EXTRA ANORMAL - Historias del Rancho Paranormales: ¡Bajaban Bolas de Fuego del Cerro!

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

¿Te atreves a ir más allá del miedo?Hemos abierto una puerta… pero no todos deberían cruzarla.CONTENIDO EXCLUSIVO AQUÍ :⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcastextraanormal.com.mx/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Escucha ...y ve los relatos, exploraciones y casos más perturbadores y crudos... bajo tu propio riesgo. ⚠️En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias conversa con Nazaret Martínez de ‪@PodcastMasAlladelMiedo‬ sobre los misterios más escalofriantes que se viven en los ranchos, los cerros y los pueblos donde la noche no perdona.🌄 ¿Qué son esas bolas de fuego que bajan del cerro por las madrugadas?🔥 ¿Son brujas, energía maligna… o advertencias de algo más?🌕 Leyendas que han pasado de generación en generación, y que todavía hoy hacen temblar a los más valientes.🎙️ Escucha relatos reales de:Apariciones de fuego en zonas rurales.Los cerdos intentaron llevarse al bbPresencias oscuras en caminos entre cerros.Encuentros con entidades que cambian de forma.⚠️ Si creciste en un rancho… sabes que hay cosas que no se explican, solo se viven.

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Starting point is 00:01:55 Howell Welcome to a A full more of a podcast Extra Anormal My name is Paco Arias
Starting point is 00:02:09 And I'm very happy to And I'm I'm happy Because Today, I Today, we let's
Starting point is 00:02:15 We're We're We're I'm of my Favoritos The fact Are there are many
Starting point is 00:02:20 Stories of this type that we have in the bandeja of the Correo, we're what many people expect.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Histories of Rancho Part 2. And for this super episode me accompanies a great colleague and
Starting point is 00:02:33 also a friend and I know the good Jesus of Nazarend Martines. How are you? Very well
Starting point is 00:02:39 my thank you. Thank you. Very content to again to be here in Tierlas
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Starting point is 00:04:37 stories of Ranch Part 2 you you are in a part where
Starting point is 00:04:41 in Mexico is about much of history like in Waxaca precisely
Starting point is 00:04:46 also, also, Peracruz, part of Puebla, Mexico, well, all the
Starting point is 00:04:53 country is full of histories and you, why you'd think you precisely
Starting point is 00:04:58 that in these zones that are in the civilization probably or where
Starting point is 00:05:05 there's this urbanization and I refer to the ranchos because you think
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Starting point is 00:05:13 many I think in the major part, all these manifestations that are in the
Starting point is 00:05:19 people can be observed with more facilitation because the silence, because that no
Starting point is 00:05:25 there's many many people, so that no there's much, so buggice for there
Starting point is 00:05:31 between those the cities. I think in the cities, also there are
Starting point is 00:05:36 this type of manifestations. Since embargo, given to all the people
Starting point is 00:05:40 are at the prisa, always they're to the Carrera, no observe in
Starting point is 00:05:44 this class of phenomena. Passed despercivied. Exactly. So, we're in
Starting point is 00:05:48 a little little bit more solitary, more between the naturalness, can be more perceptible.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I think it's, thanks to that's that you can observe many times in the
Starting point is 00:06:01 people. I have a time that I'm going to get to a tomb. A
Starting point is 00:06:06 phrase that since I'm it's very simple, but if profundizes in the
Starting point is 00:06:12 phrase, you understand many things. When we visit us, San Juan
Starting point is 00:06:18 Evangelist Analko in the Sierra of Guacca, that we went to find out
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Starting point is 00:07:09 that almost no urbanization, animals, and between these, we're we're
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Starting point is 00:07:24 past of not not, not, not, to be to you, as I'm to see a
Starting point is 00:07:32 when they're so they're so much, so that that part of the sound of the bosque,
Starting point is 00:07:37 what I'm to remember because me and me teletransporta to the world so magical of that we're
Starting point is 00:07:43 in the history of the rancho pass much, there are many phenomena, no exists one only. There are
Starting point is 00:07:51 ranches there last that we we've been we've been about the history of
Starting point is 00:07:58 the rancho the pokar, one of the ranchos most pesados talking in terms
Starting point is 00:08:04 paranormal where they're going situations very very very but the
Starting point is 00:08:09 stories that we're this night, people are people, they're past,
Starting point is 00:08:14 well, are the testimonies that we're talking about, we're that part to give
Starting point is 00:08:20 a boss to these stories that us get that people probably lived something
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Starting point is 00:08:30 one of the person that's the story of the plan me said nobody
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Starting point is 00:09:10 I'm about the initials of the 2000s, initial of the years 90, years
Starting point is 00:09:14 80, even one of my stories, it's about at the year 40
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Starting point is 00:09:26 that then there was not many things or customs like the day. There are
Starting point is 00:09:33 some some stories that are a sonar a little fertes
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Starting point is 00:15:15 what I'm, what is what he? Dice that in the potrero be a figure that was coming
Starting point is 00:15:23 and I see I see how from the way he was like a mancha and he
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Starting point is 00:15:51 luna in plen obscurity and that this being a type person type animal he was
Starting point is 00:15:58 a lot of the animals. Dice that at that were the animals began to abort
Starting point is 00:16:03 the gallina the cerdos and even those people of my abelors began
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Starting point is 00:16:18 I said I used I'm my other way my abuel started and I
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Starting point is 00:16:35 more more completely it's like it's completely covered
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Starting point is 00:17:16 me I'm I'm taped completely I don't know that that was never in
Starting point is 00:17:21 my life had ever seen or seen something I don't I'm I don't
Starting point is 00:17:26 I'm said that he's he got up up until his
Starting point is 00:17:30 until his his about his did he moved first
Starting point is 00:17:37 he he went first he moved the moving the door
Starting point is 00:17:41 he He gotro the lechoncone that yeah was, well, you know, he got to go to the potrero, he's an oyo,
Starting point is 00:17:54 he was donero, and tapo. And she understood to my abuel, the times that I went,
Starting point is 00:18:02 all the mornings or I'd or he'd in the potrero doing ojos. And she no,
Starting point is 00:18:08 I don't understand because in that moment he was, that not the first that was that
Starting point is 00:18:15 So, like at the 11 years he started to receive all this information
Starting point is 00:18:19 of this and in the disjune was she he said to his abuel to his abuel,
Starting point is 00:18:27 he said when he says that when they're doing that they're doing and they're looking
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Starting point is 00:18:47 to see this I said yeah like they're like they're like no no no no no no no no no no no no
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Starting point is 00:18:59 because I did see see see what I'm I'm much really and he described
Starting point is 00:19:04 what he he said he said that they're so they and so you
Starting point is 00:19:09 see with you with you with with with you know I don't I think
Starting point is 00:19:12 no I know me but but her regawn practically they were with his
Starting point is 00:19:17 papas and she says I don't know I know what was going to you know in a
Starting point is 00:19:23 principle the kids many many they ignore the things of those adults a little a little
Starting point is 00:19:28 no no doesn't I mean there's but they're like they they're living their
Starting point is 00:19:34 they're they're they're they're they're they're but I don't
Starting point is 00:19:38 understand because in the preoccupation of my about the night
Starting point is 00:19:42 I don't I don't know why my my abuel had a door and windows with a security
Starting point is 00:19:47 and not I don't think he his rancho constantly was visited by a certain
Starting point is 00:19:56 animal or a certain entity that he was a same. And so what curious
Starting point is 00:20:02 is that this was that that that guy that, that for certain
Starting point is 00:20:08 is a guyo that's a guyo that's a family, very very very certain. And talking, you
Starting point is 00:20:17 passing the years, I was, I was about with my boyl, and he said, the oldo, he said, the abuelo, he says, no we know what is. We know, and he does a phrase,
Starting point is 00:20:29 it's a person that comes to other world, but the can't of the gaio, at that hour, he abre the
Starting point is 00:20:37 door. Dice, terminated, they're, obviously. They, they, in that moment,
Starting point is 00:20:42 we're talking about of the years 80 desivier to the gallo and curiously he was
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Starting point is 00:21:21 and me says, although he's got to go to many years, that image that I've in a little,
Starting point is 00:21:30 that, that entity, that being the blood of that serdito, me still still even
Starting point is 00:21:38 in my pearsidias, I'm seeing how it's every every every bit of
Starting point is 00:21:44 it's a interesting fifted fittate that's always you're always you're
Starting point is 00:21:51 you're going to this type of stories this this is not that I don't have prepared
Starting point is 00:21:55 like to in this program but it me makes very interesting because
Starting point is 00:22:01 you're certain similarities this this story me they're
Starting point is 00:22:06 specifically here of I don't know how I'm that's a place, but I'm saying that's
Starting point is 00:22:14 a person says that there are certain apparitions, there are phenomena paranormal,
Starting point is 00:22:19 they're that many people are in these spaces, these balls of fire, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:22:26 et cetera. The person that's the experience, Juan, we say that he has a
Starting point is 00:22:35 story of his father that unes with his experience paranormal. All this are
Starting point is 00:22:40 to understand when So, I'll tell you all. And first I'm going to mention what what was to say to
Starting point is 00:22:45 his father. His father not was a person that was paranormal or maybe intent about
Starting point is 00:22:51 blocker all this class of stories or phenomena because he passed for an event
Starting point is 00:22:57 about a traumatic when he was a adult this those, all
Starting point is 00:23:01 living in a in a public as like San Miguel of
Starting point is 00:23:04 Casas then they had much things in there
Starting point is 00:23:07 divertise. So, then, then they were to different games that in those
Starting point is 00:23:14 times were used and they used and in one occasion his father and his tios
Starting point is 00:23:21 observe balls of fire justly near a area that was like a
Starting point is 00:23:27 a and they they're to start and they have to get to the bruchas
Starting point is 00:23:32 we're going to let let us we're to be to So the papa
Starting point is 00:23:38 is with the brothers to the zone more near where they were in those balls of fire.
