EXTRA ANORMAL - Llamadas del más allá 02 Octubre, desde la casa de los 400 años con Antonio Zamudio

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

Llamadas del más allá desde la casa de los 400 años con Antonio Zamudio

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and successes. Dive in with me to unearth entrepreneurial gems, learn from our experiences, and get educated. What do, family? How are you? Seam, bienvenidos, a on a yearcules of callas, my name is Pacuarias, and I'm very content to be, well, with all of you. of anemone family, I want to say that I'm very content because I have an invitation

a person that's a person that's in a place in a place and the fact the fact of being a

that not is our studio conventional so he's that we're we're in this transmission. The day of

today of me accompany Antonio Samudio. How is Antonio? Thank you as a man, Paco, a salute to all

the people that are being and listening. It's an honor, you know, as always, but the most important is

that now you've got to visit the Cueva of the paranormal. Uff. Amigo?

The fact how complicated is to transmit here, you know, a disculpa because I know that

we're very much, but is very complicated. Why, the case the case of

the 400 years is, I'm what you think, four years of history, four years of

phantasmas, four cycles of four years of tragedies, and just where we're going normally,

usually we're not transmitties, precisely have passed things very cruenters, this place. This place

is plagued of legends and stories, but over all there are places with much activity. When we

do we're doing this is one of the places where it's more propitious to capture some image,

some phenomenon strange for the normal. Of the part of the history of the house is that he perteneceo to

the Dominicos. The order of the Dominicos in those then was practically in the

edification of the cathedral metropolitan of the city of Mexico. We are

a media quadra approximately a quarter and a quarter and the cathedral

and for end the story devian when when was edified

this magnanim architecture, was also part of these edifications. It's and it corresponds

Paco, that this edification pertenecio a badia, practically a species like of

the Congregation of the Dominicos, but these Dominicos have a story more croenta

still. The Dominic were Inquisitors. Okay. In Mexico there was in Mexico, there was

many of the context, we're going to put a context. Much of the

Histories anthropological not they're well, so notoriously because we we're a

very religious clearly evidently also are things that they're but here in Mexico

before to say let us ohie mandalo to the tortura or

mandator to the pardon for the pardon for the pardon to the

mandalo to be they're to cruel cruel yes these

they they're they're Dormelos. Yes, that was the point. So, then you're in a house where four cycles

have phantasmas spirit, with a monon of psychosensations, sentiments, and all the other then so, imagine it's, if it's

really, the, the transmission the same of the cellular, it's, no, me will

let me be to happen, he'll be a signer here the telephone. Muchissimo. This canion, well,

the muros are of spessores incanigated grand, is easy, a meter of spesor

of each imagineens. Because, evidently the construction was data of those then it's

also, we're talking to Tenochteland, so we're talking about the center historic, all the

excavations that not have realized totally the archaeology Mexican, but, for example,

there are cases here al-ledanas that you you're you're you're you're

you only I'll say a thing, friend, this format of, well,

we'll explain, we'll show evidences, we'll answer questions, and about we hear of the audience.

So, it's a format where the people more than to tell us a story of terror, we can't

a vivency that have had been or that are living and that, and that in my

studio in Tuxtepet, Oaxaca, has provoked that when We're seeing evidences Firtes,

over all the Merecoles past, that we showed us a evidence of one of the last exorcisms

of Gabriel Amor. Passed things badronas. There's a evidence that passed the Mervol

past where there's a cross and in live, it's being in a stant. So,

pass on things when we're we're going that kind of the relatos vivences

fertes or we things and to and to what I go. That's

pass in a studio of a studio of a we're in a house we have

we have four hundred years how many sessions huiha has done

that's summale that that people has desvvived how history

how and the last the times that we have the

stories enbruchated that this is the place where this is the place

where this October this 9 of October during the gravations have

heard infinite of things? It's that imagine in their cases if we're not

we're doing we're doing to do you when we're when we're talking about stories emulgated he said

Paco Paco we're going to do a lot where they've been occured funestos

and in a moment Paco said no but over how you think you know

no so because they fluctuate in energies imagine if you do do you do you

do you do Imagine it in a place where they're impregnated. I can't say something for the people that you're not

in this moment in these instances, no dudes that more of a dominic not they're seeing.

Oof. Yeah, we're going to give a scalofrio in when you start to say this. Yeah,

we're going to give a idea, a little idea. In this door where you're going to get you, in the

one of our participants capted to one of the Dominicos. Is the photo that you sent a

Jassiel? It's a photo that Invia, Hasiel, right, yeah, when you have that you know, you can't have to rest up to the screen? Just to be the evidence to the person, for favor? If you have listed, it's incredible.

A little. A bit, you know, you can't, just go. Just to the rest of the panel. For that you have a idea. The exercise is it's about of the screen. There is there is in the screen. Perfect.

So, you're seeing an individual that's doing an exercise. Uh-huh. For example, Paco, I was a rata. I asked, how many times? Imagineate, the sessions Uiha, I have more

than three years, my friend here, making doing investigation and experimentation with tour insolito.

One of the experimentators is this is this is this man in a photographia in a front of a spejo

this is this experimentation is called Momentum and Momentum is it is just you say,

you say, you say the entity spiritual, manifestate to a form of image I want to

see, I'm very very, so fortitism yeah and if they're in

If you take a photo, is the photo, is the the left the right, the right? To the right. Exactly.

Vending it, of you, exactly. At the front, in where is the mark of this point that

you're in a dominoico with the hands like. It's a badronciss me that evidence,

man. It's an big that is something important very much. I have a doubt.

It's a word that this type of these type of not tidiedas are falseas. What is it's

this level. A good question. Nitida for us is that is that is a figure, there's a difference between what is

the body, the tronco, there's a in vestigure, is that's the indomentary that's the and the form

in how he is he's putting his hands to the center. Like, as if were a dominic,

even if they could be rassus of lends. Oh, for us that is an appearance of

the classification of the classification of phenomena. But that not is nitido for concept

of is to say, I'm going to a photo and you have to find out. Nitidea absolute is, for example, there are many videos out of over,

many photographs. Much is fake, no? Your manito, they're like if you do you know, we're like this year, and we're

pretty, I'm going to define a little the concept of the apparition. If it's translucida, yes, correspond to a

type of classificatoria. You know certain elements that are specific, as what is what are doing a photographia,

that is that you see, but it's so nitido. It's like transparent. Exactly. Translucid.

Transparen't. And there is where the concept even in global the role of the phantasmas. So, the, because they

can be like so, because they could have been across, but not those are false.

I'd say, if it's physical, false. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. So, what we're, the evidence that we've had been in this place,

that's the house of the 400 years, I'll the episodes of the podcast Histories Embrujada one of the podcasts

that, for what I saw many people are much, much people, is waiting, because just I want to want to tell

that Samudio, I've been I've been behind the cameras, I'm in this podcast I don't know the host is Antonio Samudio

I've been and what I just have done so I've seen, there there are times where I think wow,

because the brujeria as one of the phrases of this podcast in their form more cruel. It's incredible.

Aurita, in a minute, in this moment, I'd like to send out of your community, too people, who can you

let's give some of the words. If you want to send you to send out of all the people.

There's a community also that there's always in fervor. Salus to all the community, our mano,

thanks. Thanks. For example, he's here Lourdes. Garcia, what emotion I want

I'm just I'm although it's a community of Samuel also of Paco. Thank you, thank you, Osvaldo, Barragan,

that we've got to don't know, thanks for your donation, says, Equip, they have to see the

light and the light and so the light violeta. It's a light displasandos to the

right, put it. It's obvious to be it. Okay, we'll try we're trying to

we're just we're doing because we're not we're in the studio, but, yes,

Isabelle Pino-Fore is the person all the morning, me said, there a entity and the

people do in a video that I filmed, standing in the studio when it's a moment very much, but there's a

momentousal, but there's a momentaneous, the evidence are momentanies, so, so this. Right,

so, yeah, yeah, thank you, Alapak, Saludus, ah, here,

here is for you, says, Laura Parra, sir Samudio, is an honor to hear thank you,

thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, and Saludos, from Sopopan for the two

of Brenda Arias. Ah, shinga. Saludos, saludos. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Say, again, said,

I want to cry. He said, yeah's extra- to be them and I've got to me. Yeah, we're time.

Fienes, it's something we've done many podcasts together. And right we've ferned a

partipation, but because we're trying about history about. All the thing is in history.

The fact, the fact, the fact, the be in this scenario. It's incredible,

You know, this ambientation and a great production of my great-simopacurias and Peele

and Pepe incredible brother, Felicides to all. We're going to start right.

