EXTRA ANORMAL - Los capítulos de Podcast que me pueden COSTAR LA VIDA Ft @pepechemapodcast

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

¡Prepárate para una montaña rusa de emociones en este episodio especial! Pepe & Chema se unen a nosotros para compartir las historias más impactantes y arriesgadas que han encontrado en el mundo del podcast. Desde madres buscadoras desafiando a la maña hasta encuentros cercanos con estafadores, estas narrativas te mantendrán al borde de tu asiento. ¡Únete a nosotros mientras exploramos los capítulos más peligrosos y cautivadores que han puesto en juego no solo la seguridad de los invitados invitados, sino también la suya!  Canal de mi invitado: https://www.youtube.com/@UC53qC2QNmGEJXL9yLEDUWxA

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court had santa's mortes. I go santa's because there were like 30, of different sizes,

altures, colors, it was like their recinto. Exactly. But she always always

that he was to get there and he had to be there. And in one of those moments,

he no he doesn't he has a door and is when she's when she's something that

she's a lot of that she said, I'm going to do to do I'm

to do. So, I need to that for this and that's embarrassed that

have the baby and I you know I'm I'm I'm I'm

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with this chapter professors family, friends me regained for to do that

that's a couple of that they don't, that they're saying that I'm

that I'm considered prudent to put it because one I don't not I'm not sure

exactly of what me was saying but me was about the

desapation of the students. He me told that in some moment when

they were in the sub of Mexico in frontera specifically how the

people of the maña he was to say hey I need I need

I need I need a little of such characteristics okay

okay I want so I have so that have this type

of and you do $50 000 $50,000 and she

me said the truth I'm was I'm was I'm

was I'm $1,000, but if he envied money, and the quote another

again, I'm going to be to be to be to be to be so I'm

like, I'm saying, I'm said, I'm said, the person that's in a

chapter in a chapter of your podcast. No. Thank you. What What I'm going to be

What a lot Welcome to a podcast extra normal. My name is Pacuarias and I'm very happy to be in a chapter more for all of you. Today I'm content because I'm like a good

a person that has been a rata and we're in a part two Chema, how you're doing? Very, very

very happy very content to that you have you've been so I'm excited to talk about to talk about you No, my

man, I'm sure that's sure that's going to your podcast has positioneded as one of the best of Mexico and Latin America

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social? Ah, okay you're Well, well, I have a podcast that's called Pepe, Pepe and Chema. I'm also Chema. Me can find out so in YouTube, Pepe and Chema Podcast,

in Instagram, in Facebook, in TikTok, where you like. Basically, what I do is, I invite to people or professionals of different segments

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and a few days I've had a sex shop. So, there's a lot. So, there's a lot. See, the photos there. Yeah, no, no,

I'm just an adjuncto evidence. Medias. There's a little bit of an evidence. Well, if it's a little bit of

the photo, I said, hey, Chema, but the mask is there. Oh, no, thanks. Like, family, you know,

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And then we're we're we're going, I'm really, I have done your little bit

I've done various. So, so many interesting, the really, but more

interesting are very important, so for me something is that, for me, for me, for me, be stories that

me marken, that say, wow, or so, uh, the fact that there are, there are, that even, I mean, I don't want to be able to,

but the theme so much of the thing that's important, just I've been a chapter, I said, uh, I'm,

uh, that's a, yeah, that was a, where I'm, I'm practically all the capital. Ah,

yeah, uh, was for me one of the things more I've heard that I've heard in my life because

for me the stories reales are the stories that the people of the people of some

that's the thing is the question you know what I'm like that how you've how you've I think I'm

I'm afraid to publicar so with that you know because it's a chapter of mothers buscadores

regularly regularly this this was a time that my team and we were for a very much

much time but that a mother buscorer to give an interview is very complicated

many times because they have there are they're they're the time of

that maybe the person that's you're looking for the interview is a person that can

be a person that can do that's so imagine that these people

people always receive people sometimes know say that I'm

think I'm a confession that at 30 meters there's a fossa

a fossa clandestine I've seen that there's much movement so if they're

if they're to go to the fiscalia they're at they're looking and they're and boom

explota all no there was a fos yeah I imagine no no there

no fos and it was a and it was a fear, no, of that always there interest,

both of the government, and of the people that are disappearing the person, there's the interest of that

not they're in these, these chabres and all. So, for me is something very complicated,

because if there are three mamas buscadores, she, she's a one and then go to

the other and the other, and we try we're to do a chapter with a couple, with them

and it's indignantate and it's very strong what you can get to get to come

living basically a infirno every days. I was I was talking

here with you talk about you're a mother and there are the other

two sent and so so so I'm talking about and I always I'm back

to look and I look at the people that were giving us giving

back to the history that happened after five six seven

10 years and they're still still still the first

the first more or more what they what they they're what they're they're

about, or for the thing that one of them one of the last the last that's,

the last about how she sent this part of the injustice, how is living in

the in car and a non-operance of the justice and all this,

has to make they say they're to call to the husband. Okay.

