EXTRA ANORMAL - Historias Aterradoras vividas en Retiros Espirituales | Entrégate al Señor

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco y Oscar nos narran historias aterradoras vividas en retiros espirituales. Desde presencias extrañas hasta eventos inexplicables, descubre las historias que te harán dudar de lo que sucede en estos espacios de introspección. ¿Qué se oculta en la búsqueda de lo divino? 🔮 No te pierdas este impactante relato y suscríbete para más episodios de misterio y lo paranormal. #ExtraAnormalPodcast #HistoriasDeTerror #RetirosEspirituales #Misterio

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that phrase that that person and that God those quid Bola

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What I'm going to be able to be able to be a What a podcast extra an normal. My name is Paco Arias and I'm very happy to be with you. This occasion, family, we have a theme very interesting stories that

many people have been because for what I know is something that is a little so you

have seen in the miniatura in the title of the episode we are to talk to talk

of stories anecdotas that have lived people in these retiros spiritual

for this time me my good my good friend Oscar Gerber

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this part yeah in a little time it's then then

after done the a a ask oh car when

when I think the word I'm I'm I'm

I'm you have to live you you have

it's The typical phrase that you say in some the young but of they're in reason. You have

been in some retiro? Yes, one one only only only only only only

we were in a place called if no I mal recall roca that's

here in Oaxaca it's like that's close of Porto Scondido I'm

I'm I'm I'm a zone private the fact the fact is that

the place was a really many are the different to those we're

accustomed to see here in the port of Veracruz that are a little more more calms for there there are places

where there's even even to surfier and it's a lot of many many cabas in that

in that in that then I'm not so you know and the place generate

this contact with the natural contact spiritual so there passed many

things quite very not you no no no contrary

I I kept with much amistances that's then and the only

the only the only queja that I'm is that in the time we're in the

alabance in the adoration there was a person who never

has always and we're we're we're and you know

you know you know you're you're you're you're you

and you know the way a brand I'm a brand that I'm a brando

I'm I'm but practically me sapeo. He went, he was able to me, he gave a

blow in the stomach and then he started for me, that more than I'm so I'm calented,

like, because you're like you're like you're part of the ritual, no? Much of the

people have these forms that's raras not, to minestrar to the person I think to Jesus

not would this, no, that was violent in that certainly. Of the

actually, well, I'm I also as a person that I've stood in many years serving in

the Catholicism also I've told my experiences into of retiros and the really my

experience was very, it was very good. I don't something, because many times

in those places, but not you top to get a young, that form part of

the group of the young of the people, so are are young that many

many times, well, practically they're to be obligated. So, you can say obligated

for part of their parents because his papas now they don't they want to they want to

they're a conversion. I want to start this episode, contand a story that

not is a greatable. The story is the name the creature. This he passed to

a man Monse in the year 2008. The title me he left thinking,

why the Creatura? And right you're going to know why. She said that I'm

a part of a school Catholic, but that never, never had been, well,

she participated of something like a return. I used, she had had some movements

juveniles, but she never was she was in this school merely because his

papas were very religiousos, but And the good is that was it was a school

very very and in a moment they were to have a

return of the young of three days and starting the

Wednesday on the after the time so his

companions were entus because they had to get she

she didn't go but she was obligated for

his father so so at the return was

done in a part of the house of the

church, where, well, it's a salon, practically, that's that's behind the church, where there were some convivio, there were a cancha, there were some quartit, but there other brothers, missioners, that she said,

that she said, no, we'd have them to, he's a reference to a place that's more because they have to disconnecter of all. They've got in contact with the naturalness,

for that they can't find this side spiritual, Bejose of the city. And she was like, it was like, it was like an hotel very bigo, that was in the middle of the nada, subbingoes, that had various, like, cabanitas, and there was going to do, it was a retiro. It wasia. It was a lot of day was spectacular. There were neblina, asia, it wasia, there were a cancha of basketball in

middle, and around were in these cabrains, where had, was divided the side of the right-and-the-the-the-out-the-the-out, the other side, dormia, the other side, dormia, barons, and And this side, dormia the women.

He said there there were litters and they were practically four people per

quarter. There are two litters of these that's that's that they have

up and she was a little a little because not used to be

out of her and over and over totally constantly to be constantly

to be doing this. She thought in a principle that he was

to talk to do to do this surprise. Since before to

start to start groups, because one of the one of the dynamics

was that they were that you know, then the chister not was to live

with people that you know, and they start to put with

other young, with other women, and he took

to do do with kids that in the school that

were they, they're people they had had of the

nada. They started to do some dynamics to know some in can't in cancions

alasas there were the people who were the people responsible of the

people people who were doing and they all very very good all very beautiful

but there was an indication that said the sisters superiors

said this this place this place in this place in this

we have done the Where two or more stay, there will be there. But I'll say something. No,

don't see more than the casas to campar that are, because it can be dangerous. Well,

eventually are in a place in a place in a mountain. Sure, there were

perigros, felinos, or animals salvages. So the day, it was a day

very good, a day where did you meditating, or rando. And at the night,

she comment that the place not a great. She sent in an place

very and you see that and you see that and you know, you know,

there was there was very poor energy electric. Before of this, they had

had had been their performances. Very little young in that

then sometimes used telephones cell phone cell very very

little. Not they were so They were accustomed to but they'd they were things

like games or cards or something. And there was a moment where they were

to hear out of their house, of their cabna, like a animal

that was round and they were not really very and very curious. The

hermana superior left in the can't the can't expu to the

Santissimo he was and he putia after the misa to

this that and it was a half of the patio. Some responsible

they said that this was not like protection. But protection of what? So,

in that occasion, there were young of all. Persons that were obligated,

persons that were religious and first was a very rare. From the

side of the young, there was a person, a young that was

a person, and then the He's out of the quarter to the night

and he's back to campar, where they've said, no, not you know. This young

is more there's more to start to consume his drugs, pass the hours and his companions