The number I'm going to explain how is the dynamica in this moment, will appear a number

in the number. This number, before that I want to say, no,

it's mark no marken. It's have to adder to get to WhatsApp. And yeah

that you want to give a message, or the messages that want there's people who send me

many messages. The more you want you the more you know the more probably you know, in this

message there are three things. Your name of where we're they're talking and the

title of your story. For example Juan Peres Mexico City of Mexico my story a entity

to help my abelita So, so only mandam the telephone pardon the message

for WhatsApp here I've been they're getting and the whole of my

There's a person that me envio 6,865 messages in this moment. Oh, yeah, it's like when I'm when I do the other

platform in the of the Chinese that I'm saying put it's your dedito and there are people that's like like so

it's the tap tap. You know, we're starting we're of this person that's more than two thousand

messages, mango? I mean we've done this we've got to 10 minutes? Yes, no,

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There's a question. Amiga. There's good, good, good, thanks. Hello,

with who I have the good. With you. Pardon? Genevite. Hello, how you're just

a good to say to you know Paco Arias here in company of the senior Antonio Samudio

Saludos Janerit thanks for being Thank you your story Well,

well it's that as like as you the message well when I was when I was

when I started to pass many things before when I had

that but But, since, before, things and when, well, I started to feel very bad, and me got to get a

doctor. And, well, I, I'm interned, I, I'm, I'm interna.

Okay. And, and before to fallece, after that after that, well,

see, I, saw a very great in the window of the room, where I

had in the isolated. Yeah. There, a, and I said, my mom, Well, well, yeah fallacy.

And then I could, I could continue listening how my mom was, that I cried, that he'd help her for that, well, if, I mean,

they said my mom, that's, that's, so I don't, I remember, I'm really, I'm really, I'm very nervous. No,

no, don't you don't you, don't you, well, if they put those things, like, like,

like, they're, those that are, those that are, those that are, those, Uh-huh, exactly. Uh-huh, that, and, well, I don't

I think they were just three, and no I regressed. Wow. And then, I put it on the injection. Okay. Well, me put you, a injection.

Uh-huh. I, well, I used to, no, it's that no, it's that, I was, I said, I was still listening. But, then, I said my mom, that I was, I mean, I was not So, I was.

So, no, I was in this moment, Signs Vitales? Generi, you can't ask a question rapidism? No. In those

moments you know, not only of these things of the RCP but also you got to

do something? Is it that's external to that's external to that? Yes, I'm getting to get to

what's, well, well, I said, and I, and I was in, it was the name

the name so you can't do you? You can't repeat? Yes, pardon for you I'm sorry.

No, no, I'll? Me, I'll? Yes, there we're We're going? Well, then I still

listening that and then I heard that my mom, then I was like a, it was like a, I

thought that was a dream, because of the actually, I had a much hungry. Okay.

He had a much hungry. But when, in the dream, I, I,

I, two things that were to get to, like in a cajita.

I mean, they were Like, like, in a Scalera But Like in a escalera And, uh-huh How describe you Those people,

So, Humanas, No-Umanas Angelicales, demoniacos Well, it's that They were like, I said to my mom Well, I was I was a little

10 years I said to my mom That were I was an angelitos Because I, because I was Begied vestiges of black

But, but No, I'm Looked the car Okay Bestidos of Blank Uh, no Uh-huh, and me

They'd get up And even up, then there were There was someone There was a guy There was always And in that And in that

I said my mom Well, I don't I was, I So, no regressa Then, then I was, I'm checking various doctors,

and yeah me said, well, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said to my mom

that if I put in the Injection Yeah And, and, well, accepted

because it was a riskosos they said, And, yeah me put it

and I regressed but, I mean to get back to get to get to where was

that thing and so my mom is very so that that's that I'm so,

I said that if I was if I could get there then I could

go to I'm so wow that what's so yeah

you Well, yeah, I regrece, but, and from there, then, well, they started to pass many things. I mean, I was, I saw, I saw, be in my house, many things, since I was out of the doctor. No, me were given to interned so, because, well, I was,

internaut, but, oh, I mean, I saw, in my room, I saw, a little bit of a little bit. Beydia, really? And, yeah, I'd have to have dreams very very very

very very they were and I would get to the and I'm

very very so also. I have two two two

and a one he I was to pass for my house okay

I was that I was going for all the house and I went

and I think that was the only that was I was my mom also

was very very very and, well, my brother to pass all the

wall of all the past pastes going to and rye wow, there's there's

you know. You think you that's that you did you, in this time

that you did you was a mother, something, something, it, like, it's

like it's active, like, it's opened the third o'clock did you

did you did you're more perceptible to all this? Well, I know

the fact but I think that is or no I don't know, because, well, I started to pass

many things raras, because, I was, I was, in my court, in my bathroom, in my baby, I

saw a, a woman with two little little a bellita. The major part of the person, this,

with the experience of the death. Exactly. So, so it's classified. Uh-huh.

So you're a lot of, um, if they're this notion of, feel and be be a bit more

sensible anti-phenomenes extraions. So, for this you're asking about this action of revivite

not? Right, you know, we're talking to these those characters that were to be a

species of another person more more great, more high, you in this sense,

I can ask a rapidissimo Jenerit, you you're saying, my mom is Catholic

you, you professes the same religion or no? Well, no. Okay.

That is a good point. Yes, because no, there's a sense. No, there's a sesgo. Exactly. No, there's this thing of, ah, I'm, I'm, and I'm, and I'm, you know,

I was, you know, I was, you know, I'm saying, I'm asking, this, because usually when it's a discernment of experiences

of the death, simply he's going to plan to the, to the, he's experimented if he has a Catholicism

very fervient. Exactly. It's repending much the theme of your thing of your

great that's interesting yeah that's really good thank you thank you your message

your messages because were almost three thousand messages thank you thank you many

thank you thank you thank you I wanted I'm a good a thank for who

for who for who for who he said he said he said he said well he

he helped he made to make the well he he was my fan too

I see all those videos and that. And, well, if you can't send him a saludo, he's called Sebastian. It's a crack. Sebastian, you man a fort of a brother of the family.

Of part of the whole team, of the good Antonio Samudio. Saludo, Sebas. Very well. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Likewise. Good night. Good night. Amidgette that I was the time of the experiences nearer to the murder, because

relatively the, the persons that have taken this experience always is this they're at a point of

or if they're in for seconds and at when they're a little something so they're

they're in phantasmas they're in spiritus they're they're we're we're just

we're we used to record a case of patty fissure uh you

Cement. I saw the family postrad in a cillon. Yeah, they've said that he

had been said, yeah, all the context of the reality of the that's

the idea. When the reviving in the senior, evidently RCP and all

the functions medica, regressa but no regress a only. Regress with a

little. So, the little was in that plan? In the plan

spiritual was the mom of Patty Fisher. Uh-huh. And, and all, so, all they're saying

the same. The same, we know, we've seen that new, Antonio. We're not we've grew up with

that need. My mom had the rationality of having that that was yeah. It's

when he goes to the death, he says that a woman, when she was having all

the thing of the rush of your family and all this, the acceptation, she,

they're they're they're they're an absopruto to her despirta and try

in the man a man a is that the plan spiritual a spirit of a nina reso with the

man who that's incredible the case oh yeah that's that's that in si this type

of experiences me impacted much because many many times if we see we've

we've the people that people who have seen to have a God, to

a a saint or those who are creient, followers of the Santa Morde,

they're in that's depending on your credence but when there are people that they're not having

this sesgo of creencers and they they're saying that they experimented something. That's what

important of the case of Jedribe things that happened in experiences of the death or so

if there if there is fiel testimony of her. Evidentiment all what they can

say what they can say what they're not but if she she she she

mori five minutes is much ap Wow. It's a lot of No, no. It's, I meanica in five minutes.

No, no. I mean, I see, I've heard of those that are of seconds, five seconds, 10 seconds, 20 seconds, but five minutes.

It's more, for a idea, the catalepsy is a formality, that is this type of symptoms. The crises are like if

you're more clinically. Yes. They're taking signals vitalis and no there are different to the technology.

But in that then we're talking in the book Victorian, For that they interrable to the people. But there were three minutes.

So, three minutes and the medical, yeah, he's not more. Five minutes, imagineate. Yeah,

it's been to the orio. No, well, it's that, yeah, yeah, well, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm going to a audience also, and the audience, too, because there,

before, before there, before, before, we, we, The first three questions

because I would like I'd go we'd we'd we're going to we're a realtyment

I'm a fanatic, a passionate, oh yeah yeah, it's what I know about Paco,

yeah you're not you can't get back Papa yeah you're you know

you're not you you're not you're well you're right you're right

we're right let's let's let's let's please what you

say what you can't okay there we we're You know, how could I invoke a duende?

A bit, before anything, I want to say something. They're much careful with what they're doing doing.

There are people who have a person who have been a way, and are used because

from many people have had been this asacement. Yeah, there was a process

difficult to say, oh, I'm doing duenders, I'm, I'm, no,

I know, of any kind of these and you yeah it's this

fortality mental or spiritual. But if no, you've never has been an

as an acacement and you can you can you say my friend, I'm saying,

I'll be to be to be to me know, and the most part of the people who

know we know us know, no you can't do you know what's okay?

