EXTRA ANORMAL - Lo que nadie sabe de Juan Ramón Saenz, Mi Padre

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

En este revelador episodio de "Extra Anormal Podcast", tenemos el honor de recibir al hijo de Juan Ramón Saenz, quien nos comparte detalles íntimos y desconocidos sobre la vida de su padre, tanto antes como después de su muerteDescubre cómo Juan Ramón Saenz, conocido por sus investigaciones paranormales, ya acostumbraba a visitar chamanes para realizar prácticas de limpieza y purificación. Además, su hijo nos revela el don especial que su padre poseía y cómo este influyó en su vida y carrera.Acompáñanos en esta profunda y emotiva conversación para conocer más sobre la leyenda detrás del hombre. No te pierdas esta exclusiva llena de historias y secretos nunca antes contados.¡Dale like, comparte y suscríbete para más episodios llenos de misterio y revelaciones!

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of millions of people. Look, I can say that he was,

to really very, very very was my respects,

the really, the endregs the endregs the person that

he put to every project that he regularly regularly aced

to limpeas to events of that to congear that because I'd have to

work with energies very very important with events very impactants you think you think

that your father really he's a change of a benefit for someone

more a pacto demoniac and that he had a brujeria he

he passed a night internado and in that night my mom while

he was while he was he was he was I'm I'm do you know

to see that your time your mom so your father or

pass of a day he no there no there

no there no there no there some where

your father to work, and he dedicated a great part of his life, at the final you know, look, if there was poeo,

it was very minimum, it was, I could say, the regalias, all the programs no, not, they pertinacy

to him, they pertinacy to the, to the company. To the What I'm going to be able to be able to be able to be What a podcast extra an normal.

My name is Pacquareas. all you this occasion family is a occasion a question

quite special and not it's like in other occasions where

I'm always because in this occasion we're to talk to

someone that is the first that is the time very

very personal a time very familiar but before

to this I want to show to I want to

No, I'm going to make when I saw the I'm very much so that I'm in

my hands more than to be a recognition of the program the man peluda

of the master that in peace he's Juan Ramon Seence more

to be a recognition is a symbol of inspiration a symbol of the

much that we did this master to all those who

are all the and no man no paranormal. More than a statue is basically something something invaluable.

No, no, no, I'm very content of that today be with us someone

someone someone, Juan Ramon Science Jr. How is that your man? Very well Paco.

Much thanks for your invitation and saludos to your audience very emotional of this

chapter. Thank you for accept the invitation. I know that not is easy to talk

of these things, I thank you thank you. Today is with us also the

real real of Juan Ramon Sanel I'm to have basically the

observation because many people there be confused and we

we we are with the son with the child we're emosionable

because we we're to know a thing of

many many many but always that they're for mere

speculation it's for merr chism it's for mere morbo today we're

to leave all that because we're to hear to hear of a

part very very intimate how was the process

of Juan Ramon Seins from the moment of those

years when he basically was in this program so famous the man peluda.

Before to start, I'd like to give to your social because for there you said

you know, you know, you've got some on the thing paranormal and about to talk about

you, a little bit of you, I'm my, Juan Ramon, much gusto and my media

social I'm like It's.com with Z-I-K-W-O-W I-T-S. I-I-T-S. And I've got various projects. I'm dedicated more to the ambitto musical. Okay.

I've got projects very great, so can say. Okay. For September, mediados of August. Perfect,

brother. Yes. Oh, okay, before to start, I want to ask me a little. I'm,

I'm, I'm very young, really. You can't know your age? Sure. 19 years.

19 years. You're a young. You're young. You're in some moment has seen the impact that,

that occasioned your father for those amants of the theme paranormal? The fact is that he

I don't in a place very special because for me for me was a referent of the

thing. Someone who started in Mexico to to give a voice not a one,

a moments where the family was reunied basically in an or area specific, I'd

on the radio and they were to hear, those words that many they caused pesidias.

