EXTRA ANORMAL - Historias de Amarres Malditos con Magia Negra | ¿Que Sacrificarías por Amor?

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

¿Te atreves a ir más allá del miedo?Hemos abierto una puerta… pero no todos deberían cruzarla.Lo que está en esa página no es para todos:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcastextraanormal.com.mx/⁠��⁠⁠⁠Escucha y ve los relatos, exploraciones y casos más perturbadores y crudos... bajo tu propio riesgo. ⚠️¿Hasta dónde puede llegar alguien por amor...?En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias recibe a la enigmática Pati Yule, quien comparte historias siniestras de amarres hechos con magia negra que han salido mal… muy mal.Desde personas obsesionadas, hasta consecuencias escalofriantes como enfermedades, posesiones y muertes misteriosas. Estos relatos no son ficción: son testimonios reales de cómo jugar con la energía oscura puede tener un precio muy alto.👁‍🗨 ¿Alguna vez has sentido que alguien te amarró?💔 ¿Te hicieron un amarre sin que lo supieras?✝️ ¿Crees que el amor forzado puede destruir vidas?👉 Dale play, comenta tu historia, suscríbete y activa la campanita... porque esto no es normal.

Book club on Monday. Gym on Tuesday. Ugh! Date night on Wednesday. Out on the town on Thursday! Woo! Quiet night in on Friday. It's good to have a routine. And it's good for your eyes too.

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We are going to tell it on our website. Because if it's strong, then I'm going to measure myself a lot to be able to tell it here. She has a stomach ache, a throat ache, things are forgotten, it may be that they gain a lot of weight, they lose weight, there is anguish, panic, this is not a tie,

this is a job of sexual domination. Music How are you friends? Welcome to another episode of Podcast Extranormal. My name is Paco Arias and I am happy to be with you again in an you. Family, I am happy because today, here in the Tux Tepec studios, we are joined by a very special person, a person I met a while ago, last year, and that really every conversation with her is a cathedral, a life lesson, and I really enjoy talking with her because for me she is one of the people with the most knowledge in the whole field of magic and witchcraft. Today we are accompanied by Patty June. How are you my friend? Very well, thank you. Very happy to be here with you. We had already promised this visit and it already happened. Thank you, thank you for giving us the opportunity to accompany you, for giving us this honor, this privilege to be with you.

I want to say something, the stories, the anecdotes that you always bring us to the podcasts, whether it's stories about witches or here with us, to everyone, and I say to everyone, it has us with the hair in the corner. The truth is, the first time I heard the cases you have worked on, I was behind the camera, I was in production, producing Antonio, and suddenly listening to your stories, I was like, but like this, it gives me the beast,

I mean, they are very strong things, they are very strong episodes, in fact, the anecdotes you bring us are strong. Now imagine what it will be also for our exclusive content platform, where I know everything will end up grotesquely. Because you said something that I always mention, human evil surpasses any demon. Unfortunately, yes.

Always. Always. I mean, everything in my magical path, everyone knows that I started very young, I have seen very cruel things, where not even any spirituality is involved, and that the human being has imagined terrible things, or has exercised terrible things, even about the people he loves. Of course. How strong. You were telling me a little bit about a fragment of a story that you are going to share with us and I was like, what a horrible thing what a human being can do.

But before I start, I want to give the recommendations for you. For all the people who listen to this episode, please, on YouTube, I invite you to subscribe to the channel so that you can continue to support it as you have done and we continue to bring people with as much knowledge as Yul, who brings us those anecdotes that we all love subscribe and activate the bell if you listen to us through podcasts like Spotify there is also a button there click that says follow I will thank you and if you listen to us on your smart tv if you see the video there on your screen down with the control you can also subscribe and do not forget that there is also the continuation of this talk on our website triple w. podcast extraordinary.com. mx in our exclusive content because exclusive because there

everything that platforms prohibit us is going to be. Because you know that you have to be very meticulous in certain things, in the platforms, since you know them, but there, being our place, we can talk about things crudely, without censorship. Now, yes, Pati, before we start, I would like you to, please, I know that you have already seen each other with Antonio, you have seen each other with me, maybe in other podcasts, but for someone who sees you for the first time, I would like you to introduce yourself. I know you have already been seen with Antonio, you have been seen with me in other podcasts, but for someone who sees you for the first time, I would like you to introduce yourself.

Hello, my name is Patricia Lara. I am a Tarot reader, a Wicca Seltzer magic priest. I was ordered to be a Tarot reader at the age of 20. All my life I have dedicated myself to magic. All my life I have dedicated myself to reading the tarot and doing magic processes. I tell my students and my people,

my witch family, I tell them, that they are my witch family, that I don't do jobs, no. I do magic processes. Because magic is yours. Everyone awakens their own magic. I can't do for you what you don't want to do for yourself. I'm sometimes strong, but I don't do anyone's task.

The only thing I do only show them the way. I tell them, this way, that way, do this, do that. But everyone has to do their own spiritual and magical work. If someone has the answer to their life, to their healing, to their evolution, to their growth in all aspects, it's the same thing. to its evolution, to its growth in all aspects, then you are yourself. Of course. Doing witchcraft works is very simple.

But? But it is expensive. One, because you are putting your life, you are putting your spirit, your future in the hands of someone else. Of course. A magical process is different. A magical process is you understand it,

you do it, you work it, you live it so that you can evolve, grow in all areas, in love, in health, in the economic, but you have to do the work. Of course. That's what we came for. But people normally want the witch to do everything.

It's a bad belief, a bad habit, right? Yes. Well, hopefully you'll end up losing money, right? But sometimes you lose more than money. You lose your tranquility. You lose control of your life. And be careful, right? Maybe not many people will like it, right?

But when you give your name, a photo, you give your confidence. It's very delicate. Very, very delicate. You are putting in the hands of someone else who may be behind a phone, who may not know, you can't vibrate. Of course. No? You are putting your tranquility. Look, well, that's what you mention is something that has happened in previous situations with people who desperately seek the magical nickname of a person and you and I know well that in this world the people who play with people would have a lot of talk and it is something very strong. Yul, before, because I really want to hear your stories, do you use social media?

