EXTRA ANORMAL - Historias Siniestras de la Ouija | ¿Me Contacté con Mi Abuela?

Episode Date: December 24, 2024

En este escalofriante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, me acompaña Dafne Silva, anfitriona del increíble podcast Se Regalan Sustos, para explorar historias siniestras sobre el famoso juego de la Ouija. Entre relatos oscuros y experiencias paranormales, hablamos de la inquietante posibilidad de contactar con seres queridos del más allá. ¿Qué ocurre cuando intentamos comunicarnos con el otro lado? ¿Es la Ouija realmente una puerta al mundo de los espíritus? Prepárate para un episodio lleno de misterio, terror y relatos que te pondrán los pelos de punta. 🎙️ Invitada especial: Dafne Silva de ‪@SeRegalanSustos‬ 📌 Suscríbete a Extra Anormal Podcast y activa la campanita 🔔 para más contenido paranormal.

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there's someone here between us? He, he's move rapidly to where is the C.

Deja to be saying things that your abuela you said before to do you know,

and he said, he's she no me he said. I have contact with

my abuela by through the U Yha Median the Ui

I'm going to be able to be able to go to go and the world for people. What I'm going to be able to be able to be a What a podcast extra abnormal. My name is Pacuaria. very happy to be here with all

you're in this occasion I'm sure I'm quite family and we're a company a companyer

of a companyer to work someone who everyone who's you know and that today I'm happy and me

accompany now. Daphne, how you are you very well anxious for this

chapter. The fact is a question about controversial in this world

paranormal. The fact is that well the people can't be the title,

the miniature on different platforms of podcast. Today we're going to talk to the

things that I want to the thing of the wheeha. The Uiha has been

a lot of been known by experts in the theme spiritual, for persons

that have played she had played because in a moment they're to be

that no is a game, that's a kind of a ritual,

a ritual that much sometimes if you don't know you don't you're

informed or not you're capacited to to be able this ritual, this vocation, this invocation, can't be very bad.

Today, the stories are going to talk to that people that, for some reason of the

life, they gave a table to his hands and passed things very turvias.

So, for this episode, me put very content, Daphne, that

you're for the people that you're know for first

first what are your social? Sure that's my people.

I'm in Reds social like Nenukado or Daphne Silva

primarily in Instagram that's in the more I'm in

contact with and and for support in the podcast of and

where I'm on Oscar Herbert and Paco Arias

to talk about about things about and a

little also also in this podcast where we

we us accompanied for that's relagin a little little

listening. Although in the last few episodes have been quite quite very, not Daphne.

Very serious very very fertes and very interesting. I think many of your

part of your family of the extra normal I think this new format

that we don't in they're so so that we're we're

an opportunity to podcast and we're we're we're perfect

Daphne oh yeah a Well, when So, when he took the time,

what we going to talk, the stories that we going to talk, what you

think you and what did you? The reality is that you never has

johua but has been very to what is the

interact with an entity I do give a little

a little the family of extraordinary that here. Right

that we started with the thing to go to embruched,

places with a cargo energetic that's a lot of we're some things to get a

contact to what is in the place. Between those things that we're we're the barillas

of radiesthesia are the areas and you with your energy you can know if

something is there is there this thing. This So, so it's

a little interesting to know because the wihah no function with all. There's

people who intend to use and I say, and this is, but this no reaction.

Dependent much the person. Because this explanation not the Zamuddin in their

moment. There's there a reason for the question for you, with your hand, in

this case with the deado indice, that you put in the cursor,

because preston part of your energy. The same so does

when you don't the vials of radistessia also

they're using part of your energy. So, it will depend

much of the person of that you have a result

there people who says I've never has never never

never and it's true this is real no will be

not because depends to the person and there

and there has a very very very very

that in when they to talk or interactuant with one or other, this reaction

very strong. And Daphne is the person with the person with the last have reacted the barillas of

radistessia. It's we've done with Jassiel, with all the crew, and like very little,

but when you those agarras, that is very notory the, the, how reaction,

how you sentiste when we started when we started when we were,

the moment that we said, to be, talkalas. I said, well, we're going to

see, what is what going to get to and they're to get to move to

so much that's what I'm really, I'm talking to nothing of this,

and it's that you me said, no, I'm saying, and I still I'm

more when I say, it's, you know, so I'm so, I'm going to

make questions, and at moment, and I'm he's, so, as he's he's,

what was, what was the , moment that I asked the moment that I started to nervioed

and then Paco said I'm going to hold your hands to be you not you

don't you're I'm quite quite no no I was I was

was nervous but not me was moving and the bariias they were moving

so much they're like they're so I'm like they they're

so much super super rapid and still when I'm the

questions if us surprised you We've tried this with some

other of the equipment and no no pass it's not so it's it's like

strange and Paco me says that you presentia that you were going to functionar then so

it's too yeah I've had this experience I said at the thing it was something

I'm you know you know you know you know no no no no

but I'm not they just was that we asked if it was a entity that

we just we know we're in we're and we know this and then he's

he's you know and then you know it's where I'm where I did it

there's where I'm there's a first I'm a extra normal where I'm

my experiences with some some some some that I talk about

and this activity that I did with the barillas

me record much at the moment in the

that I lived a experience in where the person that was posseated me said that I could help

so I'm I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I, and I, I, and I see,

I, and I, see, I, I'm, so, I know, I, know, I, know, I, you know,

and the barrials, you, you, I said, you, I, you know, so, I'm,

and they're, so, okay, okay. So, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, well, I did to use the Uiha that would be?

I think yeah. At these altars, I think yeah. The Daphne does one

no? No. Okay. But at these altars, me it seems to

because I know, as you have commented, it has to have a of this table

and there there are people in your people who know, well, say,

you know, if me said, do you solo with some of

your friends, no, I'm going to do it. Sure, sure. So,

the precaution, I always I've said, this is a game, not is a

game, really is, it's, it's a ritual that's to evoke an spirit,

and it's, obviously, like all a ritual just, it's, it's a form,

it's a process, a process, a series, a certain, a a pertur, then I

always I said, it's complicated to find a person that could guide For that the recommendations, not

you know, but if in some moment, you have much curiosity, you have to be conscious of something, one, there's a risk for very minimum, but there's, two, not a game, and three, you need to be the mind

with someone that's and you can guide in case of that something that something, then the requisite are very difficult, for that's the more we say, no.

Exactly. So, it's for this, but as, damning, we're, we're in this, and we need to Adquir also a part of the

knowledge, know of what we know of what we know to do you, because one is the theory and other is the practice.

