EXTRA ANORMAL - Fuimos de Misión como Mormones y nos Enfrentamos con un Exorcismo | Pintura Maldita en Pediatría

Episode Date: June 8, 2024

¡Bienvenidos al Extra Anormal Podcast, donde exploramos lo inexplorado y lo inexplicable! En este episodio, nos adentramos en un viaje extraordinario lleno de misterio y sorpresas. Acompáñanos mientras compartimos una historia increíble: nuestro encuentro con el mundo de lo paranormal mientras realizábamos una misión como Mormones. Desde enfrentarnos a la necesidad de realizar un exorcismo hasta descubrir una pintura maldita en el área de pediatría, cada momento nos llevó al borde de lo desconocido. Sumérgete con nosotros en este relato fascinante lleno de encuentros inexplicables, emociones intensas y revelaciones sorprendentes. ¿Qué nos deparó este viaje hacia lo sobrenatural? ¡Descúbrelo en este episodio lleno de suspenso y asombro! 

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there relaxing, but there was a person. He regress to the chirofano, still

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Norberto Silva How is your mano? A salute, Paco, how you're doing? A good. A little to your community that, like you, we

like to see your videos. Thanks, I'm going to start. I'd like that you present with the audience.

Who are to what you do you and your networks social? Sure, I'm,

I'm Norberto Silva. I'm creator of content here in Monterey and you thank

the space that you want to come to talk about experiences personales, family,

of people all-alleged to me. My channel is called N.S. Paranormal Podcasts. So, so, it's for me a hobby. It's a fission that I do, in ratitos. I'm an engineer automotris, engineer mechanico.

I've got more of 20 years giving service to this type of service, and for the nights, in ratitos, to liberate the stress. We're grab them videos of content, relato, of terror. And in some opportunities, me reunal with people

to talk about this type of this type of phenomenon extra normal. It's that precisely

just like you know and I was a lot when I labored about for some companies,

is that independently I think of what you do you do you what you do you

simply sometimes there sometimes there's sometimes there's and then there's

this part that you can't you know so it's like a sometimes

some some sometimes some they're they're like you, like

us that even even in our work in our work, we're

we're doing we're doing this for the art. Yes, for good.

Yeah. Family, before to start, I'd like that in those first

first time, you know, you put a comfortable, you put a comod, you prepare to do a

activity if is that you do you're going to you want to you know, you know to the

button of the subscription that you find you're you the

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you can't you also you also we're we're doing

more more more more than I'd start with the question

that we always we're because it's interesting to see.

Cres in the phenomenon paranormal? Yes, I think for a thing personal.

So, I think that the channel is called NS paranormal. So,

and I think for a thing personal, I would like to know

that at the final of all of all more more than you. Okay.

So, of that you like, like the celles little, see,

I see, I like I want to see, I like,

I see, that you your family can be with you, family, family, friends,

I mean, I think it's very little the time that we're in the life, like,

for that's, they're in these years, I mean, and it's what I'm doing, I mean,

I'm, I mean, to know, and say, you know, when I'm, when I know, when I

talk the moment, when I say, you know, you know, but we going to see, but we

know, there's this part that I'm also, that I've I've got to think

much of we're here we're there's a probability one

one one one that our person that we we that we

have been casuality there's no no there no it's

a really I like much to hear and is that is the

reality not that we we we're we we

we we're in this and is for so that

I don't I don't want to sound romantic, but I think we have a purpose that many times tracienda the murder. So, I also I'm also, I think that our state, our arrival to this world, not only

only will be a standard, like, you know, of 70 years, 60 years, 80 years, no? So, that there's a little more, for what we're supposed to this world, and it would be interesting to know, in your case, what was the experience that

you give to believe to create in the phenomenon. Well, I'm

many anecdotes personal that I want to talk about. This me

passed on the house earlier. The initial, it was a

fraction new. When recently me cased, we we

bought a house new in a colony private. This

and this house had a particular this colony, the that was

the one side of the colony, the colony is like a So, yeah, for one a river so enormous,

the other side of the colony is to a pantheon very great and the other side was the front of

the colony. So, then I mean the rio, the rio, the river, the river, that has

occurred many many tragedia. I don't want to try the of the Yorana

because it's a very, so I know what I know to say, but when I

saw, and we had in that I'm in that I'm in that scarce meters. You're just caminades

for the colony and you could see tombas these the cruces

or never never didn't nothing but you know there's that

there. So in this house so like a house new

you want to make to make to build and we we're

we we're we we're when we when came the

problems when started the posos for the cimentation

new to Amplier that my Spos that my Pesauce. So,

passes and feel a presence that I see, I'm saying, I can go to go to

the kitchen, I go to someone comes behind behind me, but

if it is like if were passitos chitos. Like a little

two years, three or are so passitos so, so, so,

so, I'm to go, to the cell, and I see, a person

is a chiquita. We, we think as we've suffered recently, we've seen a year of seven,

eight years, but we've suffered a per die and we said, well, so it's a way to

assimilar, this, well, but it's, I think, it was, it was when we started

when we started the house. I used passitos, but those passitos just were just used

to be visit with my papas, my Sueros, and there all was all

was good. Okay. ...hegave to the house and then then he was observed, no,

I mean to say it's persegied. Okay. And then I'm at the part of that she had a I'm a

little bit of seven, eight years, he started with the problem of sonambulism. Okay. She,

for the nights, when she was done to her house, I said, caminable

for all the house, back to the without the without the fall. And, you know, the eyes, between and serrated, and

so, like, making a row a little, um, and caminand. Yeah. And, I was the door principal, and I wanted to open the door to go to

the street. I'm here in Monterey, we, we're used to use, with a key, the key, passable, this, and the

occasion in the occasion in the case, in my my house was two-pissos, this, and up the dormitory,

she was going and we were going, we we're about in the cell. I'm

seeing a movie, it's a time, and we're going to try to be the door.

