EXTRA ANORMAL - Historias de Gárgolas: Casos Reales y Misterios Oscuros | NoEsNormal.tv

Episode Date: August 31, 2025

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about the existence of the things speciales the gargulas and in this night

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into the magic and over all encounters with gargolas something something

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production. Abitants of different parts of the country report the appar

a person to a tall and how it expusied residents of Altamira. Investigators them can

reproduce say. Dicen that the gargolas only are figures talled in the guardians

immobiles in the cathedrals. Monstruos that serve of desawue and the adorn.

But, and if not were so? What would if those creatures of alas

enormous, with eyes and garras philosas, not were just sculptures, but

testigos of the obscurity that in our cities? This night, in No Is Normal, we're going to submergings in encounters real with gargolas, relato-a-terradorers of persons that that have seen to move, volar, and even acetarlas in the madrugada.

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and today is your first in-vib- -v- And now, so, production, for favor, we're going,

we're going with the first theme of the night. Okay, fiftate that this, it's a

very interesting to talk to this point, as now, now, so the title is what has,

like the origin of the gargolas. It's a little varied, because simply,

some of the years of the years, no, some chaborrocos yeah, we've talked

These amistosas gargolas, I'd say, thanks to films of Disney with the Corobado of Notre Dame and other than animations. I don't see if you've seen the series of gargolas, that were like, well, if it were a group of five or six gargolas that were like to protect a people, to resolve crimes and that class of things.

No, no, I did. It's like of the 90s, for there. Echallie one ojito, it's a very good. Much of us know. that. And some of in Mexico, we know us also for a comedian

that had for there a gargola in his page that later, and I mean, well, me me took when I was a kid, and me was a lot of fear. But, but there a context

very interesting. Principally, the word gargola has an origin French, a origin French, which means garganta. So, so

these, initially if we see it's a origin not so much not so more normal

if we want to see they're in the the tachos of the churches for

motive of that for this, we know for these ductos for that the water

not not be accumulara in the teches of these great constructions

were out there and is where we we can it's like a disahue

so then there this name not the gargola that

Signific a garganta for the sound that makes the water at the start. So it's like, it was a origin quite strange. Sin embargo, we have we also

another thing of the side mystic, the side magical because they're in the currents very, very strange,

no, like of protectors, guardians, and it's a series of things, there's, all this

of the Gargolas has had a ample evolution, more in the culture European.

Yeah, we adapt us to our culture a much years after.

But, creme that these gargolas are from the era from

from the time. Since those times, they were for desawwe and

this kind of this class of things, but his apogeo was in the gotico

between the century and the 16. Exactly. That is when you

started, you know, you know, you know, they were they're Notre Dame, et C. But here

there's a point important. There's to give us that, for example, the image that's

being that's being a thing is a chimera, not it's a gargola. Because, because if

we're we're the boquita serrada, then then you know would be the function

for the that were the gargolas in a principle, not that was the only

it's like something more technical at the final of the day

to to be to differentiate between one and the other. It's interesting because the appearance, or no

is that really, no, there's not there's, to the idea, only they say

that they say, it's from the century to the 16, which is his apogeo with this,

this vista, this vista that got that they're in the churches, the cathedrals,

that me personally, I'm can't, these, these, are, they're,

are, they, So, for the time, where they're located, even the form. Exactly.

The voices in those that are, it's very form. And so, because many of these, you just mentioned

to the person was a Kimera, but there others that have an appearance a lot of

I'm at say, and that I'm trying to generate much speculation in the age media also,

not that the people mentioned and is that they are, what they're doing these figures with

rostros of demonios, people humanoid with alas of murcielago or cabas like of felinos or

of perros but with colmillos so the people in your moment I don't understand that

probably this was to get to the water and not it's tankar in the tachos

but it's a sort of a series of kind of kind of significados

we're to call like there people that say that not was casuality, and it was

obviously, no was that these beings with these forms were like, so it's like a me

that I'm it's like the water and there really there really there's supposed that there a reason

an something that why they've been to have these forms and right as far going to

this in-biv we're going to be we're going to know? Sure that all this was

adaptating a through the diverse cultures and religions that existed. As you, as you mentioned, in a principle they were in a certain use.

But, for example, the church Catholic or Christian was used to want to show that the world exterior is a malo.

For that they're these figures grotesques. It's like from here to the there's maldard, there,

all, all, all what you don't want, but from the door to the purity, all is tranquillity. All is a saint, no?

All is santo, exactly. They want to paint as demonies. Exactly. Because, also we have that idea of, no, a gargola, and us will be something, or is a demonio, or it's my ultimate day. I want to say a question,

and only I'd like to know the response rapid as, no, because we're going to be a profundize a little. You'd say, you think these gargolas only are the ones that we

in Piedra in the church in Notre Dame or if exist in these beings physical

not so not as a spirit but more physical that can coexisting in this

plan I think I think I'm I am 100% of the idea of

that are reales because always you have to base in something to create

a more the first person that did with that idea, is because he had had been

experience as far as or had seen, he was like, he's a okay, and a

inspiration. Exactly. Always there's always there a reality that inspire a fiction or

a creation. And for yeah, we're going to get, because we're we're

we're not people, that really they're really for their having been an encounter real with

this type of and we're going to the second thing, for favor of production.

The evolution of the gargolas justly is like to reforce a little the point anterior, because it was extending from the cycle 12 to 16, where in places like Greece,

Roma, Italy, were occuping, those models, no, of, well, is that it's that, you know, it's

that's a lot. So, it's, it's, if you're, you'd ask, that's, is it could considerer

like a gargola hybrid or anthropomorph. Why? Because it has different forms. Now,

like a mix of various animals or even with rascos humanoid. We've got to be

some, for example, just, just this that's in the part of the car is like

of a person. It's human. It's human. But it has. But it's

has a alas and it's different. That, for example, it's like like if were an

alcon, like if it were an eagle. Ah, like if it was an eagle. So,

how, how should be the gargola real? The gargola real is like, could say,

of the same being the same animal, for so to say, in what they were

in this was in the dragons European, which are those who have the four

patas and the salas. So that could say that is a interpretation of a

gargola, well, traditional, for so say to say it, they're some of the references, and they're

to be used to like in this ultimate, that's like an eagle. Exactly. Yeah, then they

started, conformed the time, you know, they were to change the form, they're

to become more human, and the head of leon and the body of the animal of a guy,

no, I'm there, there's many combinations, and it's supposed to have been a

purpose, for so to say, say, but it's being

like a kind of kind of a bit of and it and it's fascinating

because I know, I'm really really very burdo to the mind,

excuse me but like, well, no, burdo, but an example

that also, in some parts of the Bible us

describe some some with rost human of the

leon of the boy as also then then

we a mixla, no, of, of animals, quadrupedos, bipedos, and that's so fascinating because the

mix of these beings always with the human, because there have a face human

on the right of a lot of that's always me has been the attention. I think

it's like for that's more, that's more imponent because, look,

if you put to think it, if you you, you're going on the streets of France, for so

to see it, and you see a gargola with a head of leon and alas, well, it's like, ah, it's

like, but if you see one that has a humanoid, like you start to do even, no?

Yes, you know, you know, this is, so, this mixed, a man, it's made a cargola

more trouble, more incommodity. That's, it does, it does much a much fear. And now

if we're going to pass a point important, for favor, production because I want to

a myth of the garrulas no, that's not it was the other was the garrulas of Notre Dame because we're talking

of justly that it was for those desawes for that not to accumulate the water and here I'm going to this myth

oho I'm not I'm not saying that it's real because if I love much to leave very in

clear that not I'm saying that this is information that is information that I bring

in this moment. So, it's that a part of a grand part of

Europe, these are these exist. It's said, it's that these

were, I don't see the word were captured or were transformed and primarily

venceded by a sacerdote francis this sacerdote is supposed that these meniacos

were out of a part of Europe and right I'll say one of the parts where it's

that is very famous and many explorators have gone to this world

and it's said that these demons were to to care to attack

to these iglesias or these these places, or these places, and that a sacerote a francis, he was able vencered with

the power of the oration, the adjune and all this, and he he was to put it in the pietra

or occupant the alchemia, no? Campiando the form material to forms of the or this

type of forms that we've been there and that still occupied, he's also

did something really Salomonic, you know, he occupies, he'll dominion and now it's

his favor? A sub- because now you know you're going to work for the light and

they're to functioner as a guardianes of these places and this is a mytho

and I do I'll repeat again it's a myth, it's a legend but that has been

got rid of bock in boca of anciano and new generations in parts of Europe

of France where where this, I mean, adults mayores of many years, then they were this sacerdote

that he worked to confronter, to a manna of demonia, if you want to be like, of the seres, totally deformed,

of serres with alas, Ceres Nocturnos, those vence, and it's able to convert in a pietra, and now

he'll use to his favor. I don't see have, I've heard that. I've heard a little

of that, and if it's has been logic, or, well, as you me the

comment, if it's logic for me, because from the altitude to the

cargolas, the position and the material of the material of it's magicically

now we're about various aspects, uh, for what it symbolisa.

