EXTRA ANORMAL - Jugó con Niños MUERTOS sin Saberlo | Historias de Niños Siniestros

Episode Date: September 6, 2024

En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, junto a mi amigo Guadalupe Naranjo, contamos algunas de las historias más escalofriantes que nos envían nuestros seguidores. Entre ellas, destaca una aterr...adora historia sobre alguien que jugó con niños sin saber que ya estaban muertos. Los relatos de niños siniestros se apoderan de este episodio, revelando el lado más oscuro y perturbador de lo paranormal. Acompáñanos mientras desentrañamos estos aterradores relatos que te dejarán sin palabras. ¡No te pierdas este episodio lleno de misterio y terror! Recuerda suscribirte y darle like si te gustó el video. Canal de mi Invitado:    / @guadalupenaranjodespiertat2941  

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Starting point is 00:00:22 Buy your tickets now. I get a free chili dog. Chili Dog, not included. The Naked God. Tickets on sale now. August 1st. And she says, Moma, Papa, something
Starting point is 00:00:32 here. Something is going to be my brother. No, there's a house, there's a little
Starting point is 00:00:39 I've got to be in the screen. The Papa started to come to
Starting point is 00:00:43 no didn't he said nothing. He was in front of the television
Starting point is 00:00:49 and he and he and he in this moment I want that you get yourself
Starting point is 00:00:57 and you retires of my kids. No I want
Starting point is 00:01:02 that you don't I want to you I'm to
Starting point is 00:01:05 you do you do you get to my house
Starting point is 00:01:07 back the the mother she said she was
Starting point is 00:01:14 with her consider that was a time to
Starting point is 00:01:19 a time a fact a thing was a
Starting point is 00:01:24 thing was a special in the confess to her nieta that she
Starting point is 00:01:29 had the same don of her. The don don of the medium that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Also he said Paco that those children and those people that were to visit
Starting point is 00:01:41 to their house and with the house she had in the garden no man
Starting point is 00:01:47 they were spirits of people of people yeah fall wow
Starting point is 00:01:53 In that moment He's a soma Be a three Nineos afloat In front of the door Asombing his Cavesas
Starting point is 00:02:07 Contra Dissu Let me enter When they They're They're looking That he's He's looking
Starting point is 00:02:13 For the Ventano The three Giroin His Rostro To him And he He says
Starting point is 00:02:18 It's like If all his all of his eyes were completely negros
Starting point is 00:02:25 We're going to be able to be able to be. I'm going to be a good. What kind, am Igo, be welcome to a chapter more of podcast Extra Anormal.
Starting point is 00:03:02 My name is Paco Arias and I'm very happy to start here with all this occasion I'm content
Starting point is 00:03:09 family because me accompany a good a person that you know and even even some have contacted
Starting point is 00:03:14 and he's with me my friend Gua Lupe Naranjo how is hello how much
Starting point is 00:03:20 good good thanks to thank you thank you thank you for the invitation. And, well,
Starting point is 00:03:25 I thank you. I thank you. The opportunity to be able to be able to be here with your audience. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Thank you. Before to start the invitation, and to start and to talk of the thing that came, because I should be one of the
Starting point is 00:03:37 things that not could have a better person to narrar these stories, a person like you with much experience and that's
Starting point is 00:03:45 toped very to get this type of cases. For the people that are the people who are
Starting point is 00:03:51 Would you like that you presentes? Redes social. Sure that is. My name is Guadalupe Naranjo. For who you know, and for who is not, a good in salutarles. My reds social are
Starting point is 00:04:00 Guadalupe Naranjo in Facebook, my page, or a page personal, and in YouTube me can't as a Guadalupe
Starting point is 00:04:08 Naranjo, Despienta your potential. Perfect. In a way, I'm in Instagram, like Jose
Starting point is 00:04:14 Guadalupe Naranjo, point 28. So, so is how they can find out in that
Starting point is 00:04:18 perfect, my, coach, You're a person that's a time of the mind
Starting point is 00:04:24 and the reality is that you have top with many cases that have with the
Starting point is 00:04:29 stories that we're going to talk about the day of today. I'll say
Starting point is 00:04:32 something that came in an episode that I consider a
Starting point is 00:04:38 a little a tono I I'm to mention to the
Starting point is 00:04:42 audience because if there there's a little of I
Starting point is 00:04:47 like I would I'm there There are cases that, really are really so
Starting point is 00:04:51 are very, and for me when they're to be with with little with infants, with babies, and over
Starting point is 00:04:59 all you're when you're father, I think you get to get even more. You know
Starting point is 00:05:04 that we know we in this night we're we're sent us on the
Starting point is 00:05:10 omission to the omission for that we give us and the people
Starting point is 00:05:15 know what you know what you know the thing that we're going to
Starting point is 00:05:19 the day of today as you as a minute in the title of the
Starting point is 00:05:23 video are experiences that they have passed to any
Starting point is 00:05:28 or experiences of the people that are what
Starting point is 00:05:33 are there there many many cases that are
Starting point is 00:05:38 that they're about or cases of people that
Starting point is 00:05:42 can those people that they don't understand I
Starting point is 00:05:46 would that me that What do you think about of all this? Definitely,
Starting point is 00:05:52 Paco, not we don't not even to be to be an normal to occur.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Right. Invariably of the experiences that I have talked to work,
Starting point is 00:06:04 I've encountered cases that really if they're to think to
Starting point is 00:06:08 think, what can get to get to get to do.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yes. Because we don't we can to leave the problem,
Starting point is 00:06:16 the attention, the same the same that have yet to experimented
Starting point is 00:06:22 the people who are living in the carne property. Practically
Starting point is 00:06:28 it's impact. The fact, when I talk to work these
Starting point is 00:06:32 cases, we're not it is like if polularer or weren't
Starting point is 00:06:37 many those cases, no, but if those that have
Starting point is 00:06:40 done, are very impactant and and, over all for me
Starting point is 00:06:45 in their moment. Why? Because were, as to the initial the
Starting point is 00:06:49 first experiences that I took to try to in the rubro. Where we're
Starting point is 00:06:54 in the theme spirit, where they're in spirits, entities,
Starting point is 00:07:02 or call it energies too. Malignor that's, in some of
Starting point is 00:07:05 cases. Why you think that the children are more sensible to this?
Starting point is 00:07:10 Because I, I don't Unfortunately, we've seen a world where we invade movies, series, many things that contaminant also in the same time our mind.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And some parents, when his kids, they're saying, Papa, fichate that I'm talking with an amigito, or I'm seeing this, and it's something very fantaciosos. Well, it gets to the part negative, no, when the papas
Starting point is 00:07:35 not, when the parents don't, no, but you, why do you think that the kids are more sensibles to this? Fidate that is a question a little difficult to
Starting point is 00:07:43 contested. Some cases, a few isolated, where, in a manner spontaneous,
Starting point is 00:07:52 we're going to say it, in a natural, so, I consider, and I think the
Starting point is 00:07:58 children, and I say, for experience proper, the children, they're
Starting point is 00:08:03 a certain capacity or certain ability perceptual, me refer to the relation that
Starting point is 00:08:10 has the perception is that's the capacity that all the human, we have to
Starting point is 00:08:17 capture a through the we've been, what we're we're seeing or we're to say, a time of
Starting point is 00:08:22 the sense. So, then a little, you're to be quite with me.
Starting point is 00:08:27 He's starting a process of the development. Sure, it's a live in
Starting point is 00:08:31 blank. Exactly. No, there's a contamination as well as an adult or an
Starting point is 00:08:35 adult or an adult or the adult or the television, of the cinema, or of
Starting point is 00:08:40 some story narrated by someone or a podcast, or as
Starting point is 00:08:44 when we're common when we're when we're people, in those years, we're
Starting point is 00:08:49 we're and many of these stories, and much of the stories that's the chanek, the
Starting point is 00:08:56 apparition, the morto, et cetera. So, so it was a atmosphere in the or
Starting point is 00:09:01 the time night, that generated fear, it, and it was there there was a certain reference at
Starting point is 00:09:08 level mental, but in a new, Paco, we're talking of a child, that's in the age infante of the 2 years, 3, 4, 5 years, that's being manifesting in the vision,
Starting point is 00:09:21 is to say, that's looking, certain forms or to certain people in some space of the room, of the house where
Starting point is 00:09:28 live, what, what you say? Oh, God. Or, so, think it's for a moment. I've been with papas,
Starting point is 00:09:34 my who have had been this type of experiences with his kids.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And it's a, it's very no, I don't know how call it. I'm
Starting point is 00:09:44 really impotency because they feel the impotency. And when I'm
Starting point is 00:09:47 when I'm what I do, Paco, what I do? My he says is that's
Starting point is 00:09:51 there and me abrace and I know I'm and I don't see if I'm not see if
Starting point is 00:09:58 really it really in first and as I'm like the we always we're
Starting point is 00:10:03 to give to your son. You know to your little to you know your better than
Starting point is 00:10:08 you know when really is something that is really very, very in-serio and if you're
Starting point is 00:10:12 seeing and if you don't believe, because you don't know you see? That's
Starting point is 00:10:17 you don't say that that's a clear. And it's a thing very very
Starting point is 00:10:21 very important. If me let me permites I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:10:25 I'm I'm with the first relato and partido is anonym
Starting point is 00:10:30 also us tell in the story of a little I'm want to
Starting point is 00:10:36 give a context to the people emilio was a very imperactive
Starting point is 00:10:41 is the second of three brothers his his brother he
Starting point is 00:10:47 he he has years Rodrigo and there the little
Starting point is 00:10:51 Mario that between Mario and Emilio is they
Starting point is 00:10:53 have a no we don't not because the man no major because the man no more
Starting point is 00:10:59 he's out of the costal. Okay. We're going to talk of Emilio, the protagonist and his brother of a year,
Starting point is 00:11:06 Mario. Because the two, as it's almost of the same age, was practically were equal for many
Starting point is 00:11:14 things. The case of Emilio is that as that, as a new impractive, a young with a much energy,
Starting point is 00:11:21 of the actually the parents, they got to say that was a little to a certain
Starting point is 00:11:25 point problematic. since that was very little. It was a little he was a little
Starting point is 00:11:30 he would be to be to get a he would be a little a little a little a little
Starting point is 00:11:37 was a manno was a more was a temple he was he was
Starting point is 00:11:42 he he'd be atele but he was more he was he was
Starting point is 00:11:48 an torvegino the the house was empty and he gave
Starting point is 00:11:51 emilio of the school and he's a disaster. For this,
Starting point is 00:11:54 we're to sitar when they're in the age of Kinder.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Emilio, being how is, one once a situation that a person
Starting point is 00:12:08 that a person that had been a patio, and the good
Starting point is 00:12:13 to be first, Emilio so he kept parado, he rode what
Starting point is 00:12:17 he was in the man, and he got parado mirro to
Starting point is 00:12:21 a corner to the patio where there is a grand arm. He
Starting point is 00:12:26 kept started looking and he's a gesture a little
Starting point is 00:12:30 a little and he his and he got to the house
Starting point is 00:12:36 and the door one one once by the
Starting point is 00:12:39 door she kept looking on the front and
Starting point is 00:12:42 and out and the and the ojitos, they started
Starting point is 00:12:46 to endued of the water, Lachrimas. Who who made this, was Doa
Starting point is 00:12:51 Rosa, the she was the little his house. And he said,
Starting point is 00:12:56 Mijo, you're well? Emilio only she was he said with the
Starting point is 00:13:02 head that she. It's he's a little that's a little that's
Starting point is 00:13:09 this type of attitudes or this type of the kind of all the time
Starting point is 00:13:13 was a way and to go to be to be to be to go. Dona Rosa, no he wants to get to get to his father and
Starting point is 00:13:20 to tell us what had passed with him. They got to the hour's and this sirs. And this man
Starting point is 00:13:26 he told how he saw a see that the little to the one at first passed this.
