EXTRA ANORMAL - Historias Siniestras de Semana Santa: El Lado Paranormal de una Tradición Milenaria

Episode Date: April 11, 2025

En este revelador episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias se une a Jesus de Nazaret Martinez del podcast ‪@PodcastMasAlladelMiedo‬ para explorar los secretos y misterios paranormales que se esconden tras la solemnidad de la Semana Santa. ¿Qué leyendas, milagros inexplicables y sucesos paranormales se han transmitido en medio de las procesiones y rituales?🔹 Historias y leyendas ocultas: Relatos de eventos inexplicables y fenómenos sobrenaturales durante la Semana Santa.🔹 Milagros o misterios: Análisis de sucesos que han sido interpretados como milagros o señales de lo desconocido.🔹 Rituales y procesiones: Una mirada a los rituales tradicionales y sus conexiones con lo paranormal.Acompáñanos mientras desentrañamos el lado oculto de una de las tradiciones religiosas más emblemáticas del mundo. ¿Es la fe el escudo o la puerta hacia lo inexplicable? ¡Descúbrelo ahora!🔔 Suscríbete y activa la campanita para no perderte más historias que desafían la realidad en Extra Anormal Podcast y de igual forma no olvides pasar al canal de mi invitado y amigo Nazaret el cual lo encuentras como: ‪@PodcastMasAlladelMiedo‬

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the images are receptors of any entity. 100%. Because the people think, no, it's that's a Christ, is that's a virgin, is that's a saint. It's something good.

No, can't get nothing bad of them. And they're so much if my abuela had a crucifix, in the man. And me said,

no, you know, that's, he goes, that's that that's that he's talking, it's going to

are looking but no they're going to get to the

domino of resurrection no you have the door and the person

that the experience the and the particular because

by the images religious catholic they they ran

the life to his own that the saint

not can make but that is the problem of

many people think that the image Even not that the Deidate or the santo, no, the image, this image that I'm trying here,

that's ignorance, really. What? What? What My My This What

Welcome to a podcast Anormal My name is Pacuarias

and I'm very happy with with all this occasion family I'm

I'm a good here to the studios of Tuxtepec. And, of really, me complice presentarles to the good Nazareth, known as Jesus of Nazareth. How is your man?

Very good, my name. Muchis for the invitation. Very content of being here. Thanks, I know that much people,

you have seen in various episodes with us, with more colleagues, but for the people that's for first time, I'd like you

presentes, what are your projects, radio social? For there can find as far than the MEDO.

Podcast in all the platforms. there we count also stories. We have some interviews that are involved in themes

of mystery, paranormal and all these these things that we're going to be the time that this night

I'll say something, but is my favorite. Or of my favorites. The stories of Semana

Santa. And is that, well, as the people know, we're we're talking

in Tuxtepeg, Oaxaca, and in this municipality and in there are many

uh, uh, uh, every uh, every a year, we've been

different stories, the year the year past or antepasado, pardon, we told us that much people,

uh, because he what's what's in, well, in these days, that are a little

about a but, before this, for favor. I'd mention to the people

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many people see the episodes but subscribe. But, well, yeah, after those

annuces, Semana Santa. A see, I think we're in a couple of many people, and probably

you, that in those days, in some places in Mexico, especially in the people,

it's a air that's strange. Like the people are a little

in their houses, like It's a respirate and it's a very different to a day common.

I don't know if you're completely of a quote specifically Paco we're talking about this

time with some of our followers there in our platforms where we mentioned about what was what

was going to some time because some of them said you think you think it's possible

that they can realize burghry in days of a day's sometimes

you say you know many of those bruchos are reserved in what is

to realize in those days or in those days or in those feches for respect the grand majority,

but some others not. They're in that atmosphere. And to what we're referring what we're what is what

is what is the place where they're in a lot, in a place where it's not

a bit more a bit more bad, it's it's china the end china the no I

didn't, that's like that's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like

So is. And, well, it's like the history and it's, and biblically is written, well, is, it's

like what sucese, in the time where they capture a Jesus, a Jesus, his God, the flagellan,

he, and, and, well, particularly, mourn, no, in the Calvary, in the

cross of the Calvary, to then, to then, I'm going, the history, is the Via-Cruus, catholic,

and many things, but the environment accompanied of certain traditions that some people do you

want to tell something. In my family, normally they're in Mexico, there are

vacations in those days. For so here, here's like vacations of Semana Santa.

And my my abuela always me said, are vacations of

the Semana Santa. It's for my my mother, that was her

to keep. For that you guardes in your house, for you to put

to you can't to get a count with you and you

know, you know and you don't know and you can't have a way at a

little no to do to enjoy to do that to do that that's

so. And is I've I've a incident that much know because

one of that's here in one of this you know you know does

make so so so so Semana Santa Calor

there many many to do notar. This story I told I said two years

but very a lot of people know it. Rapidito because not of the stories that

we tryem because this me happened to me. We get to a rio

for this we're going to this he says that the the rios that are many

are known are that's many of much people but there there's

a house where nobody nobody go and then we

and then we didn't because nobody And when we got us, we'd like some of those balls negras in the river

so very turbias, no? And me said, my mom, he's, he's, because there's where it's

where they're really on. So, so, I'm not to do you playing, I was,

I was, I was, I was, playing the ball in the water, me abiented in a

palatzo and he's got, and I'm to be the on the on where I'm and I'm focused on

the, the, the pelota when my my feet when my I don't talk with nothing, and I feel that I'm, I'm going to undy.

So, there I'm a force togeo, because this was I told in a chapter, precisely, of experiences near as to the death, because, at least, I was killed for seconds, because I did have to have, or to

feel this necessity of respirate. Yeah, no, my ser, yeah, not, yeah, was, I, yeah, no, it was, I, yeah, I didn't need to, the desperation,

so, yeah, I, so, I found peace until that I can't. The curious is that I'm

talking with the people of the other is that says that every time

Santa in the same place where I have been people

people and has nogated and in the people was a legend

of that there there a year that every that in those

days it and so so I'm what I think

my my My, the thing logical is there are many ramolinos

there. I eventually for si intentable to flotar but I feltia that I'm

really, I'm hallable of the feet or of the feet, or a way,

a force, and me and I had to the front of the river. So,

so that they're unfortunately but much people of the people says that

we're that we don't know we're not we not we not we met

in these it's very dangerous much people guard like this

lute, like this respect to these days? You what do you do you? No, completely.