and they're to be concerned because not back. After a rato very long this young

gets going to get to the door to start, was very astounded he was

very alterated they thought that maybe he had passed of the substance but at

all, when they're in mind that in the pecho the the plier had

had like a beast an animal with garras he would have had arrancated

part of the the plier with the was full and they said what you

said what they're they're they're they're they're they're they're

And he said, what occurred? And you know, is that the companions to confront them, they said, no,

well, is that's he said, he's he's transes illicitas, and she

went, and the mother's and said, I said, I said, that no they were

more than we're not we're to be able to repeat that. At the morning

the morning next, were the father of this young, unfortunately not

passed to a major but but he had a head in the beech superficial, and the rumour

so began to gore. So, no, they'd have been, some said that funos, others said that had been like a felon. But there was a leader of young, that had been a while, and I had a rato to be there, and they said, no. What he attacked

to that young, no, was an animal, or no man. If you're, they'd be it, and if there were moments where they'd say, they'd say, they were to a Pozo to sack

water, they're to do to do that they're like some there

they're going to go, no will be going to not. And what

what is that in this area was a area where our

other were in sacrifices and it was a place

that even before to get to the place to before

was done the the area it was a

part because our antipasasos, protectian their and they were in

one of those tantas invocated to an guardian that I was going to this area.

When came to the church, the people and some people, students that

were to do you want to people, they were they said that they they were they were

and they they were and they they were and this vestia so every that they

do they make in retires so vendice the zone and it's we're saying the saintissimo

what is what he gives a protection to where we're the problem is that more the problem is that is where they're running that

the legend the young they're very scared they're much because they've seen one of those

some of those very bad but some they're not it's not it's because they don't

want that we're because there are these pairjitas that they were

to retire, the novio, and they'd and they were to go to go to the mountain so you

know, so they're thinking that it's it's a way, there's people who

people who people who people that they were, but this chica was had much

fear because she was she was she used was, let us the animal

very great that it was that I'm around to do roundines to

these cabes a night she no could be to be

to sleep, she seemed very alterated, she wasom again

and I'm again, and I'm there's a little bit of a little bit of

a little bit of a little bit of a question, she had a question that one

of his company and he says, where you and he says, is that

I'm going with Peter of the nobio we're going to say, no,

no, no, you can't say, it's what you what he passed to that

that's a manch, no. That's a minute. It's not for that you get with him. And at all time, we're going to

go to get us to go to give us to do love. The companions intend to say that not it that was dangerous

that independently of the legend, there were animals there, no, there were culebras. But, well, you

know, the young, the man's got to see to see with this a man for the

cancha of football and they went. She's she kept to wait to see

what we can't do you know a half hour passed around 40 minutes passed one

one hour passed two hours passed three hours and again

again she repeated the little getting to get this she's

she's mal-er- and he asked that what had passed she

no respond. The only that said, Pedro, he's kept. He's kept for that he occurred. In that moment he back

again the mother superior, a question that what happened, and he did a moment

that some young that one of the permitted, they're to get to logic to look to

to look at this muchach to be, but nobody he said. No,

the responsible and the young leaders, nor the brothers. The only that said we're

we're all to interceder and if the creator seapiaed of him, that no the only

that put it is to put it's to raise no they're more. And it was then that Monce

did count that that that that was a whole a legend. Not that was a

whole a legend. Really there really there was something that they know

that they were practically the guardian of the zone and that And even I felt it as an invasion that were religious to do their practices there.

At the menacear, they always were at 6th of the morning because they went for water to a pozo. They'd benaw. And they'd start with the misa at the 7 of the morning, adoration, and they'd in dynamics. And all in the morning were asked for the noviour of this chick. That fortunately, he'd found out of the

posse, but was inconsistent. He was like a little he said he had occurred he was a mal-eried.

Van his parents, they're they're and they're doing, and Monsee, passed the

last night of the creature that was there was there was real, and that was that was

molest because they had got to do different practices and he still being being

in theory the guardian It was invocated, and there's and they're doing the day of today retiros spirituals there. And the indication

always is, no, you know, you're going to go to the protection, where they're exposed the Santissimo,

but more there is your responsibility. No manches. I see. I remember much to a story that

we told us a time, no, I don't remember if you, I was you, who I,

he said, that you're, that, he said, that mentioned about a church that was made

in a place that was also a but for other people. Other practices and I and I remember

much that the people or the father, the father of that I was that said

I don't not us that had to be much with the that had used

they had used for their practices spiritual that not had to be in that then or in

that history that had to be with a demoniac simply was a time where this

this country was parteney to us and not you'll you know exactly the same

exactly. It's not that it has been, well I'm trying to interpret as an an attack

demoniac that is there is, but it's, after years this territory he pertenceo and

so, and they did do they're there protectors, who is the kind of who

invade? They're are doing their chamba. So, sure.

