EXTRA ANORMAL - La Curandera NAHUAL | Historias Siniestras de Curanderos

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

“Estas historias no son simples leyendas… son relatos reales de curanderos que cruzaron límites prohibidos. Nahuales, entidades que visitan por las noches, pactos con la muerte y rituales que terminaron en tragedia. ¿Estás listo para escuchar lo que muchos prefieren callar?”En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast te llevamos al mundo oculto de la curandería mexicana, donde los límites entre la sanación, la magia y lo prohibido se desvanecen.Descubre relatos reales donde curanderos, nahuales y entidades oscuras ponen a prueba la fe, la vida y el destino de quienes se cruzan en su camino:🔥 Relatos del episodio1944, Santa Catarina Ixtepeji: Una curandera del pueblo se transformaba en nahual.San Juan Chamula: una mujer busca un trabajo espiritual para tener un hijo… y termina teniendo encuentros nocturnos con una entidad que bajaba a su habitación.Un soldado en Jalisco: cae en batalla y presencia su propia muerte, pero una mujer que domina los 4 elementos lo regresa a la vida.Puente Grande, Jalisco: la cámara de Valerio graba a La Muerte caminando con guadaña, y descubre a una “curandera de la virgen” que realmente trabajaba con demonios.La enfermera oscura: una mujer que servía a una deidad y entregaba a los 1NF4NT35 como ofrendas.Curandera en riesgo: al expulsar un demonio de un niño, ella misma termina marcada.El amarre mal hecho: una enfermera intenta amarrar a un doctor… pero el curandero que intervino hizo que el amarre cayera sobre ella misma.Prepárate para un episodio lleno de magia negra, nahuales, entidades, pactos y rituales que jamás deberían existir.👉 Dale like, comparte y suscríbete para más relatos reales de terror.

Hello, how are you guys? Good, how did you go in your tripas? Very well, I've got to get, I'm super well, I know a much people, even some people extranaz me regalers for protection. Wow, how great, and you're going to

put to put it? Yeah, I've got to put it a moment, even though I'm going to be a very honest, I'm a bit of fear because me had been said that these pertaincied to some people that are dead, and these colliers were in a pantheon for five years.

What fear! What strange, no? But, well, if it's for protection, Adelante. Yes, for sure. But as I said, since I've put it, I've seen a little bit strange.

To say, I've said, I've heard, I've got to hear something that I don't know, no, I don't know if came here.

Marco, Marco, Marco, Bango, where are you? Contest me. Bango! It's... ...so...

...so... ...se d'is that in every ...the mexico, ...exist a curandero. A person that, of resos, yerbys and pocions,

can do do anything but what what's when that that's when that's

not from generation in generation but it's not it's something that's

in the obscurity this night we're to hear that stories

so so I'm to you do you get to

this episode so Welcome. What How, family, be welcome to a one

chapter more of a podcast Extraanormal. My name is Paco Arias and I'm happy to

start in a chapter for all of you know, a theme that I think

that I think much to feel to find because earlier in

different in different places people, people, communities was more

more that the people recurrier to the help of a curandera that of a medical or a doctor

for different situations. Much of people crecimus and I think we're seeing how these people or

these people came and were there a egg with an albaca with alcohol that for the empacho

but into all these traditions is it's it's sometimes

a time much more much more more even for some people, a little, even demoniac. Histories

of curanderers. To talk this night, us accompany a great, great invite, also a friend of us, of the community of the podcast Extraanormal, and that we honor much that we comepani this night,

our dear Christian Valerio, Niño de la Luz. How are you? Thanks, Mark. Thanks, Paco. Content to be here. Effectively, to talk of curanderos is to talk of history,

about a legend, about of those traditions Mexicanas, but also that are the secretes

of these curanderos? With what deities can curate? Realment they're working with

the light or really only only what they're doing what is with what they're

doing. Today we going to have these stories macabras and discover each one

of the things that much many those curanderos of an

for the time, well, that's super interesting. You have something? What's what?

Who is the CER? That's the famous miracle that could provoke great, great speculation. For,

I know, you know, you know, they've seen, with great friends, but for if there's a person who is

to do you and you're to do you? Christian Malari, who is, is Viente, I'm dedico effectively to the world esoteric because I'm palero and I'm satero, malditcho, but the, uh,

the, uh, a, uh, religion joruba. My reeds social is Christian Valerio, Linio, in the Luz in Facebook,

Instagram, as Christian, guion, balerio, point official, and the channel of YouTube, as Christian Valerio, the Lleust. And,

well, now, as I'm dedicated to during all these years, to be also not a curandero but to be a medium, be a evidente and be a sanator also spiritual. Okay, so then all the reds social

like Christian Valerio, a new of the loose. Much of people you know, the fact that you know, the first time that I've seen in the city of Mexico

has almost two years you can't believe it, yeah, so time and to be with us here with us the truth

the fact I'm emotional the theme I think that is excellent for because much people, as I said in a

principle, the day of today they're going to these people and no there's when we

don't present attention to the details. These things that sometimes are very are not

there are a bit of there's not things bads that make good and good

that make badas. Before to start family, let's I want to say

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and you're going to be in our site official. Christian, let me to tell you a story, brother.

This story seems a sacada of a story of terror of fiction. And is that

this story I told when I started when I know the podcast. And that's it's a impact too.

