EXTRA ANORMAL - Le Leí las Cartas a una Persona y su Demonio me Atacó Ft Isabel Pino

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, contamos con la presencia de Isabel Pino, quien nos revela cómo comenzó a descubrir su don para ver sombras y entidades oscuras. A lo largo de los años, Isabel ha perfeccionado su conocimiento y hoy enseña a otros el arte del Tarot. Sin embargo, no todo ha sido fácil, y en este capítulo, nos cuenta la terrorífica experiencia en la que, al leerle las cartas a una persona, fue atacada por su demonio. Una historia llena de misterio, enseñanza y eventos paranormales que no querrás perderte. 🔔 No olvides suscribirte y activar la campana para más relatos sorprendentes!

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that's like, drawing a that's that I never had heard. That's

that rost that's that the child. And I saw how the entity was coming

and I started and to get to and to then I pared outside of the

circle that's that was in my dream and the entity me

started to attack to me. How much more than a podcast extra normal. My name is Paco Arias, and I'm very happy to be

in an episode of October sinistro for all of you. And as well, this episode is very special because we have a one invite of a luxury, a person who came from Merida

Yucatan and that apart many of you are people are you need to us today

we're saying Isabel Pino Flores how is Issa Hello Paco much

for the introduction and for the invitation to Tuxtepec is an honor to get to

us much much thank thank you much thank you thank thank

thank you thank you for accept the invitation the reality is that what

What chido that you did the opportunity to have been and kind of that you're here visiting our house, your and house of

your house of all of you. Thank you. And, before I would like it for the people that just

are just know that they're sure that are many of the people who are there are some, but if there can't say who

you can't say my name is Isabel Pinoflores I'm, well, I mean, I dedicate to the cards. I'm Cartomante, but

apart I'm Medium. I've got a licensature in literature that also this way of this way of buske of of knowledge. And I'm going to my media social, in Instagram, and in Facebook, how Isabel Pino Flores. So, me can't find out. Okay.

Thank you, Isa. I'm sure that many people, you've been in the channel of PEPO, that we'll send a salute. And, of really, thank you, because he has passed your contact and the Acercements, thanks to him.

Muchismas thanks. I would start, I know the majority know how we know how we need a

podcast always with the question of the million. I'm going to substitute because it

obvious, for who is about the question. Here the question would change it

for, in what moment changed your life, in what you know, because right

mentioned something, the time of the literature to give to the

book to the question, in what moment, Isabel, took an asercamient

with the world spiritual, the world of the paranormal, so could say.

Y'ol, is that have been various things, no? I mean, I,

I've perceived things that the other not. And obviously, as I commented in

other podcasts, in other platforms, in the moment of the infancy,

one, no, no, no, they're saying, oh, yeah, that's not normal, no? So, so, more or

less, in the moment in which I began to perceive that there something that I perceived things different, it was like

in the adolescence, that was like when all this was a potency and they're to be changes and

all this. And when I found amisties and people, no, that were there. But I

that my moment more can't about these things, especially with

what I think I'm now, that's the thing of the one of the one of the

carnaval a day of a day of that they're things that I got there were some

there's some the barage Spanish okay so I'm so I'm my

Boppa this how it's how it's how it's how it's how it's and I'm

I said, no, well, this is this, this is the other, and so. And, um, and me he said, my mom, I'd read with these cards. And I said, ah, ch'n. So, your abuelita? My abuela. A, my, I, I know, I was, in my life, and never I never ever, ever, okay. Okay.

No, it was precisely a abuela, you know, you know. So, um, so, um, and I, you know, I asked my father, and how it was how it did he? My son, no, I don't know. Never me he said, well,

if my mother could, well, I mean I can't, you know? And, then, in a college

of monjas, in a college religious, I, to my, my gita, then I, I'd,

I'd like, in the recreo. Wow, so, is a, a sono, catolico?

Yes, I've been a family very Catholic. Okay. So, my mom, that's a

Catholic, apostolica, romana, no? I mean, But, but I knew that it was

a little not so because we we'd we're in the mothers for, to be

to do that. Until that one day, um, I, I said, no,

to one of my of my little, that that was going to go to

something, that his popas would be to get and he and he and he

came, the cards the cards you know? Yes. I saw I, I mean,

I mean, it's of what I saw in the cards, like what I transmitted was a image, no, of his papa to pay him

to my friend to the school. And yeah. And, and, and then, she, all the days,

she got her all the cinturoneada, and so the problem was that she was he said, because he's

a girl, because it's a bruise, that no-se- what, no-se- and so, and then

in that college, it also, too, I mean functioned as, There were in in innings that were internas

and there were we're external, no? So, the nines internas and everything me started to say, no? You're going to cause with the mother that, no, that's what, that's that's, that's... And obviously,

in that's, they're in the school. No, man, sure. I said, what are you going to do? A me came from carter a juggio. Yeah, no? So, um... And I gave with my papa

and I did the cards and I said, Papi, this, guard them. I mean, I mean, but

for the fact of that I, in my criteria of a new year, I, I was

I was just about to imagine things. And, and one of those,

that, even in that same college, they're almost me expulsed. Okay.

Because he has to know that in that college there, there was an

explanate very great Yeah. There were, I mean, in where they were some, there were

some salons about and there were in those salons about, that was a college, that was an old,

an infirmate. And I imagine the vivor that's the place. Exactly. No, and that

also, for the era of the Christera, yeah, fungio from, because that

was the condition for the which those militaries permitted that the that the monjas

that were convento and this orphanato they permitted that they

were in the orphanate because for the orphanato then just they said keepens

the habits use in rob of civil and they're in the church

and they they're in then then then so it was

it was they're an was an an edifico not of the time of

the porphyriato okay and this and the and the part of the area of the part of

there were some salons and some escalers that they'd to give them a passio

grand that were where were where they were in the part of that was

in where was the theater that was where in where we're there was the comendor

of the internas the lavadero and all the other and the other was the other

was So, that's a torre, it was a terrain and until the date, much of that's, of that's, he's,

still, still, continue to be a mountain, and yeah, then there was the murro that,

but I'm, so I'm, so, I'm, you know, I'm, so, I'm, so, I, because,

because, I'm, because, I'm, I'm, yeah, that's, in the

time, in the time, the porphyria to, maybe a little after, no, no,

imagineate, how many, much, so, so, So, so I, I was in a house and I studied in a college, then with installations

antivus. So in the part of the college, it was the part of the head. And the part of the college were there were an edifices very similar. But in where I lived in where the mothers, and where they'd live in the kids, that were internas. So in the part of the theater, you know, you know, is that

in, well, it's a scenario, but there were a part that was a passillo, that was like for that one is guard and one's then you know but all

us never really because it was like a pastimee's very obscure and I was a little bit more a bit more

we'd be we're going to get more because it's ultra mega obscure okay okay

and I I was and I was and I went and I was sentia that someone me was

going to and me regress and I but you know one is to be

a little bit of a and one of that's I'm like I slay to a

little bit and I started to get to me like a so I'm so I

imagine to imagine a story of a of a of a a of a

that was that was that was in the orphanato that was

an and that he he he he at to start

to the call he knows a muchachio because she she grew there and

he's a little bit of a little he's a kid and he's he wants to get

with him but the mothers no the mothers that were they were not they

didn't because yeah they had decided that she had to become

in mother too in a momha for to continue

in the college no okay okay so then and that

and that he intent to escape and that he felled to the murro and the agarled those perils because the

mothers sold to the dogs in the nights and that they and that's and that they lastimed

so that's so I think in that in that this time this was not a theater it was like

like a mini carcelcelita a place in where they're in turn a

person and they were they're they're they in the mothers

to castigar for that for that not she will be to get a serpent

and he was a mordy and when when when they got the

they found they were desvivied no all that all you imagine and

yeah yeah and and in that and and so and then and then

then then after after then they're and they're they're and

then here all the nights it's all the Alma of this this

young, this muchach that, not in a man, it was a man, that's out of the

doors, and so all the doors and so I'm to the kids, to the

internas that they were in the school, okay. How to them? Well,

I was, I was, like, my intention to espantarla we, we're talking

with stories of terror, and then I'm to tell that that came

to be to be there in the theater in the And, obviously, the nines

had to senar, and their pass to, the way to say to that's the place.