Starting point is 00:13:33 The papa immediately said, look, that's the little you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:37 you know they're going to get to the school, yeah, you're going to terminate
Starting point is 00:13:41 the vacations and yeah to enter to the school, then that's that
Starting point is 00:13:44 he want to go to go to go to the school for
Starting point is 00:13:47 please no, no, no, he take that's importance
Starting point is 00:13:48 I'm I'm my he and he's he's ignored,
Starting point is 00:13:53 what really was going to enter at the school and
Starting point is 00:13:59 Emilio had changed. He was a different he he was
Starting point is 00:14:05 to go to go to and he had the custom to go
Starting point is 00:14:09 to and to go to and to Now, he used
Starting point is 00:14:13 at the rhythm of his brother Mario. He was playing in silence, no
Starting point is 00:14:17 he was to be and he used to hours watching television. Even
Starting point is 00:14:23 a sometimes in his room, being very little, he
Starting point is 00:14:26 was and I didn't go and there. There moments where
Starting point is 00:14:31 he he he was he is that is a desperation that the fact of asomarse because he'd like
Starting point is 00:14:48 his deduitos, his manitas that had started as a contraire, sentia and not even knew what was going what was going.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Incluso, there were moments where this said for his mother, both Mario, as Emilio
Starting point is 00:15:05 were in quarters different. And there were moments where the two amanes in a
Starting point is 00:15:10 same camera. this because Emilio had much and he was pasted the fourth of his
Starting point is 00:15:16 brother. Never said nothing. The rarer is that never he said he was what
Starting point is 00:15:21 he said. Solomente he was a change of attitude very repentino until
Starting point is 00:15:27 that a madugada passed something so his mom he's
Starting point is 00:15:33 because he said that the little was that he's part
Starting point is 00:15:39 I want to say emphasis. You know when a child you, you know to recognize a yant to. This yanko alarmed to
Starting point is 00:15:46 her mom. It was something very far of the habitual. She gets running to her court and she does a count that was Emilio
Starting point is 00:15:54 tirled in the piece, tapado with his cobiha grittando. She gets, he says, he's,
Starting point is 00:16:01 what's what he says, I'm immediately, abrasa his mom, he'll and he
Starting point is 00:16:07 He started to Yorra and he said they're they're to the house
Starting point is 00:16:13 they're to the house and his mom he's who's who
Starting point is 00:16:20 who's who you talk and he he does a
Starting point is 00:16:23 description of what he perceived some people completely black
Starting point is 00:16:30 with arms very long always they in the patio
Starting point is 00:16:34 but but now they're here, adentro of the house.
Starting point is 00:16:39 This obviously alerted to his father of his father of family in this
Starting point is 00:16:43 moment Carlos he's to be a inspection to look a person that he
Starting point is 00:16:50 entered that he had no the while while him and he
Starting point is 00:16:53 was he was and but the papa no he didn't
Starting point is 00:16:57 he didn't not no what the rare is that
Starting point is 00:17:02 the moment the family he got to presensier certain sombras but not
Starting point is 00:17:07 they took so much because they're in that point they were thinking that this
Starting point is 00:17:13 was a kind of of imagination for part of Emilio passed the time and they were
Starting point is 00:17:20 to get a therapy to the little himel they were in the therapy
Starting point is 00:17:24 because they did know that his he was being a present
Starting point is 00:17:29 a point to be to be a kinder remember we go the The teachers
Starting point is 00:17:34 they said is that he's the new that's the there's a problem in a house
Starting point is 00:17:38 that's that he's going to do a therapy for a very good RAPto.
Starting point is 00:17:45 We're to go to the 11 years. Emilio was in the primary yeah
Starting point is 00:17:50 was in the last the last the end of the point, Emilio was a little he was a
Starting point is 00:17:59 little bit in the room in the cell he said that these somras now
Starting point is 00:18:08 habitable one part of their but that they're not in the cell he had
Starting point is 00:18:13 he took to say to say to his parents yeah no I don't
Starting point is 00:18:18 hear and only so so so his papas
Starting point is 00:18:21 they they're to but he he told all the
Starting point is 00:18:26 real to a man to Mario that he had
Starting point is 00:18:28 he he said and he he said Emilio yes, I'll
Starting point is 00:18:34 see, but these are at the second plant. And is where he says his brother,
Starting point is 00:18:41 and why to me do they're not? Because I don't know and he he'll respond.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Because they they want to me. Not they want to you. But for favor,
Starting point is 00:18:52 not you don't be to say this what I'm saying. Because they're not to be
Starting point is 00:18:56 to be to be to say, for favor, call you, no don't say
Starting point is 00:19:00 nothing. One a one he he no said he said
Starting point is 00:19:06 he's he a woman he went his mom and his father and he
Starting point is 00:19:13 got them two solos his his brother not he was
Starting point is 00:19:17 he and like all they say well emil this
Starting point is 00:19:23 he said his his little let let's see what you
Starting point is 00:19:26 do you do let's I I this this night
Starting point is 00:19:29 that We'll go to do me, you and I, all the quarter of the right. No, it's nothing, because no is certain what you're seeing.
Starting point is 00:19:39 And not querying, convince him. Okay, we're going to go to be. So, they're preparing
Starting point is 00:19:47 for to do, and they're and at a little time he's aggered the sunno. No, it was so
Starting point is 00:19:53 time, you know, when this said, for the brother minor, for Mario,
Starting point is 00:20:00 to that never he never had never, we're to feel like
Starting point is 00:20:05 if the quarter would as the frio to descend to get to
Starting point is 00:20:09 get to immediately in the obscurity the camera so that
Starting point is 00:20:16 was that was a lot of the camera against the
Starting point is 00:20:19 part in that I'm I know I saw
Starting point is 00:20:23 that that Emilio was something great. Conform a manoid brazos large. And with one of his
Starting point is 00:20:31 brasos, assotable the camera, and with his other arm, me took to the pierna, and me he started. In that moment, Emilio, when he saw that his armadito was in
Starting point is 00:20:43 risk, grittow, let him pass. Betty. Prenden the luses, and all over. His papas were getting they're getting and
Starting point is 00:20:54 they're they're and they said, what's what's what's he's
Starting point is 00:20:59 he's he's he's he's what my thing he's he's
Starting point is 00:21:05 and the he said he said now I think I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:21:11 no he no he I'm he he said he said no
Starting point is 00:21:18 don't say no doesn't no he says the day The next
Starting point is 00:21:23 Dispired And he He said Mario to his brother He said He's
Starting point is 00:21:28 He's He's He's He's And in the Pyrna He's his
Starting point is 00:21:32 He's a mark of a man with a hand He's he
Starting point is 00:21:38 He gave the mark And he He only he He said
Starting point is 00:21:43 No don't say You don't Not not Papa
Starting point is 00:21:46 No not they're Not Those both dormian with
Starting point is 00:21:51 much MEO Mario he passed to to go to the cell
Starting point is 00:21:55 with his brother with his because he also he also he had seen
Starting point is 00:22:01 until an one occasion a man he passed the
Starting point is 00:22:05 worst standing the two dormido being approximately the
Starting point is 00:22:10 five the morning the house was the place
Starting point is 00:22:15 there there there had there there and His parents
Starting point is 00:22:19 go to the sara and the only that they're to be is see a
Starting point is 00:22:24 Emilio with a part of a part of the part of the was just was halling
Starting point is 00:22:33 but was the door of protection that was like a reja obviously
Starting point is 00:22:38 no could not but one part of his part of the
Starting point is 00:22:40 part of the part of the part he was taped completely grittando in
Starting point is 00:22:49 When his papas prenden the luses, they're to inspection what
Starting point is 00:22:53 was in they're not. But it was impressive how a
Starting point is 00:22:59 man had been being being a and the
Starting point is 00:23:02 door and they they were they they were
Starting point is 00:23:06 on the one of the time. No, they only
Starting point is 00:23:14 put more more protection in the house. This
Starting point is 00:23:18 story termina so. Mario, the brother, he told all the
Starting point is 00:23:25 happened and me showed the markas that this man he left
Starting point is 00:23:29 in the body. After of all the so my brother
Starting point is 00:23:34 Emilio, he was diagnosed with schizophrenia. I am
Starting point is 00:23:40 I am the brother major. And I only
Starting point is 00:23:45 say one one so that see, that was that was
Starting point is 00:23:50 hailed to my brother no is a thing of because I did with
Starting point is 00:23:56 my eyes. My brother no is a not a thing
Starting point is 00:24:01 clinical. It I don't to decision of my parents because the family
Starting point is 00:24:08 of my mom always has been involved with with things
Starting point is 00:24:12 of occultism. That the to his 12 years. And it's an history
Starting point is 00:24:23 envied by the brother. Who he took over all this being a part important of the
Starting point is 00:24:29 history because he was as a spectator of all. A testigo. A testigo of all.
Starting point is 00:24:36 What do you? Impresionant. Impresionante and aterrador at the time. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:24:44 What is is an grade that you have to get to get to get to get to say,
Starting point is 00:24:49 for saying, only if I'm sorry that I'm that I'm like I'm better. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Evite the hostigament of to start those, well, so, medically,
Starting point is 00:25:02 in this case, treatment, to a certain point, maybe psychiatric,
Starting point is 00:25:06 and a long, then the reality was the experience that both lived.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Exactly. So, that's right. So, is. Uy, you have some some
Starting point is 00:25:17 very good. Yes, so, you see, Paco, this history, the
Starting point is 00:25:22 really that's impressive. A girl of name is Isabel. Chabelita. Chabelita.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Chabelita. This little, fiftate, was very, very apegated to her
Starting point is 00:25:33 abel paterna. Between ambas was made a very a very very
Starting point is 00:25:40 a very so so much that from the beginning for that reason
Starting point is 00:25:45 the papas decided put her the same name than the mother. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Isabel? Yes. And, well, they had something something in common.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Fidate, they had a, a very a strong that they had. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:59 But for the side of the abel maternal, well, the relation to a
Starting point is 00:26:05 certain good, but not so so so much with her abuela, Isabel.