Starting point is 00:23:44 They said it was in the time and when they're in the place, they're that they
Starting point is 00:23:50 had been aterisado a little to be where it's where is the interesting. When
Starting point is 00:23:55 yeah they were very to the area to the area of the
Starting point is 00:24:00 this man in those times were an oldlescent he tried to You know,
Starting point is 00:24:07 you know, that's that's that's the game, yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:24:10 don't be so they're not, we're we're going to be. We're this person
Starting point is 00:24:16 and when she gets a little a baby that's a year and just right where they
Starting point is 00:24:22 were in those balls of fire. When he's that you, see that
Starting point is 00:24:26 in the part of the back of those water there was there there was
Starting point is 00:24:29 like a symbologia made with and just at the center had
Starting point is 00:24:35 a envoltory, like if it was in the of platano, of bastago, uh,
Starting point is 00:24:40 something and he does a kind of that was the baby that was there. So he,
Starting point is 00:24:47 he, in his fear, in his fear, this, the first, the first
Starting point is 00:24:53 he was, well, I can't let that that he. Sure. Then he's,
Starting point is 00:24:58 he got, the baby, he goes to get to where they're to, what are the, what did?
Starting point is 00:25:04 What did? What did? Well, Then I get to the baby, go-ons, and they're going And so they're going to And they're going to find And they're going to When they're going to
Starting point is 00:25:14 To get to their house, they're going to get to the fire Yeah not they're going, yeah no, they're going to, and their parents, and they're going to Reignate, where are you? It's very tard,
Starting point is 00:25:24 you know, that no they're not there in the area in the area of, this, Boscoza, and all very assuptated, palidos. It's that we've to the balls of
Starting point is 00:25:33 the fire, to the bruchas, and rescat them, to the baby and the papasco to the baby. In the emboldtory no there were babies
Starting point is 00:25:41 they're like that was re-enno but they were a bit of all the time they were playing with
Starting point is 00:25:48 them was like they were like they were like they was a incident in this
Starting point is 00:25:53 sir pass on the years and this this muchach this this muchach said that
Starting point is 00:26:01 he took an experience a very aterrower that that connect precisely
Starting point is 00:26:04 with experience of his father, that in some moment he was
Starting point is 00:26:07 he was he's he he said he's he was in a area
Starting point is 00:26:12 where there many little houses that were medium
Starting point is 00:26:16 well and that the part back had like a
Starting point is 00:26:21 ranch where they had serdos they were cattle
Starting point is 00:26:25 and they're pat and all they're together separated
Starting point is 00:26:29 for certain may but there they they He never had
Starting point is 00:26:35 seen the manifestations of the famous brujas until that occasion. He said he's
Starting point is 00:26:41 he's a look to a light roja, like a ball was a front and
Starting point is 00:26:46 that when he was doing he doing his things, he did know that this
Starting point is 00:26:51 ball enormous and was there in the rancho that his
Starting point is 00:26:56 family and when he was he did a question that was
Starting point is 00:27:01 this ball of this ball of this with what were the CERD
Starting point is 00:27:06 simply it was the ball so when I'm doing that so it's tally the
Starting point is 00:27:13 eyes and when he'll see the ball of the fire and say
Starting point is 00:27:19 well I'm well he said he didn't he said he's not
Starting point is 00:27:23 to make the night yeah the night it's so No,
Starting point is 00:27:34 he He wastes to get the bathroom, always I'd go to the kitchen
Starting point is 00:27:39 and, then I was taking the water that he had to take. When he said,
Starting point is 00:27:46 he says he says that he he said, he's a something something. One of
Starting point is 00:27:50 the cerdos was out of his corral. He was was coming on two patas
Starting point is 00:27:55 and was pursuing to the gillienes, like if he could be like
Starting point is 00:27:59 to get us and so and so. And And it's the
Starting point is 00:28:03 same than when he was the ball of the fire. He will to
Starting point is 00:28:06 talk the eyes. And the only that I see is the
Starting point is 00:28:08 person and the little and the guys are you get and
Starting point is 00:28:13 they're so I'm like I'm still still. So then
Starting point is 00:28:17 when he will be to all normal when
Starting point is 00:28:22 he when he got done when he got very exaltado
Starting point is 00:28:26 very very of fire, what was what was in the impactus. So when
Starting point is 00:28:36 when you hear those struendos they're all very very assualled and he a soma
Starting point is 00:28:41 for the window and he does know that that no of the cerdos was in
Starting point is 00:28:45 the corral and that some of the animals that were there were those pats
Starting point is 00:28:50 the gillinas even even some other animals were even
Starting point is 00:28:54 when he when he was that the first that he was that some animal
Starting point is 00:29:00 had met to the ranchito and that they,
Starting point is 00:29:03 but, but no, no, no, it was going to do a detail important. In those
Starting point is 00:29:12 times, in those times, they were those they were that they had to
Starting point is 00:29:16 have a baby. So, so that is very important for what reason.
Starting point is 00:29:24 The impactos were there were there. PAS to that, not
Starting point is 00:29:29 were the sirds. And the first that he's to say, you're going to get here, not they're
Starting point is 00:29:36 not asom, but don't pass a nothing, no, and so the sir, with a
Starting point is 00:29:41 scopet. When he's to see to observe, to see there was a bit of
Starting point is 00:29:49 that the house of those people, he was there was a and he
Starting point is 00:29:54 took the decision the sir to get to the house. When he met to
Starting point is 00:29:58 the house, is heard the strens of the impactors. The sir actioned his
Starting point is 00:30:04 device. So, just see that his people go to the baby, the sir
Starting point is 00:30:11 that was, the the sir of the house was totally full of the liquid rojo
Starting point is 00:30:15 and they're to get them to help us to help us because they were very very assustated.
