EXTRA ANORMAL - Historias de NARCOS Satanicos, Religión y pactos Ft Fepo Aponte

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

En este impactante episodio de "Extra Anormal Podcast", nos adentramos en un oscuro y perturbador mundo de historias de n4rč0s satánicos, religiones ocultas y pactos sombríos. Contamos con la presencia de Fepo Aponte de  @podcastparanormal  quien nos acompaña para compartir relatos escalofriantes y revelaciones sorprendentes sobre estos temas.Desde rituales macabros hasta pactos secretos, exploramos cómo estas prácticas han influido en la vida y el destino de aquellos involucrados. Prepárate para una conversación que te pondrá los pelos de punta y te hará cuestionar las fronteras entre lo real y lo sobrenatural. No te pierdas este episodio lleno de misterio y terror. Dale like, comparte y suscríbete para más historias inquietantes y paranormales.  CANALES DE FEPO https://www.youtube.com/ @podcastparanormal  https://www.youtube.com/ @podcast.criminalmente  https://www.youtube.com/@insomnio.paranormal 

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And discovered in where is God? When when they're, the anger was, well, in the house. The sunkenre was all right. But there's something that's always me called the attention.

There were hands of his kids in the page, but they were at an altitude.

Impossible for that they were that would have needed a escalera to get there and

to get a man like if they'd have been levited. There a series

there were a series. There were some carulet negras go to a person with the

rosa tapado and then he said he says he said he'll say he'll

the peach the peach his carra his heart no he said at

at that I've been he had matto until all just with a arm

of fire what what you what you can't do to

today today you was to experiment what is the

veradero power. I think you have presential like I, that in a person

use an animal. A cabra. A cabra. A mancho cabrio a negro and it open.

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they're they're in mordid, the heart and the little

the leaders more the head of the manch over the head of the man who

pointing to the right, always being looking to the sun.

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I have three canals, the principal, podcast paranormal, where we interviewed, we're talking about the

things of the phenomenon non-humano, and us as a podcast paranormal, and the other two, that is insomnia,

where, we have a chapter there with a couple, and we're going to be a second well,

well, there, narramos the experiences more terrorifices of the audience like a way of a podcast of relato and this, and criminally, where,

well, he's about of these crimes, cruentos, very famous as a rarer of the story, and others that are not so known.

The idea is like, understand, what was in the mind of a criminal and what he got to do to do things

so, and that's, to us, we're, four, seven. It's, it's, it's a genialism,

brother Oh yeah fiat that I'm talking about I'm talking about

talking about this we can we can't give you know about you know that you

talk about the attention and I am sure that many people in some moment

have said you said something what in the person that

commit an act inhuman no not to other person is known

even even talking to people family. For example, we've studied a much a case that,

I mean, I've got the opportunity to go to there, but no, I don't put to enter really, for a barred of six meters, and because the people, when they're they're going to call the policeia, the house of

Claudia Mijangos. There's, there many speculations, but in your experience, brother, what, what is the factor, the common denominator, that

there in the head of people that are in the type of, well, of, the act inhumans,

I don't see. Well, fiat that are two things very interesting. The first

is that you have to recognize that in some cases, in some cases, the criminal

actua because it is a specific, of the locura, of an accident,

for example, no? So, no is that has planned to commit a act

criminal in contra a person, not in specific, that are those stories

where we'd say, maybe I would have done the same. Okay. No?

So, like, you know, so, like, the mind of the criminal.

A woman that they can't to their unica and does to do

un-pensable for recuperate. And, clow. And, you know, you know, you

do you. So, so, we're, we've got, committed a act criminal,

committed, a act of desperation, to the to be to be a human, act,

and the other, that is that me is the interesting, that is the of the people that have some problem of the indole

psychological. Sociopaths, psychopaths, and more. People with schizophrenia, that no are dangerous, not those are, but if there are a countable number of cases, a difference of the sociopaths, which are various the cases.

But the people, in general, they have made to these persons that have these And so, are in a group, no, of the therapies mental that can get a person

to commit an act criminal. In those cases, what me is that I study the case.

Trotas to not revictimized to the victims. Sure. And, and also to allabar what they

did. That's much them. Those come in the heroes of the movie, and that's very

bad. The issue is, you're, you're, why? problems. And you can get to understand certain things

that lived in his infancy abusos and more, no? You can't get to understand. So, but your

mind not can't not work like engranar for that you have result, like with the

other group of people that you'd say, maybe I also, in this case, no there

no, there's a moment in the you can you empathize with those

minds. Because minds that are in the people are very they're in

they're in the reality of other form. And that that's to me it's

to a certain point as a good for the people for the people who you can't

you know, you're not you're a reality you can't understand you

do you you know you can't always there always there something there

you're surprised. No, no, you know, you don't do you know what is the

second path? In some moment, I mean, I get very clear that there

many that are in the mind of these people, but there, I think

there are that there's cases very diminutous, you you know, you know,

where there, there are certain things that don't quadran, for example, something

that I talked about Oscar, that he made a salute, that case of

Claudio Mijango and us we'll talk about it for him and for people think that

there's a possession demoniac one about in the courtes that did in the

carne of his little children saying that she occupa the

right and there's a man left and so are things that you open

in this brecha to think that not she not she was she

was doing this even in certain interviews that

have been able to filter of people that study in this case is that he has

said that he's not he's that he's that part where you what does what does

what can really really really do this there there there's

the the well well it's it's well there

there there there there there there some there

there there are the part, you know, the elements of the justice,

simply they're on the example. This is that you comment's, it's

certain that she uses the other man to commit the crimes in contra of his

kids, there's there. There are many cases in that in the moment

of psychosis, not is that exists a possession, but there's a second personality

that was there, that could be the same person, but it's the

second personality of the repression that And possibly that other personality

was surta when the person generally is right. But there's a detail there for what that's

also this. When they're when they're I was all the in the house, the

the corpse and they had those had been in the camera but there is something

I'm there's there were hands of those of his his

kids, in the page, but they were at an altitude impossible. Impossible for that they were a man, not in the techo, but in the

part of the part of the stairs, that would have needed to an escalator to get there and put a man like if they

had been levited. So that element, sumed to the other elements, it seems that there's something

of indolable paranormal. There is another case that is very famous. There is a surer the but

are the satanical this history well it was a Cuban that's a man who

that's that's literally in this culture joruba where they're

and they're and things and comes and it comes from another reason

it's and he and try to gain the life as a model but he does

know more he doesn't the other people for me of the the magic.

So is what, that's, so it's, that part of the story. And then all the

way, it's a lot of what's going to be a lot of the time, but he created the engangas

for him, or for people of much power that paid a quantity of an impressionate, he had

had done a thing, if they had a time, they were in a tomb, to get to geter,

the femur, the cranio and the menike, and with that they're the enganga, that are metals,

tierras, waters, water, pallas, etc. to give the power to

a person to work, and it functioned if the element of, let me

a man in the enganga was fresh. Okay. So, the person and they

quit the life and then they put them on the column vertebral for that

then when the body was allembers and it had the cano the

colonia a vertebral, the pelvis, and yeah only extract the femur and the meenique. And then with that, imagineate to have the medulla

spinal, between parentheses, between commies, fresh. With the brain, with the cerebr, or so, you know, they're these elements powerosos,

and so they were these incredible in ganges. It was horrible what they were. Horrible, spantos. Jolle,

but when when you ask the investigation, And he was with Anna Sallas, which is with her with the thing,

I'm going to, I'm very very close to the phenomena of the type paranormal. I have a question.