Starting point is 00:26:14 But, from he had much a price to also to get a to get her to get her.
Starting point is 00:26:20 But always there a favorite. And in this case, both abuelas were all
Starting point is 00:26:25 had been a very good relation. To the little, Isabelle was to
Starting point is 00:26:32 go to the house of her wife. Yeah. Of her his abelita like of carino
Starting point is 00:26:35 he said. And this was because both had also also a good
Starting point is 00:26:41 very, very eradicated to the animals. Okay. And also to the
Starting point is 00:26:47 plantas, what is the vegetation in an ornament, in a in a garden.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Yeah, both they were they're in the same good. So,
Starting point is 00:26:57 that that made that this vincal more more strach. Now,
Starting point is 00:27:02 in the house of the Abelita in Chabelita, like he said
Starting point is 00:27:06 of cari, there had and some canaries, also, plus, of the
Starting point is 00:27:12 garden vast and extensive there the house. The character of the little point was charismatic. She was
Starting point is 00:27:19 like, very, very evaddera, no, for say it for that form. This,
Starting point is 00:27:27 then it made it to have a facility to connect with the amigito in the school.
Starting point is 00:27:32 That's, for her not to be a problem, not to make a amistades. See,
Starting point is 00:27:37 what, standing in the school, in that same school primary, where she assisted, also assistian some vicinitos of her mother, some children there that then were going to go to the house of the, of the
Starting point is 00:27:50 senior. They also also assisted to classes with with Isabel, and she had a lot of the vincal of the vinclair that had with
Starting point is 00:28:02 them. Now, every end of the year to be able to be her oldita, Chabelita. She has to wait, I'm going to be the
Starting point is 00:28:09 Saturday to be to be there to be to live with and enjoy to do you and enjoy
Starting point is 00:28:14 to do you. But about Paco, Ficate something when the
Starting point is 00:28:22 when the little was yeah to visit with her and he
Starting point is 00:28:26 took presential the visit of a matrimonio with his
Starting point is 00:28:31 his also also also also also also also
Starting point is 00:28:36 with her, with her his and then shebelita, because is a
Starting point is 00:28:41 vincal to get a little of that's she. She. She had a year of
Starting point is 00:28:45 every time to play with the time. And, well, something is that
Starting point is 00:28:50 also came other people to visit the people people
Starting point is 00:28:55 and the little simply and simply and simply and simply and
Starting point is 00:29:00 they were and they were and they they were with much with
Starting point is 00:29:03 her with her abuelita. This occurred every end of a week. And not fall you.
Starting point is 00:29:08 It was very curious. So, so it was a that in some moment in a
Starting point is 00:29:15 person that were to visit to the little, he was a child,
Starting point is 00:29:21 he was a child, and he was a other little
Starting point is 00:29:25 that was also with his papas to the house of the house of
Starting point is 00:29:29 Isabelle. Pass a rato a very jugs, they'd and a
Starting point is 00:29:35 sometimes get them other other other children to get to work. Well,
Starting point is 00:29:40 it was a party of a party. So, so they did you do that a school.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And so, yeah, so, so. And well, it result that some
Starting point is 00:29:48 the morning, the wela accustomed to get to get a market. And
Starting point is 00:29:53 he's a little to the little he was, and while was there was
Starting point is 00:29:58 there was there some of the the deweights of of the places of the venting
Starting point is 00:30:03 and the fruit, of the food, and everything that's all the thing was
Starting point is 00:30:07 using, the little was in a place and then he called a
Starting point is 00:30:11 attention a place a place where was a place
Starting point is 00:30:14 where was the man was looking to the
Starting point is 00:30:20 eyes with a mind with a point the
Starting point is 00:30:24 the little the little he to acercarsely to the but
Starting point is 00:30:29 you know something that he impidio to get to him she seemed
Starting point is 00:30:34 incoomod he went to get a certain fear because the
Starting point is 00:30:39 mind the man was a little was like was
Starting point is 00:30:44 fun and to make a good and be
Starting point is 00:30:47 a charismatic and and and that very jovial
Starting point is 00:30:51 because I want to talk to but the
Starting point is 00:30:54 but the man was there even with a semblance frio. The little consterned
Starting point is 00:31:02 to get a old when she he calls to get to get to get to the house and the
Starting point is 00:31:08 little and the little what had succeeded with that she said the mother the girl
Starting point is 00:31:13 I'm to be to record something every every every is different
Starting point is 00:31:19 so we don't we can we can't just to the person for
Starting point is 00:31:24 your appearance The girl He said, no Abolita, no No, no is for what he's
Starting point is 00:31:31 apparent, but it's something more like for her form of her attitude, basically for
Starting point is 00:31:38 your behavior. And so his emphasis the name. The abelita
Starting point is 00:31:42 was simply to say to say to do it. Resulted that the mother, Isabel,
Starting point is 00:31:51 has to have to a one of his kids, that lived in other other
Starting point is 00:31:56 place. The little when I'm going to be to be her not a
Starting point is 00:31:59 little she did know that I'm going to be able to do the
Starting point is 00:32:05 time with her. Almost two two months was the
Starting point is 00:32:08 woman and the little Isabelle then she no she's
Starting point is 00:32:14 another more to go to her well, well, but it although the dynamic
Starting point is 00:32:20 with the other abel was a different distinct, Paco, result that the little bit
Starting point is 00:32:25 more than to try to pass her with her other mother. To try to go to go
Starting point is 00:32:32 to go and the little, the little Isabelle, just standing in the house of
Starting point is 00:32:37 her again, for a child, Paulina, well the she's
Starting point is 00:32:43 being watching television so he's aburried and decided
Starting point is 00:32:47 to get to the patio so to be to the with the
Starting point is 00:32:51 plant plant, the flowers and there. But in this patio, curiously, Paco, was around by an enormous circle. And after the circle, some meters,
Starting point is 00:33:03 very close, so, very, of the circle, okay? Passed the bays of the train. Okay. So, the wela was about to that not were to pass the train,
Starting point is 00:33:15 because the little the little, the little, the The mother, she isom for the window
Starting point is 00:33:21 and see that the little was talking with someone. So, he was
Starting point is 00:33:27 talking. The she was a soma, immediately she percate that the train
Starting point is 00:33:34 was going and he did a mind that the little to the car to try to
Starting point is 00:33:42 try to try to the door to the mother in this
Starting point is 00:33:45 moment desperated she was out of the house, very appresurated, gets to where his nieta and immediately
Starting point is 00:33:54 the take of the arm and the halapaco, in a manner abrupt. The girl in that moment was disconcerted
Starting point is 00:34:01 no, no, no, no, no, I didn't know because his
Starting point is 00:34:03 abelabed to that form, just in that moment, he was passing the train. The
Starting point is 00:34:10 little was maybe it was because the woman sentio the thing was the train was very
Starting point is 00:34:16 close to the the fear that the that the need to suffer a accident but not.
Starting point is 00:34:22 No it was for that. Resulta that the wuela the
Starting point is 00:34:27 to the house saying what you are doing there? She called he
Starting point is 00:34:34 called he called very much the attention and one once
Starting point is 00:34:38 that they're in the house in the house the she
Starting point is 00:34:42 put the passor to even even Like if teemier something.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Subgeted to her nietta of the arm. He was literally, arastrantly,
Starting point is 00:34:55 and then the entire of the house. And, was he was a woman,
Starting point is 00:35:00 literally. In that moment, the little didn't why the reaction
Starting point is 00:35:05 of her that way. Gave to even with she to say, oh,
Starting point is 00:35:10 is that my abelita isabel not me so like you, he reclamed literally
Starting point is 00:35:15 Even He said He said his mother No we can just to
Starting point is 00:35:21 the person for your appearance and in this moment the while when when
Starting point is 00:35:25 when when she said that's a certain point surprised by that
Starting point is 00:35:30 that expression of the the new and and he's
Starting point is 00:35:34 to take the telephone and he to make the the
Starting point is 00:35:38 mother and come back for this need immediately I
Starting point is 00:35:42 need that the she no I could understand because
Starting point is 00:35:46 her abuela was so that's a certain point, hysterical
Starting point is 00:35:51 at the time and enochated and they're they're the
Starting point is 00:35:56 parents the the little the she saying and
Starting point is 00:36:01 saying because and the woman he said she again
Starting point is 00:36:05 so reganing she obviously she she sent you feel
Starting point is 00:36:09 she for a moment your abuela, reagan you, and saying to care, to, love you and the time, and enjoy after the company, between
Starting point is 00:36:17 commies. Well, resulta that they get in the papas, they're in an room with the mother, and they're going to
Starting point is 00:36:27 discuss. The little can't ask to hear, how the wuela, he'd to get to
Starting point is 00:36:32 them to the last the last that they was, alhens to that that brouha
Starting point is 00:36:39 because it was to arastrar to the infirno. What? So,
Starting point is 00:36:46 like. So, like. Evite that's with her. Obviously, the
Starting point is 00:36:53 wuela was referring to the abelita Chabelita. Sure, the mother
Starting point is 00:36:58 that's, that's the mother consentida. Well, well, Doa
Starting point is 00:37:03 Isabel regress of his life, Paco. But, but
Starting point is 00:37:06 the papas and the situation no They no, they didn't, that the Wela Chabellita vied to her nita.
