EXTRA ANORMAL - LIVE: Pactos Demoníacos – Revelaciones Ocultas y Advertencias

Episode Date: April 27, 2025

En esta transmisión en vivo de No Es Normal.TV, Paco Arías se une a Josué Velázquez para desentrañar el misterio de los pactos demoníacos. Acompáñanos para:🕯️ Explorar los rituales más escalofriantes usados para invocar y sellar acuerdos con entidades oscuras.🔍 Conocer testimonios reales de personas que afirman haber firmado pactos con el diablo y sufrido sus consecuencias.⚠️ Recibir advertencias y consejos prácticos para protegerte de influencias malignas.No te pierdas esta experiencia donde lo paranormal y lo real se fusionan.🔔 Suscríbete y activa la campanita para recibir la alerta cuando iniciemos!

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all is a in-vivo a bit of a special. The reality is that many people, many people know that

we're going to talk of a thing that's very much. For there, I saw a rata, because there said,

Paco, no, the comments, I'm going to be those, but it's very complicated, but I mean a commenter who

says, avicenos if in this in this in- this in-vib- we're going to use a because in the

anterior, not-vis- and if it's too was a very, but in this in-

this en-vvvvvvvvvv is a It's quite interesting, because we're going to talk of two things principal. First, a time that is going to the world. This, due to, well, to the fallaciment of the

Papa Francisco, and they're that many speculations, there are many theories that are selling to the loose, newament, things impressive, that's that are being, and our second theme is the theme of pactos, a

theme, a time, a time It's a very a thing that is about for a person that has a pacto

very so far. So, family, in this moment, I, I'm you,

I'm to get comodos, they're comodas because there's something

important, that no can't get to go ahead for favor with the

description of the episode. Adelante production. From the beginning of

the time, the man has has been in the world, ricka, conocimient, and some, they've been,

have been to pay the price more alt. No, we about superstitions, we've got of rituals

ancestral, of firms written with some of voices that respond in the obscurity. This night

in, no is normal. We're gottramed in one of the terrors most the

mysterious, the pactos demoniacos. What A person to to give a person to to give his

alma how real are these are these people that are more

than more than your mind and your spirit because there

there one once ever ever never they never

be to never be so as as as

as as you see a thing a important

a theme temido for many people and for this night we accompany a person very special

that has been to Tuxtepe Waxaca to be to be about this theme

that is so that is so this time and the question and of we are with us

Joseue Velasquez Jose how you how you what's with the good and

the interest and the interest to to be to be to be to do for

to profundize a little in these things, well, the now recentes and the

and those those accontecides. Jose, thank you, much thanks for accept the invitation.

Thanks for coming to our Tirs to talk to be very very very

very very very hard. Thank you for accept the invitation. Oye,

for a lot people you are sending various comments that are

saying that are Felicit that you're with us some of us some of them some of us

yeah, it's very very well is that I'm really content the fact Paquito the last

last time that we have been very interesting the form in that about you about you

with much respect with that with that point of a neutral of you know

you don't you say I'm you're the person you're the peromone paranormal paranormal

I think your your content so your to say that if you, that is you, that permits to have an space for for the opinion, no,

in the whole this process or religious, or of cults, or of, um, um, um, um, things ascabroos.

That no, any other than us, it's a lot of course, thank you, we're going to, let's, to give to this in-vibo, and,

and, before to initiate, I know that much people, uh, to know a much people, since much

time, from, well, about the case, no, that's famous,

from that people, much people, yeah it's but for if if no,

for if there's there's one of a first person, I'd like,

please, you're to you're to do you do your social?

Thanks. Pachito, Paco, I'm Josue Velasquez. Me can't find my

Instagram that's called Casa Grimorio. Casa Grimorio is a now, now,

it's a Casa Editorial, Paco. In her, so, edit my books. I've got various titles

published. One of the most recent is called practically Pactos and convenios. In it,

in my page, they can find information of my tradition religious and it's

called botanica of gerb and remedies magic. Because, at the time years, I've

learned to learn the way of formular these remedies for the health,

for recuperate the felicity that's for a lack of money, or a lack of a pair of, in fin. They're remodemones

some curations magic. So there, they can give a a visthazzo, Paco. Okay.

You're thank you, for that all the people that are interested and they want to

know about our invitation, which is a memory in Instagram. And, and about

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I recopilo books yeah antivos that's in Europe or even

here in the Arch General of the Nation are facsimiles of books

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of that time were chisos and they're at the disposition books, medicines, magicas and I

always converso there also with the people about things various so so hopefully they can

subscribe to know perfect I thank you thank you thank you thank you we

have two things important that we're going to start about this night. A thing that I think more

important, very interesting, of much knowledge. You, like a time, has been

getting much knowledge in the other occultism demoniaco. It's a thing a very important.

There are some things that we're to talk this night and some questions that the

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to assist and start with us now now so after after this after this

look what timeso we come him the pap of

the Apalipsis You, we've We've been talking a while about what is the topic of the Papa

Negro, we're going to call it with much respect, but it's about much, much,

much, about what comes after of the fallaciment of the Papa Francisco.

Salen for there some some things like the, uh, uh, the prophecy

of Nostradamus, of San Malakia and so, and they're doing many things what you can say of this?

Well, the truth is that is an event that, although not surprised to the faith

catholic, well, is it has been a impact political. Really, it's

really that the Papa felles from February. From there is the hypothesis

that supposedly felles before. It's that is disabellated to

think when, imagine in these elites politics that move

millions of people. So, the Papa The man in the cintura could

convocation to the war, the Catholic for example. Remember you? The war of the

Christeros in Mexico cobrough three times more more than the revolution that it

was a year. And they're in three were more people. The religion is an

opio like Max. Well, the chiste and the commentary is a

reference that he's not doubtable Paco that the people don't

in a good moment political or To be that the Iglesia is to

get in a head for five, 15 days that not the sum

pontific the obispo of Rome can be be catastrophic so

what what is happening in the with Russia with the church

orthodox which is the contrary the Catholic there in Europe

so so so so he was he father

fall now the prophees and the pap Francisco

not should be considered, Paquiton, as as the the successor of Benedict 16. Because,

according to the prophecies of San Malakias, after of Benedict, is that had been, the Papa

Negro. But, record we that, according to the tradition Roman, well,

only is a new Papa, to the father, and Benedicto 16, or Ratzinger,

the Papa Aleman, then never muri or not in the papado yeah

but posterior it's just that then then I don't have to be contemplated in the

prophecies Malakias this Papa Francisco Okay for so this

Papa of the number to the number 112 if would be to be

the pap Negro but not necessarily for his race is that

is what is what they're even people because for the thing

of the color of or for what comes in the

theme spiritual this obscurity that represents the malddad

well it's consider that it's a tony that

is the first papa that when when he declared

by the prefect of the congregation abemus papa um

uh will be should be the doctrine philosophic

that he represents that can be Jesuit and from there we can be derivating what is

although it's even that could be America another other

the Papa another of the other of the things Paco that are surging

well is the necessity to agrup and to recobrar much

of the feligresia that has has been the church catholic

and for the time it would be a dis, it's dismayed to think in the

possibility of a pap Mexican. Imagine no. That, that's

that people are the people, the pap 120, saying that there's that there's

more of two hundred and this debited because not it's not is being or

not it's not not he's thinking from the country from from the

people, that's San Malakias. I'm understood. San Malakiaz, more or in the century 12, visit the Vatican, or visit to this place, where he

first, first, he does know that there's much corruption in the Vatican, that there are many, very turbias, that not, that not are, or that not, they're to go to the plans ecclesiastic

directly of God, but that there, much corruption, and in that moment, it's said that and San Malakias, in the century of 12, it's a series of scripted, not? Some phrases,

for there, crypticies, type poems, poecisies, that are describing certain, I know, questions of the

papas that are getting to the 112, that's being being being being the that's called Pedro,

the Roman, where he comes, basically things, aspects, of each the pap,

origin, et cetera, etc, et cetera, et cetera. But what that's much the attention after this is that's

that's because obviously not I'm to say this are the things. It's the thing that

after this papa, the last the last time where then there's the apocalypse and where

it's the destruction, it's a series of situations oscura and perhaps the arrebatam

of the church, a chaos, the apocalypse practically. So, it's consider that the, uh, uh,

no it's not like the destruction of the humanity, but Malakia's, it's referred to the end of the church a culture as tall and how we

knowce. And this can be to bevers, Paco, to, uh, a, a,

a, a, what means that will a, a, a, a, a,

a, a, a, a, a, a collapse, internal, and

the forces political, Recordemos that the papas, one of the forms of things in which renunciable, was for the presions, because he was in contact of the doctrine of the liberation. So, that the papas are caces, that, pardon, that the sacerdotes can't contain the matrimonial, can procrear family.