Right now, yes. Ok. Right now we have social media. We have Facebook, Yul, Magia y Belleza. Also on Instagram, if you search for me, Yul, Magia y Belleza. And we are more active. Perfect. If you remember correctly, the first time I had nothing. Yes, when I talked to Juli and Antonio, I said,

I can say it like you told me. Of course. I don't want new clients because I've been doing this for so many years. I don't use social media. I have a select group of people I'm already helping. And I don't need more because suddenly, I mean, when I heard that heard that I said wow, I love it because there are people who have been in a past with me and I have said it many times when I started, many people approached me, the sorcerer, I don't know what

the sorcerer, and those bastards grabbed by crowds and obviously I am gaining experience in that, I said no, wait, listen, a person who says that says wow is one of the people who should be with us sharing knowledge in fact today we are going to talk about a topic that I like a lot, that people like a lot, that is the subject of ties. Let's see, Yul, there are many, many doubts that revolve around a tie. There is, let's see, I'm going to tell you what is said out there. Because you know that the people who cheat look for, well, somehow,

to win more people for them. Ties are not bad. Ties, there are black ties and white ties. You don't worry, I don't work with the bad, I work with the light. We are going to tie it with the white. I know perfectly well that a tie is a tie and that the moment you are manipulating the energy of another person, the white tie does not exist.

That is a lie. What can you tell us about that? Look, well, to start with, magic is energy. Let's say there is a scale. The lowest, the lowest vibration, we put dark magic and the highest one is white magic. But it's magic. But everything is magic. I was very... Don't put colors to magic because it's energy and how are you going to divide energy by colors?

I understand that it is a way for us to understand what kind of magic it is. White magic is the one that has to do with love, the highest vibrations and dark magic or black magic. I don't like to call it black because many people get confused and enter into mental chaos. For example, if you light a black candle, is it bad? Well, no, a candle is a... you occupy the element... A black candle can be the best energy eraser. Because the black one is governed by Saturn. And that energy, Saturnin, is an energy, I tell you, it is the collector. You owe three pesos, it comes, it charges you three pesos. And it is a very strong energy, but it is not bad.

It is powerful. So a black candle you can use it to clean but if you have in your mind that the black magic is bad and I tell you to light a black candle, well no because it will hurt me, it is bad. So what do we have to do first before asking for anything? Look for it. I don't tell you not to investigate. No. Submerge yourself. Stick yourself and ask everything. Why? Because you're not talking about Oh, I sent myself to make a suit to measure. No. It's your spirit. It's your life. And what a person does will have a reflection on you.

So a tie will never be white. It will never be good. in ti. Entonces un amarre nunca va a ser blanco, nunca va a ser bueno porque para empezar es ir en contra del libre albedrío de las personas, tu libertad de decisión y esto y yo decidiendo por ti. Y eso no es nada correcto, no puedes romper la libertad de nadie. Después You can't break anyone's freedom. Then, the only thing you're doing, in case they do it right, is to generate an opposite energy. When that person, for some circumstance, either cleans himself or raises his energy,

we were talking about low and high energies, if you raise your energy, you feel very good, very happy, and you go out, the sun rays give you, nature will clean you. Ok? Ok. There are levels of work. There are people who have a lot of energy and mental strength to do a job. And it can be mental.

And there are people who can learn 50,000 and it doesn't work at all. Why? Because it doesn't have that congruence of what I think, feel and act. Now, let's suppose that they are going to make you a work of love, a love bond, that doesn't exist.

Love is an energy that works, it builds. Right. And also, it's not Love is an energy that is worked on, built. And it's not like today I met someone and I'm super in love, no. It's built with time. Love is built with dedication. It's built with daily life. And it has many ingredients.

Highness, friendship, complicity. If you lack those ingredients, how are you going to do a job? Now, shouldn't they be called love ties? They should be called tied. Yes, psychological or energetic ties. Because love is not involved there. It is what they have always mentioned. The tie will not cause a person to love.

It will make a person be there against their will. However, the tie will never be able to make a person love a person. Never. Now, I tell you, if you grab your finger and you put a thread on it, so tight, what's going to happen? Your circulation will be cut. What's going to happen? It's going to rot. It's going to rot. No? Well, the same thing happens to people when you tie them up. You don't have a free flow and you can't just tie up love. Why? Because we are a container. A container that contains all the good energies and also the

lowest ones. They live inside of us. If you tie, you tie everything. So when and then I've heard, sorry, nonsense, right? He made a love tie for him to be with me and he give me all his money. And I say, well, what the hell. Why? Because when you tied him up, you're preventing him from flowing, so what's going to happen? He's not going to have money. Of course.

He's going to start feeling bad. He's going to start feeling bad. He's going to be sick. He's not will not flow. Why do you want someone like that? That is not even what you knew. That's why the ties end up almost always badly. Not to say always.

In fact, I have not seen one that has worked well. Me neither, they always end up badly. Well, and if there is someone who has worked well and nice, let us know, right? Because, well, I have always said that I am in this more because I love to investigate. Yes, ok. And I love to study.

So, I am very curious. And I tell them, even in my classes, I am this and I am that, but let my experiences pass. Of course, okay. With my students, we make good dynamics. But I, in these 35 years that I have been working on magic, I haven't seen a single case that worked. Okay.

Good. They have worked for bad. Uh-huh. No? Not long ago, and this,, this one, I was surprised by it. Because it was made by a person who has been in the magic for many years. And she does like to be bad. And she is very respectable, and she is my friend.

And... I mean, everyone. And I accept her as she is, because that is my friend. And I say, well, everyone. And I accept her as she is, because that's another thing. Most of the problems we humans have is because we don't accept people as they are. Because we want to change them. And because somehow we want to do our own will. And well, she is my friend, I respect her and she does. She gets into every mess because something else happens. She makes the ties and what happens to your patient?

I do tell them patients, I don't tell them clients. What happens with your patient or the patients? And that's it? And at 10 minutes? And I haven't seen anything. And at 20 messages from... It hasn't happened. So they want the job now. And what do you think? That instead of getting closer, he left and said goodbye. Wait. They are processes. The magic of

the jobs, as they call them, when they do them right, and they do the real process, they are very long. And it's not easy. Nobody wants to live tied to their house, to an altar, taking care of candles.