And I'm to start and I don't me and I heard of, I said, I mean,

I was like, the, the, the re, and let me another other way, to get a

question. But it was very, very, very so it was very so, and,

but never before had detected that she had done or pere this type of

conditions. Yes. The sonambulism. What we did we did in that we did put her cascabels to the doors. Okay.

To all the doors of the quarters of the entrance to put cascabels for so in the night, that's all

silence, if it was if it had a point, but I know, I know,

I know, that something that's going to go to do it to do that. That's, that was a unado

to the pacitos that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm so, so the other to this,

the those people, you know, is that are in the casas, for the general, you have the people, you know, people, you know, but in my house, this, they're in front of a garden, an arbor, this, I'm, this, I'm all, this, when, when

not, when, when, you're, well, it's very notorious, because here, the people, I'm, I'm, yeah, also, every who has their car, your spouse, the, they're, they, they're in car. If not are in the caros, well, they're not, so, is, that the car of someone, then, then, then, you know, they'll, you know, they're in

in the house. So, so we'd we'd, we'd we'd, we'd and every everyone had in your car, but you know,

there's there's people. Dice, no, that was many times, that was many times, that saw, playing outside

in the arbor of the garden, and she'd see a little of four, five years, me said, but not were you

didn't, because not were in their cars, and I said, so, and so, and she, was, and I said, and she,

and I said, and I was, and I was, and I, how, And he said, yes, until

that we got to because we said, we said, we're a because we're a child,

but in that we're we're in this that'somable, we've been that's seen, and she, the little

and she, the little to get to the house of you. I said, yeah, that's,

yeah, that's interesting, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's important. In that when you

when you're when you're on, that's something, that's people, people who

live in the same they're going to this, how I'm this spirit this entity that's in your house,

that's in the patio, what did you, what happened? Look, in that then we were not,

so, all this thing of the paranormal, we know, that they're that, but that's

that you say, you know, or so, so, so, so, so, so, always we always

we're a application logic because we don't go to go to

say, it has to have an explanation or so yeah. So, so,

we don't we did nothing. What did we did we did we did not

we're in there. So, we're just a time more long in this place.

I mean, just after the we said we're saying that the need to the

that of a way in the window of the room of the

right, I'm there's a other other thing that I'm that I'm a lot

to do you know, those people, the we're we need to adopt

if we can't get some animal that's we're we're we're getting

to get to the veterinary what he occupies medicine that X without in that

in that house we don't we don't we don't have any a mascot. So,

we had Chihuahuas Chihuahua that we had two I remember very well. The two

amnesian, or so in different occasions, right? Yes. All were one

on the morning near the house. So, so it was like if it

had had had had an infart the second Chihuahua that we took him that we

did you then. Then we then we're we're we're not we're to have

to have to have got to We've got The gato Well, you know You know The gats are

Very agile So you know They're They're moving They're So they're So they're So much

Well The gattito In that Abol This is It came He came And he

He's And he He didn't He got The catito And I Yeah And I

I was I'm I'm Yeah So, So, no It's Like

Oh, I mean Pude A Poo of It's supposed that they're that they're They're in

They're It's It's a He came to And he said The other Gatue The other gatto

We've got He went to The house So yeah We said No, well Here is

to have to have animals I'm I'm I'm Yeah, it was going

Is that initially well We know We're we know We're that

when exist in this type of spirits entities In cases In Casas Departament

Those Are the Are the Are the animals are the animals and the animals

So I recall Much The movie When the Conjure 1 When the family And the perro He gets out And he starts

But the people No, He says, well, You pass, don't you're You're used to To be To be that type of

Signals And with this I don't independently if it's dramatism If it's real or no Really it's

a part important Because if us represent Really the Reaction of the animals,

and the phenomenon paranormal at start there. So,

even there legends in Mexico that they're that the people

especially have this ability to see the the

gats also. It's about this line very that

they can they're in a sense presences and the intention,

the maldad because there they're there's that can't

can conviv with the people and the people

also, but when they're back, astrales, are of very low vibration, is, we're talking to maldade, no? After that what's

what do you, they're saying? I think those perrits or the mascots like at a certain point they protect.

Yes, like they're like they're the first in receiving the malamente or well, or they're in

a function that is to protect to it's their naturalness to the members of the family.

