EXTRA ANORMAL - Hizo un Pacto con las ÁNIMAS del PURGATORIO y No lo Cumplió

Episode Date: September 20, 2024

En este escalofriante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, nos adentramos en el mundo de las ánimas del purgatorio y los pactos que las personas hacen con ellas. Nuestro invitado especial, Sergio Díaz, nos relata una historia impactante sobre un pacto que no fue cumplido y las terribles consecuencias que siguieron. ¿Qué ocurre cuando uno no cumple un acuerdo con estas almas atrapadas entre dos mundos? Descúbrelo en este relato lleno de misterio y fenómenos inexplicables. 🔔 No olvides suscribirte para no perderte este increíble episodio! Hizo un Pacto con las ÁNIMAS del PURGATORIO y No lo Cumplió

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You know, what's the woman of you, Christina, and me said a little bit, a batho with a water and,

well, I did, because I did very tired, and I did the box of the water. And what you

said, I just just asked for you, he said, and what happened? Well, he did the

water, but he did the water, and so, they're, they're both to be the center

of the sala and the vase was made it's supposed to it's it's like

because the abelita not the don't so the mother he said oh my

jita thank for attending her christina is a

friend she was a six years but but you

but but but but but the but the little he

said a part of what moment you started

to live this was when naced my my brother.

The abuela he did some questions very because

he said to say you got to you do? You

don't I got nothing no I did not

I said and is where Orelio he says yes only

that when my mom started to and my father me

made to the other people to the night

I had I had you have you I'll repeat it. What oration is

that the animas of the purgatory me protect to get with well and always I'll ask for you.

And this this sir, when they're and it's he says, no me do not, no me they're not.

And then they they're they're asking, what? So, how? we don't do we do not. What is, no, what

is that when you're when you're there were many, were too, and all we saw how

in front of our eyes they were more. Ah, the bestia. And so they were

all right and they said, yes, the people, the gropuched deformed,

deformed, were you were incapuchated, What I'm going to be able to be able to be able to be able to be. And I'm very happy to to start now in

an episode more for all of you this occasion family, me a company, a person that apart to

be a good friend of this team of this great project that is podcast extra normal. My

friend, Sergio, how how much? Thank you. Very good. Much thanks for the invitation after the

time. And I see that many things, but yeah. He's got. We're we're doing.

Thank you. Thank you. No, thanks to you. The truth is that

this night we're in a time interesting. I'm agree to say that

Mexico and part of Latin America have many experiences about of the

animas of the purgatorio. Well, I think we're going to give a context

to the people about the person about has been frescated more to

a type of a type of creencia like every story has

his his or his cult, of where it's originate. In this case, we're

a creencia for part of the Catholicism about the about the purgatorio. That is a place where

it's a or more well, the people not that is a place, that's a

place where if you not were that you not a person, not you go as

as a a cell or a infierno, if you go to a place where

your Alma is purifying to to be going to enter

to the reyno to the world. Until there it sounds very

interesting but in what moment so a line of this theme

to the reality when the people start to have

manifestations for part of spirits human when when

they are people that even or there are places where have passed

tragedies. In fact, here in our land, you don't me do you,

there's there there have been a lot of accidents. And it

would be that these spirits in some form are in certain zones

and not can transcend to the light. So, they're in

a space of time and people who have some kind of

don, ability They can see those, can perceive those, they can't even communication. Sentil those too. Sentil those,

even, orllars. There are people that, rapidissimo, me said, you know, you've had

a person, of actually me passed in Ciudan Mexico, I feel that you bring or that someone that

not me know, a person that says, the aroma, that no is mal, for nothing is a

canela. Okay. A person for what I say, I can't interpreter, is a

person a major. A person of the third-ed- I think is a woman,

but wwele a canela. I'm I'm I'm sorry because the

house of my abelita she always here in Mexico so he

he always in his stuphita had in the cupita with water

canela and canela and then and she preendia a way is that was that is that

the way is to start to serve and it was made and so so I mean

coincidcia maybe not but there are there many things many mysteries

that involve in see the theme of the things the

that we make that exists something something very perturator

after the life or after the life. I'm going to start in this thing,

I'd like that you present with the audience. Who are to do you do you

a bit of a refresh and and red social. Well, well, so I'm

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then they can find me, they can't find. For the people, for the people,

you know, that's the second once that Sergio is with us to be in the first studio, you know?

Where was your house, no? Where was my house? Yeah, where was a lot of

those plierras my clas on one a lot. But, really, what I'm so much

to have that that time. That was, that time, that was, you know me I remember,

but, but, but, but, but, well, I'm, I'm going,

we can't start, with this night of stories, this night of relato.

There's there. There's a person, I'm going to give a spoiler a little

of what I try you. The majority are people who have an experience in your

or in their age young, adolescents, or adults, young. And

today, that are people large, Tomarone the decision to

share your experience enviednons a extraanormal podcast atro

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people that from the anonymat decide and tell

and revelar that that that so he tormented

after many years I you to tell the

experience of Aurelio. Aureli us do a context

in his newness. He me he said this occurred

when he had he he's the major of

four brothers. He he lived in a country

a many years and and and we know

there people the people the people sometimes sometimes

were in this case the father of Aure

was a one of days. He was very very very

with Aurelio. He me describe to his father as a

person of a character a person obviously, obviously, obviously for whatever situation.

So, more than to have a respect, it was a fear to his

father. Miod. Because his father, whatever other something,

you know, he's violence. So, in one occasion, me he said,

that the things started to put in the day that the day that his mom

started to have to be parted. I was to do a lot to his

fourth child, well, in this case, a little, and

his father, when he's when he was he was there was a

manned to the little O'Relio to 11 years to a other

people in the middle of the night to to bring to

the parterer. The little little is a valor. Recordem

that this was a many years for my calculations I do you I'll calculate

approximately about about about about about and with a

little a and a palo and a parterer. A part of the

that's his mother, his little, the life of Aurelii

changed drastically he he started to know what we

know we're we know and he had moments where

he had attacks of panic but but but

unfortunately for how is his father had to

reprimed much in a occasion was so the attack

that he took this little that that's a little a little a little

a recent and obviously his papa molest, he was he got into his room and said

you, why shing you're you're you're you're you're you?