For example, that they say, we're saying, we're just, it's about, well, yeah,

of firmness. That's in a great altitude, we're in a good, just like

us, of protection, they're being, if, if all is good, if no any problem.

Of fact, there are caricatures or films in where they're going to attack to some where there are

gargolas, and what's the gargolas like they defend the place? They're they're

they're they're they're to defend and then and then, but that the box

is for expulsion. As as they they used for expulsed the water,

also it's also to get to the all the other go. Okay. It's interesting. It's very fascinating because

many people of this story that I've got to tell very brief, they think that it's real. But if we're going to analyze, of what are to defend these churches or of who they're going to care or for what were puttes, that is still a doubt major and it's going to respondent conform to this in-vibo, because there's a in Paris, me

it's, where it's where it's supposed that abitans these and that's what I'm saying is a little bizarre because no, because no, there's another word to say it, it's supposed to the

death of the Papa Francisco, this, a group of persons came to say it. Are liberated the gargolas that supposedly the Vatican no had captured,

and that, for a strange reason, they're in America, and this is a brom, eh? Of actually, we've put him,

a reportage that's made, of the internet also, of a program where, well,

a person, he said, there's people in a city of Mexico that says to have

seen to these, they're, they're, they're, they're, and they're they're,

and they're, even, they've got to think that it was a animal or a species not discovered for the ser human but that

began to win this territory or if we're so we're trying. So this is interesting because we're not

we're talking then a person of a being of a sort of these that are

in these creences in these currentes Yeah yeah it's still is

being more more more more more more information

books, many different fountes where you can't investigate a little of these origins or even

there are people who have lived in car, and there's not if you know if you know that there's

that they can't and they have seen to have seen to these, so about

those you see much in the night. So, are very difficult to be

in the day it's functioned like if were a bursealago so there are

people that during the night and in certain zones they

can Grand Ver. And right we're going to even one that's very famous in Mexico, but we're going to the next theme, for

favor, production? Sure, that's here. Here, here, I'd like that you

let me talk about of his use in the magic. Sure, that's like I'm

mentioned earlier this, from the form that they have been, it's so grotesque for that

alexe to the malos spiritus, or at the more to the malas energies that

attack, even call me see demonios. The point is that when this entity or what is that

he wants to that's like, what is that what's what's what is that is that

is that that's that's the form that they're the material that you have mentioned

that in this case is a part of just to give me just as you comment about

in the history of the alchimia it incaja perfect for

so I said that I feel that is quite logic because we do firmness and it's

stability aparted these gargola can use in rituales of protection that you can put in the

door of your house or in some altarsito obviously getting the measures corrects and

not like like any whatever something no yeah what is that you know

is that you know what you make think this it function very similar

as like in a part in a in Merida function in the l'lush

because the Lush in comparison with the Cheneke or the lus is a figure of barro

the which is ritual a person obviously not any no any person

a a a certain a ceremony where invoked the spirit of the Lush

and that he gets to be to say this material this container this container

and these you can't put in certain zones for that you're to care, for that they're they're if you have

their own, casas, et cetera. They're they're doing that way. Something like would be

to work with gargolas? So, you can't have a little statue of a gargola or not

see if you have seen that then like the case, like to put a kind of

a type bust or something in the same. Igual they're Also,

the point of this is the ritual that the preparation and the intention. You can have the

best figure of the world, the better than you know about you know

you know you know the process that will not be not. So, if the

gargolas are for that you have to use certain materials specific

obviously obviously I don't do all the but let me

let us a little of some the elements principal but not those

okay um for example you need the figure the gargola of a cargola uh

velas yeah either black or grises uh this salt of protection

that is always that is of a cajone in all the rituales salen grano salen grano

okay for whatever okay so obviously obviously a messla of yearvas

of incinso things of this type or some locion that you do you need to

be in a feature specific. Okay. It's also depending to how is the

Luna. Ah, okay. So, you're all those elements and there

you start to just a figure that you have in the entrance of your

door or you can't a altar. If you like all this style gothic

and you are of this own, you can do your altar-cito and put

to your gargola and you Prendes those belittas. But entirely is for protection. And how function? For example, suppose if a person

decides to take a gargola for that he could do your house and a person, no see, a ladron, try to enter and to get this place, robar.

How function? How actua this protection? Well, it's supposed that you have that you have the protection is like if it's like if

it's all the ladrons, you know, it's like if it's like, oh, no, no, I'm interested

to be your house and all, but it's like, X, for me. Now, yeah,

if they're to get, it's here where it's all the things of the form of the

gargola, no, that's even, even they get to see, they're

like, as they're moving, put you me met here to, to be to be

to be to get to the podcast, and I I'm going to see somebs

like in the wall, like if something I'm trying to and I'm trying to try to get a

so you you're at you're to get to suggestionate and you know what? Okay.

Can get to emit sound, noise? Sure. If the if the work was

taken to the more way, they can do it, can't do you, you know,

just like this that you say, just like this I've seen or those exactly. But

But the point is that you create in it, that you know, that you don't have

present, because if it's like, ah, well, there's my gargola and that's

good, but you know, but you know, but you know, I'm a friendita, I'm prend

and I'm so I'm when you can't help that you can't be sure that you

to be to be sure. And what so hard so dense is the energy that gets

to this figure of the gargola because the of the the Lush usually is very

very and for example we have one here you know you know it's a

question of the energy that's yeah it's yeah how is

the energy of a cargola equal I mean I don't I

could say that is exactly exactly to the but

so are very very so are so are

very very so we we'll also also attention

he prestes, no? Because, for example, you you can have a

crucifio and a more just to have been there. But yeah if you are preston,

he's doing intention, he's doing force, you're doing energy, obviously it's

going to be able to more and will be more more power? What would be

if a person decided to this ritual to agregar you, you know, what is

always the people normally aggregate to be more These rituals, liquid vital rojo, or

of animal, or of human? For this case, there's to check, well, obviously, not it's like you can't

use any kind of of the liquid vital, but this, he does more force. At the final of the day, it's like

an interchamble energetic, okay? It's like, you know, you know, you put herebs, this, veladores,

all of your altar but yeah the moment in the you do you do you even you

even can be of an animal or it's like also it's like because you you're doing

a part of you you're you're you're you're doing of your energy

of your vitality so it's like if it's like you it's like

you're to be to attack or not to be to try and how

how is that a person has like a gargola of

protection because I've heard I've heard I know about I'm not common

because precisely the people think the people think they're like they're like they're

they're like malas demonious demonios if it's like no if I'm not if I'm

going to tryying the things malas and to the other for the form

that they're but no it's all the contrary if you do you do you

do you do you can't you you can't the consequence of something that

is a way in this process magical for the person that wants that's a protection.

That you rebate, could be that in the other that he he's attacking to

you're attacking to be because at the final of day you're

you're you're doing a lot of Guadalupe Agir 6630 that says it's like

when you're like when you not so because the enganga has another

type of elements okay the engang is like a calderito and try other things

there's about the mortito over the that's never that that's never that's never

yeah and here not so here not here not it's like you you know

if you do you do you do you do you do a another person no

no no it's like like you're you you're doing force with the

same the same the same. So, it's occupant literally your vitality.

Your vitality. But how this can get to get to have a power of you?

But it's for the mix of the elements? It's for the mix of the elements.

