EXTRA ANORMAL - Historias de Terrores Nocturnos Reales: ¿Sueños o Demonios?

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

En este escalofriante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias recibe a Sergio y Mynor de ‪@EmisionesPodcast‬ para hablar sobre uno de los fenómenos más inquietantes del mundo paranormal: los terrores nocturnos.😱 ¿Qué se esconde detrás de esos sueños donde no puedes moverte ni gritar?👁‍🗨 ¿Son solo trastornos del sueño… o visitas de entidades oscuras?🌒 Testimonios reales, experiencias personales y teorías que te harán cuestionar tu realidad.👻 Si alguna vez despertaste sin poder moverte y sentiste “algo” en tu habitación… este episodio es para ti.👉 Dale play, comenta tu experiencia y suscríbete a Extra Anormal Podcast para más relatos que te quitarán el sueño.

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front of her. And this being like if was a dream, but was there was a realtor and, in fact, it was the

middle of the cell and it's like a animal. So when he gets in the dream, she and also he also

and we're, and we we'll talk to see the two, I remember that we're getting

and both we're both we're both we're doing in the whole, all this in the

a dream, no? And I remember to have said, is that my papa no knows that's dead. And I feel how he's going to but not were a sonrisa. She was about

me. And I see how his car is like to get like to get. Like, it's like to get to

and it's something that's great. And I remember that he did you, you think that you're

to be a fear when what I feel for you is odio. Because you you're using the image

of a certain that I am. I'm going to be able to go to be able to go to be a lot of the people. I'm going to be able to. What I'm What I'm

Welcome to a podcast Extraanormal. My name is Pacoarias and I'm very And I'm happy to be in a chapter for

all of you. Family, today, me accompany some people who some people have been asked, when I was,

when I was when we've been to be able to talk about, and today we do it's that comepani from very,

very lehano, my name mynors and Sergio, how are you? Very well, Paco. Much thanks

for invite us very content. The fact to be here in your times, thank you for the invitation.

The fact is that we don't know we're not we're just centred in front of you.

But the is that always for there we're in the comments when they're to sit with

to talk to talk to and then we know. Well, so much thanks for accept

the invitation for come to where we we're to be a long. Let me

let me say that it's the way I've been more my house. That's good.

I'm very familiar I'm so. Okay. O'Gon my people I see

that much people you have seen in a clip or your channel that has

much time, the really have much time in the

time. But for if someone is not a first

first I'm like the present in what are your projects?

Well, in our project, as missions podcast is

our our our baby. Yeah, we yeah we

have done this content particularly focused in the ambit of the

mystery of the paranormal eventually I think we have

we've focused in the aspect of the history obscure, of the things that there are behind

of the characters and even of the practices and the, those pensions and the I think in missions has been

something like, I don't know, part of a studio of Sergian Mio, the day-a-day is a, a form of

life too. That's cool to me I like much to be this manner, because I was when I was

very, very little, I was very co-barde Paco. I was of those that Choki

no, he could see, so, So, one day I think that the MEDEGNASE of the

unsecognos So, then to learn of these things, inform us, to know where these

these terrors, you make a way a little more quiet, without to care in the sobervia

to understand all, but, but accepting that there things that are going that we're

going to understand. The phenomenon exists. Yes. And simply that has been a way

a time to the history of the sci-ke. And, point of partida

always has been like the paranormal, the unexplicable. There's many

phenomena that occurrens and with those who coexistimus in our reality things that,

like you mentioned, are inexplicable, no have an explanation, and that's what many

times, it's what it's a little so much comments of people of people who

say, is that I don't know the paranormal and it's very valid, because I always I

said, I've said, and it's said, it's it's it's

creas, until that you do you get to understand what many stories

to the long of the years decades have been in different books,

the origin the origin puro of the legends, not the where nace

a where nace the jorona that there there

there the history nativa is that that is much

sometimes incomprehendible and for this night we're going to talk

of a thing very interesting because that is terrors nocturns. The night, I don't know if you,

if you guys do you, there's a phobia in the people with the obscurity, with the nights. When it gets the night,

the people suffer really because they to think to what there in the occult, what you can't be at the

moment where they're in the light of your room, or when it gets the moment

to close the during a duches, it's a moment a much perturbator

for many people very aterrador what what you think you're

it's curious this thing of the obscurity because in the

personal I have many opinions in torno to this time

because since the I think has been inculcated as

part of something that not not because it

is the inexplicable and the things exist more

to I remember much my father that he

was a person that always took a a, um, a good for

these things, he's being a person of a person of because

he's a person that's dissonance with your profession, then he like,

or he give the attention all this and he in some occasions he did

something that he's something that he says something that he said that the obscured

not had not should not be a need a natural but only is something

is something that is something that's there. And I remember that it was, well, me I'd get a, a closet that we had,

that were totally oscura, if you were, aparted the light, and me said, what is what you see? And I was in that moment I said, well, I don't know nothing. Fidate

well. And I started to be things, started to be forms. And I remember that in this time, I was very fan of the movies of these of Fred Kruger or Jason. And I remember

that I saw, even in that obscurity and in I think that your mind begins to perceive the man of

Freddy Krueger in my in my mind of my mind of my mind

to be in you know, because I said that I'm saying, is that I'm really,

and I made a mind that when I wanted to to talk that in reality

not. The things are the night, is something that's something

in the dark not are reales. No doesn't nothing. And

conform me passed on the years, I I did the fear to this

part, to this fear to be this human that's even the

people that's even the times they're they're they're for the

night, because it's where it's where it can't these these these

other places. I think that is connected the night with a but also

I think that the human has done a negative to the fact

the of the absence of the light when you confronts

to your time when you front to the nothing, your mind, your

conscientian, begins to create, and we can't even materialize, your pejores, totally. And, fifted, that not you limit simply to the vista, Paco. Because I know, I've noted that what has gotten to lastimed much to the society

ultimately is the reds social. I think all that we know. And I think that deriva this fear to the obscurity, with the fear to silence also.

We're banning with music, with a podcast that much thank you are doing in this

moment, but there people who can't not get to get in the tele-prendida. And I

think that's precisely that you have mentioned. The fact of our demons,

that's the real real fear. And as the fear, the fear of the fear of the

disconocid in my case, in my case, my house always, it was

really, when I received visit Well, if I saw that he put nervous, I go, I mean, no, because it was it was my house.

