EXTRA ANORMAL - La Noche de los NAHUALES | Historias Macabras de Nahuales Diableros

Episode Date: July 18, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And after that they manage to hear a particular sound that is like nails, claws on the ceiling. And everything comes down when they hear a woman's voice, they write it, that says, where are my children? I know they are awake. Suddenly he began to bend, as if his shoulders began to be towards the front He started to bend. His shoulders started to be towards the front. And his mouth started to stretch. His feet, like his shoes, came out. And he showed like a leg of an animal,
Starting point is 00:00:33 like a horse. Like a beast. In front of his grandfather, in front of his grandmother, in front of everyone. He also did a radiography of the whole dog. Or he did it like that. They say that specifically in the area of the whole dog too, or so he did. They say that specifically in the area of ​​the thorax, you can see first a diffuse stain, but that this stain was left by a humanoid, a small humanoid within the animal, as if it were practically a fetus. Music How are you family? Welcome to another episode of Podcast Extranormal. My name is Paco
Starting point is 00:01:38 Arias and I am happy to be with you again in an episode. Today family is accompanied by a good friend, a person that we were already talking about a little bit before recording, and I'm very happy that he joins us tonight for a topic that I've already said many times, it's one of my favorites. Today I'm joined by Dani Silva. How are you, brother?
Starting point is 00:01:59 Very good, brother, very happy. Thank you for the invitation. Also with Haciel for adding your... For fixing the logistics so I could be with you today. And nothing, happy to tell and listen stories for the community of the extra normal podcast. No man, thanks. Thanks for accepting the invitation. Family, the truth is, this episode I recommend you to listen to the stories with a lot of determination.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Because I bring today, I mean, all the stories I have told I like them, but today I bring a story that made me the craziest one they have sent me, the strangest one, and I dare to say the most sinister it's a very long story I'll try to summarize it in fact I have support here so please don't miss it
Starting point is 00:02:56 get ready if you're at work or in the gym I also want to invite you to subscribe to this channel, activate the bell and follow us on Spotify. Also remember that our exclusive content is already available on our website www.podcastextranormal.com.mx where we are going to upload a second part of this episode where the most sinister, the forbidden, is already going there. I always said it.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Friend, I know you are telling me that it is the first time you come out on the block with us But for the people who are meeting you for the first time I would like you to introduce yourself to what you do and social networks of course My name is Daniel Silva. I'm 30 years old. I'm a producer editor and recently content creator, bro How cool is it since forever? Look at how I have considered myself as most of those who of us, a fervent fan of the paranormal theme. Witchcraft, Santeria, and all this kind of stuff. I can even remember myself reading children's horror novels for 10 or 12 years. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:57 And well, after that I ended up gravitating towards this kind of deeper content which are the podcasts and these videos that people record on TikTok... ...where they document paranormal events at the moment. And well, a year ago I decided to materialize all this fanaticism that I have in a podcast, Relatos Oscuros. How cool. Eh... Recently I've taken a lot of affection and I've been doing more constantly. But what we basically do is... ...telling the stories that people do me the favor of sharing... ...in a first person format. Ok. With a little bit of atmosphere out there and well nothing I hope that if the family of the
Starting point is 00:04:30 podcas extranormal is back on the channel the stories are desorbed, thank you very much and remind people that also in the description is the link to the channel of our dear friend so that they can also subscribe and then also comment there we do not come from the family of the extra normal podcast also supporting our guest today brother I told you a while ago and I said it a while ago the issue of nahuas is look at the top top top of the cool ones that I love a lot because when we talk about the strangest mysteries that exist within the paranormal world the issue of the Nahuals for me is a super mystery I will never get tired of saying it because it is a topic that has been around for many years
Starting point is 00:05:18 since pre-Hispanic times where the same phenomenon is found repeated in different cultures and civilizations maybe not as much as we know of Nahuatl but we do find it as its cousins and brothers if you want to see it like that, with the United States, China, Japan, Korea, in many countries of the world we always find the common denominator where a human body transmutes and a kind of metamorphosis arrives where its appearance is seen from another level. What do you think of the Nahuals? Well, I find the subject quite interesting. It's a pleasure to share with you
Starting point is 00:05:58 because of the fact of everything behind it, that is to say, these pagan rituals in which they need to do to acquire this type of skill. Yes. And the truth is that the fact of materializing in something completely different and who knows with what intentions. Of course. They can be quite dark sometimes, like cursing people or this kind of thing. Well, I think there is a lot of fabric to cut on this topic. I was talking to a person who lives in the state of Mexico about this topic because he says that he assures me of having seen in Aguales, in high areas of the state of Mexico where you see that there are
Starting point is 00:06:35 like hills. This person normally, for his work, goes through a large part of these area and he tells me something that caught my attention. He says that, because of his work, he usually climbs the mountain or some hills and he tells me that he always, well maybe not always, but regularly, he hears screams like men. Normally, anyone would think, well is getting cranked in some part, which I don't think is something strange in our country, but there is a pattern that repeats itself and he realized that every... this was said to me, that every full moon he noticed that this was happening. He said, there are two of them. Or if there is a person who is being
Starting point is 00:07:26 beaten up or people are doing some kind of ritual. The detail is that the neighbors or the people that were already starting, where the houses, the civilization, started, described animals a little amorphous,
Starting point is 00:07:42 strange, bigger than normal. And he says to me, I'm sure that higher up the hill, because I've seen smoke, someone lives or certain people live, but the weird thing is that they never go down, well, here to... Yes, to civilization. They don't go down. I mean, I see smoke. I mean, I see that... That smoke comes out, but it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Very high. So, he's relating all this... I mean, he's done this in a process of more than 10 years. He's taken out all these conjectures and says, Ok, there are people up there. Each moon full. There are screams. And I said, ah, well...
Starting point is 00:08:21 They must be nahuas, right? I mean, I'm joking, right? And he seriously tells me, Yes. I said, ok, let's see. I mean, I, well, they must be nahuas, right? I was joking, right? And he seriously says, yes. I said, let's see, I was just playing, right? He says, yes. And he says, let's see, think about it. The method or the way in which the body is going to start to transform
Starting point is 00:08:40 must be super painful. And I said, well, yes, it's true. And it's that these screams we hear in the full moon, it's literally as if a person wasn't being sent to another world, but the function is to make them suffer. They scream, they twist, and I said, ok, in that case he thinks that those screams are caused by the people who live there, and that they are every full moon. So he thinks, the person I was talking to,
Starting point is 00:09:10 who was Ahumit and Yilit, who we did in Mexico City too, he tells me that I think they are people who are dedicated to a subject of witchcraft or magic or something, because the neighbors who are the first houses that are, have seen that kind of phenomenon. and said, oh my god. I mean, I feel like going, but I don't know what... What do you think you can come across? Well, it could be anything, bro. And then this, that the pattern repeats,
Starting point is 00:09:35 that it's in full moon. Exactly. That adds to the fact that they are completely isolated, to put it in some way, from the community. So, what things are not going to happen there what rituals What rituals? Look I want to tell you a story called receiving a gift
Starting point is 00:09:53 This one is shared by Guadalupe Guadalupe Gutierrez greetings to Guadalupe. Thank you for sharing our story And it catches my attention because this happens in a ranch located in my beloved Oaxaca. This is about, if we talk in hours, about eight hours from here in Tuxepec. It's not that close. This person tells me that she lived primarily in the capital of Oaxaca for many years. But there was a time when she started to get tired and bored of life in the city. So, as she had been raised in a ranch, in the ranch of the rest, she says, I wanted to take a break, give up everything, go live a few days there,
Starting point is 00:10:35 because there she had family, her mom was there, her dad was there, her aunts were there, and she said, I'm going to the ranch. This person goes to the ranch, arrives, and well, the family gave him happiness, of course, to see a person, a relative who is coming to live with them, they receive her very nice, and she tells me, the truth is that it gives me a lot of happiness because it is a brutal change in all aspects, the air,
Starting point is 00:11:02 all the peace, the noise, the mornings listening to the crows singing, that smell when they're throwing the tortillas made by hand, it's wonderful. When she arrives, she finds out about a news that was something very important for the family. Her aunt Aurelia, who is already 45 years old, was pregnant. She says, the truth is Paco says, my aunt for many years looked for a baby, for many years.