This, other thing that was that I'm What happened in that house is that I go to

I'm over I'm a little the door of the house and then we're all we're all

all right I remember that were like the two or three of the morning and I'm

I'm to talk the door so but very very the the door

of the and I and I'm and I'm and I'm desperate and I'm so

because to make you have you have to open first my barandal I'm

I'm to talk, I was out to the timbre in the banquette, or in the street,

you know, I'd get at my papas, something so, but no, I said,

no, they're, I mean, was, I know, was, it was, I'm,

I'm, I'm, let me see, what, let me see, someone, he said, someone,

he said, someone, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and no, I'm,

no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to get, to hear the day

next Paco us they're that my abelito was dead that night

no he's that that night you think that you're what

in many many that's that these people visit or recogent or they say I don't

I know I think I with my abuelito was a person very car I'm

I'm much of my infancy they were they were backations and I just just

we just we go to the house of the all the vacations, Fines of weekends, days of

Christmas, there me was a very important for me. And, was that that's what

that's probably probably I don't see, now. Now, now I'm

so, now I know, because, but no more, me took to the person, pass in these situations

that can't make us to us to make conclusions. You know, is an

acercement much with your abel there's an love inconditional

a love very person would think that was like

a last visit the and you feel you

he was that he was trying and it's

something very very very something so so you

talking behind of I'm you You talked about an experience that has to

with a doctor? There's a story very known here in Monterrey Yeah

It's called Well, they've been called many names This is a Aemperor

Margarita has a And this Enververer were in the years 70s Finals of the years

70 Principions of 80s Let's remember that in that In that the family

the families, the people was I don't I don't know how I don't want

to say something. But the patriarchal like it was more a woman

at your house, in your house and the woman out of so

so Margarita this covering a job of and then I don't know if

she had a time night and even and even was a person

very dedicated because so in the line was a person that was a person who

did it not only only did it was the $1 $1 $1 $1

to attend the patient if there had to get to see, you know, you know,

you're a doctor but you know, because if you're put a much attention to

something, you know, you know, tendes to be not, so, so in

that's then the husband, the Margarita well, not was, I was,

that's, that's, so it was so, so it, so, so, so,

and, so, and even, and even, perhaps that the people see,

divorcee, so, divorce, you, divorce, in the years 70 or not it was not

it was a clear it was like it was like and Margarita this was sentia this

this this was you know the cause was that the cause was that no there was a mediation

for so so it's okay yeah yeah or so not just in your work

and is that in this time was the thing was much much more more conservative

we we're we're we're for all the life and no

me going to separate. And the fact of divorce is like to say, I'm saying,

I'm doing compiling a commandment of God. Sure. You know that part. So,

Margarita, Alvercher so, well, I think, I think, it's, it's a

impacted in her head, a woman top, passed completely to the other side. What was

what did Margarita? He's to disquited in their work. we know that the we're doing

turns of 12 hours not work because it would it's impossible that any part human can't the but put on the

when you work 12 hours you're you're four days for 52 months we're some numbers rapid

for 10 years that's time for 10 years that's I talked about and I'm thinking that I've been

some 10 patients diaries in those that he's there's around 20,000 people.

20,000 people, a little more, making the calculations, are like 20,000 200, 21,000

people, to the she saw, and to have access and they was doing docile.

Not they're doses of that you do you do you do you go to go to

other world, but you go to you know, but they're doses, because

there was there, there, there, patients with in the that's, that not going to

do that. So, that they're not because to do what was the way in the way in the

disquited, and no they discovered Paco. Accelerable simply the mortality of the people.

After passed 10 years, until a doctor and he said, oh, why is it

was a person, what's what's going to what's what's going, they're in count,

and nobody suspected of Margarita because Margarita was their problem of the

divorce, but all they were that was a good a of a after that

they were she was she and all versey corralada of that they're they're

they're in the area of the medicine in the pharmacy and it

and it took a dose and there and there he's in the hospital.

The history not there because all people thought

well then then then they then passed to make a more

but the but the mooters, this, they're going to or in

the only should be the problem yeah resolved. Yeah, not the personer

that was the type of situations, but the murders still were going to

with the same characteristics that that Margarita had made. So,

tell the story, that one one one a patient gritted a,

so, that he alarmed much, they were, cori were the doctors to

be and they've seen a one an emperer administra administer

administering medicament to the patient a person a person with the

attuend the clothes and the uniform antiv and that when

when the person disappeared so they they're they're they're

they're they're they're what's that's what they're so what they

could do you do you the director of the hospital was to

start and clausur the the piece where occurred where's where Margarita and the

place where it was it was on it's not a other piece no other piece oh, oh,

his life fidate that, no, I don't know if it finally the clausuror

on the piece and and at a little time the apparitions of Margarita and disappeared

after that just that you yeah yeah passed. Well, before

of what I want to I want to say one I admire and respect much

the profession of doctors, and inferred, paramedics, persons that really have this vocation to serve.

But there's a great. And Marguerite was top. Yeah, it was very well.

Yeah. But there's also a very, very little number of people who standing in

these instances, many times private or of the government, they don't do their

job well even. Even there moments where they're

on negligences that cause cause fall of persons so

two months if I'm two months I'm I'm

realizing the post and I'm and I know a person

that he said he said I'm he said but he said for

favor, no you don't know. So, then it was in the state of

Veracruz. Okay. Cerquita. Serquita of where I'm that's person

is a thing to be a person. I had had been a much time.