So, then it was to be a terror collective, because they was that were the

laments, that were that, the, that'sotable, and all that, and that,

and that they, and that they're, they're, they're doing the world, and the mothers,

so, so, then they put to investigate, and they're with me. And I, and they're

they're like, I mean, they're that's because I'm saying, that because I'm what, well,

there's my mom, well, I mean, I'm like, I'm like, my dad my dad

was, that's, that's, that's, no, so my mom, she was,

my mom, she was like, but my father was like, oh, it's a man, it's a imagination, so,

no. In imagination. She, and so, and so, so, when he's when you're

when you're inventing stories, this, scrivelas or, you know, don't you don't end

to your people who live in a college, no? And, and yeah, no,

because, because, my parents had to pay a money, for that not me

expulsar, I, me explain. Because at final, a college private, so,

then, questions of privileges, no? So, well, years after,

that was, that was, like for fourth of primary more or less for sixth

of primary so can't an anniversary of the foundation of the

college as and then and they're photos that when

was an orphanatorio you did you I'm to say that I'm

so I visualized with certain racos in some facions in

her carita, his appearance, no? And, well, for my surprise, in one of

the photos, there was she was she. Like, as well as that, like you I had

imagined. Wow. And, obviously, I mean, I remember that in a nina,

like, me erice horrible, I was in class, I'm in primary, and I

kept so like, what's what's what, so, it's, it's,

it, I mean, in that moment, I, no, no, no, no, I mean, oh, not, I mean, not, no, no, it's like, rationalize, like, oh, it's like, oh, hey, I, that's, no,

no, just, oh, well, and continue to play, but, in, in that, in that moment, for me, was, like, one of the most canonical,

that me, that me, um, something, no, okay, no, not I'm,

not I, you, of the girl's. Yes. So, there, with the thing of

the cards and with the theme of that story, I mean? Confirmast. Well, more than

to confirm, or so, in my, in my, in my, in my, in my, I'm trying

to, like, to explain to the language in the that I used in

that I, so, so, what I did me myself was, something,

something, something, no, I, I mean, no, no, I'm not, I'm normal. Yeah. Okay. In that moment,

that, well, you know, you know, this type of revelations, and in cartas, like, this revelation, I'm atrebo to say, in the theme, of what happened

in the place, the antecedent, the time of the new, well, the adolescent, and, well, pass a better life.

Empeasas to pass things after, in what moment, like, you took, I, I mean,

is of a son, Catholic. We know that the thing Catholic satanize in the thing of drugeria,

chisery, and all this thing. In what moment, you know, you're like this

conviction to say, I think I don't do that this side, I have more

to come. How was? Oh, and that was much time because I just in that I

felt things, I, I, another of the experiences, in this I don't see I

had told before in another platform. was that my my brother was studying a maestri

in psychology my my my mom my mother he used to make a lot is that we

had a house super different for a house because it was a house very a house

a family a man who's okay I'm okay I'm in that house in places specific I sentia

things rarer. I sentia people that were looking at, I sentia in the obscurity, I don't come in a rapid me going to grab, no? Yeah. And I, one of the adult and says, well, it's that one is a little a little, but

because it was a house very great and with many zones oscuras. But I felt the places specific. So, no, me passed in any other places, no, it were places specific of the house.

Okay. And I, I always said, is that I feel that there, I mean, I mean, I I feel that there something there. And I said to have said

to the woman. He said, in that court, in that part of the house,

there's a my brother. My man, but then, but he goes to

the chaman, canalisa the and he says, there's there's there's

in tals and in the places that are exactly those that I had said.

That that I think for me was the confirmation of that I definitely was in

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woman was like, okay, no? I had, my brother, for example, I, we, we, we,

dorms in a maca, no? Yes. So, she always dormium, we were, and she's

in the maca, and she always was always he said, no, I was, I was a

nine, 10 years, for a thing, how I'm going to know, I'm going to

So, I said, my my woman, no saques your hair, you're going to

do you're going to do you don't you're going to get to do you're to get a lot of

a day of this. And until what's no manches. So, a time

after I saw, I, I saw, my mother's before I did you,

and I did you, I'm and he did you, yeah, I'm too,

manches. So, so, so, that that was, that was, that was,

like my confirmation, the of the mothers and all that was like the things that were going to but there

in those moments was like in the in the I said something I don't until the day I don't

doorme with the light completely apada you recommend Issa that the

people doorming with the light completely oscura because for there there are

situations that are in internet that's in, well,

in various platforms, of the those specks those specks those specks that not

reflects light, like, like, pantries of television, the same the same

of your telephone, spejos normal, there's a sinfine that, well,

that the spaces, but you recommend that the people doorma with

completely apagated because I'm this, I am a person that I

can't do not to be there light. I need I need obscurity absolute because

as I'm my abuelita, she was of all. I don't want to light of the

light. So, it was so much that I had the eyes completely obscured, and

there was a little light and you had a little bit of you didn't even because

no have nothing. But there actually, for the thing of my other

things, we we're like we we're we're a lot of But you recommend

that the people do like? I think every everyone know, I'm in

absolute obscurity, me do you know, I mean, uh, a little anxiety or is part of what

I've got but I'm I mean, my was, my woman was to, I was,

to, and I'm, and I felt, the energies to me around, I mean,

I'm, I'm, I'm, um, how they were, and they were and how

we're rodeable in the maca. Or, and a I mean I pass

that I'm a maca like when when someone it's like that's...

Oh, this is the rosson. Yes, but the part where is the soga

like someone so I'm so I'm so I don't I mean I always I always always

I always would always I'd to have a lot because the because the light

the car and all but I don't want I mean until the I have to have to

have to be a I mean, me, I mean, I'm in a good, much,

I'm in middle of the obscurity, so, um, for those, for those moments,

I was, I, I started, in my adolescence, I was, like, like,

to live, like, like, yeah, energies more, uh, uh,

and they're, they're, and I'm to manifest in my dreams, uh, the

nothing, I I would get to vomit, of the nothing, without having

eaten, in that then I, for example, I've lived in other than I was,

I had you had been nothing to all the day, and I would have, at the morning,

to get, so, you know? So, and that same night, for example, my her man,

so know, that I was trying to a little, no, so, so, in the

adolescence, I, me refuged much in the church, no, because I,

But it's the only that you're going to go to the misa Yes, no I'm at the 16 years that was when

I started to feel more the energies like many many paralysis of sleep attacks of entities

et cetera et cetera that I in my house because I know it's a house

very great with much with much things until the still still

that I, that I, that I, that's, that I'm, that I'm, to see me to see a, to be my papas, because, because I was, because my mom had to, no, I mean, no, I mean, no, I mean, no, I don't, no, I want to, with, with what's, with what was happening in the nights, no? Yeah. And, well, I, well, I met, even apostolados. I, I mean, I was, I was, chica, of postolados, I, so, I was, a time before, me

I went with the Jesuitas, no, at the 17 years I went with the years.

I took two times the retiros Ignatianos of Ignacio of Loyola

that is the founder of the funder of the fact I think I was

like of the people most young that have those exercises

at at in, I in, I in Merida in

I have been the people that have that has taken because

Crucially, are people of the age, no? Okay. But for some reason, the Jesuites me, they were so interested,

no, that they're to take it even being a more of age. Wow. And, this,

and, and I remember that one of the sacerdotes me said, I'm going to get to Monjita.

In serious? Wow. I'm still in this moment. Salos to not the number.