This so says yeah a 15 years more or less.

They sequestran to the husband. He was in his, in his coach, he's

he's absolutely nothing of him. So when she's interred of this, I'm going to

ask, what is the first that you want to when you say, you know,

they're they're to get to your spouse. If is a big.

Okay, but put you need to you need some something about

what happened how happened and what's in this case, I wanted where

they had where they had been, where they've baded to the car, you know,

how's how much time they're in doing this data? How do you? As

how are the authorities Mexicans? Uh-huh. So, I'm, man. You know, maybe a

or more? And more? No inventes. More? Just just for that that? Just, just that

tachle, attinale, I think to the I think. I'm, I'm, I can't

me says that's more I can know, concing how are the No, inventes.

Exaggeramel. Exagger me. Exagger me. Exagger me. So, if you do this or no. It was a case that I've, if it's so, he did a carpetazzo and like it was like it, a year? 10 years.

No, manches. How what is? 10 years in, in enterer to where had succeeded this. Or so, where had succeeded? You imagine? I mean, you,

try to encounter to your spouse and that not can't facilitate that data so simple, that is the first that I'd want to know where happened and how it happened.

So, to talk with them is complicated. I said, that's true is living the sequester. Yeah, me said, no.

This is a sequestro. In a sequester, ohla, would have been a secue. Because in

a secuestro, you know, you know, you know, a risk of, a question. This is a apparition

forced. Here, not they need money. Those don't want to that they want to the

person and get to to work at that place and that's there and they're

and they they're and they're it's something it's all terrible

they're they're getting years many many many years and have got

to obtain results but but the merit propios but

so so all this is that all the people that have

been found they've been never never never never

ever never so so The success for them is to find it,

either or so, so, live or a man. So,

you tell the story of how, of a moment, but a mom

was telling the story of that his was a character

was a person, so he was always he was always he was

he was to be to be to be a person, and they

had a one a relation very beautiful. So the chico was

going to do like the world but he took to get to go to get a little minutes before

before my so we're we're talking we're doing we're doing and what say you know what you

know that you know but at a little bit I'm going and I'm going passing for the

house or that that's a type of and so and of that's and so

he's because you know they've found the car there abandoned

or the mom that's she had disappeared because no he went to his

part of football. So, so, are stories really terrible and there there are

many, many, many things indignantes there, from the part of the justice,

as the part, well, just, I mean, what I know this chapter,

well, is that is that will be to talk to people to people that don't

to talk. It's, it's a risk, um, it's a risk, because

the Alcance that that's that's it gets a much people.

Desgracially the justice in our country, not is the best we

can't and here not we're not in any of the style,

but let let's what has been the years a long

of the history not has been this type of cases where

it's an infirno he he never know if your family

is live or not is, or if is, how it's, or what they are doing?

It's, it's really a martyrio. I said a little I talked with a person

that's that's something. That person me contact and is something because

it has to be with with the manna but but it's a little to the

matter with the thing paranormal. I mean in a Correo where

normally me get in many of people and this person me say

Paco help me I think my my my my he said

I said okay me he started his story his

his his his his his his his his

then consume a a substance a substance not

not is an aggressive as that many sometimes imagine

but was it was a it was a substance natural. The case is

that his his his a not even I don't even I mean it's

it was for a consumer and we think we're I'm like this me like this

me and you mean you're saying you know to do you do you do you

do you know that he was he was I'm carrying like a 8 9 people

wow and me he said that he was a job of preparatory he was

rumbo to his house he he was can't and and of

one to one's a first four vehicles like they're

they're they're and they're in this case there's there's a

rescate they started they're but they're they're they're a sum

sumamente exaggerated for a family that not is a class medium we

think one in some notisier that is I think 40,000 or 20 000 or 20

000 pesos a month or a family that's a class media they're

they're paying a sum millionaria and more a vehicle and I think some some things

and it was an they're all they're asking for the time for it's impossible it's impossible

this this she says that put in all the letter that literally publiced

on Facebook and they're in vivo all what they're I'm what they're that

that was that was that was that was that was that they've beened all, sapathos, all the,

electrodomestical, all what they were in bankers, not they're not a second part because it was

a sum millionary. They said we're just we don't. No, we don't we want that

we're just, we're the quantity. If not, if no you're not, if you're

your son all the family is reune and they're to try to to spend all

what they can again. It's a negotiation. They're

like the amount but even so it's not so it's a it's a thing.