Because, I'm going in the history, it's they they're in and they're and they

all the light, a part of the moment in that he no does a enganga

to protect to see to be before. But before, we're going to occurringing locures and

never were detenied. Never there was a pista that that's that's

that they were that they were not. No, we're not we're I'm that they're

doing, I'm doing. You know, there's this factor paranormal that's

that it that's to happen to people in the history that they decide

not do say. No, no attack this time. Retireate because if you attack, you you're, I'm a grand leader military. I'm going to attack. Per die.

Bestier, brother. In the history always there's a factor paranormal, important. It's interesting that, no? Fidate that, to the life, no, I know, I can't tell or no, there's a story. I'm going to say. I think it's the moment

special, is a chapter of special. It has It's about A year or two Meses that I have I've read

many times this story is a Correo is of a person that today

still still but she has been going yhole this

this I one again never say never I said never I'm

I'm I'm I'm going to try to tell it to

let's I because it's referent to the thing

of the non satanical Okay. There's a person. That person, at the age of 13 years, he was going to omitire many points very clear

to avoid many points. In one part here of Mexico, his papa was political. He, in one occasion he was out of the school, 13 years, secondary,

he was up in a carmina type of black, polarized and they're from their and they're in, this chabbo starts to

And I described a series of sensations very sad that is living in this time that

was out of his liberty to his liberty, I heard the times that they said to the

where they paid quantities exorbitants of money and get to a accord

and they paid much millions of pesos and get to the accord

this he has the money but not they they they're

they they're to give the time and they're negotiating

other quantity X of money and the first and this occasion

he sentia because I was that these people of a famous of Mexico

that I can't mention but I know that I know what is right

that you say some some because they were many they were there

there were people not so that said yeah we know we

don't do But there were a group of people that said, no, we're going to to get to the last that's the last that they've got to do the same.

This father he'll give more money and again, and they're not they're trying to a third occasion and

this, and it's again, and they're again, they're saying that the papa yeah, yeah, they're working

by the agents of police, investigation, X, and they're saying, is that there's that

they're more money but we don't give more. I think if we send us

the hand or a hand or a little bit I think we can we can't pression

more. And he he, while he makes he I'm doing, I'm

doing while I'm making because I'm because I think

that I'm that I even I'm imagine to be to

when I'm like when he I'm a man we're we're we're

we're we're we that we that we're that we Unfortunately, this Papa

will be to do properties. He's not more money. He does properties, do cars, do everything. And when

you have nothing more to do, no they give them to give them. They're to get a

part of the north of the country, where he starts. He says that they're

people who have the visit, he, he, he, he doesn't say,

but me said that was a Brucho, that I've been mixed with Spanish, and he had

ceremonies for these people. In the age of 13 years, from the 13 to the 18 was being

adiastraud, standing as a alcon, passing to a cario. For the nights, I'd

never, never could talk to talk to his family. The fact, he had

strictly prohibited to have a telephone cellular, she communicated by radio, do

they were in a rancho. in the north of the country. It's a infirno because

suffered a violence, he was used, they were to do you, and he's the law of the most

hard. If you're dead, you're gonna you're in any and nobody knows of

you. He's made the and he he's able to survive and he starts

but it because yeah no he had to another. Yeah no

he He will be someone very good with his arm and he starts to

gain the respect of one of the leaders that he's to get with me we're going to

go to you're going to come you come and you come to and that

he's changed the fear for a sensation of power yeah something

that person and is that when you when you something when you something something

in you. Yeah, no fear. Yeah, there was this hunger to be the better,

and that's I'm going to be able to get to get a one of the people. I'm going to

this person to get to this rancho and he they were invited to one of his

ceremonies, where they said, today, today, today you're going to be

to get to get to this person were at the night, 10 of the night, between 8 and 10

of the night. There a series of them. Lillian some carmionettes negras

bachen to a person with the rosa tapado. It's they're they're

going to get this leader and he says take the cuchillo he'll the

pecho he'll the car to his heart to continue he

said to be, in that point I had a minute I've got to until that's

with a arm of a fire. What? What do you do? Cometel today.

Today you you're going to what is the real power. He said

in that moment I had my leader and a 40 six years there.

If I did it was a better for me. Sure. There was this chaman

or this bruce because really never me supposed to say that was auspicying a ceremony

and it's the moment more because to feel how you the body of the body of

someone while at the time grita is the pain he's the

cold but in that moment he knew that he was that he was

he his body he's his car his the cold

of your body of your blood, see how his heart palpitable

and it's the moment to mordered him. He starts to mordered

and a sensation to vomit horrible and they are repartient between

all in a pedas he he said a very rare this

is very rare because it is so that is like the kind of

a kind of a kind of an kind of Sinted how something something

recorried from from his head to his feet while that this person

that is the chaman was talking in other language and he he's his leader

he he goes now now you are complete and

start the missions and something and something something

that when they were when they were at the ballas

not they said I could to see how I was like five or six

times a point to die. And those balls never never to get to me. Not even.

It was like before that if I was I was different. The ballas not to

my body. For something they'd or something that was that I

didn't get to me. Passen some years to have 17 and 18 18 years to

have 25 years working of this form to be how this people

matto and did things atroces atroces and there's a moment where there's a mission in your people natal.

There the heart, you know, this necessity to see to see a family, but with the risk of that if you

you was, I said, I know, I was able what they were they're able to do, and not to you,

to your family. Sure. If you you go's with them. Sure. But the

love won't. Those abandon, in the opportunity, you know, I've got I had the confidence, and it's the worst when you're trying to

these people, is the worst, when you're done a little of confidence, and you those traditions, is the more. Aproveche the

opportunity to go to them, and it's very very sad, because only it was 24 hours for that they

were to their family. Rapidism, they did know, from that day to the day to day

of the day of today, no see if this person still alive. The last that I super was your Correau. It's that

he was going on the place in place, the people in people, because he

he's that this organization that this organization yeah not so that's so much,

there are people who are people. If you don't they don't get cabs swelts.