No, so it's not just, no, more, that was that it's

Right, right mentioned is something that much people that's the podcast and different podcasts, I'm

sure that have lived. And it's one of the experiences more aterradoras that one person can

get to live at the moment of the paralysis of the soion. For much

it means many things attacks, simply a state mental, a state of the

life, for you what you mean, what you think it's a little no?

When, because they say, sometimes you you're very very stasado,

so it's a failure of the brain. I feel that we've been much in the

world rational and we've done the part intuitive, no if there is a

part that can have to be with the thing that you don't you know

you're your mind so your mind's but your mind's but your body

and it's no but it's that in the process you can't you can't a

an alucination. And other thing is, I mean, to see, that me is a little,

the odor of that something that's going to, to be a little bit of a little to be

what I'm going to get to the reflexo and that when I reaction I have the

marks in my hands. That's that is a difference very abysmal of when when,

then just just, you know, just, for to you have a significate spiritual. Yes. I mean,

many times, it depends on the context, me I'm explaining not you can't move, you dolemes and then you

dolemes and then you know? So, no? So, no? And, sure, that generates much stress because what's what's, what's

what's when you're when you're and when you know, when you know, when you get those, and so that's,

so that's that's other that's other rolloo. I mean, I know that my Cerever is making a

mind, not, Oh, I mean, I mean, oh, so, because I, I said, me, oh, look, and he gave the mark, like if me had been agarred here in the muke. Yes. And it had in my two mukees and in my, in my stovillo. Okay.

Oh, yeah, I see, I've got, well, and in this point, that you know what was your infancy, your adolescence, how was your approach to all this world, so mysticco, so interesting, too, because all those who are here, we're interested in this time,

when you know, you find this side. I mean, I remember that I'm

talking to people who they're doing at the magic, brujeria and chisery and I

said, it's very beautiful, clear, the theme of the knowledge. But also

there's the part I don't see, I'm the negative, that is when you

was being the crudeness of the things, the, the things that

are so things that are that can be people, well,

in that point, that's, you know, it's a, primarily to you,

because, people have talked obviously, of certain attacks spiritual, of,

for example, when you need to a maldition, a maleficia, a person,

the other person, who did to defend the work that is something, something?

One one of the first times that I to read a letter to the

people, not, to the public. And he asked if a ex had done

what, that's what, and the cards said, and the many a very rare a

way, they say that's when it about the time. And he I said,

you, you're going to receive notices of her and so, and

so it and he kept so. And at a little time me

he said he said he's he's but I don't want to go back

with her. But something says that I go over with her but

I don't want me said you do desaces and desaches and he said

we can we can't try romper lasos no and this and

and and we we we did we just we we did

literally with a tigera romp a cord with the with a

little that's the and that's and I remember that night I'm I'm

I'm I'm quite and I felt like I don't know I'm not because

the chab didn't be of here of Mexico completely no okay

it was I don't I remember if it was of Guatemala I don't I think

it was like it was like I'm Debelis okay And, um, and I visualized to the chava, or so,

only the rostro of the chava, no, like, what's happening? And, yeah, at the few days, uh, me, me, he said, he was going to put in contact with me,

because he had blocked of his red, that through other red, he was going to put in contact with him and that he wanted to go back with him, and he this time, he, this time,

he could put to put on a alto and not care. Yeah. Nothing, nothing with her. And he

said, I think if it's like a effect placebo, but then I said,

I said, I said, I said, I'm a dream, and tell me if it's right.

Your ex is so, and so, and so, and he said, no manches so.

And I didn't me, to me, to me had to no to me Like, of the

of the times that I'm going to receive, like, many messages of the people,

when I when I was, after the first of the first of the first of, I'm, I'm going to

get to the people. That's is more denser. Because it was a little,

but it was a child that was a guy, but it was a child that's, well,

I've never had completely the context, no? this chava he's

they were going to things terrible and things like they were things that were

in risk to put in risk of their life and the life of the the thing the

was that in one of those she had had to be a repos because he had

passed so many things and he had passed so many things

that was that was that was that was in a men to to be the baby.

And that was there sat down in her room, not in a chair, in her room, a lot of

a lot, dobbling a rope. Uh-huh. And that the nada, the sill she was

to rune and she went to back and she went to and all the and all the they were doing

to get to get to and when when they were the chair it was like it was like

it was that it was that's that's of the way like she would be in a

court a limp like she had enzerrochated and when she said when she

she said the various things that had had had been she

she had she with a woman that she was

with an an entity that she was to be to

that before that she was before she had

been involved with a person and all that

in this, but then the marido when she was to cast her and he

he was he and he and he so this woman what he did was

was to mandarles an entity like a a a a

and she and she and she she started and

she was she she was she she she was she she

she she knew she she knew she she knew she she was

when was recurrent, she was going to defend of that she had been in barasada

because she in his same dream, he was so she was to defenders to the

entity. Okay. That was that a dananava and he and he and he

and he and he and he was, and he said, I said, that's not

not so that's not so I'm then, then I said to her, she and all his family

they were what were what they're going to to do this, they're doing the other,

I'm not going to they're doing in a rancho. I'm going to

get to use to use the and they're to use the piece of the letter

did they're doing the little all the house, all the family participated.

And the and the first night of the vallations and they did you

the circle of protection with the cenis and all so

so I I'm on my altar, a bellator for them,

no? Uh, uh, uh, for, for to come those.

And I sawne with the rancho with the house, or so with the house that

was there. Uh-huh. And like if I was a, like in the umbrale

in where was the the circle that the protection that had done.

And I saw how the entity was so to and to

get so I I'm so I'm so I'm in my dream and the

entity and the entity to attack to me and he and he to start

and then then I put it into the circle in my dream and

I'm I'm like three 30 and the morning

wow no and so and then then I did I did my my

my to sleep. This, when I when I I'm so I'm

so, I'm inched, and here there's like a line, no,

here. In that then I don't use a unas. Okay. In this

then I, my little little, and in that I didn't use a unias

and this, and, uh, and, uh, not for the

stuff, and, and, so, I, I put in contact with the

family, and I was I said, how they went, how

passed on the first night, it's the most important. So,

is the most the most very. And he said, we're we're

we're to get to the long, and I said, and you did,

and your house, and I'm the chab and I said, is that, I think,

I think I'm, I'm, I'm, and so, and that was in a place

in Yucatant, it was here by Guadalajara if I don't know, I'm I don't know, I'm going to talk about this, Issa. I know, I don't want to tell, or not going to do that

another person, I know, a person, of a way, well, let's say so, because I'm going to people, to a municipal here of the

city of the and when we get to a little kind of kind of people

magical, we always we're where is the food more we're we're

we're we're we're we're so we're there there's there's

there because it's it's it's it's it's much the places

frioes mountainos with vistas and all this so They said,

Look, but there's a detail. This, his vehicle will have to have to

have to go and they're to get if they're going to go. Well, well,

there are there's there. The real the is impressive. So, we've

those of the team, we've left a can't and we started.

Arriva was like a funda a little more, it's can say

of a family. It was a typical but family. So, in that moment, we've got us

pliarrayers, like these, and, well, they're the number extra normal, podcast. And we came out, good days.

We had a coffeecito of oya. O'S. It would be a realty and the frio and all.