It's an absurd because it's an kind of a candidate that I don't know I don't

know, I know, I'm so many people don't know the the question long

the the his is not done the done the money

and don't the At the day that we're doing this the man, the man

doesn't appear. But she as mother who's a person

that's a thing of the thing, he said he

I cover a a kind of a little a past

about three months of four months and he said

your son he will contacta your his his is

going to send a message he and she was sceptica

but he's like my son of his one of those his friends he was a room to his house

in a colony very and he saw that there was ching and I'm

on a motor no I don't take casco no I'm

going to but then they're they're they're they're they're

they're but they know they're a not a police and

not it was a retent for persons the man. And he

starts to interrogate, what you are doing to do you do you do you know, well I'm

going to go to a mandatito I live here but I'm that one of you had

looking but was at the long and he had like a past mountaines

but that that person that was that was he's he's he's

he's he he's he ch-ch-o so-o- so-o- so-you-

so-you- and he gets and he he He says that he's to

cry the chau and if you're you and they're friends, tell my

mom that I'm my mom that's if I'm catched that I'm talking about

to do to do to say to my mom that I'm and go to this

child and he to the man he said he said he he put

to he put to work that he's to him and a a group

more to do some to do a work to be a lot and they're

at the time he he's a lot of his time he he's he's

what the and the book he says your your he's my

message she she'll she he said Paco I think

in the so I think in the three I never I never put

with my this person that's that's alive that's a realty it's a real deal

tremendous but it's one of the experiences I don't this I've never had ever

never I've never had never but are things that I cause a me

cause much no so I'm no it's like it's like it's a thing

merely mental like it's a thing very that it's that not

can't take so that's but me impact much

how the she said, is that this Bruja me told that me about this and it's casuality, because in three

months, never could have a contact with him so that's like you. The people say, the people

thinker that maybe this she asked a one of a one of his friends of my but it's

impossible because the she didn't know, I went to this woman. So,

I'm going to I'm thinking to know, what you know, it's complicated but I think the

faith is what has to enter there in those moments. To me, too, I mean, I mean, to say,

I mean, I put a little to think because the three moms, the three persons that are looking to those disappearcities,

they are of the same people. Okay. And then they're, honestly, they've

lostamity the fear. They're in the pot of me said, it's, we're, almost,

that's, that group that operate there. I mean, so, they were directly

to talk to the people that were. A- life. So, at the moment to say,

it's put in a game many things, much risk. Demasio. But the not do it too me,

me, it's a, it's a very, very, very, that I'm, that I'm

that I'm trying to, to manage it, because, because, then the objective to, is,

to publicar this podcast. I'm to be, I'm, let me, let the people,

let me, I'm a little commercial Thank you. Tristently, the government of that's state, in particular, of where they're in there,

there's a department that's that's a lot of people and that they're in a presuppost destined to be able to investir and able to find people. Desgracially, the people that are at cargo of these institutions are people who don't have

families of disappearcings. For, desgraciated, Unfortunately, I don't know how to say it. And what makes that they don't learn to understand the dolor of the people.

So, what is what is the indignant and why why is this commercial? Is that they started to investigate and

found out that existed a apparato, that is like a carito, that they go van passing by

all the people, that they're also the carrito has the capacity to identify to identify

and different type of material, let us what is under the this arraarer

much time and would be a world of possibilities for you can find more more

more fosas and more persons and the thing is when they investigated the price

of this apparato was more more than two three million and it was the

money that approximately had this state for to localize people so they

they're they're they're they're they're they're we're we're

we're And at final, they did the inversion, but they were the investment in picos, in pales, and

in camionettes. No, man. So, so, then is this part that is, you know, I mean,

I'm, I'm understand this part of the government, and say, is that not it's that they're in,

in my state, politicallyically me will affect because, because in the next votations, when I want to apply to

the chapulim, to pass me the deputado federal, the senator, of a senator, local, president of

the municipal, well, well, you're going to be going to say, they're going to say, they're

saying, they're not so, so. So, so I'm not I'm put to put the foot I

only. Exactly. So, right what we're doing is that when we we're doing

that we're we're going to get the amount of, we're going to we're going to let the project for

that the thing, and the idea is that's this is that can buy this this

apparatito and it's to these madres buscadores that the apparel not use exclusively of them. The idea is

that this doors for all the country and if it's necessary that's going to go out and then

the case is to help her man. No, well, it's quite with my support.