That's good. I was a time was in a congress to be to be in

the moment of the alabance to and it and it was a very peculiar

and I want to get to this. Some people with the

talk about mention that in this moment of adoration saw

they saw a a where we we're that we went to

a door lateral and this so it's very curious because we're in the

house of a time we're in the event and we we're talking for the

coffee and the pizza and you know that's yeah it's

when is this story that says one of they say what you what happened

is that I'm that I went to the door later and

it was it was like a monster He said that He said that came Ergid that

was being arastran and his rostro was disfigurated but this no he caused

a fear and he caused a little a little a little he was used to

live this type of vivences spirituales the really I was never

never had seen something of this or had heard something

that that that that's that said and says

that the scenario this thing and that he's he got he's

he's he's he's he's he's when he he put the hand

in the coat and the he's he's a lot of and this I'm I'm

so we're talking and we don't know to be a tonality much more much more

and he says he's he's the in the story or in the suceso

when he when he starts the notes and he starts And he starts and like

he embraces the same and he's he's got in-cated and he says the story of this thing and he went

one of the chas with the kids that we were with the we're talking she put to and she

was she was in the part of the back and said I mean I think there's a

weird and he he's up to go to he was he was he was he was

he was I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm when I'm

And when I see that Carlos starts to come to say, what's like, what's what's going,

what's happening? And yeah, like, they're to do this, but many

of them had this perception spiritual of what that's I said, I'll

see nothing. What me was that was that two stories in parallel

coinciding and the that was there was there was a moment when I started

when I started a lot, I'm a much peace, I began and I was

when I inke and I think was like it's like it's like it's like some things that they're

going to do with these events and I know the attention what you say there's there's

there's people who they're to make to these these events I'm here a man

of the Chalooh Alacche Alacche Perz went to like the church

now is a now is a great friend and what are the things

he he came he came as a invitation of typical case

of the child that's a carriado and the other than the church

was the he's he's he's going to do you do you do you

do you have a story that is very contrary to to the I'm

to the people to man for obligation this is the

story of Andrea Andy a a sustologist she

said she she and it's very interesting at

final there I let's I let's I had

15 years approximately when she said this. She was. She was of a family very, very Christian. Or is? Result that

from very little, they inculcated these values, these creences, and year-con-a-one-law they were to send down of their congregation. All normal, all tranquil. Papa, mom, very arraigated to these

creences. Even she mentioned that he liked much the fact of being in the congresses, because I'd more people, passed more time with his friends with those

who had grown with those that's but in the moment of the adoration of the

alabance she was she said he's he's he's the moment

see a person that not should be a there and he

he and he and what he was going to start the eyes

he said he he's his his hands around and

he he this person more more to was

his abelowel, that hasia much time had fallen. But what he intrigued about is that for

these creencers is that one can't be to be there to the mortals. Sure, the vots don't know.

Exactly. Well, in that credence, no I do you? In that this creencia

so she's managed. Then she a little inquietta she came with Marta,

one of the leaders that was there was there was there and he said,

and he's he said, and in the moment of the adoration via my abel. And Marta

he says what happens is that we're in a moment where we're much more

more sensible to the thing spiritual but remember that we when we

this type of things is more the contrary to what we're because

probably God is doing something of what whatever because what

did the Bible and he said there's there the article

that the the devil is the part of the

and he and he he's that when he

he and because in reality is Satan that

he he wants and yeah she got a

little because she she had approximately 10 years

when his family so imagine to that so

I'm just trying to your abel you're in a communication spiritual and of

you know and they they're saying that's the that's the that's that's and that's

but and it and it's the event and all this was all this was

in the moment of the adoration that is when she he was to intrigue

because that's my abel my abel no yeah gets

the night, and he's with the abuel. He says that he's a place where they're

that's something like to say, I think they're to put in a quarter to put the letter's,

he says, he's, he's and he says, and he says that's there and that never

will be to be a spantada, she put to and he to cry, and he starts

to know, and he says to God, that he's to do this, no? At the

next another in the night, yeah to get the moment

of the adoration and he says that he open the eyes, he'll

and then of his mind, perceive that his his abel and it's in front

of her. Wow. He he, and she, in the other to

get to start a and he starts to reprend and he starts to say

let's in the name of Jesus. And he and he says that he comes to

see that a lot of people around of all the young of the people who are there. In that

Martha's he says, and she's what's going to and she's all of them and they're they're

and they're to reprender. She gets to the floor. She's is all right the people

the people, the leaders are trying for her. Imagineate all this locura to pass

a moment a moment a moment to a moment perhaps terrorifico like a person

of 15 years He's Persuadida For what is Satanus And he says And he said

That the people That was He said It was very Very similar To the spirits Malignus That were

There's a Moment Talves Tragico We'll call it The event And here Is where

I like The history Because He's back And he He said His mom A Ectory

Amari Vial Vial the old. Don Fernando was father of Hector. And the

same. You don't know days to believe in this, the mortals no return.

Exactly the same and however, he's quite with the intrigue. Wulva to know

to know with the abel and he said, I don't go to I'm going to

get, I will be here. They're going to visit to Don't Eugenia. And in a moment where Ector

is there the cell She said, she'll her old. Oh, you, fichita, what's the

whole of this. And Do you know, he says, that your abuel you're doing. Something

something to what they've said. And she, but is that I don't think in that me

me, me to know, I'm saying, the fact that you don't think you don't say,

that you know doesn't to do you to doel. In that he's, enter Ector, and he's

he's, what tonted you're what tonted is saying, And they're there with a, like, with a discussion. He's a piece to alterer of why his mother

he's to teacher other things that are in contra of their own their own their own. So, they're going.