Yeah. I said that this is a hospital private. Okay. Not is of the

government. But that of a repent people to do practice. Students,

universities, universities, that are, and, they have to do a determined time of

service. Passed one a occasion that normally I was I'm

dedicated to them I was the record for the hospital the where

was where I was a consultor this and the other when I

was attending even when I was I was I with

women that were to they were they were they

were they were like observators. Something incomoded for the mamma's that they're going to

have a baby for the family. But I did that. I started to know something. I'm

said. Between the people, one occasion and I gave a group of young.

And there's there's a group of young there was a seniorita

that since I did you I don't be of spiritual but you see when

there when there a person that you cause like a sensation a sensation

a rar a mal vibra sure I think never had passed but I thought

but I thought that maybe was a thing about my imagination and I try to all guys

I'm I know I said my job I I'm I'm

the recorried the the utensil or I don't know and I don't know

so how they don't know all the other with those they

have operations incisions all and this youngcita she was looking

but he had a rarer in his eyes you could you could feel like

incomodidid like that you perturvable a little if the right your mind of her

like they were they were like so like you feel these

these much chos had as a regular to access to the hospital

they were their mochila and only they'd access to enter with a

type boutiquein little where they have things personal even

they could get a lunch and they they were in those casillers

and they were but this much always always I

said I did you look that that always inside

there there was a box that was that I always

like a fras like a kind of that's it's it's

it's it's it's it's that they're to bring the and the

people and the people had to be transparent for the security that had

the hospital of the not they were to get to get or they or so

they're to they're so they're so they're always I'm

that there was something was covered with a

little a box and let's his lunch we we're

let's let's let's let's the time. I still yeah

capacit to these people and there were moments I remember

that's the thing you imagine how there's a chirofano

after to attend to a woman that gave to the I

do no but me I'm I say there

there there there there there and there many things

colors colors I know I know there there

there there like a bandijita where are all the tools

that's that's the doctor and then it's going and then there's like a boat

where they're going to all the residues I think I'm maybe I'm maybe I'm maybe I'm

that they call R residues biologics or something there's a description that me did

the real the fact me to the for the people who doors but it's

but it was like something of residues and dangerous infectious or

residues or residues dangerous, or something, that have a symbology and all those

deseches like the of the body human going to they're in a place where they

go and they're in one occasion, they've passed and they've kind of

the scene of the chirofano and many of the students

were like impacted but this seniorita was like

was like was I saw that I saw

more. It was, but like I was observing. After this, we went to we went to

we're going. We had a little bit of a comedorcito and there is the cafeteria no? If you

your lunch, you're you're a little. And I said to the guys, I'm going to

attend here some issues with the chief of the chief of the people,

you're all right to come to come to come to come the camilla, pardon,

they're going to clean let us go on the well, well, it's

there, pass the a rato a little time, and get this person is a

infirmer to the cafeteria and there were the people and there relaxiating

but there was a person and this, this much chita the chica

the chica that she that was a mal spina and they and they

they and your company where is Veronica. It's called Veronica.

I don't know, no, I'm when we're when we when we didn't know

we've seen in this moment he said she when they were in the chirofano was like

looking something she regress to the chirofano still not even not

not yet didn't not get those camillers to change the sabannes and

these doors have like some ventanitas circular and says

I came and not I'm the door I'm I'm

to look and I see that was this this she

with his mochilita that always they opened and

he was recogient restos the residues residues of placent

of the restos of the person of the person that's

that's he was putting to a a frasco that precisely was like

a frasco of mayonnaise a frasco of vidry he was about he was taping

the end and I'm and I'm and said I'm made so me so I

don't I don't I didn't I think to say probably we're going to say

we're going to say we're probably probably it's a student that a more to give

a must study in a laboratory I don't know well

pass the what I'm what I'm he's that he did he did that

every more and that's and that kind of he started to be normal

because yeah I said I can't help to help to the camillers

I can't I yeah yeah I was and always the

people said that they They'd like to So, that He recoged a little of what

was in the piece in the charola and he was to get a to the frasco

and so he was to do you do that the final of the turn or at the final

of his stardia they they were and they they were to their and they're

but this muchach she ever always always came for a passillo

that at other extreme of the hospital that you get a

a but a emergency that's that's she's that's there's

but in a occasion this this and she starts and she does

know that when she was a man I was a a

well a well a well and there and I

observe and he he was he he gave a

a man a woman that was there was to to see her regularly

and he said to see her and he saw he he said, I don't he was in an occasion

decided confront her and he said I'm I did that you you're taking moustras

to who you're to give you see I see I saw very nervous and started

to tartamode and the the only that me said there was that there was a person

that he had he those restos for to work. You say,

well, the first you imagine is a chemico, or a person who is doing about a

little bit more something. So, about the cellulas are good for many things.