I know. With the the support of the community, that in that moment that are

that they're at your can't be to your can't to do not the donative all we all we're

a cause a cause a lot noble, more than to beneficial then I don't

help to a government to help to help a lot of people who have done people who

do you have done a life investigating the disappearance of a family of a

kid I I'm I'm I'm put in the other people and I

think me that I have done so only a minimum part because I

know that no is nothing compared I feel a father

that's a little that's it's a little so it's a thing that's

a lot of I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm so I'm know that I'm don't know

I'm in the fear. I'm yeah, I'm yeah, I'm not really, I mean,

that part I understand but it's very too, also the not having that

the rest of part of your authority that they're that they're to be yeah, yeah,

yeah, I'm yeah, I'm sure you're yeah, it's He was a lot of it.

Yeah, there's a great yoree I've got in the podcast ultimately. For those those for the

end of the chapter as a unicornio for two. Yes, that that's a particular

was very, very, very very very. This chapter was a friend,

a good a big miga. Lillian. Lillian was a pair of

a car and the thing is that she was that he was a rome was a

guy. He he vendio the idea of that was a person that had one of

parts of cars, deswesadero that's that type of things but she was very

that he was very that he said not so normal, not so that that there

that there that has that there's she did know that this quater

and he was chueco and it was dangerous was that one day, he's

in the house with his and what what's what's what's what's

they're in the little they're in a little they're in a room

and they're in their own own house. Okay. And he begins to

hear that they get to the music Uh so she she's she was

like very I'm because she's getting to start grittes and grittes

and grittes and grittes you're doing to my he's logra to find a little

space and in the door to see a question this is for the so there

someone separate them because what I'm to tell a continuation is a

question is a very much this the coate the the husband has been

sitting a five chavos arrodillated and heuntas he has taken a

taladro and is that taladable the head to one of they're okay

so that's that was the first moment where she did really that the quater had a problem

a pretty pretty very serious obviously she said the worst of all the and what I

was that that I did to get to get to in the in the quarter

I know to think the day I'm I'm I'm to go to the

question and I'm the first I'm the first I'm the first of what

I'm and say oh yeah for for prepare me some me

Like if nothing? Like if nothing would have to happen. All the life. So, she was

she was obviously he had to do this just so he was the coate had like

the head hebraed and then he said yeah I'm going to cure because

I think that was able to and he was to sutur and all the cause so the

the quote I had a a lot that was a lot and what is what

is what is what is what is going to and how my theory is

that the The man this had a problem psychiatric. Okay.

Psychosis or or some something like he said that he was imaginar many

schizophrenia. Possibly. The chiste is that were two quarters in the house

inside of the house and in one of the quarters was the court of

the and apart to be a part of there was there not there was

but she was that in the court had sant mortes.

I said Santas Muartes because there were like 30 of different times, altures colors, it was like

her recinto exact but she always she always that he metia and he

had been there and then he was but not he said exactly what what he said and in

one of those moments he no he doesn't he doesn't he he's when he's when

he's a little that she he got a lot he said I'm

I'm do you I'm do you just I need to well that for this I'm

that's that I'm the baby and I you know I'm I'm manches

and said she she said she started to get to to the bathroom and he's he got

he did count of that he he had heard that he he had heard

and then he went to go to go to try to try to the door

and he he said no you don't you don't you

talk about it's the moment the life and it was a story

with the her Like if were she Like if She was like she Like she's

And then it's like Yeah no me they're like I'm mean, I'm

don't me molesten I mean I was like that So I put in contra

So you Yeah So the family not was And not didn't absolutely

nothing And yeah they were in the in the quarter of his

house in the court So I did I get to question

how time was the maximum that you was you 24, 7.

I mean, I remember that the day the way the last last long that was in the last year, it was a bestia.

And I asked you, I asked you. Yorard, dormer, and a sometimes to be writing,

and to keep y'erating and to keep year and to be sure. Imagineate, I mean, it's better

than in the carcel, I don't know. Yeah. And it was a situation a bit terrible.

She'd be able to venting papillitos to the car to be if someone those,

it was and they'd and they'd actually, there was people who was they'd and the

people who was able to and read what I said that was I'm sorry I'm

in this house the people prefering to keep coming and not

actuar and not do not say not and so, so, so,

that's that she always thought that she was to fugar to fugar to one of

his other people. So, I said, this, yeah, I mean that you're

that's being that's this, yeah, that's, I think, with the things of

so much, so, then the quater, yeah, in a point of all this, he,

he, he, got a point of all this, that the family of him yeah,

he had a, so, his mom, his her father, his brothers, Suzanne,

I knew that was a type dangerous. So, I'm in a little moment,

he was the opportunity to get a time with the mom of him, he said, for

favor, please, help him my mom, digale that I'm here, I need

to come and that me get them and that I said, I can do that I

can do that I can do because if he's enter a, he's, he,

he's, he, he, he's it's better that you make a case because

he's a way in the hardin and he's for you. And effectively

the coate he had done a way to get a but because I was in a

level yeah very very advanced it was a quite that in the

story I got in the story I'm I took the opportunity and

I'm to make some some some the story. If they want to know complete, well,

there's in the channel, but for to keep talking about of other themtas also.

