EXTRA ANORMAL - Historias Paranormales de N@RC0$: Rituales Siniestros por PODER

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

En este escalofriante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias se une a Fermex del ‪@podcast.criminalmente‬ para adentrarse en el oscuro y misterioso mundo de los n@rc0$ desde una perspectiva paranormal.Descubre relatos inquietantes donde el crim3n 0rganizad0 se entrelaza con lo sobrenatural:Maldiciones y presencias: Encuentros inexplicables que han marcado la historia de los [e-mail] inframundo paranormal: Secretos y leyendas que revelan un lado oculto del poder y la vi0lenci@.Más allá del crimen: Historias que desafían la realidad y ponen en duda lo que creemos saber sobre el mundo del n@rc0.¿Estás listo para descubrir el lado paranormal del crimen? ¡Dale play y acompáñanos en este viaje aterrador!Canal de mi invitado: ‪@podcast.criminalmente‬

And they say and they supplican to the dubi that they're that they're Jesus he says if no you do do you

do you we're going to go to get to the infirno when you get to do you're

to dovi in shock and with fear he spar and he and he he's

the two amtes in the closet well he says that I'm he's

these these rituals that were that were that human, that

that had abusers and an infinite of things atroces that were with the

people. The am I mean with all the innocentsia and he does the medication,

this, well, well, when the friend's when the friend is, you can't

get to you can't get to all we're all we're all we all we don't say

he he said that they're precisely for this type of protection I said

that those that they were with the people, those sacrifices of the

same were for him and for all the team and he said,

this he said, this us liberate and us invisible to the eyes to the policeia.

How much. What? What? What What How are Welcome to a podcast

Extra Anormal. My name is Bakuarias, and I'm very happy to be here with all of you. Family, I do mention

something that we try us, is of those capitals very special without to make none.

And I'm going to mention because constantly we're talking about things very turbyas. I mean

the content of extraanormal not is a content for children and not it's a content where

we'll talk about that things that are so very very turvies.

But in this occasion we're going to implement or we're going to let's a little

of what is living out of talking of experiences paranormal that occur in the

these, I don't how call them, these groups, and are things that

are things that are many of people in the actuality. And for this episode,

me complac present to a person very special that is the first time that's

with us and me put very very Well, very good nights, very good

good times. Well, I'm happy to be here with you guys, happy to start here with you and I'm

imagine I never never to start in this set, grab our really is that I'm very content. Thank you. Thank you.

For the people who are the first for the first of, I know that much people know that you know

some people like there I'd like there mano that you presentes and your reds,

for favor. Yes, well, I'm well, I'm know Fernex, me know fermex,

me know Fermex, and I I'm host of a channel that is called Criminally. In this channel we have two sections. The first is a podcast

where I have different invitators and where they share stories precisely of things criminales. And the other

segment is a blog where I tell the first to end the life of some person who is related to

the crime from his infancy to his condens or his deces according. Some stories

very interesting, are stories very very I'm sure that you're going to like.

We're like on Spotify, in YouTube, on Instagram and on Facebook. Perfect, no,

much thanks. There's a family that's normal. You know, that in the description, we'll the link

to the channel of our invitation to go out and also they're going and then know, family,

that before to start, we're always in the first moments, uh, for a family

that's normal that Ikea before to initiate the episode. If you you're You can't listen for Spotify,

also there's an option that says, continue. Pickle there for that you want to be part official of this grand family,

because much people consume the content, but many people can subscribe. So, although it's something so

so you're not your ideas, as a part and be a member official of this grand community. Now,

so, after these of these announcements, a bit, I want to mention something important,

and even also of what I'm really, of what? Mexico, unfortunately has been

a point important of this type of people of those that we're going to talk,

persons who are people, and have passed a chance that have made for ever the

history of our country where they have so sucitado hechos that have done the

media a coverture to really impression for the brutality for the

sanginario that can get to You, what do you think of this? Well, yeah, look, unfortunately, as well you say, Mexico is

plagued of these stories. There are stories of all type. There are stories of criminales that not you can't imagine that are reales, that superan totally the fiction. Any relato that you

can't find of fiction is superated for this type of stories. We have many cases of criminals that have been known at level

world, for what they have done. Okay. So, so it's something horrible,

but this is a reality that has lived and that people like us have dedicated to

some way to document to investigate and to get to the medulla of these cases,

not for justificing but so to try to understand a little the

why did what they did you. Okay. That was to get to that we've

taken some conclusions. We've tried to find the people have

acted in the manner that have acted. And it is surprising.

It's surprising the fact of why there's a pattern that's that's

that's that's all of them I've mentioned in many capitals and this

pattern this pattern is a infancy frustrated, a infancy a trunca full of

violence and of events very feos that live of not so it's very

probably that no existier, a Daniel Arismendi, as we know us, a Juan Abraza, a monster of Istacalco,

etc. So, are people that have lived things very very fervantes and I

don't justify, but they took the way incorrect and they decided

not to runper that it. It's impressive when we're

trying to understand or see how function the mind of a

criminal the reasons that I remember when I'm criminally,

we'll talk that really me surprise much, because are those cases where in the way I was I'm

about I'm of the famous camalions. The person that never you imagine that is capable to

do something that can be in your circle of your circle of your circle familiar, to who

you know, to you to confias a person, to you know you can you know that this

person can be the responsible of a thing that atrox digno of a

film of terror. Now, to this are in the cases that I mention to

that's the same the phenomenon paranormal. Okay. The extraordinary, the

inexplicable, the that, are so are brutal but they're a

lot different or maybe a parallelism inclinated to an fact that

no has been an explanation. The people that Studian

this they've been topado in some point with this actual or

with a case that has a very much and I have been a negative

in a principle of the I've to have an explanation but

when there there there many many many times

not to say more that we don't say but

there something we know that is that influ in

this thing and it's toped with something like? Yes. There are many

stories. There's actually, one of the we're going to talk today, is directly related related to this type of

things that not you can't understand how they're but that's more than the paranormal that are they're going

very crueles in the name of the paranormal. So, so are cases that at final,

when you start to see the history, recopilas the problems, the investigations, you're

you're doing you're how it's what's what's So, no there's

an explanation. No, the same story as a little investigated for people

that was in the moment, no they don't know an explanation. No know what they're

on the part paranormal and they inclinn't obviously for the part criminal,

that is the part that part can't inconclusive because no you know

that canes could have been that mystery or that part paranormal to get

to get to funders with the story as I have a

A case cortito, that I would like to share you. For favor. Because, this story

is partied by a person that obviously the names of these stories were to be changed.