Because it's of these that take a that's this story occurred in

the year in the year in a place called Santa Katarina

Ixtepeji in this place in this year began a

situation and started to appear in women and

but over all of the children in forms

totally unnombrable tirados in camps of cultivation in where there cements

of water in rios there were in these people the people rumored

that they were that they were big felinos of the mountains

in and and that and that they were and

they were and they were very recurrent for them

and it was so normal that a person of

the Obviously, without, but there was a peculiarity. The adults those were almost

always faulting the heart. And the children, the children was much better,

because the little were in a manner where it were that were

that they were all the same. The kids were black like if

were a whole yatot, completely drenados, and this, the people began to

speculate different things. In this place, in this year, there was

a woman that was like the typical witch or the curandera of the woman,

a woman that had a good, sanator, and was a person,

and where the women embarasas recurried for the part- part-to-

them part-to- to tell to massagearl, so it was a woman very very respected for the

people. So it was the typical woman that all the time was even even without cobrar

because she always repeated that her work or the reason to exist is because she

is because she has been to help the progimo. So, all these things were

just that I'm going to talk to be to the abuelito of one of our

other of our one of the people, an atlapalier, a business where he was from the 6th of the

morning, he'd a few kilometers to the people. And he said that every time

that he had a little, sentia that an animal or something, he was

going to say that he was out of his house, he was and coming into

these can't around that are around the arboles and the gervas,

I heard like between the mountain, something was like to the part of him. He was

he franed, he wasomable and no had nothing. But he constantly sentia that something

and I felt this presence. At the job, he was in the public,

he had the business, he had and after the time he,

he, he was to go to his house, and this was

always this sensation of that something of in one of these occasions he he said that

he was able to hear of the sound that he does he this jadeo this respiration but he at bolter

never never saw he got to his house and I think he's imagine in this scene

because in that year no there was the man came with a lantern

a carmine a carerer road of arboles so so very pesado,

and he this occasion sentio that this thing was very close to him, get rapidly to his

house, open the door, it's ence a, he's a soma for the

window to and see what on, and he says that only he only can look to

look to see, and this very just almost like a silhouette of a little

like a or something or something but of the time like of a A cabo, very

great. He said that he sent him much fear. Of course he said,

he said, no, well, is that something me going to be seeing and there

in the public, one has one has you know, he's that she kept in

house, making work, making, making, doing the don't you know,

get to come to eat, go, go, go, went to get to

get to, it's a person, he's a person, this is started to happen,

constantly constantly one and other once. In one occasion, he also ran to his house. He found to

a woman that was very espantated. When he conversed with her, this lady, this lady said that came

an animal corriending in two patas at the part of she entered in the mountain and

he came, he was an animal that was an animal that was a very common. In one

occasion, this sir It was a very rare standing in his business he said

he's he's here in his a pain a lot very a

repression and like some an grandas immense of year

he he has the need the business before the

time and in his mind in his thinking was

his she was he then he said something

something something something something he he, while to do that

to start to start the thing, he's going to go to he's

he's the way he's he's like a little a piquet like a

pussone in the pecho until the air he felt he said he gets

to the house but before to enter notice something his

husband normally at that hour was he was outside and

he was the fire was apagado, no had nothing

and he like he's this oppression more he's he does

know that one of the doors atras is open when

that was all the time was all he

he he he he to protect is not

not to not to get the house because

he had a present when he he he

that's for his recamara, and is where he see the the worst that you can't imagine. What he observes

in this ventana with much silence, he says that in his camera, or

better in his catre, because they were in catre, there was

an animal very very very between per or

puma completely black of the where they're like

he was coming something. He he he he's

this oppression more but when he he has to see a

see a man a man that pertinacy to his person

imagine the pain that this man he was being his

husband was being devorated for this person that person

that me the person that's And me He said, Paco, my abuel

us that with tears, with a nudo in the garganta, but with a set

incredible of vengeance, it was the world. My abuel no had like other

people, arms, scopetas, no had nothing. My abel always

always was always always. My abel the first that was a patio

is a barilla, a barilla that was in the Tierra, a mode to

occupy it as a tendedero, that anteriorly he had taken a point,

what my abel thinks is that the barilla, enter to the house

with this animal was a but profoundly in the he was

eating and he said that the only that his old is his

his eyes and he he'll then the first

call this animal heke because he's that the

baria he It's this part of the Cuello. The animal what he is rapidly and it's

where he the time of this animal an animal an animal enormous like a puma but

he's having a rastro of the same the she was obviously without

being was being devoured for this the abuel obviously with this

set of vengeance convoc to his besinus he said to this animal

that was the animal caused so damage and a murder and decided

to see it because it was going to make a rastro they're in this

place in this serro that's located in Santa Catarina Xtepej

they they're they're they went and they're to get

to a cave a a cove that nobody said that

there was at getting what they they they're

on the piece no is a no animal they're a

person how the and the surprising is that not was a

person was the she was to curate to the

people to the people that everybody respect the

the person that was the person was was

a completely disnuda in a charco of a with a

with a problem that perforable obviously part of his coel.

That person when me shared a lot of time, and that was of the

first that I told me surprised because he said Paco, the

people of the people know the people. Because all the

people when came with the person because what they were to

do you were to seen the scene or so if any person go to

this city and he about the woman that was deborated in his

proper and they are information because all the people saw this

they they gave Christian a sepultura and was something to make completely to the

people and this person me said for some of the time my family cobred a life

and in This people cobrough much lives. It's one of the stories more

that I've got to read that occurred in a place. I know what you

think you. It's to be curanderos not is only about about the

limpies. It's about the transformation. To say, curandero

you have to have to have don't, I'm I'm don't, he's

I'm those great talents that were those people, is

is to have that capacity. And, and, and to be curandero, he had to come,

to generation in generation and sharing, and different elements, certain things that only

were only were from the ancestors, from the people, and one of them

was the capacity to transform in aguales. And there is where it comes

the turbio, that this class of persons is the liquid vital to put

to have those dones those capacities fertes I'm going to to be

something that has to be also related to the liquid vital

but fiette Paco I I'm to think and I think

there in casita or where we we're in what

you if you You know, that on on a ser-kered-too, your spouse, your kids, there's a

a certain and that when you're you, you know, that was the person in the who all the