Starting point is 00:11:33 She even had a certain diagnosis, not by one, but by several specialists, that there was a fertility issue, that she wasn't going to be able to have children. So when we found out that my aunt was pregnant, the whole family was happy. They thought at some point, of course, they were already resigned, that is, they weren't going to have anyone. And the whole family was happy, in fact, it was already close to eight months, more or less. So it says, well, how nice, no?
Starting point is 00:12:04 I mean, the whole family united and they are going to receive this baby that arrives in the world. Guadalupe quickly begins to adapt to her new lifestyle, she lives in her parents' house, at that time she was 20 or 25 years old, and she says, my activities, sweep the yard, every night I take out the garbage, help with cleaning work, also help my mom, help my dad,
Starting point is 00:12:28 prepare the food, and take a walk around our aunt, the pregnant woman, because she lived alone, her husband always worked, so she was adapting. As the weeks went by, she noticed something strange. She says, my family has many animals in the ranch, like three dogs.
Starting point is 00:12:50 But I noticed a strange dog, a black dog, that was standing on the edge of the yard of the house, and where there is already a hill, where there is nothing. It didn't bark, it didn't move, and it looked very strange, it looked bigger than normal. I asked my mom, I asked my grandparents,
Starting point is 00:13:16 if the dog was from the neighbor, and suddenly we had a neighbor, the neighbor Toño, who took out his animals at night. I said, no, it's not the neighbor's dog and in fact we hadn't seen him around here maybe someone let him go well, it happened the curious thing is that Guadalupe as he used to clean at night
Starting point is 00:13:37 and he started to sweep the entrance of his house, the patio he noticed that this dog was always approaching but he didn't get to the ground of his family. Always at the limit. Like with the legs back, giving to where the hill is, and the legs in front, stepping on the ground. But he didn't approach to order food, or water, or bark. And she says, the dogs of the house, from here, from the ranch, they didn't bark. She says, we have one of them that really can't see anyone passing by the street because,
Starting point is 00:14:10 oh my, no, I mean, she almost throws the fence that she wants to go, right? And that dog that is the one they take care of the most, they hid. I mean, for some reason they didn't bark. They even hid. They had a space where they had a lot of wood covered. They were waiting for it to dry. They got in there. They didn't go out. That was very strange. He started telling his parents. He said, daughter, he's a dog from the street. Don't stress yourself. The strange thing is that she felt that the look of this animal
Starting point is 00:14:46 is like when they tell you they have a heavy look, it's not a normal look, like there's something behind it. On one occasion she stayed until late, she stayed doing her activities, they say they were around 11 at night, when in that something draws her attention, that is, as if something makes her turn her gaze and from within her house she saw the dog but this time she saw that it was getting closer and closer and she reached the middle, just the middle of the patio, she did not reach the entrance. But there, in the light of the spotlight, it was already a little brighter.
Starting point is 00:15:26 She said, yes, it was a dog. Strangely, when I try to focus it well, I realize that it had... Let's see, this sounds very strange. That its face, its eyes
Starting point is 00:15:42 were different from those of the anime. You realize that this part, his eyes, were different from those of the anime. You realize that this part, in his sight, in his gaze, was like the gaze of a human being, of a man. Quickly, I felt like a cold step across the column,
Starting point is 00:16:02 and I stayed looking at him, and he too takes another step forward and I see him in more detail. His mouth was not like a normal trunk, it did have features, I mean, it literally had shape as if it were human. As if it were human. He says, I started to feel afraid because this dog did nothing and I couldn't move either, he just watched me and he came closer and closer. I was very afraid. At some point
Starting point is 00:16:33 I managed to move, I managed to walk, I returned, I closed the door and despite the fact that I didn't really know what that was, I felt too scared. I talked to my mom, I talked to my dad, he said, daughter, you're exaggerating, it's okay. Normally, when there are those animals, there is destruction, or they eat the animals, which is a classic, we'll see it later. But this dog only came and watched, always. And time passed, the truth is that I didn't see him again. baba, siempre. Y se pasó el tiempo. La verdad es que ya no lo volví a ver. Pensé que eso iba a quedar ahí
Starting point is 00:17:09 y hace lo que muchas personas hacen cuando ven algo fuerte que les da miedo, como que lo bloquean. Dicen, eso lo imaginé. Y con eso se quedó allá, con eso lo imaginé. Ay, fue yo. Yo vi mal a un animalito. Hasta que estaba platicando una vez con su abuela. A su abuela no le había contado exactamente esto. I was the one who saw an animal in a bad way. Until I was talking to his grandmother. His grandmother hadn't been told about this. And she started to tell him about something. This thing came up at the table. And his grandmother didn't tell him like her parents did. They said, daughter, if he was an owl, how do you think? And he said something very interesting, because he says,
Starting point is 00:17:48 it is said that when a soul is born with a powerful gift, they approach to welcome it. You noticed that once your aunt's daughter was born, she stopped coming? And you say, yes, it's true, she hasn't come back. So, that's what grandma said when the baby was just born, little, she was just born. So that means one thing. That girl has a gift. And we will discover it later. Guadalupe tells us that unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:18:33 her grandmother did not live to see her. But she was right. This little girl, called Luz, since she was three years old, showed an extraordinary gift. If there was a sick person, she, being a 3 year old girl, would approach and touch. If there was a person with many respiratory problems,
Starting point is 00:19:00 she would put her hand on the person's chest, and magically, the person would chest and magically the people heal. And this did it many times. He says, today, Luz is 20 years old. She is a young woman who has a lot of power, a lot of light. In the town they know her for healing. Unfortunately, the grandmother does not live to know, but it's like she said. This being didn't come to destroy, didn't come to steal, didn't come to anything.
Starting point is 00:19:31 He came to observe. And as she said, he came to welcome her. And especially that she came from a woman to whom they had already mentioned medically that she was not going to be able to have children. And she ends up saying, now when I see black dogs standing in the lonely roads of the town, I no longer feel fear, I feel respect, because there are things that did not come to scare us, but to announce something sacred.
Starting point is 00:20:02 She, who is already more than 40 years old, Guadalupe, don't forget this experience, which is truly impressive, I had never heard something like this. Wow, man. What do you think, brother? A great story.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And I was thinking about a couple of points you said, like, for example, that the nahuas, some of them come to us, they only observe. It is usually a very marked pattern... ...or behavior in this kind of beings. Yes. And the truth is that you blew my mind with that... ...because the first story that I bring you...
Starting point is 00:20:34 Okay. ...tells about a person, it's a man, a man... ...who says that since he was a child he always had... ...a very marked spiritual sensitivity. He lived with his mom and his grandma. And he says that, mainly, he used to see shadows in the peripheral vision of the eyes. And he could hear things that others couldn't hear. In this case, he doesn't remember what they said.
Starting point is 00:20:59 But he says that he remembers it as a rather solemn tone, like when someone prays. Uh-huh. So, this person couldn't talk about this with his mom, because, first, it wasn't a topic he liked. He felt uncomfortable and felt something related to the topic. His grandmother, on the other hand, shared this sensitivity with him. His grandmother was originally from Veracruz. Ok. Not necessarily from Catemaco. We know that there is all this, well...