No, they to be, I remember having heard heard I've heard

many stories of people that do things very strange,

very But, no, I don't know, I don't know what I'd say in this type of cases. Look, there's a, there's a question that is very interesting, horrible, but very interesting, at respect of these, I don't I'd say a pactus, because

not they're pacting, more than more than, they're, like, they're an way not positive to integrate a little of the people with that other reality. we're remounted to many things

of the antiqued and the present in the antiquity in the antiquity they used these encounters with that other reality where

it wasian they were in a other reality to be able to know and predict how it was to be the climate

for those cosechas if they'd to belear with the people of the people

With all the oraculed, with the oraculos, they used plantas of power, but previously, the use of plants of power, they were the navigation to the point. First, they had to recorre the way,

know where was the point of the entry, and then they used the atah. But with the time, these societies, with this knowledge,

they were perviting because there there's this lot of the human, so there. So, there were people that were

to be able to get to a power illimitado, for the human to other way. There are

entities that are there are super dangerous super-powerosas and that they like certain practices

and things the moment in the moment in that you have a person that is

that is and that enter that cut to to your to the pain

the the adrenaline the the emotions yeah has acudied with a lot of emotions

terrible. It's a person that has been private of his liberty, that's been going to say, you're going to get the life, you're going to get a life, you're going to get a life, you're going to stress brutal, and of a sudden, how how's starting

their sternon, that that's going to lose the life in that moment, is a is a cumul of energy importantissimo, that also, that, also, go directly to something to a person

with the victim. The heart. The heart. Then then they're then they're

and then they're and then that's a practice is, it's like a pacto like an entity.

For that's that's that there's a man. Yeah. That's the that's what's doing

and you that's practicing and you don't know what you have to know is that you're to talk

power. But you know, but you know a, a change of that you,

me you know, then when occur in this type of pactos that the

people don't comprehend what they're they're because there in levels

in levels on you know there's more high and there in levels more

bados I think you have present you like you that

in the person they use an animal a cabra a cabra a cabra a man

a manch cabrio a and they they're they're they they're

being being looking back the heart and the head

it's they're to make to the corns they're to come to make

a mordid as the person and they call on the leaders more the head

of the macho over the with the little always seeing

looking to see seeing this this is a horrible

but because they're they're but we know exactly to

the entity with they they're they they're so they

when it's the man when it's not is forcibly the same entity

and the worst, when, that also we know, they're to use a

children, the more smaller, more powerful, is that pact. These people,

I mean, it's because they're in three groups. It's the part more

more more when one investigue this. The first, the

that is with animals, are people of of power, of power magical, right?

That's that they're to get to religions, cults, etc. and they're to form

part of this and they pass for a series of, say, and then they're

to get to this moment in the in the they can receive the

power of this entity that you those you can't mentioner that are terrible

because there no we don't to a one of us or

not not not to be to be to be to talk to be the victim.

Yes. You're going to arrancar that power to make a and it's horrible because no there's much

knowledge, a exception of the brucho and the sure of the leaders. Yes, and the

and the the worst, that no do they're this type of criminales, it's dovernants

and the people that control the world. Sure. Those that don't know who

are, those who are occultos, those Homes and that they're all and

they're not, not only they're all and they're and they're the mingachas but that also

we're we can't to our kids and for a for a unomrabable. It's that

here comes the thing of the elites and I've seen even I used

I'm a podcast you of the first first, apart of Molo, that Molo, I remember much

to the Vatican. When I did that video, oh, my know, it was a community Catholic

on the community. Catholic, on the same, well, there are you have done. Sacredotes, young,

me tirade horrible, this, I, yeah, I already, I learned, but no,

no, no, no, I've learned, and, and while, if there are things, I'm going to

keep to say, I'm I don't know me No, me It's really Because are things

very rare Because are things very rare Is that I'm talking We're talking We're talking We're talking

But I'm We're Desvian Well, it's Because the Vatican is a cumul of

Mysterios Yeah I'm Mousan in his moment when I about the Gigante

Atacama that because he he's one of the Papas I think is the Papa

Francisco Francisco who has He has the that's the Tridactyro, but no, no, no, the the gigante of the lineas of Nasca.

Exactly. How's it? How do you know, it's my name? So, but, but it's that you have a number, this that you have got, I don't remember how it's called. It's like a buffandita

for that, burdly for that you, it's like, there's there's many things, and is that's a little too, this is a thing very interesting, salio

information, about that the Vatican about the certain things in the thing paranormal you did you did a in-vib

about that those norms there are things very rare and this I've said in other episodes and

I've said even in the podcast bromeying and sergal and sustos but the people

you know I said there's got to they're saying these bates and they're saying that's real those are

so that's so that's so that's so there's been to pass but that we've seen

in movies and series and a lot of things that in the moment who was making a reference

that was a real reality you're a because you are a manso how you you're going to think in this

that's in the television is in a movie oh yes this what I said

this that I was I said you one when when we about about the

thing of the Vatican we did we did we did we talking about

things too about things about or well a little credible where in the chronovissory

a chino of things because that's one is very is to be about what it's about from the most

tonto to the most obscure that could be a reality in this moment

I'm I'm talking and I'm always that I'm always that I'm

that I'm remember because it's very rare is a notisier is a

page a page of notis notis a has a has a

got a around the about the six visits for day

that they're in the news most impactant of the

what they're in Rome, that they have to be with

all the and they're they're not not that they're

not too about the 2015 and 2018, where they were a

exorcism was a practice that the church that

you and I did in this moment I was I'm

talking I'm talking I'm how how I know

how you know they're they're there this part that

I'm confunded a chingo. I mean, there are there's there's that I've

know that not I've had been the opportunity to interview because not they're in the

exorcism. In the possessions demoniacas or possessions of the spiritus malignignous

and because it's about that the church officially not they don't

they're and that even they even they don't they're like practices

very primitivas that not according to the new actuality or the new reality

to say something paraphrasian a little I'm this is a

very rare because I'm the example of the movie of the exorcista

the pap when a Gabriel Amor they want to get his

functions to the exorcist in turn because the because the

church because the that of the new politics and that occurred

in the movie because it's supposed that a demon person

was a person person and that was he was that was

changing normas standing to certain communities, I mean, doing all the contrary,

destruyending it from the movie, man. Why the church today want, because it's

in this, in this line where they're doing things that a much people are like thinking

what's what's going. Well, is that I put in an crosshijada because I'm not

about the Vatican. But it's impossible. Also, there is it's impossible. one is the practice

religious, ecclesiastic the creencia of the God, the creencia in the God, in the Virgin Maria, et cetera. That is one thing. We're going to

let me apart that there's good Catholics. No, no, no. Any good sacerdotes. Sure. For the other people. So, that's all right. That's right.