Obviously, of a time we cross-a- little to the line and we and we're to bring this information for

all of you. I'm not, I'm not I'm not expert, I've done this ritual two times.

The second time, if, if it's not it's not something because it was in the

house of 400 years and it and it's impressive because I of a repent

he up the and this like, being skeptical. Uh, yeah,

there's a part of me that's very skeptical to do you a much things, not is that

not he's, but now my credence has has fortlecid that

that I need to that's like it's like it's experimenting, so experimenting if,

how is that it is that and I'm saying, no, is that it's to

your energy, it's connected to your psych, etc, etc.

But is very for us to have this type of this type of and

yeah that we're talking in this DAF, I don't if you let's say let's do

start with a question with a when the I said wow I want to

say something before to tell this story to the we have to have

much respect and we have to be very very precabied no

is a not a problem and not it's you know you can you can

be more you can be better this is the of Diego. There was a

fiesta people people, chavos, more said, chavos, young,

who were they're out of the university and they decided and they were this and they

all they were in the house of the friend the more good honda,

the more relagist and that is Raphael Raffa for the Quates. So

Diego is a friend of Raffa and many people, many people

and they see in their depa for start a rata you know there's there's

those who they're those who they're the cupita the music they're they're

they're they're they're they're they're that they're for fin yeah

they're to be to the cycle to the life laboral and they

they're like all those young feste and the

detail is that Raff is the friend imprend imprudent, let's

call it the man who he wants to say no me do me do

and then I'm here I'm saying I'm satanasi no pass nothing and say

not going to say no and it was going to be the house of her was the

apartment in this moment he he began he said to tell the

people ohian and if we get this to another level

and the people he says what you what you

In that moment, you know that he he's a table whiha in that and he says, this is, he's going to be very much.

The people, his friends, they're saying, you're talking in serious? Of really? It's in serious?

And he says, yes. And standing in a mess like this, put in the table and

they were all around the mess. In that moment, they were all the rissas. There were

some that were some of those that people that was to enter in an

ambient and you know when you know you you're you're more and so

that's with your friends so you don't let you give the due

respect to the things and they were but nobody didn't

like you know you no no you nobody nobody wanted

nobody didn't say nobody never so that for he's one of

many or born or borrach because he said boy I

and it's when he started to say, there's there's any more here

there's there the people the people and he's and he's to say, I've seen

that this cochinate. And they started to want to try to try to there.

There's there there's there there's nothing. And as a

principle, depends much the person. Go to another person, put the

little and says, there there there So he moved rapidly to where is the C. All so they're impressed.

All right. And they're in the Gouija. And so, I'm going to ask you so, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. So, like, it's like, that's,

that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, and it was, the game. A part of that moment, the operant, he started,

that's all the world said, tell this, and he said, and say, that you. You know, typical questions. I'm going to

get a good employment. I'm going to get a billionary. It was a young that had been

out of the university. So, so, so they were so that's so they said it.

And they were so they were around of the mess. There's a moment

where this game, this ritual, but he's given of RIS and given of

bromas because really all who they were there, no they were doing the serenity

necessary, they did that in some moment the round of the round of questions

were a little more further, because they also they were questions more

questions. When the Uiha started names, but names of people,

all so they're all the first friend Raffa was serious.

He, in his moment confies that he, a part of that

moment yeah not he caused a reason because he's a number of

familyaries of Raffes that are dead. So, Raffa started to suggestionar and to

think, nobody of these people to these people for that me are just

they're I'm not I know. And he started to be to be that this

thing he was giving the numbers that were in

this moment the thing a little a little tensed because you know

that the bromist, the relagist was a little in shock like that he was a really a

riceita nervosa yeah not was a comod in that one of the chica

Roxanna that was there was there was his baby in the mess accidentally

she came in the mess yeah like that that's disbue a

oh rosanna I'm oh I'm don't go for a trap they started

to disperse until Rafa so in the Mesa and he he's

only looking the table intentating to understand what was where Diego,

that is the person that he is the person who he does know that his

friend has had got completely and he he said he said

he was there the initial of a change that he was

to have Raffa many he was a person very extrovertida very

relaxed, very brumista. He was a person very full of a part of that the first

of that moment when he only to him only to he only to look at the table, I knew

that something I was I'm I'm I'm sorry I'm sorry to be to the

I'm at the I'm a lot of him he started a little but nobody he did

pass on the days passed on the days and they they did know that Rafa

really was, you know, it's, you know, he said bromas of that

but the people that he knew knew, he knew, that something that something

that was, he said that now I have new friends, now I have new friends,

but not are and they and he's re- but the people said,

but the people, they were saying, you, I'm, you, I'm

It's not, but the people start to know that he was always he was very changed. Passed the days and

Rafa starts to get to get, like when no doormes in many days,

like when after the person gets to get to get, and he's sitting with

Diego, that's the person that me share the and he says, what you

do you and it's in that moment when Rafa Only it's only to look at the eyes

aghach the mirro and he says me is me's going to something

what what's he kind of he's like he cost about him

because it's the man you never is the he's an friend he's

he he back the he back the and very nervous and

he said I'm still I'm doing things I I

know the night that we he's he's he's

And he began to re-in, thinking that other other brom. But, but at ver the car this time of him, he had a count that if I was, if I was talking in serious, and he says, is in-serio what you're saying? And he

again, he says, yes, no I'm not going to. Incluso, me passed something very rare. And this was of day. I was in the department. I was to go to do a certain to make

somepras, I brought the door, and see a sombrae outside of my house, but very great. It was a

a sombre of the size of a tree. I thought that was a animal but it

was a humanoid. In that moment I was the door and I saw the I'm not

can't be not I don't be able and I see you I'm going to

go to turn the I'm again again again decide to be

to see to do find that he's he passed

something very he He said that he was getting to his house

he was going to the and he he went to the room he said he

he went to get to my department he he went the door

no he he took above of the camera opened the

closet looking a not there no no there

was that I could be nobody the door was

closed the windows they were assegurated. They started that type of

things that they were back from the logic. Because he was a person, a person that was very

very very logical. And he did a point that what he was doing, was not

something, was not a normal or something. In this moment, it was when he confessed

to all this to Diego and he's done that he was living no didn't

sense and that no there was nothing there was nothing. In that moment

Diego, was me incredulo he says that's calm that all to be

that's that's that all that's in your mind but he he's

saying it's impossible that I see a person that into my house

when I go and the door and when I get the the

door is that is with I always I'm

always always I'm always always I'm for the question

that Raffa to his apartment he He did know

that from the window he saw he knew that he said now

see, I'm well, I'm sure that's a person he's

a head, the door, quita the the key the and

and at there nobody. Busco for all all and no

there but he did a question that that was that was

like was a torbegino in the cell said all

was all was in the So there was a disaster, a disaster in a disaster in all the

house, all the thing, someone came and destroyed it, but no was a dron,

because the things of value, there were the television, electronic, domestics, all were

in their place, but simply they had had been the mess, the sills.

