EXTRA ANORMAL - Live: Secretos y Experimentos con Soldados - Revelaciones Impactantes | No Es Normal.TV ft. Gafe423

Episode Date: April 13, 2025

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with those that are are trained to not to ask questions. This night, we'll

not we'll talk about about someone that's we're a guy, we're

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to start we're going to we're going to we're for that the theme

is enemy no human okay contact with the un-known during

conflicts bellicos. We go, I'm going to give a spoiler here to the audience. And also

me. Well, you know you know you know. We're not podcast for my channel,

for the channel of the Gaffe for that they're in the media

social. And we talk about this side stories of soldiers of soldiers.

And the really you know some super, super I guess so muchissimo, but regularly when

we talk about things that have been with with them balicos, de manios, we're going to put it as in, there's something that not connect to the paranormal, that is the theme of

the magic, the brugheria. You, the people that listen this podcast, know that the people that are to offer services magicos are much with two types of persons.

the people of the and the people people of people people malas the na naña exactly so when normally that's what I practiqued you much when I grabbed

for the first time with you in Guadalajara the people normally busca, especially the people mala, methods of protection occupant the magic

and for there there's about of certain rituals that are in certain places ranchos where there

a certain plantita in laboratories no is manage certain protections

in the places for the day of people for example like you you

do you did this soldiers of the people of the militia will

to try to get to dismantle or to to get

to the protection spiritual that these people Guardianes, invocan entities,

Muertos is the classic and so can't with enemies no-humans, justly, how do you think? What do you, it's completely certain, I think the

thing of the magic, of the occultism, of different terms that we can't give to the petitions of this type of people, I think it's

something, I think very intrinsic, no, the, that this type of people just be political, yeah, of the Mauna,

of a certain form, always they're looking these services magic.

So it's very common that when you're in the forces armed, you're going to top

to times two, like two deities, no, to this type of people

they, let's, let's give something. I think in the personal,

I'm not I'm saying that is tal and but I think a reference for them,

a deity for them, I think would the Santissima MIRTE and for

there Jesus Malverde. I think are the two figures that most you're to find

so you're always there something. I think paranormal detrace there. There's a

podcast, not she told in these recentes that I want to tell you that I'm

much the attention because the parted a person that was in

service for much time and that person us mentioned some some

even to record that story that he was to dismantlear, then a, a laboratory,

and this in the part of the back there was, those terrains where he cultivated a certain plantita. When they're they're in the

night and they're going to displegars, they're, like, to, how it's called that function

when they're when they're to get to the place, when they get to every one to prepare in

their positions. Well, look, depending what it's going to what you going to do, because if you're going to

attack, then you're going to get to get certain maneuvers. That's a call it. In this case, it would be an incursion, which is an attack surpressive on on the forces of inemmigas stationed. So, yeah, I know that you dolemingo, or those envulves, for the right, or the

left, but normally, normally we always take positions to, say, tactically talking, to, to be, to be able to get a place, a lot of a house of security, in other other places. In this case, when they

do you do you do you do you they're they're they're to come

to those and they're they're found first well that everything was able to

all there was free was it's not that they've been they've

been they're and they start there some some some like

they're like they're to prepare for where they're and

you have to the person that He, he kept with other companions where they went to, while some

were in guardia, others could have then they'd then they'd looker in a little to the area of the place of the

place of operations. Exactly. And mention that there where there was still a little more of a little more of

a cultive. He said that when he started to, like to to be to to be

to the few meters had like an altar. There's there, but in the embradios.

There was a messita a little bit of the madeer of the cedro had what were like

in rastros of the vellas not incendid or vals yeah dirtiedas but

rastros that there were there was and then of some deities and like

that's kind of that's like to cause a scalof because he knows

that inconsientemate that the person that habit So that the place, was there's for

there, you know, connectes with these entities, and like he he's he's not,

ignore the altar, he was to do his base of operations and a he took

to get to get to get a while a guardia to a few meters. Passa

and the the regla I think was, I've commented about one

about one for a hour to put and he mentioned

that he was always with the Well, the arm Elista, I mean,

you know, you know, you know, you know, I mean, he says he mentioned that he's put up

in the he's done, but this form. So you're the encargo to be, to be a

endent of your moment. Exactly. And he said that his companyer, like he

was just he was he was so he was his company and he he'd be a when he

he noticed he started like, he started like, he said, he's, the time,

what happened like 10, 15 minutes and he started to make sure to do the voice and he

he gets and he said he said for an apodo and he's no reaction but he

he said a voice with the and he says you do you you're not he doesn't

he's he's back he's in guardia but still doing ruses with the

boca like like this this and he he was he's well you

don't no no no no no he Until that he He says, Oh, yeah, cabron,

you're doing? And the bato reactiona, but so, but alteratism, no? A kind of a kind of a

trance? What he says simply is, carnal, take care. There's a little in this

place. No, I know what is, but take care it's all what he said. He's,

you know, if you're has cancansed, be, you do, I go guardia, right, and sat.

And the bato and he said, I'm going to do, because I'm bad, I know if he meto

something, no see, but he was not even me present attention. And this person

and it gets a normal to get to get parado, and he starts the few minutes

to hear like the movement in the yearbas rapidly like you put you in guard

of what on who on who who can and be to hear to hear in the hervitas.

So, like, someone is going to and go to the yearb. And he

he's a little about, hey, there's a guy, hey, he, he,

he, he, he, he, he, he, he's not, when in this says, that a

woman that's completely of a black, the hair, he was,

he was somabable and he and he he's got to get a of a right, yeah,

like, like, like, like, and he he, identific, identificate,

identificate, Who are you? What is here? No, you can't be here, and he begins he'll say, and the woman, like, she re-eer, like, she burlava, like

he wasomable, and in that moment, he said, I intend to comeinar, and I don't know can't come back. It was like, was totally

paralyzed, and of a sudden, see how that woman, brink, and like, he's like, he comes to get here to the

back to, and I'm going to start, how I'm going to get the in the car, or it's

me and I'm going to my arm no I was, I was, I was,

I'm completely petrified and I'm lastimating me when when I not want

because I felt a really, I feel a back in the back, and it's

another companyer that I said, I'm sure, I'm sorry, reaction,

he's, I'm talking, he's, he's, and the bato kind of

the he's, and the trance and he kept thinking what the other, because it was like the other company. So, he repeated exactly the same. And he'll make the story, because if this, he passed to

three companions, a three. So, like, he's petrifican, and something, and they're in the place, and he begins to attack. And he said, what is that? No, what, to what? And he's commented to us, because it's that people have guardians that are, who are, who in their majority, are

mortals, who, with those who are those who are, with and are those who protect in certain zones, certain places, certain semradios. Okay, fiat you,

to me in the personal, in Sembradios, very few times me took over images. I'm going to be honest, I'm not personal, in

plantios, only a occasion, me took over an image, but not was nothing relative or referent to the Santa

Merte or Jesus Malverde. It was a Sanjudas. Okay. So, it was the only image, at least in

Sembradios, where si be things that, wow, so if you you say, you say, until where

the person human, was in cases of security. In cases of security if I took over

every thing, I'm going to put an example. In one occasion, we're

a reventar a house of security. And normally always you always always

the things or the things or the points that you are going to see they're

whether to start to start to look. And something nobio, that initially when when it's started all this

conflict against the organizations that Philippe Calderon, then you begin to generate like those tablas of where to look. And, always that we get them to cases of security, if we saw some image referent to the Santa

Mewer or a Jesus Malverde, for there we, we're going to because in occasions, in the images, as they're in are whewkas for the endro

we're talking about that they're like a bit of a minute and two meters, including.

Tameo real, no? Yeah, quasi, quasi, timeo real. So, figures

impactant as from you know, it's like, oh, God, my, why,

no? Because I know, I don't know I'm a septico, as I'm in a moment

in the podcast, I'm very credent of this and I respect much, all the

all the things. So, when I saw, a, the Santa Mort, is like, why?

So, why we have to have to have contact with this? Because always there were, we don't we'd romper the figures.