But, no, it's something, it's something that's, I think, Sergio, we're from the night. Oh, yeah, but without,

but, so, really. No, also, really. No, also, we're not sure, apart of that he's a work

this, in my case, I do copo to study, for to read stories, although have been occasions, and

I've mentioned many times, I have the necessity to say I'll continue of the of the first yeah

yeah, so so on the if you're really so now if I'm like to start with a story

this story is called senisas and it has to be with the theme nocturno

because normally these manifestations about what what what's what you

happen during the night's this a child a woman that in that was

in this then I had 15 years she I lived with her brother of 11

his mom and his father. Family normal, um, let's catholic,

normales, so yeah, no, no, I would have a kind of a thing

about a thing, he said in a one occasion they were in the cell and

they mark to his father. It was a family very that in that moment

he communicates that the best friend of his infancy that he with

that he was playing, unfortunately had fallen. His father

is a very really because it's a good friend, for

questions of the life, I'm like his way, so you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you're, you know, you know,

that's things that can't in the mind, and there kept, and they

didn't planes to re- because they're family, et cetera, and

unfortunately in this moment well, no, no, no, so no, so in that moment his papa because

they decided cremary the body. As the family knew, that were very

friends, from the infancy, the family he chose conservar the sinises.

But as they were their father of the fallecid, he he never

took this encounter, he said, you know, you've let's the

one to your time to your and you don't us

enteras interesting. That's like to do you like what no it's like

there's there's there's there's there's this chica that's his father

with the sunis of his and he was not he never to find where

he said he said he took a mecita he put a mantelito put the

penisa the photo of his friend and a bell and say like

for to honor his memory and to etc, no, the thinking of the person

and it's the problem is, I don't see if by you have you have seen the

I mean, it's a question and this is a part of many stories that you don't have

the senis of a house. Of the actually, it's just what I want to

I mean, I mean, I'm that I'm, that no is, that no is, like, like,

I don't know if the rules, the clero, they obligen to have your bourna in a,

in a church, no, in a camposanto and all this. I've got to understand that not easy to do that. I mean, at the final of the end up, and you do you do you want, and the funerary, you do you do, do you do, do you know, but I've got to be recommendable, nor, ni, ni, ni,

any, of all the whole list. Figgott, that's, in my case, my papa still is to be with us in our house, but in my family, no we're, not, no, we're probably Catholic. Or, I mean, I'm a education Catholic, for

some time, for some time, but maybe if, is, they're but actually, I mean, there's

there's in turn to to God and all this, but we don't have these rituals

cathodical in the personal, no, no, I didn't a problem with this.

Yeah, well, Mindner, and we know we know we're for example, I,

I said to my mom, that had put your father in an church

for that not that was to be not my mom my mom, as

the family of minor, if they're more stricted with this. More reserved. Yes, reserved.

Okay. Well, in this case, they're in the senisa of this man, to the house is your

best friend. He put in his altar, and then the family, like no said that was a person

very important for this man, not, for the father of family. The detail is that

a part of that occur this, they're to happen to start things very raras in the

house. But the person most affected was the his major, the

15 years, that he has a story. She has she said,

she's that for the nights, like I'm a quarter with her a man

in a other, and I'm said, I said, and I said, textuality like she

said, she'd get to gases. Okay. Because gave the olor to

a gas, so, like, a color desagradable. And I sometimes, like, his camera

was, like, with the foot like he said, oh yeah, not you know, or bet the bathroom

or salte. But she was always not it's a question habitual. He said, oh yeah,

let's do you get to be what you and the next time. It was an olor

flattulences as ah, like as a great for there many

most there are on with usuf but but the reality is that I've

never have olied the suffre but you have solided those

yeah yeah okay Okay. They were passing the nights and constantly that allure,

but the rarer is that only she was only she was not her and his father, and in one

occasion, pass something a very curious. When she's when she gets a

not something different. First, he's a movement in the plant a back,

like when you know when you sillas, platos, et cetera. And she says, I think my papa so my mom so he went to

go to the door of his parents and they're still dormidious. He regress to his room and I still listening

the movement. There was an occasion where she started to have been to have only wasomable

and I sawmable and I'm like the resplandor of the bellator that was

in the altar and And he started to hear the passos like of someone that

was up the escalers. I was listening to the passos. She

she can't she tap completely because she says someone is up someone

entered to the house I don't no, I know, I know, I know, she

kept looking to the door of the of the room and see the part of

the the endigita in the space I'm I'm I'm I'm

how the pathos And it's a person. But it was a sombra.

There's there. There's there. The space above of the

door. When she see that the person that was there

practically was on the other side the door. She

she is she tap completely and doesn't make noise

and it's totally and he can't how the manika

they they're to get to and they start and

how they're opening the door despite despicito. In that moment, she

grita of the fear. They're his papas running, alterated, they're in the door

abirt but no be nothing strange. So, his wife to say, is that I saw this,

I've seen this, I'm going to this, his papa starts for all all the

other, abutations, bao, salas, the doors were in the windows were

not seen nobody. And they're saying, I'm sure you've seen, not a pesadilla, but his parents

had the intrigue of why the door was open. They're in the door. A

part of that she started to do with her mother, because the olores in the night,

yeah, I said that it was a problem paranormal, yeah, that was something that

was the room, in one one occasion, she recalls very well, being

being playing videohue in her court, standing his mom working,

her father was for her brother at the school, and she was in the door

over at the room, and not they're that they're like that something, and it's, and say,

my papa, yeah, he goes, because what he'll get, is pantalone of

mesclia, camis, quadros, as you see her she, she, she she no

know, she did she, it's, it was like it was to the court to his door,

to you, say, oh, yeah, you're you really where

my brother she talking, she was she was she was and she

he said he's he got and he did a count that he was not

the car there's no there no he he

she she she she she she was a

lot of situations very very difficult to explain

because the senis only going to be one

one she she said that this was because of the

senises of the best friend of your father. And with a little of a good of a bit of

a little of his father, I think this is, for this reason his his wife,

no, no, he does he he, he, he has appreciated you, he,

he was, he said, he was, trying to to change to change that idea to his

idea, and I a day before that they were the things,

she she went, she she She said that she can't

to get to she's she's she never she didn't

pretty she'd get a dormita and when she she says she she's

she she she's that's in the kitchen of the

room and be all the environment rare like with

colors more red like much people describe that

is the astral in the world nirical exactly

She said, she does know that that's conscious in a dream and he's out of the

kitchen and get to the cell. When he's the cell, see the altar and

see a person there was a parted of the back. She knew when

be like the resplandor the camis of quadros the pantalone of

messlilla she was that was that was that the man that had

seen that had and I wanted and this man no he said nothing he

he said no you don't you know to do you're going to do not she

obviously impression she's she's how this man he says only

I want to you tell you that my Charlie that I'm I'm

he's very niceio but you're a good good father

is a good man that a story, man. Saludal.