You know that you did a what we did what we all he exercised

violence against him he he's he went Yorando, regress to

his room, the father of this child, and he said to his wife, and you,

doorma to doorma because you know to go to go to work, and I need to

work. O'Reliu he's kept in his room, because a part of

that moment, his life would be more difficult. His father, as they

did count, he was to be to the family, was he was

to the cultivos. And, like his father, he had to get to start at 5

the morning to help to help to the father to and get back to the camp

Aurelii to the mandados, he had the men, then. So,

a part of the moment he became more more because he

he didn't do he's that he was that he was he

reprimed much, much what he sentia for the fear that

he had to his he He was, but he described in the Correa, man, that came something that he

know me can't explain. But the deductions, terroras nocturns, attacks, paralysis of the suing, manifestations.

The most the most that he gave to tell to is that he gave many silhouettes humanas,

but around of his camera. These silhouettes were there, and they were using a pressure and

an oppression and an opression in his beech, what even he had that

it cost to much a lot to be a lot of so his life was very

difficult. Imagineate. Pockes times I'm more than three hours in the

night and the day after a time to be a person that a person that

a person that was a time, he was very very disgastable,

ohgeras, something very strange. The worst is that he could

external to nobody. If he fear. His mom, his mom

said, said to your father, Aurelio was a man who was a

man who was a woman Lucia, who were a year than a year

than in confidence his her man of 10 years he said why

you're in the nights? Aurelio let's say that's a verguyen

says how you have heard to cry. And she'll say, yeah, all the time, you hear of yoreal. Well.

Well, I mean, he does fear because he says, oh, so, my papa, too. And she says, no, no, no, no. No, I know I think that you listen. So, I'll just do you. Your quarter is very close of the

my. It's because the monsters you're still too. In that moment, when O'Rele heard the words of her her man.

Entendio that he not was the only that he had these things. In when I know

that's he knew this, it was like when when he got a little

he's he's he encounter this consoling in his and he

put to and he says all the time me torment all the time

I'm I'm so I don't don't know I'm he he said

to tell to do his woman and he he

Yes, I have seen but to me make nothing. I see because in

his quarters there are there. Some courtinas blanks that are translucid

if there there's a moment in the night is where it's where it is where

I'm going to be to be to be to be to be how they are

going to these things but I'm they're they're they're

they're they're to enter to your court. And then he said he said he said

what was what was what was passing. He obviously sent you a little of, no

see, he was more more he was that not that he was thinking

because his he said your things, it's your imagination, he's your

imagination, he's a little that's what he said to his father. So,

passed the days and the situation continued but Aureliu yeah was a little

more more than his mother was even there even there moments

where there was that he was in his room because I was because

he was I mean the company of her and the two did

in one occasion he went his her visit because he went

to visit to the new integrante of the new integrante better

Dichita Chiquita Giego the abuelita and for surprise of the

abuela the night that's one of the attacks more of the where no put

to be repriming his sentiment stoyed in yanto and the papa

in a little he got to get to his habitation and you

you're you and in that moment bendita are the abuel

say hey kittate from here let me the man in peace

no well is that I'm just to get to all the

time he all he insults despictive cut cut

to get the she was and get to your

and get to the I'm not you don't you try

in the moment the ballita Hilo, he found the peace immense at this woman,

the braza, yore, she consulah. But the abuela he gets looking and he says,

a part of what moment you started to live this? Aurelio he said, it was

when was when was made some questions very raras because he was

to say You gotrassed something? Pedist something? No? No. I don't

I did nothing. You're sure? And is where O'Reilly says,

yes. Only that when my mom started to have to

and my father me made to the other people at

the night I I had I and you

have you and I what I what oration is the oration

that the animas of the purgatory me protect to get with and I

always I'll I'm for you the mother she's

he said he said he's more clear that the water you

you have you got to you have been for

you know no he's you have you have you know it's so

simple as simply to ask and not do do aurelio oh

is a man he's a person that person that me and he

he says until the day of paco pido and I go rosarios

for the animas for the purgatory this me and my nieges

wow I'm going to my mind, what you think you think that living in

a country, like you think we're in the things, that's so,

we can't make the existence of these things and more when we're these

stories, no? And I think if you you've found you can find many

you're to find to happen to you and that have passed to me because

there have moments, also in that you get to a place and you get to the free.

The scalofrio and not it's really, no, and those who are of this city know that

they're not, so never, so they're things so you really pass,

then you can't you can't you can't you can't because there things

that really happen, that really we've seen in these in these stories,

no, then we we're we're not we're not we can negate those

things. There stories. And, And I can't I say to I've lived when you're

when you're talking about. Exactly. And that's in what has created all his life.

And that is the experience that's that's for ever in this life.

And then after this he said, he did for the animas and now it's never

to have these attacks. Well, if he works, it's real for him. Exactly.

It's real for him exactly. Well, I think that I think I'm a story

about about the about the about the histories of the abuas are the abuelas

and Mexico have a lot of other country, but in Mexico, the abelas have a

part very important in our lives, our creanza, our culture, not? So this is

the story of Yuli. Juli us made his story and, well, we're just

seven years and Yulie was with much frequency to see to see to his abelos.

Precisely to his daughter, Don Ricardo and his abuela

Victoria. And you know, and you know, the typical pair of Abelos, Don Ricardo all the time was componing the ventilator,

that the grabator, that the television, all the time all the time all the time today, the talach, no?