There's a part. And this part is the part of the political. With its new norms, what they want is well, yes,

if there exist the phenomena strange. But are those those that I say, ah, oh yeah,

you know, you know, you know, you know, the custom the, the, this,

you know, is rare, no? But not rare, because the church and all the

churches, so, for, to be honest, all the churches, all the final are

an business. we're, we're we're talking here, we're economic and

the company, not of the creencia. They're not they're not a debate

of the God, if the God, if the good Catholic, if the good Christian,

no, no, no, no. That's this part. Here is business. Sure. So,

a new. Yeah, I'm not that you interrupa, but even the people he molest this,

hermano, every every time you go to the church, does a certain kind of money,

that this is repartied for the parroquia, for the obispo, or, so,

go to a not only only is it's to leave a plegare. It's really you're going to you're going to

you do you. So, that's many people and it's people who are someone who's

people who are people who administering and not only only administering the flow of the effective

that no pay impuests, but they're they're how the ideas,

the creencers the culture can be modified to be made to make sure so. So,

then they they're and the practice of the exorcists those lastime

economically. Because the people start to go more to other type of things

and to other type of creencers that an exorcism the possessions more well,

and the liberations are practices more habitual. But there no there is

a dismo no it's not. If they're if the possessions

demoniacas exist and we have exorcists official so the people

the people took with a permiss for the Santitima for

the santaia for a lot of creensions Afro-Cubanas but that's not they're to come in them to

you want to you're going to you there's there is spiritism where there exorcisms no no no

here and every every time that they do this the people uh other type

of creencers then modifican and they they say no no exist in the positions

demoniacas we don't we don't have exorcists get at here. Hiddle is to get

here. Well, it's monopolis to final to countes. It's because it's even

that they going to create a department additional that that's the control or that

will get to get the control of this evidence that's that's about the

experiences paranormal, phantasas apparitions, milagos marianos a lot of things

but at final you know you think you or you think you think what you

will be there will be there will be impact or is merely because it's like it's

the got to another way. It's going to the way that's because when one starts for example

to investigate this type of phenomena even from the most exepticism you start with stories

that at a little you can't you can't replic in a laboratory but the summa

of all the stories and the person the honesty in those words in those eyes the experiences

vividas some those are not also, also also, there are things very good in the phenomena. Yes. You know,

you're just under the phenomena reales. And you can't do some way to study those like the parapsychology. Yes.

You can't do another way to document them, which is very, very important, and little to understand those. Conforme

you're going to you're just more asthmbrosa of what we have been said, but distinct to what us have been

different to what they've been different to, we've been the part religious in the phenomenon. It's

totally when you understand for example that what we're we're not we're we're in

reality are paracites spirituales arecontes are sorts of astral possibly are they're

people who in some moments that they're done that the only way to be

able to this life is try to to control a body so

in what you crees. To the church not the community not it's it's

it's not there. It's to get the reality that's different of what

we've talked. So when they're going to it's when they're to change

the the reality of the norms of these situations. It's me makes

a so because in the Bible yeah the Bible Catholic

Christian is they're they're not normativeness that both

Testament and the new testament, and there there are citas and there

these texts, where they they're to be that they're talking about just about

directly to the number that he has the same the same God and always

but me does a risa like the administration of this creencia

if they're to adapt to the new tendencies because if

not it's there is that here I can't talk about because

I'm going to get a lot of things on but I'm going to be in those changes to do the

people who are not like no, pinches vats that's that's no, because I'm

going to get in that's I'm going but I'm but you know it's an it's an

company and it's part of character human nobody nobody doesn't

want to but it's that's that you're not you're not you can't you can't and for

The churches monetizes very well. What they do those resources, at the more is a little to expand the religion or at a moment

in some some cases is something because the human can do things good or bad with this money.

But that's nothing to have nothing to do it. It's simply the character human. What is?

The other I can say, it's many, many, many, many years, how are to exist

the dinosaurs? Yes. No, in the creation of God not exist. But we find us

fosos for all the planet, no? Well, borroney, Quenta new. And there are the images. You can Googleer, so you can literally put Jesus and dinosaurs, and they're in a lot of images. Where is Jesus

playing with dinosaurs? No, manches. For sure. So, sure. So, so, it's true. So, it's changed. There was this idea absurdly, of that the man, more than the woman, because God is a man. And

they've been going to and that's been the modification more dolorosa that's the church

the more because today they're in a problem with the sexuality yeah

in a problem very and you and then and then with this character

of this character of the science well not because the science no because the

science says look here we here we have two leones machos

copuland and look here we we have these plants of this way, here we

we have this and the other of what we we're going to investigate so it's like it's that

is that's that is the human and the entities and the three points. Physically

you can't you can't have this character sexual mentally you can't you can't

another character sexual and if that I agree the spiritual that has any

any one of the two, well, it's normal that occur in certain things. Yes. How will explain to the

church? No, you know, you know, they're going to do you? Well, it's that they're going to

do, it's going to be a scandal. Ah, will be a scandal? Tremendor. But it's

you're going to know, because it's part of the business. Yes, because you can't, not, because you

can't, you can't, because you can't, you can't, not you know, but you

and we know, and we've seen, and we've in many religions, even in the part of the magic.

Fugate, how it's very rare, until the day of today, we've seen these spheres that are in the eras,

who are? Bruchas. Bruchas. They're doing a bado terrible to a little, they're in the movie of Witch.

Uh-huh. And it's, and the baby. Yeah, so, who did? A woman? A woman, a brouca.

A brouca. A brouca? power, a Bruch. We think in Merlin. We think in the

good of the history. Sure. CIRT. No. That in the stories real, not

in the ficticias, who you do? A woman. A woman. That is a bruja.

A bruja. That has a power. That is botanica. That's to learn the cards

to say, you have this problem and I'm going to help when you when you think you

a person, you You think you're in a bruce, in a man. In a man. Because who who can tell the history

is the that can't the things to his favor. And we've been seened that the bruchas and the bruchos

are powerful. Not good. Poweros. And in the reality, it's all reverse. It's all

reverse, but it's cost to work. So, so it's got to through the time,

to do these modifications and they're doing now, for example, with the normas

that are exist since 1997 they're changing modificing, they're doing this update.

And they're going going to go to go to go to go to go to me and not, I'm going to I'm not, I'm not

I'm part of the Vatican, like you just only I'm saying, oh, okay, this is what they're doing.

Not so they're not saying that God no exist, or that God will be to be

to say that the things now are so never never passed so. More of they're just

they're they're I've said, and I think in his moment to do you know, all the organization led to people eventually will be to be corruptible.

Why? Because it's the naturalness of the person human, no? To have that the libredriot of what

to do and what not do? So, and all parts we're going to find people as people

malas. And so there's a problem in a principle is no me apart. There are people who

can be very good Catholics, very good Christians, very good sacerdotes, the people that

if they're in a view spiritual that's a good that are very grateful that I'm

like that's an example but but this this ball of people that really I think

are people that are people who are more in this world in this country but unfortunately

they're they're they're they're they're they're they're not working

because pardon that you don't go but I'm but I think it's very important

when when it's about politics, religion, and football, uff. It's, it's a modific

much of what he's saying. And, oh, because to me, from my

point of if you're saying, is that you don't care in God, no, if I'm,

I think, in God. It's, not for me an insult, that someone dehe to believe or

create, me, it's a result to defend a partio political. Because if we're doing

these things, as well, you know, you say, you're many people people who are very good

I think that the majority and there there are sacerdotes, monjas and et cetera that are

very good. I think that's the majority. And if I do a comparison with the

system political, well, I don't see politicians. No. No.