Of the really, it's what is what we're not in our people who are very

religiousos that in those days is that there are many many accidents, many

many fallacements and is precisely for that reason or is what is what

are the people that are people, the actually came to the question

of the accidentes in carreter also where me I asked

no, you know, you know, is Nazareth, you know, you're paramedico,

what you're about, you know, there's there's many people for,

for sinister, for what are the chockes, people atropel and all this type

of things. I said, look, look, for a part, for a person,

you can say that is for much affluence, but at sometimes you sometimes you

find you with a accident, that no has that you don't do you

do you doas. And precisely we that, like, to that

conclusion, we're not going, they're getting in their house. I feel an energy

extrana. And, and maybe also I'm a question of, of attraction, if this

what we call us, this, energies collectivas, where the people, all start

in this, in this class of lute, in this class of energies, it's

called the desgrace. Exactly. It's the desgracy. Exactly. And sonarado, I

don't I don't I'm very exagerado no, what what occurred in Semana Santa

but I want to start with these stories that really me have really me have

been there's there two years probably they're in this episode

until the final because there many in each in every public in every

city in every state they can't things different

or they're traditions different. In this occasion, you want to mention what happens with the family Mendoza

that lives in a municipal very little of the state of Guerrero. When comes to

Semana Santa, the people of the people and just like we were talking,

they're going to the Bacruci, they're to the Rosaries, and they're at a Misa

the Domingo of Resurrection and they go to a practice very common and only

they're for that in this time this family had a practice a little

different to the rest they were they were with some mantas the rostros of the

images that were in their vases Virgenes of Guadalupe any santo

that was in house they'd they'd they're they're they're

they're a lot of what they do they do they tap those spejos well here

in Semana Santa tapable the rosters of the santos or

any image religious that's in that for this they're

in this house an image like of 50 centimeters that

was put in the comedor of a virgin of Guadalupe that normally the rostro

of these images are of love of of serenity and the father of family

starts to tap the rostros with sabanas or with mantas black something

something they're so they're they're they're to taparles and you can't

every in their respective Camas, pass the hours and being approximately

like the 12, 12 and a night, not so demadugated, so they start to

hear some in the house. The father of family is out of the room where

was her little Isis of eight years and when they get a his wife he's a

encounter with a jant so a lot so that little that that's a

that he's quite could explain his his father he said my my

love his what he's what the little she

that not he could not even because was this

this form to where I was but this

sentiment was so so and uniquely sign about

that where was only he only and the place

where there was that the virgin of Guadalupe the the pap

he's a mom also cargan to the little that

is his and the little and the she is she is she is

she's she don't say you don't say you don't you

don't say you don't the brothers say you are the

brothers may are they are and when incendi a bell in the

commender, because no they're not the light electric, they'd get in a little.

The the rostro of this virgin that was there was he was not the

manta not in the but the but the rostro was different this this mirada

of serenidad of love of peace so had been

made. Of actually, it was like some circles like,

like markers reds around of the eyes of this image

and this image not was looking around like always was

looking in direction to the abitation to this in that

what we describe in that is that is that starts

to feel like a feeling a a sensation

rara but very extrana, and the brothers start to have been to have been a air

free to this part of the house that apag the bell, and they're going to be able to bring,

while the papa only and it starts, not in Rosario, but to recital a recital a oration

that is known as the magnifica and in that the little, she'd year year and

there's a moment where the she was to start to distortioner like his voice to turn

a little different, very a different, a henna to a little bit of his parents,

of his brothers, and they start only to repeat this oration one and other

and a past that they were in this part of the house where was completely

obscure they're how the rostro of her is a disfigurar like

that changed a form like his semblante was like of a man, like a

person not of a little and this and this starts to turn

more more more more dark and and they're

in the little she when the after after after after

to cry and they're they're recitando this oration, with much

faith, and they've been how the little bit disbandece, and behind they're in their image,

they're describing, they're being completely with the light that was from the light, but even as

with too a little light, they were so too that was that was that was

and simply simply Voltean to see the Rostro of this virgin and was like normally I'm not

with these rascoes and with this mirabing and with the rostro looking where

was the room of the little simply was so normal when the little

when the question a what was what was what was the she was the

she was what he's one of his brothers Samuel us in this

Correo At the day next my father my mother

that what was what she and she she went to

every night he went to and he started the Father

Nuestro and the Father he when he he started

he sentio a fear very and he saw how

something was as it was all dark she didn't know she

was a he he's like that he's moving to the direction to

the image of this and was when she she started

because she saw down being the and the eyes

with that a poca light how that image came

and she moved and was when he started

disconsolated and desperto to his papas. This person that we share the person who is a

brother of she says yeah passed many many years of this and every

every time that I know the people not me believe but I he said

I I pass to this in this time me I still

guard and I'm taping the images of my house with

tels blanks Like I did my mom and my Papa. Oh, yeah. Bastantly Fulte.

You what do you think you could have succeeded there? Well, some entity quix the embers.

You, you, you, you, think, you know, we mentioned many

many times. As you know, I'm a person that is a follower of what

is the Santa, the Santa, the Santa yeah, and many many times we've

talked of what is the consagar your images. If not

consagras those images, the images are receptors of any entity. 100%.