And, and Donia Victoria, well, the senior that said, that was, the,

to prepare them food, I, tried to, to start present for them, so,

then, so, they're, the mom the mom of your mom Julie, she called

Nancy. So, they went, even to be to the abelos and when

when they were to be to the abelos, then you know, you know, you know, and then that day

they're doing, one of the many of the days that they were, they got to get to be to be to

the abelos, the abelos, the abelis, well, let me, to come, let me, so you know,

so you know, so you know, the food, is, is more part of our stories. So,

they're, they're in the co-cina, put in the poe to get in the stove and

the way of the bula's know that they're a product for what he is going to do you know?

So, you know, Nancy, get me in your coce to to buy things for what I'm

to go to and say Yulie, I get to care the that's not so much me get to

my abelor says, no Yulie, well, yes, 17 years.

Casually the bula in this house I don't see if all the

abelas, but this abelah in their house in the cell had a altar. So, there had a virgin,

had a house, there was a very common that the family would be and then you

to prays, you know, you could be to give to you in that moment for your life or

a little a petition that you have a or as as a recoratorio as,

and so the olda had this altar and when when she they were to come

to you you can't with the abel. The abel was at the

house not he was not the that the mother and when the

little he says, you know, you know, I'm a little some refactions,

I'm having a refactions, he's repair on those minutes and he

does the indication like you do you do you do you don't, no,

no, no, no, no, no, you know, and not he's

sonrio and she she went. She's she Well, the abuel was like

so, all the time. There's a brahmas like like, like,

so, so the father, and when she regress, to the house,

she kept, uh, when he's the timbre of the house,

no, and he and be, then the patio, be that was, then, then,

my abel is just, oh, my abel he's, he, recor the patio, he, he goes,

and when was an ancianita, so this Asianita he says, hello, is my

my friend Victoria, he's a woman, and he said Julie, he's not he's

to go to get to go to come to a moment and he said, oh,

I want to say, no, me, you know, I'm a and you

and you say, because the be a light, she be that I

see that she be that's so I'm a little and then Julie he says, Julie,

the pass, she'll let me put the patio, the sit in And he says,

I'm going to bring a glass of water. He's to the kitchen, serve a

water with a bit of a bit of the and the lady and the woman in this

moment be the altar. And he said, oh, your old

always asking for all. She always has been very

spiritual. And he said Julie, yeah, my mother always has

us have that. Well, me I have to go, he said the

woman. So, Julie, what is that is that is that she

go to the salida and in the salida the lady of the she said

much thank you and you're and he said that's he never he's not even

he's not the car and he says he says and then you're going to get to get to

get to know what the she had said the she never never never said

that the she never just on the only in the only only just you usually

so you see just just he up the when Julie,

regress, pass on two, three minutes, he's the abuel. And the little

tone of a little bit of a little. What happened? Any new that? And then Julie,

he says, yes. Vino Christina, a friend of my old at Victoria.

And he gave a water and he gave a little and he's he went. And the

abuel no contested nothing, the which was very rare, he had a very

good with the woman, it's like she not a

little a little distant. extrano, no? When she went to this, then it was

very rare for her. In this it's a instant, it gets a little bit with her

mom, Nancy, and he he said, what's the abuela? Vino a friend

of you Christina and me asked a water and so I did because I was very

very very much gotated and I did the water. And what he said

he said? Nothing, only just he of water, but not he's a but in

that's both to see the and the middle of the cell and the

glass and the that's that was that was that was that was because

the little because the abel not so and then the

and then the oh my jita thank thank thank you thank you

thank you is a my friend me she's a man and I all

all the days I'm I'm and a a box of

water is a little what I'm now now

now she's not a yeah so obviously Julie she

got very so she go the and the abel

with the and the he says to start to your defundits

to your and it's the only that you listen when

the she she he says me does me do I

know that can you can you can That also, we also, we're talking. We're a don. Yeah, well, she took a interaction.

Sure, and it was the nita. No, even the daughter. It was the nita. It was the nita, the, that was, was, like, was she had, like, received the don't? And really, with the, with an, with an, with an

soul, a spirit. Yeah. Fidate that that me has surprised much in tantos that I've been that I've been reading. people have

a don but the don't not come of your mom or his mom or his

father. It's very for abelos. For some reason I mean obviously

not it's in all the cases there are who are directly for their parents.

But the cases that for the most I have been I've been my mom no

has my my papa no has been but my abuel is or my

abuja my mom and my my dad and my my mom and my the people I feel

this percibo or so we're about for a reason the generation of the

parents like no it's but the not the not this connection I'll

to tell an anecdote this this anecdote this anecdote I think I think

that you talk to what you don't do you

like you like you like you there there an abuela in which

form a part of the history. Obviously, are stories anonymous. The names that mention us are changed. This is the

story of Yolanda. Yolanda Creece in a world, precisely, of Oaxaca, a people that we're going to

omitire the name, because is very close where we're we're not, is very close. And, and,

so, is a place where the people believe in many, much, many things. Kren in the

animas of the purgatorio, creen in bruchas, creen in chaneques. And Yolanda, then the

reality, I said, that's things, are the people. That's not exists.

At least for me, it's not function as. This, this, no, no, no,

not, not a time time back. We're a initial of the years 2000. I mean,

they've some more of 20 years, but not we we don't we go to our

ancestors. We're in the initial of the 2000. So she lived in this country with

a house very great and the abuela of Yolanda had a house. She lived in

a house at the out of the people very very near to

where was the panteon municipal. A panteon that had tombs

yeah very of the years even even the panteon. Crucaths the

street and was the house. So she she said she never he used to go to

the bula because she always sentia things very rare but at the

same time she well as being and having other type of

mentality but she always he's always to be to

get to get to get to live to house for herensia

unfortunately so her abelita pass a better and

to give to let him this house in herence is to his

not a one of his his to the nieta what we

what we we we then so she she received

the herensia and no pierde the opportunity to

get to live apart no like all a

almost almost adult adolescent then she empack his

and say okay I have house for me solo. Let me

for there. He got to the house and the reality is that she

never noticed things strange. The climate was more dense.