All in a ritual is important. Uh, so for that you say,

you know, you know, you know, I'm, you know, I can't go right for a

gargola and buy to and I do, and the final of the day only will be

like a decoration. But if I'm joined the elements necessary to

to make a ritual and that it's like connect to the energy of the

universe. And, and also, if you do you do you you're you're

giving vitality. Because at the final of the day, the plant, the

velas, and all that they're their own their own their but it is similar

to the that of the you know, I'm sure that will be going to be sure

to be to think that no, but suppose we're going to but

we're going to a person want to want to get a cargola of the

person doesn't know how does it Google or he's

to chat GPT or he's to go to a video of TikTok

and he he he does and he he he occupa liquid

vital of the blood there there there is a

that Yes. No, they intend it in and if they're that they're under conditions optimas and not do it,

if not are very sure of what they're doing. Because at final of the day there are many recetas, or instructions

in internet, you know, that in TikTok, that in Instagram, that in Facebook, of what it, so, so many

times, not they do they do the form correct, for X or Y situation. But what not they're

to think to those people is that a mal practice to get to to get to let's,

instead of that's not that's attacking. That is like the principal problem that there's

always in the rituales. That if not it does it does it can't. You know

to terminate very bad and to be I mean we're almost three thousand people ohho

for favor that those 3 000 do you want to do a question, for favor, uh,

appoyem with an encuester, if the people, just to know just to know,

as far as matter, if they'd to have a gargola like a, like a sort of,

literally, you'd get it in your house, I imagine that you imagine you,

I'm, you know, offrendas. So, and all this, I mean, only to know,

just to know to know how of the percent, no, not, not they'd atrever

then. So, for favor, we're to put a question about to

see the people that would be to be able to be honest, I don't me atreverie.

I don't me atreveria because I know that the force or the energy, I mean, I'm going to

that's occupant to your favor, is energy very dense, you know, very strong, but very,

I'm, I'm very very bad. Yeah, that's, if it's, is energy of a

big vibration. Look, there's the question. I'm going to

to emit my vote as a citizen independent as a as a independent no,

here we're free and secret oh, look, no manches it, it's all

it's too very divided. Yeah, is it is very divided for the people for the

people who vote here in the chat here can you can leave your vote

for to know a new new fear of adult disloke put in

you imagine you you can I'm I'm this you know

that you know we can We have many people who are doing to the magic

and I've interviewed to be in a lot of people. I don't say who I'm

going to say it but I'm a house of an friend who not is here and

he's a little this, me invite and then we went to come and we

went to and I had a car a cargola like not not not metal

it was like it was like a type of a fiber but

enormous it was like the typical statues of the Santa

Mort, but in this equation, it was a gargola and was in the cell of his house, it was enormous,

imponent, I said, I'm really super imponent, I said, what on with this? And said,

ah, is the that's the house, and when I'm saying, in serious. And me

he's a real, so, he's, so, he's, he, so,

this had, something, he said, that the person, said, that when he said,

he was, he was, he was, he was, it's like a grass nido, like literally in a sony

a gargola, and the people see it. Yeah, like a baby, no? But an abe extrana.

Extrana. It's, it's, it's a fear. Yeah, and the people and the people

go. So, he he said, me he'll and he said, and I'm like, all the bestia,

so, with all right so, but you know. No, and it's important that,

what you mentioned last time to start you're doing their your offrenda and all that even you can

every certain time to put them to this liquid vital for that you get a lot of because you

put you put one one is like it's like that yeah yeah it's going to get to

the end up no because every every time you have to be there

there's a person that says I'm there's bluege I'm I'm

there's I'm wow how interesting we're we're of the people that

are almost 3,000 people that I have done your like this

for favor oh, look, look, look, that's interesting. Paregit. Very paro.

So, the 57% says that no, but the 43% says that yeah.

Wow, what interest. A see it's certain, eh? A to be sure.

Because I feel, I think to have, I mean, normally they're normally,

I see I feel that the gargola has had an energy more more heavy more

a lot of that's of those of that you see that's that's so you know so imagine

if if for si when they're when you're you're it's like if it's to rebutter

what you do you say what you do what you do you say it's like you're like this ingredient

this liquid rogo but I'm going to say it's like it's like the trolls, to put them to put their offrenda, but

with this liquid vital rojo. So, that's. Because to put them to this liquid vital, you help to give

to give a more force to your ritual. Dice, Anna, no, joven, a little, I'm going,

I'm going, I am going, I'm I'm asking. I'm going. But what interesting. Look, look at,

look, this comment that we're saying Karen, Overso, 7777, a brazo, He says, in a

Pueblit of my Sonora, he mirro a pacharer enormous. And is that I'm going, I'm going to mention, more along some stories that occurred justly in parts of the north of Mexico,

also of Baja California, Mexicali, and so all, also, also in certain in certain, Tamaulipas,

because there are people, there are people that, is sure to be this, but not like a spirit. I mean, like if it were an animal, an abe, and that's interesting.

Yes, I mean, you know, you're going to, and you're going to be able to pass. And genuinely, I am I feel, credent, of all this, because not it's like you go to the call, I'm going to look a gargola, to see what I'm

going to find out right, no, you're going to be doing your day normal, and of a sudden, you see this, and you kind of, what happened? Look, there are two questions very interesting that here

the community is doing because he says they can put a number? Yes. Okay. If you

can't put name because it's like to do it's like more confianza of quats, uh,

more of quats, it's like, okay, you're part of me, of my family, of this space.

Uh, no, it's like you, you know, it's like, it's like, the two

we're both we're together but you're to care Yes, but you have to I'm, it's like

it's like a it's like a I'm like a I'm trying to I'm sorry but you can't okay and there's

another question because he says could have a lus a troll and a gargola of protection wow

I don't I imagine how will be to be that that house will be much that house

I think I don't there'd not a problem but that you don't those don't those you know

that you in this Altar, I have a Diosito, I'm a Mia Lush, I'm a gargola, I'm a... And the devil? I'm...

I'm... I mean, I'm... I mean, if you're... But, um, in different quarters. Okay.

Just as it can't... You can't nombrough as... There's that was that is the commentio.

You can't know, like, any... Okay. So, it's beneficial. Between

the better relation you have with your protection will be more useful. Okay, look. Ah, Adriana, much thanks for the donation, a brazo, bendicions.

Much thanks for the people that we don't. I mean, I personally no, no, I don't pay donations, but I feel very beautiful when someone, well, now so, now, I wish to this project. So, much thanks, Adriana, for that

donation. A brazo, much, much blessings. It's, look, look, What I mean to what says Let me Let's let's

see I'm Canakasha I think that's I'm say to let's

put a set up before before of plantadas for that they

can Well in these you can you use

a kind of a kind of for those that is for those

or some logitop like a like a like a symbol. Like a symbol,

exactly intentioned to a certain situation. For example in this case would

for your gargola you protect. Obviously you can create you

or you can use in a little literature that that's

good. Sure. Algoette yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I

think would be better if you do it because no there's

nobody nobody the author of the to sigil, not will have to be the

same intention than you. So I've always been the idea of the idea of a better create you

with a very powerful and he's going to have much more more force. So, is because

if you use them that you do you don't you use as well, and then

we'll get to get to the reverse all the ritual. Look at what you

this person that is Leslie Medina 84-46 says can use to protect to the

gargola and a Santa Mort at the same time? It's

a good question. I think yeah, but first you know, obviously you know,

you know, maybe you did a last time and you know, well, now I want

to have a gargola. If you you're very devot of the Santa,

you have to ask you. It's like, oh, me does permit,

to have another protection and if you say that if you say, no,

no. No, you move. No, you know, because at the final of the day, it's like, okay, and then he'll be to protect. There's never, we'll see. All right. Always has to exist.