I'm, at the final, he's terminated the life. Okay. And I

could learn the cards that he wrote, he wrote cards? He wrote cards.

He put those messages. She me those he said, me said, me,

this is what me said, really, I'm going to say when I read the cards,

I read a enamoradish. Nothing to know. I mean a guy, I'm enamored.

Ah, I've committed errors and this and the other and this is very important in the women and the

manipulation. The manipulation and this part of I'm going to change. I'm not no, it's there the

place. No. This, if you say that you're going to let me take the

100% in serious because really it's not you can be bromial with this and it's

a thing very complicated that I don't judge to the

person that's being and say, ah, is that you have to take the

decision, not you're not, it's a situation very complicated and it's

a thing that is a thing that I'm to then I'm the cards and I

see a guy a a man who he said this, the other and you

are the love of my life and a good of even the person

even I did the last he did you not I'm not going insisting just

just Alah, this. But what he's referring to that? Well, the quat

the day the next he's he's he said that he had co-ed.

Ah. Oh, and no. It's that's that's a no, no,

and that's a story that's a particular me part the part of the story

maybe, well, is, is a sort of and all what you careas,

but when she made with the psychology and how he he's

the circle of violence and that's the parted the

heart because really is, Lillian not is a little a little

a little so it's, and it's it's very to tell us that type of stories. And is that

many just like you said Chama fall in the error of to be and say

lette or so so so so. So, so so.

So it's what you don't know is that are people is that

are people who have been manipulated and controlled for much time.

It's, like you do you do this is a job of that you

have to manage with professionals or so yeah there's there's not a

not it's not like me go and yeah really the people really

the people that usually generate dependents and so

and not only dependents they do they generate infinity

of situations sentimental for that And they're going to go a I mean

to know a case fiatel the absurd where the the pair baron manipulable

that the that was and obligated that was she was she she was she was

she was she said that I didn't even because I didn't know what she was

she was doing I was doing so it's a thing impressionant man

but but very very who is, you can't not to look to look at

a family, no, if you're a man, to your brother, to your to visit

to be a time when or not, not be to be a message, I mean, I'm going,

I'm going, but it's a case that's a man, I'm, I mean, so, as I'm,

like, so it was like you, to get to to your, I mean, normally many,

like, like, like, they're, like, a no-se-counts millions, you know, wow, it's a story

as a little Samudio, the reality that inspires that's where then they're like they're not going to

those that are the ones that are very popular, movies, but really the transfondo is very oscourousa

and so about to talk a thing that's me makes impressionant the

thing of when when it's a fanatism to a reality that in this

case is to the Santa Morty, and I do with much respect to

because many people they're in cult. I personally not I'm participate

of that faith, but I respect to all the creencies. But not

only is with the Santa Morte. There's the case of Cloddy Michangos,

that's about much also in this channel about her a woman that was a catechista

that was that he was the name of the power of God for to the

sacrament of the communion and she she three kids

for a thing because, I'm mental, a woman that had schizophrenia.

I mean, it's like the dad. It's really, to where you can

get a mal psychiatric mixed with a fanatism religious cases where don't know

if you know, some years out of a woman that a kid to a child

he got the eyes he set because I said a epipipic to

think if she was to go to the world that preferia

that he to get a siego to the kingdom of to the world, to that's

to get to be to get to the thing that's an thing

that's a thing that's very very so I'm no, I don't have

for that so. No, no no, no. It's terrible. Well, here

the only to add is this, if you your woman or man

is suffering in this situation. The really I know we know we

have people to we're we're to but we don't ask them

a question. not are specialists. It's important to get us an advocate, to get us a psychologist or a psychiatrist

that you help from a point of view of professional. If you know you are the people are the people

not your friends, not your friends, because yeah the confidence generate also that's going to

go, we're going to go back to go and it's for you. Or you don't know it's a

thing as oh yeah me have talked about that episode that no has said the

thing of these women that are looking. A capitol a

minute that you do you do you have been more to do it's

published. Yes, the second chapter I did. The second capitol for me

was the chapter I don't have problems with this chapter. Professors families,

friends me reagued for subed that that they're saying that

not they didn't have said. And for example to that you did you

he quit part or it was crud or so it was a part that I don't consider

this prudent to put it because one I don't not I'm not sure exactly of what

me was saying but I was about the desapation of the students

that he he was a relationship with some people that had

participated in that in that process and me was talking

what had so so where they were they I can't assure that is this.

It's, it's a big, it's dangerous to reveal that information. So, I'm more reserve and I

said, I'm the person adequate that I'm going to talk of this type of things.