There was something in the environment that involved all

the atmosphere in something more more but she

said I have a pantheon in front so

I always I don't think in many things

but there there there there many mortito Well,

for that's that's that's that's that's there's other things that

she percibi she not about but mentally they said no, no, no it's what many

people have done. We've done. We've got the explanation or simply ignore us. So she

came to the house obviously yeah there had his papas and his tios

and they had taken pertinences and this and the other He gets to packer and he's

going to do you have some more for you also where he also where he will be

going to get a bit more obviously first is the abetation the

house great this this this was a ropero vio

of these of those of this cedro that come in generation in generation

so so then she open and she does know that the

partences of the well they have he'd have to start his roba

to hold his prendas but while she was doing all this was obviously it was

night he had a hour a hour a pretty and the house

you you're just you're to come to the front of and then and then

and then the other side of the car that that he began

to get to out of his pertenances I used how there were

in other areas of the house suavement she's he's going saying okay

me I'm suggesting this not so this is so opening

the ropero of the abel she encounter with a card a card

that was a a she's she she she

took the card, and it was a card that's written by his abuio, a letter. She'll ask I extrano, because he says, why don't they've got to my Tios?

Yeah. Well, the garra, it and when the first part, it's written in mayusculas, the words, no, lovied, important.

To see, a coda, termina to open it and he'll back to start

all and he's to learn that that more than to be

like words or dedicatoria was an advertency that

he said to her because this she was she had before

to start to who to to go to his nita, and

they said, no it and he said, no the night,

it's a bell in the front of the door principal and recita

this or the of the narration for that the an not

not to the point. So, obviously she and she he's

a person that's a person that's He said, I'm not going to do this. And more, to do all the night. So, all the nights have to go,

to bring a bell, to put it in front of the door principal, and there, parada, recital a narration all the nights. I mean, obviously, no, I'm going to

do. I mean, I think, in this. Then she didn't know that between his house and the cemetery, practically

his house, was the place to transit for these almas that were trapped. The house was the

only that was interpon between the world of the people and the people.

She didn't it. That night she, she, the letter, the same that was

going to doble her, let in the so and he he's got for there. He's

got to those things. Yeah I've to do it to be to get to

do and and he's dispone to do to do

to get us to doormida, he's a very a little in the door

in the house. A drop a fortisim so she obviously she's and it

with fear. Because more than to think that that's

about a thing spiritual someone someone want to get to

the door that obviously she was so it's

so for some after After to think in that

they got the word of the of the letter. But he was to know

to be able to this. Simply I'm not to do to do that I'm

going to do that all the time that you know so that I'm mentally

that this were only just are only minutes and she again

again again again again again again again when

imagine you you're in the invitation. You're you're on you're

there no no no noise as it's there

there was there but at the part of the the

grittos she started a kind of a kind

that Jolanda Jolanda she she said I'm I'm imagining

things I know I'm I'm saying my name

but in When she Sienta in the camera prested attention

and he'll hear of quite clarisima Jolanda Jolanda. Obviously

yeah enter the MEDA because if it was very very clear the

words. They were saying their name. In that moment she

described in her in her that a free intense is like if

entered to the situation and And it begins, like, expand and she says something that I, I assure, Paco, that I can't

talk. So, it was something so, it's a little bit, so, yeah. So, she, she she never, I mean, what had entered to her

court. The gulpe that he was because entered something to the house, and that dense

that sent you in his room, was the presence of some some of the things that they

have entered. She she pared at the camera, you know,

and he's to feel much free, that he doesn't get to get to

do that and he a door principal, gravisim error and no he no

he opened the door. I was all the door. I only only saw all the

long, the times. In that moment when she see the

door and the But he went to go to his room was where he

took the first encounter. They were outside. And they had

entered. They were inside. She what me describe is that

were silhouettes human but were all they were many in the

passillo that went to her car and she

kept in the door principal and describe that in when he said

they were siluettas but it was that the rostro was like that the

time and had been his rosses only were in the siluettas and they were many

she she kept parada and said I need I need to I need to get

but my rodillas my my feet my my my

my no respond she she she she miles,

they started to walk to where she she was she was very very close of the

door, I could open it and get running but not was the fear.

The fear this she was her her her she

felt the car accelerated and I felt many

things in that moment and he heard that

this manifestation or these manifestations are saying the

name, Yolanda, and they began to tell them, devulven us that you has quited. The light.

Devolven us the light. And yet when she heard the the light, he was

that it was that that was that she put in front of the door. Then

he had to do your question. In that moment he recorded that one

side was the mess. It was the bell. With the hands temblorosas

agar the veil and intents to bring it but it was a tantal the temblad

of the manos brother? No could. And these things were coming

and they were walking to her. No could get to get to

move only could move certain parts of their certain when

for final the fosph these things were at casas

centimeters of it. It's the last that she desvanece

for complete. What what is then what the is the

light of the day. She she kept dormida in the

piece in front of the door with the door

abirt she He's sacked on, because Desperto, he thought that all was a a peasant

his great surprise brother. Is that all the the passillo was

full of sinisas like had been an incendio that never

existed nothing was but there can't but there

and the rar is that there had many many

there marked in the sinisa and And she did know

that those silhouettes that sonned between parentheses were

real. And again, the same the story of the

time, she kept there, because no he didn't there

all the time, the time that's the time, he

continued doing the ritual of the abuel. And she

and she was the photo of how lucy to

that house for out that they're going to be to be that

for me more more than to give a record to be an

advertency the abel that his house was a

where these lives pass and and they were

and there was there a price to pay

for the house no car for for me

something car chalons that good good story I think

that's a few years I'm in Patscuar in Michokan and we've just recently

with the school when it's the time of the Murtos in Mexico so we

took over the tradition they they said that there has been the tradition

of the day of Murtos okay I don't know but I took to be

there just in the Isla of Hanipzia okay I don't see if you've seen photos of the island