Starting point is 00:21:27 ...if you can call it idiosyncrasy regarding witchcraft and hidden practices. It wasn't from there. However, he shared the gift. And she was like his cloth of tears when this kind of event happened. So, he didn't know it was something bad at that time. Okay. However, it was something that was making him tense. Time passes and a situation occurs that marks him, that unfortunately his grandmother died. And he tells that after being in the candle, you know, it's full of relatives, they have the fetus in a... in a base, so to speak. He is there, he remembers, Fernando's dad. that during those seconds, seeing his grandmother's body, he manages to hear his voice.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Ok. To which his grandmother says, I'm fine, son. Don't worry. Everything will be fine. I love you. Holy shit. At that moment, this person was already approximately a teenager, 15 and 16 years old. He broke into tears. However, he doesn't let the others see this because if in itself everyone already had a pretty strong emotional load, he didn't want to add anything else. Of course.
Starting point is 00:22:50 So, he was there for a while, watching his grandmother's body. He came back to sit down. Without telling anyone. From there, the funeral... He says he lived it as a... ...a cloud of mud in his memory. In which, yes, it was something that hurt him a lot. But he manages to overcome it and realizes that from that moment on, it seems that this sensitivity was suppressed, in a way. Nothing else happened.
Starting point is 00:23:17 He later realizes that he got a job. He was older than him. And he managed to move to his own space. He studied communication and developed a taste for photography. Then one night, a rainy night, he arrives home at nine at night, enters, has dinner, sits down for a while in front of the room, and he had developed this hobby that many photographers have, which is to go out for a walk with our camera.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Of course, to create shots. Capture moments. He describes it as capturing moments that people normally don't care about. Ok. So, at 11.30 at night, 12, he says, ah, I just had dinner, maybe I'd like to go out to eat something and all this. He goes out with his camera, They put it in a briefcase. His digital camera, his keys, more personal items. He goes out and when he walks a few blocks, he realizes something. It wasn't necessarily very abrupt.
Starting point is 00:24:15 He realized that the environment started to change in the sense that he didn't have any auditory contamination. He didn't hear anything. This adds to the... ...the atmosphere that it had rained. Yes. There were puddles in the water and all this. And he starts to walk. With... Still with his camera on. Because, well, insecurity in...
Starting point is 00:24:38 Of course. ...in Mexico City. This happened in Mexico City. To be more specific, in the colony of Rome. Which I found quite interesting. Wow. Because we talked a while ago that normally the stories of. Which I found quite interesting. Wow. Because we talked a while ago that normally the stories of Nahuales are located in rural communities. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And all this kind of places. So, he starts to walk. He says that he can only hear his footsteps on the asphalt. Some of the things, belongings he had in his suitcase while walking. And he realizes that there isn't a lot of people in the street. Which is also weird. Sure. But he took it like that because of the weather.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Yes. It had just rained. He kept walking. It was a little more tense. And when he reached a... a... ...a curve, a intersection of streets... ...a dog saw him from afar. He didn't take it more seriously. He said he didn't have anything special. However, when he saw it, he thought it was poetic to the point where he imagined in his head to take a picture.
Starting point is 00:25:36 He describes that right where the dog was, like 15 or 20 meters behind him, there was one of these mercury lights. Uh-huh. Which makes a perfect shadow of the animal and he said, let's take a picture of it. At that moment, this dog was giving him the back. An important detail. This person starts to turn his suitcase to take out his camera, his digital camera. And when he manages to see it once again, the dog was much bigger than he remembered seeing it in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Ok. And when he makes the noise of taking out the camera, Obviously, this entity is noticed, if you can call it that, and starts to turn. And this is where the story you just told makes a lot of sense to me. Because he also describes that the face of that dog had human features. Ok. But he also describes that what most impacted that dog had human features. Ok. But he also describes that the most impressive thing was the sight of this animal. They were red eyes. Not necessarily with a particular shine. However, they were seen in a visual connection that for him were hours.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yes, yes, of course. And they were only a couple of seconds. He can't even take the picture. He has the camera shaking in his hand. Claro....was going on. He turns around again to see if that thing was following him. And he tells that when he turns around... ...this dog stands on his two hind legs. He doesn't run after him, but he starts to walk. Ok. Fortunately, this person wasn't far from his house.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Then he runs. He opens the door. He closes it behind him. Trying to understand what had happened. He puts him safe, obviously. And he sits in the room trying to calm down. He tells that in his room he had a window that gave way. In which there was also a lamp. One of these mercury lights, not necessarily outside. But in the place where he was sitting, he could see far away. Ok. He writes, I'm not lying that when I turned, that silhouette was under the mercury light, Okay. And after a few minutes, he starts to hear the unmistakable sound of nails scratching the door of his house. At that moment, his primary survival action, if you can call it that, makes him close the door of his room with security.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And he tries to stay there still, even though he can hear the sound a little lower. Uh-huh. Nothing happened well at night. He didn't even sleep. The next day he had to work, so he gets up. And when he leaves his apartment, he can see the marks on the nails on the door. What do you think about this, Paco? I have a question for you. I made the little preamble of the grandmother. Because you had mentioned a subject of sensibility. Do you think that this kind of people have these experiences so vivid and descriptive
Starting point is 00:28:55 because of having this sensitivity or was it just a coincidence? If it were like that, let's remember the words of the grandmother. Everything will be fine, son. Don't worry. Do you think that the grandmother has acted as some kind of protection against this threat? Ajá. situations. Esta persona suprimió todo este don o de alguna forma lo encapsuló. Hay gente que digo, a ver, eso es válido. Hay gente que de pronto te dice, no, porque, cabrón, por ejemplo, un medium.
Starting point is 00:29:35 No se siente bonito andar por la calle y ver muertos por todos lados. Y cada quien es libre de elegir si lo quiere o no lo quiere vivir o experimentar. who is free to choose whether he wants it or not, to live or to experiment. In the case of him, I think that something was doing that animal there, he had an encomienda, they say that when they take these normal appearances, they go more unnoticed. Unfortunately for the protagonist, he ran into him on his way and this being realized that hey, you're bringing something. I mean, if it catches their attention, there are also vertigo, I mean, here I'm going to put a little more, maybe crazy and conspiratorial, but there are people who mention this, talking about the world of magic,
Starting point is 00:30:31 that certain people who have knowledge of high magic, witchcraft and sorcery can take that gift, they can steal the gift. Develop it too, right? Yes, so I say this is something that they have told me, it is not necessary that, no, that cannot be done, well, there are people who think so. On the contrary, the story that I told, which was like a reception, here it was, why did he follow him? What caught his attention? What was there that said, hmm, I'm interested? It's a mystery, brother. What a good story brother, what a good story. And I'm going to tell you that the story that for me is the craziest, strange and sinister.
Starting point is 00:31:11 It's a story that is titled the revenge of the Nahuatl. And that story is shared by a girl named Marisol. And this happened about 15 years ago. She tells me that she was at that time with her sister talking to her mother and that they suddenly wanted to visit an aunt they love very much, an aunt called Rosa. Let's see her, let's visit her. And the time we arrived was on Sunday, Rosa. never got married, never had children, but it was the aunt who loved her nephews a lot. So she said, she loved us a lot. And she had pictures of us, she said, in her room, in her house. And we started to talk about the paintings, and the aunt at some point said, ah, well, I have more pictures. She went into her room room, he left and took out the album of photos, right?
