EXTRA ANORMAL - Historias Siniestras de ÁNGELES CAÍDOS: El Demonio Me Habló... Y Cumplió Su Promesa

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

En este nuevo episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias conversa con Oscar Gherbert sobre uno de los temas más oscuros y perturbadores: los ángeles caídos y sus promesas malditas.👁️‍🗨️ ¿Qué sucede cuando un demonio te habla... y luego cumple exactamente lo que te advirtió?⚠️ Este episodio profundiza en relatos siniestros de pactos, advertencias demoníacas y mensajes ocultos que cambiaron vidas para siempre.😨 Nunca subestimes las palabras de una entidad del inframundo… porque si algo saben hacer, es cumplirlas.Exploramos:¿Quiénes son los verdaderos ángeles caídos?Relatos REALES de encuentros con demonios.El poder de la palabra en el mundo espiritual.Pactos que no deberían haberse hecho… y sus consecuencias.🕯️ Si buscas historias que te dejarán helado, este episodio es para ti.🔔 Suscríbete, deja tu comentario y comparte este relato si alguna vez sentiste que algo oscuro te observaba…

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This is where the story really starts. Weapons. He says he practically he's got him the chamoco that he was learning in form of an anciana necessitated. And there a moment where his abelow

and he was a lot to the risa, to the carcachada and he was burlable and began to signal you, you, you and you, they're going to move. And he says that he gets so spantado

and he's to reclimate to her mom, that's doing, why evitas the bendition? In this, he says that his cellular in a madrugada,

he's he's his tio. Your mom just made to move. He said that his

life is a conden very, very very strong because he can't have

a life normal, and he terminate never subestim in the words

of a demonio because they're they're they're they they're

We're going to be able to be able to go. I'm going to be able to be. What I'm going to be able to be able to be a What a podcast extraanormal. My name is Pacoarias. and I'm happy to be in a

episode with all of you today. Today I'm a lot of family, because we have a

thing very special more than the other than about about stories

embrujated and they're there. We have a theme that has to be much

with a phenomenon a very with something that not normal that you get to

topart in this life to talk to be a person a great

friend and a great colleague, the good Oscar Gerber. How are you? Good, yeah,

yeah, always a good-as to be in this mess talking about these things and about

when they're involved with things ecclesiastical of angels, demons, demons, about this.

Thank you, Dr. Oscar. Family, you know, before you know, to start the

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no see, a context of the theme of that I'm going to this, Oscar, I know that you've seen

many times with us you've done many times with us but if there there's a first time,

we can do your radio social? Sure, with all gusto. I'm in Instagram, in treds, in Twitter, and TikTok, as Oscar Herbert, and also in the channel of Sergalan Sustos, where I'm going to share with Tversa with Daphne Silva and us can't

find out of us. They're going to give us a lotcite for there. Perfect. I mean, I remember that the networks social of Sergant Sustos are in the description of the episode. Now, so, my good, Oscar, to be, I have, I have a question for you. What nervous. Look,

I said a rata Enquenchors with Bruchery there's many times with entities

that are malignans duendes but I mean I think that a demonio

of a mano of a type of entity that has a cargo legions

of demons or of entities malignas I this was to a person

and this person me said is that is that is possible but it's like one in a million.

You, how would you think you'd be the encounter of a person with an entity of a high-rangle talking yeah of an angel caed?

I mean, a ser that has a much power, muchissimo knowledge, years of knowledge,

I'd say I. You, what do you? I think that is quite confuso, because at

If at the final, if we go to the parmetro into the ecclesiastical of the sacreds partying of

there, it's in various parts of the history where the enemy because is citated

a way, well, practically comes to get to engage. And a sometimes one

has a sometimes you feel one soledat, no, I see one that has

one that has a little that you present a way, it's a kind of

might be and what you said, ago, all the legions that exist, and I'm imagine that

one has their place, and time, space, like if were a job, practically.

Of that I can do this, or maybe for the same, of the kind of, that's the

sort of their own decisions, that I'm going to go to this side,

for the tangente, although no me somet to a something to you.

Fidate I, there, there were some I'm trying to to understand

what are the demonos that are I mean many people in this moment they're going to

want to want to want to they're doing so they're so I'm that's all that I'm

what I'm what is the demonio or what are the demonios because curiousamently

the term demonio or diablo or satan there there are many

religions where no exist of that where there entities

similar for the type of energy So, the common denominator of the devil or of Satanus or of Lucifer is energetic, is a theme of energy. So in the sateria, or, pardon, religion Yoruba, the Paloma Jome, creencers and cultures, even Japaneseas, orientals, in general.

exists this entity under many numbers but always it

is a a little a little now the appearance really has to have to

something physically necessary so why for why plasmar

those in a form physically I was I was I'm

saying a lead to some little clavicles salomon

is Ars Goetia where was being the physical and the majority of

demonios if not is that all have a representation humanoid with rascals of princes

of reels montando camels, montando camels montando dragons as the theme of Balak that is

like an angelito not much we remember to Serafin there the chaborrucos of the 90

record we to Serafine for example Balak well is very similar to an angelito montando a dragon so my,

my doubt always has been the demonio, the demonio are energy so are energies obviously we have

about, of a bad vibration, energies that are in the world astral and have

this density in your energy that it's so energy that does make sores oscouros

but there is a necessity in the human in quer plasmar a figure

physical when they they're not physical they're not they're not they're they're not

because I'm because they're in the scripted antivus even inclinandom obviously to make

different forms in this plan of physical in this reality in the whole we all we've been

and they can't be or influenceier persons to make the mal that is

your proper natural not, to do this type of things. Other

people are things that no, that simply are beings or are energies

very years, so, I'm about of years, with

millions of books in knowledge that we don't

but that a final of you know, as we're

that they're not they're they're interested in us

in not a form indirect no no like

me interested Oscar or me interest Paco, no. We

we're the attention because seeing that all the power

that they have we're we're not they're and for that

there's a certain little interest in us and it's

for that we have in stories this type

of situations where a person human can get

to make and oh no I'm not I'm

just just that a human normal not could be able to and it's

when it's when the influence of the demoniac or you think you know that

you're saying this not so not so I think you know the we're

about the satanical in in the and they're in the thing you put

to learn or at a very personal of these images that we

have the diablo of satanas of the the that's

the kind of the famous patas catas-a-cabra, no? That this is practically or relatively new.