It's a story an anonymous but that lived a person that is part of the family of

an normal podcast. But it is impressive because it's because it's, because it's

all this. We're to start. This is the history of Imelda. Okay. Imelda

is a woman who suffered a actually very very I'm

I'd I'd like a really very traumatic she she's she's

very young mentioned that was the typical much

that was a very very nobiera that he called

the people and she and she living in a public

in a state that today here in Mexico is one of

the most difficult in things in a occasion in a

fiesta when she had 16 years was a a fiesta and in this festival

there were people that were people who had been a cartel when she

was a family with his friends not all the look the

man to a man we're going to put ruben ruben

he was he kept looking and she she was was

he was I was was looking this He corresponds. They're there to be like a coqueteo,

an asercamient. He invites to take a baby. And, and he does that this man,

not more and nothing less that a person that was that he was a car. It was a narco.

When she he said this he gave much more fear, much more because you can

you can't you you think the worst. So she in his relato

says, I, in when he said, he said, I waske

like, I'm to do this. But it was too too because

yeah this man had an interest in her, he had

a fixation and how you say, let me and

just just she never you know she she she

did is, all to have many pretendientes, he's he's encargo

of one to one to get those and there there was who were who they took the

malas to quit because you're going to obviously they're they're

they all this was that something was going to happen to pass she

she planned she was too too because Robin a day

passed for her to a It was, more than a sit, a man, was a sequester.

In that moment she became in the woman of the Roben. She was, simply, I'm just, I'm,

I'm interested to your family, no me interest to live to live with me. Agann't how they want. She'll

want to be a person in a house that was at the afours of this people, a house

a house very luchos that was arounded of people that's They were dedicated to all this. Persons maliantes with

rosters, so malencaraed. All the time went and salian people with radio. An ambient is a supermement

tenso and this person gets, well, after that, caballieroso, he presents with her mom. He says,

he's going to live with us over, he goes, and here you get, mamacita, you don't

you say, until you say, you say, that you did you say, she'd

all the time, yorando, yorand, uniquely I'd only heard the voices

of the people who were in and they were in there were a little with people

with people that were to the family in some point after of a

time of being there she did know that that

every certain time this family had the visit

of a person that was a person that's She not

know of this thing and I'm I'm unknowed for complete

the thing of the drugeria but she had a point that this

family has been a sacrifice every certain time of

and when I go of the I don't I'm I'm I mean to

a animal so I'm to your criteria of you

and she and she all all the members of the family

and the people and all the people had

to participate. She saw in these ceremonies auspiciated in the patio of the house, they'd always the same.

Protection, power. And, and, so, the power to be invisible

and the enemy. So, she, she said, I, from the moment that

me sequestered, I was a person that I'm a person that God, but from the moment that me

sequestran, desafunabsternation and I I'm going to CITAR, I did I think in

him, because I resable and I'm reshaping and never me rescat them.

This woman started to have this acercement spiritual to the deity to that this

family he rended cult. So, so, she was, she became devote.

Okay. But she, like, of a form, without that nobody had,

but he had to be for her to be to go out of here, sacama here,

you're going to give to give a tribute, you're going to pass the time. But she was a ferrada pidingly to

this adidate, which is a idea that is an adidate that's not going to mention the numbers

because there people, and I know with respect that's a different religions,

a deidate of what we know like the palm jume. Okay, yeah.

And, well, she, she did much to to give to to give that

this piece of faith to this day. And it and it happened something

and he a single a man and he says, partate, we're going to have a, we

have a we need we need we're not we're a carionette of the lucho

because they're cars of luchos and a lot of things. He's

said, he's up this man I'm so I'm subed five men

more. A carioneta sumamente of lucho but with

women prepared. We were we we were we're very very happy because I had

much time that I don't see nothing I'm not I'm not no I'm not more than the patio

of the house and I was going to looking to outside the life

and we went in a carter this in the south of the

place in the actually is very very where we we're going

on a carter free circulating and the radios pendent and I

went to all those sides, emocionada, when I did a I,

of something that nobody more had been not out of us. In the nothing,

they were five camionettes negas. And in when this man, he began

the radio to ask refourses because we were in one, that's they were

armed to the hands to the two can't more and then they're

doing this was a persecution. In some moment he went the first the first

detonation that revented a vidrio and I the only that I took to my feet

me did like a ballita he did to get the chauffeur we went to the

camelon and only I remember how the vehicle where I was roadied and

started to reventar the balasos She She said That there were moments where

I felt how the balls they were to be I'm a me refugued

me and they're and they're to all those those that

I felt because when when a person receive a

ballazzo much people think that dole no dole

what what is the first is a first is a

Long bendy Twizzlers candy keeps the fun going. Keep the fun going. Twizzlers, keep the fun going. So, so you're going. So you're going. It's like if they're put on a fire calient. And it was sentia for all the

body. I said, I only grittable auxilio, grittable, and in that moment where

I was I was a borrose and the detonations and the fom and the polvo. I was that I

did that. And I saw the the eyes. I remember that I said, the ballas

and in some moments there was a silence and a and a zumbivito nothing

just in the ohio and I listen how people start

and They say, Revisen that all are dead. No, manches.

She was she was listening, but no she moved. And, see how they're

in the door. And he's I'm, I'm not said, a person, a person

that says, jefe, all are all are so, let us. So,

I'm, I'm going, I'm going to get to get in some moment, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm but in when they go, she says,

because why I'm sure that I'm sure that my my body is that my is that this woman didn't any impact

of the ball. Something impossible because the caminetta kept a banied in tiros. It was a

notice that came in this state even got to do to do to cover all the medians

and said I what I did in the middle of the nada I I carried to some caniels

to some canyles that were there. I went going, I'm going but it was the adrenaline

so all the mixture of the messla of the sensations and there was a moment where I was going to

and I started to doble and I got it and I'm dismayed when I open the

eyes I see a an anciana with a sonietta that me were

attending when I'm intent to talk me he says, Descansa.