Because the people believe, no, is that is a Christ, it's a virgin, is that's a

saint. It's something good. No, can't get anything to do you, and they're

so they're so they're incomendated. Asia, as a entity, to that that's a

saint, that Christ, any any entity could take it, any entity opportunistic,

that's the word, can't take it like in base to take that

energy that you give to those resos, those bells, all what

you do you're so it's energy, no? It's sense

so. It's there is there's that I'm sure that many people

let be sombrar normally when are desmantel or are are taken to the

light certain certain um places where they're there

are such or not see there images religious like San Juan

Jude Stadeo the Virgin of Guadalupe the children and people and much people say

how it's possible the fact they're not yeah yeah so

yeah the people say no it's but it is certain there

there there images religious catholic that are in

places satanical but oh no is I want

I want that that that just that is that occupant, well,

to the virgin or a little God, no. Normally, these images are

extraidated of churches, of parroquias. Those are those are the ideals. Because are

images that can give what you like? 50, 40, 100, 100, 100,

10 years. Imagine the quantity to a, a, that's a person,

how people he reso in those years? They did supplicas, vellas. So,

what energy recabed in tantissimous years? Completely. And that image they're

not to use the image, but to use the energy and canalisal. Canalisle, transmutal and

to bring the energy oscura. That's for potensia. So, there's a person that

says, bendigian their images. Constantly with the water mendita.

Why? Because you know you know what could of that

image, that was what was what was the with this image of the

thing. And to start this question. Many times we've asked,

for the least in my channel us have said, and how consagraphed a

image a kind of a image of a end of that's

a good that's a form of consagration for a sacerdote but

there you can so so much you're so you know you

you're San Judas, because there people that there are persons that they're

and they're and they're they're or they're in a repis or they're they're getting to get a

person who see what I'm saying I'm a more more even okay and here

I'm you know I'm going to tell a story but I think it's propitious

for this that we're about this we're going from a area of Michigan that's

in San Juan New if no no mal record this history we don't

we've shared last some years. And the person that the experience, it's with much bit of a lot. Because by the images religious

Catholic, let's herringed the life to his own own parents. Okay. This person mentioned that when was a little, unfortunately, as many of the people

of our Mexico, it's inevitable to see that there are people very poor. Persons that are in the streets, bidding money, or that they're with many people cargando,

this, that they have been and they're getting and things that are really

quite lamentable. In this case, they're in these these, in these

people, because not only a area, and they're very people, people,

very, um, acacos to these people, so they're people, so are people

are reales of rash pure peche. They're when when they're in, in a certain plaza of these

poplittos, his mom was put to pay money. Okay. Bastant littleitos. He said that they'd in those

times, seven three, seven men's approximately. Wow. And, and almost they were doing, then

limosnes. The mom, lamentably had some attitudes that were not negative because the

husband had left. The sir began to take a a lot of things and practically

it's approachable of the children. They're not they're with what is the

abelos, some of the tios, because the she was totally isolated to the children

and a deplorables in the few words. Cirt a moment this man he's going

in a market and he hala the vestige to a womaner and says sheora

no me a money a moneyita for favor and the sign

no, Kittate. Kittate from here. The woman the woman and result

to be the mother. Okay. So when it's when the woman and then

when it's a year, no, what is possible that is so all socio all-o-

urinado oh, oh, no, he has recognized. He said, no,

me- he said, no, me-go, no you don't you go, the signora

went to one of his kids. We said, we have this man,

we can get us to the other but to this we're going to we're going to get

and the he's he's momah you're going to get in problems let him

let him let him he's he's when she he took to her she took

the decision to talk with some some of some her mother now not is

not even to his cabals but lamentably I'm I don't put

I can't move to keep to the people because legally

not I can. But, but we're to do this man. We have to

protect him. So one of the children of the woman who live in the area in the zone

of the area, oh, I don't recall the area, but it's in Tierra Calient in

Michoacan. In that zone was one of his tios. This was artisan. So this

artisan, you know, you know, you're no, you have done the man, that's

come to me, that live with my kids, and all all the then. So,

they're in the son of the area and when when he gets the little the first that's a

family, are desprecious. Okay. That's the person of the... interested okay that for

nothing they're not compatian eh oh yeah the a senior like super

ruby precious and this me said no my my man

was that was but he was but he was for the question

of the money and and they were and the thing

when he when he he said when he he says the he said me

make the artis ask me I want I want I say

yes my I mean, he's going to get to get to see that the person that in this company,

a little company, they're they're much. And he's, at being this class of

desprecos for part of his family, he says, oh, he'stie, what you do you

see if you let's in the bodega to live? I think that would be much better there and

then, you'd be less with your family. And he said, so my

he's they're molestando or what's what's passing. He said, no. No, no

doesn't know you know that you need to care of the bodega, I you can't be able to do. And the same

people say, and the chief, leave it. We're going to do you want to do you want to do it to come.

We'll let us. And the sir, we're going to do you know, one of one of these

one of the he said abuela, the she was very constant with him. He'd

he'd had to come and he He had a co-cuitous, some mobelecito. And in a certain occasion he got a little rare with the vestimenta

to start. It was a new real of the woman. And he said the lady, and say, I don't care

to get to with this, because this is a case pernid. But, but, then it's,

ah, it's, so, so, this man, he's, he'd like,

I'd like to come here to some places where me to live with some

It's going to to give to groups, a group of people, and when they're going to they're

to say, oh, yes, we're going to some clubs specials, where you're to know some to get to

get to some newia. We're going to say, ah, without problems, we're going, and she

does get to know that there's many wapas, very bonitas. And, of actually, then it's

there's But you know what interesting of that space that in that space they were a certain cult or

a certain group of adoration. In some places had images of a mafomet,

that's what they know like the devil in some others had an abitations

full of workes of brewery that they were the abitation

of the artesanies so they're and also other where the people

have to find out like a house of a post okay but I'm full of

things paranormal so I'm and say that's interesting I never never had known this

when when it's to get to they're they're they're they're they're

a question of a satanism pesist yeah so we're we're talking we're talking we're

well yeah yeah you know you know you know I'm And it's to do

these amos and in a certain moment he gets to this place and

he does know that this supposed friend was in the room of the artisanies

where did the workes and he is doing that's doing the work

and that putting certain photographs to a lot of a image

of a I think I don't I remember what he I'm

that he's that's that's that's sania. So, so it's

a pass, and he does know that in the work of the

woman, okay. Of the the abuela. And then he was, he wanted that

because he was that he was in the, in the place where he was

in the he, for those moments came to mentioner, I said completely how

he worked the magic, the bourgeria, the 100%. Yeah,

I've passed a good time. So when he does he does a lot of

he does how it's possible that you go to your abel? Your

is an love of a person and he and he you know, to say, to me

I don't me I don't I don't I'm to have a play very

with him he, he's he starts to get the thing a lot

space. When he gets to your house, that was the bodega, he went to his diapolitica and to

his primos, they had an asco the house. They got all the food of the refrigerator,

bolted the camera, they got the carons, the roba in the piece. So,

with the courage that he said, because they're doing this? What are doing?

