EXTRA ANORMAL - La Iglesia y el Gobierno me Quisieron Callar por Revelar Información Ft Christian Valerio

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

En este emocionante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, contamos con la presencia de Christian Valerio, quien nos relata su asombrosa historia sobre cómo la iglesia y el gobierno intentaron silenciarlo por revelar información crucial. Christian nos lleva a través de sus experiencias más impactantes y las revelaciones que sacudieron a las autoridades. No te pierdas esta intrigante conversación llena de misterio, valentía y la búsqueda incansable de la verdad.Canal de mi invitado:  @Videntechristianvalerio 

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to see you enalda you you have you see the error you're

you you have you And he He says, you're going to a good exorcist. You know,

we have to to do you study demonology. They're they opting to send me to the demonology to

a course with the Pad Gabriel Amor. I'm to know when you

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do come with me Chris San Valer the Nile of the Luz. How are you? Very content to

to be able to share the microphone with you know, we're going to practice of many things that I know

that you're going to impressionar. Perfect, if the people if the people knew what has passed, of really

that is something that's something that's a man, I'd like that we'd give us

a context of what is what is what what's what I'm that's I've

sent you a person a energy a lot strong. It's rather to resaltar that the

presence that is not as a phantom but it's like a question demoniac. So,

they're they're going to make the lights, no, no, they're not they're

doing, so this questions get to happen when a person and you

you're going to get to talk when you when you get to interview to

start a exorcism, we, we're we're we're doing, when you

you present, when you have an authority about the demonio, the demonio starts to have fear. We don't let us fear to the demonia. The demonio

us has fear to us or what we represent us in the earth. Sure. Erman, before to start two things,

the first, if one is subscribed to the channel, I invite to you to subscribe, that you see you to

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I would like that you present Who are you? What do you And your Redes? Who is Christian Valerio? Chrison Valerio is better known as a little

to the Luce because from the five years I've been Muredos I'mpec with the famous Amigito

Imaginario My papas me left with the psychiatrist with the psychologist they were

more than I'm more than you because they were saying you know your your son

your son you know definitive of the Kinder to the primary was

A infancy very very for me because I was a child that was

totally away of the other I don't I'm with people and I

could say but I had said I'd say they said that they they were they were

so they were they were putsion the little calaver because

they said that I said that they were not didn't be used a problem in the

kinder and they they're the attention to my papas. So, those

were the master that they were the people who had to give me with a psychologist

because I was and I'm and they're going to get to get to the psychologists

until that a psychiatrist to say my mom yeah no we can

make more more studies I'm from after middle

primary and your he's totally well it's there's the

possibility of that you have a spirituality. Look at a Bruch, a

sacerdote, or who you want to be where you're where your where your child, where your

father localize a priest who in Guadalajara Jalisco, that I'm from Guadalajara, he's

dedicated to the world spiritual, to serve nations, but that temple was very special

because that temple was of a question of cristeros. So, it was a

place where the Cristero get them and they they were when they when they

get a sacristia I don't remember really this me he's a certain

questions to the sacerdote that I that I see in that and I

said I'm a woman that I see a and see a man

and I see a he's he said he's he's he's he's

he's he's local the people in the question in the

question of So they, for the regular, they don't believe in the of the paranormal. The sacerrote he said, no, is that your son,

because in this place we have two groups of a pair of christeros. To the woman they were and to the

person who was soldado, he gave him the time, they're doing a man, he said, my dad,

that were the two cryptas to say, I said, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a car

of your because your has a daughter. So, from there they started to make some certain tests, he said,

look, if you don't crees in this, to do one to do you to get to your house, I'm in a

carnet, and then to your son, to play with who says the guy, he says, he says,

he says, oh, hey, is, hey, he's, well, he said, I said I , I've got,

the ball and when he said, my papa, see, my papa, see, is that he

doesn't, because you me is going, because you me's being, my papa he was

going to but I saw but I'm a little and I went and my my papa see how

he was going to see how I'm without a inclination so my my

father of there I'm to see a certain activity yeah more

more in the house from the seven years I'm

I'm with this sacerdote that he started to

to see the eyes to see to how

to visualize the points where the people can

be being in this case more to the church and then he's the overnomer

of the new in the law in that there's there was those cameras we're

digital were of those of so the people so it's strange that in the

misas of the person a man who they're and they they're to make

to make photos and when they're they're they're they're so they're

they're they're saying oh yes when they're the Sanation. The Missa of the Sanation where there's

a man who that's a man who's a little there's a man who said, oh, and the

little that's in the parroquia of that's, then then they know that the little the light

was where was the sacerdote so that there is where he's the name of

the name of the new the light. From the seven years, I'm to do

sanation to the 14 years mourn this sacerdote but this sacerdote me

inculka or me to a monastery, in this case, a monastery to make me to get to

that I were a sacerdote. Of that he's encargo to other sacerdote

of my seguient and he he says, you know, you have all the don't know,

you have all the characteristics but yeah me started to pass

many things, Maco. Negativa? Very negative. I, I,

yeah, I not only only only I'm dead. I've

a presence very very with the question that had to be

with the demon. I remember one a night when I was after

the Santissimo because as a day a day for

complete to get to and I'm so so

I was and I I'm to be to be to come the

time to be at the five at the five daudes and

then for the activities correspondents. I was in a moment of ecstasy when I went to be