That I don't know that. Well, there are various cults that permit in the matrimon, the Catholic, pardon, the evangelists, Christian, Pentecostals, many. because, because, also is part of

the principle of a family to be a people, the people, the people,

the people, the, the, the people that you want to you're

what you are, many things. What what you is that if you do you

do a lot of castidad as they, then it has been to do this

Papa Francisco that, well, I don't if in peace he,

he's was trying to say that the celibato were something because it's dogma of faith

but it's a regla that's established. Well, thenedicto luchable against these groups that

said, well, if you have to liberate the church to this, of this atta-blower,

blah, blah, we're not just that the corruption, look, the bank, another of

the factors of his renuncia were the problems of the lavado of the

bank of the bank of The Bank of the Vatican is dwean, actionist, majoritarian of canals like Playboy, for example. It's duke of marcas like Prieto Beretta.

Smith in Wesson in States. Okay. So, those apostolets that invest in the money, then, they're to, they're going to be, the money, no? The people,

will be to have money like limbollah, so 20 million of dollars, enter to the system financial and it's also again obviously

doing so in fact there's there's a great corruption in the question in the pap

aleman Ratzinger was he luched but no he could counter a mafia

for that he said Satanas live in the Vatican you do you think that

really well yes because there there's acedote that

practican the luciferism which is a corrient parallel to the

Cavaliers of Medici to to the proper Christianism that in his moment the mom

of Constantino exercia okay if we record we part of the reliquies catholic

is one in churches catholic traditional and others are in churches

catholic orthodox russas the coroner of spinas the proper

Cruz that rescata Santa Elena, no, this all those

vestiges that are the the lance of the line of there. There are

a series of situations there. Sure, are things of power very

interesting. So, I consider that this, that this, well, you can you know,

you know, that's an catastrophe world, and what will be said

that the murder of more of the million of the world and

annunce surely the sisma of the church Catholic as well it's

certainly now a sacerote after to have two years 15 years

of preparation they're going to reduce to two is going to

reduce this a grand a grand time the power

look not not is scabell think in that

there exist that there the curia romana in

Mexico because the church, the basilica of Guadalupe is the second sanctuary

after the in the in the money in the money in the money so that's

certainly he'll get a al-asobispo primado to make for a papado

that not is the first that's not the first but apparently as you can listenes

and I have a question that comes very accord to what we're talking, that has to be with the Papa

of the Apocalypse, no, or the ultimate Papa, as also you as a person satanista that has, or for many years, you me atrego to say, perfectionst

to what is it like, invocations demoniacas, because you have a book written where you describe it, how is the invocations to the demonio

or, Alpingo, as you also you you referes, what you think or

what you think you think of the antichrist? Well, record we in the

oration precisely that's in the Vatican, in the church, in the

Basilica of San Pedro at Uttby at Orby that this Argentino yeah

no he can't to do a lucifer Okay that's even has transmitted

many and I know because the people don't say hey, for how they're can't

to a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a,

a, a, uh, and the, the, well, is that's referring to the

light, a light a light of a lot of knowledge, for a moment, I thought that he was to

call, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, yeah, I'm going to be able to be able to

but I'm not. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, but, but, uh, so,

uh, so, then, the Antichrist as so, well, one,

according to the proper scriptures, will be in the ultimate of the times, many who do you have

to pass as redentory and as many people, and even so I know a various maesos

that have done, have done and consider that the son, he's who manned

and create this this ultimate war that will be a final we're saying that the

ultimate, one of the anti-crist will be It's like of Orient. There's a name that I don't remember.

Well, simply they say Hussein, but it's like to say Peres in Mexico. It's very common. It's very common

there, the Hussein. But there the people, what we know is that, for example, in the Middle

Oriente, all those people, those leaders, not are leaders, political, but are

leaders, religiousos. For that that people don't have any proper in molars. If the leader

And he said, you're going to get to 10 kilos of C4 in the body and you're going to go to the Embachad American. It's, you know. It's going to be in the re-encarnation. Cree that will, I mean, it's, you know.

So it's a very strong, no? But, yeah, but I think that, I'm in the other world is still to expect all those promises that that they say allah, no? Imagineate, all the thing that comes

detract, I go, you know, and it's a tragedy, the reality, independently of a

thing spiritual, no, a time of religion, if I'm Christian, or I'm or I'm

about the fall of a human, of a person, and that and that, from, from,

I think, it's a matter, to talk to talk with much respect. But,

but there a series of situations very furtes that are around, the fallacement

of this Papa, no, the Papa Francis, and what is coming with the theme

of the apocalypse the rebatamination in general the destruction of the life that we know we know how function

as well for some and me atrebo to say it abirtamently for me is a

thing more about and now because really how times we've not been

situations where you know from the year 1666 from the year 2000

from 2012 So, yeah, there are many occasions, many, that have repeated. Well,

but, pardon me that you interrupous, but let me recordart or make the precision,

that is only in the scriptures Judeo-Christianas in where there are documents antiquism

that are about the prophets, that this will occur all, all the other

cults, the testigues of Jeobah, or other denominations like the

Hormones, this, was, were cults even more more back, of protestantism

and that's, and that they were made a form to halar adeptos and they still existien

and you, this secta that when came the comet Halipop that's that's called Heavens Gate,

right, the door of the that's that they're in that they're in that

they're they're doing, that came to a one, they were going to, they had to have to be, they were, they were in

they, they were, they were, they were, they were, yeah, so, so, let me

say, that for those times, so, did they detected into the polvo, this comet,

other, who denominated were called the caballier Negro, that now they're saying that's an

asteroid, that's, around, right, yes, yes, so, so,

so, so, religious, no doubt absolutely of the visions that someone can't have. Because it's

like the miracles that you receive. The miracle in you actua for the work divine to Jor

without him for the time, so not it's for you say that God me help and they're

in him. God, he is, he doesn't need to our recognition. It's there are things

that can happen to someone like what he occurred to Moise to according to the Oldeo testament or

like he'll occurre to Noah in where he never saw the creator. He was, because he never saw the creator. He'd have been, and he was and he'd continue occurring. There are things that there are that the people, the spiritualities, they're about. Now,

no see if you know, but there are many rituals that receive the sacerdotes catholicos. Even so, even if they're that when, well, they're receiving an an an

an an a place in the part of the power of the power of

the power to the entire of the same that's a real thing that's that's

no no no sure there there there there

a matter of the that's the what is the hostia that

that's the can't and there we see all the the

campana that the campana that an person ritual, Excellinaria.

What we in the funeral of Papa of this George, what's called?

Jorge Vergoglio. Bergolio. Uh-huh. Francisco. Francisco, the Papa Francisco. Well,

he's to his attaute, obviously you know, why the, you know, you know, you know,

some of pontifices those put in three attaudes? No. Because They were that his

body would be conserved to the most possible because from the antiqued has been

what they have called what they're incorruptus incorruptus corpus that is a so that is a

body that's it doesn't present a signos of discoposition cadaverica or

so permanence intact even in Mexico there's I remember the case of this

Papa Francisco in Guanojato there in Marabatio of the Encinal desentierran an sacerdote

because the exhuman because he was he was he was he was his tomb

had been in what there were there were gardens and he said that he was much

a little then so the gardenerer he said the parro the parrogo the parrogo

but creyente of these most possibilities of the parision no

they they're they And it's a, it's a case documenteded in, because still they realized to the autopsy, like in 1936.