community confiaba. All the community had a faith. Because it was the curanderos in the

pueblos, in the maximum. Yes. No, no doctors. no there's

there's there curanderers and they put in the faith absolute to be

over the God in these people and that this person would have been the

that he would be the life to your to do that you know

I'm I imagine much that scene because that that sir took

the value to be and act control constantly I

think that whatever or grita or or she

The vintas, and a sierra's, and it was going to pass the same. This man had this capacity of reason, pence to the vision, to the actions, to say, no, I have to control me, and to be able, for the

less, from what occurred, because when he terminate with this, all, all, all, so it's free, the quantity of persons that, of the nothing, appear, and they're, they're to appear. And, fiette

the, what, the, and what I'm really the attention of, of this case that you know, Paco,

the question of the question of the questions. Exactly. How were, how were they're

a rebated those and is that energetically the question of the questions of the most

pure that can be that is. It's the most pure and if it's arrebated

even when a person was with a man, it's an energy with

the world this person was doing to be to be to be also, to do

their works supposedly of salvation at the hour of to be curandera. Exactly.

The thing of the heart is we've been about in rituals of power

which is something, I mean, that I can't mention it in this platform. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. It's is a fencing, I take a story and it's a story

very similar to the but occur in a place very known in Mexico. San Juan Chamula.

Ooh. San Juan Chamula in Mexico is a place emblematic, enigmatic in Chiapas. In Chiap. Because this place is

originally created by questions of chamanes, of curanderos, and that are those who rigged in this place. And to be

to put to give to them to them. To me me took for many years to attender a case

of a person the which he was, or was more to this place of San Juan Chamula and was

a person Paco that she wanted to have children and for one or other

not could have children. There they are that in San Juan Chamula

exist in the best curandero the people that are those

dones to make that a a person could have children she

a man chamula, she's encounter in this place emblematic that is

the famous parroki of San Juan Chamula. I've entered

to the little mano. And that's difficult. Not they're

not they can't be or grab or nothing and many times even when

when someone is when you have to get to get to you what

what is. What He, no, so much people. And what is that is a temple

very different to those that we know we don't exist bankas, no exists light,

it's all in tinneblas and the only that can say that they can be are the

bellators that are this and the offrendas that are that are that are

that they are all santo because the sants are around of this

place but to every santo according to do you want to

do what the beautiful of this place is

the emblematic that can be and that can be a

and the culture but not it is so because and

do they do and they do and rituals

where we we we we we this liquid

of this liquid that is disprend by animals

animals where they're and that and that there are disbivis to this person when

he gets contact a a person to a man he gets to this place they start a ceremony

they're they're with the Virgin Maria and at the hour that

they're they're they're they're that that famous that we're

that we're we're they're a reja of refresh of cola, the Coca-Cola in specific, because no want another, more than this

refreshco, is vacilled over his body, and, posteriorly, to this, they're pittles. Those two pichones, those two pichones, well, effectively, you know what is what they pass, they're for their body, and, posterior to this, then, uh, a, uh,

a, um, a fin that no, we'd like with the animals. The liquid vital, that sule derraming these animals, always are to banning to the saints or the person. She says that they're in their vintre, they're in their camiseta, and they're going to put certain symbols in your vintre

with the liquid vital. She said that sentia many things in her. Afterior to this, to the day next they were because

he had to not to that temple and had concluded what she had had offered

what he had offered but I had to go to this person of this

curandero when when he got to the curandero the

chistoso is that they're they're now they're not with some

pichon but not with a borgue they make the

the act with the borrego. Posterior to this, the the skin of the borrego, they're cut them the skin of the borrego and cover to this person. I said that immediately

to see all this and she dismayed. No, I know what was what was going. Wohalajara. When he went to to Guadalajara a part of that

night, she sentia that something he had that something, and that something was passing in his

habitation all the nights because I'm the famous oppression, the

that someone was up to get to be to be that someone was that's

not only I'm this oppression but he had also

something sexual with this entity with this energy

because that the chamal he promised that effectively

if if But no he did of who? But no he

did of who? At the time, this was doing more because

she was she was her and she didn't have nothing with

his mario and all the mornings she up

chupetons like were moret but were like they were

like chupetones in all his and he was

I'm very can't because because all the noches,

someone was and had intimidate with these energies.

At the past of three months, she has made a problem.

And the so that she wanted occurred. The famous miracle,

it was unbarasada. What what occurred after of seven months was something

was a very discavealed because changed for complete his

form of this person. A to the grad opaco that

the family decided to get to my consultory for

that I checker when I checker I feel that she she can she

that she has an energy or an entity within of

the body we we start the ritual of

exorcism of liberation and when we we're to

do she was embarrassed she was the baby

the product that had had a way very drastic, very fea. I decided to

because we could cause to cause some damage. Posterior of this impor really the situation and

we decided, as the days, to conclude what he had decided, what was what

happened, that when we started to expulsar the demonios that had this person,

at the the end of the days, when we we just terminated the act

of liberation, At the end of the days, she'd the product that was the product that's what what he said

to his husband, or what me to say, was something that when she was

when she goes to the baby that all they were a baby, was not a baby. It was

a kind of of rat and and at expulsar this with the sanglerio that's

they've been, so they did in account that not something and that

they they had mounted in a place was a energy of a

demonio of a cubus as the we do we

do mention and that really the product of

this violation of these energies or people I'm

think I was I'm doing so many years

cases of women that were inbaras by spirits incoos sucubus

because for the entity masculine so and there and there cases that were

impressive because the women were saying is that me did a

problem was positive I go to the doctor me confirm they're they're

they're there only a little inconvenient. No, I've taken relations sexual with

with anyone person. Viva. All have been by the these people who

get in the night, and is that the pleasure that the people describe in the is a pleasure

that human is a level inalcansable. No, there one person that could

And these persons, they said, for me the nights is to expect a visit. This case that I investigated, I think the

woman, she called Sarah, mentioned that she had to do with, without a lot of interior,

piernas abirtas, waiting on the moment. Only that is a sombre and that they say,

that is that she's been that they had been that had been there, I think, four,

five, I think, the bulte in the bintre, or so, like. Yeah.