The fact that even he's confunded with Bafomet that we talked about and cotorre-a- ab-mett,

I don't have any part, nor suerty in all this contextualization of what has been historically about about

and maybe spoolying a little of how even the cabierers templarious were obligated

to say that were adorators of the diablo and they putian this figure of

Phomed, that Baphomed is practically new. Volvying to your point, also there are other references historic, of that, for example, when Eva,

that was called with the serpent, that's supposed that the serpent no, it was that's normal for Adan and Eva,

to be able to talk with an animal. With animals. And that there came this conversation where this

animal, that is like a reptil, terminate, practically seducing to come the fruit prohibit. And as,

as, as you know, they're a figure like, simply are energies or are things that are going to adaptable

to the malo that we know that we know but I think that also, I think it

has been much how they're telling the story. And I'm not I'm saying

that the devil be good or not. Simply can be other

deities that not compagin with the God in that they're

in a question very important the thing of the credence of

the person and it's a time where we we're not we're we're

not in because if something a much people he he really

is mention you know that not only just a

only and for a other other world is living

and and not be the same and not

that's he he's not for he's he's satanical he

he can he can make a to be very plenno, living a life in peace,

living tranquill, and not precisely is not really in your God. So we're

about the whole of a question, but there always there a common denominator

in all. Entities that come to this world, yeah because

their planet is to explode, or because they are in a war, for

some reason get a our planet, we observe, we're

we're cross-s, we're cross-n-as and they're things incredibly aplastants

and terror-dress. In many creencers there's this idea, no, of that we

are not, we're, we know, we're like a point central of other worlds,

where with the Sumerios, with the theme of Christianism, so, always there someone

that's and the story is to get to be and the Christchrist, that he is like an avatar. Ojo, this is what

said, some people. It's like an avatar that comes every time for that the world no pierre the rumbo. There we have a Buddha. There we have a Jesus Christ. There we have, and we're going with a lot of people

that bring a message, and if they're an analysis, a very similar, a message of hope, a message of a love, a message of compassion, to your brother, to your progimo, and that's, a me has made very, very interesting,

that I think is the idea with the idea with we need to and not take a religion like to satanized all and that all what is

out of your scheme of your scheme of is bad. I mean, I think we, I think you, I'm, you think you

think you? Yeah, polarize the creencies at the final not you never, absolutely in nothing. And also,

well, vending it of a manner historical, no, even the people are

even the people who there are a reference of, I'm a record of Baal,

that they put in the temple to the ark and it and it's the

story that you're narrating the this this stua and it's

and you and you say there there's a description of that's a word

but not because it's the devil simply there there's there we're

we're we're where we into this issue of Tauro, of Pisces,

etc., etc. There's an explanation that in this moment the era was focused in the

era. I know that quite strange this and for so many people in that time

they were in the other part where even in the New Testament when they're much

about the PES has been a reference of the eras that's living

in these experiences that They have to be with a god, with a total, and

at the end of the querns have to be with the devil but no, in reality has to

the era of the tower. I know that really, very, very strange this, but

if there are certain these, uh, he said, because the people, see those

people, that's the other things, again, making emphasis, with the thing of the question,

the time of the time, the time. Fian't that, well, talking of that time,

I was talking of the book of Wica, and Ielga something, I think I know that I've mentioned earlierly, because the first men, that

started, practically began with the theme of the careria. So, it's when nace the, the necessity of to create in something, or incommendarce to something, for that

they were good suorpe. So, it's when they're, they're this, well, this deidat, that was the god of the casseria, that evidently, that evidently

had to have cairns, because the animals that they'd castable, in their majority, had querns or they had a type of quern. So, his God had to have that idea or that reflect of what they were doing, for what he was going to be a ser like they, humanoid, with querns, because it was like they used, or were in the form of understanding their life, is your entom, but not precisely because they were

incommendanting a thing satanic or demoniac, no, as we know we know but well that's a thing important

but if me let you start Oscar I think to talk to talk a story

that is that is it has a person very religious us

we know a exekeel he he says that he he grew in the

sierra of his abelos his abelos those were people

very very religiousas so all his abuel his

abel his assistant of the sacerdote of the father of the

parroquia local of the people, he's he's encargated to

in many things, during the mis, the abuel was who had the

church, who had the the church, and he said the key, he said,

he had a character very full. He was even the same sacerdote had

occasions where he was where he called for a in oration but but I'm

in what? I'm in exorcismos he said that's his abuel and a group of

the brothers of the church they were to the sacerdote especially

of his parroquia for to doxism so the detail here is that is that

is Echel the the child that he's the he says that he

accompanied to his abuel in this type of things. When he had 10 years, he started to go. He said

that his abuel had a book. This librito he had had done the sacerdote and that his

libriot, his abel his own his old time, all the time, all the time and for the

nights, his abel he was his abel he said, he was a book, obviously,

of exorcism, and when he'd get to the moment to assist to the father, he'd

He said his libretto and he to recital He said he had the incommienda only of to rest of the father-n-n-n-u- So, like

to be the alcohol, pass-me-est-me- this, he, he always he was there was he,

the incomienda of always to be-re- and then he said that all the time he was used to do that type

of things, all the time saw that people who act were like animals or kids, that

grittable that he was used he was he's he's sure that a woman

he's got levitar about five centimeters. He yeah was accustomed until

that in an occasion a something that is where he can be a

life completely to him a night he knows he said he was with his abelos

were at the 10 of the night they were taking a

coffeecito with pan to gover, and of a little a woman started to

talk the door in a form desperated, clitandole to the Lord. Ezekiel

he says, and he says, tell to your abel to say, tell you say, the sacerdote,

he has to support. In that moment, he's all the he's going to go to

his abel, and here there's something because he says Ekeel

that when when When they're to the church not they're not a

normal. When they're they're they're they're in the church

there a great quantity of moscas. Something that never

had seen something he called the attention he

says that his abel before to enter he

and he said this this not you don't to

rest to this you you his librito and he he said to

him and he he says this is the oration that is the that you are to learn today not

is the father and you know this never never had

done that that was that was a sign that was that was not normal

when they're in the church there are two two sacerdotes

there a a man a a senior and they

have a a a little 10 years more or less. In that moment,

Ezekiel starts to learn, the oration, more or less, says, Padre of the God, you know,

no abandones to your child, demestran us your love and give us your protection.

It's a fragment of the oration that came in this book of liberation. He he said

that he costable a he also, he was a little, he costed very a little concentrars because

he was reading the oration and the pront the oration was intensified yeah and

the new he was like he started to make a look at the and he was he was

he went to get that situation of that he was impressionable because you never

had seen how I never had seen how a a little and it didn't

they were they were they were they were they were they were and this

that this kid to contorsional at the grad of that his codos to be doubled

and the little only he was and he was really and he he'd

and then he'd and the gritts and the grits and he is when

I was the the eliz in that there there is a moment

where all they're to start to he's that he

he's he intranes in the or repeat all

the oration, and be that that the young pego a grito, grito a little, like in that moment, the moscas are in the church, and the little came. All of the end,

thanks a God, they started to thank you. I had started a book. I'm a, I'm to, to darsel to my abel, and when me, I'm

got to, no had come out. The new, he went to the moment where the people is

confere and he he said, but it was when he said, when he

he says, when he never to leave in peace, no, to you, and to

your family. In that moment, the process again, they're all,

they're, it, during, two hours, until that for final

this ritual of exorcism. The little, could, could, he, and have this

liberation a part of that moment the things started to change. Passed two years

for that the abuel from the abel of he was the detail is that the

abel began in his character. It was a man very very was a

man even that in the first days of the infirm he was he had the misa

in his radio and all this But, there was something in him that he, that the same Esquil, he did know that it was normal. When, of the point,

a time, the father, the abuelo, he was, he was, he, he said, he, ben, what happened? In that moment, the abuelito, he's, he back of his almoada, the same librito,

and he's it. And he's a rosario, very big, And he has passed and he He said He said, I know

I'm because I don't give you never ever that's the exorcism no I didn't

what grave that could pass, the grave that could put to put the things.