No you know you know you know, you know, he was to be able to you're doing

and you do you're doing this you're doing a little herrida. Descancas. Today

Imelda view a life a life a happy without that time

because she saw that she saw how her was done but she he was

to be to those pediments and those orations that she levable

to this day. Oh, that impressive. Yeah. A me

I'm a little she she let's she she she's being devoted of this

entity? Yes, she, it has to do it does it and it does it

does it and she did she did a family all, so all so all

are they all this to this idea. Uh, yeah because no,

no it's not you don't know Fidate that is very impressionant

his story is very very a lot of what we're to talk a little more

very much very very similar but is very impressive how what

what you what is that is that function this how you think

some people people say that when when you do you

come you comeientas to this And some other people say

that is your own own your own your own like you like your power of

that you get to protect in a moment you think that is that really the intervention

divina of some deities that with the petition adequate they get and they

they're well what I consider without the absolute is that is

a mix of many factors the factor number one is the faith, independently

of the Deidate, we're the capacity to be able to create that you think you. So if you

do you do you do you can't get to have a result, you're going to have. Now,

are these deities that independently of that if exist or no, we're going to not, we don't, not

we're going to say or simply we just, simply we just just we're just people are doing

a tribute, Much of people They're giving a power So, it's going to something that you're

or not also not too much power and energy recabated could get to do

what also also it's like a miracle So I think it's like a sum of

factors and a sum of intentions no so contribute you

and contribute the entity because and depending of all if if we

we're inclin to talk for example from from

from from the They mention, many times, that's any other the demon

has a power also. So, I think is a sum of many factors, but it depends much the

faith of the people. Yes, is the faith. I think we go with the faith. Has it

a time, we know, we've talked a time here in the mess of the narcos satanical

Adolfo Constanso. It's we talked with the brother, the brother, the brother,

it's one of the cases that much people she impacted. Of course, we've got

that they're not satanical really. So, was the name that he gave the police

to see the blood, the cabra and the lot of things. No, no, are so Adolfo,

was a person who was a other level, even people of the same religion, and if you is that we're

not we're doing that we're not the cabron said, okay, if it's so I'm going to agree this for that

so, like it he was a kind of he was So, it was one of the cases brutal. The people

he enchanted the case of Adolfo because was a person with a person with

a much power, a person, I would say a prodigio, no? Is that Adolfo

had a combination of various creences or religions. For one part, his mother

practicable santeria and he inclinable for the palomayombe. Crece he with

this line but more And then when I was a oldecent that had between 17 and 18

years, he'd he'd he'd a time there and he'll and learn

magic negra. So, then he starts a combination of all this.

It's for that I think I think I had much know, and as you,

who who does who he's they're a person charismatic, that was

very very Aldrete that he's with him he described to that

a way, he's attractive, charismatic, amable, encantador. Of course

she she had a pod for him and he said Merlin. Okay.

She she said to a manna carinous Merlin. So, so

he combined many things, Adolfo was a was a very very very obscure, but

this carron and I mean, he said, he said, he said with the family of his

Pareja, I mean, he's a party to another man, and if I'm

interested, that you do you need to you know, we're to do you, we're

because I'm the power that he was really that he was very, I think he contributed

much because there was a moment when he went to with a person, I don't

I remember how he said, that was someone that was a person who had a

part of the moment, is where he's that he can be that he the

young, like he was, like there was a obscurity in when he when he

regressive to be at it? It's when it's when it's when it's when it's like

because you know because I'm you know because I'm he was a origin cuban

and she and she she practiced paloma yombe practicab but he always

he always was very attracted for these times so when took the opportunity

he he went to a time and he's he came a time and he

the number of the person with the I don't don't know if even even

even so I know but what if I see is that standing in Haiti he's he's

to introduce in the magic negra. It's when I think I'm a change

radical in the perception of Adolpho to the world, to the world, and it's

new new power, and there and there are parts, there are fragments that Sara

has told where in reality not you don't you do you do you do you

the comment you're doing the story anterior or well the question that I

did about what I think you that result of this type of things. In the

case of Adolfo, more a lot of he was going to talk to something in a garita

to cross the fronter, but Sarah he said, how is that you do you do you, how did you

did you did you? And Adolfo he said, there's a part very important in the things

that I do the first of them is that I think it that I will be to work

and that my entities, my deities me they're going to help. But the

second part and the most important of this is that you that you you're going you're doing

that you do you're going to do you do you do you do that I do.

If I have I have I have a part of responsibility of but the faith with you

do you make the things is what does it and say then say what you what you've

done is impressive not it was a great proesa, but it's something that

not would be a possible to not be in that's the result of the what you're

the question to the conviction of the but it's important because the faith is the point

central and there many bruchos me are to comment of whatever work

of the faith no put to do so all what you do you do you

have to be to be all the thing and I think that there came the

extra of the ritual the elements that you have something there's

An information extra that we did in that episode of Adolfo Constancio that was this person that practicable and was a prodigio of the magic of the brujeria

and is that the information that's Sarah in his book, you is the person that he's something that I

still don't have decifred, so I don't know what is what you're going to tell me to tell me something that

me impressioned much. It's a spoiler of what I'm going to tell

but I think it's very important. I'd like that they're an scene in a

department. A department that is located in the Riosena in the Colonia Cautemok

in the city of Mexico, very close of the Angel of the

Independence. The street is a one of a only one one

the department is the part the part of the building. Dentro

the department is a voice that's a voice of a man fire me, dispar me

do you do you know the person that's with the person who is he doesn't know what

does he and he he says disparame now because if we're in the

infirno you're going to be worse than you're this person

was the duby who had the arm in the man the person that was he was saying that was

he wasparate, was exactly Adolfo of Jesus Constance. The Duby Duda, and from the other quarter

is a voice of a woman that says, do you don't you detengas. In that moment,

a detonation. Adolfo, in that moment had per die a man of one of his friends, the Duby.

Because Adolfo he said he said, and Sarah he grita that he does this story, and how

we get to that point, it's the cuspide of this story. Okay.

It's the final of this story. Because so it's the but I'm to start with this

because to me was very, very, um, well, uh, where he he's,

he'd be a one of his friends that literally he'd the life. And he he's a

he's not he's, we're going to do it we're going to do you be a point.

Well, it's important mention that I think it was, it was it was Calvarse when

when he started to try the money or not to be able to get but he has a point of that really

was around was the resignation no, he's got with me here here

here there are two stories part of the story original

is what you you have you and the second part of the story or the

other artista or the other version of the story is what

says Sarah Aldrete precisely in his book that

she says she he's he's the book of a way,

you know he's he's he's but he he's in a way

with all the intention of I'm think to think of

your image and to tell that not I'm

not because she she she said she but

but I want I want to start or give

a question of who are who are they

are really what deton all this Adolf of Jesus Constanzo

nace in Miami in in 1969 he's he's he's a child

of a woman cubana that practicable with the time

he obviously is his religion for herencia she he's he starts

to practice but past the time in the adolescence he he has

a time in Haiti and is where he's where

he's where he he's these two, well, like, well, and create the

their own, the proper, his own their own their own their own. In 19883,

Constanceo is Muda to the city of Mexico. For that Adolfo was he

was known in the circles criminales because he was this service of protection,

jobs of brujeria, uh, jobs in general for people, the fact of people,

people, people of the people of the people. It's said that even he goes to

to work for artists and went to work for politicians but also he went to work for people that was

in circles criminales. No, not are the numbers but they know that they were

working for them. Time after he's a Matamor's regress to Matamoros

to Tamalipas specifically to a rancho called Rancho Santa Elena in the in the year

of 1987 is that he knows a Saral Aldrete here I don't

I'm going to because I want to tell how it's how it's but it is supposed to Sarah

the part of the history official they know they're they're a pair and Sarah

participate actively in these rituals that Adolfo he was constantly these

these these rituals like you do you but he was he was to give to the

extreme so of really those get to the

extreme because I don't want to be so a explicit

but before to do the before the was

the abus intimate to do to make much

do much much damage before to do once

that I was I even even even I was even

to make some the column etc some some diges

for call it so. So, so can imagine how what they were

these he had to be now. Now, the version official

says that Sarah Aldrette participable even even he did

an apod. She was known like the madrina. The

madrina. The madrina. The madrina. I mean, said that the

madrina participable actively that even even she even she had

to contact to people, to engage to people to to these rituals and that were literally the sacrifice. The offrenda. The offender.

