EXTRA ANORMAL - Historias Reales y Escalofriantes de Juguetes Poseídos y Malditos

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

🛑 Advertencia: Este video puede alterar tu percepción sobre los objetos más inocentes.En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias y Antonio Zamudio se sumergen en las historias más escalofriantes sobre juguetes poseídos y malditos que han sembrado terror en el mundo real. 🧸🔥Desde muñecos que se mueven solos, hasta entidades demoníacas que habitan dentro de inocentes juguetes infantiles... estas historias no son leyendas urbanas, son testimonios reales que te pondrán la piel de gallina.Antonio Zamudio, experto en fenómenos paranormales, nos revela casos documentados y sus consecuencias... algunos tan fuertes que tuvieron que ser exorcizados.Familia pueden visitar el trabajo de nuestro invitado en: ‪@HistoriasEmbrujadasPodcast‬ y ‪@agentesdenegro‬ 🕯️ ¡Suscríbete y no te pierdas los nuevos episodios llenos de misterio, terror y lo inexplicable!🧠 ¿Tú te atreverías a dormir con uno de estos juguetes en tu cuarto?

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yes, this three-clices not so, so what you're seeing in the video, it was to have been a piece of approximately three, five, seven years for that the Pescerer the movement of the

force in the and the tricyclos advanced. And when they're in the room, the child is totally

aterrower or is not saying any one a word only is that's signaling

to a corner where is the marionette and it and he does know the parents of

that the little he had had a marcus in his in his in his

and he he says is that he said he he started to callpeer? How me

he started to do you I've been to get this muco Samudio I'm

the head of the manned and the courage to get to the carhack

how he got to get the monitor and the object that

the object that the people don't know I'm to say

for the time that we're doing this episode

that television that is the left of Samudio, the people have seen there.

Always has been there. The television was in the piece, put on the man,

all a chaos. The door of the muke was semi-abirted and was with the

front super-recargated. And it was a cargated. What a lot of it. What a What a podcast

Anormal. My name is Pacuarias. I'm very happy to be able to be. an episode with you this occasion family

we're an invite a lot of a person very special a great friend friend a great

colleague Antonio Samudio how you amos always a privilege to share a microphone

with you and so with your audience that I think yeah it's

like a family complete no amy that between podcast

extra an normal so they're and for if for a

little stories embruched that so others in the studios of Tuxpec. Thank you. No,

my, man. It's an honor like you and let's to do it. Oh, yeah, the people, you know,

the time that we've got this night, because I bring some cases, and I think there's a person better than you.

No, man, thanks. That's. That's, that's been and that's not only the essence of

every case, but also you know, the side historical, the side of the investigation. It's a time

that's a very very interesting and even I'm atro about to say that I'm trying to say it's very

very few times but for there's many people have lived something about the object of

the mukees malditos no? You what do you think you have to a distinction

for your public in context of why an object can ariar

an energy and without a person can have certain

certain certain certain certain certain certain energy. It's

that's for all the human not we don't we can't get charned

with certain energies but we can't get us we can perceive in the

gamut in the concept in the object is different for example I know

that you have you have you know that you represent or symbolize things

that you think you think so my chrisim Paco all what are

objects that are personal I mean, we're going to more to the history, no? And,

you're going to mention a little to do you. Yeah, to go to the amuletto for me,

for Antonio Samudio, is only my an idea. Because this is the thing I received in a

form very strange. Yeah, I've told about about him. That's it.

It's. It's a question of the when I was my father when I was my father,

and the thing of what he envue to the thing of the power.

For me, if I not I fian so creencia, but I fience, but I fienzo from my point of

my point of my point because he got, because he went to a way with a matter with a

fact, not it's that you have used, he had done to do you know, so it.

So, so it's that force and in that I carry in the energy. The day

that I transcends, this annie, will have to have to get that the

force with the more the force with the that I do it for me

represent the only amulete a man that protect

against whatever actual natural paranormal. Yeah I've said in

some occasions in context of this object of when it's the repel

it's of the I'm you know with a later that's

also looking another other platero that he and

usually usually after after he and he he put

certain certain some like cremas or something for

so and embe the and the little he gave

a supleton of a fire. And, of a sudden, to me said that more of two occasions he avented the so, he

ached the so pletone of fire. And he's it. And he's he was back. And so, but with a fire red, me I said. No, man. I said, no, I don't know, where's, even I said, that's,

he said, that's, I'm saying, that's, I'm saying. I, no, sir, there, there, there, because, evidently, not, it's

not to explain to me, is that the history, no, so, I said, well, where you You know, and you're going to, what you're going, no. So, is that he's like, it's like, they're like residues, they're like, oh, asufre or metano, you know,

and I, well, well, that's in context, what, well, that's in context, what makes, me affianza more the, the, if you want, or the contendence of the fact that the object for me, me, me protect. So, when I tracienda, so, it's the essence of Samudio in this anil. Okay. So, the same

So it's, the same So it's The same Mneces, Munecos, even objects of cults,

like the Cetros, like the martyos, all this type of things. Yes.

I get clear that the diversification of the energy could be based to

what what happened or what happened with the object in the case of

the case of the is distinct because not not it's of that it's

only a person but it's that they're people possibly of a fact of

this and when I'm about a fact that I'm saying I'm

a sound a little strange when I say I'm because at

final of the day I don't give a life to

that like if was a person testigu something

but but are testig mud or objects that

are in a space and there succeeded a tragic. When I'm

about tragic I'm talking of a desvibed tragic. Yes. Yeah, I'm

I'm sorry. I'mud. Because just like you do you know you do the intention

to the object. The object without your intention, if that form of create that

connection would be an object inert if you don't do that power. The

power comes really really So, me has to think in because many

times the the toys of the children have been like a kind of something. Because imagine

if we we're going to think that in a balance in creensias, who creen more

more with illusion, with that certainty an adult or a kid? Evidentement

a little. For so even the Bible us mark that you to be as a little, but you have to

create. So, we're doing much the power of the creencia, how radica and now how

can be more major if you put us on the balance of a man? And what is what does a kid of your

favorite, when he has a object with a child generate a a vinko, do you know, and he

want to be with him, that intention, has a connection, has this essence, has part of his energy.

So, So it creates an identity propia. He creates an identity propia. So it's possible that that vinculation

with that energy could make that in some moment that's a moeco is more. It's that we'd have to analyze

exactly how how create that person the child. I'm clear and it's very very well

and it's very factible to your hypothesis. Because it radica in the in the game

of the young. The new is, we're to make the people,

the new has a little bit of the world and there's some people can't be characters

that we don't not properly people and not probably, but it's part of

your imagination that create a example, uh, the right,

he's a person, he's a man, he, and he, he has other sequasas

at him, those are concepts imaginative, and However, if enter

between his games, a muke or a statue or a statue or a statue

to do a new thing, is to be you're going to be a man, you are going to do the

other and those other they don't be in the physical, but more well, be a

his own his own his own his own his only company so what is

what is creating is creating a idea. If could generate

this, we're to put the bullysio of energy that probably the

child he creed that identity and he he almost a case a conscience exactly

that's a what I go. Because when you put identity to something there's a

example, there a case that I talked about a person that I appreciate a much that he