so I've seen photos So when when it's the ceremony of the day of Murtos all the

people is a island is a mountain so for you get to up to all are

escalers no there are cars no there is carer caminando

all all is caminato all all is coming so so we so we we're

we're we're in the part of where they're an event and from and

from all that we were visitants in the people, in that moment, we'd have all the spectacle of what happened in the people, no? So,

it was a determined hour of the night, the people apagas those loses for complete. Okay. And why I'm told me that's

because me recorded the story that you that's about the light, of how the light, of a certain

way, a guide to his almas or well, so, so, so, it's,

mark the way, to, where, So, exactly. The people commenced to back from

and comes to go back from all the mountainia. So the mountain comes illuminating when the people when the people when the

pantheon is in the part of the bottom. So when the people get to the pantheon, you see

all the way of vellas in all the mountaina that they're going to because it comes outing

the people that live there, they're going and they're going to they're going with their

arman the altar in the tomb of his, of his defunctus. So, no, and then it's spectacular, see the, the way, the way, the road. And this story that you told me was record, I said, because for that is the creencia of them. That's the creency of them. That's, that they mark in the way to get, and when they're getting

and when they get down and arm in the altar, can't pass time with the almas of those difunters that are in that place desksandos sepulted so then I

recorded much of this history and the light is primordial even in the sessions

Uyha so occupa the light of a because is what it's also

to also to a what that the spirit for we don't

say she never the offender but is what it's the love

the actually in a session where I'm an Antoios Amudio,

he asked him what you want to and the planchette no mark a letter

markable the direction of the well I want so so so

I'm something something is important the light so so

and think that casually like you comment about this type of

things in places in places in places that are solos

they are more they're more no. Yeah, yeah. So,

we're we've been in a city, but I'm in a little bit, but I'm in it's just a

illuminated. No, I know, you know, you know, you know, you know, that's

that's a lot to do you? But a half hour of here? Media hour of here.

And, and precisely that is the the next the next the next story that I,

the same story that I'm okay. Uh, you know, it's a story very,

that you're going to that's going to that this is the end of the years 80 this is this not were in the

2000 it's not the years 80 at finales of the 80s in a municipal of this area of this

area the place was known for being a place very very of your

population were adults adultos adults major so generally when there are

people so where there are adults major those levels of violence

and that type of things, so are very very bad. Very very

generally. The bigito because there only just can't and they're there's like in the

people, in the holidays, but generally these people are very very very so we're we're doing

so we're we're around so there there's a church in this little, that the

people, but the domingos, the majority of the people of the people,

I assisted to this church in the reunions dominical of the misa,

no? So, so we know, us this people, no, the people

tranquil, that had a only one those, the adults mayores went there,

they were there all the time, but in the street of the church, there was

a little and this tair was abandoned and had much time that was that day

there had been abandoned no, then, so, never never

never never was a was a person was No, no. And this tallyer was a

a day of train abandoned. Okay. There were many years. Of one day for another,

the the other. The other when there was when there misa. Okay. And for

them, imagine, if you put, if you put in the context of that, well,

they're going to be going to go to the church or very time. Sure.

So, because the church was never because the they're going to to hear the

people who are around of the church and they're to communicate to communicate

to be the sacristan and a day the sacristan decided to go to be

what the when the sacristan enter and he encounter with there

had windows there there was a disaster in the church

something that had in the entire abandoned. Okay. So,

then they started to know, not it was the first first time, not it was a new thing,

and it that was always that they were that they were, and that then they were and then they were

to get them to get into the time, until they didn't, a group delictive,

to get to the people. Right. And so, and so, and so, and so, and so,

in the tager, that was abandoned that nobody entered. The A place perfect, no?

Sure. So, a pair of of the people, was, they're in the people, the

people, to external, those inquietude to external what was going, and when they get to the people to

say, you know, what, we've been about a church, we've got things, this, this,

this, many times these people, we're people, basically, no? Uses and

customs. Uses and costumes, and how you can you can't imagine, no

No, they did nothing. So, imagineate, every more the insecurity in their mind was growing.

Right. And, and yeah not only only did robing things of the church,

but they're to get to get to things. In their house, they're to get to

robar. That the thing, that's, no, and they started to pass more

things. So, so they they were more disconfian, every had more

more fear. Obviously, as a adult and mayors, you know, you know,

and that's that's a that's not the in the population. So, when they're in this, what they're doing

is that, what they're they're put alerta. Between them. Yes. Between the people, because

you know, when the authority not you doesn't do care of this, then someone more has to do this.

So, the things still were going to listening Ruizos in the teler

until that a person that's an person one of the one of the

one of the people full of people of people of people and and

Aurora went to his house and Aurora started

that there was one of those delinquents that were getting

to the people that was that and for

various years Aurora she did know that she

was in a little that's and he and he he was when

he was when I'm that this person was where he was I'm

at the hour was or I'm did all what

did all that after that he took the

and so so so he could call and

and he he can Aurora but but he

So it's just a way horrible. Okay. The jala, the, let a, a terrain, baldio, that's

to forcegear with her. Obviously, he wanted, his intentions were very bad as to Aurora,

not? So, so it's a, Aurora, the and when they were

forsegeating, unfortunately, there are two persons more that they're going, they're to get them,

and when to him, they're going to a rosario, and then romp the rosario, no? Then,