That was because it was never like we got them, and we'reopied the figures for the respect that we had to the Santisima

Morte, although not was a godator of him, or the Santa Morte, so you always

you're a way to, you know, or if you have, you try to revisit the figure, no?

See, if not see it I see, I with some type of yeso recently, that for there

they met them and then they they're in, then you know there's to make little perforations to be in

the figure. In one occasion, from the when we've talked about the day, the day of

year. The allor to the is something that's a much very, uh,

penetrant, or so, never it never, and not only in the moment, so mentally,

it's like when, when you wels a sorrillo, and you say, ah, for there's a there's a little that's a little that's a

characteristic that's, there's, there's and there's and there there's, or there people,

no, this platform, so, so, you, you're, and we saw that there was

this figure of this figure of the Santa' Morte, because the olor was a more

penetrante in this place, so so, at the to accostar the figure, because we always have this type of barridos,

we're in the part of the figure, and in the part of the figure, it was like a kind of a space of an aguero. It was like a tap. They were the same that they used them

to seller. Here, the impactant was that you were that you were the of persons. The detail, the detail is

that always these, those, those were in, those were in a state of that they're in

putrefaction they're mordidas the other you know they're they're in this organ

because for the inside they were all so they're like gelatina a species of course

I mean yeah it had much time imagine imagineate yeah

the yeah it was it was all nothing something yeah

physical on the more embarrated yeah all all

all so you you you in this type of places. So I think

it was, I don't see, if it was to give that's the liquid of the

that we've been talking to the day and put it into, I don't understand

the way to do that way. Well, is that every kind of he

offers what he consider a that could be correct for the deidad is, for

example the people that adora to the murder mention that she doesn't

that she you decide what you want to do you want to give and people like I of Adolfo Constanceo that think

that for giving to give to get to the extremism exactly and you get to get to the extremism

you're to do all the adeptos the protection etc and so is how people

and so is a thing wow incredible because it's how it's how they're

committed the in the name of the faith to a impactant It's an idea. It's a bit a very

and the people for there it's impressioned. A bit, forfa, give me a second because for here

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Thanks for to start with us. And we we're going with the next thing. We're going

we're going with a normal, but we we're going to get a little to the

okay. To the things to the things more about the

The next. Look, says, for there, proofs of control mental in

unities military. Not they're one of a casuality? No, if not, it's a

good. That's a thing that's a interesting. Like the MK Ultra? Here

there's the thing of the MK Ultra, a time a lot delicate too.

For those who think that the government of the United is good, no? And that

the CIA, the FDA, the DA are good, is something real? In what decade

was investigated? It was experimented? It was from the year 1953 to the year 173. Imagineate, this was

ledled by the CIA, the program secret to the development for the methods of control mental.

This is a thing very delicate and I'm going to try to do it going to passing

by the or the area because it's a thing that is real and of which they

are many And so, and so they're millions and millions, because we're

talking to get to think it's going to the second and we're going to the war

free? It's that's to get to happen to experiment with different substances. The

that's the other substance that for there is also mentioned that

are different that today are illicitas the hypnosis is a classic also, the

hypnosis to try that enter in trance certain elements to to be

influence about your life, over his thoughts also also the

privation sensorial and the tort ture psychologica so this this to

to be control and dominions about the person the detail is that these

tests were in universities hospitals and prisons the the detail

the grand problem of the M.K. Ultra is that it dismantled

because you have to mention that they're violating many of the people are doing. Sure, that they're

doing. But, supposedly, a part of that's the moment, like it's sort of,

but what really happens, and it has been with the project Stargate, it's like

for the public, it's a moment to continue for the under the water. For the

water. And even also we also we have here the project Artichoke that is

from 953. This project is like an brother of the MK Ultra. Very poor people have heard of this project because

this is about to obligar a person to do actos in counter of their own okay, something like the hypnosis?

Yes, of actually here what was what was that the people desvier to take

or without or without reposition or so you, for example you are with me

I'm in care of doing to do the coco wash and here for those methods

even they're not quite alterer that's also also it's

also that the people have like legunas mental you're like a

zombie and in this moment they're vulnerability for that you can't

act orders and you can't exercise practically they they're

a control mental total you you can't you an arm

you're you're an a man you're you you're going to

you questioner, not you're going to put resistance, you are moldyable to the person that you're going to control. You, what do you think of that? Well, I see that this thing is completely real. I see that for there begins the experiments during

the Second War. Yeah. Emperia, it's a experimentar, also the Nippon, is for the other side. And the United is when it took this interest, also, for start with their investigation. And it's when it's when it's this famous

experiment, no, of M.K. Ultra, for we're in that moment, we're living, or they're living the point of the war free. So I don't think the

Russians would have done this experiment when the final of the end of course they were restrictions for

the United if they were but I said they're investigating. So, how much not they

not they're encountered? Because what there are of documents disclassificated is a brutality.

Now, what we see we're still in today to not even is something I'm

I imagine until what point so it He came to the investigation and what they found out? You, in some moment,

you have you have heard of Jacobo Greenberg? Yes. Yeah, I did my task in some moment. It's what I

talked about in the podcast when you, that for me are these guides in this type of things,

me generate that inception, so yeah, we have we have done the knowledge of Grimberg. Fiatty that

I made something very interesting because Jacobo was much with these he could say abilities

extrasensorial of the people. Oh, no, Poder is, because many it's, no,

he says he says, he says, he says, he says, but he's going to be so you want to

do things incredible, like the telepathia, the communication remote, uniquely connecting your

brain your with the my, so, creating a vincal that we connect the

the view, so that they'd be things, it's me forgot, the number, but it's

like this thing ocular with the eyes Serrados, to be the color

of the things, be the color of the things, it's a thing that Jacobo was studying in a form like

very poor people, and that for so it said that was taken and reclutated by the government of

the United for the government to continue to the whole this know of and in

some moment he thought that a soldier could generate these these these

these, these dones, these abilities, and of this us talk about the project Stargate. It's a lot of the soldiers, for that you could know what he thought of the enemy, for that you stuvieres a pasto-delante, but it's something that

is a loquish, so it's a little-creable, but there's documents disclassified. Of the CIA. The CIA, that you have to this, so, that took acercements, even documents firmed by the sameissimo Jacobo Grimbe.

Exactly. Even there moments where the project was visible but

fiatel it doesn't be intelligent to deducing this the project

had another number he changed to startgate they

they make an million for that in a little

time I don't remember if it one or two months like

they said it's finalisa so so they they're just they

they're done and it's where the people say, a

very, the terminated? Or simply a part of here? Yeah,

all was under the water. Yeah, all went. So the

people that's to think to say, and then question, it's

that they have put into money. And then that's not going to be a

very, not, exactly. Exactly. They've meted a investment very

and for they're that they started just to experiment with cadets, with

soldiers, with people of the and to do the super-soldados. Something like what what happens with Marvel

and the Captain America but I've got to the reality, no? Look, yes, but that's like the point of the iceberg. More I'll say what they did

to create a super-soldier. If you're going to give a garras of Adamantium, but experiment in one. Type Wolverine, no. Tip-Wolver. Look,

saludos to Medusa that also. I'm going to appreciate the moment to invite him to send him a salute to Maricela B-86

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an abrazo. Thanks, for start with us. Cessie, I also thank you much.