There's there there's a difference. For so I think to

talk to talk to political of football, no should

be a we can't give us this things. If we don't we

don't give to get the things. And what I think of the

church, I'm I'm not because someone has to have to do you

need to administer. I mean to say, that's a business or that's a business, it's

a no, no, it has to have to subsist a religion, it has been to be someone

to be someone that has to be someone that can't have been to be the textos,

because all the people all the human control that information to make a regular

basic, it's super difficult. Yeah, there's a process no, there's a work of much time.

How many? How many? How many? How many? How many? How many? Yeah, they're just

our brothers of the cosmos, that probably can't give an question to the Bible, et cetera,

et cetera. So, yeah, they're a lot of things, but they're a lotita,

gotita, gotita, gotita, because to via this information, include it in, in the,

in the, in the texts official, no, but anyone has to do you have to do it. But I mean has to do it

a problem important. I think it was the thing important, I think it was the to have done and we've done the platica. Pardon,

but the theme no human, Pepo. Puf. I go and you know, and I do do abertamity,

to talk to extraterrestres is impossible to say, Fepo. Why, brother? Why this

this acercement this phenomenon? I personally me like, I know much of this

thing, as a fanatic if I've readed many things that are even very related to the

paranormal, that are that they're but that's but at the same time it seems that no,

that's other and is when you know it's one or is one or it's one,

but you you know that even that's even to be the same as

two, but what's what's what's about you? How is this idea

to your head to your idea to continue this phenomenon? I think that the

thing of the phenomenon no human, exaterrestres of nis and all this

is maybe something more more not not easy

to understand but you you that in the case of the phenomena paranormal.

You know, this of what we're talking of what we're talking of the people to the people who are to do you know,

blah, blah, blah. Yeah, is that you know, is that's what you in some in a

place of the Republic Mexican, literally is going, it's occurring in some in a country

in some country African, or so, that's going to do you know, and we've been

much time and it and it's fear because are things very obscure

and tenebrose. And in the side of the phenomenon no human, me

it's more much more intrigante for the part of that you are doing

that you know, one, that has a major technology, a spirituality

and to understand it's difficult, but we we're that at final,

if you you're victim of a case, for so that the

phenomenon no human is improable. One, that you

And it's still more improbable. In case of that you are part of the group of the people

of the person or contacted, it's almost impossible that I'm going to occur a little to get a

difference of the other. It's that here, I've noted much is here, there's,

there's, there's, there's a way, a way, to the investigation, there more

thing of the question because here there, there's there, the thing paranormal is,

I think there the people, that not should be a phantasas

and spirits. But there many ramas of that a phantasm of something that's

a little to get a little bit of a lot of there's, so there many things because I

could have passed. But the people it englova phantasas spirits, no,

demons. Of this side, there's a series immense of phenomena so they

are many types of things, there are some in general, that you to you

get me the attention. Yes. And, and just like to make it clear,

is that the universe is very great. And, and we've discovered that not only we're

the enormous, enormous, enormous universe, and in the system solar,

to start. So, not we're those only in the system solar. I refer to

a people, people, I'm that they're in technology. They're all those

others who can't even possessing a core physical, that maybe not are

of this universe, of this time is a, it's a a lot of those that are but a

me the most they're the attention are those who have been a very history

that is very interesting because it's very human to a certain point, the those

those know, I'm about of the chiquites because are the grises

altos. But these chitos that have been very castigated in their history.

Those that are those who are those who are contacted, for example,

here I'm to nombrough a sixthopass and also for example, well, sixthopass, no?

When the first time that's about one of those grises, he's he's a real.

So, it's a thing rather. If you a little a car in the car,

a costado, with a one one one, you know, you're living, or if

is a more, or if is a thing, the life doesn't, the life,

the and see the muskito, and of the immediate, you know, that's, that is there that's alive. And you can't feel that the pader is to, maybe a bit, but, like, in a grader much minor. Like, you recognize your form of life. When

you're close to these, there's there's a lot that you put nervous. Those best moverses. Those best observart, those best, executor, but no you see that they're in vivo. Like if you see a machine that's moving and is Construing an automobile

A Gascarone. You see that that machine that's moving to build and construct the automobile, although the makes to move, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, but no you know, you know, and these

are the grises not so don't seem and some that's the part more interesting. Figate,

no is that they're not they're not they're not in their A one raza

that was in many points of the universe, because they have expanded in what

is it is the community, they're this, this part of the universe is of our

domain. In our dominion conviven millions, millions and millions and the species

intelligent different to us but it's our domain. They're those

are the time. With the they did understand that they could modific

their genetic in favor of certain things. For example, the human,

we're talking right of the human, we're not we're designed for the

voyage in the space. For that you can be a man need to

go to go to three times a day. It needs to eat,

we need to get much much water, sudar, changing of the cells,

all the all the days, in all moment. So, just just the

people have been when they're when they're to the year my

man I'm I don't I remember the name of this the other other than the other

time so no manches I mean in quite his body in the life there there's

this problem of the adaptation other of this cause problems very

very there's all no having gravity uh at not

having gravity those those those those terribly, the flow sanguine, the

blood that gets to the brain, to get to the heart is in a stress tremendous, when you're to be able and that the

bloods and that is a thing terrible. The person human is designed to travel in the space. No.

And they are you did you know they're designed naturally to travel in the space. So,

in the other to construct technology Brutalely impressionate to be able like if

you've got a webito that with whatever something is but you're to navigate

to more to say only for say something in an automobile a more a more

to 350 kilometers per oda where you are in curbs curves and you

and you you're you're not you're not you you're going to build a automobile

especially designed for that the webito no so imagine that the

we've got to eat to eat to get to get to know, I mean,

it's a much technology for that the way of the way that's

what they're that's the next to the next we're we're to make it

genetically for that that that's that be adaptable to the necessities

of the environment of the universe is a person that no need

for example of food solid that that no need

of desechos, that no need of the flow sanguine, that no necessite of the muscles, and a lot of things, and they're designing

a type of a set, which is like they're, but it did it, but they're going to that they were a function.

Then they were they were in the function of each one of these beings, different functions physical.

Yeah. So, there are the cases where they're, and we have the people of

because if those we have, that they have six dead. We have others that only have

four and don't have pulgar, but the point of the toes have these like things that can

succionar. We have other cases where literally they're not they have been not

not really. We're some things are little some things there's little and other there's not

a orificio but they're like the timpanos included in this part of the part of

parpados, with curds burs, with curds buchels, with on the corpses more altos, more

short, more fertes, etc. So, and they designed like explorators

spatiales with the necessities yeah, of investigation and that the body functioner for

each one of these functions. So we're we're doing a rasa that's that's so

that's that's that's that's that's that's that I'm that I'm

that I'm that I'm this of a form different because

we're then we're they're practically of being people people so they're

like like I'm can't say the word humanized because not some humanized but I don't

how explain it's not I don't know I think of thinking it's thinking is that is that

is that is that is is that is that is there is a process of but not

they're the Spirit, exactly. They're vacuous. That's the part the story.

One of these these races, that are in various points of the universe and were evolutioning

and evolutioning and so to the technology. Evolutionar so much to the technology that they

that they did you, for example, between you not exist the love. Although are diploids,

you know need they don't need the act sexual. Because all of a

laboratory. Yeah, no needs to enamorarse one of the others. Yeah, no, they need to be attracted to those one's to others.