Starting point is 00:32:27 And he gives them to us, he says Marisol gives me the album, to me and my sister, and we started to hoarse. And when we started to hoarse, well, yes, they say, we laughed at ourselves, at seeing the photo of my father as a young man, who looked very funny and a lot of things, right? While they were watching the album, there was a photo that wasn't right. I mean, it wasn't inside, it was overlapped. It fell to the floor. And it caught our attention. It was a photo of my aunt, our aunt,
Starting point is 00:32:58 hugged by a very handsome man. He says, a guy with cowboy pants, full-fledged painting shirt, of a very handsome man, he says, a boy who had cow pants, full-length picture shirt, a very beautiful beard and very, very similar to the man. He says, we took the picture and we caught our attention, he says, because my aunt never got married and my aunt never had children. So, well, she is very pretty.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I mean, my aunt is a very beautiful lady. And my sister and I, we were looking at the photo. When in that, my aunt realizes, she says, she didn't dare to take the photo. But we saw that she got sick. She asks us for it and puts it back in the back of the album. She says, I came here nervous. And he said something to us. He said, promise me something. Don't tell your dad that you saw that picture.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Why? Please, promise me. Marisol says, it was super exaggerated for a simple photo, but well, yes, it's fine, don't worry, no, no, we are not going to mention anything to anyone, ok? That fact that I looked very exaggerated, Marisol says, made me very curious to know why
Starting point is 00:34:20 we should not ask, except our father. So she says, my sister and I started to try to question my mom, question our uncles, not asking him exactly about the boy in the photo, but they would tell him, hey, my aunt is very pretty,
Starting point is 00:34:41 why didn't she get married? And the answer was, because she didn't want to. tía es muy guapa porque nunca se casó y siempre la respuesta era pues porque ya no quiso y así van preguntándole a sus tíos pero nunca preguntaban porque habían visto una foto siempre querían sacar no como dicen por ahí no directamente fue el que habían visto en la foto pero buscaban le rascaban y todo el tipo le decían no pues es que pues si dice que hubo un tío que le dijo en el Well, yes. There was an uncle who told her in the village that she was the one with the most suitors. There was a line of guys behind her. And that woke them up even more interested in knowing
Starting point is 00:35:18 why she didn't stay with anyone. They were desperate, the doubt was eating them up, but they decided to keep that promise. They stopped asking, they realized that nobody in the family, for a strange reason, didn't want to tell them and they kept it. Marisol says that one day they were at her grandmother's house and for some reason, su abuela y por x y salió el tema de los hijos de los nietos y una cosa lo llevó otra y llegaron al tema de la tía claro a tía rosita oiga bolita y qué pasó con este porque nunca se casó no hija pues no quiso dice marisol me sentí culpable y si rompí la promesa me dejé de ondas y me No, my daughter, I didn't want to. Marisol says, I felt guilty and yes, I broke the promise.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I was left alone and went straight to the grandmother. I saw a picture like this, ta ta ta ta, a guy like this, like this. What's up? The grandmother changed her face. And she says, she did like, before talking, like... To see if anyone was listening. Yes, to see if anyone was listening, because then his children or their father arrived. Everything was broken. Who told you that?
Starting point is 00:36:32 No, well, we went like this, and the truth is, forgive me, we are missing the promise, but it is that understand us, that is, we have many doubts, we do not know, Because of a simple photo they make so much noise. This lady tells you the biggest story that I really said, damn! She says that before, in the town where they used to live, there was the aunt.
Starting point is 00:37:01 The aunt is a sister of her father, of theirs. Ok. So they come from her paternal family. They were all there. She says that her aunt, indeed, had a lot of men who were behind her. They were the most beautiful. And she says that she was a friend of a boy all the time.
Starting point is 00:37:24 In fact, since they were very young, called Saulo. She says, your aunt Rosa and Saulo were very good friends since they were kids, and as they reached adolescence, they saw something. something, right? The detail is that his grandfather, the father of his aunt, didn't like Saul, because in the village it was mentioned that he came from a family of sorcerers, of great-grandfathers, and there were seasons when people said that the animals of the barn, that they were dead, that they were somehow... I mean, there were animals that killed them by biting them. And everyone said that it was Saulo's family. So when his grandfather found out about this,
Starting point is 00:38:18 he told Aunt Rosa, you know what? I don't want you to get together with that boy. He comes from a family that does this and that. Get him away. Get him away. I don't want you to get together with that guy. He comes from a family of so-so. Get away from him. Get away from him. I don't want you to get together with him. Hey, dad, but he... no. They kept seeing each other secretly. They had to. 15-year-old kids. They kept seeing each other.
Starting point is 00:38:39 They mention that there was an time where one morning the grandfather went out to the patio and found all his dead animals but all of them had bites, as if they were tigers, very big bites he says that the grandfather got angry, right? and he did what many people thought the grandfather was armed. He had a shotgun. He went with Marisol's father. I mean, back then they were 16 or 17 years old. I mean, he went with all his children.
Starting point is 00:39:15 To the house of the family where Saulo lived. To face his father. Something crazy. And she told me that back then, there are villages where things are like right to the arrow. su papá algo bien loco y es que sí ella me dice que en ese entonces hay pueblos donde las cosas como son derecha la flecha y usan machetes en algunos entonces va este señor que para esto el abuelo era un señor que toda su vida se dedicó al campo fuerte grande y va acompañado de sus and he goes with his children. He knocks on the door, and Saul comes out. The first thing he does is
Starting point is 00:39:48 slap Saul. He doesn't even notice the kid, but he hits him. Then his dad comes out. What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? I'm like this, like this. He started to say, like this, like this, my animals.
Starting point is 00:40:04 You were. No, I wasn't. You were. I'm like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like this, like They started to fight and the grandmother says that suddenly, they were beaten up. She says, strangely, the grandfather looked like a trap with Saul's father. Even though he was shorter in stature, he had a lot of strength. She says that he shot the grandfather's children and the grandfather was strangling him. When in that, one of his children took the shotgun and shot the man in the back, the father of Saul.
Starting point is 00:40:55 In that, the grandfather, as he managed to react, the man was seriously injured. They all ran out and they literally hid in their house. And the grandfather was celebrating, how good you did it, I mean, happy, right? Strangely, strangely, they stopped having that kind of situation that the animals died and that kind of thing. But they killed a man.
Starting point is 00:41:26 They went to a person's house and they killed him there, in front of his son and his wife. There are places where these kinds of situations happen unnoticed, and that was the place. They left. The grandfather started telling the whole town that it was the same, that I don't know what. And the whole town agreed to go and burn the house. When they arrived the next day, the house was completely empty.
Starting point is 00:41:57 There was nothing, there was nobody. They had fled. Years passed, at that time Aunt Rosita was 15 years old, so was Saulo. What do you like? About 10 years passed, 15 years, when Saulo returned to the town. But Saulo returned
Starting point is 00:42:19 in a different facet. A bet. A gentleman, a seducer, that in fact, the grandmother says, that he was no longer called Saul, he was Braulio. So, the guy was a seducer, they say that he was very good at beatings, women, many women wanted to go with him,
Starting point is 00:42:42 they had many, In fact, he changed girlfriends every now and then. And at a party, he meets Aunt Rosita. But strangely, they don't recognize each other. I mean, Braulio did recognize her. But for some reason, neither Rosita nor the Rosita family knew it was him. I don't know if it changed a lot physically, but for some illusion, I don't know, magic maybe, they didn't know it was him. They started dating, they started dating, because they were like the perfect couple,
Starting point is 00:43:21 the beautiful girl and the guy too. And that's when they take the picture. Ok. And they keep it. We got to the moment of the picture. What happened? They were starting to go out. Braulio was falling in love with Rosa.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I mean, they wanted to formalize. They were formalizing. He goes to her house. He talks to the man who literally killed his father. I come to ask for her hand. He say, son, I don't know what. They were already formalizing. She says that a week before the wedding, they start drinking something that, well, you're the next member of the family, come on, let's have a beer, let's celebrate.