Of course. Seven days a week, 24 hours. Be careful. The magical processes involve the fact that you are in your altar and that you are working with them all the time. For 28 days, which is a lunar cycle, or even for seven lunar cycles, tell me if a real job is done by any sorcerer, magician or witch. Do you want to be there for months? No, well, no. That's why it was the classic witch of the forest, away from society.

Because magic requires a lot of sacrifice. Of course. Right? So, if you see the person who is doing your job, who is not attached, who is always on the internet, Traveling. Traveling, then, what time does he do his work? pegada que está todo el tiempo en redes viajando viajando pues como que a que horas hace trabajos claro y si tiene muchos pero además vamos más para allá no nada más es estar prendiendo velas un trabajo mágico real requiere que tú

vayas a comprar tus hierbas cantar les rezar les hechizarlas Real magic requires you to go and buy your herbs, sing them, pray them, cast them, clean them, put them to dry. That is the magic job. Ok. There is... in ancient times they were sown. Yes. No? Yes, yes, yes, of course. In dark magic it is even more complicated.

Why? Because you need to make it more intentional. You need to do your own role. You need to make your own oils. You need to make your own incense. You need to carry your grimoire. You need to be connected with nature. That is, you know the lunar cycles, the solar cycles. If it includes magic, ceremonial magic with animal sacrifice,

it includes the fact that you have that connection and that you take those animals, the jobs and do the whole process. And that's the question, right? Few people do all this and that's why many people are disappointed because they feel that the job they asked for is not going well. Look, I want to tell you something, friend. There are... I mean, almost many people, or rather the vast majority of people,

share their anecdotes, their experiences. But few people share what they lived alongside the witch. Let's call it that. A witch sent me an anecdote and I want to tell it to you. This story, we call it Death by Love, because it's a witch that just started. Look, I want to know your point of view. It's been five years since it started. Making spells, let's call them basic, right? What sweetenings, what things with cinnamon, what salt salt, candle, very basic things. And little by little, if she started to do more complex things,

she learned how to tie people up, because there are many ways, and with many elements, she discovers a form in a book that is that the person who wants to tie has to drink it in a drink. So it's like a powder, let's call it that, that is poured into a drink. Then in that comes a woman, she says a woman of about 50 years,

she made a party, the person years. She did a party. The witch did a party. And she arrived and... Clients desperate. They told me that I was very good. I want a marre. And the witch said, Hey, I'm celebrating my party. I mean, you can come tomorrow.

It's past tomorrow. No, it's that I. I need it, right? Well, yeah, but... We're celebrating my birthday, I think. A little bit, right? And the 50-year-old woman, like, I'll be back tomorrow. What time do you start working?

I can come at 6 in the morning. No, man, how can you? I'll be there. Yes, yes, no, no, how can you? Come at 12 o'clock in the morning. It was 10 in the morning, 10 and a half there. In case you are ready, I am here. I mean, like, ok, ok, ok. He was there earlier.

Come on, let's see what happened. No, well, there is a person that I want, that I want for myself. I want him to be my man, I want him to be with me, I want him to stay with me. Okay? Is that okay? What do you need? This person, this witch, says,

when a person asks me for a tie, I give them a personal love story, I tell them that ties are not the option. Something like what you just said. But I said, I end up doing it. Everyone. I told this woman that I read practically as a cathedral of one hour of love,

that love is not forced, that I am the other. And just like the woman, I need to tie it. Ok, I see you went through the arc of triumph. Ok, I need a picture, I need this, this, this, this person's name and date of birth. I was writing it down and it made noise because well, her date of birth I already knew more or less what it was, more or less, testing it at that time. It was something like, 1900...

What do you like? Seventy and something, right? And the name of the other person? 2000 and something. And that person says that he was writing and... I mean, it was like he was writing and he was like... What? He was a 16 year old kid.

Oops. And he says... But for this... There's a little bit of shame in those people. I mean, since there's this shame... They don't give the age... They give the date of birth. I don't think I'm going to get the age. It's evident. You're giving your birth date,

which is from the 70s, and you're giving me the other age, which is from one year above, 2002, 2005, more or less. I'm testing him, obviously I'm testing him, but in the story, she was 54 and he was 16 years old and he says, you know what you are doing? you are really making a big mistake this could be a case of... and he still said yes I don't care

and you know what he did weird? they had the same last name. The guy had the same last name in the second one, and she in the first one. He says, since I saw the difference, I said, damn, this guy is a bastard, I don't want to ask anymore, I don't want to know anymore, but well, the question is, have you had an intimate approach, have you been intimate, have you had a relationship,

a bond of something, because that's what I work with, and she says no. How? No, no, no, nothing. She says, well, from me to him, yes, there is a feeling, but from him to me, no. Well, I need something to work with. Normally, this works with ex-husbands, couples, boyfriends, and even maybe friends, where there is a bond. But with someone who is nothing to you, nothing, or there was no feeling.

There was no interest. Nothing? Well, it's more complicated. She says, let's see. She says she thought about it and says, look, she handles other types of tints. She says, but then you're going to do this. She gives him a bottle with a powder and says, pour only the tip of a spoon. Pour it into a drink that is preferably a whiskey or something.

You say, oh, only that? Yes, but only the tip. If you see that this is not working, at the week, at the 15 days, do it again with another little bit. That's why I'm going to give you a little bit more. You say, I know what I'm going to do. a la semana a los 15 días vuelve a hacerlo con otro poquito por eso te voy a dar un poquito más dice ya sé lo que voy a hacer voy a hacer una fiesta lo voy a invitar, te voy a invitar y pues ahí, ahí este lo voy a hacer a la semana hace la fiesta

esta bruja va a la fiesta pero quería ver, quería ver como pues la curiosidad no es saber quién era ese muchacho ese muchacho era hijo de una hermana de ella the curiosity is not to know who that boy was. That boy was the son of a sister of her. Her nephew. The boy arrives with his mother and he realizes that he was going with his mother. His mother greets this woman.