Starting point is 00:30:22 In that occasion not they didn't not to understand being being
Starting point is 00:30:25 being but at a past of a time they're questioning about
Starting point is 00:30:32 that situation they're to say to the father what was what was what was
Starting point is 00:30:37 there never you know this this detail is important the the
Starting point is 00:30:43 the redos that were in the house of the and the man
Starting point is 00:30:50 he said to be my man this this heard they were
Starting point is 00:31:00 because they had to fire to the because they were trying to
Starting point is 00:31:05 get to his back to our our our so that's when
Starting point is 00:31:11 were the struendos it was because ultimated to they were they're
Starting point is 00:31:15 coming like if they were people and just one of them
Starting point is 00:31:18 was he was exactly exactly that what so and when
Starting point is 00:31:22 so when it so he he got totally totally
Starting point is 00:31:25 impacted and and there in in that moment is where his
Starting point is 00:31:29 father is where he said that's the experience that I'm the first of
Starting point is 00:31:33 how they're when they're young he and his he and he was
Starting point is 00:31:39 that was a kind of a type of or something that was that
Starting point is 00:31:44 was in that he's and the thing that he took his
Starting point is 00:31:49 he took his he was with what he took also when he
Starting point is 00:31:52 was when he was a some or of a point
Starting point is 00:31:58 of view, they're going to recuperate that the baby. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Occupando to the animals? Yes. And there's where came in various
Starting point is 00:32:07 theories of some people. You what think you what so said
Starting point is 00:32:12 with those herds? In reality were the were the were gawals
Starting point is 00:32:17 or were gawals that were through those those lights
Starting point is 00:32:21 of fire or those things or something that
Starting point is 00:32:28 Look, I have a theory, well, a hypothesis, is a hypothesis, and it's a bit
Starting point is 00:32:32 local. But, for me it's a Jacobo Grimber. Yeah, a Pachita,
Starting point is 00:32:39 and well, the theme that I think, I know, the scientific, that for
Starting point is 00:32:44 the community scientific, and for the chaman was a man, and for the
Starting point is 00:32:47 person studied, that, that of a point, he'd call the attention
Starting point is 00:32:51 of the thing of the matter, uh, various books, the
Starting point is 00:32:55 one of them the theory syntergic the theory where it's where we're that we're
Starting point is 00:32:59 that we're we're we're connected as if we're putting the
Starting point is 00:33:05 example like the above of the earth with their
Starting point is 00:33:08 all they're connected and exactly and they can be
Starting point is 00:33:12 they're in certain manner tomando in count that
Starting point is 00:33:17 we we're in a plan we we can connect
Starting point is 00:33:21 us medient the connection quantica to this camp like this
Starting point is 00:33:27 nuclear, this the fount and that we can we're we're not
Starting point is 00:33:31 we're also something and that we can't connecter between us to
Starting point is 00:33:38 what I go with this before before I'm there there
Starting point is 00:33:42 there there when when conviv much with a
Starting point is 00:33:46 person inconsient you you connect with you how
Starting point is 00:33:49 you you I'm that you you're seeing this episode, you have passed. Agarst the
Starting point is 00:33:54 telephone, marcas, a, no, a, to your spouse, to your friend, a no-se
Starting point is 00:34:00 to say, and before that you say, you're saying, me leased the mind. I was thinking in the day.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I was thinking to you're to mark it? Well, we're we're not, we're we're not,
Starting point is 00:34:10 we're there's, and there's a experiment of Jacob Greenberg, that's the of the
Starting point is 00:34:15 of the soldiers, et cetera. I think there much he he's not to know, but to unar
Starting point is 00:34:19 so. we're connected there are occasions where also there's you're talking you're talking with a person
Starting point is 00:34:27 suppose we're talking about a one's a first person say in the same phrase or the same word and says
Starting point is 00:34:34 ah so like there exists a connection in the world shamanical in the
Starting point is 00:34:40 world of the folklore Mexican with the shamanes and all this with Samudio
Starting point is 00:34:45 I was a time the time of the Naguals the those sabios
Starting point is 00:34:49 that They're who know how connect to connect to the person and with the animals.
Starting point is 00:34:54 So, occupant the animals, like the eyes of the alco, the olfato of the
Starting point is 00:34:59 perro, and they can't connect their psyche with the animal. And we put an
Starting point is 00:35:05 example very clear, of a shaman that was in a position, like,
Starting point is 00:35:09 a meditation, and at the, he was going to an alco, a, pardon.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And he he said, what's what's passing. And the savio, one of of the chamanes, more saviour,
Starting point is 00:35:21 is that he, even with the eyes because he had the eyes and he's seen and you can be perfectly,
Starting point is 00:35:32 you see to the imperfection that you have to the face the eye of the alco. And is where
Starting point is 00:35:40 he's where he he's an connection of how if you can't connectart and use those things,
Starting point is 00:35:45 how far you're you're so far to use it. I mean, loquism but if
Starting point is 00:35:53 we're going to that there's some methods to amplify like if were the magic, your senses
Starting point is 00:35:58 occupant, I'm at this point I'm to say occultism but occultism real, or chisos
Starting point is 00:36:04 and things yeah much more more fertes and even, you can't you can't
Starting point is 00:36:09 to be to do you. I'm I'm can't can't can't you
Starting point is 00:36:12 can't and the others that is not only control an animal but that's something, something that
Starting point is 00:36:24 get to transmutar and you are the famous one of the way that we know I think taking into all what I mentioned
Starting point is 00:36:31 that was necessary that they could control to the animals. No, is that the animal is not in this episode
Starting point is 00:36:39 we're not mentioning the maltrato to the animal. I am most the animals. I have the two perros
Starting point is 00:36:45 and in this moment gatos. So in no moment and for so I mentioned that the
Starting point is 00:36:49 stories were made in the many times where probably in that moment was normalized. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:36:56 But I consider that this technique that you mentioned it, if you can get to control a
Starting point is 00:37:03 animal in case of that a person a little. No, I don't know it's an
Starting point is 00:37:09 hypothesis and that is my fundamental. If you're doing this, I don't know, so you see,
Starting point is 00:37:14 it's certain that that in the cultures, of our antivos cultures,
Starting point is 00:37:19 it's mentioned that that it's that's people who are the people who are the
Starting point is 00:37:27 kind of the tonal. It's supposed that we know of us, those who are
Starting point is 00:37:32 those who are for the most Mexicanos in these culture it's said that you
Starting point is 00:37:35 have you have a tonal or an equal could say but in form of
Starting point is 00:37:39 animal. Animal. So the that you don't want to say that you
Starting point is 00:37:43 can't mean you But those who were more asercas to these things had those faculties as to enterers in their tonal, that's a tonal is an animal
Starting point is 00:37:56 and by the end of this observe at through his eyes, by this to do certain situations and if you you're a level that's quite
Starting point is 00:38:04 advanced, you could get to get to take their form. It's that the part where if you can't take the
Starting point is 00:38:12 form, I mean, this is a a thought super magic but tantas legends
Starting point is 00:38:17 about this same phenomenon and not only that the transformation is a simple,
Starting point is 00:38:22 it's dolorous super dolorosa. The fact the human person, it's
Starting point is 00:38:27 because one I get a type of ritual that does because
Starting point is 00:38:31 it's like a person has to do a certain different and does part
Starting point is 00:38:35 of the ritual and it's when they're they they're
Starting point is 00:38:38 they they're to That is, is, as considered the dolor more of them, in these
Starting point is 00:38:47 these are in these scriptures, because literally all his muscles, so they transform. But for the transformation,
Starting point is 00:38:53 I mean, it's a, and it conveys much a lot of, so, so, so,
Starting point is 00:38:59 it's a interesting, I'd be interesting, to know what you think to the audience, of this,
Starting point is 00:39:03 uh, uh, so, I mean, I could be it could be, I'm, I don't
Starting point is 00:39:07 we have the absolute. I want to tell another story. This story has a number super classic the Brouja of the rancho. This Brouca no is like the Bruchy that probably probably we're almost familiarized. It
Starting point is 00:39:23 more acercated, or better, it's the Brueha Plowell Pucci. For those who are not in Mexico, the Brueha Tlauil Pucci, is the Brouca, that is Oriunda of Mexico. A Brouca sinister. A woman, and
Starting point is 00:39:38 I'll say, yes, a woman that has been the knowledge and has heredado all through their line sanguina with his ancestors. Yeah, they
Starting point is 00:39:49 in the magic in the blood. These women, sullen have faculties super-interess and at the same time, incredible, because the history
Starting point is 00:40:00 us mark that has the capacity to disrending parts of their body and terminate in boles of fire.