She and she has been like, alterate, so it's what I'm so I'm

really, but he said the word Charlie, so, like Charlie, yeah,

never had heard that that I see the need to to tell to her father with

a little and a little, and his papa and then he says that he said that

he said, when we were ninves. He never me called for my number.

He never me said Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. And it's for

that you do you do you do you know, I'm that you said the last

night that he conserved the suns. The rarro was

all the lot of manifestations nocturnes that occurred those the

olors strange the the the rudos but was a

woman that was a person despeders to his good to communicate

to communicate something that's because well this this series

of things that were going to seem like a kind of a type

of entity not benign at the principle but with this last

message like we just in clear that really really

really so it really was a person so that not an

entity that was that was not that really really

Sure. The world of the history was very strange because when I was saying, I'm not,

how do you do you know, how do you normally? Ah, so? With these old colors

desagradables, mosques, questions mediums, extrana. But that at final resulta

that for a strange reason, it was so, no, that's that's

a question really, no? So, because, because it the, the,

the, the, the, the, the spirit, the Alma of the Amigo

is a way and it's a matter. Because it's really that when one

this one of these stories and it's associated as the thing of

the of the is like very characteristic and I think are the

stories that are when when they when they're when

they're that has been that has been the person has been

the part of part in that the daughter of 15 years

has received those messages I think it's also like a indicator maybe she she has

she has done exactly because it was the only that was the

I mean he was not even his family or so I think it's

kind of a kind of kind of exactly and the fact to

kind of well to let's let's let's need to have to have to

have to have to the person who have this sensibility. Passer the message, no? Yeah. The curious

is that much this message not pass to the person direct, but there existen these points or these antennas

that are between us. That could be you that you that you can us or you to know,

a more you know, at the more you know, you know, in the that these entities that are in

us that are literally all the time, some do you know the vigils, to who who are

only passing, for example, in your house, that's there's there's

in those there's there's there. Simply are things that are there,

without any reason specific, but that many times they're in the

antenna to communicate to a person, because much

sometimes depends of that that person. Or, or maybe

they can't even they're a message. I mean, Well, we know, Minard,

this, he said, there was a person that was a studio, that had a person

evident, and then the fan of the curiosity, he said, hey, you see, something here, you know,

you know, and that says the bato, that's, that's in the skin, there,

there was, there, there was a, don't you don't know, so, I mean, I'm just,

like, so, so, yeah, they're basically, the studio, the people,

the people, the people, the media that have been been here.

Let's we're like this. Yes, but some some are like they're like going to be

the power and like they attract the energy of the place. Fans of your podcast in the other

dimension that you imagine that. You say no, what they're what they're what you

know, the energy that's the energy that they're there's let in cards or

pass and things and kind of that's about how it's how it's something

because I don't think that they're receiving the sound or the words that we can't emit. But, right, you've got to

tell a story here in vivo, and I think it's very, very very very. Yeah. So,

you know, so, you know, thank you. Oh, thanks. The fact is that there are many of these

stories that there are there are times that can be very impactants, but at the time,

is interesting to know that this all the time exists and all the time And that's not necessarily is bad, eh?

No necessarily is a bad. I mean, I mean, that story is an example of, but as you say the fear of the

disconocid, I mean, independently, if it's a phantasm intending to communicate, if you see, if you've got to

get to do you, you're going to see, it's very interesting that part, because a, I mean, me have told

stories, not, not so, of the senisas specifically specifically, and however, something like, oh,

is that, oh, yeah, and I'm is happening this. And I, the first thing is your abelita.

I mean to your abelita? No, well, there's other people that also say,

because to me no. Exactly. It's precisely for that the antenna, the sensibility and all.

And I think that could get to be frustrating, but at the way, it's a

responsibility of the fact of the to have this experiences. And, and,

there's a story, Paco, that I want to be one of the

stories more that we have made that we It's a story that, in fact, a few times

has been in our program and in others. And, well, one of a seniorer us,

us, we know, she's a little chica, said that there was a name that she had

not said, but that name was Rosalia. No, I didn't know exactly to what they were to say,

of why, maybe because was because they were really, well, simply not you don't know

because it's like, when you say, you'd say, diablo, because In her case, it was like, no, do it, Rosalia. One tia of her,

practically her second mother, was a person very apse, a, well, to all the family, because in reality, because in reality, she's, at least a matrimonial, with a number a little

major, has been a 20 years, and basically, she becomes the mother of the family. He's to take much responsibilities because,

was, they were, they, they, took a, a relation familyar, It's a bit dysfunctional. So, she assumes that paper. For what

much, uh, but they, they're in this carigno like the, like the mother of

the family, no? For this chica, for the seeidore that we send to

this story, um, the she said, she said like my second mother, no?

A day of many, when she completed 15 years, for those years, um,

yeah know, more of the story, this tia not could have children, and

for reasons of the destiny, like when she had 10 years, her tia he'll work adopt to the her wife.

This, she does like, she does like, to form practically , well,

but she was like her literally, she, she, and she said, thanks to

her prime, that she she has to talk a little more of what was her she and that

Tal Rosalia. When when I was when a chick the tia convivia convivia

with something that was something that was to come and at the

beginning without much form but I was that was something

something with what they were to be to be to live with and

conform to start the time this something is

something in a figure in a figure she has to pass for the

name Rosalia Rosalia Rosalia said that in reality she was

her her mother that the mother of this woman

of the woman she had robbed in a thing that not

was that that that that in this was part of

a type of a kind of And conformed to pass the

year this tal Rosalia not only is a woman but it's to appear completely

to her but the great difference is that the tia was that the hair ruby and

Rosalia of the so we told us sheidora that this she not was

she was for the moment in the moment in that was a day he's

a night and has a a dream a special in the

super, be to see a his tia, be to his he was he's

he's a lot to be a woman that's a woman, and this

woman only she was she was and he was that she

had a car and with his tio and they said like the

carger they said no they're not no they didn't but

he said okay in this moment in the moment no when

me told this I started and I started to and the

thing there's there. Conform when they're to pass

the years I'm a very for the family for this

family because the tia because the time he

had a terminal that in a few times

term he and then and then he he

he obviously he and for that time something something

something something starts in the life of that family and

they're that the people have they're in different

with a figure that was an particular in one

on a cafe internet this this this this

she made the and and they're a little

a in house and with with with his

mom and the mom simply simply she got

He had a time, the child he's a little, the and the mom

about with the little, and he said, my my tea came to make

pasta of a very specific so that then

they thought they're playing or something but they

start other things they they they and always with a smile,

but it was that this entity not always could be communicate. A

sometimes only was only was just a smile, but a smile

not very very very very. With the time, it was

something was, I think was the point of this situation.