the ventana that was like a patio, it was something of the most terrorific that I could have

lived. Be a car like a monster that not only was that was

like that was the crystal when I started to be that I

never I never had never had had been me went directly to

the altar I got the Santissimo, me inke, he, I braced when I went to see the relop of the capillar

at the three of the morning. So I'm my eyes, I'm going to and I'm to do you

for me were seconds. When I am I'm feeling that I'm and I spanked

and I abrace more of the Santissimo. When I abro the eyes, it was because

the brother me said, hey, don't talk in the campana and not

the five, are the 7 in the morning. For me, for me, were seconds when not

had been two seconds. Yeah, I've been been made and I'm and I'm and I

know, and I never said that I'm a major, to a surerote major, and he said, you're going

to be a exorcist. And he says, you know, we have to get to to do you

study is demonology. Okay. They opting for mandars to study demonology to a

course with the Pad of Gabriel Amor. I took to know to know the Pad of Gabriel Amor because it was to pay practically your course.

In fact, still there's the school Vatican where you, you like, today, you know,

like you, you can't pay this course that three months and you can't the demoniology. But to me

took it still the honor to have as a pastor to the father Gabriel Amor that in

the I think of the selectors I don't know that I would be and the

of Gabriel Amor me he gets to one of his habitations and me to make

to do all the he's he got to talk about many things

and I start various bases when I when I go to the

city of Gualajara to Mexico you you have

all the characteristics to be a certain the

most young but with those don't we we

have we have done certain things that I

I decided to get me from a church for a situation very

very very much I'm that I'm I'm not I'm going to help

to help to the people I think I'm going to help more

to for a thing for the the church was decalien

in that in that in that moment and that I'm that I can't

know what is what is what is I'm I'm you I'm

what more can be aberrancy in the life. Okay. Be,

ver, that they they're and they're a infant. Okay. So, so when

when you get to an infant and that they're saying, yeah. Callate as

as a cuddate as a man, for that you can you can be able to

be a so then so then so. So, then I do, I'm

can't but also I want to want to be sacerdote. Because if I'm like to docile as

socio like those that there, maybe so. So, definitely me salvo. And so was how I started to help to help to the people. From there,

still not me they were, and to me say, oh, yes, many sacerdotes in Gualajara me knew, and they were,

they're not because they're so, you, because do you do you, the omilia, if not you're not,

I said, well, to say, well, they'd to say, all, they'd

to say, they'd convocatoria that I had that's a don't to have the people then I said I'm if I get to order to

fall to all this people and more because I'm saying I'm saying I'm don't make so I'm I'm saying

I'm going to integrate me a little to the religion that I think is the palom mayombe the santaia

and I'm to cultivate a little more my don't and it's when I'm I'm put to the service

of all the people I have a brother. Since the new, creases with those

racies Catholic and you do you make a idea in general that's

that's that many people when this change or this transition

to other religion because the the Uruba those are

other religion with different so can say people

that not to be that not with the God

Christianism Catholicism how was that chock of ideas of to quit a chip and put another. There's like

there's a little of conflict or something. Fiatte that no, because at final of you know, if you does count,

all you will get a or all to have a way to have to have to put us to think, all the cultures,

all the religions, he put in a number. But all they're going to get to get to the

letter to the same that is the way of the salvation and of the that's So, so I think not in a

God that has a institution. I think in a God that you're going to save, that has love, and that you're going to protect. So I found that in the religion as a Catholic, in this case,

not as an institution, but as a deity, and I've got that God of love also in other religion like the Yoruba and as the aleria. In this case,

it could contradicts a contradictsion a a little, because you say, oh, yes, but it's that they're saying that's brewery, because you're doing sacrifices, animals. Well, it's that if we're going to the Antivostoment, we'll talk

of sacrifices. If we're going to the misa, we're going to a ritual. So, no was so raquitical, because really, within of the demonology, in the question of the

church, you know, the question of the rituals. And the rituals, well, are the the same that we're in a ceremony

Yoruba of a really you can't do you know you know if you know

you know the basis fundamental in God and do the things so there no

there was so there would be a shock more if I

would have got where I'm okay I'm a

question I I'm in your religion actual exist the

demons with the name or they have and they're different.

Look, in the religion of the santares is called Iqu. So it's very different the how

they're doing to how they're in the church Catholic. So, they are changing the names.