Starting point is 00:37:14 See? He prohibited practically to have contact with her. Passed a good time,
Starting point is 00:37:20 I think years. The little bit more. The mother, she said to his nietta,
Starting point is 00:37:27 the Bula Chabelita was sincere with her. Considered that it was time of
Starting point is 00:37:33 that the little was a fact. A word that had been doing something
Starting point is 00:37:38 special in your life, Paco. He confessed to his nieta that she had the same don
Starting point is 00:37:46 of her. The don don of the mediumity. Okay. Also, he confessed Paco
Starting point is 00:37:52 that those children and those people that were to visit to his house and with
Starting point is 00:37:57 the she had there in the hardin no man they were
Starting point is 00:38:03 spirits of the people and the people The boy
Starting point is 00:38:09 that's there in the market I said in that that that was
Starting point is 00:38:13 in an accident and he killed in an incendio he was he came
Starting point is 00:38:23 out of in a house when this is incendio now the now the
Starting point is 00:38:30 house to your abel pegated there there to pass the train
Starting point is 00:38:35 with the with the with you platicabas They were Arrottos for the train
Starting point is 00:38:40 Muriel there Impresionate Poco Paco because this don of Mediomid of Isabel
Starting point is 00:38:48 he has permitted to the time to continue having those visions to have
Starting point is 00:38:55 contact with those souls with those spirits but she decided not
Starting point is 00:39:00 not dedica to the medium yet of as a mother
Starting point is 00:39:06 as his mother. She no he's not cargare with that responsibility.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Here me sound much that phrase no, of the film, of the
Starting point is 00:39:16 Tio Vend saying to Peter Parker, all power conge a
Starting point is 00:39:20 great a great responsibility. Well, the abel yeah not is
Starting point is 00:39:24 between the people. He died. Long Vandy Twisler's
Starting point is 00:39:30 candy keeps the fun going. Keep the the F I'm going.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Twizzlers, keep the fun going. Wow. What impressive. I think it was clear-simo the don of the little bit. Because I saw what his abuela and basically. And the abuela paternal,
Starting point is 00:40:01 I imagine. I know. It was. It was all of that they'd for that they'd go to the supposed
Starting point is 00:40:09 a bruja mala. So, so is. That's correct. That's that's great, manches.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Interacy that's that all the time was in contact in contact. That's
Starting point is 00:40:19 with people. With with spirits. Wow. I'm that. That's only she
Starting point is 00:40:23 only she could be. Exactly. And so his and her and her
Starting point is 00:40:27 had the same the same the That impressive. It's impact. I don't expect. I don't ever
Starting point is 00:40:36 to surprise to surprise. Yeah, incredibly. There is a thing that I like much of the
Starting point is 00:40:44 the relato's that are real. And is when the manifestation is never not only
Starting point is 00:40:53 for the who is living, but for more members of the family. Yes. So,
Starting point is 00:41:00 We're that the phenomenon paranormal not is a question of creencers. No,
Starting point is 00:41:04 for suppose. It's a question of you see and you do you do you
Starting point is 00:41:08 do you do you do this is the history of Susanna Susana Susanna us
Starting point is 00:41:16 that when was a very little six years she had she took an
Starting point is 00:41:22 friend imaginary she she me said that for her
Starting point is 00:41:26 and for her her mother of 15 years was it's a
Starting point is 00:41:31 normally normal that they were they were in all the parts of
Starting point is 00:41:36 the house all the time and me confess today he is
Starting point is 00:41:40 adult Paco for them for them to me to make
Starting point is 00:41:47 the idea today with all what I see me
Starting point is 00:41:51 would I would be a fear but my
Starting point is 00:41:55 family my parents and my brother and my mother, and they're accustomed
Starting point is 00:42:00 those. The fact is I was that I was a little that all the time
Starting point is 00:42:06 was all. Not was doing people, not I would be to be
Starting point is 00:42:13 more children. I always was always I'm in the kind of the
Starting point is 00:42:21 teachers are my parents is that his is that is that colorio
Starting point is 00:42:25 that is he like much coloria, but always was always
Starting point is 00:42:28 he's a little. And but he's talking, he's with her with her
Starting point is 00:42:31 with a little. But his parents said, Maesta, no's so I
Starting point is 00:42:38 don't see my my wife and he has a much and he doesn't
Starting point is 00:42:43 do you don't know, so I'm not a okay, all is all right. So,
Starting point is 00:42:48 so for all was super common the fact that she was that she
Starting point is 00:42:52 was talking only us confiesa that he had a man imaginary
Starting point is 00:43:00 with the whole the time he was that he was in his house
Starting point is 00:43:04 he was a school a young of the age that that
Starting point is 00:43:09 really was very very very appreciated for she
Starting point is 00:43:12 she she she he he he gave much
Starting point is 00:43:16 and he he said and he said a he
Starting point is 00:43:21 he he he I hadrava, me servie a cereal, me I was to sit, to be caricatures.
Starting point is 00:43:32 And I saw when he had, he was in the other extreme of the sillon, he was, and I was
Starting point is 00:43:39 the control, and I was going to start again. I got I the control and he'd and he'd and he'd
Starting point is 00:43:47 and he'd be in other quarter and said, Chamaa, let's be to turn to pay the
Starting point is 00:43:51 tele, you're going to be to turnponel. Yes. No They didn't know what was
Starting point is 00:43:55 going. And, and then there were moments where, I said, I'm in my
Starting point is 00:44:00 cell, a mesita where had, of those books that are in black and
Starting point is 00:44:04 that's to color, I mean, I'm many of the mucos animos, and he
Starting point is 00:44:11 he'd he'd be to get us. And I saw it was he was he was he
Starting point is 00:44:16 was all all in the piece. It was he was he was he was I'm
Starting point is 00:44:22 doing, and I'm very normal because yeah there was this amistat and this appreciate.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Until that one day passed something a little different. She said that that
Starting point is 00:44:37 day she had no had no I don't want to play absolutely for
Starting point is 00:44:40 nothing. And he gave to this friend, and he said, we're
Starting point is 00:44:44 going. He said, no, no, I don't I don't want to we're
Starting point is 00:44:48 going to I'm that I don't I don't I'm I'm and he
Starting point is 00:44:53 molest commenced to move his utiles he was the cell
Starting point is 00:44:57 had his his machine he's a with his
Starting point is 00:45:01 books his his chardons p pas pass pass
Starting point is 00:45:03 to all all all all colors no they
Starting point is 00:45:09 not they went to be passing his her and
Starting point is 00:45:14 she he presenio how only just without the
Starting point is 00:45:20 books that were They were puttos, pas, pass, they'd be to go and venters. Obviously,
Starting point is 00:45:27 she, when see this, pegged the grito, he says, me halla from the second
Starting point is 00:45:32 planda, corriending with my mom and with my father. And he said,
Starting point is 00:45:37 and he was my parents, well, they're but my mother's kept with
Starting point is 00:45:44 a spinita, what was that? How it provoked? I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:45:47 I'm I'm my friend. Simply that's anojado because I don't want to
Starting point is 00:45:53 play. Wow. A be, how a one, a man of 15 and 16 years
Starting point is 00:45:59 will understand that's something? Of course. And say, what do me you're talking?
Starting point is 00:46:05 No, no, no you're all the time. Only, that's all right to talk to be it.
Starting point is 00:46:09 It's that's not normal. No is normal. What you see, no exist,
Starting point is 00:46:15 no is real. See, is real. He is very real. And I do want much. But simply
Starting point is 00:46:23 that day no I don't want to play. So, a time, your
Starting point is 00:46:29 mother was a little unquietta. So, sit in the two to see the television.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Prenn the television and he gets to the Cera. And he paga
Starting point is 00:46:40 the control was down of them. He said my her manna, agar
Starting point is 00:46:48 the control and he starts to start when I'm when I'm when I'm when I
Starting point is 00:46:54 do you do you do you do you no is the control is my friend and
Starting point is 00:47:01 and she moleste and he says yeah I said that he he no
Starting point is 00:47:06 exists for favor forget to him and she he said
Starting point is 00:47:12 I look to to be the tell the he was apada. It was the
Starting point is 00:47:18 reflex of the spejo black. In that moment, she went to see to see the
Starting point is 00:47:22 television, the screen and he looked to be the silhouette of a
Starting point is 00:47:29 little of the two. It was I got for the first time.
Starting point is 00:47:37 She in that moment and she he said me agar of the arm and I
Starting point is 00:47:42 know I'm I'm I'd like to grittar and to cry
Starting point is 00:47:46 and to start going to the desperation and the fear desperation to full
Starting point is 00:47:51 and only he said and he said largates of here you don't pertenes
Starting point is 00:47:57 here and be here and he he began to cry to the
Starting point is 00:48:01 man and they were getting to the parents and they can
Starting point is 00:48:05 find of all the alborot and she he said mom
Starting point is 00:48:08 papa something something something my My brother, no is there something in the
Starting point is 00:48:15 house, there's a little I'm in the picture of the television. The reflection. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:20 they've been two times. First, I'm doing little books. Now I'm in the
Starting point is 00:48:24 reflection. What's going? The papa started to walk. No, he said
Starting point is 00:48:30 nothing. He's put in front of the television and he spoke to the air.
Starting point is 00:48:38 In this moment, I'm that you retires to my house and
Starting point is 00:48:43 you and you retires and you don't I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:48:47 I'm you know I'm that you I'm to do you
Starting point is 00:48:51 do you do you all all all all all
Starting point is 00:48:55 all spant because they were that this man
Starting point is 00:49:01 that he was talking to the entity a
Starting point is 00:49:06 part of this moment this chick us says, the
Starting point is 00:49:11 really, me distrisedy much, because he not was a bad. Of the
Starting point is 00:49:17 actually, when his father was talking to he said, no, Papa, no, he no,
Starting point is 00:49:20 he no, he no, he no, he no he was he, and he said, you say,
Starting point is 00:49:25 you calliate. And, and the really, I'm really, and my heart
Starting point is 00:49:31 and my heartening, because there had points of the house where I saw,
Starting point is 00:49:36 to the patio and was there the escalar, and he was there, and he was there, and he was there. And, a part of that my father said that, he said to be away, and
Starting point is 00:49:49 yeah no, he was. Of a repent, I was walking, and it was, and it was a part of the house, but it was not, he had to be for me, and it was my friend. I was, I wanted
Starting point is 00:50:02 much. Poc-a-pook, so, a little, so that one time, it was for ultimate time in a
Starting point is 00:50:10 dream. In my dream we're in the patio of the house where there some
Starting point is 00:50:16 columpios my papa me made a with a arm of a arm of a
Starting point is 00:50:21 tree and he me and I messia and we were we're just
Starting point is 00:50:27 and there there was a moment where me he said I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:50:33 I'm to I'm can't keep here with you
Starting point is 00:50:37 and she he said why you you're going to I'm going to I don't to be and she
Starting point is 00:50:47 she's to tell me with you get me with you get me with you I'm
Starting point is 00:50:54 I can't I don't it's your time it and enjoy you do you
Starting point is 00:51:01 do you do you I'm I'm I'm I'm to give in the
Starting point is 00:51:04 I And she wasperted that dream yorando because had been a experience
Starting point is 00:51:12 so vivid so real and real and that despid a person that was a little
Starting point is 00:51:19 he did you dole much he passed the time passed those months yeah
Starting point is 00:51:24 no she was not of this spirit of this entity that we
Starting point is 00:51:28 think we were an entity malignant in one occasion he
Starting point is 00:51:35 He goes with her her brother to visit to his abuelita like every end of
Starting point is 00:51:40 a week but in that occasion his abelita was doing a limpeas
Starting point is 00:51:44 a house back saying things very and and
Starting point is 00:51:49 and and he made a album of photos
Starting point is 00:51:52 they started to open and they started to
Starting point is 00:51:56 go and after after there a photograph a
Starting point is 00:52:04 very of his father, of his father. When
Starting point is 00:52:13 she saw the photo, he called much the attention. It
Starting point is 00:52:18 was a same to the child that had
Starting point is 00:52:23 a man, but his father not was not
Starting point is 00:52:25 he but he had a he his his
Starting point is 00:52:30 his his heart more he is that this
Starting point is 00:52:34 a little, who is my father, is my father, is the child with the she was
Starting point is 00:52:43 a little in this moment. No, I knew what I felt you much
Starting point is 00:52:48 a and I went to see to her woman who she
Starting point is 00:52:53 heard and she did know that her was she put
Starting point is 00:52:59 the eyes yorosos. And it was where she he said before you and I
Starting point is 00:53:06 we were we were a manit before that you and you and we were and a day
Starting point is 00:53:13 for accident mom to get to and he trying and he resbala and
Starting point is 00:53:21 he came for the escalaras and our brother no he was perdi
Starting point is 00:53:27 the life he got And she And she'll terminate And I'm saying Now I'm
Starting point is 00:53:34 Why I'm To get to Amar Tant Not he loved Like a man He gave to Amar Like my
Starting point is 00:53:44 My brother Like the Like the He was For that For that He was That's his
Starting point is 00:53:50 He was his brother He was your man Impresionate That's It's very strong because the stories you're going
Starting point is 00:54:00 going for a way and you're going connecting to a reality that much is cruel
Starting point is 00:54:08 other times are really they're really they generate a type of sentiment that's
Starting point is 00:54:15 quite strange no so am I so is there's there there are
Starting point is 00:54:18 people that when they're there can't disprend or either
Starting point is 00:54:22 or involuntary or involuntary of this presence, of this energy or of this
Starting point is 00:54:27 spirit, as a kind of a kind of even in the cases of that I've talked,
Starting point is 00:54:35 that's the vacuum, see in the vacue, they're in that perid in that fact.