And, this, we were having, like, the mom of some of some people that were and was

like her mom of the woman in the kitchen. We're, the truth, when when we get us to these

places, we know the, I don't see if say it's the custom to ask, and for

here there's some type of phenomenon or here there's things, spantan, all serrots

because they've been to the mind bruchas or all this type of

things. So, so first us were the plieras and you are you

are you are they are they're they're things paranormal and so I go

we go we have a channel in YouTube and so. And, yeah, because

they asked them, and I said, and for here, there's things, and I've been, and I've got to look at her, well, to see her mom, that's when I was going to hear her mom, that's like, like, saying, and I was, like, said, or I said, or I said, I'll, I said, I'll say, oh, I mean, yeah, count, no? And, uh, but this he, but this is, he passed to the

senior, or, to, the abelita. She doesn't know, what happens is that my mom, well, so, he's dedicated to topic of magic. In serious, I do. I say, no, she's, no, it's, yeah, here, the people of, fiatte, what they're doing, come in the people,

for that she'll cure. Because, here in this place, the people, in this place, the people attack much with brusheria. So, she, she, ah, wow. So, I'm interested much to talk to the lady. I go, disculpe,

is that we can tell something but the she was like I'm like I'm

like I'm you know I'm gonna tell us a little we're gonna we're gonna we're

so we're so we're so much convincing the the she was a she was a

sheena a young she wrote a year years in her in her in his

she was she had limped in this moment with she those

I was I was the circles of fire and the circles of salt

for the protection. In an occasion passed a detail with a family

of the same people. They started to know that one of many

many people had to have to have ten kids. One of the children,

approximately between five and seven years, me he said that the

little he started to agred to his brothers. It was

normal that they were they the form in how this little agredia

to his little bit was with the finality to get them to get us to the other

life. So, not it was like a kind of it's normal to have a lot of

your man. A tontah. Yes, exactly. But to bevented a trancas

with a piece in the in the no can agararar an object pussocartant so the

so the papas saw in the little a change a change,

but very drastic of attitudes and know they're why. As being kids of people,

people, most were in the patio and they were all the time and they were back. But this

little bit to show to show things that's that they started with his

brothers. What he was to give to them, primarily to give a ball

of trancas because what they did they was that they were to get to give to

his own to his Papa. But, it was like, I mean, he was, he was,

he was, but he was very little. So, they said, why do you, they said, why do you?

Decid get it with the sacerdote in the parochia, and in that place,

what they do you, do you say, let's say, bring them a day, bring them to do a

rosario, but the new, every time that they were, they were, like, to the

church, was signos of not to not care and start to get to get to the mother.

It was a mother. It was a little bit of the woman what we told is that had had

arrawns in the car, in the arms, his brothers, something that this

little, so is that all being a family very numerous many, many people

all were all were in a one single but nobody of them wanted to

do you Because you, as to count, are one of the morning, all dormied, to good as first, that brother-it-so, and he sat down, grittable with

the eyes with the eyes to be a little or a little, he'd bea-naw, and they'd and they'd, but it was a

thing very sinister. Resulta that he was they've been the dominole to the church, but, for so it

was a form impossible because he he agredia to his mom and his but the So, no, so, no,

so, no, passed of that the father gets, has like, water, and has like an object where he vented, he was too

more abetting, and it was all what they did for him. This is the woman, do you know, a man, a

salute, me said, and he said, he could say his name. Okay. And, Don't say,

and they're to bring to me, but they're not came to come to me. This little when it,

when it when he says, I was I'm trying to cure a woman with yerbass

the little me look but me to make to make

to make to look like with a look and so and you what?

But something that I'm that is that is that the

mind of that the man of the three five and seven

years very very innocent a a that you that was

that was a so, it was between burlona, and sarcastic

and retodora but maintained a semblant of the she she said in that

then she was in the business was going to let me let him let him to put him

to a circle of that was what he was she was she was a very young

for that was the question about the limpia of fire. It's that

the fire is a really to know what what's going to be because

not you know I'm I'm imagine no. He's said that

the family to his mom and his father let in a circle of

a she also not for her and they're like

the part of the house where is a patio to the little

they're they're they and he's a circle of fire

in when they they're I know that this sound asombroso incredible

because so is this this is this. They started to make a marauds of fire. Mm-hmm.

If they are seen like remolinos. Exactly. Mm-hmm. That's to what I have heard

of the relattas in stories. Remolinos, llamas grandes, but that a flama

of a form of a rostro? A rostro that not is for idolia, it's

a rostro and that's and that's a flama for some two seconds like, dibugating a

rostro, that's that I never had seen. That's a rossor that's manifesto

behind the little. The flam was to joiner and he's and it was a

person. She was a man, it was a man that had the same mirada

than the little, the same intention in the mirada of the And the and the

little and the had to have to have to be more people to calm to a

nine of six years. What she me said is that no could do you did not.

It was a fracaso what I attempted in that moment in those years.

I I don't I don't if in some moment if you had

had been a type of attack that that she began

to see her in his dreams. And it was the hour of to sleep?

Paralysis of the suing? A rawnones? Or, you know, has to the same that the

same thing, he was a mom, he passed to be a little a rawn. They were like if

were in a cat. But in his own always visualized. But in his own

not he was in form of a foe. If he saw, the the rostro of a

man. The role, the the fire manifesto what exactly.

It's just there's a there's a thing, no? So, if you can clean with a fire, if you you know, what

is what you're doing, and if the fire, really, but much, it depends of how apply that

kind of, the use of the use of the elementals, but the fire is, as being a potentiator,

what you do you want, is that the fire rebele what there. So, a little

if the intuition not he failed to say, we need to we need to we need, but

because we wasn't knowing to where you to get to get to

then you know? Exactly. So, because it's supposed to this

clean of the fire was going to but just no more

but just because they needed other things for to

do do there things that no I don't have

in the moment but the the majority of the

fire are so so so the situation and

then then in the other limpia with the herbs and the treatments

that are necessary with other things. Baions of Rosa. Ayes of Ros is one of the most

utiles. There are different types of yerb for different things. What is? A very

is that the banio of the rosa I've seen, that they'll repeat in a case

of people that have a type of possession. Van two people that have been done

that was done, the fact one was the person was the one of that was

the And what he did that Baio of Roses the only was that the person when they were going

and he he took the personality the other and he and he's to agreder to his

family. A person a woman that did this standing in the bathes

being in the baynando she and he he began to or car to her mom

that was the person that was that was that was that I don't because

you know two times that I'm two It's that the Bayne of Roses is very subtle no

it's just the roses are related with the love, with the turnura with

the peace with tranquillity the lavanda also seems to

to relax to tryer pass just just they need in

yearbas for so many in salmes so they're with romero

with albaca with Ruda, there other, in other places, they're in artemisa, there are different herbs for different uses.

And also, and also, it depends of the culture that it, that depends of every culture, the type of the herb also that

they're going to use for different types of things. There are much people who doesn't, because the oneo

is symbol that is a symbol that's related to with Jesus. Okay. So, the,

so, the palms, they're, they're beingulated with the Domingo of Ramos, no,

and all, so, so much people do cleanies with palms, with ramos, depending on the

place, of what they can't accessible in the moment. There, for example, the majority

of the places in that I have done, in those that I have to get to

a spirit, Chachararer, that no pertain's there, that you don't know, because not all they

can't say, I, so, I, so, I, I never ostented to say to say,

no, I can't say, I can't If the entity is there's a spirit of the territory and

you're going to you're going to to live in peace with this no? It's a good a same

convivency with the spirit but if there's a thing that are doing so there's to be

to look the way to make them or for the menorer reprendelos well because of the

things that they serve that serve that serve to leave mal those things are for example

herbs that pester the those Firm, the ajo, for example, the

for example, the ago is used much to protect the , the, the, put it

to put it to be down to the bad spirits, no? Okay. There's,

there are in the mountain that upestan, in Yucat we have one that when you know,

it willes and very, very, very feo, but that that yearba is the that is the

malos is an tree. So, in those that they have an olores is the chili.

The chile. I use much velators of Chile, um, with Chile of the other

time that separated three letchusas in my house. Three lechusas in your house?

Yes, and they were very very, and I said, I need to leave the malaguerio.