Yeah, so I'm understand yeah of Jeno to let's I mean,

it's that is a dweende not is a spirit. No, no is a spirit. A dwind de based in the etymology of the concept. Dweend is a dwego-de-of-the-cass. It's a that coexisted with the

human. It's an elemental of the naturalness. Exactly. It's a lot. Oh, look, with that. Because of the repent, it's just to think, the people that are spirits. I remember the case of Hilo-Tepeg, I don't know if you know, that's one in Veracruz. Yeah, sure, that is. Well, but

I don't know the case that we'll know what I'm going to talk about it. No, no, no, I know. Yeah, I know. I'm just I'm a quarter of a case, I can't talk about. So, I'm in

Hylotepeg. I'm a program of radio with my great-simmy- big-ponderated a friend that I think a man, my

man, my Tio is more great than you. So, then this is called Leopold Laskano. So, we're doing a good

Dalev. He's a guy, he's an investigator also of the phenomenon of the paranormal in, in, uh,

Veracruce. in Hilo-tepec. No, no, it's in Cordova. Cordoba, Brax. Cordoba, Veracruz. But one of a bit of a program of radio. And a lot of people about the radio,

Canyon, oh,gan, you know, they're going to be the dween of the chaneke that has been the sir,

no-se-called, I don't remember how he pegged to the sir, that was a of those that recollecta coffee.

Yes, that zone is cafeteria. The zone cafeteria. Sure. Yeah, they were to

all chaneke that has a trape in a Haula of Perico. Wow. That's impossible, no? Herman. I mean, where...

I mean, I... So, where... I mean, I'm... So, where... I mean, I'm... Medio. So, I'm... So, I mean, I'm...

A'er. A bit... A bit... A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. I'm... Like, I'm... Like, here, for... Why, no.

They're... They're six y'amadas. And I said, too. No, man. Until, they're... Yeah. So... Yeah. So... Yes, yeah.

Well, so did the million Paco, all the world. And I'm,

I'm in all the testimoniales, I don't see old old. It's all agorugated.

It's a lot of things. It's says, but it's your dialecto.

And, you know, so, it's a start to get to the mind, he,

he, he, Well, the Yamala that sort of effect on us was, oh, again, yeah, said Jaime Mausanne that he was to go to the other day. Okay. And I was when I said, how?

Well, well, I'm not? Ching, no, I'm just, I'm here, no? Yeah, so, that's what, too. Yeah, so, that was the point, because Mausanne was going to go. But what was your expectative? Evidently incredible, and I said, like, Marcarrier.

And then, then, and then a hoolerner. Well, there no, well, there no, us have. We got us. We got to Chilotepeg who knows. Gilotepec is like

a pass on the nubes. It's a paradise. Yeah, a beautiful. A promosissimo. A mountainas

incredible and all, but for no, that's the count long. Hego the catelero until the

three of the morning. Wow. We're getting we're at at the 10 of the morning,

no man. A travesia that is what you do the investigation, no? And, and coming

for those cackawats because no, there was to eat to eat. But all the testimonials, Paco, yeah, it's, well, we're looking at the cabana. And then then they summa more to the testimonial where we've

a, one, a haula of Perico. Okay. And there you know, the group of Aleph and agents of the film. Filmando? Oh, yeah, I don't know, no, no, if I see, listen, it, listen. They're not, how do you? I'm, I'm just out of the caboia. Well, we're still out of the cabna. Well,

we're stooping us to get us to the cabin. Okay. I said, no, here we're going to... Yeah, sure. Total, for not this is the most can't say, and for you see in the context, no, it will be a plaza

much, and yet the cafeteria, he met. There were a lot of people, Paco. They were like 200 autos waiting to the

and more because we're going to, we're going, well, then says the cafeteria, I go, oh, is that

I don't want to me molesten, I, you, I don't want to talk to this. There's, I just me they're saying,

me, me, he said, the cafeteria, I, because? Well, they say I have a dwind How will,

how are, how to have a little so I'm going, so on air, fiatte, how they're,

like it's an air, yeah, so you those, you know, you'll get to an air,

there's a there's, there's what I'm going to coffee, my cabo was cargated, he's been

on the nervous the cabo cario, clo, I'm, I'm, and what I go,

agrando, the chanek. No, man. Dice, that he he saw a a cheneke on his

caballo I'm doing a guard to your aguardient is clear the alcohol then he

he had a sack of coffee and he's he said I said I said I said

I said I don't he did so I'm in the same my cabo my cabo

even even was even even he said he I did he I did it

I did I did I'm if I took to him so I then

then then so If you've, if you've got to contact, yes, it's a young like, some sort of 60 centimeters, well proportionated, so, no is an enano.

But, just, no more, and then-masto that said, and it was, and he came to talk to say, that he said,

it's that the effect telephono disposed, no? But all the reason of the thing, the fact of

say that's an air is a form impressionate to describe a reality. Could be even even that not your

imagination, because the vented, the jar of the car of the coffee. Sure. Even

I said When he Avento The sack So, but that Cere not He said,

like the concept of the physical to the physical Avento the castal of coffee and he

he prega the But the Cheneke still on the Cajon of So, I know what happened

how she moved No, so then so it's to get to the cabo he has when it

disappears Okay I see you I see Cheeneques evidently but in this

zone of cafeteria I'm the only person that I've seen. Wow. The theme of the duendes, I'm, I mean, I'm, I go, I'm from, I'm, I mean, I'm, I mean, I'm very close to

Veracruz. I'm very close to and there's always about in many things. But, always me has been very much the attention because, well, it's where is where it's where

me always has been a thing very fascinating. Let's go to the question, Hasil, for favor? Well, there's a message to you make a message to

A Who would like that? Ah, yeah, with that I'm for here, God, I'll see,

because, as I don't have a monitor, but here I'm this, this, it's, question,

Arroba, Ernesto 34, 12. He's, to who you'd more an exorcism

or liberation to a a man, a, a, an evangelical protestant. Ooh.

To, a bit, to, a very, to, a very, I've said,

Who who expulsed the demon no is the person taking in account

the context of the person that professed in a faith judo-christian within

this world or this context who who has the demonio

not is the person is the person is an instrument of God with the

with the authority that he will be to do this ritual exorcism. I recently

I've talked with the Sassarote of Jose Jesus Agilard Claiming a salute and he said is that the people think and that's said for him that he has done in more of 40 years, I said two exorcisms

he has talked and said the people think that only a sacerote exorcist what I can do. The reality is that whatever could be doing if has this covertura the coverture of God, the a fortaleza mental, not

it's like to say, I do you do, I mean, it's like to say, you do, I mean, you do it, so, you know, so, you could be able to do you get to do. So, so, you know, I think you're with certain requests or certain things, you can't even

independently if it's, in my context, Christian or Catholic. So, about faith. In the faith, the 100%. Are you, so on this, are men of faith. I see more

guided to, evidently, who, who created the exorcism are the Catholic, are the Catholic, Roman. And are who make an exercise of the same. It can be liberation in an evangelical, like in a

Mormon, like what you want, like what you want, because even not is a regla specific of Catholicism. But, in fact, if you talk about exorcism, is exclusive of Catholicism. That's very good

that question, but there we intend to answer to, because there's that there's no, I can't say, the Christian or the Catholic, so it's that, it's that are many factors to define the response, the context, many, many things. So, not is like,

go to this. Yeah, and apart, not is something like, it's as far as we do, so, there's other partying. Of course, there's a point,

we're going to show an evidence. Okay. The evidence of the child of the rojo. Okay. I'll give the

context, and right Hasiel we'll put the evidence. In what consists? There's a person, this chico, this chico,

that we're going to see right in the entire he intended to do a clean

in your house evidently we've been about a lot of the exorcism Liberation

to be able to do some practice not is how I do it because

I'm occurred in a video of a video of TikTok that

ultimately there many there many people recommend that you

do you don't not you don't the preparation that you need to

so so In my house pass things. I'm going to do a little.

And during this limpia that was doing his house, he's a deal with the

back. They'd and he had like a rañas in the spada. We're going to

let us let us to put it for that we can't see. There's the chico

like with this my back my back my back he's my my spal

that there. There's a there. No, get out, get out, get out. I mean, all of your dad. All right. Because, I mean, even, he even

he just, he was concerned, he was just-concentro, and he was going to be awes, right? Because there are those arraignones that were formed. Of, actually, they were fresh. So, even, even

they were, like, four, no? Like, four, exactly. And there, and there, there's a, there, there, there are,

not some, superficial, so, so, they were, like, so, they were, like, what,

what do you? Hello, my friend I'm to be I'm honestly when I'm

when they're when they're when they're this type of eclips I'm very very very

very septical because we'd we're we're the context of the because

he's doing a a limpe with an umberio this this thing that's a

thing that and he and the and he he's over what he did he he did

and so if we're we're we're like we're two seconds that's

that he would be so so I'd but even this is incredible is that evidentemate

is a reason why they dole in the child and not are superficiales my okay

now I now I think that the context is real to be a very

suppose not I'm saying that the video is real we we're we're real

this this can get to get to see okay platicen us what can

what can what can't is something is something is something That is where I dood. To be, I don't let me do, I don't know, I'm going to do it, because I need this context

that I've said, I'm going to be a investigator paranormal. For any person that's there for, even for the propios, it could be very different. Because they've lived. What I see me care clear is that if it was confabulado, then they met him four rascuos not too superficials. It's, I know, if there was a molestia direct, even the proper arraignment.