And this all he'll inquietta a, Andrea, but, I don't understand what's going to why my abuela

me says this, because my dad me says this, my mom, too, is in contra of what they're on what they're

saying. He said, he says, to her mom and he says that's the last time that you

do you this is this to my daughter because you're she's because you're

she's she's she's that this is that is so real as the

you think you even you have doubt of your own your

and pass the time and he said Andrea that

she she went to her and however no he

didn't not to her she she she still

professing the faith Christian and she seeing a

people that that He's Cueh to the other but she

not he said At the final of the letter she says that my

mom and in his my mom and in my father me still

my doing my my my father Hector Mure

after after the event Besteia and he still continued

contact with both and in the church no mention

absolutely nothing in the Correo, for a temer that he's no,

clear. But now the papa is in the father's in the house of to say,

my daughter, I'm saying, my I'm going to be and I'm really, and for

that I want to tell you, for that I'm a manned a idea, so that's

there's that's anonimus. Yeah, it's it's something that's something I've been having,

he said that his abuela this is the resum of what he made in the history but he said that his

abolita he mentioned that this is a don't and that he has to be and that they

have seen the things and that they're saying that they're my unidad clarimidensia the

the ver mortals that are so so those his ancestors and

his familyaries yeah she she she's that she's that

that she think that that in these creencers God has permitted that

so his abel or the spirit of his abel or the spirit of his father. That's what.

Fiatte that I take a story that is the story of Laura and Victor.

It's a story anterior that I told is a a roteer a Catholic this is

a Christian but it's a retreat for matrimunios. They decided

opportunity to go to this movement because these retiros are a place for restoration and sanation of

the matrimonies that are going to difficulties, faults of communication and the reality is that the

the matrimon of Laura and Victor was he was very bad and they were and decided

to give to give to give to give to see they could rescat their love

that in the moment there and they started to prepare to assist to this

the place. The retiro waspicear in a place aparted, in a parted, of the routine, for, well, to be away those to all, no? To get to the routine, and enfocars only in

God and in his matrimonial. They were charlars, they'd conferences, they'd predicated the word of God, those concedureers that are to help and serve. But it started something that Laura

started to call. Laura started to feel a bad but no

describe a person a kind she was she

didn't uncomfortable at the first were little little

details like insomio had these attacks of anxiety

and I felt strange at being in that

one one one one one so he was

so he saw that there had a person

in a corner of his corner. For context of the people in these

retires of matrimonial, the people think that doormen with their but no. No,

it's so. Dormen women and the intention is that is that

is that is that this last of to get to your partner,

with your husband, and she and she being in her

and I'm to say, or to have more said

that in the the there was like something that's moving, that was

there and she was trying to focus and see he'd know that was a

silhouette of a woman that was a woman and she was there was a

and that was a and that's started like to be to and this

I was a casta some little hand and cut a

carted the liston and the liston like that started

to sangran and she well, I don't understand because he was going

and there was a confusion because she thought that I'm thinking but

the same time was so real that she and she said I don't

I can to tell to my spouse because I don't care to

we're we're so we're so I don't I want to

create a conflict but I'm past the time and she

began to voices that were to come from from the mismissim

infirno. He said that were voices that were more clear, more clear and she

gave to think that her mind was he was playing and he started

to be a lot to say probably probably something something that's

happening for this change that I'm trying to and

he started opacar this that that the voices

every were more more more more and they repeated a phrase

that no I'm going to hear textuality is your matrimonial is, your matrimonial that's

not really his matrimonial will terminate so she she's she's to be because

she was a thing spiritual she had a little of the thing spiritual

but the rare is that his husband was her husband was her He was in the activities that

were seen in these convivences, but he was a good. It was like he not, no, no, he'd never, but she'd call about

all what was going to. And it was, in one time when it was the most very, the

most aterrador, it was at the nightseer, when they in the middle of, let's say, a lavance,

she's adorando to God. Laura was there, was with his husband, Victor,

and of moment to another, Laura started to have changed physical. The people that came to see them.

Describe that your rostro was like the person of an person absent. No,

was it. But first started to tremble. Something normal, he probably the presence

of the Spirit Santo, was talking something something in these people,

that the people start to start, and she's to start,

but she transmitted something of that was full of something, if it was

like being posseid for a negative, he was to tend to get to be a contortioned

his body, she came, and he started, and the people, the people, the leaders,

the pastors, and the same Victor not knew that was going to some members

are they to her to auxiliar but Laura in that moment he had a

force, force sooban and they they'd know that what was

going with she was not a more than a person

she she and he he started to her to

help and he he said no me to but with

a voice very a very wrong and she

and it's when everyone does know that actually

they are in a person to a person

in this When they're in this type of things, normally the people have to close the eyes,

and they're to start a order, to make a car of an oration because what they're

being, because all the is the manifestation of a demonio. She started to say,

Dime what has done, he's done, he's done, he's done, vociferate, directly

looking to his husband, but Victor was in the piece, no said, what was that was

The people, the testigos, not could concentrate so in the oration because it was a moment where this person demonstrated to have force and know things and like

the leaders at the same time not they were to confront her because she impone a much of that woman. There were moments

where someone in some moment of the group is, and he intents to or her and she said a phrase