And, so, so, it passed something that the day for my year

that my mom, my mother, my mother, us were to get a

me and my and my husband to the house of the place when

they were when they're going to get to carterter and chocked unfortunately not passed

to major was a very but so in us in in Yucat

and I see that in other parts of the surest to the lechusas

they they're they're they they're three lechusas that they were

in my house to gritty. Uff. Three bigitas. They were

three bigitas in the car. That's about to chocker. Okay.

Yeah it takes a sense what's what you. And I said, if I

had sawmated and it could have been more, that's what I

did me myself too? No, manches. So, then I

know, I'm almost I'm still recuperating in the other still still

recuperated of the influence that me did. And, um, and, and, um, I'm going to sobando with Chile, but I said, no, but I'm going to

leave the malaguerre, no. No. So, then it's... So, I think it's... So, I'm... ...saccar to a spirit who is doing a-a-one, a baio-rosas, no?

It's something very subtle, no? It's a lot of subtle. I mean, you know, you know, what you see, is that when you don't use the the instrument correct, you can't endpeor-as-emper-as-emper-a- Imagine

that her own his own that's about, I'm sure,

so, so, so, so it's important like to like to know

more, and so what I do you most I'm to foment is what

you have a hand, what you have in your culture, what

you know, so, if in, in the traditions, when you pass a

mal sust, frotartartes with a water, with macko, with

something, do, let's do, do, do, uh, you know

you have to go to look the herbs the herbs africanas to other other

and so but the the council of the abuela is like the most important

but if it's also for that reason I don't I'm I'm to dedicate

to to quit to things because you cargast you that's you

that's what you're what you're saying to the senior also they started

to do things after because because, you know, I'm

here I'm here, I'm I'm have much entry you know

so I'm know one of the first things one one

that one into the introduction to the magic is to protect

to is the most basic the first what first you have to

learn to learn to to learn the abogados when they're

to the school, is to demand to a demand a demand a demand a

demand a question so and the so the same the same the

and the so and much many it's that the ego and

says oh if I mean I'm I'm past no

I'm I'm the the ego of the ego of the is very

because the ego spiritual is one of the most canigos because

you say can with this and then you get in the trancasos and result that no

and it's not that you don't get to never, is that you have to learn to know your your limits

to say, you know, you know, and so when monetizas too when monetize with this then,

just also for having the money, for not to get the cliente, you know, you know,

you know, de more, then so, and then, and so, and so you don't just you're doing

to do that other person. So, so it's very important, too, like, to find and to know the limits. I when I see that are things very denses and that I think, no is that probably, I go to be able to but at cost of what?

If it's, yeah, a cost of what? So, this, I think, if I can't, and if I can't and if I can't work, and if I'm going to affecter, and I'm going to affect it and, bah.

And if, the truth is that no, because I mean I have the right to say that no. Well, I those canals, I canals, I canals, I can't,

that I'm not that I'm not that I'm going to that maybe they're going to be able to but also about the necessity

of the person, no? So I'm, I don't you know, I don't to help, but I can't recommend with

this person. No? And canalize with a other. So that's the, also is the,

like, also, also is the, like, to be a practice honest, because at final,

much people think that the brughery is a practice that one has for the

other people and that's what we're that's a lot of the right. Actually, the way

of the world is a way independent, it's a kind of spiritual that one

that one for the creation right. So, so if this is to be

to costar no, your tranquillity if you not you going to feel

peace with what you are going to be mermando your quality of

life. So, for what you are you think the spirituality what we need to be

there. It's a certain tranquility. Evidentiment also not not is romantic all.

There's the way that's what you do you do you see the the

work of sombras in in times of paganism of druggeria of magic

is very important to know your sombra to know your insecurities

to know your ego no there can be a practice

honest of magia if no there's auto-connociment exactly right that we're

talking the thing is of practice oscures there are many many there are much practices

very sinister you know you know you know this this rompe the line of the moral

of the ethical that you have talked I don't in the busca of the

talk you topas with what you have got to talk I mean, I've

got to topar with various things, no? I don't go to satanized to any

practice, no religion. I think all the religions have their light so far

absolutely and all and all and, so, because put you that those

Catholics, no, do they're they're living animals, they're living to people, this,

they're living, this, but, well, actually, actually, not it actually,

it's very that they do you. And let's go on the years, to the cler, so. What more,

vivas, no, but well, that's another story. They're very creative. Yes,

so, no. Very, creative. Yes, no. So, very,

very, um, so, very, um, to, uh, to,

uh, to, uh, to, uh, but right they're not they're not

they're not they're, they're, they're, incitance to discursos of audio, incitan to

the violence, that's also also is to make a social very, very grave, no?

So, when you are all the time, saying it's like, it's, not there's,

it's, you're doing a lot of, the grade that you can get to get to self-desvivir.

That's, that's a superment criminal and obscure, no? So, but in quite,

for me, all type of practice that has to have to manipulate the

librileadry of any person to infirmar physically or mentally

desvive to the person or to live a animal without

a noble adequate because then then then then it's

that those who live animals and let's we

come we're that also that's it's to live animals not

we can't be hypocrites no we're no no, not, not,

nor, not, no, no, no, but if it's for a

fin is soomoment egoist only because I want to have this, and I don't

I want to the other has, that I think that for me is like a practice

very a very no. So, for me, like, to live animals

in things ritualistic not is something that for me It's something that I

am atreve to practice. Sure. But, but, I don't I can't judge to the people

that, for example, that's having a very grave, no, and that were to medical,

yeah, were to look, to look different remedies and what they is...

Recurrier to... that they pass, those pass around a a guyo, and that

devivant to get the thing, I can't do I'm explice. If I was if I was

probably it would be probably it would be so I'm there's not there's there's

there grises and there grisies and those so in in a practice I'm topado with

with various people that have done different types of practices Okay we can't

talk about one Isa because I know that that type of practices Ihole

we're we're going to talk we're we're to say the ritual complete

so that any I don't because no they're going to because

we're going the context of the practice more, not it's to be a bit

a coppa that no, that's never to happen. Because nothing

what we is for that you do you do you do you no, I don't

I don't I don't to do to do but for example is that I have

two two scenarios to be a one one not is like

kind that was like a but for example this

I was in the prepa when I studied in the prepa was in the mere center of the city of Merida and so to go to get to get my

carmion to go to go to get to have to come to various quadras were in the negotiations

and there was a business like of darks no there were calaveras camis

things to my my Boppa he used much the calaveras so my my

my friend and I went because I was working there an friend,

a man, that's a friend of the friend with that I was to

talk about. So I was I was seeing in the vitrina the bit of the things of the

caseloverer, a pippa and all that my papa fumma a pippa and

I was fascinated seeing seeing how I'm going to see how I'm going to

and he he's and the escalera that is a gallery I said, I'd say,

it's a context of a tinder darks, okay? That's when I started to go to get to

the escalator I'm going to get a peserdom and some nauseas tremendous, okay? And since

that began some of some of virgins and santos and the context in that then

I was a Catholic okay I was to the church okay? I was

chorista, okay? And, And I I'm I'm going to see

some with colmillos Oh, the bestia I did pictures of Christos

with the and things so I go up and until we're to get

to a quarter in where the room so there

there these pictures with this context that I

did of god of santo mutilados virghenes with cars demoniacas

and I was like super sacada like what is this and so so you know in the

the pastes there were these pictures but in the in the

walls in the floor they were like those those bags

that used to put so to canalize many various

and the mangueras of those things, no, colling in the interior, no, of the

court, and it was a lot, the piece, the piece, it was manched like, like,

like, they'd have been limpeated, but mal-limpeated, you know, but the other

other side was a one of those like, like, and that's kind of in the

piece, no? And there then then a crucififio almost of

a time real with the with the little with the what's the what's

what is what is what is this is this and I'm and I'm like I'm going I'm going to

I'm I'm going to start and I'm I remember that time I'm back to my

house and I regress so with I'm so I'm to feel a

a can't a can't a can't and I costed to to sleep and

I remember that I'm I'm I'm like I know of the yeah,

but like if I'm like if I'm like I'm oh boy I don't be in that

then I didn't so I but a but a but a cance horrible

and yeah me lave the car I was I'm like I'm like I'm

and all and all to do do that to do my time and

I I was back and in the night I I'm with a

ritual satanical no? I don't see because I kept with

the suggestion but at the days after or the second in the

period in a periodical in Yucat that's called Presidio

I think I'm more I think he's more they commented

commented that in Merida, in some part of Merida, I don't remember, where they,

they're in a place in where they're rituals satanical. And that they found

things there maybe rare wos of and so. So I kept like like,

it's like the same the same would be, I don't think it was the same,

it's like it's like a lot in a expression of something of something, but

that me transmitted No, me transmitted much violence, and much, no, I see, it's just, I'm very