In all the rituals, protections, all what you do, you always need to ask you. And certiorate of that what you're doing is correct. Look, says this person, Sares 77,

what happens with the gargola if the dukeye moire? That is a grand, grand question. As a total, if you were you used for protection, I think

that also can't protect to your next generation, no, to your house. Not as well, I have a gargola and nothing more me will serve for me. Okay. It's a, but also, it's for all, you know, you didn't know, that's, for all right? And we're

only to the person that came to contiguous, but the sound was here. Yeah, for that too, also, too. And there started the things for here, my We're talking We're talking of things

very very tough but this this is interesting because if I mean it's good that it's

that also and also say you know the family those who don't know of this thing and simply

they want to do you have much careful not it's not it's for that you do it

and so they're doing and well as well as well how well we said Richard

busken help for that so no pass nothing and at

final something something that you they're for benefit, not it's a

maldition. Imagineate to have a a ser that yeah invocated, that you did this force,

that you did it to your own and that you're doing, or the worst, if you have

kids in house, oh, no, no, no, forget it. And precisely as you

did you to do you not only you know it's you, it's a more your family,

to all those who live in your house. So, so can start those

to affect to all to us. That's Fuerte. That theme me enchanted

because I don't know, I know, I know, I'm a new, and it's interesting because

I don't know I was, I don't know I didn't. I know of the aloches, of the dweens, but the

gargolas is a thing that is a de-beer, but it's interesting, then I'm to talk

with people like you that have this knowledge. Look, this comment before to

go to Guadupe Sanchez, says, the gargola can pass the duon if you

you not can't you can't have? Yes. All protection can

pass as a duke, but we'll always with respect and have to ask you. Or there

have to be sure to be the decision correct. Why? Because, for example,

if I have a gargola of protection and I don't I want to go and

I'm and I do, it will be to be a perjudic to me. Sure.

You're you're trying. Exactly. It's you're trying. It's voting and it was like, okay, I mean, I was

I'm trying, I'm trying, and at the final of the day, you've decided to me. So, there you go. Ooh, no,

well, so much of no? There's a question for there, or what you've seen? No,

I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to, let's see, that's, is that we're, it's where we're, it's where we're

what we're normally, the people, well, practically, commentant. A ver, this,

one person, Dice, look. Ah, no, no, no, no, no, I can't

hear. It's good. Because, I'm a family of a gargola. It's me. No,

no, that's bad a bond. No, banches. But, well, it's a but, but

well, but, but well, do you do you? Sure, that's let's, let's go,

okay. Okay, we're going, because here, before, before to get us to get us

to a court, let's practically to talk a history a interesting,

this story for the person that you have a rattito in the podcast

they're going to recognize and I know the I'm I'm a lot of

the stories very interesting of gargolas because this occurred in the United

has at the initials of the 2000s finales of the years of

the years 900 so a person that is of Mexico so go

with with this place, they're to work in the industry of the

construction, you know, constructs, build a maintenance to house, cabs, and found

like a company, these friends. So, they were contracting more

people, and so their company was growing very in the

United, a company that was used by people Latinas, so

they started to work very very very well, and they started very

and they they're a called for part of a company that's dedicated to

have to have these places in zones mountainousas I've got cabas or more

said they're in cabas or they're in cabas where the people go rent and you

want to get to a end of a time you want to

you want to you want to you mention that there a

cabin that was a near the of the

one of the most great but also one of the most lehannas to give the water

when I'm when I'm then the detail is that this place where they were in these cabas

was a little and this person that was made the poste that the

person is that the problem is that we're at this place we need to we're

to get to get to get to get to the grand distance that there and they

were those said the first day, the duke, the dewean was waiting,

he's he's, they've got a lot, with the equipment, and everything, and all,

to work in this cabna. Here there's a lot because he says,

this, we're working, or, working in the day normal, he said, this,

we're about it in four days, in hornad from, from the morning,

until when there's the sun, four days, because they were going to

keep a part of the sensation in the cabana very pesada. Something feo, it's like

we're not not we're even like, even like that they didn't even reason, and they were

there's there was a thing that was like affecting, you know, like it was like you

want to be and say, we're going to do this place, but we're to terminate the job

and what what they decided to do work work more longas. Normally, we're

at the 5th of the time, because he had to knowcheser, but we're nother but we went to the 10 of the night.

Dice, yeah, all was too was too, so practically we were, we used, we composed the

light of the cabna, but at times the light fallia, so there were many errors and we're

we're still and we said that the first night that passed around they were working,

they were working into this cabana and And they've heard how something that's

it's in the techo like the blow, no? Okay. He's he's got how the

maderas retumban and they're like looking like one to other of what was that.

And it's curious because they said no, there were something that there were not, no.

So, this, they were doing they're working to go the next day it's

agarra the night and they said that they were they're working and they're listening

like this typical rude, not this sound like of a but it's like more gross,

it's much more more than a lot of a lobo, but very very strong also.

It's like, no see, it's like an abe desperated or very with the very profound

the soundido. It's very very strong and he says that they're looking and

And like, no they knew what did, no they said, so the

really, we're doing, we're doing, we're going to be the light. So, it was the

light, no, a short-circuite, so, it's, it's, he said, I'm,

I'm, my company, my friend, is a, out of our vehicle stationed, our carionette,

with the carmionette, and I'm kept, and I normally, normally, normally,

like, I'm a casco, then I could be all. Of the first I

went to the entrance in the window, I'm a my friend, I'm in

my friend and I say, oh yeah, pass me that the person, and the

friend, and the friend, and then just only he was his back,

but it was like a more more than the normal, and he he'll

say, oh yeah, pass me that the friend, and the

The interesting of this is when it's when he's the back of the of the amigo, of the amygian, so, they're in two alas like

of mursi-a-o. And, and he'scuched how this person or this ser, abe the book and will be emit

that sound again. In that moment he's a leteo very strong and it's heard how it's over the

techo and practically something something like the image that is already in

the picture because he says that he's called the gritty of his man who he says he says

they're in a carionette arrancann and say they've seen a person practically humanoid

with a rostro like of murcielago alas of murcielago in the techo of the cabna and he

was there and he was but he he said that they're they're they're they're

they're they're and that this to letear and he says that they're they're looking and he's

going to above of them and they're that they're they're they're to get to the part

from the entrance to the cabas where there had various trees, you know there's not

there was the and like what's what's what's what is what is what

is what is what is what is what is what is a thing the only

that I'm the only that I'm And nobody wanted to come to come to and he said

but it's why not because what is what is what is what is what you know we said is that we said

it's not the other we've been there have been people who have been people who they're not

coming here because they're this sound that emite this animal they're

they're like an animal but this person that he's and still

working in the US Units in their company of construction practically

it was a talk about it about what he was a five meters and he said it's that was a

person, the spalda see like a person much more more than a person

a promedio very corpulent very very very like musculosos if you want to be so and

with alas but no it's simply emits soundid of his book and is one of

the stories that they're that Correo, yeah, of the most old and that

me impressioned much because, you know, we're not we're going to get to the place, I didn't

get to the I mean, you know, I don't want to they're going. No, so that's

something very very rare, and, and, and so, not very confused. What is

that's that's supposed that's the famous man, the man, Polilla, and they

are these things these phenomena very raros. Yeah, And here is curious because I'm, I suppose

that this gargola had more form like humanoid, not? Also, to be this, well, disfrasarse

between the people and that you know to give us to give us that you're so, so, if you

put to think, that you just there in the image, it seems more like a demonio. It's a

demonio. For that also, there comes that all the people them fear

or they're that they're they're not just you know, just not just to

start it yeah just like something you know I'm not so I'm don't know

so the person of this story well the the duke is conscious of that but

not he comment about to nobody imagine no what fear because I'm

to say is that to those that they don't want to come and so people

whesp that they'd and retarded these cabas decided to hear these these areas in these

zones in this area of the United that is very high, that's

that's a lot a round a animal very peculiar very rare with a appearance

quite quite quite. It's a thing a thing very very

very very very very so. And we let's send us

send us because there many people that have there have

had had experienced with with gargolas. Look, for example, the terrible... Jorge,

says, present. Paco, much thanks. He's, will, they'll, the gargolas? I think no.

No, I, well, so, only, they're not, I think that's, I think,

maybe, between them, it's not, at the final of day could be a form of communication

different to that we're we're used okay, look, here, here,

there, there, there, there, he's, Jose, that says, Well,

thanks, Saludas, Saludas, from the from this. Saludos, after yeah. Saludos,

also, we know, we know, we know, we know, people of Venezuela, Maria Bracamontes

956, saludos, about Venezuela. Muchismas. Look, we know, we're doing a Medusa.