What do you think you do that's no, the really is I think I don't

I'm to mention the impact that he took this I'd I'd

I'd I'd I'd I'd my, of my papas, papas

of my friends, my professors, basically, not you can't say all the people, but much

people, I think I'm going to terminate what he did, and he, he was

like the pioneer in Mexico, in many things, in this ambit of the

paranormal. That's family, we're to do this chapter. You

want to I'll pay two things. The number one, you know you know before to start

with the button to subscribe to you know, you know, you know, and you see you guys

support the project and number two, in this chapter in all like in

all I to ask to be a very respectful with this theme because it's

a very intimate like a very private that is the first that

someone that someone about about this time to you be very respectful in the

case of comments. If you have any doubt or something, you can't exernerable but

always maintaining the line of the respect. And now we're going to start. Platican us Juanra,

right? You can't say Juanra. Placikon us how was, how you've lived you the

initial of your father? You were very little, you mentioned that

had six years when he was in the manned peluda, but in basis of what you have entered by part of your family, how

starts your papa in the theme of the communication and how is that is that he met a little to the theme of terror? Sure, look, he started, he interested from very small, all of what has been being being

being being being being being being being being means, and little, the life, his interests, they were going to the radio. Okay.

He, he, this, he, um, he's, this, locales.

Yes. Then, he was a program, this, um, know, a little

old, the the salsa, the salsa. Yeah, bigissim. And, a part of

there, he took a change, uh, and he he was to dedicate to more to

the paranormal. Okay. He, he was to to have various, uh, various

episodes about of that and little to they were to get a impact

very great and it was a mannopeluda Impresonant you you know you

you know when we talked a little that during this process of

the new there were some some situations but before

that had these situations they they have about some

problems that you know your mom if you let me make you're

a context we're talking about you have a kind of some type of

some type of a kind of about the theme spiritual us you can

talk how was the problem that she after

how was in your case that you there was

a moment that you were a moment you My mom

My mom Tew various problems for that I could do, visit doctors, she, he wasoed of chamanes, bruchos,

he wascoed all the alternatives that there to be to get embarrassedada. Yeah. This,

there were various things that were a little raras because she, for example,

I'll I'm going to visit one once a a man for that he could say

to give a response to help to give a child okay there when he came

to her she saw she saw an image this I don't I can give much

context is she she me me he was an image a

a rostro a a little demoniaco. And acutio to the and after

of that after she was she was normally like all the days

and she began to present various dreams she started much

and she began to see the image that she was

the deidad that this woman this person This person

Yeah So, I'm querying her Okay This, my Papa

He, this, well, so, so, he, he called to a,

a friender to a friender he, he made a he called

to, to, to be to help to, he, he did a

he did a extra okay to find the motive of the perturbation of the dream of my mom and in this moment he did a point

of that this this person this thing I wanted to rob her energy this I gave a little of context

she went when she went to the house she saw the image she saw the image and he sentio immediately

fear. After that was to visit this person and see in the moment,

yeah, the statue or the image with the time to your mom gets to her

house of her in your house. In his dreams. In his dreams.

Okay. Practically we're we're that this deidad if we want to

with the person that was to consulter and started to call your

attention something. Something he called or he called for that's that was that's

that's you know you know we can't say that your mom has a kind of

do? Exactly she commented by the companyero of my father

he said that my mom was a man was a and obviously

at moment to see the image attracted malas energies

Yeah those people those people those people, those they attract

the energy good the light and for so they're to have

to get to know to have so for so

we have even much quite when we we

consults a certain type of people because we

know we know if after this consulta you

could get better even even of you you're

here a problem that you know about you're and you thank you

thank much of the confidence because really at a

in the desperation we we're we don't we to

look the great help that that is inconditional

and that no has no no no cost

you you as you talk you did the

theme music no we don't you're in the theme paranormal but

even as has experimented things very things something that even you

didn't say you know you know you but me you did you

you know that's you know you can't you can't talk you know just

just a year in the night yeah I I've I've

I'm it's rare no I don't know how explain to

or I don't see if someone know, it's like, I would define like a paralysis

of the but a little bit more different. Okay. I've experimented paralysis of

the and they feel, obviously you're you're no, you're

no you're and you just so. But to me pass a

little different. I, I present when when I feel that I

don't do I, I'm I'm don't I can, no

I don't know. Yes. No. There's something that not let me get

to do I'm to make to give this attacks of panic I'm

so be the pressure this I'm I'm anxiety I feel

like nervous and so I try in and I when

I'm when I'm in this moment kind of I pass much that

I feel energy is is exactly when when I have the eyes and I'm

in the I'm sure but I'm conscious still still okay I'm this I'm

quite a hard to telltel it's like if there a camp energy that's not

that no me permit move me liberally and in those events I feel like movements

I feel much energy in the pressure in all the And, and it's chistoso, because when when, when

that's I know, me pass very very often. My way to reactionary is to care to start,