It's the same as the same. In this case, the Jews also the other name

for Satanas, but we'll go to the same. So, that's obscurity is black and

so definitely if you you have a base and you have a scale you're going to

know how you're going to do you but for me definitive the start in my religion me has

occasioned that I've got more an upertura to help look at this this side

so of all the people that I've interviewed that are santaeros have had been

experiences for me in the personal of the most the most the

most when you when you you need let me what was the first

that you you've you've yeah this side. Fiatty that

when I'm I'm I'm start liberations because you know

the word exorcism the word exorcism is totally now now

so after the battle the liberations I think it

was a liberation that was that was that was that he was the in the

o'clock of the media because I'm because I come after

my start in this case of I'm going to work in the media of

communication but not at front, but not in this case of assistant of production and things like

and in Guadalajara Halisco me met in a state of Azteca and there was to form a

for there a project paranormal so then he says and says oh yes there's

there's there's there's there's in a monastery and you do you

would be to collaborate with us if you So, no, because me going to demand well, we can't talk with questions

like if it were a liberation. I said, but it's that never has done. You know, that's what we're doing? Ah, that's what you

do one? I said, but how do you do it? No, it's that in vivo, it's that in vivo, no, it's very dangerous.

It's very so. Me convincedio, it was, the Nama, the only that I put to pretext was,

not we do do in live and other we're going to admit various things if

the patient don't want to see to see to his rost she was a

person because it was a case I had a person of a person

a person that's a person who vows and canes out of a parroquia but

pacta with satanas for fame fortune and women

so imagine a person that has a machete of a personia imagine in chaos

and out of out of a parroqui then I pass in the case to me I'm I'm going to

do exorcisms to this person liberations in this case and when me said of this program

we want to I'm going I'm going I'm going but I need but I need to talk with the

sir if he can the he says the general I'll say if this I'm

if this is like that more people intends that not it's

that you start, we'll be to make sure that the conductor of the program

interview to where that's that's that said that you have surprised

an exorcism that we didn't me mention I don't no I don't but

it was of the more the most that we've because I

was I was I'm common and doing the exorcism but

see the car of him when the person begins sangar

to the front and the eyes and they're to get to see

seven voices of your of your garganta and it's with a

lot fettido horrible and I would and I was a pavour

and he had a person a and the and the

and the woman was she I said see be you

you're you you're you're you she don't just

just just not just just of the Hittos, no? So, so there

me I did know that much people not have the people,

because are more more characters of the television that really the television, that I'm

I'm not, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going, the exorcism, it's

there, there's to say, those start to say, those emmised, emitiered

they, those, that class of things that then they've started what the

thing they had said, the of the media of communication like they're

like they're like and they're like the men me said they're

with us if we're going to get to you after that I think of the

more that also apart of the exorcism me to get to talk

as evident and in this in this case can't canalis

more to be I'm I'm I think I've encountered people

that have fallen have fallen in a manner Yeah, they'd have many years of that no they'd have been, jolene, a disorder in Guadalajara

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but that but the people or their family no know that they're that they're rescindier or who not are vivos was a problem legal or a problem

of security that you had to you've you're going to you're going to let's go to talk but

just I'm about the theory of that when a person die of that's kind of

in the space or time and no can't go to and it's constantly repiting

the moment of his death. Definitely we we call descannos because

because they're because they're in a piece between the earth and the spiritual

so so as they're a and in the spiritual they're with a part carnal

so as they're in a part carnal but they're they're they're to us as we're going

to appear as people as they're like they were mutated if they were di-charos if they were

all that class of psychatrices in a body so they're going to appear

and they're to have at the same hour the same the same

the same other again repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, for an

eternity until that they don't they're disprend to the plan

that you don't then so in this point they're many

to say not me go to so so it's to

understand that not is your plan many many so

so are those are those are the are those

we're those don't are demons, are personitas that were in this plan spiritual, because according to monos that the demonians are, not are terrenals, but this

class of demons, if they're in this plan, but are some almas regegas, of having seido. And I'm trying to understand much to these almas, because are ones that are people who are that many times have the odio

and that no-se-as-a- or help, to be able to desprended that that's that's that's going to be

that's okay, it's when we're that the bottle of yeah, it's,

it would be to, I'm, call the attention. Yeah, for who is an event Poltergeist but for

someone who wants to want to hear your attention and want to communicate many times something.

And that something is I'm asking the help because we're we're not we're

we're not they're not they're so much times is to to have the

mission that they they're inconclusive It's the moment that you know that

that's a anecdote that he put in a pregetos and not for

a question of people about talking yeah of other situation Yeah

fiat that in a occasion I getting to my consultor

get a person common and a current and me

he'd a get to and me said I did you

I did a letter but I don't I I want to

to help you to discover where is my son my son my son has seven years

disappeared I'm I'm know my my he's he's yeah

he's I know really you know but I want to know where you

see the car of the woman of the really is difficult it's difficult and I

think also of the most beautiful that we we can resolve a

to say, a woman, there's your son. Then you know, you know, you know, and you know, you know, give a pass to a woman

know where is his child, and have still like the false experience, of the same, when I'm, when I'm going to

get to know, I'm going to help, I'm conscious that you're going to say to the more things that not you

want to give to this time to this time to what you do you guys. We've got to canalize,

the she said, I said, but no has been really, to the CMEFO, they said, no, is that all the Lunez, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, in this case, of people disappeared, of MADGES, desaparcedas,

a WhatsApp, and all the Monday we're present us, we're the same bodies, it's the same dolor, are the same photos, and no no resolve anything. Okay, we're going to do the canalization. The

she had a parent to his and he I'm to be a your

but no he's a man who he's a little a tattooing in the

tattooage that's so so when I'm when I write

the she and she is my he's my but immediately

he's to get a an the thing that the she's

a chloroform and he oh yes it It's like Like, you Is that

That's the aroma That's the aroma of the AMEFO. I said, is that really not are the