took to my family for many years. This person unfortunately pierred a his son

a single his son, you know no I'll have children. And

however, um, this is, I go, it's, I mean, it's, this

she's thinking that his his wife, so, not assimilated the death of

his either, or the moment to dinner, for example, in the table,

on the table in the she, she, she, she has been a lot so, and so,

he's, so, he's, so, so, he's, he, he's,

he, but no. So, really it's really it's the time. The time

we've gone to your house, it's a house that a really free. Of a

repent we've heard and my mom, one of this you know, this I'm a lot of

he said, he said, no, it's my he's my he's in the room. But you

do it with a naturality. Yes, for this for this for this thing

is coexiste with still still exactly. Exactly. So, so we in

in that so then we didn't anything of this like like that

what? Yeah, so there he he's me accompany always

we're we're looking for a real and we see how it's it's

a other then then it's it generated for

the intention of that I'm I'm I'm a

kind of in the context in the context well the tulpa

is based in the concept Tibetan that is an

idea created by the monks and all in thinking they create

an something, they're in a question. For the lady, your co-exist- is, just with

something that you know, but that for his psyche, his psyche, I'm going to his psychology

not is not disprendient to that person that per die. It's to say, for her no existio

the parted. So, then it form a way that even I can

assure, making a hypothesis, probably those who visit to the she

She translared or they're submerged to their time of her

has created like a scenario propitious that still his his

and for so they can divis by the eye of the eye

but you can't be in the physical like she

even even even even even even exactly because

she just exactly because she he he he he

he he platica with for the for the reality of

she is for So, no, he doesn't to put a plato, no he has to serve food,

you know, it's like, it's something, it's something is something really curious, but the director of the,

of the film, uh, Sexto Sentito, he plasma. But it plasma in the mind of the

phantasm that not is a person, the, the, the person of the person

that was the person that came, the person personage the principal, sixthsentido, beanla, it's very

good. For her still is the process of soledity and process of duels.

So, however, for the spirit, no there's a process of a dis-vinculation

because it is. In their their own psychis, the phantasm or the spirit,

it's still coexistiening. And so so it happens, and those lives with the mortes.

What has to identify is just where is where is the reality of that

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this time but there this negation if it's a person very apprehensive so we

we're doing for the people we're for the people who are in this cumul of thinking

it's like she has for who we're to get to another side to get to

a car where it's a prerality a Malabif, she's something even

even even as a a woman that I'm a woman that I'm

a person very clean and a person in the house that is not

correspond to specifically to food disposed but is a

is a old peculiar I I'm a idea to

I would say I was the love to literally

literally it sounds it but is the reality

because those people not they de-sepean. The most curious of the

issue is that just all what conge to the object of the person of the person who did the

person who still are carrying with the energy of the coexistence of that

she said the woman to the a new a new a new a carisette

of a a rope or whatever for that person still still occuping

that space who who who who of the similar of those

aromas, but maybe that energy that vincula with the state of the person that said,

that's psychosensations. That's great, I want to talk a story, but we

we've seen the long, we've now, so it has a got to be

that it has been, so, so, for that's that you get to that's

because they're they're they're how an object can't allow an energy,

so, I can, they're to, like the version that we have been

talked about of the senior amistat your like this even even to

have a object very atesorated for us and now to

also also the game that can develop a engagement

of the own the I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm to talk a because I'm because if he he

basically the the the vincal the basically a

young with a but first on Samudio, for

favor. Ah, well, you know, stories in Borgas podcast, the podcast

that we're in co-production with my great-a-sim Paco Arias. And also we're ines we're going

to get to $0,000 for for agents of the people. We're we're doing

new content. We did a video special with Paco and with many of the ones,

the zone of the way, we're going to get a question. It's going to

be a people that the people that was we the night of Valpurgis. This

past 30 to April, the madrugat the morning at the 30 we're in Peña de Lobo if we

captable things things that I'm all the heart. To all the all the

team, a lot of the people, yes, Samudio came on a type of encantamient

where it's a great-stom was a supertisim and then in the people

of the content exclusive will be the investigation completely me. Like

there And then, I said, way, it's the first it's the first time that's the I'm

talking about the brother. Sam, he's, it's good, very, Densop. They were

very can't. I'm going to tell something. And I want to know your point of view

because only I've heard this, it's the second that I

know, the first I'm the person with a person I want to understand and give the context

to the people. This occurs when our protagonist had 10 years approximately. More or

less than at the years of the year. She was in the state of Mexico.

In a colony a quite tranquilla mentioned that her

name Brenda. Brenda Brenda lived on side of her family

of the family but had a peculiarity this amigita that

had. Brenda was a child of parents of profession medicos

specialists and they had a situation economic a lot of that she knows

that she had even she said that her friend brenda had a collection

of barbys quite great that occupied almost a

pard and repisas from those most collectionist collectionist

so so she she unfortunately the part this

story I was much to to play to a house of Brenda because I'm going with all the

mukees had the houseitas had a lot of things and she said I don't

have a she said she she has mention that only only had I'm

that not were originals then so all the time I was to go

to her to play with his mukees pass something because he said

they're just that they're in back she he has to

see and when he will be to see her friend, the one of

the one of the way he and he started to get he's

in a situation where I'm that he had much a school

was was more I'm probably not not not

she she was she and she was she

she she She mentioned something very common in people that are living something that are very very strange.

They're absentes. No, they're not this desire or this animo to do something,

preferring they're in an kind of a sort of depression. So, he went

to notar in these days that she was she was that her friend had in

his arms like like, I don't know, how they

know how they or like... Yeah, like the serations leves? Ah, exactly. So, then I got in the

arms, even in the part back of the back of the and the and then there was a moment where

he said something that he didn't because they were little, but he said there's a little in my

court that I can't say to that's all what they did. So she thought

she was more more problems with her family because if the the I mean, I don't

I don't anything but... But in other things. His parents always

were always were in absentes and more okay. Yes. She said, she thought

she was more for that was the side, what was she was so it

was a time that was in the house, that was in the house of her

and he started her to discuss with his papas. But what

he called the attention is that Brenda her amiga,

Peleando with her mom, her mom he does a boffetada and she he's

a little that's a so, something to get to the boffetada, she mete his papa

and she gets to be, but he can't see how hegrey to his

father. So, it was a kind of was a different. Passed

the time she said well, I think I'm going to go to come to come

to to play to It's even though it was an illusion to go to his house and have

many people and it's where it's where it's where it's the 25 of December it was the

seven of the morning. This this is the story, she's up a see a

big a little on the night and all to do know it's that for

first every time he's he's they're a movie original.

Wow. So, so it put very very the first what does

is to to her her friend he's out of the house

because literally live at the door, to talk the time, he's

the father of his friend and he said, he's a dormida

but be, let's get, let's get used to the little time

were there were there were am amigas and it's when she was up the

escalers and for not enter as much to turn the perilla very

and open the door when when When I open the Puerta, she

makes emphasis. This, nobody me will be able to say, but they're all the

barbies, the more of 50, they were in their camera. No,

they were they're at a azar. They're they're they're they're

they're they're and they even one's they acariceable with his

manitas and others were like they were I see, I'm

paralyzed in the door, looking how he cariciable the stomach, the brazo, but she, the amiga,

Brenda, was there was always with the eyes but completely in trance, was like,

was like, with the mind, in that moment, she said, she, she,

she, she, she, when she, when she opened more the door,

it, it's, it's, like, in the films that we've seen

that it's like that's like they like they're like they they're in

when she see that literally imagine imagineate the scene this this little that she

she'll goreying and goriending to the house so so that was the impression

because he said he's he's going to see how they're moving these

these he's got his money he's he doesn't even he doesn't to

recuging her and she me never had to have mukees

any of plastic, nor no other type of other type of other type of other type of

the time. The house of Brenda kept a and the people said that they had

had been muded. Nobody didn't know where they were to get

the necessary and even they're even they're certain abandoned for

much years. And she mentioned that even with the this is he's he's 25 years he has

intended to find a his friend for their socials and never he doesn't know what

he passed they've passed the years but you know that's the most

she's she's she's in an adult but but she

passed the years and now that that's me so

because my my little my he said simply mom

for favor, Saca the mokees in my court, but no

me he, simply he wants to get to get to get them.