Imagineate, no? And he had died in 1800, at the, at the, of the, the, of the, of the,

the, of the, the, of the, in the, in Pueblo, there are, there's a process of the beatification.

So, so, so, so, before, to be santo, so, So, so, between these maderas,

that I'd say that with the plum and the zinc, then it impeded the proliferation bacteria in the cadaverica. Okay. It was like, like, so I'm in one of ten years and I'm going to start incorrupted, no?

Something like, something? Uh-huh. A difference of this Papa Francisco, that he knows, well, that's a ritual,

and he impidio that's made that way. Only his madder of cypress with a forrito of zinc, and so he's going to be

enterado and he even will be in the cathedral in the catacumbas

in the catacumbas because there's there's there there's the reliques

of San Pedro yes yes the the first those those those

those what are so that's a thing thing that I don't

think that I didn't see all the crues inverted so

for what cruces inverted well the theory She also, remember that all the cult of Luciferino

evoke the contrary to the sanctity. A cross parada, well, represents the passion of Christ. Sure. Others, say, as in the case, as it's in the Vatican, well, represents Peter,

and you know that Peter was martyriesed and crucified to the reverse. At the reverse, sure, yes. With that, they're not. But we know,

in the cult of luciferino, of the cult of Satanus, that represents my aberration to the baptism. That I'm going to be being taken to be that all my actions to do they,

are focused to ador to the demonio, not to the creator. Okay. So, it's like a double sense. You can't

say that it's a situation, but really is another. It's correct. It's correct. It's correct. It's correct.

It's correct. With this, I'm talking in the satanism with this we're going to pass to the time

the time that has to have to be with pactos a time a time quite interesting

because, a very, I'll do make a question? Yes. You did a pacto

how time? Has it a time? Yes, so, like, 25. 23?

23, 24. No, no, no, like, almost 30 years. 30 years

for your pact. At the day of today, you can say that that's a past,

that was that was done a or today discovered another way, different

of how I'm doing. I, I, I, I, I, so,

much orthodox to how it was the, the old texts that I, to the

I, I pegged to them, because I was that were that were they were

they were those were Probados Yeah. I think there a failure. Oh,

thank you. Sorry. So, it's, it's that's more than more than the normal.

Yeah. No, I here, I'm a ha ha ha ha. But no, at the study of

many years, Paco, I discovered that there were much many of the demon, of Satanus.

So, it was a process a a little bit of that you didst. No, antiquitism. Imagine. See, I'm about the sigils that I've tried

ago. Cyglo. Yes, sigils. For example, if we're remit to the book of San Cipiano

in where it's a way of the form of the Lord of the tiniblas, well,

we need to that you can get to get Syrios of human, that's, well, all that,

so I did, all of that, and it was a practice. Also, it was a lot of the night and the morning. It took also too much time like five years to be complimentarro. A through the studio, of the, to share with other

people, with other masters, very sabious and of much age, I could encounter other forms, no? And, my idea is that

all the knowledge that I had created in those moments where I did a ceremony, and I did all these bactos,

well, I do it I still conservant No, only that there are things that no do,

things that not I do. A see, when you say, things bad, without you

get you in problems to what you do you? Well, yeah, no, I know,

I don't desvival, things, things like, so, no, no, no,

yeah, because, because if existed in me a transformation, because let me say to

the fact, the pacto was disconocid for me. I don't I don't want to continue to enjoy

of the benefits that me have given to that's it costed the life to get a

many people for you Ron Ramon Science, to the proper Pastor Roberto

Guaso and many other other people people who were involved during those

years because maybe the people think that it's like an episode that

during a time maybe. No, it was a episode of years in

where I was an in a monasterio with Juan Ramon Sanis with the

pastor Robert Wazzo And, from there, I started to understand many things. And the form in that was programmed to my mind changed. I said, I'm going to

put to this book, all the paths that I see, all what I can say to me me functioned. And no need to give this, you need to take the other. For so it's called

So, it's like, pactos and convenios, of the realer manner of, to pacted with the Lord, without suffering, any of any. Okay. And so is possible, Jose?

Well, no. No, at final, when you're going to cover. All right. So, it's... It's something that I also, I mean, I interpret it. You said, you're talking something. When you're talking about of the demon, you obtain his favor. So, but the intention of the demonio in all the moment is destroyer. So, that's to get to, to put Trampas.

Look, the demonio in your work, for so to say to say it is constitue

the element that you take to the grace of God. Or is to say, that you

cause to fall in the that you destroy your life, that's this decarrily.

All we've been to this land with a a, with a a,

a, a destiny marked and that that's always is good. Okay.

If, when one he presents our plan of the Creator if the Lord

detect that there's that there's you know, you know, it's when you can't

come to the earth. The demon what he is is to make things in

the head, I don't see, mil things, with circumstances

for that you can be that you can be that you so so

you so that you know, but at final that he he does

the arm and who haal the gat the catio is one. So,

so one that you comets the fault, the encargated the is the

same demonio, not the creator. Okay. So, taking in

account, that in any moment, you, you, you can make a

question, so, you in any moment, that probably you probably you

find you is vulnerable the entity that, to the person, the favor

to do you can destroy? Yes. And not not as figuratively or illustratively,

not like I'm invoking or me feel devil or that I'm a little because the demon association is in my life. Me put in tantas difficulties,

so many difficulties for that one says, ah, no, I don't know the side, but I will say, sir,

I'm so so, I'm so, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, because the fact of I see a luciferin,

no, not want to say, that promote or that's or that has found a a church

a cult of the demonio the luciferinos in the line Rosa Cruz, we encarled of the

study profound of the demonio his manifestations his forms

how interact in the life of the human for so in resum to say

the the job is fregart the the person

the responsible of that is a in poverty spiritual or in poverty economic is the demonio, the demonio and create that you

tomes mal as decisions. There are many ways, because the factos and convenes is like, look, you're the man of the

land, you're the owner of that system of things, I'm going to crosser for here.

I'm to offer to you this for you to this, for that's the not as as

in a principle you can think in you do and he he does. More

well, you do and he permit that occur. Okay. But if not it's

for example in your destiny marked or the that you could be a man

very a caudal not going to occur because that is selected from the reigns

that's so much what you are what you're talking. Well, this

here we really is a fact that you just to describe. We can put the

next for the favor, because the theme of the pactos and look,

that question me has been a whole of the and that there's a series

of books that they're that they're names of the grimori

infernal, the clavicles, the same the same the same the San

Cepriano where us nomran to these entities. What are the most

the most solicited for these Patto, Josue? Well, the entrad, Satanas.

Okay. The adversary. The father, uh, to him he's a solicita this, because,

that us help, no, that intervenes positively our life. And then after there,

record we don't the other demons are legions, but at final they're commanded by him,

nothing in the world demoniac is so the beneplastic of Satanas. For so

we can say that he is He's the same. Only that at moment to interact with the

human, those series spiritual, there are there's of a natural or of

a general category to illustrate this. But this Lucifugio Rofocale, this

satanasia, this Belceu, this Pasusu and there many many names

that can refer to imagine that are things are different but simply

are different to call to the same Satanas. Okay. And the

Satanas, if you do you change the name, he will transform his rostro

to present as someone different. How has manifested to you? How has manifested?

Well, I never have seen with cairns. Sure, the figure

renacentist, no? Yes, but in the thought of the theatricality literary, no?