MFO and they say, no. It's that has been many times and it's that I

see, what I can't perceive is like if was a line very, very,

very, very large, like if were a cabin of trailer. I said, but there

many people and they they're people they're, but who they're like if

they're they I said, for me are like doctors medical or or I said I don't think they're

people that they're in the case I think they're like they're like they're a question

where you go to see there's a because for me it's like a cabin

of the she's she's a quiet a at the

days he's to I'm he said Christian much thanks

yeah he recupered my he had a carina a carina

and they have many corpses there. So, the senior came with me

and he platica how's the issue personally and says I said, I said,

I said, I want to see, I want to see a there's a no, no, no,

no, there's a and no there's a person of intendententia the person,

she has there, go, go, by the part of back at and there

there are there there's there they're there they're they're that they

don't when they when they is a scandal Yeah, Pied, they're

they're they're they're and they're many people that were a scandal in Guadalajara

and they they're and at the final of the trailer one of the couples

that was there was that was the of the daughter like he he had a brazo

yeah was in a state very feo I think seven years

no yeah the she was obviously is an scandal

he comment to the other people say, who's, who's, who's, who said, who's,

I was, I was, I'm going with a person, that I'm doing the data.

De Verda, I got a day, my consultory and were many mothers

outside. Yeah. It's, it's very doloros to be to be a

mom that I put a photographia and that to tell Paco, where is

my my son. Yeah. It's like a moment where that

that's DOLOR of a mother You Traspa So, So, then say to

a mother This his he's he's he's of the real,

this is of the trailer and to say to the momas those

of the trailer and back there me put again,

he's who's who's who you who's who they're saying, so why

not because for that so for that's then it was a scandal

of the famous trailer because it For that the media not they were and the

women were to be a scandal and they were to recover the people of their kids and for there a

woman said we've been with a vident. So, yeah Maria they had said my

name and there someone from the very up he said oh well they're

a day to my consultorio tomb and they're and they're they're and they

say or you can't because if not then it can be

and there casuality that the that the life to be the

people be the to to give to your career so I took

a men a menace like saying then we are to adjudic to

you and you see you and then what was we did let us

call us and from we put a filter to put us so

imagine to you of a church, where they're saying, no you can't suck demons,

no you can do this, see a situation or a fea, go in this case, like, or want to say,

no you can't do this, because if not you're going to be a problem, it's it's, it's really,

yeah, to do you need to your integrity. But at final of the countas,

if we have seen doing, if we've seen doing some things for there to be

to help to the to the madges or or to find fascines that is of the

most beautiful to help to help a mom to take a person. What desperante

and what impotency the the fact to get to get to an institution sacred

and institutions public that are at the service of the people and topart

with these barriers where if you see you you have

you see you danger. If you're if you're about of one, if you're to talk call you, they're unfortunately

that's the reality and although a many people and it's because when we're going to talk about that

that person that more to have a great to generate a fanatism and say no, no, no you're

you're not, you're you you're doing the devil, you this, you're this, you're and the

reality is that I I've said, the institutions led by women eventually are going to

corrupting. So, in this case, for example, yeah, you know, you know,

you're doing it's independent, you do do you do things, let me, let me get

to the thing paranormal. Helpando people, looking to do something,

mentioned about a lot, that's a lot of people that get for a letter of

cards, and result that they're they're something influence, demoniac or something.

Tell us something of this, I'm sure. Fiatty that the most that was

a person that came of the United and went to a letter of a cardas

that's that's that I'm going to happen many many things, I'm at the

most embrujada and palos when we're to make to do the

letter to do I'm I'm looking and I'm he's not you

don't have done you doorming no you don't you What does this, this or the other? And you've been with the psychologist?

No, well, that's that. What, you've said to your psychologist? No, well, me did, nothing more things to do things to do. And me said, that was with the psychiatrist for that me said to the recipe. Okay. I said, and you're not.

Me, you're going to do you? No. Cere your ojitos. When I seeer the oration of liberation, boom. So, there's a trance, the a man Uh-huh.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. It was an exorcism that we grew around six hours. Six hours? Six hours.

Where I was where I saw how they painted symbols to a person in his, in his

stomach. Simply, I'm very can't, the day of yesterday, we took a liberation.