He didn't remember of the Rosario. Simply He went to and this person who the attack was and said,

this is going to get to be going to be to get to you guys. And so the person goes to

get to the house, these two people, they're in Aura to your house, and

when they're going to get to Don Ramiro, the papa of Aurora. He's they're all

to Don Ramiro. Attacked to your daughter, Don Ramiro, well, what's

what does is to ask him to ask you, you're well, they're

revisance, I'm and then it's all all right with Aurora no, but

the past the next, they're with the otherities they're with the authorities,

Aurora, to tell what I've to happen, me attacked, me and they're

and they're doing this and the they're not they're not. But result that one of the

policeies that was there was a car where he was he was

he was he's all see that his other companions not did nothing, he put

in a quarter with Don Ramiro and the other two people to go to

go to to get to and then to be a way, encarles. It was something

because they were they were much more. They were only only were four. And how

you're going to be a group delictive well? Well, when you never to be

four and they're in mind that two are adults major. So, so,

So, but even if they're the decision to go, they're going to get to the and the police with his

lantern, it's a and when he begins to alarm, it's it's called that they

are despaoried of the of the dayer. So, it's that they're they're

getting things, they're they're going from, like, as ratas, like the

ratas, like the they're, so they're they're they're what? to the two days

they're to, they're to find a who had attacked Aurora. And this sir,

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For so they used, they were running, and this man, when they were They're going and they're going to and they

they're this reaction because they went to they're going four they're going other two

days and they're and they're the man who attacked Aurora in the street.

And what you think that I think you I'm in the hand. In the the man

I was that he had been rot. So it so it's a story that is a

thing that is a much that because, it's a certain manner, those

were in the almas, I think, different to the stories that we've been talking here,

yeah, they've helped. They've heard. Is that I have heard that there

people that they are people, then, then, to the purgatorio favors.

But, but that when no there, a, or no compels a trot,

Well, obviously, it's what he occurred to our first protagonist. So, for that's

that we're to have to have to be to be to be it. Because we know that there's

that I'm to know, I remember when I interviewed to a person that said, we said,

we'll talk about the Santa Merta, we're about about this and the other. And if

is that is that there one that you can't get more. Because no

would doubt in all and to and get in the poor and get

consuming to the bones and at the life. Yeah, you know, it's

it cobra. So, you have to have much careful. This story that

I'm going to tell Sergio, is one of the stories that me bulled the

head. In serious. Because, I, I'm, we, we,

we're, we're about this part of that not they're mal. Dependent

much the type of spirit, the soul, how they want to say, that is present. I'll tell the history of Berta. Berta,

was a little bit of 20 years, that was a little in a country, in the South. Desafortunately, his state of his family,

his state economic, was very low. And for The mal the family, the father of family

and one of the brothers, who were in the construction in a hospital,

they'd the life in an accident. So, the father, the

provider, the brother, the second, provider, so they're not they,

then. So, so she kept aberted with her mom, who was the

two brothers that were in primary. She had 20

years. She also also he also unfortunately when this

so that tragic and see the situation economic in how she had the family Berta

had to have to the school and also to work in

the people and even she she working and

her and also also working like costurer board

and doing this the money not didn't not

and that's all the time, the theme economic was provocating that would have discussions for all. So Berta and her her mom

all the time and they used, there were much scarcity in house. So in an occasion that they were

discussing much, Berta, a friend had said, let's go, to north. There,

there are many companies where they can contractar in a maquila and we're going to have a better life

so when I was discussing with his mom he said I'm going to go to get to

my friends of this situation because if me I'm in this people

I don't do not nothing so then then then then I

then he said if that's what you say that is what you want

you you you have my bentis you always

I'm always I'm She'll respond very sarcastically. Always pedias for my my father and for my brother. And look,

how we're as what you want. She unpack his things and she's go. Lager to Monterey

where he's kept in house to those that were known more of

his mom. And the reality is the change of the change of all the soled

the adaptation was a thing was a question a difficult

for a little of 20 years. Very very young still. So she had in his shoulders

a responsibility a lot of his family to get to help. When she gets rapidly is contracted in a company

in a makeletora a backlator a quite great. It's of the most young and when

to get to the fabric then it is a monster many departments many employees

many employees desafortunately, and I think, desafortunately, because I think in all the work is this. Three women, yeah, grandes, of time,

was, they were like the paddened, and she was, to get to the new ingress, and be very

grosser with them. So, so, Berta, he took to know, to one of them,

that was the most Malta Lorena Lorena all the time molestable Bertha all the time

he put in problems all the time she had bad and she she didn't because

I was a moment where he said because you're like I come here to work

I'm need need I'm my mom and my and my family I'm

I'm I'm I'm never I'm don't you don't you don't

we can't let's let's I'm going to say something. Here in this place there are

to have to be to know to the people. In this fabric are things

very rare. Well, she she didn't not he took

attention and decided to continue working. Passed the time and

they moved to a new department to a an

emasen where was a child and talking with him

was a little a little very very he made the

question a person that has been many years working he

said this what on that to have more

more to the people the the man he

a gotcha a look and he a smile

and he he says he is that here

there there there and there so many many

years because as as a fabric, and it's years when

there were processes that actuales of security, there were people who were people

that were the life. And it's there are areas in the company

where there these manifestations. So I think that is to what she was to

referia. Berta is she says but is I don't think in this

and the time that I know I've never no Oh, well, no, don't you

So, so, are things that's there's a question. So,

a part of that time, Avertal, they were to pass things, when they were in

the almasan, he was, in one occasion, she was she was on a

machine, and he said, many bars of the video that were on

on a mess, plas, plas, they started to get, but she was

when she was coming to learn Loretna. So, she I saw that always when was this

lady was this woman that she was to get to get to the new ingress. So,

then never, never, never, never, I know, they were they were the activity

paranormal of there. But she said, I don't me going to suggestionar, I

still working. In one occasion, it was the night, because we were to

rotating the turn. Yeah, she was He encountered operating a

machine, he had some taponcitos in the own for the sound

a little so much that she did you hear of her machine to get

to the tapones and still and still listening the the

door. Sal running the the lights were up

and he started to get much fear. So

decided to go to the bathroom, to lavas a car to

start to start and when he gets to be in a man, a woman a woman

with a woman and he and he's he's, she's, what you see a

very altera me I'm Marta what you know she

she said she said she she said she there's that there

are some things I'm just I'm you know a

Lorena and the senior she's he kept mirand

and that this woman all the time she's not a person and the

other the new ingress said I'm my hour of food

because not we don't go to go to go

and well I don't yeah yeah yeah I

don't once and they're at two and they're

on a coffee and they they they're to

really that this person encountered in the Sr. Marta,

peace, tranquillity, he found an amy, the first company of the factory that he

made a because all they were very problematic and so. And so, not he was attacking.