But the other things that were complicated. Yeah, we're talking of, yeah,

how practica certain, for not to say the word, what type of practices do that

people say, how the person's what are the practices more commones one of

the most the most that I'm moved much, he told that in some

when they were in the south of Mexico in front specifically how the

people of the mania was to say I'm I need I

need I need a need a little of

such characteristics okay okay okay this I want to

so that that has this type of and you do 50,000 pesos.

So he he said, like some people, he made of the people of the community.

And then then then the kids had the and they were to go to and they were to all the

and they're saying, I don't have that kind of that's characteristics but I don't know.

No, well. And then it was a a form of how they were a red.

Yes, yes, Yeah, yeah, for the topic of specifically for the families that invest in a land to say,

consigne me that thing because my my son my son me is where my you know, you know,

yeah, you know, the phrase that much ignores, you know, your rights are,

you're going on the people, those of you know, so could be your but no.

I'm, I'm, I'm with my book. It's that when I don't have the rackets.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, if I gojohnia. Then I said, the minute or tal. Yeah, yeah,

it's been past, yeah, it's oh, that that's, that I'm, that I'm really doing much for

that people that people saw, yeah, that's certain platforms of streaming no,

no, not, no, they're, the, freedom, uh, sonos of

Libertat, precisely, I was, and I was, when you, when you see this type of situation,

and you're a, so, it's a Pega much. Of course. Of course, one like I was

I said, sometimes one would be able to be there all the time with him, no? I mean, to come

it's a part that my, my mother me said, is that you, you're going to get to only,

no, well, let me, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, but now

you're in this side, or that I'm that I'm I'm, I'm, I'm,

you're all the reason, and I'm completely stupid, I'm trying to make me the valiant knowing that you what you always

were to belau for my security but it's a thing very trieste, because in Mexico I've understood that is the second or the first country

that basically that basically it's this this business. The, the place where this is a data interesting

I'm going to try to disfrasar evidently the country where most have us to us are

to menores is for part of his papas is Mexico So, Mexico has the first where the

parents are the people are those people are the not the TIG or not this those the parents

is a thing very, very complicated I've I've had an opportunity to

grab in some a particular specifically of this time with Elenita that I'm

a very very great she she has she has a foundation

that's specifically to help to suffer in this type of

experience and so So, if you, if you find some stories that part in the heart in the cause,

because how, how they're they're going, we're going to talk to do this, we're going to do this, we're

to do what other. And it's something, I don't I can't mention here because that

no, no, no, you're going to get to get to this, but I've got a exclusive

that's very good. You're, you're of Wachaca, no? Yes, well,

well, I well, you I've got with a hacker of Oaxaca. No, man.

Okay. This is a hacktivist. The hacker, but practica that part. Before to do this, I was in a company of security

where they were to hackkear things that not, that not were too, and he had been a lot of

he decided to get to that. Until that in a moment, a friend of him, he said,

he said, he said, that in that group, they're doing some some photos mys.

And, so are photos in intimas, let's say. The group, I'm Jol, it was like

it's more no-se- what kind. Ah, yeah of that part of Oaxaca. But yeah was a group

that was really really and I'm to tell really how function was that really. I hope

to be basically the chica had a much fear because a couple of years

she had been a lady of these videos that's that someone and that

somebody banquette lady here I don't know what lady have been she has been she had had been a infirno practically

because all the world was the door and said if this is filter will start again again

all this and it's a situation very terrible all the one is you can't be wrong

so the so that is what it is what you say well I'm going to start

to investigate and resulta to get to a certain group of

telegram where they're where they're where they're they're they're they're

and they're and he what he did was to an virus to this group a link

I imagine it was an archival so the people and automatically he had the authorization

to put to enter to the telephos of the people that had had

had done click so he then he went to the phones and he started certain

other things other things that he had and then he could do do some way

a limpeas but this desat all the thing much much more more than I remember

exactly what was the name of this person that had a nickname there like

a rarro but he a reference Lidsmo and Pax and the sir and so much

that he discovered that this quater was a was a guy that had a

had a group and then he was he was he was money to the

people to the people this, for photos of his novias

or of his amygias and then this quater about with and he said he said he said

a lot of with these characteristics and these quates and they are costable with

with all the people because it was the way of the form of getting the form

a carpeta very, very, but very very, very great and then he was

he was dedicated to then he had a a business very, but

very very say. Because he was he was he was probably he could get a 30

times more to that he was because he had like a clientele much more more grand so this this quater

always was because he said that never they were to and there is where the that's ah the

life that caro and then this quater commenced to do an investigation so

so so super ample super caon of all this and da with the and it

resulta that the quater was a photographer but that is the worst.