So, I'm not, no, it's that is that is the record

of when saw the the scene my man. It's a be

there, there is a person. Disupem me if they're

so so I'm very technical but my work, you know

you know is that the psychies of a person can be

traumatized a generating memories remotes and things like. The concept for her yeah,

yeah, and he's going to his wife, no? The concept of having this

herencia, many times outside, it's a man, the man,

this is a maldition heredade no, o'clock with that, there, can be

there can't have catalyzators or interruptors with a first a first thing of

a person that is father today. is that person that's a person who talked about this story

with her about the animation of the mokees around the friend in a state of a child.

So, imagine in the image of that she was a little bit perturvated and then with a muke Barbie

that was to show to her so why you think she she said yeah I'm no anima version of your

moñego I don't want this problem that is that effect dramatic is a

raigated in totally in your memory. And even we're not we're not we're not

we're to talk about our kids for some about the information that's important. Sure.

Although I not you not say I'm talking about my my if I know,

if I don't know and I get a man and I don't have a lot of what

I've lived a very, there is something that it has been with my

memory. Because at final of the day are my genes too. And

And there we enter in a theme of genetic. But not it's a only because I'm dedicated

to what I think it's a more than is a genetica if it's transpol my psyche, apart of my

psyche, the psyche, the psyche, the kids. For that our children are so they're very

to us. And for so they're even modisms, this, forms of the life, things

very similar. Gestos. Sure, to his parents. That's, that's generica

pure. Because if there's an interrupter of those concepts and why the child recalls for the medium of an object

that you not want to have to be in your situation, then it's for his mom.

Or something something that's where the investigation paranormal. Because one,

it can be the explicable at a level scientific as you do,

or two, we have to have attention base to the the child that you

view, to the the child. Exactly. Because that today you know

I don't want to have any one that's and it's where we have we need to we're

there's a question of the father's maybe one of the investigator or one like a

investigator and it's caravar but... It's your little that I'm parted that your

daughter let's get to get to some it's like the career that

I get a year and just I'm getting the people know we we're

going to keep a a little. Aguant in barra, because they're being so so easy.

So, are many so many of people. So, so it's a carion. So,

are many stories. I mean, I'm a message because I want to know what you

and the things and the things and the people. So, so I'm just waiting

a response of that person, but so I'm to talk about a case, that's

a vehicle with a object just what we're going to start. Okay. Okay.

Here not not the thing of a a tricycle common and corrent of the

actually I don't say the market because even when we when we when we we're

like the market there like that's why they're making bad the publicity in those

three cycles it's a market very known in Mexico of that has

that has many many years in the market and that are specialists

in three cycles this is important because he gave the value the

the value that it passed in one of these programs of television that I participated in many years and in those which when we

we showed, we know the possibility to look to the designators or the engineers that structured that type of

jugets that is in the triclo and that they could explain why it's the case

called the polterge of the triclo and this is one of the classics that we have in the agency

Mexican of Investigation Paranormal. What What happened? A in the area, well, no it's not a

one of the department in the area of Rosa of the city of Mexico. Lamentably

they're a very very a very time. We're talking of a little more

of six a year. There was a species of a form type of pneumonia.

No resisted the he went to the hospital and there percy

the the , the other habits totally very

very wrayered as a mean, the mom recogied the child, he had to the

department, he'd change the uniform of the school to the normal,

and the little always ever to play. Approximately at the three

of the time, approximately it was one of these schools of

the horarios very complete, not the like a current of the schools

of the government that are four hours approximately. Here, to the children, they were in like a

so I'm a little bit of the time. The woman recoged the young and he had to his department.

The lamentable, the issue is that the child is that the kind of a very subitament.

Although the papas did the private to go to hospital, they were to have to

interned and in that in this internment lamentably It's pretty, very very strong for to be parents

young, to be their first child, for all what he gives in context this, this symbology

of a person so far as. In a first moment, the father more than the

mom and the man and the man and the tio were in the precise instant to be

thinking that is the duelo, the process of the woman, the she was very

apegated to the context of the new and what is what is what that is what is what you

do you need to a agency of a normal evidentently first were for the

psychologists the first their man they're all they're a very

very very so their process to be a process as a process as

so a little and have to get assimilating and accept

the the person just this disf as a

moment of the lady that no accept about that had had

his his the same the thing the great

difference is that everyone was that when me

expone the papa to have to talk because

I think I because I want to you interven

you to first man to I do that

the first forms to manifest of my that

that attention. No, me said, is that, we're we're going to we're going, no. No, no me said, is that

my spouse is the phantasm of my child, no, he said, the first forms of manifestation of my

son, were these. And I plan to, I get usually, I'm usually, I'm

at the time, to come in the house. Obviously, with the period of

our child, all is disequil. My in the trestesse and the and the most and me he said to

say that he was I'm like he he's in the endemone that you don't know

you're saying no you're not you're not we're so I'm sure that you do you do you

know I'm you're not I'm going to but I'm to know what I'm saying is that she said

she was that she was in her court of but how yeah if

With all those his jugets and those toys and those toys that's a

caroy meceder is a mucke of a little there's a little

mecedora and it's so both his abuel as we we're we're

a quantity of and a triclo okay and what was that was

usually the caro mecedora and how they're they're my spouse

every that I had to I was after after was a very

to find her and then you can't say to you know because I know I'm because I'm

because I know if you know you want to do you do more and I'm and she

and she and I said the first I said I don't you know I'm

I'm like I'm my my spouse was affected Sammo I mean I'm

so I'm I'm clear that there's the negation first And very well, because

two persons engaged in a same concept, no help. So if it was a piece of this chick, this form of, the father, no, a little frio, even, I can't say. And he, the terrestrial, I said, no,

a bit, wait, is part of the process, you have to de-pegarten, we're, we're, so. So, they're, they're, you know, you know, you know, so it's your process,

you need to calmart, you have to relaxate and you're trying a sparsiment mental for that you get to getcha. Well,

for those those are the most cancats, the chick was really and perjured that she

had been, and she was in the role of what I'm how I'm I'm going to I'm going to

my my mother for this no? So, is a thing very

very important. And in this process in this Dimisidiretes he's he said he,

yeah when it was because in the madrugada of a time we're in

this thing that my husband always sure and I've had seen

and had heard and I've heard a lot of time. They were approximately

about four or five months after that was when they were when they was

when we said yeah the most canion is when we're to come

to the three and three and four of the morning a person

and me talk very very very very very apartment. I live in the part, Dicel, the part in the middle of the

building. So, the the, the, the bestino, to come. And then, so, what's, what? So, no, I mean, that's, that's even the timbre, no? Sure.

Or, say, he's all right? I'm sorry, and, honestly, we don't know to know anyone, we know the prea of our child. I'll say, Antonio, that all suede

in the hospital of the hospital, we're transferred the body to the funeral and the funeral area

and the never he went to the new my my wife my don't know

to be this he said he said he said oh yeah tell to do you

do you do you don't fregues no manches and you he's

he said he he said he he's I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

he said what I'm you say you're reclamando me. Hey, no is possible.

I mean, I'm trying I'm doing this job at the other day, blah, blah,

blah, blah. That all not only only the vicino of the but in the vicino

and the other than the mecedora. And see and it's. And, and they said they were

imponent because it was like when he was he was a time, with the

person of a car a mecedora but here was more more in the silence

rebotable. And we're talking three of the morning, it's all quiet. Yes, and there are some regals

very energic in the condominious and so, well, yeah, who I'm in the department,

know of what that's, that's a thing, yeah, it's a thing, but well,

but well, total, what's that's the and I'm said, I'm I'm quite frio,

and it's, and it's, and if, if you, he's been to be my spouse, one of

one of Tessas before those, I'm, And then, well, it was, no well, it was, to be to be in the room. He was in, the

quarter was intact. And the doctor, psychologist, they say, they've been to desapegars. If you're not to have another baby, if

already are to be in the duel, that that's the abetation need to clasurar. It's,

no, they don't have any reskissue more of the record of him. And they

said the doctor, and that's friating and it's so you have to depegarten how eliminate all.