No I'm I'm feelable if something if something I'm not going to

get to go to this and never you never you don't you

God. That's what the little to the little time the abel falles.

Passed the years. Passing much the years and is that he he gets to a life

adult and is when the things, so like these years after his life adulta

were very normal. All was normal until when he yeah to his

age adultes and to work that the things were

again again again. Sequel mentioned that he entered to

work in a factory. He was operating a machinery with other

other other other other he was he was he was he

was a voice but it was not audible was a voice that he

he described that he he he said he he said he

he this this probably to be to be

two two seconds see how one of his companions that was in front of him operando

another machine receive an impact in the car, one of the machines

that operable like that's desolta one of the one of the cadenas that were

the and he got the the rostro but he got the rostro with

a force that he disfigur all the car all the area of the area of

the manchid liquid vital and all and all they

Preted the alarms, not all the alboroto. But he said he said, like, but what, what, what, what happened to do? How is possible that I heard something? And at the two seconds, it's going to be this. That was the part of the Awas

for that his life changed for ever. He mentioned that all the time that I wanted to formalize with a woman, with a pairha, the things

they put in malas and they'd they're they're doing there's

there there's this is that's strange because he mentioned that there

there were people that when he had done when he was he was

when he was a woman that there was like

a person inside of the room to a side

to on the side when when they had the

light, well, no there was nothing, but every every that's all the

light, he said that he had a figure always, siding with him.

Another woman that came to mention that there had occasions

that had heard and voices in his house when

that he was that he was that he was having mentioned

a aspect of him that they were that they were the

more It was more It's not time. Because he said there was a woman

that practically also also he said he said he said at the end I'm going to

have been to have a little time of that they know they they're they're

when a night she began to have a lot very very

in his vintry that he he was he was the but

it was too too he had in that moment he he felt that was

a little to the thing spiritual because not was a high risk no had no had

nothing and there and over all the he said one a night before

I heard a voice that he he said not you don't you

then that that woman also he also he's he's only

completely solo and he we mention something he says that a part of

that's a part of the fabric of his parents has been surrounded of situations oscuras

of the things very he he felt that that he

was he was present in that exorcism when he he

was a little took a consequence a that

he himself he he invoked to God and to Los Angeles but

it's that came in the angels of the because my life is

a chaos he he says I'm I'm 42 years but

I'm I'm my 80 my my my my

rostro I'm ambe so I'm very very very so

he was a many doctors specialists and he

knows what's what's going. His house me has a

reference of the wall of the thing because me says

Paco is to my court my house my

house is replet of images religious in a

bureau I gave aber in the or that

I recit all the nights and that I

know I I have that I'm I Because every

that I intend to retomar my life to form normal, quitter all the religious I feel that me accompany those angels, but are angels oscuros.

He me said that his life is a condemn very, very very very

very very and he never admitting never subestim in the words of

a demonio because they're and it's the correo that we We've shared the good Sakel. Saludos, Siqueel.

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Conditions apply. I agree, and I think, maybe I'm going to say a little of this. Have you seen the movie of Batman and Superman There's a dialogue where is exactly the ex-Lutor

and has a quadro of the angels it has he has been and he he says a a person

a woman he says that he remember that the demons come they're they're down

exactly and and going to the history another another way making

a reference of the internet there's an If I'm I'm going to They're

in a church. And he is talking about a thing of a very similar to this

and then to the church are to have certain and the and the sacerdote

and I remember much to the father of Joseph he's and he and he says

to the people who are they're they're doing they're not that I'm not like that I'm

about this but they're like my hierarchy and he's and he's he's like so

yeah and he It's a reference that even they're even they're in the other of the

other of the places sacred for what you mentioned about the crosses there's

there's there's like they're like they're people we're going to we need to that I have

a cross I have the Bible abirta and that's like bro I can't be able to

I know I know I know I know well you know so precisely if we we don't

we need we're we know so of people who professed a a faith

Christian Catholic Christian let's remember that when the theme of Hop how is

that the enemy or not enter the devil to the presence of the God and he says

ohye you have considered a your serbo Hob so literally has been he has

been with him that can enter in a church yeah that

that history me fascina for all the context of how is I think I'm talking

I'm talking a little from the ignorance I It's the first

in that there's a conversation between Satanas and God and practically I'm going to say to what I'm going to use to

the audience. Practically they're going to and God. And God to do you do it and not only

lastime to the family of Hobb, but that also that also, it's a time of the

family, of all the then you know, then the then he'll be going to have going to have a child,

but if it is certain what you this part where has this conversation with a conversation

very, being casual. Hey, and how you're doing? It's all all. It's all

very strong. And if not me believe, there's Hop. All the

book of Hobb comes this story. I want to tell to you and all

the family of extra normal this story that I think

you know that has that it has that all, to us has passed

all we've been under a necessity to all has

been under of much pressure in the and a

Sometimes recurring or majorly when we are in this situation we'll turn to

we're doing. This history is of a woman called Minerva. Minerva was in

a very mal racha, had had been done a liquidation but

not had been just what was conformed the law. So,

then he gets to cassear his money. And that

armando of this she was only only with her perrito. And his perrito me liked this part because her

perritty. Okay. So, Odie, she was like her, her companion to live. Desafunately, this rachia of a mal

economy, it's not only to go to this, but also the perrita, it's like of these where all you

are getting bad in the life, and he has to pay debt, has to pay the car, et cetera, et cetera.

It's curious because that situation for that situation for that's a bolita of nieve. It's a one

a single thing to fall in your life and it's a lot of a lot of things.

So she was a lot of a lot of this situation. There was a person in her

work that was apegated to her was like her and he was like

he was even even I even wanted to make a demand for the thing

of the time of how had been had been done the money that she

had had been to the time. So there was this

woman that was a friend, and also her mother, who was also very, much, much, much,

very certain to her. He was going to the situation that was going. But Minerva like,

like, the thing to pay him to pay him to the people, it's

of this people, that I say, I can, I can't, I'm just, uh,

and conformed he was passing the time, obviously the money is going

to get to get to be wrinkonado practically the thing of the

person, and he He said, Oh, yeah, I'm really a lot of but not you'll have a

money that me prestes because the V. Noddy is a very I don't even I'm in that's just

he's just was subsistiening with pure aros, frioles, he was going very, very bad.

So, her mother says that she, and she does a fairia and he

does also, like, as we say in Mexico, the livian for that that you go and

over-givating the things. Pass the time. The house where Minerva

unfortunately to his papas had been this place to her and a her mother

had certain their houses because. Dice Minerva that was there was

some things and they found her a cajita and yeah the cajita was of her pap

the abe and he began to revisit some there objects there some

some diveritos you know you know sometimes the sometimes the people

do you sort of Right, right-o-unas. Yes. Just. So, she says that she a coin,

a moneta, a moneda a very, very big. Even so it's like the drama, like,

how do you do it, and the and the and the side of the side, where the

is she said she was a kind of a kind of, he said, he had the eyes

that had not so he had the rostro and that his hands were extended

like doing something, that the one, and And he has pitted the

point, in that moment he said that's a scalofrio so very, very, very

rare, but also he does a tranquillity. And in that's like I'm a susrough.

And yeah yeah, he's all the money and he kept to that, no?