Sister, I'm the other one, hug me, and blah blah blah. And the boy is there, next to him, not the serious, calm, shy. And he says, I offered something to your son, I'm drinking alcohol, I mean, you let me invite him. Yes, he says,

go ahead, we're family. And he says, when I see her, when I see her, it seems that I told him the other way around, I told him, I only told I told her the other way around, right? I told her to pour all the powder. I told her, just the tip of the spoon. She grabbed it and threw two spoons. I approached her at that moment and said,

What are you doing? Leave me alone, I already paid you. I already paid you, let me do my thing, okay? Leave me alone. I know, I face the consequences of my actions. Let me, let me, let me. Says this person, this witch that sent me the story,

says, my God, I was very sorry at that time. He was a boy who was very calm, very serious, very at home, he looked. He starts giving him drinks, he started preparing more, more, more, more. There was a moment, he says, where I didn't go, I wanted to see what was going on, I didn't know what was going to happen. The boy's mom left, a lot of people left, only friends of this woman were left. And at some point he says, I saw that this woman was dancing with her nephew and suddenly, the caresses of both of them started

and from good to bad, they got lost. I said, I'll retire at that moment. Well, they didn't fly that much. What do you like? A month? A month for this woman to return. She returned. What happened? Didn't you know what you were doing? mujer regresara, regresó. ¿Qué pasó? ¿No que tú sabías lo que hacías? No, es que, es que no, no está pasando lo que yo quería. Sí, dice, me busca, sí, tienen intimidad

las veces que ella quiera, sí, sí, sí. Pero este tipo no me deja hablar ni con mis propios familiares ni con mis hermanos, o sea, me está to my own family members or my brothers. He's trying to seal me. Yes, obsession. He's trying to seal me, he threatened me that if I talked to another person he would kill himself. And I said, wait, I'm with you, but I don't have a name. There was a toxic obsession with this guy.

She bothers him, she sends him away, I mean, after she slept with him a lot of times, she wanted to, she went through a lot of times, you know what? Look, go away, go away, I don't want you here anymore. The problem is that there is already a serious problem. Because this guy was still looking for her. And he was telling her, you can't leave me. If you leave me, I'm going to kill myself. And she didn't believe that was true. And that's where she asks for help.

Because what happened? This guy, at 16, ended his own life. He jumped off a bridge. That was in the State of Mexico. And this woman asks for help. Why? Has everything ended? No. She sees him, even after he's dead. She keeps seeing him. In her dreams, in her nightmares, in her paralysis.

There he is. And she keeps looking for her help. And this person, this witch says that she doesn't want to do anything because she talked to her, she told her everything, she did what she wanted, she mistreated her at the party. And now it turns out that she always needs help. That anecdote about Amarris...

No, no, no, no. Damn, I have... There are many points, right? Because the witch as such, what happens with her? It's not only about doing the spell, the ritual, it's not only about attending to your client or your patient, but everything has a repercussion, and not just in this life, but in others.

I have a very strong story, very strong. Ok. No. Of a person who, in this life, lived the consequences of a bond of another life. Ok. And that, to this day, she obviously never understood what happened until we started working. And this case, for me, started very differently. Ok. For me, it all started very differently. Very different. It always happens.

In most of the stories of my patients, they start in one way and we always develop and end in another. Because our destiny, our life, comes with an apprenticeship that you don't know. We don't know, we don't know why we came. Why? If you don't remember from all your past lives. We don't remember because we have to live our own experiences with our liberal like this one. This story is not that long, like five years.

And well, a student of mine says, Maesha, I'm going to bring you my cousin. Look, she, because of a circumstance she had in her life, she says that she doesn't belong to me. She sees the people in the other plane, she talks to them, they chase her, sometimes they even attack her. And she says, well, she asked for an appointment. She's coming one day, another day. At that time I was there. She would come at any time. At that time I would attend to her in person. Yes. In fact, I would tell her to come after class.

So that I would have time. And she would say, When she arrives, I see a girl, no, because she looks very young, thin, very pretty. And I was very attracted to her because she was very hot

and she wore a high neck-waisted blouse, one of those turtle-waisted ones. And I turned around and said, no, you're going to get rusty, right? Well, she comes in, she passes by, sit down, baby, and she's very, very affectionate. And I always try to make a link before, because tarot is a medium which allows us? I don't want to read. I'm scared.

Because they wanted to read me and things started to happen. Even what happens to me is more aggravating with the tarot. I said, yes, of course. Because they are communication channels. You're right. I also see in the water.

And I put my glass of water. I said, let's talk, let's have a chat. I realized that his husband didn't get off. Not at all. And he, seeing everything, obviously, it's a reaction of the men

because the men are colder, more inert, more logical, we are more emotional, more intuitive, and that's why magic calls us more women than men. And I said, well, it's just that they brought him to strength, but he didn't let go. I got to the point where I started to feel uncomfortable with the fact that he was so... Okay. She said no, and I said, please, I feel good, I feel safe.

When I said that, he stopped and left. I said, do you want me to leave the door open? I told him to make you feel comfortable. And she said, no, close it for you. I closed the door. I started talking to her, she said, yes, tell me. She said, well, I had an accident. As soon as she told me that,

I started to see her in the water and I saw her in the hospital. And I started to feel things. When she started to tell me, I had an accident, what is the logical thing that happens in your mind? No, be careful, as a Tarotist, as a witch and spiritual, we should not let ourselves be carried away by what we bring of information, or what we believe is logical. When we let ourselves

go along a line like this, it is very easy for you to make mistakes and make mistakes. In guiding someone. Ok. This has been given to me by experience. I don't usually pay attention to the first thing that comes to my mind. Why? Because it's mind. Of course. Because it's spirit.

Logical. No? Ok, you had an accident. What happened, baby? Well, look. They came into my house at about 6.30, 7 in the afternoon. I was at my house. My husband had gone to school for my son. A man came in.

He took me by the blouse and cut my neck. She threw me out and ran away. And look, her neck came down and I had a wound from here to here. For me it was like... At that moment she couldn't speak well because everything hurt her emotionally, and she started to cry. I began to feel her pain, but it was a different pain. What I was more afraid of was sadness.