Thanks for start with us. And we we're going to put to be very dense. That's,

that before this, someone put a solid universal. Very good

reference Oh, I was a movie where is a yeah, yeah. This is very

very good. I mean, so it's some experiments with solos no, but I'm put a

lot of the reality. How the Demonstra-in? How the of Monstrein? Yeah, see, when

I discovered the what of negative, yeah whatever I'm gonna and I'm

like, I'm so, you're so, you're like, this is something and we're they're

they're they're they're they're because? Why do you you think they're

that you avinted in the reality for... It's that you want to

do you want to do you don't know to the let them to the and they're to do they're

to do they're to do they do with the ridiculize for the phenomenon oveny uh

for what for that who that can think that's real not only not only

is talking of a thing he's going to get like kind of because

how you you're you going to you're a manches it's a caricature and

that's that is the strategy real behind of all

that's like the well, the reference is Jaime Mausan but that's the

feo no, that's the about this scientific how he called the

the omomomua I don't remember I see who no no

I remember but it was a person of this level about of

a professor in Harvard and another and even it's like the

same community a despite of the studies the the

study that To get to that point, it's like, no, you're ridiculize the same community scientific. So, you're going to be. You're going to see. And it's what you always, simply,

always, so forth, with the next, there, production. The experiments of the 7-3-1 of the Boconnes. Is the... Yeah, it's a very, dense,

too, that's so. So, so, ridiculize, exactly. It's so. Look, he says,

this, you, you, you know, this, the maldiction of the uniform, this is how

it's how it. There's all yeah. But, Salud, soldiers, pardon, solos, soldiers, soldiers who

falles and regress them. You know an anecdote that you can't you can't but more

later they will find also in the podcast. For the public the people of the

in-vibos not? Yes, they're in all. In all. In all. Look,

I think, being a military, we, we're, we're part of year, when you're

soldado, you know, you know, so, you know, access, much, pardon,

no video. You have access to many things that normally you're doing that you know that's because the personnel

military is because the personal military has been infiltrating, but I said a video that was was recorded during the night in

an hospital military, not to say in which but clearly it's heard a little bit and the person is

because it's not even it's public, I don't know I'm going for different situations but you say

is a boy, it's a little that's a hospital military, where it's completely vacill. So,

every thing is the soldier, and here I'd like to talk to you a little story, in my battalion, I'm

in my battalion when I was conventional. Since I came, you started stories, at the long of the time,

you start stories of the phenomenon, maybe a paranormal, no, of phantasmas. I, the first,

I was very septico. I don't create in all the phenomenon paranormal, until that

there was, it, I don't know if it was a phantasm, I don't know what we could say. Until that

not I lived, it was when I started to think I'm when I'm a story that I

heard from that I caused a call out is that in a point that was

a person to care that more in specific was the deposit of the armamento

and the deposition of the deposit of the equipment of my battalion

always always in the part of the outside a out of

the deposition, there what we called us a gariton, like a kind of a kind of a little bit of

people, with some parts to put a office to put a little your, in a case of that someone

, someone intent or or ingressar to the battalion because if has passed, that's met in the

battalion, and from and from that's the place, I've heard many times,

that in this point strategicic that we did we we did we let us we're

why. It was a venado, but it was the area of venados. In this place, it was that he was a soldier to relevar, a soldier, a man. We said, someone, yeah, he had passed a better life, he was going to relever, to the vigilante that's in this place. I'm going to be honest, to me never me took over, but if I stood in a situation in that that someone he took to, this, to have presence, or

to have this contact with this, this Cabe to clear before to tell us the story because we're going to

get in things that say, ah, at the maybe he's no I'm going to

do you say, but what I'm saying, what I'm what I can say, Paco, is that

the work not a what I'm referring to a new I'm a example, right,

this is one of the people that's there's not the he can't he can

say, you know I don't want I'm I'm going and you open the and you

say you you say you say No. In the Army, no pass so. You firm a contract

for three years and you're at the entire disposition of the Secretary of Defense National or

called a defense. When a you're to do you can't be you can't be around

of that example, an example, an an an abatation the cell of at the

is the deposit but you don't you can be able more of 15 meters

of this place. If you you you can't 16 meters, you

you can't say that abandon that place, it's a a delitue that's a prison military, and the prison military is exactly

exactly like a carcels civil. You go and you're inciarren and you enciarren years, and to start of red, they pass to that you paint to a blue. I mean, I refer to the uniform. In this, this type of delitos you can't pay them, after with 10 years of prison, 15 years of prison. So, it's the deletion of the service, or no

the service. So, the solado no plays with that. Nobody wants to go to par to the carcel. Ditcho this, and aclarando this, and, of really, they can't to be in the reglament of the militaries,

can be able to this reglament and they're going to find out. Now, so, entering with

this history, we're we're doing the night. We're at least,

me took that day to mount the service in the pluma, in the entry of

the battalion, we're together with my cabo, commandant of squadra. We're those

we're doing the service of the Guardia in the entry. It's manned personal to the

sala of bandera, to make personal to material to get to do you know, and so

they're in all the services. And normally, in the only place where there's two elements is in the

guardian prevention. Always there is where you're going to find two elements, which is the entry to

where the civiles could have a certain or a other, before before to get to

the pluma always you're a loharm that's a guardia in prevention that is

where the person is where the person their activities of cedias, a service, the Guard in Prevention. So, all the personnel just was just being

my cabo, I, of vigilantes in the entry, when, of, we know, a companyer, that was practically a new ingress, in the battalion. Me refer to in the battalion, because just he was out of the prison military, it was, he vented, like four, five years, encarceled,

for motives of abandoning service. So, no, I think that had caught in the same situation where a cabalero of the zodiacone two times in the same attack. No, I think it was done with that intention after after to know five years of carcels,

and that's because he said a pardon that was signed every year, every year, where you say to the Secretary of the Defense National,

I'm sorry, I've committed an error and if the secretary you authorize the pardon, until one year can't do you, he took on five years.

So, even as he, he's made, retomando the history, we looked at my Cabeo, and I went to this solado, went I camin'nando. So, novedat? Ah, chica. Volteed my Cable, he said,

You what? And the solado, so, par, firmes. And, my cabo, I'm, I'm giving my service and novedat. How you gave your service, without? See, the longa, that in that moment was the G3, he gave the

large, and my furniture to the vigilante that me made to. Oh, ching. I don't to send to nobody. And the only was

that put the kind of it's that's he got a old

and I'm he said he gave a my large and the formitura

because he was out of other service. So, they're like the

G3. We're going to mark it is the large. In the military

there are there much so there's some problems like don't have a idea

where comes people to give manotep to the

people when they get fierros that is very common that people can't

hurter that type of objects so, like always never you inclinas a lot of

normal, you're going to the thing to us robes and me and say hey,

me, me say to me Cable, be with the solado and check a venados orita

he's up the person and the cabo to make the guard in prevention and

to be a bit this during the night to be two, let's get to

When we got him, Paco, the G3 was re-cargated in the garitone, and the furniture, that is where the put in the cargators, they're at one side of the G3. So, yeah, they did the interrogatorial, my cabo, la is the interrogatorial to this soldier, that was the granadero. What happened? No, because I was that, I was a point that's very obscure,

he said, to me, I was to be a vigilante, and, of a sudden, there was a soldier who, Well, I don't know I know. It was logical that he not knew the person because he was going to the

prison military and he was a battleion of so he said, is that I don't know I know that element and he goes, because

it's a practice very common to be able to sustain that that element for that you get to get to get to

press me to press me your G3 and your fornitor yeah I'm going I go I'm yeah, he's to come to

and at least let me put him your to try to present his casco you, you'll present your and he's

going to eat. It's a very common. So, it's a little, it was a point that

was a time of the time of the moment, but they said the soldier phantasm. Because there

people said, is that I saw that a bird of olive. It was a reference for us to that the green

olivo, it was the uniform that was used. And you said, well, who had who'd try

bird of the quality. So, at least, to me me took the, not directly, but if someone who stood in that moment, to be able to be able to pass a better

life, no? No, I'd say, what my suitoris, also, of this soldier, imagine it's just, you know, and other time, for a, for a normal, this, he was to go ahead. Imagine it. Five years. Librarra, like, to say, no, sir, the, sir, secretary, is that me gave a phantasm, and, for so abandoning my service,

who's, who can't do you know, manches. For there, also we'll also ask us production because I don't not we've

asked things very very fere and then the community us asked things a little incoomodas

look at here's the first question you said you've heard you've heard a

oldado doing brujeria look I've I've had some because this

is very real so you you can you can't you at least

in my battalion had much presence, my battalion has a lot of presence of people of guerrero,

people of different states. Because normally the Secretary of Defense National had, I know if in the actuality

still having the same policy, but there are many states. Some those references, for example,

those who come in the city of Mexico, or state of Mexico, or, for example, Jalisco,

if you can't cause a in a battalion that's a local, me refer to local to be the

same state. But, but for the grand majority, and not say to not they don't

permit in that causes alt in that battalion. You have to emigrar to other state to be able to cause a alter. So, you're going to people of all type. Between that, in some moment, I know see people of guerrero. Because it was a person that had a companyers

that were of Katemako, well, they're not even methoes in the theme of the brujeria. Really, even if it was like, no, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're doing this type of things, that is the

brujeria, and others that were very creyent to the Santa Morty. Okay,

they're going, they're they're so they do they're this, at least

this, this comorada that had a kind of a kind of a special that was he was,

he was, he had certain petitions, he had certain petitions, he had been a lot, but there

had of all, from the grander of the santa to those were, they were,

those crevients of, the, the palomay, how, the palomayombe. So, you know,

you know, there were much santaero there. It's a practice very common in the santaia.