Starting point is 00:44:05 So, there was the grandfather, the brothers, his children, and Braulio. They were drinking. They started to get drunk. At the house, it was obviously Rosa's. Aunt's. And what happened? They had a drink. He says that the grandfather started getting drunk. And the grandfather, once drunk, his mouth was released.
Starting point is 00:44:30 And he started to fanfare. No, it's just that I am... If you knew that once I killed a fucking nahuatl that was walking around... No, I killed him, man. So he wouldn't mess with me, I don't know... And he started. And this, that they say next, so that he wouldn't mess with me, and he started.
Starting point is 00:44:51 And what they say next is something totally amazing, because they say Saulo stayed quiet, he didn't say anything. Suddenly, this is described by the grandmother who saw it, he started to bend. Like his shoulders started to be facing forward, and his mouth started to stretch. This is what grandma describes. His feet, in fact for some reason,
Starting point is 00:45:16 his shoes came out and he showed like a leg of an animal, like a horse, like a beast. In front of the grandfather, in front of the grandfather, in front of the children, of all of them, he took the grandfather's neck and began to fixate him. He literally began to attack him. The children approached him and began to hit him. They say that
Starting point is 00:45:43 The children approached him and started hitting him. They say that everyone hit him with sticks, the sticks broke, that is, he did not mutate with anything. They hit him in the head, they threw stones at him, and the grandfather was dying. The little aunt came out, the promised aunt, she bowed down in front of him and said, please, and crying, do't kill him, please don't kill him. He says that he turned around to see her, closed his eyes and left. He went in the direction where he... he went to the house where, curiously, he bought the house that before belonged to his family. But, impressively, in front of a lot of people, this man changed his appearance. The whole family, as if they were being silenced, said he was his son. They all get ready and decide to go the next day to finish him off.
Starting point is 00:46:39 The same thing happened again. There was no no one at home, it was empty. And no one saw Saul again. Or Braulio, who was his new identity. Something strange happened. I mentioned to you that Aunt Rosita had many suitors. One of them was very insistent with her and that now with him she was going to marry she wakes up totally shattered and then she starts to walk with another boy and they also find her shattered
Starting point is 00:47:17 in the same way with the intestines on the outside bad the family begins to worry destinos de fuera mal. La familia empiezan a preocuparse y empieza todo el boroto otra vez. Gente manifestaba lo de los animales que amanecían muertos y empezaron a malver a la familia de Rosita porque decían ustedes lo provocaron y por ustedes regresó. Entonces ellos empezaron a tener amen have threats, they beat them up, they beat them up. Why? They said because you were the one who made the boy come back to the son of the Nahuatl and he's doing all this.
Starting point is 00:47:55 The grandmother tells that they had to leave. Literally, they heard the whole family. The grandfather, the grandmother, the daughters, they all left. They all left because in the town, nobody even came to a store, they all left. They all left because in the town nobody, even if they came to a store, they didn't want to sell it because they said, no, because of you the town is cursed, you provoked and they were over them. And that's how they got to a part of the state of Mexico, to Neza and that's where they settled there and that's where they are currently living.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Grandma, Grandma tells that, well, back then, what was the big problem that happened with Aunt Rosita? Saul, the young man in that photo, and that's why nobody wanted to talk about it, because it's such a dark, strong past, that they didn't want to repeat it again. Marisol, the girl who sent us the email, who told us all this story, says that this is... I mean, it's something that it's not even hard for me to believe. But just by seeing the reaction of my, my aunt's, my grandmother's, everyone's reaction,
Starting point is 00:49:07 when we play the song, even superficially, it makes you think that it did happen. Of course. But it sounds too amazing, too crazy, I mean, they are in that big dilemma. But it's one of the stories that, imagine watching, at that moment, I mean, the guy was probably very drunk. Yes, ofrile and see how it started to change or how his appearance began and they hit him and everything did not happen to him it is a story that I said wow very strong and
Starting point is 00:49:37 since then well they stopped mentioning Saulo was banned but for some reason the aunt Rosa keeps saving the photo of him Pablo. but also this revenge of the Nahual for practically destroying the family so, on what side is the balance more? that Saul never fell in love. I think his revenge was... was... in favor of ending the daughter of the Lord and ending the Lord. I mean, I don't know, maybe they couldn't be alone at some point, I don't know. But maybe he was looking for the moment of... or maybe he did fall in love with her.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Because let's remember that they were friends since they were children. Since they were children, yes. So, yes, it's very confusing, bro. I mean, were kids, yes. So, it's a bit confusing, bro. But, I don't know, it's something really crazy. Quite a bit. And, yes, a while ago we were talking about that even in the naval... There are naval benevolent. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:56 And there are others that have quite dark intentions. But in this subject it seems to be quite... Eh... Normal in terms of both aspects of... Of course the two aspects of what could happen. Yes, yes, I mean, I don't know, we have talked about the shamans who manage to dominate the beast, let's call it that, that is, they manage to have control over the animal instinct and we are talking about the others that is totally the opposite, the instinct beats the human being and it is when we have beings that
Starting point is 00:51:36 I don't know, I feel like it is, I'm going to compare it with a very dumb example of a vampire when it's starting when you see that they have like a desperate being, I mean I mean, the movies have shown us vampires that they manage to get to a point... They learn to control their instincts. Exactly. They live in peace. But when they are neophytes, they are crazy. And that's when they commit that kind of things.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I see it that way. Yes. Completely. And maybe it can be a more... ...fine behavior to skinwalkers, which are... ...more evil, so to speak. That's right. But, who knows, Paco is... Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I don't know, bro. His story is strong. And quite credible, I don't doubt it. For the things that happen. I was like that because Marisol doesn't believe it at all, but you say, But it's my family? So, what's up with that? But well, bro, I don't know. Which one are you going to tell me now? todo pero dices pero va a mi familia entonces qué onda con eso pero bueno no sé tú cuál me vas a contar ahora y la siguiente historia que traigo también
Starting point is 00:52:29 ahora sí es ocurrir en una comunidad rural ok esta historia también la manda un hombre y cuenta que cuando él era niño aproximadamente 12 años su mamá en durante sus vacaciones solía mandarlo con sus tíos a este rancho During his holidays, he used to send his uncles to this ranch. Uh-huh. His uncles lived there. He lived with a cousin who was two years older than him. His name was Emiliano. And he said that he loved going to this ranch. Just what you said, it's different airs,
Starting point is 00:52:56 listen to the animals in the fields, and all that kind of stuff. It's something that he liked a lot. Of course. He arrives, the first day he has a good time, playing with his cousin. After a couple of days, the cousin mentions to him, during one of these late hours of games, he gets in, he's too tired, he gets in to eat and drink something, and he's in the kitchen. And he mentions that he says the following. If you hear a whistle during the night,
Starting point is 00:53:30 or if they call you, don't answer. If you hear three whistles, enter the house, lock yourself, lock everything, and if possible, hide. The kid tells that, obviously, in the mind of a kid, the first thing he thinks is, he's not playing a joke. My cousin is older, so he thinks that maybe Wow. completely, well, clear when his aunt, who was also in the kitchen, was serving a plate of food, too. I told her ¨Listen. At this moment the child is clear, right? What he should do. That same night, Paco,
Starting point is 00:54:16 he slept with his cousin. He wrote in the bedroom, a small bedroom with two individual beds. Let´s remember that it was a ranch. They had a window. However, the window was only a mosquito net type. Ok. So they wouldn't let the animals in. And they say that during the night, already asleep, this kid starts listening to the first whistle. He gets up, he gets into the bed, trying to see what's going on,
Starting point is 00:54:47 and he hears the second whistle. Holy shit. After that, obviously he panics about what he had heard. He turns around to see his cousin sleeping next to him. He goes and wakes him up. And he says, I heard the whistle. Immediately, the first thing the cousin does is, how many whistles are there? Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:09 And right when he's saying those words, the third whip occurs at that moment, both of them panic, the first thing the cousin does is to hide under the bed he, in the middle of the two beds, had a wooden table that acted like a nightstand, if we can call it that he opens a drawer and took out a wooden rosary. The kid also hides under the bed. He doesn't pray, he doesn't do anything particular. However... ...the youngest one can see that he's squeezing him with all the anxiety in the world. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Because he already knew what was going to happen. Of course. He already had the context. At that moment... ...a blow was heard on the ceiling. Let's remember that they are ceiling of the context. At that moment, a hit was heard on the ceiling. Let's remember that they are ceiling-to-ceiling. So, it was quite frightening. Sure.