But, but extranament she had the product to me it was

the three months. The detail is that he's a way a form extraia

because they say are dolores, dolores, dolores, of these says

that it is that you're doing that you're you're and you in the

taza what there is something like is like an animal the time of an animal, obviously.

But it has like like, like, this semehanza with a, with a type human,

type baby, feto, a thing and this woman, yeah, it was the last time

that had occurred this. And you say, I don't what is. So,

then I'm surprised really this that you did, because I, that I,

that was, that has a case, it has, I mean, I put to investigate, I mean, it was like, in barasos psychological, me it's like that they're, that also the symptoms,

but are people, a men, those who have been with these demonious sexual, is impressive how their body also. It has a reaction. He has a reaction,

my reaction, my, so, no, I don't know, I mean, it's more impressive. This story, this story,

me, debarra, also, me, it was the story, I, the woman of the Fuego,

And right they're going to know why. This history is anonym because

it's not any person it's an element active to day of today of the

exercity a person a soldier that has experimented many things he has

he is originary of Guamahuato and that his newness

grew listening stories of terror bruchas curanderas Nahuas, duendes.

And he says, is that the truth, for me, all that was, well, questions, legends, things very

traditional of Mexico. But in the moment that you can't talk with something that you can't

questioner that is real and that no. He says that he was in 2009 to

2018, formed part of a regiment whose operations were between two cities

of Halisco. Terminando the sexenio of that then, he's

that regimient was disulto and every one of his, now so,

now, so, he were made to different points. To

him to him, but not a particular part of

the guerrero, he man, to a a penoton,

and missions enfocated to zones controlled by groups delictives.

Lugares where he me it's super enclared no there's no

there no no there not. Here those who are the

the cartels and the mission was simple to go

to the area because the report that they

are they are they are to people to

people indigen to the force to that are

they are they and they to to of malas. The report

that they manned about not only only of adults. He says that the children

those people they were to get to get even the kids were carrying rifles

more great than these and these kids had the work of

and that he knows Alcon exactly Alcon these these these kids

were they were when there always they were they were they were they were

here in Mexico, very ammajadoes, yeah were very corrupted for all this. So, there are you send to this area, to clean, to analyze, and

he says that that's, like, he'd, I mean, I'd have a years working this. But he's a ducho, that you feel

when the death, you can't get to you. You have that, not is a thought, no, don't they're

there, there's where, a sometimes we're, no, no? No. This, what happens is different.

It's like a certainty of that you know that your murder is very. And he says when

me done that mission for the Sierra of Guerrero, I had to my

murder. And the murder that he was a murder very violent. So it

was a murder obviously in a camp of battle in a

fire and he saw his body of the poor of the

person. When when he He said, is that I'm going to I'm going to die. The zone is very controlled,

is a very very pesable. And the peloton, well, I feel that going to be going to be.

They say, well, they're so they're their destiny, serving to the country. So, accept the

mission. He's a person. He's a thing to be going to what they're when they're

in the city, they're a public, that was like a little a little

phantom. The the negotiations, curtinies serradas, no there's nothing.

The people in their house in their houses, for fear. He's that they go to

the people, and to the way, rapidly, the nothing, they're

in the pass, various camions and there's, and they're

people people very armed and says, only I'm

the voice of my tenient, fire, caro, Fuego, allerted. Evidently, this was

an embossed. There was an interchamble brutal of fire. The more rare was that, for more than they, I remember to have taken to many people,

I saw how the balls, to these people not did not. They were them, even they'd even they'd

even if they didn't know what demonia was going. The problem is that little to they were abatient to

his companions, to one to one were going to and he he said, I'm going to I'm going to

I'm going to I'm going to he was he was he said when he said when heurro

a person that's very black very a very amy when I see that he came to

my side with the casco totally destroyed because it was a

so enormous that he destroyed the casco I thought I thought the point he's a new

detonation and I'm to feel hotient in one part of the side of

he he's back the mind and he's is down that's getting

much liquid vital he said me they're they're they're

they're getting the little the the missile and

he says I'm I go and I'm trying how my companions the

people who get to start, like the adrenaline enter and the only that's

there is is to go and I goreying, I'm going going to where was the

yearba where you know there's I don't know how I'm I'm

I'm I'm until a moment when he he was going to I was

I was I was, I sentia empapada, my uniform, my camis, I sentia how it was full of,

well, of the and I was going and I see a borroso until in a point

where he he desmaya. Passed. He said that he, all past the time

not know what, he's but what he is a cold a lot

very, a color very, very quite at the grade of that

he is that he he open the he's he's

he's he remember to be in a place like a

little and that there was a fire and there was a person

and said there was a woman and an old 80

years with the cab black trance and the

only that he is shh no you do you don't

you didn't much blood. No, you move. You're going. You're going to be able. He said, Paco, I don't me

could move. I didn't talk. Sentia the garganta completely seca. It was a devil.

All right. It was like if it was even even drugated. And it was when did what

I'm going to forget. What was what he? The woman meted his two hands

to the flama that was hardying. No was that hemava at

agar the fire the and he started to manipulate the

fire with his hands like so it was like molde

something like was a mass he started he

and he and he started to start things

like things like pieces of the and she

said he was he was the hands calient

and manipulating the fire, this woman started to scoop in my heredies.

He scupia, and with his hands started to frotarlas. It was a pain indescriptible.