And the signora, with that attitude, she was a little bit in the house. Of sure you you're metista in our house

and you you took to the box. And says this this is this aniel. You, you're

they're going to say, you are you're a ratero and that they're they're going to get.

And this man, he's does the big of his life of those primos. In

that moment, as he he left much, I didn't to do for those times,

he had passed a good time that no visitable his or that no,

no, I've seen and he decided to go to the house of the when

when he gets to the abuela, the old is what is what is you know, he says

that's that's the woman, you know, you know, my grueling to be

inculpar of something, and the truth, I was I'm very so I'm

for I'm for this I've been. So, so I remember so two years,

approximately in all that's the lapse that's that's Decide to

He said He's both a his father and a his mom okay

when he's going to look the father with desprecrow

you do you do you think that you just you're a

disrece horrible when he's to be a mom he does

know that he got that but also he

he's saying many horrible very very very feas

where What are you? For what you I don't you need I'm imagine to the rinkor

that was from from the work of his supposed friend

in that in that moment all that that recor record

that his work artisanies his his some some

some negros, a pretty, and he says, you know I was living

with my abuela. I said to my abuela, abel consigem these

materials. I'm going to do some some artisanies for you. When

begins to do the Christos has three Christos. Those starts but the

three were prepared one he doesn't for his abuela and he

said abuela, this is to go with all the carino of the world. The other gets to the house of his father, that yeah lived with another woman.

Nowvantly, the Papa, he received in a form horrible and he says, I don't know what you're what you're not, you never

you've seen like a kid. And he says, it's a good, look, here, I'm here, I'm here,

I'm here, I'm, and that garrar the Christ of the Lord and that he he'll do a side to the

beded. Okay. The her wife, if he said to the man, I'm

my son, but so so that's your father. No, you put the

Christ to the house. And the mother. And the other he's he's a

mother, to his house, that's that you went to the house where he had been,

so, many more men, so. So, when I got to this part to me

had passed to commenter, viola the state deplorable of his of his brothers and

those, and then he said, I have to do you have to do you know to do because the

woman didn't let me the person of the children of the children. Well,

the papa died in a form very lamentable. Uh, very, very lamentable because if

no mal recall the the sir took a accident in in vehicle or something similar

and felles so quite feo, in few words. And the mama,

that also was very very very fallacy. But here what I

think really really impressive is what did with the

artisanies. This this class of artesania had a work

prepared in the part interior. So these artis were

in huca and said, you know that Nazat that

artisanies you're going to regress all what you had to do you have to do you

do you do you know I'm not to do a lot of nobody uh they're

they're they're so they said to the actuality my abuela my abuel

that was a lot my has been about 15 years and I

I'm I'm I'm I'm that the causeante that I have arrived

to a life Because he said, this that you me does in this moment, I'll

I'm going to I'm if you do you do you do a good vibra or felicity

everything all going to do you. So what so said with his father and with

his mother practically what he was to rebuttals but where is the

interesting he used images images religious to make to make the

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Fiatty that what you mentioned, ago, it's so viral in some networks social. That there was an image, no, I don't remember if it was of the Virgin or it was San Judas. San Judas. San Judas. That's. That's that's part, well, because to the middle, and they're in the image of a Christ, but

of the head. Yeah. So, the people say, oh, how is possible that one image has another image inside, but at the reverse, making the cruz inverted or the crucifixion inverted. So it's so very, very viral that video. And is that

we'll go, we'll get the people think that because are images santas, between

comillas, of things santa or persons santa, not can be used for this

type of people who do they do they're to do the mal or or to

do that magic, for the body, and so the satanism that

also, much sometimes is a present. There a story man,

you're taking Semana Santa that's called Via Cruus. This,

uh, no, that's what's a little to your abuelito, to the

sir genero, he's called Genaro. This he occurred in 1997,

for favor, I think that's that year that year, that

year, this occurred in a little in a little people of

in this particular in a little Abuel, Genaro, had 20 years. And in this world,

he was used to do the recorried of Via Cruces in Semana Santa, but a little not not so much

like those that are in the state of Mexico, but if they're a person that simule

a Christ and, but he was coming with a cross, cargling all of

the Bacruis. So in that year, 174, eligen a his abolito Genaro, who in that then was a young, and he was a very happy. He said

he said very honoured interpretar, imagineate, no, to the same-Christ, and to share, well, that moment of the dolor, and say, well, I'm going to share that dolor, and like, it's, like,

it's a lot, of much, of much emotion, you think you're a poter, that recidivor of much indulgences, no, see, many things, positive, and And then he says that he says he's He's going to go to the

Misa, get to comeulgar, confess and then comeulgare, confessart and you know, the people like to start a guarder in the people, they're going to be to be like, to be more dedicated to do orations and not to

go to the street. And he said that he's sent to Don Genaro was a pretty also entusiasmated but at the same time preoccupated