So, he's that after that this sensation so rarer and I'mpece to getrard and geth

all we're we're subed to a apartment that we're in the part of the room that's a

part of the apartment and this and like I'm going and I just I don't know

I did the intentionally because I'm because I don't know because I never came because I

didn't I said, no, you're well, what's what's what's what happened then? I mean.

And I'm how you what you did? A your little to do?

Yeah. A see. I said, two rhetorikas. Paco, when I

start the rhetorical is when I'm trying to try to get to get to people.

It's so, of all what you readiro with other concept.

And I ask with another thing that has to do

with the case. I did what and one of the two me

he said me said I'm saying what he was what he he went he went he went to

the he was he was affected for all the context that he had

had done with the and with the case of the administrator and he

he had and he got of saying what I do

what I do you do so I regrece more or less than 2.45, almost 3 of the time. Orario specifically that had succeeded the

actual. The child the child with her mom between 2 and 4 at the afternoon. At a point, for that is important at the hours,

in point at the 3 of the time in the development of the game, he met to his quarter of the games and used to his gubetes.

Ojoe. Orario specific. Lever. Lever to see a to her because also he said,

what is my woman is a not if my really is a little bit to know

if she was talking a toy or the other, that the same the same

doctor he said, you have done you to supervise to your family that not

that's enganching with an object for that we're talking of the

engagement of the object yeah the the unerance of the

also with what he's doing okay total that he

he gets I did noise I went and before to enter to enter to the

reojo big in the silhouette of my his said I am going to I'm

quietit I said I said I said in pacitos so per leves and I

go passing for one of the passios and I see to my my

little and I see I'm I'm getting no no no no no of

reoho me I'm I'm turned to where He was like, I was the silhouette

and I put chinito, chinito, chinito, and he said, it's a friote, was aterrowered, was emotional, was, because I did then if he, he'll be,

and he's disappeared. He said, he goes to the silhouette like, how it now he said,

possibly it's part of your process, eh, awas. No, no, no,

Antonio, I was to catcher to my spouse, that not to give us posse in your room

and you is when they're no, there's something there's I'm

met to the computer to look investigators paranormal and I get to you know

what we do we because we have evidence I mean I'm I said

okay we have we're we're we're we do this we're

you know I'm authorize that you do you need to talk to talk to

what is what is the point in what moment we're partying of who is seeing what

and who is engaged more. One, to dis-vinculars obviously can be a one single

once that has succeeded a phenomenon for a normal Paco, and base that's, everyone

starts to say that is to be to all all over all of that. Total that

we did we did we did we did we're we're we're not I don't see if

I'm remember two several nights and in one of those

nights I I'm going to try to try to to find out an evidence more contundent

no it's more than more than really psychophonies not even psychphonies okay

they're like really very basic like rudet like the department I honestly

I'm I'm not I know I know I know a wordet or something

that's something something that we're just we've been detected is that the focus

of a of a a jugete-and-a-dard of these that they're on the chavitos and that have lucesitas, that have run-itats, and that's and they're empooking with his piernas, he had foquitos, and it had to be on-cendia and it's apaguer.

We got to think that it was a effect literally-electronico and that not properly signify to that that's, after that one of those nights, the

parents us say, oh, yeah, we're to do you, let's do you, do you, but, this, well, how we we do we go

no I need I need to that someone of you need to be there's the child that's a

brother of the the child okay well no it's the one is the parents because I

was that the parents were present because the because the link was with

the part of the so the manifestation so that the manifestation is

that's a point where we we're there is there there

even we we Hypothesis, all the person that's a person that's a

natural for a normal has to be a catalyster for us. In that moment, we're

the tisufed. The Tio was done, at the final I was going to talk about to what he's. The Tio

renuente, a pallas, or even us, and we'd be like, and we're practically, he said, you're why

are you? Well, well, we're not we're not we're not we're we, we're

we're just for the only the only that you give is that no us storves in this investigation. Yes, yes, no, no, no problem.

Not just that I'm not, but I'm not, you know, d'clock. We're in that then, we'll look us monitors, my friend, we'll, we'll, we'llocamas, in those, then we've got cameras minidev, with sensor of movement, we've got

sensors of movement that not were implemented in the cameras. Oh, oh, today existen cameras with sensor of movement implemented. Yeah.

Before, you know, a sensor of movement apart, and it was a sensor very tenue, I mean, I don't I could perceive the

movement of a moscow could perceive mass masses corporal so forthes so it

was in front the sensor and sonaba an alarm what is what they are going to hear

at continuation what what is what is what we what we

what we did we we're we we're we look cameras in the circuit

of the quarter of the There are there's there are little there's there's there's little

there's a there's a there's a mecedora that's the that's the that's the guy

mecedora and there is one of these these and they had fogitos

like all the all the nights that we putting and you're

putting the intercler how it's move the movement

zero a movement regular but if they can't in

those the how she manage. It's that's a

way to be a intelligent. It's not, no, no, this.

It's that it's not no, no. Manubri starts

to move and and it and he to be a pedaleer. No,

it's probably, it's a way, the movement of a pedal.

And it's how it's to be to be getting to

when the of the alarm. And the sound of the alarm is what they've seen in the

screen. Okay. They're seeing the movement of the object, and for consient you

are seeing the reaction of the man. For that they say in the mother, and

he's going to get to gore. Because this is very important, not only only for

having the testigo there present, Paco, but because also the the proper testigo

is the vehicle with the object. What is what what happened there.

I don't know to see my investigator nobody that the triclo

he had gave he had had been there had a there's a very

we're in other occasions in this department looking phenomena paranormal like other

nights in this night we're we're we're so much but

we're they're with the two perspectives because one the

one, the I can I have a angle totally of testigo. We're we're always

we're in a man. What we do we do with a camera in man. Trace a

camera in man and the camera that will function like the investigator. It's

two or three cameras for that that camera in man at testigo is what they're

doing in those they're in those they're going to say oh,

I say Samudio because with a technology they're a pinche monitor

like because in of that... 2006, we know we're doing televisors

of that time. But, but then so they're so much noise because they're in

circuit of the alarm and for so there's three tomas. The take the camera that detect the

movement of the tricyco, the time of the place where we're not we're not we're not

those two there and we've been one third person that is the that's the little fuscado

and the top of the monitor for that's it's like the time like a monitor

and that's it was a imagineate, that's what we know, it was what we had to the man,

no, no, not it's not like it's like we don't know, it's like we don't know,

and they're in television no, no, and even to get the evidence.

There's the evidence I'll say a thing, I said a thing, yeah when we

started, very affected, I said, I think it was a thing that was a tonteria my

my brother and my cune are so frenetic with the prea of my subrino he said but

so I do you do you know so much so now so we see how

now in this context not is that the tricylo is posseid

not is the object that is the spirit of the the

thing because occurred all is that is that I'm like I'm

bombarding but occurred all two 45 and 3 and the

morning. For so the hours are very important is Bacco. In three those

hours, the child he and get in the hospital and in the hospital falle.