She's he's going to dody, he's said, he's usually they're usually they're

a snouser. So, they're in the camera. And he says that's

he gets profoundly dormied. In the dream, it's this

thing that he has seen in the money. He's he's a side, without,

sin rostro, and with the hands so he said, and he says, I'm here to help.

And she and she has started with this uncertainty of what is this,

what is this voicecita constantly constantly, confi at me, then faith, then faith. Yeah

there's a moment where she he says that if is an angel and he says that

so the angel he says I'm going to ask to make you do that the money

you have apart a seven monedas and those seven monedas you're

to put in places specific where you want you want to

that there is pinchart the dead and to get

to those Botas. Then she's like tito-eat and there's there's so I'm

so I'm to get to get the moned as and the first that is put a money

of a centau in the kitchen in the refri in the salon

in the room and she she and she and she doesperation this

because he wants to get out of other people but

it and no absolutely nothing nothing of results.

He says well, it's a rarrow. In that he's a friend to the

last I'm a lot of the time. And with much pain he says, oh, and you

don't you have you and the voice. And the voice and say,

and then he's she does money. Be there to go to the time and

the the man of the the end of there's there he's there

and more to get to get in this another the

voice then faith. And he said he was can't he was going to

get to the house where are the containers of the back in Mexico we

have to deposit us for the car. He said that he was passing for there

and and then he so a rogito and there three billets

of 500 pesos and I he got to be to be to be back

and it and it he's he said that you had to you had to

the car is like very rar So, with that Feria, the part of to pay him

to the other time to to see how going to do this. Passed the next day. And, and she said she

that she didn't even to pay the internet, he was coming down in the and of the

place, and then it's a place where there's a lotification of the bank that they

had made a transference. But he said that it was a choncha, that if they were more of 40 varus,

that had led to. So she So she's So she She's So it's So that

What's going to Okay, hey, what's it's a really rare So I need I need to

the money but I don't want to I'm going to get in another person and he

is talking with the executive? For those who are for those $2,000? Yeah?

He's talking to the executive and in that I'm hear the and then he says, no

if it's for you, no, no, I don't know there's no, no no there

no, no no no there. In this moment she goes and he said to her

a woman she's they're or practicable in the faith Christian he said

he's he's I'm going to go to go to the temple to thank you

to the God for what that's getting to the church at the

meeting at the time of the time of the allowances and they're so they're

so random and you they're they're they're you know well

is that the first person he says God in this moment

we're in the alavance, me he said that did a something, he said, he'd do a

money. And then another person at the hour of the side, he does a fairia

also. And I went to see, and his brother, and say, oh,

well, you know, because I pay this money. And so he he's

he's his money, no? This, like he starts much the attention

to that that's that's doing all this. Then, commenced a

in this, this issue that I'm going to. Resulta that this voice

he begins to repeat that is that's good that he did he, but that

remember that it's a price. And that's okay. In that, she recoge the

seven moned, let in the cajita where he found the other

money that was this angel and yeah then she he, and the other day

they they're they're on the job where she was

she communicated a person and he says that Fabiola, the

that she had had had fallen and she she's back on but

what she did a paro and he did a carriac and yeah

it's like yeah it pass the time and in those

times were tragedia after tragedy and of the

person he he did in the church, they were in a vehicle

and they're in the life. So she is very consternated and she gets like what's

what's specifically the people who were doing are doing the life and yeah it's like

God why? And other again the voice he said all the he said

everything she was she goes and she went to her My brother, what's what's going to

and say, and they're saying, and it's just doing ideas absurd. It's that it's that all the

thing that's, it's, it's, it's, like a new thing mental, maybe it's coincidio and desafortunately

these people but are those people that me have been helping. And what me preoccupied

and you also. Ah, la see. He's got to his house and he's, like to accommodate

all, and he says, God, God, for favor, protect to my family. Sure.

So, he's done, and that same night when he's doing,

it's that this same angel he is a little and he's

he's and he's he's like, and he's like she's a parisis

of the dream. And he says and he put the hand on the

perrito and the perit simply has a little awed. She

open the eyes and when see a his person, he was he was

totally so flatito. No had a he was he was he was From there,

he's got with her mother. Agarra like the perro, it's like, what's, what's the

he's going, and he says, to your woman, for favor, he's not for me, because this is,

all the people, they're doing, even my perro, and I want to get to you, you know,

I'm to do that, you know, I'm doing, and the person, he said, no,

don't you don't you don't you, I'm going to talk to you, yeah, he'll be

to the son, so the unyad, they're to orer and they're and they say

that all a protection in the name of Jesus et cetera et cetera when they're

when they're to make of them was her his sobrina his sobrina was coming

us a paletita of the point the little she's toce and he

starts toce and he starts the father and he's to put her but no

So, no, it's not. So, no the little. The little time.

It's a moment. It was a problem. And then the funeral of the little.

And she, I mean, very, very, very, molesta. It's like, what

does, do you know, and I know. All the people that's getting a

life, and not want to get more people, pass in the same with her. Okay.

So, then, he gets a, to get meted the seven moned in this

caj. Dice. And, de-pronto, I'll open the caja, and not were in the monedas.

There were seven plums negras. And, of this is like, they're like, it's

in front of her. And he said, what you want to me? And he said, what

I said, what I did you, and he said, he said, he had something, he had something.

She said, the day in that he did this ritual, that was simply pinched

the and put it in the monedas that I had said, because at final, she said she was going for a thing far as

a problem, but not valia the pain the that these people who me would have had a life, even

my sobrile. This is the story lamentable of Miner. Oh, man.

Fidate that I talked with, well, I've done with much bruchos and all

they say or they give a recommendation important for who who are

practicants of brugheria. If you not are a practicant or you're not occupies your

property because you know you know what can happen so if it's something

that we see a very much so easy as much like in a work

or a ritual and you can be something so what's so

what I'm what is the only relato that about that he gets

to get to the nada. Even the actual to give money

in your house is a ritual so so very

basic obviously without the thing of the so only the

money because they know that the money that the money

or call a money so there I'm a parent

that is curious is a chocom adventure when when I

had with a parent my very very very

I was in your house. And, well, I was, I was just a chiquel. I had, like, I was in, no, man, loco. I'd june. Because I just saw that was down to the sofa, above.

Ah, yeah, so. And, um, and my tia me said, no. And my Tia me said, no. No, yeah, no, no, no, I'm gonna say,

Saludus to my Tia. Saludus to my Tia, my Tia, my Tia, no, no, you know, no, but you're in your house, but you're in your house, but that's,

but it's, but it's, you've been about much of my abolita. there in your patio, there were much monedas but they were

interrads. And they were monedas and they were discontinued. And I don't know, I mean I was

to be playing with a prima, with my prima Claudia, Claudia Christal, a brother, if you're doing. Saludos.

De-pronts. We had had been on the patio of the abelah. And I'm like to

go to go and then to start on the money because I'm on the money. Yeah, in the money

of the money to get some things. But yeah, my abolito also had that practice

to leave feria and tirade in the patio. I don't see if functioned, never I've done

but I imagine that for something, it's like to say that the more and it's it's not.