The worst is that all his family were providers of government of Oaxaca

no manches is being quimed the bado the doctor is to have a family that

to get a political exactly and so and so this this coate he said

it's the time and the first thing is that well he he'll do

do it to turn to turnular certain things of bank, and log to

do it with the parader of this way. Okay. So, he says, how he does he

do, to try to corroral a little more, and decide to write his name, and he

put a, tun, tun, and he he'll be the name. Yeah, with that he's not

calambrating. Yes, yeah, with that the quater, this, the, he,

a, and then you want to get to to get to get to get to and this,

and this this, and this, where he put the name and this quater he's he's

a lot of so it's a form also to be a corralar it and the quater has disappeared

like four years. Dissen for there said, I'm trying to do that's no

no I'm no, no I'm know, but it's a story

a story quite interesting and the coate I'm I'm I'm I'm

what's what's you're on the telephone of a person that you have

paid that you enter to hakear to hackkear to borrow something

me said there was a woman that me contacted

because they were starting to filter photos but she not

she didn't those photos not not not they

didn't so so I said I need I need I need to

me resolve this thing so that the question comes

to start the investigation comes to start the

photographs and all the stuff and do with

the with the coate. His his his his

his his vendia the manned she yeah, yeah

he's cabarone what that's caron what that's in what

a poor mother yeah yeah yeah I mean that

the to be to do do you manches manches brother oh yeah

oh yeah really is that I think the thing the

thing you know the person that's I'm a question for

to you, in some moment has felt a fear of publicer something, you know,

this me can cause problems in serious. I'm, well, what you comment I

about the moders for me is like, the podcast that I'm retrasing so,

all the world me has but nobody know what does, and it's what is what

has what is what he's what heole, like, I'm worried, a so I do

many different really if I'm the person that's the person that has been

that I'm that I'm I'm going to I'm going I think I'm going I've borrado I've borrowed

capitulos Oh, yeah you've done you've done, so I've done because it's a

sense that me can't get in problems but this was a question different

to tell the story so that's so that's very interesting you're to surprise I'm

a girl me said hello I'm my name I'm my name I live in Kieretaro.

And I think I'm like 65 years, I think I've had a senior. And I want to tell that I've suffered a staphah and I need to, that'scuches my story. And I'll say, okay, look, I'm a lot of a senior

solo, that, well, I've created to give the opportunity to know people. Sure. I met here an application for to know people and I knew someone and the really is that

was a person that was a very amable and very little with me and we've got to have a

bonita in some some point after the several weeks and we're we're

we're not we're he was he was he was he's of here he's

he's I'm I'd want to know to know to be to be

but I'm a situation economic a little something I'm

I'm money. Yeah, I want if you can't send $2,000 pesos okay. For that I

buy to buy it, and she said, look, no you don't you care, I'm sure

to get your situation and yeah when you can't you know no pass absolutely nothing.

Very good response. Yes. And then then she was, she was receiving a

video of those two so with his photos and so like all beautiful, no, all perfect.

In some point, I used they were to learn put to to put her to say, oh,

I'm going to go to the city of Mexico and this, and she's going to be in a fine

of a week and they're they're doing and they're doing, and they're all the thing, so the

thing, so the then she is going to go and she's going to say, oh yeah,

fiftate that I'm in the in the university of my son and not I'm trying the

cargette. I want if you can be you can present $2,000 pesos. Okay. And then

she said, well, I mean, yeah, it's there's real, it's all right, so it's super bonito, and all the thing, no? So, she says, well, there's two thousand pesos. And he's made the $2,000. And of a sudden, boom, blockyada. No, manches. And she's, she, she's, she's, yeah.

For $2,000? Yeah, for $2,000. So, I mean, I'm not demerito, but then, yeah. I mean. The The chiste is that she I'm trying to Facebook, for all the website, he does a

account that definitely is blockied. And pass on a couple of days, like four days after, he was back

to contact and he said, oh, yeah, disculpa, my telephone so, this, he, and,

and I, he, he, he said, no, it's true, you me, you, you,

you, you, you, you, me, I, pay me, for you

to me come another phone, no, I don't send me, I, I need,

I need to access to my telephone, because there I have many things and all that I'm saying, and I'm getting clients that certainly me are talking. And I'm saying, the truth is that I'm inamorada, me see.