What can happen to a phenomenon that is called Poltergeis. Poltergeis not only is a movement of objects without, but also entities that are conscientious of their state. It's that are in space and time and time and those entities during the process

of trying to evolutionar, supposedly it may be able to beacunds. In some moment, if, for example, casas at the 400 years, if we're talking with one of these spirits Inquisitors Imagine if we're

We're trying A cross A representation of the Inquisition Or a better A bit more than a Brouca. Tremendor So what is what you're

What's doing? An action of provocation Exactly And, And, we've been Sented Ashted Bruchas Yeah,

Here, in fact I'm sitting Is the place Where are the Immitators of Samudio Histories in Bruchas 9th of October Nouveau

Estre Strel No, so they can't Pard We can't Let's see. We can't. Let's say

what is like a great reason to ask you for a great result to look here. For

favor? Uh-huh. It's Okay, it's a okay, it's a senior, here we're in this moment

another person that's the way is trying to clean their house, but here's great because

we're not welcome in our home anymore. how you start to get the things like to be prepared to get you there's a lot there's something there's a way out of what she's what she'll put in

a little bit this is very rare in this point it's like confronting and trying but that's not but that's not what you can't what the other

the potraga is if you see the other you see the other the oil The oil. So, so, they're

three objects. Three objects. One was a one, a table of these

of these to picker, and at final a oil. We're to analyze the context

of the because it can't repeat. You can't repeat, yes, let me

not respect space and time when they're not they're not they're not

they're what they're not they're not they're not they're not, it's just

if they're you can't move to a device cellular that almost at the point of 400 grams, a cellular.

A little bit of a little bit, even even even even gets to get, not a cotorrear but it's at the 400 and a cachogram. Yeah, so it's almost at

a half kilo. No? So imagine if a oh yeah, a trapo, what it is when the entity

spiritual you ask to say, is saying with this I do I do, more than this I make

present for that I'm that I'm can move to a mobile, a sillion. or something.

There's a polter gas that we've done a where they're a sofa we're talking about like a sofa so we're just

like a so far as it's like it's sat down like a imagine the force that's

the force so I mean the person if you move a object like a oya we're not

we're gonna we're gonna in the poltergars of the narvarte that you know there's that we do so we're

so very very very far cabron the interphone no the interfone the

desodorant levitant, of all that. I'll tell a anecdote when when we to investigate

to the first nights, I got all the coachios of all the other sides of his house.

All the cuchillas those put in a kind of a bagger and they let me

say to the investigator that I had that Cesar me said and because we say

he's going way, he's moving objects. Imagineate that. Sure.

Great risk. Totally. So, so if he liit a a desondonant,

no it, hevented, hevitted. He has absolute manipulation over the matter. Sure.

For suppose that you could get the object. For example, the she was apart. If you

went to the place? It's because what you're doing that you can't you can't

be lastimated? You'll let's say I'm like my investigator, I kick the chitels if you

get the person who is a general and evident we're evident we're obviously we're getting

Johnny Cinger. No, going to pass evidences of the Padre Gaverey Amor, for favor. That was

that was the last year. And is that we're we're doing here, here is going to

happen to happen things very heavy. So, here I feel that you

want to say, here we're here we don't know, I mean, you know, we've seen

right with the first photography, but the rumors strange that were during the

during the recordings of stories embruchated so there many many there are

different evidences. It's is that an evidence that is that you move a

object, it's a primary and the secondary would be that would be that they're like a

appearance but that they're one between me honestly. Okay. In this moment

Hassel, we're to put it on the phone is because I'm going to mark

to someone more. We'll let's let's other two evidences for

after after the first of the first because there two evidences

because I I gole, that I'm the last two Ultimates, you know, yeah know, the family, you know,

the family, you know, that the other people that are the other people, we're going to the next because then

we want to let me say, we're going to a person that says, a entity that's made in my

house when my brother and we came on the Mervoves of 25 of September, viewing

on the Macea. Okay. We're to mark to see what is what says, no,

me does your name, Let's talk about. Let's see. Good. Good. Is that good? Hello.

Hello. Good. Good night. Hello. Good nights. Hello. Hello. It's been called from

my friend Samudio. With who I'm the good. With you. Hello. Hello.

Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Good night. Joanna. Good night. Joanna.

Oh, Anna, what happened? Yeah, me You said in the message that I took the Culp. But, let me let me talk about what was what

what was so. Ah, no. It's that I'm afraid of I'm right with my woman and me said,

I'm saying, because I gave a rott making the messages, no? And I don't know to mark

to me? And I'm come to make like a Yeah. Quintan us. But, but,

but, well, the last, well, no, we've seen the

podcast in si the Mierckel but we saw the we know because no no

I don't get the notification so so that's um sorry I'm

this day was my my and I'm my brother and I met with someone

someone more and so like that the moment of that the child

that had about the the same she started a vi very

in my car I remember I remember of And it was kind of rare So, for example Yeah, conform

He passed The in vivo This, It was almost two The light Mysteriously Okay, mysterious And there's a lampara

And there's a lampra And there's one and you That's one that That's a part of that It's a parted So, yeah when it's It's when it's It's apada

And mysteriously It's apou at the same time than the light and no I'm

the light was a cargated so it's a little a mini

lucecated and it's a cargada and ferraro then we're we're so normal

the podcast and yeah but it was it was that we turned to get

to start to get very very rare the vibra and

like my woman has has two trolls that

adopt after a time when we went out of my my brother he said the troll that is protector of the family that was that he chose in her her pair of her

this he said he said he said he said there was necessary to hear us there was a lot and the troll he did various

noises my brother my brother not was my brother not was but I did I see I heard

and it was like a little rare and so And, well, in that moment, it started to feel very, very rare the vibra, after the video clips

that had shown, yeah, yeah, there was just when when it was, when it was started, when it was started, when it started, like, so, it was, like, because, mysteriously.

And, yeah, this, it's, it, well, it's, it's, normal, no, the very, very strange to the vibra here, sincerely.

If there was If you had something And you're seeing For example The video That we've shown Was one real Of course

Yeah Yeah So, So, it's Provocal something Now, evidently

You're using The voice The Gabriel Amor Making the Exorcism The intention No

And apart The demonio In possession Abouteriel Yeah Yeah she albor, you'll have been.

Is that you know, what's going to say a little and being honest, Joanna, if it's probable that there's a method of

suggestion there, but, oh, oh, oh, it has passed, for example, I've done

people, I've put on people, in expositions of the paintings of a pantheon, no?

And, and they're put in a particular like I have recommended, it's called Alucarda,

beanla, that's incredible of the cinema of the film the director of and Aluctersuma

the director and Alucarda is a chica that is adorator of the devil okay but Moctezuma

metio letanias reales uff it's that they're doing with jurors reales

sure is that is that is that the director he said no let me not matter fiction

we're met letanies reales well in where is in these Letanias, Paco, fluctuant

the phenomena. Uff, this, bro. So, no do you have passed something. Sure. What, is you have to

do with a discernment Joanna, in that if me enganche and that's, I mean, enjoy it. So, do you.

With all the people that's here connected, disfuttenlo. Saluders to the 3,000 people who

are connected in this. Ah, disfutenlo, and vivanlo, but no so they've given not to the camera,

nor the car, exactly. Exactly. Procurement, I always to do, do, of the context of not

I know I know that it's impossible there's things that we're but try also to have a control in

your mind to say you see you know and it's the cycle and I mean that I'm a person

that's a person that's on the time and you too also we've done we're yeah

yeah also recommendation for all and for Joanna us we pass

the effect of the character of the exactly that we simbran yeah

yeah yeah let me dino dino of that night is that my

mother has has done to see to see to the mortes and so

very recently opened his third o'clock because they had been for situations

in the which she had no could control and they were so

my woman so now now not not it because once

I just never sentia now now yeah I see

the and the of those things that's he's he's

that they're they're they're they're so that that night she's we don't know

we're not we're not we're there's we're we're we're going and normal

and my my her she's dreamerer mysteriously she's very normal

that she's well not normal but she not normal it's very abnormal that she she's a person

with a person with no he does no he doesn't make a to do you make a

a lot to do I mean, I was in a little tardy, and yeah, when I went to, me, I went to,

like, a, uh, because rare, I, I felt, really rarer, because,

he was moving much, and I was, it was a very rare, in the whole, the sole

man, standing dormied, with a, like, like, when, when,

when, it's, he's, so, and then, and then, because, usually,

then, my braha. That's when me abrazo, I started to feel very pesed to his body. And when I did that movement,

because that moment, that's the moment, he said, and he said, and he said, and then he said, oh, well,

it's fine. And then I would have done. I think I imagine that I'm like 40 minutes, because I

don't know until the 12, in that the transcurs to 1, and it started to make movements very long.