So, what happens? In April of 1989, after many suceses, the police Mexican localizes this ranch. But when localized the rancho, no there was nobody. But they found many things. They found those amends, enterradas,

encountered a symbol of religious, encountered a bellator, or so, they found a quantity of impressionant of things. But because is that the police get to

this point? Because is that they're looking so so there's

there's a America that's called Mark Kilroy. Mark

was a student of medicine that came to back

to the front in Mexico for to pass the time he took

the he got to find with the car and Mark is

submitted to this type of rituals so sangrientos but in a manner horrible. When

when it's said all the truth and they're they're doing a lot of things with him

that really don't have they don't have done. As a student an student American

evidently they're they're they're the alertas in the agencies

international for the buskker of their citizen. It's for that the police in the city in Mexico, well, the city in Mexico, pardon, is a active.

And in conjunction with agencies internationales, they're in a buskedom of what happened with Mark Kilroy. That part, fiat, that how me gave, I mean, me gave courage,

because, net, he, took to intervene other, or, well, the, the, the, the, government of the United,

for that now they're doing their time, when we were that part of that was the part of that was the student

gringo, or they said, is that now so, no, to to work, they're

by there, no. But, well, fortunately, they're with those people.

Yes, they're because it's because it's because it did it, the police

Mexican, they're in 1989, this rancho that was in the front of the

right. Inmediate it's a buskka, they're in this moment, they're in

the city of Mexico. When they're they're to get to move to different

points, because for that not was Adolfo solo. He was with Sarah, was with the Duby, was with another person,

another man, he was also like his amante. He was a man. There was another chica that also had been her and was Sarah.

So if you have found almost all of his band had been had been had been a relation

sentimental with him. Exactly. Almost almost. Almost. So, when they

enter, they're they're they're they're to start to move in

different points. Inc. They were in the state of Morel. They were in Wastepec.

They were to move to all the other places. After that Adolfo he does a lot of

a person of his band and he says, consigem for favor a place more secure

and centric I want to be in the city of Mexico. It's when you get to

this department that you tell you in Riosena. There you was doing the investigation I found

that he always always had cargando, well, and in that moment,

I'd a maletita of the always with him. I don't let

let's not in any moment. When he's a little

to the person, he's a lot of and Sarah says that's full of

dollars, full of money Mexican and full of centenarios. I'd literally a

fortune in the hands. It was was of the little was to I think to to hauler

because he had much more. He'd did this money to the child and

is that he's that got the department in Riosena that is the first

scene that I started where where this end up this enfrontation he's the

end up the policeia he's arm there an ballacer impressive and

Adolfo he's the life Sarah he doesn't and

Sarah says I'm who was alerted to the authorities

even even Sarah is deten she they're they're the

dude the dude various persons pierred the life, practically Sarah is the only

survivor and they're to make the aclaration of the facts and discover that well, Sarah is the madrina.

In that moment is when it's when it's when that's all over what you began the time, because

it's the only person that's alive of the body of the case, no? Cae all the power of

the law in her. So, Sarah, well, he gets a prison is condenada

this I dood much that some day I'm going to get there's definitely

there's there's many times there she's adjudicate the participation

conjunta with Adolf Constanso in all these sacrifices that were all

those osamentas that's found in the frontera in this ranch

all she is culpable no she is culpable and she

but as no there no there's she van over over sorry

now this this what I is in a way very resumida

the version official for call it. But how they're really the things

from the point of the point of the point in a principle Sarah from

from prison he's to write a book where she

she want to she I think she was also I'm

also a kind of but the principal reason for

that she she The truth of Sarah Altrette. A person that, according she describes a same same

victim of the circumstances. Literally, she said that was in the place in the moment erroneo.

Okay. This is the version, if you permites, in the verandth, in the verand

in the summer of Jesus Constanso. A. time of that year Sarah came to

his work to his house and one of his herminas, he says, Oye,

do you, make to be in a place near a place with my friends, with my friends,

you can't get to be and then and then say, no, no, no,

I don't want. The truth is that I'm very things to do things to do you,

no, no, I can't go to go back for favor, you know,

give me, fiat in the importance of a decision. Sure. For favor,

get me, and Sarah, okay, to this, to be to be a lot, she,

decide to move to his car and decide to get to her a woman to this

place where she she said that in the car no to a car of a

high lucho specifically a grand marquis of the time she

she was she started the car of she she

she no she she know she she was she they were they

they were they and with much fear to he says to

her her manna, that's back, that's that's to make to the plaza

and that she gets a hour accorded. For this, the grand Marquis was a

little a little she's she kept inquietta and it and he did a

know that they're they're they're going to see again, they're they're

to see, they're they're they're not they're not they're not they're in the car and

can't do Before this, they're and she see a various people but there

a man in special that's a copilot that's because she describes that in

when he he discovered a looker a look a deep a

profound something something that he he can't he he

he caught to the he in this moment she she decided back

to do to be some aggression, and who who's he back

from the car is this Constanso. And the first what is presentarse. I'm

Adolfo of Jesus Constanzo and I want to know. She she gets

like a kind of but she kept in shock for two things.

She describes that was a person very attractive with

eyes clear and a mirabatic and a sonrisa really encantador. Adolfo,

with all these characteristics that really he really posseye, he's to make a

talk to Sarah. And he said, he said, he said, he said, he was in

a mission because he was a police judicial. Cosa not, not it

and then he said, that he also he also he to do the magic, that he's a

car, and he did in the moment, was very interested and had a fascination

very special these things for many things that had

passed and I'm a fascination very very marked for these times and Jesus

he does in the clav or the trap with this they're they're

to talk and Sarah never did his direction Sarah never he does

his telephone never he says more to that in this moment

and however a after of that after Jesus Constance

and he starts constantly in his cordial. All,

all, very cordial. But is where first she's when she asked, how

I know my direction? I could have seen. How knew my telephone?

How saw my movements? How she she begins to describe that when

he starts to have a relation more with him because it has,

it would be my mind, it said, it had the questions

to all my questions, including before that I was isier. Wow.