Yeah, so it's all the thing, I mean, I'm the I'm gonna Oscar

that's that's called the price of the life. That story is very

interesting and we have the name real of the person and we have the

permission to say Reina Horosco much thank you send a

a great a brother is a a but not the

context. She says that his lineage is of pure bruchos.

It's a family that from the life have practiced magic and this

came from his ex-abuelos. We said that his abel was a

man and his abel was a woman that had a very

a woman all the time the house of this

so he this is his abuel, the house of his

of those vis-a-aduals, he was full of many, like these frasco, no, with herbs, pieles

of animals and a lot of things. So, from his ex-a-a-ebbels, his family was involved

in things very very fervest of magic. Obviously, then his fathers, also, his

parents, they have this time, no, to make a whole-a-to-a- all-s-o-a- her newness,

he was surrounded of altars. For her it was normal to be a day that your

father or his father or a guy or a guy, or a cabra or any animal. I was

she was always a all the time to be altars, be rituals, ver belas, the

aromas, the typical aroma esoterica to belas and yerbas. So, all this

was normal for her. She also her family offered a work

So, from the enamorados that wanted to get to get to

their love to people of a important a we're

a not a big, but so that you like

a governor a president municipal says that they're

that they're to to to matter to people if the

price was was hard and the family said it

we don't So, so, so their family, if they had people, if you get

someone in the way, they were in the way, they're not a bit of her. She said, and she says,

that for the people normal sound like to, oh, la really the grand majority do it,

and so, so, like, like, and then, so, something, so,

something, I'm, she said, to the, oh, she said, that a, normal,

was, in his house and he was a man, a man very

desperated and in his his braos he had a lo that was the

the body of his his whole because he was because he was

he was was a but he had awed his ross was completely

blue his his hands his his his his he's

he came he gave to the father saying that for

favor he would he He was the only that could help him. Mentioned that this man

was going to the press. Of the point, his child of five years, he goes

from the boat, and he's abient to get to his son. Something he describes this

this sir, because he said that when they were in the water, there was

a force invisible that he had a little, and every that he had a

his his and he wanted and he was a rebatable the

child. So when when he did go out of the water with the little

in his arms, the the little he had no had

sign vitals. He he was, or it was, or was a

little and the center of health was very long

was there was the the grand that were

they were part-ter so they had a knowledge

and they they reina, that his abuel, to his abuel,

and like he has a gesture, no, like, like he says, okay,

we're to do you, and the other bruchos, chamanes, and he says that

first they're first, like a ritual. Dice, put in the court of the child,

in the place, for this have been yet have got to other three persons,

they're to learn at, umerios, and they're there was, there one who

He started to talk an instrument no me do the name but what I'm a

kind of a kind of a vibration is redone is redondo is very great and the

and the bula started this ritual was a bit strange because Reina

me says in all my life Reina I'm at this then

I was I'm like I'm never never had seen a ritual that

was that were so there more bruchos and all

they were doing something my abuela started to a

a while I'm a a while a one a one

a a so is and my abel and so about

the about the around about about something something

something to what in some cultures here in the part

the southeast of Mexico and she she there

there there a moment where the the the atmosphere,

it's to start free. So, like, like you think you there's a

currents and it's when she know that the lume that's that's he said

Paco, I'm to know how they were forming rostros of the humo.

So, they were to form rosters and they were and then again

and again and again. In that my abuel did, I said, I'm

saying, but I had to the stomago and like, like I wanted to

I'm going to and I only did this movement and I'm doing this saying my abuela,

she'd be doing, but she was going and she was going to, my abelio

says, he said, he's to get to two seconds, the little the man who was in the

house, and he started too to get to get to his case to get to get to

take all the the man, the father of the boy of the knee, and he said to cry,

and the other bruchos that were also who were also talking instruments, said, they were

really, but there was something very very strange. No, my abuel, said,

and my abel, they were having, and the actually, my abel's

said, and my mother, she was he kept looking like she knew

something, that the other not He said, until that he cobrough

not they the child was good, he took up to the child, no passed nothing with the child, the the problem was for the problem, was it for the problem, that came to the people even of other states,

even of other country. And my abuel yeah no those attended. He was passed to my

father. My papa is the who started to do the work. And I always

being, I'm learning, he said. My abel to decal much.

And it was a part of that ritual. Passed the months and his abel

and so his abel she said that when his aboel was in agonia

And she was to burlars of his parents, even of his abuela. His abuel

he scupia in the car to who was he was he was him and he said

she she he said she he's got in the court for that he didn't how

he said he said he's because yeah his cerebrons not not is

working and reina says no it is certain. Me

they're in going to them don't, because it's a don't.

I'm what I'm was that in the camera of my abel was

surrounded of the entities large, with alas, but they

were like sombers, they were those and he was to

how to react to these entities and there a moment

where his abuel and of Pronto pass to the risa,

to the carcajada and he was to signaled, you, you, you,

and you, he's going to move. And so he's to be to be

to be two days in agonia until that this man so much,

he gets a time, and he did know that her began

to change too. Strangamente his abel also did he

did you do the time his house was all herbs, some that were

yeah and things so that his mess was there was in

nothing until that they they they were in your

kitchen the people say that he did a

paro cardiac what is that his abel and

his mother and in his hands was there's that's that

they said that she was being something and

that she in his last moment he intended to

defenders with but no the never she didn't

so so Reina me said that his parents

that also do they know they know they're

because because so her mom and her abandon

the but not they don't talk of the thing

nobody does Brughery in her family. And Reina, she me

said, I, I see comidone. I see entities, I know things.

A sometimes, I do my my letters, I do the things,

I go rituals very simple, but when I want to do something more more,

we're going to call it more complete, more powerful, more

more powerful, I'm, I'm, I'm something that something

something, like I'm, like, I'm afraid the door to something, and I'm a because I don't

want to my abel, and for something, my father they've got to do dogeria.

He's, I'm afraid or be my abel or be my abel in his old days

of the life. No know what happened. No know that was that

did you not in that ritual to bring to the child, the he's a adult, the

an adult no he he he passed to my family no see

that's that's the time of the thing of the thing is something something

because the point you know that's something with a little detail

I don't see the the word correct is not not not and how

you can you can you can you can determine affecting to something to

something to be a I mean, we've seen in a marries, even. Yeah, I'm not

I'm a person that's a expert and I've said much many times, but I'm going to how it's

every element. For example, this disc that emite, or you know, you know, you know, or there's,

no, I don't know how you, it's like, it's like, it's like a , it's like a backeta,

we're just, but I'm in my ignorance. So, so it produces like a sumbid to a vibration.