My woman, my woman, and my brother and my Me, he said that, that someone was attacking, and that she was dis-prending of his

body, so I felt that someone was trying to enter in him, but, of some way, no could. And he said, that, that in that transcurs, he insisted that that that thing, literally, was, um,

agarrand, and I, you, I'm kind of, I, Yeah, me levanted, and I said, well, no, we have to take the importance, we're going to be in a lot of positive. No, we have to be, if in the case, if you intend to pose, there's, well, no, no, we're going to take importance,

that no, we'll go to pass nothing. And we know, and we know, and we're going to sleep. Yeah. That's all right, because we're almost one hour of the spireta. So, we've, like, between the 4th, yeah of the transcurs, until almost the 6, was that I, yeah, I'm done with normal. But, yeah me that in that

transcursor, this, I, that that that was, well, not I don't know the

but I was going to, that I was about, I said, I said, I said, but I said that I

knew that I know, how, how, how, how, I'm not, so it's

very, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

he's a thing, and then he's done that's that's a thing, brazando

and he was, he was apretting the back. Wow. That's so

there were various times in those in the he was he was doing

things and then he was doing making it was making think that was in the world

but really really and yeah it was that almost almost at 6 was when

she was when he didn't get to because he did fear he did

something to that. Tremendous. And, and, and, but I mean,

strangelyly, when I went to, I'm going to the back. Okay. I'm sorry. Yes.

Yes. Yes. I'm going to demitificer. Nobody you see, and you have the third eye.

Okay. You have perceptions transensorial, you're going to have the only that would that would be that the psychoblokees.

Exactly. Yes, yes, yes. Exactly. It's, out of the third eye, you're trying to get into.

It's real. You're just taking your money. And he's saying that you're going to start the

third o'clock. The perception no, it's never. It's blockia nothing more. Exactly. Mentally

about us. I mean, I heard a way, it could be with exercises in meditation where you can get to

get a blocker of this type of perception. Yeah, evidentement there are many ways

that can't learn there. There are people that are even

medicandos. Paco, there are people abemos people who we're blocked for fear. Exactly.

What's that's ironic of my part I'm, I'm going to the four years of you know?

We can't get to see that yeah? Right, we're the yeah, we're saying

for being with us and we're we're saying with us here what rest of this

in vivo. Cuyate much. Thanks, Joanna. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Bye. I want to say to my left there's a there's normally the bell

is over a same is very very quiet here we're in a house that is the

house of 400 years where there's inbruchas where have passed

many but the muros of this house are very great the

the right in the city of so I'm I'm because it's a lot.

In fact, I imagine that you're going to be sullandum, but to be able, the veil that I'm here I'm in a moment, I feel like that's a loca,

the flama, like, it's a syrio. Uh-huh. It's a syri- and these syri-yo is, those syrios are used for the sessions

Uiha. Exactly. So, so, of a repent, there's, but there are moments where something where something

something that something is, you know, you use that you use objects ritualized, is that we

weas that weas that's wehaz we have done we're ritualized the Syriots is that

every every object is that ritualized so in evidence if it's like a

carg if you you want to and we just we're talking the theme

and we we're in the place there's imagine imagine imagineate

it's for here Fervia Lobbos if Samudio says Silocoe

he Mando Mando let's don't don't don't donations

Philoue nothing Filokue but what is the that you say that you say, you're ex-patre filocque.

There's that. You're sorry. Salus. And ex-patre filokue, proceed. Uff. I said, I said,

you're going to say the Evo. What? If you want, the Inducatimus also, no, no, no,

we're not. We're going to, we're going to. The invocation, we're not going to want to do wehack. They want to get us inocation, let's say,

no. Oh, to see, a bit important for that we passed on the last gravation

that's here. Grabation of one of the stories of stories enbrocated 9th of

October. No, they're you heard of the time. Yes, all we

all we all we do you know. Here we're in a quarter about four four. The

little I heard of my little we hear that we see, here here we see, here, here we're

here we're all this this chico were in in camera no, was in where?

In your computer that? He was monitoring Oskar Oscar. Oscar. Oscar.

A lot of a Firm. Saludos, and he he was in the microphone. Now,

o'clock. As we're we're doing, no, there's not no there. Pongance also the

alert of what you independently of the funde. Yeah. And there you know,

you know, you remember? Yeah, sure. Salas. Salas. Salus. Salos.

He's a question during one of the tours. Capted the voice. Of the of the

caon. He was going to say that no he made. Heapted the voice of a kind of a monk who arento. Oh, no, can't be. Like in a dialecto rar. Like a language rar. I said Samodio, it was a Latin,

it was preo, it was like, Arameo, no see. No, man. And I said, and I said, and I'll have, and in a moment of a, ohho, me la he was to hear, because I had to do discernment.

I said, okay. and if I see I'll hear me no no manches Amid Oh so So it's Like

Ablas Like that Abra Sla Like that And in one of the Abidations So imagine

If you No It's that I mean It's a Really It's a Yeah

I'm gonna Mander Salud For a For example There Adry Spel

Thanks Adri for Saludus Alos Alex Gonzales And say

I'm I'm I'm minutes of the Puente of the Diablo, okay, and then we'll pass things that's quite

for there say, say, put an algodotot ponosel on the obligo for that not absorb any

mal energy Betty. Thank you, thanks for the recommendation. Uh, let me, Saludos

with carino Samudio, Lulu, Lulu, that's here for here. Thank you. Thank you.

We're going to the next question, Hasiel, Samudio, we're we're we're

we're going two questions. Yes. And, and we're going to the question. Yes,

let's say, let's say, which is, to have you know what is? Okay. This is the manda arroba

alo. 0.0.0.0. 0. Is that said, what has been the case for the normal that's

you have impressioned? That question is for you, man. Okay. So,

there are great, grand, great, rasgos, of all of many have been impacted.

What was the most who was the most he I've called on various podcasts and various

interviews and also here with Paco, I think the most me marked because me stoyed in my

rostro the reality of that's the phenomenon that is the position and it's the one

and it's the story of my story of the new, that I participated as a

absolutely testigo, and in some moment I gave a process of exorcism with Francis

Cypriel. Cyprian. Yes, Yes, yeah. And this, and I was like part of testimony, no, but to me, the fact of that is a newvato in that moment, novato in the area

of possessions and exorcisms, yeah, I had 27 years of age, yeah, I had a lot of background, but no, I didn't have cases of position, my. I mean, I was a case, well, for me, it was a phenomenon that was eradicated totally to the creency of the persons.

Yes. When I, I'm about to not have to have to have said I always I've been under the term of the term of the

and a more than much ato, so there's no, no, there's nothing that

me seske in the torno of the creency those ecclesiastic exorcists because I've seen to work.

It's a job, no, it's a very in caon, and I've seen people

that are cases that have been investigated, that have done that have all the

marabunt of the other with who with the ecclesiast and exorcist and they're

the solution well then I took it and me took it a demon or various

demons more being posying the mind of a man me

saw me and I said we're we're we're we're

all that you all that you was we nobody said nobody

said of That's the theme, Paco. What was when you blockaded? I was, I mean, it's a recordatorio. Yes. Of when, imagine it, my flashback, like, totally.

It was tommar me to the camera. And I was not so much in the channel of the Agents Negro. I told, like, all the details of that susicited

in that, in that time, of that Cyprian me said, not you know, you know, you know, not you see like that's so on my

eyes, and be it to look at the eyes and like if something or someone would be at a point of dark,

for not to say the word, in a little little only two years. No, that's the

maldat pure. The context of maldard pure in just only a only a year to say

that you that said and in that moment all what is investigator, all what is agnostic,

It's sceptic, what he said, dishebrajado. Why? Because that case not only me impacted to me in the sense to say,

it's true, it's real, but he moved and removed traumas of my niemih. Connoce your past.

Total and absolutely, and all the spirits of that kind of aboutnose of the demonios know they

absolutely who we're who we're who. That's dole, That's that we don't dole. What you're

You, your talon to Achilles? I'll tell one and I put it in the

secretory. Paco me know I know perfectly. People that have

assisted a exorcism no I think because they're they're

so they're not so not so so much they're in a cell with a

process of possession because if the demonio detect a that you could you

want to you put in evidence. Okay. And all we have something.

I mean, I've got to hear a lot of So, I'm sure. Hasel? You too, yeah, I said I was,

let's see, the door, to be, context, so, we're having the transmission from a

telephone that that's, that's, that's, because here there's, because here there's,

for this, we're doing directly to do directly to the exterior, it's a passillo. It's

completely dark. In this moment, I'm because I did because I'm

a lot of so so you're like that's talking about but... Yeah, I mean

his reaction of Paco was like he said he was going to with the testimony.