And he said the man, no. No. No, it's not not a

professional in the health. It's a woman. What? How

is going to be a bruce? It's is a woman. This she

She said a to my family I did a I'm confronted

and when she knew that she was to me said

that he was to get to try to

bring to have to have with with with

rest and even he he confessed that that

had there were moments where women had a involuntary and she had a

baby and she had in these frasks to this this man to make bad

said when I'm I'm I'm in shock that's that's not normal

no and I and I start to to get to this little that's not

ethical that is in contra of a code and she starts

to and he's to disculpire and me says that my family is suffering much and she

he did the damage me said that if I did this for a time he would I

to join these restos she was to retire the maldition of my family says

Paco and I'm for now is a woman but to what I'm

with this anecdote because not is this anecdote pass many things

there's other there's things that a sometimes are very common

it's like not that and it and it that the things

bad are in the places in but you don't

you know you does you know that even even

the place that's simple like in a hospital

where where where can can't live where no

occur nothing and I remember very very well something that the attention is why recurren

to this? A lot of a mann't a salute to the doc that also they're a person

that's a doctor that has been with us in the podcast Yeah I record his story

because when he he starts to discover a bruchas in the hospitals and

he's to get the confidence of them they they're they're

to ask them they I ask that, for favor, me is the product not

terminated of a woman, the same. So, he says, no, I'm going to do.

And it's for that even he was being being persegid for a girl. And for

so when he came the first time, he covered his rostro. Yeah.

Because he said that a woman he would and he said that he said,

the and the Aterrador and what I I think that we'll never to know is with what fin

occupied these rest. I mean, we know that's for brugheria but no we know how it's a

ritual and specifically for what? Just we know that are for the imagination of

the people. And is that imagine to see the chick, the chica, it had been

been able to be to be to do this. Because there is a code

in the doctor, doctors, and the doctors, codos that they prohibit

to get or have this type of bad practices and incurring in one even

even from your service that you are starting I think I think

that there really there really there was a yeah yeah so it

had been very very very desperate and I talk because

my my daughter when in that when in that had

eight eight years had had one studying medicine. She wants to be doctorate. And, well, yeah they're going to do their practices

in the hospital. Here there's a hospital where is the faculty of medicine and the head of an hospital where there's, there's a, there they're a lot. As far as they're not able to do. And the second history is, it's

a focus on that area of this hospital, there's a zone of pediatria. From here, from Monterey. Yeah. Yeah. And there of pediatria where they're the first-nacides but there are some recently

who are not there are ones who are ones who are ones are very sanitos and there and others who are

with certain problems and effects and they're and they're to care or a intensive

where they're monitoring and check and so that all that's it's that's

it's all right in that in that area in that area of there is there is a

mural infantil a mural a mural very a nubes, a new with bracetos, with

eyes, with, with bock, narisos, a little bit, a newbeer, see, if you can't pass the photo. Can you? Can't pass? If you pass the photo, you see, it's a, a, one of a image tierna, to a certain point. Sure, no, but it's an area

infantil. The detail here is that in the moment of that putio in the mural, started the children of this area to start to, start to to infirmar to that

many kids started to move to go to see a part of that they

paint in this mural they're not they they didn't they were I said they

had changed what were the conditions because one so one you can

get in many things and yeah they're well but

there a moment in that after this picture deton that

there so they're so what the only different or

the only rare is the paint but it's a

picture of a new a new so there so I'm who I'm

one of the one of the one of I'm he said I'm know that

he said that that new has the mouth abirta there have to

the boquita with gasas and with gasas medica because that

that's because that that's chuping the heart and they say no

but we we're we're we're we're not we're doctors, in front of us. We're not. I'm, we're saying,

we're going to tap the boquita with gasitas, with cintas. And I said, well, no, we know,

we're never for, in intent. Well, said, they started to tap the boquita

and curiously or strangely these deses, or these murders, they started to start.

Wow. So, they're, they're that the kids, they're being,

and they're saying, so, so, that's, to the most esceptic,

I'd but, but no has nothing to be. Of course. The of a catas and the

cintas because it's so, because it's like, and they're to come to happen to come to see,

and they're revising the the picture. Oh, oh, no, try the gasas. Tapenle the

the boca. This, and they're taping the box. Ah, no. So, like it's

yeah, but check the picture. So, how is the picture, try the gasitas?

Ah, well, so, like, it's a, a, a checklist of the area of the

area of pediatria, this, although no has nothing to have a thing with

another, but it's a protection additional, for so to say to say for the

babies, well, no, it's not a mind. No, no,

no, not, not, no, no, no, don't, no,

no, they're, they're, they're, they're, but at the moment to paint

it, they're, they're going, the day this, it was, so, not you can

totally, but I think I'll at a little I'm doing photos where the picture how is

how it's the world and see where they've tried to paint but the picture so they're

seeing being being the form of the image and the bockita and it's taped with

gasas and scintas because they say they're saying that if it's he chupa

the the soul to bebes and the one one thing I could think

would be to investigate who was the person or who who are the people, no,

that they came to that's, that's that they could have been that they're like they're

because because many times, and that's I remember various stories,

let's, if I were a person mala and me to cause maldard

I, I'd I'd thinker I'm I'm going to paint a moral

in a place where there's many recently many many

we're we're we're going to make mald. So if were

so that the person that did this mural had other intention, we could

we could say in words resumid that makes that like a

make a look that that's I would I would I don't I don't

I've seen in this moment the mural so I will be right turning

the chapter but what even could be plasmod before the nube

or even in a form or in a form occulted in the or at the nub or atrase

or the or after the of the signer a of some an entity demoniac

that has passed that he has that you do plasman and they're and

when he gets the where they get a life where are the children that get in the

world would be like a me those I'll give me those I'm a person

that has decided to do it with that intention and that's interesting I'm going to analyze that photo because

yeah yeah so you I can't understand in this moment no and he

has a right because you see the image a picture an image an image tientientientia

but but if it's the box a bit important is the It's the mouth.