Starting point is 00:40:08 So, it's for, well, go in the little people of
Starting point is 00:40:12 young, infantes, and be their liquid vital and to be that form. They can
Starting point is 00:40:18 optar forms very classical like of the nahualism is in the list of
Starting point is 00:40:26 the list of things that they can do. And this history not does
Starting point is 00:40:30 directly to our Segedor. It's a abuel but it's
Starting point is 00:40:37 his-abuel is an history of the year 144 that was in Kosko Matepec
Starting point is 00:40:45 Veracru very very well within of the ranks where we
Starting point is 00:40:52 are we in this zone it was a a, we're a
Starting point is 00:40:59 where they were there were some many he said he's his abuel, in
Starting point is 00:41:04 his his his uncle his father, he was he went very
Starting point is 00:41:08 very with his father, his father, the name of Dr.
Starting point is 00:41:14 he was after the time to work the time, fiatte how were the
Starting point is 00:41:19 old old years, in the then he was in the once in once in once
Starting point is 00:41:21 years terminated to he had to get a man, a coffeeito
Starting point is 00:41:26 and a one to say, he said that the people that the people
Starting point is 00:41:31 in the In some ranches, when you when you listen a night of
Starting point is 00:41:36 the night, it's it could have many significant the campana of the
Starting point is 00:41:41 church. That possibly someone of the rancho or of the
Starting point is 00:41:45 people perceo or that is like a thing of the time of
Starting point is 00:41:51 so it's so it with many in many many
Starting point is 00:41:54 in some people and many in this had a
Starting point is 00:41:59 significant similar. It says that in this in this place
Starting point is 00:42:02 there there was a thing very similar to the
Starting point is 00:42:06 one of some that in a in a last of
Starting point is 00:42:10 six months in this people had disappeared three
Starting point is 00:42:16 babies the first he occurred a mother a
Starting point is 00:42:21 mother that he a person and he he
Starting point is 00:42:24 he he got with his solo, he was up
Starting point is 00:42:30 he went to go to go to go to get a same, simply one day
Starting point is 00:42:34 he went and his he was in the room. To come the
Starting point is 00:42:39 and he starts all the people to look to what is going that's
Starting point is 00:42:46 disappeared the man disappeared and something too and much
Starting point is 00:42:53 we're not used that the people of not very this. So, that
Starting point is 00:42:57 a person privy to their liberty to a infante. So,
Starting point is 00:43:03 in the people there was a woman a woman biuda that
Starting point is 00:43:08 was a outside of the people. He said that before to get
Starting point is 00:43:13 to a house, there had much malleza or like
Starting point is 00:43:16 that there was a lot. It was a woman like a
Starting point is 00:43:20 50 to 60 years. Vyud all the time solitaria no
Starting point is 00:43:24 about and was of your house. Solomite he a certain
Starting point is 00:43:30 hours of the day and he regressable. Nobody had much of it. There's
Starting point is 00:43:37 you know, no, no it's a little who starts to say, that's
Starting point is 00:43:40 a and this and the other. But when the day, we're
Starting point is 00:43:45 to call so, the people the people and the people like to
Starting point is 00:43:58 vigilar and tomorrow to the family of Don Pedro and tomorrow to Don Juan and
Starting point is 00:44:03 etc. In these rounds where the people the people the people,
Starting point is 00:44:09 they called much the attention to get to the house to
Starting point is 00:44:13 and it's where there there there's there in the nights it was
Starting point is 00:44:20 in the long as when there like a fogata and of first that
Starting point is 00:44:24 that fogata started to up to to move, to up to up to
Starting point is 00:44:29 get to even, even, we're to know a globo of can't
Starting point is 00:44:32 and he'd be the fire and it and the people to say
Starting point is 00:44:38 is that that woman is she she she. Yeah started the
Starting point is 00:44:42 accusations at those three months to disappear another
Starting point is 00:44:47 man in this occasion to a one a one
Starting point is 00:44:51 both even the two knew that they had a baby recently they were
Starting point is 00:44:57 they're not they're not just the little but in
Starting point is 00:45:02 a moment he had to put to the mom and the father
Starting point is 00:45:06 also and what what was was they were
Starting point is 00:45:10 seconds they they a a lot in a
Starting point is 00:45:16 car in the only they're like a and he started the talker of
Starting point is 00:45:25 campanas and all the people so that's what's going that's they're in a woman
Starting point is 00:45:31 to do you and the people molest how is possible that it's possible that
Starting point is 00:45:37 all the people was very molest he got the third time
Starting point is 00:45:42 in this third time is where the abel and the his
Starting point is 00:45:46 abel of our second are involved said that the
Starting point is 00:45:52 The abuel of 11 years was lavando the car when when he gets a person of the
Starting point is 00:45:56 people. But so he's he's he's about the don't say,
Starting point is 00:46:00 I'm going to let me say the word that I'm putting here
Starting point is 00:46:05 we're going to let's let's let's that but what's
Starting point is 00:46:10 what's he's he's he's he he he says he's his
Starting point is 00:46:16 abel don't he's he's he's there to go to
Starting point is 00:46:21 Doña Rita, they want lynchar. No, because, because they've got to robar
Starting point is 00:46:27 a other baby and the people yeah is enoged and is molest and they're
Starting point is 00:46:33 you know, the worst. He says that he does it does his things, Don Ceperino.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Donceferino is a man very a man very very honest, but over all a man
Starting point is 00:46:44 very just, very mediator. The people the people was because he always always He used to get to
Starting point is 00:46:50 a few without without, I mean, to recurried to the violence, to these
Starting point is 00:46:54 acts that some are very extremists of the use of use and customs that even to do you
Starting point is 00:46:59 continue to manage and he went to go, the when he was in the house of
Starting point is 00:47:03 Dr. Rita, he saw, he went to be to go to palos, even with
Starting point is 00:47:08 a lot of things, machetes and all all of the house of the house of the
Starting point is 00:47:14 and they were to get to get to get to say, Pinch Bruch, and They started,
Starting point is 00:47:19 and they're And they're And it's And then Let's say Retirensia in my house,
Starting point is 00:47:26 I'm not I'm I don't have a nobody No, that no I see what?