Yeah no it's. So, although they're in this character of love, of the children, the... Sentiments,

zero. Yeah, no exists. They were separating many, that, for that I said, when

me said, is that you don't care in God? Moment. They've discovered a and you

will be a sound very loco. A- be. They've discovered that God

exists. Okay. And they discovered in where is God. and God

that not is like what we we're not a source of light in a point where of the nothing

they can't do they can change the material but generate material of the not

they're not they're in these in these interviews that's that's that's

they're that they're even in things so different to them

that are not are understand these point where is God that God

that's that's what we know we know what they're in the God, and they can't

comprehend it. It's something that but they can't of something. God God.

God. They're not they can't reproduce. When they they're not a new

body, that's a new person, he's being, execute actions but

no posse spirit. The soplo how they don't? No,

exist. no have a motivation more than the function. No,

they're more there's the universe no they're they're they're

they're they're they're to disappear and then then they're in all

the universe in the part that they they're in the one of

those that has to say the sop divino but super alto

is the human is the human. They're they're they And they're studying the human.

They're present in things terrible that occur from, from the explosion of a volcano where they're fallinging millions of people in a moment,

a terremoto, a war, and things that are those are those are those are those are those are

still being, they're in some those lasos sanginios in the lastiment of a young or

a little. They're there are presentes and they are presentes these visitants nocturns in your dormitory in the

night when it's when they're to make that baby and what they're observing is why this mom and this father,

am they're so they're that they're what they're what is, what is what they're so they're

so they're to these people and they're and they're and they're other type of fluids they're

they're doing a study because how we we can we're regress to not evolutionar, but involucionar

to go to until that we're getting to a point where we're getting entities tremendously intelligent, but that we have

a soul, that we have a spirit how we can do it. And have discovered that one way

is with his technology genetic, create a new new a new entity. And there are the cases like

the Stan Romaneck that he knows why they're going to until a day he knows

a a girl. A little a little that he says

but it's totally human man. It's an hybrid

between a human and they and then discover that

not only it's a little there a lot and

they're they're to the parents and parents, to these

places that they think that is a dream for that they can have an interaction with the children.

Because they're that if these these kids, the different of those pures these

these these little these don't have a contact amoroso with his parents,

they're like the spirit is apag. Necess they need that they have this

interaction. There have now adolescent when he he's in a

in a talk in a penance and he sat sat under the public

he he makes a mother but it's a person but his rostro not

there's a part I like much unir and now I'm these these

these part of the life that he has interest, more the

more than the sentiments is the love. What is God? Um, who

who supposedly those castiga? A they're to them? Uh-huh.

God. It's that they're not no, no, no, no, no,

there you go. It's that is that um, disculp if me I'm a

little fanatic, no, no, but I, but I do, because they're,

if you if you're a because God, because God is love. And at inverse,

yeah, you know, you're going. Yeah, yeah, you're going. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, well, at the final of the count, it's like something, it's like, but really is so, because it's a, so, there's a part, even there's a meme, that, that's, that's, that's, it's real. they put in two images

put in a person not so intelligent for not even not too intelligent super-felis and put in a person super-intelligent with a life

very little bit so like you're more less list and more intelligent you're less you want to you live

less you enjoy the then so you say those beings these beings that are these beings

how are they're how they're not affect what they're actually of all the power

but is that there's a thing there's very interesting it's true the reality or God or God

but it's that it's but not that those castig but what more what you what they say

in these these is that in a principle existian other universes but no

existia this this this no this no and so and then

three three not one three that don't have sex and that are not they're like us,

three Ceres decided create a new universe. This new universe is created a part of the rules

of the material and the energy that generate these three Ceres. And then boom,

Big Bang. And it generates this universe where we are we the energy and

the material are the rules of the life. The life has to perpetuars in

this universe. That is the principle. So, then the life recognizes the life and the life try to perpetuate the life. What they're doing not is perpetua the life, right?

Is conquistar the life, which is totally different. So, no is that God those castig, but they're, as they're in counter

the regal principal, the regal the reason is what does God. Generos, and if you the romps, then you,

you know, you can't, you can't, And is that they're, like you said, this sopola or something. I've got a

little, I've seen a little I'm a little to say to this. I'm here. Here's, I'm going to rasp

a muehl's. A bit. But, let, see. But, again. A bit of, let's see. Let me.

Let's see. Uff. Yeah, you know. Yeah, I said. Yeah, I'm,

with Lourdes, Gomes, that I'm a ferno a great abraso and a yohle, tipos,

those two. Yes. I talked with her and she me about of books apocryphs

and of how it's, the conception of Jesus how really is, it's, it's a

when really not was a naturalization. And there's a part important. There are

many theories out out of very tontas and very burdas but

I think that there's there there's a little there is that

is a that the the the nacimient of Jesus by Maria to be

this what I'm to say abortamated with much respect is a theory

that's you can to be to look only I'm only I'm on the

paper and I say we're so it's so I do it I'm

I'm I'm I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm the observation

for that all what you want to do you have to be the word absolute

and nobody affirmate that we're talking about what we about. Yeah then we're

putting me barrea like you say my pole and I'm a marra the

now now so there there there there no

I don't know there there's a type of something something

something I don't have to say that I'm that they're

that they they're going to pass the years but they're like the two organs sexual

pass the years and it's like to florecer now the other sexual he could have been

born a womancita but at the past of the years he begins to start

the beyo the voice begins engrosar I think I think is hermaphroditas when it

has the two sex yes when they have Sexically. Physically. Sure. So they can

look. No, I'm saying I'm not I'm going to inventing. And they are they're

on the cases where even they're even they're doing generate life. No, I don't that's

not I think that's possible. But there a studio, I don't I had planned to talk to this,

but but I was a studio that there was a caron that there was a man that's

because yeah has succeeded this in certain animals that can to succeed. If there are animals, Hassel busomel in Google,

for favor. For example, there are the rannas that can clonar, because they can reproduce withsing themselves at a change of sex. But it's about something that QR one in 10 million where a human, where

a person, can't get to do. That's rarestim. You know, I'll tell you, I'm going to pass that what I mean. I'd would like to know your point of view of that. But But, talking

of Jesus, making a reference because they said that in this case,

Maria, it's a case of one in 10 million. I think that the

history of the birth of Jesus, of the conception, more well,

I think that they're to get to come to get to be to get

to get and I also, and I'm, I'm, I'm, he said, I think

that we're that we're that they're going to out of things things incredible and I think we're

we're prepared to know the conception I think that was in a woman human a very special

very special one of every one of one of one but not for a person human

okay no it was a paloma Oh, no, clear. That's that's a true

because in this moment we could we're able to explain to say. God himself

fecunda to Maria. I think it's a me, to me, to me, me,

it's a case of these that have occurred many times in humanity where a

woman is selected, she decided to present her body to be to becundar

to a very special. Because they they can find that that

all not to intervene because the rules they're they're

not you can do you can't directly with the human

okay this this woman and then then I'm to generate

in another person that even that doesn't have

an connection with a direct with the thing that

not all but this person so this we're

to be observing, there are the stars that they're seeing and et cetera, we're going to be observant your

his growth, your know, what is going to be learning and what this person will

be a change tremendous in the humanity. But not is 100 human.