What interesting. Fiatte, the people might be to think that they may think that the militia,

but there we can find also that type of situations. For there you can help,

for favor with other other question. It's that really is common, no, because the

The military is a small society within a society more grand, which is the society civil and the society military. That's a question is very interesting, says for

here, what is the most important that has lived? I imagine I, I mean, I, I, that has a problem,

obviously, your view, the murder, no, or no, no, no, I don't know, who know, I think,

the, the, the person that, well, was, so, so,

it's going to be impactant for much mal that has generated that person always

that's maybe in the moment no. In the moment it's more the more

the more than you. But when you have that you think to think to

think what you have happened it's when you the 20

but I think the most difficult is to see a

person to learn that is for me is the most

complicated because the the something a camaraderia. It's a word that

encirrna many things because to be in the exercate Mexican, you know good friends

amistades that are in occasions for all the life and the union is very different is very

different in the sense maybe of what what you do you do you know what you have the

companyer of your peloton with the you pass months all the time

and there are occasions in where you're in the places in the cerro, that we're doing in the serrower, that's our necessities

and you have five elements to one of you, sent those, making their and they're talking their

and they're being being with you. It's a union very different, you know, a good,

a vincal. A link- that is very difficult to forget, to do you do the personal, to the day

of today to I, I've been with many people, now, imagineate that you

You're with a companyer who just got to talk about that's a little, that's a lot of their child,

or his things of that style, and the life is so ephemera, no? Of a repent,

you're just talking with him and sometimes just only a millesima of second for

that all and the impactant and the most is to be a person with that

minutes before you had been a conversation or days before you did a chat like

what you talked that you can be in, I think this was for members, me

perhaps, the story of this element that's that's living those companions, the impactant is all.

The story is all, but I think what I generated much impact, at least in that occasion,

was to be a, a man, of 19, a more, 21 years, for the much, that was

relatively very young, and at final of the time, no, he has to be a

man that is made for the war, and that in the leech of death when

he's agonizing and he kept in minutes of the only that he's doing is to

talk to talk to the mother, he's talking about your life you can't forgets.

It's something, it's something that the most difficult that me had to live is that

a friend that a life and that we can't do it. That's too, no,

that's true, that a colleague to you are suplicating for his mother, for his mother,

we're, we're to do we're to do we're practically, in moments so strong that we're

vulnerable. No, man, I'm chis, no, I, I'm so so I'm like a bad for a

man, man. If I'm sullen pegged much this type of stories, because the life human

has a price, no. It's a price and independently of all, and over all,

if it's about a friend, a colleague, a good and how difficult to do to be to

be to be to be very honest, when I'm when I'm when I'm less, in the

active, it was a person with a character, maybe, that not you don't

you're not you're very serrated, you're very hermetic in your life, no, do you,

do you know, you're because, because, because, you know, they're, many,

they're, they're, it's a different, no, it's being, someone that's

maybe to get, to get, to the life civil when you're when you

when I took in the the army so me do know

psychologically maybe the the might be the even the even

about the I want to you know because you're to make a position of a man

of a maybe they know we we're not we're not we're so it is a

point in that I'm a little you're not you're you're but I think it's

more human because you know the needs maybe a person that lives

in a in a people that's refundied in the sierra, that his school is five hours, your primar, and the

little is going to five hours to get to his school. So, you know, it's very sensible in some things, but it's hard and frio in others. What I see, you can say that today, I've got a person very shillana,

I mean, I'm sorry, I mean, sometimes we're talking, sometimes I'm talking, I'm certain things of passages of my life, and today, I mean, it's when I've been able to, I've had that pertur to, my my spouse me

said, uh, Gaffecito, no, no, you know, don't you want to get a lot,

so I'm, the first the first time that I'm a carcagey. I'mpe to read me because my

spouse me made, and I think that was a new, that no I'm that I'm that I'm a

carcacacacacac to read with that force and there I think that's there's a feeling also,

so some things that are the thing that you're beautiful, that you do you

yeah, expresser that form that you do you your emotions are able to your man. Erman,

we're going because yeah, for there some, some, some, some,

some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some,

for a way, with the next, Tim, Pokemon. Oh, the pelotone

phantasm. That story, a bit, fift me, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm investigating

a chat GPT, And he'll send a... Ha ha ha ha. A lot of a chat. But the chat GPT me sugary

this theme. And I started for there a little bit of you. And it and I don't see if you have heard of

them, but it's like simply they're in a mission. And of the firsts, like they

start to have a perotone as just just like so it of soldiers that are

coming and they're coming and they're you can to talk, let's you can

like to say, and not they don't they're and

they're supposed to because it's like a signal of a murder,

no, symbolisa that if you see to this group, this

is like they're like they they're and desacacably it's even

even taken a good because symbolize that it is a next to

be a face to be a person and a person and a

legend There are many forums where people, as like you, that in their moment, they were in service

military, they're doing this, this support to the nation, they're about this

perotone. And there a person that had written, that in a mission, desgracially

that had to be with a thing of the manosos, they were in a part,

not I can say the state, so if I don't mention, they were there,

and I And he was like a companion, that was like, I don't a company, he was a friend, and in

that moment, the friend he said, he said, he was, that he was, that was, that was,

that was in a hour, but that saw, they were, they were in service, and they were

to pass, uh, a, and that he was to say that they were, who were,

they were, not he said, so, so, that that same soldier, he's, he's

disvited. So, the companyer to the, the, to the, he says,

I don't know if it's it's all the same, but one of my my own of my good,

he, he, you, how you do you, you know, I think an anecdote that I've

talked in some moment in my can't talk it in your space, in

some point, what was, like, in 2000, well, no, no,

no, but we're a soldier conventional I don't move to I'm going

to be to be to be to be to be a per event that's a

city yeah almost pegated to halisco is very

pegated to michey and we know that we know there

colinda in the city was a pretty very very amable

I think if could could and if had the opportunity about

that was that would would be where where I would like to pass my last few

days, you know, so I'm so I'm so it's a time, we get to this

municipal, we've got to operations of high impact, in that's in this then Michigan,

well, that's one of the places of the place, and we're getting a destacement

where then, well, there was a person to what I refer to this,

the, the destacement is an installation. They're in the or three months

doormen there when are operations of the impact, two months, two minutes, depending

how to order the mando, he gets a battalion, after a month and two months, three months,

get a battleon and does the relive, we call a place, we get a let, we

make, we do you, an braus of a microphone and another. It's like to give

this place to receive to the soldiers that are there. When we get to the entry

and reception of what that there in this, in this, in this in this, in this destacament, that was in the pure part, well, for a series central of this municipal, when

it was done, I think, since we got, all the soldiers, that were of my battalion, we're about, we're about

40 elements. We've been, section and media. A total, us called the, the attention, something,

that was in, the bank of arms. The bank of arms is a place where you're going to to leave, well, the ordnance

to all the arms and they're with a kind of, and you're in a type haulah.

Something that called the question, I think of all the was that there, existe a photographia

of a soldier. It was very young, it would be like, 10, 20 years,

if you get, behind the cameras, to the show, the curious was

to the one side of that he, there was, another photographia of the

day that they They did their sepelio, because, unfortunately, there they they're going to in an operation there in the state of Michoacan.