I felt like if they'd get an acid in my body, like if were alcohol

in an airida or like if it was a water, it's I was

to my debility that was a but it's a and a ardor

indescriptible. Tant was I was going to lose the knowledge. So,

a lot that he disconnected. Passed, when he

will to recover the conscience, he said that's because he

got to get much a light, a light very

intense that was the light, I said, I was

I'm in the same place where where I remember to

have dismayed when I started when I Fuego He said,

I remember to have the garganta seca, me dole to the head, I felt

very bad. I said, I said, I said, all the thing, it's a dream. It was a

presentia, it was a product of my imagination. The detail is that in

the moment that he see the side, is the mancha of the sandre,

is revented or is roto where the ball and he did know

that he had had had been an impact when he he's

the camis, he's been the erida. But he says that it was a error that

has to know, something something, it was and it was a mark.

This man that actually still still on the military, me says,

I don't see if it was a a carandera or a or what

whatever or what say, no I just that day I don't

I don't I don't have a fire, I know I have

respect because I know the fire also can obey Cere

this man assurred that this woman he cured with fire

with water and with gyrvas incredibly and he sent a lot

when this was in his area definitely a curandera a curandera

a curandera has the power to cure with

herbs, with elements of your body, like the saliva, with the pachamama, the earth, but over all, dominoing the four elements. Water, fire,

air. In this case, she encountered with a very good curandera. For sure. Fiatte, that when you

have an experience paranormal, in this case, with a deity like a person, zone a vivor, but

that's having a sanation, like it's a curandera, it's to cause them,

like if they're as if were a, like if were a, like, because it's

so rapid that you think you think that are days, hours, and it's very

rapid the sanation. Because, because they have more things to do that but you have

that sensation. I think the grand majority that also have experimented or through the chamanes or of the curanderos,

the famous yahuasca will understand of what I'm talking. It's a sensation like of despondiment in that moment. That's great, I remember in this

history, when I was reading, this sensation that he describes of that I'm, I'm trying, I mean, I'm, so, all he'd

all overrous, and this confusion at the final of what happened? It was a, so it was a was real, not was real,

or so, no, not know to know not even what's going to it's a

thing, I'd desire to live in a situation so difficult and that bad,

and what is the man, because something that I omit in the

history, all his peloton, all his peloton, so was done

to be down, they were done of the he was he was the

only so but you think, Paco, I you take

another story. And No, it has nothing to be with something good. We, we're we, we, we, we're

a person that's dedicated to the question of the sanation. All this occurred in Guadalajara, Jalisco

has yet much time back, some 20 years. I'd in a program paranormal,

for a channel much chiquito of television and me they'd aspert. He'd

to the redaction of this program, a story of a famous curandera, that was in a little bit a pwente Grand of

Halisco, this reclusory that all the world knows, but that had occurred certain things

paranormal at the long of 15 days before that we're had been had been

found corpses, have been had found people desmembrated and

that person, the families of these persons in specific that they were to do not the task, and they were their families, then they were to give them

to give us to their parents. Because, because, because, so, they had been with a curandera,

that was the that was very near the place, they had been found, and no had been to do that.

So, that we're that we're that we're not, when we're in the case, I immediately tried to

canalize simply the places. And there something to me that I didn't like. When I

went to a place where we were to go to go to the investigation,

I'll say to my producer, no I'm going. My producer is a

much, and I say, I said, I'm, for we're to be a place,

and you in this moment, when you we're going to get to you,

and I say, and I'm because there something that's no, because there's a

me says that not we're this place. The

evidence then I go to pass. Because there were things very

very things. Okay. Camino to Ponte Grand of

Halisco, we went, and I went very very molest,

I felt that we were to talk to something. The

people about this curandera like the good, but I

went with the sensation to say, how a

person that is a person good, that is a person that really

the person has faith not could help to be to spend these almas

of those people that they're that they're a very little

quadras where this this she live. I was very

molest to a point where I say to my

producer something something we we're coming and because

I immediately see a silhouette that cruza this

car carter that is an autopista because is an

autopista that he does to Zapotlanejo Halisco he gritted to my producer

my producer see to a and I say could you

could you cause an accident he is that there is that I'm

I'm to cover to do to do do something we

start again on the way on the we're we're to

a lateral when we we we're to the

back to to do it, Paco, to all what it was, in when we're on a side, for seconds, that car

no, it would have impacted. That car is impact, and when it's impact, it's impact in a

moor of contention, and it's to incendiary the car. Inmediate we're we back

from the car, we're to auxiliar, I, I'm met to the car,

I'm a one of the chabas that I got inconscienty and in when I saco the chava explota the car

the images are very very fervest because my producer begins to say, there's

to start to make the note from this moment. We start what was going

and I feel a free but no see what I canal I'm in that

moment like if my sixth sense me I'm put

but I'm a like of spanto, of frio, and when the material, it was something very surprising. When I do this situation,

Adelante us, ahead of the camera, pass the silhouette to the murder. With a warraina, as a while we describe it or we have, as the Mexicans

we have, pass the silhouette to the death in front of us. Infront the camera and the conductor and a servicor

that we're narrating what was going to the accident.

The camera photograph enfoced the accident because had

exploded the car the chavos we have we

had got the car and in one of the times

see how this fire so see how it

is a if was a demon like coming

us not we put attention my my to get to get to the point that was to what we've, no?

I, when passed this, I said, this is a signal that we don't have, that someone not is permitting that we're going, because we're putting things for that we're going to go to this place. Right. Because someone no he doesn't. Desovedice he, he wanted more,

we get to the point, we're perded, and, casually, we just the car, Paco, outside of the house of this person that that's supposed that was the curandera of the people. The surprise was that my producer was immediately to talk to the signor to tell her that we're going to

to leave the car there, because it's a a zone very dangerous and for what had passed earlier. It was a, it was a zone where no there's no water, where the elements basic, where no existent, Well, it was very rural. There was a ventanita

where she saw all his vellas of the lady, the lady was in her. We talked, no, no, he's made a case.