For the child, it was to the school, to get with her mom,

it was he had to come in your house, and before the food

to get to get to the four, four and the time, he,

he was what was what was what our perspective is the engagement of the new with the cotidianity of the

game. But it's inviates in the horaries? The difference is that the kid is that he was going to

unconscious to the hospital. So his sick is to get to his house like all days,

he had her mom of the and she went to a room to get to not can't

to be that the the man's simply came fell in the

no man so his And what happens and he gets trapped in a space of time? It's,

it's a trapado we're in space of time. No, we'll do you

know, we're doing. Point important rapid to conclude. The company of those

three cycles, I'm going to say, the company Apache in Mexico. And in that then

we called to me a televised to say, oh, but why are they're saying this

and I'm oh, perfect. Could give us an explanation of how

is designed the tricyclo with what peso would have to exercise the tricycle for

to be able to move? And the engineers us opened the door and said this

this triclo not so can move for impugn only so what you're seeing

in the video had to have had had been a little about approximately

three five seven years for that the person for that the person and the triclo

advanced o'clock data scientifics the surface is a alfarmac of the usurdu the amphibus

are asper yeah no so with a impugon a levy no it's not going to move.

Justly they're going to you're going to so two, the chants of tricyclos are made of plastic

plastic that usually is on the alfumbras for so they say the engineers has to

have been a piece and one of you said and he went through So that that was

moving to the thing had to have been in the three-siglo it's

it's he's he moved he moved the manubri and moved the padels no manches

and for us it's confirmed it's confirmed because they're confirmed because they're

with things of the project of the design of the thing

wow fiatte that that that that situation me It's

a much the attention. It's an excellent case Samud,

and you thank much for the evidence. Because just we're

about the object that vincula with the child or how the

little about the there. There's a child that's a chica that's

all this comes when she when she her, her, his husband and

his son to move to a house in San Christo

of the that the house was of madera that had a grand garden and they used

a space very an space very much for the community and it was a opportunity

that they were not they had a good location a good price and so

about the enthusiasm to start in a new in a place different

is what there would be this experience to live better

she me He has this commentary that is very important and you do you

know never had shown that's a child that would have been people

and that is a man who for his 11 years never had had

had the game imaginative and you imagine you you know you're a

soldier but not you don't talk he he never had

done this no no nocturn or a a little

pretty, you know, normal, if you want to be so you're not this type of

situations. For what a month after that they're moving, started this type of

situations. The little he went to say, a second after

a mom, in the house, he's called Ruben, he

doesn't to play with my toys. But I don't because always

they're always they're more than to say, that a little

is me he's like to like the like it's like it. The

reclame is that I'm a quick I'm a question. The real real thing is

saying that is saying that he's saying oh yeah no no no no an an

friend no no there's there's no no no there's he's my

stuff my his stuff he's he's right exactly and he's the

name you know that's he's she's she she she's she she people who have professions,

then they're not in the theme paranormal. He says, my spouse, my husband, he's got to, I don't know to respond to.

Simply, like, like we give a response a rather random. And so, he's, no,

well, he, he, he, he'll, or, or, so, something.

So, so, so, they're passing a lot of things, because she says that menudo, and here

it's repite this, in the madugada, she heard pass swathes

like when when you can't without about the foot but you but you

you're how you you're so you know she's she's thinking

that she was going to go to the room enter and the

little he's probably but I've to hear how

the track of the the person someone passing

with the walking with the feet Now, the temperature of the quarter of his

always was very free. He's said that all the house, the place, the time in the time, it's a lot,

but that in the room of the room, it was always was very and that the little he liked

to pass there the, the necessary because there was something that he always had to

be able to start in his now. Now, he's, here, he went

to the more And he said, he commenced to say, his son, that this man called

Ruben he had a need to his mother, that his mother he's in the

armory, that a time this this new Ruben is that he said that his

mom he said, he said, he has he has noja and he he lastima

with a malo of he, he started a description this supposed a child

to the child of what what was what was that and how suffered the maltreato, that's all this.

And she'd continue to say, one and other once, of where came all this? My son, my son,

my son, he's never of this. Sure, sure. But here it's a unusual because

she's the mom, be a this man, be a little, he, said, I'm a night very agotable,

a day, a day, a day, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you're,

you're, you're, you're, you're all. how is that's so she

started that I in a posse like when you're very agotado

and he he started to feel paralysis of the he says when I can't

move but I'm moving all my room be all the room

and is when I was when I was I was I'm in a

corner in a old roba so I'm so I

see that is like of other times, the pale palida, he had the stature of my child, but

his mind was very strange. He said, his mind was a kind of strange, like if

not were of this world. He says that he was walking, and he's a little to where he's

and he says, he'll be my mom? Wow. He said the question and he says

is that my mom no me want. And it's when she see that that And then she brusically to

to care to start. And if she, the despirta his husband, that says, oh, yeah, you're doing

very feo that you're saying that's he had a one of the and he he's, he said,

the little, the little, he said, he said, he said, calmate, it's the can't be,

yeah. So, so, so, so, so, so, well,

well, so, well, so, the, the, the, yeah,

the, and the, the, the, yeah, the, the, room,

all the time, all the time was the situation of the situation of the thing that he was in it's a lot

more more more than the little, the little, he's going to get a house of some time, and she

says, I'll approach to clean to do you need a little bit of there's a lot of the

stuff, then she then she gets to clean all the kitchen and and when she'll

move the camera encounter the carito of the carito of his he said

I'm me had said my my had said my So, what I do is, for inertia, I get it, like, the tapita,

let's take the two pilas that he has. As, as well, I don't have the pilas new, well, I don't know, like, to change-selas. I put the tap to the car no,

and I'm going to clean the quarter. It's a little for when my son, I'm going. That night, Samudio, being the last between three and four

at the morning, he'll listen that same carrito in the passillo. Well, So, and I said, I'm

so I'm and my husband, this time that is the sceptic, the that's he's the

time, he was still him, he was he's he, and he said, and he

said, yes, if I'm so I'm so, he said, but parate. Like he

he didn't want to say, no, no, so, so, so,

so, parate, so, He said, me took to par with him. We were the two.

We were the door of our room and we we're going when the carrito is passing in front, it's detain.

It's detain in front of us. And if I felt like the heart, I'm exploded. Sure,

with all the fear, because my husband says, no, he said, no what I'm I'm going to

the car, and I'm effectively, like I was no, there was pilas. God,

that night not do you know doormen no doormen and they get in their

room and and the day next all desveled and she she's

a a company of the person who who can he recommend a chaman

of San Christobal he says there is there is a spiritism to behes platicable

let me go to he goes to do he's a car and the sir,

since that he gets to the house, he's like a

gesture of that here there there energy so in things

in the moment he has the question you like, you

say and she yeah and he said let me two hours

I'm I'm to do what what me correspond the

he he's he he's working he out a

lot a of things. Termina, he says, yeah, he's a yeah,

your house is a lot of that's a little, blah, well. He says, the truth

is that the house yeah was a lot of the room, the room of my

house, yeah was normal like to do that the house. But

two months after his his his said again

that the little had regress and he said he said

that said that the sir only he's only he said,

he came a man and he's but I know he but I'm okay

but I'm saying cintia who is who we do the mother of the child that

she said that she did the armory of the court of his there

had like wheyas like of manitas but that a mann't like if

was like there's that they get the there's there

there for under the armario oh car and

his his He he said, simply, Mom, I'm afraid, because Rubin he never

he never and he now wants, no, he wants a mother, he wants, you know,

what I'm what I'm preoccupy? Falts two months for that I have a my second

his. So, then they do you know, to make the house that practically had been

months, to have been San Cristobla is a a house that until the day

of the day of the day of he's a little bit he's a house that is a matter and

we're going to get in imagine that's a imagineate that we're yeah we're because

this is two months wow it's something it's a could be something

like the collectionist of almas that is a classificator of phenomena that we

have done we're a race of spirits that yes vinculate with the

carency of the they're in the case, as far as about as a woman,

and for the connection that has a straighter with and he's to say, he wants to say,

you know, he can interact with, those are the most dangerous. Is that imagineate

that you see a mom, that he see a man, and here we don't

we're we're, we're about, we're just, we're to be, is that it's

something about, Paco, because much people is that we're talking about

So, for to get them all. The vinko is the vinko is the vanguard. A bit,

the object in the symbology of you, Paco, I'm going to what you at your

at your right? At this you're a friend of the family. Now,

what symbolize a for you? For you. I'm connected with my

my child. Exactly. It's to say, the that I'm that I'm

that I'm that's, what is what is what is what I'm what I'm what

I'm now imagine See, what would you would be in a new a

a little a game, and if that game is that intermediating for

me of a spirit? That is the case that you're going to talk to see. A

see. This case is the has the world to the world,

not only in this time, but in other times

in other times in television, particularly television in the case of who

who plays with who. We put the well

I put to the case for the symbology and the phenomenon that's in this

object. You know you know is the palazzo posseye. I've seen, but

no know I know the case. Well, here here I want to

talk. For so I said the vincol for so that we've

been that we've been done that because we're going to understand in the case

my, they're going to understand a more more I'm

and how is that I'm classific phenomenology with the actions, okay?