The that was her in life, the the a day of

Tantos presence to this woman that's that's a lot to be

a mother, Rosalia. That woman that she came, while

she's in a cell. Serca of her was the mother of the

family. The mother was very religious and I was really

in these things of the spirits and and even even

said that existed the demonios and this type

of things. And I knew that something was in this house, but no I knew

exactly where because she never had never had never had nothing. But in that moment

that was there, this this chica that then then I had like 15

years, she began to see a the she was her mother, no,

the way and this she starts to start. But conformed she begins to gettear.

Conform it's a gettear to be to be to be to be to

that he describes as a humanoid black wrugged that and he's to gettear

front of her and this being a dream but was a but was

there was the old there was an little in the center of the

cell and it's in an animal in that in

this moment the chick entered in panico nobody nobody can nobody

can't start, he's a cry, he'll his knees

in the sillion and nobody know that's when they said when they

said that they said that automatically starts orations they call

a a sacerdote limpian the place even they

they've to a various sessions to a family complete for

to try kind of rites christianos not of exorcism properly

but so like this type of purification or so exactly and with

the time this entity simply disappeared so maybe he said

he met you in some maybe not we also

we never never no so that of this ser

is sufficient for that you do, I know, a present to

be able to see, at the final of we're talking of the

person that I'm that I'm to useurper the position of other

person. Exactly. So, so the energy of maybe conviviening

even directly in form physical. You know you know you know you know

you know you know that's that's a famous dopengganger no this

side Fidate that one one a one of a person rapidissimo

me explain me how it's it's supposed to this entity

is like the part of a person a person suppose a

human is a person a person or a figure dual in

every no no no no that doesn't absolutely

any mal or absolutely even even even putting a

criminal that has done things very very very

They have their side bondadoos. And for there we've put us a example of a person

that was a person who did a lot of things tragic as with women. So, of the fact, it's

also common. Yes, so, so all the human have this duality.

The detail is that like this entity, the dopengger supposedly is like the essence

pure of a person that is to get to disrender to, like of your body

so like this energy is to this energy because it's like this energy that's this essence of your body, okay, I was like this essence of your body,

so I was, you know, I was like, no, I was like, in the I had to eat something a little bit, a mentita, or even the first times vomitabha. And she knew that when

this was that she had been that's bad. But she, she, did some way

was conscious, yes. But she did she? No, or was inconsient, he was inconsient.

She described that, before, that, before, it was, I was to feel

to feel a lot of the head. I mean, at the first of years, because this

do you know after this is she had I know the thing that's when I was going to occur and the

last thing was in your university that making an exam he started with a lot of a head and he

said, he said, oh, God, I'm in the school, how will go to go to

and they're the marreos, the marreos and like a lot, like you senties that you'd

you were going to be a little to and she would be to be to be out to be outside of the school,

there was going to me. So, like, I mean, so, and the other people, the other people,

they were in, because it was a matter. It's like the phenomenon of the bilocation, but we know, like,

like, some way, the sombra, this famous sombra of Jung, would be out of us exactly,

and it's and it's manifestar like in a bilocation, but only this part of exactly.

The story that I trygo, I mean, just like, I'd just that just that

in question of how resolve that this problem this child? I don't know. What, what did you?

Well, no, never it does it. So, no, there's a way.

What she does, is like controlling this, but, control it in what sense?

Empeas to understand how it's a legend, but it's a legend of the

Dupengger, it's supposed to useurper your identity and, and this

person between commies is you get living your life. But what

what you is that it's not it's not because if it's it's a auto-destruiria.

It's like a paracito because you can't get to control it definitely.

So what she does the final of is simply to be conscious of the

times that this happens. It's like a maldition but a condition

at all the time. All we we have this form

to do. Fiat that I also me to get to to ask

because she is that she's my side malignant. I mean, I know of some that's the

part more most of the more sinister of their but I'm put to think to say it is it's possible

because how many people in the world is in the world, no, not have

seen like there there's a paco, no, an this, a mind or a

person or or that is conscious when it occurs that's, it's that this theory

that is more being the the fact of that and that's supposed to you know

you're going to get to you know, how's people, and I'm sure that's heard of, oh,

hey, it's like you see in that how you did that so, how you did you

do you do? The fact, the history that I that I that's that I'm

interested in that I'm interested in that you're because, unfortunately what he was a

fair, that's a friend of our is a solution. Okay. This story of

really we've lived in time we're in time because we're always we've got these things

so when when I was passing to this, to me was to make a message or me

called because it was very strange what was it. Well, resulta that the

context of the family of Fere is that is he the major of three brothers.

In those then I was with his two two parents. He was

he was a two three houses in front. He he And when it's

to have these terrors nocturnes or paralysis of the dream? I think it's

something that many people know, or so seem familiarized because it's terrible

not to get to get to and I mean to the people who know it's that your

body get completely paralyzed there are some like explanations scientificas

on the end of the rem and the conscience of how your

body still still still This is. This generates, in some way, hallucinations,

it's very common that the person that suffer from the paralysis of the suns have hallucinations of the type like demoniac

or of or of phantasmas, monsters, desgraces in general, no? And, actually, also they're

also their point in the point in that maybe is your same system of defense that's trying

to starting to start at you, but that's that's but that's so is. The

the world is very sabio. No, we're not to say that no it's just, I don't function. I mean, at final, I mean, it's just you're doing this, because this story, as I said, this story, as I think we've,

we've lived in time real, and Fer was studying psychology. So, he was put to learn much with respect to this. Passed over the seminars, passable the times, and because of the lack of sleep, he,

he began to feel to, he was, uh, well as, wellas. In fact, he he started that he just was

to be in malas. He was to be very aggressive. He, he said, he said,

he was a major of three brothers. He said to one of the he went to

he got to submit to the cooo in a discussion. Obviously, he

me he he was very appenado and I repented I'm repentido I'm what I'm

what I'm what I'm what I'm the The part that The part that is like

Delicata because it's going to this, it's going to be to try to

therapy that they say he says, change of position to do not

functioned functioned partially really this still and a day

I was in my house I remember and he he makes Fer and me

he said oh yeah you're what me he was what he said man. I, what

What happened? No, no, no. So, he's, he said, well, as soomate. And I wasombed, and he was just to his brother, of the middle, in the corner. And what, what happened? Look, me, says, that resulta that day, well, his brother's had been looking, and is very specific,

he was having a game of thrones. Fiatte the feces, more or less than we are we're talking. And I tell you that is important, because the, the The transcurs in the story of these people of this series 50, 56 minutes, no? He said that he was

watching the series and, of a sudden he gets to someone he got to someone he was in the moment he was in the time he was in the time he was in the time

of the school, etc., no? He got to and he said, ah, well, he's over the door and is the fair.