My, my producer goes to new to come, and when he comes and says, I think the

she, I think the she's doing a ritual. We're going to graber. When we we're going to we're going

with a very very Fier Paco. It was a woman

that said that was that was a really not

not really. He had statues of demonios and the

santa death. For that when we we had

a a guy the was he was and

he was to make to with the with

the the Okay. The she was because we we're at and we

let's go when we we're when we went and and it was to gore because

no no we're not we're that they're saying and that was being famous that curable

with the Virgen Maria arrodigied and under some statues of the demonios and of the santa

and was When we started to gore, immediately we started to hear disparos. Disparo, no, I see if

of the same of the same, we're on the carmionette in the which we came and so, and so,

and, what was what had passed, we started to to in us lejos. Now,

so, now, it was the terrain, the camionet, the, the,

how to to go out of there, after two kilometers to have recorded this

place, we're we're and we're and we're and we're what was what had

passed in that that was what had occurred days before? Why not

not we had been to get to that the place? Who

no I wanted to get us to that because

they've sacrificed a person very very And all we all We all the same conclusion

that the sacrifice to the person was the curandera famous and that really not was what the community believed, the that curable with

the Virgin Mary. For that is very important to understand or know how we said at the beginning with what

deities is that pacting, with what deities they are curating really is with God with the Virgin Mary or

after of them there is there's there. And over all that not they

are doing like to do you to do you to do you. Fidate that's so I

remember this story me that was a person who was I don't I remember

if this part that's kept in the video because there partes

that sometimes I have to get to a video for

very interesting and very good that's I have to get to

it to get to it because it's very And you know the people how is the thing in these

politics, and they're not why censors so? Why? Because there's a group great after

of this. And so much people live and what we are doing. We don't we can't risk it.

But one person me said that there was a an a this was a

personer. That was that was that was to support in the partos of the

women. But strangely in the partos where she was was involved or

was there present and strangely in the those the

first they're in the life. That's death of this and this and the

other, so, like, and that the people of this hospital that's

in Mexico like they're like, they're like they didn't they're

not they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're

they're they're they're and you a person that enter to to work also

of a unfermere something because he said that this woman and I

remember what was what was if it was the other other I don't

I don't I want I'm not I'm but I'm more demoniac

and this woman offendable to these babies and she she

did discover her He was able to see her when she, even-nac-nac-nac-nac-nac-nac-nace the new, she'll get a new a woman, like, he'll beauntary, and she'll prepare.

This woman, what he said is that those affixiava. And he'd say, Doctor, is that he'd, he'd go to restirate. Those reanimated, they'd give us in the peaches,

but the nene, he had losted to the life. So, this infirmary, so did know of this, and there

there's a confrontation, but after this confrontation, there's an amazza, well, a menace of death for this person that discover, that has to have to do, have to renunciar, because no was a one single person. So, like, there was a group behind, and it was very risgoso

if this person was about exactly everything, all of what I had seen. So, I remember much of that, you say, there's, there's a story like you see in this channel, and yeah, no, so, are things that are, so, are things that are, they're, they really,

busking these stories or these news in your booker, not are stories that are actually, are in many

places. That in this moment can be passing. In this moment, it can be

going to be going to be going, and not only in Mexico, at the long of

America Latina. Why? Because we, because we in America Latina are given

to this culture, the culture of the senators, the culture of the curanderers, of the chamanes,

and that I'm to say I'm to recalcar, with what deities they're pacting, that they're that they're

not they're and that you can't be a lot of that's very macabro. That's great. Herman,

I want to you this ultimate story. This that I'm going to tell not is

any story, it's a testimony of a person that was with me, that's It's a lot of time.

But this story I decided to tell her in this channel because invulucra a curandera but invulcra

something that's this story occurred here in this city, in Tuxtepec. This

chico me does his testimony. I titled this story as

a reincarnated. So, that I keep titular. What us

there is a guy with I'm talking to he is the

locutor of radio. And me one of the things more of the things more

that the albañis that's dedicated first to make the and prepare the

where she was going to get to this house that's going to discover

that in the piece or in the earth had restos human so

there were there were of people and they're that

the people when they're they they're much fear

they're so it's that no one they're various

and for as a pediment or as the other albañil he said you know well

there's no no there's more you know it's more you can't let us make in problems

legal if we we're we don't we need us in problems etchallet tear

and oral it was what they did they're they're they're those

those wosos there they're they're prepared they've they've

they've put around the house. Well, when the house is you know, after the year after a year, this family

had been his wife. Yeah, the young, was growing, minesse, adolescence, adultess. But what is the little? The little, since that was very, very

little, mentioned that she saw in her house, a woman with a vestido black, something like like the Yorona, that caminaba, that they'd beaambulando for all the house,

the night. The little bit of to have a secondation to her because no he had a fear, but the parents said that her

began to have changes like of humor, like of temperament, it was a little bit more aggressive, but as being people

that don't in the thing paranormal, well, they don't the importance that this needs.

The new is growing, it's And he was adulta, but he says that in his age of adult, there's a yeah,

he'll diagnosticsoprenia. Because he said that in that house, I mean many things that obviously his papas not, and

they said, no, well, I think my daughter is a thing, and well, they diagnostics, and what

and what happens? One day, simply they're going to find a this chick colgada in one of let's

pilares of a biga in a biga he's a murder but she decided

to get to the life with the vestido of the with the she was going to

get to this is a scandal imagine the no how is possible

and decided to do do the and the best to

the years, he nace this chico, and this, and,

and, then, he's his old and his father's, he had been made

a fortune, yeah, they've made of the house, he had been

had been in the past, do you, dole, it's, he's, he says

he, he he's, he's, he's, he, he started to see,

he'd be to be this woman, how came about, and I was watching

the television, and it was like here in the rabies of the eye the silhoueta and not it's just

literally the woman, the woman, the be you see as to pass to a other.