So, she starts to, to get a, to get a attraction more than

to the physical, I think to feel a attraction as an attraction as an intellectual. An admiration. An admiration.

So, this is this is going to be in something in the life of her so,

so, so, see in a emotion, of emotions, of desire, of the fascination

for the things that he he to talk about and even it is for

that he gets to put the name the name. With

much carino she put in. Now what he was a

rata there had all this this relation so

they start more more more intimate and she

never was how Adolf did what did that

after that even not not was in this

type of ritual but but had had yet

to have some he did a about to find his

things how he I'm in many things strange. So, in a moment

they were to a matamoros and I went to Bronsville and Adolfo

standing pared the point to cross the frontera you know you know

you know not not only not only not only just the documents that are

in regla that you get a so and then and Adolfo he says

we're in me. I'm going to go to the car. Faltable two cars. I'm going to

go to you're going to you're going to show your your papers, you're going to show you going to

pass to the policeie and in that moment I'm going to be invisible for him and for the eyes of

those people of those people. Nobody, absolutely nobody, will have the power

to detenerm that was that was something because no could cross the

frontier in the middle of the policeies and not be not serviced.

Sure. Sarah, Cree in him, he'll take the ballant, Adolfo he says, and literal,

she describes that he passed in the middle of various policies, it was like had crossed a phantasm

because didn't even to look to to be, to see, he called his attention, cruised

the frontera, camino a few hundred of meters ahead, Sarah cruza normal, and more

he's up and he says, now me and say, and sir that's how impressionant how he

you did. And it's where Adolfo he says, the power that has your faith in what you you need is the result positive or negative in that petition. And your faith in me was totally

a child. So contribute I, and contributed you. So, you're just they're in the elements. Exactly. It's there that Sarah's impression. Impressionate. Impresionate. I mean, so, no, knows what is happening, but

you'll understand that also she's she's more fascination for him.

I mean, it's like in a niche literally. Yeah, they're in a tutusada

as totally. Sarah, in her book, she salta this part of

the of the rituals where she says no participes actively.

Okay? What we we count in the principle with this child Mark

that two United and many other other And it's of April of 1989, at the 9 of the night,

he gets to the airport international of the city of Mexico. For this moment, to be in context, they're in a pair. They're just a lot of time standing together. And Adolfo always was very, how can say, very splendid with her. Okay. In some moment, just like a dot,

she choced her camionetta and the desiso. So, it was a accident, no, he passed nothing, and the desiso. And Adolfo le gave with a car and so it was. And she said, no, no, no, no, I'll accepter, no I want to accept. And, well, Adolfo, the only, the ultimate, that he said, well, pangelo in pangitos, no? Yeah. And she said, well, if it's so, then, then, then, then, then,

then he was giving, no? Dinero, so on what I go? He was very, um, he waslted with the money, was very splendid, always he gave a great, regalos, never he limited to nothing. So, then he regala a a trip. It's where I

understood that Sarah was there was a airport international of here of the

city of Mexico and that I'm to go to get a vacation to the port of

Acapulco which yeah no so she she got here to the

city of Mexico and when he yeah they're they're waiting

the guard of Adolfo there people there people who

they they're they're they they're they they're saying

sirs Sarah we we're a bad not what happened

we've been the sir Adolf but what what happened suffered a infarto and she

is a more okay and she yeah but I'm to have to go to do you know so I

have to for favor accompany us Sarah says that's he's up the

carmionette of he's he's he's that he's a point to

know he's he's he's he's he he's the

serious they're to a a a a a a

a whole of a entire he's entire that he's

part of him and they and then he's not a hospital and

the guard he said the sir constance is being

attended and he he we let tryger to

this point she she she is very very

about the when he he he the door

he he was fumando a vano and tomandos a cup and she starts to read. And she

was very enojated and he says, what did you do you do you and he

he said it was a brauma and she you're you're you're conscious

of what you angustia of I'm I'm going to go to

I'm he's he he's he's he's all he all he all he

he said all he said is that I think this, no it's she, but I think

that this trap was to get her to put her without any objection. Because as she had a

project to have a other a other other place, maybe if they said

we're going to go, no, then I have got I think was a trap

of him to attract her to to him and to get with her.

What Sarah not was that is that here in this point is where is where is going to

start the calvario that lived during many years along of Adolf she says

he says that he platic with him after that he said he said I don't

want to you know you I know you have you have a little you know you're

I'm going to pay the change of the other for favor keep you get to

you as you're quite get to get to me until after

condescending, he was a amable, this, caballieros. It was caballeros, et cetera. And he

said, Sarah, well, if no I don't have other option, this, then I

said, okay. At the day the next, Adolfo he said, we have

some things to do you have you go and you know, and he he was

a house of a person of a person that he called his ah, is here where

Sarah starts to reactionary and says, my papas are going to be concerned because of the last I'm not

I'm not don't know where I'm I'm going and I'm trying to try to get a and then

he says, no you can't call to nobody. And yeah, but why? No, you can't

call to nobody. In that moment just is when Adolfo does the turn the

and it's when he's he's when he says, no you can't say to not you can not you can

get to and he says, no, but is that just I want to give to my papas. No, no, you can't do. It's a while. In the house of

this hajado and he says, of here you're going to move. In a discue, she agarre the telephone now, that's

telephones in that moment, mark and no contested their papas, and not contested their papas. So,

I do, what I do? How do you? I know, there was a becina that they said, there was a beva,

and that they'd say, that I'm a beva and that this Beba and in that moment

she does know of the grave that's the situation. Abla with the and the

becina and says, where you say, calmate, I'm I'm going with Adolfo.

And he said, you and you and your friends are coming on the

television accused of crimes of crimees of first grade and

that they and to you and to be culpables of Osamentas that

encountered in a ranch So it's supposed that she in that point No, they didn't know what? No, I didn't know. This is the version of Sarah. Okay. Okay, this is the version. And Sarah says, what?