Starting point is 00:47:31 Resulta one of the the people of those who were of the
Starting point is 00:47:34 custoders had seen one before that this woman had
Starting point is 00:47:39 had had said he was I said that I saw
Starting point is 00:47:44 of some very extra. Like, like, it's like to be in the
Starting point is 00:47:50 techo, like, like, like, like, it's like, he's going to
Starting point is 00:47:55 to go to his house other way, but he had like a costal. And the costal,
Starting point is 00:48:00 and like, and it was, like, it was, it was, that when he said,
Starting point is 00:48:05 he said, this be seen, he's, and is, that this this woman had a
Starting point is 00:48:12 ability, that nobody the could get a those abilities overhumanas. So this
Starting point is 00:48:20 same man then he he'll listen to the campana that they had beenroba and then so
Starting point is 00:48:28 he had said so the whole the people was he was furious and the people and the people
Starting point is 00:48:32 yeah I wanted to do the he's he's he's he's that
Starting point is 00:48:37 he has that you have to do the thing and it's where I
Starting point is 00:48:42 don't want to pass a tragedy the In fact, you
Starting point is 00:48:45 have been about the topiles, to the we're going to say, to the
Starting point is 00:48:48 police of the people, but but we're not they're going to
Starting point is 00:48:53 do you, we're to do a lot. Dej. Let's that one of their
Starting point is 00:48:58 house, not we don't have you don't have nothing. For that you
Starting point is 00:49:03 don't happen. I want to do you also that you understand that you're not that you
Starting point is 00:49:09 said that said that the woman she said that he said okay
Starting point is 00:49:14 passen, but only three persons. Okay, entran three people, between them the vis-avuel
Starting point is 00:49:22 Don Ceperino and he he says, hey, he says to the other, no destroy
Starting point is 00:49:27 nothing, or so, well, just, they're, and so, the house was very
Starting point is 00:49:33 little, it was a house of adobe, Palma, only only had a cartito,
Starting point is 00:49:37 his camera to his camera to the other nothing, nothing and they
Starting point is 00:49:43 say, and they say, Pueblo. No, well, it's that no, no. And the other says, is that I, I see, that she's, that I'm going to see what, and I said, and I said, I don't know, I said, I don't have a baby. For favor, yeah, biann's in my house. When in that, they're in the yant, a boy. Oh,
Starting point is 00:50:03 and in that moment, like, everyone, like, they're going to, the yankton not came of his house. Rode
Starting point is 00:50:12 in the house and the house there's a about a three
Starting point is 00:50:18 meters and the the little was was a
Starting point is 00:50:23 a and the and the and the sound of the the
Starting point is 00:50:28 sound of the costal there was there was in
Starting point is 00:50:32 that moment rapidly a person sub the tree
Starting point is 00:50:35 a Crepa, corte with the machete, agar the ball.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Abre and he was a baby there. He was the child
Starting point is 00:50:45 of the matrimon that had had been their baby. In
Starting point is 00:50:50 that moment he was all the people said Don, Deferino he
Starting point is 00:50:56 kept call he he said he had robbed. He
Starting point is 00:51:00 had he had hidden not in the house on
Starting point is 00:51:03 an arbor there amarred there the people infurecio
Starting point is 00:51:08 and infurecio insegated in their own their own their own fire and they
Starting point is 00:51:17 started to rocear liquid flammable what describes Don Seferino
Starting point is 00:51:25 and what he's his his his son his his is that this
Starting point is 00:51:30 woman was was in his house not made escape.
Starting point is 00:51:35 It was parada between yams. Of a time when it's saying
Starting point is 00:51:42 he said he said a grita but grittable like a animal and
Starting point is 00:51:48 between the grittos they'd hear that he started to maldecy to
Starting point is 00:51:53 start to all the people all the rancho the of
Starting point is 00:51:58 the time pass the and it Well, you have made senises.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Until the day of today, that property, that property that's in Veracruz, that is,
Starting point is 00:52:12 that's in Kosko, Matepeg, Kostomatepeg, nobody, today, today, today,
Starting point is 00:52:18 has been, nobody has been only a family has come, and for extra reasons
Starting point is 00:52:25 were. It's far here. It's a rare, the, well, no, authority,
Starting point is 00:52:34 never he's he's that I'm going to say something, I'm very
Starting point is 00:52:38 very delicate. But a other the crimes more important also in ranches.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Yeah. Nobody's never. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. And this
Starting point is 00:52:50 was the story of how they were a alive a a a brao.
Starting point is 00:52:55 It's a story. It's very big a I don't Ceperino
Starting point is 00:53:01 that was according the Abuel, the son's the son of the
Starting point is 00:53:06 woman, he discovered that the person, I know, or not he a bruja or not
Starting point is 00:53:11 a bruja or simply he did it. They were a crancher, man. Oh, fidate
Starting point is 00:53:16 that I have a similar to that I want to let me want to to get
Starting point is 00:53:21 to go to do it. Uh, is it is very very very strong, it's
Starting point is 00:53:24 quite, but what what you do you think of this, brother? It's is very
Starting point is 00:53:29 very very and, and that type of history are quite
Starting point is 00:53:32 commones especially in our people who are very solitarious of the few people
Starting point is 00:53:37 and how you say the questions of osos and customs they're they're their methods
Starting point is 00:53:42 of justice a quite, quite extremes yeah always they're
Starting point is 00:53:49 until the fecha to the time to the time I don't say there
Starting point is 00:53:54 people they receive them hermosys but there certain places where the
Starting point is 00:53:58 authorities and what I have said abutably there's no
Starting point is 00:54:02 authority as justice as we know we the same the same the same
Starting point is 00:54:08 so have been occasions where unfortunately not so they're
Starting point is 00:54:14 not as things and people innocent and people have costed I think I
Starting point is 00:54:21 want to continue with a story a little more more
Starting point is 00:54:24 more a that has that has to be also that has there
Starting point is 00:54:29 the area where I live, I think that that's antecedent and you have done in some
Starting point is 00:54:33 of the collaborations that I'm in the part of the area was a area cristera,
Starting point is 00:54:39 one where there was a conflict armado for the years 20s and there
Starting point is 00:54:44 there many many stories about tesoros about or in coves
Starting point is 00:54:50 enterado or so many histories and this is one of those and this is
Starting point is 00:54:57 there there very important that a ferrocarrill that was over the zone
Starting point is 00:55:03 of the barca halisco was bolted by part of the cristeros
Starting point is 00:55:09 lamentably falle much people this cargament of the
Starting point is 00:55:14 over was disfrasated that's the word disfrasated of
Starting point is 00:55:18 a train passenger um volk they're that many people
Starting point is 00:55:24 fell and much ore so they He said that that that's the
Starting point is 00:55:31 area where I know I'm Keshawayo Hikilpan from from Samora to the
Starting point is 00:55:37 area to the area and there was a person that I had a interesting that is
Starting point is 00:55:43 of Cotija that he said that he said in that incident that was what were
Starting point is 00:55:51 what did the people when obtained resources that the government and they
Starting point is 00:55:57 they were they were they were they But they were diriged for ecclesiastical They were
Starting point is 00:56:02 They were They said Padro that said Padre, what we're going to do? Well, well,
Starting point is 00:56:08 we're going to in a place in this coveva and the house of Falano of and et cetera.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Oh, then then the abel of this man of this man of the
Starting point is 00:56:17 Franciscos because so his abuel or his papah he, he's
Starting point is 00:56:21 called Francisco. Nistokayos. Pustokios Tuyus. They used in a area of
Starting point is 00:56:27 Cotica that says that for those times the the house still intact
Starting point is 00:56:33 like a made of adobe double techo of teja a house very beautiful
Starting point is 00:56:40 and after the day still being that and he has a great
Starting point is 00:56:44 beautiful of his abuel his his always he said my
Starting point is 00:56:48 my I was I was christero I I participated
Starting point is 00:56:52 in this I know where our but in this moment
Starting point is 00:56:55 not we don't we we can't They were quite
Starting point is 00:56:58 humiless and he said, but in some moment this gold will be
Starting point is 00:57:03 to be to be to be to be to be to say. And it was the
Starting point is 00:57:08 history constant of all the nights so that he said oh, my
Starting point is 00:57:14 boyo yeah not not me tell it's the but what's
Starting point is 00:57:18 there there is a moment in the man fall yes the he's
Starting point is 00:57:22 and that that class of the They've goted as a as a very
Starting point is 00:57:27 a treasure. Sure. Passed the years. Passed the
Starting point is 00:57:33 years. And there stories about interesting about certain some
Starting point is 00:57:36 some of the other the mythos that was that
Starting point is 00:57:41 when they were that when they were to the area to the
Starting point is 00:57:45 area to the center of the city that some
Starting point is 00:57:48 alba some these these these these these these
Starting point is 00:57:52 these these of in centen centenarios. But he shared
Starting point is 00:57:58 another that is an impressionate. You know, for those times, I not were a little,
Starting point is 00:58:04 I was a adolescent, we had our carences, I had to work in the camp and I had to
Starting point is 00:58:11 be able to my parents, we're living in that house that my family.