I'm trying and I'm the eyes and I'm my way is try to open the eyes,

and when I go ahead I'm quite much work, like if I'm exactly, but it's actually to be able

to start me, me I'm and I know and I'm exactly I'm sure

I'm sure I'm I'm I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm down I'm in the actually it's actually it's rare

because it's very but no me dole it's still

still he's he's all the day no oh yeah oh yeah

look there there there Descriven the same that you live in

this trance, we can call it a paralysis of sleep. I don't

you want to make sure it, but what these people describe when when they

tell to people experts in things of spirituality that that that sensation

accompanied of oppression of fear of the angustia is the

presence of a ser very very very but

a person of maldard in terms we can

call christian the presence of a spirit exclusively

a demon in terms spiritual a a being

a being that is there and that in some

I don't I think that it's strange but there

people that describe in this type of the things that are very really because

not is something normal not it's like the paralysis is that you you have

suffered of paralysis yeah yeah I've experimented I can make

comparisons and it's completely different yeah yeah so it seems

that like the paris to get to get to get to a

It's a little normal. Exactly. Yeah. For me, it's normal. So, I don't I'm not I'm a paralysies, yeah. But when your body, is that the example is very clear. Imagine to you, like an energy, like a

light. Imagine it's like. And imagine now that there's a light, but this light not is blank. It's a oscura. And when it's going to

you, it's provocating sensations, reactions, that that's that's all what you

have lived, desperation, fear, oppression, presence. That's happens when something