If you have an open, a black, and when the box, it's when the little the

little the little the little people when the book is form a part. I think that the boca

then makes a part of a symbol, of this symbol that could be that that's that's occulted

and all being to be that effect. I'm to have that photo. Yeah the

people, if in this moment you're seeing there's those comments

an what they can learn they can see they The people, even that have to

have to have this sensibility, there's a description of what you think, of what you have you got to the

conclusion. I don't have seen the photography, but if it's a good idea to analyze it, because

the boca, the boca is fundamental of the because it's the top. Tapan totally the

book with gassitas, with that no see a thing, and yeah. Okay. It's like

the form of that we're just we're we're sure. Okay. Hey, oh,

hey, how it's really, I'm in the maldda of the same. Many times

I've said, infinity of times when I'm about I'm not the demons,

so we're, we're not us, we're those are the people, are the people,

those, those, those who are in maldard and, and, and,

and, they're, they're, they're not, they're, they're, they're, they're not

people very very very very so, the the maldat

that even in us it's important to realize to do this analysis

and say that I'm doing that I'm doing bad that's really family

not is good having certain type of but getting

to this point there there there there there we

talk in a principle okay in the very is that this

thing I was you you're going to you say no

we're to because it's a thing that I interest and because I've heard of

something. Well, this this thing that I'm about the of a

exorcism Paco. A exorcism that's realiso here in Mexico in the state

of Chappas to make this in context, I'm an friend is a friend

very very very many years after a member of a

church, to that in this church, you know, to do things good, predicate the word, and the members of this church, the youngstice, while get to come to the age of 18, 19 years, well, this, they're going to find out of

their houses, for a period of two years, approximately, to predicate the word. To be a mission? Are the missioners? Commonly, most we're going to be there in the case, vestiges of a camisa black,

corbata, this, su gaffet. Yeah, of the The church a mormona. Of the saints? Of the last, of the last, of the last few? Of those days. Of the last few days.

So, then, for the general, they're in a pair of two. Two companions' of women, or two companions, these, who also, and a my

friend of here, well, you know, they're going to be all right. He was doing with his, with his mission, with his mission,

was doing what correct. And he said, that in Chiapas, in a community very humble, very, very humilde. When he

came to have a preparation you, you're going to predicate. And what they have these people are

very serviciales, paco, are very very servicials. I've known, and they're really

are very amables. And not only with the members of their church, with all

the community in general. So, what you need, you need, you, you occupas

a little barred, in what you do you do you. It's people very,

bien, amable. So, then, then, then, they say, they know, went for the case, trying to aborting people for, uh, predicate the word, about the word. And, like all, there are people that are and they're going, or

can't, or they're going to, they're doing, and they're just in cases. And there's more atent, because if... I always said, independently of that you're not, uh, cremate. Creeient. You need to show a respect. So, are people.

And at final you know, in their creencers don't they are doing nothing. No, no,

they're not they're to be able to do you. They're they're in a form, monetarily

not monetarily not, so it's really for the pleasure of doing something. It's

correct. So this is my friend in that he said, in that he and he said and he's and

he went to the car and he, he's trying to talk to bring to he said, it

said, he said, a, a family of two people that were They were going to

and they'd grittable and they're elder Elders missioners missioners Elder's

helpen us for favor need to and they're And they're sure that for that we're going to

we need to what we need to we need us we need to we need to the house and my my friend

he in no moment he said nothing he said oh well I'm going to help

I'm to serve I'm to serve I'm said Paca that

that when when family, was it was a house humilde, this, he plattica

the door, it was that are in those, two, two soh he said, at the

moment of to enter and put the first foot in the house, we

feel a sensation, he said, I've not I've got, he's, of 40

years, 40 years, I've never, I've never, I've never seen

that that something, and then we've then we feel, and then we,

like, like if someone so someone was to be aplanando for that

me to get here we're not we're not we're not well

in the environment very in the house but something something

something or something and he said what we're what we said

and he said the he said the person he's my my

person is my my and said my friend in

this moment this when we it's like, ah, because one

one thing is that they're you're 19 years, they're going to do you're to give the word and

another thing is to make a demonious. It's a preparation that not a in a a semester

or a preparation one has to come for an authority ecclesiastic and two have to be even if you

are apt to do you're able to make sure questions personal not that's

so that's so we're saying we're we're saying I'm like we're getting a

place and I'm saying it still still I'm not not me communicable

with the people and then then 19 years so and then it's my

my daughter and it's my she's in the here you're in the court

we're going to come they're they're they're they're there

and I said the the movie of Exorcism is a short. Yeah.