Starting point is 00:58:16 So when they were doing the construction of this way, we were we didn't
Starting point is 00:58:21 form of our house. We had to back to where they had
Starting point is 00:58:25 scarvado to put the cementation of these can't be to get to our house constantly
Starting point is 00:58:32 he was constantly I'm with sombras aterradoras that were much to his abel and the
Starting point is 00:58:38 abelio and the other that was that was that was he was he was
Starting point is 00:58:44 he was he was being a an adolescent no he didn't say absolutely to say
Starting point is 00:58:51 no, they're not say that I'm say that I'm meadoso, but it was constant. Then he started to
Starting point is 00:58:58 see, and he was going to say, yeah it's hour of that we're our deser. Pace the
Starting point is 00:59:06 time and this class of manifestations, is they are still presenting to that this he
Starting point is 00:59:11 had had insomnia. Yeah no could be because always that he had
Starting point is 00:59:16 manifestations where he had a very far aterrower and he said that it was
Starting point is 00:59:21 that they were now in a night this he was not he was the
Starting point is 00:59:31 construction of this community was a center of cotija and he had been
Starting point is 00:59:35 a 50% of approximately and he said that he had got to a few
Starting point is 00:59:40 four fours around where he he he he was he said
Starting point is 00:59:46 that was in this type of I don't know in life. Carinoos, that he
Starting point is 00:59:56 had been that he had told him that he was in the he was he was that he was
Starting point is 01:00:05 I was I went into and he said I'm you know what you know you're but you
Starting point is 01:00:10 got to hear me listen me to listen me we're we're in the world in
Starting point is 01:00:17 the coves and this not you I've said the last the
Starting point is 01:00:23 You have to go at the 3 of the morning, at the cruce between X-Calley, with the main, you have to get to, you have to
Starting point is 01:00:32 scarvard approximately so, so, of distance, and you will be to find with
Starting point is 01:00:38 some of those what, all what you know, you know, you know, X,
Starting point is 01:00:46 X, noche, and no, there's another opportunity. It's our tesor. And when
Starting point is 01:00:54 he's that he and he he's he never to know to know
Starting point is 01:01:01 no manches passed on the days the date still not yet and I know I
Starting point is 01:01:07 know Cotica for the nights for the nights but it's a lot of the the
Starting point is 01:01:13 thing no has much time so I see I do you do that has
Starting point is 01:01:16 approximately a less of 20 years okay okay this
Starting point is 01:01:21 this this man, Francisco, that in actuality is a person adult, he's a
Starting point is 01:01:27 fear, but I'm going to go. He's, he's he's got during the madugada,
Starting point is 01:01:33 he met to the road, that was still still maybe cemented, and he
Starting point is 01:01:37 got to the area he had mentioned. The cruce. The cruce.
Starting point is 01:01:43 And just where this was that was a cross, it said that there was a
Starting point is 01:01:47 kind of a part of the drainage, but that there only in that zone. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:53 So, I mean, it was everything. Perfect, no? When when I start scabar, he's
Starting point is 01:01:58 there's the vassigas. Beia that were people, and this me, so me
Starting point is 01:02:04 passed mention it. Dentro of his his old, he said, he said,
Starting point is 01:02:08 who he'll be a, no you'll be you, I'm going to be back to you,
Starting point is 01:02:13 and nobody to say, then. So, then, so, that were, the cruces
Starting point is 01:02:18 that were They were down to, they were, they were cementing, and they didn't even they'd. Like if not were. Like if no existier. No, man. So, thence, that passed as persons, and he still in the sues, taking the vassigas.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Jamas, he never knew that was what were in the basins, because they were, obviously, jenas of tierra, and some of, you know, very fragile, and all of them started to get in some carretillas. When he gets all over to the house where, where he'd vivia,
Starting point is 01:02:46 you know that they were pure centenarios. And here is where
Starting point is 01:02:51 comes the part that I go, I'm we know, we say, you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:59 I'm saying, you, in my family, both my family as,
Starting point is 01:03:03 the rest of people that are that are my family, we're people
Starting point is 01:03:09 um, we're we're we're we're we're we, we're
Starting point is 01:03:15 I did that all what was there was the recommendation of my parents was that me went to
Starting point is 01:03:23 the United so he went to the United in some and I know how he did
Starting point is 01:03:30 with the cargamements of the but there is where he says in the
Starting point is 01:03:35 actuality I'm I'm of the family the only that has the
Starting point is 01:03:41 things of taqueries of art artisanies, of diverses but all that money
Starting point is 01:03:48 with the money with he's got to make of those cargements of the that could
Starting point is 01:03:54 find thanks to his abel. Oh, man, so. So, so,
Starting point is 01:03:58 so, this story is 100 real. 100 real. And many of the
Starting point is 01:04:04 mythos that that so, I think that they have mentioned constantly there,
Starting point is 01:04:08 is that the So, it's that when they were doing those
Starting point is 01:04:12 camions Paco, some of the albañis that were that that's
Starting point is 01:04:18 that way that's that's like a two a half kilometer approximately
Starting point is 01:04:22 many, many they're to the construction and they said no,
Starting point is 01:04:27 well, then they're not, no. Much of the mythos
Starting point is 01:04:30 were that were that they were they were they're they're they're
Starting point is 01:04:36 they they're that Well, no. A good. What story that's an extraordinary.
Starting point is 01:04:41 And I'm doing this, I don't I've said before. I don't see if to you
Starting point is 01:04:45 have occurred. I'm in the bandeja of messages I've got many messages that I say,
Starting point is 01:04:53 Paco, help me to get a car a thing. And, I mean,
Starting point is 01:04:59 is that, I mean, there, I'm, there's so, and what you do you want
Starting point is 01:05:03 to be so, and as physical. Fisic, of the concentration of gas,
Starting point is 01:05:07 Yeah, so. Tantas things that could have. So, a sometimes people
Starting point is 01:05:11 see in this type of situations and of objects, they're like they're like they're
Starting point is 01:05:17 like they're and they're probably But if it's, I go, here, also in this area of the Kuenka, the
Starting point is 01:05:43 Papua Papan, there's many people that used in the years of the revolution and all this to
Starting point is 01:05:52 guard, because there were many many many times. There are stories of people and ranches,
Starting point is 01:05:59 precisely, which one that's a much time, where they discovered a woman, because they were
Starting point is 01:06:04 precisely these coronas of the residents of that they'd their
Starting point is 01:06:08 because precisely the years of the revolution was a very chaotic everything.