I don't know why a day before he was a this Via Cruces he took a pesadilla

in this pesadilla he had that was like in a cave oscura with

paredes but that this cove like is going being more

and more and more and more and more and he started to

trying to escape to not to move, was aplastado, and like he's done that there's a place where there's a lot, and

he's going to get to gore, but the cave's to be more little. In this pesadilla,

he said that the the the the world that conformed in the cave, they were

to start hands, but manos with hands with long as many longas

like of demonios and that they were they were they were they could they

that impeded that he were to the light and like he's

he's he's he's he's they're they're to get out of the

cave but that he was practically moving between the mountain of the

manos to get to get to he a night before and he

he's he said he's he said well probably probably you're

probably you're stressed or what you was to do? Well, it's

the day where he will be doing this paper of Jesus in the

Via Cruces his family and says calmate will be all about all

and comendate to God and say I'm I put the clothes the

clothes in the tunica black me put in a crown that

I didn't have spina I remember I remember I feel

the of how various spina some encrust across

of my front and me a cross very pesable and I'm to come to

come to come doing this recorried this this recreation of how was this this

this the way he said they were two soldiers other other

other persons that he they were going on the but the form

suavecita so no they were not they're like normally normally

pass in others in others where is this this. And he said that when

you've been this, caminando a good tram. He said, I'mpe to know what he said to

his aboelito Genaro, that the cross that was literally I felt like if they had

had been added many kilos of the so, so like he's to be

to be but so much that I doblable me, me I was

I to do blar, and after that I felt that sensation of that he was going, I noticed the

presence of someone after me. Like that someone had been very pegged of me.

I was in my paper, I don't go to back, but I felt like

someone came a bit bit bit to me. But not was a

sensation or a presence good. It's like that, no

it's He derramed the presence of God because he was in, no, all the contrary. He said that he started, like a vibra very pesada. He started to feel. And that was behind him, very close,

like emanated this energy, and he was made, to feel like a scalofrio, and like something he had recorreed the body and he had a much bit of fear, and not knew what was happening. until after that

after that I'm I can't and I get to I'm quite I'm trying to see

who I'm because I'm curiosity and in that I hear of if I said if

he said the father has abandoned and it's when I don't know and I know

nobody but that those words the father has abandoned I'm I've

my recorried what restable of the Bia Cruces, and I was mal, me said, Don Genaro yeah mentioned

that he costed much to carry the cross, but that he started, like the letigasos

that they were really were notigasos that were that were the back. And there

was a moment where again, where, you know, he's a personcy at the back

the costilla, but like, or the man of this ser, it was so cold that he felt

if he had, if he had put a piece of metal, and it's when he's when he

and the he's, he'll and the cruz, the nucca where he had the

spina, the coronas, the coroner, and he started to have this lack of air and

he started to be burroso but no sawia what he was, and the only

that he remember is like it's like it's like he when he reaction he's

in his house and there the people of the Rosario the Beacruus

and the he was he was in the house and he they said in that

Genaro that he said there is that there is that I know

who I know who I'm I'm and I started and

he said and he said Genarro no there No, there nobody

with you, no there was nobody with you and he said, and he said,

and he said, and he he's got, he's he's, he's, he's, he's,

he's, he's, he's, and the person, that I'm that person that's practically,

Noe, the nieto of Don, Genaro, we said, this, he was to my

old, and it was the story that's that I'm said, I know

on the Santa to me I'm going this and always but when we

we're saying we're saying yeah we're going to the same the same story of the same

of the biacruces and the supposed demonio that he called and that

he left a mark that he never appeared a resulta that

that mark that is he's to be to be in the moment of

your when this when this person that us man the

Correo, he to vestirlo and when it was he's there's

there was Paco where he mentioned that this he had

talked and no there never never existed nothing there

there there a mark of a man but with those

long and it was a mark that he had in

a real as that that had been like

that was the mark like of a quagmada. My

mother me said, my brothers, all we're we're

that that's that I knew you but that's the moment of his

moment of the don't Genar of that that that's that

the same in that he gave a crossies. Oh, Lorditism. What you think

of that? No, it's very very very You think? Yeah, I think you could have been.

No, at the more, some entity, for there he was accompanying for his life and he he didn't even see a count. Pasa,

like, these famous cases where they man are a morto, no, where you can be with you always, always,

and not your and not you know, but so about, no, the curious, for what he did he,

why in Semana Santa? I don't know if it's probably something that in that the world, he occurred

that he interpret a Jesus, I don't know. And, well, it's

also the question of the person. Uh, many we've gotten to

that's kind of where the people say, is that the people,

it's the people, because they're they're they're they're they're

they're not, but the people who possibly have a fee well put a this,

this, the front, those people are those that practically can Tentadas.

That is. That is what is what is what is the thing of people. Sure,

not. So, persons that are people who are those are the sort of

certain way. Well, Paco, I want to want to a thing that's

a time and I think that you know that you know that you have

I've gotten to this class with some people that's a question

of the question of the to the Teseros. Okay. To the Buskade of the Teser's,

that has to be with Semana Santa. It has to be and much. There are many stories, many legends, uh, of persons that

for those feces, that are those flogers that are resplandores, logan be covas

where no there are other, purtas, etc. Between one of those Tantanties

that have to be with Semana Santa gave to me a story after

some years that it's not a story of the desor

of the cofradia okay the cofradia if no mal recall

is in Gomes Farias Jalisco this is a community that

a few years was practically there was a actually a

lot and this place he was the Mr. Cesar, that in the actuality had to have been

about an 80 years approximately, this said that the question of the world, to all the world,

all the world, all of all, so, all mentioned, too, as a little parenthesis, a treasure for you,

for me, can be totally distinct. 100. You can you can say, for me

my tesoros are these photographs. For me, my tesor, are these are these records of

my mother. But for an a a treasure we're talking of much

money or even orro orro precisely remember we what was the form

of the to try to that they don't they're they're they're they're

they're they they're in some there was this ascent to the

cofradia according a story that he's a or what he

he's he said is that in that that in those that they're

that And, lamentably, they're the life in that same ascent. In an arbor,

they're practically. When these people, there's there's that the the people,

the people, the people, the people, the people, they were locus, they were on the

parades, in the pieces. Buscabed the famous desor of the

ascendars. But, but no they encountered nothing. That was impressionant

when you pass to the as a as a and you've boughets for

all the partes. The Sir Cesar in those times was he was a

little and he said he was to go to the school

and he had practically to a and then

in that was he was he was he was he and he

and he and he and he and he and he and he and he was

and that he did he sometimes people with what are pal

pal He says, ah, they're scarvando. A certain day, it was a part of that's out of the school. Then, he's a man recargated in one

of the barreds of the asiena, and he says, hey, he says, a favor. He says, digame, sir,

no me prestes your mula. Necessito to go to get to the little bit. And I say, oh,

my parents me say, my parents, me say, I don't me I don't know if I don't if I'm robo my mula

And he says No my I'm sure I'm not I'm gonna do I'm in the favor I'm in the

I said well well so you go to the mula just just I'm let me

let's say so then they're talking where you from the school ah

that's there is that I've been much time for here that when when they

went and they're they're they're thank for help me and that

just I'm just I've seen a money to air and that was a one of five pesos, I don't recall the denomination, but in those times, much

money. It was a much money. So, he's a quite content. He gets to his house and says that the first thing is, scounder the money, because I knew that they were going to keep.