Starting point is 00:54:39 So, then there have to get that that to be able to be able to be able to
Starting point is 00:54:44 get a kind of the emotion and that the person could continue their life.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Resetting and so accepting that, that part, the reality that story me
Starting point is 00:54:54 commovio much because I said, if we're really in the feet of the Lent or of the spirit, that no
Starting point is 00:55:03 had obviously malays, like other cases, that are, that are not, and aggressive. Aggressive? The L.
Starting point is 00:55:10 L.L. simply was to pass time with... Juga? Divertire. It's that was that was being a
Starting point is 00:55:15 kid. Yes, to pass time with her man. That's. Who was the only that
Starting point is 00:55:20 was the only that could be. Impres. And as brothers were men and they'd
Starting point is 00:55:23 belea they're so molestable that what what I'm very
Starting point is 00:55:27 very very very I'm I'm I'm really really
Starting point is 00:55:32 related too this about this story about of
Starting point is 00:55:38 Irma who in his first months of so
Starting point is 00:55:42 all you know the illusion of the of
Starting point is 00:55:46 being my standing embarrassed Yes Okay Very very
Starting point is 00:55:54 very very in his Circul Yeah of yeah because
Starting point is 00:56:00 for her was something very special very particular until a certain point
Starting point is 00:56:05 yeah a despite that she saw certain movements and
Starting point is 00:56:10 I heard certain and some yeah she after
Starting point is 00:56:15 a certain point yeah she was not I'm didn't
Starting point is 00:56:19 I'm I'm she had accustomed to these manifestations. Well, the curious
Starting point is 00:56:26 of this is that at the same time was coinciding with the period of the period of
Starting point is 00:56:32 his baby. So, with the lapse of his and he made much the attention
Starting point is 00:56:38 because this not occurred before. So, so, it was just in the
Starting point is 00:56:43 lapse of the endbarazes. It was a normal. It was something was out of the
Starting point is 00:56:47 common. Yes. Well, Irma and his Sposo, both, not
Starting point is 00:56:53 adeptos to the religion that they'd but they're in a other way, both
Starting point is 00:57:01 they were in common the fact of, then to have a certain a certain
Starting point is 00:57:05 a certain about the thing spirit about the thing of
Starting point is 00:57:13 the other dimensions and for them for them was like like a problem
Starting point is 00:57:17 as well when when Irma does Luce He put for name
Starting point is 00:57:21 to the baby Tanya. Nace the little and they're going
Starting point is 00:57:26 to do some some phenomena in the house certainly one
Starting point is 00:57:31 one his husband to name Andres he is
Starting point is 00:57:35 despirt in the madrug he he and he
Starting point is 00:57:41 he he he he and one of the mur
Starting point is 00:57:45 the room the silueta of a is dark. He simply
Starting point is 00:57:50 and simply and he said no sent him he muto he, he considered as something normal
Starting point is 00:57:57 for him he. He did the middle and he regress to the abetation and he
Starting point is 00:58:02 went to get to sleep to no. At the other day that
Starting point is 00:58:06 they then, he he's he's he he's not he
Starting point is 00:58:12 didn't he's not so she's she had seen that
Starting point is 00:58:17 That's the same silhouette, that same form, as a little as a little how she has described his husband. Pase the
Starting point is 00:58:23 time, the little, the little, and Tanya, and Tanya, was started to be a
Starting point is 00:58:29 new rissuena, very, really, so, very juggetona, including, too, too, too,
Starting point is 00:58:35 too, even, he got to for the people, that obviously had been relation with
Starting point is 00:58:40 the family, well, was that was a girl, a while could easily carry, no,
Starting point is 00:58:46 not, It was of those that in a lot of she exaltaba and no I'm not she was
Starting point is 00:58:51 she'd she'd be able to I'm know how we're saying in the first six months
Starting point is 00:58:56 Paco Tanya Tanya she kept looking fichamently to a part of the house
Starting point is 00:59:01 okay and she was looking literally to a only point observable with much
Starting point is 00:59:08 detenimento the little he stirable the and then she was she was
Starting point is 00:59:14 He started to reir, like if if he was like to be with someone. With someone more.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Uh-huh. Well, so, so it consider that is something common between the
Starting point is 00:59:23 young of this age, obviously, no? Resulta and A. Andres, his
Starting point is 00:59:28 papas, they had a sobrina. Yeah. The little was called
Starting point is 00:59:31 Clau. She was only two years more than the other than his okay.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Practically the both, was, were like hermanitas, for the vinkul that there, for the relation that there. And, since
Starting point is 00:59:45 very little, Paco, both were very well. Jugged, convivian, and the other. From, Clau, he'd
Starting point is 00:59:54 much to his sobrina minor, that was when Tanne began to give his first steps,
Starting point is 01:00:02 she'd that she'd keep a Paco with the habit of his attention to that same point
Starting point is 01:00:09 of the house. Okay. To see that Miser. Observeable, he was a there, and
Starting point is 01:00:14 he was a smile. Yeah. It was very expressive at a hour of to read us. Now,
Starting point is 01:00:21 when she began to balbucees his first phrases, his first words, he said,
Starting point is 01:00:26 I'm trying to, Ito, and signaled to that the place. The mom at a
Starting point is 01:00:34 question of this, he did count that he was to do a little, to the
Starting point is 01:00:38 father. Because so he said of carino. Mito. More he called the attention because that he was that he did
Starting point is 01:00:45 directly to the wall. And the abel was still still was in life. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 01:00:52 that's a that the she didn't he, he strained over a way. Resulta that in
Starting point is 01:00:57 one occasion, one once standing she with her with her again, again
Starting point is 01:01:02 to say but now to another to other other place. Yeah no
Starting point is 01:01:06 was in that abitation in that paris or now. Now it was
Starting point is 01:01:09 to the house and he he said my it my it and he
Starting point is 01:01:14 he was to express the little the father of Irma
Starting point is 01:01:18 had had had had five years so she
Starting point is 01:01:23 she she she not not because the she
Starting point is 01:01:26 didn't he didn't he didn't he had seen
Starting point is 01:01:31 not more in a photograph in a occasion
Starting point is 01:01:33 only obviously her mom, well, she were his
Starting point is 01:01:39 eyes of the eyes, obviously he, he alberged the
Starting point is 01:01:43 sentiment. Well, resulta that when he was his husband, Andres
Starting point is 01:01:49 of the job, she she was she he talked of the thing,
Starting point is 01:01:53 and that's giving the formenores and the and the
Starting point is 01:01:57 surprise that she had had done. Result that this
Starting point is 01:02:01 was a kind kind point, because this, Paco, was he had done in the context, in the lapse, of the embarazzo. It was a certain point.
Starting point is 01:02:17 But, over all the reactions that had the child, every time that I said, I'm looking at any part of the house.
Starting point is 01:02:25 They got to think that was it was related to maybe a certain fact that the child had
Starting point is 01:02:33 developed. Some type of perhaps, obviously. That, for supposed, then she, or she,
Starting point is 01:02:41 not her mom, or her and her father had. No. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:02:45 The relation between the prima, Clough, and Tanya, was they were very,
Starting point is 01:02:53 very very alliated, ambas. They were had travesuras, they'd they'd,
Starting point is 01:03:00 they'd, always were together for the regular. And, obvious, because the serkenia
Starting point is 01:03:06 of the house where lived a Klau, was it was practically very short. And this this was it was
Starting point is 01:03:12 to make a time to have the opportunity to be both. Well, yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:17 when the little, when Tanya grew, when she had four years, more or
Starting point is 01:03:21 less, he said to his mom and he he said, yeah, so, in a
Starting point is 01:03:27 way directa and very sure, that in the house a other hit a to the
Starting point is 01:03:34 fallen. This, for supposed, as I said, she had been
Starting point is 01:03:41 in photographs and she was that every time that he I'm me be, me
Starting point is 01:03:46 I'm he. Yeah, he said so that's her mom. Tanya
Starting point is 01:03:51 and Klau continued their life as a little and the curious is that
Starting point is 01:03:58 they had to beinars Puck. They used an
Starting point is 01:04:01 coleta, a chongito and And then, between the forsegeo and all, it was about, no,
Starting point is 01:04:08 and that was caused to both, but a certain sensation of diversion, no? It was very,
Starting point is 01:04:14 very, uh, amen to do. Yeah, it was a custom, practically, it was like,
Starting point is 01:04:18 it was a way, so it, well, it's, so it's, that in that occasion,
Starting point is 01:04:24 apart to do a part of to do a new, like a other thing, a little to do,
Starting point is 01:04:32 a few And it's that Clau commenced to get to be a rare in a rare
Starting point is 01:04:38 infermeda because the family for the side of his parents were very
Starting point is 01:04:43 preoccupied because the and simply and simply and no mermava
Starting point is 01:04:50 yeah umpeorable and this was he had preoccupied to all even
Starting point is 01:04:56 also too and then to his papas obviously At the time,
Starting point is 01:05:03 it was inpeorando Clau at the point yeah to be very very
Starting point is 01:05:09 grave. His health was mermando very rapidly was
Starting point is 01:05:14 something was a the moment how there was certain flashes
Starting point is 01:05:20 of the lightas of that was that the family
Starting point is 01:05:23 ah the respiro no and and so and
Starting point is 01:05:27 the papas of Tanya were worried. Apart of the health, the vincal of the relationship that
Starting point is 01:05:32 they had generated on both. And here here comes the part that's the part
Starting point is 01:05:38 that's really to the parents of Tanya that in a certain occasion he said
Starting point is 01:05:42 he said, I've to see Aito another again in the fourth
Starting point is 01:05:49 of Klau. Tristement happened what had to pass. Clau falle
Starting point is 01:05:59 he's. Okay. Clau Mweer. Pyrde the life at very
Starting point is 01:06:05 a very time. He had a life for a man,
Starting point is 01:06:09 think it. Yeah. It was also and obviously he was of the company
Starting point is 01:06:16 of his prima. Well, all in the family, very Tristes, yorando
Starting point is 01:06:22 the peridid, desolados, of some manner derotados, not?