What is what what is, they put in their, as well, he was stucamentown in that place, there they're they're putting the soldiers,

a friend, and every soldier, or every battalion that had in some moment to do the re-levo after months, entregabas

that photographia. Okay, look, and that that photographia, well, of our our battalion, but we

just a one of a offrenda. And there's them, then the, then the, those are,

they're in the, but if one wants, but then we're going to do. The detail is that in some moment,

was his photographia and there two cigarrillo, one of one of the photo of the photography.

And there was a moment in the that of this, I was going going to, I was

going to the detackament and I went to a companion who was sitting at a

one side of the detackament he's like refectioning and I'm talking about divagando he's

maybe in the thing I'm a foco he said a foco he goes what you know what's no no

well nothing carnal you bring you bring you trys always always it's

like if you see a person disanimated you always you're to get

a a little interrogation to know there's there there's things

maybe maybe a his contestation. He said, is that if I say I'm going to read. When me

said, it's like, why me would I'm going to say, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm going to say,

me, I'm going to say, no, is that you you're going to do you're going to do you? And you're going to

say to someone, no, no, no I'm going to say to say I'm not I'm my word of so, so

I'm going to play with this. Okay. And so his contestation was the

question, is is that what in the madrugada of the day of the day

of the day he was very he was very much he was a he was a sergeant who was the commandant

his peloton that was ladysim castrosisim that sargent if he was he was he was

he was not he was he was done to grillo gallo we say we're

because from the until he's until he will be occulted the

or or until San Pedro back the we're we're so then

he said what so, no, well, is that he had a lot of his own and he said his sergeant,

of that the pelon would say, he would be a dormit, but yeah no he would be, I'm sure that I don't

want it, and I don't know, the other because yeah we got this, between all the others, we're

that's that there's where there's the photographia of the company that had perished and more

because we had been bellator, we'd preendium we'd they'd be like the, like, like the, like, those pasones of

sombras. And, and I remember that me said this element, is that he had a lot of that I did

a pacto. And I said, ah, c, man. A'er, let me, he'll take a place.

Yeah, me and I'm, let me sit and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, like, a, I'm,

he said, I said, I said, I said, I'm a mortito, that me said, that they're, that if I,

that if I, that if I, I'd, and I'd to give a cigar. And what you did? I kept

dormit my brother. And then, then, I said, or I heard that someone

he said, shh, I'm my eyes, and I'm a man, it's like if someone

me would have started. And what you say he? I'm, I'm came to

the pelon. I'm don't mams, you know, I'm sure, man, is that he did a pact with

with a mortito. You have to give a cigar? Well, be to give his cigar. But if if it's

real, then I'd payle his cigar. Sure, no. Erman, there's a

moment, Paco, in the that's, the palon, the sergeant, a occasion. Yeah,

he had passed much time. I mean, yeah, had been a year, a week, and it

and he gets always in the morning or in the night, or in the night, always will

be a one of the the night is the the night is the Igor. But it was at the afternoon

and he said the pelon, the pelon vendia cigars sweltos. It's always going to be someone who

do you have a minute he's the question, says the pelon. Because the mortito who's is

full of cigars. And all us kept so they're so they're my moment of

brother, mano. I said I'm I'm let you're let's talk because we

we're we're part of this camaraderia I said, what What's the focus and he's going to

start a whole the story. So, between broma and broma, he's the pelon. No, chinges,

FOCO. Yeah, he's been, he's, he's been to be able to get to get to but hour of

cancer. So, it's a kind of a ha, ha, but it's inegable that was

that was so many of the cigars. So, how many, favors, favors, no,

he did you, So, yeah, despite and talking that story with other people,

I'd like to know your opinion, Paco, and they're and if not was a soldier,

and simply took the form of for that you were you were doing something, plus,

well, I've always said, I've always I'm going to put a little religious,

but I said the Bible no, for his actions, you know, if the intention

of this entity that spirit, in a principle is practically attack or simply desvibir to someone, it's, you know, but if only is there,

like, a good onda and you ask you a favor, and it's a problem, I've talked with the paleros, for example, and to the mortgit- them, the alcohol and the tobacco.

I, like, they're super, they super-encanta, and it's a form in how really in the Palomonte, or the Palomayombe, are the forms

of say, oh, I'm paro, no, and you do, this, I do you do a ron, you do this, I don't, I go, there's

people who, yeah, we're about, but like if a favor-sittos as simple, it's like, oh,

let me this, and you do a tobacco to do this. And really it's incredible because the Murtor respond,

I, so, so, it's, and is, and if, is a, a form

to pay a favor, to something that's a little bit. But is surprising because the people

who do you say, with so they say with a security, if they're my morto. Yes,

my morto is this and so all the those who do you know, the paleros who are

those who have this ability so you want to be so that you know, that they're

to give us. Wow. It's a thing a lot quite, bastante, bastante,

we're going to look at the question they've even even

us. We'll, for for you know, the question, he says, thanks, production. What do you

think of the existence of agencies incargated to manage a condition unormals? Oh,

what? What's a question that's complicated? Look, at least here in Mexico,

not to say, because you know I'm not I'm to guard certain

things, but I know I've heard here in Mexico about the existence of

some of some of these agencies. I know I know the most known that

not is of here of Mexico, but are the Homs of Negro, no? Okay, is that I imagine that's referred to the agencies

of intelligence that study in these questions, that in this case would be very similar to the question of the question

for the investigation for normal, Saludos, I, Antonio Samudio. He's the that has the

agency for there. Okay, a salute to Samudio. He has the idea, but I think the

question is more in globalat. I think it was more of government. So, so, then I've heard I honestly that there's an agency that has to be

that it's a governmental or that's parallel to that study this type of of, of,

of, other, or paranormal, and however, if it exists on the other no-human, no,

no, yeah, we've heard of the famous of the Negro, that are that

are that are, these cases, and that they're, that the fact, that, the,

that the time the information is a below classification that is a thing very delicate also. I've got a

invite to have a little bit of a rato that I've been in the channel. You know is that my very far

is the thing paranormal for there me me aborded a time about about this

style but that if there's a team special to go and not being the first is the

first that I heard I've been I've heard to hear this government that's

in charge of investigate things paranormal. But it was so it's like very superficial because I go

this is that this is that not not not really in my thing, but me told that in the

airport, in some moment they've encountered vestiges of brujeria or so

that in the airport international of the city of there there was even a

thing, there's a lot of so that there's a so there's when when things they're like

the order or not not vent it for the radio it's all in private and that's equipment

but that's in the airport. But, but no it was a thing that I go to go to you go to pass Paquito,

for that's so on this this thing. It's going to be good. But we're there's

some questions. There's many questions. D'clock says Claudia De La Rosa. Saludos to the

great team of production. Ah, thanks, Claudia, taking a great, a brother,

a service, and saloos there part of the production. That in this moment, there, like four

people behind behind the in vivo, much thanks. We're going with the

next time, for favor. For favor, this, production. For there, he says,

oh, yeah, we're getting to the thing, Firtter, Hermo. Nemesis.

Nemesis. I mean, this is a name, Project Nemesis. It's a thing,

look, even they're just they're the color of, the, of the front,

here, they just we've put rojo. The Project Nemesis is a thing that

I've mentioned, and just on the this project much people who play video games

it's I think just in my head I said in my head exactly it's exactly it's it's not

but it comes of a primate 100% yeah let's tell me that story Paco

look the time to create a captain America is is certain

is real no see if you in but just this comes

from the second the second world so the second world and this is a

thing a very this is a experiment with the n a gion

z and s so so with this type of experiments in my

my my my head is when we when we're

when we we're when we of the bigotito chistrozo. There's a much problem with the problem. There's a problem. Yeah,

there's a lot of. So, there's a thing very very delicate. And here they're in the chaplain Maloy.

It's a very good. That's a reference. Yes, yes, yes. Very good in the

reference. Thank you. The Chapin Malo. Look, see, there was a very

very important because there was much experimentation, there were much forms to care to care

the genetic of the human, this always with the ambition of

that a human had a more resistance a temperature at temperatures

extremes that not a rapid that could could be more even that

had a rhythm cardiac more acerated that this that

could could move more more rapid agility of

so always the intention was that the person human

simply augment to his ability to do not

like obviously we obviously most a captain America

that is a super soldier that can to be able to gopests,

grand, no. So, really no. But, so, augmenting simply the abilities of the human.