Hello, how you know, Medusa? Hello, Saludos. Hello, thank you,

for us to be here here, here, now, now, two, no saludits

to a bit, uh, well, Saludus to Diana Serrato who comments that he has

that he he's working in construction after altas hours of the night and that oh and he's great of

God you know it's got to see how good that's good because then you know it's not so it's

and more if you'll listen this podcast then then you're things and then they're

rather than they're exactly it's a classic yeah Alba Ortiz Salus

from Cucuta Colombia, much thanks. Saludos, Alva. Saludos,

also we're here. Salus to Argentina. For E. Jullirish, I think

that's it says. Saludos, much thanks. Saludos. Look, it's,

in a church of Ecuador, there's many ghargolas. Oh, what interesting, not so yeah.

Abria to go to go to investigate. It would be a general, not, for why put

gregulas there is there what's saying. Saludos to El Salvador.

Saludos to Nebraska also. Many thanks for start with us over us. Saludos

also to Iscali. Much thanks for start with us. Saludos to Wisconsin.

Oh, look at New Mexico. Thank you. Salus to New Mexico also for Carmina

Delgado, much thanks. And more people of Venezuela. That's chido,

that's great, that's in we're also to Uruguay much

thanks. The The fact, there are more histories and a bit of situations that

have passed in Mexico with people who like the people, they've seen that they were gargolas in

some areas areas and some areas of the areas. But if not you want to

get these stories, we're to this first court. For far,

no you go. Be for more botana, preender the light, and you go to

go. It's the moment. And we don't go. Let's go.

We're with the second this theme, for favor, let's with the

next theme. U. that story is a interesting because

it's one of the zones where in Mexico is that are that are

vistas in zones very altas. The gargola of

the serro. That story me that's a colleague

and he said that also he made fascinated because

he has passed in these zones that is about

The carreterer, but over the Pista that's in Puebla, to Mexico, the Autopista, Mexico, Puebla, where then then there's things there there, with the vivos. Well, there also has been a zone

where they've been seen these, and this history, he'll be the story, he'll tell, because me said that, he's a parkech, practically they're in, in coming to Mexico,

van, they're from Puebla to Mexico, and in in some moment of the carreterer he wants to carry gasoline

says that he gets to a gasoliner if I do the the kilometer the really the

intention not is that to talk more of the gasoline or not yeah yeah

but but if no no no matter and he says that he he gets and he

doesn't well to start it was it was normally in these zones

there there's that then there are like tienditas or these super where you can buy a

coffee, a botan food, food, the banos and then there's people,

not, people, and he says that when he gets to this gasoliner was like

all over all the lights, this famous super like it was so far

the and the banos were closed and only there

only a only one one very strange of what what's

what's what's what's he went the and so he's not he's

he's so much he he's carga gasolina was the pista

very solitaria so is like if it was a film or

so all solitario all obscure no no no

no practically it was like literally being a little

the detail is that the is that that your spouse

needed to go to the detail is that the bathroom was in and things

so so they're talking with this employee and they said there was another

that was in service but that was of the employees but was in

the part of the back of the bathrooms that you yeah

colindas with with a well and the back it was

it was it's that when when they're when can well, there

alumbrondos and, and, well, he says that he's a house, he gets out of like all

a caballier, not, who's doing, that no, I'm doing, yeah, and yeah, that's the

time, no? And he said, the truth, it was, he said, there was a neblin, and he

said, he was, there with his telephone, when, of this sonido, that is like

if it was like if were of a baby, a grassnido, and he said that he,

was all all, I don't see nothing, but he's a little more the mirab. And, like, a 20 meters of altitude,

see, another time, we, we know, this figure, humanoid. Obviously, then, no, he'll be

the rostro, because it's a dark, so, is a sombra, but if you see the silhoueta humanoid, alas,

and he says that he gets totally impressioned. So, so, so, so, so, he's got in

in shock, He says that her spouse And he said It's like if he had He said, it's like if he He said

He said, He said, He said, he said, He said, he He said, What, he said, So, his spouse in the

Ba'o and he, he can't respond. Mentiona that his husband says and he he's totally

I go, and is when she he's a vista for the part of the top, and they're literally the same.

So, this Ser is abienta like that it's abient over them and imprende to go to

hear that that's a leteo because it's a lotteo because it's a lot of a lot of the

enormous They're they're this sound of the aleteo very and

he says that his wife in this moment so he literally carrying to

his spouse I know I don't know what was he literally literally

or I corro I or the rastro or what I do? I mean, no I know what's the only that he kept, what he does many people, when maybe you know there's an option, cerrars the eyes and restar the first that you

do you know, the Father Nuestro, the Angelito of the Guarda, the credo, the credo, so, what that is, what say, and so, and so, he said

he said that he heard how these these alleteers abentabed, these, like rafagas of air. And he, even says,

we know, that rafaga of air, really those assas were very very fertes. And he

says that he opened the eyes after a rato and see how this thing was going to be more,

and literally he was in a serro in Puebla, in the Carretera Mexico, Puebla.

He's says that his wife practically reactiona allterated what happened, like

always, no Nobody saw The employee. I don't see nothing. No, there's

like it's like it's like a little a little. So, all, all in silence, in persons,

in neblinia. And who know if these ambients be put or they are in

these situations or was casuality? No. So, you, what do you think?

I think that the casualities no exist. In nothing. So, always the

things pass for a place, although we're not we know we're

but that it was a reason to be, not? Maybe, it was not were

the hours adequate in those they were there. For suor't it not.

No, no passed to more than the no, but in this case, you what

thought is that was that was that? Really was a gargola or was other

other thing? I was was that could have been like a kind of a kind of a vampire, or also can't be some demonio.

Me comment, is that he's the same the same characteristic. Ah, it's a sound. Well, the sound

that makes. I think could be a a gargola for, basically for the characteristics and the

sound. No, because if we're about the other entities, then they're characteristics

different, no, the vampires or the demonios, no, I think that all the

The same Rewid characteristic of the cargola. So, yeah, also I feel

that the gargolas or, well, of the stories that we've been about this and only with that

you're going to you get a paralyzed. Even when you were the story, I imagined that I was the

man there, I said, no, no. And what is supposed that should be a person if

get to see a person if well, well, the optimal would be to have

a cargues with you, no, as a protection for gargolas, but, but, but, one in general, no, that is something that I recommend always, always, try a protection

this, for whatever thing, a collier, an talisman, a pulser, or if you know, some, um,

some, I know, some reason why, they're not necessarily have to be recos, catholic or Christian, as,

as it was inculcaron our, our families but it's it's been something that has taken to some

or that you you're doing valid for protection Yeah, is that nobody is that probably

to be able to and is that I'm going to I'm going to say the other way to the people that's

you know, you know, you know, so be that's like two years, more of those

years, we've been an episode of a book that is Christian that has much revelation and that talk of things that are in fiction, but are

reales. The book, me seems he's called, El Bino to give liberty to the Cautivus of Rebecca Brown. The fact, we took us. The second past, with our invitation, that we made a great abrazo, and this person who started to read this book, assurua that one gargola

entered to his room, and he he was, and not was dormido. Literally, I go to my house to work, all over my door, and I'm at my door, and there's this thing there.

And he almost two meters, almost getting to the techo, very corpulent,

very great and but with an agility impressionant, he's out of the window and

and so he said he, that he in that episode, no, I'm

I've been more than two years, so the episode me probably,

we talk, we're we're, we're, we're the books, and not that's

that's a maldito as total, but the people that get to learn, if they're

experiencing things like it's a book, well, it's a book, well,

they're they're reveling certain things very fertes. So, many times even they're

things, or, or that go out of that corriently, there's much magic in all this,

there's, there's, there much occultism also, that obviously, for certain

interests, they've been accepted to say, the things are so this is all the contrary, it's like, no, no,

that's, no, that's no, that's not, but those people are, those who have more

energy, those that have more more more knowledge, yeah, of things more

more practical, because if you put to be to those books, well, approbated,

are more like stories, not as kind of, okay, look, you want, you want,

you want, you want, you want, you want, invocar a thing so it okay

and fiftate well something something I'm also I'm talking about there's a there's a

there's questions there people who people who wrote on their on Instagram

I I'll I'll I'll say for you know that's what is

what is the people in this moment for favor production says how

how question. Recurreden that all of the energy will depend of the

intention. So, not it's like I think, ah, energy good, I'm here

energy bad, and here energy mal. At the final of day, it's

energy, but you decide how you you're to use, obviously,

if you want, if you want, you're to have some kind of

talisman or some receptacle that you get to receive

like all the goal of that the energy to

you you could transform in something that obviously that talisman

should have been a previa okay that's interesting because

that's that time we talked too the last because our meeting

us if they get attacks or envidias or things negative

and if you know transmutar that energy to to

you can you can have an impulse very interesting so

is, uh, also depends of how you find you, of your state animical, of your state

of your state of all that, because at final of the day, if you're you're going to do you're

more susceptible to the energy. Okay? So, we're, we're, if you let's energy to

someone that's passing for a depression, will be much more more easy that person

receive that energy because no, no, not is not so is protecting

with nothing. As is. A we're also we're a great

protection. But never we don't know to think in this. It's correct.