Starting point is 01:06:27 Because they've made after the maximum effort because she
Starting point is 01:06:30 would be well. Commens those preparations for the belorio, for the
Starting point is 01:06:36 funeral and the family of all obviously of all the and then
Starting point is 01:06:41 there were all all around all all obviously yeah the
Starting point is 01:06:47 ferethro there in the cell of the car to start
Starting point is 01:06:50 with all the protocol to Tanya they they
Starting point is 01:06:55 And they costed to sleep. Well, yeah they're in the process
Starting point is 01:07:01 during yeah altas hours of the night, madrugada. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:08 And Tanya is and thenia immediately he's to the cell
Starting point is 01:07:14 and he express a Klau yes, he said the name of the young
Starting point is 01:07:24 of the her falleceida. Clau wants to me, extend the arms, and he
Starting point is 01:07:29 goes to Fere Tropaco. His mom, in that moment, was was talking
Starting point is 01:07:34 with some people there, and people, and get to do what
Starting point is 01:07:39 was going, and intercepta the and he and he and he
Starting point is 01:07:44 and he and he's to be another other other no, no,
Starting point is 01:07:47 no, let me, let me, Clao me is saying, he's saying,
Starting point is 01:07:52 desperated. Yes, the woman gave to think that was she was in
Starting point is 01:08:00 shock or or something but not she with her spontaneity what she was to
Starting point is 01:08:05 play with because she was she was she was she was when her mom
Starting point is 01:08:11 yeah when her to get to get to the only that he said Paco
Starting point is 01:08:17 my my this is this not this is a moment for you
Starting point is 01:08:20 Jueges, thinking that the little bit of the little not having idea of the magnitude of
Starting point is 01:08:27 what was going to the moment, nor of what represented that ferectro there in the house.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Well, so it's that the other day it came the moment to do do the
Starting point is 01:08:38 process of the entierro. The majority of the family accompanied to the parents
Starting point is 01:08:45 of the father of Clout. Yes. And they're all to the
Starting point is 01:08:48 Panteon. When When when they're Andres and her esposa with her daughter Tanya
Starting point is 01:08:54 he was a one side of them on the door just of the
Starting point is 01:08:59 panteon the the little her and he said he said so
Starting point is 01:09:07 very desperated that he not I wanted to until a certain
Starting point is 01:09:11 point angustia I didn't get and he's he's
Starting point is 01:09:15 why why you know why don't want you want you don't you
Starting point is 01:09:18 he says the is that Clau is that innojada with me Papa and there
Starting point is 01:09:26 there are some there that they don't want that I enter
Starting point is 01:09:31 the the father he gets so that he said
Starting point is 01:09:38 the she said they can be and they don't
Starting point is 01:09:42 see there no only the only the the
Starting point is 01:09:47 And, well, just said the senior, look at the little, get to the little, I think
Starting point is 01:09:52 no is convenient that she's here. Get at the mehors. The husband
Starting point is 01:09:58 he has a case, he has a little the time of the hand, and they're
Starting point is 01:10:03 the middle and they can't in direction contrary. So his wife enter
Starting point is 01:10:10 to the door of the panteon but in that's detient and I'd
Starting point is 01:10:16 to see to your husband and the little that went and the
Starting point is 01:10:21 moment Paco the she's surprised at how the
Starting point is 01:10:27 coleta the chongo of her and it's dispreend she came
Starting point is 01:10:33 like when I just like just like when
Starting point is 01:10:38 I'm with her prima clown wow tremendous She kept impressioned. No,
Starting point is 01:10:47 I'd credit, no could believe what they were looking at his eyes. Impresionate. That's
Starting point is 01:10:54 the part of the, of the stories that, that apart to surprise, you're to understand
Starting point is 01:11:01 how it's how it's there. There's a story? Termina the story. Wow.
Starting point is 01:11:06 There, there, that's there, literally. I think it was, a
Starting point is 01:11:14 certain things. And and over all when she thought that the attitude
Starting point is 01:11:18 of her was for yeah, for mere going to to play. Maybe I don't
Starting point is 01:11:23 comprehend the sense of the murder. For sure, for the age.
Starting point is 01:11:27 But I didn't know that really was. So, I mean, I'm
Starting point is 01:11:32 fiatte that I have I've had been with people that
Starting point is 01:11:37 have had that kind of vision when were when they
Starting point is 01:11:40 were And the children not spant so because they describe that
Starting point is 01:11:49 these spirits are like people, and we have been in many stories that are
Starting point is 01:11:55 they're not they're not they're not, no, no, no, no. Those are like if
Starting point is 01:12:03 were reales. Like normales, like a person normal. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:12:07 That's, that's, that's, that's, and the people, and the ability of the mediated, that's
Starting point is 01:12:15 they're in. You say, and you're that apart they're to be demons and see things
Starting point is 01:12:19 yeah very very sinister, but when you see a spirit human,
Starting point is 01:12:25 a sometimes you see the semblante and sometimes those see,
Starting point is 01:12:30 where they they're there. There's there's there that there's that I
Starting point is 01:12:35 tell you to tell that I finalizzo so it's called visitants
Starting point is 01:12:40 it's the first story that something that a little this
Starting point is 01:12:46 is a person adult. Juan. Juan, he has that he has been various
Starting point is 01:12:53 years living in the States. He lives in Santa Fe New Mexico, States United. He knows
Starting point is 01:12:59 he has that for circumstances of the life, he he was planning
Starting point is 01:13:03 to return to Mexico but in those years he top with the
Starting point is 01:13:08 thing of the new new the new we know I
Starting point is 01:13:12 I can't say the name. The frontiers are the frontiers and he, he was, he had to return to the United.
Starting point is 01:13:20 He said, well, he said, I had to keep to get to make a life here. I've got to a new
Starting point is 01:13:28 style of life for here. He me said that all he's his family in the United, he all
Starting point is 01:13:33 the time he, apart that lived, apart that he was a person, I'm a man of the house,
Starting point is 01:13:39 the house to the house of the job, no He had friends, no
Starting point is 01:13:42 he had friends, really the depression that he felt even for being in
Starting point is 01:13:46 his family he was to be to be to be a little of the he, he
Starting point is 01:13:53 tried to understand that maybe that that's sentiment of nostalgia of
Starting point is 01:13:58 that today, now for he, well, he, well,
Starting point is 01:14:04 he, he, he did to what he lived was for his state
Starting point is 01:14:07 vibrational, because it's one of the people to which is one of the ones that's a lot of the phenomena that, fichate, those I've seen more in stories of the United and Spain, in Mexico, Kassim.
Starting point is 01:14:24 And I did the context, how it was, how he'd liveia, and he said, that one day, one December, of the year past, he said, there's a festival here, and I'm going to go to
Starting point is 01:14:36 the luxury to go I have the money to go but it's just that's
Starting point is 01:14:43 just that I'm and enjoy of the fruits of my job he went
Starting point is 01:14:48 he took a carmion and he went to the festival
Starting point is 01:14:51 a despite that he was he know he
Starting point is 01:14:56 he got he bought some something he he
Starting point is 01:15:00 took my bus me go to my house
Starting point is 01:15:03 me I go five four before in my house
Starting point is 01:15:06 and it was a time not not about at the 11 of the
Starting point is 01:15:10 night and the and there was where it was where it's
Starting point is 01:15:17 a the the and the nothing no no
Starting point is 01:15:23 invocation no there there he said he he
Starting point is 01:15:30 he My city was very secure. But he started to feel something very rare. He said, I'mpe
Starting point is 01:15:42 to have a sensation like that someone was always I was thinking that I was going
Starting point is 01:15:50 and I was that was that also also was if I doblah the right
Starting point is 01:15:57 I was going to I'm I'm seeing I was but I did reojo but I'm
Starting point is 01:16:02 completely atras by fear, but I feltia that something had
Starting point is 01:16:08 and that every he was more to get more I'm yeah
Starting point is 01:16:14 I'm I'm I'm very tembloroso because really I don't
Starting point is 01:16:21 see my imagination or if he to hear to listen
Starting point is 01:16:25 the the passos but I looked to down
Starting point is 01:16:30 I saw my I'm my to my side, like
Starting point is 01:16:34 of people that they're at the I'm there's nothing. I'm
Starting point is 01:16:39 I'm going to start to have to have a lot of and I metros before
Starting point is 01:16:45 to get to his house he he's he's he sentia
Starting point is 01:16:50 the respiration behind me like when someone that's very
Starting point is 01:16:56 very close to you and before to get to the
Starting point is 01:17:00 hand to my pantal and go It was impressive to see how my man no temblable
Starting point is 01:17:07 of fear I'd try to insert the key no could for the
Starting point is 01:17:14 desperation for the fear for all what I was feeling I
Starting point is 01:17:19 didn't insert the I was I was the respiration very
Starting point is 01:17:23 very of him he enter the the door the
Starting point is 01:17:28 door is how he he looks to he back no
Starting point is 01:17:31 he nothing he a door and he recuester in the
Starting point is 01:17:36 door and he let's get a and he's a and
Starting point is 01:17:41 it's that passed but I felt his heart so
Starting point is 01:17:47 I felt that something something because he said really
Starting point is 01:17:54 really I'm to get a to see how there
Starting point is 01:17:57 something that me was seeing since that I backed to that
Starting point is 01:18:02 the bus well he went to his house he's he put a
Starting point is 01:18:07 movie and he that the television started to make to do a
Starting point is 01:18:12 do a bit to do his mind to get my imagination
Starting point is 01:18:17 I get at the time to get to he he's
Starting point is 01:18:21 prepare to do he he and he a bad
Starting point is 01:18:30 jugged of my mind and so he kept thinking until
Starting point is 01:18:34 that he got to get to get the of the hours
Starting point is 01:18:39 and he and he he said to listen voices outside of
Starting point is 01:18:44 the house the voices grittable there there there
Starting point is 01:18:48 there help us helpen us abran us for favor for
Starting point is 01:18:57 he he opened the eyes and He heard that really
Starting point is 01:19:02 was out out of his house, he was very he he's
Starting point is 01:19:07 he's he he is over the window to look to
Starting point is 01:19:13 no there nobody look 2. 40 of the morning
Starting point is 01:19:18 he I'm still listening the voices but no
Starting point is 01:19:23 he didn't nothing and the voices were so they were
Starting point is 01:19:27 voices of the but not one they were one they're like two
Starting point is 01:19:31 or three all the time grittando there's there there's something
Starting point is 01:19:36 there's but he he's not he he's he'll listen those
Starting point is 01:19:43 voices he he's he's ready to get to work to be
Starting point is 01:19:48 a in the morning but there was something but was a
Starting point is 01:19:52 turn and I was I'm was very nervous because
Starting point is 01:19:57 the same sensation of when I was coming now I think to get
Starting point is 01:20:01 to work if I think I'm to a department to another I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:20:07 but I know of my my people and that that those
Starting point is 01:20:11 miras siniestras were very very me a one
Starting point is 01:20:18 a time a time until he gets the Saturday
Starting point is 01:20:23 no I'm going to go I all the day, even was I'm going to
Starting point is 01:20:28 show and so he said I'm going to see, I'm to get to get because
Starting point is 01:20:34 probably it's the stress. I want to my family so he's prepare a a chocolate little
Starting point is 01:20:39 a little open the windows to see the light you put his movie and he's
Starting point is 01:20:45 and he dispone to to do his he's he's he's
Starting point is 01:20:50 like all an adult that want to want to see a
Starting point is 01:20:54 to relaxes. To relaxes in the first minutes to be able to see the movie, it's a headcear. It's to get
Starting point is 01:21:02 to be done there. There, in the sofa of the cell. It were
Starting point is 01:21:08 at the night when he practically he was supermating he was normally
Starting point is 01:21:17 he was he was when when of when of the And then I'm going to hear again
Starting point is 01:21:23 those voices that I've heard of madrugat but this this time they're now
Starting point is 01:21:29 to be talking their but with a desperation and they were some those were very
Starting point is 01:21:35 very very he'll be the hour not not time and he
Starting point is 01:21:42 he says what they're they're why me molestan and only
Starting point is 01:21:48 they respond helpen us for favor let us enter why not
Starting point is 01:21:54 us let us help us there are various those who were out of
Starting point is 01:22:01 your house but this this time accompanied with like
Starting point is 01:22:05 they were like to turn to turn to
Starting point is 01:22:08 turn they're they're they're men he he's he
Starting point is 01:22:12 so how so they're taking in account that
Starting point is 01:22:16 I'm an adult of 34 four years, metying to a one of
Starting point is 01:22:21 a house where he live alone. Somatement dangerous, no I'm going to do. He
Starting point is 01:22:27 went to think that he's about some of the people in a situation of the
Starting point is 01:22:31 in a situation in this moment he he is a and here here comes for me
Starting point is 01:22:39 what is in book the terror. Be a three people out far.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Parados in front of the door. Ascrowing his heads against
Starting point is 01:22:54 the door saying let me enter. When they're they're
Starting point is 01:23:01 looking at the one, the three giron his face to him.