Starting point is 01:06:14 There's there are the people people who were all the all the so they
Starting point is 01:06:18 to go to go to the other they were they're they're they're where the
Starting point is 01:06:25 people prefer to all, let's all his, all his things in basiages
Starting point is 01:06:31 and enterlars but so what interesting Bronota that good
Starting point is 01:06:35 story, I, me, I, most much I want to talk
Starting point is 01:06:38 a last story titled the rancho that I'm a
Starting point is 01:06:43 thing, this this he occurred to a man a
Starting point is 01:06:47 man, and Don Clement, and is a person of the
Starting point is 01:06:51 third age, this he occurred in the year 2001
Starting point is 01:06:54 here in Mexico. Context Don Clement is a name that
Starting point is 01:06:59 just me he doesn't very in clear, never
Starting point is 01:07:03 never he believed in stories of terror or a question and he said that that's
Starting point is 01:07:09 no existia and for him what all the time he gave a or let him
Starting point is 01:07:14 he had alerta because were questions more real in the carterer the
Starting point is 01:07:19 the fact to have an accident of that they assault things so things so
Starting point is 01:07:25 so he he he was he's the part north of the country
Starting point is 01:07:30 and he knows very well the republic he he
Starting point is 01:07:32 said that he recorrived for more of 20 years all the carreteras practically or the grand majority and in
Starting point is 01:07:40 his trailer cargament of different types. So, here in this business, he says,
Starting point is 01:07:47 he says of spantos because so so he know some in some parts. No,
Starting point is 01:07:51 but the spantos, no, it's about experiences that the people live, and say,
Starting point is 01:07:57 but I never create in nothing, until that gets the day where he
Starting point is 01:08:02 took to experiment to experimented to other level. He said he precisely he had
Starting point is 01:08:07 had started out of the city to Hermosillo and
Starting point is 01:08:12 was a route that he he he was going to a
Starting point is 01:08:16 Malayuka and he said he was all very normal and he said
Starting point is 01:08:22 they were like that of 7, 8 yeah was he was
Starting point is 01:08:26 also when de Pronto and it was to get a
Starting point is 01:08:30 gawr a water a storm it was a storm and it's they're
Starting point is 01:08:34 of those that the the water it's it's it's like it and it
Starting point is 01:08:40 and it was able to see he was the carter and it was very
Starting point is 01:08:45 very so so then I had a cargement not
Starting point is 01:08:49 so medium and especially but it's but it I
Starting point is 01:08:53 cost much much and in this moment it
Starting point is 01:08:56 was there I live in the earth because any a vehicle no
Starting point is 01:09:00 there was no way no there's not a thing that was being more
Starting point is 01:09:06 and I'm and I'm I'm see, I'm could be a lettererer that never
Starting point is 01:09:11 had seen this letterer and that was able and that
Starting point is 01:09:17 ranch the silence five five kilometers and I said
Starting point is 01:09:22 well I never had seen that I'm I think to
Starting point is 01:09:25 go to I'll buy something in a tentita and I hope that the water and I'm
Starting point is 01:09:31 saying passing the 5 kilometers see a an entry and see an entry
Starting point is 01:09:40 that was horrible were almost 15 minutes where no
Starting point is 01:09:45 there was and all I just only I saw a
Starting point is 01:09:50 porton of these metal and those metalical The letterer that said the name of the rancho, the silence,
Starting point is 01:10:00 I left, I there the camion, me backed, all obscure. Only, there was a house, like, of madera, a potrero, vacill, no, there was nothing. And in that moment, I saw that a woman. A woman, like,
Starting point is 01:10:18 of some 40, 50 years. He had a vestido rojo. It was me so much strange, and I said, I never had seen this place. And he asked if there was, no,
Starting point is 01:10:30 I don't know, I said, I said, and I said, me does permission to pass to do you
Starting point is 01:10:36 do so do you, passal. He said, it's made very rare to the, no
Starting point is 01:10:41 I see, I mean, I was something that he was a normal. He said,
Starting point is 01:10:47 I was going to pass to his side and I felt like a kind of
Starting point is 01:10:50 a very in that you she's that the woman says
Starting point is 01:10:56 this night today to take to get to get to get the
Starting point is 01:11:03 and he got a question that he was to where was stop
Starting point is 01:11:10 do you know how fast you were going I'm going to have to write you a ticket
Starting point is 01:11:14 to my new movie The Naked gun Liam Liam Nissan buy your tickets
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Starting point is 01:11:23 now And in that moment that he started to look to look at detail
Starting point is 01:11:27 all around he said that he he's to experiment something that's very
Starting point is 01:11:34 strange in the earth there in the potrero I began
Starting point is 01:11:39 to be wos cranios gus human and I'm to
Starting point is 01:11:46 hear to hear and shantos in the house where I went
Starting point is 01:11:49 to an air super frio a scalof frio that
Starting point is 01:11:53 recorried to my back. I said, I knew in that moment that I'm to get me
Starting point is 01:11:59 to the place. I know, I know, the presentiment of you have to go to get to
Starting point is 01:12:05 that something. In that, he said, I'm a motor. He's a carionette a black
Starting point is 01:12:12 and says they're three people. Three persons that had these vestimentes
Starting point is 01:12:19 like, botas, like camisas, like people of rancho, but they're pastamontains pustos. And these
Starting point is 01:12:29 people, when they were, they said in the phrase, yeah, he goes, the of this lunar. Dice, like, they're, like, they're like, they're behind him, and in
Starting point is 01:12:39 that moment, says, I'd go to the desert. Dejee my carmion, I did all, and me I ranke to
Starting point is 01:12:45 get to like, I, and I said, no, so I'm so I, I, I,
Starting point is 01:12:49 I, I, because they're light, because they're like they're behind me. He said,
Starting point is 01:12:53 I got to other potrero. I got to another potrero and there had animals, vacas and just
Starting point is 01:13:01 I got in the abrevadero that is where the animals don't know their water. There me kept,
Starting point is 01:13:08 he said, without making me, without nothing. He said that he was there
Starting point is 01:13:13 was still that he came the day the day the day the next,
Starting point is 01:13:18 with anger, with the of all, of all, brother.
Starting point is 01:13:24 He said that he started to be to be to be he still from the
Starting point is 01:13:30 abrevado, he's at he said, and he was going, and he was getting
Starting point is 01:13:36 more to a casetta where he says all socio desidratado
Starting point is 01:13:43 or malolient saying you know to say I'm to do you get to
Starting point is 01:13:48 a caset I asked I used there to the authorities he went how are
Starting point is 01:13:56 these in this in those federaries of and I went to the report
Starting point is 01:14:00 said of my carmion or so the report of robo I don't I don't
Starting point is 01:14:05 I was I didn't I was I was I was nobody me he knew
Starting point is 01:14:09 nobody me me creio nobody me I'm what was what me
Starting point is 01:14:15 did the authority when I went the report When I started to write
Starting point is 01:14:21 the rancho what I said that the man was writing and he he said
Starting point is 01:14:29 another again and the what? Nothing yeah we've had been
Starting point is 01:14:35 this type of reportes the same rancho same letterer the problem
Starting point is 01:14:42 is that that that rancho no exist how no that
Starting point is 01:14:48 rancho no there's no there's there's no way at least here
Starting point is 01:14:52 no no there's no there's but there report
Starting point is 01:14:58 of other many people that say have been there
Starting point is 01:15:01 and that have never have to recover this this
Starting point is 01:15:06 passed in the year 2001 and this man that is
Starting point is 01:15:10 a person don't plenty and he doesn't what has
Starting point is 01:15:14 happened I don't where I'm who was the woman I don't know who are those
Starting point is 01:15:18 And I know of what I saved Because he says I feel that I'm not Teller that Who's where I'm gonna
Starting point is 01:15:29 For that's The history of The rancho That's where In It's where? It's not He's
Starting point is 01:15:36 For those Who know For those who know In the area Passing Samalajuka Samalajuka He was
Starting point is 01:15:44 Hevaeva to leave a cargament. So, he said there was where the the
Starting point is 01:15:50 year he doesn't know. And he is a okay, he he's equivocal. Yes,
Starting point is 01:15:56 he desvied to the rancho precisely video letterer but yeah then I
Starting point is 01:16:00 didn't know where I don't know, I don't know that part of I don't of Mexico
Starting point is 01:16:05 the fact I'm I'm in the maps if it's a zone like
Starting point is 01:16:10 desertica very desertica but who can know where where
Starting point is 01:16:14 was this man? Yes, are stories that's quite impressive and think that's very similar
Starting point is 01:16:20 to the I'm going to tell you okay nothing more that's to be a little
Starting point is 01:16:25 more with the questions delinquentiales as they know in many of the people especially
Starting point is 01:16:30 people who are very very solitarious or that not have many people I'm not to visit some
Starting point is 01:16:38 in the area of Michiacan literally is a people's a phantasm so that
Starting point is 01:16:43 thanks to the crime. The people end up to get into the
Starting point is 01:16:48 exaner or they're to be to do you go to and they're controlled by the crime
Starting point is 01:16:53 a person a person that's a man and this I think you're you're going
Starting point is 01:16:58 to get identified with this he said he's the Victoria Tamalipas
Starting point is 01:17:05 I don't I remember if is that is the area where he
Starting point is 01:17:08 is a where he no I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't But he lived
Starting point is 01:17:14 a certain to a one area that's called the that's a country.