So when he came, it was inevitable that his men, he said, hey, try you a money. Ah, and it's me to pass to give a little.

A certain moment, when he was about contemplating the money, I'll take to the mula and you know

in what he's he went to go to get to get a okay. Pasa

that's his mom he he'd and say well no, no,

so no no no more when I remember I remember that I said when I was

he was to come to get to get to the space where I'm and said

I'm going to look the man for here but he but no he's

there people people that are scabando into, and no he says, yeah, no no, he says, yeah, any more. He says, he'll

get into the same paris. He says, what on, my what happened? What is here? No, well, I'm going to look at him to look at my mula again. And, he says, no, my boy, or not. No, no, no, I don't know. But if you're

, you can't, please, you're going more tardy for here? If you want, we're just, we're going to, we'll do. O'Rele, then, then the muchachos is practically

for his house of the money that he had cuted his mom he did

some he did a not so much and he he'd be permission to the

mom mom and I let's you to go to play to

and the she said the she let's you just

you never to come to say oh yes what you do you see

if you just we're just no more I'm little

little little little if it was what you've made and saying that's going to say, no,

you have to play, have to postar. Now, let's, apustan, says that all the

parties of mechanic, you're going to get to the man. When it's he got a, he says,

oh, you know, I can't get with this money to my house because my mom

me will to get, or will think that me it or I'm to think that the

Lord and that he says, do what we're us. We're when we we're

we're we're we're we're we're we're going to look at some you know

this I'm go to and there it's a it was a denomination in the money

that's he said that the man said the man and then of the pao

into the pano met those money and he's he's he

he's a bad a mal recall that he he had said So they'll forget. But this

sir he says, Oyes, my boy, you're my friend, he's my

people, we're not. Okay, is that, these feches are very speciales. Necessito

that me does a favor. Ben in the night and I need that I need to

you take your mula. Tritelah and you have to do you only. No

can't come to be any more. You can and Oh, is that me

fear you know I'm going to be a so much he's going to go to the idea and he

says, I'm going or not go, I'm the decision to go. When he he's

to pass to that space was, it was a little light, if at the light

of the light of the moon and he and he's he says oh my my son

that's, oh, what you're that's what you what you're going to is something

with what you have to has to have much value, much value. I'll be to be able to beaccompanied all the time, so you don't have been used. These are the instructions. You have to excavate here.

And then when you're going to scabar this, you're going to get to a, a, a, a, on costal. And in this costal, but you're going to put in the mula, and then you're going to go to the panteon. And in the panteon, all this that we can make us

we're going to let's after you're going to you're going to you and you're going to

open in this space of the marco of where was this you only nobody more

and then he started to have a little with the simple that to leave

a pantheon and he says no no you're going to start

to start and begin to scabar and start and he's

to wasos, all it was a person, right? So when he's got a

guy, he's he's a little he's he's not he's, he's not he said,

no, you're going to be to be going to be to be to be to the night,

and he's that the way, he's a way, he's when he's when he's

he's he said, you know, you're going to let's get those there, then you start

there in the Panteon, it's put in that space and this person he says, no

forgets that you need and scarvard where I did. And after that he

said, it's to disvancer as it's like it was a night. Wow.

That when he said, he did a fear, he did a fear, like never

in the life, so that he left there was going to when it's going,

when he was He was to his house that he said that was a

long and he he said he said he did this sir. When

they were the instructions when the mind he passed when he was his house with a

fever and all the night he was horrible his mom was very worried

because really was he was really he was he was he was

he was what was what was what was in some years

and this he was he And me says, you know, we're going to

when we're adolescents in those times, we were things of adolescents with the muchachas. Adivina

where? In the asient of the cofrabia. No. So, we went to the novi-sittas for there

and that episode, yeah no passed by my mind because yeah, I had

passed much time. And when it's supposed that I was to do the things of nobios

there in asiena, I'm I'm, I'm, my tesoro, the moneditas that I had interrado, that me gave to

that the sir, that very certainly was a phantasm, there are you, they're just done and they say, oh yeah, you know, that's what?

Some years I had for a kid a one of a known, with that I did a certain game and enterre some

moned with some moneditas of a bad denomination. Yes. Me, you'll ask to look at

the and he's the So we're going to look at the Arboh, get to the little bit of the space

and he starts and start moneditas of five pesos put in the they were

some or eight monedas of five pesos they were monedas of the famous centenarios

okay centenarios no no I don't recall if the denomination is 50 but

centenarios okay so when observe the moned goldas the

And the young he says, the where's that's that's much, much,

much, the ball. Yeah. No, I've been in a much time, but

me, but by here he passed. So, then when so it says,

oh, and the instructions of this sir, no bused where he

he said, and he said to his papa. Hey, he's papa, this,

you know, you know, I'm a lager of the senda of the senda of the

car , nothing. No me accompanies. I think for there

I have a little. Oh, yeah, me ho, we go. We'll. Start.

Start. And thence scarv and start some bals of quero and start some little

coffres. When those they're no, we're we're we're

we're we we're we when they they're carbon. only carbon

okay when when they're in the carbone the man he said oh no

no we've got the varice when they when they're made some words

to say some words had been a fortune that the guardian of that if in

some moment he could have presented someone had had done

some instruction for to And the young says, oh, you know,

you know, when I was a boy, the way is that I'm very very very feo, so,

so is that that you you know's, that you call the guardian, me said that came I was

me, and the papa and he didn't, no, he gave the instructions to you.