Let's with the next question, for favor? Sure. That's what

what you do what you do what you do you do you do you do you

do? What most I'm is just that is just that, like

to discover the because okay. It's very very spirituals, the

work, all this is very beautiful, at least from my perspective, it's

something that it's all that's all this to investigate the why, of being

looking in literature, to find where it's how it was evolution how you

you can use to your favor or of what you have to get to

that's the part bonita like how start to start to the

because the thing okay no is not not to have a

thing critical and to talk questions, no, no, of actually, all the

contrary, I'm that in all this should have to be a thing that

because there's there on the internet that, they're they're

incorrect, no, or that they're going, and a sometimes the people

get to that's like, no, if I'm, the cross of the thing,

I'm going to this, this, and the other, it's an example, but many

times not is disinformation. So, it's when I always say, I read different

fountes, not you keep with one. Why? Because so you're going to start to

generate that's thinking, and say, okay, yeah 30 authors me said

that's this. Ah, well, it's a maybe he's not, maybe he

not, he's not, he's not I'm doing different, or I know the always

always have to be question the because. Okay, it's interesting,

and that So that is what some religions don't like. That you have that

that's critical, that formulares these questions because you get to you're going to say they're

there. Yeah, so they are like, oh, okay, this is a messita coffee and

yeah. No, you know, not you questiones the because it's a because it's

a mess, what's that's doing there, for what that is, no, you only

just, well, and then, so there is when there's enter this part of, okay,

a me to investigate more, why is there the table, who's the person has, how can it

can't use, I can't talk, me aloe, no? I can't disarm and arm other thing. Exactly.

That's the point. That's the question, for favor? Dice, how is it how is relation

to the alchemia with other practices hermetic or esotericas? It's a very, very good

a question. The alchemia saliered many rams. You know, you know, historically, the alchemia and

the chemica were like, friends. Of there the other the medications that... From there

these famous pharmacos or medications, but for questions gubernamental for questions you know,

you know, the iglesia, religion, and that's ramas of the alchemia, of the chemical, etc. And, from here these practices.

Of course, Hermes, the three-beces Grand, or Tris? The three-beces Grand. What, what? What, Titole?

Tremegist. Yes. When, when you let, you say, Ah. Achilles, I'm going to cross-al. I mean, I think, parentices.

I've always have said, I'm always that every time that you know, every time you understand you're something. Just, I,

go, three days that I leo the and, and like, something not me kind of clear and I'll let me say, exactly. Like,

you're going to every more. So, from the first that Ermes started to do all these

practices, that put his rules, that put us his leges, et cetera, and there he's

to derivate all. Obviously, with the past of time, to people that were

in the power, not they were not that all this should be at the

time, they oprimed to many many of much religions or many practices, much of

the knowledge that yeah that's he had he borrough only

only for to have convenience of certain sectors or groups and here is when

they're all these books, all this literature if you you put to investigate

to all philosophers or great people and they're

they're they're they're astros plantas and not they're they're not

they're like the mathematics Also, also also studied philosophy. It was very vast the

knowledge and I feel that at the final of the day that's what we have to do a lot of everything.

Exactly. Not to get with a only one one of investigate. Exactly. That not

so I only think in sciences exact. Or I only think in spirituality or I

don't know in nothing. No, then we have to start to all and see you

serve and that's commentary. I'd say I would put my gargola, Hermes. Thomas. For that

he agarre more power. That's good. We're going to the next question. For example,

production. And see, what relato you've impacted more? What I've impacted?

Well, of those that we said, or in general? In general. Because that is a secret.

That's a secret. Until that they're to start in the episodes. I'm

me they're to talk about about possessions but also

a level a little more more more than in the movies of you

know what they they're they're they're they're they're they're

they're they're they're in the eyes when when they when they

they're like stories of that type or also the story that you

comment about that disappeared and that's used to for rituals and all that's

that's for me is impactant because they're they're at the final to the

kids cuted for so so say and accommodated in a position in a

certain place for that that's a little so so at

final of the day are stories that they're they Because no

know in what moment is going to do you or if he could pass to

some people that's people who are the people who there are many people there are

so say and they use and they use literally what they they're they're

they're they're they're so they're so I'm so so quite because

I think that's what you do this you're right? I think because

it's a thing, it's a thing, it's a thing that's about, and that's not any of

a drama it's in YouTube. I don't for the people that yeah, I'm able

to find more later not, but yeah, but yeah will be the

the next question for forward? How was your spirit spiritual?

I'm I'm, I'm at the didn't so, you're a

septic He was sceptic. It was a lot of sceptic. And more because I studied chemica. Also, then, there derives the name of the grand alchemist.

Okay. So, I was very sceptic until that they started to pass certain things. Oh, so,

until that the life said, here is real. I said, no, well, that of the mortals and

the demons, that no-se- no- can't pass, no exist. No exist. But it's like they're

like, no crees until that you pass. Tal qual. That's that's

our ditch of here, no? Respecting to those who don't because

we're that's that they're not. Exactly. And for that's no, yes,

it's respect. I respect whatever thinking of, you know, I've

encountered with much people atthea, Catholic, Jews, Christians, of all

the religions, and I don't just at the final of day, you are

free in what you want you want to be a way a little was a way a

way a little a little pesed because it was like if me

did it a catchetada and I don't have to respond so

because it was like all all so all all all

all and yeah I have to adapt to this

new and it's something I can I can

come in your start spiritual or want to start in that

way they have to disapprend much. They have to disapprend to learn.

Tal qual. And, of the one of the pathos in the cult of the masones.

So, you know, to make, to strengthen, to startlecer your creencia and then

to destroy it to build it, I mean, it's a piece very interesting. So,

you know, you have to be, you know, and you say, you know, that this

mess can transform in other something if you if you do so

you do you do do you do you do you because if you know you're

going to you're going to do this we're not questions production let

get one one another uh but there is that

that you're you're surprised more in your spiritual

as now uh ohle what is what is what me has

passed in my what is what is what my has surprised in my life

spiritual until now. So many things I imagine. Yes,

many many things. So, at sometimes at time to

do you do the energy that is move, see a people

how it's dismay or how they pass certain

things or car of energy is it's impactant

because many times you don't you you're there like, no see,

doing your ritual or you're in a form more more natural, no? I've

talked to that I'm told that I'm going to the other day, they're the blas explotated,

at times my consultory all tired. I mean have passed many things that, that's

like, okay, okay, okay, we're going to see what I'm going to be what I'm

doing. That's interesting. I go, you're going to do you know? Sure, you're going to and you're

to know and you're to know that's something that's something that's that's interesting that's questions that the audience for the audience

for the audience and it's about your and I'm and you know to see you also as time as a podcast

extra-normal and yeah if you like to see me for you back Kaurias 369

and we we're going with the question for favor we're going we're going to the

second because I want to talk this gargula that is so very famous in Mexico

the famous gargola of Chimaluacan and is that users started to well to share this image of a gargola that's in a

house is like an edificio of three-pissos a gargola enormous of more of two three meters of altitude

that is there users have been many videos photographs in red social and as

And as we We're going to gargolas, but no I want to that's because there

people, I'm going, obviously the dukeye just made all the things that they're saying,

because they say magic, that gargola of the night, it's a or like, or like,

or like, or like, or like, or like, even there's a video that, we're going to do you're going to

do you're going to be a movement like, as a, like, like, like,

like, of a gargola is more like a movement part of how it's constructed, we're going to be, and right you're saying. Sure that's. I want to present attention in the

a la. Ah, yeah. I, I, I, I think that that was, or that could have been, obviously, well, for the air, but, if you need to be, how it's, how you're made, how is it made? I know, I've passed out of there. Okay, okay, okay. In fact, there's, I think, there's a place of tacos. Yeah, the fact, the gargola is the duenio of the place of tacos.