Starting point is 01:17:19 I don't know the but he's like a person who this people had passed for the
Starting point is 01:17:24 same situations like these people who the people where the crime and has their conflicts in these
Starting point is 01:17:30 spaces, the people are going and many of them they're they're like a
Starting point is 01:17:37 person we're like alliscentes and as creators of content
Starting point is 01:17:42 imagineate we're doing we're doing in the creation of the content and he liked much to do the
Starting point is 01:17:52 exploration he had said you know you know if you once you go to do you
Starting point is 01:17:59 don't manches you you're going to bring a content but content because because you
Starting point is 01:18:05 you're going to get to get to the malos you're going to the place where they
Starting point is 01:18:10 have ultimated to people there There are zones that are solitaries, but controlled
Starting point is 01:18:16 so they're a idea and said you know I'm going to say you know I'm going to solo he
Starting point is 01:18:28 he he's he said by maybe of some rumours that there a house
Starting point is 01:18:33 that was a type of house of security in the casas in these they're
Starting point is 01:18:37 they're they're there are in contra of their that that they
Starting point is 01:18:43 they're doing things etc etc and to this person
Starting point is 01:18:47 to David to to start not they not the equipment
Starting point is 01:18:52 and imagine and imagine that the recordings was with
Starting point is 01:18:56 a telephone of the one of the first they
Starting point is 01:19:00 had 30 minutes for gravation and he was with
Starting point is 01:19:04 his explorations and he And he was that telephone. That to move to that
Starting point is 01:19:14 one of the motorcycle that was in a motorcycle that when he came to the area when there
Starting point is 01:19:22 there were reasons there were some but that these people never said they said
Starting point is 01:19:28 they said passale passel passel but no they were with nothing that
Starting point is 01:19:31 had to have to be with those ambience for so so that they can get to
Starting point is 01:19:38 a zone where there different these casas and that was supposed house of security.
Starting point is 01:19:44 All getting to this said that there was in the area of the fachada
Starting point is 01:19:48 a much impacts. That for to start if one observe that I'd say alert,
Starting point is 01:19:54 right? Sure. So, it's the crystals rotos, graffiti for all
Starting point is 01:19:59 parts and he gets to a one that was a lot oldient that olia,
Starting point is 01:20:05 to do a putrefaction. When When he gets that zone and he was grabbing, he says that in him, he generates a fear like never in the life. And that when
Starting point is 01:20:17 was just the mark of that door, was where he said, it was a very bad idea to have been. Just when he thinks of that, he gets a a little bit in the
Starting point is 01:20:29 head and no knows what happened. When he getspired, he does of that he
Starting point is 01:20:38 was in a place that was very different he
Starting point is 01:20:42 was maniatated obviously he was a lot of the
Starting point is 01:20:47 but around there there had more people there
Starting point is 01:20:51 were so when observe all these people that
Starting point is 01:20:56 were in the same characteristics and even even some
Starting point is 01:21:00 some people that there was a one there
Starting point is 01:21:04 and so and there was the dead of fear he thought he's the poor
Starting point is 01:21:11 obviously sure yeah I'm got to me they're they're going to
Starting point is 01:21:17 be going to do they then then they were incapuched that were with their dispositions
Starting point is 01:21:24 and they they were they're them aggrinted they said that he had had been
Starting point is 01:21:28 in his proper pantalones horrible horrible According to his testimony of David, he still seeing being
Starting point is 01:21:37 his telephone that was on the side of him always he sated in any moment he moved and he
Starting point is 01:21:43 had been and he said he said a month a month approximately in those conditions
Starting point is 01:21:51 no manches more or less so then so that these people didn't even they were
Starting point is 01:21:56 they'd they'd have been water and this data is very interesting
Starting point is 01:22:01 It says that in a occasion that a person was to medentarl us it was not it was like a like a passamontaine it was like a ha
Starting point is 01:22:12 so he got the pao and see that the characteristics of this person not were like of a person see them rare as
Starting point is 01:22:19 extranais and the and the the odor still being rather rather and feo
Starting point is 01:22:24 a putrefaction to liquid vital etc in certain moment when this
Starting point is 01:22:32 macho he was there there there didn't do you
Starting point is 01:22:37 say that he's that's the plegaria more more than
Starting point is 01:22:41 in connection with God that's that that was where he said
Starting point is 01:22:45 God my if you you you you're that
Starting point is 01:22:49 no me do it that that that that that's
Starting point is 01:22:53 for favor help me if not if no if
Starting point is 01:22:56 I don't get to that that that for
Starting point is 01:22:59 favor, but yeah, I don't want to suffer. It's doorme.
Starting point is 01:23:04 When she can't, it's in that that's malolient, socia,
Starting point is 01:23:11 grafiteada, and he does count of that no had passed
Starting point is 01:23:17 more than the moment in the moment in that received
Starting point is 01:23:21 the case. So, it desmayo. But where is the part
Starting point is 01:23:25 interesting? If you received the It was a goal. For what reason?
Starting point is 01:23:31 Because he sentia that the liquid he was out of a side of the o'reja.
Starting point is 01:23:36 He took and he does a count of that it was a case. When
Starting point is 01:23:42 he was justly assimiland what was what was what was he said in his
Starting point is 01:23:47 gravation in his video of the telephone. It was still
Starting point is 01:23:52 grabbing the telephone when he gets well that he revised time
Starting point is 01:23:58 after the telephone that's the telephone that's a major a camera and he
Starting point is 01:24:07 says go to get to here no man's and then the
Starting point is 01:24:13 telephone still after that he's he's he's he's obviously
Starting point is 01:24:17 obviously after after after having received well of having passed
Starting point is 01:24:21 all that was I got my telephone and I'm going to go
Starting point is 01:24:28 to here A little time after but yeah he was much time
Starting point is 01:24:31 after he was to investigate that was what was what had been a house
Starting point is 01:24:40 a house of security but that lamentably in this
Starting point is 01:24:43 place had had succeeded many so there there
Starting point is 01:24:48 there there of his Voluntary in that space that they were in
Starting point is 01:25:01 those cartels contours or so you can't you imagine what type of the
Starting point is 01:25:07 place? This this man he said I know what was what me
Starting point is 01:25:12 so some some people interprets that I know I
Starting point is 01:25:16 I don't a other plan and I did what they were
Starting point is 01:25:22 living in a certain but no know what think.
Starting point is 01:25:26 And he's a part of that moment no me never want to
Starting point is 01:25:31 never to create to create any any of content. God, me,
Starting point is 01:25:35 is that I don't me, I don't want to sound like a person very
Starting point is 01:25:41 known that I said, that I know, I do do you do exploration
Starting point is 01:25:45 also in content exclusive on the explorations but if it's one of
Starting point is 01:25:50 the great risk because you get to places that
Starting point is 01:25:53 are concurred that are abandoned that nobody are, they're in those new are there's
Starting point is 01:25:58 type of people who they're doing to get to call them but I'm but I know it's like
Starting point is 01:26:03 an advertency like of even even that's even even that even though we're we know
Starting point is 01:26:08 when we went to when we're in the Keter of Keretaro Cereto Certero So that
Starting point is 01:26:14 when we were there who was the who said there's people there there are there
Starting point is 01:26:19 and that we're not we're not because the things is more. It's more
Starting point is 01:26:24 more. Yeah, there's there. There's there. There's, there's
Starting point is 01:26:26 there. There's that you're about the place that's doing the exploration, no.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Yeah, you're talking of other things. Yeah, and it's a good episode.
Starting point is 01:26:37 We've got to have been about. How did it? Very, very, very comod. A little
Starting point is 01:26:41 different to the other the ways pastas, but even very, very common. Oh,
Starting point is 01:26:47 yeah, thanks, NASA, for this super episode. I mean, me me
Starting point is 01:26:50 to talk to talk, Still, we need to grab the next episode that family if they liked stories of ranchos in content
Starting point is 01:26:59 exclusive, we we're going because there are the more than the more we don't know we can't talk.
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