He said, I decided not to call to the policeia, me said, no, no, no

he's, he's put, he He put to recoges, to clean the things, but I knew that the things were

turning more fertes. He was done to clean and he was a very preoccupied very pensative

of what he had seen, and decide to go to a mano to go to do and he

went to to say, a little this passed because certainly that night I put to

talk with some people he's me old that's I did and the tasks and

all this and a lot of things. So, he did he give to give us

and give explanations. He acuesta to do to work and then that night

he took one of the paralysis of the sleep more he

he said, he's he could be a figure very great very

great that was in his court but he was he was looking

but he not could move in that moment be

how he put the man in the rostro, tapandole the boca, and he said some

words that he's made totally asombrated. This he said, I'm here, and I'm

real, contestandol a question that he did when he was going to the Uiha.

In that moment, he no could do do, he said all this to Diego.

Diego is the person that the person that he made the Correo. It's his friend.

And he he said that after that was the most important, that there was a

interaction with something that is, his his friends that they were in the

and that they were they did know that he did to assist at fiestas he

went to frequent those and it was that they they were to ask but he

he he was absento even Diego that was his friend

he he said that he the messages, in the the callas and the

nothing, until that one on the car at the car and he was a lot of and he's

that he he said how is that Raffa because they don't me he said

what he said and his mom he said a little a little preoccupated Raffa

not is good he has been he has he has he was that he was

passing for some moments very strange and when we

we we that Rafa, well, ingeria substances illicitas and we we need to annexing it.

The Correo termina saying Rafa today is anxed because his family

thinks that what he has is due to a problem of addiction but the few people

that we know we and we we've been that came to that wejah

we know that's that's that he he had much more time

consuming this type of substances and never never never had never had

had been that he was to start to he's to play a whiffa

but his family don't know his family think that's a

thing of an day to be on the day of it's a

story recent that that yeah and what what

How it's that the family a or in many occasions

to the people of the one of the people that one has that you

sometimes us cost to do because you know, because you don't you're

to think you're to be to be a loco or of so I think

in that in that I'm also I'm I'm saying no me

going to make more then exactly exactly that so

Like, a story that us parted a other that's

she called Diana. She is the that envia the

and we told that they also they they were that they were

to be a they're a old Augustine Diana and

Octavio were the good because they were to they're

all together you know the typical groupito no that

they put and they Sucidio something that changed

the life for complete. Octavio was in his house

she was back he's he got to the head

and that he he cut the for them

for a situation very difficult and they were

so they were they didn't much to a

much a so they're they they're all that

was part completely Absolutely. Agustin recalled that in a fiesta, I had talked with a

child that between platics and all this he told that she had a tableer of

her and that she was to contact to his people, that she not were

in this plan. Augustine he kept listening because because,

as as I said they had extranav, a Octavio, to his

friend, and he recorded that she had this table there's a

contacta to be she and the she's, and the little she,

she, pass for her. With me no function, I know, I don't

I don't I can make, that I can't work, but at the better with

she, he said, no, he said, no, simply was with the

she, And he went with Diana to try to convince her to use the whiffa. Diana not was very, uh, because I sentia that it was an activity that was to provoke things malas, no? He had a fear and all. But after a time that Augustine was trying to convince her, well, then he said,

okay, we're going to put us to agree to, to see what is what we're going to do. The night that they decided, uh, to, well, to play the Uiha, they went to the apartment of Diana,

and they sat down both, so in a mess, they were the table and they

put it only a light that would the table. And they put it

and they were the environment more that they were that they're to admit

that if they were nervous, although they were they're not not express

it much but but, but was they asked to ask the

Augustina Diana, do you think that this is certain? I

show, nothing more. He says, that no, no exist this, but, but we'll

know, he said to Diana, well, yeah, how we're we're we're doing the

we're we're we're not we're doing this, with this we're going to do.

Well, it's all right, we're to try, we're going to try to let's

put in the hands on the cursor and the first in question something was Diana.

He said, Octavio you're here? No It doesn't nothing. They're

in silence. No, there was no movement or nothing. Then there then he's a lot of

and he says, oh, for favor, Octavio. If is that you're here, ask that something to

move because we're about. Do you? Do you? Yeah. They're not. Yeah.

They're like to be a point of retiret because for Augustine they're spending

the time. Sure. Without they're at the few seconds commenced to move

the cursor solit. They're looking to see some of them was doing a purpose or were

moving them the cursor and they were quite astombrated for what was happening. A

despite that both were to be able to be able to be quite tensos. Then Diana

susurra Octavio is you and the cursor and the cursor to move to the

see. So, it's where they're where they're going to to tremble the

two also, you know, that they're quite and they're quite a

think that that's going to understand, Augustine intent to maintain the

calm, because was the man, he was there, and he had to

be sure, but it was quite that it was an incomod, Augustine he said,

you know, you know, you know, and the cursor, and the cursor, newament, yes.

Diana he said, no, you know, you know, you. So, all

quite, very, direct, the responses, and at the seconds to move to a little like if had gotten

a little bit of the cursor, and they're to make questions a little more directs about what they're about what they're

saying, Diana, he said, Octavio, what was what was this night? How was

that you went? And the cursor is to get a letter by letter? And they

let's do understand that it is where they're they're they're saying that's what

what's happening we don't know really because we're doing this

start. They're to think yeah that Octav I want to give us a message

a lot of what he had been what he had been and he said, what you

talk Octapi no was what they said. Wow. And there is

where they're saying, you know, you know, this is saying, you're

going to come from here, then we're that house. The coincidence here was that both sonned with Octavio, but

were dreams very different. In the Swayneuxin, Octavio was in a place quite obscure, with neblina, and he he would have Augustine sentado, like with a rostro, like if not had, uh, no, uh, no expression. It was a, it was a bit more than disfigurated. And so he He kept seeing Octavio Agostin in the

dream and he says, you know what I did, really? Nobody was neither you, nor Diana. I was involved in the