But is get you get to what you can't what you're a bit is a

experience is real and it's and it's when they can't these things.

You're listen you can listen, us more I let's let's

let's let's we're aparted in any place in we're in, for example, in the

house of each one of you're in your house in your house, in all the moment

there are entities spirituals. Exactly. No, they need to be brugated, not need

to be in a lot of. But there are places that have more than other.

The difference is like in the places. So, for example, here, I would

like, I would ask you in the night? Here, I do not. Oh, am I.

Look, maybe to pass it, but without not to be in the time. So he

says he says that he's going to yeah, I'm sure I'm sorry. Yeah,

I'm there's a there there's where you see things. It's that here in the

passio man, the back in the backio in the in the

video in the discovery in Discovery channel this we're getting to

putter we're we're we're we're we we're we pass

something and he Yes, I did. Yes, I was. He did you have to calm Am I mean. Brother is a peter is

a peter. To be, for you know them to know a potter. Potter is a type stoical to the gorro.

It's more is a type imperdeciable and that you see you know is more it's more it's inexpressive

you've seen no. Sure. Of a repent I'm, I'm like I'm

peter you're like so I'm salus to Pottor I give with all carino

because is in expressive We've been We're doing with the Club of The Clos

to Raiza Rebels to Rebels Rebels to Raiza Revelles and during one of the many of the many

you've been I'm talking three years here more of hundreds of 150 sessions 50 sessions

Faces yeah never had never ever that day Potter no saw the

yeah see the video and a me me me he said oh my

you're okay you're you know what I said Potter and the bell

like I'm like I'm like some sometimes do you sometimes do you do do you

do you have seen it's more he's more he's he's maybe he's

recogying things and they're analyzing things super eseptic so

this day something something something he's here here and here

and here and here and here and you I'm do you do a refresh when I was

a little bit more than I was to nuched, after the recording of Discovery. And why? Because we've got we put cameras and to care we're doing this. So, of a repent, I said, you know, I don't see concili the sunno, no for what I'm here

but for the frio that was doing. And then, then, so we're going to do. Two veces us opened the door. Wow. And so, but so they're going to sound like. And and so. And yeah, Potter, like, Potter, is more

of the two times, Potter did not do. Yes, I know what I've seen, so it's a person Yeah, so. So, you know,

yeah. So, it's, to get the light, and there we'll see. Yes. Well, those times

they're in the door. No. I don't see have to this, Paco, but Potter in the session

that we did the opening, with Reis A Rebels and the society. Of the all the we're all

we got into yeah. I saw, we did How are you? What are you? Potter, with me, with me. It's that, I was, I mean, it was the expression that's, he was the look at

here. Yeah, so, so, it's he went, and he started to put the eyes in black. I said, no, no, no, no, man. I said, I said, Potter, never, never, ever, he passed nothing. Tremendous. No, me know what you guys and put them free, and the hands

also. And we're just, we're talking about, that's a lot. No, no, no, right, right, right, but, but, so, yeah, drastically. Of course, right, after, I'm going to put my sweater. It's changed drastic

or right, but so, fum, in when you started to talk about the question. We're going

with the question, Hasiel? For favor, we can do you? Soplar? Yeah,

that's correct to be the question. Ah, blah, that question, I mean, I'd like

that you like that you know, because we're talking about of a thing of

an theme of an time, for example, this is anonym, it's anonym, okay.

It's Would it correct to give to Lucifer to the person that destroyed to my family? A be right. It would be

correct to give to lucifer to the person that's true my family. There's a effect in the

proper Alta Magia, in the magic conventional, even the magic of Locos Pocus, as I'm

the magic of the Mercado Sonora, with all respect. Yeah, you know, and, this,

all, effect boomerang. Yeah. All the intention of what you desire is that you regress seven

times. Yeah. Dichael, even we comment us, just a little spoiler of one of

the brus that we've sent out of seven. Seven times seven. Six times seven.

Exactly. If you maldice, seven seven times seven, it's a termino

100 biblical. And apart the number cabalistic and so the context. So,

So, well, Lamentably this issue of your family, but there's something that's

a carma. Yeah, so, let's do it a carma. Tardro the time, the things,

I always I've said, I'm always, if we're to, uh, Judeo-Cristian, with the

barrake-meda you're made. Sears exactly. Exactly. All right. All right, all what

sienbres, is what you to cocechach. So, there are many barabolas that talk

of this boomeran, of this rebutte, of this game of this game of doing to do you? If you

want to be from a point of a political, the universe is so so bad to give to

the people what he correspond. Exactly. In Jor, evita, you're gonna be broncas and

like poncio Pilatos. To lavers the manos. Samario, is it is still to say to

all right, I'm saying to your experience that you've in your newness. Okay, yes.

For favor let me go. We'll go ahead and make it a quick no you guys. There are two evidences that I'm going to those have been not as they're going to be. Not as well I'll say I'm saying because we're in a place where the abyspero

is a little bit. No they're not, no, they're going to be we're going to. We're going to come. We're going to go to a while and we're going to be. We're going to be. We'll go. Let's see. What time? Family. I'm sorry? I hope, family? I'm I'm going to have paged the

light, gone to go to the bathroom. Prepared the palomita. We're going the next

part of this in-vibo. Samudio, ago, you know, you said, you said, the experience

of your nie-eheels. Something that you obliged to, well, no, I don't know if it's the

problem correct to , that's that many who know like the third-o-o-

What was what you vivista. Friette, I'm the most little of five brothers,

although no see. I'm more more, more more chis than you. Yes.

This, I'll send a salute to my five brothers, four brothers, and me took

to start in a time, you know, as always, as the parents start a

little to get a a little and more. My father and my father working

all the time, my mother encargance of my brothers and of me, I had four years of

age and as a good little, I still don't, I'm still to go to my other brother,

that is the he's the two years major, uh, six years, I'm going to the primary,

then so all in the school, my sisters in secondary, my brothers in

primary, and I was the only that I was the house, duplex, that,

let me say, I'm saying something, Paco, I pass for that

house. And it's more, I pass for that quadra and no I don't want

to even to look at see that somebody in some I said, hey, what is the

Samoyos that you is the Juan no, no, no, you're not, no,

every investigator has a flakees that, every investigator we have,

we're, we're the talon of Achilles. And my Nemesis is that house. Tata of

1980-tantos, four years of age, I'm going to all in the morning, Paco. In the

morning? No, me pass in the night. Well, the night in the

night, but in the morning, with the sun plen of that house when I

was going to the reja, I'm getting to start, I'm nervousito to come that's

that's that's that's that's I'm because I'm selecting the next time. So, okay. No, no,

no, don't you don't worry, my friend. Let's I'm going. Every time that I used

the door to my mother to start, is to see, of that house, I recall, I remember perfectly

that I had a with a hiberon and I, and I have a nata, but for that

episode, because for me is an episode traumatic. Sure. So, when I heard a

rea of that house to start in that moment was like it's a

only but not only was the little was the little open the

eyes and say there's there a woman on my miscarnada

is I mean I'm I'm I'm and I grittable but

no grittable like a like a little a larido Paco at

at the six seven of the morning seven and four of the morning, because the

entry of my, my brothers, for example, the second of the second was in the

morning, and my men, and my three and my remember that's a larid lastimero feo,

horrible, but in my eario. So, this we've got a lot of the sound

in the casks when they were doing things, chirriant so, but imagine

a larid of a man. So, horrible. Four four years. Four years. And I was

so, and then then I'd be able to quiet, quiet, quiet, and I said, and the respiration

and the moment I said, I said, I'm going with these things. 7 in the morning, I

see the the sun to enter to the front of my parents and give to even

the poor illumination and is where I saw the the raskos of that the woman

desencarned derretida like if if it was that I'm that's a kemada. When

yeah no want to his gritty because it was a gritty and I incorporated, I vented

the mammil, me back to the camera and to gore to the door. In a

a house duplex, for you understand it's a house of a one little place,

where all is a one little and it's a corridor very long where they're the recamars

that are to all the house, car, and so, the door to the door to

the door I carried more of 50 to 60 times to get that and that door and that was a

change your reality? Everything. So, like the house and what there in the

house moved to my reality. I'm when I understand and I study all this

and I do, and I think there there are moments in that an entity

spiritual under a crisis is that after a manifestation invasive

in a person in the case of a It can be so traumatic that It's a grader Or, more than transgressing

So, my reality My reality was simply To come to a door and But in the reality of the Sust, in the moment of the crisis And it's a lehava, So, he was away, So, and detracts me

All those tracters So, it's so, terrible, Feo. What traumatizant, Amid? So, for a child For a little bit of four years To be all that?