very strong, no. I mean, I'm a context of you chica, that I perceived things

and I felt an energy so moment but I'm still a chica catholic. It's that the sands

also the people who are the people who get to get to get them to talk about of that,

there's, there are some some more pasto of the Lanzas and so those who are the

timeio real, very, they're a Jesus so, so, so,

so, So, so, all... It's very very Yeah, it's it. It's a

impact much much. Now, the other panorama is a much

time after I was in my 20s and all like my 22. I was then I was

a budist I had changed, I had changed to religion, me had converted to

but the woman that was she was also the person who was a part of the

budism, he was much before that he started to practice that she was to be

And then he took to the buddism and it was going to combine but she would be able

and it and he was because he had money. Sure. Well, I,

of actually I learned what of the fire the water, the salis, the various herbs and

all of that. And one of those, was some people that I imagine was to that I'm

a woman Marry because I, the bellator the bellator of the two

the two the man and the woman together Uh-huh, if you have

I've seen, the rojas and and two and two animals.

Two animals. Two palomas, a black and and I remember that that's so,

no me he didn't be the general the ritual, he said, this,

no, he's no, and then, and then then then then he said, he's

he's, he was the and I, and I kept so, they're

just, they're Okay. But the palomas were amarras of the patitas and they were

like. And I said that they were a bodega that was there and then I know

I know I know I don't know that's liberated but I'm sacrificed but also

I don't I think that I'm what I'm what I think he was he let's in sarras

and arrasas and marradas because it's supposed that So, so, it should be the Amarre. Wow.

And I was, that was when I said, oh, what is this? Even though, I mean, I kept practicing Buddhism, no? Because I said,

well, that's the Brughery, that's not Buddhism, no? But she was the that she was

the world, you know, so that's one of the things that one of the one of the

one of the two, well, that I'm got to, you know, that's the thing,

is a job of a Marry. I think I, I go, I'm just, and for what I've seen, for me, I think, is in the top three of the jobs most solicitats. Yes, of me, various cases, well, the majority of

the times, many of the people me say, do you, no. Any me busks for that. No, no. I, no. I, no, I don't, I don't like that. I think that, the, the world of the Palomas,

to me me made, say, this not is chido. Imagineate. So, I'd like that we'd like to say the context of what I'd have to tell you to go ahead. Uh-huh. To tell you to the family that's abnormal.

There's a person that I know I know. That's, who I've lived many, many, many, many years, more than, I think, 15, 16 years, with a woman. Uh, had been, they're, um, are womencitas, and, uh, but this,

this, this person, this baron, well, is, or, man, no, I was, I'm going to think that yeah, no, it was a very ojoleggre. And for,

and for the condition of your work that had to be in various points of the republic, was, he had his, his,

um, so, so he didn't know, imagineate, for more of 15 years, no,

knew, that his spouse was a druggeria. I want to think that was for the time of

his job, because he said, is that there were moments where, well,

I'd to, to leave a, And the more get to my house one a month.

I said, what you can't you can't get to that. I mean, I'm

a person that was a part of the family. The case is they discover a little bit and they

and he, well, in one point me confess the net, me sent with rienda and I

started to just, like, like, like, without, like, culpability,

to, and to go to my, we're going to put it so. The problem

is that there there's a moment where he could do you, not could

do it, but not it's because not because that he physically

not, physically, physically, actually, actually it didn't, not, no,

not functioned for nothing. And if if Dolea. Mm-hmm. To go to the medical.

All right. All right. But no you can. No, you know you can't. So, this

person me said, as I said, I said, I'm said, I said, I'm with a woman

that I recommend. Mm-hmm. And she me and he and he he's a

box with a water. I saw that. And, and so He's, the Miamro

of a man, the member masculine. The member masculine of a man,

but I'll see that photo, there's something that is the parodola, that is

to find a figure that no exist, but for your thinking, the thing, well, you

know, the thought, you know, that's, exactly, to this tapita, we'll

make a zoom extra, we, we're we, we're going to see, cars and eyes and

and so, that photo is the first that I see, here's the photo, pung, I said, no manches, bro.

And if, cabron, it's a detailed. Sure. Detallied. So, all, the people are to read. Well,

but well, but, no, there's a doubt of that, I mean, there's a question, so,

that's the woman, me said, that my woman me is still talking. And then when he

visit his old house, he does that your mother, is a thing of luxury. And for

many years and he never knew it. So, you know, you know, you see, a context of that that. I mean, I know, I know.

No, no, not, no, I'm like, my husband being this, eh?

No, that's true. Salus to the husband. You know, my, this, no,

no, um, not it's for that you do, so, no, no, that's,

no, that's, no, that's the ritual complete. Ah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's not, no, it's not, so, it's, so,

there's, so, so, that in those places in where they're doing jobs, or where they're doing things for jobs, velas, and all, so, there's, well, so, a velourer, no? No? Masculino,

this, um, this, uh, so, that, uh, so, that's, uh, that's, uh, that's, uh, that's a, He does work in different ways, in some of the vellator, well, no, the member as well, it's a chile, some yearba, or

something that does, that no functioned, or that when it does, it'll dole or he arra. So, because, well, this sense of possession of, I mean, the, in the mentality is that, You, but the act, the object with with the object with with the

object with you're going to control, because I'm so, you know, so, it's, it can't be with the body of the woman or of

the person. It's like a sudor? It can be sudor, it can be salivar or other things.

Or the semilita. The semilla sacrava, masculine. So, um, so,

um, and in a whole, also with herbs and things, or chiles, or et cetera,

et cetera, uh, for that, uh, for that no, it's, so,

so, for that he not, so, so, and so, and for that when it,

even, even, even, even, at the, the, of the, the,

of the well, she, she, she, Okay, that's one I didn't know see what

in the podcast they're going to it's not the ritual complete, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no is the ritual complete, there are more things that super important but, um,

but not it's something I mean, no, no, I'm doing like, to say, I'm going to say,

oh, I'm going to try, In the podcast of Sergalanzus, which is a podcast where Issa, also we'll accompany you more ahead. Mentioned a case that

me took to be, and I go, because I know I the I'm not so many details because if there's a very sergana and you're going to

know, to know to tell her, there's a woman, we're going to put that there there's a that my mom and I

know we know this, for an, for something that's going to do that If you want to be the detail, they're going to seragher in the

usts. There's the detail with context rapid. No, I'm going to give to be here. When we're

talking with her, for some tracts that they were to do, this this is a house, with her

husband, he was going to talk to good to primeras. It was a woman, like, a lot of

years, that I'm to be able to first, ah, this, of the the,

of the , I'd say, and I'd go over to his husband, so, like, and his

spouse, like, and so, I'm, and so, well, every kind of all of his

accrued, and I'm so, and my mom he said, oh, oh, no, no,

no, doesn't know, no, doesn't know, Wich, no, and my mom and said,

well, and he's, and he's, well, and he, he, no, he no, he,

he's not, he's, he said, too, I'm, Just because me you're

asking. This he's he put the quarno and a chinko of a

minute me did and I did and I went and and then I was with a person

to to manz and to amarar and he said me he said,

me said that person the first the first the was the semigita

sacred and He told to my mother, how he gave that? Because, he goes, yes, the fact, it was easy.