Starting point is 00:55:52 And after that, they managed to hear a particular sound, which are like nails, claws, on the ceiling. And they all come down when they hear a woman's voice, they write her that says where are my children I know they are awake after that it was a few minutes eternal for them in which they were under the bed hidden their uncles they seemed not to hear for some reason Until after a while they manage to hear a loud sound.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Quite loud. I mean, it wasn't like a small bird. Yes. It leaves. And there ends the night. Obviously, they don't sleep. These kids stay awake. And the first thing they do in the morning during breakfast with the uncles... ...is tell them this. The youngest one sees how his uncle... eh... he knew what was happening, but he didn't feel so surprised.
Starting point is 00:56:51 He says, it's not the first time that the witch of the Cerro del Poniente goes down. Ok. Ok. Emiliano, his older cousin, during that day, tries to to do his best because this little boy forgets everything. He goes to play, they go for a walk around the ranch and all that kind of stuff. Ok. He's still tense. He manages to calm his nerves a little bit. However, it's something that... ...imagine the terror he lived that night so that he forgets everything in one day, right? So, that same night...
Starting point is 00:57:28 ...they're already asleep, normal, but now what wakes them up is a scream from a woman. Here is a little bit of context. In the next house they were also family members. It was an aunt who lived with her 5-year-old daughter. So, they hear the scream, they wake up now, all the uncles, Emiliano and the little boy, and they run because they know directly where the sound comes from. And when they get home, at first they see nothing, and they find the aunt, a scene worthy of a horror movie, they find the aunt with the little girl in her arms in the room.
Starting point is 00:58:05 The unconscious girl fainted. Then they spend the night with them. They offer to stay to see what happened to the girl and, apart from that, to see for her safety. Sure. When the girl wakes up, they put a little cotton with alcohol so she can regain consciousness. Yes. Obviously, when the girl wakes up, she's still quite affected by what had happened. She's a 5-year-old girl. Sure.
Starting point is 00:58:32 This happens. When they manage to calm her down, they start eating something, talking in the living room, trying to calm the tension of the environment. And when the girl can talk, when she feels safe, the auntie asks her, what happened to you? What's wrong? The girl says, as is. The ugly woman with wings wanted to take me. But I saved an old lady. Okay? The girl, well, we go back to the same thing, a little girl, maybe she didn't have a clue of everything. But after a while, being there in the room, she realizes that this old lady, there is a picture of her hanging. It turns out that
Starting point is 00:59:18 she was the grandmother of the girl. She passed away six years ago. Okay. So, that's where they stay during the assault. During that time, the family returns... The main family, Emiliano and his parents, return home. And well, that's where this little... This night ends. During the following days, it was a pretty difficult week. Because a lot of this happened, that you had already mentioned in your story. Animal noises. I mean, the burrow.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Uh-huh. Bugs, roosters, goats, dogs barking and all this kind of events. And well, at the beginning, in a place like a ranch where there is not much noise... Of course. ...nor a lot of light. Only the moonlight accompanies you. And hearing those noises at night is usually quite notorious. Okay. There comes a point where they get tired of this situation. So, Emiliano's dad, along with other men from the town, who was far away, describes this person that the nearest towns were half a kilometer away. This was the outskirts of Puebla too. I forgot to mention this. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:00:29 They get together. We go back to the context of the other times. They were armed. Of course. And what they do is... A group of people, men obviously, all of them, go to the hill of the west. They set up a camp. And they say, if we don't manage to finish this entity... At least we don't have to fear it. Wow. the first whistle. Immediately everyone is alert, with weapons in hand. Second whistle, a lot of tension between them, and when the third whistle arrives, they manage to hear
Starting point is 01:01:14 this characteristic flutter of a big bird, they see it coming down the hill. Immediately, everyone takes their positions, this is already narr is already told by Emiliano's dad, they shoot this creature, it falls to the ground, but just before it touches the ground, it tells that it completely dematerialized. Ok. So it was a kind of sweet taste in which they don't know if they finished with the creature, or if it escaped.
Starting point is 01:01:44 It escaped. Aor if they escaped. A couple of days later, the little boy returns home. However, he continues to communicate with his cousin Emiliano. And he tells him that what happened is that they still listen to those whispers during the night. However, not as... not as often as... as other days. Sure. So, you have to question what happened with this entity. And this makes a lot of sense, Paco, because my grandmother... My grandmother is from San Mateo, Tamaulipas.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Ok. And she used to say this a lot. I mean, there were a lot of stories about witches in that ranch. But something that made me feel... That's why... Each of these stories... I chose them for a reason. Sure. She said that they were actually wild. but something that made me feel that way. That's why I chose each of these stories for a reason. Of course. She said that they were actually wild. I mean, these huge birds.
Starting point is 01:02:30 It's a lot that there are very big trees and in the cup of this tree there were black birds, completely, but inhumanly big. Notice that once I was reading the stories in the mail, there is a story that I am not going to tell today because it is not ready to be told, there is still more information missing, but I am going to spoil it because it is a soldier who sees a very large bird, they send him to one of these missions, they are moving on Earth and they see a bird that catches their attention It was like two meters high more or less Because they say it was very ugly One of them Of the companions of the person who sends us the mail says to try to shoot him, that is, as if he was joking like I'm going to kill you
Starting point is 01:03:25 and that the bird The mailman says he's trying to shoot him, like he's joking, like, I'm going to kill you. And the bird spoke. I mean, he threatened him. He says that everyone was like, But what happened? It happened, right? And while they were looking at each other and turning their eyes, the animal had already flown, it had left. That happened in a place, holy shit. It's within the limits of Puebla and Mexico.
Starting point is 01:03:49 But literally, in a place totally far from civilization. I said, wow! In fact, it's believed... I don't know if you've heard this, Paco, that even... There are people who believe that the Nahuas are immortal. I mean, they don't possess a soul anymore because of all the rituals and things they have to do to develop that which cannot die. That's what I think. And I believe it, I'm going to tell you why.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Maybe not immortal, but they can extend their time in this land too much. Because it is a phenomenon that has been coming for so many years and it keeps happening. And it's not like there are generations in all of the same. I would think that they found the way of... I feel that they can die. But they looked for the way to... Extend their life. Yes. Or, if they change, they can change something.
Starting point is 01:04:50 A component in their body, in their body. I don't know, in their genetics, even. To extend. And we talk about people... If we go back to the past, they eat in the hill. Sure. If we go to the one from before, where they eat on the hill, I mean... Sure. If we go to a logical center, they don't normally live that much with society. They live isolated. So, they have a very different diet.
Starting point is 01:05:15 I don't know. I'm joining some cabitos and I'm trying to understand... Yes, because I thought about it too. They live for too many years. Sure. Because there are ranches that have the recurring visit of a Nahuatl, but he only lived with his grandfather, he lived with his father, and now he lives with his son. And it's the same Nahuatl. Generations are passing by.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Oh, or what's up? So, I don't know. It's a mystery to always talk about Nahuatl. Look, I want to tell you one last story that the good Felipe Martin shares with us. Greetings to Mr. Felipe, a man of more or less 54 years, a fan of the podcast and he tells us something that happened in 1974. He tells us that at that time he was young, he was very young and this happened near Huamantla, Plaxcala. He mentions that at that time he worked at night, taking care of the corn fields, taking care of animals and people who like it or are lovers of the outside world. He says that was his job, and he had a good time because he told me openly, I fell asleep.