There's a part of the Bible where the people want a

person wants to imagine how is an angel and the romanticize much

thinking that are men very wapos with his tragecito black, his salitas of plumbita

and very very be used but do you recalls what are the first are the first of the

angel the maria? No, what were? No, no, you know, we're not

a person that apparently in appearance no is nothing like, because all this

a bit, no no temas. I've got the message, but that I'm talking about in Serragans Rustos, because it's like to put a barrier, because if me present and do the message,

you're desmayas or you're going to, no-seh, is no, no, there's, wait, now, so, so, so, so, to me, we, we, we, we,

we, know, a world of possibilities to know, how it was, the ser or the angel that visit Maria in his moment. And, well, I'm going to tell

a thing, so, what you just that you can't to say, for this is that me it's the phenomenon

but very important for sure not demerited the history is very very important to Marui

Rivera a person not contacted abducted but that abducied but that abduction is a

contact in that moment for a reason this person brevissima of history he

he was in a bar uh and he had labors of limpeas in the bar and he

he's enter that he's going to a band that he likes much a woman so there.

So, these quats are to talk there and he said to your woman,

oh, he's a person very humilded and he said, I said,

I said, I don't we know for that you go and you can you can't out of the

bar and when you come, and when they say, I'm going to be going to be

to be a camera photographic take. Tom. Tom, take them a photo.

With a photo, I will be very so perfect then to work at the bar. And in the

night, well, he took the photographia of the band and he has been, he has

a cochecett. So when he's in the coach, is in this part where it's a lot of

the night, it's time, it's too, for the most of the neblins and be

the ovny, et et cetera, no he does be a light between the

nebina and then then he starts to be to be to be a

velocity until the point to the point to get to

to that's a entity to enter a neblin and he put a

side of your window, when it he, he's put like he's

spanta horrible. Okay. Pianca that are demons. It's the first that

he thinks. For the appearance. Sure. He, well, he, well,

not is too in all this of the story, of the phenomenon, simply see something

and say, in the mother, a demonio, no? Yeah. He put nervouso,

he obliging with the mind, no temas. Uff. Okay. Abre the door.

And there's another on the other other side. And then he doesn't remember nothing.

Yeah. No, it's to read but this person of the impact of these thinking that were demons

literally, literally, it's made the bano. Of all. Of all. Of all.

Yeah. Of the the susto, of the impact. The next that you is to be his feet. He's sat

but only can't be his feet. No, they're not there. And when he wants to

get the head, there is a little there's a kind of the and that's he's all and he

starts to no, so it's my body, I can do do it and soeltem and sueltem

and swelten and let's the visit. This is in an room circular, blank

that, where, where is where it's where it's where it's is like a board

that's a bit of a and there and there are for the most 40 people

all of people and women and there no there if there people women and

women and people all with the face about and and

and those people but so and all of these

people see a what he he consider that they're men

those those men that he feel that they they they're

they they're they because he immediately he's put like... Yes, yeah,

to the defensive. Yeah, my life is in a danger. Tranquino.

No, we're going to do you. No, we're doing. Don't I'm. Calmer.

You're going to respond. Get to another person that he's like to him, a man.

A little with a capita, etc. And he I'm going to start. That's

people are of the island of Puerto Rico. And, well, well, They're doing

some labors important and he he's much that he

he's not going to do you don't to have done it but well,

you know, you know, you know, you're going to happen nothing. So,

this is telepathic and he he said, and these is who are, who are,

they're they're they're they're they're not they don't they don't they

don't they're you know those stress. They're going to go to go to your

car, we're going to go to your coach. When he's like, he's like, yeah, he's in the

coach, he'll be the way, the car, the coach is like stationed. And he's

like, what he was a thing, it's a thing, it's a what on,

no? So, what, what's, what's, what's, and in this moment,

be the nav in that he's in the sky. Toma the camera photographic,

come to talk to And in that moment, appear in the Air of the United, and the navus is going. And the navines

are surcundal the area. Beste, brother. He explains that even he knows that's an exaterrestresterstres,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. With the the knowledge that he had demons and that the person that was present

he was a person who was how they were connecting, not? Some are repitending some patterns,

some phrases and is that in the moment we we're in the same

that's the same that's the same that basically we've been the Bible is that

if there is an an angel that's in the Bible the of the

of the lot of no the that is written to a detail

to well well that is the the Archangel Miguel

the the book where I don't don't I imagine that

I can you can And he is described like a human he's

described the Bible like a person of a person of a emerald

a emuoso a man a man a man very be but

apart there are the other references in books epiproph

where are in these rows with eyes rosters for example

in the Bible can can these are in this

court not with these Ancians where they These are these Ceres with Rostros of a human

a rostro of a man, a person that if the people see the people see, they're going

they're going and they're because are things are mackles very raras it's very fascinating

to be and know because abem persons or exist in person I'm

in some moment I'm that all all is both is beautiful and it's

a ecoyis very bad no of all what is the

Bible. But in the Bible, there's things very too there's

I've done, I've done in the book of the Bible where we've been about the

bigots of the nephilim that are these where we talk about what we

in the ark of the lot of the lot of matanzas that are that passed

in the Antio Testament, of how were those those people

who were people who were how moved how moved this for example

Pablo before before after to be converted to God.

He was a persegidor of Christians like, so are things very tremendous that I'm

that I'm talking about in podcasts and the people and say, I'm go to your

Bible, there's but it's that they're not used to see that not the thing,

no, of how Jesus an no, yeah, it's not you know,

this part of the story that is fundamental too to understand even

certain certain passages but but, but well whatever whatever

whatever You're going to find. Right. Right. You're going to, the Archangel Miguel, of this description that

had and all, there's a story that no, no, I'm pertainse. Okay. I don't

see if this person yeah to tell to you, but what is that is that never he has that never

in a podcast or in a program of television, never did. Of course, I'm going to have much

care. You and I have various friends in common. This friend in common no has been with us

in the last month. Okay? Okay. Yeah, you know, I'm doing a idea, no idea. You know,

is a bit sceptic in some things. Yeah. In others, no. Yeah, with that. I'm going to

and I'm kidding a chino on the same. One day, the theme of the phenomenon no human he has

much noise. Uh-huh. He has told two things. One in particular

that me is spectacular. And I want to tell you know, you know,

you know, there's a person pardon me, there's a person that's well,

there was a person that with all respect to the I'm saying, Sarah Cuevas.

