpose to serve serve

to be serving to show that the phenomenon no exists in not to be it's something

it's something with what convives a daily so if we we can from our trincher

to to say to the people to help to the people that is very important

and and give and give and we're we're and that is what

that is what we're to that's of the actually me clear

my we'll talk about we'll talk about we're talking about you know

you're four videos in your channel approximately an month a month but

the the support the love of the people that have encountered

in you in your new project invisible is so notorious of

really is impressive the carino of the people

that has got to the heart of them and the

way in how we've reflected is there. There's we're the

support of how consuming what you doing what is you know and

and likeekeating recommend and it's something I mean I mentioned with the

family of the podcast something so so so so beautiful

because we we just we we just we we're we

we we're we And they're and they're and they see that that you

do you do with you do with your community and it's something let me

say it's not all they're a person that's a person that transmitting that

that I thank you do do I do you do we do we're

we're we're we're we're we're this project we

we're two people that we do you know you know is

maybe complicated I mean, Felipe, Edita, he has a chamba tremendous, no? But if there's a little, and that's very important to mention it, is that we're used to give a quality like you offeres. And that's what we're going to continue doing

because the people should be respected and quality. So, at the time of here, that's your house and your podcast, I want a podcast, I'd appreciate to all the people that has made fervantes during

that's years, that pite for us, that he for us, that we desire good

things, that are our our our and to ask us, that they

can't, that they subscribe to our channel of YouTube, that not us

we're to defraudate, we're to do the better that we have to

do. And I think that with so I go very tranquill, no?

Agrading. There's a very grateful in the life. And we're going to work more and we're

to get to get to get that's very high. We're new in the media digital, at a certain

point. We're trying but we're great friends like you. Much of thank you.

That's that they're making us then we can't and informer to the people

that is what we we're what we are what we're doing. So, so, so please, for favor, compartan,

for favor, tell them like, diganle to their friends, that's subscribe, they're going to be very good content.

Yes, Octavio Elisondo official, Invisibles. For there, I think you also,

you've made, you've been, for the people that you know, you can't do it? Yes,

come, no, I'm, I'm very content, because I have the opportunity,

and, And, look, let me see. I think it was also as the

project of Invisibles when the book came to the sale the on Amazon.

It's a bank in Amazon and I am very content because look, not it

is presumption but I'm going to say in what countries is a market and

it's a month of the United America, Michigan, Japan, India,

India, Spain and And me has Falka, Canada. Okay. So, it was in first place,

the book, of that the people was looking and I think is a book that will help

a lot of the people, and he will help to the point of energy of all

what we talk we because at final of the time, is a manual for that

you you can, you can, you can, live in the here and the

hour. It's called, I am I, you are, as to presence in your

present, that is the only that you have not the past, or the future,

is your present. So, so it's digerible the book and has

had been very good opinions of the people that you have

so, so, then, then, please, that enter to Amazon,

that they're to get to the second, because yeah

is prepared. So, Felicidays Am Thank you. Many There are many projects, but Invisibles.

I'll retom, de new, is a project with much love. We're going to give the bestigations. We're going to have been complicated because

you know that it costs. And you know it, it costs a much. So we're doing much effort for that this can come in, but

go can't. I'm sure that I'm sure that the sky is the limit, I'm sure that are going to be great

things. Of the really, we declare enormously in you. They're

people who entregn the heart and that's the care and the love to

the community. With this we we're we're much thanks

for accept the invitation. Thanks for having been

in our studio. It's a tremendous honor that you does.

We're we're we're we're thanks again again a

Felipe. Thanks to the family of the podcast that's listening this episode from from your

house, from the gymnasio. Let's give us, for favor, that the

reds, are in the description, and of the same if you did you did this

episode, for favor, if no, still, you know, you're also

consume the content, but not subscribe. Subscribe. Debran's, they really, not know,

so much that they are doing it's something that is something in seconds, but that

pacted of great form the work that's doing

to be the time of the person and I'm very thank you to the community

to the community of the community of Spotify and I want a

great a little to you don't forget on your

podcast favorite and you know my name is Pac Arias and

we're we're we're in the next episode until the

next chow chow Ciao.