The contrary. He was talking, he was doing giving, and then they were talking and

all the time he said, she that woman does that's so and with other

two more and they just to molest to the company new. Don't you don't you

make a case. They're just they they're going to get them, they're going to

be able to and he says, ah, you know, yeah, yeah, I'm going to my hour

of food. You're, you know, no, don't you don't you don't be here in this

company and no, it doesn't, no, it's, so, yeah, we'll be

a day we're, then she go, and she go to and she go to,

and still to work. She kept with that good of because, because,

the really is that, it's for first A lot of us, I know a person

that made a person that no me attack, a person that I can't consider a amiga real.

So, she got to the area and passed those days and they were going these things

in your area. They'd the lights, the they packable the

machines that operable, all the time I'd hear about the things. Of

the repent coincidia with that curious always, it was on the turn

of the night that was She was Dr. Marta and always

was available for to be able to be to talk so she

in her this part important in a occasion happened a

very rare Berta went to come at the night

in the night and get to come door where there were only

two people sent in different parts she she

had a little a He'd give a coffee, Deja the coffee in the mesa, he'd do

the world, and there other that he'd give to pankeys and golosinas. And there

he's a good a lot. Saka what he to come, and she regress to

his mess. When she's looking the table, she's

a man that he did a boffetada and he he'd the coffee to the

piece. She no saw the the moment and he looked at the look at

and he he said, why he did know that he's done that you know,

he's a car to get a daughter. Dr. Marka, why he did he

did he she said she was she said, and he said, no you know

you'll go to get your food only. She did the

world and he went. But why he did much

pain because there two people and the person

of the tinder, haled trapos and he started to keep with that.

Why he he made my coffee? Well, he went to work and that's

he was very rarro. Yeah were in temporaries of dead of mortals and you

know, the altars and all this so. So, then the day

next he's a person, the person that was the person that had

the comed and he said, Berta, I need to go back after your morning, I need to show you, I need to

some videos that you have to see. If it's fine, I'm going. So, it's all right. So, it's all to be to

get the end of time, not to work, he's not to be to see a person of the

comer, he'll get the Monday, to the fabric and they're adornando

with all the thematic of the dead, and they were on the

altar. She gets and see the altar and see the other

and it was there my where he felt that

a cold a cold he on the photos

of the people and was dead was there

was a woman that had had She doesn't know We don't know

We can't How is possible That's Her friend Her friend With her She was the She wrote

the coffee In that she She doesn't She was She was going And when I was Rumb to her

Aria She top to the person That's He said He said I need You know

I'm I'm But before She said Oh, you know this woman?

Yes. He worked here so much years. Fallece he's a year.

How is possible? And yeah that they said, I said, I said, I said, I

said, I had to show me, I'm to show a evidence, a video capted by the camera

to the camera at the comedor. Where she see how she entered to

the Nobody, no they were not even the two people

that were in this video how she she gets and then she goes, and then

the woman that was that was and when she went to the machine to make

to this woman he put in her a coffee a a type

of substance and when she did the World, Lorena she

had gone. And when I was to give to do in the camera

how of the nothing they're in the coffee. And she she

and she and he he says what he says no me you're

to be I'm I'm talking to she she me she

me I'm I'm just I'm just I'm just

I see the video where this woman put something

and you did a report to the resources human and they they're

to be how this woman that's that was molestand she was like

a carpet no she not he did in some after

he back and he he and he he

said to tell let's let's that me say

she she she obviously Bertas not know what's what's

really you're I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

don't know me molesten me they're they're and they they're

they're those those the marcus what what you do you

refer there's there there and he he's to write

to and I'm and the people that they're

in the comed yeah know what they I

And I'm sorry, I'm I'm going to say she she's she's what she's

what I'm she's she'll she'll she's she says how you're in the

fabric and he he said all what he said that's impressive I mean

yeah I'm there's this the coffee this and the other

his mom she's he said since you've no I've

decided to give to let's that you care that's that

not what what to your father and her she all the

time she was talking with people who he he

he he and he he so incredible man

yeah To the mortals. Or the lives. Or to the two? We have to care of all. Of all, my. Of all, of all. And, well, precisely the, the story with that I want to.

Serrar. Serrar, terminar. This part is equal. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's Well, the story of Sebastian. Sebastian, Sebastian, he's working

installations electric. All we've seen these posts, antennas enormous, that, well,

we've seen a people operating and when, and when we go to the internet or something, they're coming,

no, and they're and all this. So, for politics of the company, never

could do this job. Solos. Simply they'd have to be two people.

Perejas. Pirejas, minimum, no? So, because there had to manage, there was to

get to get to be, armrarsse, to get to get to work, and then always always were

to be two persons, as minimum. Okay. So, generally, they were to terminate

these commissions that they were before the midday. Yeah. Because, because in the

city, in the time, in May, are 50, 52 degrees, so, so,

sum, to that the of aluminum, the trages that they use are some camisies very grosses and

the cold of the city so always they're trying to terminate his assuptus before the middle day.