Ah, yeah you've got he said, the Alan and he says that he I don't answer to, or nothing.

No, no more the door. And he says that in the quarter of him,

was he was the perrito, the tommy. So, I just heard he was, he

was, he was, he was the end of the capitol, in that they're his papas

of a place, that's near the somewhere, and the , and the fer, and

so what, the fair, and so I'm my friend, my friend, the who supposedly had yet

he had yeah, and he's, no, well, I don't know, yeah, so I think. And he marked,

oh, why you're going to you're going to you? He said, I'm here in the university. I never

went to the car, Allah, no, I say, no, no, I said, I, you

see, I, you know, I said, no, to do you know, I'm heard, I'm going,

and you, I'm going, I'm, well, there is when, there is when, for example, he's a

much, and he's to go to the question. So, in this

moment, we're we're We reimbled of that. Empeas going to go to

start with a point in a day he made a photo so on the he said he said

he had like a arugnazos like after after having desperate just to

a paradise of the dream he was a mom also a

something to hear to hear to hear to hear to the house and

he was put to play to but in reality no had

yet one one He says he He was Acosted, Fere was with an friend of

us also and he says he gets to the house and he open the door and he says

his papa ah, that's good that you got to that he not received response

that he he's like like in the umbral of the passillo only and that

even go and he's he goes and he well he will care to be to get to

because at the more the air conditioned or what you

at the day the next and see that's the fair is going to and he he's

to do you know? No, well if I'm to get to do with my friend with my

friend and he said, no, no he said, no, no, I don't, I'm not I'm going to

get to almost very, very, very cotidiano yeah was the man,

and now to the father he took for the the case he's he

again with with those therapies and And, of some manner

they're quite to have to have these palaces of the dream, he said he wrote

the colchon he put for all parts of all the positions possible until that for

the end he had to pass. Passed the years, and then again, and I

said, I know, I know, yeah, I see, that's that I'm just, because

obviously baragiaed the options of the doppelgger of the even of the possessions

because he had to be very aggressive, et cetera. So, so are signs of

a person possessing a person a person a result of that's not of that we're a

problem but at the years result to he gets he came and me a story

that his tia he was was passing very bad in the life

and so and his tia go with a brao and the bruch

he says yeah he's the he's the little he's but he he says

ohye he you you have you have a Sobrino, really,

he said. A brucho so, no, that no, that's no, that's,

no, you have a mind, you have a no, so I'm, well, no,

and he's and he has happened things, rather, and he said, no,

well, then, well, and then, and like, and like, they're,

and like, he's, he's, he's, he, he's, he said, what he

says, what he is that in that the And one, she wanted the life of Fer. So, I mean, he wanted the life that had. Okay.

So, I was trying to, like, suplier in his life. Just what we've mentioned right, well, this, of the fact of the paracito, that this was, at the final of course, if it was to end up being, was impossible for this entity. This, but very curious, because,

there, the brucho, he said, someone mal. I mean, is a demonio, no,

it's, simply it's like a natural, a natural of these entities.

Like, they're not so they're not so they're they're imitan

because is what they're what they're what they're okay. The case is

that when me told that story Fer, he had a year he'd

a year Phenomenos had... It's been so, it's had been so, it's a year that

I don't live there. And result that in that year, he said, he said, I puts

to think, and this year I got my department, I've got my car, and right

my, my wife was an married, it's like if this entity me would

have been having been all these years, my development or what

so, like, so, a partacito energetical. And I feel like, wow. I go, felicit for all these advances, no? But

the case is that after there, no, no, but for example, that story, between those the friends, well, we know, we know that if we're saying, wow, that's interesting. It's that's the effect of when you, it's a pegged a morto or they manned a murder. Like, so it's a learer a murder, let's hear them, let's turn,

the mal, the malaysuces, of the infirmities, desgracies, et cetera, et cetera. And it's the same effect. Mm-hmm. It's basically the same. I mean,

I made with what he said, Buruho, he said to the thing, this of these, really not, not are so,

like, they're like, you know, so, well, so it's like, a leon, that's,

a devididor for care for care, no, I don't know, I mean, I mean, is very great,

is that the reality of the bad and the mal. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And I think

that also in a certain form there's this this mixture

of narrative in those that's like the paralysis of the and the

visiones with those entities can be in certain point

in reality not not it's really not not of

experiences that maybe if are in the world in the

world in the space of time. There's there is the second

house in that that they've lived in family to them. Yeah. Rapidito, because this

is more more of the terror nocturno because resulta that in one of these paralices of the

suanour, this Fer commences, he gets, he gets a, he's he's, he's,

I never had a parisis of the really, no, I'm never, never, that's,

that's, I'm, I'm much I'm much I'm much I'm sure, I'm not, I'm sorry,

for you're presumed. Oye, but, but he says that what he's that he's

Saka of this trance is his brother grittandole Ferr, but I go he's just he's just

in the university and he'd but he was he was he's and he's he's in his

house in this moment know and he and resulta Alan the

of the first he said he said he when he when they were in

a little he was in a letter so then he had fair here

Alan here and the other the other mann'arriva. And he said that one of those, it's a one of those, he'd be a figure sentada

in the, well, in the in the, in the, in the, in the camera, well, no? And that he starts to, this story passed, well, he says, fair, fair, fair. And he says that Dichitae, and those then, as they were

they, was not detected who were. Okay. But, but, yeah, of the is that you,

I mean, because he had like, a barb and all this. The appearance. The appearance of a fere

adult, and thenying all FER in a fern inseyeye so. So, so it's

surprising, and just in these paralysis of the suno, the fern see that,

that, that, that, that was, they were sitting like in that camera,

I, so, in some a way there's some there's a crossed the

clables of the reality way. So it's a fall it's a and then

of the same paralysis in the middle of the mislocation of the dupeganger was a

it's a story very complete no yeah actually this story no

this story in the channel if they're in a special of Halloween. I think 23 23

23 23 this is yeah both both they're both they're

quite interesting like to be those two stories in in a whole so it's

very rare no? I mean imagineate to make many elements paralysis

of visiones fall in the reality so if it's a ranch skyl walk

and so and what curious is that so a mind like a

a mind that's a mind like a mind that's a much in the

reason being a so that is what that is what I

like even even a story that this story is very

interesting and I would like to know his point of his point of this

name the man demonio me remember much a

story that one once I exactly in Wauhaca this

this he a leticia a woman that in the

year in the year two two was he was

a point to start a studio in an

normal superior and to be a master. She said that out of the preparatory had to present