Clearly, I don't know because has much relation, because the color rojo, I always the person, the first that I saw the demonio was

a bird. Okay. So, that was he, and he was two patas. Parado in two patas? He was just two patas totally ergued, was it very trompud and mirabh, and it was

the first time that I was up that I was front of the sameissimo. After there, I, he'd a man very high, negro,

so, negro, negro, like your saco, no? This, delicate, her, his cabello

chino, but it was very, very, so a so, a black, I know,

I know, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,

very, other occasions I've seen in a woman. So, so, being a

figure, a figure, a woman. A woman. Fiatte, that I was I,

in a moment of a moment of debilidad spiritual, never I've never,

I've done a little, but, man, Adelante, you're in

confidence. Well, I'm in a moment of a debilitary and I'm

really had passed many years of the battle spiritual. Me they were

accused that he had murdered to Juan Ramon, Al

Paso and all this process so I think that all that

I thought that that I think is that I'm in a place

in a reunion a one of the other moment I didn't I don't I'm

doing a retrospective I said it's what I'm really to do you your

all your all right and in that you know I said I'm I can't and

no me important in the comment X in this point of this point

to meet a person I'm a woman that me and I started something

that I'm got done I'm got Josue, has been of you, how you go, and I said, and I was, I said, I mean, I had I said, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was able to, I was, I was invisible, and the people in those times.

The point is that, coincide us, and we went to, and we went to a place, a private, a place apartado, well, if I was going to be with this woman. But I don't see other other

other other more than attraction I'm I'm happy, I felt

content I felt like things so and we we were

a a a a a place a a

a place more private and is that is that I'm just

I'm getting there and being there I'm sent

in the in the foot of the camera in front there was a

a spejo great and I thought because of not we're totally the light

and the light tenue I don't see his reflection but

no I don't I don't know I'm I'm okay permit

I let me I'm to be to I'm to because

no I don't no nothing of that but I want to

And when I go, the, I don't know I'm I don't know if I did a plegaria in the, in the in the room in that moment, but you know, those quarters have in the room inmediate, no? Salgo and this, this ser, was, atosted, this, de cubito, so, like, of the lado, no-seh, how to explain. Yes, the ladito.

De-lad-to. Uh-huh. So, I'm subo to the camera, incado, and I'll, well, for incorporar her. And I was the devil. It was a demon. What? It was a demon.

How did you How did you? When he was, when he was, when he was, he was, ah, those dents,

I saw a man black, a man, a man, a man, black, and his dents very black,

so, and me saw, and I, I, and I, I, a fear that

he had been, I've been, so, no, sir? And, So, so

So, so And of this type of things, and recently, well, ultimately, or more

during, always, in the house, there's, that never me have abandoned from those

years, I've been for a 30 years. So, two serres very regortetes, Paco.

And, and they always are together. But are two serres, are like two men,

so, of a sudden they're like, they're like Like, as long as they've been, and more closer, see a car of an adult, yeah

a big, yeah, well, no arugada, but of a person. Like a cheeneches? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like chanekes, no, like, so, like, so, it's, and you're just a car is of a man.

Mm-hmm. No, biggitos. Okay. Simply, a man. And, you know, they're those who always are in the second piece and they're in the ventana. And I don't have no problem in my or something, or something that you can't, ah, you have episodes psychotic? No, no, no.

And then, in the world spiritual, are those beings that always are there, like, or, I don't hear about, or, I don't know. I don't know if I'm doing a work, well, if I hear things. But if you think there's that there's a certain of you, like, they're, like, they're,

so, no, that is, that's, so, if we're just, if we're just, we're having this platica there, really, yeah we're with

the with the those perros awiando. Look, it's a place where

there's many many many manifestations to where I live Paco

around there were there were in a fraccionation well yeah no

no nobody so they've went they've gone for

years then then the people go and me paint cruises

of Cal and all, so. Yes. Yes. You know. The people. Okay.

Well, yeah, the people of the people, yes, see, see, see,

see, people, and they, and they put, and they bring, they're gonna

coronas of, this, this, this, this, this, the pericone,

that's a plant to spantar okay, demons, yeah, yeah, is a plant,

and recordaras that the day 29 of September, the day of San

Miguel Archangel So, they create these coronetas or cruises of Pericom with those espantal malignant and I'm

but I don't say that's like for my person but the people see what's so much okay, look

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I don't anneal or something that's a knell because it's me

come up no no no I think I think I think I'm

so I'm very so there's no there's no something but not something

that's super desiring no the question okay let's the next for favor

says it's it's really that you use entities malignas

that appeared from from you know, that's that's that's

that's I've talked about in some moment what what happens and

yeah I've been many many people me say I don't go pass with

when you know I'm generally generally I'm only I'm

I'm I'm I'm can't passia in all no where

where's there's where I'm there's there is but generally

apparently Paco you know you Yeah. Very tranquil. But I said,

no, I'm going to go to, oh, I mean, God, we know we're going to see, we've seen two men,

then they're always, always have been always had been, but I think, so, so,

so, so, so, but those, they're doing? Yes, those are you see,

so much, we're, we're going, we're going, we're going to the last, a,

Lucifu, rofocal, no. Yeah, no, only was that that was the instant is the

that's the that's the no that's it was satanass okay that's that's so I'm

that by sure I'm I'm saying I was living some notes for a book that I'm doing that

that was that was that was a a a a a

a so okay was a so you're saying because you

know the crucifion of Christ so So, we see the calendar lunar 40 days

after the first lunar of March Mm-hmm. So, this, this,

this click on our life, Paco, and I said, and so I recorded that had been a Juebe

Santo, I said, what day so hard for that I'd have received that manifestation

of the demonio? No, Because, because, those I respect. Now,

now I don't, I don't do nothing in a month but in that you... You have to get it to the

microbe? Yes, in that I do more things, this, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no. Okay. Well, for the question, there's the response. Faulta

one more. All to do you do you do your conditions, although to certain

way, it's more to be going to occur no exists

no exist no exist no exist no no exist that you can't

because we can look even you know I think I think me I'm you know

and to get her and to this and the other no you know you know

you know how no how not you suffer what I what I conced

and at no no I don't I don't I want it's the infire I

no I don't I want this he's going to matter in my house

and it's that's those work on those people are very so I'm saying

it's that it's that's that's that's that's that's that's

my point well well but what I do you say

is that your your your peace no you can't it's

like that's a person that's time to be doing his

so so so he's no he's for to his

sanation. To be if someone locura. Imagine no. No, then you

like with the demon or no. For that no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, I've talked to I've

commented and I've got much to the question. I'm a specific, no,

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

because, in all, in all, all, all what I have learned, no

it's possible is a form literally talking of to say, I'm my

body and my power to your adoration and to what one is

to make to make reunions in your name to invoke and

to roll and he's what he he he said and so

I offer every every every every I going to

I'm to you to the demonio to the

demonio and And with the pass you are doing that

is very, very difficult. You can say, how you can

be difficult? Well, yes. It's a moment where there is a cause

to your life and says, no. Okay, so it's complicated. No, it's,

yeah, because he is, he's, well, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, so it's a energy similar, similar,

and that's that's so, no, no, not support, you're,

you're yeah, no, no, no, no, it's, it's, it's, is very complex. Oh, and what happens if no do you do, it's, you, the, he, cobr a factor? Well, one, then, then, you know, so, it's a retireeal of the benefit. Yes. And two, this, this is, topriming the

of the, this, that, the, that's, that's, to submit to a, a, or so, to get to the, to your limit corporal and you're it's all it's a good, sir,

and you get back, okay. Oye, because he's he's present, pardon,

with his emissaries, and you say, you say, you know, if you do you do this,

what you think you going to be a good a good, a good, a good deal,

a, but not is so, because all is encamined to to,

to, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,

a, okay I have a question for you Jose and that I'm going

to do I'm the way you I'm that I did you see that

you see that's a matter of the right not it is necessary well I'm

my scapulario yeah because in those things there are to do

because well I'm so I'm so I'm very very vulnerable to

this type of when I talk of him he it so

pass things and the and the lot of not not to

protect me you but to protect my entorn with

who people and really not because let's something

well well so so well well well well

well that that so that yeah but but were

for that that there's many many there many

the rosario of Maria Santitima the Maria Mercedes, there are many, and that existen, and that are

powerful, and that the demons are exorcisan with that. So, that's real. So, so, that's real, then, so, while it's like, like, well, if there's a protection that impede, is a repellent, no permit that we're rode in. Sure, okay.