A very big sadness like when someone betrays you. Ok. tristesa. Una tristesa muy grande como cuando alguien te traiciona. OK. Entonces, dice ella, cuando dice ella, que todos pensaban que se metió a robar. Vivía en un edificio. Uno de los vecinos vio cuando el hombre sale corriendo todo porque pues le cortó el cuello y bota. Claro, parece manguera, ¿no? Well, he cut his neck and he's jumping. Of course, it looks like a hose, doesn't it? And he comes out dirty.

They see him and realize that the door of the apartment was open. They see the neighbors and immediately call the police. Ambulance, they take her on the way to the hospital. She dies. She arrives and they tell her there is nothing left to do. Her family, her husband gets very sick and they have to do something for her. And at that moment she starts to breathe again. She tells me that she had a dead time.

And on the way she was given all the care. She had gas and everything.. I got to the hospital, they did a surgery that lasted 11 hours, and they told the family to say goodbye, because she was just on the devices. In a miraculous way she manages to survive, but from there she begins to see things, to dream things, to feel them, and begins to have a connection with the other plane, which is why she looks for me. I have never met someone like that. I will be honest and honest, as always. I was very scared because I thought, well, I have experience in what I have done

in my life, in my path, but I had never lived a situation like that. A person who had a meeting close to death, right? I had never lived it. I had a very similar circumstance many years ago, but it was very different. Ok. And my first reaction after we had the first session was, well, let's start teaching you to breathe, you have to do meditation, you have to feed yourself like this and like that.

But I felt that I was not felt that I couldn't help her. She had been in a psychological treatment for a long time and she couldn't get out of that. She also had a lot of depression, she was always sad. So I said, you know what, let's look for someone else who knows. Pati and I will look everywhere. And I think you're the one who has helped me the most. And I said, fuck it.

And it was like, look, with all honesty, I'm going to do my best. But I don't know. It's a new path for me. And I don't want to... That's something we can't experience with people. Of course. So the moment came when I said, you know what? But that's something we can't experience with people. Of course. No. Then the moment came when I said, you know what? I feel that this has not finished here. That's why you're still suffering.

That's why you're still bad. We have to close that cycle. Because for a plant to be reborn, you have to clean the earth. That's right. You have to get everything dirty all the dirt to move forward. And no matter how clean it is, I don't see it's going to be okay. And if you go like this, they make a regression with that person. And they make the regression and in the regression they realize that this man who got into his house had been her husband in the past life. What?

And that they had made a tie, they had made a tie. That is, mutually. They had made a mutual tie. She had tied him to him and he tied himself to her. And then she was chased to this plane. She knows her in this planet, in this plane, in this reality. She knows her and she realizes that she is in love with another. She was married, she had a child, and she said, you are not for me, you are not for anyone.

God... When she, in the regression, found out about this, obviously she went into a worse psychological chaos. To the point that she couldn't stand her husband anymore. She didn't want her husband to approach her because she was scared. Everything that had to do with love, with a relationship, she was scared. No match. with love, with a relationship of couple, it was scary. No way.

And there we worked it among several people to break that bond of past lives. But that is incredible because it comes a work dragging from one reality to another. I mean, magic transcends realities. It is energy. It is energy, of course. Energy is not lost or destroyed, it is simply transformed. So, as a guide, witch, shaman, magician, apprentice, neophyte,

doing a job, a ritual, a magical process, it carries a lot of responsibility. Of course. Do you think that in this plane or in the past lives, the people who made that bond, do you think that they are not dragging part of it? Of course, and sometimes it is the consequence of what they are living. Of course. Nowadays. Of course.

Energy will always look for a way to return. Yes. I tell my students, always before doing any magic process, you have to be 100% sure of what you do. 400% sure. I reject many jobs. I reject a lot of jobs. A lot. Yes. Why? Because I'm very honest in that I like to clean.

Yes. I like to clean, clean, clean, clean, clean, clean, close cycles. And let everything lead its own way. Why? Because if someone is for you, it is. Go away, no? I want you to be happy. Son. And maybe I will be in love all my life. But at a distance. That is love.

That is love. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy.

I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. I want you to be happy. And maybe I will be in love all my life. But at a distance. That is love. That is love.

Look, the bonds of love are not love, they are bonds of passion. They are bonds of control. Of wanting to exercise your will. And come on, it's fine. I would recommend one thing to your friend. First, you have to be very sure of yourself. I always try to practice this that I tell you. Why? Because magic is congruence.

You have to be very sure of yourself. I learned that from you. Magic is congruence. Yes. There is magic from you. It's congruence. There's no other way. You're going to do something that you know is half bad. It's bad. It's bad. Of course.

Don't adorn it. It's bad. Someone arrives. I want this person because I want to. How much? So much. Is it worth it? Do it. But don't decorate it.

Don't justify it. People cheat on themselves to think that they are not doing anything wrong. It's not like, oh, I'm so bad at it. No, no, it's not helping. Sure. If you can't help yourself.

Right? Yes. That's what I always say. First, I solve my problems to help someone. Sure. And I teach them what I do because I already have done it. Because I know how to do it and because it's what worked for me. And when something hasn't worked for me, I tell them.

I lived this experience and it exploded in my face. I lived it, I lived it badly. Do you want it? You know, right? Now, even the darkest rituals, magical processes, have their reason for being. Do them. There's no problem. Do them. But do them from the lowest of you. Don't adorn them.

Be aware of what you're doing. And to the chest. Why? Because at some point it will come back. And that's when... Yes. Get ready for when will come back. And that's when... Yes, yes. Get ready for when it comes back. But if you assume it like that, then that's nice because there are people,

I've met people who have the soul and energy at a very low frequency and it works for them, and it's good and it's valid, everyone gives what they have. Of course, exactly. But be honest. Don't decorate it.

There's no half-white magic, there's no dark painted, no dots or stripes. No. That's what it is. Look, you just said a phrase, curious, I didn't know exactly, I mean, we knew the subject, but I didn't know your stories or mine. You said a phrase that has the title of the next story I want to tell you. If you're not with me, you're not with anyone.