something is about us. Recordem that we're we're not energy, we're we're

all the contrary. So when we have a an acercomment is when the people

say, I'm a bad a bad feel a feel a feel a thing

something I'm really is something really is a very very that's

definitely not said to nobody more than nobody more

who has no it's really it's simply a an

inquietude or how I call this yeah I

think there there was a there but when

commensable the soceses I think I've I've got for to say your number

more of five living those sucesos I'm one a time

a time a so very very so I got to

I when I was when I knew that I thought that I

was to be to this this socese you normalis

you normalize a normalize a little so passing to a

a point that I recalcary much when your

father was in the program you know you're six years exactly

how you've lived that process you and you really was a

person really very very very very I'm yeah

I you I can tell he he was really very

very very the heart that's he put in a every chapter

to every project that he had and his hours of work were

very large. I could say I was in the madrugada she'd

in the morning she were very pesed I'm a question you

me you were you that that's that that I'm

normally when someone someone someone someone and very very

living the phenomenon paranormal so how it's your

father not only not only for passion but also

also a medium to help to the people

he was to help help a person he

he he did when I did the program

or what did like to not carry so

he he regularly would to limpias to events of that type that

helpen a person to congear that because I was with energies very with events

with events very impactant and more or more and he was going to look to help

of people that's that they're to do a energy to a theme spiritual

yeah okay spiritual we in the effect of not cargars

and is that when we we're we're in we're living in very

very so I'm standing in medium I'm to say of the many

that are accompanied of the and they're accompanied of

suffering of fear and in some sometimes can

can cause some kind of I know detail

personal even in the going more Adelante but so

so then regularly he visitable this type of places to make some

some purifications some some limpies there there situations that

I said that I don't me do you know because they really are

things that I would like to reserve for the moment

where you don't you have to there there moments

or situations that he no told that your papa

that your father what things happened and what are those stories

that never came to the light these these stories are

a little more like the personal of him okay

contadas by the family my family for example

he he acudio to a a body a

of I can't say that he sentia energies he he sentia

things I mean he had something he had a don't too he had a don't

yeah and when when he was to the body obviously of my

mom no he knows to know the no he when

when saluda a novia saluda and he he

he got the and in this moment he took a

shock he did count, he he he saw vestido of a

priest to a nobio. Wow. And nobody knew that's he never

he was he was he said, and in that moment he said to my mom,

he was a he was and then after of various times he

came to he he he could see that the side I can

say of his past and is that is that that is that that's me about that

your did you confirmed the clear evidences to be even not only only

only the past but the even I'm to say little little

little little that's that's there's there there there

there there there also Yeah, this is a little more but

this is more of my family Okay This Um Um A family

A woman Yeah Um Um One One way He came to the house

She had Two kids Uh And Um and he felt something rarrow

I think the same I think the same the moment when he has the contact

with her and he something and he said and he he said you're saying

you're you're you're trying through a door with your his

and she she she gets so how how how

he's how he saw it? And And resulta she She didn't He had

He said But but So, his his Pairja had

some type of violence contra To exercise violence Against Exactly And basically

Like basically, they passed like two months two months before

Yeah and she she recorded that was in that

MISIS Okay Atraz of a door with her her

yada. Exactly. And he put the hair of the point because obviously to make an

event so so much you know, you know, you know, you know, to the family,

with what that's, that's all, but, but, they're not to tell it and it

was impactant because it was like revivir that moment for her. It's basically

what we we always we've mentioned when you do you live in

some type of event traumatic or not not be paranormal simply that you

affect to a lot emotional very you you do you

do you and not you know it's like you you know so really are really

things really are really things problems personal problems pastos

traumas generated by families abusos and there also the thing

paranormal when the people live in this type of experiences and a sometimes

think in them is that if I don't me they're to think that I'm

that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that's I'm exaggerating exactly so exactly

so then really really get at the point of the question of

it's it's it's that I know what I'm more I know more

I'm with that and then it's not no, no the external no and is that

that point I want remarked much Juanra because we know much

and the message always is no important no it doesn't that they

go like you like if you you're going because if you're

there people that they're they're they're they're disposed

to listen to of the really, not you do you do

because many times when we're we're things things more

more more situations um, and those disafunated tristes

tragical then it's better always always always it's the

good your papa mention me a phrase that much people

even even even then the repit in the comments

of some capitals. A phrase that just with just with it

makes to record those years. Here is this read the

need. This phrase is like a phrase like to give a type of

emphasis to the program or has a significal more

profound. It has a signific very profound the

actually he used for the program he used for the

program but really was derived of the don that I talk about of various

don't he he perceived energy he could perceive energy he could feel

when there were energies backas yeah and precisely for that

was the phrase okay giving a little talking more like poetically

but but is he he sentia of that there was really so to be

that phrase is important I want to I'm because yeah there were there

I used in various repetitions of program that was a way a form I'm contundate.

Now I'm think that something there's that I'm go We have those Mervalers recreating

basically that format of your and there moments where the callas are very faredes

very pesas because the people who are living things are they're externan

and they start and they're something something something something something

something my team of the team of the has seen

the people the the fans of the program that are listening have seen that you know

so I'm imagine that if I'm at a platform I'm atrable to say with much less that he

that he had your father in this then how people not have seen and I

have seen the reference of that here there's respire the

but in parentheses there's here there there is there's much because

here it's a a vibra very pesable that's like I do you

do you know there's a part we're to get to a part where

you have to be a question very this very very

very a question a question that much I think

they're because has been about this you you

think that you you a to a change of a

benefit for someone more a pact demoniac and that he

had brujeria I'm yeah paco I don't I can say

that I don't I don't I don't the fact the process

of his fallisimient was a pretty I could say

it was very very passed in the interview with this person

and I can you can't say that passed five days and then in five

days he was in the hospital he presented symptoms of a

in the stomach and basically three days after he died very

very rapid. There was something that your family or you even did during

that interview that's he said? Yes, yeah, of actually, this,

my mom me let me talked, yeah, that he, he, he was

in form of protection when he was in the interview with Josue. Yeah.