So, for so we're about the vincal of an object that's the game, in the case of the story that

we've got to talk. In this case, it's a object, that's simply a new

a gust of 18 years, Caso 2006 also. Let me say to all the people that

that don't the time, between the 2004 and the 2010, we've been auch tremendous,

of the cases, to take cases of all type. And in that was not was

so great the internet or not we're not we're so enclavos in the

internet. All the via telephonic or via directly in a email

electronic, uniquely to call electronic and we're the pertinent to make

a case. So 2004 to 2010. There's a great difference even of

different technologies in the years. We're talking of six years where

came you all, all the scheme but well us says

my my son is a form very strange. My

his right of to buy a manned in a event of

the garage Antonio changed the thing. The most

tremendous of is that this thing I want

I want to be telephal okay where they

are direction that when can when you want to you

want to you have time of one of

one and we we went. When I When I'm the first time with the parents, the parents me say,

I know what happened. We were a vented of garage. My son- took the object. It's the monkey that's being in the

pantheas. I'm sending photographs to the production of Paco. And it's a mano a incocient

very old, very very. It's a series of payasos of the time of the

70s. We're talking of a sepigin. Oh, no, has nothing to be

with the person that's they be more than the form. Sure. Or with that, because that's it was a

distinction. Because also they were in some moment. When it was in television, they were in a goody

a bit more a little bit of I was a fan of the I was a kid I was a man, I was a man,

so in one occasion in the forums me says, then you am you're doing a bad promotion

with the case of the pallas he? Who, who's, who can't to bring

mojek wherever that's he can't. Well, total that's

of the series of the series of but it's not a series of the new people.

Okay, they're clon. They're clones. They're clones. So, this new series, you know,

the people see, the people, see, the pinion took a circus, and there

a grand tour of Cepin and in the circus afuerra and they're these and they're

as well and they're that you the truth is that for me even is a reliquia I'd say, Salus to Matt Hunter Die of Matt Hunter

does a good relicke bro, no? The truth is that is but what is going in the

moeco is different because there is a vinculating with a spirit well

Augusto he in a vented in a 2005 2006 he's

he he comes he doesn't he he doesn't once the for the

Papas, okay, Comprasel. Well, okay. A bit, but it's a muco a man, it's a mucco

feo. What do you with this man? No, I know. I'm, I don't know. I mean,

I need, I need, I need to imagine. For us, for us if it's like, it's strange,

but we're we're not in this environment, me we're in this terrain. But one person, like, oh, well,

okay, and he'd be to be getting to start to start, oh, yeah. He'll

to buy a muneco, he'll get to the house and says the young, the

when he's the house and I'm a little. Ambient we're we're nojavs

very rather than us. The behavior of Augusto started to change

rotundamently so it is to see, it would be in a kid or seven

years, even to say you're you're you're you're you're not you

no, but no, but no me important, I want my my my monkey,

and the other yeah like were a a new. Well, it was a one of

11 years. That's not properly is a little bit of other type of games, no? Yeah,

yeah, he's going to the puberty. Videojews and things like, so, no.

For him, it was like, it was like, I don't have planned to any, no, any program

of me, I'm still playing with because that is another peskiss for us for us

that we're that's how the kind of tergiversar even the reality of a person

with the object. You can to be like a influence totally.

So, so a good so he's a kind of

like a little like a little that's that I'm that I know,

that I'm going to but in that time that was it was he was very

very very very very I'm a moment in that I think

the people okay well yeah now yeah now

he's or labe been been in the basura because it

has been very very very very Augusto no is preended to the

moke to get a school to get to get a little bit of and the woman

don't see he has extrano things that said to say she said I mean

I think I think I'm forget the because I'm a

Augusto I'm sitting in the chair in the chair of the

table and I'm I'm I'm back and I'm

back and I said I just that even I'm So for the people that not an issue

a paranormal that not conscientize for them even that can be of the other is normal because they're

my memory. It's the most important when was when was my mario and all

was based that was the muke present where where it's not present in the enugated

and we we don't we don't we have problems we we have problems we're

a a parent a family Total that I She says, she says When I receive a

my marid usually I receive fulsively When I was the molyco present me was to like

to receive it Okay Are you? Some things that I'm I'm Oh, thanks

I'm not I've talked about because for me not they didn't all the

piece more than the video when I when it's the case of Augusto a man

a man who this is the evidence this is the no more. In other programs, it was like, yes,

the case of August, with the muke, who's, point. Here we're doing

all the details, my. So, I said, I, yeah, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, like, I'm, and I'm, okay, and I go,

and, and why you're, so, so, so, so, so,

so, you said, that he, he said, to, he, that you could talk

that manoe because August he was to get to get to be

and he he said something he's something he said something he's never was a

man, qualifications excellent, excellent, well being portadito and all of the

and he started, what on with Augusto how it was after and how it was

then then he he said he changed I'm rotundament but before

before was a new normal friends, amigas, very sociable, very educated,

never was a bad with his brother. All right of the man. In a

first moment we said, well, it's part of this is an thing that is an

object, no, it's normal. Until that the Papa me says,

I get in one of those occasions tard to the house.

Yeah we had problems with a gusto for

the fact that the muneco practically was as a part of the family or he

wanted to integrate it to the family. I remember much in the episode in the

first that did you did he did he a moment in the moment in they were

doing or they were doing to get a custom usually they're

to the the cintura the the the the

is an Alamber that's you've said you know to say it you're you're

and the and the pastes are very deteriorated has a kind of of this

like like a likeodon like fibras agonos but and recubriety

with traps a final he's a mucucing of a trapo he has a plastic and point

a cabriera so then Augusto he said that practically he was practically he was

he was he was see, I've seen extraos that they said, but is

that Augusto for example, you know, for example, you know, he's

to get to that he's that he's that's a succession of a videohue with

his arm and the competitors, the you want, you want, to do you want to

do you do that's absento he's absento, he said the papa one

one of a night I'm yeah too and I pass for,

there two we're going to have There are two Abitations. The abitation

the is the of the house. The room is the of August

and the man. Miento. The room of the is the cell

a commedor I remember a excuse. The cell a room and the

room is where are the room. But the room that's

the room in the windows is the and the and the one of

all all all he's he said, I pass

for the passie Entrar for the house, and there are two divisions. The entry of the cell, Comener, Cucina, and the entry to the room. I pass to the area of the Sotewela, and I hear you and see it, and I see a-gust.