murder of Jairo, he said. Jaird was a kid of the school that he, he, he gotraring between various

people, he started to gopired and, lamentably they've been but nobody knew that

Octavio was between those people that they had got So, there in that moment, Agustin waspented, with the

heart accelerated, and he said, well, it was a dream. Nothing more I'm trying. No, no, no is nothing. Nothing of this, no? And, for the contrary, in the dream of Diana, Diana, could

see to Octavio, but he was preoccupied, and there was something around the place in where they were, that was very rare, and the,

the only that Octavio could say to me to say to the Diana rapidly was, I'm not I am I am only. No, I'm

who is talking. Tengen care. No, man. So, then Diana, he's just a year, and she

despirte too spentada and says, we're doing the things bad, and said, no we're doing this. She's preoccuped

clearly because she didn't start a o'Ira, he had a fear. And then with this

dream that he has, where Octavio he says that other person or other ent or something was

what he was what he was responding and no he, he said that Diana, then to have

accepted to use the U. When he said, you know, this is this is too

bad, I think we need to do it. I'm I'm I'm sorry. The person

that is Octavio, we have to accept that Octavio no we're not? I'm I'm

so I'm, so I'm so there he said Augustine, and what is supposed that

we're I said, Diana, no I know, but I'm sure that what is that's saying, no is our friend. He says, hey to par. He's a pretty tense, the amistat. They've got to be for some days. They're trying to, you can't use the table. And when it was all this,

they were, they said, you know, we have to finalize all this what we're doing. We're going to contact to Octavio or to what that's say that we're responding to see what is what is happening. The last time that used the Uiha, the words of Octavio

were quite and horrible. The cursor was moved to the word no, when they asked if really

was in peace. So, so they were much because his friend not was having the peace that

they were they were. Then they asked them if his murder had been an accident

and the cursor again he put in no. It was when all of

all of it was it was it was more more more than what

they were the quayb definitive of this story was when Octavio said

that he he not had died that he really he really he really

he was had been pertenes the group that had got

had he was he in the table. Diana a quite a

pretty and preoccupated and decided in this version and there

was where they were where they were what they were that were years

for that so that's up and after the

time came said that not had been an accident

that that his he had got that was

the Uiha's he said. That's one of the risks is one of the reasons that the people who are in WIHA

can't that the entity that are invoking in that moment is to make pass for a family or

for any that you know that you know, for what you take a more of confidence we'll remember that there

is a type of spirit the entity that can know your past and of you can

desequilibrary to you and where you you're disequilibrous you because where when

it's a pegate in the level there's there's when you there's

there's a bit of a bit of influence so then it's the you're

you're to be very free independently for example if I just I'm saying the

name of my abuelita maintain much the calm maintain

because where where I'm put sentimental that what they did. Exactly. Exactly. There's where there's where they're going to happen things more

furs. I want to tell the history of Patty and Toño. They're just primos. This story is called Inquilinos. Patty and Toio are two primos that all the time have been the fascination with the thing paranormal. They're the

primos, the locoes of the family that they'd enjoy people of terror, that they'd enjoy They wanted to tell stories of terror, all the time, appassionados for all this. Always was the attention,

and all the time were attracted for the theme paranormal. And it's curious because it was mutal. He suggested,

even to be a movie, when other members of the family said, no, you're like, Pat,

he said, and vice versa. So, they were, they were, and constantly visit them to his abuelita.

So, was a woman that was a great terrain where was his house and in this terrano the

abuelita had various departments in rent and some were still in an over black but

it was a terrain very great so they they were they used much to go to the house

of the bula and in the nights to start with lamparas and say we're going

to explore the terrain to the the bula and they had they were those

departments vacions one one is adrenaline, no, to and to be in some place with the

lights apagas and that they were a time. One a time while they

were playing one of the one of the quarters that the abuela

rentable soupo and in that moment the person was going some

they were they had the custom to explore and enter and that time

they were to they were to get in the meza, there a caja with some pertenances,

there are they are chismosos to see, and in those they're in them to a table whiffa.

When they saw, they they were, they were, they were, they were one of others to

the car with a kind of you can you can't create it? You can believe it?

We have weh here? And they obviously super fanatit of the thing

paranormal no doubt in that moment, in that time, in this

time, and put her and put it. Any they were to go to

just they're asking, who started first. In this

moment, Tonyo said boy, and it's the session

when toio when Toio question between a and nervio,

we're we're allos for his surprise he activated very rapid

the punterer in when he he he wants the question

he go to and he says no they they were

in this moment that not they were uh in this

moment the nerve the adrenaline that they were doing

something he started to to to start present and

was when after they they then the response

they they are much more in that they They knew that they were, they're entering in the

game, they're asking, again, who are you? And in that moment, the cursor started letter by letter, and formed the word Brenda. They knew that if there was someone and that's called Brenda. In that moment,

they'll ask the question, how many years you have? And, again, the puntero go to one and to the 10. 10 years

had Brenda. They were excited because it was like an ascertigo, to try to know what

was there, and they started them to make deductions is a little she named

Brenda, he has a 10 years, and there there was a moment where the

Uiha didn't ask questions to know more about that that year

and the Uiha yeah no responded They're talking

between them, intentating know because not to know how he's

not and he was he said and then he's here, he's

a little that maybe he's he had and again

and again the wika and the puntor so in

this moment they they're what you want what

you want and he and rapidly form the

word to go. They're one of the others when in that moment in other department

they're in an gulpas of a door of and they spantan in that moment the bula

was to be that was that were to be there was that they were in that way they're in

that moment they're simply they're they're and they they're to be

to be to be to be the woman the bough had a

perro that's a son the perrough us narrs

that he gets but the per when passed for the quarter

where they were in the entry but he was to

grunier let call the that the person that he

knew all the where he was where he he he

he he he began and the and the old

he you you what you can you he's

a lader like if he was going a person in that in that's like if

he's going to someone that's the person, he does the

person and then he's to get to the part of the department so they

didn't do you don't they and then the person he says

but it they're that they're they're that they said the perrito

was always was kind of sofocated but it was like

he did something that maybe some type of roedor that was

that was he was and he he was he was he got and they're to do

and they know no no no no was about nothing no

had any any any there and it's where the things not

not quadravan but patty and toio know that

this was that they was produced for what they were too they were

they were they were they were had been something was a pretty

very and that night those two have and then patty

thought something she's something she he said he he didn't

he until the moment that he was to the

time he had a pesid a bad she

she she she she see a this need

a brand and she was she she she

she this she she he says, why not me you

want to do you do with my my papas but I don't know I'm

she she's she's she's a lot of very sudada and she

does know that what he was something was something was a

real and after the day he he told to

to know what he had so he for this

and have passed a little a time and

the the inquin of the other departments they said that

they started to have apparitions strange. The inquinels went to the apartments and they said