I'm sorry, okay. Let's go to the next theme, do you know? Yes. For favor, the next thing? Dice The process To make a pacto

Myths and realities You just You just described A pacto That's in via the train Yeah What is Dime

What is? Dime what would A reality of a pact What would A myth? It's a mytho. It's mytho

that Satan has presented Okay. It's very complex. And that in that form literary, literary that we

have with cures, cola, so trinch. Ah, with his trinchete, is called? Trinche. Something.

Or with her cola picuda or with the patas of cabra. Really, I don't know even because has that image.

Talvers in a messl that has made with the faunners of Ireland, remember

that is an image European. Well, no, no, I know. It's

that the person to be present as a friend, like a girl that you

like you like to help. Yes. And the presence of the demonio

Paco no is that I did and I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm the person of the malign in your life is someone that's

someone that's a family in the family. And the Demonio wants

derrumbart you imagine but you are a man solid with

family and you're so what he can what he can

do a pacco but have to present a other

chica and from the demon because the demon has to create

the conditions for that one that you need that

you be tentating is the tentator so then then

it process. And for the demon no exists the time. It's the most patient, no? Exactly. And you, look, at this, and at a rata, and what we're going to do to do it? The time, we'll do we'll have to do this? We'll do we'll make it.

Or so, that's, that's what we'll get the cause, that's romped his matrimony, and to the vio, we'll maintain. And if there are many entities spiritual in this world, so, that's, satan, not is the only, there are many manifestations. We remember that the Antio Testament

us about, that he's came with three quarters of the creatures. So, and there are many demons.

There's a demonio that's called Wolfo, so he's he knows. Recordemus that the

names have done as well to the things to put them in the space and

facilitate your identification and your study. Some have an origin

real etymological, is And others, well, no. Simply for to beacarles? Simply for to beacarles. In this case,

this demonio, no know his etymology. But, but, but this is the demonio that's always

bring bols. Trails the sackos here, and is a vagabund. He's vandal. He's over

those can, for the books. And he's he's the because, because a sacerdote

me, me, I've said, the times that I've made, the time he's the

liberated to the people that's like homeless, those that are in the street, and I don't have I'm reapered

in telling that the people that's in the cargating, those who have been in the autopista coming,

they're in a lot of bags because emulan to that energy satemoneica. Okay. It has

well, it's all the logic of the world when you do you do you say. And so, and I'm

it's incredible, we're trying we're trying to learn that's all that's what what could

do? And what Because is that there are many things that that's about. That the demonio require to

our own. Sure. Because it's not even if you pertainse to you. It's

me, what we do we can offer to the demonio and what he's is,

culto and adoration. Ser recognized as the superiority. And is what he's what

he says like a God put him. He's like a kind of he always

like he's ever so you do that I say Yes, sir. You're my

God and me le I'm a rodillo, no? This, also it's a myth

that's a satanat well. Oh, but I'll say something with a much

respect. Yes. He doesn't? A satanaz? Uh-huh. No, well,

he can't, he, he, he, no, you know, I'm, I'm going to

occupy a little the logic because, for example, he always, he's

always, he's like God, but he knows that he can't get to be like, for that he likes, that he likes, like, like. Well, he likes to receive the trato, the most similar, and the only

form in that he confirm that's a lealted to him is the disconnociment of the question religious, the question of the question of God. For that many people say, no, my God is Satanus, but that also, that also

can't be. The creator, because Satanus, not is the Creator. It's a energy primigenia. God has a

same time that created the world. It's made and composed of the same form than

us. For that the demonio when we would be to be a natural, identical to

our natural. That's great, man. Oh, and a ultimate reality

that you can you can't say? The demonio is an omnipresencia

and is very powerful. Yes, we're a Sometimes we want to restar power. No, it's a

clear that's a person powerful. No, well, the demonio right is doing damage here in Tuxtepec

and in CDMX, no? So, that is possible. Because, because, because the

demonio actua at the through the of us. For that he's all he's all

parts where exists the mal. Correct. Recordem that a person can,

how can meddle the maldade in a person? There's a form psychologically talking but

not to where you referres The mald in a person is directly proportional to the felicity

that is capable of robar Okay If if you you're putting doing the good

You're making You know simply not you do Well you're Well you're Malo Okay

Although you I don't have the obligation to do but you know, you know, opts

for the bad or not opts for the good. If I, if I'm to retire to let me,

it's that's the fact that I'm able to robber to someone, well, is my

level of malta and in that's that's actuble and that that's

that's, look, that's a question for Josue, exists the reencarnation my

nobio was as and in suions, me said me embarace for

that will be to get to know, how much, that's possible?

Well, the reencarnation yes, we, we think that, uh,

fiat, like, all the number of almas for exist in the, in this

plan, were now created. And all we're just we're in the reign celestial,

expecting then we're going to be, uh, but it's possible that

exist. So, they're There are families that who is more his son. So the other is the

life of the child. It's complex the time to explain. If it's there's a communication of

a spirituality, this, of a spirit, of a mortal, the I think the way,

is the form, is like the way more short and maybe more possible for the

spirits to communicate with us in this plan of the lives. Yes. But,

but I I think the mortals generally not have like that conciences okay

just to what we talked about so so that so can be so they can

be able to they're that you they're they're they're they they're

to clamar something is that they're they're with the form of your

nobio or so for that you let you you let's the

demonio no doesn't to no he may. Tal qual. For rapid. That's the

response. Before to start, before you do you know, you know, for here we have to be

a person's, let me, I'm saying to give us and I'm want to say, I'm a ruby says Ruby

Hach, saludos, and say the second question, I put you let me say,

I'm saying, thank, thank you for your question on Instagram you know we'll

send us a great, a great, and it's also Rossi Valderas. Much

thanks for to be here. Thank you. Saludos, Paquito from the Paraguay. Saludos, to Paraguay. Also, also Paraguay.

Also, thank you, thank you for being with us. Like, every Saturday, we'll make us and we'll be in the city of

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me, says, Salud me, say, Gabriel, thanks for start with us us. Thank you,

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Magos. And saluted me. Saludely, talk about a fertissimo. Abrazo. You can't send some

there. There's the panel. I'm going to pause this. There's. Oh, yeah. Because it's

rapidism this. There's, well, well, I want to send to all

your your followers in general, to all the countries to those who get your transmission, Paco, well, all this people interested in the things paranormal. I know that many don't believe in

God, but recordem what Pita Moore us said, that is in this life that it's in this life, that is in this

life when God is necessary no no, not after of a clear. And

God, and God can provide absolutely all of what we are what we need us.

I remember God no, no, we made this system of things to

sufferer. We pass an things for our decisions. So the

prayer helps. So the Saludos, to Alex, to Gloria Marcos, and at all of

Argentina. That's all of the world, no? All the world. Okay. Much thanks. Thank you.

Thank you, I'm also to come back before that you know, you know, you know because

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that you send to the audience and, for you please, they can put it, what is the pacto more important that has heard or presencied? Well, I think

that the majority of the pactos are strong because they anclan to a service, to a, a,

servitude to the demonio one one one one in well

well is that is that there's one one one one

me me they're they're they're they're a rancheria then

it was very difficult that someone external only would be able to rob. So, I was there

the kid. So, well, someone who is a locutor of the other, of a

television, me, I asked, I'm, I'm, I'm and I'm get, well,

I'm going to make the direction, and I'm going to be going to be to be to be to be,

and it and he discovered that had been his primos, those

who had had, this, uh, assassinated to the God,

looking a pact. How do you that had had been the 12 years, 9 years, 8 years

and it was the different was, it was a so, so, this this

this is to identify that when the maligno you are to be valioous, valiant,

how is that you have, that you have a valor, Valeroso. Valeroso.