Let's see, I should mention that story, we're going to tell you on our website because it is strong. So I'm going to measure myself a lot to be able to tell you here and that there is no problem with the platform. We changed the name of the person, well, to the people. It is a name and a woman. Jorge is, let's call him a businessman, who 24-7 is involved in his work. A person who is always with numbers, with responsibilities above, and only on Sundays he has to relax. He himself does not look like an alcoholic person, but he likes to have a drink with his friends on Sundays,

get together, make some meat, or they already had more or less a bar where they always saw himself. It was the only day he had to relax. The curious thing is that that day he met a woman, let's call her Frida, he knows her. Jorge is a man who has been single for many years, he has had girlfriends but he has never looked for anything formal because he is 100% focused on his work He is almost 40 years old, so he looked lonely, only with very nice couples He meets Frida, they start talking, he invites her a beer and something that he tells me is that she had a very intense look, he said that she was a woman of those that few times in life we are going to call her like a phrase

that we say here in Tustepec, you get confused, you don't stay all crazy, all hypnotized, go. So he stayed talking to her. Jorge has always liked the paranormal theme. He likes to watch horror movies. He doesn't practice anything. But this woman knew. And when I say she knew, she read the hand, read the coffee, read the letters.

And at that moment, he says, give me your hand. And he started saying, look, this is going to happen, this happened to you when you were eight years old and he was but still super fascinated with her, he continued to spend the night, the drinks continued to arrive and well, yes, the moment came where they looked for a moment to be alone, he was single, he had his own department, he invited him to come over. And yes, what everyone is imagining happened at this moment. It was a meeting that was very magical for him.

He says that, well, yes, he had been dating different women for a long time, but the meeting with Frida was quite different. Let's call it that. He says it was very intense, very passionate, very wild, and that he was fascinated. She left, they kept seeing each other, they sent messages, and he has like a personal rule. He said, You know her? Don't get involved.

Everyone has their own rules. Jorge had that rule. You focus. He said, Something strange happened here. After that first meeting, I was in my office working and I couldn't forget her.

I mean, I couldn't, I couldn't. And he felt strangely attracted to her, saying, I've been out with even more attractive women. And well, no, no, it had never happened to me, he says, and it wasn't ugly at all, she was very pretty. But I don't know, there was something, I don't know what it was, but there was something in that woman that called me a lot. She said, no, I'm not going to talk to her, if you give me her number, I'm not going to talk to her. She didn't talk to me. She said she realized that after two hours her hands began to tremble and in her mind she was, send her a message, something, right? Well, desperate, she takes the phone, sends her the message, hello, what are you doing? And she answers him, no, here thinking about you.

And what are you going to do today? Well, I have work, he says. I wanted to see you, she says. And the guy, I don't know how he did it, he left before work, he went to her and they ended up in her apartment. This was repeated many times. I don't know if it was about a month or two months. And he was already obsessed with her. This brought him many problems. The fact of being super focused on his work and at first, the first to neglect him, he brought him strong problems, they scolded him, they almost

threatened him, sorry, they threatened him, they almost fired him from his job. His co-workers at work told him dude what's wrong with you? You're in another world, I mean, you're doing very badly, you're making very basic mistakes. His family started telling him what's going on, you're not coming to see your mom anymore, you're not talking to her anymore, what's going on. Everyone started realizing that he was... Something happened. Yes, something happened to him. And he had... He tells me that people told him, you have a crazy face. I mean, his look, all his appearance, he was a very lazy man,

he shaved his beard every three days, every two days, but he was very careless, super bad. So his mother is Christian, she practices Christianity, she said, come, I want to see, I want to talk to you. And no, at this point he said that I was sure internally, that is, when you talk to yourself, that you are wrong, that my friends, my co-workers, my mom and my dad, they knew I was wrong, yes I am wrong, but I don't care, I'm worth three pepinos, I want to keep seeing her, and I keep seeing her. So, his mom went to visit him, and he said, what's what's wrong? I know you, I'm your mother. I've noticed you, like this, like this. And he says his mother looked at him strangely and said, why? Well, I was like this, and I was with my hands like this.

It was noticeable that there was something, right? And he says, it's a woman, right? He says, yes. But what is happening? He says I don't know mom. I don't know, I'm not going to lie to you. I've noticed that since I've been dating her these things happen. He says, can I pray for you?

I always prayed for you when you were a child and I want to pray for you right now. He says that his mom closes her eyes and starts now. But his mom started to see how his mother started to shake her hand a lot. And she started to pray, but in her prayer she was crying. And she was saying, in this case, to God, take care of her, take her away from the evil woman, take her away from this. Cover her, I have always given her to you, him he was a child, don't let anyone...

And it started, it started now, but his prayer was very intense. He says, I started crying a lot. He says, I felt good for a few days, but I didn't follow... Well, I was looking for a way to cut it and I ended up talking to him. And that was not thing, but he ended up talking to her again. He says that when he prayed to his mother, something happened. Before, he ignored a lot of things, but after his mother's prayer, his brain had a refresh and he started to notice things that he didn't notice before.

Like what things? Every time they had encounters. He said, I remember that I picked up the preservatives and threw them in my bathroom. But when I took out the garbage, I never saw them. I said, I don't know where it are. I put them in the window. I don't know. But once, two, three, four, five, six times, there was never a condom in the valley. This woman, the times she made video calls,

she says, she was always dark and she always looked like when there was a candle close, there was a reflection, like a light that is not constant, like it has highs and lows. I always saw her between candles, I always saw her doing a lot of things and I said, this woman is doing something to me. But they say, but I don't believe in these things. I mean, what nonsense am I thinking? He says that his mother was praying for him

like a week in a row and he managed to stop looking for her. He wasn't looking for her, zero contact. But it was very hard for him. He said it's like a drug addict was leaving his addiction. He says, Paco, the first week was very difficult, the second one more.

When I got to the month I felt good. When I got to the two months I felt wonderful. When I got to the third month I said, now, now, now, now, now. There he thought that he had already got rid of everything, everything cool. Do you know when she remembered her? When she met another woman.

He says, and here I want to read it literally, because he says When we were about to consume the intimate act, I felt a burning. It's like if literally in my member I didn't get a hot but a brutal burning. I felt like I was burning. I felt the burning even from my navel. And the girl I was with was like, what's up? What time is it?