It's not difficult, I don't know. I mean, I mean, when I was it got it in the book,

the scoop, and I and thence he was and so that man had received a

herency tremendous, and all the herencia and she was selling all, the property

to, the family, the, the, the, the, family, the family,

the Lord, odian that that she says, I'm it's

me. I'm it's me. So I'm so I'm my mom has been so

my mom's so Jesus Christ so for that right that you mentioned

something of what that's something I think I think he does a

intention to a a a job so so is that

the the fact to a person to his to possess your

body or parts of your body is a moment violent, no? I mean

me seems very violent, very very and I'm so it's that's

that I mean the budism to me opened other perspectives into the

spirituality not. You can't you know? Well, so

like in the Christianism exist in various schools Christianas like the Catholicism

the Adventists et cetera in the Buddhism and different ramas

too because of The India was sparseing to different parts of Africa, of Asia,

et cetera, et cetera, so the type of Buddhism that I practiced had been in a school

Japanese. Okay. That had had to be with the intonation of a mantra.

Okay. It's, is a type of Buddhism that the meditation is for intonation.

Okay. No, I see have seen to the monks Tibetans that

are repeating their liturgias in Sanskrit there there's there's

there are there are some like the oh money Padmeh home oh money

Padmehom well we're in the Buddhism Japanese I'm I'm

we're to intonamos namio horenge oh namio horeenke so

and so apart also part of the rituales that they're also it's

very in esoteric because incinso, water, water, and all of you. Well, there was to repeat

a liturgy in Japanese, and we we used, I'ma, you know, Y, Jami, Yon, Jai,

Yon, Jinn, me, I'm, I'm sorry, yeah, well, I'm sorry, yeah,

no? I'm so me's the credo. Aha. And it's long- long-ish

so, I don't know if I'd be talking about because I can erring many but,

but I'll say, no, so, There's, there are different sects of this type of Buddhism in different parts of the world. So, they're sparseing for different parts. The temple most circano,

here to Mexico, is the Panama. We're, we pertincese to, well, the, the, uh, and the, the, uh, and the, the sacerdotty of there, viajava, uh, for, to give us, no? And for, as to the rituals, well, that we had to live,

no, for yeah, to enter, as a, to a one practice. So what has to be with this type

of practice is that all your style of your life had to have to turn to

your to do your and to do this process of of time in meditation.

In some moment I with I commented of

one that I'm that and that's a eye

and that and that was when more more and

that was when I'm but but I get to budism

because because Previally, in I've actually, I was to study a extraordinary in

mathematics because the numbers not are the mine. Okay. And I went to a cafeteria that

in the center to study. And I'm tope with this friend, the,

the other that's, okay, and I know what and so we put us to talk to

and he he was to comment that he started to practice bodism. And I

did the And I had heard about the Buddhism about the Buddhism of the

Buddhism of Siddhartha Gautama the Buddhism Tibetan as well but he was talking

to this other rama and that I said to say me things like very interesting

is that they're very my master Buddhist this and then my

my master me said and I oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, oh, oh, well pass the time a one

a So, there me near, close of Monjas, for those who are in Merida,

uh, there's, there was a house there and a, uh, and I'm, uh,

and refresco, pon't two $12 pesos in that then that's like wow, no, no,

one, no, one, a ganganga, no? And my my friend me said, oh,

we're going, and we're we're going, and we're we're saying, chichalakiando and all. And there

was a sir, with his husband, and so they were to talk to us, and between the talk, it's, we're going to, no, if, we're Buddhists. I, I said, I'm a little, I'm talking, I'm talking about, that, I know, that's what,

of Buddhism, and I said, and he said, he's called Joseph. Ah, yeah, he's, he came here, me and I said, and I'm going to say. What, or so, you're a master? Well, I think so, I'm, So, if it's, like,

yeah, then then he was to talk to us to us, and it was that you know the mantra,

and us he said, take it, practice it in your house, uh, to that

direction to the position, that no, so, five minutes, repitelow with this

cardencia, five minutes, and then he said, and so what I did what I did with my

friend. And we started to go, and we And, this, and we'd more than the cafeteria, quittano us

from the prepa, we'd, we'd we'd, we'd get us there, to talk, to coffee, and, um, and I,

I'd get to be there, hours, I mean, I'd like to get me there hours. And yeah, a little,

before, uh, he, the process, yeah, to teach us, but I, but I, you,

no quits, because I, in that then I was, I was in the coro, I'd, I was,

then I was to tonar the mantra, because then they started to invite and then it was

that they were that's a pergamino with a letter in Chinese

archaical and so then you know I did that practice to the next

and then after to get of the school and then Saturday on

my to go to the church so so then so

so I started that when the Lunes, when you said to get me mariaa, but maria of that

me desmayed, me discompensable. And at the second or third time, what I said, and I said, and I said, I said, well,

is that, I'm, then, so, I'm, so, I'm, so, my papas, know, no, know, that I'm,

that's, you, know, I'm sorry, I was still, to my family, my family, I knew, I know knew that, I'm, I said, and,

and, um, and, um, and, this, and, you say, if you did count that you're

you're you're in a good and then you're going and then you're going when you

when you're you're all discompensate energetically because you're doing two chockes

of energies different. So, and me they're to get a and I in that

moment I didn't get a list and me I'm I'm I'm

from but between the things that I'm because I'm

there there were things like not they're quadrar in the in the

comportment of these men. And because in part, also, I mean, I had, I had

really, and there just in that house, I'm going to things paranormal. Normal.

Yes, yes, yeah, in that case for, I don't see if you want, if you want, to let us

for the second part, because right I'm trying to start to a question, the people that

this podcast know that, here we we're we're the different spirits that can

have been the studio and I'm when we're when we're talking about I said I'm talking about

you know what you're here because has been people who me says this that you

have seen things and we've seen things and we've been to see a video at the day

of the day that we're doing this and I'm They started to be baghones of light and I

just in the studio of Sargalan Sustos that's a my left and standing I

sat down in my computer to the obscuras so moved a little

a lot of but so trytrate like they they're like they they're like you

was just I was I was I was I'm there and I'm to hear

and I don't know nobody me alerted actually for It's just to see the

light here in the studio The extrano is that I know why

these lights here not they're not but here

here is something something I I've to hear

I know what is the studio of Extranormal podcast

I know why so I have been to

Caciel, he was out of the light. There's a bit of the light. But, no, there would have gopies here into, no, there'd be, no, no, no, there's a reason. No, there's no, no,

no, there's nothing. I mean, no, there's no, I'd have to be rooos. So, no, no, I'll, no, I got to get the, the, the phone, I started after, but, so I sent me something, but I said,

something, so, I said, What I said? What on? You know, what do you see? What can be? Look, uh, a,

I said, when, when, when we started to grab, I know, I said, when we

to enter in material, if they want to you, a little, a little, a little,

I know in what moment of the of the part of the not I, but I but I went to be

to see that, because here in this, it was a a somber, but not was a a sombra but it was a time.