that they were sombras including some people they were they were at the door at the three

of the morning and they had nobody. So the rumor in those departments

started to start great and some and some and some they were but

buttie she was she was she was she was and I'm and suingable. It's

was rare because she was was the most sensible. It was the that was the help. And they thought

that if she was a little bit of a little. In a moment she, she was tired to sonnard

with this entity, he said, I'm going to say that I can't help her and that

he'd be in peace. That night he was to come with her and it's when the confront and

he says, I'm in peace, de-molestarm. And sporadically she left like to be

this girl like this that this that had done had done but it was a

very curious the morning that she she had she's all out of the patio and see a

and see a sultan etchadit there and he he shh the sultan come

and the and the perro not he was he was he was he was he was

he was he they were they're they're they're not they're not when

They were at one They're They're They're And they're And they're They're He's done

For Rory For Patti Because It was much Coincidence that the night that She has

to to know to this She's her mascot is dead So she

She started A little a little of MED But at MOY But at

Morg Mordimento Thinking that for what had done the

Perro was died. He told this to toio, his prim, yeah very very preoccupated.

And Toio he says, I'm going to confess to say, you go to say something. Really

never was the puntero. I was I'm going. No, you know, you're a problem that

I was doing. Patti, he's a courteau saying, I know know that Tonya

me meant you, because yeah me very spantada and because me was preoccupated for what

what he was He's atreve-a-mentirme for that I calmer. But I know that what was that

last time that we have was a very certain. Toio had a much fear. I was

I know, I know, and I know I know that I'm saying, and now that me

that was that was that was that was to try to try to try to

but I know that's what he matto a our perro

was the entity that I rechase now here I'm the story

I'm I think a well a conclusion so so is how

so it's a type of influence of when when you

when you start and you then you start and and

and it's and it and you see create a a

so then I I'm sure that the entity that they invocated not were

a little little a year of 10 years. That's what did or he did for

to gain to their confidence of them. And one that they had the confidence

at saying help me I want to come me, I'm like a I want

to enter but to you then so that so that he did was like

a doors, mark limits, that this in magic is very valid, and as a vengeance,

they're to get a man, or even could have been to have been to her, but

we've said that when there an attack a energy the mascotas

almost are the ones that they're to get to the time.

So, in my conclusion no was a new was a more

very, very dangerous. Yes, it's that, as we said, as it's complicated, well, to be, if no is something more

what you are what you are doing the table. If not is something that's that's inganing and that for your sentiments,

it's doing that you think that's a little, no, in this case, like the little, or in one

occasion, I remember that you know, that you know, that they were a contact also,

you know, I'm saying, I'm, the reality is that I'll say said abertamint, the times that we've

done contact, or is that is that is really a entity that is trapped in that

time, but also can be a entity that that we're that we're that we get us in

that we see another other thing. So is that is the malo or what he does it

what you can't invoke to have to have interaction and then you

can't convertile in a vocation is not you don't have no

certain that what gets is a good. So if you can't talk to maybe a

spirit that's that's a trap and that needs to pass information

as a kind of but it that's that's the risk to play Uiha

yeah so it's important to talk to all those who those who we're

being that really really not a game not is something you

do you want I'm I'm want to want to try to

And if they're to make that are that's consequences can be very grave, that can

be things that maybe not you can't you can't take during much

time. So, not it be an simple, as a kind of as well,

as it doesn't, a game, because not it is really. Now,

the story that I'm to talk Paco us let me to

Bruno and this is a story It has its parts Lindas and also some parts that if you

impact, no? Bruno always had had been a relation distant with her abuela,

Eugenia. No, they'd much, not they'd much, not convivian,

because for his papas, the abuela was a case peridid. That woman has

had creencers raras, said. That woman has a practice oscuras, almost satanical,

has to count that they thought that the abuela was a mother a woman

a woman because for them for them was a Christiana was all. So,

so all what they would not were Christian obviously they were they were

and not they were someone that had that had those practices rareas

as they're they because clearly under the things

of them this was wrong. But Bruno that is the chico that

is the story, well, all this was that he could get more about this.

I'd enter to about the rituals that his abuel did, the things of course

that supposedly she had she was about more stories about of magic,

of things rare that had heard to talk to her and also

had something that her always said that was that was the

other other other that. Because his abuela always said that there things in the other side.

No, I could avoid this situation, Bruno, and this curiosity, he was to

look to a little more to his abuel. Every that he could, he was

he was to be to visit her. It were rare at the occasions in that he

could get to get to a house of Eugeneia and and in an

occasion, he clearly he said, well, you want to learn of this

what you do you do you I want to know what is what you're doing, how do you do you do, and for what serve. His parents, clearly, never will be able to permit to do this,

nor investigate about what the mother did. So, in those times that he was going to go to visit her, I'd appreciate her. Eugenia, always, tranquil,

he'd explain to all these things, and he said, that the spirituality not was a little but that had to try her with respect. there's a phrase that her abuela

he said and that I think that's quite clear precise and I'm really much

there's there's but the fact that you know you know it means that no

exists so so so so he's he said I think

I think these practices that my abela realisa are something

is something but you have to know it was

during He was to do something that he changed the life. His abuela, for the first first, he showed the he said,

he said, this is to contact with the other other side, that were the words that he had heard, that he

explained, Ogenia, that this they could use to contact with spirits, with persons that were not

in this plan, with familyaries and, et cetera. No is a game, but

so dangerous if you know what you do you say, he said his abuela. He showed how to put his deados, how he did all the process, put those deados over the cursor, both, and

they started to ask questions. At the moment that they said the question, the cursor so they asked if there was some spirit in this place in where they were

in the place, where he's moving to the si, and there Bruno he's kind of impacted and says what is what

is the first the first time that he is living this, no? And, they're going to do other questions. And here is

where Bruno says, who is, and the cursor, he's a mark the name of

Marco. Marko was the abuel of Bruno, the husband of Eugenia,

that had fellecided when he only had two years. So, technically not he

he, he didn't know, he was he was so, because he had

had with his mother about how had been his life when was the abuel, all of all that