And he says, the Beva, yes, you're in the television. All of that for telephone. All right. Everything is so for telephone. Because no could talk with the papas and then decide to talk to the becina. And it's the that he does the news and he says,

no is possible. You're in television national. Your rostro and the of all your friends, including the Constance, are in television and they're looking and you're

so kind of wait a I don't know I don't know in that moment coelga the telephone try to go out of

the escaleras and in the escaleras and in the he never said that she made that he he said

to where you he said is that you he was to you're in that moment pachettetton you said

that you don't you don't you Well, yeah, for that moment, the principal means of communication of the country scribed in the titulares. Today, a discovery

sombril, revealed the activities macabras of a secta budu, so he put in the press, that operable in the zone fronterice. For that moment, the police judicial

had been found this cemetery clandestino that was in the rancho Santa Elena. This rancho was to make to more or less they're at 30

kilometers of distance of the city of Matamorz. Okay. Yeah, was all discovered. In that moment, they had the rostros of Sarah, yeah, they had the rostro of Jesus and the

other complices. It's where the persecution. For this moment, obviously, Constanceo, you know, they know that they were. They're still going to. All this, as we've seen at the history of Mark Kilroy, that was the who started to, to look at the authorities

United. It's for so that that's that's to discover all this. They're in a Peregrinar of one to another to another

they're moving to a point you know that in this moment they're in Quirnavaca they're in

Guastepec and they're in much cities until that for this

Adolfo is established in a little department with her is when when he

the television and he he's see in the television and still

he still the cynism to brom because he was the television

this is a that she went, I'm very extrana. He's watching the

television with Sarah and he said, you've seen the photo that put you

didn't, they've to have elected other. I'm like, no I

don't be good, so Sarah, uh, well, in crisis and Adolfo only

bromed about about how he was, of how he was, to be it, to be it,

and it seemed, it, in this moment Sarah says that he he saw he was

he did do complacient separate the camera with the intention

to get from the intention of he's not he was going to move to make a arm of

a fire and he the point directly to the head and he says if you

move if you you you're you're so she does she does

that she is trapped literally is trapped it is very

difficult that that could that could be a

problem that I don't see if you know you know a problem

of health had had a had a chronic that

that he caused a problem he cause malestar

need need constant attention of medication of a

doctor etc and in that moment for that not

not was prevenida for this situation that was not

he was not all all all all all all

because more later is into the story a person that's like they're

like they're not going over little for do a service so. So, then pass the

time, they're to be to get to other until to get this moment

where they're at the house of one of this people

that are members of the and is that Adolf he does this ball of

money, he does a lot for to get a department and

not to be to be going and be established at least in a

point where they're they're not they're not so they get a Riosena very close

the angel of the independence in the colony Kuatemok in the city of

Mexico when when they were the things lojousas they they were

ostentos and however the department was very very very but

he was very he said it's perfect here no we don't not

easily. They're in that department. Sarah's starts to feel bad.

It's the cautivary more the encirre in a quarter. That is important

to mention that I had two windows. One a window in the door

and a window and a window that was the the maltratia, it has psychologically yeah very

bad, but also he knows that she had a paininging a medical. It's

so, that he called a a friend of him that was a doctor. And he

said, I need to me does a favor, I need a person, I need to come,

that you bring you take you this type of medications and that you can

you're to be and you the whole the innocence and he he does

a the help to feel better. When the amiga is that when the thing is to

you can't get to get to get to until we we're all right and the but if I only came to

give a comfort, yeah no can't get difficult no? After here,

how you see the that's the story? No, fichate that precisely

as you comment as he's a time that he's a person because I have heard

I've heard testimony of people that mention a phrase very burda and is

it's he met the devil he met the chamuco because

they're people I mean rapidissimo a person of a testimony of how

was his chief that pertensia uh a a group

delictivo and that they had uh control of a penal

and is that the that you know he's the last you don't

you when you know when I of good You know, you, you

thought you could, no, because this this senior had a moment,

I mean and I remember much to Adolfo and he he said, um, I need a

toulager, I need a but if I was innocent, no, so I, who,

who no, who no, that I'm, he not, probably probably because he wants to make,

maybe because he'd be a car, this way I, pedia, because he had

because he had So, but it was with a total a temple like, I said, no, this boy

is, he's, he's, he's he met the devil of the good at

those. So, so I'm really, that type of, of the actitudes

of that that I'm, not with your image, this or the other, but in a little

he regress, and, I mean, it's very cabron. Fidate that Sarah was just

yeah really much psychologically in that moment. Yeah, I know to think

to do to do to do how it was to You're going to tell

something that she went to his book. During that I'm that I

think you didn't two windows, the room where she was

a room in the room I imagine that was a and a

back to the street to the door she she she

she and to try to to get to

to the plant back so she hear so yeah

so this fantasyoso she she says that when he's starting to go to

get to the fourth she's she's she's what curious that she she's

she's she's when he's this in his book or when he has

got to come in an interview says is what is the

that is the more that the day of day of no I know if

this this is part of a alus or if

really I sabanas and I tried to I don't see So is conscious of that what he lived what's

redacting? Could not be real okay yeah because she says no see no see if this is

part of an hallucination that I took for the shock traumatic and that my mind was with

that I'm that I'm I imagined that I did this or if really did or if really really

so I'm just so I just I'm just I think I'm so I'm sure that has been real

What's what's real is that Sarah in the front was never was a whatever signal

to be there was always yeah justperated yeah they've been shequestrated not could

advise to his parents the police the police was looking she had she had the not able

to explain that she not was she was she was simply a victim of the

situation and that simply was in the in the moment in the moment equivocated.

No I knew what in one of those occasions because I had limited to all, discovered

something I think I'm what at least in that moment he saved the life.

Adolf had he had had been a over a mario in the

bureau of where was Sarah and a pluma Sarah, how can he ranca

a catchito of this sobre he's he's and he guard

the pluma or the lapis that the Time after, when

she's she's a little, she'd a message of in that paper

rogating that to who were that that information let me to know

to the authorities this situation. She was sequestrated was

Adolfo of Jesus Constanceo there the moment. He gave the

name. She, she she, she gave all the data, even

he put the direction exact, for if the paper was to

with the wind that you will know what's to see. And he

put it he was simply a reen. This paper it's like a

little and he and he's in the window the moment

exact. In that he a carionetta like with

logit and all to the part back and be that

and be that's because they're with some aspirators industrial

to do some job to a thing She, how can,

try to call your attention and he and he's the paper. Affortunately one of them see,

he'll call the attention, recoge the paper, he, and he and he's thinking what to do.

I'll see the car desperated of Sarah. Guarded the paper and he's going. And Sarah

is my only opportunity. The reality is that this young is that this In some way, he was to see

to be a police. That time were in the department and started to hear sirenas, they were to

listen to watch for the windows and they're going that all the policeia and it's to be around the

building. In that Jesus he's in panico? Well, fiat you not in

panic, but if enter in alerta. Okay. It was an person, Adolfo,

not was a person that entered in panic. It was a person that was a very aggressive. Okay. So,

but the other members of his band for if they entered in panic. Yeah, including Sarah. In that moment Adolfo

took a metragetta and the Duby took another. Salen for the ventana and they say, Acabalos. And it's

said that were the windows of this building in Riosena and they started to metrallel literally to the

patruias. So, they started the arms and they started to start. So, it's to be

a mobilization policeica enormous this they're to try to get to

get to get to all the money that's he's and he and he

he's and he and he says, and he says, of here we're

going to not to get to my money so the policeies

okay and he starts to try the money for the ventana

and it's a control in the car the the

sire the the marasos, the all all is to

discontroll various members of the band are the and they're to attack with fire

Sarah is a kind of he's in the quarter this where was

reclued and it's just in this moment where we get we at the beginning

of the point no Adolfo of Jesus Constanzo is

impeded he be disminued for the forces of the

police and he he said I don't I don't

try the but in this moment he he

He says to Duby, take the arm and disbar me. And it's when the Duby aude and he

says no. But not only he pere that he he'll be that he's a guy to know

Martin, that he's a man. Okay. Jesus. They're they're in a closet

and they say they they're suplicate to the duby that he's, that they say,

he says if no you know you do you we're going to go to you're going to get to

the Fris. The Duby in shock and with fear, disparate and he's a two amants in the closet.