So, So if we summamos the vibration of that instrument, more a tambour, we have a series of vibrations that are occupied, or there was a person, a salute to Josue, that me said that one of the rituals

to bring to the devil, of the rituals that are simple, are in some, in one, in those vials of train, walking with a metal, so it's a vibration. So the vibration always is within of a ritual

When you want to attract a energy? So if we summed this ritual that they did or attracted something, they want to try to the life to something, that no really what was, if it was a entity, if it was his deidad, if it was to the same

death, no, I don't know, if there was a sacrifice also, they offered them something, they're offering them something, so they're, they're, they're trying something, what I think in my little knowledge

is, we're giving them but we say to him regressal. But in the equation, because if there were close, I said, you know, five brujos, that's all you know what, so, I don't know if it was in the offender, no see what was there, or of less, that detoned a down to the family that waspiciating the ritual. It's very interesting the theme of the vibrations, because

for there I was reading it a lot of much time when I was in the university. The theme of just, how, what is the frequency in that the person human vibra when

when somebody says you have to vibrate and all this thing that's that's

a lot of this even even is even to the health because

because when you when you put to when some

synagogues I'm I'm talking about many years after even before the

existence of Jesus Christ how in the temples had certain

certain patterns of accordes that these those they were

and I When there were people that was in there were certain patterns of accords

that were that the body vibra were in the thing natural like that they

had alignia a a vibration a bad in this when

someone is and how some some those are prohibited

within of the the churches because not caused this

harmonia at this this I want to aterisar to what you

you've got to say, how using, for example, in this case, the metal, that also I heard when

Jose mentioned about this, how can use to be to be to say, or for

all the contrary. The fact, it's a thing is a thing that's very, very extensive

the power to say it in two minutes, like I'm saying in this moment, because if

there's an explanation even scientific of how is that this this was that this functionable

in the exactly. I'm I'm sure. I've a story of a person

he's called Edward Edward us that he had a life common, common and

current here is very distinct to what we're that regularly the people when we

we're when we're that we call us to give us a person that we're saying

that something something that was something was not even I don't know I was like a

spiritual. He said he's close to where I'm a few quadras there's a

little supermercad and he said that he was all the days, a

sometimes even did his and that and he was

the days until that he'd to be a man

out of the tient and he he in occasions he had a

botecito like piling money. He'd he'd he'd like to

go to the super that's insegated and see and be that the she's

there in a passio and he says that the she was like that's

when you you're going when you know you're going to you're you know you're

and says the she's the thing that she was being a having a a parable and of

see, he said that the she was going to some money and he he said,

he said that he said, maybe to be able to some of these anachieles. And the she said,

no, not just I'm doing so I'm so much. So, so he commovio

to he was and he asked a only, and the woman only moved

the head, he said, he said, yeah. He's to the car and

he bolted like with this uncertainty of that maybe and it was evident that the

she was not to buy your dispense or what I was looking and pay his things and then

this instinct at the final a human who's trying to help get to get back and he

asked the question the woman that is what he needs and yeah the she says

what necessary to live and he he got a canacit and he starts friol it's a

dispenser practically to resumion He goes to the Caja, paga and he

does his bolstits. So he he's going to be to look to see the and he

and he says here to a little a little and then he'll get the and he

got the and he and he and he and he he's that he had seen

he said and he said he said he said all the time simply

when a sometimes one has the people don't no

us and he he he he's he He was a

piece of the scene because it's a old and he he said he said

he's he's a he's a garry a garriot like he he's to be

back up and they're going to the sir and they're to get to your

house and said that the house was very um in reality open

the door to the thing and that he gave much a everybody

he did he he said he said that he was a

there was more or less of the comedorcito had, of the four sillas, two functioned, I looked at

to be a lot of left, and there a sofa and I was very, very left. There were some quadros

there, that were that were just being some some retratos. And yeah commenced

to talk to that why she was she only? And the she said, is that

my kids me abandoner. So this also, this also, like he's how can't say that the

person do things he put the dispense over the table and when she goes the lady

he extends his hand his hand and he he's he's a hand and he he does

a kind of a piece of a tela of hilos and the she says me

you know I remember much to one of my and he he's he says

yeah madrecita no doesn't not no I'm here he says no

even I know I know that you can't that's that's that's

that's a lot of it. And then he was like, okay, the abuelita always they

end up a benician and no. He's to go to his house and he gets thinking

in how the people can get to get to to get to a little a mom or how

how can how much how much how much the people don't abandoning

to the people. He's to get to a the days and it's

the words of the words of the she said that he said he was to be to prosperer

because it was in the reality in the job he was very well he said

even even pro or they they're on the past the the time he was

to be a her her man his herman his brother he has

he even but says Lalo when when he when he to get to the

house had a there had a and with him, a labrador that when

he says when the door when he goes he's to get to the car and he's like to get to the house.

And so what's what he he says, no? And yeah enter and he says, he says,

well, you don't see, your perro is a little loco. Then he he wants to cargary a

sobrino and when carg the little, he says that the little he said that

he was a little and he comes to like to get to like if something

like if something like if what's what you end up you know, you know,

your family is very a little bit more you've said you've been better. And yeah then they're

like talking, they're like with this conversation and then he'd see that

he'd always always had with him the thing of the thing of he's

he'll recoges his things, pass the time, he's time, and he's

to go to his house, and he'd go to another other way to the

other the super and have passed And he asks, how he's there? And he says,

well, and what's here? And he says, well, I'm going to see, I'm going to get

to the super, he's the dispense, he'll go to get to the same process, they're in house a

rato, and he, he's like, in this conversation of the why, I mean, insisting,

because it, so is that so, so it's not you don't you don't you don't you don't be

this, this is a habit. Dice says that regularly that the Mereclis, between

the 7 and the In that He gets her her mother to the house

after the time in the house and they're to have a conversation and he says,

Oye, Alo, I'm I'm worried something. He's that you think it

because the last that you went to my house I've been

having something I'm even I'm I'm even I'm

I'm in the room and he's cargan. And I've seen in dreams like my

man, so when you it's like when you it's like you say, hey, you're you're

no, of the really. And he said the woman, I've seen a

woman anciana chiquita with a girl gray in the head. No manches.

And he he'll be a little and the I'm doing, I'm so I in that

to come the door of the house of Lalo open the door and it was

the old and the woman or the woman, he says what does that what does

what you does that she makes that she put a very agressive like that she

want to want to let us intervien like no wait what you you're going

to do you you're so because you put you put so you even even even

he says that she does to see that her Rostro, it's to

change, like to endurecercer and and it's to be in language.

And the Anciana and he says, Abraza Lalo, and he says,

that no me do you, that's that I'm doing that so that so

that's like, so she's, he doesn't that he not can't understand, and he

he's going to be back back, he's back, he's back, and the

moment to get, and the And he'll get her She's a woman that's or around with her

cune with and they're doing so in languages and he he says what's what's

what's what's what you say? Lalo I'm I'm you're

to say you're talking and you don't I'm to ask to pray

for you and you're to say that not you

separate to your mother and the brother the

He says that he he's aferrabe and that he's he's a ferrave and that all of the situation van

and Lalo he asked a carjera that if he no had, he left to see to be the Anciana

who he went in the story Lalo he left to see to be the anciana and he he asked the

carger and the she was and the senior chaparita that then I'd he'd

And he said, What's the chaperrita? He says, here has been a senior that's

here. He's not sir. I've come out dispense. I've been with

her. I've paid the car. He'll pay your dispense and he made. He made.

He lefte. He went to and then he's going to get more with a with an anciana.