Starting point is 01:06:25 He took care of a very large land, several hectares, and he was like a security guard, like a little house, a cabin. Inside he had a hammock, his way of taking care was, or how he explains it to me, yes, while there were lapses he would sleep, and he says that he slept but he always had a flashlight and a machete. So the flashlight was always stuck here because it would darken and, brother, you were halfway through the night. The flashlight. Yes, you were completely dark
Starting point is 01:07:00 and the machete under the stretcher. He said that he would get up, he had his watch, and he had the way, he did three rounds. He said, the truth is, I did them just to do something, because very few times I ran into something.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Normally, the boss says he saw you, because yes, suddenly he was going to see what you were doing and if they saw you walking, well, you're not doing your job well, so he says I already knew more or less what was going on at night, after 12 o'clock, the boss was already approaching us, so he took the opportunity to sleep, yes, then he says but suddenly I woke up, I put the alarm there, it rang, look at it, I got up to see, to walk. There was a time when, like in other areas of other people, they started to rumor and things. The people here in this town mentioned
Starting point is 01:08:05 the topic of witches and nahuas. Mr. Felipe says, I was a kid at that time, I didn't believe in anything and I didn't respect anything. I would listen to the stories that came to my ears and I would say, no, crazy people, there's nothing to do. He never believed in this during his youth.
Starting point is 01:08:26 He didn't take it as something coherent or logical. However, he says there were people who swore to have seen certain things, men becoming animals, very large animals devouring chivos, devouring chickens, and the next day was like the scene of all the disaster they were doing. But that person practically didn't give him importance. He mentions that one night, it wasn't so late, it was even 10 at night. He was in his cabin, in his hammock. And he sat down. He said, I'm going to take a walk.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Normally the boss shows up at this time. I'm going to walk. He says he started walking. Among the plants. And that at about 80, 100 meters he saw the figure of a person walking. He, what he thought at that moment is my boss is the best. He's walking around, it's him. And was going to come to me from the other side to see what I was doing.
Starting point is 01:09:31 So he says, I turned on my flashlight and started walking, sniffing. I was smoking my cigarette and as I was getting closer I noticed something. The person was not my boss. He was a man. A man, but he was an old man. Strangely, he caught my attention because he said... When I was getting closer, I realized he was very drunk, but too much. I mean, it wasn't normal. He was very very drunk.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Ok. And he walked very very slowly. He said, no, he's not my boss. Okay. I don't know, he stole some mazorcas or something so I started running when suddenly he says I see that it's double I start running I get where he was I turn around, everything is dark there was nothing I think they went in to steal
Starting point is 01:10:38 he says he came back dawned he says I'm not going to my house, I'm going to check if he stole, because he says, I realize if they stole, and I'm going to see what else he did, maybe, I don't know, he goes to the same place where he had seen the Lord and he called his attention to something. He says that as it had rained days before, the earth was like, yes, there was like mud. What caught his attention? When he goes to the place where he sees this man or where he was walking, he says that his footsteps were strange. One step is like that man in barefoot life, he was on one foot, It's like they showed you barefoot. It was a foot. And another step was like a horse.
Starting point is 01:11:29 It was like having a horse leg and a human foot. You realize why there's one step and the other one in front. What the hell? I checked the path of the steps. At some point they were lost. But no, I didn't steal anything. There were no traces of him cutting something. Everything was in order.
Starting point is 01:11:52 What could it be? He was caught by the attention because he said to Don Felipe that he has always been very logical. That this was what was going on. No, but what's up with the footprints? Days went by logic, no? like the grass, everything was drying up, everything dried up. He says, I was in charge of watering the whole maintenance, everything, I mean, it wasn't a contaminated land of mushrooms or things that are eaten or that cause this kind of situation.
Starting point is 01:12:40 All the way, I mean, something long was was totally dry, stopped giving fruits. That caught his attention, he spent the nights until at some point he saw it again. He says it was a little later, it was near 1 am, he says, I started to hear first that the crowd, as there were people who had a lot of dogs everywhere, the barking of dogs, but loud, not all neighbors. Or he started barking a dog and they were barking twenty at some point, as if they were answering. And I started to hear the crowd, the noise everywhere. He says, well, you should take care of me. Dije, a lo mejor alguien va a entrar y los perros se dieron cuenta. Me levanté, dice, me puse las botas, tomé el machete, tomé
Starting point is 01:13:30 mi linterna. Y nuevamente cuando empecé a caminar a adentrarme en el sembradío, vi al señor. Dice, ahora sí lo voy a perseguir. Dice, apague la linterna y decidí empezar a caminar a oscuras pero este señor tenía un sombrero de estos como de pueblo de estos que son como de paja muy grande dice ese señor por alguna razón notó mi presencia y me volteó a ver dice cuando me volte a ver es el efecto que tienen algunos felinos o todos los felinos que notizan no que He says, when I turned around to see, it's the effect that some cats have, or all cats. That they hypnotize. No, that their eyes had a reflection.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Literally, it's like they had light in their eyes. And yes, he had a very heavy, very strong look. And that's when he realizes, he says, that this part of his face was like a bat. He says, brother, it was like a bat. He says, obviously I see this because I was already very close to him, and it was only the moonlight. He says, I turn on the flashlight and indeed I had everything, I mean, the whole face was covered with hair, everything, everything, everything. Nose like that, like a bat, everything. At that moment he says, I stop, I mean, like you say, wait, what is this?
Starting point is 01:14:55 And this man began to bend, bend, bend, bend, bend, bend, and he began to walk, to run. And he says, I see the moment where, from running normally, he began to bend while he says I see the moment where to run normally he went cramping while he was running and he started doing this to run in his four extremities I did not know what to do he says what I did at that moment was to return to close I made sure to close well precisely what you what you mentioned, he used a scapular. The scapular is removed, he squeezes it with all his strength and he stayed praying. He says, until dawn.
Starting point is 01:15:36 I didn't want to go out, I didn't care if my boss came and saw who I was in here. I didn't go out until dawn. Until I saw that the first rays of the sun were coming. I opened the door with fear. Everything was normal, everything was calm. Some farmers were passing by to work the land. I was scared, I was sick a bad mood. One of them saw me and said, well, what's up, Felipe? I told them. And they started laughing.
Starting point is 01:16:12 What? They don't believe me? They said, no, it's just that we've seen him already, but you said this didn't exist. You had to see him. No, don't worry, he doesn't do anything. Or, well, I hope it's nothing. This man says that since then, he tells me, and I'm going to read it textually,
Starting point is 01:16:33 because he mentions, I didn't take care of myself at night anymore. I learned that there are things that shouldn't be watched, and that darkness doesn't always hide thieves. Sometimes it hides something that does not even have a name The fact of touching twice with this He was enough to stop working at least in this part that is to take care of at night these types of places that if
Starting point is 01:16:58 Many times they are too quiet. It is like the night pantheons are Quiet I have been in many pantheons and if I can tell you of 10 tranquilos es como los panteones de noche son tranquilos o se yo estado en muchos panteones y si te puedo decir de 10 9 son super tranquilos hay mucha paz pero uno no sé por qué pero uno tiene como una carga no no sé explicarlo pero si son son pesados algunos si que opines no atención en el ambiente más que nada si si justo que ahorita mencionabas dos veces bastaron. Pues no, que es una tercera. No, claro. No, imagínate. Y me hizo sentir un par de cosas
Starting point is 01:17:34 que también ya había escuchado sobre esto que mencionabas que mientras caminaba la, pues se puede decir vegetación Sí. por la que cruzaba. Se iba secando. Se iba secando. Y sí, de hecho hay personas que creen que pues el hecho de que por la naturaleza de estas criaturas tiene una vibra tan negativa Yes. It was drying. Yes, it was drying. Yes, it was drying. And yes, in fact, there are people who believe that, well, the fact that by nature these creatures have such a negative vibe. Yes.