that that's that this anecdote this phrase is they're that

they're that they're they're both me pertaince this

obviously he's alerted much the people started and

they're they're they're they're they're and is when the

husband the pastor he he's he he's to ask

questions for this point they're to a hisposa, to a

quarter a little more private to continue reprending the entity that was there. And they start to

ask questions to Victor, like, you've been doing, or have done, or have done,

and they're and they're, no. No, and she, and I, but he went

a moment where he recorded something, he said, well, we're not,

but I took a a pair before to casar me with Laura, Karina

she and her family had different creencies and practicable things very strange. The fact, the bula

of Karina the person to do do the people to dogeria to, let's, let's live

people, they were to do things bad when I decided to romper my relation she

me said first that no, that was taking a mal a mal decision

I was sure of to clear to but it was when she

me amazed and he said you you're to remember

to have I'm after and after two months he

he starts he formaliz they they they and

he's when he he he he probably probably come

come like a work of a thing for

his ex-p this this relato termin that is written by him, for Victor, says, my spouse,

commenced to vomit when they were making his liberation, after she dismayed, the little that Laura recall, before the start, is that was

in a place of the world of which she not could say, that was when the entity was taking her body.

He said, until that opened the eyes, was where she was to remember, who was

who was I remember that that's that came for part of Karina. Those ex

no manches always we're talking of this of people that was a near or is

a family yeah terminate doing work never I don't

understand to my part how you you that a person

so kind of or you want to you want to you and it's

it's too egoista also the fact that you're that's invululcrant a

other person imagineate poorsita Laura no she's she didn't see

well for the information no he did nothing no no

he's nothing fiat that I think I think I think

we we're when we we're when the people say is that the magic is

really is a middle you do you say it's we're we know we know we

there, those consequences of using it to use it in a way, especially to

do you know, because really the intention is for, for sanar, but when they're

the pieces in a form contrary, occur in this type of situations. And fortunately, your

relation did you mehoreau, if there was a negative that had that had

that had had been problems, but unfortunately they were right that said

that said that that did that the magic I I mean I remember much

in a conversation that we've also about the intentioned that they can get to do because even

even after an oration to the whole-poweros could terminate in a tragedy for some of

the story of the prophet Elisio when they are they and he's he's a invoking to

Jeobah and Heovah manda a manned to give him four and two young, 42 youngs

who had been burlado of him that at final he was a prophet no and

doing on a side the theme spiritual, the fact that's a man

that had a man that he had a and he did a God, he said it. That's in the

Bible. Busken the Elisho and those the 242 young. That's that is so.

It's intentional. Yeah. At final he used for vengeance. No, man.

Oh, that's feo, if they thought that I'm going to have to Rapspar

Moble today, here we're Fiatte that there's a story like what we're talking about about the young that

they're coming for obligation to these retiros. No, no, I was a child of English. I was even very happy.

I mean I liked much to the congress. I mean. I'm very me really much. I know much I know much

a lot of people that's interesting. This story the manned Rodrigo, but here Rodrigo mentioned that

no, let us name and he he changed the name, valid the

redundancy to one of his his one of the person with him with this

history. We're going to put Diego. Diego. Yeah. Diego I was

in the adolescence and the contrary of the story that I

did I don't to let them to the consres to the retires, uh,

a, Retiro, Cato, Retire, Cotolico. Okay. A he

no, he liked this, and I mentioned Rodrigo, in the Correau that always

questioned his papas. Diego, why me you know, you know, to go to go to

go to give to what I'm to think, what I'm to think the same that we're

a belladone that question to all. And Rodrigo mentioned that Diego he had

a leaderato natural. Okay. I had his friends and always

was the center and was the He said, is this or not to do this.

He had a personality quite marked. Resulta that in this retiro they're

to get a place that's Roderio that is the ex-convento of San Philippe.

This place they use for this type of events, for retiros and

other type of events in the Catholicism. And as every year

they were there even their group of people that were the most relajuechewed

like they were like they were in the moment in that place in that place from very little, because yeah,

they'd have been many years, he said that they were all and they were to tell stories

paranormal of the place of what could have been, recording that was an event,

a convento that yeah no functioned as well. So, every had had

stories and and they'd like this enthusiasm for the thing paranormal. This year, mentioned a Rodrigo that Diego, he was to give to another level. They were in a moment of a break

of food. Diego he said to all that he has to go to contact things paranormal. But I've got to something different. Those reunes in a place in a salon and Saca, of a

maleta, he's a carton mention, he's, he's, he's a little

a in a carton. In a carton, and he he was his planchea

and and he said, and they start, they're in that they're

to get, they're to get, to get, and they're going, but

all of a part of a problem of the Degu, and the other

three that were there were nervousos because they were what

was what was going, all final, all they'd like

very arisgated what did he into and out of the church.

And he's he said Rodrigo that he starts his evocations

and we want to see there someone and some and you know, you know,

that's in a place where probably happened there's many things and

they're much things and there can be a another manifestation

says Roder that the planchette and one of them grita, and Diego to start to

read. He says, ah, they're spanned. Something like like the rebaning there's

and he's, we're going to put us serious. He's, we're going to know if there's a

other more other than us. And he said that they're the voice of one,

of one of the people that were there, and they are doing and they they're

and they're to get the things, they they're every to their

respective places, he gets to the night and in the

morning Rodrigo he despirte for a great friend.

Diego. It was Diego. I'll to see to Diego. Diego

was to be and with something and that's very disagradable.