So, the little disfigurated, the little about so,

the ambient, you know, you know, all the everything, but amplified. So,

mal, and I, I, I said, I said, I said, he said, he said,

he, he asked you, he said, you, you know, because we're

we're with the idea of that you have to know the name of the

demonio to to start them according to the majority we've

we've been in the movies and that's it's a process catholic and he

he said no I'm not I'm not I'm don't know I'm the name

to the demonio just just we we're we're he said

my company he's he said he's he's he not he said

he didn't even never and I he said well we we're we're

we're we're we're we we're doing or so, no, not us

have been what to do, we know we're, says that in that moment,

it's he's to come to call to his president of mission, that would be the

encargated. In every state, there's a officeina and a person encargated

that's the person that's the person for the general, then is a person

adult, of 60, 70 years with much experience, that that,

that has passed for all the processes in this church, a person very spiritual,

very capacitated, and that you know and that's all to all. Dice,

well, the only that we was to talk to his leader, to his leader.

In that then, then they were telephons of the house, yeah, we said

to the family, we're they're doing the telephone, I'm, I'm

to say, passemmmel and, and, communicate me with that person. we've talked about

we've got this problem we're here we're a we're a little and my friend I said I thought I thought I thought that

I'm going to say you're this right I'm I'm a person a person capacited an obispo

someone with experience that should be what should because they were they're because they're they're

not and then he says we know you're you're saying you're not don't think

fear. They're going to do a lotion, they're going to say exactly these words, he says, guardeselos in the head, not las anote, they're going to say exactly these words, and they're going to say amen.

As termination, the one, this, yeah, will be well, you know, you're going to be the moment of what you say exactly the words that I'm going to say amen, and the a little. And if you're going to have to

give to give me a way and get to go to your house. Okay. So, no is that you, go to, or so, irse to couriering to your house. No, they'll be, not see, how is the

little, you know, the little. So, if you're saying these words, so, if you're saying, amen, the nina, will be be able, you. You're going to get to go, and they're going to go to your house, and wait. And, wait, me. Yeah, I'm going to

yeah in your house. And I'm a what I'm my so

what we're so what so what he said yeah he's he called with your

leader about with the family yeah me said what is what

we're going to do you we're going to be a so your daughter

you're not so but at time the time we're we can't

we're we're we're we're we're to get to we're

to get not a minute more And he says that the family, well, so if that's what you have to do, well, so, one oration,

this, no, does it, he says, he proceeded to make the oration, they're saying these words,

exact, I don't, I think, what are you. I mean, I think, I mean, I think,

what are, I mean, he's not, no, no, no, he said, no, he said, no,

he said, no, that's, no, that's he said, no, that's they're, they're, they're made,

a minute, say, of the house, it says, we're like 20 minutes to get to our house.

He said, we're like if we're like if we were going pursuing, we're we're getting

to the house, we we're we're saying the offices where was the leader,

for the he was going to get to get to the state of Chappas this,

they're to say, they're a two hours of distance in car so.

So, so it were almost two hours that were there waiting

to all there's with a lot of quite fear with with anxiety

with incertudum and what he was that was something because they were five

carmionette suburbana so desacred and they get like like presidential

like a political like so in in filita and mission elders

lethers let us say they say they say they come they're they're

out of the people in So, so that was something strange, very, very, very strange. And they got to the offices of this church, where was this leader. And so,

those are all the spaces, this, bendedos, protected. And he said that there they those were in resguards for three days, for that, the impression, this, there they were oning for them, bendicyingolos, this.

There are, says, three days in these offices. he says, I see, I see, I that our president the leader regressor to the house

where they were in the three days that the missioners were in the offices guarded, the leader

regressed to the house of the missioners and said that he was to reprend to the demon that he

was to reprender that not they were to do this missioners, that they were to they were

to be to be a reprender to bendic the house and that not could to talk to

to the elders. I mean, he reprended in the house where they were to say he said he

went to the house of the missioners. Stop. Do you know how fast you were

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they're that he was what I think of courries. Sure. And he

did he did he went to reprender to the demon that he said he was, that he not could

talk to to these missioners that not they could do you do you did you know

I think you did it I think it to say to tell you to say so then they're

on the three days yeah at the moment to go to the office

says that this leader about my friend and he said he said

you don't be you're doing the you're doing it and

they're they're they're they're they're they're they're to take their

activities to try to return to get a calva to boarder to provide the

word and he said well now what what they're now now is now now

now say that said that they're they're to they're

they're they they're they're they they're and at the

door out of the and she culled over us he said thanks of missioners

you're me saved said the she said the yeah was another so the you know

you had to see you had to the environment normal calid is a little

she had to know and we we said we're well we could we could

do we did we did we did it did you don't manches oh me

did you did with that tremendous because I never I've heard

how it's reprend a spirit demoniac in this religion with the

Catholicism I know a little the process they're they're in psalmos

have different asoites botes of aseats of basically all their arsenal

I know how it's in the religion Christian, evangelical. It's a more simple more simple more if you know

if you know or not the name of the demonio the Catholic that they need to say

to ask you ask you ask you I said that's that where I know the exorcisms

dur can a sometimes after eight or 10 15 years and at final the person

terminate not not allows not and you did you and you did

with some some words In some minutes and all you That's what That's what I'm But then