he had a connection between the and he was and he was fascinating

the of the although he not in this time. The session during a

little music and the but also was emotional for all what was going to and not

you're going to when one does and experiment things new for you, it's like, I'm going to do it,

like you a lot of emotion, and that's what Bruno sentia. In his visits

posteriorer, I always he said a abel that repitia in this session and that he

he wanted to talk with his abuel Marko, no? In some of

the occasions they've got to contact with him, in other occasions contact, contact with

some other things, then they'd they'd have a message brief, and a lot of these sessions. With the past of the

years, Bruno, he's commenced to questioner a little more about this, decided to

learn about what he did his abuel, and also question about what his parents

he said in the house, and all the words feas and how they were to

their practices that she had been. All this she does she has he's

going to get to get to the they're going these words because he's they're

because he tachable to be a mother to be a bad if when he was

she was very well and he he wanted a much to her and then then he

he started to be the other other other mode there there

there there was in the conversations with her that she think that she

not was a mala and that was never never had done a person, then I don't

understand why his parents don't want to know about her. A sometimes

between risa and bromas they said certain words irientes his parents

or his family to his abel and he he's incomodable about

a lot in occasions when I went to the church I heard

how there in the church, because they'd condens to these practices or

to do the people who did what his abuel did. And clearly Bruno, he sentia

rarro, no? He was really a little, and also he was also he was playing

all these questions. So, like, he kept the sack. Okay. Passed

many years, after this what I talked, and, Lamentableable Eugenia

perdyed the life. For Bruno was a And a good super-furt because he

was used to get to get to his abel to be a little to her and learn to learn

of her so. Fortunately, something that did that Bruno was to feel

was that was that he could recover that he that did that the relationship

between Eugenia and he was a Uiha was what was he was he was

he took her and he took her and he had a lot of knowledge

about this so, then it's clear that he could

do that he could do the time. A couple of years after he decided to go

to visit to his parents for a dinner and he said well,

we're going to give the opportunity. It was a little

about the question that not he liked that they always that

they're the thing of his abuel. Obviously, the comments negative about her

a past that he's not in this plan. The father of Bruno,

Gerardo, he's his discurs about what he called the obscurity in that he

was always for him was a person a person full of bad things

and here so is and here was where Bruno perdi the control imagine

that you want to you and that I don't stay here and the other are still talking pestes of this person

obviously you're going to reactionar and you're to want to want to you're going to you're going to

don't you don't you don't get to say you my abuel my abuel always to his

last the last the last what you say you to say you a past of

how you you're and that you never wanted to you

never you know you know you Today, he's doleering that you

say, like if for your creensions were you a person to be in all those

who are you. You always about your God when all the time rechastast to the person

that you did the life, he said Bruno to his papa. So imagine these

words that your father, of your and he said, only because she didn't think they

in the same, it's unjust that you comport is so.

Gerardo is he kept being confused and he said, he's

dole too that the father never that he said, he's

because never he's he's he until the he does

dole that you dole the day of you know, and that you're

that you know the message and his brothers that were there present the

brothers of Gerardo they They started to look like, what's saying this a child, no? And so, it's super rare.

So, Gerardo, the papa of Bruno, he started to say, A bit, calmate, let's be saying things that your

abuela you did before to die, and no-se- what, and he said, he's that he said,

I don't mean I'm talking to my abuela, mediated the U-Ira. And there was where he exploded,

and his pap He gave a big a great because clearly your son, the person that...

The gravity of the thing... Exactly. So, when he, he's going to all this, he's

gone and all, his tios they're going to investigate all the words that had said this

Bruno, about that he was tapando. They had been an restaurant that had been

opened, no, they had much. And there was, they were doing

some bad Gerardo, the father of Bruno. And so that was

that was, and so So they did know that what said to Bruno was and there

was where he was that they said how is that he was that's because supposedly

his abuel he said he said he said he is that he's still of his

kids that that is that are that is the day of today Gerardo still

still still without the word to that is the person

that he's the person that he Bruno still contacting with him

more than wow. That's so that's so pretty. But what's

interesting at the time. I'm going to say something to say a audience that no

he will doleer but he will dole to the people that

people who dole to believe and it's that the reality is that

biblically not there is a thing a thing is

a part of all his facet and how can be

you you justs of your man, as the same the same gravity, if you

do you do any of offense against your progium. So, not we

not we not we're perfects, or, not, or, for,

for, for, for, for, for, for, we can't, we can't,

we're more, with a made, you've made, so, so,

so, so, I'm, to finalize my participation in this session,

I've said this session In this session of stories that have to be with the

Ujah I want to revivir a classic of the canar a story that in the moment

was told in more a year and that has been of my stories favorite

fiftes fiat there there are that are that are that they want to

in some part of internet but to revivers sometimes when I think more

than a year is sufficient to be to record this classic this

me he's David has about two years David actually

in Tepanko Puella and what he live with the Uiha for me has been

of the things more because they've an problem of

a problem and a thing in the years 90 in

a little in a Pue Pue that had many

many even only only only He, in that then, he was a

secondary. A second a secondaria a special. In this secondary, he said that there was a

rumor of a passio, a big legend, of that his school was a place, was a

place a entity that was a little. He said, all people, about the

little that was in the salons, and as was a school that was

on the street, even the people who transitable and they were in front of the school,

they'd a little in a little and when the people was to get to be more to get more

and the image of the new is going to be defunating and so it was a people

going of the legendas but the that was that was the school was the one of

a new. And this this new supposedly nace the legend because there was an alumno

of a student of a of the school, there was a poe, and this

little he, unfortunately he's the life, and there is the legend of

the famous man who see in school. Well, he was he's limping a salon,

a pupit that's because he can't, for, he's put to do the

house of an aula, he's they're to make a salon that more that was

a salon that was a lot of pupitres empole a lot of moules,

sues, estants, yenos of books and caches and there were like the people who

were like there's more of 15 years. Then he took to cleaner a disaster.