And I was like, wait, I don't know what's wrong. I went to take a shower. I don't know, I thought I'd better go to dinner. I ate spicy food, yes, and well... Something is wrong. Something is wrong. No, I went to take a shower. No, no, no. Nothing. Nothing. I mean, it wasn't taken away. The girl got upset, she got dressed and left. This was repeated five times. Five times.

She says, it didn't hurt or burn when I was alone. When I worked. I mean, no. This started every time I was going to have intimacy with someone. I let this happen, but it got worse. He says, I was dreaming. He says he had dreams. There are weird dreams where you feel as if you were awake, but you are dreaming.

He says he felt as if he were walking like a worm down there. And he says that in dreams or nightmares he turned to see abajo y dice que en como en sueños o pesadillas él se volteaba a ver y él se veía sus partes con gusanos o sea él veía que había gusanos que salían incluso de ahí y él despertaba todo alterado con el corazón latiendo el full y es cuando cayó en la desesperación dice le marqué And that's when she fell into despair. She says, I called her. It's been a year since I left her. I called her on the phone. She answered. And the first thing I said was, what are you doing to me?

What did you do to me? And that's when this woman laughs and says the exact phrase you mentioned. I told you that if you're not with me, you're not going not be with anyone. This story has not ended, it is an incomplete story because after all this he still has these physical scars, he has gone with people in search of help, they help him by lapses but they can't completely remove the work.

He still feels other worse things at night. He already feels a heavy atmosphere in his room, things move. This is already moving to a very high level. He is desperate, Jorge. And the last thing he put in my mind is, I'm considering suicide at this moment. I can't take it anymore. They fired him, something I forgot to mention. A while ago they fired him from his job.

And for sure he has a stomach ache, throat ache, things are forgotten, it may be that they gain a lot of weight, they lose weight, there is anxiety, states of... ...more than anxiety, they already panic, right? And this is not a tie. This is a sexual domination job. This is domination. A tie is what is going to make you stay with the person and have physical contact. The person who did the job broke the contact when the mother prayed. Ok.

Why couldn't he help anyone? One, because he lost control over himself. Be careful, the least you can lose is the faith in you and the control of your person. That's why I always tell you, when the witchcraft enters and takes over, not only of you, but of your environment, of your life, it's because you opened the door. And besides, you didn't you opened the door. Of course. And not only did you open the door. You said, come in and I'll buy you a coffee.

Yes, of course. And you put the other ingredients. What happened or what were these other ingredients? He gave up his freedom, his freedom to the executioner, when he surrendered to pleasure without having a love. The sexual magic is not only the act, the magic is in all energy, it is in living, in daily life. She is dominating it again, of fluids. But it can can be your image, it can be your name. Sure, but if it had something of yours, I think it would be stronger.

No. No? No. Everything of yours, even your watch, is an extension of yourself. Sure. It has your energy. But nothing would happen if you could give your whole hair. Nothing would happen. If you have control over yourself. You are the essence. When we give in to that energy, that's when it happens. If the hair is strong in the head because it is in your thoughts. In the intimate part because it is in the intimacy. And all our body has a relationship with certain energies.

The head, thoughts, sexuality, obviously. So, more than they have been fluid, there has been continuity in the intimacy. The more intimacy, the more thirst for you. Not because of the fluids, but because of your energy. You are giving it to her. What happens when someone goes to the funeral? Doesn't the aroma stay in their clothes for a long time?

Is it the clothes? Is it the body? No, it's your energy. So what contains your energy is what is powerful. And here was the continuity. If I see you for breakfast, to eat, we talk. Those relationships that are 24-7, but through a cell phone, they impregnate you mentally. Those that are continuous physically, they impregnate you energetically. That's why when you separate, it's the feeling of leaving the drug.

Because mentally there is a conditioning that psychologically, let's say, you call it Pablo Bieno conditioning. If you have dinner every day at 7 at night for 20 years, you will be hungry at 7 at night. And at 8, even if you haven't eaten, you will do the digestion digestion because your body is conditioned. If you spend a year, two, five, seven years with a person, your body is conditioning itself to its energy, to its habits. So, when there is continuous intimacy, we get impregnated, because when we separate, it is, you need me.

They literally tell us, look for me, I need you. And that's why they go to a maare, because I don't want to feel this pain. I don't want to feel that I need you. Whatever it is, I pay whatever it is, just to not have that feeling of anxiety. But it's physical and spiritual. I mean, it is the physical part that needs that energy at a certain moment.

And that you will not even enjoy the intimacy with other people, like with this person. Why? Because there was already a continuity, there was already a conditioning, because you already know yourself. And I know that if we touch here, this happens, that with the person you just met, there is no that, everything is new. And the first times, I feel that the first times are not even enjoyed, because there is the little penis, there is the if I do it, if I don't do it, and if I don't. la penita está lisiago y si no hago y si no entonces este condicionamiento sexo es un condi es un trabajo de dominación cómo se rompe en la magia todo es lógica claro cuál es cómo rompes un condicionamiento dejó de verla un mes dos meses tres meses no y cuando empezó a estar con otra I stopped seeing her for a month, two months, three months.

And when she started to be with another person, she started to have physical discomfort. You have to recondition your body and your mind. Through prayer, there are herbs, she has to fall in love. and start to be intimate, even if it hurts, even if he starts to get energetically involved with another person. That's why it's very important

that you really fall in love. Because who can stand a process of helping someone grow, of getting out of a sexual domination? Who? Only someone who loves you. Of course, your partner. It doesn't work.

Don't carry love. Let's watch a movie. Let's go to the park. Kisses. Little by little, little by little. You need to fall in love. You need to recondition your mind, your spirit, and energetically that energy

will come out, the previous one. Ok. But if we get angry at what they did to me, what will happen? You will feed it, and that will grow into a snowball. Yes, because right now it's not just that. Things are moving in your room, you see shadows...

Because... because... Humans are antennas. It's bringing the negative. Everything is mind. I'm sick, I want to... I want... No, this is not life. And you start pulling.

Yes. The... the... What moves in the lower astral. You start pulling it. How strong, my friend. There are many different jobs. Now, what happens? Are we at Mercedes, the people who know how to handle magic? I say no, depending on whether you know how you take care of yourself. I say no, and we all believe in the nature, we all believe in a god-god, omnipotent, omniscient.