Resulta that Lalo begins to make to make to make much time

he had he had said that he's a man

for this mom and he didn't have had

had had parted of this world result that

he he he mentioned in the encounter that

he was maybe he was so real but

in reality I was I was because how

you because how you know the thing in the

house of the and how he, in that moment, that, I was talking with this woman, he gets her mother and he's to attack. He's, he, that practically

he's got him the chamoco that he was about in form of an Anciana Necessed. He was a friend. Oh, man. That is that... I go, there's a story

that is very similar, but this is, it's, it's, salue in the stories of centers commercial, if you don't have seen you recommend that you know that's

you know we've been a year or more of a cashero of one of these tenders that are

circulares X X circulares rojas and he said that all the time had precisely a man

of this is that open the door of the tienda and then you

give us some some centavito not some monadas and that he

he caused a little a little of a piece and he was a

little in a moment that's that was a posada that was it's over

pozole is a a common typical Mexican and he was a very good

he gave a little a place and he caused much confusion when that

he said this was this was my food when was when I was

so so so what so no no nothing so

and result and resulta that that that really really never

never never to his company. Oh, but if you you'd say you, you had to

you, you're in the piece, and I thought, I said, he's, because

they were, so, with, with a with a man, no. The message

here is not to help to do you. No, not, that's chascarry. No,

but in the case, in the case, in the that's, I go, that's,

I'm, to a, no, and apart to, to be, to, I'm

to me really a attention when here a story that I said that he says that

he recalls a one of his children and that they abandoned and I

think to think to think to what we're about from from

this this creation of how maybe for natural

they have the rebellion the and how some

we know we historically and we have and

we know we're descending to the the and

not align to Now, now, I'm there's these

groups where say, you know I'm not I'm going to get to what he.

I'm more me going for other side. Yes, there

there's a demonio that that's that's some some

demonologos that don't align to even to let me that's

a demonio very rebel, very powerful also also has

a lot of legions of demons and that in the

natural is that that part no of the rebellion. Beniel is the that you

that's the one of the song before I'm in a song is that you're a piece of TikTok

that's the name of the demons. I'm not I'm going to learn. I want to talk about

an story my good Oscar that's called Sanidad and this story is

very really is very really is very very really it's very marianna.

Marianna is a mother sultner she has to And I don't know how to start this story, because, we'll, let's say a say, he had a son, a son, a child, Daniel. This little was diagnosed with atrofia muscular, spinal, type 2, from the 7 years, a condition that was going to go,

with the past of the time, with the past of the months, to a grader where the little he had no sottenia neither a cuchara something

mariana suffered much for much time she mentioned that not dormia not comeia that all the

time had to be to be doing to be because he had a

moment this this little he was he visit

medicos visit specialists he got all the money that

his diffund husband he had left in the treatment

for his and there there some alternatives that only

they gave like the that the little recuperer a

little a little but almost almost was the response

of no there she she she she was

she because like he all time all the time

had to be to and even in the night's something that really is a

boyle I think what nobody and what nobody want to one of your

your children so the desperation was getting to her and with her to look

more alternatives she clamab to the sky to the stars

to what she she said she I'm I'm I'm a what

say you you're you're in a desperation where

and yeah, so, so, what is good. And, so it's all it's not

that it was a question. She said that one a night, that, well,

a night, almost, I said, I'm getting a dormida, only I'm a

couple of hours, me dorms and three five and six of the morning.

Very little, he said that was that was getting a dormita when he

was, this voice he said, I'm going to and I'm going to go to and I

get a and she kept and she kept and he was that that was the night the next

the same the same the same the same the same that she had to do her

with her this voice she gave a series of elements that those

I'm to say some not those and each an element

that is natural the Sangre of Christ. So, so it is

of a old. When it's the part of the cartes, it's

there's this liquid of, there is this is the name that they gave that's the

name that is the thing of a henho, something that's rare because there's

there's there that had to be extraida of a campos santo

of a pantheon, coenco obsidiana and a lot of elements more.

She had to apply these infusions over the pecho of his and her son had to be to be around the more elements, between them, veleders, and in a position specific. And in that moment

I had to recital a oration to commender to her son. A year's said a lotura to this. But as I said

a rato, when you have no you have an option, what is an option she she was a her with

much more faith and now so that like for art of magic but

of these exaggerated the the new the new to retomar mobility in the day

one she noticed that she started to move the his hands

the hands, the the two three more or the little

the new the little the and he said mom. So, her voice very

very devil, obviously. She did know that his his son began to recoup to recover life, to recover health

yeah, for the day seven, and the little, yeah, he was going to do things,

and he was, now, so I'm, I didn't, he had this memory to talk to him, and after

a month, the young began to come to the medical, the specialists, and this moment,

me It's because they say it's that they say, is that there's a way.

Medically, scientifically, no there's form of that a patient with this disease has

a recuperation that's so much. So the child was a symbol not only of a

miracle, but of the time. They're to do different proofs,

and he's to go to the medical and passed something that's

very rare because when they were at the hospital Marianna us

said that in that same hospital there were children and adults also with different and their children was

and their children was and the really, like, as a movie, the

the child only was only a man, and as in the head or in the

person and at the days that they had to go to the

hospital, the that the his his had talked had This

passed for various exactly for seven years. For seven years

more, his son was his was going and this he called even the little

the young miracles because he he'd he'd or he'd

put a person and simply was a person sanable the person sanable.

She she thought God or had heard his plegaria and that

not only that was using to be a boy to be that he exist in

the miracles and that exists something more that is there

is there is listening and and just that happened

something she she said that she she had

retomated his normal and he had even to

know a a pairha, so her life yeah was in

a good she's she was in a lot of and she was

she was to get a voice that's a voice that's the

same voice that she she she years but

this occasion her voice no came of his

mind she and out out of the house

was the fourth of her her She she

enter and see that is all the interrupter and try

to turn the light nothing incendi in that in this

see like two balls of light that were

in front of her in the room in the room when

she when she tried to be in the dark there there

was a entity a It was a pretty great. His eyes were completely in black but she saw in full of obscurity his eyes were

black. And that same voice so familiar he said something that's been soficient's almas I don't need to your primogenito.

But what's what is what is happening? In that moment it's the light of the So, his