Major resistance, that could adorn, less, without that affecte. And during these

intents, in the Union Sovietica, they've attempted to do this type

of experiments, getting to commit to things that are, men, are men, are

someament unhumanas. Between this, I want mention first the substances that

were to stimulate to be a human, and if they're that I'm because I'm notations and it's

important because with this substances was they're to make the resistance and over the state

of alert that the people were in this state vigil at 100 that not

caller in in suey in canstance but that all the time

they're practically despirtos and alert this was so it was

with for here I have substances that were to make to the soldiers to be able to do that

during periods prolonged, and this they were even the effect of the secondaries were

totally prejudiciales not they didn't even they were they did we do we do we

know we important that this the soldier that's the soldier and he's they're

like a method of experimentation here occupant and here I have the number substances that

I can't mention it, is that if I met in brocas and I say, I'm going to say, but this is they're practically to try to try,

that's, is that I'm going to say the word, I'll say quickly, those drogap to, for this impact

in the, in the persons. I know, you, you, what you think you? Well, look,

an experiment that we, we know, that's happened and it occurred, and it happened

during the second the second And this is, this is, it's, it's a documented, this is 100% real, no fake. Uh, you know, uh, you know, to the soldiers that, that's, that's, that's,

the, the, of the, of the, of the, the, of the, of the, of the, N.A. and the, you know, and the , you know, is that they, a, well, let's say, a product in that then, that's, that so, you know, that's

super soldados? Okay. You know, what product was that? It was a product that today,

the organizations at the level world, and, talking here in Mexico, they're selling to the government,

to the government, no, to the citizens of the United. It's a material crystalos.

You know what product we're talking? Yeah. To the soldiers, during the second

world, to the soldiers to them were this product to putensia all

these the sort of how to start alert and because this was 100 real.

It's experimented in soldiers and yeah that they were that this was this state

so it started, so it started in pharmacies for that the civil had access

more in specific I think it was Pfizer the who created this

product but the investigations and the studies and the studies that during this

conflict Demonstro that she potentiable because it was much to be that used

during the invasion to the first of September of the 39 but but I

think of the 42 it was prohibio that he was this medication

because before he called a medicament to the soldiers and they

had to make a because they percat because they

percat on some addictions and it term it

But at mediano plaza, you know, you're not a soldier operative because you were a

malissimo. So, so it's experimented in soldiers during the second. That's the question.

They were doing the experiments, without the repercussion that there in the soldiers

after the also, we also we're not the Union Sovietica where these

documents that are during the war the war free, us that the Union

Sovietica, and here I have the data, he went to do a couple with the objective. This is more

extreme. I'll do a little pause. Cessie Balejos is the second that you have you

got to put that's the product that was commercialized in that time. Oh, and you know

they found. Well, this that you mentioned no, it's more more than, this

is this is a in a thing in a thing, fickation. Yeah

Raspalo the fiction for the pastillas of Chiquitol. Because this that they'd do they're

not doing with substances or so yeah no it was over a body of the human

these these informes and here I'm they're they're that the

intention was super soldiers in an intent to cross humans

with primates this this this is a so it's a pinche locura

because they just they want to develop the soldiers with more force that

had this force that we've reflected in certain primates, resistance superior

and about the agility to make the of these two races. This

sounds totally loquissimo but you have discovered that these and these

intents of the Union Sovietica where it were they were they were

with children with some Gemelos, Herman, is a thing. Of the

actually, is a very important because during the second, the chaplain malo, uh,

he had a interest in, in creating a race totally area, and it's experimented just with gemelos,

but not experimented with the same people, but with the same, but then this is the

curious, Paco, I mean, I mean, it's a mean, I'm made this story,

because today we're just we don't even we're not we're not we're not a, which is this famous lobo,

that as a like it's like it's like it, not it's, no, it's, no, it's, no, it's not, but there's,

there's a little, but there's a little, the species that you're going to revivir because not it is, but in this

case, no you can't keep the the end of the ringlorn that they're just, they're just,

but this is with what is permitted. Now, imagineate, with what we don't know we

that are treating with the people there were an experiment of the government of the gringos

of some of some women that they were in Africa they were in Africa they were they were

they're they're they're they're they're a modification in the which they

started to get gemelos or trichos and then it's all it's all but how the

government of the United termina experimenting with the of the people.

And this is real. Investigin'n't and I think it was in a public in specific of Africa. No, I remember where

was. I mean, I did that note is very gancho because they were they were to make

vitamins. It was a thing more for, for a thing of a health, for vitaminars

and this and really they were they were and they're there. There's a case

different where where they were, a substance a active, I mean,

so, something that is a complete a lotcura because so I'm the woman

as a the product, so it's something unhuman, 100%. For that when we

about the experiments of the second is a thing that is a derrise

in the sense that it is a a bad a bad a man a manira

something that's a sombroso incredible. but imagine to try to make sure the race

of a primate with a human with a catat America practically is a thing and that's

what we have known now what exactly if we're we're living a moment of a

moment of desextinion that is what is what we're not we're we're trying that

you know you know to find certain certain logos that give

a a humanity a sometimes have to have to have

to methods that are not of the most accepted for the same humanity.

So who know how they're they're not found out of this part of that that's part of

that they begin to dis-extinging certain animals because it's that comes the mammut

that comes the dodo that comes the the demon of Tasmania I think that's called

that's that's that would that they could be clonar for what they're

investigating the the other, simply is... Modificing. Do you? To do. Do you? To do a modification

genetic. It's, it's dangerous. I don't know where the person human yet, again,

like in the second world, another way, is not going to be a God. Other way they're doing the superiority

of the human, modificing the reality of that form. And, and to do and understand

that today, I go, yeah, many animals exingered yeah, but there's like a

order, because there's a chain that's how reincorporate an animal that's a not exist to

a new thing, where their not is the environment, yeah no is the same, it's the same or 12,000

years. But it's the Mammut. Exactly. Siberia yeah no is what was the environment

for that so. So, those, they're they're trying to suffer or those

try to cause a or what can happen? So, really is it's is just

to play to give to the God and who know the person has shown this don't have

this don't of the self-destruction and that always is present a lot of things that

they're in risk always. I think a revelation very because I think we

we're that we're that's part of the agenda political or of the order

you know you know that's you know I think it's more because you've got

tantos pardon gastas tantos millions in making a desextinction of an animal that even even has the entorno

adequate for to get to when you could invester that money or gastar that in cut to these species

that are for extinguers like a coyote I don't remember where is this coyote but you're you're going to you're going to

you're like simply is what we've just what we've mentioned of Monstersing is like you're like

you're a provadita of what it's being for that we'll we'll

we'll we're to make a idea of what see to be in

a future no 100 and today so about about

the development that this is a term a more

more recent more recent in comparison with what to

talk about that he's in the war in the second world

because here we we we we talk technology

a and I would sound another other fantastic

but I don't know maybe, of a relock that you a moment where you have a adrenaline in the

body, you know, in certain moments for a major clarity, major a more for a

power, a new, a relock, so like, literal, the equipment of technology advanced,

that you do you can't carry, that's tactical and that you can't help, it's,

it's, that China it has so, so, so, those, those elements

have these artifacts that with that with what are, I go, so it's

about the annuels, or it's about the collars that they do you do and they're an advantage

over the imagineate that in a moment you have a little bit more you know. Yeah,

we've got in Neuraling for part of Elon Musk I think it would be that technology that they

have that they're just that just just to pass to the side side because much of the

technology that today we need we need we first before the Army of the

United and yeah create their version more for the civil.