In that moment Sarah, is going to the escalars a gattas. One of the policies the be,

the garra, the cubre, because no know what on, no know who is, the cover, the sack,

and he he gets to a patruia. She kept in the patruia. Fiatte that,

before this, before that they they're the life Adolfo, there's

a phrase that he says and that he write in his book.

When she I'm when he said, he said, until the

last day with me and then he and he and he and he

and then he and then after all this that they get a life

to be she, she, they're getting to a patruia and

they're they're not Sarah is that there there was

another calvario because that they were, not they were to believe in their, not they were

to create their version. This balacera was a longed about 45 minutes before that the

agents entered and they were to get around to those who were in the closet

they found to the body of Jesus Constance and of Martin Quintana

that that he's cuted the the Dubi the other

person and well the history practically terminate there

the 30 From 1994, Sarah is judged and sentencinged a 62 years of prison for participate in diverses criminals crimenes, including 13 prohibitions of the liberty, delitos contra the health, specifically

for possession, exportation, and distribution of substances prohibits. Because this part, not we talked much in the story, but Jesus, apart of all, was he dedicated to, to vent, distribution, and other of substances prohibits.

It was one of his principal negotiations. Also, he was used to a copio of arms of fire,

profanation, and association delictuos. All so, all the cargos that could have had been

to Adolfo were for her. For them, 47 years and six months for each one

of the privations of the liberty. Oh, imagine a year. 10 years for

every delito under the health, 12 years for the acopio of arms,

two years for the profanation and five years for the association delictuosa. The result of all this

because, are 47 years for every privation of the liberty. The result is 618

years and five months just for having to have taken the life to other other people,

more, so Sarah, no, not say, now. Imagine it, man.

How much How many lives Necesses To be To be A 6447 So like Like he's

Like they're The number 6477 with 62 years And posteriorly He quit around 50 years For a

For a cargo That no Procedy Never Never will To be To be

Today Today Sarah Remenece in Prison In this book

That's much more More In the She She doesn't She's Innocent

and Unicement It's victim of Adolfo of Jesus Constanso. The reality

is that the truth of this story all day of today only is in the mind of

a person she knows that if did, what did, how did how did to do

what he did, and it's that'sara. That's great, I mean, I think

you mentioned a phrase after a time of, you're in the place,

in the moment equivocated and you top with the persons equivocados. But I think also, I mean, I've mentioned

anteriorly, I know you, but I don't think in the casuality, the insistence of her mother in the moment

of the was, it was clave, it's clave. If she had not, I know, a year,

loose, of that this passer. You think, despite of what you said, after what you you just,

you just did, the case, of the investigation that you did you did too for other program,

you think that she is culpable or innocent. Look, I think is the very famous that he's a very famous, that he can't beca, as the cat,

as he has a cat. I think that in a principle she didn't, I don't know they, but there

a moment where, and justly so it's like, with cases that we've investigated, there's the

factor of ambition, is the factor of the luxus, there's the endormation, there,

many factors that are making that the person victim, between commies,

is the going to get to get a into the problem, and that's a person,

and that's a responsible. And here we've done to let me forget me

to forget or the family, that is the she's the one of a moment

where the ambition, the money, I, like, to not

to not not, so like, like, no, I'm I don't

know I don't know that I'm doing a I'm going to but you know

I'm really that they're that's very much that's so they got to

and you know to get a rott to demembrar to a little so I

said no I repent to not have me before you think you think you you're

you're you're you're you're so then then unfortunately

you you're and now better even more even

the all the or the or of the or of the most important of the

of the name of the name of your alias, see that I'm a interview I'm in

criminalment there's like you see that you're very good thank

thank I'm I'm I'm I'm talking about to Sarah Alde

the interview and he he he told his story and I I'm

I'm I'm like so I'm like the part professional if

you want you, Saskia, you, Saskia, the front, say, tajant, tell me, you think that's

culpable or innocent? And Saskia she kept thinking, culpable. So, it's when,

you know, then you, put it in the balancas those two versions of the history, where Sarah

participated, where Sarah was the madrina, where Sarah participate actively in these rituals,

And, of this side you put the story that I've to talk. The victim. A victim. A victim of

the circumstances, literally privated to the liberty, contra the whole. No, I knew that

had passed. No, I was about the body, not of the osamentas. I mean, I was,

I'm not of that type. I don't see if, a little I'm sorry me still to be

misconduct there. There was a moment to Sarah, they were to be a ritualization?

Yeah. So, she yeah Yeah, you know, of the rituals that I think they were

to do you want to be a raillamient. The, of it's exactly, like a

baptism. Ah, yeah, so, so, so, so, so,

so, what she deslinda, and of what she says, is innocent, is of the participation,

maybe, is she introduced to the religion, so, yeah, is she is so,

she's, she's, but maybe, of what she, says, that, was, of these,

these, these, rituals that yeah congevathed lives human that

that don't have abusers and an infine of things

atroces that did with the people but it's that I

generate a doubt because if she was part

of the group has to participate because it's

the protection for everyone and if she she was

it's like it's not because if you you

end with you don't participates for me. I mean, I can't care for you. So, I think if there's a little

like this part of, no, there's a coerence, no, no. It's not that. It was a ritual, there's a lot of protection,

of blindage, of power, you have to be there's to be. Of course, I don't know of these rituals that Adolfo of

Jesus Constanceo, he said that they're precisely for that type of protection. He said that those sacrifices

that were that were those sacrifices of the are for him and for all his equipment.