was done all right. She was questioning what was what I what I

was what I was the I'm getting a dormita parada, no see,

what so what so, no know, but strangely to

after that night at the day the day the his little

so he began to have to get to put to get something

and the things and the things she started like

an alarm no rapidly to to worry what's what's

why it's it's going to when you're you're an

adolescent normal no you know you and then he's a

doctor and he did count of a other people

people that before his had had made actually

that occurred a miracle in they started to

get to the of the of the to see

seven people of those who remember they're they're they're

so like they're and for some a strange reason they're

they're the the medical and they're they're so they're so they're

what's she did know that this entity this between commies

God that she thought that was she was she was she was not only

was used and that not only she did a a a a malacro

but he was he was so she she remember the

phrase for she and she she me said

my my son gave to the same situation that when I had seven years

my my child my my son my son and I feel and I'm

because she thinks that in this plegaria that he launched

to the four points cardinales something she she she

she he's aferro without what was what had

called I Fiatty that I try a ultimate story and I

think it's a very dense because there a part that me called the attention

was like the light he said a verse and me recall much to this

says a fragment clam to me and I you'll I'm this

has to be with the story that I want to I

that's same to what you you just to say, okay. This

history is of Andres and I'm a little. He said, my life has had

a spiral descendent. One of those in those in you know if you're going to

attack after the phone. He said that had passed the divorce, the deuds said that

they were in the same in the no in the Nucca, all, all, all,

he was going to be very, very bad. And he that his The major fortaleza

or where I'd try to find a refuge was in God. He always believed in

God. And he said he'd he'd call him all the time. So, God,

help me for a favor, open my mind, give me the vision for that

I can get a bad rach because not only only was the thing of the

divorce, but even that even even he even sometimes. We know how are

the process of the divorceions, of so you have to pay what you

what you have to complete with your kids. The money not

he didn't he was in a pique and he said

that never had had been a man that

had certain things in the life that desv those

resources not dorms and I had and one

of those he he and he he he he

says I'm for favor I need to your

fortality and I need to get to get

to where I'm metied. That night he is going to be and he

says that in the church where he's not more the only difference

is that there was that there much more than the that there. Of

so he heard this voice that he says he's clam to me and

I you'll responder and he's that I've been that I've

been in the So, he said that he's a special of struendo into the church,

and of it's just, like it's like the door. It's that says that I'm

descending a light very, very, very, very strong, very bright, and that

all the people that were there were looking around to see the people,

they were like, like, wanting to try this thing that was

going to and he's he was going, he was a form feminine, even,

it was like a black with a velo, and the people tried to like to

try to to rebat to rebatte or something or something. In the sight said that

the multitude conformed this, this angel said he was he was going to like there

was a person, like if were in the mar and he said that I'm

you're looking to you. Has clamated and you have heard. So he

he says he's like co-kegeous like when he does talk, he says Descargars

Electrical and says that this presence he gave a certain pass and that

he in the dream had the necessity to do that so

when I was to talk to this angelical appeared his mom and

he was interpon between both and his mom at the

first he and then he said no you do you do

so then he so he I was contextualizing here

the mom of Andres she was going to ask she was she always had practiced brugheria

okay then he crecio and no he was he was he was he was

he was always they were like signaled to the signaled to the

not that's the time those are those who were those who they were this

intrigue of why I'm trying this and because mom and she was never

interponying. The reason these dreams were consecutive. He was the same. He in

the church, he was the door, this woman descendia and every

that was this contact with this being this angelical that he mentioned

always always to get to the mom and he was he

then he started to get to For this, Andres, unfortunately,

no, I don't have a good relation with her mom and all was derived by the creencies. I think here

is a bit too, not? How your your creences terminate of the people that

amas? Dice, that the fourth that's the fourth time that so knew this,

to be so, so, that's that's that he was to look to his

mom. He'd to the house and yeah the and he says, how are you?

No, well, pass, let's say, pass, we're going to come. It's a

time that you know, you know, that's a visit. So he kind of in reality

he was more with the talk with her, of what was doing. Because

even I thought that her mom was the was the person that he was going

very, very bad in the and the she was the Cucina, they're

eating and how has been to not? Well, the fact I've been very bad.

And why you've been well? Because he says, well, he said, and the

lady said, I don't know what you do you know. They're to talk a coffeecito

and when they're to go to the patio of the back, he says Andres

that he passed for the quarter where his mom realized his

and he and be there that he has a mesa, he said that the altar,

and in a mesa and there was a lot of this, there was a charola of and around

of that charola of the plastic there were some syrius that were on prendidus. And yeah, it's that

did not important. They went to the back, they were, and the senior

and said, but why not me has been to be? No, well, is that's

that's been very occupied. Even for there the person on what?

Well, my my job you didn't, so so so if

was me do still the conversation and yeah he's crep that because has been

always never with him and he's no you know what a mother

could be to do a child that this comes to get to a discussion

and he he says you know you know you know you know I'm not you

know I'm that I'm feeling recurrentently with where I'm going to

be a for me well and you intervienes tell me the is what

you're doing and the she said, how you think your mother you're going to do you know,

and said, well, you know, as always has been in the side of the world of the

and I see that the things that are you don't want, but I know what you're doing

for me that's getting so much. Obviously, it's quite tense the thing, it's all

andres, and she goes to and he goes to the part of this altar that you've

made a much the attention to that in that's a charola that you mentioned,

There was a figure with cera. And he said that at the beginning I thought that was like of these images that you let's the form, no, your mind. For idolia.

For idolia. Be of reoho and resulta that the figure in the cera like he had the contour of the ser that he'd

all the days in the dreams. And he said, Moma, what's this? And he says, no it toques. So he

he'll agar the charola and he'll be enojured. And he's enugated. In that is going to one of his tios and he says,

no, no, no, even he says this pinche beha with his things. And the Lord

and he says, oh, why you're to be your mom? And yeah he's going. At the

other day, he's in his house and he's saying, God, quit me all maldition

of my mom and reprended all the work that is doing in my contra

because I know you know you want to you want, he's he will to do

and he has exactly the same He said, what I said, he's in

the church and says that he is a but in that moment he says that when

he's the table he says that he can't he can't like he's

that's like that he's and that comes descending this angel that he

he wants and he he says he says clam to me, that I'll he says

he's that he said you start clamando but no me help

in that says that says that's and separate between him and

this angel. In that the woman says that about this and that the woman

starts to cry, and he starts to make to make to do a oration and that this thing

to forcegear with the signate in the human trying to playarse with a

person with a other but he said that the force of mom was more

and that in that moment says that the she says a woman and this

thing this He says that like calcina and says that the two can't to the soil.

That's all in his son. That's a son. He's a two. And that practically was like

the cera, as like like that had seen in the charrola. And he says that he gets

so spantado and he to make to come to my mom that's doing, why evitas

the thing? In this he's your mom just to get to

get to how? He gets to the house et cetera et cetera they're

all the whole and he he's he's quite consterned even was like

so so he was like he's died of the part of his mom had and he

says that I've been very bad and I know my my mom is the badation she's

interponious so he's molesta and he says, no you know you know your mom has done.

Your mom all the time was put protecting. That's what was there in the charola so with the

syrios was for that that they were a work of protection was a was a

work of what you did you do you but something but something was going to

you was like the point that's the iceback of what came for you

no ma my your mom sacrificed for you. He's devastated, obviously,

because for his tonteries to think that his mom was doing a man, and said,

he was doing the recont, his mom never did do so, so it was just only it was like

to help to help to help to get, to help, uh, always, he used

to have to sacrifice things to do things to do things, and so to carry

with his conscience that mom all the time he was trying, in

the the bestion that was for him. When I said, it would like the

mother was more more I think because they're there. There's

no, that there's more than the mother. And what episode so

the reality is that all the stories were very much. I

want to a person that has seen miracles. God exists

and of many forms not precisely like some some people

who are like an energy very very power

obviously of a vibration altissima and that some religions say

in the when you invocas if you get. Desgraciously we we're

stories of people that not you invocated other things even

they said what or we invocated or we invocates like in the story

that you know reclamando we're we're thinking that we we're

we're the right to a But if we do with a heart quite

sincere, I think we can get to get to the support for the people who know,

that's that is the recommendation, buskarlow to look it of the person of the

way in how you you're and I'm sure that you will be the

miracle. I'm here we're we're the people that

not precisely invoked this presence got another for multiple factors but of the

really that's that's aterrador top of this. How do you do you know, it's a good to

be here to be here talking the stories of the family extra normal and be when I know,

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