They would be very defective gods, because to allow a human being, who has a little more knowledge than the others to have control over everything would be... very selfish, right? so, everything that we have been told about how beautiful it is and how wise and omnipotent it is would stop being

it doesn't work that way. Those of us who have a little more, as the grandmothers would say, the tuerto in the land of the blind. It's the cannon. Those of us who have a little more knowledge about that area, maybe we have a little more advantage. But we are all in the same plane. We are all here, we are all learning. What do you have to do to not fall into that situation? One, and I have repeated it tirelessly.

Look, have a belief, whatever it is. There are those who believe in science, apply yourself. And from there, do not fall apart. belief, whatever it is. There are those who believe in science, apply yourself, and don't get lost. Why are we hitting the blind? Because you don't even know where your spirituality is. Not long ago, I had a very deep discussion with a friend, well, it's not a friend anymore, we fought. Ex-friend.

Because she made a tie through a mirror. Ok. Can you talk to us? Yes, of course. Ok, thanks. No, she's not my friend anymore. Ok, ok. This... Obviously, right now...

Good and bad. There's a lot of information. And that is the beautiful and dangerous part. Because you open your phone and you put the link and you get 50,000. That's right. And in many ways. And also, obvious, purifications.

How to break, how not? Of course. Okay, I don't think they give you the full context, but you already have a way to defend yourself. Let's say. And she came very... in case we already had a half. Half, we don't agree very much, and I'm very respectful. Of course. I don't agree, but I still love you.

From here to there, but from here to there, I was angry. It was like an imposition of ideals. And he came to tell me that you are a... ...pen. Because you could... do. And I... well, the one you can, doesn't mean you should. Right.

And I... my philosophy of life is very grounded and I don't get confused. I mean, it's simple, I don't get confused. I don't doubt it. Because I know that this is like that and there is no way to change it. And if you change it, it's under your own risk.

And to your chest. Right? Like I said before. And you tell me, you know what? I had already made a tie with someone who is from the same medium. So, with another sorcerer? Yes. And if I love it, that is from the same medium. So, another witch? Witch and witch. And he says, I love it, it goes really well,

we get along well, and I want it for myself. For many, many things. But everything I do breaks it. And he even comes and tells me. You wanted to make me, and I am... Everything I do breaks me. And it even comes and tells me. Damn!

You wanted to make me like this and... Damn! But since they are speaking the same language, it's like a fight for ego. And I decide, what an ugly relationship. That you are with someone you can't even trust. Of course. That I made you right now and then you come back and start making fun of your work.

And she wanted to dominate you and wanted you to be faithful. No way. And she wanted to, you know, pay you back. And she gave me all his money, his records, because I'm very pretty and so I deserve all the pretty things. And whoever is with me, I... everything, right? Of course.

And I'm like... Oh, damn. What a philosophy of love, so strange. Yes. Right? Well. And he says, but I did something that I won't be able to break, unless I find it. I'm very curious and I like to investigate and study.

And I said, you know, this is what happened to me. What did he do? I saw after about two months, I started to see that he did. He made his mark. So he did it. Okay. Look, a good job, my grandmother said, a good job, there is no complaint.

If they make you a tie and you're happy against wind and tide, you're there and they tell you, everyone did this to you, you don't care, there's no complaint. And there they stay. And they bring you like a fairy tale, yes. And if they start to be bad, getting depressed, not having money, they don't care. Because it's a good job. When someone says, you made my son tied up,

oh my God. Maybe it's not for nothing, but if you're going to spend a lot of money on a tie, you're not going to spend it on someone. Of course, it is not worth it. Well, he did it with a mirror. The work, the witch, your friend, well, your ex-friend. He bought a new whole body mirror,

he put it in his room, he cast it, he prepared it, new. Nobody had to see it in him. Because the first image he received in the mirror was his, to catch him. Ok. He buys it new,

he casts it, he goes to visit, no? He party, and he goes and says, Did you see in front of the mirror? He gets caught. His essence is trapped in the mirror. He goes, closes the mirror,

seals the mirror, and at night he uncovers it, and she looks to one side of him. And every night, conditioning, you, this, and he does what she says. Oh, man. But with a new mirror. Obviously there were more elements there. In that case, I mean, the people who listen to that are not like me. No, it has... I didn't say it. I mean, obviously, I'm not going to tell you.

Poor people who sell mirrors. Of course, yes, of course. It's a specific night. The person has to reflect on a specific night, on a specific time. I have a previous preparation, and while she is reflecting on the energy trapped in him, that will be working. And if you add to this that she is occupying her sexual magic, can it intensify it more? Sure, what we were talking about before. Sure.

One is a mental conditioning. Then, energetic. Damn. There is a story that I can't tell here. Because there is no way to tell it here. It's very explicit. It's very explicit.

But I can only tell you for the people who, so they don't have any doubts, it's a tie that is made during the act, during the intimate act, and it's like a lethargy. It's the only thing I can mention, because if not, I mean, I want to tell tell the story but I can't because it's like that. I'm going to be silent all the time because it's going to vip me. Because it's a different process. That's if it's sexual magic.

Yes. That's if it's sexual magic and it has always existed. Of course. But it's that... well, it's going to be pending. Those who go to the website, I'll be waiting for them there. Because there, also, what you're going to tell us, Yul, is very strong. How did you have a good time? Super. Thank you very much. Hey, it's not that... The anecdotes you tell us always impress us a lot, friend.

The truth is, I had a great time. I learn a lot when I talk to you. I haven't told you, but you're my teacher. I learn a lot from you. to you. I haven't told you, but you are my teacher. Thank you very much. I learn a lot from you. Can you remind us your social media? Yul, magic and beauty. Yul, excuse me for cutting so suddenly. People don't know it, but we have another recording pending. And we have the live because today is Saturday, so we also have the live.

So, we have, I already have the production messages here, we need to cut because we have to continue. If we don't go long, it's easy, two hours, you and I talking about all this. Family, thank you to all who came to the end, the truth is I enjoyed this talk a lot, if you also talked as much as I did, don't forget to subscribe before going,

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