Ayer? The day of year in the night here in the city of Mexico. And no,

and I'm resaltar that me surprised because it was a person

that's a lot of the religion in this case in the santeria a person

a person major we call them a those people to these

people that they have a know and that when I know

I'm I'm saying oh but how you to start in the religion

to study this right because you're not they're they're

not they're saying you're saying we're we're so, we want

that you do you do the exorcism and we do we do we do the day of

yesterday simply was a person a godita and when he had

putto the sir he was like if if had

been barasas and if if they were so

he move that horrible the stomach that that

so that me horrible really it was it was

it was it I said, this sir he's going to move to

from a part of the cariaco because I see how they're to move the manita

directly to the heart and I'm I'm going to get a prisa if not this demon

he's going to let me know that that's a demonio because it's like

invocals the name the name of a person yeah specific more of three

three times you know you know you look to identify the name

of it you you you're a good exorcist the first you're going to do you're this ent is

to ask him the name of God the name so that you know the then so you know you

know you see you know because in this lapso you know you know you know the father of the

mentira you're saying I'm lucifer I'm satanass and really not is so how

you do you do you ask parentificing when they're playing with you, and they're minting. Because they're characteristics. The demonios have certain characteristics.

Uh-huh. Look, there are demons flojos, and I see what, and I say, and I'm, you know, no, you know, no, so, you don't me going to, you know, to

be a, a huger in the book, and I see what oration I have to do to do, in when you, in-cant- you, and the, the demonio's and then you start to put aggressive,

you know, here is where the, I think the doubt of many people say, oh, the water bendita, sana and avientela,

no, the water we use them to provoke. You, abiental to a un-possessian water-bendita and it will

have to be a reaction. So, when the demonio is done, you have to incit to get to

get aggressive. Because when you're just when you're going to start to say, the a very personality.

While he's done and you are going to start to start a to get a question, but yeah when

it's aggressive he's a real realer personality because there's the moment when you start to get

to get to say things that maybe to do you want to do you're to give a bad

or that you're going to destroy morally yeah because me has done to talk

demons where you're where you're you're going to you're to get to me and to be

to be to be to be to take to this, or you're going to pass this, and then you'll

pass and you say, if you get a need, the demonio then it's a pegatty. That's what

what he passed to Gabriel, a Gabriel all the time he was pursuing a demonio.

What is what has been to me have persecuted one, but I don't put attention. I always I always

me plant on a place and I think I think I'm someone I'm more that's God,

is the Lord, and apart to all the deities with the I've worked to this

moment. When you're doing this exorcism a year practically the night

how culmined fulmino? Fiatty that me I'm like to make

experimentes I'm characterized for not to do exorcism normales that I

take the demonio and I'm I'm like to connect them to get

in a little in a in a bottle a bottle or let in a

bottle I me l'enew Gabriel. A Gabriel he liked, in the film, they sacerone something of him, that is true. Gabriel, Amour. Gabriel, Amour, he was to experimenter this class of things, and he was to make to the demons if really

were actually they were posthalienable in animals. And he liked much the herds, because he said, that in the Bible, well, the cerdos are susios. So, then to Gabriel he liked much, met them in elements, and it was

something that I gotre much of him. So, I mean, me like much embottellers and let them in the spejoes and then

make them a ceremony to launch them to get them when this demonio starts

and I'm to start because it had to be very rapid because I felt

that the he was going to get a paro cardiac we we

we'll encaderms the we're we dishees of the we're

the the sir that the sir that we did the the sir we was in a

more aporriated like if it had been an operation. The people that was the guy was the person

if the person if they were the people were when I got to look very dilatated as like if were practically

druged because the eyes were very but it was like a calm there's when you says how beautiful

how much you did you for example there I have a good and I'm I'm sorry

you you're for example palero you dedicate to the paloma but the moment to do

this ritual of liberation occupies the things that you've been before apart there are the others

that are a mixclas or like occupies one and other depending the kind of the case

no I'm for the exorcisms me for the statutes in this case that me

they're in the simple and simply and simply to me me have shown

that the statutes that are in the church are the are the are the most powerful

that have to be in this case. For so that the religion we've

done a group of Bavalaos of people and people we're saying it's that the Bavalao

it's a case Bavalao yeah he's been the palero but not the case the palero

then there is where I'm there's a well then I can have to do an exorcism because this

not is of Bavalao no is Valeria, then enter there and I don't I can't get it, because then you attender my other colleagues, and there's where I enter, and I enter with the regimen that I'm seen-in-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-