And he said that he he was a fear but at the time, like he made a

feeling a kind of a little familiar, you know, I'm a sustra but not

so. And he says that his papas, this they're so they

say, I'm, I'm, I'm, my parents me they'd say that I had

friends imagineries. I'd be they're talking solo, and playing solo.

For this I've had a patio very great with games and said always he's always

always but the way they're going to always always going to like

if someone me were pursuing like if I really really

and I said my people and I said I was and I

said I'm the problem is that then the changes in

the changes as the process of her brother she

started to repeat. He said there times where there was a family,

mom, and pap sates in the sofa. He of eight years

had, he was he said, and he had to urin the

feet and to be there and his mom, oh, what you what you

say, I don't mean, I don't remember, I'm just I'm remember

when my papa me abofeteable you do you say, but why you're you're trying

but I saw my my body I saw that I had done but in the moment what he said

what he he was the boffeta of his and also he was he was made with his mom

and said my mom had in the sofa I go and my papa me

he was with my hand and mechones that I he were

to my mom and one of one of that I did you get to pick

to the eye and I said I guess I'm my mother of a

On the, these are these tigieras that are the ones that used the abuelitas, pointiaguda, he piqued above to the loo to his mom. And, what he does reactionar to him

is the gulpe of his papa. And other again, he's he, you know, and his papa, imagine it. So,

no, so, not. Then, then, then, then, people of what they're doing is, well, I'm,

to, I'm, to black. And this started to repeat. It's, he said, that he'd envied with psychologists, and

every time that the psychologist about him, he said, is that I, I don't I remember. Yeah, for this, he had 10 years, he was aware of all, and he said to the psychologists, is that I don't remember nothing of what I do. How, how not you're going to

remember that you, agarras, and he said that, of course, orinable, over the food that he was served in the mess, and he was he was, he said, that his dad, he said, all the time to his mom,

is that this chaman will learn, the figure will learn and say but my mom knew

that I mean I'm a lot of but my papa no crue in nothing of this

he said so the mom and then the mom consultal he said

a and he he was present what is a not a new

is something is something that is something more more more

more because the energy that was an energy was a

family and this and this not the woman said

the curandera this what he's what he's he's

he has a other he and said that

the she said like, wow, how do you know, how do you? He says, what I'm what I'm doing?

Because what I'm doing is that or he's going to die or he's no, it was a

woman, and effectively yeah, yeah, he's, well, I only can say that

I can say that this child, because his his he's going to

in months, so in months I see, I see, I see,

he's Suppone that what happened there is that by middle of the woman,

there was a very very strong spiritual with this entity. At the having a

person a familiar of a line sanguina like a brother,

when the woman decided to go to this world, there had a

view family. For so the he said I was that I didn't

me never a I don't of that me I'm doing

and make things, I'm a lot of but I'm really, he was he was

that he had a little a little a position, but so like

an opression an opres an influence. It's that the woman he said

that they were to work much with him not not was a

little we know it was a series of liberations a bunch of things. He says that the

woman, every time that had to do this, a man, he was a suddata, but in the sudor,

can't have a lot, and he said that all the time, and he said to you have to do this

because if not his son his son going to get. After of various days,

the the new by many of many of many many times he

did desprenderson. He says that in that then he said to the woman how I'm going to pay

the curandera. And the curandera and says, no, nothing. How? What?

I mean, what? No, no, no so this is my mission. Curar, sanar,

a, to your son, no, no, don't you don't. They say,

they're going, but they're not, we're going to go, and we're going to give to do this

something. He said they were a month. He said, my mother, and he he said,

We went with my mother to a center commercial very famous here in Tuxpeg we did make a dispense grandissima

friol, leech, rice, rice, food, a lot of things, and we

did we all this to our vehicle and we went to the house of the house.

Valle surprise, brother. The woman had two days to have

died. And that said the person that now lived in his house,

that was one of his kids. What happened? And they are the woman

in their own own life? Obviously how? No, know, no, know how

was. The woman per die. The mom of this child,

he said is that he said, this woman me said a little so,

she, she was, or she is your son or me I'm more you.

And he said, I did importance because like, no say,

or any commentio, no I think that were real. The

senior, the curandera, literally, I mean, he gave his life for the little.

She said that was a not a casualty. I mean, I was to get a

little he would costed the life. And it and he didn't

want to do you didn't, I'm going to do you need to that. That's

what is a reality that live the people that we dedicated to the sanation, to the spiritual,

to the expulsion of demonies, how are the liberations or the exorcisms. Paco, for us, when it comes

a person and comes with some problem, yameless the indole that is, every

that we consult us as we're a bell. That veil of the time to bring them

is going to be consuming and it has a caducity and when you have

a caducid and get a case a case that's

that you're to come to and there is

where we know we're that we don't we are

not we're mortals but but we have to

have the love to accept to the ultimate

suspiro to those cases and to give the

men I I question to Christian suppose this is an example pass in many

years but you get to top with a job with a very hard of that nation and you know by the middle of your santo or you, your spirit you know

that probably if you're going to help you, you know, you do you do you do? Help it? Because it's your mission. It's your mission your vocation. If you don't

you're helping, you're going, you're going to another and I think that this life is a

man, to serve. And the that no serve, the who not serve to the

progimo, no serve to live. So, of some way you you're going to be

to do and how beautiful that you die serving. I can you can

in these months I've had to parer some situations for questions

of health. But, without I've continued working some

I'm know where it my body, I see where no.

But we have to serve. Now with this case, I think what I

transmit certain similitudes to what I'm living in this moment.