his exam in an university in the capital of Oaxaca, but that's unfortunately, not like his companions and they were like

a house to get to be a family. I said, I don't have in any family no had the money

to pay me in a hotel or al-al. So, then he said, I played my papa and my papa

and my papa to ask to ask with some companions of their work, if

no they could do an hospelage to some some

people and and so it was like he he got a house

that he was a very and that was only for my city

even even if me and I said I'm there I'm

there I'm there a entusiasm a very a

effort that I was a great to the capital of

Wachaca and and he gets to a house and

he's a house sumamente bigger sumamente with these

rascos of many years that have passed and when you know it's

it's it's like if not a nobody a a common

in the part of the room in the lot of many and she

did you know a man an anciana this an when

she when she put feel because says that his

kids not visit. So, so it's it's so I'm my visit. The people

that come in and she's me do it's not much to come you know, I'm going to be so

she'll be so she probably never probably I know, probably me to live here a few years. and I'm going to.

So it's all over. So it's, a passillo repleto of portas. Like, it was a house of a guest

in some moment. And no he's kept with the doubt, and he said,

it's a house for a house for more more than a year. And he

said, this house was of my parents. And now very, very colonial.

He said, me, me, I'd have the room where I'm going to

get to the different. And the descries. It was a abitation

very austere. So it was that nobody had had been there

for much time. Oh, I'm not there had a windows, so I'm

a quarter in a little bit more a mariel that was and it was like an environment

very lugure very, very, very, very, very pesado. But, but she

in this moment, not he was, I was always because he had

where I was going to be to and that she was she was she sent a

great to be probably not the most beautiful, the house more beautiful, and the

house more more beautiful, and the only only only had a camera individual. He said

that the roof was very strange, because it was there there were parts where had

a lamin. And there were some monsenes very grosos where they had

like the structure. So, well, I began to clean them, I'm

got much a much polvo, much basura. There was a spee also,

that was a trapo and it was very soo and it's the first night,

I said I'm sorry, I'm my uniform and I'm my things, I'm

to prepare me, not? Because I was a time and to be to get to

get to and then I'm I'm very time. In that then I'm

those Disman. I put those audiphonos and I was I'm

reproducing a CD some those 90s finales exactly we're

talking He said, I was just I'm at a point to get to get to

when when when it was at the one to the morning

I'm to hear a baby that was laughing was laughing

like like they like they like I don't

my room no, my room and it's I'm like

the house like there a and did a

the most hego families of the young, I know very normal he gets

a dormita and he got a school and he goes to the school, regressa all very

normal all very very very normal all the night

the second night she can't to sleep again and

pass the hours and the and the and the

time the baby was the baby was a gritty of a baby

of months of that he's that's that you don't to get to get

to get to the and he's and he says, oh, the

families of this senior has a baby that no me to get

to get two nights and or he or he

or he and so then then then then trying to there

and something and something he's at the hours he came the

year and he got she went school. When regressa

and he he's something to come to the woman and he said, oh,

it's really that's thinking that her son that's a little, his niece was his niece was

and she was and the she was he said, what you say, of what you're, it's that

has been family here, he has a little no he doesn't do

do the she put a car extra Only we're you and I

in the house no there's she said she she's a quejave previously of her she's

exactly and she like how if I heard of a a baby I said I saw

how the look like that she was a kind of maybe serious but

but extrana and she okay and she he started certain speculations

probably it's probably No, I know. But yeah was a spinita very rara because she

jured that came to a room of the second the second plant. The third night was

very extrana because she kept up to time, preparing, so studying, she, she,

that's the times that you know, you know, you're, you know, like you can't, you get to

get to the paralysis of the suing, and I hear, and I'm, I said, I'm

molester, and now see, I'm going to see, because I'm going to the

woman, no, I know, I'm the open the and when he's

and when he can't be a paralysis. Paralisa. And the baby, says, it was

she was it's not out of the room, but I don't know me could

move. Dice, I see, I see, I'm the light, and it's

very rare, because I feel like the sound like, see, look, acercating, acercating, until she she mentioned

that he gave to hear of a little, like if were scarce centimeters of his ear. Here I

had the great. That was, not, no, no, no. Nothing. Here, here,

the, the grito of the little, that no she had to hear the eyes,

and it starts, and then it and then the other, and the point the a little

Skaia, no there's a little she's going to move

looking and she does a question of the there's the eyes,

and see what see what it's a look because it's

that the door see a a baby like four

or five six six months that was that was gote

in one of the mountaines of the say I

no I know I But, but heavable a rastering a

cord that was connected to her and he thought that was like his brazo or his muke,

so I had arastraining like a cord. And of when I was like here up to me,

like the little that the kid, and he does know that he was connected

to his coo. And he she said, I see, I see, I feel how the

cooce he's he's like the man and he gets called in that moment

she says that's spantada I want to I'd get to get to move and I

could see the eyes trying trying to say it's a pesidia the

the the the noise of the because when when the eyes

he does know that the man he had the eyes had

and he's being he's he's he was he's

like the little the to stucer, like that's like it's like

a hogando but he's to get to get he's and I know I

know how it's a car in the face in my front, a thing a

terrible. At that the end of the infirm so. And he says

I don't despertable not it is like when you you have you don't know

you you're I'm sure I'm seeing seeing being that the

baby between commegas collado with all that part of the book

full of the body and the end up I'm going to start it's a

very difficult so before 444 at the morning and I don't

do you know I don't doormy I don't I'm not never no I'm no baby

no there but I kept thinking what was that was what I heard

all the times I'm at the seven in the morning I'm at

my to be at a baner me to the I was super

I'm but that that's that she he's to get to the

school guard all his things in a maleta and decided not

to go and she said she when she was she

was she and only I was the she was the

she was there and she looking and she

was there only she was the last time,

it's that I pised that house, I said, I'll contested to my

friends, that I have made an space in a department that's renting

between all. No, me important to do on the the

piece, but what whatever that that that's a house.