Diego he was original. And as he had constructed

all this personality even even some were to

be to be the So, Rodrigo, and he asks, and he says, and he's got to

a place, he's going to get to a person, and he started with the person, and he's apart and he's kept

thinking. When I was to go to get to a media morning, he's he gets,

he says, is that I'm I'm trying things very feas. Rodrigo he says, fiftate

that I'm too, I'm too. Diego he does much fear to

tell to his friend to say he's he's he's he said

we're going to say let him tell me you first what you did you and I

tell I don't I'm he said he's that in the dream

he was in the explanate of the convent he said he

was he was madugated or if was an night

or this part where you know if is the if

is the day and he said that there a little of neblin that

not were the people that were really. He said there was a person very

great and that he was the attention because in the obscurity these

people were palidas like grises mentioned in the correo

and he said he said he he was like he was like

if Rodrigo no exist in that there And,

of the long, be like a little a baby that's a little to get a

salon. And in that instant in the that the man he gets a son,

he's he's he's he's going to go to his his friend

Diego and he says that in the I was he could

move so he was he was he was he's he

was And aspronto, Diego grita more and is when he is when he's and see his his friend, Diego, of the foot, orinado.

No, he's, he connected, the dream. Diego, he starts a and when he comes to

his swing. He says that he's a way very very similar. He's got in the explanate of

that he and he that when he's been there by he, he he, he he, he

he's a whiffa, but of madera, the that he did he and the point the

place is a bad in the same circumstance the place the place not even or if

was notheasing or if he was all he says that it's a direction to a woman that was

that I'm that was that I'm that I'm then then So, he starts to

come to the neblina and when when he assom to this salon the light that was

a poca that no was the nightseer or the nightecer between this

light, be a woman in the soil atavied like of a

color beige and he says that he they call the attention is that

the the to the woman was sandrando and the woman

he started the He says, Sackame here. Then he he's

a moment in that Diego has a contact with the arm of the woman,

he said that in this instant so he was around of many people and that

he's and that's let us get us back, Sackal us that. In

that, he says that he in the nothing between the darkness

appears a guyteando but when he he's he's disfigured

and he is spank in the I mean, it's and of the

thing is up over the piece and says that in this moment he's

a feeling when he's he's he's he's he's he says

the he says, he says, you know you're going to get to you're going to

get to he's spantado and it's when he he's when he's then he

don't know because they're they're so they connect them there's mehance

Diego he says to Rodrigo for favor that he talk to my papas

that me take from here because I don't want to be in he says

he says he's he's playing all the time you're having

with this type of things I'm I'm don't do

do this the event because it was the retiro spiritual

and and Roder and he Diego all the

time he he he is like you and

he and the part of the part of he and he

says why why does You say that, I'm the voice of that

my voice of that me about, and I'm very present. All that's he changed

the personality to Diego. From there, he was to be that person extrovertida and he

he was to play with this type of things. He was got to. No,

I don't do, I don't do you know I don't I don't I don't do I'm

a game Uiha but the ritual of the Wihah has an aperture and a

sure. Imagineate independently that's made a whiffed a carton, the people that's the

thing that's, that's, the table. The table is the medium. It can be a carton, even some

those do in parts of tumbas because what important is the alvecedario and the invocation that

it's not the media. No, it's erro the game. No, the ritual. Sin embargo,

if it took an if there was a contact. And it's when came in the bad. So, no

we know, it's a little interpretation. We know what happened in that or what

was the reason for that the two saw, they were a little a little that's

getting, at least the relato of Rodrigo says that he didn't he's not

he knew the he's not he's he said he's a he's a

person he's a And so, also, to be a, a lot of a lot of is, it's

aterrador, or is, rompess the image of something of a little, of a, blanco,

pure, limpio, and it's, of something, you know, you know, you know, you can't,

do you, want, my participation Oscar, I'm going to, I'm going to say it. An anecdote

that for me is of the most fertes that have to be with retiros, this

story that I'm going to mention a continuation he went a

couple of a report is very recent I'm very recently

me need the person that is an anonymous

and I do do some some and I

even I send a because I want I

personally not because she and obviously super tetic

because she go a a retiro to a convento, and

result that not is the place that's the place that's let's put a name.

We're to put him the name of Brenda. Brenda always was a

muchachita that no, he no the thing of religiousity grew

very alijada of all this. But for the contrary, he's

a friend of her mother of he will have a retiro in Chiapas

in the state of Chiapas it's good that you know she's

not so they're in something that she she started and she she

I don't want but I'm going when he's got

he's particularly that the retiro is at the

the afueras at the afueras says that they they

obligatorially, even though it was it was a little your telephone, leave your things,

your pertinences, we need to revisit your mochila to all, so that not you

go to get to some type of maligno like the whiffa or, no,

stupefacientes alcohol or something. So, she's being standing there, she has

found that this retiro is done in a convento of monjas that as

mentioned is in the sierra of Chiapas. And when he gets there, well, it's all very

so much, it was a return of purras women, I know, to clear, of puras

chasas, some they were incursioning to be mongas, there were some seminarsists

and was the mother superior with more monjitas. When they're getting, they're to show

the place, the dormitory, in a place, I'm to say it's very great. Very,

very great. There were like some of some of the casitas. No,

there was a signal, no you're going to do you, you're going to do you're to be in quarters,

some youngsitas. And at the front, yeah, like a five minutes comingando, it's like

a splanada where is all all said all and it's where they are all to pray,

to prays, for the sermons, for the misa. And she says, a me happened to something

really. I said, I never had experimented pesidias or paralysis of the

dream. Never. But when I got to that the place, that's

very very, it was something that was something that I think was a

more of more of more companions, I had much fear. Muchissimo fear.