So when some other class of things, well, I do you use the palo, but in that case no. I don't you, no, it has generated or no to generate a past, like a conflict with theidades of your religion? Yes, in its moment, yes. Because, because

if we're talking about the palo, we're talking to two vertients. that we that we're doing the good and the in this case,

there is where also there's where I'm where I think the the church also does that's

many things that enter of the rituals. In this case the palo

utilizes the the the and when he gets a a spirit

oscuro embottell or or clavar in some element that was

what was what did the father Gabriel Amor so I said

well it's not That's a place... So different, no? So, what distinct of here is that

that's a demonio that's that's out of a person, you can't get to do you can't use to make the

bad in the other person. There, yeah, because, because I see of that type of practices,

of one thing is to have your collection of bottles with the genios into, for

mandars to send us to the infirno, to the desert, to where they're going,

and the other is in the other is in the other putting in the same context, I'm putting in the same, but now I

don't know to do you to do that to do do that? What do you know, the people

that's the people who I can't say that the people who use them don't know what they're

using. It's the father of the not the same a man who

to control a demonio because the demonio not will be not be in this case your

scap you are to do you they're going to a form inferior and they're and they're

and they're to be that they're in that they're in that moment but again you're going

but time there's there's a there's so I'm no cordyno in that point with

certain things of the paleria not is the same to use in this

case a a murder that you can't control to use a demonio and who

who uses a demonio well know what is where I'm doing that is where I'm after those

paleros I'm in my consultor and those have to exercise So it's curious because

there there plays much the role of the egocentrism I

say I I'm I'm I'm So, so they're in, this... Podomong, gase, no, of that I'm here. No, it's true.

Tal-beast, it's a bad for the demonio that you're creases because you're trying all the mentira of that, of that, that's, they're, but the reality is that they're, and that's

me said, a friend of me, I mean, they're even, they're in the moment in where they can, for, p. If, look, not utilizing them, sacdolos,

Paco, has yet a moment in my life, where simply and simply, and simply you're going to

every that you do is an exorcism you're going to you're going to

part of your life okay uh ago. I'm I got in

a new a new a family totally because it's a

moment where you after you after you do you make you is very

very so you get a debilitary okay so then so I

get to so that I get to get to get to 95

kilos and And in less of a month, I pered tantos kilos that I paid to get to

get to in a one month. A discompensation tremendous. Horrible. It was

diarrhea that I had to eat and when I had to eat at minute, me

cargabing to go to go to the back, I had to do you know to get to

get to get to get a little time of life is a shock very

It's very strong. Did you? Diagnosicator on something? I mean, fiatty, that me have diagnosed

the question of cancer in colon. Okay. That's a process of cancer of colon

until the moment, because medically was what they said. And they said, you're going

to do you get certain treatments, some they were certain things, and they said,

you're going to do do you want to do you because, because your case,

there no, there's that nation. Sure. So, so it was like

to start to do this but I'm very good. But I'm working. I'm really

the love for my patients, the love for my people, it was the people

and I had to be and I think they're, I think they're to me than me than I to you

to say, Chrisin you're bad and I'm no, I have to continue the first operation

that I get to operate to when when when they're when they're My form of life

was that if if I go, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, it's that I'm doing, what's

going to do? So, you're going to this plan? I was at so when I know, when I go, consult to

one of my major and me say, punt, I get a work very very hard. He said,

you're you're saying, you can't send a lot of certaination. We've got to do certain things

because also I'm not so powerful. I have to arm my people. The don't know for the service or the other, but not for your service. For autosanartes. Yes. And I have to

have my equipment that me saner me. So when they begin to do sanations, look, me here I'm here I'm, because of that me said that I'm kept a month of life. So, so it's very complicated. I see,

I see, I see, I've seen much people in reds social, uh, despite of the pandemic that they're saying, I'm sorry, I'm gruho, I'm this. The world the paranormal,

the demonios in specific, are very very dangerous. And I, you, all me say, you know,

I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm more fear to the people that get to make to do that

in this case, when I'm encounter with these two vertientes according to the

church, and according me of the justice, then the two vertients that you say,

if you you're to go the church you say a charlatan

you say a bruch, mentiroso, that's no exist. If you

go to, in this case to the justice, also you don't to get to get your

money. But at the final of the only that many times we're we're

doing where the people that the people who don't know they're for you.

You have got a question. You've been to get to get to people?

Mack. People? How? Who? I mean, I tell you I can't say that

when I caught a case that was a person of a much power that had to have to be

with things illicitas. The mania? That's so. And, and a me have

been treated well. I can assure that the person that came to the consultor

and he tried well, but if me said, oh, you know, you know,

you know, you know, I have a terrain that that's me did to me

and I was, I mean my son, was a woman, uh, the cargo of that

people, and a him was arrested but it's because it's because he's a person,

a person that's a person who she did it and I'm he said that my he said,

my son, then my father even after the penal, well, he's still he's

he's done money, then he's the life. I'm, I said, well, I'm,

well, I mean, yeah, because you he wants to the life

so if you know, you know, you know, the blus to the woman and you know

a woman then then I keep the life, if you know, to what's

people, you know, how do you do you know, I'm the quantity. I'm,

I'm, I'm, so if you say, you're saying that's that you do you,

that's, that's, so, why he came to to say to me, no

see so, if he did with the affand to be so much so I'm so that you

know, I'm doing what I'm what I'm what I want to see to see. I'm not, I'm doing.