Starting point is 01:23:07 He says, it's like if all his eyes were
Starting point is 01:23:13 completely negros. It was like if the pupila covered all
Starting point is 01:23:17 the o'ho and no there was a black. When I'm going to I'm going to
Starting point is 01:23:24 I'm going to not a normal and that was a and that was attacking directly to me in that
Starting point is 01:23:34 moment he he took the telephone mark the 911 and he he's to help
Starting point is 01:23:39 to the policeia to be to be a patruia because something I wanted
Starting point is 01:23:44 to come to come to come to he said that were some
Starting point is 01:23:46 children. Gere on the patruas and the people are in their
Starting point is 01:23:50 house they're in a bolto in all the bestionary. The
Starting point is 01:23:55 officers they asked to the people if had seen
Starting point is 01:23:58 to the people because when there no there's no. The
Starting point is 01:24:02 people don't. No. No we've seen we and we don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Nothing. Nothing. He says, no I can start loco.
Starting point is 01:24:13 The surprising of this is that was that I was going to
Starting point is 01:24:16 the tierrita was mojada. Stavann those were there are marked that's
Starting point is 01:24:26 that it did that not me took a loco because there were moustras all
Starting point is 01:24:32 kept in a simple a problem no so you are some those are some
Starting point is 01:24:37 people are some go to your court and do so
Starting point is 01:24:41 that the those eyes Negro that probably probably it was
Starting point is 01:24:46 for it. It was for thought of a question. He
Starting point is 01:24:51 went to do you I'm encied in this moment I'm a
Starting point is 01:24:55 door I'm had a much fear because the really
Starting point is 01:25:00 is that I'm was I'm was going or no he
Starting point is 01:25:04 passed the time he he gave to do
Starting point is 01:25:07 practice psychiat because I wanted to some type
Starting point is 01:25:12 of some of No existia No problem And those Wheyes Afora
Starting point is 01:25:18 of your door Not are a local PAS the time Pass the time Passed the time
Starting point is 01:25:26 Passed the months And again He again He'll hear The Sonio of
Starting point is 01:25:35 the Sonio of the sound of this occasion He decided confrontals Those
Starting point is 01:25:41 those those I'm to confront them open the window and no
Starting point is 01:25:46 be nothing but over the video of the window was
Starting point is 01:25:51 written let us enter he he finalize his story
Starting point is 01:25:57 saying I no I don't put with this situation
Starting point is 01:26:00 at day of today my my nerves me
Starting point is 01:26:06 are destroying I am in the family come for me.
Starting point is 01:26:14 This Correo came with one of the titles of the I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:26:19 I'm this is a that's a that's a that that's that was
Starting point is 01:26:27 when the this person this person it's living for me for me
Starting point is 01:26:33 one of the one of the cases more very very very my doubt
Starting point is 01:26:39 is what could disembucked this? There's a legend urban of the
Starting point is 01:26:45 children of the eyes in Spain I'm like with a friend a man a man
Starting point is 01:26:50 a man who's in the Mexico in Mexico I don't see this case
Starting point is 01:26:53 not very not not very but there there's much
Starting point is 01:26:57 this type of the that that interesting would
Starting point is 01:27:01 in some something could know what what Definitely
Starting point is 01:27:11 Impresionant Paco Impresionate For me one of the stories Ihole that
Starting point is 01:27:19 I kept with a grand incognita what was what what was what did you
Starting point is 01:27:25 have been originated to have been a cause primary and well well
Starting point is 01:27:30 definitely definitely have to explore have to remissar and well
Starting point is 01:27:37 it's question only of to take to take action to take
Starting point is 01:27:42 to make I'm going to start with a story very really a story
Starting point is 01:27:48 yeah this story I'm going to a finales to the family Toledo for
Starting point is 01:28:02 questions of work the husband of name Jaime and the husband of number
Starting point is 01:28:06 Martha well They had changed, or they had moved of the city, yeah, where they lived anteriorly,
Starting point is 01:28:14 the departments of the company, for the where they both were, they were in the same
Starting point is 01:28:19 company, was they were being marmando, they were disappearing until certain point. They were
Starting point is 01:28:23 doing changes in the organization, and well, they were practically
Starting point is 01:28:27 yeah, being the possibility, so practically yeah, to move and they started
Starting point is 01:28:33 with this decision that both took, then a new life. Decided
Starting point is 01:28:38 Emprender A new Vida Tienen a two daughters One of Saira
Starting point is 01:28:44 of 12 years of and Sophia the most Pepegiene Apeness I was to come
Starting point is 01:28:50 seven years Resulta that the city that they're well the
Starting point is 01:28:55 family rapidly could adaptate without without without this
Starting point is 01:28:59 city not a city very like the earlier
Starting point is 01:29:03 where they had had had been was very comod all right
Starting point is 01:29:07 and around there were commercees there were establishments to where they could start their dispense
Starting point is 01:29:12 and without a park where they were to go to get to get to get to get to
Starting point is 01:29:17 and without they were they're definitely the people the people of that they were
Starting point is 01:29:23 where they were they're very amable very very well cordial
Starting point is 01:29:30 with even even even even even they did a
Starting point is 01:29:33 good receiving a The little Sophia, in her school, in her new school, the which had been inscrited, for her not was a problem, Paco, to be able to, and to be friends,
Starting point is 01:29:45 and to be friends, over all, in special, of a little bit of a woman, Lupita. She was very amyga of her immediately, did that match, that click,
Starting point is 01:29:55 and they were to be very good friends to the two. Lupita, curiously, lived very close of the house where they were,
Starting point is 01:30:03 where they lived. Suced that at the hour that they got to dinner at Sophie, the little was very
Starting point is 01:30:14 very good about very well of her new friend to who had known obviously in the
Starting point is 01:30:20 school and conform they were the days every that they had their
Starting point is 01:30:24 ritual of the dinner or always always I was to
Starting point is 01:30:28 say the friend the she and a new a new anecdote of what
Starting point is 01:30:34 they had done in the school, that they've played, of what
Starting point is 01:30:37 they've talked about even, and there always there a detail new to tell.
Starting point is 01:30:43 For his parents, Jaime and Marta, for their part they were to have
Starting point is 01:30:49 a very good relation with the mom of Lupita. And they did you do a
Starting point is 01:30:54 kind of and when then they they're they're they're sometimes. Sandra
Starting point is 01:30:59 was called the mom of Lupita, for certain. Saira, the
Starting point is 01:31:03 Hermana was distant, and she difficulted to her relationship with the person. So, she didn't, no, no, he'so with her friend of her brother. But, well, she expressed that she sentia very a good, convivating with that family and with that friend of hermina. So, it was advancing practically the time. Passed
Starting point is 01:31:28 some first six months in that had been getting to that new place.
Starting point is 01:31:34 And the detail was that while it's the time Paco, his
Starting point is 01:31:39 papas Jaime and Martha started to have some
Starting point is 01:31:44 some difficulties as usually in the matrimonion that
Starting point is 01:31:47 those difficulties were those with some with the
Starting point is 01:31:52 time because both both were for the same
Starting point is 01:31:54 the detail here Paco is that both arastra
Starting point is 01:32:00 their problems that were laboral to the house. The grave error that the problem
Starting point is 01:32:07 of the problem of the job, get those of the other than those of the house,
Starting point is 01:32:11 get them to get them to be common. But in this case there was a moment in that
Starting point is 01:32:17 the two decided to make immediate without without think it, in
Starting point is 01:32:22 incerars in your room to have those discussions that were very
Starting point is 01:32:26 acalorated and they were much of tono. from and then
Starting point is 01:32:30 they were to say that that was Aira that was the major that she would be to see to be
Starting point is 01:32:37 the television even they they said and they said and say subele all the volume to the
Starting point is 01:32:41 television to make a tele with you the intention was Paco so that she's
Starting point is 01:32:48 so Aira and little because no they're not they're because yeah the
Starting point is 01:32:54 discussion was just quite a calorada and quite quite For the time, Saira,
Starting point is 01:33:01 she'd kept in his quarter watching, well, a program X of television, while the
Starting point is 01:33:07 little bit of sofi, was commenced with a routine new, fiftate. Resulta
Starting point is 01:33:12 that the little was a phone with Lupita. For Sayra, this was
Starting point is 01:33:20 something strange, it's a rare, that all the day, the same circumstances,
Starting point is 01:33:27 the papas, the little bit, the little bit. And, well, so, so they'd both,
Starting point is 01:33:34 both, every one, so, the major, being the TV, and the little, and the
Starting point is 01:33:39 little bit more, the little, the father, and they're not, peleandos, and both. And,
Starting point is 01:33:44 well, every time that came the people, the time, the same story.