So, one morning, his company Armando, he says, you know, you know, I'm going to

get to the turn because I'm a compromise in the school of my child. So,

Sebastian, be the opportunity, because obviously if Sebastian had done that, generated a

money extra. Sure. No, so Sebastian see, the opportunity, and he says, no you

don't you do so. And then Sebastian, take the job, he only, he's only,

take the carnet, sube all the things, he's going to the time, and

we're going to a little there was a lot of a lot of a place, a place just more

or less or less only, so, Sebastian gets, he put the

camis this that that they does the company, back the scale of

the carmionette, the commode in the poste, and he's to feel the cold, yeah, it was a

pastadito of the midday. And then thence then he does a get a

quick, that's that's that's coming in the sun, it was coming in the

sun, it's starting, then he to start, and the only that he's he's just

he's maybe is that so he makes, and the repent, he's a of the

heart very very very and when he open

the eyes he does know that he had

that he and he and what he he

is this the cold that he he the

of the of the of the concrete he

and the person and the cam and he

and he and the of the the of the

the the of the the he does know that there's a person

that is a person who is a man, a man that he described

with a rostro with a a scarletrice in the car, a mark in the

barce and he he was going to the carter to pay to pay

and then he does he goes and then he gets with the medical, the

paramedics he suben an ambulance and and they're

in this way that the senior there is the that's the

he did, and then so the person and the they're saying, and they're

saying, you're to get to get to the hospital, they're to get

in the way the the accident to the hospital log to get

the hemorragia of the because of the the goal, so

then you get to the hospital and in the hospital when when the

thing apatosa the doctors commenced to do the

studios pertinence all the tomographies, all the, all what there was to do, to do it, to do it,

to start, that there was a little more grave. So, so they'd know that unfortunately,

no, there was fracturing in any part of his body of his body, no?

So, so in this moment, he's, Karen, the wife of Sebastian. Yeah,

and then then they they're going to Karen, no, then your husband, suffered

an accident, but unfortunately, no has fructure just those gulpes

and has to keep to observe an observation no only to just to

make sure us to so that then Sebastian he he comment to

his person between dormido and all the pastures that he

had done to calm the the comment fiftate that

there was a man he he he said he but he

had the car like a kind of a mark in the

brazo and he had kind that rangia at the hour of

to come to come in. And then Karen is enoja and he you can't you can't

you can't be to the person for how they've been if not if you're not

you'd be not even I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm so so I'm

really particular the aspect of this person because never he never

I've never he the medical and Sebastian be to he's

and between he's how I'm when I go and the medical he

he said a manna in the time and then so effectively the next day

they get they're they're they're they're they're down to Sebastian

yeah Karen before to go to go to the hospital

go to he's he's he's he's he's he said thanks

for help me for give me the first for so

and the doctor he And he said, well, for that we're that's our work, it's our mission.

Sure. So, they're to go to the days, and the end of the time, they're going to

the church. And Sebastian decided to go to to thank because he was alive, it was been

better, fatal, no, the accident. So, they're to get to the church that day,

and just when they're doing the pass, yeah when is done the misa. The part where

they're in the hand, right? Where they're in the man, and you're just they're doing, and all. He he'll look at the part of the back, and he's done that in the part of the other, there's

this person that he describes. The sir that the Lord, that he did, in the part of the back. So, he

he intends to go to to say, but as they're doing the pass, when he gets to where this person, yeah no

was, you know, he, then, so, so, so, it's per die like this opportunity. So, he, to the

next days, he reincorpora his job, and when he gets to work to normally, he'll get

with his companyer, Armando, he says, Armando, he says, but, you know,

he said, me, he said, me, he said, but you know, that's that

day, I think that when when I'm in the way to work, I'm

he's he's and he said, but, but, but, but,

but, but, but, here, and it's termine the day and all,

the next the end of the church, Sebastian. And now, before that they were

the pass, he'll and then there's a there. There's, then. So,

so what does Sebastian is that he's to him, before he before, and then

he doesn't get a and then he he says, and in the side, he, only I'm

just, I'm so, because me You know, you know, and he said, but why me

has been been doing? And he says, sir, what do you pass? I don't have been

doing. I always have been here. Only you you know me had noted. He said

apart, I think it's because you're not you know, and he says the Lord, but

why not I'm not a molestia of your part? And he said, Sebastian,

no, no, no, is no, simply me I've I've given that

me has been that's so the so the man he says

what he is that the person one no, no put

attention to the person to until someone and

he and he says but disculpame never I never think

that you cause a molestia and then Sebastian

he says no no no no no no no no it is

no no thank to thank to the He talked to the medical, and to the paramedicos, and me

subured to the ambulance, is that I'm still alive. And then, the sir, he says, I think the gulfed you affected more. And he said, Sebastian, why? I saw the medic, I saw the paramedic, I was to see, you. I was just. He said, the sir. I just

to see my camionetta. And, until the day of today, no, me explain how the hemorrhagia he detoo. No, man, and then the sir, the sir, he says,

definitively to you, something more to be doing. No. I know what is. You have to be

to be but that something more great you care, something more grand to do you.

Wow. So, Sebastian, well, he's kept very impacted. Yeah, clear.

He said this to his mom, Irene, and I he says, you have to be grateful

with the almas, because I all the time I'm that I'm that they care.

So this is the history of Sebastian that that's that's a little. We're

told this history and I think that's one of the demonstrations of

wow. More more more more more than I have

read. Of actually precisely the petitions I I personally

not I'm this type of people, but I respect much to those who have this type of credences,

they're in their motives and it's well, many of us it's actually in a question,

but if so it's me has a thing a time interesting. The fact the time

of the purgatorio animas in general, I think it for more episodes, many

stories that we have in the courier contando us this type of experiences

for me me have soomomom you have sombrado. How you did it? Very well. The is that while

was I'm repasable no, no, no, I don't see, this so, how how you know, but right

talking about it here and, and being really you get in the sentiment of the people and about that are

stories reales. Sure. Some stories, like you said the initial, of people that you can

not you know what you can't never. Exactly. So, then to understand the

story of that way, I think that we're more conscientious, no? Exactly. To simply be empathic with what whatever that you create.

Putt you in your zapatos. What we've said to be empathic, create and respect what the people professing, what they're

the respect to the whole. I don't know I've passed quite well. I'm going to have passed a lot.

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