The place of tacos. No, oh, this gargola, no, that can't move the air. No? No. So, that's, no. So that, that's not the air? That's not

the air. So, that gargola is of a piece, a piece, a peter, peter.

Okay. So, no, no, you know, not you're like, it's like,

like, a lot of a lot of, and it's, no, that, and also, that's, it's a position

like, sitting with the salas so, vigilando. For this, right, that I mean,

the video, I said, oh, yes, if it's, and it's some people can be

an illusion optica, not is That, I mean, so, if there's a movement by part, for that I said, it could be the air, but you, that you, that's not, you know, that's not, no, no, it's not move the air. No, that no, no, move the air.

You know, I've passed over there. This, for there, this, for there, hebe, too, one of my brothers, and he says that those tacos are very good, parintesis. But, yeah, no, the gargola is of the pietra, and I've been there, yeah, a long time, and so inamovable.

It's that, I mean, I want much the attention, obviously, because the people that go, he takes photos, they call the attention because it's normal. Because one person, I'm going to put a gargola enormous in my techo,

and, over all, to know, how they did you want to be used to be able to be a machinery pesada to do it. No, and, you know,

if you're done in that image that they put in on the screen, it's, is, is, it's, it's, is, it's, is,

it's, is, it's, So, no... Halalah, obviously, obviously, uh, so,

very well ensembled to the body. So, no is any articulated the statue or

something, you say, oh, well, you can move. Exactly. It's,

it's very strange. So, but I want to mention some of the things that

about about the famous gargola of Chimal Wakan, because that some people say

that the property, uh, that's at that's a thing, that's a thing,

and it's has been made for him, but I want to say what he's

comment a much, that was a person that was aficionated of this type of

figures and that he he just put her but the people mentioned that

he was he was a time to make a and that this figure

as a way as a time as a part of a ritual magical

and how did things that that was that was that was

that was is out-exposed and that also works as a protection and as a vigilante. So, other people say that function as a protection because a one side is the Cerro of Chimal-Wakan, which is where

there's things for normal, it's very forties. And it's like a method of protection for his family. This is what you say, but the the owner of, yeah, he said, no is certain. A me, I mean, me are just, simply, I pay

a ching of money to, for to have in the tench of my And yeah, no question more. You, what do you find is of that? I think

that's in negation. Because I think, I've said, I've passed many times

over there, yeah it's a year, that gargola, and so in that same position

as it's in the video, I've seen a one and so, also, if you

know, it's like it's like it's kind of kind of kind of, the

coelel, that's that's because it's encaddened of exactly. Because the things

They have a form For some reason Or so, no, they're That's, oh, yeah, well, they put it in the Cadena for that they

be able to be able to. I, I, I, I think fielment that can be to be able

to help that house, to the taqueria because also has been many years there,

and then, and then, you know, you're going to you're going by that way, and you know,

from the and you're so okay. The interesting is that there people that are

on the night, obviously, is an avenue, and they're saying that this thing and not only only move the salas, move the head, move the body,

and this is practically quite quite quite quite quite there's a much people, I mean, it's an avenue where transited

many vehicles in the state of Mexico, and then they can see. And just there is an avenue principal.

Uh-huh. So, is it is a lot transited, but more than in the nights it's a

vacill. So, it's a lot in the night and the light

not is very good. So I think it has the conditions optimal to move

to move to see that I'm attention is that you

mentioned you know more more than gargola appears demonio so

for it's humanoid rostro umas of the urs of really really has

appearance of the figure, well, of a demonio. So, not as a lot of a gargola. That's, to me give the

attention, because for that the people mention a thing with the duke, is a thing more of occultism,

satanism, if you want, so you're in you, it would be, that he only said, no,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, but no we're really,

those were those were those were those were using, for, for protection, Well, at the most,

like, for that it's a in your, in your business, and just like, it's like

a demonio encadenaed. Exactly. That's what is what is more than a gargola is a demonia.

Well, nothing, no, we didn't try to talk this thing, because many people

are about this gargola that's in the state of Mexico in a third piece, simply for,

according the duke, for decoration, because he got to but yeah. But if you put

to think because no has nothing to be the post of the tachos that has the sir

with the gargola. Or, it's like a taqueria thematic or that you say,

well, there's more decoration so, no, nothing. It's the only

symbol or statue in this case that is so there. No, no, no,

there's any other reference to things gothic or of occultism, nothing. So I

think the there is there I go, there's to say, we'll see if we're doing if we're a question

of this? Sure, to see? To be, to know, how many of those who are you

are doing this think that the duke-in- the duke- or how- people who people think that if

there is a reason mystica or magic, detras of this gargola. And we're to leave it

to see that the moment vote in the comments here in the chat in the chat in

the chat in- live because I'd like to know, and over all because many

people think that the movement of the is an illusion optica, not is

an illusion optic. For the form, for the angle, no is illusion

optica, but I get to think that was the more for the air but I

can't clear that is a pietra or so it's interesting that, no, no,

it's interesting. And apart to comeento I've passed just for there, for that

angle of where it's not Although you goys passing, no see that does be that doble.

All the time has been equal. I mean. I mean. I mean, they're here for favor

with the encuest, production, for favor, to know just what the people.

Because, says, the story of the story of the do you know doesn't much respect

for the do you, but is what the people opinion, no. So,

so, well, for decoration. I'm to have a gargola of decoration.

He said no, and nobody, you imagine. No, and of two meters, of more of two meters? No, I mean, that gargola is impressionately great. Jose, you can't see, still even if you see the attackeria, but you have

seen the gargola. Okay, okay, we're going to, and there is the encuest to see, protection for the doggio? Well, really it was for adorn, or for something more? But, let's see what's what you opinion. Yeah, are 2234

votes, we'll see what is what the people I mean it's the well it's well it's

he's gonna in how it's costed that's a sculpture brother? No, I don't

any idea so more than two meters in the just all the

the the transporter the the subir and they're

so they are so they are it's so it's so it's so

Yeah, is, it's a beautiful, this is a bad in what it but I don't see, I think, I think it's quite, I'm sure, I'm

sure, I'm a good bit bit about, you know, you know, and they're about 400 votes,

a rottito more and we're getting the encuester because, this, yeah, it's very

reneed, no, and apart is like, it's like, it's like, in the chat, that they say,

who'd get a lot for a gargola. Exactly. Yeah, there are people that that's good and has

adornes and that car, but no, I know a gargola like a gigante outside of your taqueria no, no, I don't

see me said, well, all the taqueria has that thematic, no? It's gothic and this obscure,

and it's all the logic of the world. Sure, but no, the taqueria even is naranja no.

We're going to get the question to see what is what you know, and to what they're

to vote to vote that chido, those who not Approvechin, while it's the

because we go to the next time. It's a way to give us tablas.

Tables. 50% that is practically for adorn or if a case of protection

and the 50% that is a little paranormal. It's too really renyed

eh the the encuestes to have been been really very

regied so interesting let let's let's let's let's

let's the this is the theme that I want to talk,

the catacumbas of Paris. Why I bring this thing? I'm a friend

me who want to a Cappi and Aririan of Mystery Word that had

been in this place, one of the other of the other most

mistic paranormal that was a center also for for a for

movies and for why why came this thing of the

catacumb of Paris to the thing of the

carrag We know that the catacumbas that are in this place is a place very grand, very amplio that literally you can't,

or if you addentras more than what these catacumbas have their part touristic, not those who can get to

visit and get to the part where are the bones, the cranes but there are

more, still much more where you not is so explored and that even a

person that not has a experience, you you're and what you're

you think you know, because you're in a labyrinth with a

little oxygen no without water or maybe if water but water

so as this without light without there there

there are there not see say it correctly but

it's like the access because yeah to this

place to this place, more a lot of the limits, it is

dangerous, and it's necessary. And there people, explorators urban, that say,

I'm, I'm implemented some things, and our friends of Mr. Ior,

have gone to places where has seen their videos, how

pass on for little little agus so is, it's

how it's, I'm, I'm a part to another for a

other, and they were They've been more to 48 hours, I think, in that place, in this place.