And he said, this we've got to the ballas and we make invisible to the

eyes of the policeia. And the story that I'm the part, where it a carita,

where it's a frontera? How do you explain? It's impressive. Because it's

that part not, the part paranormal supernatural, where there's an force to the

force of the man and has that the thing So, the history

that came to the first the first of the child that literally

was a little bit that's that's very impressive. That's very

interesting. For your story that the story that is that is like

it's like if is like these stories the rituals

I think are very similar because they are they're

because they're going and this story that I to

tell is the story of Augustine I do a

context this, Agustine is a name yeah very that was a little municipal of here

of the south of the country. He came to this municipality he was to other

other and since he was very young he he started to bring this

this model to the people like a little super but he he

started with a thing he had a something he said something

he said is that in this then in those years there were, and those that were very

very disquidated and the people gave the people, I started to try all this and I began to gain

clients. For rapid he did a grand chain of, the tiendas. I don't

a grader or a cadena international or no, it was a was a carena

but of his state so. Okay. So, but there was with

cheese or the enchilas there had money. He, in

moment, this is established in this place in this place, has a his wife,

he's called Xel and his two his wife, that is Valentina and Carolina. The

really was super well, no, he was nothing, he had various succursals,

the new things prospering, and then to get to the part where nobody is there

never is in some point of the life, so it that gets there

of those Tendas. In fact, they're in the matri where he had

his offices and he those in the cameras how they're in the they're saying,

we're going to talk with Austin. This, we're we're going to talk to and they

get them. Yeah. The employees, all of that is, passel. And he

do they, he, they're saying these people and these people and this thing is

you're going to to pay us a month and not if you're going to be able to you're going to you're going to

he's going to he said that the sum that they were very high but he was very high but he

always always thought in your family, in his his wife and for me

he said he's fine he's being you're going to pay but for favor

to my family not don't don't they're they're the thing

I was more or less. And, well, you know that this person

and started to start money to start money to very rapidly, they started

those hostigements, the and the times, the time, and the they were

saying, no, well, you know, we're not, now you want to

now you're going, this is the the poor moment because yeah, this person

us said, is that practically wanted the, of all, of all, of all.

all. And it's graciously the first is amazer with your family. Your spouse,

with your kids, you know, in what school are, you know, where they move in a

lot of things. And for fear, he says, it's a good, but for

favor, no those to come, no those toke, no those he's, and so

they were for a few years. He said he had problems in the administration because

you know to sort the tinder, so the centers, those these tenders

had this sustento for employees that's, he started to be the client's the clientes

the client's they're not they're not they're what they they were and then they're

they're going to get and then we're we're going more? Disses that you

don't know I'm how you you're going to do you have to have you something

we're more and if you your family there there

there He and his family do a prayer and they're persons creetientes in God and they're

to be praying, saying, God, God, help us. God, please,

keep us to these people, making orations. And is that they had done

a first. He got the time and he mark the leader of this

group and he says, you're four hours to give those many millions of

pesos. Four hours. If not we have, we know that's in your house and that's at all your family. You know, you know, if no do you do. Cuelga and then starts the preoccupation, the angustia. He said that the money didn't even he had. All the money had already had so they had

properties, create things more. And there was a moment where he was he started to summars, and you say, is that they're expecting to that we're to get a

we're in this moment because he he saw the vehicles that were stationed out of their house.

Well, now, so, now, so, what do you do you? So, what you do?

You know, you're, it's a moment where he sentia that the heart was to be to

get to where he, no, I was, not, I want to not want to that pressure.

The only what does is to take to the man to your family, to go to the last quarter,

encerrars with the door, put your and to all the four. Passed the time,

the hours were, a part of that we know how it's how it's the time,

he said, the time is going so when me I got there, you know, I felt

three, yeah, I felt about a hour, yeah, I felt about a half hour.

And I knew, and I know what and and, and he started to listen

the mobilization of the vehicles. He no knew what to do,

no I'm to do what he and he mentioned that he says

apart of his family and he goes now and he and regress pass the time

and he he began to listen those in his his

his patadas and tum the door malditions and listen the botas of those

men who are revising, maldicing, buskandolo. And the only what he does his family is in a

corner, he goes, he puts, and he's trying to have to haverasals to all, while

they were, and they were in the door to work, after that he was in the last time where they

were in they're, and they said, you know that you're there

and they're to patty but I'm there a

lot of a lot of mebbles he was he's he's he

he's he and he he starts he and he he's

to say more value more that you or you go

to be better he he he he he he

he he he starts the moving the door

and this is of a movie because he's a point of

when he opened the door they're in like they're in like 15

cabrones and they're to do this hefe no there's

nobody here no he said I was I was I was I'm

my family was in a house there no nobody they

went to at what hours they they went

and they they this person see how they're how they're how they're

how they're their family no so there's a like a so after they're there's a

tormentor because I said I felt how my heart was so that's so

that in whatever moment me I was to do my family

was my family's we those had to have seen in that moment agarran a maletta

little the basic they're they're abandoned in the place. Fortunately the

sir had a little of the money that he wasto to be

to be to be a family. This has to happen, more of 20 years. Do you Augustine

us in the relato today I put a capilla to my little

I don't believe in her but it was the ultimate option that I

had and when I went to go to part in silence in silences

was to she and and I put his

capilla he left he he was all he he

so A person, Adolfo, invisible. Two, the two two, his wife, and he, four people. No, they're, no, I don't know how many, six, out of the quarter

looking, no, there's nobody. So, what's the thing, what happens? So, is incredible the phenomenon that's produced in

that moment. It's incredible, really, sumamintryible, how actua the intention, the faith, and the power for that your material be invisible. I think it's a combination

between the faith that you have to those deities that you can't inclinart to restarles. It's that faith and maybe that these deities you can't and really they help in that moment. No, I'm going to another explanation.

I don't know. How how you're going to your family invisible in a a room like this. Right. A little where visibly

you're going to be in quite they're in that they're in that a chica that's in a carmionette

the ballaceen and no sit the ballas and when they're nothing. Exactly. People

that tell this type of stories that have been so close of these miracles, because you can't

be in manner. Yes. Yes. It's very difficult to believe, but I think

can be possible. I think can exist this type of things. And, repito, are very

related with the faith and the force that you does and the you can't these entities for that in a certain

moment, act they're in your favor. What's the way to terminate this episode, how do you do you know?

Very impactant to all the stories, eh? I, I, I justo much. Thank you. I.

I've got much, much, much, to be here. I get in the mind many many

stories that me impact literallyly. So, of really me impact I mean, I kept thinking the alcanses of the paranormal when you get

to combine with this type of stories of crime and that they're a result incredible and surprising. Unfortunately, in the two stories that you us contests, there's a final, well, is a good final. And we're we can't with that intrigue, we'll get with that doubt of how

how is these two worlds and how when your faith

and what you know, because if you're you're you know, this these two

stories have a common denominerer. No, it's not bad. Sure.

It's is asking for your life, in the case of the child and for the

life of your family in the case of this man, you're not you're

not you not you're asking to come with someone and you're paying for

your life and you you're like a nominator that is important to take

in account. Because I think when the intention is good, the result can be

very good very good too. What way to terminate this gravation? Thank you.

No, the contrary. That portation extra of Sarah that we know we really, me

really, me really, me can't because it is to know, the other side of the money,

no, what what the version official, I think is very so much to demonstrate.

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