At the grade of that was so much because they put to do it because they

put it to and it was a lot of that's, he got a a car very great that was

in the part of a river of a repis and when the time he's a

Pulvadero and he called the attention one a oja that was a little to give to go back

to get a Julian he he said he called the attention and he did a

question and the mochila and the I think a yo-you was like a little was like

but after back he found a table whiha when he he was

no saw in that then exactly what it was. But he called the attention

because the description that he is Paco is a whiffa a waha

quite conservable even the material of the was made a cedro pesable

was what was what that in the caja peser that I'm the

attention the sun, the luna the the abacedary

for being the I'm think that was a something

but I had like some times that But who Julian? And why never

they never they never? The case is that he's a purr to clean

and he made a whiffa in his mochila, colgarsela and go and get

to your house, he's he does know that exactly was exactly it was

a table but not sure that how it was and he decided

guard her above of her camera. In that moment at the day

the next in the school and to talk to his companyers and he said what he he said what

he said a whiffa and they they're going to explain to explain to that is occupied to talk about

with spirits you can't talk with spirits only do this this or this question, and that

you're going to respond and he started to say how and they said but take care

because for those adults this is to be taken like something they can

they can they can they can casti and he he in when

he went to the school, he goes to the room,

and he's a little and he and he and he and he

started. This was doing a practice a very because

yeah the time to get necessary to go to go and

yeah he's part of his activities primordial and

he generated that because he wanted he wanted

all the time more more questions and more responses

and And he started to do a lot of questions and he's generated, well, you know, something that's very

dangerous when you guys the whiffa because we know that that's something and exactly

is what what happens in this history. When he generate a vincal, the changes

to be very notorious. He started to have pesadillas, he started to be somebras

in his home, he started to have changes that even his parents they

they get to say, David, you're doing, you're doing drugs or

something? No, mom, no, Papa. It's that we have seen

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was very notory. And, and then they were to be marcas. What's

what was? You're you're in the street. And it's when he was

he was obligated to say to tell to the truth. And he said,

that that you that time, that that day that I came very

very time was because not me kept playing football. I I got castigued

because I play with a companyer and I made to clean a little

a salon and I found this and when they he's

a whiff he me he's in the and they did a

tund and one for burtar because his parents they said

we don't we we're not we're to bring

that to bring that the car because that's something and

they're they started to start and is where he confiesa that no

he could do not he had a sombras that he was very un-tranquil and at the

man, the brother of his father was a person who was a person who's a time.

And they say, well, I'm going to give to my mano to take to take a limpia

and they're in the process of the when he comes to get to the house of

his brother, the brother of his brother of his father

he they're to start with with Aseights and

he did know that there moments where he sentia much going to

goate, sentia the I'm going to lastimar to who's and his

father. The problem of David is grave because we're we're we're

we're we're going to make more sessions because with one not is

sufficient. David us when when they when they they're the first

intent of liberation, in instead of that the things were calmered, empeorated. Dice that the entity that had in dreams, it was a real in the life real.

No, it was a imagination or a thought. It was a quite. Incluso, there were

moments where this he had to talk and he was a manasable. And passed something

very rare. David lived a little the school. But David, when when he

is to sleep, Despertable in the patio of the school. In the part of

the post, there he'd he'd he. He no saw how demonio

was out of his house, because his house had a

key, he had a cardado, he he was he he

and how was that he was that he was his parents

many many many many were worried with his

family and if we said we have to make more limpies, more limpies. So, in that moment,

David, preoccupated, because I said, I don't me want to get to be a post. I mean,

I can't get to get and I'm going to tell. He, in that moment, he called the name

of that the old alumno, Julianian, and he said, I'm going to ask a,

to the Maestra Tere. The Maestra was the master with more antiqued

in the school. And I want who was Julian, and, well, to see what's about, because I have this, and it's when I discovered

something, something else. Resulta that Julian was the child that had caught to the pozo in first grade. He no

said. She said, Julian, was the alumn of the first grader that came to the pozo. And his family us told that he

had a diagnostic of a form of a formality because he had been in persecution all the

time, he was we got to we got to that's great accident and he surprised that

you know he says that you know I found a car with this he says

that's no never be in the salo that that's he

did give to his mom in this probably probably

probably for what what simply in instead of entregal it,

they were and he went there. And was what he found David.

When David he said this real to his and his father,

and to understand something. They were to repeat a cycle. The same entity

was a same form. Hegave not posseed as but if

was a preensable to someone, in that young, he was

to do it. So, he was the second time. In this moment,

the Tio he said, we're going to practice him another liberation, but in

this occasion, now that he has this, bring in the Uiha, trynla to come.

And he starts the session, and he says that this Tio calls more

people, colleagues that had this conocimient ancestral, and he said

my Tio, me was doing a ritual with bells, with essences, other people started to

godeer the whiha with liquid flammable and they began to fire. While

me I'm was there was there there's a moment. He's

disvanes but before before disvanes to be how the wigas started to

get to and started much humo black, much, much um, black, but in the hume, I

I got to, before desmalled, I managed to be how they'd draw them rosters, so with boxes very great, and in a moment I

me desvanesco, and fortunately I've got dis-vinculars of the entity that was, well, that's one of

the cases of Uiha that made a much time, the Uiha of the school the Uiha that was a badita

and it's one of the classics that I think I'm to remember because we're

they're going to how they're repitting certain cycles and how is the

way of the work much of these these if not you know

the the cadenita and it's and it's and it's and it part of

because there there some there some there there

are and are the misas that they're contesting when

you're when you this is the case of the this is the case of this

that I'm talking because she she he's a contact with a

entity with that also that's that's okay Paola

had 16 years when uh uh, uh, uh,

uh, he changed he came the life for completely, her

mother, lamentably falleceo. When this happened, she has to go to live with her father. His papas

were separated and he had some years. So she grew with her mom and with

her father, even even that had a relation, well, more

or less, no was the best relationship of father and then.

So, he cost it much to move with his

father, who was in other city, the Mr. Samuel. So,

then, no no way, he had to go to him. He went to be a change

quite for her and it. This relation with Samuel, his father,

was a little distant. The Tristesa of the death of the

mother, was, he was, she was, a grad of depression quite a lot.

She was a passed yorento, I felt a sometimes that she

had a little that she was sitting. She passed hours

atostated and talking with the photo of the mother. Only

I was the I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm because

she had because you have so I'm pretty

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm the last the

night and you know as being alone so

see more the absence of the person that we're so

during the night she was a lot of she was long as

long as the night until the moment in the time

she was a day was in the school and between

conversations that he got he heard that one

of they said that they they're they they're

with the more with the people that They were in other plan. At the beginning, Paola

thought that was a problem that his companions were because a much of them would be talking about these questions paranormal

and things rare that they invented they were to be used to be a idea of the idea of

contact with the more to Paola he was quite interesting because he said, and if

if really can't contact to my mom? to talk with her and to say what I feel? So, no tardu much in decision. That was the point clave for her.