So, it's impressionant the amount of hours that were there were doing there, obviously

were with some ministers, much lamps, light, lanterns, food, and they're to enter into

to this place. The interesting is that there are people that get to a

point that not is explored obviously, and these people are sure that

that there is where abitans some people reptiloids or reptilianos with an appearance of gargolas that these

or these these or creatures are there are occulted in the obscurity living,

coexisting out of the plan social if you want to see you are so

they're so alimenting of the residues of all this and that many people have been

and that are these same that the same Vatican has captured and that they have used them using those as a guardian

of their information. So, it's supposed that in this zone, in these catacumbas, in the

most profound of these catacumbas is where exist in these beings. A-

see, this is a current that's a lot in this zone for explorators

there people that has done his testimony that has sure that they're seeing

and they're like murcielagos enormous with the skin scamosas they're like a

description very precise and that emitting other these these sounds

so specific like of the but very very fertes what you think you think

of that it's a thing quite because it's a invulucra

to the church and completely of I don't know. I mean, I feel that the church uses things of this type, or

entities, or seres, of this type, to the favor. But, like, for one side, they say, no, this is malo, and no, you know, but for the other other side, they're they're using, so? Exactly.

So, here comes, like, this duality, no, of... So, so, are bados, or not are so, so, is when yeah, the people start to have those doubts. Or, because they're up magic, if it's supposed that the magic is the

Diablo. Because so is what they say it's what they're in. Yes. And at the final

of the day, we'll talk to the time of a little that in the church

always a magic from the protections, the restos, the palms, the water

bendita, the how they do the element. All, all, all, so it

all, they put in a way different and they're saying, well, it's that this

is for Diosito. Yeah, what you do you do is pagano but obviously is something that also it's something

that's even for those tunnels that you mentioned of the catacumbas and that's because there can

desplas these people. Of actually it's they're doing it they're doing. And so so you're

so you say, well who can't be to be to be able for there if one apennas

if you pass arastrandos or with difficulties and no I think that someone

pass for there is what that's all the time. So, I want to go to even about about the

theme of the catacumbas of Paris, that I'll repeat. Much explorators are sure that here

have been gargolas and that have been living millions and years of the beings of the

humans, practically. The actually, even the same the same the same, I would use

the gargolas for protection. To that that's going. To that at the final of day,

this said, it's It's about that you serve to protect to care, to care,

because they're not using them and at final it's like, if it's iconography that is

to get to but also we're to benefit to us to we're going to put a video,

for favor production this Cheo help us for there for for a put us the

reportage there there, no see if you saw you you said there was

that there was a Mexico that advertia to gargolas So I

said if no you have seen No, that's if I'm so for a

production can put it okay you're you're you're you're

you're to mention it for for favor Abitants of people

Abitants of diverse parts of the country report an apparition of a land of more of two meters of altitude, and as they're expulsed residents to alt Abitants of diversed parts of the country report, the apparition

of a ser alado, of more of two meters of altitude, and how it exposed residents of Altamira. Investigators, they may be reproducing. The apparition

of Ceres Alados not only has reported in the community the Prietas of the Municipio of Altamira in Tamolipas, but also in Veracruz, and of form constant in the valley of Mexicali and in Baja California, so it's a lot of the investigator Stalin-Vayy Osuna, who assurua that has dedicated six years of his life

to indigar about this rara creature, for what, to accord evidences and declarations of testigos, thinks that could try to according to the cryptosology modern of a

species of a quite can start muting but so about reproducindos because that they've

detected testicles the what result well that's a part of the reportage we're going if not

we don't in the in vivo for put it but to there are there people

and is what they say there people that are that Now, in what zones have seen in what zones

of Mexico? Here I have the notation that is about in Altamira, in Tamalipas, Veracruz, in the valley of Mexical

and in Baja California, in the state of Mexico and parts of the city of Mexico.

Also, here is one one of the places because it's in the Carretera of the

Rumorosa that, you know, you know this carreter Well, much history,

no, of the actions that have happened. And what have happened?

Family entire, as the reportage, I was reading and investigating about this

reportage and about the testimonies entire saw a this

and for there said, they said a little strange because they're

that is a manch because they're found that had this

apparel reproductor masculine And, well, they're practically for their life because not is like a legend

but there is. It's going and it's been moving, he's been going and they are in other corrientes

even like the man polilla, the man pacharro and what it's about because if there are

in Mexico that they are these humanoids with alas or of pacharos or alas

of murcielagos. This is impressive I don't know I could when I saw when I saw I don't

I'm sure I know I'm and they're in the testimonials and those invite to you know because

what I said one person is we're in the night and we see we're we're very

very very very very so man in the sky and they

see a humanoid volando in direction practically to the serrania

to the mountains there there another testimony of a

woman that said that they they were in the rumorosa and they

did a point that there was this but they they said something they're

that they that's a ser had a ability of camouflage but like this

he was not he they're they said we're we're a man a person

human that's that was taping like with the sun like

with some like was like was he was involved so

so it's it's like literally like that he got the sun what happened in the stories of the bruchas

not, that he got the sun the morning and was like with the salas taping,

we said, we're we're and all the family that came in the vehicle was a

testigo when this was this said he was, he was he could not he could

not so can't do you know, and they're going to see you're a lot of allas

all the family, children, all the people, they're they're like

no That interesting. And is that it's very curious because if you put to think to think it in the fiction,

it's always they're going to they're in the nightes. So, they're, they're, they're,

and when it's like, you know, I'm going, and I'm going, and I'm going to get my posse.

Uh-huh. I suppose that all this has a lot to do, so at the final of day, in

the night, I'm, I'm sure they're not optimal conditions to move because the people

not can be able to be able to like the mursiagos even even their vision

could be much more in the night so that's also imagine

that if if you imagine that if you would have got gargolas volando

liberment there would be maybe maybe maybe they'd or that's

there's there's there's there there's some maybe some some

maybe trytel and we we're going to investigate or we're going to capture her. At the final

of the day are things that are people are not. There's a question very good

and that I'm in the moment me the question, a gargola could be a gawal?

I think that if can get to get to obviously. Yes, I think that there

can get to get to not that a gargola be a a wag so that a gawal

with a gawal with a garg Ah, an agargle with a garg So, all of the Tlawelpucci, the brujas Mexican,

that are the ones that are like in naves, in pacharos, and I think could also, or even, are in Tawel Pucci, are some bruchies,

are what they're doing, but is that, I go, well, no, no, because we're, we're going to try the factor

principal. Ascueran that are machos. Ah, well, so. So, no,

no, so I'm women, no are Tawel Puchis. Yes, but at the final of the day they can relationar

you know maybe they have been some kind of they're in the same type of

energy to be able his transformations it's a thing very fascinating the fact is

there is there there is there's there's there's the first that's

the gorgulas the gorgulas of Notre Dame how they used as a method

hydraulic for the water but it's interesting how

the magic also get to barcares those points and what

all in this in vivo was still in the time and all this type of situations. The fact that's a time

gargolas. How do you do that passed this brother? Bastante well. I'm

it was a good to be a good to be here to be a very interesting and very ample that

we can pass much time discovering and investigating and form us going to

to find out, to cast. It's a interesting. Before, please, you can't record our

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You're going to Richard, yeah, Richard, yeah, I was getting to get us to go, no, wait,

we're going to let's an ultimate indication. Recurgeon, not invocation gargolas if not are sure of what they're doing

for favor, chikos, toments your measures of security, okay? 100%. After the next.

Bye. Cuydence. Very strange. Oh, oh, oh, oh, very one of the

bankers of there atras. Possibly today we're to talk to investigate one of the assyendas

most malditas of the state of Guajaca. Someone that I bring

a camera here You see how they're coming. You're seeing how they're coming up. She's seeing the atmosphere very pesada. The first person who started to construct this place and who have this problem

with her daughter that was being posseated. His parents construed a capilla in this ascent where it was the ritual of the exorcism more sinister

that never had been in the capital of Waxaca. I don't know.