And as to that I understand. If I do a dis, it's, it's something it's,

it's like premiarla. Yeah, so I said, for where I was. I want to suffer,

that you want to get to so much a little. So, so there's where you

is an agent very despiedada. Sure. I said, no,

signora, I said, I can't help to help us or let me see me to be able to do you

do you know and then me communicate with you. The signora still insisting and insisting

what I did was more endulsa to the lady her to let her to allow her to make her

to make her to make it that was was doing was not because at final of the

all back to have been a repercussion you terminated embruching her I'm

I'm I'm more embron her because in this in this life,

so the that's the part of the and the that's a lot of the kind of the

question. I think you're a little bit, but you're going to maybe not, maybe I'm quite I'm sure, because

you're saying that you don't are of those that's the type of work, that I'm

to trygo to my I, I want to do you know, let's let's do

what you what do you the bruchos that say is that I do do it's that I'm

for me. But I do so I do. I do. If I bring a kid, if I do a little, if I do with a family, I do if I do, but because the man is for me, I'm not for me. I'm just, like, who's, like, who I lineo all, but, well, the man is for, yeah, for the person that they're asking. What do you? Where is your don? The don't is a, a, one thing that they're given to

use it to, to do it, so they're saying with his don't, and they're not, not are accorded more that the don't that's

that's that's using it's using to do you not you're not you're you're

you're pacting with the above and if you're you're back

then that's the father of the mental and the father of the money

the money that you are doing you're to be to be to be and every

act that you do you do you do you a repercution and

a repercution a repucion me dedicate to do things well it gets

to get to be because you're the fibras more less more

to say to say to say to say now imagine to you just

and say that's so that that's me kept very clear

God God not tivus or those want colds

or those frios he vomited those vomited those

vomited for There are, no, there are bruchos Blankos, but also negros. There are bruchos that are or do the bad or to do the well or

to do it, no, there's, the person that you do the good and I go the mal. Yes, if I've toped with that. No. So, then

with what authority, I would be a demonia and here there a personage that does that, and that's been famous, that I

repudio, an personage a person that says that for him a person and I

know how a great famous that we was for because of a tis a satanista

and me a risa because knowing he and knowing the story and all

knowing what kind of that's that's that's that's that I'm

that I'm saying that's that's he's let's let's let's

say that's that you're that that really the demonio is to be to bedecer to

someone that's the inco? I've said the same. I've said in the Bible, there's

things, for example, that says, when to Jesus he said, is that he he's that he's

he says, clear, that no. At the end of the reign, no, no,

no, I'm going to do you know I'm not, I'm not, and that question I always

I've made but, but, I've seen some a capitolo. I simply am a host, an

interviewer. No, me, confront me, confront me with nobody, because I just, I don't do my chambah, but when they say, I work with the devil, I talk to people, but also I doxorcismos, so, like, I mean, I,

I don't know, I'm, yeah. I don't know. At least, you know, he goes to, you know, he says, oh, yeah, this, look, we're, we're going to do you, we're going to change other thing for other other

or it's this and I'm at this but it's like I'm in

the question you think the demonio you think I'm going to say I'm not or depender

much what type of demon or not the demon is the father of the and you

can't the demon the demonia is adeptus and the demonio what you

want is that is that are around and I think and I

think the person in this case that's the person the people that's

arraigada to God. Are those that more attack, are the they're the more of the

people who they're they're in those who they're in me, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, so you think, so you think you have someone, who's

he costed a job, and then then he, he's, he's, he's, I'm,

I'm going to get this, he'll say the demon, yeah, yeah, yeah, so,

yeah, so, so, so, then, so, so, he has cuted.

No, I've quited. If you're black, you're black. And so you're metas to the most

obscure, I'd say my abelo that you can't be to be able, and not manchart. And so

you'll be you'll be you'll be so you're so you're so, I'm so, I have costed

much to have been one, the credibility one, the, now see, my, now

see, my raises, my origins, that is, well, believe in God, the temor

of God, because at the end of the you're in you're in you're going to do you.

And every personita that gets to your life is a life that you have to care.

And when you presentes and the eyes, you're going to not only of you, but the

people that you know, that part to me has generated much conflict, bro, and you

do you know but I'm my intention to bring a question. Questioner. Ah, I see question

but not at the grader to generate like a conflict of I'm in respect,

I've been in the satanical that have done the most despiard but they were there

my companions desergar in sustos but everyone, at the final to tell you

I do I do I go questions and I make a interesting the

thing of every person, his history and the really that's

really is very man man Firtisima Fiatty that the most

Firtis that I can get to get and that more me have impacted

and that I think I think you know how you know the death you

the murder the death of your life of how is the most impactant

to despid a person yeah see that for me

of the most impactante that I get is that that when a

person of my family is to be disprend and go. Okay. Me has

passed with my two abuelos. What is what what happens with me, it's something rare, that I'm going to separate, that I don't know

those I'm to visit, like if something me interpussia a barrera to be able to then so I know they're

so much of them, but days before, or moments before, I start, those start, I'm going to

start. In some of the occasions, in the Guadalajara, I had a program

of radio, where labored at the mornings, and I standing yeah at the air, me they'd have the news, for