He he's took of the panza. My me comment that it's in form of

protection that he sentia something yeah vibrava I sentia things

that was they were very well and precisely did this he took the panza

in form of protection okay and is that a context there are people

there are people that mention that for the umbligo

As a, well, yes, a point abjured to our energyically, then

there can enter some type of energy malignant. So, even there people

that, when are in contact with persons, put us,

persons a little pesas or places pesated, the

recommendation is to do this. Ensign like to tap that part so your mom

was not in that interview something. Something that's something and that

you comment is the rapidness the rapid of that one day your father is

five days after your father you still in other life

that's that is a bit a personally is it's really

very very strange I'm actually for for much people

when it was incredible it was very difficult to it was

how I was I was a I was doing a program

normally normally how it all the days and

then so so so so so so so

so so so Boom. Cae. When your father is a

when your mom has gone with him at the hospital, you go to

you get with anyone more what I'm I'm I'm

I'm made to sleep with my friends of my my

father and in that moment he he's he's he's

he he's he I'm to put more or more

more more have a reference a A, a A. A.

A. A. But he no, no, no, no, he's

his reasons, and he was, he's he he said, no,

so he wanted in this moment, yeah. At the other day,

well, he's a poor, in a poor state, and there I, I,

I, with my, with my mom, the hospital. Okay. He, he passed

a night internado, and in that night my mom, while he was standing there

his side. Exactly. Uh, while he was he was he was

a sonar the son of Blanco. Okay. Yes. That so

you think that's that's that's that symbolized that was about

his moment of partida? Yeah, I think was I think was

kind of a form of... Avisar. Avizar, exactly. At the how many days that your mom a son

that your father felles. Or passed of a day? It was immediate. That process

of the due to you're very little. Your family, your mom,

how they did you how was that process recurured to people bruchos chamanes

now recoried to no they were to continue how

how was how was I'm the part personal was very

difficult was very very difficult for my mother

because to live the and and to have

to have to with with to continue with

your life so without without the by my

father. Okay. It was difficult. For that I want much, it was, he did in a manner excellent. I'm going to be grateful with all the sacrifice that he did to, for

to take it to the person and the family. But she, in the duelo, when he gets a his husband, to

my father, this well is in a buska of reasons and a way of

to find some indication she said she said she'd be there she'd with her

this not you I'm this but she she acude I think

that you attract much the theme energetic of the energies and

acude to a person that that Supposedly I was to connect

with my father Okay This My mom was looking response Yeah

And it's something That's something That she When I was with my

father He said They had like a phrase of a marriage They had

something He He said He said He I Like you I

He'd always time of the work, I always he said, I love to

see to dream. And when connect it with this person, connect with the spirit,

he said that person to my mom, that he he said he said that he

said, that he was always he liked to see to see and that person

no I just no I didn't know I'm my mom

That's that that's because a sometimes a word

that's a phrase that for any person no

means nothing for you mean to mean it

and it was a phrase that a that

was something that to tell to you and

for you of that really if it was he. Exactly. After of what this, Juanra,

we told of a sacrifice very, very very in the thing

economic. There was a problem after after the period of your father?

Yes, there was there was I can talk about two parts Yeah. First,

it was the economic was that my mom no was that my mom had

she had to work to work. Yes. And for me it was very difficult that

because, well, more than my nine years to my six years, until my youth.

Until right, it was very, very difficult for me because my mom liedia with the

thing to give me to come, to start to start to try to maintain the same

the same level economic that we had in that moment. She

was very, I'd work for much time. And as she

not was my father, I was I had only. I

mean she was that was a yeah I was I was

with the soled with the uncertainty with with

things that I think I think that no a

a boy should in this moment that's very difficult if

for si there are people there they're not they're not having

instruments so that's so of the man it's the

destroy and and a past of that we we're we're

we're we're I'm I thank much okay no there

no more some no more some companies, where your father worked, and dedicated a great part of his life, at the final

you can't. Look, if there was poeo, it was very minimal. It was, I could say, the regalias, all the programs

no, not he pertinacy to him, they pertaincy to the radio, to the company. So, that no,

there was, after their fallaciment, you could say, they were to say, they They supported morally.