And no he did. And no did you and it's, and it's very interesting the

history because it's in the question of the deseros that the those deseros

when are practically you have the authorization of the guardian yes, yes,

you can you can get the but when no you can't you can't

exactly you can't but what you can't you can't regularly is carbon

wow fiatty that much people encounter something the gases

toxic that have been emas the Soge, uh, for tantos years and they can

provoke, well, yeah, a intoxication, a murder. But it's something that's impressive.

Many people think that still exist these treasures and they're looking these treasures. It's

impressionant the quantity of people that has been to talk to a story, my,

that occur in Semana Santa is a story short, but it's so it's very viral in

reders because that much people are saying that have heard the same.

He's a person that's a girl in a little people of Chiapas,

a people from all over civilization in in the middle

of the mountains. He says that he's of the

destiny well, well, he he started to create with

his abuelita and his old she was a woman

very stricted and he he And no, he was a woman very stricta and a little overprotectora. But when he got a Semana Santa, he did it the same that I told my first story.

Cubria the rosters of the saints with mantas and he said, you don't go to any one side. Ben, he was to raise. Abolita, no can't be. No, Ben. And all the day of that semester

Santa, they'd passable resando. Well, he's creed of that

form, obviously passed on the years, he went to the adolescence,

the adultess, he went to live directly to the city, and what

he lived was in his adult. He said, I had 22 years and

regularly I used to visit to my abel. Then he had to

that I grew, and there always always to make me a sopita, a cladito of gallina, something.

So, so I mean, to go to my I'm in Semana Santa, precisely in the vacations, I went to

the people. When he went to the little I got with a biggis an friend of the

infancy that had much time that no I'm not I'm a lot, and me

say, oh, what on, what's what's what's what you're what you

what you want to let's see we're we're we're not Cervasas. I just, I go and visit my

abuela, and in the night, pass to your house, no, if you pass to my case, and we're going. Ah, well, yeah, they're doing the plan, no. And he, this, well, he gets to

his abuelita, the visit, she'd get to her. And he said, well, they were going to go to do this,

and I'm met I, to buyer. And my my abelahs to come, to the fourth where I'm

and I said, he said, he's, he, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm I know

Salgas Ah, yeah, boy, I'm going to start another again, I'm

a Semana Santa no you know so you don't know I'm going to not going to

go to go and let's go to the ballita went to the

back and he he said I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I I'm and and in that while

I was in that I was I I heard how, a one out of my

window, that was a certain, how someone going to be coming. But it was I was

like if were a rastranding something, like, like, like, that's, like,

it's something is something and can't, but literally, I heard that's the house of

my room, and how was doing the recorriable the house. And I said, he was

to get to the door. and, and when the door and he

he said to and he's he's he's he said he said certainly

me are doing a drama no he didn't he got

and again the noise he said with grosserias now

now this he's he this he's so tal to be

rapidly I'll open the door and I'm to say that's to be able to start to

be doing to be to be I'm doing to be to come to come to work.

He's kept there with the hand on the perilla of the door

when when of another once and he said now so

and just before to open the door one one he took

the arm and I said I felt like something

something some me elar the blooded back. It was my

abuel. Abuelah, for God, I'd do an infart. If my my abuel had

a crucifix in the hand. And me said, no you know you know,

that's that's that he's going to they're looking, but no they're to get

until the Domingo of resurrection. No you have the door.

Go ahead. I see the rostro of my My mother, it was a rostro, I said,

you know, like when it was a new, no. It was a concern, it was angust and it was

a need, she had to her crucifix saying, oh, I don't say, you know,

says, something, that rostro of that that's that I don't me to open

the door. I'm I'm back and I went to go to her. Something

that's never, that's that's said, that's that's viral

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murder, which is a classic in a grand part of Mexico. They've heard that part of it. Oh, well,

very impressive. What do you, you know, that's your, that's a type of manifestations? Because I don't think that's Jesus

for a lot, obviously. Sure. Fidate that I precisely when I'm talking with the followers

about what mentioned about the principle the vibra the energy the people are in the lotto total

for the most of those who are so that so that energy to where go

exactly to where where there there's there they're in a

space you think when when it you think that when we're to

to talk of an egregor. Exactly. We'll be to an entity that you generate as, like, for example, the

first thing is a man to be in the mind. A devil. A tulpa. A tulpa could be too.

So, so definitely these things, I think can be able to be something. Yeah, we're going to

this episode, Amigo? How do you are you're doing? Very well. And, well, and, well,

so, I want to conclude with a, with a story, that at At the final, I'll give a rematch very special.

Aorta, you'll see why. As a moment, you told about that you would say an anecdote of a person that we can't hear that is precisely of my city. This lady,

this is the United during all her life, but, lamentably, has a short time, the woman, but the same time, but what is what

what are what do you do those stories, those anecdotes, that are incredible. And always they're going to the nets, to the kids.

Always. Always. In this case, it's a story, I want to give to give a

question. In our city, we have a child, we have a man, me it was confunded

with the santae of the santaia. But no. We're talking of a

santo Catholic, of a man, he was practically martyized in the

time of the Revolution Christa. Okay. This this, if no, I remember

on the time, it was in February of the year of the year of

the first was obligated to come for certain

streets of Chahue Michoacan and and then they were in this

power but they mutilated the plantas of the feet okay

I don't remember what they did in the feet in the

he did they did a piece and they did they were

all the people so times, they'd a conflict in what

was the church, with the government, that I mean me was a conflict that

was a very much that's another situation. And the people are in arms. Sure.

Defendient their faith. And in this case he's to this muchach

that he got to the actual panteon municipal caminand from the center.