that I was, I had two days, soniating to my abel. My abuel was in the pandemic,

when he started the pain, he, he, he, he, he, I'm a man, a month's and he says,

he's, he's, that they want to internar, because your kid says that I have COVID,

but I don't have COVID, this, no, don't let's go, don't me

they can go. and my papas, so enoja with my kids, because they're

they're not my my abuel in a state and it's out of the hospital,

but I do you know so I'm doing the station of radio or my program

of radio at the time of the station me to do my mom that my

abel that my father then then I say in the station you're

going the program or we're we're we're not we My abuelo me

to show that the show should be to continue that the job that's I'm

the same. But when me don't the pesame he makes a psychophonia that I don't

listen to I'm so blocky that I blocked my sixth sense and it

met a psychophonia so in that moment all we were the pandemic transmitting

from our but we we didn't we'd we'd we'd we'd

for the computer So when they Then when they They say one of the conductors, Oyes, he's,

he's got to make a psychophonia, we're getting that's met you a sycophonia and I said,

I don't to listen. Diss, let me go, let me in this case, the operator

he's a fragment, the fragment to be able to listen. Volvements of the court,

and then we're, we're going, when we put it, Paco, My abuel me said

to a way very special. No, me called not Christi or the light, or the

not was, I mean the famous carino of an an abuel common and corrient.

My my abuel was fanatic of the movies of and I said ah, you're the

carnal Marcel, Marcel. And always me he said so. So,

when I still I'm talking and they're being done the Pesame I'm

a voice that me says, adjus carnal. but my my abuel

had a voice very ronka a tone very a tone very very so when I I'm saying

ah no much thanks to the people that we're sending the person

to me to my family I'm I'm so I'm so I'm the

psychophonia that me says adjus carna so so when

I go from from my house oh yes but there's but I'm

there no I'm I'm I'm in a officeina

that I adapted for that not to make the noise I said no there's all they're all right

and they're in other part there no there and less because it's the voice of my

father so then you imagine you you're so I'm you're saying but why you can't

because it's because no it's a part of that part of the human

because very independently that we seem medium that we see we're

we're Yeah, the vivos that we're going to not they're going to be yeah in a new year,

in a anniversary in a navidate you're not you're going to be able with those people who

were. For me it's of the most difficult the power to be a person that you

want you and that you think that I think that's of what you can make to make

to me in my in my life. Totally totally because we

we have that same same I've always said, the abolitos are... Yes, the father's. Oh,

man, they're more. Oh, well, are they, well, they're like a father. Because they're to love

like a father. Yes. And, well, exist in some exceptions, but at least we've got a grand fortune

and much people also, and much in my case, to see, more to be a woman and my braos

is of the things that that have marked because in your case for, well, it practiced a liberation

because someone did a or brujeria. So, these are things that can make

and of some way, and they're going teaching many things. It's like a price

not of a certain knowledge, and it's not, but it's not that it's a

thing, and I think it's of the things of the things most beautiful.

I'm going to I'm going to go, I'm like, but

I'm got to get to get to you? You, you have

dedicated to help a person that that's in the mal, you've

never has been a little you've a little with a man that

he's telling that's tumbling his job. Yes, what was

what was when me took on in this case, in the case, but

that was that was that was for that. We did we need a but we

we were that not a demon that even the demon was taping behind

that the demonio was also also taping a question of Brugheria.

So, we're going to a brugheria. I said, no, this is more facilitated. Tumbed this. And we came to

a reprecution very great, that was when you know, in this case, the major, and you know, you're,

you're doing this a demon, but also tumbas is a guy, a man, a gruho a, no?

Dissen, for one, there's one, there's one and a one and a end of the encounter me

with this did have a repercution. In this case, when I, when I did I

I learned to do a team that's I'm not I'm not I'm in this case

but it's a community that we're done from the abogado licensed to the

in this case the exorcist the babalau all a team for what we can't

in this case can't be able to help to us to be having a

having a because they get to get a camera but now as you you have

you have you know I thought in that moment and I said if I

get to get to move in this moment will be to say with the

front in alt to say me I'm going because I'm doing

I'm and that for those we're we're we're for us

to give our life as like God God God

does for us so what that how form that

so this episode how you how you do you

feel and Tranquilo, because your presences of here, no they're just a little bit, Paco. Thank you. You're a woman

very beautiful. You're a woman very spiritual. You're in many angels. Cudalos. Yeah. You know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you're saying a lot of times. Offreces

much oration. Dalles much a lus spiritual. I know what they're going to start helping to

that always that you have that that faith and that that's you're doing good.

That never you can't never you never you and that you plant that you that's a light and that

that's time that I'm very much. I appreciate much. You're I'm very that I've accepted the

invitation. No, much thanks, I'm really. I'm content to be able to

be here. Thank you. Thank you to all the final of this episode. I'm a very,

a great, a brother and I'm thank this episode as in YouTube Spotify. You know

that my name is Paco Arias and we'll see us later in a new episode.

Passenla Bonito. Until the next to the next. Ciao.