Something that's a story that I remember much because normally

this so when when the master, I've mentioned

doctors that are going they're very very very and they

talk to lead to deal with things that not precisely are things that have

to be with an ambit laboral but something. My my

my hermana fichate that was also a a

town a and another again and again again some

some that that's that that's more because you know

because you get a person and you putes in a context in a

there there people in Mexico that are very magical and that

there are there are legends that there are in the questions. My question,

you think that the woman this said, I'm this, yeah,

because I was, I said, we said, we said, we said, I said, I said,

I said, for a reason that she's a woman, that's she doesn't,

she, she, she, she, no, no, he has committed

a crime, He said, this, I think I think the house has more of 100 years. So, more of 100 years, 120 years. So, then was a hostel,

was a house of wespels, pardon. Vivio, and it, but there are people, oh, not all, but persons that are

more, adults, that are very apprehensive with their vines. And it's like I don't go to here,

because it's my, because me costed, because it's I'll go to my parents. That's also also the other than

the entities. Yes, exactly. And me imagine that for that reason to be aferrars to this

that's my nobody wanted to get to be there and having tantas abatations nobody

would get to live there. And we have intended to do that the reality is that is in

Wachaca but this occurred at the initial of the 2000 well of the

dismag and all yeah I don't see if the she was living

has 25 years. I mean, we'll, we'll get to this story, you're going to tell you. That's interesting, no?

It would be good and there in the house. And, and over to know what's going to normally, the houses

that are so they're like, they're doing, are constructions very coloniales. And look, how interesting?

I don't see you've been the possibility of that that maybe this was this said,

but also that maybe was a thing to something. It would be a story of

very interesting because when, for the general, when when it's when it's when we're in this

type of stories, maybe there a, there's a experience for there of the

and the and that he had had been like a child, etterapos, no?

Who know? Who know? But why? But why? That's that's really,

that's really really, I mean, it's very very, but to be so in

that situation rying- I mean, that's super-tric. How you said ago, no, that

a lot, that sometimes this appell to your pejor's your your your seguer

your scene of that's that's that's for some of the life or no

see if maybe, can do cause a terror and that can allow

the energy of this entity. That fear. What fear

definitely. And figureate that another of the stories that we're

we're a history that actually can be something that's a explanation

a little to this type of things because, well, this happened

so past many of years, the actually not even in our

country, and it's a story that's a time, we've

a time and and pass in a place called the

victory. The really is we know we know the Colombia unfortunately.

A very a lot of those people. Pronto Pronto Pronto.

But, but well he comment that this colony is a colony

that in some time, but one of these colonies bravas,

not, where there was there's there's a lot, but in this

place, uh, his father, arrendable a department. This

department was in a third piece like of this type of

when, when, in the initial when he was, he was he was

he was he were a men, they were not a men,

specifically the age, not I see, but I know

people like yeah by the third age, principles of the third

age, no, very intelligent not to say a number very intelligent. Then we're like that's

we're going to we're in what we're like a third age and all this well

these people are a lot of reason received much much gehers for part

of the people that were that were that they did they were like they're

like things things rather not because then then like

why they're they're So, without much the Papa of our

of our he made a message and he says, to these, uh, these, women,

but don't, because in this time, not it was like, it's like, they say, oh,

you know, then the the truth is that they're saying, they're going to need that this

is your last month in the department. Cosa that the things said, it's

well, we're we're going to be to get to come a month, and

so they're they're they're they're they're they're perfect conditions. And,

well, only were tranquillament without, like, something, something they were saying there,

that, they're saying, so, yes, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, we're going,

so, if, we're doing, we're doing, this, this department, is arrended to another

senior, a young, so, 35, 45, 45, years. We're,

we're just a son, this, sir, a man classical for legends,

but for anonymato, no? Well, Jacinto was a man who, yes, he was a normal, uh,

he used to go to bar, in can'tines for the nights and, and then, being a man soltero,

eventually, then I was something, so, a thing normal for him. Also, he liked to

talk, this in this, in the, uh, in the, uh, in the,

uh, one of a night of this man, uh, he, he,

This, this has to what I've said to say. It's to presential things strange in this

department. First thing rarer, that I'm heard that they'd like, but as

I said to this department was in a third piece. It's rare that I did I

specifically to the department of the third piece petritas. And

that a piece, a a, a, a, a third piece to a

to a third level, back with a force and But it was like this toqueto, nothing more of piedritas,

pieditas. He wasomable, no be a nobody, but nothing more than that's he'd be able like that

someone took a door or things for the style, but it was normal because they were in a becind

and could pass that one that one because they were even even the departmentes.

But well, one, a night of a, to these can't to get to to the

like to go to go. And, well, the is that if she put some good cups, because she regressed

he went to his house, to get to get to many things. It was like in this grade of black

out and all, but that was still conscious, not was not that was just to

get to when he got to the house, not she had, she had, like, I had tried

a man because be a woman there in front of her in her in her in

when what happened this? Well, maybe if she me the I'm at

like it and he started to get and in this lapse of time in that

he's only in his mind and say this this and he

starts confused and all this the woman to get to

her but when she starts the woman to be

to get to get to and he And he said that he started to be like a mass

oscura, amorpha, that was over him. And in that moment, it was horrized because he saw that he was front of something horrible. And when he attempted to go out, so he got to see that this mass oscura he retubed the mukees, and he said that he chema was, that in really, he chema and he don't know the mollia's, and well,

and describe much of what what happened in, you know, where. Also, also he started how he

did he abackito. That's that's dismayed. So, desmaya, the terror

that he had, we'd be a a pesadilla clearly. Definitive. But at

the day next he's with marks in his mukees in his mukees,

the pantalalerns those had to and automatically that the same day

he marked to the father of our friend

he said you know I'm I'm I'm I

get part of the month for pay you I

I pay this but no I know I

don't take the and I'm there when he

I told this story that I don't I really

really really this really really that usually was

usually was It was like, I don't know, the world, and this entity that for there

was a manifestable, is connected with that what was that's because it result that

when the Papa started to see to get to get to that's,

like, that's in reality not were not fiestas. In reality

were sessions in those that entities, see I've got

to know that those women majores in reality was people that were

people who practicated the bruchess and not any kind of kind of kind of

because like to these girls not was much that they were

and they're they're there something something that unfortunately

the Mr. Jacinto term he turned paying no

obviously that after after all this they've been a sacerdote

because no one he was to try to get to that after this story

but if a when a door says my friend that

the the the the was like it was like were

animals without no like if had been put

out out of chuffaction so for months for a

great period of time a died. But not was so. Because when revisited the

place, no, there was nothing. Nothing. Of course, it had taken all. No, they're not to

the moment if that really was really was a demonio, really was other thing, but what

is they're sure is that is that are some in that something, something, with the

time they'd they'd because in hotels, motels, hostels, the people have practices

very rare. Of the of the people is very strange, no? I mean, they respect the creencers

but what the necessity to want to have been a time? You've never has created? No,

I've done. There's but, but, but, we've tried the place in

the place. We've mentioned that me has taken to get to to get to there's there a

car very very hostile in the and of a repent to learn many

like you tell you know, people that evoked over all demonios, entities,

practicate, I don't have no I'm people who the brujeria I have friends,

brus the problem is when they're like these portals abirtos get to

people vulnerable like people, like people, and are who are

people they're they're a rath definitely. Yeah. That So, if you consider

then then you have a certain sensibility? I, no, no, no. Figate, I loggro perceiving when you is very evident.