Sentia an ambient not of peace, no, of a calm and I'm

constantly me sentia observed and I don't know why. He said about when two missioners

that were like, that were like, that they went and they were they were

like they were they were that they were that way, they had from the Vatican and I

I can't hear that they didn't like a license or something or something to make

to make to do something in this convent and they were disanimated I said I said that

they said to the mother superior but when they were going to you know

I was talking like we we're there no it passed

something that the first night I said she said that when I

had a how they were like spirits and the merodian

and the merodian and she had been to prays and she had been taught her

and the maria and he had had his his companions they said

oh you you're you're you're saying but you're you know

no no no doesn't no you don't don't you're

in the second day passed the most the more

She didn't do not to be and I knew that she was very very very

very tired I had insomnia not could do not because constantly I said

I'm when I seero the I feel my my soul my body

who and he started to give me and I took my rosario

and I'm to do the santo rosario here in the

pecho while I was I started I And I started to

to rester the Santo Rosario for to be able to feel peace. But is that in

when I saw the eyes, I felt like if I was like if I did I

did you profoundly dormita and when I do count, I was out of my

house, I was was a parted and I'm and I know

that I came, like I did my body. I I felt a much fear,

but I could enter. And it was when I saw that some and they're

going to pass out of the passio. And I said, me I'm going

to get to get to and I started. And he was a splenada

that was she was she came and she knew to know that they

began to one to get one a one. One a one,

a man a monja another monja but in the circle of vellas

encendidas. And they're they're outside of that circle. He said when she came, when she

came, was the mother superior and was waiting that they were more. When

they got all she said, she said, we're going to start. And I that they

do you do you make this position and I'm I'm going to rest probably

some some people do rosarios at madrugada, or they're in the

madrugada or something but when they started they're to talk if not

it's not a language a language very rara the most

strange that I saw was when all all all

they disprended of those of his robas and they're

they're they're they're they're and in a moment that I did when it occurred he went

to go and where was the center of belas and there a person paradei I don't

know what was going but I felt much fear these women were

saying or something but at the same time they were in a form

very sensual and not I don't what was what was going,

but the person that was in this center of vealas was a capuch

and he did a question that no was a person not a man

he describe that he had like some he's like

a animal had had some hands very long

and and he went to the circle of

velas, and he started to come in these women and with his hands, I saw how acarice about

his senses, how they had the rostro, and they had the rostro and they

did you know that they and the mother superior, I was saying, you can

giveens to the Lord, entreens to the Lord. I'm I'm

I started to because I knew that not was a good. I knew that what was doing

was a thing. And it's when I start in this place. And my friends

me get up. And it's when my people are what you say, what you're

saying? Because you're because you're saying, because you're saying, because you're saying, because you're being

amaniced? It was very time. I don't know that was going to be a

horrible, horrible, horrible, what I did. I did simply was a

pesidia. No, they were going to do you do we're doing a morning, we

went to do you know, and then after the first of the first was the first.

Me they're to say, and me said the mother superior to,

what you know, what you're doing, in the night, in the madrua that you

were doing, coming in the pastions. What I'm doing? I'm I'll say something.

That's the last that's that you enter without and you don't see

nothing. That's the last time. I said I'm not what I just to

get to a little I said you know you know you know you don't see nothing.

In when that woman said you did the world comment I

decided I decided to get to that because that place was of

all less santo no see to that the place I'm

I'm to ask to ask to be to make a thing for me

and she she she sent to day of today of

that I don't say about about six seven days

is more that's more I'm reserved for if

in some when she come to I can

tell all a detail that very much. I've revolved the stomach of the story.

Oh, so it's it's brutal. It's that there things very turbias

then in this type of events. There's people that even to be to lucrear,

no? Yeah. When I went to that I mentioned at the initial

of the recording, a roca Roca Blanca, Roca Partia I don't I'm a I'm sorry

with the name. It's like 10 years, 14 years. Well, obviously if you

have to pay you have to pay what is the food the food, the transport

and then it's not nothing, it's a mode to generate money. But yeah

this, what you mention is how many people not have in ritual in sects?

Exactly. I don't I'd mention to not to get to this but they're

coming in this no? It's is a time a bit a little

of really genuinely me revolved the stomach this this

last you're talking for some stories that one

one term in the courier the the last story

with we we we going to this this

story this in the state of New Leone

and he he man and he himself Josaph

mentioned in the courer that he changed the

number because what what was in that place

and it's it's it's diluiting the the church

that he pertainse this was a congress for leadership this

is a church or it was a church christian did this

what mentioned it was they they're in an

hotel said he that also are other are

using sometimes for commodities in a place to

If we're going to isolate, we're going to let's hear here the cellars. Today we're to try to connect us

and have certain restrictions no, for there. And he said. And he said was the case.

They were in the hotel. It was a end of a time this retiro. That was

a mess. It was not you know, it's contextualizing the audience in the other of the

retires Christianos regularly those who have used a leadership because are

matrimonios who are in those are in et cetera, no? And it was this the occasion.

He said that were the leaders with their respective esposas, spouses, and that all was all right.