Samud were like two and a half a minute. No, no, they were to be able to be able, no, they were that hour. Well, it was so strong the monitor that was heard all the roodoole, because no there was no channel. And I said, how do you have to do these chambos? So,

he's that in the window, when he he was when he he's

he he's to be a gust with the and he and he and he

and he and he imagine the image. The moment is that perturbed and his

brother and his nothing with the noise atop I'm I'm

I'm I'm so I'm and I'm a gust perid with the mind

to the Augusto Augusto Augusto And his Papa he gritted No he over-salted

No, he's nothing The only that was to look to look to see right

and I'll go to the television this that I don't

I did you know I was I'm I was I'm in trance the

image was absolutely aterrador the papa me said it's when

me preoccuped and what he he's what he is what

he's you are honest Antonio I said he's he's he's he's

he's I'm going to all the whole what he had succeeded and the mal-stair

of the and the he said I did he he went to to go to the those

those the what you do it's my you know you don't

you getas things so we we're we're two and three

of the two and manches am They said, Desperta my spouse, it's a

start to my wife, and all we've talked to be not even for the stories enrogated.

Oh, thank you. I'm talking and I'm talking about that they're like more a more

trosfondo of all, that episode. That episode, I remember that me said, the two

father and mother, because he said, enter to the person and he says, what's

so, so, why they're playing, blah, blah, and he said,

entro in a state alterado, all the husband, looking how he'll play

the Papa with Augusto the he's, calmate, calmate, let me see. The wife

the wife he's over here. Sweltal, and so and then the brother, he's a

person, he was a influence, and the muke, fiatte, he said the said the

he said the father, I gotroged and it the monkey, the man, when he says

all we enter in a species of reclame I'm a gust of lamenting glottes

rasgoonias me mordia my his mom from the from me like it's like

no say you know you don't you don't you don't to talk

the mom because he's dyinging the he said that in a moment they're in a

he went to to the to the same the same car of the

television where was August and the moosec, being the

television. No, man. He said, I vented this muke. I mean,

I felt the head to the man. And the courage to get to the

cause. How he got to the monitor? He said that in some point,

in this strago, we're going to put in that version of stress excessive. He gets

to have to be calididididid, says, silence, so but very

and all so like like they're in so in some

so in some they're in space and his reality

was eno to be in the moment when he

let's come let us let us get out of the court

they're to go to the apartment to to the part and

in this moment he I began to almost

he he retired of the space and of a palazzo.

Is that of the quarter, those were in the room, and in that moment.

That's what happened before that we're going to all this is the details of those the ones

of the times we don't we're okay. Well, what, circuito

serrated, man. For me it's important to have everything, you know, the

evidence, you know, you have to circuiter in all sides. Is saying, if you're

saying, here you're going to be the passage tall, you're in cameras, you're

because during the process that I'm talking about the family can pass any quantity of things.

Because also the catalyzator is a gusto, because there's the object.

Well, before of that, the mama me said after that after the preitto,

all we came between my husband and we said what? To what what's

to us the mucco. Antonio, yeah when, I know, no, it was to pass other things more

for that we don't know. I said, I said the year, I said, I said, I said,

all the time, all the person, I said, you know, we're, we're,

we're going to, we're going to a box, and tomorrow so I'm going to do the basura. To do,

do the other day they went in the school, as they were, all all, all,

all, they're all, we'll, let's this in pass, the she said,

I'm going to try to this man, and I'm I'm going to put in a box and he

did the barrendero. The barrendero he said, he's this tirelo is an object that's

a suce is more he said, he's chinches a no, no. To the and he's

I bico the evento three days after the manned to pay the the camera of course

no manches that that is that is no manches I said, in serious? Because I

know I'm a little the microlation of the object and what segregate like the co-emotion.

For the right, I'm going to explain all the final all. Well,

for you is here when me, me, I'm all this thing,

all this I'm doing doing, I'm doing flashback. All this is all this

we're talking, we're not we're not both two abitations, the apartment of

the the Sal, Cometor, Cucina where we're we're

we're we're we're talking about the part of the apartment

of the room and the other that's the room is that

all the all they're at the same in the right so

I'm I'm called I'm back on the barred I'm even

I'm to say I'm I'm because is important that because I

want to hear the performance and the object yeah they've

been have talked to the catarsis and the crisis that had succeeded. During these processes, I

am doing interviews and they're doing all the time my investigators or my cameras. Point. Mandan to

do not turn to all this was before that the young. Even there's there's an scene in the

which I show to the moose. I'm on the camera. I'm I'm going to show and

I'm doing this We're going to We're going to We're going to Revising the equipes Is what

they're seeing In those Panthers The muneco I don't I had in my Campo of vision during

the process of the interview. At the final of the interview when yeah

we're almost about at four in the morning approximately I'll say why I'm going to

say okay this So I'm two and a minute to the morning I want

to know if it's going to almost he said to the So, no me entregers the

mokees the man to a good so you do you do you do you know, you're

normales for that the kids don't see those when we we're going to see the

context to say yeah we're going to you know you're in the capularies

and so like if you were maniatated you know you know I'm

obviously I don't do you like as well as you were maniated because

I had to make the analysis investigation I had to put in cameras, I need to know what on with the arm of the Alamber.

All of that, so I'm going to and we'll give you and we'll give us like, okay, thanks. I, the truth is that neither is that

I got there, the caja, I saw the and I got and then the video, they were in their movements

of a point zero to a movement regular. The muke no's not tenue, it's

incorporated, and it No, man. But, but is, Ojo, it's, but I'm

trying to, I'm trying the explanation of the movement very much because the moanek

so he even is encorva and go to the court of August.

I'll say something. With the pass of the time, with this context,

I would say that still in investigation. No tend a conclusion

a conclusion or a theory a contundate. Sin however,

me clear that the vincal emotion between Augusto and the

moeco can be used is intermedied for a spirit. Is

that is not the the manned but the is the spirit. The

that the that he manipula. Exactly. The that can manipulate

to the people that are that are that they divide. For me that

has been more more than the video that is the video of

that is trying to understand what you want the spirit,

the entity. Because he wants in that a nuclear in that family? In that family?

Exactly. More there, o'clock, he's impressioning the video. I've

said, you have done the world. In serious, my and he has been a history channel,

Discovery Channel, in all the other lives. It's one of the videos that has defied

to many to many and me defy me too. I can to give us an

explanation of why the movement that contundent even in the close-ups that's

done in the recorried to be even like if you look at you know that just

you know that just it's the thing that it's not it's not you know there's a

thing you're like you're to be the part of the intention The spirit, what type of spirit can be?

For that's the case is called who's in. Exactly. Of course, even many out there are not used.

No, chisto. You know, one thing, no, I'm occupied my idea. No,

because the idea is diffundirlo. But, to be many people have put to the palazzo posseid,

the palazo that's a move alone, the muke, because that maybe the clit-be for them

for them for them they're saying, hey, but why who's who who works with the

context? Of course. Augusto And he was a palazzo or the palazzo or the

guy's with him. Fugate that I'm to finish Antonio and you want to thank

very much. There's a time. That's the case we get so super rapid because

it's called The The Hylos never can't is the story of Damian,

a young of 10 years but I think that this case I'm

surprised much just just the case that you because this

he knew the time he called the attention the like any new normal

and I a fine in the town in their people where they put in

these these these these and he was his abuelas and see what he

looks a marionetta big of the eyes of these those that are

like of crystalito okay this a marionetta at final

you quite she he's he's his abuel and his

They don't even He'll He'll He'll He'll He'll and come and clients and

this boy He'll rob a marionette in a moment where nobody he, he he'll

he's he goes He gets to his house his parents they they're

who did no, well my my abelels me they're no

doesn't and it doesn't exactly like the case of the pyeasasas

the the the because it has the hils and has like this part where he has like that

it's like, I don't remember how it's like the but it's like the crosseta exactly. Exactly.