But no there was really an support that helped to help to help my mom to go ahead. Sure. If,

so, that's, that's, because it's a story that is a repeat much, muchissimo,

in many people, um, that's unfortunately pass the better life and these

corporations, corporations a a goodpice of the shoulder,

the armro and he's a lot being your father was a person

very very a person more more than he passionate

for for support for help for to give a

man because a sometimes the people have many

situations and he like the rostro of the

like the host be in him, basically the confidence and the support to the good,

to be able to get to hear these declarations, my, and, and, and,

I'm really, to external, my condolences with you, it's a feeling a bit of a impotence

that can get to get to get to see. Yes. After

that Fallece your Papa There's an experience that I remember that you

about you're in those 9 days What happened When we When we We went To go to the

Misa after the 9 days of having Fallecided Yeah There There are

There are There are families People Sercernas to him And we

obviously Um A family my more chico than I in this moment

I'd talk about I'm six years yeah, I'm the four

less and when we're when we're in the church he starts to say

why my my my man my my his in his

his of nine days his his his he he was

he he was he he used much a common to use, but it was like he was

much, I, I was very much with that camisa. Yeah. And he, he, he saw. How good. And, so, the fact that, for the age, to have that, that type of vision,

that sensibility spiritual, that is very characteristic of the little, of the kids. Yeah. That's good, the confirmation of to say my tio

is here is seeing and I think it is reconfortant for the soul

for your heart to know that that that person that a more physically

not is still with us of some that not form that we don't

we don't we can we but still present with you

you that he has accompanied in some parts of your life, that's with you? I think this, in these

years, in this last year, is when I've felt more present, look,

I, I've talked, I, I've, I've, past three years, many problems

mental my, problems, depression, I, I, I, I,

I'm, many, it was, it was, it was for me, to, and,

it was, to, I was in the front. Yeah. And I, when my father, his family, my family,

too, but the family of my father um, so it was a little of me. I don't

have contact with I, I think, in nine years. Wow. And it's chistoso

because it's four years me got a call and it was my abuela but

it was very, it was very chistoso because until that moment

me he called after after so time after after that I

did that I was back see and and in this moment

is when more I feel that I'm that I'm from

where it's like for example I talk of

my project I I had much stress with my project because I was he was doing

solo, I don't have done no, I don't I was stressed and I had, I was trying

to try to oversaler to look my, my space and, uh, well,

so, so, so, so, so, so I'm doing the opportunities to put

example, already external my project to more audience, a more people,

me, the, how's name, to talk to talk to talk

with my abuel, with my family, the contact. I'd to have

to have contact with that my family, with my friend, and it

was very, it was very rare because I, in the ambit musical,

no had really family in that moment of my mom that's that's dedicated to

that's nobody nobody nobody nobody doesn't time me

call my my abuela I go to visit her and I know

my my my my my my also he's

guitarist guitarist that and it was like in the moment

in the moment that most I needed but that I needed that more Triste

and I didn't feel the same feeling of the passion for what I

know that I'm passionate. So, you can get a little the interest

when you're when you do you see, not be results and it

and it was just in the moment that's did the things of he he,

he was he was he was he he's kind of you do you

do that you do this And he is major than I He said I can't I can't

help with what you need to and it's like in the moment That's

good So, are some little things that maybe those

they're thinking casuality or was a little a little

that's something to do what you want to be to thank you

for the space for the opportunity to thank you to your audience for the

support to the work of my father for tantos years

that he stood sonando and a and a past that he fell

she still being one of the most important of the characters

most important in the ambit paranormal yeah thank to

thank to all the and to you to to your

team to for this time. No, man, thanks to for accept the invitation.

Thanks for to share things that really are really things very important, are things

very personal. Thanks for having you open with us. For favor, family, in this

moment, you will to go to the social of Juan Ramonsen, Jr.

How can you can find for you know to know your work?

It's in all parts, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, it's-it-s-I-T-S-K-W-W-I-E-S-K. Of the same way, you know,

that I'll go in the case of description, the enlace to your channel for that you go to know his job and what he's doing. Uh, of really, thanks, thanks,

brother, for me this interview. Thanks to all the people that get at the final. Of fact, I think, is necessary to know

the veritable of the history. Because as I'm in a principle

the rostro of your father has inspired to many I

include has been a reference a symbol of what he

initiated like a project of entertainment that impacted

the millions of people aficion for the ambit

paranormal people that they're really are are fiel followers

of this phenomenon that to really a much we're and we impact

and even we're and even so thanks for giving us the interview

thanks to all those that got to you know

you I'm a great brazo and we we're

we're and we're going in a new capito. Passenla

Bonito. Until the the next bye Bye. Thank you.