You'd have to say that not to do do this. At the moment me I'd I'm going to I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm about me to get me

at the one of the morning at the house, no, no, now I'm no, now, I'm not,

no, but I'm, I'm like, I think, in a million things. In this moment, then you

know, then you're from the demonio, from that you, you can't have a contact with him,

not you look at your forces. Those are the things more that I've seen in a pacto.

Okay, but they were the idea of what they were doing, so in the sense,

yeah, I knew they they were to do it, but they were exactly how to do it

like the idea conceived imagine to someone to someone of someone to be someone,

but maybe that's that I was playing playing mobile no see my jubbet it's

also for all the information that we to the that we No, I don't know, no exists

a conscience obviously more than the influence of the maligno that's there. There are demons that

they're to make to the fear, to the, to the phobias. There are

demons that they're to submit to the person. There's there's a single

to do you to come to come to be someone there may be there and so

there's there a more to illustrate this briefly This

Shella, her His son, the Shella, to work very Temprano, encargaped his mother-solterra Yeah,

you know, the drama, no, common And the she was had been to have a son, a

his son, to his his wife, to the she was, to be given dormido, ah,

is that's he was done to get to the child, but the she always

he always was just to do To eat, Leach, and no, and no,

the little he was going to get to get to the hospital infantil of Mexico. That's

in the city of Mexico. The doctor he says the the new has been

meningitis. Yeah, you'll be it to, well, to pre-beer all,

because this is a murder imminent. Well, the signora, obviously

imagine, without, without, without anybody that So, all the chaos that this can't signify in an individual.

She refers, I said, well, me salie, start yoree there, says, I, to cross the carcada and there's a point grandot.

And I was there and I was thinking to what I was thinking to, what I said? I was saying, well, I'm going to go and then you're going to

enderarar because I don't have to do it. Or, what I do? I think that, well,

she says that, in his mental and all he's he's a

woman and he's not this not this life this life get to

get to get to the and he yeah uh yeah yeah

and and he and to to to share and

she he said that his she had to she

was she was she was she she she she

she was she she was she was she was enterer with with her in the

house in the house and that they were to be going to get to not.

And then he was to get to get to get to the point. He said,

my he said, no, I'm, I'm, I said, no, I said,

yeah, what I'm what I'm, yeah, what I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sure,

I'm sure, I'm sure he's, he's, no, if you don't know, you're going, blah,

blah, blah, and says, then we we're a point, a diskanso,

she says, I mean I came here with the woman like, well, mal,

mal, mal, well, this, he said she, when she got to

get to the first of the escalator, Oye, listen, that he grita

his name. Imagine Mary, Maria. He said, me surprised that voice

because it was the voice of my mom was my mother, she, my mom,

she, me surprised, the voice in that moment, so if I thought that my mom was to nothing,

simply, who I'm going, I'll, I'll, I'm, I'm, I'm,

and when I'm, obviously, no, I was there's very advanced and when

when I went to my, my, my vista, perfilar to get up with the

woman that I came in the other, this, she was, she was, it was one of the

one of the one of the demonio to get me, to get to get me, and so, and so,

so, so, how, How can you get to manifest to any way? In any

in how you imagine you can't what you're saying. Thank you, Joseph, for contest. We're going with the

next thing, for favor. Because it came here. For a here, for a car, for a favor.

It's for a car. Okay. Dice. Okay, Jose, this is you're going

to be interested much. Because he says invocations and manifestations of other

what we are talking how can get to manifest there's there's

a situation that you you have commented, the same Unicornio Negro

has said and me they have commented that when is

the manifestation of a demonio the energy of this is so

dense that too that that that dolega a

other person also and that even you even

said something I said something because you you mentioned

you mentioned how many of the panesies of the sunno in the potts no well I was you but you know but how can't

have seen a sumbid a noise in your when you're in paralysis that's that's difficult I'm

I'm I'm past and you what you what you what you what you said when

you said because the presence that was announcing this that thing malignant, your presence.

It's rompient our aura that we all have perforing. Okay. And that's the so is the

rude. So, the zumbido. The zumbido. But you know, but you know that's the

attention, Josue? That that Zumbido is present in abductions. Ah. Look,

this sonodoo many of they're with the aleteer of the longostas. Uh-huh.

Uh-huh. So, that's a sub-bid that is complicated like, replicarily, um, electronically.

But, but, so, are, some, son, that's unrupsion in our energy.

Okay. And so means that the entity is a near you? Well, yeah,

in your aura, yeah, it's in your energy, yeah, yeah, yeah,

it's, yeah, it, how you see when that's so no, for me,

my, my, my, my, time for me, my, time, the, you know,

I don't know, I'm, I don't know, so I'm, so I'm, I'm a lot of protections, because if not is,

one is other, the things that they've a perturbate or literally to

really to molest me. So, with that I'm to make a margin that

not so me can't these protections very prepared like the Syrio

Pasqual that especially here in Domingo of Resurrection was received

the bendition because are things divin because the

sacerdotes Catholic know RITos that I know and they know

secret that, obviously, I know. The sacerdots are powerful. The sacerdots are people of much power. I mean, they're in the power of curation with the imposition of the man. It has. Sure, that they're

and more if are Jesuitas or of some order Franciscana. No, no, no, no. If they're not, no, no. So, they're there for those who have been a doubt of how suede the manifestation of when it's a certain an entity. We'll help

to the next for favor. It's objects maldits to make

a pactos to be that I'm very much because of a repis I'm a

man who is a maldita has a one of a unical and you

see the ritual that it's how it has ritualized so

it's about to be a a series of something and in an

object there there is there us, you can't say of that? See, I mean, the

same form, all the material is a through the vibrations, to what

are the, to what are exposed. Imagine we're that in this mess, always there always

there's, always there things positive, so this matter, absorb those energies,

modifics their vibration. All to get to another place, emmanerer, that same

energy. This message to hear this message for this is positive. Now, imagine

one a mess in where a example a mess of a for necropsias

imagine no element you know in the bruncheria many of the things

so get the element that is a person that can be

the person that's the so and you can you can

you in a in a cell of a so so

you don't in the tub of the the muleta

you so that that that That's a load that generate that apparatus in a person infirm,

so, the transmute to who you're prepared the job. The energy, clear, is transmutable. The energy is

dirigible. For example, in the remedies magicos, in my medicines poweros that I

think I think I form in Casa Grimorion, well in that function, to vincular

the energy positive to the money, in in relations, in recognition, in in success, in all, in

all. Because the energy can't manipulate. So that's the secret real of a practicante

of the cheeseria. It's for that we can't that energy in a glass of

an object maldito, a prenda of a thing. It's like when they're when someone

is doing when he's done, and the people and I say, but I do you

do I do do to do of heart because they're to grabas

the plato and you know, with this chionado, with this churrillo you're going to

do this he's to get to the elements for what what are to do that the energy

of that person and it's that that's that there's the response

for those who were the question. We're going to let's let's

let's let's let's the grimorios and the bivos in the

pactos you have your my own grimorio. Well, yes, I have various

books that are about rituals and about works, is to see, over chisceria.

Tomaras cabello of tal cause and plums of tal animal, they'll be a

convertice in polvo, it will apply, so on the photo of the person. That is

a grimorios, a compendio of instructions of works for a fine determined. For example,

then So I've written various books, no, and they'll put in in the books of Josue Velasquez and they're

there's always there's not where one's in-venta and others who are for a free.