But I think Neuralin is only the pointita of the iceberg what in reality yeah

experimented with humans. And I think that's not I'm going

to say but I think in the actuality what I don't this is

permitted but what better than with soldiers that not question no question

ordines to me puts much much vaccines and oh this vaccine

that is no don't don't no you I think the great majority of

of these of the soldiers they're they're they're they're not you know that you know

that you're because the exercise no you're the the army in that it's like

you don't you don't ask it's a order and give the order to

get to get to get to so that it's the first that I'm the first

that I'm not much not much no it in really not much but

this I remember I'm In some moment, my Cato Commandant of Squadra, me said a story, a little bit fancioso, but today, I mean, I meant some of time, no,

in the Army. And it's like, it's like it's like it. It's like it. I never see an official of the Army that's enfermara. Jamas. I saw a official of the Aircical Enfirm. Could have soldiers with temperature,

with mal-stair stomacal, and the other, but never an official. And I remember that in In some moment, my cabo, commandant of squadro, I had very little time, not had any even the year, me he said, I one once I heard by part of an

official that when the cadets are going to graduate of the heroic college military, before to graduate, they're putting a vaccine, that this vaccine, what he does that they never,

they're never, I'm saying, I'm, you're, but after the time, I mean, after many years, and you're talking

more than 10 years that me talked about that I said, it's logic never seen, at least in my time

of service, never be a official and I do not that way in day, so they were that they were

to be a not they were they were they were they were for that they're for that their officials

that they cost them and they're not a money, then you don't they're to get to

get to the well, I, I'm so I'm some point, and some moment

me it's my co-o, I never I don't listen more than with him

then it's quite that's so it's so it's so it's so it's incredible

he's like it's really and it's kind of the form in that these people resisting more

that are more that's that's that's that's that's it's it's

but I think you I think you can't I'm want to a so I'm

Melvin oh yeah thank thank you thank you the Gaffel the big show

what that, that's that's a that's a it's a one of a story that normally

always always that we're yeah, it's like it has a normal, it's a story very

long that's a long time that you could be but it's a very good story paranormal. Paranormal.

Okay, he's going to get a pending for the second part because a,

a, a, my socio, to me say, hey, tell the the big show time.

He said he said, he said, he said, Hey, they'll tell the big show,

eh? So, that's, that's, that's, that's, so, thank you.

Thank you. An abraso. We, we're going to some questions that they made to get to the gaffe

because the last thing has been with what you said, and that was the only that I can

say. We're going to the question. Dice, what has been the experience

within of the exhirtable when you was active that most you mark well,

I think you you know, when you took to to be to a a friend that's he was in this

plan, of this world, and that was one of the things more more than the thing I'm mark, of the

other things I'm mark for the caras. We're they're on the next

for the because there's saying, you know, did you did you did you

do you know, in reality no, no, no, no, I'm sculted

of a person of some director of security public. Yes. First, first,

first, it was a, a 02. It was the first time is that I wascolta, a little time after a company memberer in the TIRRs POMETIEDAW,

regressive and I regress being a scolta of a political, pardon, of a commisario, and after a political, but no, of the famous,

I, not I've got the opportunity to, to escort a someone, in some moment if they were to be offered

to one, but, but in that, in that then, and still today today, so he may

or so, it's associated much to a certain organizations, I'll say, it was to Alfredo Libas

me offered to be a scolta of this sir, then I, no, no I took the

opportunity, I'll accept the decline the offerta. I don't a doubt I'm not, I'm

normally, I mean, you know, you know, you know, you know, like the Gaffe,

know, you know, you're in the forces speciales, that's in that little

niche that very many people can't to get and that you did you're

so you did you know, for your lot of experiences that all the time you can't

and the stories that you've lived has been there's been someone that's a person traditional

that you say, Gaffe, I know that you're doing to do very well, but I do

pay much more because you do, too, you Gaffe stay in me. Fiatty

that no I've received a offer so of that I'm very honest and it's not in negable

to say I've had been so I've taken into that that's that's maybe

between me say I'm sure I'm especially you know to say yeah

to tell you tell you about a question so I have been those those

haloncitos but no never me have that that

this type of things I think as you know you

know so we talked we that in the face of

that person but are people are people you

know you What happens of those who you know you're going to you're going to you're going to

ask you let's hear of yeah in the actuality what you live is you know you know you know about

and it's in negable to say that in some point I've had been contact with characters

that are and that when they've asked in one occasion me asked me asked oh yeah

what you what you think you what you know about something and I

know I've learned to maintain me margin. No, I just I give my opinion, always, like,

guardandol the respect to all. I know what what I mean is problems in that sense. So, so, you know,

and a friend me says, you know, I'm saying, you know, they're, I think you, is the

subrino of tal. It's like, my, mother, advise me, when there's people.

God, more, more than me, more than more than, the creator of content, cast,

you know, they're a, the he was a operator of forces special.

It's is like the YouTuber that about certain things. But offer

to offer me to work for you, no. Oh, yeah, more respect in the comments,

wait, you're saying, oh, yeah, that the Gaffe mo'ssster riffle, that no

manche, more respect, family. That's the Pogger Rogger, don't put in that.

Now, you change the question. What would would say, or what would say, a famous,

a famous, a famous, and you say, oh, yeah, yeah, I,

I do the contract of security private, to offer you, I don't know, put it in a quantity, more, you put, what you want to win, do you, do you? Look, I think in

this, at this altitude, Paco, no passaria. No passaria. No passaria, to that me said, I'm, I mean, I'm, I know, my security, no, I think

pass. I think, if get in some moment, that offerta would, I want to talk about my organization. and that you tear is peste to the others. I think that would be that for what in some moment could ask me,

not for deistrar, I think not for being a chief of scolta. I think they're, I think what in the actuality we have as a channel that's being a medium to get to many people and that today

you know, you know, you know, even though presidents, be in your channel, because I'm yesterday that's a yeah, I'm getting to my house were the primarito that I did. Oh, yeah? And, yeah,

I took to be that in one of my canals, this, I'm the, the visit

of a, of a political for there very, very, so I, I don't know

that he was a fan of the podcast, but there, it's, I don't know, no,

I don't want to come to, but, but, but I consume much the podcast extraanormal,

and I'm doing, we're doing on, in, in, who's on people,

so, so this is a thing, this is a content, we can't have

what canals see in your content, are canals small or are many, so canals so I think

this type of organizations know the kind of the answer and I think that they're the platform

to get to more people in a instead of having to give me, no, I'm saying a person

100. Look, there's a question that they're making that's they'd Ah, okay, to re-encarnar in

someone that no know they, even they'll know how it, only to know about his life, famous, maestro,

instructor, et cetera. Wow, how good question. No, I never had analyzed. Figgatt, me aghast to be back

to Carlos Rangel, but, no, I don't see. It's that we say, no, Vida public,

we know, uh, Vida, not we know, so it's what did, for example, with Johnny Dip,

uh, his matrimony, and all this, many times we see what who who knows

the people who my life I'm very I'm very very very very very

thank you my family my work my job so I'm much so I

know I know I don't I know I know I don't no no I see

I think maybe maybe maybe maybe something not of a person

not of a person famous but have had been the opportunity to

know who helped to construct the pyramids. Oh, to have that

know of to say, oh, to be it, not interpret it, but never was a

carroachet with a fire and was a lot lot of and those palacios that were

stations specials. Spacial military. I think I would like to be those

eyes of someone that's in the past. Those, those people who

took the opportunity to how they were there. You know, there you've seen

that in the Pyramides of Guisa for that's about that... They're in these constructions

of the back, no? Exactly. This is like of cylinders that you connect to another cube and

what's like... What's true? It's true. Who is... Who knows? Who is certain? Who is? In the work?

In an opera gray? In order? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. In the chat mentioning the same... But so... What on with that? I don't know.

I'm cause a doubt but much people are like like very, very, this,

euphoric, but I don't see, I'm not it's related to a event that I'm that I'm

that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm not accepted that I'm so, but I

see, you know, if it's that's very long, the story, to say I'm honest

to the very, very resumida to the could be to be to be a 40 minutes

a hour, very resumied. Okay, okay, well, is that the

one part. It's like, five minutes. Exactly. The one of the, are six. At the eight with two, we're going to have to have three million likes

and no, it's not for the second part. So, so we're going to. So, five minutes just just about.