Starting point is 01:17:50 By everything that implies, well, what they are, that causes that effect in... Of course. And not only in this kind of... I mean, in the plants and all this, but in itself, being in front of these creatures, the presence, just like that... Its vibrate, right? Uh-huh. It's a pretty negative load. Ah, it's awesome. The truth is that this story, I mean, it impressed me a lot. But, well, we're almost on the final stretch, brother. Okay. I also have a story. This is a little shorter.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Okay. And it's different. Very weird, Paco. So, I'd like, once we're done, you tell me what you think. Okay. I would like, once we finish, that you tell me what you think. Ok. I was sent a person, the one from veterinary medical professions, until he always caught my attention. After a while he manages to gather the economic capital to set up his office. Yes. And everything goes normally. He has clients sporadically. He goes up in, well, this...
Starting point is 01:18:42 In his reputation. Uh-huh. He's having more people. Until one day, he says it was a Friday at 10 at night, he was having more people. Until one day, it was a Friday at 10 pm, he was about to close. He was just getting off these typical metal curtains in the business. When a man approached him. He described him having a worn hat. His clothes were also worn a lot.
Starting point is 01:19:04 And he had a coat on his back. Look how everything made sense. It seems like we agreed on the previous story. But the coat moved. I imagine he has a dog on his coat. And the person says, he's still tending. He, in order not to look rude or anything, says, of course, come in. They pass him. He, with the intention of not being rude or anything, says ¨Of course. Come in.¨. They pass him. He takes him to this metal plate type where they combine the animals. And he says that he takes out a puppy. He described him about two years ago.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Very skinny. I imagine he was small. Uh-huh. Two years. He was a puppy, I think. In fact, he asks about the breed and he says ¨I don´t know what me imagino. Ajá. Dos años. Era un perrito criollo. De hecho, le pregunta la raza y él dice no sé qué raza es. Lo recogí de un blote baldío prácticamente. Me dio, pues, pena verlo. Y lo traje conmigo. Además de que esté herido de una pata. Ok. Pata delante a derecha. Entonces examina al perro y dice lo primero que ve pues es que era muy he was very skinny, that he was very careless, but also the eyes. Always in the eyes...
Starting point is 01:20:09 There's something, right? There's something. They say they are the windows of... The windows of the soul. The soul. And he said it wasn't that the dog didn't see that he had pain, even though he was injured, that he saw it more as if he was upset, as if the dog was very angry. Ok.
Starting point is 01:20:25 He says that... And this... I have a family that are veterinarians and by protocol he tries to establish a connection with the animal before examining it. Sure. And he gets aggressive and that kind of things. So, he tries to touch it... ...and he grunts the dog. The grunting is quite serious. He realizes that the man doesn't immute himself or anything... and he grunts the dog in a pretty serious grunt. He realizes that the man doesn't mutate or anything and he says, well, to fix this I'm going to have to sedate him
Starting point is 01:20:53 because it looks like the dog is aggressive. He says, okay, it doesn't matter. He asks a very strange question. Hey, but he was going to wake up. Of course, he takes it as, maybe he's ignorant about the subject, how these substances work. Yes, there is no problem. If he likes, he can wait for me in the waiting room, where I do what I have to do with the animal, or he will take a radiography to see that I do not have a fracture,
Starting point is 01:21:18 and then cure his leg. He says that he applies this sedative, but normally it only took 5 minutes for the dog to... Yes. This dog didn't. He had something very particular, the body of the little animal was still tense, and the eyes didn't close completely, it was as if he was conscious all the time. Ok, as if he didn't have anesthesia. As if he didn't have the anesthesia. Like he didn't do the anesthesia. That's correct. And...
Starting point is 01:21:47 ...he ends up doing what he should have done. Fortunately, the dog didn't attack him or anything. He takes out the x-rays, makes sure he doesn't have the fracture. He gives it to the man. And the dog enters. He tells that he only charged him with the material. I mean, he didn't charge the whole process in general because he looked... Yes, of course. He assumed he was a humble person because of how he was dressed and how he brought the dog. He thanked him, he retired, and he said that after that same week,
Starting point is 01:22:18 he started to smell something very particular in the veterinary. Weird. Like blood. Uh-huh. And rotten meat. Wow. Fernando ah ah ah ah ah ah Fernando ah
Starting point is 01:22:48 ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah where they put the dogs, either by sweat or by... Yes. Anything that had to pass the night, they also had a container where, well... ...the garbage was emptied.
Starting point is 01:23:09 The only thing that was missing were the gauze, all the material they used to cure the dog. Okay. To this dog. Okay. After a few days, the same man arrives. Now he arrives without the dog. Okay? He says thank you very much for playing the dog. This that I'm giving you, the envelope, the radiography, do not keep it, destroy it. Ok?
Starting point is 01:23:53 He is quite surprised, he takes out the radiography and tells that he does radiography of the whole dog too. Or so he did it. They say that specifically in the area of the thorax... ...you can see... First, a diffuse stain. But this stain was left by a humanoid. A small humanoid. Inside the animal. Inside the animal. As if it was practically a fetus. To put it in some way.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Obviously, the first thing you think is that it's a very bad joke. And you say, -"Please, sir, leave this place. It's not funny." Sure. And the man, excuse me, as he leaves, turns around and says, -"Thank you for saving me." What?
Starting point is 01:24:39 Obviously, he tells that after this... Number one, he started to close the veterinary more early. Of course. And number two, he continues to think about this very strange case. Thank you for saving me. I mean, I think what he's trying to say this story or propose is that these nahuas may have a kind of human container, to put it in a way. I mean, the dog... In a way, the man was connected to the man. Yes. Was it his spiritual animal? Do you want to say it like that? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Yes, of course. The story is very real. It's just that, within the culture or the belief of the Nahuas, it's said that every human being has... A spiritual animal. A spiritual animal, of course. A spiritual animal. How interesting. I mean, it blew my mind. It's strange, but it's very good, brother. I mean, I said it when we started this recording and I repeat it again. Really, the theme of the nahuas is one of the most mysterious themes,
Starting point is 01:25:41 but also at the same time so fascinating because I'm sure of something, there are many in the whole world with different labels and names but like magic, each one has to have the way in which he gets it whether it's people who probably get it to have the gift naturally, by inheritance maybe those who made a pact, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:08 I mean, each one has to have a different and unique way to reach that level of consciousness and knowledge. Wow, brother. How did you have a good time? Very good. Very comfortable, really, brother. No, man, thank you. I had a good time. Hey, what a good talk we had. What good stories. Remember your social media. Eh... stories. Remember our social media. Eh... Dark stories in all social media.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Perfect, bro. You can follow the content. No man, thank you. Really, thank you because well, people don't know it but our brother traveled from far away to be with us. And really, what a good talk. It's a topic that fascinates me. Family, I invite you all to to go to their channel, subscribe And also, before you go, please subscribe too, here since you are here Many people watch the episodes, few subscribe And if you listen to us in the podcast media too
Starting point is 01:26:56 And remind you that there were two stories pending But since they are too strong and bloody They have to go somewhere else. I'm just going to say that the one I missed describes a panther, a being of the same type, but that they found him profaning bodies inside the pantheon. Wow. This is... I mean, you're going to hear it in a while, but if you would like it too, Wow.

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