Starting point is 01:33:50 It was yeah, something was a certain point. Yes. These
Starting point is 01:33:54 discussions, well, yeah, not they're of the agrado, from the of the little of the children.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Sure. And, and from the major, was always preoccupated because no mermara
Starting point is 01:34:07 in the attitude of her little of her and sofi, was actually to the impossible
Starting point is 01:34:12 because she not would be to be a pendent of what occurred in that
Starting point is 01:34:16 situation. Well, it's a Saturday. Jaime he said to his daughter, the major
Starting point is 01:34:23 his, Accompaname. We're to buy some things. I'm to buy some
Starting point is 01:34:27 details that I make some need to get to make some
Starting point is 01:34:31 muebles that I need to compose he said the she said no
Starting point is 01:34:37 yeah let's the reality Paco is that he he
Starting point is 01:34:42 wanted to get to the house for not not
Starting point is 01:34:45 not with that so okay so for like
Starting point is 01:34:50 for like a day to that I know
Starting point is 01:34:54 that was me marmando so Well, well, meantime Tant, in the
Starting point is 01:34:58 house, well, she kept in the mom. Martha and the little Sophie,
Starting point is 01:35:04 they were in a kind of doing his things. Well, resulta, Paco,
Starting point is 01:35:08 that Sophie always was a little something something something a
Starting point is 01:35:13 little that when she was a doubt she she, without
Starting point is 01:35:18 her, was acudia to somebody to any to the
Starting point is 01:35:22 family to ask to be to his mom to her father
Starting point is 01:35:26 as a and her mother, and in that occasion Sophie he's he's
Starting point is 01:35:30 he's he he's he's he know that they are
Starting point is 01:35:35 two words martha he what are what are those words
Starting point is 01:35:41 if I'm I see I'm obviously I'm to say and
Starting point is 01:35:45 so no so so we're we're we gogliam
Starting point is 01:35:49 and let's you do the response so so Well, Sophie, he said to his mom,
Starting point is 01:35:57 the words, divorce, and adulterio. The mom in that moment she kept so stupefacta, consterned, obviously, it was notable. The molestia,
Starting point is 01:36:13 like if he were irving the blood in that moment. And, and a lotesta, he asked to the little bit, where and who
Starting point is 01:36:22 you have said those words. Dimmel now in this moment. And Sophie he said,
Starting point is 01:36:27 Mami, me said that my father and you are to do
Starting point is 01:36:31 do for adulterio. Obio the little she's with
Starting point is 01:36:37 tears in the eyes preoccupied to certain point because
Starting point is 01:36:42 like that she not she didn't make to
Starting point is 01:36:47 feel that was a malo. Something that not was
Starting point is 01:36:50 a man he said he reprend Sophie, Dime
Starting point is 01:36:55 who did that for favor? The little he said, no
Starting point is 01:36:59 I can say, Mama. No, I'm do you do it I'm
Starting point is 01:37:03 made a promise and you me has said Mami that the promises
Starting point is 01:37:07 no don't don't let be a be a girl I'm
Starting point is 01:37:12 my mom with me and you don't and
Starting point is 01:37:16 you don't say who was my my daughter
Starting point is 01:37:21 was your No, no, she He, he He said. Then, then was, was your Papa?
Starting point is 01:37:28 Sophie, with a his head, agached and he moved the head
Starting point is 01:37:34 in signal to, no, practically giving the answer with the movement. Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:41 And insegid he said she, Sophie, nobody of this house,
Starting point is 01:37:47 to the little, he said to his mom, nobody of this house,
Starting point is 01:37:51 Mama, me he said, assurant, so faciently. In that moment he's a father,
Starting point is 01:37:59 Don Jaime, and her mother Zaira, enter to the house, and they've had been back,
Starting point is 01:38:03 but Marta was a, that had a, and he was direct over her his wife. Uff.
Starting point is 01:38:09 The jala of the brazo and immediately the he gets to her house,
Starting point is 01:38:15 to the house, yeah, standing in the room, the sarande and he
Starting point is 01:38:19 grita, he grita, He grita. Why do you and the daughter surprised and to
Starting point is 01:38:29 at a certain point, without a little bit of the first thing for the presentation of the preton,
Starting point is 01:38:35 mom, me lastime, let me, let me, please, calmate, what you do you
Starting point is 01:38:38 say, what's what's what's consternated, no? For this the
Starting point is 01:38:45 Papa Jaime also also he's did to do the court
Starting point is 01:38:48 to be what was occurring. Yes. Well, Marta interrogate abruptly to his daughter and then it's a
Starting point is 01:38:56 trifulca there but now the family, Toledo, was in pleading, in the moment, after Sofi,
Starting point is 01:39:04 the fourth, Paco, at that was the problem, yeah, in a moment yeah, very critical.
Starting point is 01:39:12 For no no? Yes, yes, the new, and the mother, Oh, yeah, par.
Starting point is 01:39:20 It was Lupe. Lupe? In that moment, the lady, well, he's preended, go to the telephone,
Starting point is 01:39:28 he'll and he a mom of her friend, to Sandra. Oh, I'm going to ask you in
Starting point is 01:39:36 this moment that evice that your daughter play with my and that he'll be and then
Starting point is 01:39:41 the mom of Lupita and say, oh, wait, but what what happens? No.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Entire. That's he'll At the other day, Sandra, so he went to with that's to go to the house to them.
Starting point is 01:39:53 To be obviously confront her and say, hey, what's going to do you, at the other day,
Starting point is 01:39:59 he gets, and at question her, and when what was what was what was going, then the
Starting point is 01:40:07 other way, no? No, is that I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
Starting point is 01:40:10 that you do you play with my child, that you don't have any
Starting point is 01:40:14 type of contact yeah. It was a chaos total The The girl, obviously, Al percatarse And all
Starting point is 01:40:22 Darns of what He was going Traped to Calm to her mom And he said Moma, no, Yeah, calmate. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:40:33 Calamate, for favor. No, was Lupita, my amiga. It was another Lupe. How?
Starting point is 01:40:42 What, another Lupe? Yes. She she me called for telephone
Starting point is 01:40:48 one once in an occasion that you were discussing and my brother
Starting point is 01:40:52 was I'm I'm the telephone and she me and she talked about
Starting point is 01:40:59 and we have talked Lupe and you but not is Lupe my my
Starting point is 01:41:02 friend the she never the she was another she was another
Starting point is 01:41:07 she was the she was the she was the divorce And of the adulterio.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Adulterio. A be, who is that Lupe immediately? We'll mark her in this moment. So, go to the signor to the identifier of the number, and the signora mark. And nothing.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Wove to mark. And nothing. The line was apparently moll'd. Yeah. He said the little, mom, is that she only has only
Starting point is 01:41:43 when I do you know. In that moment he says, a bit, well, let's have, well, let's call, mark and hevante the bocina. The mom and the papa in that moment, put in the
Starting point is 01:41:55 altavos, opprimen the altavos, and when the child says, well, only can't it's heard a a respiration. nobody was,
Starting point is 01:42:12 well, all no having a response on the telephone, but the papas
Starting point is 01:42:15 if they were inquietos and at other day decided to go to the company
Starting point is 01:42:19 of the telephone to and resulta that the company gave
Starting point is 01:42:24 information but only the necessary saying that that line that was
Starting point is 01:42:28 done to be a back and since after many years
Starting point is 01:42:30 oh this since since much time that line
Starting point is 01:42:37 is that ladder. Resulta that the ventanilla of the
Starting point is 01:42:44 family that even other times they've reported exactly the same
Starting point is 01:42:50 number. Of that that's number Paco. Lamentably with the past
Starting point is 01:42:55 of the time, his pap Jaime and his mom Martha
Starting point is 01:42:59 she did divorce and this was a right of
Starting point is 01:43:06 the infidelity of She. She, the mom, was the problem. Termina the story, Paco.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Dice she, Sophie, that at day of today, to his 33 years of
Starting point is 01:43:22 age, still without, without who was that Lupita at the other
Starting point is 01:43:28 side of the telephone. That he he did he did he he was to be
Starting point is 01:43:33 to her. Ooh. At the Fecha, Paco. So that I remember much the
Starting point is 01:43:38 question that we're if the spirits can control really the technology.
Starting point is 01:43:46 The reality is that is that's many cases and how they can control, telephone,
Starting point is 01:43:52 signals of radio frequency, a lot of things. The fact that's these stories
Starting point is 01:43:57 were very impactants, Amigo? How you know very very
Starting point is 01:44:06 about how empalman with some anecdotas and experiences that's that I've talked to work with the new clients and also experiences propies, as well as what you said, you know, that's what you
Starting point is 01:44:18 do, you know, and it's interesting to be able to contactate? Well, practically to look responses, Paco. Curious and casually, the
Starting point is 01:44:29 last video that I got to get to my platform of YouTube has like a month and medium, uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:44:34 So, I said, a little bit of a child that was a cause, the cause, the cause,
Starting point is 01:44:40 that she's the medium that has the community, has got a different of other people, that have
Starting point is 01:44:48 other type of problems, I wanted to know, okay. We're doing a time of a process
Starting point is 01:44:54 of introspection with hypnosis, and, well, so, he's, he's, in a regression, because in
Starting point is 01:45:00 a life past, Bruja, practicable, had certain practices, and he showed to her from a little, to do do it. What she
Starting point is 01:45:10 didn't do in that occasion is that the mom did work for affect to the person. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:16 And that no, no, he agraded to her in his moment. Yes, he learned
Starting point is 01:45:21 and all, but, well, no, because it was part of, the, the,
Starting point is 01:45:27 the, the, that his mother, he, he took a generation, in
Starting point is 01:45:31 generation, then, then, she had that that's a so curious and he's soffered
Starting point is 01:45:34 a person to know to know how the don't the don't the don't even more. More than
Starting point is 01:45:40 for curiosity was for the desire to know of so so for people like these
Starting point is 01:45:46 these stories that they did get yeah I can I can't say you I'm
Starting point is 01:45:52 an exercise to this indole could give to do to do what he's
Starting point is 01:45:56 clear the map no clear of some kind of certain certain idea
Starting point is 01:46:01 that could to do it, even if it's that's generating a problem a problem
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