This this extraterrestres. One of these contacts, the most important, was with a ser extraterrestre that or

either was an angel, or was a being was a or the two things. Okay. The person

of the I'm talking, she was called, according what she had read to the anizzo. You can gogulary

and will be some of the stories impressive. I know people. I'll get to that's

But in a moment, me said that he had a program of television. So in your program of television, this is not in a bad onda, but not is that

he was to be and when he was to invite to your program for that you talk to the al-an-is. And he very respectfully he said,

is that I don't let me invite to the program for that be able to that you can talk with a

ser that supposedly is ex-terreste but nobody more can't be and nobody more can't have contact with

him, so then I'm so no I said no we're gonna we're gonna we're we're gonna

hear the voice of this there. There are people who have been I've been to invite to

yeah I'm gonna get to yeah that I'm saying that me say that she

they're and well she I said, well, I'm going to continue insisting. And then a day

he was in his program, terminate the program, and there was she said, when you go when you

want to invite to to the program? And he he said, I think that first I'd

have to know to know to the Aniso. Very very. In that a child,

there was a family of this person, and he said, oh, yeah, how you said, and they

And he said, I have to go because you go to my family. We're going to go to go to get.

Gusts and he? And he's like like, go, no? And he's unen to this.

They're going to go to near where they're going to go back. Uh, so they're like,

they're like about eight people. They're there, and he he said, oh,

oh, oh, oh, blah, blah, and he started to and then he was talking

with this child, When, of the person in the person, then the

conversation, because front of him, that's the woman, he said, oh, when you're

when you're going to be invited the program? He said, the first I have to

talk with Alanis. And he said, oh, okay. And so he didn't talk.

So, he's and he and of and of he's that he there's

that he and then he bolted and see a a person enormous

that's that's a ruby with the hair long perfect

eyes eyes the skin like if never had

never had this person alto atl atletic a

person one 90 okay totally not not not

exactly with the physical of a Mexican. So, this

this guy was like a Swissue so this perfect. And he was there and he

was there so he not molest but like so he and he doing it so he

he said he said you who you're and he he's not he's just he being

so then I'm to see to see you're you're you're you're

to be you know? And then then in the mess all they're in

silence and he he'll look at this person and he says ah you're at you're at

the nizzo and the quater is so so so he he's he doesn't

he doesn't he he gets a so he a little and he he he he pega

and he he does so pass and he he he he'd be the he says

well say well so so and this quater immobile

vying with with with his man he says Oh, no, saludas? Well, okay.

So, he's Sienta, he'll tell her, and he said, what we're talking? And he said, what are you? What you're going to

do? Well, I'm going to say. Beastia. And in that moment, he, he's par,

he'llte to his around. It was impossible that someone to let me to get to get to

get a to get to make a big. And so, and so, make noise. And I said,

you're saying, you're sure of that you took to? I'm sure. He was the hand, so suave,

but in the pecho, for to say, to say, to say. It was a person physically was there.

Physically was there. And then, I said, what was the problem? I said, is that I

am the only person that he was, for so all they were all they were in silence.

Because me They were talking with the nada. I mean and

give him and give him to do the hand to do a person who

not was there. Al Anis he presented only

for him the most eseptic so so. Fidate

that they share for that you don't know, the

thing of the playiadianos how is how it's how they they're

the description of the angel Miguel or the Archangel Miguel with

those rascals, also the other side of the continent, grandes, atletic, musculos,

muscles, rubios. But I call much the attention Fepo, how is connecting

a little the divinidad with this type of phenomenon. It's is a very,

I'm to say that's more uned to normal, that also that's

in this circle of three, because they're being parting certain

aspects, but I think that conform going going to know many

things that I think that we know that we know we know that a person before you

know what you know what you can't understand so I think our own our own our own

our own our own to get more know more more a little we're

going to let's get for there a invitation to do let us an invitation

to a person that I believe to say to I can get

a thing I thinkeria. That's good. Dispuest to give all the information, but that's

so she, occulting all, all, all, all, so your rostro?

All the voice, all. So, all, so, so there, so I'm,

so I'm to be able to see, but can't pass things, ohla, and so, and then

they'll be to dociety and that's and then, and then, how you're past you? Very,

very, very very well. The truth. The truth is that I like much the

talk about this type of things because as well he's Paco

and also I'm in this I'm I'm in the part

of the backstage when not they are they're going to sometimes

I'm thinking to the people that we do what we we're

what we we're and let's say honestly and we're

we we the body of the alien and blah, blah, blah, no? And we're talking, and we're talking at a certain of certain things, so, in this, is more, I know that in this corner, here is where it's,

where it's, it's where... One more, no? Yeah, so, yeah, it was, the first, he said, but... The most, came here,

and he says, there's a, et cetera, here, there's, et, et, et, et, to, et, et, et, a lot, and they said, I said, okay, I think, I think, I think, I'm,

I think, I'm, I think, I'm, I think, I'm, I think, well, then, so, while no, it's like, I mean,

I'm going to so I'm going to so I'm going, so I'm so that you're in your studio, that's just me spanked.

I think you know, I think. Yeah, I'm really. I think that we're going to talk to that's, yeah,

yeah, yeah. When we're also, we're in an exploration that you know, I mean, I'm I'm sure, I'm I don't know,

I'm back to because in my mind was like to, they're passing things. Yeah, and I'm I think,

is that Paco try pegged things there because it's about the phenomena paranormal and brujery

and all this put that there are invite to be in the studio is that it was normal so that's

that's moving the cable what they were there in the in the area in the thing you

move to but so so that materialize something and the reality is that not

and they're going to these things I'm going to I'm thinking that I thought

because I thought it was that I'm that was like I'm talking the person when

we were there, I I'm a pegged much a Paco. Me, I pegged much a Paco. We tried him like, we're like, we're going to be a moment when they started to the golds and more, I went to see

a Paco, because I, I had put a nervous thinking that they were people, that were that were there, that were in a problem, or so, I went to to see, and then

behind of Paco, I saw like a peter. Ah, so. So, it's impacted detrace of him, but if I had been

a pass on back, Paco, he'll but with a violence, I said, and I'm so, I mean,

what I said, and I said, and I said, and I'm going to get to an end up you, but it was,

but it was very impactant because I noticed that, that interaction of the other reality, yeah many

times very very close to you. Like, like, the, of some kind of

can be to be dangerous but it's about so it's about

that's in our environment and I think you're a person very sensitive to

these realities that's that's manifest they're a way more

more more powerful to and it's very because I think

I'm a man of these things we we're we're we're

in the studio and the truth and the really is that I'm just I'm

just I'm that can happen because it's of what

we of cameras and the chido of this it's like like all the people also to do this conversation.

It's that I think the thing paranormal is what has a lot of many people and has that the

community is a great, a grand community full of people, amants

of the phenomenon that have lived many and I think that's what is what

is what is what is the type of yeah the first the first that we

collaborate unil the communities that know and that still

being one of the most fertes because for me is one of the most fortisimas

that there in the people amante of all this and while there are people and

those others like our our people who appreciate we appreciate and we're

we're going to talk of where conversar and to keep to continue

to talking to all the people. Can you repeat your social other

other other other many thank you many And thanks to all

and all and I thank you thank you the conversation that we've the conversation that we've been

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Thanks, Fepo, thank you, to all those who get in the final. You know, I'm

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