But then you're Those were those Those were Yeah, yeah, I mean Generates a Duda

existential, tremendous to And I And I'm Confio on him And he He me

He me He me He's So, I'm like, I'm I'm going I'm

I'm I'm going Yeah, and I want to know And I'm Yeah,

because I know I'm And I I'm And I'm I'm So,

So, the people that they're away when they're an experience of this type and that you know they're not,

it's because or that no they're not, or that's they're going, so it's so that's those experiences

if they were, oh, I'm going to know, you know, I'm going to get to get to

investigate that I mean, I never me had put to to think in something but now that you

know, if you're this anecdote, if you want to know what are those those

because just like you So, I mean, and in the church Catholic,

there are cases that were various sessions. It were for months, for years, sessions

of two, three hours of exorcism, that no can't, and simply just, and simply,

you know, a person and say, a man, and I didn't come and start interesting

to know to say. And the thing, independently that you start, you're

those were the indications that they were the value of the young-year-year-old. I mean, I remember that

age, and I was still in other things. I mean, no, I was playing with demons for nothing. I mean, is that primarily something that the people that have been in these rituals, we're saying is, a demon, a real demonio, that's taking the body of a person, is a person that you knowce, de-scanea, see the most

profound of your soul be the part vergonzosa of you see the

part the part the part of you know how destroy

you just just with something so I imagine

it's impressive the value of two chavos of

19 years if confront to a demon because

no and only in a community in a community

in the middle of... Is that if they were... If they were done to say what... If they were been in risk because they're

brutally... Uigh, overpassed in all the sense. But, if I'm really,

what impressive history. I think, like I, much people, also I'm that said, those words,

what are, because if there are rites, that the sacerdoters, exorcists, Catholic have

some books and I remember that I know I know I'm a person who was a

person who was a exorcists for all Mexico in Latin America for a series

of television he took to talk with and say they said they're they're

they're little libritos with orations very very very fertes

orations that you're going to find in any other

other and that to they're impossible you're you have to

a access to one of these probably would be one of these for so he said no let's you know it's learnetel

let's say did it yeah yeah because there are people who have interviewed to exorcists

and they say let us a oracet one no no we can let me say no no no no

no so is what that is what me does that make to start more my curiosity here no of

no we don't we don't know we can't say, that's information that has been to be resguarded and I think I'm like that would be

something. So, then yeah it's a criteria of kind of how you're doing? Oh, well

good, this, what's the story? Yeah, I don't want to, I know,

stories, are an anecdote, is an anecdote of an anecdote of an anecdote, and you tell to so rapidito

that he said that he passed, what he was, in Chiapas also, he vivied, in front of his house,

was a person of a church and in a other, this pedacito, other, of the three religions different

convivian in this certain in the same quadra. So, then so every in the thing is all

good, we know, we're we're doing so much, every person, nobody we're making with nothing,

all perfect, right? He says that one once, when they're to get to his family

of front, the, that were of a church a, if me said pastor, obispo,

no-se what, he said they're all in a circle. And if we were

because they were there, they were at the house abired, they're

they're all in a or a question, but in the middle of this

circle was a a woman, and she was sitting and

they started to make the person, the woman began, he said,

no, you know, he's, so, he was, he said, was Levittant. They were they

to do what was in the circle. When they were the woman was going and she was going to be

going to be the oration the woman was made like without this and the and the most

strange is that you know we're going we're going so it's something like it's something

so I'm like I'm I'm saying but I'm said but he said that was the religion

was that me said me he said so I'm so you're me sent us. I think because I was

I was like I was like like it's like like it like it's like it's to get to get to

see we're we're in morning and yeah for the people who think that the time to levita

is impossible and investigate one of the last exorcism that realized

the father fortea and you're going to know that's

impossible if if you can if it is possible so it So I, with this

I want to say that there are occasions, many occasions and in those occasions I'm in those occasions

I'm where the reality supera the fiction where the exorcisms that we've been plasmoded in movies

of terror if they're shortos at a side of an exorcism real, of a person

posseida then it's a thing very very very very And it's also because the person suffers much

Yeah, yeah, sure. It's, this brutally assotable for this demon, for the entity that has in their body and

are things very delicate also. No, don't look. No, no, don't look

this type of things because there people that in the to know more, they're to learn

things prohibited, to recital orations that not are good, to talk to

deities that they don't have been good intentions and in this affan of this

buskid can have serious consequences with this message we're we're

we're we're really family if you know that that good

that well that has not has not passed no force the

things and not those and you know you

know what can you can you if you if you

you that for many, more than to be a story, they've been with a trauma and live with with a fear

and they're not going too. They're not. Some people who are people who just like you just like you

express it because it's to be revivial and it's what they're what they're so. So,

tremendous talk, grand stories and you can't record your social? Sure,

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they want. Many thanks. Thanks, dear man. Thanks to the audience that also get to this

point. You know, that I can't be those who are the episodes. Let me

a great a brother, thank to those were here with us here with us presentes.

Thanks for let us to be with you to come with you, thank a

a great Abrazo and we we're seeing more in a next episode passen

a bonito until the next to the next bye bye