And I'd gore to the sion me asomable in the ventana I'd try I'd try to open the door of the

nervous not really the door the door was in my mom never simply

push so he was to the door and and fortunately

not I was never I'm I'm I'm you see

you can you can confirm other people that people because

I did you get to my mom not not a question that

me would be me So, it was a matter. It was a question of that you get a little dormitando. Yes. It's very

very time. It's a momentaneously a half hour in what I went to my mother to leave the other to the school. And it was four, five quadras and

regresser. Well, I no, I want to even 15 minutes there. And there all of a little. This,

over all this woman, this woman that pegged a lari, but not only in the mornings, but not in the madrugas.

I, when it was in the madrogas it, it was to transgressing me in my reality in the morning, and then it was up and I appeared in the madrugas. In this ventana where it was a space of a tragalus, where it wasia to other windows, and

simply simply simply, there was a piece of a passio where no had entered or any salida. It was like a-cossed. Exactly. Like, if if I'd be very incansablement... Contigued.

With me. But it was simply a larid. I mean other things. I'm going to

see to and that the face and that's me view to be able to be a form

that I'm okay. So, is that's a when you when you do you

see a picture, then what you're what you try to see your

you know, when when you know, when they're in the time, yeah,

there no there's that, in the morning in the morning, in the the time

I went and I saw and the a little bit me I'd get a

attention in my face, my rostro, all my chachettes all of all start

to get over. So, like you were in the same suffering than the woman. Exactly.

So, now you were you represent about in that situation. Exactly. I,

I know, evidently that's a shust, after susto. I've I've a time

medical in the same thing that they tried to try to look the explanation

that's what they have to do the what was the pass outfuer that's going to be able to always

always decartal the medical but after fiatte I think that that's part of the sensibility that I had

what you had before before before you even in the chingado doctor that I remember perfectly

the doctor longinos so that and this were of these doctors of the time of the 70s

so with the pantalons after up the so after the panzota as we have us

with the cintululone and and his lenses of a lot of the

lot of the let's let's see you know and we revisable

and he really so his clinic apaco with quadros allus

to the death after after the so those those

there people post in the camera and people being

postra in the camera that what so you say

you like because then was revisable I said, I don't have talked to any other

I've talked to all the doctor longhino's with the lavater Languas that I'm dave you know is that you

get to the cogote and they're and they're and the way and the way that's like a lamp

and so and there there was a expression that terrible of these infirmaries of these

I'm talking about these with these with this and so and so and so and so

there was so moved the doctor longhinos and me I'm seeing a man who

I'm saying that's that's that episode no I've called on other he's a

contact visual to you? I'm saying I'm saying I'm looking at the doctor lungin

and I go back the in the language and I and I just

I'm just I'm and I'm and I'm yeah yeah yeah I'm

yeah yeah I'm well I'm and he said and

the moment to get a moment of but real. No, a spirit.

A, a spirit. Okay, that's... Well, let's I'm... Well,

I'm... Yeah, sure. And in the moment that he was where she was a minute

but so, in the moment that long, he was the lamparita and the batelengua

and she was up to come and the infirm like, and I'm and I was

so, and I was so and I was so and And I saw, the and the infirmary and the first of the

doctor's and experts in medicine even though they were in this he was a local no. No,

no, what you were you were seeing a a recent maybe desvived for it. Yeah,

a person that had passed a second life. And I say one I remember

because they're because they're batitts these of these of those that's in the

but the quote this demacred even even even with bigotito and so me

kept a That's what I'm saying. But here, brother. Oh, the other life. So,

so, you know, you know, you know, you know, I mean, I mean, I mean,

I mean, I'd say, to be, they were, they were to talk about communication with you. But to me

aterrava, yeah, I was a little, when I was a when I'm, when my father, when my father

yeah, he said, oh, wait, let's, this is another other thing, yeah,

you know, you know, the doctor's anemia, this, the other, that we're going to even

in the area psychological or psychiatric of the menores also they're to discard my father did a

point of something my father and my father he's done because he also wow and it's when

me says we need to put us to study all that that's that's that's

you have been an explanation and it's where this desire to I mean

to say I'm said the person's that all his whole has

you've a life dedicating to this and the knower, the being, living, knowcied the phenomenon, of the fact, you have put in a place that you

are representing, the agency Mexican of investigation paranormal of Mexico, the phenomena, the cases, is something impressive. Fifate,

you know, that right, while we're in the court, if of a repent, if, I'm, with the telephone,

I'll go back to repeat. It's because here me are getting the messages, I mean, all those

I'm listening. There's a man That's the San Andres Tuxla A place A lot very very certain to Catemaco, Veracruz. She's called

to Malinali and she me says My Tio, Abuelo was the Brucho of Catemaco

And I And I I'm with him for So I think for advertency of a work that

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from the house of 400 years with the good Anthony Samudio Salos Amalini.

Yes, I'm sorry thank you thank you thank you thank you we're talking about us

well well I'm um malignalli I'm sorry a nieta of the

sonalva Agirri of Katemako that was the group major and I don't know

if you know you can you can ask a a question a It was the That's the last

Like two years I think A year It's called A news that he had He was A man

A man with Barbas Blankas No, he Yeah, he Yeah, he Yeah, he He's just

I'll go to tell after how the issue Okay Well, my story is that we

We've been in a pavilion in San Andres Totsla in Caleria We have We have a tia that,

well, she dedic to do this type of of the work of the socius. Okay, a night.

Yeah, exactly. One night, I, I was, I was, I was, I was,

I was, I was, so I, I went to to sleep, and I'm, and I'm, and,

and, I'm, I'm, I'm, and this man, say, oh,

get't because something going to pass. And I was out of so like, like, why I'm I'm trying to do you. Passed 10 minutes, and the Tia that, that

I tell, was scarvading in one the corner of the house of my abuela, like, trying to

enterer something. So, then she did point in the moment that I put the light in my fourth, or a

rato, he was going to get to his house, past a half

hour, he went to the same, to want to be to get to

and but yeah was like much insistence no. After

that that night I went to go back again. I was to know

to be and said oh, this woman want to do this person

in the family. I recommend to this family but no me treyo. I don't me treyo.

I never, I said, ah, you're not taken to be like, oh, no,

those these things are incoerentes. No, really, I'm the type of

because they're in, or not, pass. Passing. So, so,

here the question is that, well, if I, if I was in sobri-aviso, unfortunately no

passed to major, because it was a job to end up the life of someone. So,

I mean, unfortunately he could parer that a time, still mandating work, it's doing

doing a distance, because I feel, no? So, is that the house,

although is the light, even it's dark, even they paint with colors

clear if see obscure the house always always always so in the

nights when we we're going to go to the last the room in our casitas

of the same always it's always they're a pedit that's

all the nights before to go to go to do to go to

that that is son to be going to sonar

so So, well, yeah, this is, I'll say, the other I'm going to send me

a email in a or I'm to tell how I'm that's the issue that is this

to do that it's the thing. Okay. You can ask a question? Yes,

in the context of for example is that that's the work that is that was

like very very very strong and insistent yeah, very latente. Uh-huh. Until that happened that

you, you know, or still there's latent, or how? Well, no, you know,

if really the work that she was to put, so, maybe he put something or put other

cost like for that for that didn't get a lot in-sid because it was very

obvious, no, I mean, I had had done of what I wanted to what I wanted,

And, well, if, if, passed, passed, some accidents, but no, no, no, no, he was, that's, that's the question. Exactly. If it was, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, exactly. And, right, the karma,

the karma, he's not going. The karma is it down. Evidently, what it's what people are people that, that are people, that are you, that are doing this type of work. Oh,

and the way of the way of your you want to thank you. We're very thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

For here, I want a salute very special to Lulu Hernandez, that's we're seeing.

Lulu, you put a great a brother. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you

the hour. We're going to the last two videos. Yeah, it's that you're a rata. Fiatty, that me pass something strange,

as I'm going to be the bell here, when I want to see where is the pastile oscuro, my o'clock me get to the light.