It's like the young is playing with the cruset and the titre of the marionette was moving

so. So the detail is that the parents is that the little that the

little bit of and he had to the room and he was in the camera sitting

normal and playing with the marionette. Something that is he did not

a final of the kind of he got to much the good

he wants to play all the time. The detail here is

that in one occasion the the little the man

and one night the and they get and when

they in the room when they are totally

totally at he's aterrador, he's trying, no say any a word only is

a signaled to a corner. Where is a marionette. And so he does the parents

of that the little had a little in his, in his in his and he

he said he, he said, me he started, how me he started,

these those the papas listen, he says, well, he gets the

he goes to the marioneta and he he left in the cochera. He'll

forget. So, it's no more. They're passing the nights and

the little he's to make to make how this pattern is going to

be repeated. The little has changed in their form to be in his humor

in all these characteristics and he he's to be more calli

the detail is that he in the night he mentioned to his papas

that something that then that's the majority he

he starts to or car, it's extrangular. Okay. It's going to

the day's and the little he's going to be more even the people,

he'll to be in the house, his his son, his he's

dorms in classes. The parents obviously are to be to be

and the papa a camera when not the little the

he's to be what is what is what is what is the

first night and the the little the because he he

he's he's a he gets a he received with a palo so the

then the he gets a mark of a palazzo that they did it in the brazo

okay well this is kind of he can't try to try to try to

and the father of he says give me give me chance revisa the cameras

when hevisa the cameras infurecated to go the fourth of

his he goes He's debaue of the camera, met the and he's a second his second son of

his name Tiago. How you is? He was he's about his and he

and he he'll he's in the video see how the little

he's in the room Damian and with a palo of he and he starts

he and he's and when he's he's he's he's he

he's he's in the man he's agarred the marionette. The marionette.

Wow. And what describes this family is that when the father enfurceded and he's a reaganer

to the little, the little absent. The fact, the father he got to the arms and

he's to get to and he says, why do you do you do you do you know,

but he started to get to exercise violence over him, enter to his wife

he said, calm you're going to lastime but the no reactionable even

after after after after a rata and he

he says he he mentioned that his he said he he said

and the he he says he says I was I was saying I was a

he was he was he he was he was he was he was he

he was he then then he's where they got

to this explanation precisely of that influence He was being influenced by that

by the marionette, for the titerre. Totally. What he did his father, was what I mean, I think, like, I think, like, he'd have been, in that moment,

he took the juget, it was a bottle of a black, he'll act, and it's, and he gets to to burn fire. Okay.

If you noticed, something very peculiar that so cede much with the fetches of brugheria, which is that when they're

that when they're a pesta. So, there's an an allor quite peculiar in this type of

objects. Wewele very bad. Semanas after the things change.

The children come in the new people. But Tiago, Tago started

to mention something. Because he says that he says, he says, that the

silo never can't they're simply can't they're in the man.

Wow. Wow. It's a thing. It's a manasas that they go to

for having to be here, what can succeed? I mean, I do. I mean,

objects maldits, is another thing that in some moment we're to have here in the

table, or in the two. In the two. Because what is what is what

does that an object could exerts a maldition over the people. Existen.

There are joys in the quantity I don't I remember the numbers exactly, but there

joys that are considered malditas and that these joys don't can be taught by nobody

there are that are considered malditas that in who are even even when

those women exactly and so and objects and objects and I always

I mean I said what I'm the same what I'm with the objects pre-ispanics

for example lot a lot much people of people they're so much and it

have to have to have to have to But if is vinculant with the objects.

An object funneb of a of a cemetery pre-Hispanical no do you

don't know you don't you have in your house less. Less you

hurtes. No, much less the profan urtando for the people,

the raciosinio of that person that were the ancient cultures

and did those altars funeberes with with base the intention

to put a a person that for them is a sum importance and that's that is

so that they're with animals with offrendas with a lot of

in other cultures even in other and they they're they're with all

their with all the entire China it's never this

not a legend that was based in a movie there there

there there is there there there there things of

grotescos, the Inca's, for example. So there's people that's very easy, Paco, to say,

me vendered a mummy in the Peru, there's a market negro of momias

incas. And they they're to get to their house, man, it's the

what they can do you know, under the intention of that person that's doing that

offering funnebr has been a kind of a context sacro for a

is it's a little a context of religion or of a context of devotion, that if you

you know you do you passas that's a barrera well imagine what it is the concept

is like also the concept is like you know you know you know you were an explanation

of for example when discovered to Takamon that the explorators they were but

maldiction? Or who who knows? Because there were things that in the momias and of the texture of the vendas

and all this roo, there were spores that they could kill. So, so it could be a

thing more scientific. Sin however, the accidents that were involved to those who were

in the excavation, then is the most curious, because there was people that didn't even even

didn't the discovery of the mobia and it's So, there is where you say, okay, like, for?

Exactly. What is what vinculal the object? Well, evidently, what is here in the object. The marionette

that you have said, this, I sound like a maldiction, never to rompene the sun, right?

Exactly. The context of the palaces posseid, that, more than of an object

posseid, is a man who he has a psychoemotion of enoho of ira, no,

and of how vinule strachament with a man, That's Fuerty, no? And other

objects more and like the object that I'm going to give. That's the people know the

way to say, for the time that we are doing this episode, we're we're going to

we're about the work, that we're we're doing the market theater, our show

that's that's that television that's on the side of Samudio the

people have been there, always has been there has been there since

he put the television was in the piece with the hand of the man of

a man peluda uh a whole of the point of the muke was semi-abirt

and was with the front super recargated I go that I had had passed

anteriorly of that me had put some the people you know but

but to turn a no apart not not so no

no Oh, but it's a monitor very great and pesed. Passed. For his proper would have rothed

for the minus the scinescopio. No. No. It's not so, no, no,

it was a cause it was a cause of an cause, because it was to have temblable, what you like, and

in that sense, you fell with the power of the person, is that they're, it's just,

that's what I don't think. That's the question. Two, the muke me incredible,

like the, I put it in the niche a minute, you want to

thank you. Oh, thank. Very well, that encirro with salt of grain,

and my great-sim Paco, is a credient Catholic, so. No,

Christian, well. Christian, well. There's, there, there are Christians there are

Christian. So, well. Well, but it has been to have to have

to have those symbols because if they do they functionan. The fact

that the moeke you had we have we've talked the way that I

that I've that I've talked about exactly of the story. That's. It's an

object that has been to be in revision absolute and it's an object

that you have to use to just the arraigament of energy over the objects.

Sure. Talbess I don't see, no see, there's a bit oprimidid

I feel I'm like maniatada car. Sure. Because if I was I had

yeah in the office in a niche the Lacerre and point. Yeah.

Very different as, as as I'm the other mollica that you can be in the tour

insolito, that is a mollica also that's a mollica in the middle of the mirab.

But that one has done more than the experimentation that I think that's true. That's that's the

symbolism of every object is conform to the perspective of every kind of the

conception of the conception that we're seeing and listening is varied even

even to to the cases that we've exposed, my. That's so much. Oh,

oh, oh, yeah we're got to be the time. Yeah. I'm sorry. For

this super episode, the fact, I'm a really, the cases that's investigated.

Your are the other level, my name, thank you. How do you do you?

No, super comod I just just said, I'm talking, I said, I'm meant to the other

case, we're we're going for the other case, let's we're,

we're we're in similares. I'm going to say, Paco, I've been a year that I've known, a little more

and I'm a year. And, and I say I'm saying, we're saying, and I'm and I'm sorry. And I'm

and I'm and I'm not only the invitation, but also the time in your space, in your

place, I'm doing, like, I'm part of your family practically and then we're part of

times, imagine it's, the time so it's going to be like this, to be in context and

in conclusion, no is the object, No is the muneco. No is the moke.

It's who he'serce the vinculation. Aguas. 100. Radio social Romano?

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