It was part of a creation, a connection, it's a final, and you're going to get to get aterized

and you have to be to accept what is saying the one that's doing, the that's that's the

thing. That so was, that all It was beautiful. All those were connecting this

hermandat at the final they're in the end of a place that they're in the

last in the last moment of the adoration was without think it was the

that would be the that would be the pastor Abraham so he mentioned to

him and that was working for the people was the group of

alavance was practically for to despeed the event. He said that Abraham

was an person of approximately about about 50 years more less

and he was going to be to them they were a group pretty practically.

He started to give the bendition for so to say the

thanks for those who were the music was the music was

to he said that he was very very serious

even his mirab and he he was a different to be that of

that he he he's he he said he he said he he may

he may imagine that he he said he he said he said that

he said that he said that he's that he he

he termina that that phrase that that or

an example and that God those Cue Bola

of Hypocrates in that moment he put so the environment

and all and all they're to be because Abraham is

talking or is saying this no he is the

place Esther the wife of Abraham and he

he says something he he he he he

he And the music has because a man that is leader agrede

to his husband. Because the pastor of the church does this. And in

that Josafat says that another person to the leader of the leaders, he says Abraham,

you're well. And he says that Abraham in that moment he respond,

you don't you know you're the the worst of all. And all

they were because this was happening and he was talking about the microphone. And he said that the

problem and he gets to get to someone, he says, we're going to go to him.

And when they're to ask to him, Abraham's to start. But in that risa

says that it was like a perro rabeos that he starts. Spumed for the

book. And one of them says this is this is a possession practically.

That the And then you start to put very, very tense. Esther's

to say that when he says he, you too you too you're of the

and say when he's when he's to mention and you know, and you know,

he said that's a voice is a voice more more more grave and says

Abram controlate and he he says all what we've done and there

is where he's where it's all it's for money and

And, you know, say that's He's the wife, and he says, all those the workes, the pactos that we've made, remember,

how we get, we're going to, and then they're to reprender. In that moment they've been kinkado, and all's

or riding there. The last to get to hear, says Josefad, is I'm tired of cubry the

people, he's got to start and they're trying to come and so it and if it's dismayed

and all you know what's what's going, is anojao, is a manifestation demoniac passan like five or ten

minutes he's he? They ask what happened? What's what? All confused so they're

they're from there and say to Esther that maybe to be to get to the last night and he says

Esther, if somebody me accompany no say what I'm going to get to more

tard or the night, and he's to get there. He said

Joseph Fatt that he gave a message to the wife. That is he could

go to the room because Abraham is having an

episode very strange. They get and this woman

Esther had the eye and the man was in the

room was furico, he was patting the partying the very distinct at

final they're talking a person of the hotel they're they're

in a way of a way very erratica very very violent and they they're

to ask and they put in his hands in the back and his respiration

was very much agitated it was very accelerated and and other

again they're on this but says jose josephat that

he did more more more that even even the

employee the hotel, it's out of the hospital because when they were

when they're saying that the lamper to be a parpadear. And I remember much

this the last time you mention us because he said that Abraham was talking in languages.

And they started with this battle spiritual of that I'm in the name

of Jesus and that Abraham's he said. And they were there, he said

all the night practically he calmo so they were and they were

doing guardia Hego the ambulance Well, the sir is fine No, no, no, there's a necessity to get to

let's go The most tragic is that when they're to do the checkout says that Josafat

He was going by the passio and he he said a grito fulminante of the

room where wasster and he he's going with her and he took the door

and when Esther Abre he was Josafad in the soil and he

said Esther It's that she fell but no, I don't see

his respiration. And other again to talk to the ambulance, Abraham

yeah, he had had been a time. He was a moment, paro cardiac

and they went. So, they're to do this thing, he gets to get to

get to get to get to get to that's a little, no, the and at

final, he's And Esther Quenta A Josefad and his husband that

before to be pastors always were they're to generate money

and that someone us to invoke things for that that they gave

a retribution without that but not they took much importance

because the the blood of the God he was

he going to get to this in this event

and So, Safat, Pied that. Damas, the only that I ask the name and the the place. At the final he was done

doing. But this was going to in the state of New Orleans. I know in what city, but...

That's right. Fiatty that we're present of our own own decisions. I mean, probably

probably, he started, with an intention, standing in the endro, you're redidemes, but,

but you have done what and you had invocated, you had, and you all has

a karma, a regress. A me really a

question the how it's even even even even

I'm a more because it's that you're pardoned

you know you and all this but at the final

no mention how time they they're on a

pastorado but what what was so I infiero

that I had much time and they had

a God, but to who they're to ask us because he said Jose, Joseph,

he said, whole, who was his pacto, with what entity malicta? Yeah, what's the

way to finish the episode, how do you, how do you do that you know, a little nervous,

I've been back back there, there's a mona, the muke that he brought

this Samudio and I'm well, what is that but I know I'm found that's the

reflex of the sound I'm spanned I'm spanned Oh, what good episode? The matter

I'm going to pass a quite quite well. I've got to grab this episode of relato

of retiros because there more, there's more. There's the people want to say the

people who get us to 30,000 likes, that I think that's something super acceptable,

30,000 we're doing the part two. Well, Oscar, thanks for accept the

invitation. No, man, it's a good to be talking the stories

of the family Recordando, mann't them to the Correo, pardon, your stories

to extranormal podcast atrova gmail.com and we're we're doing the stories and that be patient

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