Thinking that could be able to talk with her mom. So, one night, Paola expected to that his father would be to doormier to go to his cartel and take her money. This, to be able to buy her a table o'iga, and to do what she had planned. At the other day, very time,

it was to make the supermarket because in this time these tables those were in

the supermarket they were they were so they were so it was very easy to acquire and for

it was very easy to go to to the supermarket to

go to and she didn't not think in the consequences never

never so never he was that the same night without that his father

did a counter I don't know that he had never that

he was he he's in the court he he he

made to make this activity to try to contact

with someone put his on the and he

said he said you don't no no Trotting to

encounter that she that she had been that she and the more than I'm yeah.

Yeah was almost for to give for venced because no longer to contact

with nobody and not functioned and so he said well I'm going to try

one way to be what you get a little too because I said

I think this is false and only I'm going to go

and just that night that she was decided to to leave all this,

will be a question. There's there's a moment in the moment inmediate of your

question, the cursor is to move to the she. She's, she's, I don't

know that was what he had to do, but he going to ask, I'm going to

say, Mom, you're you, and the cursor, she's move to

the new. Okay. So, then she was still more nervous because

then the who's the who what I'm talking if not my

mom no? Who you're who the table he

respond Raul she she she kept a tonita and

he says how you and he he he he

also also I'm that I I said I these these

things always sometimes they always you want to like

you know or something tern. Inoffensive. That's. Paola, quite

confused because I don't know if to have maybe think that he's inoffensive, as you

do you say, he's he's going and they're talking and this entity called Raul

he told that he had many years in this place. And he said

a little clave. I'm I'm here before that Samuel came.

Samuel is the father of Paola. Wow. Passed the days, and she gave her contacting with this entity, she

put Raulito, because her amistat she was quite very close, she appeared there. Oh, to talk to

talk to her. She was a very much, exactly. So, it's an thing that she was going

with him. One night in her room, in the court to Oscuras, was, he came

that time to try to her and her Ola, she accosted, Abraso the

almoada, record to his mom and he he said to tell you I'm so I'm

because you don't you're I'm too. While he was the

light of the light he was he went to a space that she had

in the room and he was a spanted the moment and he

he went to where supposedly was the person no there

never to the back to the mirror and see seeing

seeing being this somber. Okay. So, so, Tranquilla,

Debe be, Raulito, no me to be to be a spontal. So,

after this a sust he, he said, he said, she's she's, but no

can't be here with you. Tranquila. I'm also, I'm also, he said,

then there is where Paola's done that actually was Raulito, the that was

there was there, completely surprised, and I didn't, so I'm real or

was a dream and, uh, despite of this, when you know to

a raulito in the hispego, yeah he was going to he was that he

was a wayha. So, yeah, yeah this entity was with her.

Yeah, I had the power. Day a day, at the time that I was

he was behind of her and supposedly was his friend

so so for her had had to talk with him, when she wasntive. It was like

a friend with him that washugab. Never he told to nobody about what she was

living in that moment because clearly they were to say, they were to say,

he was going to say that was doing, then he decided to be all this and he

said, no, didn't a his papa. But in a fiesta of a

family, where was all the family, some people, He said that one of his tios

He asked with his father and he said, Samuel, you still still you see the

little the boy's? And there was where Paola said, my papa says about

Raulito. And she the first that was that this coincidencia would be to make

that the relationship and she were more because he said, we're

going to have to have to something. Something something, something, something,

something, something to talk I'm going to I'm going to my father because as well

the relationship the relationship between the relationship not was a good relation of father and I'm

so it was very when she he was she was decided to say to say

to say when he's and he's to get a his father and he said he's a father and he's

I'm to talk to what I'm this this I'm a table

I'm I'm contact and so and so And the reaction of her when she

said this not was the she was the she was her his father in other to talk

to her she put like he he was a he said you're gonna you're gonna because

you're all this where is that that's a so she put so very aggressive with her

she she took the decision to give her the table and he said

I'm my papa no I think that you were to put to put

to put of her rompio the table and he said, no, well,

you're going to you're going to get to get to the end of it's not so it's he's not

so you never more going to this thing Samuel he was with her and the

exorcisar because for him this was the perdition then he was

he gave with the the bula the she put an

little extra in the front and he to Paola, like if

was a posseid, no? So, she was only she kept observing like what's she was going, because...

She was conscious. She was, was conscious. No, was there. It was not strange for

her and I said, why me do this? Why don't me believe? And so, then a

part of here, was where the family began to look at rareo, they were

saying when they they were like that is, it's the rarita, no?

So, they were very respectively for all this of what they're

that she really not that nobody knew that and a part of what happened to the he said to

her father and they gave them and they all they're so they're so this not had

functioned his papa was more distant of her and a past that they were

for her and that all the family he was he did for his being-stair

and went to bendic his house and all, Raulito still there with her.

Sigured being friends, they were talking, no had tabla or nothing, and even so,

they were still having contact. The relation between Paola and his papa was

was fractured more, they were distant, they were not so and in occasions

the he reproachable that he had been bad last nights and that soni

with the child because he said I'm I'm for your, because you you called,

I said, the culpah that he not was a good night. The rechazzed of his

father and of all the family paterna and of what they said and they said, he said

that Paola yeah more grand to take the decision to get to the family of

her mom because because no she sentia in the place in where where they

didn't and Paula see the correo contando us that after

after 30 years, she still using the Uiha and even after after

she contacted with her mom, yeah he got to contact her because that she

she took the first she used the Uiha know a Raulito that on day

of today still still being so no man she still still standing

with her so so we know we didn't another other and here

there's of the few cases if it was Ah, then a spirit real? Yes, it was a spirit

real. But no demoniac. Like the other. Like the other, like, like, it was a, it was called

for, so. So, then it's here where I I don't, Pucko, and are that sometimes

surgen, how to know if, if, if is something good, and if, yeah,

we've seen, people who have, people who have, they're, who have

are their friends. What is that when no culminate in a possession,

is when we can't say, if it's an entity, but not you

want to do you know, like people who carry mortals, many as protection,

um, to activate the don, as they say, they're they're used to live

with that type of entities, that only what they want to many times is not

solos. Because nobody does see and nobody they don't listen. So when they're in

part of you but not they want to get to die. And other other times are those that culminate

in your more posyndote things very turbias but are little the cases

that are so. Yeah. After after 30 years we said Paola

that still being being Raulito with her and she still

doing doing doing this practice. That what what

to start this episode. How you got to do you? Excellent. I'm going with more

more than I do. No, me la no, I'm very much thanks, thank you. Thank you.

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