Okay. A-be one question. What is the element more complicated of the invocation

more difficult? Because, to what I'm, we? We've got in one of the podcasts that

grab us the way to invoke to invoked a demon simple

occuping some times of the train 12 of the night canela

a marty and other element something whatever could do you

but what would be an element difficult to make an

invocation of another different depending depending about exactly

what spiritualities what energies we want to to

the demons superiors superi of the or estes, so

celest. For example, the Syrios that are used, then it's a sebo vacuno,

so it's a sebo-de-res, but sebo-humano. So, it's very complex to reunir the

grass human. And how so do you do you have to compare the human?

And that they're going? No. In Mexico is it's prohibited to the vent of

organes and Tejids. I mean, you can't never neither the blood. For that's

it's it's obtained rebatting her, I'm rebatan't then

I mean if I would be well, because also it's a process you have

to get the blood, the the grass imagine if we want to

a a medical that is a liposuction well, it's

a process in where there to separate the the liquid

and sustraer it. It's a process alchymical, for so it's, so it's things difficult. For example, look, within the cults prohibits, more profound that they're practicant,

in those that I'm not still involved, is, for example, there's a representation that's made of the Misa Negra. The Misa Negra is a representation of the Liturgia

Catholic, in where it's going to consangar the the the, the blood of Christ

so in these misas in this misas in best of the hostia and the vine of consangar

that is the blood of Christ because here literally actually there exists in the

in a in a cross or in the cup and that and that they

adder some and the sacerote he gets to move provoking provoking

the coagulation of this. So, he's a caul, like gelatina, like, so, so,

so, so, so, and that is separated, this, the liquid that is,

it's, will represent the, the, the, the, the, the,

of Christ, derramed, really, and the coagul, will represent their so carne.

So, so all the participants, then they come and bebe of him

and look that are you occupy more the macho cabriot well it would be a

this is a cult primigeneo this is a cult this antiquis now

now now so it's and they are very specific

because as they're to consume to consume that's

that's that's that's that's that I'm going to have to a

kind of imagineate that's that that's a tremendous problem could

get to get to that person that can eat, yes yes yes

does this bruselitis this this yeah no I don't

know whatever teris clear of whatever whatever whatever

let let's let's go for for favor because

we we And that interesting. Pactos fallied, stories of who are

and fracasar Josue? Well, I know many who have intended, but

fracasan because are irrespectuos and not serve in the protocol or the process. Okay.

The divinidad you ask, for example, that when when you're when you're having to have been

contact carnal, that you have a purification, that you have been, that you maintain things of that type

so much people so much people do not to have been more druged or alcoholized

or alcoholized so then simply not you enter in citonia for that you know

you can't but there are other other elements additional to a thing

of a example for there a person has talked that there

a preparation previa very very of that has to

take certain tomos to elevate the energy of the person

for that when you're in front to the demon then you, then it's dismayed, no, it's

no say, no, no, no, no, no, none, look,

why, we're we're we're not, because no exists

other literature that about those masters that we have, we've

learned the contactos. Sure. San Cyprian and many friels

of the church a catholic, various, and any one of them talks to enter in ecstasis, a through the ingest, or consumption of some hallucinogen, no, the demon, he's exigie, that you're completely in your five senses, sobri,

concentrated, and that the only energy that's emanen be the pure natural. And you're to be snud. And you're to be be done-nudo. Yes, so are that's

done when there's when there when I'm on the people, imagineate

that we are in a church, and all the followers, are the people,

are the people who are doing the process of purification, we're going to be in presence,

we're in we're going to have provided contact carnal previous, and yeah.

Posterior to the Cena So, we can start to bever something that can't enter in a type of frenes,

but that is to disinibing, because it's to have there there, postments very grotescos, no?

But, but while it's in presence of the divinidad, no, we can do do this.

Okay. There's a rapid... So, is a myth that that's enorgias in the misas

ne'eras, no, there are many groups there of rickillos or, or, or,

no rikillos, that they're going to to play to the Uiha, what are going to be going to see to the Uiha and they're going to and end in pedia

that's very different, no? I'm just that's never, that's true in the en-vibu. Yeah, I want to

a story that in Malbatica, a person, you know, what does? Pactos, but they're in a cemetery.

He says that there was a woman that I think he was using I don't remember, but I think

that was the necronomical, I don't recall if it's so I'm going to be able to get

and the woman is a question in the cemetery in a lapida

specific completely despojated of his prendas and start like everything

the ritual and at the long says that she be a

like an an entity between the tombas alt like

like like like like as kind like And she And she says

to the woman, yeah that. Levantate and come to him. He's

that only see how is the woman coming, he's and when he gets

this thing, like he he's like his and so and so they're

like, I see 20 minutes. Demurro? The and this regress

ecstaciated and this Abrazo There Yeah He did Chico, Tio

Tum Tubbered Intimid That's So, me What I said And the question

Here is That's Possible No No No No, the Demonio

No has There There's There Many Literature They're

They're Sex with Demonio Even In the Malios Malifik

this book manual of the Kramer for to murder to murder and cast her a tonteria in Maldeus

Malifikarum well in a moment was the book, was the encyclopedia was the ruse

of the the chasaders and that servia as manual to the inquisiders to know

to say you are you said you have been sex with the demonio but it was a

cause of discomunion and put you this person not if it was your invite

but, but surement all what has said is that we know, we have

to observe the next. The book of the Moredos, the

Necronomicon, is a book that no existio that only existed

in the relato of Lovecraft that he, he, he said, and he

is that there's that there's a book the necronomicon but he invented that

supposed book, never existed even even one could put

on internet the necronomom Mimicon, and will exist. Because someone he did it.

Someone wrote and said, someone was to look to, if I'm to be able? Yes, and he

started, and he was to, but that the book really never existio. So,

although no doubt that the Panteon be a portal of energy for certain types

of spiritualities, the same demonio has a adoration generally are the Cuevas, the

sir of the caverns, the general of the infamund the

general of the non- know of the pantheon is a place a place

a other type of energies and the demon this

has has very very very very I'm limited

knowledge could say that no there there there

Spiritus Descarned. What is a spirit Descarnado? A spirit Descarnado is a spirit like I. Mewerrower

my spirit. So my spirit is desencarned of me. No, are they're not spirits primigeneous,

is to say, spirits that, that's demons, that don't have a origin human. No, exactly.

Thank you. They're they can come and can try to have intimid with the woman,

and I know, many relato, this, that me are those that I, in the night I'm in the

night, I'm blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm a lot. I'm not in a dream.

I, I'm, I'm, I feel this presence. I'm, I feel like me are my peaches,

I'm, I know, I, so, so, I've been commented many people, so that's so, so, that's

so it's certain. Although, also can't say, that those spirits, all not

have transcended, then, they're to form part of the vests satanical, demoniacas, so they're

in other pings. For so they're this capacity to materialize. That's great, no? And, yeah,

and so, I know, cases of, precisely, of women, more of women than have experienced

this type of... Attacks sexual. Yeah, of attacks, exactly. Passes to the next, for favor.

Passed to the next. Passes to the next. A-er- this is a thing interesting,

because and religions. This is possible being that there are religions where no exist like a figure

demoniac, but if entities with the same characteristics, Josue? Well, with the same

more characteristics, with the own most powers, we're going to say, well, the Hindus

have more of five million, or gods, no? Imagine. And the those Hindus,

well, I'm more than more than, million, so they're like some,

like, so, but, but, but, but, cults and religions. In all, there are pactos and convenes.