So, so we're going the next question, to the five with two short and no, no more

to get for the second part. It's, blah, it's, uh, he says, a person

a person famous and the, uh, yeah, you'd I would like interview

Yeah, those, that's how difficult question, eh, revienten the button

of the like, yeah, I'm just because I'm like to like, oh, yeah, I'm

pressionandle no, so, yeah, well, me, an excellent question,

I think that in the personal, Paquito, um, I, I'm, I'd

inclinary to ask, if, if you had that opportunity, I'd ask them

to interview to Osi Cardenas Guillen. Okay. He was the leader that actually

he has been from the prison in the States and was envieded again

to Mexico but he was the leader of the organization that has a that has a some of an

ocean so I think we know to what we're we're talking but he in some

moment was these initiators of something that after after he became in a

kind of a new an offer demand for elements or soldiers or soldos of operations

special because he was the he was the first gaffes and these first gaffes that were 20 elements

had been to a bit of a brazo this I don't say the other word but then they're

being at the first at the guardia personal of Ossiel and then they're they're getting

with great extensions of territory and they know as those of the

ultimate letter. So, the funders of that were 20 forces

special. But there many things, but they're that were deserters

and they're to have a patria. But I think it was more

the way that were used as a money and they they're

doing their to who they they're done. So, so this

this man is the person is the is the only that has what in reality

happened. And I would be a little more of this thing. What in really

happened. It's part of the history of the forces specials for you or not.

It's part of then. If I would be an opportunity, I'd like to

interview. There's a response for who has been the question. Much thanks.

We're going with the last time the night and you're two minutes and it's

has subied very little so. So, I know, brother, that if you're going to

share the theme of the big show in the last of the I mean a lot of a lot of

but, but no, that the family decide. That they have the decision, the ultimate decision.

Let us for favor with the last theme. Ked on the last time.

What we talked about us, no, there's, the vaccine experimental or soldiers

used as as like conegios of this indians. This sounds very cruel It's very

It's very It's real And there's real And there's I'm a data I'm here Because I mean

Many people This is This is The second Worldial And Mm-mm The most

Reciente It was Here I'm In 2020 2020 2020

I can't I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm 2020, China, when was the

thing of the new new infirmat, we're going to put it as, they started, you see, that all the potences and countries started to work in the vaccine, in the famous antidote, and in China, so this, yeah, yeah, it's notice,

you can't busk, China agarro to militares, and as like you, see? Or tal day, presentate, you don't ask, you, no questions, you don't

know nothing, Pao, Pao, Pao, and they're with this

thing to apply to the soldiers. Incluso this much before that was

permitted yeah the experimentation with human. So, does it

when when it is when it's going to go to protocol, no,

so it's in a animal, is in this phase where it's like it, like,

it's, like, go, it's, what what happened in China is that

they were, before that's that's that's the last

all the all the protocols those protocols those they're all to the

we're we're we're in the animal and the man rapid

so yeah no like yeah no that there was a

and a virus of a respros common was administered

to many many members of the people before

before to complete all the phase in say

all and this I so it's very de-locos, very of the

second world and it's still occurring and it happened just a few years.

The soldiers is a piece desechable for all the sound so it's a feo

but that is the real of one example I'm here in Mexico and it

occurred just in my house in the house of the forces

speciales more in specific in the camp 37B in Temamatlas

all of Mexico when this this new that's a lot of

in the 2020 in the body of forces speciales in the part of we know we

we're called because it's the body of forces speciales and the center of the center

where is where are all the battalions there is an alojion or a battalion

that is completely vacio is waiting to the duels for so what is the

sixth battalion of infanteria is their installation but not because the sixth, in the

actuality, is in Newgallel Sonora and not have tried the battalion of Nogales. So, so, this battalion

that still is still today, abandoned. It was used like an hospital for persons.

Okay. They were for people that were people that were not from this disease, but not were

families of militares, no, they were persons that not had a place, a cup in

some hospital general and they were to get to this place. So, if they're going to,

at the end of the soldiers were those who had to start attending, and they were specialists in

the health, not were not anything, and they were nothing, and this occurred. I think,

I think, the soldado is something that is a little and you know, for experience,

I'll say, to all the people to those people that are listening in these

moments, when I was in the active, in many occasions, Paco, as you know

you have an idea in much occasions we've we're we're

we're we're in this substance crystallos that they mentioned a moment

when they they're to the soldiers and we're we've we've got to

we've we've got we're just three days in what was the year to get to

get to PGR depending what we could we know the detail of

this Paco so It has been to be with what you're talking. Well, if it had something to

be that we get about, assurabes, pernotable in the place and we did it, what we did

do you, and we did this, we destroyed us the uniforms. Because the the odor when it's

this substance is, you can you can't go to not you're exaggerating.

Now you imagineate you in that you were impregnated to this color a chemical, and, of actually, there

investigations in that the, in those co-iners of these organizations had a, um, this, a life estimated of

six years, for the much cooking, because no, they'd and they'd not of the equipment

necessary, as they could be in this series of breaking bat, they, they, they,

but they're, now, imagineate, the soldiers, we're, we're, we're, and there, al-a-

their, they'd be, they're in his uniform, and then there, there, there's,

there in the uniform, not just be the number that has, because you have like a register of your

uniform, and then the part the depository that they were to destroy that uniform. But it was a uniform

of the substance or the chemico was to be you to know, so today there there are

people who might have contraided the cancer for this type of of chemics because you

could give a cancer of the so much they'd importable some pieces

replasable, we're desechable. It's a very feo, but it's the reality of the man, and is

that's a thing that it's, I mean, it's, it's still managing in different countries where those

they're occupant to go to, but yeah, I want to say, I don't see the big show. No, no,

no, no, not we're, we're not, we're, we're, we're just, we're quite

connected, and no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, How did you have passed? How you're doing it's passing? Very good, Paco. The really, me la paste very well in this direct.

Me la paste very well in these days. I've learned much things new. I think the most important that me get to this collaboration is

to know that the queso Oaxaca is called a quesio. So, me that's why thank you for the invitation. Thanks to all

your audience that you're seeing in this moment and to all your team of your team of the time. Muchism thank you.

It was an honor for us for us the fact that you not said and it's that is that you don't ask us,

we're asking, oh, why don't you don't you try don't try to? It's like, ah, yeah, well, you managees

an agenda that's an agenda that's rompient in all your projects and, and of the really,

I thank you for doing the space, visit us here in our Tires in our studios. Much

people are very happy. Before to go, for forward, record us the socials.

We're we're doing our platforms of video and in platforms of our podcast

called Zone of War that's my content of our main in the actuality and we're

this content called the car occulta that is where not not they talk things

topics, more they talk things things that me like the thing

paranormal that in this case we're to get a Paquito Paras in the

second part and it is a content more so I'm

thank you thank you thank thank you thank you Delante of your audience. You're a lot of your audience. And you know,

and you know, I'm very much to see how, at least are people who I consider my friends, are those who are the real, right

are they're positioned as like the best podcaster of Mexico. And I go, I be a Pepe, I be a Paco, I go to Fepo,

and I'm my friends, and I see the quality of people that are all of you, and for something in this

place. Much of Thank you. I'm really I get to my kept without words. Much

thanks for all the beautiful, for the words, for the space, for the time. Of that, family, go and, for

favor, subscribe also to also, to the project here to my bro, the Gaffe for that you and also,

you know, the excellent that's doing in the social with those projects, his podcasts. Family,

will be a second part, yeah, the gaffe, more a little bit. Well, yeah,

it's a third part, no? Tercera part, yeah, it's a third part because

it's the podcast that we grab us because we did stories of soldiers of

you look with that podcast I'm so much two hours of podcast telling history

after history and then and then and then in the channel and Spotify

Family I want to a great brother another thank you and to

thank you to all the podcast and I want to a heart a brazo

much many blessings to and we we're we'll next

Saturday with in vivo of no is normal.com. TV. My name is Pacorias and we'll see in the next. Until the next. Until the next. Until the next.

Bye-bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Hey. But I said, wait, I said, I said, I said,

me said that I'm doing a time, but there we're doing time. Banningse. No, but I'm pretty much. God,

me those bendiga. Those want me much. And, for nothing, firmes and fervent. Never's never,

that's all right. Thank you, our man. Family, we'll be. Now, so, for favor.

Thank you, much. Thank you. Much. Thank you. You know,