With the the feet. With the with the so, oh, this man that

grittar that the government, live the government that die of Christ

or or something. So this muchachio was in a whole moment with a faith

being put and he never to say that words. This is important to mention

it because has to be with a history. When he gets to the area

to the area where they are the ultimate to this macho in the

actuality is santo of Saguayo Michoacan wow this this this

recurried there are many stories people people people that

heard those people people people who they were they were how

they were they were they they're the person is the person is the

person that you mentioned a moment says that in those

time she was a a idea of what was what was in that conflict armado, but

he'd practically to the certainies of where the man when they'd when the feet of the

form, he said that they were in some gritts really horrible. When was all that all

the people, all the person were in the world. And when they were they were they were

to look for the windows or observe that was what were what were the people

that those classes of recorrisos. She observed the little. Be it how they were.

I mean, he'd how he'd and then that's soplicar to his papas. Papa,

mom, help you know, look at how he's going, how we're saying, is that they're going to do the same

remodiment and not the only person. There's many people. not passed for that. Passed some years. Passed in

some years. And it's that there is a something always in day santos,

she never she not the question of the passion, not uh, the

famous marches of the silence absolutely absolutely nothing. The processions. Exactly.

Why you think that you He recorded. Yeah, sure. The record. They record. They record about how

they'd get to this man, the gritts, the suffering. And she said that odia was

the day santo because recordable the recorrived of Jose Sanchez of the

Riu. Passed some years more and he says that he gets a certain a certain

that's a cancer. When he gets that he said, well, he said,

well, he said, well, he lived a good life, although it was

still very young and I'm I fianzo of my santo see if

me can sanar if no no my way living I don't have any

problem when I was in those times were a little not

not like in the actuality a little more precarious said

that it was horrible horrible because were the first chemiropias

passed for processes very complicated and difficult and difficult and and she didn't obtain a response

divina of nothing I imagine they're at the days santa the days

santa and say then they're these sensations to observe the passion of the

past the movies that's that's common and he said

he said I'm practically when when he was she has

to have a dream so vivid so clear that she says that I still

felt the same the same the same that but when they're when they're

in that she's she's the adult that she not the not the she

and when he comes and when they're they're he's he's saying

he's saying he's saying he saying he he begins to observe all the recorriot

as well he has seen when he has when I've seen to see see that

now they are the children and that she was the adult when see that

situation and he want to observe to the window he says that

he's not they not were the soldiers umpugating the that the

man that was in the door of the house so when the

when the he he starts she when he when I see no

no authority by the door and he says sheena, me

to pass to your house, I need a little bit a little so I'm a bit of

so that when she passed, she was she was she was she was she was

she had yeah idea of she and he he's you are

you're you're not I'm not I'm I'm I'm how

they you see he's he's he he he's he's

he's all red so is here. This is a a dream, right? And you say, you know, no is a dream. No is a

dream. You not have you the culp of nothing. No, you feel as culpable. You were you wanted, but you're not you're a little. And for your

help, for your help, now I'll be to God for you. No, you don't you preoccupies. Wow. So, then is that the water, that the little bit of that

water, and the same can't he starts to get a little the rojo of his feet, and he says, you know, margara,

yeah me have to go. Much thanks for the help you. No, you're sure. So,

then the little is that the little to come for the ventana and will be the same scene, the federales

empuchando the And he was still with his recorried. And in that moment he

gets a when when it when it he's he's he went to a impet

with a with a with a sensation a rarer that says,

you I had I had to live I I'm I'm sent with

a different he he came me he was

he but we're talking of other class of a miracle you know why when they're going to get to

get her revisions studies the cancer disappeared wow disappeared for complete

she she said for those times where she passed for these the

little the new he never had been considered beato still so even

still still even they passed for the mind that would

be to be a Santo. Obviously, some people know that he was going to get in some moment, but

no, neither was in those times. So, what are the nets say,

you know, what's that's a mother affirma that Jose Sanchez of the

Rio was who was who was the cancer when he was exactly in that's

a dream. Wow. It was a I was a very vivid, and it was a situation, well, it was a bit of an interesting. That incredible history, and is that I want to remarker that, oh, oh, this no I do you.

It's, I do say many sacerdes catholicos. No, I don't you knowches with me, but that the santo not can't do miracles. It's intermediary. It's intermediary, even in the sunno, he said,

I'm going to ask to God for you but that's the problem of many people

think that the image even not that the that the god or the image this image

that I'm that is that is ignorance really pardoning me but enogens with the

sacerotas because they they're so is ignorance the saint no does the santa

does and so you are sure that the santa you are so you

I was. Completely. Because no was the Santa. It was the there was the way

to do you know. What kind of to terminate this podcast, I mean, how you know you're going to talk about

because I go to remat with a more. Adelante, let me. When I was in a

tap of preparation sacerdotal basic, I stood precisely in much contact with what were the reliques of

Jose Sanchez of the Rio. Okay. With this Santa.

If you're going to do a way to go to Zawayo Ah, no you think

you're we're we're we're having that we're contact with what was

his reliquies we went to events when was ratified was

a super fiest when when was so no no

no no no not say it result that

that in certain moment we we we we

had the obispo so did the movement of

the reliquions So, so they took part of those whecitos, they're repartied

for the world, they were part of those and they were part of the world, and all of

those are considered reliques. Reliquies. As we were we were some we've got some

privileges. And between those I'm here. Okay. And I have here a little

reliquia that is of St. The Riu precisely when still was a

Beato. Okay. Here this is of a little preenda. No, no, I don't remember that I've been said, but it's a reliquia

precisely that he pertaince to him. If you're well, I'm in the actuality I'm not not I'm very

a question of the question of the question of reasons. For that I think it would be a good good

for you, a man, so much thanks. You're they're not they're not the luches.

In this occasion, to give us something to and if you figas in this oration the reliquia

is of when was a beato I don't but in the actuality yeah is a santo okay

so this this is this is a one of those prendas here is and you that I

take a man with much carino from I was practically is something that is

something that is a very and this this time I don't I'm don't you

don't I'm I'm something I'm thank you My brother, look

what beautiful detail here for that you can be in the entire.

I hope it's very much thanks. Thanks. The came

just like mentioned with collaboration. Muchis thanks for this detail,

my way to finish this episode. How you're past?

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