So, so it's a vocation hermosa. That's all and all there all there all there

and all of all they're that the power that they are not God, the universe

who can want to they're they're they're for a because I want to

tell the last story. Adelante brother. And seeate that it

has to be with something that actually not all the

people use to be a person a person very very

very an amma of a house, with kids, and a major, and that she had with the heart destroyed, because his mario, in a moment, to other, was, he, of, to love her, he got to have, to have aggressions physical.

When she had a count of what was what was happening, well, he called much the attention, but when she did count it was because she was all in the nodded. When she began to discover her, she, me, that was a family

very beautiful, with four children, all studying, all, university, were a family of abolengue,

and a much money, and the marid is always amoroso, the senior doctor. Imagine a doctor, the

capacity economic that had and the question amorosa and scientific that they can have they,

and we we're to the same. The doctors are not credent

of the world paranormal, nothing credent of the world esoteric.

But in the relation laboral, it's a country to work

to work to work to work but is that this was that was very

special because apart of being a person, was a curandder.

Okay. And apart of to do work of charity, well

also also a little negative. And is that because

he's that family and he did know of the solvency

that had of the power that this person in the

hospital he he he to get to give

food, pastels, chocolates and and since that this

begins to have a change repentino, a change totally different to the spouse. It's going

to be good, and it's to be maltratos, and it has to have that

negative to this woman. When you know the woman of that

something was going was because his marido had a relation sentimental

amorous with this when really he jured and perjurva that the most important for his life, was their children, was her husband

and it was his question laboral because there was a high grader paco that he would be that the superiors they were to

go to the hospital because there was something with the personal and it was a prohibitive in this hospital because

it was an hospital private that this question of scandals and of questions mediatics. When the

senior starts to investigate, she does know that this person, the tessitos

and the things that were to marrara to his husband. When he got

a and we started, and she came with me, consult us and we

know we know that the bruja, apart of the infirmer, was the

mom of the mother. Wow. It was the curandera of a

important in Guadalajara, and it was the that prepared the things for that his daughter had a position economic and a good with someone that had a dinner. At the grade that the Lord's going to live with her, he'll leave to her husband, and

she's going to live with this infirmary. When we started to do liberations and a job of rompiment, what is what, so is it's called, to to romper those malifices, automatically the Lord will go

to the but he said to his wife that in the transcurso to go to go to

in those days he he started to have many diarras and that the

diarras and the vomitos that he had were like like balls

of bloods and and that when he he called much the attention

was when when What was what he was being a medical that something he thought that he thought that he thought

the worst but when he saw this pastos and to talk it with a palito in the taser

and discover that it was like if was a card like if were a paper to

and see guusannos he he's assus he he he says this is not in my

mind because no is logical Sure. So, he started

that in the nights when he was he was he had the

dormido, the man, the woman, the woman, he

had to the and he had orders. But what you think?

How there someone that was that was a time,

those that he had to be to this person and

not can be heard by the spirit or

the soul of this person and automatically she was reveled.

The deja and automatically the exhisto is transformed. Today I you can say that

that will and is there is the infirmary. For that's very important and it

is very love to the community to have much care of the amarrs.

Tener much care with who do you want to say and only

they're to be able to is that many times the amarrado not is the person that

is doing the amarr, the that's mandatings the armarer, but you that's paying you.

Because there will be a caducid and that's a caducid and that's going to you're going

to make you to pay me, the person is going to be able to if someone is down that they're

doing and lastimating. Sure, and over to be concerned that if that person

is able to many times, for you that's a goal. A goal

a good. Very very. Imagineate, Paco, and you know, you know,

how many people have the don't, they have the possibility to sanar, to cure, they have

that access to the world spiritual, but not all they can use for

good, like in this other case that I told, you, because,

they're they're the access to get a benefit economic. That

great, and is that's that I do, I It's still passing. PAS and still

passing in all parts. So, people who abusant of the power, of the position,

and the adeptos that they have to do this type of things, and also

part of the ignorance of the people who not do they, accept a proposal

without to get to think to think to make to the person. So I

would be that way so much careful if a extrao you propone

something because you know what damage you can get to your brother,

what a episode, how interesting, how you know, how you know, a good, I'm sorry to be

to always to be in your community, and share it's always that I'm invited you to be able

to narrate and to talk a little some honor for us and I don't

say, Christian and I know if you may let's say it Yes,

sure. Christian is here with us. Accepted our invitation, but also Christian is

traversing a process of health that you just did you do public in your social and

pence to all that I want to thank you to give for favor to all the community

that there are in the social of Christian for that they're to write to you

they're to give you and who do you can put in contact with Chris in the

social officials of much careful, because also not the pinch

charlatan that that's always a question of the image of the other people,

but be at the media the media social and they're in the description of this episode

for that you can you can support, you can't visit, see your work,

because also has a project where they are going to be able to be

to be in that episode. Christian, am I know, thank, so, thank you

thank you thank you to the community for all is a more, that in this trajectory, that for many, is a

castigue, and that much we can't say, no, is that an infirmatement is a castigo of God. For me, it's

a lection of life, and that lection of life, I got it with love. Thanks to the community,

too, for that all those benditions that I've made out of, here we're making us. Emano,

muchismas. Family, thanks to all of all. For forward, don't forgets, before

to get to subscribe to channel. Activar notifications. If you listen, in Spotify, there is a buttoncito that says to continue, pickle, and a continuation, I'll go the adeloant of what Christian

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I want to show to the people how identify charlatans, how to identify really when it's a good sanator, a good curandero, a good broo, and that not they're in stafar.

Imagine, my, he said, after that, you don't have cancer, you don't have nothing.

15 days after, I'm in a time of hospital. And I go, no, it's that, no, is that not not crean in all the bruchos that are you, because they can stafarles, I mean, I get an amazza.

We have to have a much careful in who we put our faith, in who we're going. In who we go?