Chiquito? Like here. Like, so it was like very rapid. What I did, when I went, I just went,

because as I'm having said, I said, I said, I said, I said, what, yeah, what's that, what's said, and

just I, in this part of here, where is Isa, this. Another isa. Here at a little bit,

I felt like a cargues, they know, like, cargars electromagnetic. And I said,

this is the rastro of an energy, no, of something that's here. But no me,

no, I don't me to be to see it, because I know that sometimes they're

to manifest with sombras or things so, but I, no, no, no,

I, the rastro of the energy that that's the sombra that I don't exactly some of some of the

potal no of an energy masculine but this is a little more

high okay okay that is a okay that is a bit more I'm also

the rastro of other energy not to you can't identify the

gender but not is something that that's here as only in your studio

but is something that is something that has a little the edificio no see if these these

were used and then they were they were but not seeing that only that

here, that here came that comes okay no so I just that

that is that I that I'm that it's that I'm that's that I'm that's what I'm

that's that's that's that I don't let I've got because it's

like I'm like I'm like I'm let's say no it's what you want to say what you're

just like just like I'm with with respect so like you're so you're so

but right I percibi or so what I was what I did was a little was a little that was a

little bit when you were asking it was I percied and I'm here that's where

is where is the alushito that they they're no yeah and so

and so and so and the energy masculine that I did the I said

I don't see if it's something that's something that's something

and it just before that I did you to I was to

and he's man or is man or is a woman and I

don't if is a woman but energy masculine. Okay.

And then then you said the other. Frankie, with carino for the compas. Uh-huh. But,

but that they didn't know, it's not, it's an energy masculine, and they said, uh, it could be

this. Okay. But if I'm, like, like this time. Chiquito.

Like this time. So, not from here to the table, but the piece to

like. Like if were a little? Like, like if were a a

Okay. Not is a little. At least I don't know the I'm with an energy

of a what you consider you or what intuies that I think I think

can be an some elemental okay some elemental that yeah has been

before in it as part of the territory okay okay is that

like like before it was this part of and

so after not many years not demasiados like of the same,

not to know, the of the years, 15 years, uh,

uh, the place that's, the place that you did you know, all that was a

mountain, trees of mango, obviously, and they started to industrialize, to generate,

care, generate new commercials and this and other places, they're to teller aller to

and they started to start to build up and they did you do you in your

studio no there's no no no Yeah. In the street, it's yeah

you know, you know, but much is for just the spirits of the territory. One of the things with which I

try to right much to connect is with that with those spirits of the territory. We have to learn to

live with what we have is something part of the process of the magic and the brujeria is to

convivir with the spirits that there and with all the types of intelligence and with all the types of

of series, both materials and immaterial in those we're in the world we're not, when you

learn to learnes to sensibilize to get to respect to that and not put it in a juice of it's good is bad

it's also all the light of the light and all the same angels have in their light of so.

It's for that when one when one is to learn sensibilized and learn to understand that we have

a respect and that we're not we're not we're the only that we're the planet So, so you

do you do that's other other sense to the practice no? I was

much when I'm talking about the movie, oh, how is it? This movie classic,

classic, the others? Ah, yeah, goodissima. Goodsimus. I'm I'm sorry

because I live in a house similar. No, manches. I said, well, the spirits

have been the spiritos have been the other, the other, the persons people people

But, you know, the two have the right to live there. Yeah, yeah, there are, yeah, so,

those two have their their because they're there, so, is aterrador to try to

try to understand that situation, but, de really, are things incredible.

How do you have passed, Issa? Oh, very well, very, very, very,

very, uh, very, so, out, to be, that's, out of,

the, frankly, and the, and the other of the other smallin, that not not is

that's a little. If it's, no, not is a maligno or not, it's the

alush. No, no, because the alushes are more little. It's an

elemental that I was in this zone. Okay. Okay. To be a part, where's

the lampa, the people that remember the podcast, or if want to go, let's see

one of the first videos when we were in this studio thematic. There was a

quadro. There was a quadro. The quadros, as as well as the cruises, are piqued. So, I know form of that's

no way, they're in form, they're just like, the quadro had a pia right and a pia back.

Here's he's like piqued, or attornilado for us. For the Argentina, the pia is

a tornillo. Yes, or attornilado. So, so, we're We went. We went to some collaborations

in the city of Mexico, we're having obviously here the studio, we're and there

was a disaster but there the disaster, the the quadro, the was, and if

it's not, not it was, it's like, to be, to be, there's, there's,

so, so, and it's, he rumbed so, so it's, he'd run,

the crystalito. Well, we'd It was destroyed. Marco. If you had had been the mark?

Baca. So, all, all, all, and what was. And what was? It was a card I was

for, for a tinder of e-commerce grandisima of Mexico and the world. It was

very antivue or, but no, not it was like to, not pertensia to someone. It was

commercialized for adorn decorative. But what it was? It was like a panace

in black and black and there was a rio and a destrozzled destrozzled so

I'm I'm carrie I said this this no this is normal I said this is normal

if it's so it's a distance not so at the much so at the much it carted

the vidry but that was so I'm destroyed like with with

with fury and and when I was I chingado that that's

so is very rare and more more Like you say, because that's on the

piece, because, or a so, one we've got to a tapette in a cabin. I said,

what, what on? So, what on with that? So, no, it's not, it's like,

and that's before of Frankie? All was after. No. Yes, all was

after. All right. So, so, this, it's that, it's that were saying,

hello, I'm here. Right? No, no, no. Ah, okay. Those are, those are messages. Ah, okay. Some messages.

Something I'd try to that one of two, or I was, or I was trying or simply no he liked. Now, all right,

all the that's, yeah. So, if, if, if you want to continue to,

you know, so, like, who can't who can't say, oh, this,

you can't say that, you can't say, that, so, you can't give us this,

I don't, I mean, if he wants, no? If he's a good and not he wants to be, I mean, I mean,

you know, I'm going to be a sane no, but yeah. It's not that's not that's about

the answer. But, but, who don't romp a thing. That's, that Rompacose. I remember

Pepe told a chiste, Pepe, my brother, because me justroza a iPad.

How is possible? A be, let me to give the context. When we grab

to capitals of stories. I have an iPad and I buy an

iPad for the studio because they're there's different things. Well,

I'm to do to grab with Jaciel and this and

we're we're we're at the like at the one of the

morning. He's okay, I'm going to get cargating the iPad,

let get cargando and we're we're we're we're

the day this, he's by the iPad, like as well as he he had

all the display destroyed. The fact there's a he said, wait, what on?

Digg. Did he, he said, no? If you did it, when I was in the screen,

not was in the piece. Tal qual how I did it. I said, boy, that is a

trankasso that's a guy, I'm that I'm garrone because I don't manches

So, this is Salacarissimo, I said, How do you know, so, way, you've, you've, you know,

I'm trying, I said, I said, I said, no, it's, I mean, and I said,

like, three, four days, we know, we're doing to do that, my man, no,

came to edit here, and when I'm, saying, hey, me, they've been to be

to be to turn to and they and the people started to write because my

response was, Dime that not it was a camera or was something it's a

no no no boy it was it's a simply simply put in

the but so so are things so very very raras

very random is that I feel that is

I okay okay because they they need to

need to so maintain so so so sometimes

you one one does of where you don't

When we're, for example, in my altar, I always have my vellator, water, preem incincento, because I'm offering them to my ancestors, to my guests, to give us, to give us, energy for that energy

also passes through me and get to them, and at the same time, you know, it's a fluo constant of energy, no? It's an interchamble, okay?

So, probably what is saying is that oh yeah I'm I'm trying to the

hand to the changarro and not you're ritualizing let me the hand my hand

o'clock if one once that you enter to this to offer to an a spirit

to a entity or something there there's no way there so I'm

so I say so I'll you know determine to decide if you want to

if you do the way more amable, that regrece where he came,

or that again, the person that he he's he's he's not, he's

not that, oh, no is that, what? What? I've a reflexe here.

You, what you got to? A, a, a, the sombra. I think

that no, well, no, no, I don't know I'm, I think, I'm,

like, like, how he was saying, that's, like, so, I'm going,

so, You take a photo, no. This, so, but you have to decide. But that's, one of the other, one of the first you do you, no,

no, no, a march after. But, they're going to going to things, and until that you,

do you know, okay. Okay. I'm, I know, I know, normally the chapters,

we're, we're, I'm with the people, with, I'm, I'm with fear. Like, if

terminate with fear, because, if ultimately that's been going to be going to be going to be

going to be much more than thank you. The fact very much about your social. For

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