In the team, we have people, we know, okay. But, I've intended to

start that part. Okay. But, is very complicated. It's complicated. I, I think,

so I think, I'm, I think, I'm, I think, I mean, I think, I mean,

I mean, I mean, I don't we don't know that sensibility but fiatte that I

think with your expertise in stories, no? Yeah. I'd me that me to

me say, what what happened because the story that I'm going to tell is something personal.

Okay. My my, my, my pap in October of the year

passed, he came to complete of fallecid, okay. So,

in those 10 years, I do so I do you really really really

really and my father is to go for cancer. So, this, he was, he was a

old old in the family was, uh, he's got to, in those two years,

we've been situations very, um, forties, incomodas, difficult. I go,

there are some that the families can't much more for these things,

and this was the case, me. Okay. To what I'm, I'm

so I do so my father. For the general, never, never

He doesn't say nothing, no He doesn't, more well, like, he me He said, et cetera, no? But there was a occasion in the he, well, he always

was in the kitchen, in where he had, you know, a barso of a service or something, and

I was going to get to get to fumar. It was like a certain routine, no, of the days of the

time, no, in this he was doing that he was even I even I live there still. And I remember to have

seen and have seen much a lot of but much, much,

much fear, he, and I don't see, it's very difficult because I don't

I wanted to get to him, I was that something was not bad, I was

something, I was something, I was a, my, for her part, she thinks

that has the don't of the clad of the life in the dreams. And I think because no it's not in the

reality. But she also has also the sensibilities of the dreams and he likes the

thing. So when when they get in the dream, she and also he also and we

see and we'll we'll see, and me I remember that I did, I

was with the more I'm apego during my papa was never.

So, I remember that we us we're getting and both we're

both we're doing in the life, all this in the thing, no?

And I remember to have said, is that my father is that

my he's and we see, and we're we're and he had

had and all and it and we're not, he's he's he has

done that he he's he's a little that's something

that's what I know and I'm and I What you think is or what could you say? What I did? What, what I did? What, what happened there?

Look, I've interviewed a much of brus. A much people that have done very interesting, very fervantes, very fertes. And I asked, how to know when a familiar to you falleces, how to know that person really is? we know

that exist demons and entities that the same Bible mentions that they can be able

to be optar appearances very important for one and the actually I

have told earlier that when when I my mother that is like my

mother my family my family was a one form beautiful and I'm all the

I said because I don't I'm with her And I'm And precisely when I Pied to

Sune with her I'm with her And in the I see I feel and I feel very

beautiful Because I said I'm looking But I'm But But it's To you It's

Yeah So I'm Because I'm Because I'm I'm looking And I I'm

I'm looking And I I'm And I And you know It's she No is her

No She Yeah Yeah And in that moment me kept looking this in a

dream and I see how he starts to read but not it was a smile

she was about me and I see how this one this one was a

dream how his car so it's like to get to like to get

to and it and it and it's notable and I remember that

I'm I think you you think you when what I feel for you is odio because you

you're using the image of a ser that I'm, you can't espantar because I was I was too

I was talking and I was confronting and in that moment I'm like put the kind of a kind of my

dream and I know my dream and I got a lot of but I'm not a dream I was really was I'm

really really much you're you're a conscientious of your lucidess exact, that very

few times me have passed. You, you think Paco, that in these experiences

onirical you know, you know, things reales. Yeah. So, for me, there are

many, there's many types of dreams, you know, one, desperniments, you're

in the astral, you're in another dimension. There's only are some dreams

and yeah. There's there's there, there's there's that, but in this in

special, I said, I said, a person, I'm, why said this person,

is that you asked to sonia with your abel the problem is that you know

you know you know you know you know you know and you look the opportunity

and he he said you when when you did you did you did you see that

she said but something in my interior me me made

feel kind of I'm so is that many sometimes you can

say this this burla this risa a precisely that just like

a burl. But, but the people have a form very natural to read.

You know you know. You know how they're in the person. And detects when a person

not's not in the life, in the life, no? So, I, I just,

I've never more that experience one way. I do, I do you do you know very,

very, regularly and I even, I like, because because there still, no,

and it's present. It's present and for and we've to hear that the

Mertos in Sueyes never never had never had a conversation with him for example

Fichtate when I'm when I said this person me said the spirit knows, your spirit

is the that bel for you when you do you know is the that's the is the

thing and has a lot of things and the spirit knows when you're you know

that's like that's kind of that's saying something that's you're saying that the person

that's Now, there is something because when the people, and this I've been about many times here in the podcast,

they communicate on the time. Before to say, there's a message, there's a phrase that

how I call the attention. Or is, I'm a time, or only me just to get

a moment, or always there's a message like, I can't be here, but here I'm a rattito

and you do the message. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that,

to, open a Caja of Pandora of you know, you know, who's the time, who

did a time, who I'm a friend, I'm a friend that's a friend that's a lot of

his experiences, a, um, a sinfine of experiences that, I said that she

all the anniversaries of his abuel, totally I, I, I,

had a conversation conscientent with him. That's he, he asked, he asked

for his tias, he asked for his mom, he asked for how

they were and like if it would have been a continuation of the conversation of the year past, so, continued the next year. I've heard of that, but of, the entes like invented.

So, like, they're even, I mean, and I'd say, that's, I mean, that's, I mean, that's,

I mean, that's, so, you know, because that's really, because that's when the soul,

it's, it's never, and it's more the news, no? I mean, to final of the point,

is not so it's too, because no there's a or no there's a transcendence or no

there's a tunnel that you get a lot, you know, and I'm to know the phrase of Samuyer

of the same in a space or time. They're in a space of time. They're in what you do you

do you do you think that's what I'm with my with your with your father.

Yes. Because it's has been has been there have been messages, no at through me

but you're through these people canalis of messages accidentally

for type of things. But unfortunately for us for my family,

I know, I know there's if they're if you want to want to but I think it's part

that's part of the of the kind of the way of the way. Wow, the

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