The light. I mean, it costs to be the obscurity. Possibly it's also a bit of, yeah, a fact,

an effect, optico, yeah, because first I get the reflex here, here I have two light,

I have, the two irios, obviously. And, well, to let me do the man,

I see dormitado here with Water and if have passed things. I mean, I don't

discartary that's that I've been sombras and it's more. It's that's the time of a

person. So, so, I was like, the photography that we saw the initial,

is of that port. That's the point. That's so, I mean, I'm sure, I'm sorry,

I'm skeptical, but I'm skeptical, but it's like like a perro, it's like a perro, that's a

good phrase. The way to start will be able to do. Yes, we can say what is the video Hasil,

for the context before, for the context, okay. In this video that's you're going to see,

is a person that in his work, that's like a type of airport or something, he's

to experimenter things paranormal. He begins to grab he's not a little,

but there a moment where he starts to come to the banos, that is

where it has done activity poltergis. Okay. We're going to let me call the play

me say he's when you let's play okay there he he's talking he's saying

all what is going to what's saying he's he's completely solo

if it's like a is a is a bigelante that's doing his

work and even even he's he was he had experiences

not for for something they're saying learn the

video so he he he he mustra very well

and does understand that's he's so that no nobody so he's

yeah yeah yeah of he actually he's but if I

did the communication to what to to the entity uh uh

yeah he started so he's the and Christ that

yeah yeah yeah And it's when The key And it's when It's when it's But what

Impressionante is The keys That's That's active Consensor Oh, my Marika I'm

I'm too Yeah The Yeah The Puerces I mean Yeah

And the And the Puerta, man Amigo Yeah So, So, no

see That's a Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a So,

a bit, so, a bit, so, there's a bit, there's a yeah,

that's a that's a really, nerve, yeah, so, not it's a

a form in how his his form in how his his character, he's

he says, Oscar, he says similar, when we're things paranormal, or events

paranormal, he's But he is his form in how he express So what you Can you can't say to this video

I've seen I've seen Some of these videos This is Derepente's D'rault with The vigilants

Who's watching And is a Vigilante They've been Deven to A lot of things They're

They're They're To be To have For the Well, Well, Imagineate

all in In a place like This or in A place Like we We're Like we

There There are There many sequence of the actions, I mean, where I do it is in

the, like a preparatory of the same, in the moment that is pre-disposed

to that possibly will be to be able what he's that he is doing documento

of what he has been a single a single once. Evidently in this occasion,

but simply it's simply it is vislunding and try to maybe

a evidence, possibly maybe it's met that so but Oh, my God. It's like Esena 1, Scena 2,

Scena 3. What can contraproducente or dangerous is to do what he did this man? In case of that this video

is real. Not I'm going to say that's real. We're going to put it right in the play. Al-Are. Suppongamus

that it real. What can dangerous is to give a conversation to an entity that you know is.

For example, one thing, is to say, an example, I, Paco, I'm the house of the cost of six years and here I'm doing what there,

I'm talking, but he he was doing the entity. If he's what I'm, to be, a see, there's a bit of a receptor. Yes. Dentro of the investigation paranormal, this is denominated by the way of

that I'm a receptor, a example. Yes. I'm still doing with what there in space and time in the place and time in the other.

If I to adder the, for over and gracia of the, no-se-kind your entity, I'm doing a focalization of the same, is exactly. I'm starting the attention

of the entity of the entity of the of me and still still I'm doing case in all what going to pass. Usually, it's a thing

just a lot more. For example, there's where I'm a discernment. Because it's the key, then the door. So, so,

so, if it's, it's a bit impressionate of the spejo. No, there's no, no, no, any of any of any of the rolloo, and all the rollo, and it's enciended the lye. The keys? The

yeah, and then, what of the banion. I feel that it's like, like, a kind of a special of show. First, we'll start with the doors, and then, with the door. In this sense, I'd say that the

Poultergas pass a one one a single way. It's fortuit. But, also, no, it's not, you know, it's to move the cellular, and right, to move this, and at the final, you

go, the door, no pass so. Okay. Because the entities spiritual is

for much a charge energetic that are in iracundo. There's a scene bad, Paco,

that's a lot of we can't put it because it's of a movie that ghost.

Okay. Ghost, the sombra of the love. Where the phantasma protagonist,

Patrick Suisi, he goes to the phantasm of the metro and he says, oh,

how move the objects, no And the phantasm he says, he has to emanar of your

odio, of your and your and he starts to say that's and he he's going to and he's

a phantasm of the metro to move objects because he needed to move objects, I need to project a

poignetazos to those to those who they've lived here. Total that has a symbolology

very important a entity spiritual is psych-emotional. A-Hu-emotional. A-ha-oh. yaves of the water, it would have to

signify the why you open the light of the something? A message, no? Yes,

of communication? Because then thence would be very ambiguous, it's like to say, uh,

for example, the potterger is the narvarte that he had the that he were that they

they were, a bottle, a bottle, a bottle of a bottle, if one, they were they were

and they're they're a message. That's a car, the water? The water or he

is for you, the Interphone, when he moved and it was he kept to him. So, the elements, were the elements,

were like the complementos of what I wanted to say the spirit. Not is so banal the communication when a entity

move to an object. There's a logic, no? Yeah, so, it has to be a communication.

So, the psychoemotion of there radica in that this quater, is it's emphatized

in him. See, evidently the RISA is. Yeah, nervio. We'll

with the ultimate Evidence this this is the same in a

place in a but even in this before you know you know in the

context are there are many people who are there are and I think that is

a one person of the person of that's present he he says

he says he we're in what we can't we let's let's

let's say three two one And now, Oh, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, yeah, yeah. So, about because

if they're narrating the actions, they're so, and if there's a kind of

not a juggeteo. No, no, no, no. Ah, but if there's a sequence because if there

were the doors little, the door great. The door It's horrible, no. Yeah, but for that we're

Accompanied, I mean, we're going to But, but it's No, poor sita And that's Yeah, that's But she'll show me Yeah, yeah,

Gleggie, and See, but In comparison with the other video Here, no, this, What you You said is,

The game, Not here, Here, Here, it was Here, There's, Tantangang! That's the video

Is the minute, Oh, Oh, Oh, it's the ultimate, It's the ultimate, It's the ultimate, is his ultimate.

It's the ultimate It's ultimate, it's the Yeah, exactly. Ah, no, it's a person, a guardian, pardon, I think it was a guardian.

It's a person of there but, that's the sequence, to be, Alisva, how we

we know, how we're we're going to we're doing, we're doing, the analysis of Polterger's the movement

of an object without apparent, without any movement physical, is that there's a

force that there's a movement of something of a other physical, if it's something

okay of the concept of how it's how it it's what he moved what's what piece

has the object with based to what type of movement see all the all the analysis yeah yeah no

no no ah no so the why the movement of the water and why it's the

why you know and usually usually the poltergister and begins with a movement with a movement very tenue

and it's usually is so because the Carriage Energetica Apaco not is

that's it's just the people that would that were like a cumul like a

pericle of not a car so it's like I move the object the

and so like it was the effect domino no it never ever

will be because the car energy that needs a

something to for to do to make it's

like it's like the psychemotion in what is for

to play with the door to do you what you would be in that's with the

with the doors? No, I don't know I'm a bit, there's an interaction

of the people, see, look, no, okay. Possibly to capture the

attention of those persons but one one once that they got it after they see?

See me so me so the charge energy of the entity spiritual could

It's like to say that just to open and start them it's like torniquettes and then the subsequency of the other

point. What? A bit, I mean, you know, I'm asking if you can push a

one, one a port of those, some torquettes that have a certain there's a case, we have

a case in the convento of Santa Rosa in Pueblo that we have to go,

okay. We're to program in Pueblo. The convento of Santa Rosa in Puele

one of the most embruchos of the the world. Conventos, I mean. There I

have a mona that's a man who's like a an evidences incredible, Paco. Wow. In serious.

And I have a poltergas with cabos of the carousel of the antio.

Yeah. Of those cabios grandissimo, enormous and of laton of laton, I refer to

pesatisimus. Sure. And a polterger that's a movement over of those.

A- see one or exerts another or he to be at the same time the two. But,

but he's to do you make of the movement, me explain? I know, it's like, hey,

you're going to move this and you're going to do this, and no, no, no it's a

question. There has a kind of an psychoemotion. For that also it's very easy to discern

various polterlast. Yeah. And why if if you move some torriquetes because

not they can't they're to exactly. If you has the power

of do. So, it has the force like to exercise over the

matter of the can't because no they're not they're in a escalero. And so,

and not it's not for example and the intention of the entity? It's that is

where you're that's that's that's the psychoemotion me could generate

that Iroger these toniquettes like for what? We're we're

not so that's not malignant? No, is nothing malignant.

No. It's juggeton. Hugeton. Because they have in reference to a

infant, a infant Yeah, they've seen the nia exactly, because they're that much

people when you know when you know they're they put in you know, they're so that's

it's, because it's to understand the phenomenon that's that's so, so you can't

say, uh, if it's there's just there's there's like there's uh

offrendas but it's it's so it's a but uh a reserve that not

a death of death dulces. Pardon to let's say, but it's so. You,

under the symbolism, for example, you're going to say something, into the classificatoria

of phenomena paranormal. The most scalo-frientes are the entities of children. Yes,

I've talked much many. The most. The most most dangerous. All.

Because not they're they're just. Exactly. They're and they are,

and if you want, they're more, they manifest as they're as a little. So, if the new

so, if the new, it's all the nights, imagine what I can do you can do during

all the night. Sure. Sure, that's great, because it's a thing that we

have mentioned much in different episodes, my about the entities with appearances inoffensive

like those the, no, I mean, we know, we know, we know, we know, we, we know,

so, we know, about the phenomenon of Kilometre 371 that's the that when

when you when it when it's it's a lot of the people and when those

people are there's there's that they're in the control of your vehicle and

they're they're in carterterer and start with a carterterer and it and it

and it and it that's that's about that I'm yeah I'm thinking I'm thinking

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