The same is Christ with the pacto after the diluvio, with his people. Or so that's always, so that's always, so that's only that in the literature, a veces those

disfrasamos or those illustrae of a way distinct, but the pacto and the always has existed between the divinities superiaries and we, and

we're also. Okay. So, And so, because there certain relation, I've mentioned

earlierly, there's a certain relation that exists with persons that have inquentros

with entities both demoniacas as other questions, even I am atro to say

to type alienigenas omnis or things strange that are that are that are

happening when they're inquent we're going to call it with so that

they're not something can be so. So I so I can see what I can see. And so are things quite strange,

but, without, there is for the people who are the question, because a lot of sometimes, it's sule

suede, that there is a certain confusion, no? Exist a certain confusion if the demonios exist in

other cultures, although there are characteristics even physical, where we're with cairns, other times,

the quernos, the corns, and descriptions that's quite strange. Let's go to the next for the

Let's say I'm going to No, Adelente All right All right Allent Okay

We're going With the We're Let's go to The questions So So far The questions

Pendient Josue To be There There's There Is there Is there

No No No no no No no No no No

No No it's Like when someone Firm a A

a A A contract a convene and me you pay you pay you pay you

and the if you you want to you're going to you're going to pay so the other person simply

can't know and to generate pay. The other person will be exercer action

penal or legal against this person always the demon and says ah

no orita but but then then you will be you then you

I think I'm our life here, we'll have to get to

the incrucised of the murtos the place of the agonia Paco

in where the encargated to give chocas is Satanas and there we'll

go back in when we purification we're going again we're again

I think that I ideologically I think that so. So, well

always always will be consequences look, in all the entities spiritual

is whatever is your manifestation or the form that they're the

Santa Morte San Charbel San Judo or any entity they're going to

talk about this pattern that that's repite between the leaders of the

Santa Morte what's they're having with their primogent

and so that the pay always it's the of the actually, for the

people that think, you know, no, no, that result that you can't

you can't and it's like you want to prepare tortillas, who's, who's, who's,

there's there's so, because of a really, because so they're

going, in very, I'm, you, you know, if you're in any of my

publications, I'm about it, because it's a fact, with me, or you do you do you do

pact to or such a person or something, well, well, because, well, no,

because, well, my forms of action are not other, are different, and,

and, I have a lot of artists, with people of, this, of power and

all, and also, with people, like, colloquial like I, no, box populi,

all, all receive my same attention and all are mecese of the favors

of the divinity or of the pingo. So, but if, if, people are saying, I, I pacted a this and for me is famous, this, well, no.

For pactors, no. Also, not all the fame provine of the pactors, clearly, no. No, definitely. No, no. There are many elements. Look, there are

things that are obstructing your felicity, your progress, your development, a social social, and go to an adivination,

we'll say, ah, me, you don't start, what pincha embruched? That's going to get $20,000 in darts

in the mother? That's what? So, what benefit you can make you

to get to think to if you're a person or not be a victim of,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's like, for example when one

with his contract escorts, the escorts, there's those companies do you

do some in an encuester to to be to be to be so,

okay. See? Ah, and they say, no, well, you,

you, for more divo that you know, jefe, you're not going to get to

shingarsel. No, it's sequestrable. Okay. You're just a top sequestrable. So,

you know, no, no, no, he can't have two , you need to

this and this and this. Well, so, this, this, what me's going to, no,

is my pinche compad, that me, that's my man, no, no,

no, no, not always, but what I'm my commenter is that

there are things very very simple or not so complex Paco that in your life are impiding

that's that's that you have to get to be with your health with your

progress with your and you do it is doing it's doing a so you want

to do that you go to say let's get this

I'm to get this and I let me let me my let me

my liquor and to let me get they're they're

they're and it's ah is that the divinidad me

do. No, the divinidad permitted now, so that yeah to act

in your life. Because it's something that's a lot. Yeah, because

there's there's people who want to do you get that they do you do say,

never going to be superar because that that's that's not, no, no,

we can do it so no, no, we're so for the person that's the

question, and we have the question, and we're the last question, Joseph,

the last question of the last question of night, because we're in the

recta final. It's a perspective of Josue, what is the good type of

favor that's could receive to a demonio? Well, the restitution of the

health. Okay. What we talked about in content exclusive. Ah, see.

I'll say, I'm going to answer that question, because yeah I know,

I'll I'm about, I know I know he, the known of suerte or

change of the head. Only I'm going to say that for me is of the

things of the things more more denses in the drugeria and that

Jose us talked about in content exclusive that we're doing

much content for when you can you can do you do you do this

end of this end of summer remember we're we're we're we're

we're we're we're where in in the state of Mexico

me it's Pean of Lobos we to go. In fact, tomorrow in

the night we're in the night of the night of the night of the 30 April,

where disappear in the we're going to be in plenoboske we're going to be evidence of what

that's so much so much send us much blessing because we we're going to do you

what you do you what we're where we're where we're a place mystic I said that I'm the only

recording that I've seen Fidigna of a because there are seres elementals that I've seen I've seen, I don't with a cameraita or nothing this,

was taken there. Precisely in an investigation that was doing to Juan Ramon Sainz in those

feches, his camera can't capture a, a, a, a,

a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,

a woman, with alas so miniaturita I don't know I don't know I don't know I think it's

they're talking in the obscurity with a camera VHS what format analogs yeah yeah

yeah yeah yeah and for and to get those details of his

eyes how she moved in the car it should be a little

great so so that so that that type of things are interesting

so yeah creami that there there are a world extraordinary is like when

if you You're taking a microscope and start to see the mesa, they'll be all the germen it's an other world.

So, when you're putting attention in in discovering the world paranormal, you know, they've made

to know that many of the things that is real. And, and we've been very close to

Paco, of the questions esotericas. Yes. From the the caricatures in where you see,

there's, there's a agenda political, there's there are groups sectaries that make

that the esoterism perme in all the societies thus are in the caricatures. Recurred, from the years

70, these these, uh, these, uh, when they're those pitufes,

for example, no? In where those spirits, who they said, how they said, how they said, how they said,

why that's why the alcohol to the, like the mescal and all those, uh,

I'm sorry? No. Because? Because, because, because, it's a energy and

it's, halla, uh, attracts. The, those atraise. The, those,

And in the, for example, when when you read the pulke, it's like that's manifestable three hundred connejos, or threecent's different personalities.

Imagineate. 300 spirits, yes, that you could be one. The people, it's a disiniva or tomas or it will be violent

or tomah and it's all these menaces. Well, then these, these, these, pitufitos, this,

we've, we've gotgam no, that was in the o'clock or the bruchita that are in soyl and the

hairna nega and what pelos of coyote and, what eyes of sapo. Well, really

So, so So, Alchimian. With elements For example. Oh, I want a

medicine for my business for to have a yearb B, yearba

a head of bivora Cascabel of bivora. Why? Because what does the Vibora?

With her cascabel? Provocca It's like a... So, so, so,

so, you know, it's to call the attention. So, so, It's to hauling

the energy and let's when you get to when you're going to be going to be there's a

there and they're there and they're so they're like you do you know the people

the people me say is that I'm going to do you because no you know to make

a impact that you implore to do you it's medicine normal or

yeah oh le holy that's how far man how do you how

you're so well very interesting very very entertaining

and And, well, too, because it's a lot of times, because it's a lot of times. Right, yeah, they're calmed, the comments. Right, yeah, they're more tranquil.

But if, after a rata, they're in-leadles. Oh, yeah, thanks for accept the invitation. Thanks for coming to here to

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Well, this last book, and referring to the theme is of pactos and the

the true manner of practicate the pactos and convenes no,

it's a legitima unique and a form to pactar with

demonious spirit and aeros. Well, I'm many of the rituals

that I this I, this, I, that I followed, and

others for receiving favors without to give us to the

divinidad. Okay. Yes, How is to say, it's like to talk to a lion, shi-da-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-te. The end up to come of something that you're going to

imagineate that leon when, desprended, no-se, a-moh-a-moh-a-moh- a-moh-oh-a-moh-a-moh. So, these ceremonies are for that, halar the energy

of the spirit, of a pingo, and, uh, because when cell he's presenta, you can't start saying, you're going to be saying, you're going to say,

so, simply, they're going to appear. That's a lot, thank you, much, Josue. Thank you for to be with us.

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will be of all to do all for to all to do you. You know, we've been in Mitangry

and you know how you know how they put so there so we're so that you go and get your bletters

Ciudad of Mexico, for favor no faultes my name is Pacorias and we see us

more later. After the next. Bye-bye. You know,