I mean, I was, I'm sorry, I was I'm inamorada of the person, and no, I'mvied the $2,000, but if I'm via money. He said, he's, he's, he's, he's

$500. And, um, and the quote again, I'm going to blocker. No, man. The chiste, and it's something, and I said,

I said, I said, I said, I said, I'm, I'm, the person who made

that's a chapter in a chapter of your podcast. No! Yeah

it was with you? Yeah it was a chapter publiced and all

the thing that's all the when I said, I said on your podcast

I almost that I know you know manches and because

it's because it made rare certain different and he said

I said I want to talk this story because

I I want to exhibit a person And also I'm going to talk of this type of problems that can happen to Like I. So I said

Thinka very well You I go Thinks very well If you want You want to You're going to To tell to that

He's dedicated It's a He was a podcast As a infidelities Detective So the truth is that the stories were

good. I'm going to publicer but I'm going to get to do this and I'm

to talk because. And the chis is that the thing is that the thing is you can't

you can find you can find out of you can't find out of all. So she yeah

like the time my husband you know I prefer no prefer I do not

but then then I put in the video because had received like just in

this same had received like two Correos more that this quater

had co-cored investigations that no he said the people he said I need to

hackier the telephone because I want to know then they they'd then they

transferia and the carte said perfect we're going to do that the day next

he said he said you know you know we're just to try to to try to to turn

to the phone but we're that this person has like a high security and much candles

that not not us permit to get to I think this person is very

so I'm doing for terminated the job and so because I know the

message do you do you do it well for the other other

other staffers they're block and yeah the transfer that

there there's there there to there there to then so I'm

so chile no so then I'm so so then I'm

put I'm not contract this person because is

a stafado. Yeah. Yeah. Has he done before in other Capitolo? No,

no I've done. That's the first and then when I receive those messages I'm

to try to contact them. I need to we need to we need to this situation. And I also also

I'm also yeah I had blocked I was yeah, I had time I think I probably I

don't know with the invasos with some some of some of some I know I'm

got to when I put that when I put it's It's, 10 minutes in,

in, I'm, I'm, oh, yeah I see that put this in the podcast and I'm

so I'm so much, that's not me has asked, and I'm said, way,

me you know, you know, you know, we're going to do the opportunity, we're going to do the people,

to the person, to the you did this, and you did you say, no, that nothing to do you say,

I'm, I'm, we're, we're talking, we're, for the three for that

we're exactly that was what was what's you know and there can get to

get to get a real of a and that the people don't even me because I didn't know that you

don't know exactly? And so you don't know I don't know I don't do that I don't know

I'm not another solution I'm going to I'm going to let's say and yeah the quater me started

and me to say to say that that no me convene to make me to make me to make

me to many Look, I, for if so, if no, I said, I'm going to borrow the chapter, but I'm going to to be able to publicar. But I'm going to censor the car. If the quater, well,

I'll go, go ahead and I'm going to write to write, I'm going to exhibit your car. No. Because, yeah, yeah, so. That's, so, because the stories were good, and

certainly much people are interested in to hear what the quat said, because the quat said, because the quat was like, no, I mean, that was, that was practically

of that had had saved a a woman, because his husband he paid an investigation

but I know that the husband was like he was a little he was a

he was to do a thing he so he he invented that he he had encountered

and he he's no and he's I remember the one of a man

whatever but the good stories they're so yeah he's

not going to say nothing but yeah me has that part of

that part of I I just I don't I know I'm I'm

in the podcast the people that vend a service

or that in any situation, not for the fact that I do you're saying that I'm in

a moment I recommend and look it or not. So, now it's like a criteria of

every kind of if they get a confidence, if what is now a decision very of

you're not we're in this side as Chema as your service just only we're just

just like this function to interview person and ask you and you're not to say that's

a car you're not to give all the confidence of the yeah

it's It's going to be like the most top, no? Yes, so much for you.

Herman, there's a practice, we're going to make aventus. Tremendas experiences. I,

the truth is that me impact a much when this type of stories that are very far from,

and I think very very much because in a series, in a movie they're

in a particular, but as a matter of a matter of the reality,

really very few many many times it It's really plasmar the maldad

that comes of the people, the fact to give to do that's a man, to do

your child, to your family, really is very strong in the thing in the

majority of the way of the cases that does that's a me impacted

much because you'll you're your enemy but you you're you, you

you're back when it's a person very close of you, familiar and amistat. I mean, there's the

person that you're doing doing a year. So, then much ojo, very precarious and so that's

the recommendation that would be done. I'd like that would be another more more, I know,

thank you know, you know, you know, with much good, you know, you're doing

my channel, yeah, we're programmed to the... Thank you. Thank you. No, no, I don't

say, for the opportunity is to hear some stories that we're going to have for

for the confidence, for the amissed, because you are there. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all the

time. Family, if the video you liked, you know, to please your like, you're saying listening syrenas,

but then no no way, it's the final. There's the time of my friend of my name, and Chema,

there below in the description for that you go to visit you, and you'll visit you and you'll write because also

for that he's to do count that he's that we're saying, thank you. Thanks, family,

to all. Coooooo. and we'll see in the next chapter. Bye, bye.